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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.

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I need, I need money.

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.

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Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace.

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Stop it.

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Andy and Candace, Andy and Candace.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Candace, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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What's up?

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I have a quick question for you.

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Yeah, what's up?

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What's happening?

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My question for you today is, stayin' humble.

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Hashtag stayin' humble.

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Oh boy.

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Oh boy.

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Look, I don't know a whole lot about classic rock.

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Sure.

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And apparently I really stepped in it, I thought, I said that, so I'm playing with fire by the

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doors.

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Yes, many people have pointed that out.

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Yeah, boy.

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I'll tell you what, a lot of backlash whenever you misstate something about music, and hey,

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you know what?

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That's on me.

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I don't know a whole lot.

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My parents were pretty restrictive with music growing up.

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That's true.

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As I've brought up in the past, my first album that I ever bought was Alanis Morissette's

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Shagged Little Pill.

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True, delicious.

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And my mom made me return it, because it was a bad influence, and I think probably everything

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by the Rolling Stones was a mysterious thing to me.

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I discovered some Beatles songs from Beatles Rock Band.

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I was gonna say.

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That's the kind of level of naivete I have about that stuff.

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If Alanis Morissette is a step too far, then I would imagine that the Rolling Stones' earlier

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work is off limits.

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My dad might be fucking around with Pete Seeger or something, you know?

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That's where we're at.

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You know, I've always put your dad in the secret prog rock genre of just like somebody

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who when no one's around is like, time to listen to Yes, I'm gonna get in my favorite

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chair.

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I think he might like Steely Dan.

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We'll have to talk about that.

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Sure, sure.

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As you can recall, his first concert was Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

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He did like Chicago and some of that horn rock.

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There was a time.

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But I think it was because he, I don't know, was he in the marching band?

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I can't remember.

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Anyway, my point is I'm sorry to everybody who I disappointed by my non-knowledge of

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songs.

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It's okay, it's okay.

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I will stand by my position that I don't like The Doors.

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You know, I actually went back and listened, and at no point did you claim the song was

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The Doors.

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It could very easily have been a completely disconnected thought.

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I was thinking about trying to play that game, but in the sake of sincerity and being above

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board, I have to admit that I did fuck that up.

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Anyway, Jordan, hashtag staying humble.

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I have a simultaneous bright spot in Darkstone.

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Dan, we had a lovely time.

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We got together and watched Mortal Kombat.

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Sponsored content.

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Fantastic time.

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And I have decided that it is the worst movie ever made.

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I don't think it's the worst movie ever made, but I was disappointed as hell.

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Yeah.

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No, not because of the movie itself.

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Oh.

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But, and this is how I'm thinking of it, all right?

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Godzilla versus Kong.

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Do you know what I got?

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I got Godzilla versus Kong.

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Right in the name, right in the movie.

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There it was.

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It promised and it delivered.

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And when I hear Mortal Kombat, I want a goddamn tournament, Dan.

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This was what I was screaming most of the movie.

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This was most of the movie.

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Where is this goddamn tournament?

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Yeah, and spoiler alert for Mortal Kombat, there's no tournament.

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It's not a spoiler.

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It is a warning.

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Yeah.

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And the thing that really bothers me is like, okay, I get it.

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Some of these movies are such that like maybe the tournament will be in the third movie

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or whatever.

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Yeah.

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I think that's cheap.

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It's terrible.

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But whatever.

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Yeah.

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It's not fair that this movie opens up making a big deal about how the fate of Earth depends

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on this tournament.

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On the tournament?

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There is no tournament.

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No tournament.

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Infuriating.

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It is infuriating.

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We are going to lose that sponsorship money.

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I don't think we're going to keep it.

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I don't think we're going to keep it.

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The next MK12 video game will not be announced through us.

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It was still fun though.

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You know, I like the idea of getting overly excited for no reason, almost as a bit about

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a movie coming out.

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No, it was great.

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And it was fun to do that and to watch a movie that was new.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's been a very long time.

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We haven't watched a movie together in a long time.

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It's been forever.

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And this was your idea.

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You were like, we're watching Mortal Kombat.

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Not only my idea.

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I insisted.

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Yes, you did.

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Yes, you did.

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Yeah, it was great.

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It was a great time.

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Sure.

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Yeah, it's not a terrible movie.

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It's the worst movie ever made.

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Oh boy.

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Okay.

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So Jordan, today we're back in the past.

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Okay.

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As promised.

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Good.

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We're in 2003, continuing our march through that time to see what we can learn.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I realized as I was listening to this, that one of the things that I obviously am the

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most interested in is seeing if that sort of bizarre Christian extremism exists within

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him back then.

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Sure.

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He thinks he's fighting the devil.

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Right, right, right, right.

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That seems to be what I'm most interested in.

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Yes.

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Because if that's been going on for 18 years, someone should have, you know, taken care

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of it.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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We should have a societal understanding that this guy thinks he's the fucking Messiah.

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It has nothing to do with banking.

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Totally, totally.

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No, no, no, no.

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The Fed?

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Nuh-uh.

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It's fighting the devil.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's complete nonsense with a little thin veneer of political intrigue in order to trick

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people into thinking that what they're involved in isn't extremist religion.

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Exactly.

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So I was interested-

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And we've seen signs and there have been simmering tensions, slight little bits that if you were

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being ungenerous, perhaps you could put that in the holster.

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Yeah, so I'm interested to see what happens here on May 6th, see if we can find any more

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clues.

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Ooh, that's nice.

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And get a better picture of what's going on.

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Let's see what happens.

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First though, Jordan, we've got to give some shout-outs to some wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Joanna, and then the message here is that Jordan needs to livestream some Chrono

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Trigger pretty please, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much!

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And that's a good idea.

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That's a great game.

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We've got a request for you to stream.

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That's a great game.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, also scream some Chrono Trigger.

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Next, if it's pronounced A-T-A-T, then TIE fighters are now T-I-E fighters.

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, but also, I don't want a flame war developing through this, this is not how

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we do this.

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Simmering controversy.

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This is not how we do this.

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Ed H., thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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That's actually pronounced E-D-H, Dan.

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Thank you very much, Ed.

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And then, I'd like to give some shout-outs to some technocrats.

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First we got Joel C., thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.

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Dan, I love you, but the Rolling Stones wrote Play with Fire, not The Fucking Doors.

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Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat.

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And Brian...

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You're now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Joel, the music scolder, and Brian Seltzer.

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Thank you very much to all of you.

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I think I'm gonna change my bright spot to just now you staying humble.

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Oh, you're great.

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Thanks.

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I love you.

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So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're in the past, here is an out of context drop from

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today's show.

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Yes, I'm a maniac, yes, I love freedom, thanks for putting up with me, folks, I, uh...

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So that's an out of context drop, you know, he's saying I'm a maniac, but he's not being

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a maniac.

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No, no, no, no, that's almost more terrifying of just somebody in a monotone, yes, I'm a

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maniac.

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No, but he hasn't been earlier in the episode before that, either.

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Oh, not at all?

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No.

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What?

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Yeah, like if you listen to present day shows, you'll be like, this guy is so subdued, and

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he's like, I'm sorry, I'm being crazy.

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No, you're not.

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Wow, that's interesting.

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This is the first serialized content we've got, where he's referencing the fact that

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he has been a maniac in the past.

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At least we're aware of the past in this time period.

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In the future, I will be so nuts that I have to apologize now.

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Yes, exactly.

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So he starts off the show, and I honestly think, I'm working on a theory, this is another

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thing I'm tracking as I'm going back to the past, and I think Joe Rogan might have ripped

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off Alex.

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All right, my friends, we have a powerful broadcast for you today.

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Just masses of vital information developing on the police state, on the thought crime

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front here in the home land.

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We also have Bechtel, that wicked organization, it's now coming out in the mainstream news

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that Bechtel is big with the bin Laden's.

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Well, of course, you don't build anything in the Middle East unless you are with the

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CIA.

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And you became the bin Laden British intelligence family.

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So I think Rogan might have stolen calling his show powerful from Alex.

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This is 2003, this is before the Rogan experience started.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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The powerful Joe Rogan experience.

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Powerful Rogan.

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Got a powerful broadcast here.

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Oh boy, I don't think so.

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So let's talk about the Bechtel group.

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Sure.

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So the story here that Alex is talking about, it begins with a piece by Jane Meyer in the

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New Yorker, where she covers a connection between the bin Laden family and the Bechtel

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group.

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Quote, the global construction and engineering company to which the US government recently

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awarded its first major multimillion dollar contract to reconstruct war-ravaged Iraq.

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This was because the bin Laden family had invested about $10 million in a company called

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Fremont Group, which began as a subsidiary of Bechtel, but had been a separate entity

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since 1986.

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Some of the board members of Bechtel were also board members of Fremont, but they weren't

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connected businesses, so an investment in one isn't necessarily an investment in the

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other.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a lot of reasons to point fingers at Bechtel and suspect they're not above board

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in their dealings, but this tenuous connection to the bin Laden family is not one of them.

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Even if you connect them concretely to Fremont, then you still need to demonstrate how the

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money the bin Laden family invested in Fremont has any connections to the actions of Osama

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bin Laden.

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Yeah.

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There's so much work that you still need to do to make this a sensible conspiracy, and

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all Alex is doing is just pointing at someone else's headline and then misconstruing it.

