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Hello Alex, I'm a statesman, hello, I'm a huge fan
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. We're a couple dudes. We like to sit around, drink
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novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan.
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Quick question. Sure. Have you ever been submerged in a body of water fully clothed? Yeah. On purpose
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or by being pushed or the like? I mean probably. I know like it would probably it would only stick
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out to me in terms of like if I was pushed into something, right? I mean like it would be a
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some bullying incident or something. Or like if you had a party and all of you, all of your and
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your friends jumped into the river. I really don't think that that is an uncommon thing in my life.
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I can't think of like specific things but like swimming in clothes in Missouri. You've jumped
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into too many. Yeah, it doesn't, the reason I'm having a tough time with your question is because
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it's happened so many times. Why is this weird? We'd go to the swimming hole and jump it. I know
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that I sound like I'm being all like, oh yeah. Tom Sawyer. Right. I'm not. There were places
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that we had that we would go have some booze, smoke some weed, jump in the water. But I guess
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one, so there was a time that there was like a little creek type, maybe even a lake-ish. It's not
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a lake. It was not a lake. Pond? Pond. Little pond. Not too far away from my house. And you know,
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whenever it would become winter, we would go out and like try and play on the ice and such. I
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remember one year I did fall in through the ice. No shit. And that was terrifying. That is a
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fucking nightmare of mine. I was in, I mean, it's not a gigantic pond. It wasn't like really deep.
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Like it wasn't a situation like one of those things you see in movies or someone falls through
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the ice and they can't find the hole. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's my nightmare. That is a nightmare.
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Whenever people, you can see them through the ice and they've got their hands on there and they're
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like, I don't know where to go. That was terrifying. Oh God. I just fell in into freezing
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water. So my concern was far more like I'm going to get hypothermia. I was able to get out of the
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water, but it was terrifying. I guess that's the only time that really sticks out of being in water
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in my clothes. That sounds like the horrifying experience that should stick out. Yeah. I mean,
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I was, I was a young man too. So, you know, you're just like, well, I'm going to lose my,
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my toes now. That'll stick with you. Yeah. Anyway. I don't think it's weird to be in bodies of water
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with your clothes on like Jordan seems to because he's a, he's a liberal city elite. He hates the
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out of doors, scared of the dark. But I do know a lot about Alex Jones. And I don't know anything
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about either. Right. So today, Jordan, we had an interesting episode to go over. We are sticking
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in the present day. We're going over February 7th, 2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020. That's Friday's
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episode. And then we're also going over a special episode that Alex put out on Saturday. Very
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uncommon for him by usually only has shows Monday through Friday and Sunday episode this week,
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he decided fucking double down and see on our hands. Got to do a Saturday episode. I assume
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that means he needed to sell more food. You bet. Okay. So there'll be a bit of coronavirus.
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That's what Alex is going through today. But I believe that this is still worth talking about
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because there is an evolution. I think that much like viruses evolve and mutate. Sure. Alex's
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coverage of the Wuhan coronavirus situation is changing in front of our eyes and it takes a very
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severe step on Friday's episode. All right. So he's David Duchovny or Orlando Jones in this
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version of evolution. It's not good. What he's doing is not good, much like the movie Evolution,
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starring David Duchovny and Orlando Jones. We're going to get down to business on this,
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but before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have
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So, Jordan, today, like I said,
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February 7th and 8th, 2020, it's going to be interesting.
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Here is an out of context drop from today's show.
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Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
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Fair enough.
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I'm going to need some hard numbers on that.
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He does not have a study to back
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him up.
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You need to cite a source on that.
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I will say that that's about the most
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real thing that he said.
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So at least most reasonable to assume.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Fairest thing.
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So we start here on the 7th and Alex has an announcement
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and I got pretty excited about this.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are broadcasting worldwide
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on this Friday transmission.
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And we have a very special.
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Yes, joining us, but I'm going to go to rebroadcast
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for a little while.
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What information I got to work on?
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And then I'm going to come back
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with all this breaking news and information today, OK?
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And I have Dr.
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Francis Boyle, creator of the Bio Weapons Act, says
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coronavirus is biological warfare weapon.
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And he's got in-depth
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intel that's breaking that no one else has.
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And, you know, this type of person has a lot of big contacts
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at the United Nations and worldwide.
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He was also Slobodan Milosevic's lawyer.
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What?
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Let me just he was what people he's connected to.
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Wait, hold on. What?
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Oh, what?
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Wait, hold on. What?
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No, no, no, no, no. What?
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You can trust him.
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He was Slobodan Milosevic's lawyer.
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Hold on. Yeah, no, hold on.
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An important point here that Alex really should clarify
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is that Francis Boyle was not Slobodan Milosevic's lawyer.
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That would be a fucking weird credential for a bio weapons expert,
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considering the fact that Milosevic was an authoritarian ruler
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who was tried at the Hague for violating the Geneva Convention.
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Yeah, Roger Stone was his lawyer.
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It sure would be strange for Alex to be bragging about one of his guests
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credentials by saying he had defended the first sitting world leader
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to ever be charged with war crimes.
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Right. Boyle was not Milosevic's lawyer, but Alex doesn't care about the details.
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In reality, Boyle, he did file charges to the International Court of Justice,
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accusing Serbia under Milosevic of committing genocide
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against the Bosnian Muslim population.
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While it's not up for discussion whether or not a genocide took place
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in the Bosnian war, it had not been decided in a court
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if Serbia and Milosevic had directly or indirectly been responsible
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for those crimes.
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That trial resulted in the determination
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that Serbia was not directly or indirectly involved in the genocide,
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but that they were responsible for not doing
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they were responsible in the sense that they didn't do what they needed
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to have done to prevent it. Sure.
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Whatever you're feeling about that result of the trial.
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Francis Boyle was not a lawyer making arguments in that case.
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He was just the person who drafted the filing that led to the opening of that case.
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Gotcha. Alex saying that Francis Boyle was Slobodan Milosevic's lawyer
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is a deeply troubling slip up and his seeming knowledge base.
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Not only does Alex not realize that Boyle, you know,
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was involved in trying to get Milosevic charged with genocide,
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he doesn't seem to know that saying someone was Milosevic's lawyer
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would not be a great thing for them to have on their resume.
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Everyone deserves a fair defense, Dan.
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That's in the Constitution. Totally. Totally.
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Except for Slobodan fucking Milosevic.
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He does not get a fair defense.
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Alex doesn't seem to be aware that Slobodan Milosevic
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is one of the modern era's big villains.
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And that seems to me to be a little worried. That is a trouble.
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So, Francis Boyle has been a lawyer representing a few groups in the past.
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However, you know, Ceausescu, Mao, you know, all the heavy hitters.
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Alex could have brought those things up.
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Like, for instance, he's been advisor for the Hawaiian independence groups for years,
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which Alex could possibly bring up, but he probably wouldn't want to do that
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since it involves people who don't think America is so great
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and don't want to be a part of it.
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I don't think he wants Hawaii to have independence.
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It doesn't seem like it. He wants more Hawaiians.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Or Alex would bring up the fact that Boyle has been an advisor for the Palestinian authority,
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but he probably wouldn't want to do that since Alex hates Palestinians.
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In the interest of being fully clear, I support Palestinian rights,
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but I don't think I necessarily agree with Boyle's position,
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which seems to be in favor of the destruction of Israel.
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Right.
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And he has also called it Jewistan in the past,
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so I think he might be a little bit off of what I agree with.
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See, that's where you get to that full circle situation
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where it's like somebody's so anti-Semitic,
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they're accidentally doing something that's helpful for all the wrong reasons.
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I'm not entirely sure exactly what his deal is.
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There are a lot of people who have some questions,
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so I'll say that if you look into it.
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Well, Milosevic couldn't even afford him, so who knows?
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In January 2018, Fox 55 out of Champaign, Illinois,
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ran a story about how for the 10th year in a row,
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Boyle was trying to get St. Patrick's Day celebrations cancelled
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because of a concern the kids were going to get drunk and commit crimes.
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He wanted bars and liquor stores to be banned from offering drink specials
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or advertising for the event,
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which seems like Alex might say it would have a chilling effect on free speech.
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Yeah, he also outlawed dancing in Champaign.
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Very close, dude.
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Very close.
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He doesn't want people getting drunk on St. Patrick's Day.
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As recently as a month ago,
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Boyle was making appearances on podcasts arguing that Trump needs to be impeached,
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primarily for his complicity with Saudi Arabia and their atrocities in Yemen.
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Alex probably doesn't want to bring that up,
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but to be fair, also, Boyle has called for every president
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since at least Clinton to be impeached, so...
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That I don't think is that wrong.
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That's one of the ones where I think I might be fine with that.
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And that's where we get into something that's really tough,
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and that is that Francis Boyle is a bit of a complicated figure
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from a political perspective.
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He definitely has some real entries in his resume,
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mostly ending about 15 years ago.
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He has some positions that I think I can get down with,
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like Hawaiian independence,
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but he also seems to really disproportionately hate Israel.
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And the way he expresses his opposition there
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seems to imply feelings that are more than political in nature,
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and I don't think I can get on board with that.
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I want Hawaiian independence so the Jews can't get it.
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God damn it, no!
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No! Boyle, no!
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Whatever the case about his sort of agreement
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on some things like Hawaiian independence or Palestinian rights,
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I do not know what he is up to,
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and I would just as soon not consider him an ally
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to the positions that I have.
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It's too confusing.
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And whatever the case, he was not Milosevic's lawyer.
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Alex has no idea what he's talking about, pretty much ever.
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However, I'm glad that Alex is back on the show now,
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and he has Francis Boyle on,
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because now we can actually hear what arguments he has,
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as opposed to the last time he was on,
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because Owen Schroyer interviewed him,
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and I have no interest in listening to that.
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So we will get to hear what Francis Boyle brings to the table
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in terms of the bioweapon argument.
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I'm not excited.
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No, you shouldn't be. It's very disappointing.
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So Alex has a new theory
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about the Wuhan novel coronavirus.
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Right.
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It's not good.
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I'll give you that.
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Okay. I'll give you that up front.
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Here is sort of Alex fleshing it out a little bit.
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Now, is this a cover for the fact
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that the Chinese economy was imploding?
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They lost their trade war with the US,
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and major civil uprisings?
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Definitely not.
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Well, let's look at the different pieces.
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Okay.
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This coronavirus is conclusively from the SARS family.
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The communist Chinese have been caught four times
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releasing it out of their laps.
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Doesn't sound like accidents to me.
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So the implication is now becoming
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that China released this on itself intentionally.
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Right. It's a false flag.
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We got a false flag on our hands.
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We got a false flag, baby.
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Because they've released it four times before.
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Okay.
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So first of all, it's really important
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to recognize how Alex operates very consistently
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in the realm of speculation.
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He's introduced this whole segment
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basically as him spit balling.
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So there's no real need for him to come to a conclusion.
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And even if he does eventually make definitive statements,
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that's really just him looking at all the angles
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or some shit.
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That's how he feels.
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So he's speculating that China was ashamed
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that they lost this trade war with Trump,
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which I'm not sure is accurate at all.
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And to save face, they've launched a bioweapon attack
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on themselves that's disrupting their economy
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and definitely not helping on that front.
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Right.
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On its face, this makes no sense.
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Even without analysis, this theory should be discounted
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because it's dumb as shit.
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Yeah, it's not just throwing the baby out
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with the bathwater.
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It's never having taken a bath and just killing your baby.
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What's a bath?
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Yeah, exactly.
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As to Alex saying that China released SARS four times,
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I would call on him to prove that claim.
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There was the mainland SARS outbreak
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that occurred between 2002 and 2003.
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But since that was dealt with,
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it is true that there have been reappearances of SARS.
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That, however, is not the same thing
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as saying China released it four times.
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So let's take a look at some of those reappearances.
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Spider-Man one, Spider-Man two, Spider-Man,
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how many Spider-Mans have there been?
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There's been four.
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Uh-oh.
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At least.
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It's predictive programming.
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So on January 4th, 2004,
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a man in Southern China came down with SARS.
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But all indications in his case had led experts
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to believe that he was infected
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through human-animal contact, which makes sense.
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In 2017, The Guardian reported on Chinese researchers
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who had finally traced down the origin of SARS
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to a colony of bats.
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It was initially believed that the source was civet cats,
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but further research found that those cats
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were actually just an intermediate step
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between the bats and humans.
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This same article discusses how another SARS outbreak
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is very possible, given the absence of a SARS vaccine
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and the fact that animal-human transmission
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could very well happen again.
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This is very much likely what happened
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with this guy in 2004.
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Sounds right.
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The rest of them are the product of lab accidents.
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In 2003, in August, a virology grad student in Singapore
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was exposed to SARS in a lab that he worked at,
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but didn't end up infecting anyone else and was treated.
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That was one reappearance.
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In December 2003, a SARS researcher was infected.
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All of the people he had been in contact with
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were quarantined, and none of them came down with SARS.
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An investigation found that he'd been working
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with hazardous materials in improper settings,
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or not improper settings, but he wasn't using
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proper protocol, and didn't have a correct uniform,
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like gloves and a mask.
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He had behaved in ways that were made at high risk.
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He wandered in with shorts and a Hawaiian shirt
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and was like, let's play around with viruses today, guys.
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Maybe not literally true, but spiritually accurate.
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He was not adhering to proper protocol in this lab
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where he was researching SARS, and he ended up getting it.
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I like the, I like the balls on a guy who's like
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working with one of the most dangerous viruses
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that you can get, and he's just like,
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eh, I mean, gloves are a lot to put on today, you know?
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That's not China releasing SARS,
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but that would have to be one of the instances
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that Alex is talking about.
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Absolutely.
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So then in April 2004, the Chinese Ministry of Health
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reported three cases of SARS,
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one of them leading to a death.
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This was the result of a laboratory researcher
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at the Institute of Virology, which did research SARS,
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although this person didn't actually directly
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research SARS, just clearly this is where
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they contracted the virus.
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This researcher then infected the nurse
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who was attending to her, as well as her mother
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who was there at the hospital.
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Her mother tragically passed away,
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but the virus didn't spread further than this.
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Going over the details of these additional SARS cases
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outside of the initial outbreak,
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it really seems hard for me to see any proof of China
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intentionally releasing SARS in any of them.
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One seems like an open and shut natural case,
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and the rest can largely be attributed
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to poor procedural controls and lab settings.
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The guy in December 2003 seems to be the product
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of his own negligence, the guy with the Hawaiian shirt,
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as you called him, not some kind of state attempt
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at a bioweapon release.
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Right, right, right.
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I imagine he's played by Pauly Shore in this situation.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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China in specific and East Asia in general
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lost a ton of money during the SARS outbreak.
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An article in Reuters cites a research paper
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putting the total at a loss of $15 billion in GDP
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just from that outbreak.
