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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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fight.
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Dan and George, knowledge fight.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Need, need money.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Have you ever been on the receiving end of a random act of kindness by a stranger or
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the like?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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Okay, cool.
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Moving on.
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Now, onto the episode.
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We've got some people who are a random act of kindness who've joined in our Patreon.
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No, I'm certain I have a... Oh, I mean, I've... Wow, I can't remember the exact specifics
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of this, but someone went out of their way to give me my wallet back once.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I remember just the amazing relief of that.
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It was crazy, just the like, oh, thank God.
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You lose your wallet.
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You lose a lot.
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Oh, for sure.
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No, no, no.
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There's a lot of various things that are tough to replace, licenses, credit cards.
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I had my social security card in my wallet for a while.
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Yeah.
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I did too at that time.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, shit.
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That's fucked up.
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Because I didn't realize anybody.
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Right.
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Oh, great.
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Now my social security card.
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Right, right, right.
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You can get a new card, but you can't get a new number.
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It was just like, fucking shit.
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I just thought everything was over.
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Yeah.
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I mean, not over, but- Right, right, right.
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Yeah, this person went out of their way to get the license back, or the wallet back to
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me.
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It was like, I'm missing from it.
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It was like... There are moments like that, that I definitely have experienced, but they're
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not... There's not a... I don't know why they don't stick out in my head as much.
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Isn't that awful?
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It's a bummer.
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That the fucking... I can remember single heckler nights, but there are some random
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acts of kindness.
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I'm like, man, that was really nice.
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Fuck that guy over there.
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Yeah.
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It's just how your brain works.
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Totally saved you from so much trouble.
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It's such a bummer.
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And you're like, eh.
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Moving along.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Next.
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There's one guy who mildly inconvenienced me, I'm going to think about for the next
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decade.
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Yup.
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That's pretty good.
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You got it.
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We should do something about that.
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We're probably going to die looking.
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I'm going to reflect on that and try and value nice moments more in the future.
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So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode... Oh wait, there's a podcast where
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I don't know much about my memories of random acts of kindness, but I do know a lot about
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Alex Jones.
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And I don't know much about either, Dad.
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So today Jordan, of course, on Mondays where you're generally back in the past, going over
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2013, seeing how Alex has progressed after the Sandy Hook shooting and the Boston bombing
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now.
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There's nothing important has gone on in the present day.
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I'm assuming we can just get back right into it, right?
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They can't, unfortunately.
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Oh no.
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Alex Jones has received a very bad piece of news.
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Oh yeah, what's that?
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That Roger Stone is going to prison.
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Somebody has let me know.
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Roger Stone has been found guilty on all seven charges that he was facing, and he's looking
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at up to 50 years in prison, but of course he's not going to get 50 years.
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No, no.
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He's going to get three.
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It's going to be pathetic.
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It seems low, but I would be surprised if it's more than like eight.
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That's kind of where I'm at.
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And in terms of how much time he's actually going to serve, I would be surprised if it's
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more than three or four.
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Whatever the case is, I think that would be silly for us to guess at this point.
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So whatever, what will happen will happen, we'll learn along the way.
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But if he gets 50 years in prison, that'll be the most hilarious thing ever.
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We will definitely be drinking champagne on that day.
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I don't think so, actually, because I would be kind of against that.
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I am super against it, too.
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That's the worst part.
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I think it's way too strong a sentence.
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Even as much as I hate Roger, I think...
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I'm against long prison sentences.
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I have to continue to be against long prison sentences despite how fucking awful Roger
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Stone is.
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Even a shorter prison sentence for him, I'm not positive, is productive.
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Yeah, I don't think there's any rehabilitation that...
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That's like saying Jim Bakker was rehabilitated, like it's not happening.
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I don't know what you do, because the issue is you've got to take away or somehow mitigate
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his ability to be, as they say, a rat fucker.
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I think you have to cut his tongue out?
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What are we doing?
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No.
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I don't know if going to prison achieves that goal.
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He's not going to learn a lesson.
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No, there's no lessons to be learned.
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No, I don't pretend to know the right answer.
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But whatever the case is, Alex thinks he's going to get 50 plus years in prison.
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Of course.
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They're just going to let him die in prison.
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Whatever.
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So we have to go over this, because it's an unfolding saga in Alex's life.
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So today we're going over November 14th and 15th of 2019, which is, I guess, what would
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that have been?
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Thursday and Friday of last week.
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And so Thursday, the 14th, is when Alex still doesn't know what's going to happen.
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Roger isn't sentenced until Friday.
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So his behavior before sentencing and after, I think you'll see his behavior isn't great.
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Okay.
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Right.
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And so we'll enjoy that as we go along.
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But before we get down to business today, we've got to take a moment to say thank you
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to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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So first of all, Samuel, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Next, Steve.
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Not pajanic, but Steve, thank you so much.
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Thank you, Lindsey.
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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who bumped up their donation
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are on an elevated level, and we appreciate that very much.
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And unfortunately, they are both people who have maybe corrected my pronunciation in the
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past.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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And this is a redemption arc?
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I know.
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And oh man.
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I think I might have gotten it right.
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Naja, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And Ayo, thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Naja and Ayo.
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We appreciate it very much.
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Thank you very much.
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the button that says support the show, we'd appreciate it.
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Indeed we would.
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That's ominous.
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So, Jordan, before we get down to business, let's hear an out of context drop from today's
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show.
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I'm going to start once they're asking me what TikTok is.
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I'm curious too.
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Was that when he was on the stand?
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Was he under oath whenever he had to answer that question?
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It might've just been in the halls.
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Someone asking him about- What's TikTok?
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What's a TikTok?
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What did he say?
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What did Alex say?
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I don't know.
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He didn't get his answer to that very pressing question.
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I took my children's phones away.
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So, Jordan, today, like I said, this is the saga of Roger and Alex.
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On the 14th- A song of ice and fire, if you will.
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On the 14th, Roger's case is still ongoing and Alex behaves in ways that I think probably
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caused some problems for Roger's trial.
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He's on air and his big position is essentially that this is going to be a railroading.
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They want to basically railroad Roger Stone, as we all know.
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And once they set the precedent for that, they think they're going to railroad everybody
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else and it's real cheering and it's woken a lot of people up.
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And I've learned a lot of really horrible things about the trial from the Stone camp
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last night and this morning and reporters that are going to be joining us.
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And this whole thing is a lot bigger than Roger Stone.
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This is about due process in this country being flushed down the toilet because once
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due process is gone, if you think there's already tyranny in this country, well, wait,
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we'll get as bad as North Korea, probably a lot worse because we tend to do everything
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real big here in America.
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I'd like to point out that yesterday on his show, Steve Pacenik was on talking about how
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due process doesn't work in the United States and it's a joke.
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What's the problem?
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Get rid of it.
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It's due process.
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What?
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From day to day, anything can be true, Dan.
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I just need a guy in the Department of Justice who will throw people in prison.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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I don't have any faith in courts.
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No, no.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, he had a very trusted guest talking about, oh, this guy's amazing.
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And this is about the end of due process in America and it's not for me.
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It's for them.
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Why is it happening to me?
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Yeah.
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So, Alex is primarily focused on Roger Stone's case, but he's also touching in on the impeachment
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inquiry.
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Sure.
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Largely, his take on it is dismissive.
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It's more or less not covering any of the substance of what's going on.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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That's the rule.
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None of the things that are being said by like Bill Taylor or the former ambassador
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to Ukraine.
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Just sort of just letting a lot of that stuff go on set.
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I think Fox News is eventually going to run reruns of H.R. Puff and stuff and all that
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stuff because they are not really happy with what's going on.
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It seems like Alex is in the same camp.
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He's not going the same route as a lot of these other media outlets that I've seen where
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their coverage is like, oh, this is boring.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thanks, guys.
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His is just like, ah, it's a dog and pony show.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So, in terms of the impeachment, he has a weird theory about it.
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And that's the next phase is the Democrats are now calling for there not to be a trial
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in the Senate.
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Just if the House votes that impeachment proceedings have initiated, well, they're already had
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the trial.
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They're claiming, you know, that's not how it works with this show trial.
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And so the Senate doesn't need one way because if they have a real trial, Trump will be totally
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and completely exonerated, just like Roger Stone would have been.
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In the Senate, predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty.
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I don't believe there's a lot of truth to what Alex is saying about, like, I don't even
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need to do anything in the Senate.
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It's all taken care of here.
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I'm sure whatever procedure needs to be taken, people would be fine with.
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And I don't think that I've heard many voices and Democratic or left sides have any faith
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that the Senate is going to vote to remove, even if the impeachment makes it through the
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House.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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I don't think anybody thinks that that's going to proceed that way.
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Right.
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Well, nobody does.
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I think everybody on the right agrees we can handle this.
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And Trump is really trying hard to make it so they can't.
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Like if Trump would just be quiet, I swear to God, everything would be fine.
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They'd they'd keep up.
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They'd have 40 senators vote to exonerate him.
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He'd be fine.
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Everything would go on.
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He'd probably win the election.
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But he keeps tweeting and he's threatening a witness and they're like, God damn it.
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Shut up.
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We're saving you.
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We're trying.
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Yeah.
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It's a it's a little weird.
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Yeah.
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And then there, Alex is saying that he predicts Roger is going to be found guilty.
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Well, yeah, that's because he did it.
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That's because he knows that Roger's fucking real guilty.
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So Alex goes on with his prediction here.
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And as you can see, very conveniently sets up the whatever the case, even if he's guilty,
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he's not guilty.
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Narratives.
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I am predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty.
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Six counts, probably by the.
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Rig jury.
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And believe me, is it rigged?
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Remember, we exposed those in the news that a major Democrat official from the Obama administration,
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his husband worked in the Mueller probe.
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Was selected for the jury when we exposed that and said, you shouldn't have Obama or
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Hillary or anybody else at work for him at a high level on the jury.
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They said I should be arrested for jury tampering when all I was doing was exposing corruption.
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Of course, it turned out it was all totally legal.
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But now we know that there are a bunch of other Obama officials and Hillary officials
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and spooks from the CIA are indeed on that jury.
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One juror clearly was supporting Stone.
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She fell down yesterday and hit her head and was replaced by an alternate juror, as they
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call them.
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No, you can't make this up.
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Alex later says that she was like in a pool of blood.
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It's real sensational.
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What happened?
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I don't know.
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I haven't been following this.
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It's really easy for Alex to come up with whatever disparaging thing he wants to say
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about some of these jurors because it's in DC.
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The odds are in the jury pool, there are going to be some government workers, a history of
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civil service perhaps.
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And given that the last eight years prior to 2016 was during the Obama administration,
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it makes sense that some people might have some of that in their resume.
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You could make up whatever you want about any of these people based on a resume thing.
