Transcript/546: April 1-3, 2021

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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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I love you.

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I'm going to get you.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.

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I need money.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Stop it.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a fifth-time caller, I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.

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Hello, Alex, I'm a big fan color, I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge Fight, knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,

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drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit

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about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Indeed.

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Dan?

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Yes, sir.

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Quick question.

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Jordan.

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, I had a realization

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that I've been listening to a fair amount

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of some podcasts for entertainment.

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Sure.

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Decompressing that high stress week or so,

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and I realized that one of the things

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that I really gravitate towards,

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there's a through line through a lot of them,

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and that is Matt Gourley.

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Matt Gourley's great.

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I think he adds so much to a podcast.

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He's great.

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And his vibe is so gentle and friendly.

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Underrated.

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As a counterweight to my listening

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to Alex Jones all the time,

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it really feels like that's like a balm

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that I can, Matt Gourley's a balm I can put on my hand.

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Matt Gourley's a classic glue guy, you know?

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He's like a Phil Hartman.

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He's got that Dave Foley kind of like

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straight man energy to him,

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but he's also incredibly hilarious.

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Very sharp.

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Really, really funny.

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And also I want to try and exploit my platform

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to now be like, if we're big enough.

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Hey, Matt Gourley, get over here.

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Come on, Matt Gourley, come on now.

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Hit a player up, Matt Gourley.

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I like it, I like it.

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Let's see if that works.

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Let's abuse our privileges.

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Yes, let's see.

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Jordan, how about you?

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Dan, I have the rare double Blight Spot.

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Double Blight Spot.

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No, the inverse of Double Blight Spot.

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The Double Blight Spot.

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That's a follow up to two Bright Spots.

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Yeah.

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This is unprecedented.

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First, we're going to go in chronological order.

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If you will recall, Dan, a while back,

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I told you about a pear that I ate.

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Sure.

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It was a delicious pear.

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Oh, I got some pears for you in the other room, by the way.

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Of course, I'm going to enjoy those.

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But my partner's moms both decided

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that we got to do something for this.

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So they ordered me a pear.

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Wait, they realized they had to do something about you?

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They had to do something about this pear thing.

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They were inspired into action.

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So they ordered me a pear from a place that has great pears.

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Sure.

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To the point where I can't eat it.

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It looks too much like the pear.

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It's like a platonic pear.

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Yeah, it's like a platonic pear, where you're like,

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I don't know what to do with this pear.

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I'm going to eat it.

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It's going to be amazing.

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Yeah, of course you're going to eat it.

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You got to.

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And then you'll recall that I said something about how

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my brain was functioning.

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Yeah.

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And Black Dragon Queen Christy sent me

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an incredibly kind card.

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Artistic pear?

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Yeah, well, I wish it was a pear, always.

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All things should be pears.

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But she really touched me.

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And it was very kind of her.

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That is great.

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Double bright spot.

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Hey, things are looking real bright.

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And I actually got to say, I may have another bright spot.

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Oh, no.

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And if you're going with two, I'm going to give another one.

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We're going to do a quadruple bright spot?

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I may.

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And that is that I really got into today's episode.

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You did.

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You know, it's an Easter miracle.

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I found something.

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I was not expecting Alex to be at all kind of like, oh,

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I can talk about this.

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This is interesting.

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So you would say that Alex has risen.

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He's risen indeed.

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He's risen indeed.

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He's risen indeed.

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And we will get down to business on all that.

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But before we do, Jordan, let's take a little moment

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to say thank you to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's not a bad idea at all.

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So first, Scroton the Strong, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Scroton.

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Thank you.

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Next, Melissa Kay, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Melissa.

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Thank you.

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Next, oh, man, I remember when I first

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realized that Missy was short for Melissa.

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It's a weird day.

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Anyway, sorry, Melissa.

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Next, Trek With Tyler, thank you so much.

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You are now policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, TWT.

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Next, Owen but not the Dumb One.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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There are a surprising number of competitions.

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Troyer.

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For Dumb Owen Tea, I was going to say.

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Next, Kathleen Y. Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Kathleen.

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Thank you.

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Next, pretty quick for a Canadian.

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Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much! Pretty quick.

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And we've got a couple of special things going on here over the weekend.

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Alright.

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We had a couple birthdays that I'd like to give a little shoutout to.

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It's our April birthday shoutout that we're gonna do probably three or four more times this one.

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First, Alexander reached out and wanted to wish Iris a happy birthday.

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Oh, a happy birthday, Iris.

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Happy birthday, Iris.

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Yeah, of course.

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Hope you have a good one, or had a good one, I guess,

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because since this is coming out probably after your birthday.

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Don't worry about it. Deal with it, Iris.

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Now, this next one's very special. It goes out to a cat.

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Okay.

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It was a birthday cat.

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Well, then we do birthday cats on command.

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Yes.

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On command!

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Yeah.

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No birthday months for cats.

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That's the loophole.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And this is a cat named Pleiades.

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Oh, well, shit!

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How do you not wish Pleiades the cat a happy birthday?

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I don't know, because the light from Pleiades takes several hundred thousand years to get to us.

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Well, it just got here.

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Oh, okay.

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Happy birthday.

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Nicely done.

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So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over April 1st through 3rd 2021 Blackjack.

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Ah! I never had a chance on that one.

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No, I really sped up.

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You were too good for that one.

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Through the home stretch.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, so this is Thursday and Friday of last week,

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and then Saturday Alex fucked around and went into studio and recorded a special thing.

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Oh, sure, why not?

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And once we get going, you'll understand why I had to cover that Saturday thing.

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No, no, of course, of course.

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But first, here's an out of context drop from today's show.

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The devil ain't cool, man.

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He's not what gives you the hot cheerleaders and the partying and the fun.

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Oh. Hmm.

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Actually, I thought that was the...

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I thought that's what he specifically tried to tempt you with.

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Every depiction in media.

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I was gonna say, he's the one who gets you that stuff.

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God is the one who gets you eternal happiness by forgoing those specific things.

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Yep, that's always been my understanding.

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Every chick tract that I've ever seen.

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Almost entirely like, hey, that hot girl, you gotta avoid her.

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And the fun and the partying.

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It's terrifying.

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Don't do the fun and the partying.

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Jesus hates it.

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Yeah.

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So, my man.

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Yeah.

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I want to preface this really quick.

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Sure.

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I want to set this up.

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All right.

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This April 1st episode, if it was an April Fool's episode, I would admire the hell out of it.

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Because there's a number of things that go on that you could interpret as being like,

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yeah, he's fucking around.

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Sure, but it's not.

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Like this, this could be an April Fool's gag.

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And I've been doing a lot of studying the last few weeks on a particular subject that

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Rob Doob brought to my attention and that the rest of the crew kept basically pestering

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me about.

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And I finally, last night and today, read it.

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And it is the smoking gun of smoking guns of smoking guns.

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This is green eggs and ham.

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And I'm the type of guy that always gets on air.

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And I tell you, next hour, I'm going to cover this big story.

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And then I'll start telling you what the big story is right away.

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Right.

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The tactic and media, as I say, coming up.

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So you keep listening.

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I don't do that.

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I'm bad at my job.

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If you just put out the big news and don't have some fanfare, like a 20th Century Fox

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intro, which is not how it goes.

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A rip off of old British newsreels.

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People don't care.

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And it just becomes part of the background ambient noise.

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And they actually get conditioned to the tyranny.

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You actually become a tool of evil.

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You know, I almost just go off air for a month and just shut info wars down.

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And then if I came back and covered this, we might be able to save the planet.

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I hate you so much.

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You see what I mean?

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April Fools.

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I hate you so much.

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That should have ended with, should I be saying any of this?

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Perhaps not.

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I have the gun, the smoking gun to end all smoking guns and...

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See you in a month, assholes!

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Yeah, I'm gonna disappear for a while.

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This is your fault.

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You don't get this smoking gun.

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So that's an interesting idea for Alex.

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The idea of disappearing like he's Sting going to the rafters.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Not fighting for WCW or NWO.

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If you love something, let it go.

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I do like the idea of Alex coming back with just face paint.

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Crow face paint.

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A brooding Alex Jones.

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I'm Bruce Lee's grandson.

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So he doesn't disappear for a month, but he does do what I would say is the next best thing.

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What have I told you?

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I have the document from John Hopkins where they plan the whole attack,

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plan the SARS attack, planned the Ebola attack, planned the COVID-19 attack,

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and then have a plan through vaccines to brain damage you and give you Alzheimer's

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and sterilize you.

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And then how they're even going to blame the politicians

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and how they even set up President Trump to do it.

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I would be interested in that.

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Imagine having that smoking gun.

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I'm imagining it.

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In your hand.

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Mail it to me.

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Word for word, admitting the whole thing.

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And then you'd ask, why would they write such a thing?

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Well, I know why.

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I can explain it.

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But you know what?

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I'm not going to cover it.

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I'm going to put together graphics and I'm going to put all the different pieces together.

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And I'm going to come in here Saturday and I'm going to tape for one hour at noon.

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Make sure it's all perfect.

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Yeah.

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And then at 2 p.m. central, we should have it ready.

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We will stream it back to back hour after hour until I go live Sunday on Easter at 4 p.m.

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Central Standard Time, as I always do on Sundays.

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What a dick.

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That's amazing.

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I've got smoking gun proof, but I'm not going to talk about it.

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Not until Sunday.

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That's some Dom sub shit.

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I can't handle that.

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I'm not into this type of relationship, dude.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I mean, unfortunately for me, I was like, wow, that is ridiculous.

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You can come on Saturday.

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No!

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That kind of...

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Disagree.

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That kind of presentation is ridiculous.

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If you're listening in the audience, you have to ask yourself, why?

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What kind of real person would do this?

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What possible news organization would be like, we have proof of everything that is going

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on and they're trying to kill everybody.

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We're going to wait two days to reveal it to you.

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You know what?

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And news organizations do wait with information that they're not 100...

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They don't tease it like this, though.

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But they don't go... the New York Times doesn't have like a, hey man, we got some bombshell

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shit.

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We're going to see it in a couple weeks.

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We're working on something that will...

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This will change the game.

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No.

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No, no, no, no.

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Dumb.

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Absolutely not.

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So the document that Alex is talking about is a 2017 scenario exercise called the SPARS

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pandemic 2025 to 2028, a futuristic scenario for public health risk communicators.

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Oh, that sounds like the smoking gun.

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This document is essentially very similar in structure to the Rockefeller one Alex erroneously

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calls Operation Lockstep in that the Johns Hopkins exercise began with the selection

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of two important variables that could dictate what challenges could arise in a possible

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future.

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Is Alex real or is Alex not real?

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In this exercise, the two variables were quote, varying degrees of access to information technology

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and quote, varying levels of fragmentation among social, political, religious, ideological

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and cultural lines.

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Whereas the Rockefeller document explored all four of the possible futures that were

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based on the variables they chose, this document focuses instead on just the one that the preparers

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thought would present the most challenge in terms of medical communication.

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Okay, so there are more positive simulations that could happen.

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With those two variables creating a matrix of four scenarios.

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But this paper is entirely about the worst possible scenario.

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Maybe not the worst possible scenario because they don't lay out what the other ones are,

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so I don't really know what they are.

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It's a real bummer of a scenario.

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Well, it's a scenario that is for an exercise for medical communicators.

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Okay.

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And so the one that would raise the most challenges, or they decided would raise the most interesting

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challenges.

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Perfect.

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Is the one that they used.

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Excellent.

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Sorry, I just wanted a clarification.

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That's an important clarification.

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This was the possible future that they called the echo chamber, which represented a scenario

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where there was widespread access to information technology and quote, isolated and highly

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fragmented communities.

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Reading over this document, it's really fascinating how there are a number of similarities between

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the real world and the scenario that was laid out in this exercise.

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The real world novel coronavirus was called SARS-CoV-2, whereas the scenario illness is

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called SPARS-CoV.

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Ultimately, these similarities are all things that make sense, given that the possible future

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was laid out by public health experts who would be trying to make as realistic a scenario

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as possible so participants could best explore the communication challenges that could arise

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in the event of a public health emergency in a world where everyone was online and large

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segments of the population lived in a slightly different reality from each other.

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Yeah.

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One of the problems that we keep running into with these scenarios, like this document and

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the Rockefeller one, are that they're well written and engaging.

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They contain a ton of details that flesh out the world they're trying to depict and as

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such seem like more of a prediction than they intend to be.