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If there's some kind of motive
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that Alex is trying to suggest that involves the economy,
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his argument is ludicrous.
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No country would ever release a bioweapon on themselves
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to save face or shore up their economy.
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That's just ridiculous.
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Yeah, $15 billion in your GDP of China,
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what, 20 years ago?
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That's like five to 10% of their entire GDP wiped away.
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I'm not entirely sure what exactly it is,
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but it's not
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unconscionable. It's a lot, yeah.
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It's a relevant amount.
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Yeah.
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So that theory's bullshit.
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Right.
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I'm gonna toss that into the trash bin.
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Bye.
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So Alex is like trying to think about like,
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I need experts, I need experts to talk to.
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I got Francis Boyle coming up,
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he's gonna tell me about bioweapons.
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Right.
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But what about people who know things about China?
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He doesn't know any of them.
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Well, he knows one guy.
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Oh, no.
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In fact, I forget his name.
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Who's that famous human rights activist
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that got China open to US adoptions?
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He worked with the CIA and we've had him
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when he lives in Canada.
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He's really smart.
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And I've been thinking, what is his name?
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And I can't remember it.
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Guys, get him back on immediately.
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If you wanna remember who I'm talking about,
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call him and call him and tell us.
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We don't need to wait for the callers.
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I remember who that is.
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It's Jim Garrow.
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We've talked about him a bit in the past.
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He's the guy who runs that operation called Pink Pagoda,
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which he claims is helping arrange adoptions
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of Chinese children.
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He was the one who claimed that he was stealing
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and human trafficking children and he was doing it proudly.
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Well, I mean, yes, if he's not making it all up.
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Which he most, almost certainly is, yes.
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Because journalists and researchers
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who have tried to corroborate anything he says
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about his adoption operations have come up completely empty.
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And when they've tried to ask him for any kind of evidence
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to prove his claims, he's like, no, for the safety of people
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I will not prove anything.
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Excuse me, sir.
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Where exactly are the thousands of children
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that you have taken from China?
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Thousands of children that you have claimed.
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Yeah, it seems like the more likely thing
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is that he's scamming.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, he was arrested in 2014 for having an illegal gun,
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which he claimed wasn't his.
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He currently now, he has a bunch of profiles
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of promoting himself to get acting gigs.
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So I assume that if Alex calls, he'll be showing back up.
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Yeah, I imagine so.
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Interestingly, Jim's acting bio seems
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to not mention any of his extravagant adventures,
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like saving everybody in China.
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Has he filmed a lot of movies in China, Dan?
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No.
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Do they?
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No.
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Also, his bio doesn't seem to mention the time
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that Obama tried to kill him or the claim
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that he was in the CIA for 45 years.
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Right, that would be some good experience
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to put on your acting resume.
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You know, you play that you can get jobs playing
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the experienced CIA guy all day.
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Quote, having meddled away my life in various settings,
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I've come to the conclusion that enjoying all that is brought
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to you is part of growing up.
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As a foreigner coming in from Scotland,
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I was open to the new world and all of its experiences.
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I did some degrees, became a teacher, principal,
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college president, teacher's college principal,
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and found myself in China opening schools
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and bringing students back to North America.
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Then I did a small commercial for a resort in China
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and loved the experience.
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So that's his bio on his acting website.
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I refuse to accept that.
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Take that down.
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I want to cease and desist on that.
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Jim Garrow is a complete con man,
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but he's someone Alex looks at as a credible source
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to base his positions on.
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This is just a pathetic level of non-vetting.
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Honestly, I hope Alex does have him back on,
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because based on his past record,
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Jim Garrow is the sort of hard swinging crazy dude
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that I need to find love for the game again.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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His claims are big.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It would be pretty fun.
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It's between him and, you know,
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if Zagami weren't such a heavyweight in the field,
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I think he would be at least number two behind CBPs.
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He doesn't, like Leo doesn't seem
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to know much about China, though.
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He's not somebody that Alex can get into this season.
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That's true.
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But I feel like once you orchestrate 9-11,
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you're up in the pantheon, right?
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That's true.
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Of hard swinging claims.
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Unfortunately, Alex is actually thinking
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of a different guest, but ascribing pieces
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of Jim Garrow's resume to him.
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Alex later comes up with this dude's name.
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It's Stephen Mosher.
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We've talked about him a bit in the past, too.
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He was the guy who was an anthropological research student
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in 1979 when he went to China to do a cultural study.
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He published an article describing
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the Chinese government's practice
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of forcing women to get abortions,
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which ultimately led to him getting expelled
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from his PhD program at Stanford.
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People like Alex would likely say
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that he was expelled because he dared criticize China,
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but the reality is that he published photos
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and identifying information about the women
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who were his informants, which is a clear breach
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of ethics that put these women's lives at risk.
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I don't want to put this too bluntly,
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but it's a very serious decision
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when a school kicks out a PhD candidate.
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That's not the same thing as getting kicked out
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of your undergrad program for plagiarism
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or partying too hard.
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Universities make a great investment
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in the people they choose to accept for PhD consideration,
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and I know from conversations with doctoral advisors
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at high profile colleges, read my dad,
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that typically schools do whatever they can
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to not kick out PhD candidates.
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In the case of Mosher, the board voted
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to expel him 11 to zero.
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Mosher tried to appeal his expulsion,
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but Stanford stood firm and explained some of the reasons
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they were upholding his dismissal.
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One of them was regarding a tape his ex-wife had given them
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where he bragged about lying about having
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top secret clearance in order to pretend to be a courier
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to get a free flight from California to Japan.
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Uh, why do people put, everybody's recording.
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Everybody's always recording.
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He's a fraud guy.
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Keep it quiet.
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The school also had hired a private detective
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who had determined that Mosher had fabricated
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at least one sales receipt for a camera
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that he had purchased for his work, which is suspicious.
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As Stanford's then president, Donald Kennedy, described it,
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he seemed to have a, quote, pattern of behavior
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towards those you deal with.
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The school was right to expel him.
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You just can't take the risk of being associated
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with someone who would operate that way.
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Like multiple instances of real disingenuous practices,
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you just like, this puts your work at question.
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You can't do that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Since then, he's basically written a bunch of books
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about how evil China is.
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Along the way, in 1996, he founded
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the Population Research Institute, which portrays itself
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as a group trying to debunk the lies of overpopulation,
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but it's actually just a pro-life advocacy group.
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The institute really is just a Catholic anti-contraception,
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anti-abortion front that Mosher took over in 1996
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when Paul Marx, a Catholic priest who was an early leader
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in the pro-life movement, stepped down.
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In the ensuing years to the present day,
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they branched off into the predictable hard-right
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talking points like denying climate change
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and being anti-LGBTQ rights.
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Of course.
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They're very untransparent about where their funding
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comes from, because of course they are,
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but it's known that between 1999 and 2002,
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they received at least $130,000
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from the Lind and Harry Bradley Foundation.
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This is without a doubt a small chunk
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of the right-wing billionaire money
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that's coming into that institute
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in order for them to push their nonsense.
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Alex was absolutely thinking of Jim Caro
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based on all the details that he gave.
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Caro pretends he was in the CIA,
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he pretends he was involved in Chinese adoptions,
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and he lives in Canada.
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None of these things apply to Mosher.
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Alex legitimately can't keep any of his guests'
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nonsense backstories straight because they're all bullshit.
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Yeah.
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They're all just fabricated.
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He can't remember right.
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To the point where I bet if he gave Mosher's credits
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as that, Mosher would be like,
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oh shit, did I make those lies?
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Oh God, am I?
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Yeah, I totally did all that stuff, Alex.
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I'm sure.
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Except for he lives in Canada.
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That one would be.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
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That one's tough to get around.
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So you heard at the beginning of the show,
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Alex was saying like, I gotta go off air
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for a little bit to get my notes right.
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Yeah, which is like.
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Like a special report or two,
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but I don't know if he actually got anything right,
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but he is weird at the beginning of the episode.
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Coming to work an hour early.
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It would help.
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Yeah.
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If you're tuning in and saying,
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what's Jones doing right now?
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He's saying interesting things, but he's all over the map.
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I am brainstorming right now on air.
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Not good.
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Have a pre-show meeting.
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Because what happens is I get shit
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and I have my line of thought,
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and then it's my fault, I get easily distracted,
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and that happens at the very start of the show.
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And then I've got to reset.
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So let me just do that as best I can here right now.
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All that is is I don't prepare anything.
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I'm just sort of winging it.
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Yeah.
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That's all he's saying.
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That's basically what he's saying.
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If I seem distracted, it's because I'm trying to wing it.
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I am easily confused.
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Yeah.
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So Alex's big take on the China situation
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is so far we've seen, he's decided it's a bioweapon
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that China released on itself, most likely.
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Yes.
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And one of the reasons he thinks this
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is because he's never seen such a reaction to an outbreak.
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He expresses that here.
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Really?
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He expresses that in this next clip,
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and I think it's just so stupid.
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We can talk all day about how bad's it gonna be,
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what are they covering up, why the giant response,
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but the media's saying it's no big deal at the same time,
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why the unified global response,
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which you've never seen before, at least I haven't.
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Correct me if I'm wrong with a case example.
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Okay.
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So what Alex is saying is completely insane
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and means nothing.
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Is he really suggesting that there hasn't been instances
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of outbreaks being met with international cooperation before
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because that's a really dumb thing to say.
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Sovereign nations solve their problems by themselves, Dan.
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He wants a case example?
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Okay, SARS, MERS, Ebola, Zika,
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all were handled with international efforts.
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I don't understand.
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What does he mean by unified global response?
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He just throws that.
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Nobody's rooting for SARS this time.
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He just throws terms around
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and then stakes idiotic claims on them.
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That's like half of his skill as a broadcaster.
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Back then, Chile was all in for SARS.
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Chile was rooting for SARS the whole time.
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Just to be different.
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Exactly, this is the first time the world is united
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and saying viruses are bad.
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So I'm gonna tell you a little bit
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about the 2002, 2003 SARS outbreak,
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and then you can tell me if you think
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that this is a unified global response.
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On November 16th, 2002, China reports the first case
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of atypical pneumonia.
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More cases pop up, and then by March 2003,
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the World Health Organization issues a global alert,
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which puts into motion an international response.
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Within two days, the CDC has established
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an emergency operations center here in the United States,
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and three days after that,
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an international network of 11 labs
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start working in conjunction to determine the cause
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of the outbreak and figure out its genome.
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By July 5th, the World Health Organization
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declares the outbreak contained,
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with no local transmissions
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within the virus' incubation period.
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A piece in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization
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discusses the lessons that were learned in the outbreak
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by Brian Doberstein, the director of the Division
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for Combating Communicable Diseases
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for the World Health Organization's regional office
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of the Western Pacific.
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Here is one of his main takeaways.
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Quote, what was gratifying was that during the SARS outbreak
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in 2003, there was unprecedented collaboration
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among scientists and laboratories around the world
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to work together to identify the causative agent,
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map its genome, and develop reliable diagnostic tests.
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Even in the face of Chile's resistance.
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There was openness and willingness
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to share critical scientific information promptly.
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As a result, the virus was identified
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and its genome mapped within weeks of the outbreak.
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The scientific world was shown at its best.
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That sure as shit sounds to me
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like a unified global response being discussed.
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That article in the Bulletin literally ends with this line.
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Quote, no man is an island
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and no country can fight a global public health threat alone.
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Every single case of a public health emergency
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will ultimately require a unified global response.
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Putting it bluntly, Alex is just talking complete shit.
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He's just making stuff up.
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And what he's saying doesn't mean anything.
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Look, governments do so much evil shit.
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Why can't for once we all root
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for the International Coalition of People Stopping Viruses?
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This is the one thing where can't we all be like,
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fuck yeah, the CDC and the WHO are kicking ass.
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Why can't we just do that for one thing?
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Why does Alex have to be a dick about everything?
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I'm not entirely sure if I could pinpoint it to one reason,
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but I think it might be a constellation of things.
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And what, oh God, I don't even want to play you this clip.
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So Alex has decided that this is a false flag attack
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that China did on themselves.
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And now it evolves even further.
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How?
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Alex is suggesting now that it's a race-specific bioweapon
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meant to just attack the Chinese,
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that the Chinese are doing to themselves.
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And along the way-
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He thinks all Chinese people are, nevermind.
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Along the way.
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I'm not even gonna bother, I'm not even gonna start there.
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Along the way, he might reveal himself
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to be a bit of a racial science guy.
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Oh no.
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But it's serious, and they're covering up
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what's really going on, and it's just incredible to me
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that it's so obviously a bioweapon,
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and that it's so obviously race-specific
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on record for Chinese men.
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I mean, it's so specific.
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The Chinese genome is so close.
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Only other group maybe as closely related
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for a large population as Koreans.
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What, what, what?
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And so they're just tailor-made
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for a race-specific bioweapon.
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Because you don't want to use one-
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What?
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A race-specific bioweapon that, say, kills a mongrel,
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which we think of as a bad term.
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It's a good term, you know, for genetically
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being able to fend off against things.
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Everybody knows that pure breeds eat diseases easier.
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And so look at British royalty and people.
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They're very sickly, they're very mentally ill.
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I'm not knocking Chinese folks.
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They're real smart and got some great average.
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But on average, there's problems with being inbred.
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And just as a genome, the Chinese are very similar.
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I guess my first response to that clip would be like,
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hey, got a citation on any of that?
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Holy shit, man.
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Simply put, I refuse to engage with that.
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Like, I'm not even down for it.
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Because it's not based on anything, and it's deeply racist.
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Even if you ignore the part where he's talking about
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mongrels and how Chinese people are inbred.
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What underlies Alex's position here is a belief
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that there's something genetically distinct
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about people of different races.
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Which is to say that there's some gene or allele
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that makes a Chinese person Chinese.
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And I guess he's somehow, you know,
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he's somehow proven that this coronavirus
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is genetically engineered to specifically target people
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with that Chinese gene.
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This is completely fucked up.
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And it's an instance where I'm just gonna say
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I reject your premise, and I'm not even going
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to dignify this with any sort of discussion.
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Unreal.
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Like, it's...
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Just unreal.
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Many, many, many studies have been done
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about in-group, out-group sort of genetic diversity.
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Oftentimes, you have more genetically in common
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with people who are not part of your ancestral lineage
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than with people who are within your quota.
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What we understand as a racial group,
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it's this is really fucking messed up stuff.
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Yeah, if he keeps talking like that,
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he's gonna be a congressman from Kansas, I believe.
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That's what you get whenever you get that racist?
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I think you get that.
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So Alex goes further down this road.
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It's just bad, man.
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This is bad stuff.
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He goes further down that road?
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Oh yeah.
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That road, you can go further down.
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I thought we had reached the end of that road.
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Oh God.
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And just as a genome, the Chinese are very similar.
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So they're perfect to hit with a bio-weapon
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because you can kill them off and not hurt your own people.
