Transcript/475: August 24-26, 2020

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I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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and your knowledge fight.

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I need money.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Stop it.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding me.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your room.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight dot com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are.

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I'm thrown off here.

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I mumbled my word a little bit because I had to mute our mics while the theme song was

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playing to tell you I hate yerba mate.

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I just had a new bright spot which is your fury at me drinking a yerba mate which I didn't

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even know what it was until I bought it five seconds ago.

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I'm not furious at you.

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You made a weird face when you drank out of that can.

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Well it tastes terrible.

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I was responding to you making that face and I was looking at the can.

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I didn't recognize the brand and then I saw yerba mate and I made a face at you all while

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the theme song is playing.

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All while we're doing this.

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Because we're fucking professionals.

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So I had to mute the mics and be like, I hate yerba mate.

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And you still didn't ruin the song.

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Yeah and I still came in and the only interruption was me needing to talk about how I silently

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told you I hate yerba mate.

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You could have passed it off like it never happened.

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Probably.

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Ah, we're doing great.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, hi.

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Hi Dan.

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Hey Jordan.

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Hey, quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today?

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Well, I have a lot of bright spots I feel lately have been a lot of plant-oriented stuff

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and I feel very self-conscious about that.

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But I've sort of freed myself from that and all bright spots are probably going to involve

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plants.

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From here on out.

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For sure, but for the foreseeable future.

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Since you were last here, I've installed, I found some pretty cheap netting.

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And I've installed on one of my walls here in the office a makeshift lattice.

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Yes, I see it.

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For vines.

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Because I've got a bean plant and it's growing.

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It's vining up.

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Yeah, it's vining up.

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It's growing pretty seriously to the point where if it didn't have something to crawl

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on.

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You might be in trouble.

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Well, the plant would be in trouble.

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I'd be fine.

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I just wouldn't end up with any beans.

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You've never been the subject of revenge by bean before.

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That's true.

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So I've put this up and I like it so much that I've decided that it's the season of

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the vine.

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I'm going to go crazy with covering all the walls that I can with vines.

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Everything that I can.

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Like, why not?

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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There's no reason not to.

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There's vines and plants all over the place.

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I can create basically a jungle.

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No, you are.

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But if I'm careful, it won't hurt the walls too much.

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Eventually, you're going to have to take a picture of this and put it out there just

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so people can see what I see.

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I wish they could have really seen the way that it's grown and how quickly it has.

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It's one of those time-lapse photography things of the Empire State Building.

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It's just so big now.

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Well, I'm getting really into it.

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It's a passion.

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I enjoy it.

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I've decided too that one of the ways that I'm going to try and get more involved in

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community stuff moving forward, once we're sort of more able to, is find a community

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garden.

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You want a community garden.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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Find one.

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Get a plot or two there.

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I don't know.

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I didn't look in prices or rent or anything like that.

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Get involved with that and try and donate whatever has grown to food insecurity.

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I think there's an open plot at the park right near where I live, so you might be able to

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...

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It's a little south.

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It's a little bit far.

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It's a little bit far.

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I know.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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That wouldn't be the worst thing ever.

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That's terrible.

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Nah.

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It'd be nice to have a little walk to do.

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Yeah.

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A 20-minute train ride.

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Yeah.

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I'm still in a bit of an experimental phase with a lot of the plants, but it brings me

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great joy to see these little seedlings coming up and then now... I mentioned before that

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the cucumbers have a lot of flowers on them.

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We've got some female flowers on one of the plants coming in, which will actually be cucumbers.

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Oh, yeah.

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Finally.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Those are really growing in now.

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I've never planted pepperoncinis that much, but I randomly planted some.

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We've got some flowers coming in on those.

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Well, you've got to plant something.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's exciting.

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That's where I'm at.

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I'm going crazy and having a good time.

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, I'm going to have to go with Cobra Kai on Netflix.

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My partner, she's about to go back to school, and she's freaking out.

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Teaching.

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Not like she's in high school.

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Teaching.

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No, no.

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She's not in high school anymore.

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She's about to start teaching remotely.

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Anymore seems like she just graduated.

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No, no.

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That's uncomfortable.

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No, she's teaching remotely, and she's really freaking out because there's no guidance from

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their union or the principals or anybody because nobody has any idea what's going on.

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Everybody's scrambling around, so she's staying up till 5 a.m. every night.

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Last night, this morning, all Cobra Kai, buddy.

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To this day, Ralph Macchio is the least imposing and graceful martial artist that's ever been

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on screen before.

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Yeah?

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It is really.

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He's a young, young cave.

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He has very tiny shoulders.

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He is the least threatening martial artist I've ever seen.

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Yeah, I think I agree with you.

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It's kind of the way he's supposed to be.

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He's the underdog.

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He's supposed to be the guy who's-

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He's the karate kid.

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Exactly.

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Now he's an adult who owns a dealership.

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It's a little bit different.

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What is this?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Do you remember the karate kid, Dan?

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I thought you were just talking about watching The Karate Kid.

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No, no, no, there's a TV series set 40 years after the events of The Karate Kid.

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I did not know this.

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And it's got the main characters back, the Cobra Kai guy, old, miserable, terrible, Karate

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Kid owns dealerships, kicking ass, and then we all learn who's the bad guy.

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And it's all of us along the way.

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I had no idea this existed.

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Yeah, it's great.

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Okay.

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It's really good.

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I won't watch it.

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You won't watch it.

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But it's really good.

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I appreciate knowing that it exists.

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I just want you to know.

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It's good.

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This is confrontational.

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Very tired.

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I was up for the last, like, days.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I believe you.

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This folks' episode.

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Little frazzled.

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All right.

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Why?

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Anything big happen?

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So today we're going to be going over the period of time from August 24th to August

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26th, 2020.

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I'm Dan.

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This is 2020.

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And I think that there's a lot of stuff going on during this time period that is particularly

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important and especially relevant vis-a-vis the world of Alex Jones.

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And so what it is is the timeframe of the day after Jacob Blake was shot by the police

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in Kenosha.

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And this will go through to the day after the shooting happened where two protesters

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were killed, another wounded, also in Kenosha.

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So taking a look at that time period, because I think that there's a lot of stuff that's

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been going around in the media about, I don't know about the media, but social media.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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I've seen plenty of tweets that got a lot of traction that were talking about Alex Jones

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inspiring this shooter who shot protesters.

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I saw a few references to Infowars and I was like, I'm going to wait until other people

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tell me.

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And I was a little bit interested in that and I wanted to pay particular focus to it.

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And not too surprisingly, it's a complicated issue and it's difficult and a large part

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of that is why we did not have an episode on Friday.

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Things were coming in really fast and I didn't feel like there was a responsible way that

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we could have made an episode.

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And simultaneously it didn't feel like I had it in me to do an episode about something

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else and not talk about the stuff that was happening.

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It was very difficult.

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I just couldn't imagine feeling and saying anything in any way appropriate.

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Anything would be inappropriate to me.

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The way I look at it is, even though we do a show where we create content that people

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listen to, sometimes it's more important that we ourselves end up listening, taking things

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in and absorbing.

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And that was kind of a state that I was in for a good couple days.

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I think it was wise.

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I think it probably works out for the best.

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So we'll get to this episode here in a second, but before we do, Jordan, we've got to take

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a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the

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show.

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That's a good idea.

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So first, Chris B. Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Chris.

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Thank you.

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Next, great name.

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Daniel B. Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Daniel.

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Thank you.

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Next, Gary M. Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Gary.

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Thank you.

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Next, Jonathan and then parentheses, a five iron frenzy fan, E. Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Jonathan.

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Thank you, Jonathan.

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Ginathon?

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I somehow got in the middle of saying five iron frenzy and Jonathan at the same time.

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My brain got mixed all up.

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Five iron frenzy holds up.

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Does it?

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I feel like that's a take that I have that I keep saying even though no one's arguing

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with me.

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Most people have no idea who they are.

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Christian Ska-bam.

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Yes.

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Anyway, Derek H. Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Derek.

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Thank you.

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Leanna R. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Leanna.

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Thank you.

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on elevated

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level.

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We appreciate that very much.

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So, Jason R. Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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And Sean D. Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Jason.

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And thank you so much, Sean.

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Yes.

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Thank you very much to the both of you.

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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support

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these gents, too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking

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the button that says support the show.

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We would appreciate it.

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We would be very grateful.

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Or you could take that generosity and, Jordan, what would you want to do with it?

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I would say you take that generosity, you put it in-

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By the way, every time I'm going to throw it to you-

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Now you're going to throw it to me until you can get an idea.

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Maybe you'll think of something and take it over.

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I was going to do-

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This is mine now.

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I was going to just sort of pimp it out to you every time.

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I'm fine with that.

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And see how long it took you to notice, but now I'm calling myself out on that.

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That's a terrible idea.

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I'd be bad at improv.

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All right.

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It would be?

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Yeah.

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Hey, look, I'm trying to force you into this scene, all right?

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Well, as my-

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I'm trying to make you accept a reality for our skit-

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As my teen improv coach, Matt Elfring, told me, if you are sitting down, you are always

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driving.

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That's true.

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So what you're going to do is you're going to take that generosity, you're going to put

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it in a paper bag, you're going to head to the park with a few of your friends, you're

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going to drink whatever is in that generosity, you're going to then take that to a urine

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donation center and give them the urine of your donation that they need.

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That's very nice.

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I think that's a good idea.

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The first time I went to a park to drink, me and my friends were so stupid.

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What we did is we had a bottle of red wine and a bottle of peppermint schnapps.

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And we ended up like, yeah, why don't we mix them?

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Yeah, why don't we put them in the same cup?

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Faster than ever.

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So gross.

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That's the worst thing I've ever heard.

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Yeah, so gross.

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Oh, that's delicious.

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So Jordan, real quick, before we get into the episode, I realized that I've been really

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slacking on something and maybe we can have a little bit of brightness before we get into

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this episode.

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Sure.

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So it is now time to check in with the year of the season.

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I was wondering when we were coming back.

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I think a lot of people probably forgot that it was going on or thought that I had forgotten

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it.

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And I want to say that one of the things that happened is that I ran into some walls.

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And so I wasn't drinking as much seltzer.

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I got a little bit depressed about seltzer.

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I tried to find a couple, like Jelly Belly has a line of seltzer.

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That sounds unreal, but please tell me more.

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And I wanted to order them.

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Of course you do.

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But they weren't available.

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How could they not be?

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I don't know.

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There's a number of things that I found that I thought were cool and I tried to order them

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and you can't.

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You just can't.

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There's a number of things that I don't even, I don't fucking know.

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I bet Jelly Belly made a hundred of those and everybody was like, why?

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And then they stopped.

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That makes sense to me.

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Like I got to go to the dark web to get Jelly Belly seltzer.

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Of course you got to go to the dark web.

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I'm not going to do it.

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Get some Crystal Pepsi next.

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Right.

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I think they do still make that.

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I think that's still available.

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Probably.

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Probably.

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So anyway, I decided to get back on the horse with the, the, the Fizzy Waters and we're

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now 226 seltzers.

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I got some Yerba Mate for you.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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Okay.

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I don't know if I told you.

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I have 226, which is pretty good.

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I'm great.

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Worried.

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I'm not going to make it to 500, even though we are still ahead of schedule.

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No, this is what I told you all the way back then I said, you got to push out in front

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because you're going to get into the doldrums of summer and you're going to get back into

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it.

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You've got the strength, Dan.

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I think that path appears to still be viable.

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So there were a couple of highlights here I want to say.

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First there was a San Pellegrino at a diamond edition.

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Oh yeah.

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I showed you the box.

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It was in a box and it was like $4?

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Like it's a bottle of fucking fancy champagne.

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John Perignon.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was $4 or $3.

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Something like that.

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It was just.

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I guessed like $15.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was good, plain Fizzy Water.

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I wanted to give it a one for its hubris.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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It was in a box.

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But I felt that wasn't fair.

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So I gave it a 66.

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Okay.

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And then the other thing I wanted to bring up, this definitely deserves a call out because

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I have been very anti-grapefruit and I've gotten a little bit of flack for it.

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I think grapefruit sucks.

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I think it's a bad flavor.

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Okay.

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All right.

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However, I tried the Limitless.

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That's a brand apparently.

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Okay.

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Grapefruit Hibiscus.

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Oh right.

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Very good.

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76 out of 100.

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76?

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Yeah.

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Man, you put hibiscus in something and you love it, Dan.

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Usually.

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You like a hibiscus?

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I do.

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I do.

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Maybe it's from my island roots.

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Could be.

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But yeah.

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And I think the grapefruit works really well with another flavor.

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I don't think it stands on its own well.

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It adds a nice little bite and it's bang to it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So if it's your secondary flavor, it gives you a smooth kind of bite.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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And I think that's what fresco works because it's a grapefruit lime.

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Oh yeah.

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You're probably right.

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Maybe I'm making that up.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Anyway.

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What's a squirt?

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What's a squirt made out of?

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Squirt's delicious.

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Squirt's delicious.

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I believe it.

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Canfield 50-50.

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Why not?

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So, Jordan.

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I want to take a quick little moment before we get started here to discuss not having

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an episode on Friday.

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I've already sort of danced around this a little bit.

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I think it's pretty self-explanatory for anybody who listens to the show why we didn't have

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an episode.

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Or at least the list of possibilities isn't very long.

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But I want to just explain exactly what's up here.

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I texted you about this on Thursday morning that I felt that I'd lost some degree of perspective.

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I couldn't really tell what direction was up and I was feeling completely lost.

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There were many things that were happening that felt really important.

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Not necessarily surprising, but horrifying.

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And I was finding myself unable to process anything in a manner that would make it possible

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for me to comment on it in a responsible way.

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There was the Kenosha police shooting of Jacob Blake on the early evening of Sunday, August

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23rd.

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There was the unrest that broke out that evening in response to the shooting, which included

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a fair amount of property damage.

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Then, on Tuesday, August 25th, a 17-year-old militia fascist shot and killed multiple protesters

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in Kenosha, despite the fact he lived in Illinois.

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Then, on Wednesday, August 26th, a homicide suspect in Minneapolis took his own life while

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being pursued by the police, which some mistook as a police shooting and led to a bit of looting.

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Though the police didn't shoot the guy, it's a testament how little trust is there with

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the public that they have in the police that the default position is to not trust them

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when they say they didn't shoot this person.

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In a move that I absolutely resent, the police released security camera footage of the man

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taking his own life and not knowing how explicit the video was, I watched it on Twitter, which

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fucked me up a bit.

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Then, on Thursday, there was the awareness of the imminent landfall of Hurricane Laura,

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which was looking particularly nasty as a storm.

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When it arrived in Louisiana, it was tied with a hurricane from 164 years ago for the

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title of strongest storm to ever arrive in that state.

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That's just one of the many records that are being broken this hurricane season as warmer

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waters precipitate the earlier and stronger formation of tropical storms and hurricanes.

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When it came time to record an episode for Friday, I realized that I had no productive

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thing to add to any of this conversation, and the only responsible thing was to wait,

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to calm down a little, listen, and try and regain some sense of this perspective.

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There was an added difficulty for me professionally, and that had to do with the 17-year-old shooter

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in Kenosha, and how there was immediate talk of how outlets like Alex Jones were encouraging

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this kind of violence in the days leading up to the attack.

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Very quickly, there were tweets talking about how Infowars had an article up promoting the

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militia that was in Kenosha and involved with the shooting, although in fairness, they did

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forget to point out that this was an article posted elsewhere that Alex had just reposted

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on Infowars.

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Still bad, but also lazy.

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Screenshots were posted of that militia trying to legitimize themselves by pointing to that

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Infowars article as proof of their credibility.

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And then, on August 28th, Media Matters released an article with the headline, quote, Alex

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Jones encouraged vigilante violence in the days before a gunman killed Kenosha protesters.

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This article is fine upon analysis, but it also is incredibly limited in its scope.

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This article only touches on a couple of comments that Alex made in the previous week and a

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couple of posts on Infowars, which misses the reality that what happened, an armed extremist

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killing protesters probably believing that they're doing so to save the country, is the

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ultimate conclusion of a long-running campaign on Alex's show.

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This is where things get really complicated for me, because there's still a lot that's

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unclear and it limits my ability to make as strong a claim as I would like to.

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At the point that we're recording this, it remains unknown if the shooter listened to

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Alex Jones' show, so it's difficult for me to say in any legally meaningful way that

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Alex directly contributed to this tragedy at all.

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I struggled with that, because this was one of the points where my ability to retain perspective

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was really being challenged.

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It feels like Alex helped inspire this terrorist attack, and my immediate reaction was sort

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of alternating between thoughts of how this was a pretty predictable eventuality and how

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disheartening it is to realize that Alex was far from the only outlet from which the shooter

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could have been getting the messages he was getting.

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I can't say with certainty if this guy was an Alex fan, but I want to lay out here how

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if I do learn that he was, it won't surprise me at all, and how Alex's show has been trying

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to inspire a violent act like this for months, which is a lot of the context I feel is missing

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from the articles and outlets like Media Matters about Alex and this shooting.

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For months now, we've heard Alex ramping up his calls for violence against left-leaning

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protesters.

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We've heard him ramble about how vengeance belongs to God, but the answer to that riddle,

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which I didn't realize was a riddle, is that you, one of Alex's listeners, might be meant

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to be the instrument of God's vengeance.

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In fact, here's him saying exactly that.

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You know, vengeance is God's.

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Vengeance is God's.

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But God has instruments of vengeance.

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That's always the twist to the riddle.

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And so the globalists expect to try to terrorize us.

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We're not one of these poor kids who got strung out in one of your dungeons.

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We're going to terrorize you.

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That was an older clip from last April, but if you pay close attention to Alex like I

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do, you'll know this is a theme that he brings up on a pretty regular basis.

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For instance, here's him discussing how his listeners could be a tool that God uses to

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bring vengeance from his June 30th, 2020 episode of the broadcast.

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God is the will of the universe.

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God is consciousness.

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God is the almighty.

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And so vengeance is God's.

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But how does God deliver vengeance?

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Well, God delivers vengeance through us.

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But you got to be real careful that you're actually following God's plan and you'll know

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when it's time for vengeance.

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So there's a divine importance to the possibility of you committing violent acts against Alex's

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perceived enemies, and you'll know when it's right for you to act.

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God will tell you when, which could be better understood as Alex saying that if you feel

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strongly enough to act, you should rationalize that that's God's voice telling you to kill

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people.

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The essential thing that's very difficult for people to wrap their heads around is that

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shows like Alex's are not about politics in any meaningful sense.

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They're fascist cult religious programming, where the host will devolve into long drawn

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out rants about the literal Christian devil being in charge of the globalists who are

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running the Democratic Party and also all of the Republicans who don't blindly follow

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Trump and everything he says.

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This is critical to understand because it's not always been this way.

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There's been a religious undertone to Alex's show for a long time, but in its current state,

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it's just basically authoritarian brainwashing in radio form, using religious ideas as a

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way to heighten the stakes of the need for the authoritarian regime to solidify its power.

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Alex wants a dictatorship and knows that that's a bad argument, so the only way you make it

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is to justify that a dictatorship which surrounds white identity is better than the literal

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Christian devil, so we should all go with the white identity dictatorship.

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Most of the rest of his show is kind of just window dressing, like Alex interviewing an

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idiot or reporting on a headline he knows will anger or scare his audience enough to

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buy the dumb pills.

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The heightening to religious terms also justifies whatever actions you, the listeners, might

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take.

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If you're up against a literal Christian devil, really, is it so bad if you kill someone?

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What if you're able to convince yourself that the person you're killing is an agent of the

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same literal Christian devil?

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In that case, it would seem like it would be morally wrong not to kill them.

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I mean, God might even tell you to do it.