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This Johns Hopkins scenario relies on a template laid out by J. Ogilvy and Peter Schwartz in

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their 2004 paper titled Plotting Your Scenarios, published by the Global Business Network.

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In this paper, Ogilvy and Schwartz try to help businesses and organizations understand

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how to best structure a scenario-based exercise in order to maximize its impact in terms of

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the participants being able to learn about how to deal with new circumstances and manage

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change.

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Okay, so these guys are dungeon masters.

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Yes.

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Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

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Yeah, that's what these guys do.

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The strategy of using a scenario matrix is explained in this paper.

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This is what both the Johns Hopkins and Rockefeller exercises used, where the planners come up

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with a big list of key factors they think could affect the possible futures they want

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to explore, then that list is whittled down to two central factors.

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These factors are plotted on a matrix, which could go in one of two directions, and that

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creates four distinct combinations of factors, each representing a scenario that can be explored.

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Right.

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An example that's given in this paper is about looking at possible futures for education,

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where they choose to use hierarchy versus participation and inclusion versus exclusion

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as the two main axes that were the most relevant to their exploration.

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This created four scenarios, hierarchical and inclusive,

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hierarchical and exclusive, participatory and inclusive, and participatory and exclusive.

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Each of these possible realities looks vastly different from the others, so it's not too

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hard to jump from there to scenario building and creating evocative narratives that characterize

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each of these so participants can more easily relate to the challenges that each possible

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future would present.

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Totally, of course.

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That's exactly what Ogilvy and Schwartz discuss in their introduction to this paper.

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To be an effective planning tool, scenarios should be written in the form of absorbing,

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convincing stories that describe a broad range of alternative futures relevant to an organization's

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success.

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Thoughtfully constructed, believable plots help managers to become deeply involved in

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the scenarios and perhaps gain new understanding of how their organization can manage change

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as a result of this experience.

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The more involved managers get with scenarios, the more likely it becomes that they will

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recognize their important but less obvious implications.

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Moreover, scenarios with engrossing plots can be swiftly communicated throughout the

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organization and will be more easily remembered by decision makers at all levels of management.

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And if the CDC rolls an 18 or higher, then we defeat the pandemic.

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Saving throw.

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That makes perfect sense to me.

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Ogilvy and Schwartz are business consultants, and this technique, using scenario-based exercises,

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is a very common one among organizations that want to explore how prepared they are to face

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potential challenges that could come up expectedly or unexpectedly.

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Yeah, war games.

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Yeah, these scenarios work better if they're written as compelling and engrossing stories,

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and as we've learned, Alex has an incredibly hard time differentiating between reality

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and fiction.

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Yeah.

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To compound the problem, these guys, they recommend that people, quote, invent catchy

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names for the scenarios, saying, quote, when your managers feel the hot breath of crisis,

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they should be able to recall the appropriate scenario by name.

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Dan, if you recall, I have suggested to scientists that they need to rename things better.

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Now, here's the problem, though.

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I have also suggested they go outside of scientists for naming.

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Yeah, but then Alex also talks about how, like, THX 1138 or whatever is-

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Sure.

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That's not a catchy name.

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But I mean, we could come up with some catchier names.

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What's this one called?

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Well, this one is called the echo chamber.

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The echo chamber.

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Yeah.

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Okay, I'll call it the shitty room.

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Okay, all right.

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You won't forget the shitty room.

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No, that's true.

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That might work.

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That might work.

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So this technique, though, creating these names that you remember, it's a good strategy

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for scenario-based planning, but the flip side, like you have pointed out, is that these

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names could be exploited very easily.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Lockstep is a perfect example of that.

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It's just a catchy scenario name, which is apparently so catchy that Alex has built a

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gigantic conspiracy around it.

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See?

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Now I rename it Bummertown.

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One, you remember it.

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Two, nobody's like, oh, they're using Bummertown to defeat the globalists.

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It's a classic Bummertown.

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Yeah, this is the Bummertown scenario all over again.

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Anyway, the bottom line here is that this document is none of the things Alex claims

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that it is, and it doesn't prove any of the shit he's pretending it does.

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Also, it's 89 pages long, so there's no way, I believe, for a second that Alex has read

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it.

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Absolutely not.

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He talks a little bit more about it here, although he said he was going to wait until

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Saturday.

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Of course he did.

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He actually doesn't talk much about it, because I think he actually hasn't read it at all.

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Right, right, right, right.

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He's just got no clue.

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No.

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No, okay.

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Basically, anyone taking these vaccines, they're all designed to the same thing, is going to

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have neurological disorders within one year, most of the people taking the vaccine will

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be dead within 10, and this John Hopkins says it all right here.

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That is not in the Hopkins report.

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That would be a very strange thing for Johns Hopkins to release.

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Yeah, the scenario is written from the standpoint of someone who lives in 2030, so there's not

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even 10 years depicted in the exercise since the outbreak begins in 2025.

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Sure, sure.

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Alex is just making shit up because he knows no one's going to read it, and he's got all

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the elements there that he needs to lie about.

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It's 89 pages, it's got the name.

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Yeah, you're golden.

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Yep.

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Just riff.

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So every now and again I like to point out when Alex makes it abundantly clear that he

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thinks that he's fighting literal demons, because everyone needs to keep that in the

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front of their mind.

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It's really nice to recall that this man thinks he's fighting the devil.

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Right.

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You know who authored this report?

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It wasn't the Center for Public Health at Johns Hopkins.

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It was Lucifer the Morningstar.

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You bet.

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Yeah, okay.

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He's a master of public health, actually.

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Got a degree.

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Honorary.

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Well.

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Obviously this is not a human intelligence running this, and I just go back to that over

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and over again.

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I tell top generals that, top former head of intelligence agencies, senators, you name

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it, at secret meetings, and they nod their head and agree with me, because everybody

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knows.

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Everybody knows.

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I'm talking about fake low res of flying saucers here.

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I'm talking about interdimensional entities.

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Sure.

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Hell-bent to destroy us.

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Naturally.

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And they are influencing humans on Earth to do this, and this is not a human plan.

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It is a satanic fallen angel operation.

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Sounds right.

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I honestly might have more respect for low res pictures of UFOs.

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I'd definitely rather talk to that guy than Alex.

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Yeah, I would say that I am more convinced by the Loch Ness Monster photo than I am by

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why interdimensional beings are controlling the plan that's not even happening.

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Yeah, yep.

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Yeah.

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So Alex lies a little bit more about this Hopkins report, which again, he's not going

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to talk about until Saturday.

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No, of course not.

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Hell on Earth is going to be released.

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The total collapse is being engineered.

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I mean, giant John Hopkins plans that are operational.

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John Hopkins runs the whole thing.

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Hee hee hee, I'm John Hopkins.

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All spelled out says here, just like I surmise by 2030, you did not surmise the population

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is dead or living dead.

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Totally brain damage, totally gone.

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And then we're going to have to, we won't be able to take care of people.

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Then the good people to survive will have to join the globalist in exterminating who's

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left because things will be so out of control.

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Whoa.

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Alex is making that up.

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Yeah, no.

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Big no.

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Big pass on that one.

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Yeah, so here's kind of the passage that I guess most closely resembles what he's talking

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about.

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Okay.

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Quote, while the federal government appeared to have appropriately addressed concerns about

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the acute side effects of Corovax.

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That's the vaccine that comes up.

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The vaccine for scars.

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SPARS.

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Scars Guard Cove 9.

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The long-term chronic effects of the vaccine were still largely unknown.

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Nearing the end of 2027, reports of new neurological symptoms began to emerge.

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After showing no adverse side effects for nearly a year, several vaccine recipients

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slowly began to experience symptoms such as blurry vision, headaches, and numbness in

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their extremities.

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Due to the small number of these cases, the significance of their association with Corovax

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was never determined.

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As of this writing in 2030, longitudinal studies initiated by the NIH at the beginning of the

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vaccination program have not reached the next round of data collection.

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So formal analysis of these symptoms has not yet been conducted.

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Furthermore, these cases arose from the initial cohort of vaccine recipients.

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Those in high-risk populations, including those with underlying health conditions, making

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it increasingly difficult to determine the extent to which these symptoms are associated

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with vaccination.

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Yeah.

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See, that's good dungeon mastering, but I would expect Alex would have added a little

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more fire.

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They're all dead.

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We're all dead.

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Yeah.

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Just like, they're coming.

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Those of us who haven't been vaccinated will be forced to kill the rest of everybody.

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Totally.

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You need a little bit of flair there.

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That's all I'm saying.

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The imagined scenario involves a small number of possible unforeseen side effects from a

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vaccine that's just deployed to fight the pandemic.

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And Alex has turned that into the clip that we just heard.

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Sure.

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He's claiming that John Hopkins is saying that by 2030, everyone will be dead or walking

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dead.

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That's a leap.

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It's a complete fiction that he's just created out of thin air from his imagination.

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The story that he's telling literally has no connection to the primary source that he's

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pretending to cover.

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That sounds correct.

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But I can't wait until we get to Saturday.

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They had days, and it's one of the most incompetent displays that I've ever seen.

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There's no way that you heard, I'm going to get to this Saturday, and weren't like,

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well, we're going to handle this Saturday.

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That's when I'm like, all right.

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All right, we'll see you then.

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All right, I'm going to stretch.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You crack your knuckles a little bit, you do a little, all right, here we go.

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And I got to say, I don't know who he's got for this Saturday show.

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It's him, Rob Dew, and some dude named Mike.

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I don't know who this Mike dude is, but he is a weirdo.

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Okay, all right.

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He is a sleepy weirdo.

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All right, we're going to bring Mike into this.

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Holy shit.

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Okay.

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Not to be believed, this guy.

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Okay, all right.

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So anyway, Alex is fighting Satan.

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Sure.

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And maybe he just wants to quit.

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That's fair.

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Satan's got infinite resources and is it a million years old or whatever?

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I don't think Satan's interested in an information war.

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That's probably true.

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Yeah, it's time for the information war against heaven.

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Did you know what you missed?

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In the 40 days and 40 nights that Satan tempted Jesus in the desert, most of what they talked

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about was Alex.

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Well, when...

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Dude, do you know what we're going to eventually have to deal with?

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You have no fucking clue.

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When Satan got all the angels turned against God or whatever, it really was information

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warfare.

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Yeah, it was. I mean, it's like you had to first convince them that their freedom was

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stolen by an infinite creator.

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It was mostly about vaccines.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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Anyway, Alex is fighting against Satan.

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And we have now entered the operational shutdown of the planet as we know it.

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And the decision has been made to overwrite every genetic system on the earth.

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And the earth is to be completely sacrificed in the attempt to become God.

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Sure.

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In fact, their main mission, they say, is to destroy the earth.

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And then only out of that metamorphosis can this new creature emerge.

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That's what they've been told.

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It is their universal code.

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It is their ethos.

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It is their religion.

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And they've signed on to it.

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And they've rebelled against God that made us.

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And so I really don't even know if I can keep doing the show.

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And I'm not kidding.

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I think I'm going to have to just hand this over to somebody else.

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This stuff's too big to even talk about on there.

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If people don't know about this now, they're not going to figure it out.

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I just need to get ready with my family.

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I can't believe this, man.

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Almighty, it's so horrible.

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That didn't seem sincere.

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Oh, I had a dream about the space baby from 2001 Space Odyssey.

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And I just don't know if I can do this anymore.

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It's just too big for me.

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Oh, no.

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So terrible.

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The time baby is out there.

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It's going to grow into a thing.

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This is just big stuff, though, man.

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Sure.

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The globalists are trying to give birth to Satan to walk on the Earth.

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Right.

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This is too big.

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No, I mean, that's a real bummer.

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I kind of understand wanting to go to the woods.

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But then again, in the best of times, I want to go to the woods.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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Maybe I'm not the person to talk about this.

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I don't know.

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Wouldn't the woods be a bad place?

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Because Satan's all about the fire.

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He does love fire.

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Yeah.

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You want more like a blacktop.

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Sure.

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Go move into a parking lot.

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Desert.

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Yeah.

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A desert would be great.

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And then whenever he burns it all, you've got glass to make really great windows.

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This could be a good plan.

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This is a plan.

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Yeah.

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We're going to make it through this apocalypse, Dan.

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So anyway, back to lying about this document that he's not going to cover until Saturday.

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Okay.

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And they all know it's bull.