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They're asking for it.
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What does he mean by saying that they're asking for it?
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Wait, so the Chinese government
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is releasing a race-specific bio-weapon
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that targets only Chinese men.
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Dan, do you know what one thing
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most of the Chinese government has in common with itself?
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Men?
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Well, look, here's the issue.
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Alex is kind of wishy-washy throughout
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whether or not China did this to themselves as a false flag.
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Sure, that one's negotiable.
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Yeah, but he's now leaning pretty hard
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into this being a race-specific bio-weapon.
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And because all Chinese people
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are so similar to each other.
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Which they chose to do, Dan.
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They're asking for it.
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I don't even know, man.
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They chose to have a massive geographical location
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with many different subgroups and cultures within it
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and yet still be genetically similar?
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How dare they?
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In that clip, Alex says that the Chinese
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are perfect to hit with a bio-weapon
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because you can kill them off
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while not hurting your own people.
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And I think that what's important to recognize here
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is that Alex thinks very racially.
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He thinks very much in terms of people
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of different ethnic groups not being, quote, his people.
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And I find that mentality to be racist at its core.
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Also in this scenario,
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who is it that's deploying this bio-weapon?
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Because we've talked about it.
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I thought he said he was saying the Chinese did
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because they want to lower the population
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or save face in the trade war or whatever.
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But now it's about eliminating the Chinese
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without risking any non-Chinese losses
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which is incompatible with the previous thought.
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He's all over the place.
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Yeah, that's incoherent.
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I'm guessing he's saying it's the globalists
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but he believes that the globalists are in bed with China
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and want China to take over the world
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so I don't see the motive here.
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Nothing he's saying makes any sense.
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It's complete trash.
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But beneath it is a framework of a very, very racist dude.
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It's an incredibly racist line of thought
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to even entertain.
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Now, I mean, hey, look.
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Because here's the other underlying truth there
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is that you don't think,
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I mean, he must think that skin color
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means complete genetic breaks.
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White people are completely genetically separate
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from black people, from Chinese people,
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from all of those different things.
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That's what I was trying to get at at the last clip.
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Yes, yes, that is what he thinks.
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That's just, that's just bonkers.
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That's, because that's when you,
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that's when I fucking, he's into this like,
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chimpanzees are 97% of the same genetic material
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as a homo sapiens kind of level of shit
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where there are literal, some people are homo sapiens
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and then some people are fucking Chinese in his mind.
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It's tough to figure out exactly what he believes
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because he's not really expressing it
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but the little hints that he gives
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and the little indications lead you to think like,
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oh, oh, oh, oh no.
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That's, that is the, if not out and out,
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the building block of a race superiority,
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genetic superiority argument.
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Yeah, it generally is a piece of it.
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Yeah.
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So the problem I think comes down with,
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I mean, all of it, but one problem is like,
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hey, releasing a biological weapon
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is a big old war crime.
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I mean, yeah, but these days,
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war crimes are within the eye of the poor person
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getting murdered by them.
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Look, dude, it's important to nail down who's doing this.
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Right.
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Now it's suggesting it's a bioweapon release.
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We better know who it is because it's a big crime
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but it turns out in some situations,
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maybe it's not a crime.
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This is perfectly made for Chinese
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and it doesn't just do that.
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If you were morally gonna hit a group
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that was attacking you.
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Morally.
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You would only hit them with something
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that goes after military age men.
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And that's what they're admitting, it's young men.
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No.
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Predominantly this is wiping out.
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So specifically targeted, so specifically made.
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Now, do you think that just fell out of the sky?
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First, I need to get this taken care of right off the bat.
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Under no circumstances is it ethical to deploy a bioweapon
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against a civilian population
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regardless of if it attacks young men,
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regardless if you feel like they're attacking you.
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This is very clear in international law.
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Just possessing something that could be a biological weapon,
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if not explicitly for legitimate research purposes,
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could get you charged with a war crime.
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What Alex is suggesting is that it's,
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he's saying this is ethical.
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It would be a massive international scandal.
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This is a super, super fucked up thing
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that he seems to be okay with
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and I think he kinda sounds like a Nazi.
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Not even like, he's talking about something even deeper
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than that ethical concept.
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He's talking about morals, like God gives you the right,
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so long as you only kill military-aged men,
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to murder people who aren't even combatants.
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I mean, this is an insane argument.
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And unacceptable on any level.
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Also, I have no idea where Alex is getting this information
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that it's mostly military-aged men
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who are dying from the coronavirus.
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Like most diseases.
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According to a report in The Guardian from February 1st,
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they had reviewed demographic information
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that had been released about people who had died
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and naturally, you'd expect most of them
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to be people who are elderly
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or have pre-existing conditions.
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They mostly were, but there were five outliers.
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People aged 36, 50, 53, 55, and 58.
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That, as far as I can tell,
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is not this thing mostly hitting military-aged men.
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I don't know what Alex is talking about
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and I would really need him to cite his sources,
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which he won't do because he doesn't have one.
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He's just trying to find ways to feel good
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about the concept of Chinese people dying.
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The New York Times published an article
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with updated information on February 7th,
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discussing details about 138 cases that they had reviewed.
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One of these cases, I'm sorry, of these cases,
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the median age of the person who got the virus was 56.
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And the median age of someone who got it
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and needed intensive care was 66.
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They found that 54% of the cases in their sample were men,
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though they did point out that other reports
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of different cases claimed a higher percentage of men.
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For instance, Lancet published a report
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about 13 patients in Beijing,
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which had a median age of 34, and 77% of them were men.
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Those are both pretty outside the expected range
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of a broader distribution,
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but considering it's a sample of 13 people,
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it's not necessarily meant to be interpreted
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as representative of the wider population.
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See, that's where we get back to that 77% thing
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where you're like, you're fooled by 77%.
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You're like, well, at the very least,
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that means 77 out of 100, and instead it's eight dudes.
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Actually, I think it was 10, but yeah, your point stands.
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Yeah, I get what you're saying.
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Well, it's why these things are really important
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for people to understand.
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Like, you have to get context for numbers,
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because Alex could just point to this.
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It's 77% of them.
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See, it's so easy.
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But it's 13 people in Beijing very specifically.
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Like, it's not a representative sample.
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And in that situation, if it's only 13 young men in Beijing,
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that means that they're almost certainly people
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who travel around a lot, making them far more likely
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to be exposed to this.
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And it's not to say that all of them were young,
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but the median age was 34.
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So that means there were more younger people
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represented than you would expect.
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Or it means there were five one-year-olds.
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But also, none of those patients died
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or had severe complications.
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It wouldn't be too surprising if there were a lot of people
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across all age groups who get the virus,
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much like people of all ages are susceptible
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to catching the flu.
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It's a matter of it being far more serious
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for older people and people with pre-existing
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health conditions that put them at greater risk.
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Anyway, the bottom line is that I think Alex
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is just making all this up,
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because he's fantasy role-playing.
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But there's something deeply disturbing
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about this new wrinkle to his language.
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Who does he think China was attacking?
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Who does he, he's suggesting that someone
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has the moral right to use a bioweapon
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against Chinese military-aged men because of something.
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What is he doing?
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I have no idea.
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That's the, these guys are so,
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that's why when you hear or when you read about
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all of the times where Trump has just been like,
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well, why don't we nuke him?
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Right.
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And you're like, that's the thinking that these people have,
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that idea that total war makes sense.
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Like, they stopped reading about military strategy
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whenever they read that some people burned crops
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and that's how they won the war.
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And they were like, yeah, hooray, let's starve the boar.
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I mean, it's-
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It's fucked up.
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Yeah, when you have Alex making rationalizations
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for the concept of deploying a biological weapon,
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like even in a hypothetical scenario, you're way past
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anything acceptable.
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So Alex talks a little bit in this next clip,
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suggesting the possibility that we did it.
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The United States did this
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as an attack on Chinese military-aged men
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because China is somehow attacking us.
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That has taken a turn.
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I told you.
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That is a turn.
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I told you, drastic evolution.
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That is a turn.
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Now, do you think that just fell out of the sky?
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No, and the scientists look at it,
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the Indian top scientists,
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everybody else is looking at it and saying the same thing.
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They just get their funding pulled if they say it.
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That's why the US and China and others who have the genome,
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the RNA sequence of the virus will not send it out.
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People are like, why won't you send it out
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so we can identify?
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Because when you get it, you go, my God.
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An oak tree's organic.
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A 57 Chevy's manmade.
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This is a 57 Chevy.
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It's made.
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Now, the big question is,
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did the United States launch us against China
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as a reaction in the war?
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Because China's been secretly attacking us
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and pulling a bunch of stuff.
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What? What?
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I think I have the answer.
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On the other side.
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So we don't get to know if Alex thinks it was us
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who did this because of the secret war.
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Wow. Wow.
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I think we have reached the critical mass of bullshit.
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Yeah, that one.
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Alex is straight up suggesting that it's a possibility
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that the U.S. spread the coronavirus as a bioweapon
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because China's been attacking us
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just after saying it would be ethically right to do that.
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Obviously, the United States didn't do that,
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but Alex is pretending that we might have and justifying it.
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I know that this is a bit of a stretch,
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but Alex hates Somalia.
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So let's say one day Trump decides
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that Somalia's our enemy and they've been attacking us,
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so he uses a biological weapon against them.
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According to what Alex is saying right now,
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it seems like he would have to be okay with it.
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He's normalizing the idea of using bioweapons
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on civilians at peacetime.
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All you have to do is pretend their country is attacking you.
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This is so deeply disturbed.
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He needs to get off air.
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Like, I cannot stress enough.
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Yeah, no, whenever you're saying that, not even that.
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When you're saying both China and the United States
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have probably also released this at the same time
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to kill people that you wouldn't.
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He's very unspecific about what he's actually suggesting,
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but underneath it is a normalization of the concept
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of using biological agents against civilians.
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That is a point to which the Overton window cannot go.
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Alex's normal, the deep state needs to be rooted out like,
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yeah, right, this is really bad
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for normalizing this kind of conversation,
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but what he's trying to make acceptable
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to talk about now is atrocities.
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Yeah, and not just that, but another thing underlying it
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is that there is no such thing as peacetime
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because everyone is always secretly, already, always.
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We've always, always been, if not openly,
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then secretly at war, so it doesn't matter
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if we declare war or not.
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We have already been at war.
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Yeah, I mean, like the shit he's been doing
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where he's been trying to make infomercials
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out of a public health emergency, that's bad,
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but it's kind of what you expect from the school
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of con man he comes from.
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This is something else altogether.
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Just the other day, he was saying that Trump
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should outlaw the Democratic Party,
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and now he is warming up to the idea
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of using race-specific bioweapons on civilians.
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I really don't know if he knows what he's saying anymore,
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but I also really don't care.
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It doesn't get better from here.
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This is a path downward that we're on
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that I couldn't even predict this kind of thing.
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I, boo, boo, man, I, you know, I was thinking
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the other day, I was literally thinking,
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so many people are like, well, when you hit bottom,
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there's nowhere to go but up, and I was like,
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or there's no bottom, and I was thinking,
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I've been thinking, oh, there's just no bottom.
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It's just always gonna, it's just gonna keep going.
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It's just gonna keep going, and even this, Dan,
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surprised me that you can go this low.
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Right, yeah.
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I've been telling myself there's no bottom.
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I didn't even know this was available on the bottom.
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Yep, it's there.
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Wow.
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Also, that Indian scientist who wrote
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the non-peer-reviewed paper that you retracted
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after getting feedback from fellow scientists
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was not a top scientist.
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Top Indian scientist.
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Alex is just making that up to make
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that retracted paper seem more credible, which it's not.
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No one else except right-wing conspiracy blogs
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are saying the same thing that scientists said.
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I guess Mike Adams is, but his website
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is an extremely right-wing conspiracy blog,
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so he doesn't get to count as other scientists.
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Factcheck.org actually did talk
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to other scientists about that paper.
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Christian Anderson, the director
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of infectious disease genomics
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at the Scripps Research Translational Institute,
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told them that the analyses in the paper
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were, quote, completely wrong.
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Anderson said there was a, quote,
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misunderstanding of how to perform these type of analyses,
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and said that they were just cherry-picking data.
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Timothy Sheehan, the virologist
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at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,
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told them that if you look at the genome,
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there are zero signs of human tampering.
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He said that because, despite what Alex
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keeps saying on his show, it's not like
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no one has the genome of it, they did send it out.
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Yeah, but you can't trust him.
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He's only 250th ranked scientist in North Carolina.
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That doesn't even get you in the ATP tour, Dan.
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Another person who studied the virus,
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Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist
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at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle,
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actually recreated what the retracted study
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was attempting to analyze.
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He found that the things that they were claiming
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to be inserts in the RNA are actually
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just mistakes in interpretation
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made by the Indian researchers.
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What was claimed to be things added into the RNA
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were clearly segments of material
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that are present in closely related SARS-like viruses.
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He tweeted out all of his materials, too,
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so if Alex is so desperate to get his hands on it,
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it's been there on Twitter for at least a week.
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Alex probably didn't see that, though,
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because he's been kicked off Twitter.
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Yeah, well, you know, he's not really walking around
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in infospheres that include information.
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Yeah, so Alex is dumb, all this is bullshit,
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but he's saying that we're in a secret war with China,
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and here's where he fleshes that out a little bit.
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I'm not going to give the US government a pass
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and say for sure that somebody in the deep state
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on the American team isn't pissed
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at enough fentanyl being shipped in every couple months
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to kill the entire world population.
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You're like, that's what shipped into the US?
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Yes, enough to kill the whole world.
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That means a lot of it's not even getting delivered
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to the drug addicts.
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There's just so much of it that one shipment
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they caught coming in from Mexico
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would kill 10.6 million people.
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That was our estimate.
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Other newspapers said 11 billion.
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That's what broke that.
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It was made of mosquitoes.
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That was one shipment that would kill 11 million people
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if they all took an overdose dose.
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That's why you see homeless everywhere laying out asleep
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during the day, asleep at night.
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They're not asleep, they're passed out on fentanyl.
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So is this how the United States says,
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we told you to stop that.
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Here, here's a race specific weapon
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that kills military age men.
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You want to kill teenagers, boys, girls, white people,
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black people, Hispanics, Asians, old, young,
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we'll just hit you with a race specific bio weapon
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that I've told you that's the wars of the future.
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I don't think Trump would do that.
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Woo, what a relief.
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He doesn't think Trump would do that.
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Well, fucking now I do.
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I think Alex would do it.
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Yeah, I don't caught into this.
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I don't appreciate that.
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Man, that's such a terrifying thing to hear.
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That Alex thinks that fentanyl coming into the country,
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a fitting response might be to release
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a race specific bio weapon on civilians.
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Yes, that is a scary thing to hear.
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So it's an important question to ask
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in the midst of this horrific shit that Alex is spewing.