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And I believe in you, you're going to figure out ways to take action against it in a legal

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and lawful way.

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But when the globalists become totally lawless, there is no more law.

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And I just become sick to my stomach now thinking that my mind has to begin looking into other

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avenues.

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And a lot of other people are looking into those avenues.

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They've been asking me what paths could be gone down and all I can say is seek God's

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face and God will lead God and direct us down those roads if need be.

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An essential piece of the project that you need to be doing when you're Alex and you're

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playing this game is the dehumanization of people you want violence to be carried out

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against.

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This takes many forms because there are many aspects to how you see someone as a person.

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Each of us is multifaceted and we have a number of different forms of rights that apply to

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different aspects of our lives.

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One element is the rights that you have as the citizen of a country.

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There are certain things the government cannot do to you, like how unidentified agents were

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kidnapping protesters in Portland back in July and detaining them in unmarked vans.

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This is a completely unacceptable treatment of people, but if it's being done to a group

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that you want to dehumanize, then you need to justify that, which Alex did on his July

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9th show.

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They're asking, well, who are these men?

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A lot of them are federal marshals, but most of them are U.S. military attached to the

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hostage rescue team.

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So it's the military and that's why you're getting grabbed and why they're driving you

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off.

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And then you're getting interrogated because you work for a foreign power.

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You work with a chai comm globalist, literally trying to burn the country down, destroy the

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stock market and bankrupt the economy.

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You're a bad person.

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You're a military operative.

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You're an enemy combatant.

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You're not an American citizen.

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You said no borders, no wall, no USA at all.

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Alex has made the warrantless detention and kidnapping of left-wing protesters okay because

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he believes that their political opinions and positions make them not Americans and

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in fact enemy combatants.

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Alex spent years of his career yelling about the Patriot Act and now he wants the very

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sort of thing that was enabled to be used on his imagined enemies because he's decided

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that they're enemy combatants and they don't have rights that people enjoy in this country.

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That is in effect arguing that the left-wing protesters that you see are of a separate

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class of people from the rest of the country and they're essentially an invading army.

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If they're an invading army of enemy combatants then you shouldn't be too concerned about

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what happens to them.

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This dehumanization has another level to it where the argument becomes that these aren't

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even really people.

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On the July 10th show, Owen Troyer explicitly makes this argument equating protesters to

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quote obstacles to freedom.

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You can say there's enemies of freedom but that's not to me the correct psychological

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approach because I don't sit here and see them as my enemy.

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I don't see them as an enemy of freedom.

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I think if you ask them they want to be free too just like anybody else but what they've

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become unwittingly is obstacles of freedom.

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They have become obstacles of freedom and as soon as Americans in mass are willing to

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fight for their freedom, like you said Alex, it's a trap.

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You're now an obstacle.

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You're going to get run over.

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Use the cars running these people over in the streets as a physical example.

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The opposition is not a person with a political philosophy or simply a different set of priorities

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to yours.

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They're obstacles to freedom.

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Obstacles aren't people.

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They're things.

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There's only one party in this equation that has any agency or political will and it's

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Alex and Owen's side.

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They know what freedom is.

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They know they're right about everything to the point where they see people who disagree

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as little more than traffic cones on the road to some idealized state of freedom they

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imagine they're on.

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This is pretty consistent as a mentality on Alex's show.

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The people who have passionate political beliefs that are counter to his are just idiots who

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the globalists have tricked into opposing Alex's perfect ideology of freedom.

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This is, at its core, a convenient and cowardly way for Alex to yell about people who believe

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things he doesn't like without having to really explain his problems with their beliefs or

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argue them in any meaningful way.

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He does this primarily because he can't argue for his positions and if he tried it would

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quickly devolve into blatant white identity talking points and the game would be up really

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fast.

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Along with dehumanization, another tactic that's important to use when you're looking

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to encourage violence against a group you don't like is to massively exaggerate and

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mischaracterize your opposition.

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When the autonomous zone in Seattle was set up, Alex engaged in some pretty racist and

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comical behavior in this vein when he discussed Seattle activist Raz Simone.

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Seattle now, a large part of the city, is controlled by a self-described African warlord

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and it's being endorsed by the left as a wonderful new thing and there's videos of him running

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around.

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We go to his YouTube channel to show folks this guy, running around beating people up

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calling himself and his armed goons the police department.

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The area affected by the autonomous zone is exaggerated to sound like it's most of a major

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US city and the state of affairs is misrepresented to being that the area is under the control

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of an African warlord.

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This is obviously meant to paint a particular sort of picture in the audience's mind, one

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that helps them justify responding to left-wing protest with violence.

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There were protests in Seattle and what grew out of that was the city being ruled over

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by a violent African warlord.

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So if there are protests in your city, that's a possible outcome if you let these leftists

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have their way.

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At the end of July, Alex engaged in his behavior in a particularly flamboyant fashion when

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he claimed that MS-13 Chinese liberal hit teams were being sent out to get all the conservatives,

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which by my count, did not happen.

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But it's totally confirmed now, Soros, Deep State, Obama-controlled, Hillary-controlled,

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Antifa will be the decoys.

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The distraction systems for real hit teams preparing to try to decapitate the leadership

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of the pro-human, pro-American movement, whether you're a corporate person, an academic, in

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finance, in government, in the military, you're targeted for death.

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And they may launch the attack next week or they may launch it during the last days of

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the election, they may launch it after, but they have the safety off, the finger on the

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trigger, MS-13 hit squads, Chicom hit squads, everybody.

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And they're getting ready to totally overthrow everything and they're coming to kill you

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and your family.

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So be ready.

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Lock and load, ladies and gentlemen.

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Oh, I guess it still could be coming.

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This is a nonsensical claim that Alex is reporting has totally confirmed that these hit teams

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are going to show up and kill conservatives.

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The way Alex uses language is actually really insidious though, since he seems to be talking

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about conservative leaders being targeted, but ultimately he ends up by saying that they're

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going to come kill you and your family.

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This is a personalization of the exaggerated threat, which is meant to make the audience

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feel a sense of impending doom that they need to take action against.

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Another example of this outrageous and embarrassing style of exaggerating your perceived enemy's

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actions in order to rile people up into hurting them was what Alex did over the weekend of

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July 31st to August 2nd.

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He took some erroneous and bogus information and used it repeatedly to tell his audience

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that Antifa was planning to burn down police stations around the country that weekend.

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Because this is the time for all good men and women to come to the end of their country.

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And so wherever you are around the country, but if you're in Milwaukee or you're in Austin,

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Texas, or you're in Phoenix, Arizona, or you are in Los Angeles, California, or you're

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in New York City, or you're in Miami, these are some of the towns that Antifa says they're

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going to take over the police stations and burn them down Saturday night.

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And as you've seen, they've done it all over the country.

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So you should probably take them at their word.

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Past behavior is the most indicative of future behavior.

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Past performance is the most indicative of future behavior.

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This is a ridiculous narrative.

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And of course the prophesied attacks never came.

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But Alex's information came from a Boogaloo Facebook group that he was pretending was

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Antifa, but let's not get lost in the weeds.

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The idea of a coordinated attack on police stations around the country is very serious.

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That kind of thing would require some kind of organizational centralization, and that's

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the implied message of a stupid narrative like this one that Alex is pushing.

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It's less important whether or not the attacks actually come.

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An important goal is just getting the audience to subconsciously accept that his perceived

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enemies could coordinate attacks on police stations around the country, because if they

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accept that notion, they have to accept that the other side is basically an army.

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It's all one, coordinated, marching together.

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That clip also highlights another important aspect of inciting violence against a group

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you want to target, and that's making the listener feel responsible to do something.

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You've created the feeling of impending doom, and that you feel a need to act against it.

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Now it's being expressed that it's your responsibility to do something.

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Alex is directly calling for people in those cities that he names to do something to stand

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up to this hyper-exaggerated fear about Antifa attacking police stations in their city.

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There is a responsibility to stop these left-wing protesters, but it also is a problem for Alex

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that it might not be legal to do the things that need to be done to do that.

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This is actually something Alex explicitly recognizes, and does discuss on the show.

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They just keep escalating and escalating, and I don't see a way, legally and lawfully,

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because things are so paralyzed, to stop the left.

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And I get what you're saying, don't interrupt your enemy while they're destroying themselves.

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But at a certain point, there's a responsibility to stop them.

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So when you assign a responsibility to someone, what you're saying is that it's wrong for

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you to not do this thing.

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It's not that the thing you're saying, you know, that you're suggesting is a right thing

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to do.

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It's that inaction is itself a wrong thing to do.

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There's something that must be done.

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It's your responsibility.

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This type of thinking can go very wrong when the things that you suggest your audience

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do are really fucked up.

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For instance, there was the July 28th episode of his show where Alex suggested that his

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audience make kill lists of protesters.

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I mean, I don't even want to kill these globalists, but if they want to kill us, the best thing

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to do in a defensive way is kill as many of them as quickly as possible.

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And again, the media will misquote that I don't want to offensively kill anybody, but

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I'm not going to take this, okay.

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And I always want everybody like Santa Claus to take down names while we're here, 90 something

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days out.

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And just think about the future.

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If they take down your country, they destroy your bank account, they murdered a bunch of

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patriot leaders.

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What are you going to do?

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Because you always talked about when the new world order came in and when the UN did this,

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you were going to go out and shoot folks in blue helmets.

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They don't wear blue helmets.

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They show up in black uniforms and burn down your local courthouse and overthrow your government

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and run your life.

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That really speaks for itself.

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Alex is telling his audience to make lists of protesters because he believes them to

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be the real foot soldiers of the globalist invasion, which had long been visualized as

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UN troops showing up with blue helmets.

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That's pretty outrageous, but probably not as bad as what Alex said on his July 8th show

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when he started to advance the idea that possibly someone would need to sacrifice themselves

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to take out globalists.

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We have to get control of our governments.

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We have to reverse the technocracy plan, the posthuman plan, and if governments won't do

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it, we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and

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take one for the team.

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I don't want to go there, but we can't just sit here and let these people do it.

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The leadership of the globalist operation must be dealt with.

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That's not something that Alex only brought up once.

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He's mentioned the possibility that someone in the audience may need to essentially commit

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a suicide attack in order to take out the supposed globalist leadership.

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The jumping back and forth between talking about globalist leadership and protesters,

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that's an intentional thing on Alex's part.

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He wants the audience to essentially see them as the same thing without having to constantly

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talk about killing average citizens.

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Obviously convincing someone that they should carry out a kamikaze attack against Alex's

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imaginary enemies, that's a tough sell, which is where the importance of the religious aspect

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of this show comes back into play.

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In order for someone to really consider the idea of giving up their life in order to take

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out a supposed political target, you really need to amplify the struggle.

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There needs to be religious significance to carrying out Alex's wishes, and there also

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needs to be an underpinning of guilt.

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There needs to be some kind of way in which this is your fault, dear listener, that we're

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even in this situation, which is something that Alex actually does express quite a bit.

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So I will warn all of you watching and all of you listening, we have committed crimes

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against God, we have committed crimes against the children.

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We are going to be judged, this planet is going to be burned to a crisp.

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You better get right with God now, and you better start fearing the engineer that built

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the universe instead of bowing down to these midget demons.

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We have been warned.

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The world is sinned against God by embracing things like abortion and diversity, and so

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Alex says it will burn.

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But if you struggle against the literal Christian devil, there's still a fight that you can

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be a part of.

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If the world's going to burn and it's your fault for letting things get to this point,

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maybe you can redeem yourself by killing the literal Christian devil's minions or something.

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Most people are not comfortable with the idea of killing or even assaulting other people.

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Generally, most people are violence in confrontation averse, mostly because adults realize that

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we don't want violence being directed at us, so unless it's necessary or in response to

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other violence, it's wrong for us to initiate it.

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Even Alex recognizes this, so in order to convince his audience that in fact violence

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against groups he wants hurt is okay, he acknowledges that offensive violence is wrong, but also

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redefines any violence carried out by his side to be defensive in nature.

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We've just gone too far, we've gone too far putting up with this politically.

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And I'm not saying we should offensively get violent, but my brain and my genes, my cells

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are saying, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, I mean, they're killing us.

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Bill Gates is coming with a weapon to kill us slowly and laugh about it.

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These things that Alex is doing and the way he's engaging with his audience almost appear

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to be designed to help listeners overcome any nagging doubts they have about hurting

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people they disagree with politically.

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God says vengeance is mine, but hey, you might be a tool of God's vengeance.

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Violence against protesters is wrong, but it's fine because they're actually enemy combatants,

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and when you think about it, they're basically just obstacles to freedom.

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If you don't fight them, your city's gonna end up ruled by an African warlord, hit teams

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are gonna kill you and your family, and Antifa's gonna burn down all the police stations.

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Therefore, it's your responsibility to fight back, and there may not be a legal way to

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do that.

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You have to create kill lists to protesters, and someone might have to take one for the

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team and sacrifice themselves to take out some globalist leaders.

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And if this sounds severe, it is.

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But it's only severe because we've sinned against God, so we deserve to be fighting

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a group of people who work for the literal Christian devil.

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They wanna make vaccines, which is basically the same thing as killing everyone, so when

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you really think about it, any violence you do to those people who support things like

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vaccines, that's defensive.

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So they actually deserve it.

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This is an argument and justification for committing violent acts up to murder against

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people who are protesting for political policies that you disagree with, which is taken entirely

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from Alex's stated positions and things he's said not once but repeatedly.

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If you're a person listening to this bullshit show and you're of an impressionable age,

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it would not surprise me at all if you thought you might need to kill protesters in America

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in order to save the country.

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The final aspect of how Alex's show operates in a way to encourage violence against his

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enemies has to do with what happens after the act of violence has happened.

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When Garrett Foster, the protester in Austin, was shot and killed, details of the shooting

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were fudged in order to make it a simple self-defense situation.

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One man who kept doing this in front of police headquarters, in front of the city council,

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was shot dead last weekend when he pulled a gun on a man in his car while they had it

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blocked off and the man was pointing an AK-47 at the innocent citizen.

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They still don't know the man's name who turned himself into police and was released.

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Probably not white is the reason that they're not releasing the information they want to

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make about race war.

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Alex is even able to throw in some baseless race baiting in there for good measure.

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Yeah, you gotta put it in there.

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And other times we've seen this in the past, Alex has also done the, it was a false flag

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shooting.

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Sure.

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He's not pulled that as much.

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These clips that are for this are all from June till now.

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Right, right, right.

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And he hasn't done that with a lot of these more recent acts.

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Well, the false flag is tough because part of them wants to be like, look at these heroes.

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And then the other part of them wants to be like, whoa, we didn't have anything to do

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with that.

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So the easier thing for him to do is try and fine line that type of thing.

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Yeah.

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I think that he feels he has the optics that are necessary because there are protests that

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a lot of his audience are scared of that he can play the self-defense card a lot more

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than he could in other situations where there were right wing terrorists who shot up a bunch

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of people.

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Why do the false flag?

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Right.

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So Alex even acts his way surrounding a much lower profile acts of violence.

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Like when he spent part of his show on June 2nd celebrating how his son Rex beat up an

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alleged looter at a convenience store.

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I just learned before I went live that my son was going to visit my parents and there

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was looters in the store attacking people and he, and he had to kick their ass and we've

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got that dramatic footage.

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I've had, it's unbelievable.

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It looks like a movie.

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These acts of violence that are carried out are celebrated and rationalized in a way that

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I refuse to believe is accidental.

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No, absolutely not.

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I believe it's part of whether it's subconscious or conscious, it's part of the pattern that

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he operates in.

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Alex consistently acts in ways that facilitate, argue for, and justify acts of violence against

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people he disagrees with politically.

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And it doesn't feel inaccurate for me to say that the way he acts seems designed to prompt

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a listener to take what he's saying, you know, if they take what he's saying seriously, they

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go out and hurt somebody that Alex wants hurt.

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And one of the reasons that I just can't accept that he doesn't know what he's doing is because

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Alex has discussed this very behavior in the past.

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When he was talking about Phil Mudd saying things about Trump that Alex took as a threat

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on television, Alex described Mudd's behavior as essentially being stochastic terrorism.

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And when Mudd went on TV and said, we will kill this guy, the CIA will kill this guy,

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the government's going to kill this guy, that was done to telegraph confidence to their

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networks embedded in the government that they were trying to get other people to create

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false whistleblower reports, to leak information to the media, and to then finally get somebody

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else to muster up the courage to poison the president, to shoot the president, to kill

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the president.

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That's what this is, is agitating to hope somebody else does it.

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From that clip, we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alex fully understands that someone

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saying something on a public platform can have the effect of inspiring someone listening

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to do something bad, and that can be a strategy that someone employs.

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I don't agree with him that Phil Mudd was doing that, but what's far more important

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is the accusation proves awareness.

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If you're aware of this tendency or this strategy someone could use, then you have a greater

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responsibility for your actions.

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Alex has no excuse to act the way he has in the past few months if he's aware that someone

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saying things like the things he's saying on his radio show can have the effect of inspiring

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someone listening to enact violence.

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He has a responsibility to convey his messages in more careful and safe manners, and if he

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refuses to do so, it strongly implies to me that the ultimate result of violence against

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his political enemies is a desired outcome for him.

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After that, or despite knowing that his words could incite someone to violence, Alex is

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literally incapable of stopping himself from acting in ways that would make that more likely.

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And if that's the case, he's just as condemnable for not removing himself from the airwaves

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where he's able to have that effect on people.

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None of this is to say that the shooter in Kenosha definitely listened to Alex's show

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and was inspired to his act from that.

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I don't know that, and it might not be the case, it might be the case, I have no idea.

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I can't prove it either way, but I'm not positive that it's even the most important point.

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Alex is part of a media ecosystem that operates in the same way he does.

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Some independent QAnon weirdos incite violence much more than him, or attempt to.

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Some giant names like Tucker Carlson engage in slightly stealthier incitement, generally

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by justifying acts of right-wing terrorism after the fact.

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That said, I'm not sure that there's anyone who's larger than Alex who's as explicit and

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overt about his stochastic terrorism tendencies.

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Whether or not this shooter was a fan of Alex, what happened in Kenosha is exactly the effect

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you'd expect to see from the way Alex behaves.

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And I'd be very surprised if we don't see more of this outcome, I see it as a possibility.

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So I don't know, I'm sorry about that long chunk there.

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Absolutely not.

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Do not apologize.

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That's called being thorough.

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But how dare you do your job well, you bastard.

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Well, more of the apology was that you had to sit there.

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I could have gone to the bathroom, that's true.

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That is true.

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That is true.

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It would have been slightly uncomfortable.

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It would have been weirder, yes.

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I really had to sit with this for quite a while to really figure out what the thought

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I had on all the talk around Alex, because so much of this was about Alex posted this

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article about the militia in Kenosha, and yeah, he reposted someone else's article.

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There's a chance Alex himself didn't even know that article got reposted.

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I don't know, his editorial hands-on-ness is probably nonexistent.

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So I could see it as entirely possible that he didn't even know that anyone posted that,

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had no idea.

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Now, so it's really hard to trace a direct line between anything, and I think some people

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are trying to do that.

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I see some Twitter accounts that are trying to make that argument, and I understand.

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I get it.

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I understand why.

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I just think, and I know, I know, it's all this dumb shit about like, yes, this is what

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I look at all the time, so I'm aware of it more, but I just think that expanding it out

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a little bit allows for more of an understanding of like, it doesn't matter if Alex had any

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legitimate, direct connection with this individual shooter.

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Look at what he's doing.

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It is the behavior that would predicate something like this.

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What I am struggling with is just the massive forest for the trees situation that we're

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dealing with here, which is that I don't care if it was Alex Jones who wrote it up and suggested

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everybody go to it.