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It's just every part of it is a lie.

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And you're wearing a death shroud.

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You're wearing this diaper.

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And they even admit in the John Hopkins report that it gets an added bonus.

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The bacterial pneumonia of the mask wearers is going to really increase their death toll.

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The word mask does not appear once in the John Hopkins document.

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That sounds right.

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Yeah.

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In the scenario, bacterial pneumonia is a condition that appears to be connected to the

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invented virus spars.

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But Alex is completely making up everything he's saying here about this document.

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Wow.

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Pretty great.

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That's lovely.

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I do like whenever you can toss in something that isn't even mentioned obliquely.

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That's always good stuff.

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Pretty solid.

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Yeah.

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So as someone who's fighting the devil, Alex has covered himself in the armor of God.

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Sure.

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And that means talking about the Bible.

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Naturally.

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And...

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Gotta get into it.

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And it's also Good Friday, right?

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No, this is Thursday.

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Oh, okay.

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It's Maundy Thursday.

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Apologies.

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Right?

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Isn't that what it is?

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No idea.

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I can't remember what the...

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There's Good Friday.

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Right.

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Palm Thursday.

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Palm Saturday.

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Palm Wednesday.

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Ash Wednesday.

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Ash Wednesday.

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But that's way different.

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Don't worry about it.

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We're doing great.

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I don't know the week.

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We're doing great.

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I'd forgotten.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, Alex also has forgotten some things about revelation.

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If you believe the Bible, no flesh would be spared unless God intervened.

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No flesh would have been spared.

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None.

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Sure.

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And it says the rich men will sit under the mountains in their

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fortresses under the mountains, beating themselves in the head.

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So angry that they serve Satan and begging God to forgive them.

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So like Trump, right?

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And at that point they've come into the ultimate sin.

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There will be no Holy Ghost.

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There will be no forgiveness.

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You have now chosen your side.

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Yeah, like Trump, right?

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Wow.

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Wow. That's just a chance.

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Weird.

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Wow.

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That's an intense thought, but it's also a delicious thought.

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So weird.

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So if the Bible did, in fact, say that rich people would live

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under mountains, that kind of does sound like Alex's whole

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thing about the elite globalists having underground bases.

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Isn't he rich?

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Yeah.

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Unfortunately, Alex is leaving out a very critical part of

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the verse that he's poorly referencing.

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This is from Revelation 6, verse 15.

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Quote, then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals,

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the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free,

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hidden caves and among the rocks of the mountains.

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Oh, so everybody hidden caves.

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It wasn't just the rich people.

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No, it was a whole plethora of folk.

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Yep.

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Gotcha.

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It's pretty much everyone trying to hide from the opening

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of the sixth seal.

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So it's pretty much everyone.

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Yep.

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Gotcha.

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Anyway, much like Alex just writes fan fiction about the

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nefarious documents he covers as news, he does the same thing

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with the Bible, even like religious texts.

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Everything is just a prop for him to use.

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It really seems like that should be way more important.

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You know, you want to know it word by word, really.

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Yeah.

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If you were fighting the devil, that is.

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It's even like that would be your best weapon against the

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devil is knowledge of the Bible.

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Sure.

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I've seen that in various Chuck Norris movies.

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Yes, indeed we have.

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So Roger is coming in again.

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Great, great.

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Which we saw on our last episode.

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Yeah, it's time to pray.

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It's interesting, though.

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I got really weirded out by this.

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Roger Stone has talked a lot about trying to draft Flynn to

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get him ready to lead a national movement to run for

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president or to support Trump for running for president.

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But regardless, instead of overthinking it, I agree with

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him, Flynn's got to launch it now.

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And I'm going to leave it at that.

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And obviously I've been talking to Flynn, and I just need

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to we need to draft him here on this show.

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We can't wait for Trump.

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We can't wait for DeSantis.

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We need General Flynn, who is a good man and a patriot

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understand what's going on.

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We need him to do this.

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So Roger is at a dental appointment.

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He's a little bit late.

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He'll be popping in sometime next hour.

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So on our last episode, the conversation was about trying

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to draft Flynn or Gates.

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Sure, sure, Gates might not be around for much longer.

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We've gone a day, and Alex is just pretending that that

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wasn't the whole conversation that they had.

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Never happened.

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No, we never defended that guy.

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He's a real criminal.

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Now, I mean, not to his credit, but Roger is still like,

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he's innocent.

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He's being set up.

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Yeah, that sounds like a good Roger move.

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Boy, has it deflated.

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It is not like they spent over an hour on the last episode

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incriminating themselves in order to defend the Gates.

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Look, he just likes to party.

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Hey, guys, we had a post debriefing on this one,

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and we decided you guys should not commit any crimes

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in the defense of someone.

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Hey, everybody out there in the Infowars land, shit got bad.

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Shit kept going the way it looked like it was going to go.

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And we should have seen it coming.

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Yep, yep.

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I can walk away from this at this point.

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Not hard.

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Gunna.

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Gunna bye.

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Yeah, so I listened to this next clip,

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and I kind of got the sense that, like, Roger is fucking

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with Alex a little bit, which I can kind of enjoy.

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Well, he just got back.

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Roger Stone has been trying for a week to send me a report,

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a secret report.

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It's not a classified report.

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It's a secret report.

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My email doesn't work.

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He can't send it to any of our emails.

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They're in his email blocking it.

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They're in our email.

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Oh, no, it really is.

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It's a total take over, folks.

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The full weight of the government works against the country

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to implode it and destroy it.

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All right.

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They're in his email.

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My email doesn't work.

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Roger can't send me emails, but he can't send me this secret

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document.

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I don't know why Outlook isn't working right now.

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Yeah, I think Occam's Razor tells me Roger is fucking

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with Alex.

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Yeah, that would make sense.

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So we get another headline here, and this is important.

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This is really important stuff.

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Breaking.

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That's right.

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The Alex Jones show there's a war on for your mind.

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High school to re-educate students.

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That's a quote who refused to wear COVID mask in Clearwater,

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Florida.

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Even a conservative city, conservative state.

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They're the leftist are teaching their critical radical

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race theory.

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Teaching America sucks.

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The high school in Clearwater, Florida, says it will re-educate

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students who do not wear a mask when required.

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Naturally.

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This is a story about Clearwater High School.

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And honestly, if I were involved, I would have just told

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them to use a different word than re-educate.

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That seems very easy.

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Yeah, it says, quote, students who do not wear a mask when

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it is required or refuse to do so should first be re-educated

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on the importance of wearing a mask.

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If after the re-education occurs, they do not comply, the

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student administrator should be contacted.

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The importance of wearing a mask should be reinforced.

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Yes.

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If not done so, if behavior has not changed, and then this

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whole thing goes away.

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The word re-education is something that means a lot of

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different things in different contexts.

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For Alex, the word means commies taking kids to camps and

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doing that thing from Clockwork Orange.

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Naturally.

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In this context, it's really clear that what they mean is

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that if a student is refusing to wear a mask, they should be

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given a chance to better understand why a mask is important

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in a schoolroom setting before any kind of disciplinary

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action is even considered.

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Right.

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This is essentially what it's basically saying like the

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kids get a warning.

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The right wing blogs that are covering the story use this

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quote, but seem to leave off what comes immediately after

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it in the school's plan for the new academic year.

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Oh, that's harder.

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Quote, not wearing a mask when it's required is not a

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disciplinary matter, but rather a health and safety concern.

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Administrators will contact the parent or guardian for

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support.

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If the refusal continues, the principal must contact the

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area superintendent to discuss options, which include

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administrative placement into one of the other learning

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options.

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This placement is a non-disciplinary placement and

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is based on the health and safety needs of all students

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and staff.

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So this same document literally says that students who refuse

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to wear masks won't get in trouble, and if it's something

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that can't be resolved, then accommodation will be made to

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allow them to continue to go to class remotely.

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That seems like going above and beyond to cater to people

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who refuse to wear masks in public gathering settings.

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Yeah.

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But of course they use the word reeducation, so this is

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somehow about critical race theory or something.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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It's ridiculous.

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Their plan is really well thought out and kind of

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considerate and perhaps overly sensitive, you know, but it

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is better than my plan of if a kid decides not to wear a

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mask, you go to his house and scream in his parents face

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until they leave you alone forever.

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It's tougher to codify into a rule.

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It's better that I wouldn't use the word reeducation.

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Give less meat for Alex.

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There you go.

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Yeah.

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So Roger comes on after the dentist and, you know, like I

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said, they do not talk about Matt Gaetz much.

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Sure.

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It's much different than the day before.

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Unsurprising.

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The entire interview is about how Alex wants General Flynn

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to announce that he's running for president and Roger trying

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to explain to Alex that there's a game they need to play.

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Roger is saying that if they're going to do this, the first

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thing they need to do is gather massive amounts of data about

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the people who would support Flynn, and then they need to

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somehow get around all the social media bans that all these

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shitheads like Alex have that limit their reach.

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Right.

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It's a farce of an interview, and it seems pretty clear to

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me that there's going to be some attempt coming down the

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line to try to replace Trump with Flynn as the figurehead

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of the Infowars idol cult.

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Roger is trying to subtly implant the idea that Flynn is

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like Eisenhower.

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He's a military hero who the people need to coerce into

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running for office because it's his duty to the country.

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See, Roger seems to realize that the only thing that's going

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to work for someone like Flynn is a fully realized storyline

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to push as a campaign, and his character works with that

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kind of archetype, regardless of how disconnected from

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reality it is.

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It's the same thing they did with Trump, pretending that he

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was a successful businessman who had never had any interest

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in politics who won the presidency on his first try.

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When compared to reality, that's bullshit, but it's a

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compelling storyline for the base to enjoy.

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Flynn being a reluctant candidate would have a similar,

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you know, complete bullshit narrative thing if it were to

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get off the ground, but could be effective.

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I am wilded out by the idea that anyone would want anyone

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who had any command during the Iraq war.

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Oh, yeah, that's weird.

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Also somebody who pledged allegiance to QAnon.

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Yeah, shouldn't that be immediately disqualifying?

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Like, I don't even care what your politics are.

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You were involved with commanding in the Iraq war.

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You are already a failure before you even began.

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Yeah, you should maybe take a seat.

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You should go away.

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So Roger wants to build up to this subtly and softly,

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whereas Alex is a little bit less patient.

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They're just going back and forth about how Flynn needs to

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go on the attack immediately.

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That's what Alex is saying.

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And then Roger comes back with, who knows what will happen?

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And then finally, Alex has just had enough.

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Here's the deal.

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He's got to do it.

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He knows it.

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And the amount of money he can raise is staggering.

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And so he's going to run for president.

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I'm drafting him right now.

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And so are the American people.

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And as he does these quiet events to 10,000 people here,

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10,000 people there, 1,000 there, everybody that goes to

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these things he quietly has that are packed out need to

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tell him you're doing it.

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And I'm not being presumptive here.

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Listen, they want you and I in jail because they know we

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helped light the fire with Trump.

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They know that we're not afraid and they know we've got

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lightning in a bottle and they know that lightning does

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strike the same place repeatedly.

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That's how Will and Zeitgeist and.

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Wait, what?

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Yes.

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So obviously I could sell off of the sunset right now.

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The globalists are ready to buy me off like that.

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I could snap my fingers, $100 million, private jets,

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everything, but I'm not selling humanity out.

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So and he's not either.

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He just keeps overthinking it.

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He needs to listen to you.

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He needs to announce soon.

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Alex is sick of the bullshit and he wants a hero figure to

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get behind and it's the best thing out right now out of

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options for God King.

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It turns out without his inimitable platform, Trump's shit

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talking doesn't work.

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Yeah, I am not really all that good as the center focus.

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Exactly.

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Me, Alex Jones, not good as center focus.

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Need to be someone else's hype man.

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Totally.

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That person I'm hyping is absent now.

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Not gone.

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This does not work.

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I'm really flailing.

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I need a dad.

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You are 100% correct.

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Yeah, that is exactly what's going on.

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So this clip means nothing, but I just thought it was kind

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of interesting to hear Alex describe the plot of Romeo and

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Juliet.

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I think he gets some of the beats right.

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Okay.

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I'm really, really interested in this.

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I'm going to be honest.

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This is the first time in a while I've been like, I'm going

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to be on the edge of my seat.

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Alex's literature recap.

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Like reading a William Shakespeare play that you've already

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read before.