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I can't think of anything more like, oh, I heard that the Bechtel group was into some

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shit or I'd be like, oh yeah, of course they were.

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Most businesses commit financial crimes of some sort.

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I don't think they're financing terrorism.

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That's more expensive than just committing financial crimes.

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Well the conspiracy that they're sort of trying to dance around without explicitly saying

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it is like, so this Bechtel group, they do a lot of construction projects, multi-million

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dollar reconstruction projects.

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So Osama bin Laden, they built the twin towers and they were actually fake and they were

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made, and it was a small model that was, no, no, okay.

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It's that like the Osama bin Laden funding of this is related to causing the need for

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the construction.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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You have a closed loop of investment.

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I gotcha.

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I gotcha.

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I gotcha.

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That's sort of the conspiracy that's being hinted at without actually overtly saying

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because it's like, okay, no, hold on.

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If you were to actually assert that, people would be like, you can't prove any of this.

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That's outrageous.

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Yeah.

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But if you hint at it like Alex is doing, then you know, you can kind of get away with

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it.

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Pretend you've proven a case when you haven't done anything of the sort.

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Follow the money.

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There's a few million invested in a small company and that's terrorism.

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Okay.

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All right, fine.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So Alex is this guy who has always been right about everything and he's just like just waiting

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to be proven right all the time.

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All the time.

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Also, a passport will carry eye prints.

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We'll get to that.

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Even WorldNetDaily admits it.

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I wasn't going to cover it yesterday when the Toronto Star was saying it because I knew

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it would come out in other conservative publications.

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We like to go from it from that angle because we know how the liberals are.

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Turns out what we told you about a month ago was completely true.

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So it's interesting to see how clearly above the left-right paradigm Alex is back in 2003.

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Can't trust any liberals.

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No, totally seems like a guy who is consistent about how the left-right thing is just an

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illusion.

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Unfortunately, he doesn't seem like a dishonest, manipulative, extremely right-wing asshole.

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The truth is that Alex does dislike the left and the right at this point in time.

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You can tell that.

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But it's important to recognize what his complaints are.

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He hates the left because he hates them.

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He hates the right because he doesn't feel like they're far enough to the right and that

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they're secretly on the left.

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Right.

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Also, 18 years later and our passports do not include eye prints.

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Chalk that one up in the column of things Alex has not always been right about.

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Yeah.

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So in this time period, Alex wants to hear George W. come out and be like, segregation

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now, segregation then, you know, and then he'd be well above the left-right paradigm.

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Certainly beyond it.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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So we have another echo of the past that certainly plays in the present day quite a bit and that

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is the idea that if you pay with cash somewhere, you're going to go to prison.

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Well, sure.

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So paying cash triggers alert for terrorism in the new world.

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This is out of the Virginia pilot.

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Paying cash anywhere is now a terrorist act.

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They'll be phasing it out soon.

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So that has not happened yet.

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I mean, didn't India phase out all the paper money?

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Didn't Narendra Modi just be like, one day he was just like, no paper money.

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I'm not sure if that's been a full and total phasing.

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Yeah, well.

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I know that during COVID, there's been a lesser use of money.

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Well, for sure.

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We still use paper money.

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We do still use paper money.

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Totally fine.

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I used it earlier to purchase the drink that I am enjoying right now.

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Yeah.

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I was kind of suspicious about this and it takes him until the end of the episode to

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actually talk about what this article is about.

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Well, sure, sure.

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So I'm just going to jump forward now so we can close this with.

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Okay.

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So we're doing this in what it sounds like a really poorly written attempt at humor,

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but also no, but also at like, like a editorial kind of thing.

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Sure.

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And here's basically what's going on, but a polite equivalent of your money's no good

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here.

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Arrived in the mail the other day in the form of a note from the Sachs department store

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folks.

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The only reason we have an account with them is that my wife once said she wanted to get

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some Sachs and I hardly agree, only to learn that as a mutant Midwesterner, I'd once again

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misinterpreted her soft Virginia accent.

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Those women in Virginia do have pretty voices, fine Southern ladies.

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Anyway, the note from Sachs said that henceforth, it would not accept cash as a form of payment

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on store accounts in any form over $300.

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So that's the story.

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Some guy was, he learned that at Sachs, they don't accept cash on things over $350.

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I'm so infuriated by that.

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And there's a little bit of a, that's how with sexy Alex's show used to get.

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That's so fucking annoying.

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I just can't imagine one opening something from Sachs in the mail that goes in the garbage.

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Sure.

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That's too caring if you can't buy something more than $350 with cash.

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That's fine.

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Yeah.

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That's totally fine.

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Sure.

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That's slightly annoying to people buying things more than $350.

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It's also, if I were someone who was running a store like that, I might be suspicious of

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someone paying a thousand dollars for something in cash.

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Yeah, of course.

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I might be.

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Of course.

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Why wouldn't you be?

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I mean, I wouldn't judge them too much, but I'd be like, this money might be dirty.

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No, I mean, if somebody walks up to you, they're like, Hey, I want to buy this car for 20,000

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cash and I don't want you to give my name, you would be at least a little suspicious.

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Yeah.

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There might be a reason.

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Right.

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So Alex gets to talking some more about the Bin Laden family.

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He does not cover this story about Bechdel in depth or anything, but he does ramble a

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bit about the Bin Laden, how he's CIA.

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I love the song, I love the song Ramble On.

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Do you know who did that?

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Doors.

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It was the doors.

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One would have to hide on the dark side of the moon to not know that Bin Laden is CIA,

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to not know that his family, it was set up by British intelligence over 70 years ago,

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that they carry out dangerous missions for the new world order all over the world.

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And that if you want to build anything in the middle East, you go one place, the Bin

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Laden, and that you're not allowed to build any type of military structure or pipeline

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anything unless you go through the CIA and Her Majesty's Al-Qaeda.

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That's a lot of stuff being said.

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It does seem like there's a lot going on there.

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Yeah, so there's this claim that Bin Laden is CIA, and you have to be on the moon to

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not know that.

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No, he's committing worldwide wet work as we speak.

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I would say that Alex can't prove this at all.

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Oh, you don't think so?

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You know, the most he could probably do is say that people have theorized, and some believe

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quite strongly, that Bin Laden received some training from the CIA back in the 1980s when

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Bin Laden and the Mujahideen were fighting against Soviet communists.

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You could even be pretty reasonable in assuming that some of that financial support from the

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US did find its way to Bin Laden and his fighters in that period as part of Operation Cyclone,

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aimed at fighting communism abroad with the help of proxy armies.

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A strong argument could be made that the formation of Al-Qaeda was at least partially the effect

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of blowback from these behaviors and operations.

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The thing is that one can accept all the conventionally understood history of Bin Laden and his connections

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to the US and the CIA and still recognize that the claims Alex is making are unfounded.

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Saying that stupid geopolitical decisions inspired by the anti-communist hysteria of

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the Reagan era led to unforeseen and severe consequences is not the same thing as saying

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that Osama Bin Laden was in the CIA.

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It's very different.

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Yeah, it's wild to me to go to like, Osama is still working for the CIA, instead of immediately

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assuming that the CIA made a stupid and short-sighted decision that is perfectly in line with literally

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every decision that the CIA has ever made.

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Yeah, yeah, it's pretty-

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It makes sense.

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There's narrative consistency there.

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Yeah.

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So the second claim that Alex is making in that clip is that there's no construction

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that happens in the Middle East without the involvement of the Bin Laden family, which

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is nuts.

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Why?

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How?

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Well, Saudi Arabia is the majority owner of the Bin Laden Group Global Holding Company,

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formerly known as Saudi Bin Laden Group.

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They do have interest in a lot of construction and some incredibly high-profile projects

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like the Jeddah Tower, but it's a little much to pretend that they run a complete racket

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of all these construction projects in the Middle East.

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I mean, he does not want to learn about sovereign wealth funds, I'll tell you that right now.

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A Forbes Middle East estimate recently put the total value of projects in the Saudi Arabian

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construction market at $1.2 trillion, and that's not even considering like 713 billion

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in UAE projects, 578 billion in Egypt.

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It's a fun story to tell that the Bin Laden family has a stranglehold on the market and

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no one makes anything without their approval and that of the CIA, but it's not real.

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It's just a cartoonish exaggeration of the news that was reported about the ties between

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the Bin Laden family and the Bechtel Group that Alex is trying to inflate into being

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something completely different than it actually is.

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There are problems with the interconnectedness of these boards, and you can make some good

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arguments about the way contracts are baited on and doled out, and the sort of conversations

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are completely impossible.

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If the point that you want to start from is that Bin Laden is CIA and his family runs

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all this construction in the Middle East, it's a dead end if you're trying to understand

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the real world, and that's what Alex is ushering his audience towards.

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And also, like, the biggest construction groups in Saudi Arabia are run by the government.

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It's not the Bin Laden family.

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An incredibly corrupt government using this for their own personal gain in a way that

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makes perfect sense if you know anything about the history of that government.

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So Jordan, we've heard a lot about Alex predicting 9-11.

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Sure, he nailed it.

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We know that about a month before he did, Bill Cooper was saying the exact same stuff

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on his show.

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Sure.

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Well, I mean, and several times before that, Osama himself was saying it, which is probably

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why you could assume that it was a smart prediction.

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Alex in this next clip talks a little bit about where he got some of his ideas that

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the...