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What we're in is a media system that Alex has helped popularize and propagate that created

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an entirely false reality for 40% of the country.

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Whether or not it's Alex, or it's fucking Zero Hedge, or it's Red Ice Radio, or any

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of these people, they're all part of the thing that is cultivating fear and using it to create

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chaos, and that chaos is going to make the order of fascism seem more palatable.

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That's the entire idea, and it is not Alex.

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It is Tucker.

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It is Fox News.

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It is all of these people working in concert.

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It's a thousand social media influencer accounts that you can't even think of.

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You didn't even know.

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You may not even know they exist.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's a little bit like when they do studies on childhood development, and it's like the

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parents have less impact upon a lot of growth than the social peers do.

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The media like Fox News and that stuff is, a lot of the times now, you're parents, and

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what's more effective is going to be those Twitter campaigns, those Facebook fucking

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viral posts and memes and all that shit.

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Yeah, I mean it's really easy to internalize information from social media without checking

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any of it, and it can completely distort your understanding of things.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't have a solution, but-

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I mean when you think about it, who's killed more cops in the past 10 years?

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Probably sovereign citizens.

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Exactly.

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Or is it that cops themselves have been brainwashed into thinking that those dum-dums are on their

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team?

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I'm not sure if it's actually sovereign citizens.

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I don't know the stats on it, but they do end up killing some cops.

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Yeah, they kill a lot of cops.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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It's a mess.

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Yeah.

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So I wanted to take a look at this time span from the day after Jacob Blake's shooting,

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covering through the ensuing protests and wrapping up the day after when Alex knows

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about the shooting of the protesters.

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Because I was interested to see if there was a compelling argument to be made from his

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work over those days that he was doing something that would incite someone to leave Illinois-

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Him specifically.

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Yeah.

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Because if there is, then that's much stronger than the things that were being posted in

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Media Matters and on these social media accounts that were saying, like, he posted this article

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and he said a couple of things.

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So we're going to take a look and we'll see.

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We'll see what the conclusion we come to is.

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I suppose my issue with that, before we go any further, is a, I think, kind of fundamental

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misunderstanding of Alex's ideas here.

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He doesn't care if one person goes to one protest.

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The whole idea is a shotgun approach.

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Every protest should have one of those people who might go off.

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He doesn't care about Kenosha or Portland or wherever.

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Certainly not.

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The point is, I'm trying to inspire somebody somewhere.

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Why would I give a shit about if it's Kenosha or not, you know?

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True, true.

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But based on the fact that there were outbreaks of protests-

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For sure.

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That would be sort of a moth to the flame.

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Totally.

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Attract his attention.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Eliminarily.

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And now we're going to-

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So one thing I should point out is that Shadowgate does not come up.

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It doesn't?

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No.

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The water of waters is out?

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I was trying to lighten the mood.

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Oh, god damn.

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Unsuccessfully.

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Ah, you were doing great.

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So here's how we start on August 24th.

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Red alert.

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Red alert.

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Red alert.

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70 days out from the election to overshadow the Republican National Convention that Trump

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is going to speak every night at.

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The deep state has launched even more intense riots, police being shot at, knocked to the

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head with bricks, car dealerships being burned down, businesses that have Black Lives Matter

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signs being torched.

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This is the globalist program of total destruction, but the people are waking up and the truth

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is getting out.

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So I think Alex is trolling us by starting a show with a red alert.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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That sounds right.

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Come on, man.

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Obviously, Alex has no idea what's going on in Kenosha, nor does he even open this episode

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appearing aware that that is where protests are happening.

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He further doesn't seem to be aware of the inciting incident of the protests, but that

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could also be an instance of convenient ignorance on his part.

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One thing that I find very interesting is how Alex is painting a picture of complete

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bedlam and using it for his purposes, when in reality, the situation is for the people

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experiencing it to decide how it should be used.

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What I mean is basically this, if you punch me in the face and I immediately forgive you

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and were able to grow through that experience, no third party really has the right to use

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you hitting me for their own ends.

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Someone could report that you hit me, but the fact that I didn't experience it as you

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being evil or violent and the fact that we were able to get past it, that negates a lot

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of the negatives that someone might think about you after the fact.

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You would think.

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What I'm getting at is that Alex is saying that this car dealership was burned and that's

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fair enough.

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That is a statement of fact, but there's more details that are important.

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For instance, ABC 12 in Wisconsin reported that after the fires caused damage at these

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businesses, one of the shop owners that was affected named Mary Locey said, quote, I can't

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blame people for being angry and to be honest with you, I'm more concerned for the man fighting

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for his life.

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We had some damaged windows, we'll be okay.

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As for the actual car dealership, the owners of that might not have been too worried about

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the damage either.

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According to a tweet posted by BBC's Alim Makhbul, he spoke to the owner who claimed

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that they were looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, quote, but if it actually

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gets justice, sure, burn it 20 times.

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I can't find that being reported anywhere else, but this is a professional journalist

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reporting on a first-hand conversation with a picture of the owner speaking to him, so

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that'd be a really wild thing to fake or embellish.

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Yeah, but you don't want that getting around.

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It seems like that kind of misreporting could blow up really fast if this guy, Makhbul,

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was just making up this quote.

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Yeah, that would be a lightning rod for a lot of people.

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There's like a hundred right-wing outlets that would happily amplify this owner saying

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that the BBC had lied about him.

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Yeah, the glee with which all media would cover that compared to the collective shrug

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of a business owner being like, I would prefer justice.

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They're like, property damage is wrong.

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This mentality that this guy has is not universal, and I'm sure there are some business owners

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who are pissed off and are taking this very personally, but it does seem like the focus

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of the coverage of stories like this always tends to prioritize that and ignore people

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who are just as much victims of property destruction who understand that human lives are always

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more important than money or things.

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The thing that makes this tidbit particularly glaring is the optics of the car dealership

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burning in the early morning hours of August 24th were front and center in the media's

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coverage of the protests that have broken out.

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The image of the cars burning were the central focus to drive up the fear of the rampaging

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mob, so it kind of makes sense that if that's the centerpiece of the coverage, it's relevant

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to point out that the owner may take a much broader view of social unrest than is easy

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to report.

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Yeah, I don't think people would be as emotionally aggravated by a picture of a burnt out car

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dealership with the owner standing in front of it giving two big thumbs up like, come

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on guys!

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Let's go do it!

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Yeah.

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The owner of a burnt out building says, next building!

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Come on guys!

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Also, this is a small point, but the talking point that this car dealership had a sign

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up that said Black Lives Matter is meant to instill fear in Alex's audience.

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It shows that these people are just out to destroy, they don't even care if you support

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their cause.

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They don't cannibalize anyone!

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Yeah.

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This trivia piece was repeated far and wide, but I saw some pictures of the fire that were

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posted on LawOfficer.com, and if you look at the sign people are talking about, it's

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clear that it's not the dealership sign.

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It's a marquee for the Bradford Community Unitarian Universalist Church, which is next

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door.

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This is a trivial point, and I'm not necessarily concerned with whether or not a business had

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a sign on it.

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I only bring this up to highlight that Alex doesn't do any work, because he doesn't care.

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No one cares.

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No.

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It's hard to care, and it's easier to live in a corporate dystopia, apparently.

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So for the first six minutes of every hour, generally, Alex will play a special report.

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He doesn't do that, because it's not on most radio stations.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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They do the station identification, top-of-the-hour news.

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So why bother?

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News and traffic.

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And so he plays a, I usually skip past it, because it's usually someone who does terrible

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voiceover and I just can't handle it.

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But I don't know why I stuck around to this day just to see, eh, what are they doing?

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And it turns out it was Jon Bowne.

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Sure.

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Remember back when he said Jon Bowne had a good voice?

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There were days.

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We were young once.

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There were days.

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This Jon Bowne report sounds incredibly bad in hindsight, knowing now what happened in

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the early morning hours of August 26th, when that gunman who comes down from Illinois shot

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and killed multiple protesters in Kenosha.

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Yeah, it doesn't sound good.

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In that report, Bowne plays audio of a veteran named Carlos Zapata from Redding, California.

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Zapata spoke at a Shasta County Board of Supervisors meeting, and it was the closest thing to a

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threat of street violence I've heard.

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Ironic to see Zapata supporting a fascist regime.

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Yeah.

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That is a little...

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It is a little twist.

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That is a little twist.

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He was pissed about COVID-19 restrictions, and it was a mess.

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Here's a little section of his rant, which also includes a weird phone notification sound

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effect that's in the original video, but I wanted to point it out because it's a little

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distracting.

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And I'm telling you right now, that right now we're being peaceful.

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And you better be happy that we're good citizens, that we're peaceful citizens.

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But it's not going to be peaceful much longer, okay?

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And this isn't a threat.

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I'm not a criminal.

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I've never been a criminal.

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But I'm telling you, good citizens are going to turn into real concerned and revolutionary

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citizens real soon.

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And nobody else is going to say that.

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I'm probably the only person that has a boss say what I'm saying right now.

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That we're building, we're organizing, and we'll work with law enforcement or without

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law enforcement.

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But you won't stop us when time comes because our families are starving.

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If you don't hear the seriousness of my voice, I hope you open your ears and you absolutely

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listen to what I'm saying.

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Because this is a warning for what's coming.

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It's not going to be peaceful much longer.

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It's not going to be rah rah.

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It's not going to be speeches.

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It's not going to be going outside saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

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It's not going to be waving flags.

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It's going to be real.

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When you've seen the things that I've seen, I went to war for this country.

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I've seen the ugliest, dirtiest part of humanity.

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I've been in combat.

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And I never wanted to go back again.

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But I'm telling you what, I will to save this country.

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If it has to be against our own citizens, it will happen.

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And there's a million people like me, and you won't stop us.

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That shit is unhinged.

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And it depicts a person who's saying that if the country doesn't agree to ignore public

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health measures, then people like himself will be willing to engage in open combat against

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their fellow citizens.

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I've seen the ugliest of humanity and I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it.

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It's terrifying when you look at it, but I'm going to be honest, when that video first

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came to my attention, I didn't really think much of it.

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On Alex's show on August 19th, he plays that video multiple, multiple times, and I'm sorry

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that I experienced it as something that just faded into background noise.

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In the past few months, as we went over at the beginning of this episode, I've tried

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to make a point of Alex's increasing trend towards clearly trying to incite violence,

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and honestly, it's become hard for me to tell when something is me sounding like a broken

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record.

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I'll often not bring up things that I've talked about a ton unless there's an evolution or

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a shift in the narrative.

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And to be fair, on the 19th, we were pretty focused on Shadowgate.

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There was a little bit of Shadowgate going on.

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Everybody who listens to the show must read the news about Alex and be like, guys, he

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has been screaming about how we should be killing everybody every single day for four

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months.

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What are you talking about?

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He posted an article on Friday.

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We've been doing this for years now.

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I mean, I grant that it's unfortunate timing that there was a shooting of protesters in

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a very close proximity to Alex posting an article that endorses this militia that was

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there.

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Sure, sure.

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That is unfortunate timing.

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Yeah.

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That's not good.

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Yeah.

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So with this video of the guy at the meeting, the thing that's interesting is that Jon Bound's

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report completely misrepresents Sabata's words.

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This rant at the supervisor's meeting had nothing to do with civil law and unrest around

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police brutality.

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He was specifically complaining about businesses being closed because of COVID-19.

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When he says that he'll go to war with his fellow citizens, that was a threat about what

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would happen if the county didn't reopen and people continued to have to wear masks at

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businesses.

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Jon Bound recognized that the language there that was threatening about war with fellow

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citizens, that was really good for the optics surrounding police brutality protests.

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So he took Sabata's comments and applied them to a completely different situation.

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Jordan, what do we call that?

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Good reporting, Dan.

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Lying.

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Oh, that's what it was.

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There we go.

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Lying.

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It's so insane.

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But that's what I'm talking about when I say that the entire media ecosystem has created

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an alternate reality where this guy is like, the government that I support, that I love

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so much, has absolutely destroyed the economy in every possible way.

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They are ruining everybody's lives.

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They're stealing money from all of us.

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They're murdering us.

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They're pulling people off the streets in unmarked fucking vans.

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And do you know who I'm mad at?

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The Wall of Moms.

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That's who I'm really pissed off at.

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Fair enough.

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You know, like that's how the, it must be insane.

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You must drive yourself mad.

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You know, you have to, there has to be a part of you that is losing your mind, thinking

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like trying to control the cognitive dissonance that you're experiencing.

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It feels, it feels like it would.

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Yeah.

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You have to be exploding, right?

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I don't know.

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You think you would, but maybe not.

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It's a grim thought, but maybe there's a comfortable, a comfortability that comes in eventually.

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Just like a Zen state of hating everyone.

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So Alex spends a lot of the beginning of this show really just painting a dystopian picture

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of what it looks like on the ground in Wisconsin.

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Where it looks like, again, scenes out of a third world collapse or civil war.

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Road Warrior isn't even strong enough to describe it.

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Police getting shot at, police being stopped by Black Lives Matter, communist checkpoints,

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warehouses being burned down, car dealerships burned down, churches burned down, street

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battles everywhere, people running up, hitting police in the back of the head with bricks,

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total loss of control, American flags being guillotined, they're now rolling guillotines

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out.

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This is all Jacobin French Revolution 2.0.

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All right.

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So flags are getting guillotined.

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Man, I'm cool with Jacobin French Revolution 2.0 at this point.

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It's a weird thing to be included in this list.

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I'm going to guillotine a flag.

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What's the head of the flag?

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Probably the stars.

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It's the stars?

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Right.

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So you got to chop it at a diagonal.

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I guess.

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I don't know.

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Okay.

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So anyway, Alex discusses this whole thing.

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There's a hippie with a gun apparently that Alex has a video of.

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This is a Black Lives Matter long haired hippie running up with his assault rifle, menacing

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and ordering the police around.

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And the police are so paralyzed that if they do anything that they'll all be given the

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death penalty that they're just letting them do it.

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That idea right there is huge because it's a central theme of much of the right wing

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justification for the shooting after the fact.

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The police refuse to restore justice, so of course some 17-year-old from another state

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should be the one to need out that justice.

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I mean, here's Tucker Carlson literally saying that after the shooting.

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Kenosha has devolved into anarchy because the authorities in charge of the city abandoned

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it.

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People in charge from the governor of Wisconsin on down refused to enforce the law.

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They stood back and they watched Kenosha burn.

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So we're really surprised that looting and arson accelerated to murder.

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How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order

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when no one else would?

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Very shocked!

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Quite shocked.

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Very!

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Tucker's words are an attempt to make what the guy did okay, to help his audience reach

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a place where that act seems justified.

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Alex's words are an attempt to get someone to do what the shooter did.

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Yeah, they're playing a two-man game here.

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The way Alex is framing this, he's calling for one of two things.

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Either he's saying that the police should take these protesters out and stop being so

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afraid of getting in trouble, or he's saying that the way the system is set up is such

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that the police just can't do what needs to be done, so we need vigilantes.

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His audience hears him and they understand what he's saying.

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Yeah, I'm trying really hard.

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Like I have been trying very hard to remain calm and not scream because I'm worried that

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if I start, it's just not going to stop.

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Well actually my whole intro, my whole intro, that whole long chunk was really just a way

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of you slowing me down.

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Well, no.

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Getting me down into a more receptive level.

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I was trying to create a fictional reality where we didn't actually cancel Friday's episode

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because you were too busy yelling.

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I was very, very, I was very, very, I wasn't good.

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I genuinely, I don't know if I could have done it.

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I'm sure.

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I mean, we both sort of process things in different ways.

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Me thinking.

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Meddling with plants.

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You yelling.

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Like with a song in my head and a scream in my heart.

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Right.

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So Alex, you know, he sees these, these demonstrations on the street, this property damage and what

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have you, and he realizes that, hey, I remember Project Veritas video that mentioned that.

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Remember what the Democrats said on all those hidden Veritas videos a year ago, six months

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ago that the media poo-pooed.

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We're going to burn the cities ahead of the election.

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We're going to burn the cities after the election if Trump wins.

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Alex can't keep his Project Veritas videos straight.

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The video that he's referring to is originally used by Veritas to smear Bernie Sanders by

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interviewing a staffer who's talking shit about how the country will burn if Bernie

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doesn't win.

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If Alex wanted to try and use that now since Bernie didn't win the primary, I guess he

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could go for that, but it's a bit of a stretch to just rewrite this piece of propaganda to

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make it about how the Democrats said that cities would burn if Trump was real.

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Come on, if you can't, if you can't update your propaganda, you are not doing it right.

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Well, Alex is totally comfortable changing the points and players in these narratives

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because he knows they don't mean anything.

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There's no actual truth to preserve in what Veritas puts out, so it's pretty easy to just

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pretend those videos say whatever the fuck you want them to say.

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There's a pretty keen awareness, even for Alex, that if someone is stupid enough to

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think Project Veritas videos show anything other than bullshit, then they're probably

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stupid enough to believe that the Bernie staffer was talking on behalf of the Democratic Party.

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Yeah, the entire Democratic Party.

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You know, the ones that embraced Bernie's with arms wide open.

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They definitely didn't all organize behind each other to make sure that at no cost would

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anything good happen to America.

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So a lot of this episode, at least in the beginning stages of it, a ton of it is sort

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of repetitive, a car dealership burned, you know, like that, and it's kind of boring,

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so I was trying to find some points where things could get kind of interesting, something

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to talk about, because I don't want to just listen to him say tires are burning over and

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over again.

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Yeah, that's no good.

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So here's something kind of interesting.

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These criminals have censored everything, they've attacked everything, no borders, no

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wall, no USA at all.

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They have shipped in the fentanyl that's killed millions.

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1.4 million died just last year of TB that the Democrats helped ship in and blocked people

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stopping.

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1.4 million people did not die of TB last year in the United States.

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Did you just say that 1.4 million people died of TB?

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Yeah, and the way he's talking, he definitely is implying that that's in the United States.

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Is this, is this, are we in the rust bowl?

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Like what is happening?

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I assure you, if that number was even close to accurate, it would be the biggest story

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around.

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Probably way bigger than COVID-19.

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It'd be the most insane story in history.

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One year after zero TB, after like nine TB deaths, 1.4 million TB deaths, that would

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be a big story.

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Only 9,000 people get TB per year in the United States.

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That number has been steadily decreasing basically every year that the CDC has records for, going

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back to 1953, in which 84,304 people got TB.

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What's going on is that Alex is actually fairly close to the accurate number of how many people

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died in the entire world from tuberculosis last year.

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But almost all of the cases are in Africa and Southeast Asia.

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The rates are particularly high in developing countries where access to medical care may

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be limited, so TB in children may not be diagnosed properly, which leads to many of the deaths.

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There is a vaccine that can be given, but its efficacy is limited.

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For instance, people living with HIV cannot use it, and more generally, it doesn't actually

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create a lifelong immunity, so there's still progress to be made on that front.

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Alex wants to use the statistic of 1.4 million people dying of TB, but he's using it dishonestly.

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He's lying and saying it's just in the United States and it's because immigrants and refugees

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are coming in and infecting everyone.

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That's essentially Nazi-style propaganda and demonization built out of dishonesty, using

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the statistic as a lie.

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I don't understand.

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So you're saying that somebody's saying immigrants and foreigners bringing in disease is some

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sort of Nazi kind of thing, Dan?

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I'm saying it's Nazi-style.

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When did they ever do anything like that?

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That's odd.

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The next thing you know, he'll be saying that his enemies are drinking blood.

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That'd be crazy.

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The reality beyond this statistic is that there are a lot of people in the world who

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are dying from TB, and there's a lot of things that we can do if we prioritize the problem.