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I read a story that someone on the jury had worked for the IRS.
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Great.
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Now we get to turn this into an anti-tax fund thing.
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Whatever you want to do, you can do.
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The only jury they would accept is if everybody was a long-haul truck driver but they were
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independent contractors.
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And they all had Trump bumper stickers on their trucks.
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So there's no indication that I can find that there's any foul play in the jury with Roger's
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trial, but it doesn't matter.
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Alex made such a huge prediction and production out of trying and failing twice to identify
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the potential juror who worked for the Obama Office of Management and Budget, so now that
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narrative is firmly in place.
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That woman didn't make the jury.
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Alex was completely wrong about everything in that story, but because he established
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it as a clear indication of railroading, all he needs to do to prove to his audience that
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Roger was set up is to yell about that person who didn't even end up as a juror.
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It's real flimsy work, but it does work, apparently.
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Yeah, that's not fair.
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I can't find any evidence that an elderly woman juror who was pro-Roger fell down and
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hit her head, which I'm sure Alex is bringing up to suggest was an inside job.
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Of course it was!
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I'm guessing this is just based on the person who collapsed in the courtroom on the first
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day of preliminary jury selection.
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That story went around when Roger was also hit fruit poisoning or whatever.
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So she's turned into a woman who is hit in the head by a candlestick and we've got to
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get to the bottom of it.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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There's no reason to think that person was even a potential juror, let alone an actual
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one.
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I would say it's probably impossible they made the jury, considering they collapsed
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and received medical attention on the day the jury was being selected.
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So if that's what he's trying to bring in, I'm not sure.
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No way.
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It's like the Michael Jordan flu game.
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She came back and she fucking nailed the jury questioning.
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I'm not saying it's impossible that someone was replaced by an alternate juror.
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That is entirely possible, but I can't find any real information about this.
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And later, the only information Alex has is coming from Joe Biggs, who was there.
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Rambo Joe Biggs.
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He was there at the courtroom and he says that the woman juror who gets replaced was
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anti Roger.
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Okay.
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So it's actually contradictory to-
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So it's the other way around in even then.
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I don't see any reality to this.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But it's what Alex needs because he knows Roger is going to be found guilty and he needs
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defense.
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So Alex brings up that he talked to Roger last night.
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He should not have done that.
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The night of the 13th.
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He should not have done that.
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This is an incredibly important point in human history right now and I can tell you that
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when Roger is convicted, and I'm almost always right, maybe a miracle is going to happen.
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You know, I talked to him last night and he said, only a miracle of God right now is going
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to stop this.
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And he said he wouldn't talk about what happened inside.
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He's not going to give the judge any reason to nail him even harder.
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So I talked to people that were in the courtroom and they said that the jury shakes with hate
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at him and stares at him like they want to kill him in their virtue signaling to the
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media and all of the intelligence agency operatives and Obama and Hillary officials that are in
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there staring at Roger like they want to kill him.
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Oh, right.
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So this is not a fair trial.
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I mean, if everybody's staring at him like he wants to kill him.
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Shaking with hatred.
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Shaking with hatred.
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That's tough.
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I don't know if I've ever shook with hatred.
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Only on this show have I shook with hatred.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that's a common phenomenon.
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Yeah.
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I don't believe any of this.
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This is just coming from bullshit Roger fans at the trial who are just trying to come up
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with whatever narrative is possible to impugn the trial.
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That's all that's going on here.
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I imagine if I could guess at human behavior, assuming that most of these people don't have
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a wide breadth of knowledge regarding Roger Stone that we do, rather than shake with hatred,
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they probably all just kind of rolled their eyes a bunch.
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Whenever he talked, they were like, that's obviously bullshit.
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You can't say that in the court.
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You can say that out there.
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Roger didn't talk.
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He didn't take the stand.
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Nice.
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That's smart.
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He didn't even try and defend himself.
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Of course not.
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He did it.
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How are you going to defend yourself when you have these text messages that you sent
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to Randy Kretiko where you're telling him prepare to die, cocksucker?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That one's tough to talk your way around.
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You have just tons of literal evidence of you witness tampering, trying to plead the
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fifth.
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Of course.
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You sent a note to one of the jury members that you'd give them $50,000.
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That's what kind of tampering you're doing here, buddy.
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The only possible outcome of you testifying is being asked a question that you don't want
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to answer.
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That's the only thing.
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Whatever.
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From everything I can tell, Roger and his team were just sort of like, let's get through
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this and hope for a light sentence.
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We don't want to plead guilty, but we don't want to cause too much trouble.
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That's the sense that I get.
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So anyway, whatever.
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Alex has talked to Roger, but he has to be very careful about what he says.
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All right.
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I have talked to Roger Stone last night and this morning, and I've talked to a lot of
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the reporters that were in the trial yesterday where the closing statements of the defense
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and the prosecution ended at 10 a.m. Eastern, about two and a half hours ago.
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They began deliberations.
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Now Roger hasn't violated his gag order.
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Getting into the case with me, he just said that he leaves it in God's hands and that
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he's praying for a miracle.
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And then I talked to reporters like Joe Biggs, Jacob Ingles and others, not reporters.
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Jacob Ingles has been threatened with arrest if he talks about the Obama officials that
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they put on the jury, not just the one that we exposed, the judge removed, but others.
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And as soon as the verdict comes out, you're going to get to learn about what is undoubtedly
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the fakest trial I've ever heard of in U.S. history.
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There is not a lot of information that he produces after the verdict that proves this
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is the fakest trial.
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No.
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It's the fakest trial in American history.
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No.
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And I love the way that this always works.
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He yells about something.
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The natural, obvious, real world conclusion of the thing happens, then he takes credit
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for it.
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Yeah.
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That person wasn't going to make the jury.
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No.
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That's obviously not going to happen.
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He screams about it knowing that the person's not going to make the jury.
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We exposed it.
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We won.
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We did it, guys.
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It's a load of shit.
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It's taken down.
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Unfortunately, they had more than enough to convict him on account of, he did it, again,
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again.
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Yeah.
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So the line tends to be that Roger didn't do anything wrong, and that Trump obviously...
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Roger got Trump elected, and he needs to come through for the guy.
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Alex and Trump and Roger, they were all so connected.
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And Alex says something really weird in this next clip.
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Hell, I got invited once to Mar-a-Lago, and to go to the secret tunnel, but I didn't go
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because I had a family emergency, but Roger went, and I'm not telling any secrets here.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Not telling any secrets.
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About the secret tunnel?
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How'd you describe that tunnel?
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I didn't know there was a tunnel there.
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Apparently, there's a secret tunnel.
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Apparently, it was a secret.
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Now that I know there's a secret tunnel, I would like more information about this tunnel.
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Apparently, Alex got invited to go to the secret tunnel.
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Tunnels are not necessarily things that are very exciting, except to children.
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Exploring around, you find a tunnel, very exciting.
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As an adult, a tunnel is sort of a byway.
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It gets you somewhere.
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It's on the way to what now, Dan?
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That's the secret.
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It's good to know that our president really does lean into the supervillain James Bond
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style aesthetic.
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Even his Mar-a-Lago estate has secret fucking tunnels.
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I would assume that that makes some sense, though, especially now that he's the president.
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If he's going to be there a lot, you've got to have some secure area.
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That kind of thing.
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I'm sure.
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I'm guessing that the secret tunnel was there a long time ago.
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Sure.
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Even that kind of makes sense.
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You've got to put some place where you can go into lockdown or-
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Sure.
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I suppose.
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I don't think that it necessarily means something like there's a secret Pizzagate basement or
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whatever.
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I'm not saying there's a Pizzagate basement.
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I also don't think it's all that-
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But at least it's a Sbarro.
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Sure.
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Maybe.
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Maybe it's got a little pedway down there.
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Got a food court.
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Yeah.
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I think that'd be great.
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Sure.
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Like underneath Willis Tower, Sears Tower, if you're a Chicagoan.
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Hey.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how secret this is because I have very little interest in-
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Finding out about the architecture of Mar-a-Lago?
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Never have had much interest in that.
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That might be like a poorly kept secret or whatever, but I've never heard about it.
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Alex is the first person to bring it up to me, so I feel like he's revealing secrets.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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But the truth is that the globalists just hated Stone, Roger, because he gave Trump
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great advice.
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And so that's why they got enraged by Stone and were obsessed with him was because he
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was giving the president great advice because they go back 44 years now, and Stone used
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to be Trump's wingman, dating, and Trump's beard.
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And again, Trump is not having a beard for homosexual sex.
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Beards go the other way too, where your buddy goes out with you and your girlfriend when
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you're famous.
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So people don't know that you're out with your girlfriend.
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They think it's their girlfriend.
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And that's what Stone and Trump go way back in is originally sometimes dating the same
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women.
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Okay.
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I love- So is that something you want to say?
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I love that this is the level that we've reached.
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I know that Alex has brought this up before in the past, but he seems very focused on
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it now that Roger is on trial.
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He's really bringing it up.
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And I don't know if this is an attempt to humanize Roger.
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I don't know if it's an attempt to make us all think about Roger and Trump both having
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slept with the same woman and pretending that that's okay.
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Whatever it is is weird.
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Everything about this is weird.
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It's a family show.
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Why would you tell anyone that?
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That's the type of thing you don't tell people.
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Because that's very unrelatable.
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They used to date the same women.
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It deteriorates from here, even.
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How does it- And I can tell you the two get in fights with
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each other too.
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I mean, Stone talks straight to the president and they get in big arguments and all the
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rest of it.
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So- You fucked my girlfriends.
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Girlfriends that each other had back and forth, they never double teamed any chicks.
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I'm not trying to get graphic here, but the media will spin all this stuff.
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Family show.
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Family show.
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The media's going to spin all this stuff?
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Right.
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I would say if they are adult people getting in fights over girlfriends that they share,
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they are children.
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I don't think this is a good defense.
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This makes Trump and Roger both look really childish.
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And a little bit territory, a little bit possessive.
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If they have an understanding where they can both date the same women, then fighting over
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that woman is very gross.
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That is an inappropriate type of behavior.
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You should, if you're in for a penny, in for a pound.
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And I assume during this time- It's turning that girl that you're dating,
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this woman that you're dating into a thing that you're fighting over.
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That's shitty.
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Man, that sure seems to be something that Trump has a long track record of doing perhaps.
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Yeah, it seems like it might be.
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So I don't think this is a good defense.
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I really wish the mainstream media would twist this story and so I could get a fantastic
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chyron of just Stone and Trump Eiffel-Towered same woman and just moving it on.
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Or didn't.
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Oh, didn't.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Got to get ahead of the story.
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So like I said, Joe Biggs was on the scene, Rambo Joe Biggs.
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Rambo Joe Biggs.
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And here is him contradicting Alex's narrative about the replaced juror.