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Osama bin Laden?

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Nope.

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Oh, okay.

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Gary Hart, one of the chief neo-cons.

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I mean, he's a great Democrat.

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Of course, he's a leading neo-con now on the board there with the CFR and with Rudman.

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And they said, they said, we're going to be hit by terrorists when big, tall buildings

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are going to be in trouble.

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He sat on hardball, 4-9-1-1, started laughing.

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Chris Matthews laughed.

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It was a CFR moment.

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Lots of giggling around the table, lots of smacking, lots of rubbing hands together.

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And I got on the air and I said, look out, New York's about to get it.

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Call the White House, tell them to stop, to call off the attack.

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So Alex saw Gary Hart and Chris Matthews having a moment.

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Yeah.

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Was this a segment on the show back then?

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The CFR moment?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's your CFR moment for the day.

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Yeah.

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It was like the Daily Show at the moment of Zen.

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Exactly.

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Yes.

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Chris Matthews had the CFR moment.

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The CFR moment.

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Yeah.

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He had this blatant CFR moment happening in public, and he knew that there was going to

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be...

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Absolutely.

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Unfortunately, if you listen to him in the present day, it's a slightly different story.

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There's a different story?

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Let me tell you, folks, I told you they were going to blow up the World Trade Center and

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blame it on bin Laden.

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God gave me a vision, and that's the little added ingredient of M4s everybody knows about.

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It's not just that I know how to politically analyze all this stuff.

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I can get on my knees and go to that place, and then the problem is you're just in God's

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presence.

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You don't care that now you can actually see everything going on in the universe, plugging

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directly in to the source.

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And there was that time that he went on Rogan's show and said that he got it from a dream?

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Yes, there is that.

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Well, there was a two-hour thing I did in July 25th, 2001, where I went ahead and went

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on air and said, they're going to blow up the World Trade Center, blame it on the CIS,

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have been live, then launch all these wars.

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And I said, oh, I just got this from analysis information, but I kept having the dream of

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the towers, smoking, all the rest of it.

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I love the idea that in the present day, when he's talking to Rogan to try and be interesting,

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he's like, I claimed back then that it was based on analysis, but I just had this dream

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over and over again.

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Now we're looking back at 2003 and it's him saying that it was based on analysis, based

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on analysis.

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So we can only conclude that in 2003, all this episode talking about the CFR moment,

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he's lying.

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Yes.

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He's just had dreams.

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100%.

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Yep.

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Wow.

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Well, I mean, that's strangely conclusive proof that maybe he wasn't lying in the present.

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He was, hey, hey, I was lying in the past, okay?

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I'm coming clean on this one.

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No matter what I do, it's based on a lie.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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That's so funny.

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Did you ever notice how narcissists, as time goes on, the people in their stories tend

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to disappear and it's just them?

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You know, that whole Gary Hart thing just disappears into the past.

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The CFR moment.

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Yeah.

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Is but a dream.

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No, not a worry.

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Not a worry.

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In the present day, it was all me and God, baby.

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God gave him a vision of literally everything that was going to happen because he was so

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spectacular.

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He gets hand jobs from the arcane angel Michael, yeah.

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So we have this interesting dynamic in the past here where Alex is still trying to do

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that whole pretending the left and the right are the same kind of game.

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Yeah.

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I think it's a choice to get into that a little bit, and I think it's a little silly.

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Look, I've tried to explain the real political paradigm, okay?

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If you're on the far left, you've got police and black ski masks, giant prisons, incredible

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taxation, regulation control, a few strong men running things.

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That's socialism, communism, whatever you want to call it.

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That is what they do to us.

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On the far right, police and black uniforms, giant prisons, a few strong men running things,

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total control, high taxation.

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Sounds like the past five years.

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Look, until 100 years ago, the universities taught liberty, freedom, Magna Carta, Bill

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of Rights.

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It was a discussion of liberty versus tyranny.

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It wasn't a discussion of left and right.

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They've learned how to give you false choices.

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They go, oh, do you want the left and the right when there's no difference in substance.

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What?

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I do like we can kind of boil it down to the conversation is still between liberty and

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tyranny.

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I'm not just pretending that the right doesn't associate with tyranny.

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That's kind of your problem here.

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You guys just tried to institute a theocracy.

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I think we know what the left-right paradigm is, liberty versus freedom.

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Yeah, it's a little bit strange.

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I would say that that's a superficial analysis at best.

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The way he's trying to depict the left and the right as the same is essentially meaningless.

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And also, I don't know how he knows what they were teaching at universities 100 years ago.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I would say that he is not somebody I would take as a credible source on that.

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Sure.

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So yeah, that assessment I don't care too much about.

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The left and the right, it's just simplistic.

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You can take left-wing governments that have eroded into dictatorships and right-wing governments

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that have also eroded into dictatorships, and then you can find some superficial similarities

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between them.

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Sure.

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And I think that they're all the same.

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For a policy wonk, you'd think that he would bring up specific things that they agree on.

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No, just superficial things like there's big jails and people and police in black uniforms.

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Okay.

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All right, well, they solved it then.

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Also, I want you to keep this in mind.

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Typically speaking, if someone is trying to tell you that there's no difference between

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X and Y, there's a really good chance that they're super on the side of X or Y.

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Yes.

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They're usually not in the middle or neutral.

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It is strange.

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They're usually an extremist for X or Y.

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Usually they go from there's nothing between, there's no difference between X or Y, and

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then they push you strongly towards X or Y.

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Yes, it does seem like that is a pattern.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is trying to make this point that like the left and the right are the same,

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you know, blah, blah, blah.

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Sure.

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Fascism and communism, same thing.

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And here is how Alex makes that argument.

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There's no difference in substance.

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So call it fascism, call it communism.

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It's all command and control, maybe a little bit different implementation system, but yeah,

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you got Bush's grandfather getting detained and having to pay a million plus fine, Prescott

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Bush for running almost all Nazi operations globally, over 53% of their steel production,

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you name it.

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Prescott, the Senator.

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No help at all.

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You've at the same time got the other families funding the communists.

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I mean, this is what they do, folks.

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So Alex is really bad at his job in clips like this.

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Yeah.

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Like what does he mean by Prescott Bush?

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We're in almost all the Nazi operations globally.

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Did he run the cloning program in Brazil too?

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Totally.

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Okay, good.

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If you pay attention to that clip, you see one of the ways that Alex lies.

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He takes something that is true, namely that Prescott Bush did indirect business with the

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Nazis and then he embellishes it in a completely insane way, like claiming he ran almost all

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their operations globally.

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The assertion that Alex is making is nonsensical.

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He's saying that Prescott Bush profiteered by trading with fascists and that other rich

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families have profiteered by trading with communists, thus they must be the same.

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Same thing.

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It means nothing and is a silly argument.

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No difference.

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The argument that fascism and communism are the same because Alex believes them both to

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be command and control systems is equally meaningless.

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Alex throws out that term a lot, but it really is just a military term that the Joint Chiefs

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of Staff defines thus, quote, commanding control is the exercise of authority and direction

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by a properly designated commander over assigned forces in the accomplishment of a mission.

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The term has a broader understanding outside of strictly military situations to mean someone

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directs other people to get a task done.

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It does seem very self-explanatory whenever you just think of words and how they mean

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things.

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If this is the big similarity that Alex has that he thinks makes communism and fascism

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the same, I have a short list of other things that also must be the same as the Nazis.

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School.

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Yeah.

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Any job where you have a boss.

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True.

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Hospitals.

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Yeah.

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Firefighting.

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Construction.

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NASCAR pit crews.

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Nailed it.

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Any sport that has a coach.

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Correct.

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Any form of acting where there's a director.

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Every country in the world.

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This list goes on and on.

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Well, you didn't need to add that last one.

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Sure.

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By focusing on what he thinks is the only relevant factor in these two systems, Alex

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is actually obscuring the much more real and much more important differences between them.

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I think what Alex is trying to express is that communist countries have what's known

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as a command economy, where the government decides what should be produced and how much

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as opposed to letting the market decide.

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This is a defining aspect of communism as an economic system.

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The problem is when you try to juxtapose that with fascism, which isn't an economic system.

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If you look at the fascist countries during World War II, for example, you can see massive

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differences in the economic models that they employed.

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What Alex is trying to express is that communism by definition involves a command economy and

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that the Nazis also had a fairly command-based economy.

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The difference is that within communism it's an element of the economic ideology, but in

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the case of groups like the Nazis, it was just used because it was necessary to run

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an economy almost entirely based on war.

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We did the same thing during World War II.

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Yeah.

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It was a great idea.

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It worked out for everybody involved.

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This is not a meaningful, substantive connection between these two things.

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As I was listening to this episode, I was trying to give Alex a fair reading, and it's

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just what he's saying doesn't make sense.

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No, I mean, based on his definition of command and control, the fundamental idea of laws

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can't exist, because that is a designated body telling you what you can or cannot do.

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That simply cannot exist in his concept of both.

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I think if you went too far with it, yeah, you probably could get to that argument.

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I think I could get him to that argument.

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I don't think it would be hard.

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Oh, another thing that's command and control.

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Judges.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You're right.

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All laws should be abolished.

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Okay, Alex, that wasn't quite my point, but fair enough.

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So the thing, though, is that socialism always leads to fascism.

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You want to use these half-baked political terms, communist, socialist, fascist, I'll

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use them.