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Creating cheaper, high-quality tests, particularly ones that can be used on infants, would make

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a huge difference, and that's something that the government could easily help subsidize

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or even put regulations on the test manufacturers to help keep prices down.

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Beyond that, more money could be directed to researching breakthroughs in better TB

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genes or less complicated drug regimens, and if we committed to it and we got lucky, there's

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a really good chance we could get that 1.4 million number down pretty considerably.

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Alex doesn't care about the 1.4 million people dying.

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He only wants to use that number as a prop to demonize his imaginary enemies.

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He's a piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It is the only thing they do.

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Everything is wrong.

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We have no solutions.

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You should kill people.

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That's basically what they do now.

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And the solutions that probably could make some difference are globalism.

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Are evil.

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Are evil.

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Not just we have no solutions.

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We are actively trying to kill all of those solutions with God.

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Great.

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So Alex is pretty obsessed with the idea that all these protesters are trying to create

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checkpoints.

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Sure.

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And one of the reasons that he's doing this is because I think he's noticing there's a

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lot of videos of people trying to run over protesters.

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Yeah, that's really hard to justify.

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Well, the way you do it is by reframing all of these instances as people just trying to

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get out of checkpoints that people have set up.

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They've been set up.

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You know what?

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It's almost like you're admitting that checkpoints are a bad thing.

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Uh-huh.

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Well, Alex has an interesting way of looking at it.

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This made me laugh out loud.

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Okay.

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So I'll just tell you, if I'm driving down the road and I see, say, a forest fire or

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something up ahead and I see police out with their guns out and they're looking in for

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a manhunt or something, I'm going to comply and I believe it's lawful.

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But if I pull up to a pack of thugs at a checkpoint, pointing guns at me and telling me to pull

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over, well, you're not going to like what happens.

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You're a terrorist.

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Alex is trying to pretend that Antifa is setting up all these checkpoints, which is the narrative

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that he's working on here.

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But the secondary narrative is that Alex is trying to present himself as the guy who respects

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lawful policing.

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Sure.

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Hey, man, if I saw some cops trying to do their job, I'd respect that, but not these

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globalist minion thugs.

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I find this really funny because I know Alex's career.

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In 1999, Alex released a documentary called Police State 2000, and approximately 15 of

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the first 25 minutes of it is Alex yelling at cops running a checkpoint.

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Here's some fun clips of Alex really respecting these cops who are trying to do their job.

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Now we're about to go out and speak to some of the police and expose what they're doing

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and hopefully reactivate their conscience.

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We are entering the eye of the checkpoint.

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Caution, reduce speed, checkpoint ahead.

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Isn't that loving, children?

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Hello, Bop and SS.

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I wouldn't have said that, Alex.

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That I would have to pause there.

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That's my favorite.

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I wouldn't have said that, Alex.

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Alex's cameraman, Mike Hanson, coming in, I wouldn't have said that.

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I wouldn't have started there, buddy.

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Well, because he's saying that because in the video, this is them driving through a

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checkpoint and Alex is yelling at the cops who are standing on the side of the road.

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Oh, God.

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And it actually kind of hurts his argument that this is some kind of a random, capricious

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thing because he's calling them Nazis and they don't pull him over.

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No, they don't have a problem with it.

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Get the search lights.

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Get out of the road, my friend.

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Kaboom.

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I tell you, this is it, guys.

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They're laughing.

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Get shots up.

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They're over there laughing about the death of this country.

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Look at them.

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Over there laughing about the death of our nation.

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I got it.

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Over there thinking it's funny.

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Things are pretty sad in Alex's career before 9-11.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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What you really get down to in his career has basically been the evolution from him

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being an outright whiny baby to him being an unapologetically racist baby.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of the, that's his Pokemon evolution.

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I'm really struggling with his first, did he tell me if I'm driving and there's a forest

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fire in front of me and I see some cops at this checkpoint.

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Yeah, that's an interesting thought.

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I'm going to stop.

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Yeah.

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But if there are thugs at the checkpoint, I'm not going to stop.

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Different checkpoint.

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Not, the thugs aren't running a fire.

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See, now that's kind of what I heard where he's like, if there are thugs in the way of

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my forest fire, I'm driving right into that forest fire.

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I don't believe, that's interesting because that is a possible interpretation of what

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he said.

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That's kind of seemed like what he's saying.

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That is one reading of it.

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I'm going to drive into a fucking forest fire if it ain't cops.

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I think the accurate reading of that is what he's saying is...

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Cops are setting up checkpoints for your safety whereas they're...

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No, no, no.

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He's saying that there's this one, this fire fight checkpoint and then there's a completely

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separate in the middle of a city checkpoint that's the globalist to do it.

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I understand that.

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He's object permanence is an issue.

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Now, we need to even take a step further back though and that is that why do they have this

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checkpoint at a forest fire where the cops have their guns out?

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What are they doing?

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How are they protecting people from the fire with their guns?

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Well, our slaves in California are all sick with plague, so we're trying to shoot the

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fire.

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I don't know how to deal with that.

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I guess it's an option.

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So we get back to the Kenosha stuff here and Alex is just really heightening.

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Armed BLM Soros terrorist setting up a checkpoint and ordering the police armored vehicle to

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stop and the police have been told by their leftist controllers, their leftist supervisors

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that they will submit to this.

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So here's the footage.

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So here you see Alex heightening and reinforcing the narrative that the police are powerless

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to stop what's happening in Kenosha due to what Alex is clearly presenting as the brass,

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telling them that they have to submit to the protesters.

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There have been many complaints that sound very similar to this from the left wing, but

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the difference is that in a lot of those cases, the left wing complaints include proof.

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There's documentation of things like the police being in communication with the Proud Boys

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and Joey Gibson, coordinating with them.

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There's a video of the police in Kenosha thanking the militia folks for being there that night

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of the shooting of the protesters.

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There's a lot more evidence that goes along with the argument that the police do seem

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to make a habit of siding with the right wing folks in these protest situations.

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But even so, I've not heard people on the left really making the argument that because

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the police seem to make a habit of siding with right wing fascist types, that means

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it's open season for vigilantism.

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I recognize and realize that some people may struggle with this, but there's a massive

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difference between one side saying, the cops won't shoot these people I don't like, so

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I have to, and the other side saying, the police and the state are not taking our needs

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seriously, so we're going to protest and some property's probably going to get damaged.

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So his main problem with Tiananmen Square was that the guy wouldn't get out of the way?

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Hmm, I mean, you know, the cops, uh, so he's, so the, I mean, that's the California or China

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didn't have a leftist government running everything at the same time.

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The real problem was that the cops didn't, uh, you know, they let it get to that point.

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See, there we go.

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That's it.

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The cops were powerless to stop the guy from standing with their armored car.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Gotcha.

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It's convoluted.

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Yeah.

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We're doing great.

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We're doing great.

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So Alex takes some calls on this episode and, uh, something that's kind of fun.

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I don't know if it's fun.

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It was fun for me.

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I was looking, I was desperate.

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You were looking for anything.

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So, um, he's talking to this caller who's trying to make an anti-vax argument by appealing

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to the Nuremberg code.

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Great.

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Love it.

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And it's really, this, this, this is really interesting to me, but this is also in that

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state where I was like, I might be completely losing perspective, this might not be interesting

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to anybody.

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Okay.

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Um, so Alex, uh, discusses the Nuremberg here we go and you're right.

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That's where we get the precursor to the Geneva convention and in the Geneva convention, it

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says that you cannot test things on people unless you have informed consent and they

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agree because of what Joseph Mengele and the Nazis did.

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And so what you're saying is incredibly important.

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This is in response to, like I said, a caller rambling about how you shouldn't have to get

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a vaccine because the Nuremberg code says he can't force experimental things on people.

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It's a lot of nonsense for a hundred different reasons, but the only part I find interesting

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is that Alex should definitely be opposed to the Geneva convention.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Also there's the small point that the first Geneva convention where international rules

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regarding the treatment of wounded soldiers and prisoners of war were established took

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place in 1864 long before the Nuremberg trials.

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No, no, no.

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Either way, Alex is talking about the Geneva convention that took place in 1949 after world

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war II, which was the fourth Geneva convention and based on his supposed political beliefs,

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he should hate them.

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The Geneva rules are based on multilateral treaties that are an affront to any nation's

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sovereignty.

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They're rules that countries are bound to, including the prohibition of taking hostages-

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Well, let's hold on about bound to.

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Well, forcing people into armed service or willfully denying someone accused of war crimes,

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you have to give them a fair trial.

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And they're bound to these rules by international law.

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That's globalism shit.

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That's pretty much the most global.

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Pure and simple.

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And he should absolutely hate it because he's cheering for the cops to violate those same

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Geneva conventions on a daily basis.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Breaches of the Geneva convention are enforceable universally, which is to say it doesn't matter

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where the crime was committed and, you know, it gets-

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So you're saying that there's no sovereignty in-

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Okay.

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Regardless of where the crime's committed, it gets tried by whom?

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You guessed it.

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The United States.

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The fucking UN Security Council.

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Oh no.

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Well, not directly.

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Yeah.

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When there are breaches, the UN Security Council establishes an international criminal

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tribunal and then they try the case.

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I recognize there are all sorts of points that you even brought up that you could, you

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know, you could bring them up about how ineffectively the Geneva conventions are applied and that's

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a fine discussion for another day.

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My only interest right now is the fact that Alex should fucking hate the Geneva conventions

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if he wants to be philosophically consistent.

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Based on his fetish for nationalism, he should be calling for the destruction of the Geneva

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conventions and arguing that it's each nation's responsibility to have their own rules that

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achieve what the Geneva conventions do.

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There you go.

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He can be against countries taking hostages and torturing while still being against the

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Geneva conventions and he absolutely 100% needs to be if he's serious about his beliefs.

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While we're at it, he should be super upset about the Nuremberg trials.

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This guy hates globalism.

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The fear of global government keeps him awake at night, but for some reason he's fine with

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binding international laws that prohibit nations from acting in certain ways.

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Well you're against Nazism.

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That's weird.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'm glad that he supports the Geneva conventions, right?

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He doesn't.

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Well.

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Yeah.

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Verbally.

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Verbally.

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Okay.

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But I'm still not going to give him a pass with his glaring hypocrisy.

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The point I'm trying to make is that Alex Jones is not a serious person.

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He doesn't even know what his alleged beliefs entail because he hasn't actually sat down

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and thought them out.

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He's perfectly happy to yell about nationalism all day when it's a mask that he can use to

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hide his white identity beliefs in opposition to social justice, but weirdly, when his belief

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in nationalism would require him to take an obviously unpopular stance, like opposing

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the international prohibition on killing prisoners of war, nationalism isn't so important anymore.

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Fuck this ignorant, low-effort piece of shit.

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Ah, I mean, it's just old people being like, socialism is wrong and it's going to get us

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all killed!

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Well, I mean, I'm on a fixed income because social security is taking care of me, and

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you're like, fucking shut up.

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Just shut up.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's moments like that where you really, you really sort of, the clouds part,

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and you realize that like, Alex, you're just some dumb fuck who read these John Birch society

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things and then adopted all of that and then got fucking freaked out on weird conspiracies

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for a while and now you yell about the devil.

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You don't even know what your beliefs entail.

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If he was up here talking about how like all of these things that are really good and allow

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us to, you know, try the Nazis after World War II.

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Fuck those things, they're wrong, those people should be freed and given a trial in Germany.

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They committed their crimes in Germany, it should only be the German government.

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Totally.

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But he doesn't do that because he knows how fucking hard of an argument that is to make.

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Because it's ridiculous.

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It's nonsense.

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Yeah.

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There's two things, which is first, they're all held to this weird subconscious standard

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by which progress becomes accepted.

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Like you know, Jeff Sessions is not going to go back and be like, well, according to

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my ideology, slavery is still fine.

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I mean, his ideology is fine with slavery, but he's not going to say that.

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Do you know what I mean?

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I mean, sort of.

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And then the other thing is that it doesn't matter if what they're, they're not trying

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to make you afraid of real things, they're just trying to make you afraid.

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It doesn't matter if what you're afraid of is real, it doesn't matter if Tucker Carlson

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is actually telling you the truth about how fucking Kenosha is in flames, it's that you

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think it is, it's that you are constantly afraid.

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And that fear is what's going to lead to situations where some asshole is bringing guns and then

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he starts shooting people.

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Like they just want you agitated all the time.

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I don't disagree with that agitation being a desired outcome, but at the same time, specifically,

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what I'm complaining about is that Alex is into globalism.

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Of course he's into globalism because it makes sense.

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It makes more sense than not.

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So in this next clip, Alex makes some shit up.

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Well, you know, doctors have the third lowest lifespan in the United States.

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Sure.

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Women, black men, doctors, and then in any profession, doctors live less long lives than

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combat vets.

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So you can find an article in the Scientific American from 1850s that refutes Alex's claims

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and you can find a study from the Office of National Statistics in the UK that definitely

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also contradicts him.

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Generally speaking, physicians are near the top of most life expectancy tables and some

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of the reasons that are usually offered to explain this is they're typically well compensated,

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they have an understanding of health because of their profession which often leads to healthier

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choices in terms of things like diet, and they have jobs that often require a fair amount

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of physical activity, walking from patients' rooms and what have you.

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Not to be discounted, probably a sense of job satisfaction and a certain revered position

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within society as the healers.

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And almost everything I can find on the subject, people who work in manual labor fields and

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fields like transportation where you might get exposed to high levels of pollution have

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much lower life expectancies than doctors.

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Alex seems to just be making that shit up.

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Black men do have lower life expectancies than their white counterparts, but they're

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also outpacing white people in terms of rising life expectancies, so that number might be

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a bit closer in the future.

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Let's fucking hope so.

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As for gay men, this idea was a big talking point in the right wing during the 2012 election

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cycle.

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There was a bit of trouble surrounding a guy named Bob Marshall who was running for the

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2012 GOP primary, trying to get one of the Virginia Senate seats, who's also a huge homophobe.

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Prior to his Senate run, he'd lost an earlier Senate primary, but was a member of the House

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of Delegates in Virginia, where in 2012 he successfully blocked the nomination of an

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openly gay man, Tracy Thorne Beglund, who had been nominated to be a district judge.

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Marshall justified his opposition to the nomination, saying, quote, you could preside as a district

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judge for a marriage of two guys if you wanted to, in violation of the law.

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Moreover, if you have a barroom fight between a homosexual and heterosexual, I'm concerned

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about possible bias.

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Wow.

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Bob Marshall's a huge asshole.

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When he was asked about his actions, Marshall pointed to a 1997 study that reflected a decreased

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life expectancy between 8 and 21 years in gay and bisexual men living in Vancouver from

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1987 to 1992.

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I wonder if there would be anything.

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The authors of that study have come out and said that these numbers are no longer relevant,

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and they really reflected the HIV AIDS crisis and how heavily affected the gay community

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was by the condition during that time period, which is still an issue, but it's not nearly

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as bad as it was at that point.

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For some context, the CDC reported 36.3 deaths per 100,000 people from HIV AIDS in 1995 compared

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to 2.7 people per 100,000 in 2010.

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As we make improvements on understanding and treating this condition, the gap between life

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expectancies will become even smaller.

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There's a sharp decrease in HIV AIDS, which was the main driver of the decreased life

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expectancy in the gay and bisexual men in the 1997 study that was used by Bob Marshall

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as a defense for his outright and unjustifiable bigotry.

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Since he got heat from the press about it and he stood his ground, the talking point

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has since been repeated by members of the right wing when they want to make their homophobia

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seem grounded in a statistic.

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That's all you gotta do.

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In 2013, the Virginia House of Delegates had another vote, and they confirmed Tracy Thorne

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Begland as a district judge, much to the chagrin of dumb dumb Bob Marshall.

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Take that, dickwad.

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Anyway, the point here is that Alex constantly just makes up bullshit that he expects his

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audience to accept as research truth, when in reality most of it is just stuff he's pulling

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out of thin air or some bigoted right wing talking point that he kinda remembers hearing

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at some point.

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Nope.

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Nothing means anything.

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No.

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So the RNC was happening, and Alex was thrilled about Trump giving speeches.

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Proud to say I didn't watch a single second of it, Dan.

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No, I didn't watch the RNC or the DNC.

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I don't think I had, I just didn't have time.

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I just don't have the heart or the energy.

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I just can't do it.

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I hate them all.

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Well, Alex is really excited that Trump didn't go virtual on it.

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Sure.

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No, of course not.

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A virtual cult event where everybody stays 20 feet from each other is now six feet isn't

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enough.

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And wear the stupid mask.

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So he's being roundly criticized for that.

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It's great that Alex thinks it's great that Trump went ahead with his convention in the

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middle of a pandemic.

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It's really great and awesome.

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In unrelated news, ABC reported on Friday that at least four people who were at the

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RNC gathering in Charlotte tested positive for COVID-19.

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Two of them support staff and two attendees.

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Trump originally was planning to give a keynote speech in Jacksonville, Florida, but actually

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had to cancel that entire part of the RNC because of COVID-19.

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Actually I lied.

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Trump originally had planned to accept the nomination in a speech in Charlotte, but according

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to an NPR article from June 11th, quote, President Trump will formally accept the nomination

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as the Republican Party's choice for president in Jacksonville, Florida instead of Charlotte,

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North Carolina in late August following a dispute between Trump and North Carolina Governor

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Roy Cooper regarding safety precautions for the large-scale gathering amid the coronavirus

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pandemic.

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Yeah.

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He was supposed to give a speech in Charlotte, but got into a fight with the governor about

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safety precautions in a pandemic.

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Right.

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Then he moved his speech to Jacksonville, but realized there's absolutely no way to

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do that safely considering the surge of COVID-19 cases.

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Florida's a fire.

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So he moved it back to Charlotte where at least four people involved got tested positive.

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Well, there you go.

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I can't put this more simply.

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This is stupid shit and all of it is unnecessary and childish.

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Like it can't, it's just, I don't want anybody to die, but you need to be in the hospital

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at the right time.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Like let's get them in the hospital when something big was going to happen so they can't do anything

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about it.

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Just keep them away.

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Just keep them away.

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Like sitting down and realizing this back and forth of Trump's RNC plans, like how stupid

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it is.

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It's in the middle of a pandemic, Dan.

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I felt really intensely embarrassed.

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Oh, no, every morning.

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And I think it was even worse than like, I traveled abroad when Bush was president.

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I was an American in Europe when Bush was president.

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I was embarrassed then.

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I feel very similarly now.

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This is very embarrassing.

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I did a set in London, almost because that was what, like our third week doing the show.

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It was pretty early.

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It was pretty early on.

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And I did a set in London and the very first words I said were just like, I'm American.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry, guys.

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I'm sure.

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And I feel that I'm sure they hear a lot of times more, 10 times more right now.

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So you ever Google yourself?

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I Googled myself one time.

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It didn't go well.

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Well, you learned your lesson.

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I think Alex Googles himself a lot.

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I believe that.

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You know, every morning I sit there and my wife's like, why do you like Googling your

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name?

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And I said, I don't like it.

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It's like waiting to be punched in the stomach.

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I need to see the new lawsuit, the new attack, the new deep state operation against us.

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It's part of the war.

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It's like Googling yourself is how you find out you've been sued.

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That's not good.

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No.

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That's not good.

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Fire your lawyer.

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Get somebody to mail it to you first.

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Yeah.

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Also, man, if he Googles himself, there's no way he doesn't know about this show.

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No kidding.

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Yeah.

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No kidding.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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You suck a bitch.

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Constantly Googling yourself.

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Starting your show with red alert, red alert, red alert.

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Man, that's such a, that's such a, like, I don't understand those guys.

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People get off on that shit of just like constantly scrolling through to see what terrible things

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people are saying.