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You know, you turn the page and Romeo and Juliet meet, tell

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me you love and their parents are mean to them.

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They have their problems.

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And by the end, they commit suicide.

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You know, you know the play.

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All right.

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Well, I mean, he's not wrong.

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He's not wrong.

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It didn't exist as a venerated play for hundreds of years

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because of that plot synopsis.

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I mean, look, look, look, look, the skeleton is there.

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There's a thing.

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Their parents are mad at him.

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They kill themselves.

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And it's a great play.

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The parents are mean.

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You've read it before.

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It does not sound like you've read it before, sir.

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Oh, God.

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It sounds like you saw half of the Leonardo DiCaprio version

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and then woke up at the end.

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You're one of these literature major types, though.

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Like from where?

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I'm from the streets, right?

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Sure.

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Sure.

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No, no, no.

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I'm with you.

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For someone like me, I hear that.

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And I'm like, yeah, that is what Romeo and Juliet is about.

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Because it is.

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Yeah, but even if you're watching West Side Story,

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there's more to it than that.

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I disagree.

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OK, well, that's fair.

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That's fair.

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You could cut out a lot of those songs.

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A classic tale of people meeting,

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their families being mean, and then they kill themselves.

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I mean, you know, it does have an arc.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Alex cares about the theater, cares

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about classic literature.

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But what he doesn't care about, money.

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OK.

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And you know why I feel so upset?

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I've never cared about money.

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And back when I could have made a ton of money

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before we were censored, I would make enough money

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to fund the operation.

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And if I had extra money, I'd hire more people

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and expand because my mission was to beat the New World Order.

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I never cared about money.

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But now I can tell you going into the future,

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you'll be able to stave this off a little bit longer,

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but not longer if you do have money.

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I mean, this is a world civilization ending event

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coming up, and it's all right there.

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I mean, man, they are talking about everyone vaccinated

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is going to have Alzheimer's, including children,

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and society is going to collapse and they're

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going to have to have robots clean us all up

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off the streets.

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And I mean, I knew this was all coming.

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I already laid it out.

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But my God, this is scarier than my film Endgame.

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And they were going to be like, oh, well,

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this is scarier than my film Endgame, and they wrote

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the damn thing.

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Oh, God.

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Do they get royalties for that?

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I don't even know what to do at this point.

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Just please save us, God.

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God's like, yeah, well, stop killing all those babies.

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Weird God.

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Weird God.

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So just a quick fact check.

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There's literally nothing in the Johns Hopkins report

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about anything close to what Alex is making up here.

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The robots cleaning up dead body stuff is just from Soylent

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Green, and the word Alzheimer's doesn't even appear

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in the document.

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Now that makes perfect sense.

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The Johns Hopkins document is about public health

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communication challenges that could come up in the event

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of a disease outbreak.

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It's comically stupid for Alex to pretend there's

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a chapter on how everyone's going to be dead and robots

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will clean up our corpses.

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It'd be a really weird flourish for them to just be like,

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oh, and also the vaccine causes Alzheimer's even in children.

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Like, that's a clause.

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Also, Alex loves money.

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Yeah, so much.

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He should be swimming in a Scrooge McDuck style.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Also, at the end of the April 1st show, Alex interviews

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James O'Keefe about some footage he apparently got of

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immigrants living in poor conditions.

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This falls under the heading of a subject I care about,

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and it's a political issue that means quite a bit.

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It's something that people should be paying attention to,

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but I do not trust that the person delivering this message

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is acting in good faith.

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Oh, no.

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And I don't care.

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No.

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I've reserved the right to ignore anything James O'Keefe

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does, so fuck him.

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Let's move on to April 2nd.

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Yeah, 100% fuck James O'Keefe.

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I could have seen that being an April Fools episode, though.

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The way Alex is like, I'm not covering this document until

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Saturday.

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Then he lies a bit about it.

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A little touch and go on it.

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James O'Keefe's existence is a joke.

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Has Roger on, and Alex sort of pretends that the conversation

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didn't involve Matt Gaetz the day prior.

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Sure, sure.

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It's very weird.

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Never thought of Matt Gaetz before, honestly.

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So we get to the second, and the tone is completely changed.

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Things are totally different.

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Look at these headlines on Infowars.com.

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Biden infrastructure bill includes $20 billion

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to destroy highways for being racist.

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Now, if you're not aware of this, I'm not joking.

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Here's some of the headlines.

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Here's out of the News Gazette.

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Biden administration may target racist highways.

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That was December.

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A woman called for highway removal in a black neighborhood.

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Oh, my God.

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One person calls for a statue to come down.

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One person calls for a cross to come down.

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One person calls for a highway to come down.

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The White House singled it out in its infrastructure plan

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as racist, and they're announcing the big, giant highway

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that brings all the jobs to the neighborhood,

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and people can get around the town will be destroyed.

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I mean, I shouldn't laugh at this.

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This is so evil, ladies and gentlemen.

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We covered this back in the endgame coverage,

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so I don't want to dwell too much on the subject,

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but in case Alex is listening,

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the history of the placement of highways is incredibly racist.

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The fact that he's laughing at the idea and mocking it

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really only reveals that he has no idea

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about the history of that subject.

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Totally.

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No one's calling for all highways to be gone,

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so there can't be business or travel anywhere.

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The conversation is about how the ways

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that highways have been constructed in the past

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often has been done with absolutely no regard

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for minority communities and often to their detriment.

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There's tons of primary sources Alex could read up on

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if he's interested in the devastating impact

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that practices like redlining had on communities of color

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in this country in terms of social impacts

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and the destruction of economic power over generations.

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The history of redlining in Chicago is so fucked.

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Yeah, Alex is a stupid, stupid bigot

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who doesn't actually care about reporting accurate information

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or depicting reality to his audience.

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He's just interested in protecting the notions of whiteness.

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And I am demanding that Joe Biden destroy

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all of Illinois's portion of Route 66.

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I want it all gone.

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You don't want to get kicks anymore?

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I want it all gone.

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No more historic Route 66.

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I want all the signs taken down.

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I want the asphalt dug up.

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I have no skin in this game, so I'll support you on this.

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Historic mote 66 is what I want.

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Fill it with water.

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Fill it with water and crocodiles.

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I don't want to see that part of the state anymore.

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Does the Dan Ryan survive?

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Well, why not?

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Okay.

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So, tyranny.

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You heard of it.

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I am familiar.

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It's speeding up and has been speeding up over time.

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That doesn't sound 100% wrong.

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And we're there.

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It's fucking tyranny, man.

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This is what they like to do.

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And they're doing it to us in an act of raw power and domination.

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And we sit here with our open free society model

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in a daze as it moves so quickly.

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Ten years ago, we were going five miles an hour.

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Five years ago, we were going 50 miles an hour.

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Ooh, that's faster.

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Three years ago, we were going 100 miles an hour.

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Whoa.

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Honestly, though, if you think about the time in between these speeds,

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that is a very slow acceleration.

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Yeah, it's not quite parabolic, is it?

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Two years ago, we were going 200 miles an hour.

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A year ago, we were going 500 miles an hour.

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And now we're going 10,000 miles an hour down the rattle.

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That's a big job.

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That was parabolic.

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And we're going to go a million miles an hour.

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And two million miles an hour.

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That's quick.

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And a billion miles an hour.

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Right into hell, ladies and gentlemen.

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That's how tyranny works.

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It builds up.

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It gets its confidence going.

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People submit.

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And like dominoes, boom, kills everybody.

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OK.

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And John Hopkins, I'll cover it tomorrow, has got it all laid out,

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how the collapse is going to work, how there are going to be so many brain

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damaged people from these vaccines that society will shut down.

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Naturally.

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We're just going to have big mass reclamation centers

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right out of Soylent Green where we're just killing people around the clock.

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Young people, old people, you just sign the paperwork,

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roll your son in, your daughter in, your mama, your daddy.

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20 years old, 30 years old, 60 years old.

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Because they could have just given them something that killed them right away.

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That'd be too obvious you'd fight back or something kills you on the road.

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But instantly when you finally die, they want it to be something that wipes you out.

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They want it to be something that weighs on everyone.

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They want the sorrow and the pain and the breakdown and have the big medical system

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suck everything out of you, squeezing you dry before they blast you out of the dust.

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None of that is in the document.

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Yeah.

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I like how he describes something from Soylent Green

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and then says that it's in the document like in Soylent Green.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's real convenient.

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Yeah.

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It is really helpful for movies to tell you what is in the document you're talking about.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I could describe any movie and then just claim that it's what a document says

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and be like, it's like The Matrix.

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Sure.

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It doesn't matter.

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Oh man.

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You're not doing anything.

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Dude, the Rockefeller report on 13 going on 30 and body swap issues.

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Holy shit.

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Insane.

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Yeah, that's insane.

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We're all going to swap with our parents.

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I read that document out of the Aspen Institute about body swapping.

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No, we're going to learn important lessons about walking in each other's shoes.

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It's actually going to be great.

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Right.

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But the people who don't learn those lessons, it's going to create a community of-

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Oh no, we're going to be robots in the streets cleaning them up.

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Displaced within other people.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, it'd be terrible.

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Terrifying.

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Illegal immigration inside a body.

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Ooh, that's a-

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We're going to have to have a lot of new regulations.

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Oh, it's going to be an issue.

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And the Aspen Institute is working on that and I appreciate it.

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I think it's good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I've been saying that Alex isn't really supporting Gates as much.

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Right.

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And that is mostly because it was aggressive at the end of March.

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Those last episodes in March, it was over the top.

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I fucked underage women.

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What?

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I didn't mean to say that in defense of Matt Gaetz.

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I meant to say it's okay if you fuck...

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Nope, that's not good either.

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Oh boy.

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Wait, you're telling me he dated a 17-year-old three years ago?

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What's the big deal?

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Yeah, she's...

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Yeah, it's fine.

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So, but in total fairness, Roger was still defending him.

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And Alex on the April 2nd episode does sort of support him.

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But you can sense a lack of enthusiasm.

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A little reticence.

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A little bit just like...

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But Matt Gaetz with no proof why he's got to be removed.

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While they're saying he might have given a 22-year-old girl $1,000 one time.

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And maybe she flew on a commercial flight with him.

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So that's sex trafficking.

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Of course, he's not on the Alita Express flying to a Caribbean island.

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And now we're learning it's not a 17-year-old girl, but it's okay.

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Because Tim Cook runs Death Tamps.

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What?

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They're the moral media.

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They're gonna get that Matt Gaetz.

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Matt Gaetz did something real.

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I'd throw him under the bus just like that.

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But that's not what happened here.

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I've also gotten to experience them doing it to me.

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But of course, I said, go ahead, publish all your lies.

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And of course, they don't.

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Still needing to bring himself into it.

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I know.

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Unnecessary.

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Very strange.

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I want...

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Very strange.

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If he says something like, oh, if it's real, I'll throw him under the bus.

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I want a countdown clock to appear right over his head.

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Sure.

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You know?

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Just like Ted.

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But you can sense the different tone.

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Like, that's very different than he was before.

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This is the dismount.

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So anyway, Alex goes to calls, and he gets this one caller.

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And this is sort of...

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The call wasn't interesting, but he said something that I wanted to play as like,

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this is the type of person who believes in Alex's shit.

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Sure.

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When you think about the UN, the UN was created because of the Club of Rome, basically,

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to give the Antichrist his power.

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That's what the UN was created.

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I'm sorry, what now?

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So the Club of Rome was founded in 1968, and the UN began in 1945.

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Yeah, because they knew the Club of Rome was coming.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I mean, do you understand, like, there's just this...

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This is the sort of thinking.

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No, no, no, no, Dan.

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You're not understanding.

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I believe the Club of Rome he's speaking about...

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Oh, boy.

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Is Romulus and Remus.

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And the wolves.

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Exactly.

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I mean, like, okay, so the Antichrist needs to get its power.

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Sure.

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And that's why they made the UN.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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13 years later, the Club of Rome is founded.

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It just doesn't make any sense.

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Anyway, Alex in between calls rambles a little bit about how,

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oh, God, wouldn't it be so great if the US and Russia became best friends?

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Oh, that would be great.

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And anybody that studies geopolitics knows that the US links up with Russia geopolitically.

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It's over those two countries could dominate the world for good and a new golden age.

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But alas, we know that's not how it works, right?

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Anybody can read Revelation and the Dragon.

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The whole war that happens, we all know it unfolds.