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Half-baked?

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And to use them, and more accurately, socialism leads to fascism.

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Over and over again, the bankers fund a socialist communist movement to consolidate power to

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get a big government, to get people dependent, and then it is transferred, once they're dependent,

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to a fascist government.

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Now that's what happens over and over again.

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That's just not true.

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But this conversation's probably impossible to have, because I don't think Alex is using

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any of these terms in the way that anyone else would use them.

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I don't know.

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This is a completely made-up claim that Alex is peddling that he can't back up at all unless

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he uses completely absurd definitions of the words socialism and fascism that I don't think

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anybody would agree with him on.

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Socialism is whatever it is he doesn't like, and if you can define it as something different

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from that, he will tell you that that's the secret way they talk about it, to cover up

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that what they actually mean is socialism.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So Alex, one of the big breaking points in his career, one of the times that he...

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Also, real quick.

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Yeah.

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He realized the idea that communism is half-baked.

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One of the most documented and argued about in books over and over and over again, refined

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and reinterpreted things, is half-fucking-baked.

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Karl Marx made it through three-quarters of Das Kapital and was like, eh, that'll do.

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Look, I tried.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'll put it out there and everybody else can finish the last 40 pages if they want.

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There's a salient difference between I disagree with this and it's half-baked.

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Yeah, it's half-baked.

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Yes.

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That is fake.

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Sorry.

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Sorry.

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I needed to beat that dead horse real quick.

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Hey.

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I say nay.

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No.

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So Alex broke into Bohemian Grove, right?

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Sure.

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Yes, he did.

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And you know, we've heard a lot of stories of him talking about his heroics.

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And now that we're in the future, he did it completely by himself with no other journalist

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there whatsoever who were also documenting the situation.

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Oh, you might be surprised to hear this then.

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Oh.

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I mean, you can't write stuff this crazy.

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I didn't believe in Bohemian Grove.

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I'd read about it.

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I'd heard about it.

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I didn't believe it.

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I'd read mainstream news articles.

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The British media says, Mr. Jones, we'd like to get you to sneak in.

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We really can't do it.

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But we're afraid to do it, Mr. Jones.

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We know you do things like this.

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Would you like to sneak into the Grove?

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I snuck in and I saw it, folks, okay?

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I saw it with my own two eyes.

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I got video of it.

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Alex in the present day would like to say that he was the first person to ever break

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the story wide open.

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Oh, of course, of course.

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Here he is in 2003 talking about how he'd read about it in the mainstream news before.

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And in fact, the British media approached him to do the story.

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He did not think of this by himself whatsoever.

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Hey, Alex, we hear you're a weirdo.

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He would never do it had he not had the push from the British media.

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Yeah, these are just some of these little differences between past versions of stories

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and present.

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Yeah, it seems like things change.

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Sure.

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Alex in the present is weird sponsors.

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Alex has a herb store or like, I don't know, I guess they have some colloidal silver and

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stuff that they sell that he's running an ad for.

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And it ended in a way that shocked me.

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What?

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Is this a Christian identity herbal shop?

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Oh, no.

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We're going to send you our 104-page catalog.

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Also, we've defeated the Zardons and if you call this number, we will be able to send

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you this catalog.

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Wait, you shouldn't have thrown the Zardons in there.

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What did you just say?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We're trying to save the remnant.

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That's interesting code to be in this commercial this far back.

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It seems like maybe Alex was, I mean, why would you have that as a sponsor if they weren't

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like a Christian identity type of herbal shop?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Natural place for us to advertise.

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Yeah.

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Why would you shoehorn that into your commercial?

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Very weird.

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Yeah.

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Very weird.

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I can't get over the idea of like Kellogg's just... Cornflakes, they're great.

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The thousand year war almost ended and if you want more Kellogg's cornflakes, like,

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wait, what did you just say?

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We will defeat the devil with my lucky charms.

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You can't just toss that in there, man.

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What are you doing?

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It is strange.

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So Alex is having a tough time with the Iraq war and all this, partially because he hates

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the people who were doing it.

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Sure.

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Vis a vis George Bush.

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Naturally.

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And all that.

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And I think that by free talking a little bit too much, I think that Alex reveals certain

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ways in which his ideology is inconsistent with what he wants the audience to believe

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it is.

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I mean, the government was leaving us alone and not trying to dumb our kids down and not

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trying to ship heroin and cocaine in and not doing all these things.

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They wanted to go invade a bunch of countries and, you know, bring them real republics and

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really have elections.

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I'd go, well, man, you know, maybe so.

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Violates what George Washington said about, you know, staying out of other hemisphere,

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but okay.

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But no, you don't destroy everything that makes America America.

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So Alex seems like he's fine with the idea of colonialism.

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Yeah, it does seem like that.

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Regime change, installing democracies abroad.

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Sure.

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Only in the case that the government wasn't doing the things that he doesn't like.

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Right, right, right.

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So I guess his opposition can't possibly be to meddling in the affairs of other countries

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or regime changing nation building.

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That is something that he is hypothetically okay with.

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But he will pretend that he's not.

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Yeah.

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I would be interested to know what Washington would consider a hemisphere.

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Alex's argument against the Iraq war seems to be vaccines.

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Yeah, I was going to say, it does not seem to...

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This is not sensible.

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No, no, no, no.

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It doesn't seem like he's like, hey, hey, we should be colonizing Central South America

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is what we do.

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No other hemispheres, Washington.

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No, I think he's saying that if our country was run the way I want it to be, we could

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go ahead and put in democracies around the world.

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Sure, of course.

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I just don't like these people.

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It's an incoherent and silly ideology that runs into problems really fast.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's the same thing with him wanting to buy Greenland when Trump is in office.

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For sure, for sure.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Let's just steal it.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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It's that kind of nonsense of like, oh, that is kind of what you believe.

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As long as it's your idealized Christian authoritarian government, you'd be totally fine if it was

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one world government.

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Of course.

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You'd be totally fine with all kinds of colonial expansivism.

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Well, then everything's one hemisphere, Dan, if it's all America.

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Don't care at all about the idea of freedom or self-determination and bullshit.

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It is like, okay, I get that we both don't want the Iraq war, but I don't want it because

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millions of people are going to be slaughtered for no reason, and you don't want it because

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you don't like the guy?

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I don't think we necessarily agree.

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I don't like tax.

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Yeah.

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I don't think that's a good... So Alex does an ad pivot here, and it's very

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sensible.

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It makes sense.

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This is kind of how... I'm not offended by this necessarily.

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Because what he's doing is advertising his products, which are like his DVDs and stuff.

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It makes sense for him to be like, there's more information on this.

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It makes more sense than him constantly throwing to pill commercials.

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Yes, it does.

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Because at least there's still hypothetical information to be found here, although I think

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he's lying.

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Well, some of us aren't afraid.

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We'll stand up for humanity because it's people like us, the only reason we still have humanity,

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to counterbalance the just insane filth out there.

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Before I end this shower, if you believe in what we're doing, you want to fight the New

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World Order, you want a tool to fight the New World Order, get my videos.

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I produced eight of them, and we proved the globalists carried out 9-1-1, and we proved

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they're going to carry out more, and we proved that they're enslaving you and your family.

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So on his documentaries, he proved that the globalists carried off 9-1-1, 9-11.

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I don't recall that.

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But do you recall when he did that interview a couple years back with Patrick Bette-David

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and Patrick Bette-David asked him who did 9-11?

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I do recall that.

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Who was really behind the 9-11 with what you've studied over the years and what you've spoken

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about?

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I don't know who's behind it.

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Oh, well, you should watch your DVDs then.

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You should watch the proof that you made.

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It seems like you would stick to the proof.

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Yeah, I would say that maybe you were wrong, or maybe you didn't prove anything.

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No, I'm just trying to, okay, my documentary's going to prove everything.

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The World War is coming.

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Now, I mean, obviously the capital gains tax should be about 40, 50%, and that's why

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we're like, wait, no, no, no, you threw the snot sequitur in there.

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It's fun.

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It's fun for him to forget that he proved who did 9-11.

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Yeah.

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It seems like a big thing to remember.

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Oh, well.

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Who did it?

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Alex doesn't know.

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I think I've watched those DVDs, and I don't think I know either, based on his proof in

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quotes.

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Yeah, I would like those redacted pages is what I want, Dan.

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So here's our first indication of something not being quite right in Austin.

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Sure.

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Alex is going out to break, and he says this.

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Again, that's 888-253-3139, defending the Republic against the forces of Satan.

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Uh-oh.

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Okay, there it is.

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The forces of Satan.

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And you could pull that off as being like, oh, look at him, he's making that exaggeration.

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Ah, come on, we've all used flowery language.

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Yeah, and it's going out to break on like a pump-up kind of thing.

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Yeah, totally.

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It sounds like a reasonable thing that you would say if you were just pumped up.

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And it also does feel like this is a little bit more than I've been giving a pass to a

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lot of stuff.

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It seems like I'm fighting against the forces of Satan.

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He's not as literal, he's not saying that as part of a 15-minute rant.

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Sure, sure.

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It is just going out to break, but it made me worry.

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It could be hyperbole, of course.

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Of course, however, you can't miss the forest for the trees, if you will, Dan.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So Alex goes to calls, and I think I've brought this up before, but there's such a sensible

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formula to his show at this point, and that is that he'll rant about something for a little

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while, and then go to calls, and then maybe the caller says something that he can talk

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about for a little bit longer, he'll read a headline or two, then go to a call, get

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maybe a reaction, that'll lead into a rant.