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We're expecting it to be just not good.
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We've seen that this has been a hit from the get-go, but we're all hoping for the best.
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We know one of the jurors got sick, she was a lady that would actually kind of snarl at
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the sight of Roger.
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So she's not been replaced with someone else.
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So that could be good news.
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You never know.
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So Alex's position was that the replaced juror was someone who was pro Roger and was clearly
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taken out in order to make sure that he gets convicted.
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Hit with a candlestick.
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Apparently the person who was there on the scene, Rambo Joe Biggs, is saying that this
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woman snarled at Roger.
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So her getting replaced is actually probably a good thing.
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Yeah.
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You can't have it both ways.
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Can you have it both ways?
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You know what?
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You can if you're Alex.
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Okay.
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It turns out you can.
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I forgot.
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I forgot.
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So Alex is kind of surprised how much he's worried for Roger, which I think is strange
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because the two of them got very close over the last few years.
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I would be surprised if he wasn't really worried for Roger.
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He's going to prison.
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Yeah.
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I don't think Alex is familiar with these feelings such as care for another human being.
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I still think it's primarily selfish in that if Roger goes down, I'm an ex.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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So I still think that there's a bit of a self-centeredness to it, but he's surprised.
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I'm really surprised how much I'm worried about Roger Stone.
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I mean, I like the guy.
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I know the guy.
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He's a man.
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I'm a man.
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He knows the business he's in.
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It's a dangerous game fighting these tyrants.
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Just to watch them systematically rig the media, rig the indictment, rig the jury, and
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to learn the judge laughing and snorting and cackling and not letting him have any of his
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witnesses.
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Roger was not allowed to have any witnesses.
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The defense didn't call any witnesses.
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Right.
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Because then they would be asked questions.
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Those questions would lead to, yeah, he did it.
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Or the people that Roger could call, he would want to lie for him and no one would do it.
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Like who would be his witness?
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Randy Credico.
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Not anymore.
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Randy Credico is testifying against him.
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Roger doesn't want to call Jerome Corsi to the stand.
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No, no.
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That's bullshit.
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That's no good.
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There's no win for him in calling witnesses.
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No.
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But it's really good for the court of public opinion.
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It's really good for Alex that Roger didn't take the stand and didn't call any witnesses
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because externally you could look at that as the judge didn't let him take the stand.
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If only Roger could have got up there, he would have been Jack Nicholson and a few good
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men.
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Sure.
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He was going to put the system on trial.
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He was being admitted to the crime too.
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So there's an issue.
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Forget about it.
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Not important.
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It's a great scene.
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It's a great scene.
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He would have gotten up there and destroyed, but because he wasn't allowed to, he was fucking
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railroaded.
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It's a perfect thing.
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It's really good for Alex.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex says that he talked to Roger and part of that is that now he is going to deliver
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a message from Roger.
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And I think that this is not good for anybody.
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Donate me.
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Don't donate money to me.
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It gets to that.
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Of course it does.
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But I think that this is not good for anyone except Alex.
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If you look at this from a game theory perspective, Alex is the only person with a positive outcome.
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All right.
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I like that.
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We are going to have to stand up for Stone and we're going to have to speak up for Stone.
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And as soon as I was making some calls this morning, people are like, well, we don't want
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to get Stone in trouble.
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We don't want to get in trouble with this judge.
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This judge is not God folks.
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She wants, she called for my arrest last week.
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And then the whole law profession said, no, what he did is totally legal.
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And this is dangerous to have a judge saying you can't question jurors.
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Juror info is public.
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The entire law profession.
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The entire law profession came out and said, this is cool.
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Law.
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Okay.
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Doesn't matter if MSNBC says it isn't.
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But I can tell people that this is what Roger's wishes are.
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And so it's not just me up here coming up with a plan, free Roger Stone.
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It's Roger's right if he's wrongfully convicted to watch the media will say it's not to call
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for the president to pardon him.
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So Alex is introducing that he has a message from Roger and it's really crucial that he's
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stressing that this is what Roger wants because the trial is still going.
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Right.
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This is a murky territory.
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I'm not sure anything is necessary illegal in that, but it's a bad strategy move.
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I really don't like how often in regards to so much of this stuff we have to say, I don't
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think it's necessarily illegal.
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It's a gray area.
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We're living in a place where a lot of stuff probably should be illegal in certain ways.
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And none of it is.
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It's strange though.
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The technicalities.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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You can get away with that.
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Yeah.
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We're all like, wait, wait, wait.
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You can just release somebody else's name who's not a potential juror to violence from
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your people.
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And that's fine.
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Cool.
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Oh boy.
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Alex has Joe Biggs on the scene, Rambo Joe Biggs, and he apparently is a part of a plan
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that Alex is launching, which is Roger's wishes as he's expressed.
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Okay.
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And it's not a good plan.
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Just going back to Joe Biggs, Joe, obviously you've been let in on the plan and if and
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when he is convicted, which I would expect will be this afternoon or tomorrow, it's good
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news the longer they're out, they've been out three hours now.
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We need everyone to go to the White House and surround it for days.
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We need more and more people to come there for due process and for justice and to say
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and to chant free Roger Stone.
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Again, you just had Steve Pacanich on anti due process, but I think that there's nothing
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wrong with encouraging people to go to the White House and demonstrate, but I don't trust
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that Joe Biggs is going to be a responsible person to be involved in that seeing as he
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has posted videos with a spiky bat or whatever, threatening Antifa, he's down with the proud
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boys.
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I don't think that the indication that Joe is quote in on the plan leads me to suspect
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that this will be a very poorly carried out demonstration.
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I just always think it's a good idea to put notoriously violent people in front of and
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leading a mob.
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I think that's just a great way to deal with things.
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I think it's irresponsible.
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If done with correct permitting and people behaving themselves and no proud boys, I would
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like that.
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The idea that people would go and just hold signs and protest for Roger to get a pardon,
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I don't really necessarily think that's a bad thing.
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I think Trump giving him a pardon would be a bad thing, which I don't think is actually
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likely at all, at least not until the possibility of Trump winning in 2020.
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If he won in 2020, then I think there's a good chance he would pardon, but then again,
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he pardoned Joe Arpaio and he just pardoned guys who got convicted of war crimes.
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I don't know anymore.
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It turns out that America doesn't really care that much about war crimes or people who essentially
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create internment camps, who really care politically about Roger Stone.
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It would be a real shitty feeling if you're Roger and you see this news of Trump pardoning
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these guys.
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Roger's like, God damn it, I should have killed three civilians.
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Why didn't I kill anybody?
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I'd be fucking fine.
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Why not me?
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Yeah.
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All I did was get you elected fucking president illegally, committing all these crimes.
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Wait, I shouldn't have said that second part.
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So Alex, like he said already, he has a message from Roger, but he hasn't said the message
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yet.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I've got a message to you from Roger Stone, who's got a gag ball
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in his mouth politically right now and who is facing certain conviction in my view any
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minute now at the hands of a true kangaroo court and the railway that judge Jackson has
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built from the federal courthouse directly into federal prison for Donald John Trump's
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longtime wingman.
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Why are you emphasizing that again?
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Who Roger Stone really is, not his chief political advisor.
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He's that too, but he is Trump's wingman and that's what you get for being this great president's
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wingman.
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He's trying to stress it because of, I think he wants to really play up the idea that they're
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trying to attack Trump's support network personally, as opposed to it being Roger did things that
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are illegal and he's going to be punished for it.
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I mean, that's not a terrible angle there.
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No, it's not, but it's pretty transparent.
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The fact that you were seeing like, why do you keep bringing that up?
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Like I said, he has said that in the past, but it's real pushed on this episode.
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He's really pushing that really hard and I think it is to personalize it.
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Yeah, it's because if you think about him as Trump, this is just Trump's buddy.
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They go fucking hang out on the weekends, they have a good time and they're attacking
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just Trump's buddy.
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He's going to be punished for that.
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Premier rat fucker who's led, who's helped regimes topple and genocides occur and all
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of this shit.
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Not that Roger, the Roger who likes to fuck with his buddy.
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So but he keeps teasing this message and it's very weird to me and I don't know what I think
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about it.
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And so at the bottom of the hour, I've got Roger's message through me to you and I'm
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just going to leave it at that.
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I have to be very, very careful about what I say because they'll try to use it to put
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him in prison longer.
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But I obviously have talked to Roger and I am not going to bow down to these criminals.
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Why would you tease this?
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Why would you say, get to it at the bottom of the hour?
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Why would you do that?
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If you had a message, a desperate message from Roger Stone that he wants you to disseminate
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to your audience, why would you do that?
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It seems like you would be like, listen, we're going to lead the show with this.
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This is really important.
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Roger is a, you know, the jury is, is deliberating as we speak.
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He is a political prisoner.
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You know, you would think that you would get to it.
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Well, it's got to be a big message.
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I suppose in 20 foot tall flaming letters on the planet's vorbe upstream, uh, is God's
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last message to his creation, right?
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Something along those lines.
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I would feel like, um, I, I get the sense that this is teasing for the sake of trying
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to build anticipation, try and get people to tweet about it, get more audience eyes
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on it.
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It's going to be, it's going to be something about money.
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I see a, I get a sense of that because, and, and you know what, what's difficult about
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it is like the behavior of like getting to the news right ahead or teasing it is something
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that Alex could do with something that's real or fake, but I don't, he is such a rangy,
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unpredictable player with this sort of stuff that like a normal rational human.
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I would see that behavior as an indication that this isn't real, but with Alex, I really
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don't know.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Anything's possible.
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He's like a junk falling.
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Yeah.
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But he's going to get to that later coming down the road.
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Uh, but for now he's got to get to big, important news.
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Put that headline back up for folks, Rolling Stone, the witnesses calling it bizarre sacrifice
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parties at Ed bucks, meth mansion, feds probe, Adam Schiff dressed like Egyptian at bizarre
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sacrifice parties at Ed bucks, meth mansion, 14 hours ago.
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See, I didn't even know that that's true pundit and Rolling Stone has an article about it
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as well.
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I didn't even know that.
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I was telling you that he's a devil worshiping pedophile.
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Of course he is.
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Wait.
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Oh, you're not understanding how news works.
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If you knew that and then you called him a demon worshiping pedophile.
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Hooray.
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Right.
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And then you say it first and then be like, Hey, look at, check that out.
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It turns out I was right.
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That's not news.
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Nope.
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First things first, Alex is doing one of his old tricks here.
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He's taking a story that was published in a shitty right wing blog that never gets any
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stories right.
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Like true pundit and pretending it's a story in an outlet that has editors and operates
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by some standards like Rolling Stone.
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This is just a story on true pundit and like most of the shit on that site, it can just
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be ignored.
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But this story is actually really interesting.