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Yeah.

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It's a very unhealthy.

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It is not good.

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It's like you reading the reviews of our show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not, it's not a healthy behavior.

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No.

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Not always.

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So Alex has a bit of a guest.

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It's not a guy I'd heard on the show before.

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And in advance, I'll tell you, dude sucks.

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Thanks for having me, Alex.

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It is absolute total lawlessness.

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There's a guy named Drew Hernandez who was on the scene in Kenosha and his claim to fame

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is now that he is a, he, he got some of the videos that have been circulating and so the

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right wing media is really amplifying anarchy.

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And it's obvious that these Marxist agendas are now beginning to play out in our real

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world.

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When I showed up last night, literally right when I showed up, there's a gigantic, there's

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like three huge garbage trucks just lined up on fire.

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And then out of nowhere, there's this police squad truck that's being surrounded by Black

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Lives Matter militants armed with, it appeared to be AR-15s, multiple, literally just pointing

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them at the police officers as if they are policing the police, as if there's some kind

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of new shadow police that's policing the streets.

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So Alex has taken some calls and now he has this guest on his show and we're at about

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the hour 40 mark of the program.

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And as these two are talking, I realize that Alex hasn't even mentioned Jacob Blake's shooting

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at all.

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There's plenty of discussion of these BLM and Antifa rioters and how they're apparently

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the new cops in the city, but if you were listening to this in a vacuum, you couldn't

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be faulted for thinking there was no incident that sparked these protests.

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This episode is from August 24th and approximately 5 10 p.m. on August 23rd, Jacob Blake was

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shot in the back multiple times by a Kenosha police officer while three of his children

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were in the car.

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Thankfully, Blake survived, but according to his father, he's paralyzed below the waist

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and it's unclear if he'll ever walk again.

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I'm not really interested in litigating the arguments about whether or not Blake is a

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great person or whether or not it matters if someone has a knife in their car.

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The bottom line is that nothing that people have suggested to justify this justifies a

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police officer shooting someone like this.

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There's a reason that people were protesting and some of the property damage broke out.

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It's because he had another unarmed black man got shot by the cops and there wasn't

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appropriate action being taken against the officers involved.

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The officer shot Blake's put on administrative leave later, but it's clear that people weren't

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accepting that as an appropriate response.

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The cop fired seven bullets at this guy.

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There's no reason to think that that wasn't something he thought could kill him, or at

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least, you know, at least it's incredibly negligent in weapons use.

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Whether this was a cop trying to kill a person or a cop who's incompetent enough to shoot

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a person like this, that's not someone you really want on the streets with a gun and

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a badge.

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Kenosha's not my city, so I have no right to say what they should or should not demand

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of their officials and law enforcement, but if I lived there, I don't think I'd be satisfied

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with administrative leave as a response.

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I think you could probably go by the Geneva Conventions and do a better job than what's

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going on.

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Globalism.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, the point here is that Alex hasn't talked about that really at all.

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That's a surprise.

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It seems like it was-

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He's kind of-

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No, that's a big piece of context, Dan.

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He's kind of pretending that the protests are just happening randomly, which is irresponsible.

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It's probably a flash mob, Dan.

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It could possibly be an organic response to something.

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It seems really weird.

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Anyway, Drew Hernandez straight up sucks.

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I believe Black Lives Matter is a white, excuse me, a black supremacist movement.

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That was about all I needed to write off everything this dude might say, just fuck this dude.

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Bye.

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So he hosts a YouTube show called Lives Matter.

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It's basically all just videos-

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Sorry, I just had a visceral boo right there.

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All his videos just have clickbait-esque titles that all appear to basically just be anti-left-wing

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content.

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Sure.

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Anything that seems progressive, let's make a video talking about it's being stupid.

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It's a boring grift, but it's gotten him on Alex's show, and according to his Twitter

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feed, it appears that he was invited to be a guest on fascist sympathizer programs like

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Tucker Carlson and Tim Pool's dumb webcast.

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Great.

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He's a real shithead, and looking over his Twitter feed, it just makes me sad.

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He posted a video from Breitbart about people yelling at Rand Paul with the caption, quote,

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racist BLM terrorists intimidate Rand Paul and his wife all the way to their hotel.

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You can hear the racist BLM woman in the background making vile threats, which actually reminds

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me.

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What's the date?

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How many days?

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It's August.

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It's been quite a while.

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It has been a while since-

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We needed to check in on whether or not Rand Paul is accepted.

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8-30.

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It's August 30th, so that puts us at almost a full month.

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Maybe a little bit more, and Rand Paul has run away from more people than debates that

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he has accepted.

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I think that's 100% true.

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I don't know if you can confirm this, but I heard a rumor that actually that whole situation

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with Rand Paul, it was people demanding that he debate me.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's what I heard.

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That's why he was running so fast.

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Didn't you see him scared for his life?

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That's how terrified he is of debating me.

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So if you go to Drew's, his Twitter page, you can scroll through these videos from Kenosha,

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about the marauding mobs of protesters, and a lot of it is pretty laughable.

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There's a video purporting to be people trying to torch a house, and it's just a firework.

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There are a number of videos that are supposedly depicting leftist violence in the streets

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that are just fireworks.

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Like this dude's a shithead.

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Yeah, it's hard not to shake with rage whenever you see the twin nightmares of the far right.

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Them being the out-and-out aggressors, the nightmarish fascists with their boots on everybody's

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fucking throat, and at the same time, them being afraid for their lives.

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They're terrified.

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They're the victims of all this violence.

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Because they saw a sparkler.

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They're so scared.

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It's a sparkler, Dan.

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Right, right.

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You can't even buy those in Illinois.

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Yeah.

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There's a real cringey post where he tweeted a trailer for Dinesh D'Souza's new film and

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said, quote, Dinesh D'Souza red-pilled me in 2016.

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2020 is now your turn.

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That should make you weep for yourself.

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If Dinesh, look, you can get red-pilled.

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Sure.

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Fine.

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Sure.

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But if Dinesh D'Souza's doing it, you suck even for you.

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Yeah, you're a fucking dork.

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You suck.

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On the lighter side, there's a hilarious string of four tweets from the night of August 23rd

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where Drew repeatedly posts that he's either in Minneapolis or Minnesota, all of which

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have replies from Drew saying, quote, Correction, Wisconsin.

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He was out in Kenosha, and he kept saying he was in Minneapolis or Minnesota.

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It just doesn't matter.

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Nope.

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It just doesn't matter, man.

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Yeah.

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There's an amazing level of incompetence that's completely accepted by right-wing propagandists

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to need people to build their narratives.

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Accepted, celebrated, lionized, worshipped.

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No, no, no, no.

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I don't think that Tucker is going to get him on and brag about claiming he was in the

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wrong state.

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I mean, just in general, incompetence is a weapon for them, not a deficiency.

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You're not going to bring it up.

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Yeah.

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That's a good point.

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But you're going to allow it because he's doing what you want him to do.

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Yeah, you don't need to worry about it.

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If you don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to, they might as

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well not have happened, right?

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Yeah.

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What made me stop my research into Drew Hernandez was a tweet that he posted about one of the

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protesters in Kenosha who was shot on Tuesday night.

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I know people, I've decided to play the game where they take people who were shot and point

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to something that they may have done in the past that makes them somehow deserving of

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being shot, and that's disgusting.

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But it's also pretty standard and boring that people are doing.

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Yeah.

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Drew, on the other hand, is a sociopathic monster.

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On August 27th, Drew posted a video he apparently shot of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the people

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who was killed in the shootings.

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Rosenbaum was arguing with someone and he was yelling, shoot me, at them.

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Drew tweeted this video saying, quote, technically Mr. Rosenbaum gave consent to be shot by militia.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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Fuck this dude.

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Wow.

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Yep.

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Wow.

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I understand this kind of thing.

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You know, like when we talked about the shooting of Lavoy Finicum during the Malheur Wildlife

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Refuge standoff, I bet we mentioned that he kept yelling at the cops, you're gonna have

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to shoot me.

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And that might have been, like someone might see that as distasteful.

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I feel like the difference here though is that we didn't make jokes less than 48 hours

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after he was killed, and Lavoy was reaching into his jacket pocket where police did find

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a loaded semi-automatic.

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Like also the footage that Drew's making a joke of about, like it's from earlier.

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It's not connected to the shooting itself.

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Fuck this guy.

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Fuck this guy.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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That's the type of shit where you're just like, you I've given up on.

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There's no point.

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You're gone.

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I have no interest in talking to you or you existing at all to me.

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Yeah, but he's not the only one who has some first-hand experience with streets.

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We hear about another city that's going to be covered.

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Savannah Hernandez and Greg Reese have been kicking butt in Portland with their own just

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insane stuff in the street battles.

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They just got back late last night.

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They're going to be in studios, so it's all crazy.

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And by the way, when I tell you you need storeable food, we have the best quality ready to ship.

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Are we back to food?

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Yep.

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Storeable food.

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We're back to food.

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Well, you got to get scared of these things that are going on in the streets.

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Jesus.

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They're going to overthrow the government and you're going to need food.

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Man, I should have known food was coming back.

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Yeah.

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Drew is really annoying, I would say.

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His vocal patterns very- I wasn't a fan.

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No, they rubbed me the wrong way.

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And here's an example of it in action that just is like, ugh.

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So my message right now to people that might be sitting on the fence, just hoping that

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Donald Trump will fix it, or just hoping that guys like myself or Alex Jones or Savannah

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Hernandez or Owen Schroyer will fix it.

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How old are you?

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We can only do so much.

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We can only say so much.

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We can only cover so much.

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It's the everyday American that has to stand up, that has to speak up, that has to get

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up and do something and say something themselves.

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That's why we have our freedoms.

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That's why men and women that have gone before us have bled and that have died for this moment,

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Alex, for this moment.

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Because whenever freedom is on the line, sacrifices have to be made.

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And that's where we are in 2020 right now.

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I mean this with all the disrespect that my words imply, but this Drew guy is the worst

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to listen to.

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Once more, we enter the breach on this Saint Crispin's Day.

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Dan, we're gonna do it, guys.

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I think Alex is eating lunch, so he's just letting him talk uninterrupted for long stretches.

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And you saying how old are you is really appropriate, because I just think he sounds like he's

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like a child whining.

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Yeah.

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What are you doing?

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He sounds like a child whining about how life isn't fair because someone took a toy he

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likes away.

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Nobody's casting this dude as William Wallace, let's put it that way.

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He just starts talking and then he starts exciting himself when he ends up getting into

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the topic of how important he is and how Trump is fighting a Marxist takeover of the country.

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And honestly, I don't think he even knows what Marxism is.

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No.

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This dude has the buzzwords down and he gets that most of the right-wing media persona's

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job is trying to incite anger from the left.

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But beyond that, I see no evidence he has any idea what he's talking about.

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Until I can find evidence to the contrary, I'm gonna picture him as a little cartoon

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of a child in a sailor suit who's yelling that he wants an oversized lollipop.

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I was gonna go with the baby with the cigar, you know, but with a higher-pitched voice.

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Yeah, it could be.

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So fuck that dude.

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Now, Savannah Hernandez comes in and discusses the time she had in Portland.

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And let me tell you...

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Did she go to a record store?

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No.

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She should have.

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Although there is a real twist to her tale.

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It was like a civil war out there.

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And you know, Alex, you always use the word deranged when you're talking about these leftists.

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And I was talking to Greg about this when we were there.

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You always say that they're deranged, they're demonic, they're foamy at the mouth.

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And I always thought it was a bit dramatic, but going to Portland was exactly that.

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The people there are demonic, they're evil, they're angry, they're deranged.

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This is tough, because by the time this episode is being prepared, there was a shooting in

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Portland on Saturday night.

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At this point, I don't know enough about it to say who the victim was or who the shooter

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was, but it appears to be yet another unacceptable act of violence that may have been involved

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in some protests.

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If it was a right-wing person who pulled the trigger, then I hope they get arrested.

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If it was a left-wing person who did it, I hope they get arrested too.

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Killing people is not cool, full stop.

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That said, beyond my generalized opposition to killing people, I have no idea what the

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circumstances of this are, so I really can't comment on much more.

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I do want to just say that Savannah can go fuck herself, because she didn't go to Portland

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to report on anything.

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She went there to hang out with Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys.

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The other thing I want to say is that this episode is deeply and almost entirely about

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stoking fears and heightening tensions surrounding these street protests.

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Mark spent a long time yelling about the car dealership in Kenosha burning, but ignored

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the shooting of Jacob Blake.

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Then he interviewed Drew Hernandez about how he was in Kenosha, and BLM is a black supremacist

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group and interviewed as very clearly intended to paint the protesters in Kenosha as an existential

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threat not just to some buildings, but to the very existence of America.

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Then he had Savannah in here talking shit about running around with some weird assholes

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in Portland.

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It's weird, and I'm almost certain it's not intentional, but this is one of the most singularly

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focused episodes of Alex's show that I've heard in a long time.

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There's some random instances of him getting lost in the woods a little bit, like talking

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about TB or nurses, that kind of thing, but in terms of the content he's actually dedicating

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time to, it's pretty much entirely left-wing protests are the biggest threat in the world.

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Looks pretty bad in hindsight.

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I mean, for fascists, probably.

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I think one fundamental thing that drives me insane about these people is just like,

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oh, the left-wing protests, they're foaming at the mouth, they're demonic.

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One side of the line has medics, and the other one doesn't.

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One side cares enough about people to have medics, and I would guarantee this, through

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fucking clenched teeth, if one of those patriot prayer people went up to a medic needing assistance,

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they would fucking get it.

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They would.

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Yeah, I believe that's true as well.

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I don't know if the right-wing side of things doesn't have medics, so I don't want to say

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that for sure, but Savannah actually has some bad news for you.

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Oh, what's that?

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Those aren't actually medics.

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Oh, of course not.

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Well, of course that's the trick, isn't it?

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Those are secret antifa.

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Of course they're secret antifa!

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But we'll get to that later.

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Oh, god.

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So, one of the things that I think is really interesting, too, about the framing of these

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people as demonic foaming at the mouth and stuff, is that they also have to, like, Savannah

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has to wrestle with the idea that a lot of people in Portland who aren't involved in

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the protests support them.

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Yeah.

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So how do you do that?

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Oh, I know.

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What a lot of people don't know is that the people in those neighborhoods are actually

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encouraging the marchers.

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They're standing on their balconies and their porches and they're clapping, they're saying,

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you're here, you're doing a great job, thank you for everything that you do.

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And that's what made me realize that they've been allowed to do this for so long.

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Oh, yes.

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Blue cities attacking the rest of the country.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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That's exactly what this is.

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The people in Portland have allowed this to fester and turn into this huge mess, and they're

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now trying to branch out off into the rest of America.

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They're planning on going to Kentucky.

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We've seen them in Charlotte, they were in Wisconsin, and they're going to continue to

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branch out the closer we get to the election.

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So it's not that these communities understand what these protests are actually about, and

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they're about issues that have directly impacted their lives and they support what is going

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on.

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No, it's an attack on the rest of the country.

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I'm really starting to think they're just ignoring that Portland has a Democrat mayor

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that is essentially condoning the violence against protesters at this point, if not outright

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encouraging it.

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Doesn't that seem like something that they would...

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Jordan, that's way too much detail.

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You are right, that's true.

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That's fair.

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You're right.

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We can't do that, because all we're doing here is making broad swings.

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Sure.

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It's blue cities.

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Right.

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Anyway, Antifa, super organized.

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Everyone says that it's not like an actual group, but they're like better organized than

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most businesses.

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They're so organized, they're secretly organized.

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And it's so well organized, Alex, the media keeps trying to tell us that Antifa is not

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a well-organized militia, that Antifa is fake.

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What me and Greg went and witnessed, they have vehicle convoys, they have people on

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mopeds, they have their own press, they're very well organized, they know exactly what

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they're doing, and they're coming to your neighborhood.

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Because this is the Democrats' plan to take over the election, to take over America.

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Every single day, we see a new city being burned down, and it's going to be bad.

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Can you imagine a new city being burned down?

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I mean, literally, who will be ruling over you in a FEMA camp is one of these degenerate

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child molesters.

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Because most of them, I've studied their MO, they're child molesters, we'll be right back.

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Cool.

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Most of them studied their MO, Dan.

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They studied the MO.

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Doesn't mean anything.

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I really...

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Man.

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Yup.

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I wonder what Jesus would have done if Facebook was around.

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You know?

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He would have been like, let's hold on with the violence here, guys.

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But I mean...

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You gotta put it with all this fucking...

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So in this next clip, we get confirmation of something that I had suspected from the

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beginning, and that is that they just went to Portland because they're friends with the

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Proud Boys in Patriot Prayer.

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Of course.

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And of course that's the case.

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Gregory says as much, and then he brings up something that took me in a flight of fancy.

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Savannah's been bugging me forever about going somewhere and getting into the heat.

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Mostly she was talking about Portland, but then just recently she was talking about Chicago,

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and I just asked her, why not Portland?

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And then we just asked our news director, Rob Dew, if we knew anything about perhaps

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the Proud Boys going to Portland or anywhere.

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And then he inquired and right away got a reply that they were going to Portland, which

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was the first we heard of it.

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So we immediately picked Portland.

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You picked Portland because you asked, hey, where are the Proud Boys going to be?

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That's not good.

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As a reporter, I wanted to present a balanced view of how the Proud Boys are the best people

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on the planet.

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And I really had no interest in anything else.

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They're fun.

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They like me, not them.

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That was obvious.

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And so I was more surprised that he just directly said that.

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Seems kind of gauche.

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Come to Chicago, buddy.

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Yeah.

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Come on, dude.

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Now, that would have been fun.

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Come on.

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Come on, Savannah.

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I would be interested to see if they'd run away from me.

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Absolutely.

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I don't know.

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They wouldn't recognize you, but the moment they would hear your voice and be like, no!

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I don't know.

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It'd be like a Radio Guy kind of situation.

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That's making way too much of an assumption of broad familiarity.

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No, of course.

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They don't listen to us.

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They don't actually listen.

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They have no idea.

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But the flight of fancy that I had was involved with me running into them and then just talking

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about 2009 narratives.

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Like talking about stuff that used to be really important.

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Like being an old info warrior and being like, hey, man.

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We need to fix this stuff.

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Do you know about these roads?

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Shit like that.

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So trying to slide your way through as just like, I'm a classic info wars fan.

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I don't like this new coke shit.

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Come on, man.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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I'm done with your stochastic terrorism.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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What?

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I wouldn't even pretend to be...

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Wouldn't even bring it up.

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I would pretend that I still think info wars is what it was in 2009.

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I pretend like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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People talk about Trump.

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Yeah.

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Great, great, great.

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What I'm concerned about is that goddamn road.

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Are they going to still build that road?

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Yeah.

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I want to talk about the ports.

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I wonder how they would respond.

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I bet they'd, one, have a complete grasp of all of those narratives.

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Just completely forgotten, like, what am I supposed to think about this?

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We totally understand our editorial position.

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What days were those?

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Yeah, I would just think that would be really fun to play that game.

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Drew Hernandez was nine in 2009, Dan.

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So in this next clip, this is where my mind got blown listening to this.

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Savannah Hernandez was apparently on the scene and there for a monumental event.

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Okay.

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But I want people to notice too, because there's a guy, there's a reporter for Vice right now.

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I guess one of the proud boys came and broke his fingers with a baton.

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First off, he was in the heat of the battle.

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I was standing right there.

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I got that exact same shot.

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Yeah, they throw themselves in the middle of a battle and then selectively go, I'm a

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victim.

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Exactly.

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But I want to point something out.

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So Antifa has this very well figured out.

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They have Antifa press.

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A lot of the people in those videos that have press helmets and press vests are not press.