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There is just a fluidity to it that makes sense.

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Whereas now, it's such fucking long chunks of him saying nothing.

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Stream of consciousness chaos, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So it is, it flows much easier.

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And so this caller that Alex goes to at this point in the show brings up Rush Limbaugh.

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What do you think Alex thinks about Rush Limbaugh?

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He's grateful for someone giving him something to steal.

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Nope.

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Oh.

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I was listening the other day, driving in my car, and I happened to turn on Rush Slackjaw,

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and he was talking about it.

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You turned into the ultra-liberal, and the neo-con, and Bush is a communitarian.

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You know what the dictionary 20 years ago said about communitarian?

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No.

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One who promotes communist systems.

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Bush's press release for the election, I'm a communitarian, what do the communitarian

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Rush Limbaugh say?

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So apparently Rush Limbaugh's a commie.

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Yes, the communitarian Rush Limbaugh.

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Yes.

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Noted.

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The left commie Rush Limbaugh.

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The leftist among leftists, Rush Limbaugh.

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Right standing next to Bill Maher is people who are leftists beyond all reason.

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Yeah, see, I mean, you get this sense of like, okay, here's where the denial of the left-right

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paradigm is.

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Rush Limbaugh is a fucking commie.

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Yeah, just take a hit at somebody on the right, and then you're good, you know?

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And it doesn't have to be a substantial hit, you can just be like, that guy's a real dick.

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Hey, I'm above the left-right paradigm.

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So Alex is talking to this caller, and they bring up going to the World's Fair in the

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70s, I think.

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Sure.

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And they might have seen some Russian propaganda about ecological efforts.

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Okay, okay.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what's going on anymore.

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Talking about your lies and propaganda, I remember in 1974 I went to the World's Fair,

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and the theme of that World's Fair was ecology, and the worst exhibit there, the most propagandized

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exhibit was the Russian exhibit at that World's Fair, and you go through the Russian exhibit

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from one end to the other.

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All they said was how wonderful it was in Russia, there was no pollution, the waters

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were clean, the air was clean, all this stuff, it was exactly the opposite of what was reality.

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But now we're turning into the same kind of a system that I saw in 74 in the World's Fair

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in the Russian exhibit.

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Well, I'll be honest, if it was a new world, I'd leave, but I love America.

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What did you just say?

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And my family's been in the Texas independence fight, and for the battle for independence

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in 1776, but I gotta tell you, I'd be moving down there, I'll tell you.

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Well, I'll tell you, we need some states to break off, break away, get out of this thing,

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and get back to America, call it the real United States, because this isn't the federal

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government.

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Why?

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People running the federal government, they are the enemy combatants.

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Yeah, the federal government's enemy combatants.

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Sure.

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Now, the thing that I think is interesting about that clip, and the reason that I pulled

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it out was because this caller is expressing this idea that they saw this Russian display

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at the 74 World's Fair, and it is a delusional portrayal of what was really going on in the

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Soviet Union.

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And one of the things that he brings up is, like, there's no pollution, and then you flash

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forward to the present day, and Alex talking about how coal power plants are all totally

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clean.

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No pollution, yeah, Russia is just a perfectly clean thing, yeah.

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It's so interesting to see Alex becoming this thing that this caller is describing as being

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this horrendous act of propaganda in 1974 that he still remembers in 2003.

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Just don't care.

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Alex is completely delusional about accepting and recognizing and dealing with the sort

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of more bad history of the United States, to the point where he's even worse than probably

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whatever that Soviet Union Russian display was.

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Yeah, that is one of those things about fascists, is that once you're in power, all of the past

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is changed to whatever you want, you know?

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As long as Trump is running the United States government, the United States has never ever

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done anything wrong.

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And saying so is an attempt to undermine Trump.

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Exactly, yeah.

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Oh, you're gonna bring up slavery again?

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It's America, come on, man.

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You're trying to ruin the exuberance that is being felt.

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You're screwing up our good time, man.

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We're trying to slaughter innocents, and you're really making us bummed out.

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Yeah, it's very strange.

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By that I mean it's not strange at all.

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So hey, we got this idea that, left, right, same thing.

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Sure.

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Last two presidents, Clinton, Bush.

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No difference there.

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Both puppets.

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Sure.

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But were they equally responsible puppets?

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That's, what?

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What?

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Again, I have nothing really against Bush.

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Bush is more of a puppet than Bill Clinton.

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Bill Clinton was really in there, enjoyed all of it.

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Bush is really just reading off a teleprompter, and hey, thanks daddy, it's great to be able

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to preside him in the new world order in the end of America.

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So yeah, we've got these two presidents who are both puppets.

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Right.

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The left and the right.

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Sure.

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But somehow still the one that's on the left is worse.

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Right, right, right.

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Because he enjoyed it.

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So we're in a Pinocchio situation where Clinton is when Pinocchio was turned into a donkey

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for a while.

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Sure.

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And W is still the puppet, but he is not yet a real boy.

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Sure.

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And then Trump is the real boy?

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Yes, I guess.

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I think that's what happened.

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I think I've figured it out.

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Yeah, it's just remarkable to look at this and be like, oh yeah, this act of the left

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and the right are the same is so thin.

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It's so transparent.

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Yeah, you've already done it over and over and over again.

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Almost any time there's a comparison between someone who's on the left and someone who's

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on the right, you can see like some sort of derision towards both, but the left is way

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worse.

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Oh yeah.

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He enjoyed it.

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Their inclusion is what makes them evil.

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So Bush, he gave a warning to the U.S.'s supposed enemies and Alex believes that these are actually

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the globalist's enemies and here we get another wonderful prediction from Alex.

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Also Bush fires warnings at U.S. enemies, you mean globalist enemies, saying that other

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countries are next, so if they are going into other countries, they'll need to be a convenient

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terror attack.

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Blamed on someone though, don't worry.

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Much larger Gary Hart and other CFR people have told us with total confidence and then

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we'll call them profits when Dallas or Denver or Cleveland get hit by smallpox, as Gary

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Hart said on national television on hardball, well he said that before 9-1-1, he just said

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that on Hattie and Combs.

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So this is one of the problems with relying on quote-unquote CFR moments and that sort

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of thing as being predictive of what's going to happen in the world.

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When Gary Hart says something like we're worried about smallpox cases in an American city,

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and you read that as there's going to be, to justify another war, you're just making

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shit up.

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And that's what we see here.

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No, and it's the most powerful type of making shit up propaganda, wherein somebody trying

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to protect you from a thing that's happening, you have turned into the person trying to

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cause the thing that's happening, thus ensuring that the thing they're worried about almost

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certainly will happen, and then you get to bitch about how they didn't see it coming.

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And then you have these kinds of instances of things that just litter Alex's career,

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that just things never happen, and we're just totally talking out of his ass, he just pretends

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that that isn't a bulk of his career.

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Well the last time I visited Denver, there were about four people there after the smallpox

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epidemic destroyed most of the city, but they were really cool to hang out with.

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There's only lone survivors.

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They did try and eat my leg.

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So look, we get another caller.

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Sure.

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This guy's got an interesting idea.

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Naturally.

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And by interesting I mean very stupid.

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Terrible.

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Yeah.

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So stupid that Alex has to end the conversation by saying, I don't speculate.

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No.

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Let's talk to Andrew in North Carolina, Andrew you're on the air, welcome.

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Hi Alex, how you doing?

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Good sir.

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I had an idea, I don't know if you'd support me on it, the idea popped in my head a while

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back while I was tying down a little glass.

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Anyway, the idea was how much of a coincidence that a little girl gets kidnapped in Utah

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and just so happens that her last name is Smart.

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And the fact that there's a Smart Chip out there and now her parents and Amber's parents

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have signed the Amber Alert Bill, which turns over all radio, TV, billboards to FEMA and

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they're now flashing report terrorist, report guns.

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And then it turns out that she's related to a Congressman and all this other stuff.

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And then there's some weird freak weather.

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And yeah, the whole thing stinks to high heaven, but I don't know, sir.

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I don't speculate.

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You were just speculating.

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Wow.

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Hey, listen, I'm going to take your wild, insane speculation and I'm going to speculate

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on that, but listen, I don't speculate.

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I'm going to rattle off things that are meant to give justification to speculation, but

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man, I do not speculate about whether or not the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping was an elaborate

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globalist plot to put chips in everybody.

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I would never speculate on that.

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I mean, obviously that plan is in play and they could do it at any point in time.

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And you know what?

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I was told there were going to be Silicon chips, turns out they're going to be made

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of Amber.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Amber.

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Smart chips.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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Yeah.

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I think that's the type of theory if somebody comes at you with, you just have to roll up

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a newspaper and be like, no, bad.

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I think that I would love to just like, God, my dream job at Info Wars just keeps changing.

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Now it's, I want a clip of Alex saying, I don't speculate.

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And then every time you start speculating, it's going to hit a button.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't speculate.

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The big red button.

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Boom.

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Uh oh.

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Stop it.

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It's just a repeat until the speculation ends.

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Yeah.

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So 9-11 was proven by Alex to have been carried out by people who can't remember who they

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are though.

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That was in the past.

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Yep.