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If you read the article, it says that Schiff was dressed dressed in ancient Egyptian garb
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and the FBI is probing him as part of his routine presence at Ed Buck's meth parties.
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Since the story is being reported, you might expect a law enforcement source.
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You might expect someone with the FBI giving a comment.
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You might expect a supporting story out of literally any media, maybe a local news outlet.
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Schiff agreeing that he did it, something.
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You don't get that.
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This entire story is based on one source and it's a good friend of ours.
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Associated hard rice enthusiast Larry Nichols.
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No, come on!
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Do not!
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Yeah.
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Fuck off!
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This article.
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This is not Larry Nichols.
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This is.
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How, how long ago was this?
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This is, the first was in October.
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No shit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All right.
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We're going to have to fucking call this motherfucker.
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This article includes a quote from Larry about, about Adam Schiff, quote, this guy is kinky.
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Oh, we're going to need to, we're going to need to talk to Larry about this.
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But he's, you know, he's old.
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Don't call him now.
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We'll try and get a hold of him.
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Who's reached for comment on that?
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Who's got, who's got Larry Nichols' phone number but me anymore?
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Beyond the sourcing problems here, this article is just horribly written.
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Given that Schiff was said to be dressed like an Egyptian, the article literally says, quote,
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we can make a leap here that party goers were likely worshiping pyramids of meth.
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This is terrible writing.
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Wait, uh, hmm.
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Okay.
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So, so if I understand correctly, if you are dressed in Egyptian garb, going to a party,
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places are, as we all know from our histories at meth parties, clearly it's a pyramid of
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meth.
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You bet.
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Gotcha.
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This is a perfect demonstration of something Alex does a lot.
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One of his associates, often someone like Larry or John Rappaport will go and they'll
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lie to another media outlet that has zero journalistic standards.
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That outlet would publish Alex's friends claims with sensational headlines and no scrutiny.
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Then Alex gets to turn around and report this as if it's solid objective reporting that
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is completely independent from him.
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It's an interconnected web of liars, but it's very interesting to see Larry Nichols getting
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back into the game.
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I haven't seen hide nor hair of him on Alex's show since September 21st, 2017 when he threatened
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to blackmail Congress on air.
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That was a good day, but it would make sense for him to start getting more active now.
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Clearly Alex, and he's not alone in this, is trying to create the narrative that Hillary
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is secretly running in 2020 and if you need someone to smear people in Clinton's orbit,
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Larry is your guy.
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He has got the fake receipts for 30 years back now.
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Totally.
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He's got all the fake receipts.
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Anyway, the point here is that the true pundit story is shit until confirmed by anyone who
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knows what confirming things mean.
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For now, this is just Larry Nichols talking shit.
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Man, that's a fun gig, true pundit, where you get to... Oh, it seems like he was wearing
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an Egyptian outfit, so we can assume it was pyramids of Beth.
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What kind of place gives you the latitude to make that kind of assumption?
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It's gotta be a great job.
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That's a fun gig.
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Yeah.
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That's a fun job.
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Yeah.
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If I were smart, I would go work for them.
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Yeah, of course.
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That's professional wrestling storytelling right there.
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Yeah, but at the same time, nothing they do can make me feel as good as when I'm listening
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to Alex tell a story and be like, let me look into that.
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Ha ha, Larry.
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It's kind of- That's true.
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That moment of revelation is very exciting.
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Yeah.
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Nichols is back.
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How is Nichols back?
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Well, I think that what's old is new again, and I think that as Alex is trying to ramp
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up into this pretending Hillary is running again, what he's gotta do, or what he... I
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don't know if he has to do this, but it makes sense to do it.
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You gotta start going back to what worked last time.
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You ran a campaign against Hillary four years ago, so what did you do back then?
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Well, bullshit that Larry said was really helpful, so start reporting on other outlets
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covering lies, Larry says, and then one of the other things that Alex tries to pretend
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wasn't what he did is Pizzagate stuff, and so what do you know?
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We start to see Pizzagate shit pop back up.
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Some weird ass stuff, man.
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Hillary and her foundation head got caught shipping all those little black kids out of
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Haiti.
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A bunch of them ended up dead.
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Disappeared.
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I mean, that's just like... You never hear a damn word out of Van Jones.
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Van Jones knows full well.
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They got a taste for black meat.
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They know those devil worshipers want that blood.
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They gonna get it.
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They're gonna get the black babies too, and Van Jones ain't gonna say nothing about it
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because he knows where he gets the money from, so he can point at me and say I'm the racist
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because I don't want to kill the black babies, and every other damn baby they can get their
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hands on.
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Remember those Aleister Crowley sex rituals?
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They like the walnut sauce.
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They want the brown babies.
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That's what that is, and they gonna get your babies, and you're gonna like them for it
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because they're liberal.
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There are a whole lot of very legitimate critiques that you can make about the Clintons' work
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in Haiti, and it would be nice if Alex were interested in any of those, but he's not.
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Those of them are difficult to understand, and he likes to keep those sorts of issues
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to a minimum.
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It's just so much easier to yell about dumb conspiracy theories about elites kidnapping
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children to drink their blood.
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Way less work goes into that.
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What Alex is talking about with that Clintons in Haiti case, it was a case involving an
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organization named New Life Children's Refuge, and specifically the group's founder, Laura
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Silsby.
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On January 12th, 2010, there was a gigantic earthquake in Haiti.
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At least 100,000 people died as a result of the quake, and the number is suggested actually
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to be much higher than that.
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Silsby was arrested attempting to cross the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic
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with 33 children, many of them who were not orphans, though they were heading for a makeshift
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orphanage.
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She was arrested along with nine other missionaries she was working with, but charges against
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them all were dropped.
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Only she remained in prison, though when she received a trial, the charges were dropped
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from kidnapping to quote, arranging irregular travel.
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She was found guilty and released, having served her sentence already while awaiting
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trial.
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This story is an offshoot Pizzagate narrative.
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When that whole thing was getting going, it was decided by internet sleuths that this
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is how the Clintons got kids that they would then use to harvest adrenochrome and their
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blood drinking rituals in the non-existent basement of Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
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Where we can assume there were pyramids of Beth.
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Yeah, Alex is quite literally just bringing back up Pizzagate shit.
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And again, that's the same thing with the walnut sauce.
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That was another Pizzagate thing.
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It was something that the internet sleuths decided sounded weird and possessed as emails,
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so they decided it must be code for pedophilia.
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This behavior is what you'd expect from Alex at this point.
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He's trying to run a campaign against Hillary again, like I said, in the last time.
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That involved a lot of Pizzagate shit.
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He doesn't even realize how much of the stuff he thinks has to do with her, like it came
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from Reddit and 4chan bullshit from that whole Pizzagate thing, which is something he claims
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he never covered, but here he is, going on about walnut sauce and the Clintons kidnapping
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kids out of Haiti.
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This is all Pizzagate.
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That's no good.
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We can't go into reruns.
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This is lame.
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This is lame.
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I don't want to watch fucking Parks and Rec all over again, Dan.
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It's time for something new.
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Let's move on to the good place.
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We can't be doing this forever.
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But I think it's very interesting because he doesn't have good minds around him now.
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And not to say that the minds he had around him before were good in a broad sense, but
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they were creative.
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In the last election cycle, he had a brain trust of some real, real fucked up people.
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He was working on all cylinders with Steve Pechenik, Larry Nichols, Roger Stone.
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He had a lot of people who were real sneaky.
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You've got some of the big names in bullshit, lying, and making up conspiracies that really
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stick with you.
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You got to give them some credit for having some conspiracy theories that penetrate into
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the larger consciousness.
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And I don't think he has as good of people around him now, or as competent people around
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him now.
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And so what do you do?
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Well, what worked last time?
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Just sort of revert back as best you can.
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Roger's going to prison.
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He's not going to have him this time.
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He's got to put some money in Roger's commissary account that he can smuggle some notes out
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on some ideas to smear people.
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Go visit him and write it down in crayon about the raptors.
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That'll be great.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that'd be amazing.
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God, I want that to happen.
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I hope he gets 50 years just so 10 years from now he can fuck with Carrie.
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So Alex, again, he teases that Roger has an announcement.
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So I said, I've got a message from Roger Stone to the world.
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Bite me.
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If I would say when he's convicted by that kangaroo jury, maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe God's going to intervene, but pray for Roger and I'll do that.
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The jury could come out at any moment, but I'm going to do that start of the next hour
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now.
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He comes up, so he teases it again and you kind of get a sense of like what could be
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the delay.
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He says that Roger said to make this announcement after a verdict.
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So that could be why you push back.
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But Alex does not wait.
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He doesn't wait until after the verdict because when he comes back, this is about three and
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a half hours into the show.
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He just goes ahead and makes the announcement.
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I have a message for the world from Roger Stone and that message is your basic liberties,
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your basic freedoms and due process is under attack.
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And if Roger Stone can be found guilty on any of the six counts against him by this
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kangaroo court and this Obama appointed tyrant fake judge, then no one in this nation is
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safe.
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So now what you have there is editorializing.
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That isn't Roger's message, but Alex has set it up as Roger's message.
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Roger's message is that this is a kangaroo court.
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It's an Obama stacked jury.
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So now those sorts of messages appear to be coming from Roger.
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Whatever Roger may or may not have told him, that's what Alex is presenting.
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Alex's narratives about the trial are now intermingled with the presentation of Alex's
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message or Roger's message through Alex.
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So Alex wants all of it to be Roger's message, whereas in theory, this is maybe what Roger
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told him.
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So Roger Stone's message is this, he expects to be convicted.
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He said only a miracle can save him now.
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That's his exact words to me last night and this morning.
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And he said to me, Alex, barring a miracle, I appeal to God and I appeal to your listeners
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for prayer and I appeal to the president to pardon me because to do so would be a action
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that would show these corrupt courts that they're not going to get away with persecuting
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people for their free speech or for the crime of getting the president elected.
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If we don't do that, it will embolden their criminal activity.
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The way Alex is delivering this, I don't believe it's an actual message.
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I think it may be some of the things are things Roger told him if he was talking to Roger.
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I'm not entirely sure what I believe about this.
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But if Roger...
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I just know Steve Pacinek was in Korea at the time.
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If Alex did talk to Roger, I would assume he would say, you know, have your audience
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pray for me, you know, I would like it for Trump to pardon me.
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I could see if he did communicate with Roger, that being what he said.
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But all the way that this is being presented, it lends itself to broadening what Roger's
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message was.
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And that's really bad.
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Because the stuff that Alex is talking about is about his case.
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That last clip, not the one we just played, but the one before it about this being Obama
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stacked jury kangaroo court, that is discussing the case.
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That breaks Roger's gag order.
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So if Roger said to Alex, I want your audience to pray for me, I appeal for Trump to pardon
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me, that might not be considered discussing the case.