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They're with Antifa.

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So this supposed Vice reporter that Savannah is referring to is...

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I think I know who we're talking about, Savannah.

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Robert Evans.

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Oh shit, our worlds are getting too close to each other.

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Very strange.

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On August 22nd, when he was out reporting on the confrontation that was going down between

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the Proud Boys and the left-wing protesters, a guy who has since been identified by Bellingcat

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just started swinging his baton around and hit Robert, breaking his hand.

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I've watched a fair amount of Robert's streams from the protests that have been happening

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in Portland, and I don't think it's fair to say that he's quote, with Antifa.

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Obviously he's opposed to fascism, so there's that, but he does make a point to bring up

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that when he's reporting, he doesn't get involved in the protest outside of like helping someone

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who's hurt.

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Yeah.

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Even if he supports one side.

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There's a press hat he's literally and figuratively wearing.

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What's interesting to me, though, is that let's pretend Robert is actually their quote

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unquote with Antifa.

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If that's true, how's that any different than what Savannah's doing?

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That wreath said they chose to go to Portland because they could hang out with the Proud

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Boys.

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She's there with the Proud Boys.

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She's explicitly and definitively there as someone posing as a journalist who's actually

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with a group.

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There you go.

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It seems very weird that she's basically pointing a finger at Robert, which if anyone

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takes a second to think about, is an indictment that applies even more to herself.

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She's not very good at this.

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Don't think too hard.

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What they're doing is what we're doing, but they're doing it, so it's okay that we're

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doing it.

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I reached out to Robert for comment, and as of press time, I learned that he does not

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work for Vice.

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Okay.

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I was going to say he wasn't there for Vice.

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No.

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I wrote to him.

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My question was, how do you respond to the accusation that you work for Vice?

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I do not work for Vice.

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So yeah.

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That's interesting.

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That's fun.

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The thing about it, though, is they so well know why they have to have that, you know,

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there have to be independent press on the ground.

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They know, everybody knows why somebody like Robert Evans has to be there, because you

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can't fucking trust an outsider.

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You can't trust a national news media source, because that's not what they're for.

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Well, and there's a lot of people who feel a calling towards certain-

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Totally.

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Totally.

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But if you, you know, it's just you can't rely on the information, and you definitely

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can't rely, you can't allow Infowars to fucking control the narrative.

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Yeah, there's some of that.

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So you've got to have an independent press.

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One of the things I think is really interesting is, Savannah goes on to talk about this a

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bit, and she never names Robert, but it's very clear that's him, I mean, like-

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Well, the broken finger, the-

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Broken hand.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And the video that she was there, like, it's all that.

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So she's clearly only talking about him, and then gets into how there's fake press, then

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she goes on to talk about, like, how this fake press sets things up, and then records

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it, and then presents it as if it's something that's happening devoid of the context of

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them staging the stuff.

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Yeah, of course.

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Which isn't saying that Robert's faking all this stuff, but it certainly implies that.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, anyway, that's interesting.

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In this next clip, Savannah gets real dumb.

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It's real dumb.

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She's really bad at this job.

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Donald Trump basically is allowing this to happen in these cities, because he's forcing

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people to say, okay, we need police, we need your help, we need law and order.

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It's the only thing that's going to change anything.

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Well, he made the perfect choice.

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Savannah is, like I said, not good at this.

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If you follow what she's saying, and then Greg, Reese, and Alex are agreeing with, she's

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describing what Alex has said is the globalist's plan for the last 20 years.

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It's called the Hegelian dialect, or the problem reaction solution.

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For Alex's entire career, he said that the globalists either create or allow a problem

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to happen, which will elicit a reaction from the public, then magically the globalists

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will be ready with their solution, which was their plan all along.

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One example of this thinking in Alex's conspiracies would be the whole coronavirus outbreak.

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He believes that the globalists created this virus and or hyped it up, which is the problem.

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This problem would lead the public to having the reaction of begging the government to

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find a cure, and they would create a vaccine which would actually secretly be a weapon

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and or microchip, which is the solution.

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From the jump, they wanted to vaccinate everyone, and in order to get people to accept this,

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they created a problem which would elicit the reaction that allowed their solution.

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This is exactly the pattern that Savannah is describing with Trump.

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If you take what she's saying, the problem is Trump allowing these protests to get out

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of control, which will lead to the reaction of the citizens begging Trump to come in and

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put down the protests and establish law and order, and Trump's solution will be an unconstitutional

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crackdown and deeper slide into authoritarianism.

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These people are fucking stupid, even within their own stupid world.

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Anyone who listens to this show with any critical thinking capacity would hear Savannah describe

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that situation and immediately say, hold on, if Trump is intentionally allowing these protests

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to escalate in order to create a situation that he can use, that probably means that

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he's wanting to do something he couldn't get away with if the protests weren't out of control.

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Any half-decent conspiracy theorist should have a ton of alarm bells ringing immediately.

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You would think.

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It's probably not a problem, though, since I have to assume that Alex's stupid show's

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already weeded out the listeners capable of abstract thought, but goddamn, Savannah.

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Well, I mean, when you don't have any creativity whatsoever, your enemies can only be doing

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your ideas, and since your ideas are uncreative, you're just, by telling me what your enemies

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are doing, you're just saying what you are only capable of imagining.

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She's not, like, you're not supposed to define your enemies the same way as your hero.

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You know, like, problem, reaction, solution, Hegelian dialectic is explicitly bad.

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That's what the globalists do.

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It's not what your heroes do.

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It's manipulative and destructive.

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And it is, well, I mean, what can we say, purposefully killing off your citizens.

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It's not something that's like, ah, mom tricked me into eating my vegetables.

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That's not the Hegelian dialectic.

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If Trump is doing this, then you are just telling me that Trump is murdering people.

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So we get to Savannah saying something else that's, like, really weird.

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This is a very important election, probably the most important election in our history.

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The American people have gotten comfortable because Donald Trump has been in office, but

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they need to realize that they are the last line of defense, basically.

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We need to keep President Donald Trump in office, and we need to fight for our country.

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I would love to ask Savannah who exactly she's talking about who's gotten comfortable while

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Trump is...

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People feel comfortable right now.

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I would say the billionaires, maybe, but I don't know if I can think of anyone else,

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regardless of their politics, who seems legitimately happier than they were four years ago, including

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Alex.

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Everyone is happier.

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Isn't the entire premise of Alex's show supposed to be that the public is suffering because

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of the globalists running a fake virus outbreak that's tanking the economy and starving everyone,

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and simultaneously Soros-funded militants are attacking multiple cities around the country

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and have hit teams ready to take out all the conservatives?

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Who's comfortable?

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Oh.

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It sure as shit, not the left.

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People have gotten comfortable.

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And it doesn't seem like the right-wing ding-dongs are all that, doing all that good either.

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Nah, it's almost like he's been really bad for everyone.

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And yet, they just can't admit it.

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Such bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Anyway.

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God damn it.

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So comfortable.

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You remember how...

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I can't think of how these have been the most comfortable years for everyone, right Dan?

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America's just been so fucking comfortable.

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That's why we're having the most important election in our lifetime, because we're so

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comfortable.

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Yep.

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So Alex goes to calls while Savannah and Greg Rees are still there, and this caller is,

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I would say, interesting.

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It starts off promising.

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Okay.

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Yeah, Alex.

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Good day to you guys.

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Good day to you.

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Good day.

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Hey, I just want an emergency message to get out to Trump.

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First of all, I think one of the major things he needs to do is go open Fort Knox.

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Show us the gold.

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Show America their gold.

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I'm listening.

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Hell yeah, man.

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I'm listening.

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I'm listening.

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That guy's like me, going up to Greg Rees to 2009, there it is.

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We're not doing this one anymore.

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Show me Fort Knox.

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I'm fine with that.

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I don't have a gold sponsor, and I don't care.

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I just don't care, man.

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Show us the gold.

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Now, that's a protest that I... If the right wing was just walking around, show us the

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gold.

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Yeah.

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As long as it didn't get violent, I think there could be some fun to be having a show

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us the gold protest.

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I'm having a free time.

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Show us the gold.

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Show it.

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March on Knox.

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Yeah.

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We could have Cuba Gooding Jr. run it and yell, show us the gold.

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Show us the gold.

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Jerry Maguire style.

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You had me at hell gold.

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Uh-huh.

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Alex gets another caller who apparently recorded a video the night before that had gotten really

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popular.

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Alex is super excited.

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Sure.

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This is interesting.

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Yeah, Alex.

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Thank you for taking my call.

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I actually was on scene in Kenosha shortly after Jacob Blake was shot, and I took the

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... Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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We're not talking about that.

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... officer getting hit in the head with a brick.

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Okay.

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We'll stop there.

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Hey, guys, cue up the video.

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The officer being hit in the head by the brick.

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Thank you for getting in.

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Thank you for holding.

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That's what we saw in Kenosha.

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There's no other conversation of the Blake shooting.

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That's a mention that Alex just glosses over because he wants to talk about this guy's

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video of a cop getting hit with a brick.

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Oh, man.

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So that's cool.

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Show us... How in God's name can you possibly hear those two things back to back and be

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like, well, definitely show me the clip of the...

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He's unconcerned.

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I would honestly be surprised if he didn't even register what the guy's talking about.

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Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about.

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The whole Blake thing.

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Who's Blake?

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So Savannah, she's complaining about protesters being bailed out and stuff, and so then Alex

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starts whining.

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There was the ACLU legal observers there.

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I'm like, all the ACLU does is support the destruction of freedom, free speech.

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They worked with Soros.

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They got bought off by the ACLU as a criminal organization.

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Alex, I watched them walk with Antifa and watched them and see who got arrested so they

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could help bail them out.

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There's also the National Lawyers Guild, who is writing numbers on Antifa.

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Communist.

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Yeah, they were writing their number on Antifa members' arms so they could call them if they

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got arrested and immediately get let out.

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And that's what's happening.

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Because the power structure is behind them.

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Yeah.

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And this completely... What?

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... and so you could sense that they feel victory.

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They feel like they're running that place and they're winning the revolution.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I don't know what to say.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I don't know what to say.

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All right.

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So all of these people who are, one, legal observers, communists, are watching protesters

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be forcefully grabbed, cuffed, taken to a holding cell, held there for hours upon hours,

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and then bailed out.

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And they are saying that is because the power structure is behind them?

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Totally.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, then now I understand it.

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So Alex goes out to break, and this is one of the more damning clips, or one of the

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more troubling clips, I think, from this episode, and it's where we end the 24th.

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They think they're winning-

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Because all the money, and all the power, and all the Chai-Coms, and all the Hollywood,

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and all the blue states, and all the blue city, and all of it, because they're the rebels.

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Everyone's... All the powers... No, you're not the rebels when King George III is on

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your side.

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You're not.

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We're the rebels, and we're going to win.

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But the king-

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We don't want the establishment on our side, a bunch of child molester, devil-worshipping

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filth.

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Kristen, you're amazing.

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Give your info to the producer, please.

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I'll get you on as a guest.

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We'll be right back.

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Nothing.

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Finally, the police stand down, we can move against you.

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That is really fucked up at the end.

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Finally, the police stand down so we can move against you.

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That seems to be an expression of, please, not doing anything, now we get to kill you

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protesters, who think you're the rebels.

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No, we're the rebels.

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You're on the side of King George, which is my imaginary shadow government.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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So that was really-

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Jesus Christ.

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That was bad.

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And so we jump to the 25th, and Alex starts the show off in a bit of a mood of existential

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danger.

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We're in a fight for our lives, so wake up out of your trances.

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Come on.

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Wake up and wake others up, snap out of it.

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The Democratic Party is openly calling for the end of the nation.

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They're absolute trash.

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Are you gonna let them win?

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We have right on our side, we have the truth, we have history, all we have to do is rally

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the people now.

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So there is an intense feeling of you gotta act.

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Yeah.

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You gotta do something.

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Yeah.

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So one of the things I noticed here on this, the episode on the 25th, is that Alex is continuing

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to play Trump ads, promotionally.

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Here's Trump's latest campaign ad, America first Trump campaign ad, it's like high noon

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to vampires, here it is.

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So I noticed that this was continuing, and I kind of think he might be breaking federal

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election law, whether or not he's being paid to play these ads.

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Yeah, yeah, this is a gift in kind, for sure.

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No, I don't even think it's that that's a problem.

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According to the FEC rules, he might be in trouble because of disclaimers.

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There's no disclaimer at the end of the ad that Alex plays that clearly says who paid

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for the ad, which is a requirement for political advertisements.

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If it's a paid ad by the candidate or their political action committee, that needs to

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be disclaimed, and if it's not, then there needs to be a disclaimer that indicates who's

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responsible for that advertisement airing.

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Like if there's another political action committee that produced the ad, or something like that.

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The FEC guidelines are pretty clear that the exemptions for political ads are pretty limited.

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The only cases that disclaimers aren't necessary are instances where they wouldn't be feasible,

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like in the case of promotional pens or skywriting.

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I bet the ad does have a disclaimer in the visuals of the video, but Alex doesn't realize

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that he's doing a radio show, and that you can't hear visuals on the radio.

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I'm not sure how big a deal this is, or if Alex has anything to worry about, even if

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anyone took this seriously, but it's a pretty strong indication that he doesn't care about

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rules.

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No.

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At all.

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No.

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Because there needs to be a disclaimer at the end of that.

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There needs to be a lot of stuff.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, we get a bit of a disclaimer, not about that ad, but Alex, he does this

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from time to time, and I think it's his way, it's sort of like, I'm going to kill you politically.

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That kind of thing.

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And I just hope if it really kicks off, like I warned you, don't go down and fight Antifa.

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That's a decoy.

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Remember who did it.

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If you're in a war, you don't go after the privates.

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You go after the leadership of the New World Order.

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I would definitely be dishonest if I were to do this episode and not point out that

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Alex does occasionally say things like that.

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During this time period, this is the only instance of it.

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But from time to time, he will tell his listeners not to go after Antifa if shit gets hot, and

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that they should focus on high priority targets.

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I don't find this compelling or exculpatory, though, because he also says that his audience

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should make kill lists of protesters, and says that the government is right to kidnap

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people in Portland because they're enemy combatants.

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It's disjointed in self-contradictory messaging, and these occasional comments about going

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after the big guys instead of Antifa, they ring hollow to me when compared to the massive

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time he spends yelling about his violent fantasies regarding what he wants to do to left-wing

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protesters.

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Yeah.

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His metaphor also doesn't make any sense.

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In war, you absolutely go after privates.

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No, haven't you seen giant battles?

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They're always fought between the...

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Uh-huh.

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There are stats on this that are pretty easy to find.

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Yeah, generals are always...

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Nobody lives less time than generals, right?

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That's the way it goes.

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The Congressional Research Service released numbers about military casualties, and up

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to July 2020, there have been 2,349 active service persons killed in the embarrassingly

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named Operation Enduring Freedom.

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Of these, approximately 10% were officers.

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Approximately 50% were rank E1 through E4, and in the army, those ranks are private,

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private two, private first class, and specialist, so three out of the four are private ranks.

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This makes sense, because typically in a war, private is the only person you're ever going

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to be able to fight.

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I understand that Alex has these warped commando fantasies where he's sneaking into Soros's

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secret underground compound and taking him out with piano wire, but that's a childish

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cartoon way to imagine hostilities actually looking.

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And now you understand the far right.

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We're all John Wick, right?

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Alex is not going to inspire competent spies to infiltrate the globalist homes and perform

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targeted assassinations.

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No, everybody knows competent spies listens to Infowars.

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The only effect he could really have in the real world is people hurting regular people

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like themselves, because they are privates, and the only people for them to fight realistically

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are other privates.

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The idiot who thinks Alex is smart, that guy does not have access to metaphorical generals,

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and pretending that they do is nonsense, and it only leads to a higher likelihood of metaphorical

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privates being targeted.

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So I find even these caveats to be, they are not caviar caveats.

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No, no, no, no.

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Oh boy.

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So now on the 25th, for some reason, Alex is fine, bringing up Jacob Blake, and he wants

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to talk some shit.

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You have the individual that started all the latest rioting in Wisconsin, and when I read

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about this guy the other day, even worse come out, he didn't die, Jacob Blake, his neighbors

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called him on him.

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He's got a sex assault charges, underage sex charges, all these drug charges, I mean a

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rap sheet, 80 feet long.

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I guess Alex has finally decided to talk about this, and it's interesting that he's just

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spouting bullshit.

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I said earlier that I don't care to discuss the relative goodness or badness of people's

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actions, because that has no bearing on whether or not the police should have shot them.

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Any attempt to play that game is a transparent attempt to justify the police shooting someone,

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which is what Alex is doing.

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The only thing I want to point out is that Alex is lying about Blake's criminal record.

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According to Fact Check, he was charged with sexual assault against an adult in July, but

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has not been convicted.

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According to their research, quote, other cases in Wisconsin's court records include

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a traffic violation and custody disputes.

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The thing about sexually assaulting a minor is something that Alex saw on a widely circulated

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Facebook meme.

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What someone did was create an image that combined the charge that Blake had open, which

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was third degree sexual assault, and combined that with the definition of third degree sexual

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assault in Rhode Island.

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In Wisconsin, that's not specifically a crime that's committed against an underage person,

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but in Rhode Island, it is.

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This was an intentionally misleading meme that was created in order to make this dude's shooting

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more acceptable, and Alex is unquestioningly repeating it because he saw this information

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in a meme.

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He does no work.

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Interestingly, if you can say that someone having a traffic violation and custody disputes

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is a rap sheet 80 feet long, then I guess Alex has a rap sheet 80 feet long, because

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that dude has a court date coming up for that DUI and a pretty unpleasant custody dispute

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in his past.

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Yeah, it's hard to think that Alex wouldn't justify his own police murder.

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Well, I mean...

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You know, it's like... fine, do it.

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He's been...

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Okay, he's been sued by the Southern District of New York.

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It's a funny...

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He's been a terrorist or whatever.

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He's been...

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He's been...

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's been sued by family, the Sandy Hook families.

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The cops, according to Alex's own logic, could shoot him at any time.

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And he'd be fine.

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He got into a fight with a guy named Space Hitler.

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Exactly.

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He'd kill him.

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I just don't do it.

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I think it's a really interesting thought experiment to imagine Alex reporting on that.

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On his own police murder?

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He would not be a fan.

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I think you may be right.

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Well, I mean, it depends on whether he was...

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Metaphorically, he's white.

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Oh.

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So I guess he would...

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He would be against that killing.

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Yeah.

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God, I hate everybody.

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So in this next clip, we get the only real instance where Alex brings up the militia

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in Kenosha.

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And it's kind of seems to me like he hadn't read the article that's up on Infowars.

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He just sees the headline.

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There's no analysis.

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Meanwhile, our militia tries to stop looters and rioters in Kenosha.

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We have that video on Infowars.com, a Ben Warren article, very, very important.

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That's about it.

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That's it, huh?

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It's weird.

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But Alex has other things he wants to spend his time on, man.

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He wants to hang out with his new friends.

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This is where I, for one second, I have to stop myself real quick to avoid becoming the

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conspiracy theory of my own, where it's like, isn't it suspicious that that's all he said

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about it?

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That kind of feeling of like, it's conspicuous in its absence is...

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That took a second to get over, but there was that part of me that's like, so much confusion

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is going on.

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It's weird.

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So much is going on.

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You can kind of convince yourself.

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But it's such a consistent behavior of his to be completely oblivious.

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Why would he know?

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He's not going to read his own articles.

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Why would he read a repost?

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Of course he doesn't.

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And like I said, he doesn't give a shit because he wants to hang out with his new friends.

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He's clearly got a new class of people, grifters, who are entering his circle.