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But there are some signs, there's some telltale signs of how you know that the man was behind

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it.

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Sure.

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Why else would they have the Chicago Mercantile exchange on 9-1-1, the one year anniversary

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come up 9-1-1 point zero zero zero zero zero zero.

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What?

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I saw the article that said 9-1-1 point zero.

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I went and looked up on the Chicago Mercantile, the close of that day.

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The zeros went on basically forever.

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That's never happened.

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That's impossible.

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But what you're thinking, that was just a fluke.

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Oh, it came up 9-1-1 at the New York Lottery on 9-1-1, one year anniversary.

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Just their little mark.

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Hey, we control the lotteries, we control the exchanges, the speculation exchanges,

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down to the point they close it.

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So I'm not sure that they, I believe this, it sounds like an urban legend kind of situation.

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It does.

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It does.

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For one thing, according to the CME website, which is the name of the Chicago Mercantile

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exchange when they're listed as a publicly traded entity, the CME group, they didn't

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go public until December 5th, 2002, when they had their initial public offering of stock.

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They wouldn't have even been a stock price for CME on September 11th, 2002, since it

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wasn't traded.

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Oh, that was a real sneaky move by the globalists.

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Yeah, I don't know what he's referring to.

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They really nailed it.

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I don't know.

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I think he might have seen a meme or something.

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This level of bullshit might as well, oh, okay, okay.

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Did you see that George W. Bush has been complimenting people a lot lately?

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Yes.

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Another word for that is lauding.

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Do you see what I'm saying?

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Oh shit.

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So, and he's been doing it repeatedly over time, so you could say he's been lauding people.

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Oh shit.

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What does that mean?

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We nailed it.

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It means something.

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He is been lauding.

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So people have looked into the lottery thing, and that one actually is true, but it doesn't

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actually mean anything.

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The state lottery in New York does, they pick two, pick three winners each day.

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The numbers.

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Sure, sure.

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The sets of three numbers.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And the other combination coming up is one in a thousand.

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Because there are two drawings, the odds of 911 hitting on any given day are one in 500,

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which really, it's an interesting coincidence, but it's far from proof that the globalists

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did it to show that they control lotto numbers.

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Yeah, it's fun, but you might as well use that as also like, oh, I had to call 911 that

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day.

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It's a miracle.

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Sure.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's just weird how much of Alex's supposed proof of things relies on just denying that

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coincidences exist.

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Yeah.

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Well, they don't.

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It's a little annoying.

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There's no such thing as a coincidence.

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Because there's no real way to argue that.

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You could be like, well, the statistical odds of that coming up are not really that insane,

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and I don't know what you're talking about with the mercantile exchange.

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Sure, yeah.

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But yeah, all right, go off.

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Anyway, Alex is talking to this caller, and they got into an argument, this caller and

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someone in their life, because they didn't agree on the Federal Reserve.

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Sure.

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Right?

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Well, who can?

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Well, there was an interesting theory about what was going on there.

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You guys were having a boring conversation?

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You bet.

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They don't need any facts.

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They just need to feel good.

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Exactly.

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Yes, and the conversation I had, I was basically being yelled at and told.

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I tried to tell this guy, you know, because it went in so many different directions at

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one time.

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I was telling him, you know, your income tax monies go to the IMS and Federal Reserve and

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so on and so forth, and no, no, they don't, no, they don't, you know, it's just a loud

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vehement denial makes it true.

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And uh...

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Now, wait a minute, though, if he didn't have some problems subconsciously, the subconscious

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is much more powerful.

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What is happening?

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It's a powerful processor, God gave us, it knows the truth, whereas the conscious doesn't.

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Don't do this.

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This guy, if he'd laugh at you if it wasn't serious, you know, me thinks they protest

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too much.

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Why do they get so excited then?

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So I guess...

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Because you guys are the worst to talk to!

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I guess anyone arguing with you is an indication that you're right now.

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Yeah, exactly!

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Because if you're wrong, they'll just laugh at you.

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Somebody says no.

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What?

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Oh, God.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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That's outrageous.

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Yeah.

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So this guy, this caller, he was told by someone to just believe the news.

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Sure, sure.

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And I bet that's not what this person said to them.

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It's doubtful.

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But Alex's response to it is so telling.

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I wanted to lay a quote on you from this guy.

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I believe in too many conspiracy theories, and you just gotta watch the news and believe

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it.

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That's what he told me.

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And he's a successful businessman.

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That's right, I'm successful, I'm important, I'm part of this power system.

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You just need to watch the news and believe it, and be part of it.

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I'm reporting you, you're with Al-Qaeda.

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Nazi Germany, Nazi Germany.

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So, I don't believe that this caller is reporting things accurately that his friend just said,

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watch the news and believe it.

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Kind of doubtful.

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But, you know, let's imagine that that's actually someone's position.

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Sure.

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That is a crippling level of naivete and lack of critical thinking that you're approaching

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information that's coming to you with, and I would be opposed to what this supposed person

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said.

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You know what, I would even argue that I would be above the left-right paradigm in saying

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that that is a bad way of consuming media.

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Sure.

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Now, Alex has a couple of options in terms of addressing the situation.

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You could say something like that, like, hey, your friend should engage more critically

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with the information that's coming to you, and you should as well.

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Or he could have blanket defiance.

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I think that would be a better way to go.

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Which I think is just as stupid.

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I think it's just as stupid to mock the idea of ever listening to the news and being like,

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it's Nazi Germany.

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It's not, it's the pendulum swinging too far the other direction.

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And that's what he wants.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter how you get to consume whatever it is uncritically, whether it be

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eating it or denying it.

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Yeah, whether it's CNN or World Night Daily, like, he wants them to accept World Night

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Daily uncritically.

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Sure.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Of course.

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And hostility towards things that are saying the other.

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Well, you can trust them, and you can't trust anybody else, because it's Nazi Germany day.

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Sure, sure.

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Yeah.

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It's not a bad path, and I would say that he's not setting up his listeners for success.

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It's a strategy that won't get you into a better engagement with information.

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It'll just make you believe something else.

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You'll be tricked by something else.

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It'll make you a captive to your information source, and then you'll be like, oh, I should

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give him money, because he's saving me from the rest of the evil media.

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And then all of a sudden you're going to start believing that he's the Messiah, actually

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fighting the literal devil.

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And then he will believe that.

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And then we're all out of control.

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So Alex is right about something in this episode.

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Interesting.

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He is right that it's stupid that people say that they would die for George Bush.

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I think that is stupid.

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Mike Hanson does some camera work for me.

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He got some video that I just finally saw this week.

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He's had it for a month.

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They were having the pro-war Bush rallies downtown in Austin.

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They had like 30 people there.

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Mike walks up.

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I wasn't there.

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I was with one other person and says, hey, why are you for the war?

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And the guy just screams, Mike Hanson, you're with Alex Jones.

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I will, and he bleep, bleep, you're, you're hined in if you don't say you're for George

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Bush and started threatening to assault Mike.

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This is on tape.

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And Mike goes, hey, you're on camera.

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And he goes, and Mike goes, wait a minute.

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So what do you think of George Bush?

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I'll die for him, I'll die for him, I'll die for him, I'll die for him, I'll die for him.

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I was like a Iraqi just screaming they love the leader because the media said so.

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And, you know, they're mindless slaves of the media and the neocons are controlling

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them.

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Jump into a time machine with me, Jordan.

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Come to the present.

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Yeah.

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They can put a gun to my head and say, if you don't come out and say you hate Trump,

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we're going to blow your brains out.

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And I'd say, pull the trigger.

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Okay, Alex, calm down.

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Yeah.

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Also, I love how dainty he's being.

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This man was threatening to fight me.

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He's threatening my camera man.

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He came up to me and he used curse words and he said that he would hurt me physically.

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I can't repeat these things because it's a family show and I actually kind of mean it

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back at this point.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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God.

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What a dick.

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So Alex has another caller and this guy, he had a similar vibe to me as that, that one

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caller who was like, it's 8 a.m. in China, time to get up.

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Gotta drive to work.

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Alright, alright.

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That guy.

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He's got a, he's got a Matthew McConaughey kind of vibe to him.

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It's not the same vibe, but this was a caller who was like, I want to listen to you talk

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some more.

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Alright.

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In the same way.

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Larry, you're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Hey Alex, good day.

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How you doing?

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Did you hear Jeanette Hanson this morning on the Peacock Channel?

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Well, they call it the Peacock Channel, but if you strip his wings off, sure looks like

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an oblique view of a horned owl to me.

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Get him!

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I love it.

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Who the fuck are you, man?

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That is great.

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I just imagine that guy writing that out while he's on hold.

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I was gonna say, that's not a turn of phrase that one just pops into mind.

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Oh, the Peacock Network, it looks like an oblique horned owl to me.

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That's well practiced, sir.

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Yeah, that was, that's either a mirror or a thing you have said to a lot of people to

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bore them.

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Yeah, I wish his call was more interesting, but I did enjoy that.

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That is nice.

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He came out swinging.

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Yeah.

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Ah, that's good.

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He gets to talking about a story that his cousin told him, and I don't know if this

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is Buckley.

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I don't think it is.

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It could be any cousin.

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Yeah, it must be another cousin.

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And unfortunately, all, well, you'll see.

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Okay.

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My cousin, two Mondays ago, was sitting in my living room, been in the Army for 20 years.