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This important question is,
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are race specific bio weapons real?
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No.
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The answer is no.
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And it doesn't seem likely that they will be
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even in the near future.
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The basic reason this is the case
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is that the alleles and genes
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that contribute to what we call race,
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it's not just one gene.
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There are a fuck ton of genes and sequences
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that make up each person's individual genome
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and there's a whole lot of overlap between different groups.
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There isn't just a one to one relationship
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between genes and race.
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So the view I've seen thrown around
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is that you could probably make some kind of an agent
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that slightly affects a certain group more than another,
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but it wouldn't be a pronounced difference.
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It would be in the measure of a couple percentage points.
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And it wouldn't be effective.
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Another reason why most evil villains
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probably would never decide to deploy
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these hypothetical race specific bio weapons
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is that a common feature of viruses
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is that once they begin to be passed around
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at human hosts, they mutate.
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There wouldn't be an effective way to predict
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if a race specificness of a weapon you create
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would even last one transmission cycle
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in the wider population.
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It's just not a good plan,
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even from an evil logistics standpoint.
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No, okay.
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So if there's one thing I know every biologist says,
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it's that as long as you have a sample of say,
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one or 2,000 people,
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you can correctly assume what biological circumstances
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will arise from 7 billion people experiencing something.
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That's just true that humans are so similar
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that you never see wild and massive variations occur
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for no reason.
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It's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Alex has zero evidence
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that race specific bio weapons even exist.
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When he's pressed to the wall
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and has to cite proof of their existence,
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the two things he brings up
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are the project for a new American century document
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and that 1997 speech
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that secretary of defense William Cohen gave.
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In both of these instances,
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Alex's primary sources are people trying to justify
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greater defense spending from the US government
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and race specific bio weapons are a hypothetical threat
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that they bring up to illustrate the kinds of dangers
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we may be protecting ourselves from one day.
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Neither of these sources prove the existence
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of these sorts of weapon,
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nor does anything else Alex can point to.
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They are examples of people trying to get more money
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into the defense budget.
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If it weren't a British show,
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I would say he watched Utopia,
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which is basically,
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it's a TV show about a race specific bio weapon
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being released.
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Maybe he did, I don't know.
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And it's like these people find a graphic novel
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that reveals a massive conspiracy
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to release a race specific bio weapon
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to depopulate the earth.
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Maybe his wife likes BBC.
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It could be.
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So I don't think Alex is good on sources here.
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Doubtful.
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There's a lot of bad bullshit going around,
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but it turns out there was one source I didn't consider.
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The KKK?
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Seven years old, they visited us on Christmas.
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And I remember my grandfather going,
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they want us to have a nuclear war.
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The Chinese dictator, whoever it was after Mao died,
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says he wants us to nuke them
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because they want to get rid of their populations.
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It's the only group in the world
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that wants to get rid of them.
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That's why they fed into this world government scheme
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to reduce the population.
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And I'm telling you, they'll release a race specific weapon
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and blame it on us.
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That's the plan.
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And I've told these stories before on air years ago.
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But you talk about a visionary, man.
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My mom's dad was smart.
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I'd like to apologize.
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I didn't know that Alex's grandpa yelled at him
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when he was seven.
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I didn't know that he had that kind of high level source.
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I mean, when an old man screams at you
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about how the government is desiring of a nuclear war
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and that eventually they will release
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a race-based bioweapon, you know it's true, Dan.
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I didn't realize.
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I do all this like looking into Alex's sources.
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I didn't realize an old man yelled at him
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when he was seven.
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Did you not?
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Did you not email his grandfather for comment?
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That is basic journalistic ethics, Dan.
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His grandpa could be old man house phone.
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You don't know that.
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That'd be fun.
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That would be a fun twist for our,
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the end of our series is just revealing that.
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In a good bit here, you know, like a relief.
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I mean, Alex is already insinuated.
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He doesn't think Trump would do
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the race-specific bioweapon release.
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But it is on the table.
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Thankfully, he doubles down on that.
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Doesn't think that the US is behind this.
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Good.
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But I mean, this is just ridiculous.
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That looks like something the US would launch
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if you're gonna be military
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and you're being hit with fentanyl
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and millions have died here and China won't stop it.
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Well, you hit military-aged men
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and it messes up their economy.
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But we're not gonna operate like that.
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Trump can't even make a phone call
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to the Ukraine saying, yeah, or get a phone call,
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great, fight corruption, which is US law.
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If we give them money, they've got to agree to that.
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Trump is completely paralyzed other than promoting America
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and being able to get some good policies in.
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He can't do covert operations.
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Like what?
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And Trump would never sit there.
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Fucking name one.
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Much less have them have that over his head.
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No way.
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Did some rogue agency do it?
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I don't believe so.
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Do we have stuff on the shelf like this?
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You better damn well believe it.
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That's why the Chicom stole it out of that Canadian lamp.
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They didn't.
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I do not like that Alex's defense seems to be
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that Trump wouldn't do this
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because he can't get away with it.
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He would love to do it in a heartbeat,
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but there's so many people watching him, Dan.
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He can't even make this call to Ukraine.
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And he's gonna have to stay up until like 4 a.m.
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to get people to do his bidding without interference.
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Seems to be more of a logistics issue
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than a, that would be a gigantic war crime issue.
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Maybe this is why Alex was thrilled with the idea
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of his guest being Slobodan Milosevic's lawyer.
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Dan, everybody knows that God hates cowards.
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That's the rule.
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It's in the Genesis 101.
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Genesis 101.
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So, I mean, look, this is sensational.
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This is insane.
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The level of hysteria and panic he's trying to build up
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surrounding this virus.
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Adding these new layers of it's a race-specific bioweapon,
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maybe a false flag, China's pulling on itself.
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And, you know, of course he does a lot of sales
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for his products, and we get an update
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on something that is what I would describe
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as the opposite of a shock.
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We're gonna break.
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I'm gonna tell you what I'm personally doing
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to fortify my immune system, and it's right here.
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It's called immune gargle.
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15 parts per million silver, but it's not regular silver.
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They can make it a lot higher,
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parts per million for the same price.
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This is what's judged as the best and the safest.
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It's immune gargle.
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This is what the Pentagon, as we showed you
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in the documents, had secretly found in their test,
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Texas A&M, that this is able to knock out the SARS family.
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I'm not even saying it's gonna do that.
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I'm just saying it's nano silver, it's high quality,
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and it's ingestible, not just you can gargle it
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and spit it out, swallow some of it.
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It's what I do, and I love it.
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It sold out.
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I told you yesterday it was gonna sell out.
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Before the show ended, it was sold out.
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Oh, I wonder why.
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I wonder why it sold out.
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Because you're lying about the product.
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He's taking these things that are possibly true
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about the wound gel, the silver wound gel,
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and he's directly applying those claims
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to the immune gargle in that clip.
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That is way beyond the realm of acceptable.
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And of course, your products are selling out.
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You're embarrassing yourself with this
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hysteric panic you're engaging in.
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He really does make more sense.
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He is an apocalyptic preacher
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holding, wearing one of those box signs on the corner,
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screaming about how everybody's gonna die in hell,
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mixed with the fucking ShamWow guy.
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Vince, I think was his name.
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Yeah, it's horrific.
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Billy.
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No, he was the OxiClean guy.
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Right, right, I know.
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They both yelled a lot.
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They did.
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So Alex goes to break and he comes back
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and he takes some calls.
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And by this point, he's kinda landed on the idea
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that it's a race-specific bioweapon
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and China released it on themselves as a false flag.
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And the United States probably could have done it
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if they wanted to.
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Well, if they wanted to, it would have been totally cool.
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Absolutely.
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So he takes calls and his first caller that he gets
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is a guy who believes that the US did it
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and he doesn't like Alex's theory much.
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Okay, we got a lot of phone lines here.
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I'm gonna go to Victor in Europe first.
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He says the US released a bioweapon on China.
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And let's be clear, this is a bioweapon.
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It is man-made, that's confirmed.
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It is race-specific.
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That is not confirmed.
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Why is there such a crazy response?
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Who would want this to happen?
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Who would be behind it?
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What do you think, Victor?
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So you see the way he's framing the parameters
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of what's up for discussion.
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It's not up for discussion that this is a man-made
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race-specific bioweapon.
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Confirmed.
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Now, did the US do it?
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That's a good question.
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We're gonna open up the phone lines.
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Alex thinks it's a false flag
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and this caller does not agree.
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Do you understand that they can inflict the wound
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on themselves to then get out of the fact
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they're losing the trade war and get out of the fact
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that Xi Jinping is so embarrassed
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and use that as a way to crack down
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as a police state measure?
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Does that make sense to you?
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It's not the most likely scenario.
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No, my hypothesis in Endgame, 13 years old,
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is that China and other globalists
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would launch bio attacks on themselves
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as a way to set the precedent for political
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and social and medical crackdown.
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It's not like I'm just saying this today.
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Why are you saying it's the less possible scenario?
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See, Alex is defensive about this guy pushing back
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on his idea that China false flagged themselves
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with this virus.
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That indicates to me that he's not so much
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exploring all the angles as he is,
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this is the position I'm going to put forth
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and anybody pushing back on it,
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I'm gonna get kind of petty and meh.
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Sir, I don't like the way you said that my idea
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that I came up with literally 10 minutes ago
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is not the most likely scenario.
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I thought of it 10 minutes ago.
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That means it's confirmed.
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Right.
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So he gets another caller who thinks
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that this is a Chinese government psyop of some sort
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and maybe it's not even actually happening.
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It's not even happening?
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There we go.
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It's actors.
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That's a bingo.
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I got a bingo, Dan.
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This could be a Chinese communist test for social control
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and they've got people out scripting it.
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You're absolutely right.
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We have seen the left hire AstroTurf,
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actual firms that are online that hire thousands
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for events like Charlottesville.
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We pointed out and they sue us for saying it
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when they advertise and hired,
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not people to get the woman killed,
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that part wasn't staged, but they have the clash.
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Most of the white supremacists were hired to play the part.
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And again, nothing against gay people,
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but you know, 35, never got an acting job.
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There's a bunch of little pot-bellied gay dudes
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in Nazi outfits, you know, out there for the kids.
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You know, a real Nazi showed up
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and I hear what you're saying.
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God bless you, Maria.
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All right, when I come back,
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I'm taking five calls in the next segment.
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It's gonna happen.
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It doesn't.
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Weird that he didn't bring that theory up,
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which he seems to consistently believe
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whenever he's just rambling.
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When he had Richard Spencer on the show,
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he certainly didn't bring up how he believes
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that everyone was just a bunch of gay actors that got hired.
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He did not say to Richard Spencer's face
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that Richard Spencer, you are a fucking liar
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and all you did was hire a bunch of pot-bellied quote gays.
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Right.
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Great.
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Yeah, this is dumb.
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This isn't just offensive.
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This is like, get him out of here.
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Get him the fuck out.
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So Alex, he doesn't take five calls when he comes back.
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No.
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He is not good at taking calls at all, ever.
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That's not just today, ever.
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He gets ready because he's got Francis Boyle coming up.
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Yeah, this guy who drafted this bioweapon legislation
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back in the late 80s and now is here,
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comes on Alex's show all the time.
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Every time there's a public health issue
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to say that it's a bioweapon.
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It's a bioweapon?
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And Alex says something really stupid.
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You trust people that have been around a long time
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that are there on record with integrity
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trying to figure the truth out.
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It doesn't mean they're perfect.
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It doesn't mean I'm right all the time,
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but we're right 97%, 98% of the time.
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Somebody else who's been right a lot
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is Dr. Francis Boyle, creator of the U.S. Bioweapons Act.
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He joins us coming up.
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He's been right all the time.
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All these-
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There's been a lot of bioweapons.
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Zika, Ebola, all of them bioweapons releases.
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He's right all the time.
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It almost makes you think
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we don't even have actual diseases.
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We just have bioweapons created by people.
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It's true.
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That really is kind of what they think.
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The other day I stubbed my toe.
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Oh shit.
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That's a bioweapon.
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China?
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Yep.
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Oh no, that one was actually Stephen Miller.
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He hates you.
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Yeah, that could have been.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex gets into reading some,
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like giving a pump up for Francis Boyle.
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And I think he gets a little out of line with his bio.
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And this is one of the leading experts in the world,
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not just on the medical side, the genome,
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and then the RNA side,
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but also on the geopolitical and the UN sources.
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And he said, look, the UN knows
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this is a bioweapon.
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The way Alex is presenting this interview
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is explicitly dishonest.
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There's literally no excuse for him
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to present Francis Boyle as a leading expert
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on the medical side of things
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because he has zero background in science.
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This is one of the many, many instances
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of Alex being unable to stop himself
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from embellishing things
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to make his narratives less questionable
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to impressionable listeners.
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It's not enough for him to present his guest
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as the guy who was involved in drafting
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that US statute on bioweapons back in the late eighties.
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And here's why.
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The claims that Alex is having Boyle on to make
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are not at all relevant to that.
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He is coming on to discuss
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how the coronavirus is a bioweapon,
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which has nothing to do
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with his actual field of expertise, namely law.
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The content of their conversation won't really be in line
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with what Boyle has credentials to discuss.
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So it's pretty important to make up things
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to add to his resume,
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like he's a leading expert
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on the medical side of bioweapons when he's not at all.
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In the world of gambling, this is called a tell.
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The fact that Alex is creating this fictitious aspect
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of Boyle's knowledge base gives him credibility
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in a field that he has no involvement in.
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And that tells you that Alex is creating an illusion
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as opposed to reporting or doing a sincere interview.
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No journalist operating in good faith
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and according to ethical standards would ever do this
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because it sets up the interview that's coming up on a lie,
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which calls into question
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literally everything that's said in that interview.
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You would think.
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Yeah, and it tarnishes Francis Boyle from the jump
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because he doesn't correct Alex.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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Anyway.
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I'm waiting for Alex to be like the, you know,
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the four amino acids, adenine, guanine, thiamine and China.
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I think it's China.
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Yeah.
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That's the fourth.
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Amino acids is China.
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Probably.
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So in this next clip,
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we get a really interesting glimpse
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into the fact that Alex recognizes
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and probably has pretty much all along
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that Trump is evil, kind of authoritarian.
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Trump does have an authoritarian stripe.
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And that's bad.
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I like an American that takes the country back
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from globalist, but that's not authoritarian.
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I like a strong person in the constitution,
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not a strong man.
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Nothing you say means anything.
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That is a nonsense.
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Just that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that.
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So he comes back for break
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and gets down to business with Francis Boyle.
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And I'm here to tell you this Francis Boyle interview
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is trash.
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Go home.
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I was going, I was hoping for gold,
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but apparently it's not.
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Yeah, I thought you said golem.
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No.
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He's a, he's not good.
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There's no information that really comes out of this.
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There is nothing that Francis Boyle has to say
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that is groundbreaking.