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What?

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So now the holy war that unfolds is between the United States and Russia.

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I guess so.

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But also, this is a real strong argument of pre-determinism.

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Yeah.

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There's no free will.

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It does seem like that.

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Yeah.

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It does seem like we're dipping into Calvin territory.

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Yeah.

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This is a horrifying view.

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Of course, we all know what happens in Revelation.

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Yeah.

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Geopolitically, if the US and Russia teamed up, they could dominate the world.

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But we know from Revelation that's not going to happen.

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But that's such a fucking cop out.

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Fuck you.

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Fair enough.

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Fuck you.

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How dare you?

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Fair enough.

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The Book of Revelation doesn't also include, like,

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a hundred years of prep time for the Antichrist to rise.

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There is that part in Revelation about how the devil's ten years behind.

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Wow, that was an interesting thing for Jon to add.

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Yeah.

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So we get another caller, and this dude is on every fucking episode.

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He calls in all the time.

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There's a dude named Carlos.

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Okay.

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And he thinks that everything that's going on right now is an attack on Christianity.

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Sure.

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What do you...

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Obviously, I'm going to cover this John Hopkins document tomorrow that admits we're in a simulation

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takeover.

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The vaccines are going to make a lot of people sick.

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It's a society collapsing weapon.

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It's so incredible.

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What is their big end game?

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Why are they so savage?

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Why are they moving ahead with something so incredibly dangerous and committing these

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giant mass crimes?

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Because what people don't realize, and this is Good Friday to think about it, this is

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an Antichristian worldwide movement.

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Sure.

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It is led by individuals who are not Christians.

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Exactly.

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The US is taking more vaccines than anybody else, and predominantly it's Christian countries

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being hit by this.

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You're exactly right.

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I don't know how this dude gets on every day.

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Almost every day.

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It makes me think that either he has a priority number or they don't get that many calls.

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I doubt they get that many calls.

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Because that Carlos dude is on all the fucking time.

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Okay.

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And Alex has a bizarre level of deference for him.

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He lets Carlos talk for quite a while.

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Carlos seems like a guy that is in the circle.

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He has some thoughts.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know, maybe he's just letting people talk too much now because he gets another

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caller, and I will say that he let this guy talk too long.

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Too long?

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A little bit too long.

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Oh, that's unsurprising.

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Not the same kind of problems that Harrison Smith gets when people talk too long.

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Sure.

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This guy just sounds a little bit sovereign citizen-y.

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Oh.

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You know, we have some really big issues.

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Trump owns the original post office, and it's been...

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The original post office?

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The wars are between post office.

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And, you know, this whole thing is about the legal fictions that Congress created to our

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birth certificates that were representing that all caps name.

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So...

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Is that MF2?

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What you said over and over, we're operating under color of law.

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Color of law.

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And until and unless we refute their presumptions and stop representing that all caps name,

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now you can find an explanation of that at Adebon Red, Article number 73.

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She really, really gets into it and has sent notices.

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Beautiful, brother.

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I got to tell you, everybody, thank you, Steven.

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Beautiful.

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Wow.

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So...

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All caps when you spell the man named, and...

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Do do do do do do do do do.

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Right.

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Right.

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Beyond that, and that's just standard sovereign citizen stuff.

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Yeah, naturally.

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Hooray for that.

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All caps, birth certificate, you're great.

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Now, I was unaware that Trump owns the original post office.

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I was surprised to discover that as well.

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And that all wars are wars between post offices.

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Did you not know that?

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I didn't.

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Did you not know that there has been a hundred year secret war between post offices?

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Ever since one guy, his horse knocked over another guy's horse and started the great

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post office war.

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I feel like probably there were, in earlier times, some feuding...

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Sure, of course.

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Between, like...

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Capitalism is capitalism.

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If you're getting paid by the letter, yeah, people are going to fight.

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Oh, these days.

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A little different.

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Not sure.

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A little different.

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So this show sucks.

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This episode is not good.

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Sorry, I just got the image of, you know, just a regular post office driver just driving

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on the with the door open on the wrong side.

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And you're like, isn't that cute? You guys are driving.

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They get out and then they're suddenly attacked by another post office guy.

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Throws him into the open window of the car and lights it up on fire.

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The FedEx boys jump UPS boys.

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It's the IRA of post offices.

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Yes, I gotcha.

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So, like I said, this show sucks.

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This episode's bad.

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And in the third hour, Alex has Drew Hernandez on, who's another reporter baby.

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I find this guy's voice incredibly annoying.

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He's on to talk about the border and talk about, oh, everything is.

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Oh, those people from not here.

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They're coming to here and we don't want them here.

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They're from not here.

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But Mike down for this, because this is how the interview started and where I turned it off.

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OK.

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You were saying, yeah, well, let's get into the border, but also some of the culture war stuff

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and some of the things that are going on as they put us onto this virtual economy.

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Tell us about it.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure your viewers are familiar with Bad Baby.

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You know, she's the catch me outside girl that was on Dr. Phil and extremely viral,

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totally depraved.

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She made an OnlyFans.

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I got to go.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what good is going to come with this conversation about the cash me outside girl.

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No, we get only fans.

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No, I don't care.

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Did you know that somebody in a viral video has an OnlyFans account now?

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Did I know she's a rapper?

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Do I care?

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No.

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Goodbye.

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Goodbye, sir.

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Yeah.

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I don't I don't care to listen to you, I guess.

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I mean, best case scenario, shame someone for being a sex worker.

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Like, I don't give a I don't I know people with OnlyFans accounts.

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Cool.

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Have fun.

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Yeah, great.

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I hope you supplement your income, I guess.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, if he's on to talk about the border.

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But first, we're going to get into culture wars.

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Someone has an OnlyFans account.

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I'm mad about it.

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I have to leave.

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I can't I'm not going to take you seriously.

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No, that's that's a dynasty level offense.

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If I had a glass of wine in my hand, I would throw it in that guy's face.

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How dare you say that.

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The temerity.

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Yeah.

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And plus, like, I mean, realistically, Saturday is just right around the corner.

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Of course.

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I'm not going to waste my time with Drew Hernandez.

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Yeah.

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I'm not going to waste my time.

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You've got an hour of meat and gristle to really dig your teeth into.

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Yep.

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So here we go.

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This is where things start off with Alex covering the Johns Hopkins document.

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Sure.

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Now, most people that are informed have heard about Event 201.

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They've heard about Operation Lockstep.

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They've heard about Crimson Contagion.

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They've heard about Disease X and the UN Drills.

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But have you heard about

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2025, 2028, it is all of those plans together.

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It's not.

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But not set in the near future, like those previous drills were,

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but set out a few more years in the future.

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That's the time we're in now.

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So just superimpose 2025 to 2028 with 2020 to 2023.

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And it is exactly what's happening.

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So I love the idea that Alex says the Johns Hopkins scenario depicts things

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exactly as they're happening in real life, just superimposed on a different date.

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Also, nothing funnier than it's not a little bit in the future.

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It's a few years.

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It's not in the near future, idiots.

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It's in the near, near future.

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Alex didn't know where that sentence was going to end when it started.

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That's a bad dismount.

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So when he's talking about things being exactly like real life, just a few years off.

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Sure.

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I have a few things to say.

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Okay, toss it at me.

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First of all, one of the main tensions of the Hopkins exercise is messaging issues around

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a drug that was believed to be effective against spars called Calosevir.

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Calosevir.

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There wasn't a drug that the government was trying to push for the treatment of COVID

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in the way that the medical community gets behind Calosevir in this exercise.

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Maybe remdesivir, possibly, but...

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Yeah.

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I mean, your basic there is like Trump and his messaging campaign pushed

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hydroxychloroquine so hard.

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Yeah.

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The mixed messaging though.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It doesn't fit for this.

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And I don't think that remdesivir does either in terms of the way it's depicted in the exercise.

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So to me, this seems like one really big problem with the scenario matching real world history.

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Second, backlash to Calosevir begins in February 2026, four months into the outbreak,

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when a video of a child projectile vomiting after taking a dose goes viral online.

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This did not happen four months into COVID, even metaphorically.

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That's fair.

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Third, in May 2026, a made up rapper named BZ suffers a public embarrassment when trying

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to promote sparse treatments to his audience when he compares people who volunteer for

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vaccine trials to participants in the Tuskegee experiments.

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This did not happen in the real world.

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Exhibit A in why scientists don't become rappers.

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Our fictitious rapper is named BZ.

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Sure.

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There are plenty of examples of things like this that did not happen in the real world,

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but do in the scenario exercise, because the point of the events that happened in the scenario

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is to create situations where messaging challenges would arise that the exercise participants

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could reflect on how best to respond.

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The inclusion of a situation like this rapper making a public gaffe in this scenario doesn't

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make sense out of context.

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When you don't see this exercise within the context of why it exists, it seems really weird.

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But when you understand that it's designed to assist medical communications professionals

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brainstorm the ways that they might need to respond to various events in a crisis, the

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picture makes far more sense.

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At the same time that BZ makes his comments, the fictional former president, Jacqueline

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Bennett, gives a noncommittal answer about whether or not she would give her grandson

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callous of ear, which creates a similar but slightly different messaging problem for the

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exercise participants to reflect on.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Anyway, the point is a bunch of things that happen in very differently in this imagined

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scenario than have happened in our real world outbreak.

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Alex is just trying to pretend everything is the same because it's more fun and profitable

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for him, but it's all made up.

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So is this SBZ supposed to be a play on Yeezy?

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I thought Jay-Z.

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Well, I mean, but the very public gaffe would suggest more of a Kanye circumstance.

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Yeah, you're not wrong, but I think that...

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Are they saying that Kanye is going to Taylor Swift COVID-19?

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No, because in the context of the scenario exercise, BZ is one of the people who was

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enlisted to help get messaging out about the safety of the treatment.

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And then he said George Bush doesn't care about black people.

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I don't think that Kanye would be enlisted by the medical community.

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Not anymore, not anymore.

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So this document, my friend, is a timeline.

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This is what you need to understand.

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Naturally.

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Timeline.

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But a few years off into the near near future.

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Basically, you just transpose the beginning of the outbreak to the outbreak in the document.

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Sure.

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You could tell what's going to happen in the future.

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That sounds right.

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And unfortunately, we are six months away from something bad.

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Oh, that's bad.

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Now, here's what's devastating.

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We're about 13 months into the simulation that, again, is not really a simulation.

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They're using that to cover their operations.

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In case they get caught with the documents, they just say it's part of the drill.

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That's a classic operation by intelligence agencies, governments, but also health agencies.

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Classic by health agencies.

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Next, they say that within six months to a year of people being inoculated with these

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experimental GMO gene therapies, that you will have massive brain damage and spongiform

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encephalopathy, basically, or prion disease, mad cow disease.

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So that's good, good times.

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That's a real bummer.

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That's going to be a really rough six months to a year from now.

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Don't worry, it's bullshit.

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Oh, okay.

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So in the exercise, there's this potential basis for a vaccine discovered in the form

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of an animal vaccine for hoofed mammal respiratory virus developed by a company called GMI.

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This condition was similar in many ways to SPARS, so researchers began looking at whether

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or not it could be effective for humans.

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One of the initial downsides was that, quote, data provided by GMI suggested that the vaccine

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was effective at preventing SPARS-like illness in cows, pigs, and other hoofed mammals, but

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internal trials revealed several worrisome side effects, including swollen legs, severe

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joint pain, and encephalitis leading to seizures or death.

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Right, and cows learning how to talk.

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Sure.

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In this scenario, in May 2027, a group of parents, the size of the group is unspecified,

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they sue the government because they believe that their children got encephalitis from

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the vaccine.

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The claims are not presented as necessarily accurate.

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It's just more detail added to make this a more real scenario, since this mirrors real

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world anti-vax folks, and it's something that presents a challenge to the messaging that's

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required for medical communicators.

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Naturally.

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The scenario does say that, quote, after showing no adverse side effects for nearly a year,

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several vaccine recipients slowly began to experience symptoms such as blurry vision,

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headaches, and numbness in their extremities.

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Due to the small number of cases, the significance of the association with Corvax was never determined.

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As of this writing in 2030, longitudinal studies initiated by the NIH at the beginning of

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the vaccination program have not reached the next round of data collection, so formal

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analysis of these symptoms has not yet been conducted.