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One of them is Deanna Lorraine.

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Alex actually does later say that she's going to be working for Infowars now, so congratulations

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on that hire.

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Oh, we got a new rainbow snatch, huh?

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Out with the shadow gate, in with the bad news when you find out how into QAnon Deanna

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Lorraine is.

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Oh no.

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God dammit.

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Alex hired another Q weirdo.

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She's going to turn out to not like Q for a little while.

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Alex is going to deny hiring her later.

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Yeah, I know.

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I was going to say, we're going to get into a real independent contractor situation pretty

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soon.

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And then the other person who I get the sense is probably either going to get hired or Alex

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wants to hire is Ali Alexander, who we saw come up on a recent episode and he's back

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and man, this dude sucks.

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I've never seen, I'm just really trying to think about it, you know, 20 years on the

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internet since I was 14 and I don't think I've ever seen such a justified shooting in

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my entire career or in my entire time on the internet.

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And so I was a bad guy who did a bad thing and the cops did the last thing they ever

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wanted to do.

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And I both know, you know, you got to empty the mag and they didn't, you know, seven bullets

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sounds like a lot.

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What?

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So he's talking about Jacob Blake shooting and they're like, he didn't shoot him enough

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times.

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You got to empty the mag.

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You know what?

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Ali, what?

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I was thinking who I wanted to be hired for Info Wars is somebody with the same vocal

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patterns as Owen Troyer, but somehow an annoying, a more annoying voice.

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He's very condescending and also like a real religious zealot.

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We'll get into some more of that down the road.

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Fuck you.

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The last thing they wanted to do.

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The problem is that it's not the last thing that they want to do.

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There are a lot of other things that they want to do.

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Also, I take issue with the most justified shooting of my I've ever seen.

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Shut the fuck up.

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Yeah.

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The most justified shooting.

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So Alex discusses a little piece of video that he saw where someone was putting out

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a fire in, I believe a dumpster with a fire extinguisher and, uh, or maybe spraying some

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other fire extinguisher.

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There's a couple of clips that he plays.

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Anyway, Alex says he should have used a shotgun video Kenosha man punched by rioter for trying

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to protect his business from being looted.

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They're trying to set it on fire.

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He has a fire extinguisher.

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He shoots it at them.

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So they stopped breaking the windows out and they beat him.

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Hey dude, you should have been there with a riot shotgun.

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Okay.

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I mean, seriously, that's how you defend your businesses is with a shotgun.

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So it's sort of thematic.

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It never occurs to them that there are other ways to handle conflicts.

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It never occurs to them like it's just gone, gone.

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Well there's one other way actually that Ali brings up here.

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That's not good.

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Here's the problem, Alex.

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This is what keeps me up at night is these people exist.

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And I just keep thinking an election's not going to change that.

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A thousand arrests is not going to change that.

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These people still exist.

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And if we don't hunt and find all of them and we don't put them in prison, then these

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people will continue to exist.

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They will continue to be ministers to society.

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So apparently there's a Roundup.

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Wow.

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Kind of sounds a lot like what Alex said the globalists were going to do back in 2009.

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How many people voted in 2016?

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Look man, I mean- Oh God.

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So that's 50 million at least that we're rounding up and putting in prison forever?

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But isn't it interesting how we, like you just have almost the sort of the bizarro world

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appearance here because you have Alex building his entire career yelling about how the globalists

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wanted to round up all the gun owners and Christians and Patriots.

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And now he's allowing a guest to say like all these left-wing people, my problem is

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they exist.

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We need to round them all up so they can't be a menace to society.

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It's like, okay, well do you not recognize that like back then it was pretty clear you

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were going to become this?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What a dick.

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No, they don't recognize and they don't care.

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And it never worried them in the first place.

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So the problem though is the Democrats, right?

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I'm really starting to feel like it's not.

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One of the problems, the problem is they're working with the devil.

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That's what you don't realize.

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I didn't realize that.

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The Marxist, the progressive left, Antifa, Democrats and Satanists are all working together

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and media is providing them with sexy propaganda tools, you know.

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And I'll tell you who told them to do it.

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Remember Maxine Waters said, go to their houses, go to the gas station.

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When they're at the mall, you get in their face.

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Unbelievable.

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We'll be right back with Ali Alexander.

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So that comment from Maxine Waters that Alex is talking about was from June 2018.

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If Alex is trying to take a comment that she made over two years ago and say that these

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protests are the result of her words, how tenuous of a connection does he require to

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prove causality?

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Zero!

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That's a frighteningly thin case he's making.

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And honestly, I don't think that the further left types are really that beholden to Representative

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Waters.

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I very rarely hear my left wing friends talk about how great she is, but I do hear people

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like Alex and the assorted right-wing dum-dums I see online complaining about her all the

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time.

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It is weird.

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Yeah.

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Strange.

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It is strange.

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It's almost like they're creating their own thing, not responding to ours.

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So along the way, Alex is really insistent basically that Trump is going to win the election.

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The election is going to win.

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With 80% of the votes.

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He's going to contest the election.

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Trump's going to win it.

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They're going to try to steal it.

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They're going to try to secede.

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It's going to be crazy.

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With what's happening with the COVID lockdown globally and the economy, hope for the best,

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prepare for the worst.

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You need high quality, swivel food.

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We have the best company.

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You're going to find quality food for the lowest price.

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Got him.

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So, um.

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Jesus.

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Alex wants to talk to Ali Alexander a lot about Q. Because Alex has some really conflicted

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feelings about Q.

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He's got some questions about Q.

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And this, Mike down for this because it ends poorly.

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But Ali starts talking, he makes a metaphor that really confuses me.

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And so it's kind of like a black church.

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Someone shows up 10 minutes late and then sits at the front of the front pew.

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And that's how I look at the Q movement.

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A lot of people who love these causes and love this country and want to investigate

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things.

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But they don't want to do the due diligence and they don't want to do the research of

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the work of the people who have come before.

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Guys, I lost Ali's audio.

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All right, can I talk to you real quick?

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OK, all right.

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Oh boy, wow.

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That is abrupt.

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That is that is a whirlwind of a clip right there.

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Yeah, that dude's mad.

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I got stuck on I don't understand that analogy whatsoever.

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No.

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No.

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I know it's racist.

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Somehow.

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Well, it seems.

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I guess it's like that.

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That like.

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It sounds like it is.

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There's something racist there.

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I think it's I think it's like the stereotype that he's saying that all black people are

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late all the time.

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Right.

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Isn't that what he's saying?

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But it's.

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No, I don't think so.

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You don't think so?

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What's wrong with him?

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Well, I thought it was a take that was along the lines of like black churches are well

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intentioned people who don't want to do the due diligence and research of the people who

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came before them because that's how you describe the Q stuff.

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But he just said that they sat in front of the pew after 10 minutes.

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No, it's coming late to the Q or you're coming late to the black church so you don't understand

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what's going on.

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He came to the Q movement late so he doesn't understand all that's going on with the intricacies

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of it.

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Oh, that's not hard.

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You open with songs, man.

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Ten minutes.

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You're still you're still primed for the good stuff.

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Jordan, I couldn't understand the metaphor.

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I don't understand it whatsoever.

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I have no idea.

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He's never been to a black church.

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That's for fucking sure.

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More importantly, perhaps like Alex, I've not heard him just storm out like that.

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He didn't even say go to a special report to the crew.

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Mom's mad.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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So Alex, everybody is in timeout.

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Alex plays a special report.

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He goes back and thank God they do get Ali back because thank God for that day because

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he needs to explain that metaphor.

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OK.

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And thankfully he does.

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OK.

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I made a joke 10 minutes ago on the show and I said, you know, it's kind of like the black

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church.

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You're like 10 minutes late and you sit in the front pew.

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And I think that that's what we have a little bit in the Q community and what people like

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you and I have said, people who have built our careers in this survived, you know, vicious

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media taxes is like, hey, if you have something good, you're still going to have these infiltrators.

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And what we saw actually a month ago is one of the very, very popular Q people.

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His name is educating liberals.

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I don't want to throw him under the bus, but his name is Dylan Wheeler was a very, very

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big Q person, and now he's not only turned on Q, he's turned on Trump.

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He says that Trump is a Freemason and a satanic pedophile.

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And so close enough, like you and I have warned that, hey, if you investigate some of these

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issues, you are going to get a little paranoid.

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If you're not working with other people who have verifiable information or sources that

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you can vet, you're going to end up in the wrong place.

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And that's right.

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Stay there.

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We're going to come back.

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So that whole thing about the big Q non-account deciding Q sucks and that Trump is a demon

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should probably be a wake-up call that this is a community that elevated this person for

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no reason other than that he was saying the things they wanted to hear.

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This isn't just some person who turns out they're an infiltrator or something.

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It's an indictment of the entire community.

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Oh no, it's because they did such good vetting.

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No, it's not based on any kind of research or truth.

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It's just people on the internet reassuring each other of their shared delusions and violent

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retribution fantasies.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Also, clearly, I initially misunderstood that black church comment.

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I don't think you did because that didn't make any more sense.

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No, it doesn't.

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But my initial assessment wasn't right, clearly.

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I think he's trying to say that black church goers are the ones who did the work and the

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research.

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So they're there and they're the old school conspiracy theorists to know about the Bilderberg

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group and all that and whatever.

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So then there are people who are getting into Q or the people who show up late and sit in

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the front row and don't understand, aren't really in the middle or something.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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It's a weird metaphor that doesn't really track, but I think it's not as bad as I initially

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thought.

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I guess not.

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It might not be that racist.

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You know what?

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Here's what I think.

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I think we got stuck too far in the weeds on this one.

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Well, I like things that make sense.

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Here's the problem.

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Here's the problem.

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Yeah.

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This guy's just never been to a black church.

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He could be.

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So that's my problem before we even get into the meaning of the bullshit that he's saying.

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Maybe he's seen a few movies.

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He has never been to a black church.

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Yeah.

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So that now descends into a very boring gripe session between these two about how Q has

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been wrong about stuff and the followers can't admit that Q is wrong about anything.

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I hate them.

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No.

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No, no, no, no.

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It's mind-numbingly idiotic.

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Do not do that to me.

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And I don't care about it at all.

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Do not do that to me.

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It's painfully transparent as an attempt on Alex's part to try and attract some Q people

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to his revenue stream.

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So I don't care.

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Anyway, Alex has got another guest.

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All right, Chad Prather is our guest on YouTube, Chad Prather, P-R-A-T-H-E-R, and on Twitter.

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Watch Chad.

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He's got a successful popper show with Blaze TV and more.

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He's a successful national comedian and of course, country and Western.

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They got both types.

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A great musician will play one of his music videos dealing with the lockdown.

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What a multi-talented guy.

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Country musician, comedian, talk show host on Glenn Beck's channel.

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Weird.

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Anyway, here's a joke.

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They're comparing Texas now saying we need to be more like South Dakota.

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They don't have South Dakota toast.

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They don't put South Dakota flags on a bikini.

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They don't put South...

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We don't make waffle irons in the shape of South Dakota.

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We do that for Texas.

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We are Texas by God.

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Side note, Chad Prather is running a doomed campaign for Texas governor based seemingly

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entirely on his opposition to wearing masks and his anger at Governor Abbott for taking

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COVID-19 seriously.

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Also, second side note, South Dakota is basically a rectangle.

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So if you wanted to make a rectangle waffle and say that it's South Dakota, you could

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do that.

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Also, maybe these other states don't make all this dumb shit shaped like their state

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because they're not painfully insecure and in need of constant reassurance that they're

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the best.

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Also, the Texas waffle maker isn't made in America.

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Whaaaa.

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Also, uh, I've seen that joke kill too many times.

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Oh yeah.

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That hurt me to listen to because that gave me flashbacks of sitting after hosting a set,

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watching the feature murder on a line like that.

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Just wondering what am I doing with my life?

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What am I doing?

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So Chad is talking and he is a guy who, I mean obviously he's a comedian, so I don't

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know exactly how much of his commentary to take literally, like some of it might be him

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fucking around.

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Until you're funny, everything's literal.

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That's the way I'm going to take it.

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Funny can be pretty subjective, like there's a lot of things that I don't think are funny

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but I can still look at and be like, I get that this is an attempt to be funny and maybe

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someone with a different sense of humor would laugh at this.

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Possibly.

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And that's kind of tough to track sometimes, I don't know.

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Not with Prather.

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So anyway, Chad, he seems to be pretty focused on the idea that Peter Strzok, the FBI agent,

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wasn't bullied enough when he was younger.

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There we go.

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And this leads to an enlistment of people to take the fight to the enemy.

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Sure.

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That right there, that's the effect of an anti-bullying campaign right there.

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That's when you're afraid to stand up for yourself.

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That's when you're afraid to punch somebody in the mouth.

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This punk kid right here, he wouldn't have survived on my playground, I can tell you

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that right now.

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And people can call me a bully all they want to call.

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They can say whatever, but no, we stood up to guys like this because as you said earlier,

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these are the true bullies and we're not going to sit there and bow down to them anymore.

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That's done.

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That's over and done with.

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We're not doing it.

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And I encourage every American, every true patriot out there that can hear my voice right

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now, I'm giving you permission to stand up for yourself and take the debate to them.

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Win it.

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You're right.

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I don't know if it's a debate when you're talking about bullying and shit like that.

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I will tell you this right now, Dan, in no culture throughout history have the funniest

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people been the bullies.

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They have not been the comedians that everybody aspires to.

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It's a tough combination.

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So this is the last clip here from the 25th and Alex gets into this weird head space where

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he's like, yeah, remember when that video went around to me at that chicken place when

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I was yelling at people?

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Yeah.

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I was the victim in that.

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Sure, of course.

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Of course.

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And this is a startling confession, just completely casual.

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Sure.

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They edited the tape and said that I attacked them.

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The Austin American statesman went there, talked to the waiters because I said the second

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time he threatened me, I said, I want them thrown out here.

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I'm going to beat their ass.

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They're threatening me.

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They caught him the third time doing it, told him stop.

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So the statesman had to admit down in the article that they confirmed that that guy

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right there was coming.

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Look at that.

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Look on it.

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It looks like Strock.

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I mean, I'm not trying to say I'm the toughest guy around, but I have beat people to death

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a couple of times.

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I mean, this guy has no idea what he was up against and he's an idiot.

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Wow.

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I don't know if my reaction to that would be laughing.

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That's not even technically probably anymore.

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He just outright admitted to beating a man to death.

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Couple of them.

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Yeah.

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Alex is a murderer.

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Yep.

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He's a murderer.

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Point of order.

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The Austin statesman article that he's talking about did not say that Alex's version of the

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story is accurate.

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Apparently they should have said that Alex was a murderer.

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Yeah.

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And every time you have an article about him, self-professed murderer.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Why are you even bothering with InfoWars, though?

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Go with two-time murderer.

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Mass murderer.

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Serial killer Alex Jones.

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So the Austin American statesman article says that an employee confirmed that some people

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made fun of Alex.

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Alex claims that these people were making violent threats against him and his wife,

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but the article doesn't confirm that.

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No, no, no.

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Alex is lying.

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These people said that Alex... You know, Dan, it's almost like this is what happens

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when bullies, all right, aren't bullied enough when they're growing up.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I'm sick of these anti-bullying campaigns to keep bullies from being bullied, because

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now he doesn't even know how to be bullied right.

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Give me five minutes on that, I'll get you spotted for a life accident.

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I want to be on the blaze.

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All right.

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Probably could.

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Probably.

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So now we get to the 26th, and the previous night was when this 17-year-old shooter killed

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two people and wounded another seriously, and I was pretty surprised that this is how

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Alex opens the show.

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And again, I am your host, Alex Jones.

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Well, in a few minutes, we'll play you the clip.

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Hillary Clinton has come out openly in a Politico interview yesterday, and the video's linked

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up on newswars.com and infowars.com, and said Biden should not concede under any circumstances.

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That's a quote.

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This wasn't a Politico interview.

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Hillary made these comments in a Showtime program called The Circus.

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Alex likely saw a headline about this in Politico and decided that's where the interview is

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from because he doesn't do any work.

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Hillary said that Biden should not concede under any circumstances, but she wasn't saying

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anything sinister.

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There's a recognition that because of the way this election is clearly going to be a

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mess, Biden needs to be prepared for this not to be decided on election night, be ready

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for the possible legal challenges that could arise, like back in 2000, need to be prepared

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... Is there like a... There must be a Clinton signal.

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You know?

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Well, there's a Google alert.

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Like, you know, it's like, oh shit, some really... This news, I don't want to deal with.

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Somebody hit the Clinton signal.

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Guess what?

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Hillary Clinton?

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We can talk about her forever.

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Sure.

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Is something else going on today that's not important, Dan?

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That's local news.

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Nobody needs to know about that.

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Hillary Clinton is a national figure.

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Well, another thing that Alex talks about when times are tough is internal secret polls.

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Oh, of course.

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And apparently Trump, number's going up.

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Oh.

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And the way things are going, Trump's numbers internally are going up and up and up.

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Democrat numbers are going down and down and down.

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Their gamble to demoralize and collapse the country is failing.

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That does not mean with 68 long days, it's a long time and a short time, it's rushing

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towards us, that they aren't going to try to implode the dollar.

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They're doing that around the clock, start new wars, have China start a war, release

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a new, more deadly virus to shut things down.

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We were only primed for submission over the last eight months of lockdown.

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I sincerely don't think Alex is aware of the fact that there was a shooting the night before

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in Kenosha at the beginning of his show.

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He's opening the program rambling about secret internal Trump polling numbers that show how

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popular he is and how he's got the electoral college wrapped up and how the Dems have all

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these evil plans, like more diseases to throw things off.

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In the early morning hours, three people were shot and two died in Kenosha.

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The shooter was a 17-year-old in town from Illinois who felt like he was part of a militia

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and that there was some kind of a duty he had to come to a place he didn't live and

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protect business as he had no connection to.

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In the process, he killed two people and wounded a third, and wasn't even arrested by the police

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when he tried to surrender to them.

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He left town and was only arrested back in Illinois the next day.

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It's really, really suspicious that Alex isn't talking about this right away, because it

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should be his top story, and yet there isn't a hint of it.

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It's very weird.

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But Alex has other things on his mind, namely that Band.video links may not work on social

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media anymore.

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I want to light a fire.

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It's our live coverage weeknights, seven to nine.

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They don't want that getting out.

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So the way you do it is with this new URL that is Band.video, all the videos with their

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own new URL, censored by Jack.com.

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So I mean, this is the whack-a-mole game that will go on forever.

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Eventually once there's enough awareness of the sites Alex is using to evade bans, he'll

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create another URL, and then eventually people will be like, oh, that's just Alex's new site,

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and that'll get banned, and then he'll do it again.

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It'll just repeat over and over again.

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It's a little bit like antivirus software.

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You're always going to be losing because they have the initiative.

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They're always creating a new thing, and you're always reacting to it.

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There's a profit motivation to infecting people's computers.

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And there's a profit thing that Alex needs in being able for his links to be spread around

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despite him being kicked off social media.

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To infect people's minds.

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Right.

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So now we get to 35 minutes into the show, and this is when the first mention of the

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shooting comes up, and it's all just about self-defense.

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Now I'm going to get into the earth-shaking news and the incredible stuff unfolding in

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Kenosha, Wisconsin, and the response by the media, and the fact that a young man went

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there and was reportedly attacked repeatedly on tape, and then he shot and killed two people

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reportedly.

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Fuck you.

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Being killed is on tape.

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Fuck you.

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Attacking him, running him down with a weapon.

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The other man had a pistol in his hand.

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He blows the man's arm almost completely off.

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That individual lived.

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So imagine someone's chasing you down the street with a pistol, you turn around and

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shoot them, and the governor's calling for his arrest, the police say they're getting

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ready to make arrest.