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There is nothing that he knows.
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And he just seems like a guy who likes info wars.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Cool.
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So here's his main point.
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I think that is outside of the stuff
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that Alex has talked about and it's troubling.
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These BSL-4 facilities have,
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I have no legitimate scientific or medical purpose at all.
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They have one purpose and that is to research, develop,
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test, use, stockpile offensive biological weapons.
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Purely offensive.
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Purely offensive, although they try to justify it by saying,
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oh, we're developing vaccines.
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Well, that might be true, Alex.
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Oh, so BSL-4 is biosecurity level four.
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And his main argument here seems to be set up like this.
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He believes that the coronavirus is a bioweapon
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that was released from the Wuhan bio lab
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because he believes that all biosecurity level four labs
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exist to do is create offensive bioweapons.
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Although he admits in that very clip
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that they also do research for vaccines.
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They claim that's why.
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And that very well may be true.
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Oh, wow.
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That's legitimately stupid shit.
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The levels of biosecurity a lab is subject to
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is related to the relative danger
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of the things that are studied there.
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Level one is for things that generally don't hurt people
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who are in good health.
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Level two is for agents
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that have a little more dangerous side to them
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and they require slightly heightened precautions
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like hepatitis or HIV.
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Level three is for things that could be contracted
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much easier and can often be transmitted in the air
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like SARS or yellow fever.
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Level four is the highest level
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because the things that would be worked with there
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are specifically things that can transmit
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as easily as level three agents,
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but are also potentially deadly
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and are things for which we have no known treatments
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or vaccines.
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So in the past, this would have included things
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like smallpox and Ebola.
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Level four labs are the level that they are
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because of the security protocols
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that are required to work with those agents.
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It has to do with like the air flow in the lab
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and how that's controlled, how waste is handled,
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what sorts of protective clothing and gear
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are required by the researchers.
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That's what this designation means.
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These things are-
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That's not like a ranking of labs.
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Like people who work at BSL-4s aren't like,
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ah, look at those BSL-1s over there, a bunch of douchebags.
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Go get a real job, dude.
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They might have some sort of a, you know,
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jocular relationship, I don't know.
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A bunch of frat boy scientists studying smallpox.
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So these things that they're studying
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and working with in level four labs,
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whether you like it or not, Francis,
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are things that could be a gigantic threat to people.
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In the 20th century,
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over 300 million people died from smallpox.
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And if it weren't for people doing the work
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that is done in the conditions of level four
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biosecurity labs,
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it's unlikely that it would now be eradicated.
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Francis Boyle can suggest all he want
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without proof that these bio labs exist
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only to create offensive biological weapons,
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but it doesn't mean anything.
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They clearly serve an important function.
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And without them, it would basically be impossible
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to do the sort of work that's required
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to come up with treatments and preventions
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for diseases that could be the next plague.
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Like it's, I just, what are you saying doesn't make sense.
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It is, it's like we don't have any ability
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to transfer certain fears generationally.
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You know, like that.
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There's a generation who was so ravaged by smallpox,
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they would do anything and everything
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to help get rid of that disease.
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And then once the disease is successfully,
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at the very least, mitigated,
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the next generation is like,
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you know, smallpox isn't a big deal.
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It's all bullshit that they're throwing at us.
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We don't need to worry about this stuff.
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And everything they tell you about now,
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it's vaccines that are doing it and all that.
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It's like, one generation was all it took
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to rid the entire world of the fear,
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or of a reasonable fear.
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It's unfortunate.
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It's fucked up.
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Also, fun fact, any samples that come back to Earth
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from space from places that are thought
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to have ever possibly had habitable environments,
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they have to be handled at biosecurity level four labs.
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But I guess that's probably just because
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they're trying to make a space bioweapon,
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not because the labs are perfectly designed
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to limit any possible interaction of the Earth's atmosphere
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with completely foreign things that could be dangerous.
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So anyway, they serve a number of purposes.
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This is just bullshit.
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Being spouted by a guy who has no real standing.
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He doesn't really have any reason,
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but he might not have any reason to know anything,
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and it's very unlikely that he has inside information
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based on him, in the past, saying,
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I have no inside information.
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But Alex has a source.
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He is a source that seems contradictory
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to all the things Alex has been saying already,
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which is weird.
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Good.
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That's what my Pentagon sources told me
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a week and a half ago.
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They believe it's a leak weapon.
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They were planning for us or others
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developing a vaccine for themselves,
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but somehow they thought it was edited
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so it would be continuated or however it works,
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and then it somehow mutated or it didn't work.
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The live vaccine failed.
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They don't know.
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They just believe it was an offensive weapon.
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They were developing a vaccine for that somehow got out.
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Does that sound accurate?
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That's correct.
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So for this entire show,
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Alex has been saying that he believes
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that this was a false flag, race-specific bioweapon,
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the attack that the Chinese government
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pulled on themselves to save face
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because Trump is so great
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that they're being humiliated in a trade war,
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and so they could depopulate the country,
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all these various thoughts.
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Now, Alex is saying that his fake Pentagon sources
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told him that this was a bioweapon
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that was being developed to be used against us,
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that the Chinese lab was creating a vaccine for
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that accidentally got out.
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This is a direct contradiction
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of literally everything else he has said on this episode.
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If the Chinese are making this bioweapon to use against us,
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that kind of contradicts the race-specific bioweapon stuff.
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If they're creating a vaccine,
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that kind of contradicts the goal of depopulating China.
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If it accidentally got out of the lab,
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that contradicts the stuff about it
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being an intentional release by the Chinese government.
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This isn't a situation where Alex
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is considering multiple possibilities.
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This is him within the span of a few hours
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pretending to credibly report
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two entirely incompatible narratives.
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These two things cannot both be true.
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Yet one of them he's pitched based on hard science,
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quote, unquote, and the other is not a theory.
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It's what his totally real Pentagon sources told him.
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I have a very strong feeling that Alex is having a field day
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selling shit off of the virus panic that he's creating.
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And because of that, he doesn't really give a shit
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if the things he's saying about the outbreak
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are internally self-contradictory.
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It doesn't matter because his audience is very dumb
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and they won't notice super glaring problems
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with his narratives like this.
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It's all just building fear
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and he's willing to do it however he can
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because fear translates directly into money.
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I will say that you do not need to give me
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any information on Boyle's background
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if all you did was play me a clip
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where Alex said that string of nonsense
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and then he said, that's correct, Alex.
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Then I'm like, oh, okay, clearly everything is bullshit.
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If you just say that's correct to Alex Jones,
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regardless of, if he's just like-
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It's dicey, it's a dicey move.
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Is this the movie where Will Smith is in it?
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I'm not gonna say that's correct.
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I'm gonna be like, what movie are you fucking talking about?
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You give me all the information first.
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You might be being led down a path.
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Exactly.
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So Alex, he's talking to Boyle
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and one of the things I noticed pretty clearly
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was that all he really has to go on
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is that Indian paper that got retracted.
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I think that's pretty clear here.
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Just remember, major Indian lab comes out,
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says it's had the HIV delivery system welded onto it.
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They don't do that, they just remove it under pressure
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and now the US government and others won't send out
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the RNA sequencing of this so people can tell how to test it
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because when they get that, they look at it
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and even low-level labs can go, oh my God,
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this is funny, the $3 bill will get Dr. Boyle's take on that
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and that's accurate, that's what others are saying.
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Straight ahead, stay with us.
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That's not accurate and all of it's nonsense.
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So he does believe that the BSL one through one, two, three,
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four are like, even BSL twos can see that this is bullshit.
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No, no, no, lower-level labs
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meaning like smaller universities or something.
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Ah, okay.
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But so Alex wants to,
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like he's just operating off this protracted Indian paper
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that's been roundly criticized by other scientists
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and he wants to know what Boyle thinks of it
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and here's what Boyle thinks of it.
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I read that study when it came out.
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It was convincing to me, including the pictures.
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Obviously, I believe the Chinese government put pressure
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on the Indian government to take it down
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so it was taken down.
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That's based on his thoughts.
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So you asked me last time Boyle came up
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if he was an active teacher and it appears that he is
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and so I wanted to get a sense
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of what kind of a teacher he was
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so I consulted the website Rate My Professors
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where Boyle has received 18 ratings
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with an average of 2.7 out of five.
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Too high.
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One review says, quote, more of a conspiracy theorist
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but still a fun, interesting lecture every time.
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Another says, quote, this is a great class.
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If you want to get some credit and not have to go to class
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but the class itself doesn't have a lot of substance.
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Fair.
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Another reviewer says, quote,
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this course teaches you nothing.
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I want to take this course.
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This next one sounds just about right.
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Quote, I learned nothing in a semester of jurisprudence
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except a lot of tinfoil hat ranting
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about the Pope and Newt Gingrich.
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He will use a mic in a small lecture hall
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then scream into it the entire class.
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Expect migraines and worse than 1L belittling
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over questions with no answers.
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Don't expect actual legal philosophy or history.
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It is really tough to get rid of a tenured professor,
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isn't it?
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Yep.
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That is the basic thing here.
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Also, they're doing a video Skype interview,
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Alex and Francis, and his office looks like a tornado
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just passed through it.
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Far be it from me to judge,
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I don't keep a tidy house very well,
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but his office is another level.
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It looks like an episode of Hoarders.
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Okay.
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It's a red flag.
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Alex should go to audio.
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There's only one question I want to know the answer to.
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What's that?
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Is there an unhung picture?
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Probably.
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Oh.
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So they get to talking about the idea
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of race-specific bioweapons,
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and Francis Boyle believes they are real,
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and what do you know?
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He's got the same source that Alex does.
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As to your point on ethnic-specific biological weapons,
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yes, we've tried to develop them here in the United States
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under the influence of the neo-cons
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who believe in these things.
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That's in the PNAC report.
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This is just based on the project
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for a new American century document,
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Rebuilding America's Defenses,
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which does not prove that these things are real.
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And again, it was a justification
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to increase the defense spending budget
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of the United States is an example of a hypothetical threat.
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It was evil in its own way,
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not in the way they're portraying it.
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So it's interesting to me in this sense
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that Francis Boyle does believe,
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using the same sources that Alex uses,
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that these race- or ethnic-specific bioweapons do exist.
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However, he does not believe that that is true in this case.
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At this point, I was considering race-specific,
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and with this first point-
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But if Chinese and then blacks are so different,
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then that would kind of preclude that.
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I think that is my conclusion, Alex.
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That's correct.
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So I don't think this is that.
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So a black person caught it,
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so now it's not a race-specific-
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Oh, I just don't know how to handle people this dumb,
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because this is a combination-
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It's tough.
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This is one of those times
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where you see Alex being unequivocally stupid and evil.
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He is, this is the dumbest possible shit
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that he is also using to sell in an evil way
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and be a fucking bigoted nightmare.
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I mean, you should know that he feels a little bit bad
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about selling stuff, I mean-
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I don't want to care.
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I almost feel opportunistic-
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Oh.
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When I'm positioned- Almost?
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With the very nano silver that the Pentagon
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and Homeland Security has said
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has been proven to take out SARS.
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Nope.
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But you know what?
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I've been selling it for years,
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because I go out and find out whatever the best product is.
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Show people the shot, please.
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Oh, do you feel opportunistic, Alex?
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Is he going to show us like the date
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that he started selling it?
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No, he just flashes up the same information
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about the silver wound job. God damn it.
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You are opportunistic.
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This is 100% opportunistic.
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This is a disgrace.
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And you're doing it with the food too.
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I had talks two weeks ago with the owner and the founder
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and the CEO and all that.
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And they're just like,
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do you think we should keep buying more food
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or should we just sell out?
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What do you think we should do?
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Because it's hard to buy food when it goes up in price.
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And I said, I believe you should put everything
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you have into buying more food.
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I believe this is probably real.
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I don't want to tell my audience that,
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let's wait and see, but they'll have food they eat anyways.
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And sure enough, unfortunately you see, this is a serious,
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so it's good to be prepared.
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InfoWarswore.com.
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It funds our independent Maverick operation.
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Oh, wow. Magically, magically sales are through the roof
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for my Patriots supply and hey, you know,
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my narratives are getting way worse.
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I don't want to feel opportunistic.
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And hey, what do you know?
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We find out this is real.
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Oh my God.
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It's so, it's so terrible.
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What a great coincidence for me at a time
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when I really needed it.
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Yeah.
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It just works out.
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Oh, like clockwork.
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So Alex is talking to Francis Boyle
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and he still was on hold while Alex was selling his shit,
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which is disgraceful.
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That is rough.
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You can't feel great about that.
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No.
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And so he goes back to Boyle and he wants to ask like,
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how bad is this going to get?
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From your sources at the UN, from your own research,
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how bad is this?
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Well, Alex, you had this so-called tabletop computer game
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at Johns Hopkins.
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Bill Gates again, 65 million dead.
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That's correct.
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Oh my God.
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And Johns Hopkins is a well-known center
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for the neo-cons who fully support biological weapons
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and even ethnic specific biological weapons.
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You can read that in their PNAC report.
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That tabletop exercise, which is really a war game,
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resulted in 65 million deaths.
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That's the only figure I have seen that seems to be credible
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as to where this could lead.
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I mean, we could be dealing something here
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as bad as the Spanish flu virus.
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I lost a grandmother a century ago
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to the Spanish flu virus.
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So that, Alex, I guess is a worst case scenario.
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I'm not here to scare anyone or get anyone to panic.
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65 million dead.
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The best analysis I can.
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Look, the problem is I don't care what your motives are
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and you, Francis Boyle,
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specifically now wanting to scare people.
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You are a guest espousing things on a program
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where the guy is trying to scare people.
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So you are being used as a tool to scare people
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whether you like it or not.
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It's interesting because for the most part,
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Boyle is accused of being more left
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in his conspiracy theories.
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More on the left side of things.
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And it makes you realize that maybe a lot of people
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have very similar information that comes to them
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whether it be from a left perspective or a right perspective
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in terms of conspiracy theory communities.
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Because he's using all of the same talking points as Alex.
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This Johns Hopkins tabletop exercise that we talked about
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that has not real applicability to the actual outbreak
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that ended up happening after it.
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He's using these same touchstones.
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The PENAC document, all of it is the same.
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He has the same interpretation of the Indian study
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that was retracted.
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He's using this Bill Gates, Johns Hopkins tabletop exercise,
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blah, blah, blah.
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It's really weird to me because,
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I mean, he watched Trump impeached.
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He has very different politics, it seems, than Alex.
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They come together on the conspiracies
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about a new world order or something.
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A bad foundation doesn't really matter
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what kind of, I guess, point of view you have after that.
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I guess not.
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A bad foundation is still gonna crumble.
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Yep.
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So it's suspicious that Trump isn't doing anything
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if there's a bioweapon afoot or something.
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He must be in on it.
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I assume that's their angle, right?