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But the way Alex is talking about this and the editorializing it takes it into a place
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where he could fuck Roger over.
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That's why I kind of feel like Roger wouldn't do this.
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Because he would know that Alex would do this.
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Absolutely.
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I don't know what's going on.
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You don't know if Alex, because Alex is going to read your message, he's reading it off
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of his hand.
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Like Roger says, hi everybody, thanks mom, please pray for me.
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But I mean, God, can you imagine praying for Roger Stone?
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Oh, anyways, also burned the court down immediately following the verdict.
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I don't know.
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I don't know why he wrote that one.
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Crazy.
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That's wild anyways.
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It's an unreliable narrator giving us this message.
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I don't know what I believe.
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I'm suspicious, let's say.
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So here's the last clip from the 14th and it's Alex discussing how there's a plan if
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Roger is convicted.
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Now there is a press release and an article on newswars.com and infowars.com that has
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the number to the White House on it.
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And even when he is convicted by this jury, it is vital that everyone share the information
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graphic posted at infowars.com and newswars.com with everyone you know on Twitter, Facebook,
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YouTube by hand, you name it, and that everyone who can in the area of Virginia or Maryland
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or West Virginia or all over the country travel to DC any time for the week after this conviction
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and encircle the White House with bullhorns demanding President Trump take action.
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So you see, he's trying to control the narrative of Roger's freedom or whatever, and he's using
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it to funnel it into advertising for Infowars.
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Like A, we have this press release, everybody share it.
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We have a specific infographic that obviously is going to have infowars.com on it.
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It's going to be a great...
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We have Infowars branded bullhorns.
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It's going to be a promotional blitz.
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I do see a little bit of that, but whatever.
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It's not totally in the realm of over the top Alex trying to profit off of Roger's,
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but it is controlling the space.
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Right, right, right.
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What I hear is his heart's not in it.
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He knows Roger's too guilty, and at the same time, he's like, we got to try this whole
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they're railroading him narrative, but I don't think anybody's really going to buy that.
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It's a tough sell.
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Part of what people liked about Roger Stone is how obviously criminal he was.
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That's part of his appeal.
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Yeah, he even talks about that, how he plays up his villainous aspects because they're
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fun.
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Everybody's like, well, yeah, I mean, he should probably go to jail.
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We just don't want him to go now, I guess.
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It's a hard case to make that it's like, wow, yeah, should have been in prison long ago.
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Yeah, he probably did.
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Yeah, all right.
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All right, you got him.
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Can you imagine just being a regular person praying for Roger's, Lord, I just, we thank
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you for this meal and I hope Roger Stone's okay.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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This sneaky top hat wearing villain from a old movie.
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Yeah, it seems weird.
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So we jump in on the 25th and I'm sorry, the 15th and he, the sound quality in this is
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atrocious.
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It is Friday, November 15th, 2019 I am your host Alex Jones and as I predicted for weeks
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and as I definitively said yesterday, Roger Stone would be found guilty on all counts.
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He faces 50 years, ladies and gentlemen, for thought crime.
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Maybe the sound isn't obviously different yet, but like this first like five minutes
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or so of his show on the 15th is noticeably different.
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And so, yeah, I mean that's, you know, you're getting it, he's gone to prison for 50 years.
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Got to make it as severe as possible.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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Great.
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For thought crimes.
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Thought crimes.
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The thoughts that he had were crimes.
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That's true.
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He thought about committing crimes and then he committed them.
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Yeah.
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He did them.
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Those are thought crimes.
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Yeah, I guess.
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Yeah.
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So Alex now pretends that Roger is going to be on the show later.
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Ladies and gentlemen, he was completely and totally well-roaded.
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There is a good shot.
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If they don't take him into custody, the hearing is still ongoing right now that he will be
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on the broadcast today.
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They have let him know that if he does speak out against it, the judge will throw the book
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at him even harder.
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The title of that clip is Alex pretends Roger is going to be on later.
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Yeah, fucking right.
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Yeah.
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It's absurd to imagine.
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At best, he's going to call in after the sentencing until he gets a number, he is not talking
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to Alex at all.
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No.
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Because that number goes up by a day every minute he talks to Alex.
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It's conceivable.
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So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he is right about the jurors' situation.
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But again, it's important because he did that in order to have a means, a way in to attack
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the trial whenever Roger is inevitably found guilty.
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There has never been a railroading like this.
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And remember, we exposed that there was a high-level Obama official.
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We got the name right.
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And a Mueller probe, when we exposed it, they closed her out for our arrest.
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Jesus Christ.
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But the judge removed her off of the...
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He's trying to fix the Hissick.
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Jury.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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That's the worst.
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That's the worst.
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It's real weird.
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That's bad.
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Yeah.
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And then Alex is like, we got the name right.
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You didn't get the name right.
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No.
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You did terrible.
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You got the name wrong twice.
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Yeah, impressively wrong.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So the new point now is that if Roger goes to prison, he's going to be murdered in prison
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like Epstein.
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Sure.
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That is the new angle.
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And Alex expresses that here.
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This is the tyranny and this is a warm up for President Trump and President Trump hasn't
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gotten Assange out of jail.
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He could.
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When he told Assange to release the WikiLeaks, that's a big black mark on the president.
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And if he doesn't, pardon Roger Stone.
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Well then, I mean, I got to tell you, no matter how many good things Trump does doing this
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to Assange and letting Stone hang out to dry, if he does this, I just don't know what I'm
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going to do.
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I need to call the White House right now, 202-456-1414, and tell President Trump to
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pardon him.
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Don't let them get their hands on him.
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They'll put him in solitary confinement.
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God knows what they'll do to his food.
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These people mean business and they need to kill him.
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They mean to kill him.
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They mean to kill him.
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We hear there, like a first indication of Alex being like, if he doesn't pardon Stone,
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he's going to die.
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I don't know.
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He's going to be put in solitary confinement.
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Who cares?
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I mean, not who cares.
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If they put him in solitary confinement, I'm against that.
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But when I say who cares, I mean, who cares about that stuff because that's secondary
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to me.
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Then Alex's point that if Trump doesn't pardon him, I don't know what I'm going to do.
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I don't care about all the good stuff he's doing.
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If he's leaving Assange and Roger Stone out to dry like this, I can't because I think
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that what Alex is starting to realize is that he will also be left out to dry along with
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literally everyone, you stupid fucking morons.
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We told you this was going to fucking happen.
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Alex is starting to... Every time.
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He's starting to realize that there is no honor among thieves.
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No.
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He's starting to realize that Trump does not give a fuck about these people and that there
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is no protection for him.
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Man.
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He will be tossed aside as easily as these other people are.
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These guys have never read a fucking book.
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That's like all the Lord of the Rings series is about.
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Alex, now you're saying that Roger is not only facing 50 years in prison, he's facing
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maybe 100.
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I'm making a prediction here.
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I've actually looked at the seven charges and the judge, I believe, can twist it.
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She may give him more than 50 because these monsters want you to know they'll put you
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in prison if you stand up for America.
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He is a modern thought criminal who has done nothing.
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Come on.
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President Trump told Julian Assange, release the WikiLeaks.
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He did.
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And I'm not an occult.
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I like Trump way more than Hillary and I think he's done a lot of good things, but I got
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to tell you, I don't know what I'm going to do if Trump doesn't pardon Stone, his 40 plus
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year wingman.
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These guys have dated the same women all nine yards and they fixed the hissing.
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If Trump follows his pension for hanging people out to dry, they got him elected.
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I don't know what I'm going to do.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what I'm going to do, but I think he's facing a moment of like, I can't.
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This is, this is the good chance.
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This is how I can get out of this.
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This is how everything can change.
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I can, I can retain all of my narratives about Trump, about how he was doing all these good
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things.
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I can retain, he can retain everything.
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He doesn't have to turn on Trump.
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He doesn't even, he doesn't really even have to.
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He can just say like, yeah, you know what?
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Everything that we saw that was good in him was good.
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We were right to do that.
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Trump is just, you know, he's not strong enough to stand up to the swamp.
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The deep state is too powerful.
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He can, he can re he can retcon a whole bunch of stuff through this and it's something that
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the audience will probably see as acceptable.
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He won't stand up for Julian Assange and Roger Stone.
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I realize that there is a real problem with this.
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I can, I can stop supporting him or I can pivot whatever this is.
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It's a perfect opportunity for him.
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I think he sees it.
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He sees the light, the window.
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Well, I mean, just the, the very obvious verbal pattern he has of saying, I'm not trying to
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brag.
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And then he brags.
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If he's saying, I'm not saying I'm in a cult and then he changes it, you're like, oh man,
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your words get it.
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I don't know if you get it in your head, but your subconscious is like, oh shit, I'm in
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a, I was in a cult.
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Fuck.
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Fuck.
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I got the, it's the Nigerian email scam all over again.
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Yup.
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It is.
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Yup.
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So Roger did nothing wrong.
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Stone hadn't done a damn thing except get Trump elected.
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And these monsters are going to use this as the beta test with their jurisdictions to
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go after everybody and try to put them in prison where I live in Travis County, trying
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to put Rick Perry in jail for no reason, but Tom delay in jail until he got it out on appeal.
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It's so funny to remember that Alex's big documentary end game literally ends with a
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shot of Alex bullhorning Rick Perry's house late at night, accusing him of being a globalist
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stew.
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And all they did was try and get him arrested for something they made up.
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His main documentary that he says proves all of his claims leaves the viewer with a shot
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of him attacking Rick Perry.
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But now the Perry is in with Trump users to good upstanding American and wants what's
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best for the country.
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Yeah.
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It's so spineless globalist.
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Now he's not.
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It's all good.
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As for the case that Alex is talking about, this is what we talked about on a recent 2013
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episode where Rick Perry was trying to force a Democrat DA out of office by defunding her
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office if she refused to resign, which is not cool.
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He was indicted for that, but the charges were dropped after he appealed when he was
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out of office himself.
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That's that.
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That's the case that Alex is talking about.
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That's fucking crazy.
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I believe that was under the fine.
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Just go away law.
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Sure.
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So, um, that's nonsense.
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Um, whatever, like, uh, trying to use those as examples of like, it's just like this,
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like, no.
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Yeah.
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And wait, you shouldn't like Rick Perry.
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Why do you like it now?
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Yeah.
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It changes on a daily due process should be abandoned in this country.
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Dan, Steve, you were a genius.
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Roger Stone is not getting that due process and I don't know why I'm mad, but I'm mad
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about both.
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So Alex, like I said, I think he's starting to realize that Trump is a disloyal bad actor.
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These people are so stupid and president Trump has not stood up to the racketeering and the
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attack on the press.
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The independent press is not stood up to the organized racketeering of big tech coming
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after even members of Congress and blocking them.
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And I know it feels great to say, Oh, Trump's wonderful.