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Furthermore, these cases arose from the initial cohort of vaccine recipients, those in high

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risk populations, including those with other underlying conditions, making it increasingly

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difficult to determine the extent to which these symptoms are associated with vaccination.

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I read this earlier, but I wanted to read it again because this brings up an important

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point, and that is that these elements of the scenario, it's left intentionally open

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ended because it exists to pose a question to the participants, not to depict a reality

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that actually exists.

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In that scenario, how does a person in a position of medical messaging respond?

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How do you convey confidence on the medical side of things, while still acknowledging

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certain uncertainties?

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These are the sorts of questions this story arc is meant to bring up.

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Because Alex knows better and he's a psychic, he's realized that this is actually the globalists

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admitting that they're going to give everyone mad cow disease, when the encephalitis is

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really just the animal vaccine that GMI created, and it's just encephalitis in animals, and

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then there's some parents who allege encephalitis, but it's not actually proven in the case of

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the scenario.

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No, and that's maybe the most important question for the study to ask, which is how is it that

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we can tell people, honestly, we don't know, and at the same time reassure them that they

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can trust us?

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Yeah, and one of the other things that they take great care to point out is exploring

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ideas of how to be compassionate about the uncertainty, because it's an understandable

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feeling for people to have, and how do you mix that compassion about the uncertainty

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with the confidence in medical science?

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It's a challenging thing, but that's why you do exercises like this.

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Yeah, my message would probably not be good, it would be more something like, listen, we

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know public education has failed you between first and eighth grade, at least.

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You wouldn't make it through the exercise.

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So the thing is that Alex is connecting this with the study that he's found, right?

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So they say encephalitis in the scenario, right?

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And that's like the Zika virus, right?

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I just mentioned to you spongiform encephalopathy, or prion disease, microbiology infectious

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diseases journal, COVID-19 RNA-based vaccines, and the risk of prion disease.

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That was put out in 2021 by prestigious scientists.

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Whenever you hear Alex say that a claim is being made by a prestigious scientist, that

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means he has no idea who the person is.

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Yeah, I was going to say that's a huge red flag immediately.

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It's an unknown quantity, but he wants to elevate this claim that they're making because

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it works well for him.

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This claim that the COVID vaccine causes prion disease was based entirely on a non-peer reviewed

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paper by a guy named J. Bart Klassen.

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No one agrees with his conclusion, and he is not a prestigious scientist.

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According to USA Today, quote, in 1999 he claimed the influenza vaccine caused type

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one diabetes, a claim disproven by Johns Hopkins University Institute for Vaccine Safety.

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He's just an anti-vax weirdo who makes these claims pretty regularly whenever there's a

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vaccine that needs to be smeared.

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Vaccines cause IBS!

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Alright, man, okay.

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So now Alex is there.

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He's rolling deep, though, with the crew.

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Sure.

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To quote B.Z.

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Nicely done.

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He's got Rob Dues.

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It is Easter, so Jesus walks.

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Oh.

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So Rob Dues is in studio, the corporate representative Rob Dues, and he's just blown away by this

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document.

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Rob Dues.

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Yeah, so the parallels on this are just from a, when you looked at 9-11 and you saw the

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parallels that happened, this has got the same thing in it with like massive power outages.

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You've got a male and female president, the president who's a male stops after a few years,

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the female who's, she's only in for one term and then she leaves and then the male president

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takes over.

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We kind of have that going on.

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So first of all, Biden hasn't stepped down, so this isn't actually a similarity at all.

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No, it's exactly like that.

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It's happening, though.

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You can see it.

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I don't know if the Infowars universe is just so convinced that it's going to happen any

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day now that they've just decided it's already happened, but this is just a similarity in

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Rob's head.

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So in this scenario, the president is named Randall Archer.

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He'd previously been the vice president under Jacqueline Bennett.

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She didn't step down, she just decided not to run for a second term after being president

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from 2020 to 2024, at which point Archer ran and won.

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Shouting, fuck you guys, you were shit.

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Bennett is still actively involved in being an advisor, but was not up to seeking re-election

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quote due to health concerns.

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This is the case in the scenario because it creates an interesting dynamic where there's

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a new president, but also a fully functioning and intact staff at the Department of Health

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and Human Services.

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In terms of what the exercise is designed to explore, this makes total sense.

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Essentially, former President Bennett exists as a prop, so she can be a character that

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makes a media gaffe where she gives that non-committal answer about Calus Avere.

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Sure, sure.

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The character that does that should be a beloved public figure, you know, because then it works,

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there's a weird dynamic there, but it also shouldn't be the current president because

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that's too weird.

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So a former president works great.

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In order to make that scenario work, she would have to have just had one term, and ideally

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she shouldn't have just lost an election.

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Seems like the best way to get to that story beat would be if you just didn't want to seek

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re-election.

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Everybody still trusts her, so the gaffe would carry so much weight that they would be influenced

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by it, while at the same time, you couldn't lose an election and have everybody be influenced

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in the same way.

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It would be weird.

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And you don't want it to be the current president because it adds a whole layer to it.

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The other specific that Rob uses is this power outage, which I will admit is in the scenario.

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There's a massive power outage in the Pacific Northwest just one week prior to the rollout

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of the vaccine, which doesn't match up with what Rob wants it to in the real world, sure.

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He's trying to compare that to the Texas outages, which happened well after vaccination programs

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began and are reality.

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Again, it's important to understand why this specific detail is included in the exercise.

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This is all about medical messaging in a public health emergency, so this power outage was

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added to the scenario so participants could consider what methods they might employ if

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they didn't have access to things like social media.

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With a massive power outage, one of the main methods of communications is less effective.

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But you need to continue helping the public through, so what do you do?

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This is super clear from the exercise if you read it, but if you just want to make random

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connections, I guess you could do what Rob Doo is doing, and it's really embarrassing.

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I mean, look, this is what it says in the text, quote, all communication about the vaccine

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rollout was published in electronic form, and consequently many individuals in the affected

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areas were initially unable to access information provided by state, local, and federal health

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authorities regarding CoraVax dispensing.

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Reasonable.

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Immediately after this, there are study questions for the participants in the document, like,

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quote, while greater use of electronic media opens new opportunities for broad outreach,

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what communications vulnerabilities exist that could impede communication efforts via

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electronic media?

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Or the other question, quote, how can public health communicators remain flexible when

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multiple disasters occur at once?

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Right.

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In their paper about designing scenario-based exercises, Ogilvy and Schwartz discuss the

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need for stories that follow various plots, and one of the most common archetypes is crisis

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and response.

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This plot element is about introducing a big problem, and then the participants get to

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respond.

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The paper discusses an exercise they ran with Shell that followed basically this exact same

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path.

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Quote, first comes the scenario's crisis.

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Initial signs of environmental degradation lead reputable scientists to conclude that

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an environmental disaster is fast approaching.

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A few leading governments and companies change the way they do business.

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Disasters begin to occur in countries that could not or chose not to adapt, and there's

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public outcry.

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The playing field, the organizational operating environment, is suddenly dramatically altered.

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The innovative firms that learn to make difficult changes in their business practices to avoid

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environmental degradation are now positioned to become market leaders.

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In the Johns Hopkins exercise, the outbreak itself is the initial crisis.

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Then things like the power outage in the Pacific Northwest or the video of the kid vomiting

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represent new crises that the participants have to deal with.

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This is the context of what Alex and Rob are lying about, and it makes total sense there's

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no way to read that document and not understand that that's what it is.

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That's so funny to me that they missed the most important question of having that kind

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of power outage a week before the vaccine rollout, which would just simply be like,

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okay, an astonishing number of people are going to think that God is punishing us for

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this vaccine.

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How do we deal with that?

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Or are all the Proud Boys accounted for?

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Yeah, is this witches?

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People are going to ask us why God punished us with this power outage before the vaccine.

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You know what?

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That isn't in the exercise, but I think...

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It's a subtext.

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Jordan, to be fair, it was made in 2017.

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That's true.

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If it was made today, that might've been a relevant messaging question, but yeah.

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Okay.

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People are going to assume meteorologists are witches.

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What do we do about that from a health standpoint?

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It's interesting to me that this is how Rob Dues starting it out.

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He's talking about these similarities.

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One is not a similarity at all in that Biden hasn't stepped down, and even if he did, it

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doesn't match the scenario that's depicted in the exercise.

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And then the other one is that there's a power outage, but they're completely different situations.

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And if you understand what the document is for, it makes total sense that a power outage

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would be in there.

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It creates an important teaching moment about using non-electronic methods.

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Every time Dues goes to a diner, he has failed the, what are the three differences picture.

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Oh dude.

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He's never gotten one of those cereal boxes, placemats, it doesn't matter.

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Shut up.

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I just had a great idea.

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Okay.

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Have you ever played Overcooked?

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Uh, yes.

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We tried one time.

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Yeah, it's that game where you have to cook meals, you know, like you're running around

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chopping up an onion.

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You gotta do the thing.

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It's like Burger Boss or whatever it is.

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I have a new idea.

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Okay.

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Dues Diner.

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Try and figure out puzzles that are way too easy.

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No, no, no.

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It's Overcooked, but the goal is to fail.

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You just have to fail interestingly.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I like that game.

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That's a good open-ended game.

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Anybody who can program an app, don't waste your time on that.

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Please don't.

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Uh, so Alex gets to starting up reading the, uh, the document and this is fun.

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I love this.

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Let's go ahead and begin here.

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Here is the project team who is on it.

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All these different top eugenicists, top globalist, uh, from around the country.

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John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

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The team, uh, it's top eugenicists, right?

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It's five senior associates with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, a professor

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from Texas State, and a Masters of Public Health candidate from Columbia University.

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Well yeah.

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Top eugenicists.

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How do you get any of those things without a proven track record of top eugenicism?

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Alex has no idea who any of these people are.

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Why would you?

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Just making this up.

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Why would you know who they are?

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Oh yeah, this Masters student is a fucking top eugenicist.

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A sane person who doesn't directly, uh, affect, uh, interact with these people know who they

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are.

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This Columbia University grad student is a sixth generation eugenicist.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Ah.

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So anyway, I warned you earlier that there was a squirrely weirdo coming up named Mike.

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Mike.

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Mike the squirrely weirdo.

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I honestly don't know who this dude is.

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I think he might be an Infowars employee.

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He might be Harrison Smith's roommate.

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Sure.

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I don't fucking know.

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Could be anybody.

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But he is weird.

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Wife's tennis instructor.

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He is weird.

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He's a liar.

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Okay.

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And, uh, this can be found inside of the sparse document word for word after showing no adverse

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side effects for nearly a year, vaccine recipients slowly began to experience symptoms as time

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passed and more people across the United States were vaccinated claims of adverse side effects

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began to emerge.

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As the investigations grew in intensity, several high ranking officials at the CDC and FDA

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were forced to step down and withdraw from government.

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They're setting up the health officials and the politicians to take the fall for this.

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What Mike is reading here, that's definitely from the document, but he's made a classic

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Infowars move here and that he's taken two unrelated passages from the text and combine

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them, pretending they're about the same thing in order to lie about this document.

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Yeah.

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The part about people experiencing side effects after a year is from chapter 17.

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It's on page 60.

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The second part about government officials stepping down is chapter 19.

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It's on page 67.

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It's completely unrelated to the previous chapter's conversation about possible side

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effects.

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Here is the paragraph about the government officials in full quote after action reports,

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government hearings and agency reviews following the pandemic were too numerous to count.

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Emergency funding appropriated by Congress to fight the disease became available partway

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through the course of the pandemic, but federal state and local public health agencies struggled

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to manage the procedural requirements to spend it.

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That does sound familiar.

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As a result, significant amounts of emergency funds remained unused as the pandemic wound

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down.

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As the investigations grew in intensity, several high ranking officials at the CDC and FDA

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were forced to step down and withdraw from government in order to quote spend more time

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with their families.

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The investigations that are causing these imaginary officials to step down are not related

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to possible drug side effects.

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It's clearly about mismanagement of funds.

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If this guy's read the document as he's presenting himself as having done, then he knows fully

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well that the two passages he just read as if they were one paragraph are actually two

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completely different sections of the document.

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If this document actually said what he wanted it to, he wouldn't have to lie like this in

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order to make it look like it met his needs.

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This is bullshit, weirdo Mike.

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That is funny that even in the Johns Hopkins report, it's like, listen, we all know at

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least 15 to 20 senators are corrupt as shit.

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We're just going to put in that some of them had to quit.