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If Trump's not doing anything.
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I don't know.
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This is dumb.
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Then how is Trump wrong?
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Give us the nuance in praising Xi.
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I believe President Trump was misadvised
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that under no circumstances-
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You're saying he's not being advised
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that it's a bioweapon.
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That's your problem.
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That's correct.
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I don't believe he has been advised that it's a bioweapon
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or that this is a turbocharged bioweapon.
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I just don't believe he understands it.
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The scientific advisors he has around him,
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these are institutional-
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Very well said.
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I agree with your statement.
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I thought you had Pentagon sources who were telling,
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how does this track?
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How does this make any sense?
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Alex is pretending he has Pentagon sources
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that are feeding him this information
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about it being a bioweapon and all this shit,
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but somehow Trump's advisors just won't tell him.
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None of this tracks.
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Trump is the smartest, strongest, most powerful,
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most successful president.
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However, it does seem like every time
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he wants to do something that Alex does like,
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he's been foiled by an advisor or two.
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A globalist who's infiltrated.
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He is the best president in history.
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It does seem like every time he wants to do something, though,
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his advisors are giving him bad information.
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Yeah.
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So Boyle's point is get rid of these biosafety level four-
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Got to get rid of them.
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... research centers because-
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They're just attacked.
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They're just violent.
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At that point, I guess, get rid of three, two,
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and then maybe two and then one.
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Get rid of all research.
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I say get rid of tanks as well while we're at it.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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So Alex wraps up the interview, and now he's
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adopted that as his sort of talking point, which is weird.
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This is just insane, and they all do it in the name of safety.
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We all have guns in our houses in the name of safety,
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but if they're not locked upright or somebody bad gets
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them, they can cause a problem, but that's OK.
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Just a few people get killed.
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That's part of being free.
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Bad stuff happens.
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And overall, the good outweighs the bad
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that we're free and empowered, and it's good.
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So this makes no sense.
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The argument Alex is trying to lay out here
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is that the man says they're working
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on vaccines and treatments in these biolabs
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for the sake of public safety, and that's
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why you keep a gun in the house for safety.
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And if guns aren't handled appropriately,
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people end up dying, and that's just the cost of being free,
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but the benefits outweigh the costs.
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How is that not totally analogous to biolabs?
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I don't understand.
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If security protocols aren't followed
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strictly and appropriately, some of this research
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can pose a danger, and in those cases,
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it can result in some deaths.
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It's pretty hard to dispute the fact
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that advancements in vaccine science
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have absolutely outweighed the costs of any of this research,
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and if you don't agree with that,
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I would suggest you look into some of the conditions that
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don't exist anymore that are basically nightmare diseases.
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Alex can't even figure out how to be against this shit
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at this point.
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He wants to say it's a race-specific bioweapon
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that the Chinese false flagged themselves with,
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but then he talks to Boyle, and Boyle's not into that argument.
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Boyle is all about attacking these biolabs.
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So now Alex has to pivot or disagree with Boyle
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and risk destroying the thin veneer of credibility
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he has as an expert.
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If Alex disagrees with Boyle, he's
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no longer useful in any way to validate his narratives
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about how scared people need to be
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and thus why they need to buy his product,
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so that is not an option.
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And thus, Alex has to now be against these biolabs.
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It's just a mess, because Alex doesn't prepare,
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and he has no idea what he's talking about,
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and these aren't topics you can really just wing.
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Yeah, I imagine that if the biolabs made
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a gun that shot viruses, Alex would be in real trouble here.
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He'd be like, oh, I love these guns,
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but I'm against these labs.
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I don't know.
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So now Boyle's gone, and Alex gets
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to do what he really wants to do,
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which is ramble about the Bible.
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There we go.
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It's not fiction written by some Hebrews.
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It's direct divine knowledge, folks.
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No, God would say, no, I'll actually do it.
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I'll come down here.
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I'll show you how it's done.
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I'll walk a mile in your shoes right now.
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You mean to do it?
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I'll do it right now.
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In fact, I won't just physically take the torture and all
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of it.
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I will take all of the sin on, so that I metaphysically then
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can forgive you and take you on, because that's
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how the universe works.
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It's energetic.
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And God's got to be that sacrificial lamb that
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goes between the two, because you can't have new free will
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creatures given that much power who aren't going
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to mess up and do evil stuff.
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But they've just got to make the spiritual decision
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to go with God, and then God will cheat the rest of the way
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to take us over.
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And you know at this level, God's
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going to take folks over that are still turning us God.
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I'm telling you, I don't want to get into stuff,
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but I've seen the next levels.
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And they're indescribable.
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And this isn't just like the simplification people
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hearing all this, but there's a lot
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of rebellion going on against the nature of the universe.
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So this is the guy that anybody who's listening
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wants to take cues on science from.
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I think that's good.
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I think that's wise.
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You shouldn't even take cues on religion from me.
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No.
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This is such the same thing of like,
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I don't think anybody hates the Constitution
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more than Alex Jones.
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Yeah, and I don't think anybody hates the Bible more than
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people who talk about the Bible.
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The Book of Job is like 90%.
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You don't know why I do a goddamn thing,
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so don't ask me.
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That's the whole book.
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I don't know if he's read it.
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So Alex starts talking about Trump saying bullshit
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in that speech, because Alex is still really excited about it.
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Still loving it.
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Still excited about it.
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It's good stuff.
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And he's like, hey, it's great.
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It's great that he said it.
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And you get these highfalutin Southern Baptist Christians,
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and he's like, they're all against swearing.
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I think he says something.
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Bunch of nerds.
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This is nonsensical.
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I've got a lot of family, a lot of great people,
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and I love Southern Baptists.
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But they'll tell you a cuss word is worse than aborting a baby.
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I mean, they won't say that, but they
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get more upset about a cuss word or drinking some wine
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than they will about aborting a baby.
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It's like a lot of family are Southern Baptists.
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And it's a holiness they have about them.
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Talk to your fucking family then.
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I don't know who these Southern Baptists are who are,
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I don't know.
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I don't care.
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He's just complaining about his family.
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Anyway, the bullshit thing becomes
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a little bit of a theme.
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And Alex starts talking about some etymology.
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And I think he might be a little off.
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Is he trying to tell us where the word bullshit comes from?
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And it's pretty great.
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OK, let's hear it.
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The truth is, the Bible doesn't say using Old English
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before the Norman took over almost 1,000 years ago,
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before the Vikings took over England.
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They came in and they banned the entire language of the Saxon.
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But it was only the cuss words that continued on,
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the classic things people would say, like bullshit.
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They found 2,000-year-old plaques
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that say something is BS.
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And the Anglo-Saxon would call something,
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for whatever weird reason they had, BS.
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2,000-year-old Anglo-Saxons, Dan.
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Dan, 2,000-year-old Anglo-Saxons.
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Linguists have traced the origin of the word bullshit to 1915.
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I was going to say, it's like a week ago.
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Its earliest use in print being T.S. Eliot's poem,
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The Triumph of Bullshit.
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This was considerably after the time of Old English
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and the Anglo-Saxons.
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I would say it was even after the time of the Norman
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invasions.
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Totally.
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There are some suggestions that the word bull
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had connotation with the idea of something being nonsense.
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But that's most likely due to the old French word
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for fraud, which is bull.
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I very strongly think that Alex is just making shit up
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to try and make it seem more important
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that Trump said bullshit in a speech,
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because he's really, really hung up on that.
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So Alex is really convinced that it's Old English stuff
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and somehow about free speech issues or something.
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I don't know.
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But he really gets excited about this.
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And he ends up working himself up
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into a frenzy where he swears, and they
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have to cut it out of the brush.
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That's so funny.
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There's a delicious irony.
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Just irony, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, I like all those Anglo-Saxon words.
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Tony Montana likes one.
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It begins with an F. He uses it a lot.
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It sounds good, doesn't it?
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It's a good word.
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Actually describes it, too.
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It's got a lot of different meanings, like you got,
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or I'm gonna, or that was a great.
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I mean, it's got a lot of meanings.
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It's a nice word.
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That was a great.
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Why are we so scared of it?
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Oh, this is a family show, dude.
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We're all good.
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But we didn't do anything about 50 million,
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60 million dead babies.
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We didn't do anything about all this other stuff.
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We just sat around and felt good and went to church,
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because we were so good all day.
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What a little shit.
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What a little shit.
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I like, too, that they mis-edited that.
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They mis-edited it, yes.
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They got rid of the bulb.
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It's like when they used to bleep out the hole in asshole,
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and you're like, what are you idiots doing?
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What's so great about that is that I didn't edit that.
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That's how the show came out.
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And so clearly, they recognized that, like, all right,
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Alex is on a rant about how he's going to use swearing,
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because the president did.
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And we can't do that.
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It's hilarious.
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Man, that's funny.
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That is funny.
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But I can't put it strongly enough
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to capture Alex's feelings.
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He loves the Trump said bullshit.
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The pedophiles taking over is the enemy, not the president
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using old English, 1,000 years old,
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not spoken by any Norman nobility and captured England.
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That is the most Anglo-Saxon.
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We Scottish, but he even gets it more.
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That is the sexiest thing I've seen in a while, politically.
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Politically.
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These people are fucking insane.
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I thought there's no bottom, and somehow this bottom
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is even weirder.
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This is a completely different well of no bottom.
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Trump saying bullshit is the sexiest thing that's
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so Anglo-Saxon.
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Why do we live in 2020?
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I want to live elsewhere.
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I want to live, I don't know, 2,000 years ago
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with my other Anglo-Saxon brothers, Dan.
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So Alex takes a couple of calls, and they're not really notable
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at all.
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But then he's like, I can't get to the rest of these calls.
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And he says something absurd, but I
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think he thinks it's true.
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Kevin and Sarah and Elaine, I respect you.
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I appreciate you.
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I didn't have time to get to you.
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We took like over 30 calls.
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Owen Troyer promises that right when the war room starts
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in three minutes, four minutes, he's
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going to write your calls first.
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He said he took 30 calls.
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He probably took five.
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But I think he thinks he took 30 calls.
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Yeah, of course he does.
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I think he thinks it's like, I knocked it out of the park.
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And I actually didn't even cut a clip of this
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because I just thought, who cares?
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I don't really give a shit.
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But earlier in this show, he said,
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yesterday we took 40 calls.
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He did not on the day before this show take 40 calls.
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I do like that he has this perception
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that he's getting a lot more done than he actually
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is, which may be universal.
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He's not just rewriting world events, but his own events
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as well.
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Yeah, that he's in the middle of.
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Yeah, he lives an entirely fictional life.
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Yeah, definitely.
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That's fascinating.
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And he should be in a home or somewhere to help him.
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This is the last clip from February 7th
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on this Friday show.
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And I think up to this point, we've
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seen like real indications that Alex is irresponsibly
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and possibly against regulations selling his immune gargle.
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And I think that this clip, he's dead to rights.
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He is breaking advertising laws.
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Finding the info or while at the same time preparing yourself
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and your family is a 360 win.
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We have our main 16 ounce super silver with nano silver
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that's been documented by the Pentagon
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to take out the SARS family of viruses,
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which is the same as this one.
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It is sold out.
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We have the one ounce about to sell out,
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the three ounce still available.
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It'll be sold out at current rates about a week and a half.
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This is the most explicit I've seen
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where he's talking about a condition
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and a product, which are the two constituent pieces
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that you need to be making a health claim.
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I from everything I've read up on
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and I understand about how the FDA regulations work,
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this is a breach of or at least he's making a health claim.
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And now he needs to notify the FDA
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and he has 30 days to substantiate that claim.
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So this needs to happen.
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There's this, it's unfathomable to me
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that he would be so wiped out financially
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by his misconduct with Sandy Hook and that situation.
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And then claw his way out of it
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by illegally selling products.
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Well, actually it makes total sense.
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No, it does make sense.
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And that's why it cannot be allowed to happen.
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He needs to be stopped with this.
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This is fucked up.
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I would have just stopped there
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and we'd have an episode about the seventh
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and this sort of development of Alex being like,
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this is a race specific bio weapon
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and the Chinese are asking for it
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cause their genome is all the same.
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Like, whoa, whoa, what the fuck?
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Cause that's a departure.
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And the way he's normalizing the discussion
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of a hypothetical release of biological weapons
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is totally unacceptable.
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But then I saw that he did this emergency broadcast
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on the eighth and this is wild stuff.
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Here's how it starts.
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And my friends, we are here with you on Saturday afternoon
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with an emergency broadcast.
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President Trump announced through his chief science advisor
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who heads up major federal agencies, Anthony S. Fauci,
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that they are investigating the novel coronavirus
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out of China as a manmade biological weapon.
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And they called for other scientific institutes
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and the general scientific community,
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as well as governments and the media to look into that.
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So this is a story that has one source and it's zero hedge,
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which has really been on the leading end of, you know-
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Lying.
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Well, spreading completely false information
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about the coronavirus in the past month.
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Yeah.
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Which has led to them being kicked off Twitter
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after accusing a Chinese scientist
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of creating the virus and doxing them.
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Wonder if they're getting any ad revenue
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from my Patriot supply.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, I'm not even gonna ever listen to Zero Hedge,
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so I checked out their site
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and I wanted to find their source on this story.
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It turns out their source is an ABC News article
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with the headline, quote,
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White House asks scientists
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to investigate origins of coronavirus.
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Important note, this is not breaking news
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that requires an emergency Saturday show for Alex.
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This article was published on February 6th,
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which was Thursday prior to his Friday show.
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He had no idea this even happened
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until one of his interns found the Zero Hedge article.
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Yup.
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Which is just a shitty process for a news outlet.
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The first paragraph of this ABC News story is this, quote,
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The White House on Thursday asked US scientists
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and medical researchers to investigate
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the scientific origins of the novel coronavirus
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as misinformation about the outbreak spreads online.
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Hmm, that doesn't sound like they're coming out
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and saying that this is a bioweapon,
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but I guess that's how Alex wants to frame it.
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It's certainly his right to lie.
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We, that is, that should have been,
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that should have been very obvious
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that the article about how information is being spread,
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disinformation is being spread
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is used, of course, to spread disinformation.
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Naturally. Yeah.
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This article is literally about the director
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of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy,
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Kevin, I'm sorry, Kelvin Drogaimeyer,
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being worried about that retracted Indian paper,
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which quote,
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had shown the urgency for accurate information
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about the genesis of this outbreak.
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This guy was worried about how this paper,
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which was deeply flawed and retracted,
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had resulted in a barrage of misinformation
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and wanted to make sure
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that the National Academy of Sciences
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was able to answer the questions people had,
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which led them to accept this deeply flawed
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and retracted paper as accurate.
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Important to keep in mind
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that paper is one of Alex's only sources
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for the claims that he makes that this is a bioweapon.