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And you know, everything they do against him doesn't stick because it's made up great.
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What about us?
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What about the president protecting the American people?
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Are they going to come and dive me, have another rigged jury, and then Trump just sits there
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and plays golf and talks about how he's a stable genius.
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You remember what happened that night?
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We ought to find the clip 2 a.m. when Trump came out and Hillary wouldn't even concede.
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She was drunk, collapsed.
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I looked at your live on air and I said, you get ready.
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They're coming after us.
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He goes, we'll have Trump on the president.
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I said, buddy, you better get ready.
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They're going to put us in prison or kill us on TV.
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I told him the next day I talked to that parking lot, I got him by the arm and I said, buddy,
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guard yourself for true.
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Stay with us.
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We're an attack formation.
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Guard yourself for true, another Dune thing.
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I don't know what that music is, but they play it a bunch during this episode and all
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I can make out from the lyrics is you keep coming back for more, which also seems almost
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thematic.
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I don't know.
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It's weird.
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I don't know what's going on.
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The people that work for him still don't know how to run his soundboard.
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Still.
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Still.
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I don't know.
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It almost, no.
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They play it like six times.
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He's choosing the music.
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Who's clearly fucking with him from time to time.
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I seen plenty of evidence of them playing a very, uh, on the nose.
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They played that Depeche mode song.
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Like you had something to hide while he was introducing the, that's what I was listening
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to the Roger announcement.
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I'm sitting there going like, do you know?
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Yeah, there are, it seems like there's weird, but something, how much of that is over analysis.
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I don't know.
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But this song is glaring.
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Like it plays over and over again, in and out of breaks to the point where it's very
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noticeable.
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Like I have not, I don't think I've ever heard an episode where he's played something more
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than twice.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes he's like, I want to hear that again.
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You know, like that, that'll happen every now and again.
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But that seems so on the nose, but I could also totally see one of those people like
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accidentally deleting the Spotify playlist and then they just play it over.
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Like that's how stupid and incompetent these guys are so far.
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Definitely.
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That's the conclusion, but it's notable in the fact that it keeps happening.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex is mad because Trump is tweeting, but he doesn't want tweets.
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Roger Stone got Trump elected.
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The listeners of the show got Trump elected.
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Matt Drudge got Trump elected.
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The truth got Trump elected and I love Trump.
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You guys were doing great.
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I'm here to tell you, like I said on yesterday show, I said, we don't need tweets from president
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Trump about this.
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We need action.
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We don't need a couple tweets from president Trump saying this is a miscarriage of justice
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and then, and then nothing we need action action now.
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So yeah, I mean he's a, he's sick of the, uh, the bullshit that Trump's feeding him
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and he's realizing I'm not safe.
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No one's none of our allies in this, uh, propaganda game that we've been running for the explicit
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purpose of defending Trump.
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None of us matter.
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Yeah.
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None of us.
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Like, Hey, I've spent the last three, four years of my fucking life going out of my way
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to carry water for this fucking asshole, abandoning everything that I knew except white supremacy.
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I was allowing Mike Cernovich on my show.
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You understand purpose.
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It's crazy.
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And they're like, now there isn't anything that you get for it.
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You will be, you will be sacrificed if it is necessary.
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I don't know what it's like to have a kid, but that moment I imagine of you having told
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this child over and over and over again, the same thing and them never learning.
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And then eventually them coming up to you and being like, you know, I realized that
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this guy really doesn't like me and isn't paying attention to me and thinking that that's
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something that they're coming to on their own when you're like, I've been screaming
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that at you for four years.
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You idiot.
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So at this point, Roger actually hasn't been convicted yet, but Alex is acting as if he
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has.
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Right.
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This is still like at the jury deliberation, but it's like, ah, we all kind of know he
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did it, which is interesting because if I hadn't told you that you would have thought
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that he got convicted before the show.
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Oh, for sure.
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But yeah, he didn't.
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Oh, okay.
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So Alex talks now about the last time that he talked to Trump, need to pardon him.
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You pardoned our pile.
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We got that to you.
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Trump didn't even know about it.
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We got it to him.
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You heard Ohio come on and say, no, Roger Stone, Alex Jones got to Trump.
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Yeah.
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Last time I got to talk to Trump was like a year and a half ago.
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And I'm like, listen, you know, they're putting the sheriff in prison.
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What?
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I didn't hear that.
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What do you mean?
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He had a trial?
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No, no.
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The judge is doing it.
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Well, judge can't do that.
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Yes, Mr. President.
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We need you to pardon him.
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They're coming after him because he released documents showing you were being spied on.
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They got from the DEA.
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We released the original NSA documents.
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Wait, wait.
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How do you know about that?
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How do I know about it?
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I was telling you about it a year ago.
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Well, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I'm like, listen, I don't need you to tell me how great I am.
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They take you out.
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They're going to get me next.
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I need you to go after them.
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Couple things about that last clip.
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One, if that that retelling of events is true, which I'm almost certain it's not, then if
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I were Trump, I wouldn't talk to Alex again either.
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That retelling is clearly an instance of Alex lying to the president in order to get a racist
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authoritarian pardon for crimes he was absolutely guilty of.
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Two, the documents Alex had were from Dennis Montgomery.
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We did an entire episode about that bullshit titled The Dennis Montgomery Investigation.
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You can go and listen to that if you want to understand it fully.
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None of these documents were real.
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None of them proved Trump was being spied on, and none of them were from the DEA.
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Why would the Drug Enforcement Agency be involved in any of this?
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That should be a good dead giveaway that Alex is just kind of making shit up.
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Three, the reason that Arpaio was going to prison was contempt of court.
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That is true, but that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter.
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Arpaio had been the subject of a very thorough investigation, and it was found that his police
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department in Maricopa County operated in ways that violated citizens' rights.
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His department had a flagrant pattern of racial profiling that, quote, reached the highest
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levels of the agency, and it was so severe that the department was stripped of its ability
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to legally identify and detain suspected undocumented immigrants.
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That's how bad their patterns were.
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No.
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Again, I'm against shorter prison sentences.
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Arpaio is the only person that I can think of right off the top of my head that I want
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to rot in jail for the rest of his life.
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He should go to The Hague.
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He should rot in jail for the rest of his life.
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Due to many lawsuits involving his inhuman treatment of detainees, the court told Arpaio
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that changes had to be made to his department.
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Arpaio refused to do what the court said he had to do.
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He was given many warnings.
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Then in January 2015, years after he had every reason to understand that the way he did business
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violated civil rights, he was held in contempt of court.
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The case went on until July 2017, at which point he was found guilty of criminal contempt,
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but that charge is not just some minor charge.
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That guilty charge is the front-facing mask that's covering up years of racist and abusive
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police practices that Arpaio refused to change.
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I know it goes without saying, but the contempt of court charge means nothing to Alex.
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The reason Arpaio got a pardon from Trump, the reason that Alex fought so hard to protect
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him, was the racist, abusive policing that characterized his career.
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When they defend Arpaio, that's what they're defending.
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Not some kind of bullshit, a judge can't send you to jail nonsense.
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You don't need a jury to hold someone in contempt of court, because a jury already decided the
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case that contempt is based on.
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Alex knows this.
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He just doesn't care, because he needs to make his white identity beliefs look like
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a defensive rule of law in order to make it marketable to a larger audience.
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It's all that's going on here.
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Fuck this.
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Fuck this nonsense.
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Another bad example for him to tie to Roger.
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So now, we get to the point where Alex announces Roger has been convicted.
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I was sitting here at about 10 a.m. an hour before we went live, and I had my baseball
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cap sitting next to me, and it says 1776 on it.
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Yes, it's an M4 store, nice designer hat, made in 1776.
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1776 is on the front, it's a brand I came out with about seven years ago.
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Wow.
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Little hat I designed.
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The Revolutionary War.
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I used to wear it on air, I just wear it when I'm out, and I thought, when they convict
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Stone today, probably when I'm on air, I'm gonna wear that 1776 hat, and right before
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I went live, I said, hey, I left it in my bathroom, you'll get my 1776 hat, and right
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as they walked in and handed it to me, they go, Roger Stone convicted.
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That's not some psychic event.
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That's like watching somebody in a bullfight get run over by the bull, and the bull's horn
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go right through the matador's heart and blood spray everywhere.
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That dude's gonna die.
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So that seems like a plug for his hats.
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That was more hat centric than Roger Stone news centric.
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Yeah.
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That was more about the hat, and the long journey it took to get to the hat.
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It took us a while to get there.
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Yeah.
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And see, I'm not psychic, I mean, he was obviously gonna get fucked.
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Right.
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I think we all knew that.
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Yeah.
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But not the getting fucked.
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No.
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Being found guilty.
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Yes.
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The thing that I think is going on here is that Alex recognizes that almost everybody
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who hears the news, Roger Stone has been found guilty, is immediately gonna go to Infowars.
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Yeah.
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Immediately, they're gonna be like, Alex is gonna freak out, this is gonna be amazing.
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Like I heard from people who listen to our show, it's like, I've never listened to his
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show live, I had to go immediately to watch this, I think he probably got a gigantic boost
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in audience from this.
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I wouldn't be surprised, yeah.
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And so why not use that as an opportunity to be like, so these great hats, I decided
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I was gonna wear this when Roger was found guilty in honor of the Revolutionary War.
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They're great hats, well made, Zellum.
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1999, 1776, you get a discount.
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Yep.
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Alex now has a situation where all eyes are on his show, he's probably at least somewhat
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aware of that.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to tell how much exactly.
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He considered self-immolating, he knew that enough people were watching that it could
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have really done some good.
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I don't think that's the case.
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Okay.
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He's already said that Roger might be on, but he knows that that's not true.
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No chance.
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But he does have some guests.
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Barnes?
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Matt Paul Watson coming on to talk about big victories in Europe, huge awakenings against
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the globalist, very exciting things.
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He just traveled to the big national sovereignty day of Poland, which has been called white
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supremacy.
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Nations even existing is evil now.
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We're gonna get to that next segment, but I wanted him to respond to this and I'll open
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the phones up at the start of the next hour.
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Then Larry Nichols, who is the consummate Clinton insider.
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He's got big Intel on Adam Schiff and Ed Buck and the satanic rituals that went on there.
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Holy shit.
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Larry Nichols is back.
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Larry Nichols is on the show.
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Larry Nichols is back.
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He's had cancer for 45 years now.
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He has been dying.
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Nah, Jordan.
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For 45 years.
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Jordan, I got to tell you, the Clayton's are evil.
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I get that they're evil, but I think you're hamming up this whole dying thing.
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I don't know what the case is with that.
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I don't want to sit here and mock what may or may not be legitimate illness.
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I don't know what the deal is with that.
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I think there's so many other things you can talk about with Larry that that's so far past
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what I'm even interested in, but it is interesting.