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He's an officer.

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They were given a briefing this year.

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They're all getting microchips, the entire armed services.

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And then it goes into the general public, and they're telling them brace for more terror,

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we'll have to give up all our rights, the Army's gonna run our lives, but the border

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will stay wide open.

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Okay, so 18 years later, the military isn't all chipped, right?

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They are all chipped.

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Ooh.

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Yes.

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So Alex was right about this?

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Or was he wrong about this?

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No, 100%.

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Every single military member is chipped upon introduction.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know those guys, the recruiters at your high school?

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Yeah.

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And when they shake their hand, they are implanting you with a computer.

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They have one of those little assassin's blades?

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Exactly, yeah, yeah.

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No, it's like a clown buzzer, you know?

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But you get it, and they're like, ha ha, wasn't that a funny joke?

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And then they stare deep into your eyes and program you.

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Right, right.

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And then, to get you out of your trance, a flower on their lapel squirts you with water.

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Yes, it squirts you in the...

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's how you wake up.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then, naturally, they slip on a banana peel, walking away from you.

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Of course.

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So everybody's getting chipped.

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Uh-huh.

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They're all getting this one to come around.

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Right.

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But this caller has verified Alex's story, because they have also heard that a military

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friend of theirs is talking about how everyone's getting chipped.

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Military friends are popular these days.

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And Larry in Louisiana was saying he just talked to an E-8 that got back from North

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Korea who said they're all getting their chipped, got the same briefing.

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You know, that's Twilight Zone, folks, but you're not patriotic if you're against it.

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Let me tell you what the tactic's gonna be.

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The globalists are gonna blow stuff up and claim that anti-chipping, anti-biometric groups

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are doing it.

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And so if you're anti-chip, anti-world leader, you're with the terrorists.

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Larry, you can see the script, can't you?

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Yes, I see it exactly.

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So, I mean, this is what I'm talking about when I say that this is just interactive improvisational

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storytelling.

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Yeah.

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Alex is just coming up with a story for them to get excited about on this day.

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Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Now, the globalists are scripting this stuff, so that's how I can predict it.

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I know that this is what's gonna happen, they're gonna blow up stuff and blame it on the anti-chip

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people.

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Naturally.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Anti-chip people.

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Now, here's what's interesting.

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What's interesting?

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I think I would be opposed to mandatory chips.

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Oh, yeah.

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I haven't given it enough thought to really have a strong position on it, let's say, but

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whatever direction I would fall on it after giving it some thought, I'd have a pretty

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coherent position on it.

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Yeah.

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I would want a couple of assurances like mind control.

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First question.

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Are you gonna mind control me?

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Right?

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You can't ask that.

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I've gotta ask that.

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What else would I ask?

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Well, I mean, obviously the answer is gonna be no, even if it's yes.

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Yeah, but I gotta look them in the eyes.

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Right.

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I'll know if they're lying to me.

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They're evil eyes.

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Exactly.

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You gotta look into the evil eye and then I can tell.

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Yeah, sure.

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Mind control, no good.

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Yeah, exactly.

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What else?

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No mind control.

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Electroshocks, no good.

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No, I think I'd be fine with a little electroshock here and there, you know, but as long as it's

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not somebody doing something, doing it for weird reasons.

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Ooh, I think you're going to have to really litigate what's weird.

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Well, again, we're going to sit here.

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We're going to talk about it.

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I'm going to look them in their evil eyes and we're going to hammer it out.

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Our next bonus episode can be going over the conditions under which you approve of chips.

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Yes, exactly.

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Well, I'll have a full-

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We'll really work this out.

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Right out of contract.

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But for Alex, he's supposed to be totally against it.

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Yes.

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He thinks that it's like the mark of beast stuff.

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It's the mark of the beast.

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Unfortunately, he's inconsistent as hell.

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To be in the army, they want someone who will take a microchip.

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I mean, I am some weird one, you know, you can see special forces getting one, but no,

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the entire troops all for their identification, no, no, this is setting the precedent.

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Wait, so, but why wouldn't special forces getting it be setting a precedent?

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Well, you got to mind control special forces, Dan.

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But you understand, this is silly.

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This is nonsense.

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I am staunchly opposed to giving microchips to people in the military unless they're in

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special forces.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, obviously you want Green Berets to have computer chips.

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That's just, that just makes perfect sense.

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I don't understand why.

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I don't get what the relevant differences between people in special forces, if the argument

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is that Alex is trying to make, which is a big part of it, which is they give it to the

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military.

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That normalizes it.

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So then it becomes something that goes to the citizens.

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Right.

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Now you could just take one step further and be like, they give it to special forces.

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That normalizes it for the military and that normalizes it for the population.

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No, no, no.

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Slippery slopes only work if you start where I say this top is.

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It doesn't make sense.

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No, no, no, no.

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Just cause we're starting in the middle of the slippery slope, meaning that we've already

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had to go from somewhere to get here.

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This is pretty dumb.

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Yeah.

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So 2003 was a very different time in the anti vaccination community.

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Oh, that's good.

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No, it wasn't.

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No, I didn't think so.

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It wasn't great then either.

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No, I doubted it.

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So some of these ideas about autism links with vaccination and like mercury and the

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preservatives and stuff, it was a little bit less uniform in the anti-vax community.

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They hadn't had a lot of the other, let's say maybe even stupider ideas shot down.

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Right.

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Right.

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Was this...

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Jenny McCarthy was...

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I'm not positive about her timeline.

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Yeah.

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I don't know that either.

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I'm not sure, but I do know that at this point there are anti-vax proponents who are making

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the argument that mercury in the preservatives has a link to autism.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Now at this point, Alex doesn't think that.

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Alex is trying to stake a claim on something weirder in anti vaccination.

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All right.

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Okay.

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That he will not stand by today, I don't think.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Boy believes a mercury-based preservative added to the vaccines during the 90s may have

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caused the autism.

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Uh-uh.

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That's the cover story.

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It's the hormone designed in a brain development hormone to attack cerebral cortex development.

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Most of you just get an IQ reduction, people that compromise immune systems get severely

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retarded or autistic.

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Little gift from your government.

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So Alex doesn't say what this hormone is, and I'm not sure.

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I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase and then just assume that I found whatever

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he's talking about.

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But if he does get into this, we'll talk about it in greater depth.

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But yeah, so the argument is being put forth to him that there is mercury in the vaccines

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and stuff.

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That is pretty close to his current position on anti vaccination.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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That is safe territory for him now.

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Sure.

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But back then, he didn't have that.

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He wanted another, he wanted his own version of this.

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Yeah, he had to jump it up.

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It wasn't just mercury, which is a natural occurring, it's a naturally occurring element.

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You can drink gallons of that stuff, they're fucking with you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, what it is, is they grow hormones in labs for brains to then put in there and that's

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what does it.

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Yeah, I think that's interesting.

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I would like to know what he feels about this now.

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That would be interesting.

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He believes that there's some weird hormone that's actually behind, and I wonder if he'd

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like to interview some of his weird anti-vax friends about that.

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Oh, that would be interesting.

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See if they stand by that nonsense.

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Yeah, what do you got?

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So Alex gets a caller.

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This made me so happy.

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God damn, did this make me happy.

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Was this back when Young Man House Phone was around?

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No.

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Oh.

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This caller is the same person who called and Alex argued with him about the Republic

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of Texas.

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Okay, okay.

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And Alex is clearly annoyed with this guy.

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Sure.

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And you don't really get, like, it doesn't become clear that Alex knows who he's talking

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to until the end of this clip.

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And that's when it just, this is great.

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This is just so good.

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All right.

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Later on when this crap goes down, this bad stuff goes down, we need these people on our

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side.

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So just real quick as a sort of introduction, this caller has said that he took one of Alex's

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films to the Aspen Sheriff's Department and he woke up the sheriff and everybody on the

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force.

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And so, like, now Aspen-

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That really does sound like it happens, though, doesn't it?

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I don't think so.

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It feels like that's how they get-

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I think it might happen where someone is like, hey, did you watch that DVD?

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Blew my mind, man.

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Real good.

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Yeah, it killed it.

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It was great.

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Gotta go.

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So anyway, that's what the beginning of this call is.

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Well, we do.

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I mean, I have nothing against police.

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Standing with a constitutionalist and standing against the New World Order and the deception,

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the lies, and the fraud.

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I heartily agree with you.

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What you did was just so- is this Aspen, Texas, or Aspen, Colorado?

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It's Aspen, the Republic of Texas.

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They call it Colorado, but it still belongs to the Republic of Texas.

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No, I understand.

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But-

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The Northwest Territory.

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So where is this in Texas?

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This is up in the Rocky Mountain.

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Yeah, that's what I said.

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Is this in Texas, or is this in Colorado?

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Well, they call it Colorado, but-

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I understand, sir, but-

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It belongs-

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Okay.

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Okay, Alex?

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No?

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Okay.

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I know.

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I think he called about this earlier a few days ago.

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He did.

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I like the thread that's going through these episodes that I'm getting to enjoy where Alex

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is pissed off by Republic of Texas people.

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It is nice.

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It is nice.

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I do appreciate that.

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Because he has this whole thing that's like, Texas is its own country, it gets a seed.

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But these other people are like, yeah, Texas is a country, and it involves a bunch of place

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to the north.

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Yes, I do.

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I do.

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We got most of New Mexico, Colorado.