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The only thing close to helping Alex's narrative here,
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which is coincidentally the part of that ABC News article
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that Zero Edge quotes, is from Dr. Anthony Fauci,
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the director of the National Institute of Allergy
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and Infectious Diseases.
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He's asked, quote,
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about concerns that stem from misinformation online
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that the novel coronavirus could have been engineered
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or deliberately released.
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His response is, quote,
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there's always that concern
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and one of the things that people are doing right now
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is very carefully looking at sequences
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to see if there's even a possibility,
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much less likelihood, that that's going on.
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And you could ultimately determine that.
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So people are looking at it,
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but right now the focus is on what we're going to do
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about what we have.
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That would be something that scientists would rule out
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and it makes sense that this guy would say that.
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However, there's a big difference between what he's saying
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and Alex's decision that this definitely is a bioweapon,
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which he absolutely has determined.
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Definitively, for sure, it's been proven.
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Check the white papers, it's in the WikiLeaks.
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This article is about a White House official
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calling for a meeting of experts to collaborate,
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largely inspired by the flood of misinformation
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related to the Indian paper
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that is the basis for Alex's reporting.
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In essence, this is about the White House
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wanting to push back on the very thing
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that Alex is engaging in,
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which makes it kind of ironic
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that he read a twisted version of this article in Zero Hedge
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and then decided to do an emergency show on Saturday
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about it to declare a victory.
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Wild.
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I'm telling you, we need to start this media consulting.
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So here's what we're gonna do.
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We've got this consulting firm for just science
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and what'll happen is any time a journalist calls
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looking for a quote, the scientist will then call us
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and they'll say, here's my reasonable response
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to this question and I will say, do not say that.
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Absolutely do not say that.
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That is a very reasonable response.
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I understand it and you understand it,
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but they are going to go nuts with it.
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So let's try this.
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No.
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Right.
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So in that article, there's two things going on.
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The first is the main point of the article
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is about this Kelvin Drogaemeyer,
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who's the head of the Office of Science
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and Technology Policy.
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He's the one who's called for scientists to get together
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and work on this plan.
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Sure.
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Work on information.
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Like an evil globalist.
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Anthony Fauci is unrelated to that.
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He is just another person that ABC News
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consulted for a comment, but he is the person
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who is quoted in the Zero Hedge article
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because he has comments that are closer
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to what the narratives they want to push are.
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So Alex believes that this entire article
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is about Anthony Fauci and he is the one
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who called for the scientists to, this is funny.
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This is actually really funny.
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It's sad, but it's funny.
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And yes, we've got the White House, main spokesperson,
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the main scientist, President Trump didn't appoint him
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like John P. Holdren Obama did, the eugenicist
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who called for population reduction.
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That was John P. Holdren, not Anthony Fauci.
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So Trump didn't appoint an official science czar,
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but Fauci is his chief science advisor.
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So Anthony Fauci is the director
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of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
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His chief science advisor, correct?
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He's just someone who was interviewed
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to provide a little extra to that ABC News article.
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The person in the White House who called
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for the meeting of experts was the head
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of Office of Science and Technology Policy.
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But Alex doesn't know that
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because he read a different article.
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He didn't read the article.
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All he knows was it was in the Zero Hedge article
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and they don't mention that dude.
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They don't mention the Office of Science
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and Technology Policy dude, they only talk about Fauci
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because like I said, he's the one
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who's closest to their narratives.
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Also, Trump didn't appoint Anthony Fauci
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to any position at all.
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He's been in the National Institutes of Health since 1968
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and he's been the head of the National Institute
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of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984,
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as long as I've been alive.
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Wow. Yeah.
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He was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom
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in 2008 for fuck's sake.
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Oh man, look, I'm sure this dude's doing a great job.
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Sure. Too old.
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Get him out of there.
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Get him out of there.
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I saw some pictures of him, he looks fine.
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I'm sure he is.
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Trump did appoint the guy who's the head
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of the Office of Science and Technology Policy
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and that guy, Kelvin Drogaimeyer is his main science advisor
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but he is not Anthony Fauci.
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Alex has no idea what he's talking about
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because he doesn't prepare and he just does bad work.
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Also, John P. Holdren might have been called a science czar
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but his official title was, you guessed it,
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Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy,
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exactly the same as his other dude.
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Yeah.
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Nothing Alex says means anything.
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Nope.
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But it's really fun.
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It's really fun when you realize Alex doesn't know shit.
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It's so glaring.
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It's such a real bummer, the whole,
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like when czars became a thing during Bush's second term
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when everybody's doing czars.
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Now I got to hear about czars all the time.
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It was-
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Get a real job, God dammit.
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It was a mistake.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Alex editorializes a little bit
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about Anthony Fauci here.
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It's just so funny.
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It's so funny.
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That's-
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You think, oh God, it's great.
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And Fauci just asked at a press conference,
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there's people saying, this is manmade.
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You want to shut that down?
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He goes, no, that's always the big concern
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and we're looking for people to investigate that
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and where it came from because it's very unusual.
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I read you all the comment from the ABC news article.
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That is a grave mischaracterization of his comments.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know if it was,
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I don't even know if he was at a press conference
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because as it reads in the article,
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it just seems like a correspondent from ABC news
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asked him this.
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It's not specified it's in a press conference.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if that's true.
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I think Alex is just making this shit up,
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which makes it funny.
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And he says things like this.
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And I just got to point out what we've reported,
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what our guests have reported has turned out
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to be deadly accurate.
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And I mean, basically to the numbers,
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because we don't make stuff up.
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We really work around the clock
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to try to bring you the best info.
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That ABC news article would have taken you three minutes
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to read and you didn't do that.
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You didn't do that.
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You just read something on zero hedges like, okay, fine.
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I don't have to find out where this came from.
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Dumb ass.
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I don't think I've ever seen a terminal case
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of Dunning-Kruger,
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but I think this is going to get him killed.
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So this is really funny man, because, okay.
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So he's building this up that he thinks that Anthony Fauci
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is the main science advisor, the Trump of that.
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And he's calling, he's blowing the whistle.
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He's saying this is man made.
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Yeah, it's not him.
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No, no, but so this is not a name
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that has ever come up on the show before.
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This is not somebody that Alex has ever cared about,
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but it turns out Alex has been aware of him
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for a long time.
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Yes.
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Now let's look at the facts.
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The president through his medical spokesperson,
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who's very respected,
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made a lot of calls about Fauci in the last few months
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or knew who he was.
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And I say, he's very respected, a quote legend.
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Yeah, he is.
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A quote.
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He is very respected.
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He's very respected.
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Alex has made calls about him in the past few months.
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This is ridiculous.
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I just-
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This is so sad.
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Like this is, you see this and you see like a teenager
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bluffing a book report.
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Totally.
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This is like-
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Totally a teenager-
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But he's a 45 year old man
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lying about a public health crisis.
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Absolutely.
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Jesus Christ.
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The exact same like sort of dodging,
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having to do work behaviors are being manifested here,
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but the stakes are very high.
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He has a ton of listeners that he's misleading
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about his products in order to sell silver and food buckets.
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But it's still really funny the way he's acting.
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Oh man.
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The way he's acting is funny.
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The consequences, not so much.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a, but it's like, he's so fucking confident.
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Yeah.
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He's so goddamn confident in something
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that is just entirely fictional.
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It's so easy to see through
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if you just like take the second step.
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Just read one, just read the ABC thing.
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Yeah, it's very funny.
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Unreal.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, I want to play this clip
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because I think this is a really perfect demonstration
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of the shitty game Alex plays with headlines.
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So here's the headlines.
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Infowars.com, White House asked scientists
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to investigate if coronavirus was bio-engineered.
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Oh, but don't believe us.
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I've got even ABC News with the same headline,
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White House asked scientists to investigate
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the origins of coronavirus, ABC News.
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You see here how the game is played.
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Alex's headline from Infowars is just a reposting
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of the article from Zero Hedge
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with a little spin added to it
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with added implications that the White House
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is specifically interested in investigating
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this as a bioweapon.
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That's an unfair reading of the actual article
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but it's in line with the Zero Hedge article.
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The Zero Hedge article is based on the ABC News story
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which it's misrepresenting by only focusing on
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and distorting the quote from Anthony Fauci
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in order to create their spin.
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You have this base story from ABC News
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which has spin added by Zero Hedge
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which is then reposted with added spin by Infowars
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and now Alex is reporting on that story on his show.
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To add credibility to his story,
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he says even ABC News is reporting on this
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and points to the ABC News article
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that was the basis for the Zero Hedge story
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and secondarily for his own report.
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This entire story is just propaganda
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spinning an ABC News story for their own purposes
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so it's a little weak to then say
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that ABC News even agrees with us on this.
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An honest outlet would just cover
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the ABC News article directly and accurately
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and then if they wanted to give added focus to Fauci,
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they're welcome to do that in an appropriate fashion.
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What Zero Hedge and Alex are doing is blatant bullshit
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and I say that much like Trump
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to indicate that this is serious.
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If you wanna see how blatant this shit is, consider this.
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No longer can the tail wag the dog.
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So here we are reporting on it first again
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and it's basically the exact same heaven
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that ABC News has because they can't cover this up anymore.
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The ABC News article is the source
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for the Zero Hedge article which Alex is reporting on
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but he's pretending that he put this article out
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and then ABC News was forced to stop covering up
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and report on this.
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This is brazen shit even for my Alex.
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Like you could just see the dates on stuff.
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Like it's not.
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This is absolutely disinformation metastasizing.
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Like you just watch this cancer grow.
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It's horrific.
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Yeah.
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God damn it.
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Now this is really great.
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So depressing.
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This is really great because Alex, in that last clip,
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you can very clearly see that he thinks
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that his actions caused this ABC News article.
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That's not how even.
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The coverup, how bad it really is, where it's going,
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what Trump should do.
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Dr. Boyle's saying Trump must take action
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and investigate it as man-made.
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Five hours later, his head scientist comes out
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and there's a press conference.
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Not saying we did that.
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I told the audience, call the White House, you did that.
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And let's toot our own horn.
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Don't toot your own horn
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because there's a problem with this theory.
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That interview with Francis Boyle happened on February 7th
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and he's trying to pretend that in response
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to that interview, everybody called the White House
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and then Trump had his science expert
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announce they were investigating this as a bioweapon.
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Leaving aside that Trump didn't do that,
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the ABC News article he's basing that narrative on
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was published on February 6th.
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The article predates Alex's interview with Francis Boyle.
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This is just a pathetic display of narcissism
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and embarrassing act of being wrong about basic details.
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Not since the Saxons were invaded by the Normans in 2064.
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Holy shit. Have I seen such lies.
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Well, get ready. Okay.
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Because we're about to outdo ourselves.
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Oh, God.
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Because Alex has a guest.
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So joining us on this emergency Saturday translation
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is Mike Adams. Don't say Mike Adams.
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God damn it!
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Thanks for holding for the last few minutes
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while I was ranting.
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What should we hit first?
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Just give us a prime approximation
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because you've been the most accurate person yet on this.
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It's over for humanity.
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You'll only be lone survivors.
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You son of a bitch.
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Okay, I-
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I knew that. I knew that.
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I cut it that way.
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That one's on me. He doesn't say that.
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So Alex says Mike Adams on
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because he's the most accurate player in the game, right?
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Here's what he has to say.
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First of all, anyone in the tech industry
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or the mainstream media that is pushing censorship
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of those of us who are telling the truth about this,
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those organizations are complicit in the deaths
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that are going to continue to occur even outside of China.
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They are, in essence, rooting for the virus
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by denying people accurate information that we need
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in order to be safe, to be prepared, to self-isolate,
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to avoid joining crowds, you know,
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to stay off the cruise ships
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and all the things that people need to do
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to stop the spread.
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So the left-wing media wants this to spread.
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The tech giants want it to spread.
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So now the stakes of him getting back on Facebook are,
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if you don't let me back on Facebook,
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you are on the side of the coronavirus.
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I will take that challenge, Mike.
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Please self-isolate.
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Put yourself in a small container.
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I just said, grow up.
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Ridiculous.
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I know you want back on Facebook,
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but this is getting embarrassing.
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Yeah, this is a tantrum.
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So Alex and him talk about like,
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hey, you know, like, hey, these people are creating
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these bioweapons.
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Sure.
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Maybe people should kill them.
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No.
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I'm gonna stop you, Mike, and I want you to start over,
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but I'm not trying to act tough saying execute them.
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If I was breeding a weapon that could kill a billion people
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in my garage and knew I was doing it,
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I mean, I deserve to be killed.
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I mean, I'm just at a point, I'm just,
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the default is people making race-specific weapons
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and stuff, it's already outlawed, don't do it,
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or a mob's gonna come and lynch your ass.
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I mean, I'm just at a certain point, it needs to stop.
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So, I mean, of course, I would agree with him
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that if people are creating race-specific bioweapons,
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then they should be put up on trial for war crimes.
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Yeah!
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I don't think it's healthy to, you know,
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do a show where you're saying that anybody
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who's researching vaccines is secretly trying to create
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offensive race-specific bioweapons and then be like,
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at a certain point, mobs are gonna come lynch you all.
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That's a nonsense.
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Even for him, that's ridiculous,
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because what's, okay, so then we get to that line again
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of like, okay, well, what's the level of horrific weapon
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that deserves a lynch mob?
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Sure.
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Should Oppenheimer be hung?
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Sure, should, how about fucking Smith and Wesson?
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I would say absolutely not.
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Yeah, well, what's the fucking, yeah.
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Right, I mean, that's one very real logistical concern,
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but more to the point, he's sort of implying
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that people should kill scientists.
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He's pretty seriously saying that, yes.
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So Mike Adams is really dumb,
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and a lot of his information is really stupid,
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and one of the things that you can really tell that by
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is things that he cites.
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Here's a prime example.
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Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London
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is now out there estimating 50,000 infections per day
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right now in China.
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Those are his estimates, not mine.
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I don't really care what Neil Ferguson thinks
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about the outbreak.
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For one, he's a guy who's been a past Info Wars guest,
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so he's suspicious right out of the gates.
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If he said that's correct, Alex,
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then he's already done in my book.
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Second, he's a professor of humanities
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with a degree in history and philosophy.
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He has no real standing here as an expert,
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so naturally, he's the sort of person
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Mike is citing as an expert on virology
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and epidemiology and virus expansion rates.
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Neil Ferguson has no standing here.
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He's not somebody who you cite as an expert
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in public health issues,
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but he's a past Info Wars guest,
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and he's saying what they want somebody to say,
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hey, you worked at the Imperial College,
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and now go fuck yourself.
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You can't cite Neil Ferguson here.
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And not just that.
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If it's not, you can't have 50,000 a day.
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What would happen is you'd have 50,000 a day
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and then 50,000 the next day
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and then 200,000 and then a million
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and then we'd all be fucking dead.
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If you're talking 50,000 new cases per day,
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that's going to progress geometrically
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in a way that is impossible to deal with.