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He's back.
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Just the day before on the show, he started reporting on bullshit True Pundit articles
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that are based on Larry's reportage, so it makes sense.
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Let's get Larry back in here.
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Does Larry reach out or did somebody from True Pundit where they're like, I got some
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bullshit.
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I got to check with Larry.
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Is Larry like sending out texts from time to time?
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I know exactly how this works, and we'll get to it once Larry comes up, but it's much less
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confusing than you might think.
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So Alex, like I said, I get the sense that Alex recognizes that there's more people listening
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because instead of covering Roger's shit in detail, here's what he does.
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Going into 2020, there's so much happening.
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The only way we're here is your word of mouth getting around the sensors, which is amazing,
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and buying products.
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So I was going to, before Paul ever came on, talk about DNA Force Plus.
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It's back in stock with the CoQ10 and the PQQ and more, and so I pulled a bunch of research
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on it.
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I was going to do a whole segment on it.
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It's our flagship product that I never really talk about properly, and now this all happens,
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so I'm not going to have time to get to it now, but here's the folder of research of
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just this morning that I printed off, Mainline Science, Nobel Prizes, about CoQ10 and PQQ.
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Notice again, he's using the trope of the folder full of proof.
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Got the folder, I got a binder full of women, that's for sure.
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This is a long clip, but I wanted to play this just so you can hear the mundane banality
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of it.
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This is the same segment of his show when he announced Roger got found guilty.
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It regrows mitochondria in the brain cells that nothing else can do until you're damaged
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brain cells.
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50% of people have massive damage in the mitochondria in the brain cells.
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I mean, Alzheimer's, everything, they will not tell you about this though, and it's all
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here.
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So 50% off, it's the one thing everybody should give themselves.
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Anybody above 40 should be on it, but young people should take it as well because it has
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the PQQ, the CoQ10, and then it's got all of the other things known as the fountain
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of youth by the Japanese, the reishi mushroom, the stragalus root, the other...
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Cramming a lot of stuff in there, huh?
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Systems that all work together in synergy.
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And we get little bitty bottles of PQQ or CoQ10 for $40, $50, $60 that aren't even as
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strong or aren't from an organic source like these are.
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Think about that.
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I'm thinking similar formulas are sold for $300, $400 at medical clinics, not as prescription
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by the doctors.
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So is he going to jail then or?
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Because people, they want to mark these up four, five, six, seven times.
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How long does a jury deliberate for?
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People aren't going to buy that at a Whole Foods, but if a doctor does it, they'll get
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it from them because the stuff does cost so much.
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Do you have a statement?
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If you're dealing with $50, $60 a product in something, well, you got to sell it for
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$200, $300 for all your marketing and your legal and your bills and your development
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and manufacturing.
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I signed a big two year contract on this to get even really paying, we're still going
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50 bucks a bottle.
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We're paying 30 something bucks a bottle.
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And so you can get it for 70 something dollars discounted right now.
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Nobody gives you this product at this quality for that price.
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74 98 right now it's our most expensive product.
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And it's absolutely amazing.
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I'd take one pill every night when you go to bed is the best way to do it.
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And if you're really older and got issues, take a lot of it and see what happens.
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See what happens.
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It's documented to create new mitochondria makes telomeres last longer, doesn't grow
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and makes them last longer half full half empty.
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It's the same thing.
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No, the carburetor makes the gas go longer.
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It doesn't make the gas tank bigger.
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It just makes the gas go further, but it's the same thing.
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So DNA force plus get it today and funding info or a total three 60 win.
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This is insane.
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Like that was a long clip.
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Yeah, that was long.
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Three minutes of his show.
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He dedicated to talking about this DNA force in a infomercial, uh, way, uh, in the time
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when he would be most likely to have the most eyes on his show.
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If I were looking at this cynically, I would say that's an intentional decision now.
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He just got the news that Rogers going to prison, you got found guilty.
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I mean, we say going to prison and I understand that he still has a chance of an appeal and
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you know, the process isn't finished and all that.
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I think we're speaking a little bit presumptuously, but all signs appear that he's probably going
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to prison.
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Yeah.
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Um, and Alex's first response is to talk about this great hat.
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He decided to wear whatever Roger.
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It's a really good hat.
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He does a three minute infomercial for DNA force.
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Really good force.
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It's fucking weird.
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And he also, he's got a tie in with Disney plus it's a whole cool thing, but we just,
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he's not going to announce that just yet.
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Strategically.
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It seems like, Hey, we have the audience that we are unable to capture in any other way.
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Yeah.
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Let's see if we can move some of this stuff.
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Somebody's in his ear with like a, Hey, we're at twice the number of normal listeners.
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Plug.
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Plug.
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Get it.
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Yeah.
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It seems like that.
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Yeah.
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Um, so now he gets Paul Joseph Watson in who you mentioned, uh, went to that, uh, independence
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March in Poland.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Which we have, uh, talked about in the context of Stefan Molyneux, I believe.
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Okay.
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But it's interesting because the, the misconception, I suppose, around that, and granted, I haven't
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looked into the dynamics of this year's March, but as it related to Stefan, he was going
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to whitewash that because the year prior there had been a bunch of people with Nazi signs
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and what have you, um, and that was outlawed.
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So he went to the sanitized version in order to create the appearance that all the reporting
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about the years prior, the year priors, uh, March was all bullshit and the left being
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out of control.
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I don't know what this year's was.
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I don't know what Paul's doing there.
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If he wants to just go to a Polish independence day parade, I don't care.
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But I do see it as signaling, you know, I, I, because of Stefan going and making a big
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deal of endorsing white nationalism after going to Poland, it has become a bit of a
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thing in this community.
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So I see that as kind of a tip of the hat.
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I, there's no way that you could, and I'm not saying that Paul, I'm not saying that
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nobody could want to just go to the Polish national independence day, March, that's it.
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Yeah, no, it's very cool.
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It's, I've never even been to Poland.
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I'd love to see all of those things.
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And anytime you're at a national parade, that's very cool.
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But Paul Joseph Watson does not just go to the Polish, he lives in England.
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He does not just go to the fucking parade.
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I agree with you, but I also slightly disagree.
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I don't, I don't know.
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I would say going, not a big deal talking about it and being like, Hey, everybody says
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it's a racist parade.
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That's kind of like, okay, you're doing that on purpose.
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That part's a hundred percent on purpose.
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I don't know.
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I don't really care though.
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And again, I should stress, I've not kept up a ton.
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Like I don't know exactly what's going on now, what the dynamics are.
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So I'm probably not in the best place to speak about it.
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But Paul is on and he does not seem very optimistic about Rogers prospects.
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Will we see the part and will we see Trump actually follow through on something that
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he said, this is going to antagonize the base if he doesn't, but you know, he's let us down
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before.
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Hopefully you can step up to the plate now.
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Well, there's also this whole cult out there saying we shouldn't criticize Trump and demand
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what he said he would do.
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You are in that cult.
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We're undermining Trump.
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No, we're not.
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We got Trump elected, dammit.
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And I'm not going to sit here and see my innocent friends sent to a damn prison by these criminals.
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I mean, I'm getting pissed, man.
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I want him part now.
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He didn't do anything.
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That song is back.
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Man.
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Paul does not seem like he has any faith that Trump is going to do anything and Alex is
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furious.
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Now, man, you guys, Paul didn't get duped.
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Paul had to know.
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Yeah.
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Paul had to know that.
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I think Paul knows that he, I think Paul knows that Alex would abandon him too.
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I think, I think Paul's the only one here who's like, I, I know that I know what the
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score is.
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I'm choosing from a place where I know what I'm doing.
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He's tried to protect his brand a little bit, you know, like he's done videos that have
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come out where he talks about like, I'm not into conspiracy theories, you know, like he's
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tried to present himself as being above this stuff and to an extent, like he's been far
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more willing to criticize Trump than Alex in the past.
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He's had a, he's still on Facebook and Twitter or whatever.
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He has a, a little bit more of a, like a position to say like, come on Alex, then, then anybody
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else around.
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But I still think it's weird to say he didn't get duped because he probably did somewhat,
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but just not nearly as bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, anybody who voted for Trump got duped unless they're a billionaire.
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He kept solid.
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Well, he can't vote.
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He's in, he's in London.
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I just mean like on a general basis.
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I'm not saying that he, yeah, I would look at it as somebody who diversified their portfolio
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as opposed to someone who was all in on one stock.
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That's fair.
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I think he put a little bit of like some of his stakes elsewhere.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's a good way of putting it.
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And because he's so singularly focused on culture, war, nonsense, it doesn't matter
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too much about Trump for him.
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Right.
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Because all of the like insanity of the left and all that, it, it, it still plays even
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if he turns on Trump.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Like abortion and shit.
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Well, sure.
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Yeah.
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Or even far more, uh, uh, uh, uh, artificial issues.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Someone yelling on a campus.
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The war on Christmas begins earlier every year.
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Yeah.
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So, um, Alex has seen some, uh, stuff during the breaks apparently of people on like MSNBC
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making jokes about how, uh, Roger has a tattoo of Nixon.
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So Nixon's finally going to prison.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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Look, that's on Roger.
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That's on Roger.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex is Yuri.
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No, you have to take those.
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You have 1776 in information warfare and getting aggressive before things really commence in
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physical 1776.
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Paul Watson brought it up from summit.news.
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Here it is.
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Gateway punnet.com.
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Here's the video.
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Set up this impeachment inquiry.
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As we look live inside the hearing, unless Chris Wallace has any more tattoo news.
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Let me just say somebody sent me a picture of, if you Google it, you'll be able to see
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it.
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As, as judge star said, it's a very good likeness of Richard Nixon that is there right in the
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center of rod of Roger stones.
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We'll try to get that.
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Okay.
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So in any case, moving forward, but it is not, I'm not a crook.
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It's not that one.
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No.
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No.
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Raised fingers like this.
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Ooh.
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He is mad.
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Yeah.
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You're mad.
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Look, Hey, you're one of your best friends is going to jail.
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I get not wanting other people to laugh at it.
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Yeah.
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It's on him.
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Yeah.
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Your only real leg to stand on is I'm mad.
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They're making fun of him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and that does, that's not a great political stance anyway.
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Um, so on our, on the last episode of Alex's show, the November 14th, he did that real
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muddy reading of a Rogers message that he wanted him to deliver.
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Yeah.
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So now the verdict has happened.
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Alex gets a text allegedly from Rogers lawyer, and this is one of the more ironic clips that
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I've ever heard.
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Let me just show people the type of stuff I've got.
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I'm going to cover up the phone number and the name on this, but this is the type of
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stuff that I get.
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Oh, I'm just not going to even show it on here.
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Your reporting almost got Roger taken into custody immediately upon the verdicts.