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So the running down the street in the shooting happened after the first guy was killed.

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So I exclude that from really any relevant conversation about self-defense or him being

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scared because someone was swinging a skateboard at him so he had to kill the guy, because

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the preceding incident of someone dying by his hand being shot by him seems more relevant.

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So honestly, to be perfectly honest with you, I have zero patience for the arguments like

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this that Alex and Tucker are trying to make.

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To me, this situation is one where you have to approach things with almost an elementary

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level of questioning.

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Some people got shot.

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So the first question is, who shot them?

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It was a 17-year-old dude who thought he was a militia member.

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The next question is, why did this guy shoot these people, and the answer seems to be that

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he felt threatened and scared by them.

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So the question then begins to be, why did he feel threatened by these people?

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And like I said, for the later shootings, it's obvious, because people were chasing

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him down because he'd already killed a guy.

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So it's best just to focus on the initial incident.

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From everything we can tell, the answer is that the victim was chasing him and threw

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a bag at him.

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The next logical question from there is, why was this person chasing him?

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And I don't know the answer to that question from the available information, so unfortunately,

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that's a dead end.

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That means you have to ask some branching questions, and the first one is, why was the

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shooter there?

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And that's a tough question to get a sensible answer to.

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He claims he was there to protect businesses, but he's not from Kenosha, he's from Antioch,

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Illinois.

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Antioch is in Northern Illinois, and it's only like a 40 minute drive, but it's still

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crossing state lines, and from all the reporting I can find, there isn't any personal connection

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between the shooter and the businesses.

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So it appears that the answer to that question, why he was there and he felt so strongly about

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protecting buildings that may or may not be damaged, and he has no relation to, that he

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crossed state lines with a gun to make sure that no property is damaged, it just seems

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weird.

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I would say that it sounds unbelievable, but it's a 17 year old.

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The next question you might think of is, how did he have a gun?

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In order to legally possess, purchase, or carry a gun in Illinois, where the shooter

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is from, you have to have an FOID card, or a firearm owner's identification card.

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In order to get one of these cards, a person has to be 21 or over, or have the quote, written

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consent of his or her parent or legal guardian to possess and acquire firearms.

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That tells us that it's hypothetically possible for him to have a gun.

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According to Politifact, he quote, did not have a permit to begin with.

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So it appears that him just having a gun is illegal.

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He couldn't have, like, he couldn't have received a permit to carry a weapon in Wisconsin at

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17, so that's not an option either.

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This is why in addition to first degree murder, he's charged with possession of a dangerous

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weapon under the age of 18.

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If you trace out the causality chain of the first shooting, there are immediately at least

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two very serious reasons why the shooter should not have been in a position to be carrying

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out the shooting.

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He had no reason to be in Kenosha other than a bizarre, vague desire to defend buildings,

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and he had no legal right to be carrying an AR-15 at his age.

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For me, these two aspects of the story make arguments about self-defense feel a little

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bit hollow, and added to that, you know, we don't know what happened before the first

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video picks up, where the shooter is being chased by the first victim.

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I don't know if there was an inciting incident to that, like who might have been an instigator

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of whatever happened.

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So I don't know.

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I don't care about this.

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I mean, what I don't care about is the arguments that attempt to center the victims for the

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crime.

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Yeah.

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And it's an uphill battle if you're trying to make that argument.

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I don't see the evidence that would be required to justify that.

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I can't hear them say it.

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You know?

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It's like one of those things where I know they're saying it.

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They're saying it all over.

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It's in homes.

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It's in garages.

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And it's on fucking TV.

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It is not in garages.

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It's on TV.

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I get it.

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I just...

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No one will say it to my face.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Like they're all saying it where they feel safe.

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Alex is saying this shit.

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Alex would not sit down across from me and say that shit to my face.

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He might.

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You know?

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He just wouldn't.

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Meh.

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They're cowards.

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They're fucking cowards.

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Look.

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And it's pathetic, and it drives me insane.

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So on the 24th, Alex was spinning a lot of narratives about how the police are being

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policed by the protesters and stuff, and the police were unable to do stuff.

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And this continues after the fact that there's a shooting.

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And it's because those narratives existed to justify this preemptively.

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And now that it's happened, it's sort of the payoff to those arguments.

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The man, and we'll tell you about him in a moment, goes to the police with his hands

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up and is trying to get to them.

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They won't take him into custody because they're in their own vehicles, their own armored vehicles

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not wanting to be shot.

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When the police stand down, and you've got thousands of people going through neighborhoods

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burning down houses and businesses, raping and robbing, you're going to have the vacuum

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filled with citizens.

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And you're going to have street battles.

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So, no, they didn't arrest them because they were afraid?

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Anyway.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Let's just do this one real quick.

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How many cops were there in full fucking body armor carrying automatic weapons?

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And they're just being, oh, they're just handcuffed by people wearing improvised protective safety

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gear.

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This is pathetic.

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The right wing is filled with nothing but cowardice and it's fucking disgusting.

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You can't tell me that it's all right.

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We're the strongest people alive.

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We're alpha males and then cry all the time.

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They won't let us kill them.

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The cops need to be protected.

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Fuck you.

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Fuck you.

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You know what's really interesting though?

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As mad as that might make you, it might make you even more mad to recognize that having

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been like, hey, this is self-defense and all that shit, kind of wants to talk more about

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how he has a new URL.

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Alex seems more focused on bandbyjack.com or whatever.

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And our tolerance of these thugs and these criminals has conjured the nightmare we're

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now facing.

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I'm going to go over it all in a moment, but first imagine learning yesterday that any

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video from band.video built their own platform, millions of views a day, you're sharing it.

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He's just spending a bunch of time talking about how we got these new URLs that are able

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to penetrate social media.

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And I believe that that is a part of like Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

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Like talking about this shooting and stuff.

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That's important.

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Sure.

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But...

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It's not eating.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I need food.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I got to sell my videos.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Basically.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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The need for his advertisements in the form of propaganda videos to be able to get on

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social media is existential.

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His need to justify this shooting is like, wow, if we got time.

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Contrast that to somebody whose fucking business was burnt down saying 20 or 30 more times,

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you know, different types of people, different types of people, one, one's, one's apparently

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the good guys in his mind.

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Well, Alex wants to focus almost entirely on the plight of the shooter and what he is

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experienced.

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Tragedy.

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Black lives matter threatened the family of teen who killed rioters that attempted to

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murder him.

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That's right.

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They've been already shooting at him, chasing him with guns.

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He killed two of them.

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One guy with a gun in his hand, you can see it right here, that part of his arm blown

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off because he was physically pointing the gun at him, leaning over him and the young

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man shot him with what looks like a five, five, six blowing off part of his upper forearm.

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So it's just all centering on like this guy is like a poor guy is getting mean messages.

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Just no concern or care about the fact that a couple of people are dead.

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If you want to entertain this bullshit, I will give you this.

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All right.

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The 17 year old did not do this in a vacuum.

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This wasn't something that he just self-generated this idea.

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Sure.

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He is just as much a gun as the guns are.

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He was fired by all of these people.

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That's what's happening.

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Make an argument there.

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So if you want to victimize him, you're still the bad guy.

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So Alex has an interesting relationship with the fact that the shooter did not get arrested

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and was allowed to leave.

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That is interesting because conservatives are always under attack by the, you know,

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they're always being banned.

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The whole aristocracy is against him.

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The establishment is against him.

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Order.

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They're being policed by the ACLU and communists.

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Much like the need to justify the public support of protesters in Portland by saying, ah, they're

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all attacking the rest of the country.

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When something like this happens and this white guy who shot a couple people, the police

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are like, ah, whatever.

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You kind of have to justify that too.

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And Alex's angle on it is like, well, that's proof that he shouldn't be arrested.

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Oh, great.

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That's pretty circular.

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Wow.

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All right.

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And Rittenhouse goes over and sits on the side of the street with his hands up and the

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police never arrest him.

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But now the media says, oh, he's fleeing.

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We're going to get him.

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I'm sure the police will virtue his signal and probably bow and probably execute Rittenhouse.

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Because the police are on the left now in most cities.

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So yeah, they're going to virtue signal by arresting him for killing a couple of people.

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Whatever.

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Oh, my God.

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Anyway, Alex has some good news.

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What he thinks is good news and it's really just racism, but whatever.

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Now, he killed reportedly two white people, so it's not going to be as bad.

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My God, the whole country would burn.

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Whites would do it if they were black.

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Wow.

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Fuck you.

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The whole country should burn.

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I'm going to go regardless of race.

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Fuck you.

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Fuck you.

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So it won't be that bad is the sentence a fucking psychopath says.

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That is fucking beyond.

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That's crazy.

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Now, so Alex gets into talking here a little bit about how, man, people are always talking

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about how like, you know, you're in Wisconsin, this guy, Jacob Blake, you're black.

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You get shot.

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People are way more likely to be shot if they're white.

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And I have bad news for you.

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When those police officers shot that guy in that confrontation that triggered this latest

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thing, they said, oh, the police in Wisconsin have a long history of indiscriminately murdering

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black people.

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Just not true, folks.

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The statistics show it.

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In Wisconsin, you're more than double likely statistically to be shot if you're white than

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black per capita.

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It's not because there's more whites, no, per capita, per thousand white people, per

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thousand black people, you're more than twice as likely.

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It's BS.

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It's BS.

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This is completely made up and just fabricated from Alex's own war mine full of white fear

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and victimhood fantasies.

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You can find statistics about demographics and shooting deaths.

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And if you look at Wisconsin in 2018 for white people, 8.6 out of 100,000 are killed in a

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shooting and for black people, that number is twenty five point five.

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Maybe Alex is just talking about police related shootings, maybe.

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The Associated Press reported that in 2019, there were 16 people killed in police shootings

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in Wisconsin and 11 of them were white.

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Three were black and two were Hispanic.

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That sounds like a situation where white people were four times more likely to be shot by

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the police.

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But per capita, this is not adjusted for population.

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There we go.

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According to the 2018 census numbers, Wisconsin's population is eighty seven percent white,

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six percent black and eight percent, sorry, seven percent Hispanic or Latino.

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That means that although the population is eighty seven percent white, white people only

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comprise approximately sixty eight percent of the police shooting deaths in that year,

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which is disproportionate to population distribution.

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Similarly, the number for black police shooting victims does not match population.

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Black people make up six percent of the population, but approximately 18 percent of the police

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shooting deaths.

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The Hispanic population sees the same phenomenon, where seven percent of the population represents

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approximately 12 percent of the police shootings.

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Alex is making shit up that fits into his predetermined racist narrative.

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He has nothing to back up the bullshit he's throwing around.

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It's just a pathetic attempt to argue that you shouldn't have to care about police brutality

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directed to groups who aren't white.

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Yeah.

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So very boring at this point and very racist.

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If I don't like the reality, I will just say it's not.

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Yep.

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So Alex takes some calls and most of them suck.

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But there's a guy who owns a gun store, who sells guns.

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That's exciting.

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He wants to tell Alex that it's too late to buy guns, like there aren't a lot of guns

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available on the retail market.

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And one of the points that he makes is actually really like a very responsible point.

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And that is that if you want to buy a gun, you have an obligation to train and to teach

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yourself how to use the gun.

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And that takes ammunition.

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And so if you want to buy masses of ammunition in order to train, you're going to have a

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really hard time finding that in a lot of markets.

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Alex struggles with it.

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There's a weird response.

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Being prepared for that, the good stuff, the sub-lot buck.

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I mean, it's hardly coming in.

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Ammunition is going to be back until probably about February or March.

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A lot of preparedness for getting ammunition in bulk and being able to train and use it

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is kind of fast right now.

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Well, we're all doomed then.

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Seriously, I mean, anybody can take a shotgun out in the backyard and in the country and

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shoot coffee cans at 20 yards and learn how to shoot in five minutes.

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I mean, it's pretty, that's why women are taught to be scared of guns.

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So Alex, I don't think as a respect for teaching how to use guns responsibly, I think he probably

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minimizes that a little bit.

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But the thing that I think is really weird is that like Alex should be yelling about

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how there's no guns.

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Well, he doesn't have a permit.

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He doesn't have a concealed carry, does he?

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Well, no, we only know that for sure in 2015.

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Oh, that's rough.

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We don't know that for sure now, but yeah, I imagine he has no interest in...

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But part of his brand is making people fear about scarcity and like there's no food, the

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supply chains are breaking down.

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So why is it like, nah, anybody can get a gun, it's fine.

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He's trying to panic everybody about everything else.

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This makes no sense.

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That is weird.

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Yeah, I don't get it.

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I guess because he doesn't sell guns.

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Maybe.

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He never has.

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He sold gun parts at a certain point.

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In the same way, maybe it almost makes him feel good, like, see, guns are flying off

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the shelves.

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I'm doing my job.

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No, because he would celebrate that back when Obama was president.

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Sure, that's true.

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Everyone's buying guns and that's a great sign that liberty is on the rise.

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Everyone's out of guns because we're buying so many.

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So now we're all going to die.

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Yeah, this doesn't match either of his sides.

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What is he doing?

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I don't know.

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But we're going to end this episode here, Jordan, with a couple of clips of Alex having

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another guest.

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Oh, no.

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And it's the same guest.

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Ali Alexander?

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You bet.

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Oh, God.

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This weirdo is back.

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I really think Alex is trying to hire him.

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Anyway, here's Ali saying that something really stupid.

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The Catholics believe that mass, and we evangelicals just call it church on Sunday, the Sabbath,

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is a sacrament and that it keeps a portal to hell closed.

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And the Catholics have a prophecy about the Restrainer.

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And the Satanists are everywhere burning churches all over the world right now.

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And they get caught, they go, oh, Satan told me to do it.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Who are you people?

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Have you read a book?

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I've been to a number of churches across all sorts of denominations.

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I've been to Jewish temples, I've been to Baha'i temples, I've been to mosques.

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I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone be like, well, you know, we're here to keep that portal

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to hell closed.

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Hey, everybody.

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Just so you know, look, I know this is a social gathering.

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We are doing the potluck later, but let's not forget the reason for the season to make

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sure that this portal to hell stays closed.

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Now, I know that we're all, you know, we all have social lives.

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Of course.

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We're all busy, but someone's always got to be here to keep that portal closed.

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You got to keep that portal closed.

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So I'm going to need you to take my shift to keeping the portal closed.

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So are you telling me that this chain has been unbroken the entire time?

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Nobody's had to take a smoke break and forgot and left the portal unlocked?

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Oh, shit.

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Nobody has fucked up one time.

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Zero-nuclear weapons have had more fuck-ups.

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It's very, it's very weird.

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So this is the last clip in.

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It's Ali complaining about how people call the devil Lucifer.

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They use those interchangeably.

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Oh, how dare they?

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This is just like, this is where I was just like, you guys are fucking assholes.

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And so, I mean, I don't want to get super religious or super spiritual.

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The devil masquerades as an angel of light.

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Exactly.

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That's his old title, Alex.

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Right.

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He was Lucifer.

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Right.

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And now he is Satan.

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And now he is the devil.

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He's no longer Lucifer.

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And we shouldn't use those terms interchangeably.

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That's right.

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The devil worshipers and Luciferians, they still say he's Lucifer.

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Right.

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They still say he has that office.

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He's not in that office anymore.

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Right.

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Hey, hey, hey, don't call him Lucifer.

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He got fired.

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All right.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'm fine with this show.

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I'm fine with it.

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Here's what they do.

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Here's how I allow Info Wars to continue on in perpetuity.

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They are allowed to sit there and talk the same way that they normally are.

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However, they are both in dunk tanks.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So when they say something stupid like that, everybody gets together and they throw fucking

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balloons at that dunk tank.

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But it's got to be for charity.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And for leftward causes that they- Every single one goes to trans rights and-

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And it's got to-

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VIPOC causes and everything.

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It has to be a thing where Alex is mad both about the charitable stuff and being wet.

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And being wet all the time.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I would say I really resented that end of this episode because-

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Just fuck.

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It's-

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Don't call them both elves, okay?

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There's multiple races of elves.

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Come on now.

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You got the dark elves.

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You got the sardifons.

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It's a weird denial of the circumstances of the world that they're operating within.

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So I mean, when we come to the end of this, there are obviously things that have happened

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since this.

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And they're like, Alex is probably responding more since media matters put out an article

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about him.

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And the things that are on his radar when people talk about his connection to events

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that happen in the world.

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So I assume that there is a blow up in the future coming.

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But if you look at just this section of time, it's really interesting to me because when

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I ask myself, do I think that there is an actual connection?

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I don't know.

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I don't think so.

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Like I don't think Alex is that interested in the events that are happening in Kenosha

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outside of what he does all the time.

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It doesn't feel like he behaved in any way differently than he does all the time.

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Now at the same time, his show on the 24th was intensely based on fear about these street

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things.

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And there are things that he's saying that can be taken to be interpreted as calls for

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people to get involved and do things.

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Him saying now that the police have stood down, we can make our move on you, muttering

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out to break.

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You know, there are a lot of things like that that are pretty fucked up.

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But do I think that those things are things that you could make a solid argument that

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maybe the shooter heard and was like, well, I better get to Kenosha.

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I don't know.

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I think that case is thin.

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Now, that being said, I don't know, I said this in the beginning, I don't think that's

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really all that important.

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I think his behavior is disgraceful.

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I think it's just a damn shame.

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And it fits the larger pattern that we discussed at the beginning of this episode, which is

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those behaviors that are more likely to create outcomes like that.

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Right, right, right.

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I just see that we have allowed and sat by while the most profitable media enterprises

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in the world are stochastic terrorists.

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Like that's that's what we've got.

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So to me, to me, it's just like that's it's a matter of timing, who you want to blame

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it on.

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You know, like you were saying, it's unfortunate timing, unfortunate, you know, as it is for

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them to have reposted that militia article.

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But if this happened two weeks from now, then maybe Tucker Carlson would have posted a similar

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article.

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It has nothing to do with who individually these people are absorbing their information

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from because they're all getting it from stochastic terrorists.

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It appears that the picture of the ecosystem is far more important than a single plant.

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And that makes it really difficult because, I mean, like there was a time when you could

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be far more confident in tracing fingerprints of something that was like, that's some Alex

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totally, totally.

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And that's not really the case.

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There's so much that's like, well, there are a lot of fucking places this dick could have

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gotten these ideas from and it's fucking could have gotten it directly from the goddamn

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president.

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Yeah.

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If you want to deal with stochastic terrorists, blame it on Trump too.

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Sure.

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And I think some people have made that connection.

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Well, obviously.

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Yeah.

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And the thing that I think is what I keep coming back to on this is that these articles

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and these people who are trying to make connections to Alex, I get it and I don't think they're

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wrong.

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I think it's incomplete.

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And I think that the better conversation to have is one that is about the larger ecosystem

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if possible.

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Agreed.

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Because literally when talking about Alex, don't just talk about like, A, in the days

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before the shootings he had X, Y, or Z, there's a much fuller picture that is like he has

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an M.O. that is operating in search of things like this happening.

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Totally.

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And then when it does happen, he acts predictably by justifying it as self-defense.

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And it's completely predictable and it's mirrored almost identically by people like Tucker.

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He said it was going to happen.

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And it did because, yeah.

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So I don't know, I apologize, but I don't have any phone calls.

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I didn't have time to gather any before the show because we were in a real-

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Time crunch.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we got to run, but we'll give you double the calls next time.

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Ooh.

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Maybe.

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Okay.

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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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It's knowledgefight.net.

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Go to bed, Jordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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If you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes.

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Ready to leave a review.

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But if you could, please, more importantly, find a local charity or bail fund in your

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area to support the people doing God's work right now.

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Yes.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.