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That's not a thing.
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But I mean, Neil Ferguson, he's a professor of history.
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Oh, okay.
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So he's watched.
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So you're wrong.
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Oh, fair enough.
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Anyway, that's just a really good example
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of who cares.
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What you're saying, who cares.
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I'm not going to take that seriously.
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And then second, it's just all over the place.
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Everything is flawed.
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All of their primary sources,
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all of their data is useless.
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If the death rate is 15 to 17%,
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which I will lay out here in a minute,
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China has admitted it, by the way,
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in a press conference, they accidentally admitted it.
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Then Neil Ferguson's estimates,
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Professor Ferguson, his estimates
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of 50,000 new infections a day
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translates to 7,500 deaths a day.
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So right here, I believe that what he's talking about
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is that Tencent website glitch
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is where you get the revelation
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of this higher mortality rate.
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And then you've got Neil Ferguson's
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humanities professor prediction.
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It's not worthwhile.
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So those are the two pieces so far.
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In China, over the next few weeks,
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because it takes time for people
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who are infected to start dying.
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And by the way, what did that Lancet study say
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about the spread rate and the infection rate
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and the death rate?
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83% infection rate for those who are exposed,
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15% mortality rate in the Lancet study.
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That Lancet study was not applicable
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to the general population.
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That was a study of people who presented
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with the pneumonias.
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It was a 41 sample size.
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They're already the more extreme cases.
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It's not applicable to the general population.
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Mike Adams is not dealing with this data responsibly.
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Now-
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So this is higher than the Lancet?
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It's in the range.
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It's a little bit higher, 17%.
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But listen to this.
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Remember the leaked data that came out of China
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where they had the second database
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and they accidentally showed the real numbers
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for a few minutes?
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And that was confirmed.
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Spend time on that.
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We've got time.
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I mean-
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It's not confirmed.
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That's just the 10 cent website glitch
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that people have theorized about.
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But now Alex is saying it's confirmed.
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It was a second set of data.
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It's all bullshit.
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None of the stuff that they're saying means anything.
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Yeah.
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I don't like that it seems like this is the only way
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they have fun.
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It does seem like, well, I mean, they're making money.
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Yeah, well, that's fair.
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That's fair.
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So earlier in the show and on the seventh,
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Alex has been suggesting that they won't send out
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the RNA pattern or the sequence because if they do,
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people will look into it and they'll find,
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oh my God, this is a Franken virus.
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Thousands of people have it.
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It's not true.
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It's everywhere.
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It's not true at all.
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You could probably get a copy if you ask politely.
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If I search that guy's Twitter thread,
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I'd probably find it.
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Anyway, that's not true.
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So now you have to,
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like Mike Adams can't make that claim
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because he knows that his own website
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has probably published pieces of it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like it's nonsensical.
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And so now you've got to move the goalpost.
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Why won't they send out samples of the virus?
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Like, well-
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Because you put Ebola in your fucking drink, you moron.
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That's why they don't send out samples.
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But then a secondary issue to that is like,
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if they did, you would criticize them for doing that.
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Absolutely.
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Why are they allowing these samples to be taken wherever?
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Like it's, again, they get you coming and going.
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No matter what you do, they're going to complain about it.
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Even if they were like,
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the only way to get rid of it is with bleach.
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They'd be like, ha ha, that's what we told you all along.
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But now you shouldn't drink bleach
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because they've been secretly putting the virus
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inside bleach now.
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And what about us people who are made of ammonia?
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Yeah, exactly.
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How do we mix with bleach?
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Well, it's also interesting.
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China has not released samples of this actual virus,
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the physical virus.
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They've released the data about it,
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but not the physical samples.
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However, any enemy nation such as Iran or North Korea-
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Enemy nation?
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Ten human volunteers to the Wuhan region,
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they'll get infected.
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They can bring it back
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and they can harvest it from their saliva
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and they can replicate it in egg yolks.
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Good thing Wuhan's under lockdown
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so the terrorists can't get into-
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Man.
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Yeah.
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So he believes like,
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yeah, just send 10 terrorists over there
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and then they'll get in and make egg yolks.
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Yeah.
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Turns out Mike's also an asshole.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how many virgins these Islamic terrorists get
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for blowing themselves up,
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but there's probably bonus virgins out there
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if they infect all of New York City
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or something with this virus.
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I don't know how their virginomics system works,
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but you know, they're insane.
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And they think they're gonna get rewarded
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for killing Americans.
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Now, guess what?
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They've been handed a new way to do that.
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It's a whole new vector,
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super easy to release in the United States.
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The CDC will not be able to contain that
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when that day comes.
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This is exactly the same things they said about Ebola.
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This is exactly the same thing they said
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about all of these public health things.
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Like, when Ebola was happening,
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they're like, what's stopping terrorists
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from going down and getting Ebola and then spreading it?
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Like, this is just standard boilerplate shit.
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It's nonsense.
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We're screwed.
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It's a new vector.
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We're screwed, Dan.
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It's a new vector.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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We're screwed because the right
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is getting too good at humor.
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Did you hear that?
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He definitely thought that was funny.
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Bonus virgins.
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He thinks he's great.
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Virginomics or whatever.
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Virginomics, ugh.
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Guy's clever.
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Oh, man.
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I remember being in open mics 20 years ago
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when that was funny.
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So, Mike has other big news, though,
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that feeds into this sense of panic
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that everybody should be feeling,
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and it's bullshit.
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We're getting reports of mass school closures
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where they're shutting down entire campuses
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all across America right now.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, get to that.
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Get to that.
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Right.
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Well, when I was a kid,
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when I went to school,
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they never shut down the school system
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just because some kids got sick.
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Now, suddenly, there are mass school closings happening
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that's shutting down the whole campus.
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I don't know when he was in school,
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or I don't care, really.
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It happens every year.
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Schools close during flu season.
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It's not every school district.
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It's not every city,
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but you can Google it very easily
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and find articles year by year by year
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about schools closing
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because of an outbreak of the flu at the school.
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That happens all the time.
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Like, Mike is a fucking asshole
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pretending that it's unheard of
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that this year there are schools closing
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because of the flu
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because it helps him push his bullshit narratives.
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This is deeply disturbed behavior.
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Yeah.
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We need a government program to Truman Show these guys.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We need to isolate them.
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We need to build actors around them
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so they feel safe and comfortable.
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Problem with this plan.
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I don't want to watch that show.
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Oh, that's true.
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I don't want to watch that show either.
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Yeah.
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So it's interesting.
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Maybe we just keep them in a dome.
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It's interesting.
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All their information is just dog shit.
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It's so bad.
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I don't even know what else to say.
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It's all stupid.
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Yeah.
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This is insane.
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But there's also a level
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of just like rank narcissism flying around.
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We should have you back on the regular Sunday show
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or the Monday show tomorrow
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to really break this down.
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Options for Trump.
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He's clearly listening.
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Trump's clearly listening.
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That is a reference back to him
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believing that his interview with Francis Boyle
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precipitated the ABC News article
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that came out prior to the interview.
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This is lunacy.
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Anyway.
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Jesus.
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Despite them being wrong about everything.
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Everything.
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Everything.
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Literally everything.
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Yeah, totally.
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Even their own descriptions of things
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that they know to be true.
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Despite all that, they're usually right.
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I don't have some talking points somebody gave me.
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We're two men with a great crew of men and women behind us
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telling it like it is.
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What do you hate?
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We have research on what we're saying.
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Just like somebody at 5,000 years ago
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on the tribe standing up and saying,
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I just saw ships landing out there
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and they got weapons.
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They're coming to enslave us.
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And everybody knows.
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What?
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You're a liar.
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You tell the truth.
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Well, you're somebody in the tribe
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that's always told the truth.
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You might've made a mistake a few times,
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but most of the time you're right.
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They get their weapons to get ready.
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Now, some little lie and cry wolf person
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like Brian Stelter gets up.
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They might throw them off a cliff
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or tell them to get out of town.
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But when somebody gets up
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and tells the truth over and over again,
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they get ready.
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Now, maybe those ships just landed
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and decided to leave.
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The point is the ships are landing.
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This looks really bad.
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We hope it isn't as bad as it looks,
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but we're not going to lie to you
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and tell you what we're saying.
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I would love to have half of Alex's confidence
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about his own behaviors.
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He doesn't recognize that he's been wrong
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about everything constantly.
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Everything.
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I mean, he probably does,
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but you can't let that show.
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Well, the problem is-
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Because if you do,
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then you're showing your ass a little bit.
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The problem is, even if he does recognize that,
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he doesn't know the real truth,
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which is that he's wrong about everything.
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True.
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Even if he knows he's wrong about most of it,
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he still thinks he's right about at least a few things.
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Yeah, probably.
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And those few things,
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he needs to be disabused of the notion
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that they are true.
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And look-
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Everything is fiction in his life.
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He's sitting here saying that,
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like, hey, man, we're just two dudes
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telling it like it is.
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We don't have talking points.
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Stop!
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You know what your talking points are?
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Sure, you don't call them talking points.
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Yeah.
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They're zero hedge headlines.
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Those are your talking points.
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You do have talking points.
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Your talking points are whatever it is
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that will help you sell fucking whatever it is
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that can be sold.
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Yeah, they're bullet points on a sales list.
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Exactly.
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That's what you,
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that's your talking points.
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Yup.
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Dick.
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So this ends with about 15 minutes of Alex
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doing sales pitches.
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Yeah.
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It's bad.
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We're not gonna listen to any of that.
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Good.
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They're done talking about the coronavirus nonsense
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for now.
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Yeah.
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Alex and Mike have a little bit of a discussion
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about Trump's firings of Colonel Vindman.
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Right.
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And Sondland.
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I'm sure that they're against it.
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No.
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It's another abuse.
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No.
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It's a retaliatory thing.
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They love it.
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No, you should have protections.
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Nope.
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And you shouldn't be able to.
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The fans.
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Okay.
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Can't get enough.
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No, it's because that's an authoritarian.
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More curve balls thrown at him
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and because he's a symbol of nationalism and populism.
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He's had his best week since he came down that escalator
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four and a half years ago in my view.
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Do you agree with that?
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How is the deep state going to strike back now?
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They're talking about it's bad.
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He fired Vindman and the ambassador Sondland.
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That should be the tip of the iceberg.
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He needs to talk about purge.
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He needs to purge anybody that's been Soros,
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anybody that's in the Ocon, anybody that's been deep state,
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anybody that's a leftist because they're all slaves.
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They're all committed to evil.
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There's no way they're not going to keep sabotaging.
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Trump finally has to begin the political purge.
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He's the executive.
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He has a right to clean house.
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This is the Trump we've been waiting for.
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It's time for Trump to not only purge all those traitors
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and deep staters and drain that swamp,
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it's time to lock her up.
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So that's cool.
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I mean, if Trump were to do something more extreme
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in terms of shoring up power,
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clearing out dissent within the government,
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any critical voices, let's say,
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it's good to know that Alex and Mike would see that
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as the Trump we've been waiting for.
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As we all know, Alex is a student of history.
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Loves it.
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And he knows that when an autocratic leader
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surrounds himself with nothing but yes men.
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It works.
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Good things happen.
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It works well.
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Good things happen.
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All I hear is him saying he's very excited
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for a peaceful transition of power in 2022.
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Totally.
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I think he's really excited about it.
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But the thing is, dude, look, these firings,
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sure, they might look like retaliation
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for people who testified against Trump.
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No.
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He just said they were a purge.
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Well, it might look like that,
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but it's just because they were deep state.
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They were deep state.
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That's still a purge.
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Point is, this is the deep state being removed.
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This is the anti-American being removed.
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This is the cancer being removed.
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And the ambassador and all of them being removed.
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And they're like, the president can't do this.
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Oh, he can't fire who he wants in his own administration?
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Look dude, Sondland was not deep state.
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He was like a businessman.
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He was a career.
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Yeah.
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He's a careerist.
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He was a guy who worked at it.
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He donated to Trump.
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Yeah.
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And Trump was like, here's a job.
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It's not the deep state.
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Fucking insane.
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Yeah.
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This is all nonsense.
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Anyway, we laugh, but it's real tragedy.
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You can call anybody a traitor ex post facto.
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It's true.
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It's kind of surprising that the moment he does something you don't like, he's been deep
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state all along.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, what we see over the course of this couple of days is like a real pivot in
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the coronavirus narrative towards like the it's now definitively, it's a bio weapon.
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It's probably race specific.
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China might be false flagging themselves, but if it's the United States, then it's just
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payback for fentanyl and it's totally ethical for us to do that.
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That's super weird.
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Alex talks to Francis Boyle and then he has to sort of backpedal and be like, yeah, bio
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labs are the problem.
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Yeah.
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This is all very troubling stuff.
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I don't like where it's going.
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I don't know where it can go, but then our trend that we saw on, I believe it was on
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the last episode where Alex is talking about outlawing the democratic party that's still
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in there too, but it's put to the back burner because Alex needs to push all the stuff to
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sell the product.
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Okay.
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New pitch.
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All right.
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Here's my new idea.
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We write up some templates, all right?
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And if you can plug Trump into one of these templates, then you know it's bad because
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these are shit written by gerbils and a pro Stalinists and Putinists and all of these
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people.
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And if you can just put Trump in there, then we know it's a bad idea, right?
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I mean, it's simple.
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It's been, I think people have done this.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's worked, right?
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Nope.
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Oh shit.
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Anyway, sorry about this episode being very, um, outbreak heavy and a little bit depressing.
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Yeah.
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There is a weird vibe.
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Yeah.
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I feel weird a little bit.
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Maybe it's look, I know it was tough.
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It's a little lame.
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It's getting laborious that Alex won't stop coming up with new lies that he's reading
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on zero hedge about the coronavirus, but I think if nothing else that Anthony Fauci stuff,
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I think is fucking hilarious.
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The way Alex is pretending that he's known about him for months, that's, that's just,
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you didn't need to make that lie.
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That's just another one of those lies where he's like, it was 30 guys and I fought them
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all instead of it was, it was three guys fighting off three guys is still an amazing thing.
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You can just say three guys.
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We'd all be excited for you.
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What a mess.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, hopefully the next episode will be non coronavirus related, unless the sales
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end then I don't think we're going to, he's out of the gargle.
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Once he's out of all that stuff, I think we might be, uh, we might be onto a different
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might finally get that, uh, in studio surgery waiting for, but we will see, uh, we'll be
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back.
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Uh, but until then we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledge fight.com.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
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We are, uh, yeah, we're on Facebook.
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We sorry.
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Yeah.
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Uh, yeah.
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Unlike Mike Adams, uh, and, uh, Alex Jones, we're on Facebook and if you'd like to download
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the show, please go to iTunes or wherever podcast tool apps are sold, reliever, review
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rate, whatever.
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Donate.
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It's lovely.
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Yeah.
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Uh, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am old English swear words.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