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I mean, I think that the scenario paints a very realistic portrait of some of the things

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that you could expect might happen.

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Absolutely.

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We'll deal with another one of them that Rob Dew thinks is maybe wizardry a little bit

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later, but I don't know.

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From reading the document, I think there's some pretty fair assumptions that are made

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and then also some ones that are like, that's a little silly, but they're all in service

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of what the document is for.

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Right.

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They're teaching documents.

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They're still focused around this exercise that is how do medical communicators rise

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to various challenges.

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Now I think that clip right there where Mike is reading two different sections as if they

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were the same, because when he's talking about these side effects, he then says, as investigations

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grow in intensity, and that's meant to lead the audience to think that these investigations...

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Very clearly split those quotes, but then combine them together to form a single quote.

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Which leads you to believe that the investigations are about drug side effects, and that's how

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they're going to set up the politicians to take the fall for this, has nothing to do

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with that.

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He has to know that.

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And this is the point at which any reasonable person would just be like, fuck this.

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You're absolutely misrepresenting the primary document you're talking about, and there's

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no way that that is an accident.

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There's no way you did this accidentally.

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Well, I mean, it's somewhat similar to Alex's synopsis of Romeo and Juliet in so far as

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he leaves out a bunch of the middle between those two things.

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No it's not.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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No, I know.

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It would be like if he threw in a little bit of Hamlet.

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Yeah, that sounds fun.

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So anyway, Mike gets to being weird some more about a passage about vaccine distribution.

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To determine how to best distribute limited doses of Corovax to members of priority groups

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across the country, the US government resorted to new controversial tactics, notably having

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health care providers access patients' electronic health records to determine the number of

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individuals in high-risk populations receiving care in particular areas.

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This passage really undercuts the argument that this document represents the globalist

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plan because they didn't do that.

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Also, while we're on the subject of things that didn't happen in real life that do happen

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in the scenario, we should look at chapter 10 and see one of the big, uh, giant, gigantic,

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I'm going to come up with more words, one of the big public messaging crises that come

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up over the course of the exercise.

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Gojira emerged from the ocean.

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No, that's chapter 12.

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Oh, okay, okay.

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In chapter 10 of the scenario, there's a huge public backlash because doctors and nurses

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aren't included in the highest priority group for the distribution of the vaccine.

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Yeah, that would cause a huge public backlash.

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Yeah, they even designed two fake tweets that illustrate the outrage that was happening

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in the medical worker communities.

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There's a strike in Milwaukee among health care providers when they won't go to work

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unless they're made of vaccine priority.

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Yeah.

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And none of that happened in life.

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Yeah, no, that's a totally reasonable thing for them to do were that unreasonable thing

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to occur.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Also in the scenario, there's a groundswell of college activism taking place in the social

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media app that's created for this exercise called Unequal.

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On the exercise, quote, another group that was not generally affected by the government's

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Corovax promotion efforts were college students, especially those attending school on the east

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and west coasts.

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Public health officials had no explanation for the lack of vaccine uptake among this

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population until protests began at several college campuses, including UC Berkeley, the

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University of Washington, Reed College, Harvard, and the University of Chicago.

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The focus of these protests was the lack of access to Corovax, particularly for populations

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in less developed countries like Haiti, Guatemala, and Cameroon.

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The college students involved declared that they would not accept Corovax until it was

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made available in terms of both access and expense to everyone in the world who wanted

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it.

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Right.

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This, too, did not happen in the real world.

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Right, right, right.

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Yeah.

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The reason these events are included in the scenario is the same as anything that is in

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there.

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They present an opportunity for the participants to wrestle with challenges in the field of

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medical messaging.

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None of it's real, but it portrays situations that are close enough to seeming real for

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them to be effective in role-playing situations.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And that's enough for Alex to think that it's all secretly real.

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Yeah, I mean, it seems fun whenever these studies predict events that do wind up occurring,

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because you're like, ooh, look at how good those predictions are.

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But it's really just based on the shit we've already seen that's going to almost certainly

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happen again, because people don't learn lessons from things exactly like the thing that we're

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writing now.

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So Mike is a weirdo, I've decided.

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And he reads this passage, and again, normal people would have checked out already, but

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I'm not normal.

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I still want to hear more.

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I mean, this gets worse, Alex.

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Severe side effects, including swollen legs, severe joint pain, and encephalitis potentially

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resulting in seizures, seizure disorders, or death occasionally occurred word for word

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from the document.

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Something now happening in Max.

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We've got to add all the B-roll to that.

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So what Mike is failing to mention here is the passage he's reading is about the side

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effects.

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It's not for the Corvex human vaccine.

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It's from the section about the vaccine for animals.

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There's an added bit of comedy in that he's reading a quote from a fake email that the

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scenario created in order to depict an exchange of information about an animal vaccine, and

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then Mike's dumb ass is pretending it's a document talking about human side effects.

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Just amazing.

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That is real, real bummer town level shit.

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Here's what he read in context, what the actual thing says, quote, in 2021 a coronavirus caused

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an outbreak in region seven, parenthetically Southeast Asia, in the hoofed mammal populations.

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Our researchers developed and produced in-house an effective vaccine against the infection.

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Its subsequent approval and use successfully ended the outbreak in the region.

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While largely effective in preventing infection, severe side effects, including swollen legs,

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severe joint pain and encephalitis, potentially resulting in seizures, seizure disorder or

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death occasionally occurred.

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Given the millions of vaccinations required for region seven, this resulted in measurable

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losses in the animal population.

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This is critical to understand.

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If this document actually said what these dumdums were claiming it was, they wouldn't

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resort to tactics like this.

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This is so manipulative, it's nonsense.

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This is bullshit.

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If it were truly a smoking gun, they'd just be able to read it.

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They wouldn't have to pretend that they were reading this fake email from the document

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as if it's a real thing about a human vaccine.

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What's the point of having these things if you're just going to highlight like one paragraph

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from every other chapter and then just combine them into a single double-spaced page?

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You know?

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Why?

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Yeah.

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Fuck off.

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So Mike reads a passage about conspiracy theories that go around.

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And Alex gets so excited that he has to read it himself.

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Oh boy.

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I think it's because he's like, I want to maybe use a cut of me saying this later, like

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in a John Bowne report, and I don't want to have this weirdo reading it.

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I want it to be in my voice.

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Conspiracy theories also profited across social media suggesting that the virus had been purposely

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created and introduced to the population by drug companies or that it had escaped from

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a government lab secretly testing bio-weapons.

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This is in 2017 right after Fauci says a virus will be released.

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It's going to happen.

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It's going to challenge Trump.

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It's going to be a surprise operation.

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Fauci didn't say that.

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In the speech that he was given, we've talked about this, he was talking about how every

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administration deals with an unforeseen health crisis.

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And he said that conspiracy theories would abound that it would escape from a government

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lab just 20 years after Alex started saying that every four months.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting too.

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Yeah.

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It's like, we listened to that 2003 episode and now it's just saying foot and mouth came

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out of port and down.

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Yeah.

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The same thing.

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It's like, yeah, of course they would add that scenario in there.

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That's what you do.

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That's one of the things that's like, oh, this is giving texture to the world.

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Exactly.

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And it's not even a major point.

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That's not even like...

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It's just mentioned.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's after the fact.

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It's after the entire course of the outbreak happens in terms of the document.

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Call me when conspiracy theorists in this paper decide to inspire people to overthrow

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the country.

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So Mike, I mean, look, some of this stuff, I don't know.

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Like someone who's really generous might be able to say he's just sloppy.

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Sure.

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But there's intention behind the misrepresentations he's presenting.

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I don't believe that he did this by accident.

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Someone incredibly generous, neither of which are we.

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No.

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Also, I think...

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I heard this and I got really worried.

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This took me two weeks to read, by the way.

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The wording, it weaves everything together so you're like, what is going on?

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Is this an exercise?

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Is this real?

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I was just trying to do the best job I can to extract everything.

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So if you had five minutes, you could just understand what's happening.

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Oh my God.

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Bad.

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Oh my God.

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Bad.

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Super bad.

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Oh my God.

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Some things require more than five minutes.

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That's a good thing.

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Sure.

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I can't imagine taking two weeks and then coming away with that sort of sewn together

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quotation that misrepresents the point.

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I don't understand, too, being able to look at this and not be able to understand fairly

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quickly what it is.

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I understand if you see it out of context, completely out of context, it could be confusing

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for a bit.

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Sure.

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But if you sat down...

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Perhaps you only had five minutes to hear about it.

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Sure.

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If you sat down and actually read a couple pages, it explains the exercise at the beginning.

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Yeah, of course.

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It explains...

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It starts with, Dear Alex Jones, please, we're explaining the exercise.

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You literally can't use this for your propaganda.

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I really, really don't understand the idea of anyone sitting with this for an hour, let

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alone two weeks, and coming away with any confusion about, oh, also there is a disclaimer

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that Alex shouldn't use this.

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Let me read this, quote, this is a hypothetical scenario designed to illustrate the public

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health risk communication challenges that could potentially emerge during a naturally

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occurring infectious disease outbreak requiring development and distribution of a novel and

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or investigational drugs, vaccines, therapeutics, or other medical countermeasures.

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The infectious pathogen...

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Oh, I just did an Alex.

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The infectious pathogen, medical countermeasures, characters, news media, excerpts, social media

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posts, and government agency responses described herein are entirely fictional.

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So there is a disclaimer.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But that does not stop these dorks.

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Doesn't sound like it.

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Dan, it's about what they're not saying.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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It's like jazz.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So here's Mike.

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Two weeks of study.

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Two weeks of intense study.

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And now he's going to bring back up this power outage.

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Okay.

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A week before Corovax was released for distribution in the United States, the power grid at the

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Grand Coulee Dam in eastern Washington state experienced a catastrophic failure.

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While the event did not destroy any infrastructure or result in any deaths, it did cause widespread

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power outages in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and British Columbia.

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Though power was restored within a day of the initial outage, blackouts continued plaguing

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these areas over the next three weeks.

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And the resurgence of the banned widespread panic.

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Why would they put that in a vaccine exercise?

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Because they're all behind all this.

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They're showing off to their people.

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Keep going.

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Yeah.

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So Mike seems so confused by why they would include something about a power outage in

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this document about a medical situation.

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But if he'd actually read it, he shouldn't be confused.

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It's literally spelled out in the exercise.

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This is very clearly to get participants to consider how to be effective in getting messaging

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out in a real non-digital world.

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From the scenario, quote, state and local public health officials scrambled to hand

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deliver flyers printed and copied at local emergency operation centers using backup generators

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to explain vaccine prioritization and POD information.

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This extremely time-consuming effort exhausted the public health workforce already stretched

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thin by the epidemic response and several years of budget cuts.

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But it was ultimately successful.

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Early vaccination rates in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho were very similar to other states

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and in some cases above average.

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In spite of this success, the incident underscored the shortcomings associated with relying solely

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on electronic communication strategies.

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That what I just read to you is immediately after the part he was reading.

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Yeah, it makes it very clear.

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Almost impossible to misunderstand.

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Yes.

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There's no way to believe that he took two weeks to read this and couldn't understand

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what the point was.

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This is either someone who's deeply disturbed and needs help, needs like mental help, or

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he's a willful liar.

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And I'm more inclined to believe it's the latter.

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Yeah, I mean, this is not a generous interpretation, but the idea of these people reading a document

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that tells them what it says absolutely does confuse them.

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Like on a deep level.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Because they can't just be like, oh, like that's not a thing they can do.

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They can't read an explanation of what's happening and go, oh, well they're being honest with

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me.

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I understand that.

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You know?

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I understand that dynamic.

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Now, if they weren't copy and pasting various parts of the document in order to create a

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misrepresentation of what it says, if they weren't pretending that side effects and animals

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were actually humans, like if they weren't doing stuff like that, then maybe I would

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be like, oh, this is just suspiciousness run amuck.

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But there is work that's been done in order to misrepresent this document.

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Not two weeks' worth, but there has been work done.

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No.

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Now, Jordan, Rob, do he's about to have his mind blown, man.

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This doc.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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It's crazy.

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Let's go to the next one.

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You look at the similarity to the names, spars, COVID, and then we have SARS COVID two.

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Okay.

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Same.

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Almost same exact name.

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And they wrote this three or four years before they added a number and they, and they, and

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they just added a P, they added a P and a V.

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Exactly.

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It's really crazy.