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I don't appreciate how that community is still allowed to have people that are too far out

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there.

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Y'all are crazy.

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Don't judge them for being like, and also the Northwest Territory is ours too.

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You are mad because your ideas look just as ridiculous as theirs, and theirs make you

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feel ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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I think that is a part of it, and I think that something that I really enjoy is Alex's

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ability to sort of play with the guy back then.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Like, Alex could not do that now.

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No.

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The idea of him sitting there and being like, is that Aspen, Texas, or Aspen, Colorado?

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Yeah, him doubling down on like, hey man, just go ahead and say exactly what you and

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I both know you're about to say.

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I recognize your voice.

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You know that you're the guy who pisses me off about the Republic of Texas.

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Yep, yep.

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I know, I'm gonna ask you this leaded question.

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Hey buddy, hey buddy, Aspen, I know, I've heard a name of Aspen before, and is that

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a city in Colorado, buddy?

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Nope, Texas.

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No, Texas.

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So we get another caller, and this fella is really lauding Alex, been lauding him.

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Nice.

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About opposition to the Patriot Act.

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Yes.

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There have been some places that have passed resolutions, some cities, city councils, and

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what have you.

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If you listen closely to this clip, though, this caller is congratulating Alex for doing

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something that he himself is literally saying was done by communists.

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Well, the Democrat socialist, Steve Leal, the resolution's primary sponsor on the city

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council, said if the EPA were talking about lessening water's quality standards, we'd

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think it was a city issue, but if they're polluting our rights, it is also a city issue.

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So this guy, you know, you did some good, and I wanted to commend you on it, and they

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got your resolution, because I know at least a dozen people that send your resolution to

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the city council and also to the county.

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And so you got some positive results, and we want to thank you for it, and I'm really

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proud that my communist city government decided to support the Constitution of the United

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States.

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Oh, isn't that cute?

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He's calling these people super-left socialists who wrote the resolution.

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You can't do that.

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And the communist government passed it, but somehow Alex is responsible for this.

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It's outrageous.

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This is kind of amazing.

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You know what?

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I get it.

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I get it.

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Every time something good happens, it's because of the left ideas, but you can't just allow

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them.

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What's done by actual activists, primarily on the left, is sometimes yelled about and

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taken credit for by people who yell, like Alex.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's all he does.

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He just yells.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, once something becomes popular, then it's the conservatives who did it, like, oh, man,

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Social Security, Medicare, we can't let that stuff get out of hand.

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I mean, naturally, when it was being passed, we would have called it a communist land grab

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trying to kill us all and steal our money.

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But now that it has, now that we have it and it works, wow, it's our favorite program.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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There is that phenomenon.

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Yep.

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So Alex, towards the end of this episode, gets a little bit into his own head, and he's talking

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a bit about how, like, people ask him why he's not dead, fighting the globalists, and

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what have you.

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And he talks about being ready to die for freedom.

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I mean, if they put a gun to my head right now and said renounce freedom, renounce your

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family, renounce God, or we'll kill you, I'd say pull the trigger, bud.

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I mean, I would.

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Go ahead.

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It's remarkable how that's almost exactly mirrored by if someone had a gun to my head

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and told me to denounce Trump, I'd say pull the trigger.

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Yeah.

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Freedom, God, family, all that, just sort of Trump.

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Oh, boy.

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It's kind of depressing.

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It's super depressing.

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So we have one last clip, Jordan, and in this clip, Alex is in a bit of a rant about being

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alive.

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Right.

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And he has felt things.

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I suppose that I will accept that as a premise.

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And I think that this is getting a little bit closer to that territory of religiosity

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that we might be keeping our finger on the pulse of.

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That sounds right.

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If you don't know how evil they are, if you aren't burning with desire to expose the New

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World Order, you're nuts.

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And if we just have this upfront, ready to sacrifice, ready to stand up attitude about

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defending America, this New World Order would not be here.

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We become fat and decadent and always about the next pleasure.

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And so we're dead on the inside.

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So you know what?

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I have really lived.

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I can say that I have lived.

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I have been so alive, it hurts, okay?

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I have had understandings that are painful.

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I have plumbed the depths of the New World Order.

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I can't even articulate it.

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And I know a lot of you have too.

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And you have perspectives that I don't have and a lot of you are smarter than I am.

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But I know this.

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I am on my course and I'll tell you this, we're a lot safer standing up and speaking

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out and being bold and depending on God's preservation, depending on God's providence

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and God is real.

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I have had experiences.

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I know God is real.

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I have faith.

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And God isn't on the 700 Club, folks, I'm sorry to tell you.

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God isn't in these big churches.

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I'm sorry.

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He's not, folks.

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God is in your heart if you simply let him in.

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And that's what we're talking about here.

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And I'm telling you, if you don't hate evil and are not disgusted by it, something is

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wrong with you and you are not alive.

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There is not even a question.

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Frankly, there is not even temptation anymore.

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When you go this far into the fight against the New World Order, it is a total commitment.

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You will be so alive.

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It will completely consume your life because you will be fighting pure evil.

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You must join in the fight against the New World Order.

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That's one of the things that I always love, the idea that Alex brings out that it's like,

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I no longer feel human emotions.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I have no longer drawn to sin.

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I have progressed beyond that which other mortal men know.

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Because the fight on the globalist is so strong in the New World Order.

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I found that clip to be really on the line.

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Yeah.

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Because I do think an argument can still be made that a lot of that is, you know, it's

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just kind of Christian-ish.

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Yeah, I think that's-

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God's in your heart, he's not in the 700 Club.

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Sure.

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That's not as extremist, certainly, as a lot of the stuff we hear more recent days.

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Right.

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And when he says that you're up against pure evil, that could still be metaphorical flourish.

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Sure.

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As opposed to what we know he believes now.

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Naturally.

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No.

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That's what he believes.

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Yes.

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Invading people.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that is true.

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I do think that should come out much sooner in a conversation and it should be something

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that you have to lead with.

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Like if you're doing Alex's show, you should have to lead with like, I believe that our

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political enemies are literally controlled by the devil like every day.

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Yeah.

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Just like if when I meet somebody, they're like, you should have to tell me if you believe

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that the biblical flood story is 100% true.

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And then I can be like, okay, fine.

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Then you don't get an opinion on vaccines.

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You know, like just get it out of the way so we can move forward.

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I don't need to know anything else about you.

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I think, I think it's more like a situation where, um, if, if you're gonna like, let's

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say start dating somebody or whatever, and they don't tell you that they think the earth

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is flat.

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Yeah.

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It's rude.

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That's kind of irresponsible.

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That's rude.

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And I, yeah, I think, I think that Alex as a person who's conveying information, I think

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it is, it is relevant if you believe that the devil is behind the gears of your enemies.

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I think you should be upfront about it because it gives people the ability to consider that

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in the totality of the information you're presenting and taking it more seriously.

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I honestly can't quite tell yet.

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Yeah.

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Um, no, I agree.

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I've heard, but there's more indications than I was expecting necessarily.

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And I think it's probably not coincidental that like this, God is real.

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God is there.

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Right.

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Is at the end of his episode.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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I don't think that he would leave the episode with it.

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No, I would doubt that.

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I think that's there for the, the stalwarts, the people who are, who are in.

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Yeah.

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If you have a disclaimer for like a video game trailer, that's like, some scenes are

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not actual gameplay.

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You should at least have to have a disclaimer for like, also believes that the devil is

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real.

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You know, like that should be there.

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Yeah.

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Somewhere.

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I mean, his bumpers coming in from break are like, you know, like, do you want to fight

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corruption?

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Well, so does he.

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Like, that's not what this is about.

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No, no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do you believe that you're a crusader against the literal Christian devil?

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That's this show.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Well then now we get it.

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Do you think that demons jump into people and make them go bleh?

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Yes.

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Yes, I do, sir.

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I will listen.

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Well, so does Alex.

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Yes.

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There we go.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's, uh, it's an interesting, it's an interesting progression and I'm fascinated

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by this and I, and this is so much more listenable, uh, in the past.

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Like it's totally, totally, it's, it's absolutely, and these callers are weirdos in a fun way.

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It seems like a show.

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Yeah.

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It seems like a show.

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Yeah.

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What we listen to now is not a show.

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That is just a man unraveling.

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Well, you know, too, like one of the things that's really fun and creates comedic tension

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in like Frasier is that some of the callers are annoying to him.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Of course.

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It's a fun show.

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There's this tension.

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You don't know what you're going to get.

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Yeah.

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It's this Republic of Texas person keeps annoying.

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That's so funny.

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And, uh, yeah, I enjoy that and, uh, I hope that every episode I listen to he gets into

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a fight with somebody who believes just slightly the wrong thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just, oh man.

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It's so ridiculous that you think that the Magna Carta is still the law of the land

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unless you're in capital letters and it's a corporation.

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Now obviously the literal Christian devil is sending demons into people's brains to

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control their actions.

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Tell me.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Um, anyway.

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Yeah.

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Jordan, this has been a, an episode.

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Indeed it has.

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Uh, we will be back checking in on the present day, I believe on our next episode.

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But until then, we got a website.

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We do have a website, Dan.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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We have a Twitter.

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We are on Twitter, Dan.

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It is at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed.

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Jordan.

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Yep.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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And if you would like to download the show, please go to, and if you could please find

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a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.

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Yeah.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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