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Where's the V?

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It's almost like scientists aren't interested too much in different naming conventions when

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it comes to viruses.

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And instead it's almost a classification.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Spars, it means St. Paul acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus, which is similar to

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SARS COV-2.

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Yeah, sure.

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The reason that this is probably, it's named after the city that it popped up in.

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And the reason that it is that, and we've had this whole thing about not naming things

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after places is because that whole thing is a world health organization convention that

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you don't name something after the city or the location where it came up and the world

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health organization isn't involved in this exercise.

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Because that would give a massive incentive for people to be like, never fuck with those

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people ever again.

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Don't go to St. Paul.

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Exactly.

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Plus this was in 2017, which is fairly shortly after the world health organization changed

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its best practices about that whole thing.

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So there may have been some lingering confusion about naming conventions.

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Sure.

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I almost guarantee that if the world health organization had made this scenario, it probably

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would have named the condition SARS COV-2 and like Rob Dew would have a heart attack.

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Yeah, no, he would shit.

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Yeah.

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He would just shit.

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Yeah.

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Fuck it.

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I might shit.

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Yeah.

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It is not weird.

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No.

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At all.

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No.

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It's a convention.

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It's a naming convention.

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It's a fucking taxonomy, you know?

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It's like kingdom phylum, you know, it's yeah.

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In terms of like a conspiracy theory, this is the one that rises to the level of, eh,

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eh, eh.

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How about that?

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Their names are, yeah.

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That's how they name stuff.

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Yep.

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There's another connection with the real world though.

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Do they want them to name viruses like they do hurricanes?

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Like this is virus Maria.

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Is that what they would feel better about?

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Maybe.

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Well.

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Let's flip another thing in this, uh, this next clip that, uh, that it is kind of similar

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to real world.

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Then we have the inflated fatality estimates.

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Initially they write in the scenario, CDC fatality rate, almost 5%, who fatality rate

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14 and a half percent.

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And then the fatality rate of over 64 is 50%.

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This is fair.

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The inflated death estimates are in the scenario, but they're there for a few reasons.

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The first is that the scenario is supposed to depict reality and the reality of dealing

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with a completely new disease is that sometimes you get some things off.

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One of the main reasons is actually spelled out in the document.

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If you read it quote at the outset of the sparse outbreak, physician's understanding

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of the disease stem primarily from extremely severe cases resulting in pneumonia or hypoxia.

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There required hospitalization and extensive medical treatment, mild cases of the disease,

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which produced symptoms, including cough, fever, headaches, and malaise were often perceived

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as the flu by people who had them and consequently often went untreated and undiagnosed by medical

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personnel.

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As a result, early case fatality estimates were inflated.

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This is a real dynamic that we've seen play out in the COVID-19 outbreak, but it's been

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true in other past outbreaks as well.

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The issue is that you can't always assume that it's going to be the case or else you're

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putting yourself in a position to get blindsided by a super deadly condition that you happen

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to underestimate.

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It's far better to be over cautious with new diseases than to just let them go and see

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what happens.

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Again, this is what we talked about, diseases have killed almost all of us.

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Yeah, be careful.

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We should be crazy.

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Be careful with that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the other reason that this is in the document is because it's made as an exercise for medical

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communicators.

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And what could be a greater communication challenge than having been wrong initially?

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The study question for this section is quote, how can health authorities best meet public

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demands for critical information such as what is the health threat and what do I know about

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it when the crisis is still unfolding and not all the facts are known?

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If you understand this in the context it was written and used, all of the things that they're

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trying to create paranoia about just sound fucking stupid.

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Yeah.

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It's awesome.

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Yeah.

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It is awesome.

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Dude, this next thing that they try and make like a conspiracy out of, holy shit, these

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guys are dumb.

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All right, sell me on it.

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Let's go to the antivirals is the next slide.

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In this scenario, they have one called Calosovir, all right?

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Teens in an IR, side effects, nausea, headaches, vomiting, and body aches.

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There's actually a viral video of a boy in this scenario taking the Colosovir and then

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immediately projectile vomiting everywhere.

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Yeah.

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They even have videos of their scenario.

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It's crazy.

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And then, and they go back to it, then three years later, it's Remdesivir.

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And this is not the real name.

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This is the name they gave it later.

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It's actually got a different name that they, that it's, that it's made from.

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And remember they said Remdesivir was this new experimental thing they just developed.

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Exactly.

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But they had the damn name three years before.

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Same side effects.

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Nausea, constipation, vomiting.

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They only changed a few letters.

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It's all about rubbing in their faces.

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It is.

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They really do.

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This is smoking gun.

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If these dudes cared at all, they could learn why these drugs have similar names.

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They could learn so much.

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Yeah.

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These are generic names for the drug, which is to say they're not brand names.

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Right.

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The convention for naming generic drugs is to have the suffix of the word indicate what

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the drug is.

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For instance, antiviral drugs generally end in the suffix V-I-R for viral.

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This isn't universal, but most of them end up with this, uh, this, and that's why these

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two do.

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Sure.

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You know, you can go down the list of antiviral, and then also like penicillin derived drugs

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have cillin, like a box of cillin.

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Right, right, right, right.

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It's how drugs are named.

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It's very simple.

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It's, and it's done that way on purpose to be simple so people don't have to, yeah, no.

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The people making the scenario were striving to fill it with realistic details, so they

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followed accepted conventions for naming the drug they made up in it.

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Alex and Rob Dew are so stupid and so addicted to thinking coincidences mean something, that

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they take that as a sign that the document is mocking them.

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This is nuts.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's like just such a, just don't talk and just scream repeatedly, I refuse to learn

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anything!

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Yeah, it's outrageous.

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Oh, they both end in I-O.

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I refuse!

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I refuse to read the first page of Google!

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No!

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They just changed a few letters.

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You could type any of these questions into Google and the first result would tell you

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what.

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Yeah, it's really easy to understand these things.

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It's so easy.

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So this, this clip is just where everything turns to parody.

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Rob is in the middle of complaining about like medical ads and stuff.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Yeah, and then, and then you have the native ads, which are put out by the vaccine companies

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saying the vaccine is safe and effective.

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And that's all they do.

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Vitamin Mineral Fusion is a remarkable product and it's back in stock 40% off at infowarsstor.com

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right now.

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Don't.

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Don't do that to me.

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It's almost like whoever edited this did that as a joke.

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Did it on purpose, yeah.

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That's, that's just too much.

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He's complaining about like medical ads.

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That is too much.

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And then in the middle of it.

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It's safe, they, these people, all they do is put out these ads that say things are safe

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and effective.

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Anyways, let's go to a commercial of Alex saying that his stuff is safe and effective.

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Oh wow.

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So yeah, they, they've, they've gone, gone a while now and Alex realizes.

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We did it.

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We, we, we have not done it.

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Oh no.

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We're all humans.

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We're all people that care about freedom.

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I get upset.

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Rob gets upset.

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As we spend weeks studying this, we finally get on air and it's just, it's so upsetting.

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We've covered 10% of what's in front of us.

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Every bit of this is just as insane or more insane.

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I haven't even gotten to the part where they admit they're doing this to kill you and get,

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and save the earth.

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I mean, they admit they're doing this.

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That part is not, not in the document.

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They specifically say they're not doing this.

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Although that would introduce a very interesting medical messaging challenge.

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That would be an interesting medical, okay, let's say in this scenario, our secret plan

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has gotten out and gotten into the hands of the least reliable and credulous person.

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Now what do we do?

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You can have, what do we do?

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Let it go?

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I guess.

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Yeah.

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Hit the panic button.

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So yeah, I, I, this is, this is where I checked out.

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Yeah, that's a good place to check out.

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Well, no, this next clip.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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I should have checked out whenever Weird Mike was doing that stuff about the cut and

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paste job that he did.

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Naturally.

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That's when you have like, all right, your credibility's out the window, I got to get

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out of here.

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Gone.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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This show is about giving too many chances.

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Okay.

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Um, and here's where I was like, Alex, go fuck yourself.

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Spend a few minutes just in summation of, of the bombshells that have been released

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here.

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I mean, to me, the strongest thing is the drug name's the same before a drug even exists.

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The virus name the same before they release it.

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Them running the lab.

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I mean, this is smoking gun one in 85 trillion quadrillion.

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Wow.

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So the, the, the thing that, that is so convincing for Alex is that there's similarities in the

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name of Spars Cove and SARS-CoV-2 and the, uh, the name of two antiviral drugs end in

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the same suffix.

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This is nothing.

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Yep.

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This is outrageous.

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Alex started promoting this on Thursday and this is the best he can do on Sunday or on

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Saturday.

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Wow.

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It's, it's offensive to my professionalism.

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What blew me away was that naming conventions can be used in a fictitious scenario also.

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Yeah.

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I never would have imagined that these people would have done something so insane as to

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stick to basic borderline universally standardized naming conventions.

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I'd listened to over an hour of this Saturday thing that they were doing and then Alex said

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that.

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And then Abdu brought up, oh, also, uh, they use some of the same hashtags and fake tweets

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that they have on there that people used in real life.

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I said, I gotta go.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Don't care.

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Nope.

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Throwing things.

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No.

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Immediate throwing of things.

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That means nothing.

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Immediate throwing of things.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, I got really excited because, um, you know, I think after our last present day

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episode I was, I was in the doldrums.

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I felt bad.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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It was a very weird, uh, defense of Matt Gaetz.

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And this was a promise of a primary source.

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And, and no, no, I mean, that's what we found eventually.

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Yeah, of course.

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But, but Jordan, I mean like we were, you know, we talked over the weekend and I was

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telling you, like, I really think that, you know, I, we've got to stay in the present

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for Sunday.

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I think Alex is probably going to have some, uh, some, something.

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Yeah.

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He's going to have something.

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I thought for sure this Matt Gaetz thing would continue.

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Because Matt Gaetz has had more information come out, it looks worse and worse.

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I thought that Alex would either have to double down and triple down or he'd have to cut bait.

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I didn't know what he was going to do.

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And so I was like, well, I think in the interest of keeping people up to date on the, the goings

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on of this, this, and then I dig in and here we are, we got, we got a new lockstep document.

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And it's nice because, you know, I think, I think sometimes one of the things I enjoy the most

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about doing this show is the opportunity to understand something like this document that's

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called, it causes such fear for people.

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Yeah.

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Like to be able to, to see this, uh, Freddy Krueger on paper and understand it for what

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it is and understand like some of the very interesting lessons that actually could have

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been learned and, and, and, you know, that, that people are doing these, these kinds of

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exercises that they probably did pay dividends.

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Like we probably didn't see enough of the lessons learned, but on a, on a granular level

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in terms of some people being able to better deal with the challenges that came up over

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the course of this, this pandemic, this probably helped a lot.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And I appreciate that.

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I like getting that glimpse.

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Yeah.

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It was a little bit like if, uh, Jamie Lee Curtis was running away from Michael Myers

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the whole time.

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And then at the end it was like, lady, I've been trying to deliver you this letter from

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15 years ago.

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You've been served.

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I've been hanging onto it.

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Yeah.

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That whole thing of just like, this was a complete waste of time for everyone involved.

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Why are we here?

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I honestly enjoy having my time wasted like this far more than I enjoy most of present

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day Alex Jones though.

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At least you're having fun running away from Michael Myers, you know, you're not just sitting

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at your home being like, this is a waste of time.

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I'm getting a jog in.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm getting some calories burning.

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Yeah.

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I'm getting that cardio.

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Yeah.

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It's good stuff.

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So thank you, Alex.

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I don't look forward to him constantly bringing up this document.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Uh, cause it's a big old zero.

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Yeah.

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Uh, but you know, Hey, whenever these things happen, it's often good for us to spend time

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looking at it before it gets too out of control.

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Too boring.

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Yeah.

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Cause I think, I think that this is something that definitely could have, could stand to

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have traction in other communities or conspiracy spaces.

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Possible.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully Tucker covers it.

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Yeah.

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That'd be funny.

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That would be funny.

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Oh boy.

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Anyway, we'll be back Jordan.

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Will we?

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Yeah, we will.

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But then we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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You bet.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledgefight.com.

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Go to bed Jordan.

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We're also on the fake social media app from the scenario unequal.

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We are on unequal.

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And if you'd like to tell us an equal, and if you could please find a local charity or

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bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now, we'll be back.

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But until then I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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So what do you think about them apples?

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.