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The government cited you and argued for immediate imprisonment.
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Please be cautious about your comments concerning private communications.
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This, I think, yeah, this is one of the lawyers, not a, not a member of the press.
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Think about this.
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They intimidate everybody.
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Say don't name the whistleblower.
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Don't say when they're putting Obama officials on the jury whose husband works in the Mueller
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probe.
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Of course you're not supposed to do that.
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That's not jury tampering.
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That's the, the press has a right to go.
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This is outrageous.
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Look at this.
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What, what's going on here is that the way that Alex behaved on the November 14th show
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could be argued to indicate that Roger had broken his gag order through Alex.
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So that is what the prosecution was saying in terms of holding him right after the verdict,
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which the judge didn't decide to go along with, but did continue his gag order until
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sentencing, which makes sense.
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And what I find amazing about that is that this lawyer is contacting Alex, apparently
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who knows if he's making this up.
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I don't know if he's making it up because the framing, the phrasing of it is so like
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what someone would say, but the guy is telling him, be careful about what you say about private
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communications.
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And then Alex is repeating this private communication.
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Yeah.
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This is crazy.
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Now I think I buy it just because of that line actually, just because the line is not,
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Hey, shut the fuck up or you got to be quiet about this.
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There's too many powerful people looking.
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It doesn't work well enough for what Alex's narrative is.
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Please, please don't reveal too much information.
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Yeah.
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Man, what a fucking idiot.
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Yup.
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And the fun thing about that though, is that this is him not being able to understand in
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real time.
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Like that's really interesting.
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If that is genuine, then he's even turning a genuine ostensible allies words into the
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conspiracy theory reality, as opposed to Roger Stone's lawyer being like, Hey, be nice to
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your friend.
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You don't want him to go to jail right away.
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You know, he's turning that into a conspiracy theory.
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Yeah.
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So at this point, Paul is offended that Roger is going to get 50 years in prison for this.
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And then Alex starts yelling.
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The other thing I'm reading, Alex, is that normally people would get about six months
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prison time for this, but Roger Stone faces up to 50 years, which is basically a death
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sentence.
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Stay there.
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Paul Joseph Washington just came back from Europe where the awakening is accelerating.
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And I predict this attempt to intimidate the American people will backfire.
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We'll see what this country's made of.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So the most serious charge that Roger was convicted of is witness tampering, which is
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the result of him trying to threaten and intimidate Randy Kretiko into pleading the fifth.
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Generally speaking, people don't tamper with witnesses unless they know they're guilty
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and looking for a way to subvert justice.
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So I think it's appropriate for courts to take it pretty seriously.
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I tell whenever I tamper with witnesses, I'm like, tell them I am guilty.
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That'll trick them.
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It is true that sometimes people only get six months in prison for witness tampering.
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That's fair.
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A lot of it has to do with the context of the underlying crime.
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For instance, Ted Klout was a GOP member of the South Dakota House of Representatives.
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In 2007, he was arrested for sexually abusing his foster daughters, among other charges.
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He ended up getting a pretty steep sentence, but in addition, he got 10 years added for
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attempting to tamper with witness testimony.
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That's a super serious offense.
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So tampering with witnesses in that case is a huge deal.
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In contrast, there was a case in 2015 where a husband and wife got a six-month sentence
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for witness tampering, but it was surrounding a drug arrest.
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Whereas the tampering was still serious and needs a consequence, it was not nearly as
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serious as a former state representative abusing foster children.
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So the court deals with the witness tampering on a sliding scale.
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Right, right, right.
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Hey, don't say I had weed.
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Six months.
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Hey, don't say I'd go to fucking hell.
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I'll see you there.
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Roger's case falls on the more serious side, seeing he was trying to subvert a federal
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investigation.
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Alex can make all the arguments he wants about how Roger did nothing wrong and all that,
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but if that really were the case, I don't think he would be trying so hard to get Credico
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to stay silent.
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Roger did that for a reason, and the only plausible explanation that comes to mind is
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that he felt that Randy Credico talking would be bad for him.
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Yeah.
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So, I don't know.
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The six-month thing, yeah, I mean, it's technically fair, but that is also just, it's intentionally
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obtuse about what, the way these charges are added, so whatever.
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And that's the most serious one.
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That's the one that carries a possibility of 20 years, as I understand, but again, he's
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not going to get all that time.
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It's nonsense.
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It's a, you know, it's cliche to point this out, but man, you can fucking steal an election
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and you're only going to wind up getting a few years in America?
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Jesus.
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Stealing an election is such a vague term.
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There's a lot of, you know, whatever.
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Anyway, they go to break there, Alex screaming freedom or death or whatever.
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They come back from break and Alex is on the phone, so Paul Joseph Watson tries to cover
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and come in, you know, and do some stuff, but then Alex jumps in and tries to reset
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while Paul is trying to reset himself.
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It's very strange.
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He just jumps in and he's like, shut the fuck up, Paul.
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I got something to say.
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Not really.
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Okay.
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He's trying to reset so he could throw it to Paul, even though Paul is already talking.
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These guys are wild.
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This is very strange.
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We are live and we're talking about what happened in Poland while Alex Jones makes a very important
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phone call.
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Going to get back into that breaking Roger Stone news here in a second.
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That's right.
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That's absolutely right, Paul.
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I am literally talking to folks right now.
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I can't say who there's this tyranny at levels I've never even heard of before and I'm just
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going to leave it at that.
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I've got some reporters.
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I'm going to talk to you real quick and then I'll be right back on with huge news for everybody.
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Infowars.com forward slash showed Roger Port top link to us.
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Very thankful for that.
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Roger Stone giant show trial came to an end jury.
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Fifty years is what he's facing.
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All seven counts.
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Totally rigged.
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And so I'll be back with you in a few minutes.
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But good news is happening.
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There's a global awakening.
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They're trying to intimidate us.
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Paul just got back from Eastern and Central Europe and give you a big report.
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Paul Joseph Watson summit.news.
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I'm Alex Jones back in about four minutes.
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Yeah.
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So Paul had a massive election recently.
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Uh, okay.
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All right.
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You can hear almost even a little laugh from Paul.
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He was like, all right, all right, whatever.
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Yeah.
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And I think that this is a indicate like that behavior also runs in line with me thinking
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that he's becoming aware that he has a big audience right now.
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He said that Drudge is top link to us.
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We appreciate it.
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He comes in because he's like, okay, people are tuning in expecting to see Alex.
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Paul is coming in from commercial.
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Is that going to confuse people?
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I got to come in, establish my presence.
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I'll be back in a few.
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Here's Paul Joseph Watson to summit.news going to tell you all about these European problems.
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So Paul gets to talking about violence around Europe by these migrants and I don't really
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care.
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It's all sort of the same stuff.
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He always, uh, uh, prattles on about refugees show up, but I think that I'm going to play
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a tiny clip here because I think it's really interesting.
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He's citing a professor here, um, who's talking about violence in Sweden.
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Right.
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And listen to the way he cites this professor because I think it's very strange to hear
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this on info wars, the Swedish state itself is in jeopardy.
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He said the state's monopoly on violence, the actual token of a sovereign government
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has been hollowed out bit by bit.
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So wait, hold on.
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The monopoly on violence is the token of a sovereign state because I thought that Alex
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hates the idea of the monopoly of violence being in the hands of the state.
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I thought that he thinks that that's a sign of tyranny.
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Wait, I'm going to need, okay.
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The larger context of this is that there are like a people committing crimes in Sweden
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to the, uh, to the extent that these monopoly on the ability to exert a violence and power
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is taken away from the state, which is what Alex think should think is good.
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I mean, not necessarily migrant people committing crimes or whatever, uh, the narrative is here,
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but Alex is strongly opposed to a power monopoly being in the hands of the state.
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That is something he talks about all the time.
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Yeah.
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He talks about that being the enemy of sovereignty as opposed to Paul who is saying that it is
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a bedrock of sovereign.
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That doesn't even make sense.
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Like that's counter to the stated editorial position of info wars, but that doesn't make
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any sense for him to say, well, he does because he wants to make you more scared of migrants.
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No, I get, I mean, I get that, but that's just, yeah, he was, he wrote that down.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That's terrible.
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Well, because it's something that evokes an image of these migrants being overwhelming
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the police and taking out the state as like the, the framing of it is you're right.
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A hundred percent counter to what info wars believes.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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And essentially the context is all of these hordes of non-Sweden Swedes are coming in
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and taking over Sweden.
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So he's really taking, he's really couching it as like a nationalistic, like all these
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non white people are being taken over by black people and white people need to have control
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over all the force.
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As relates to white populations, there should be no power monopoly of the state.
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As to non white populations, the state must have a monopoly of power.
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Yes.
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So long as the state is white people.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, the, the, that there's where the confusion seems to be.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex comes back and he seems like he's really mad that Trump isn't helping.
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And a lot of folks that are supporters of Trump and you're in the arena, you're out
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there, but you're not in the arena like I am or a Matt Drudge is or others who I guarantee
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you have been harassed.
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I don't even need to talk to Drudge to tell you they've harassed the hell out of him and
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everybody else.
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And Trump doesn't do anything about it when he has all the damn power and is in the right
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to do it.
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And so here's the deal.
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I love Trump a lot, but it's like my back's broken.
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I'm being eaten alive in a pit.
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I can't get out.
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And Trump's up there at the top of the pit, not getting me out so he won't do anything.
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I have, my back is broken.
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I'm in a pit.
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I'm dying.
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Trump has all the power in the world to solve this problem and he won't do it.
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Yep.
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Starting to get real pissed off.
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I don't want to see these things.
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So Alex, uh, you know, uh, sorry, Roger is found guilty and these are the sort of stories
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that Alex would spend days on in the past, but just now there's so much news and we bring
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up such huge news here all the time that it all just kind of gets lost in its intensity.
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It's, it's, it's like a log jam got broken up and just thousands of huge stories are
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coming down the pike here used to 20 years ago, we take one story and dissect it for
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months.
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Nope.
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It's just a bunch of stories a day.
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The story that's confirmed of, of what went on in court today should terrify everyone
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in America and the world that if we don't get control of our government and our judiciary
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and our legislative very quickly, we are going the way that all other nations go when they
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end up declining and falling.
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So this isn't about Roger.
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This is the decline of civilization.
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I think, I don't think I like his strategy here.
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No, I don't.
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I think he's, I think he's going around it.
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I think he's going about it backwards.
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What do you mean?
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I mean, I think what he's trying to do is capitalize on all the, the larger number of
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viewers here by increasing his ads and all of that shit when that's not really going
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to do it.
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What he should be doing is taking this time.
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Now that all these people are watching again to really fucking hammer, like crush this
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shit, you know, like give the best free Roger Stone performance that anyone has ever given.
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And he should turn on Trump.
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Absolutely.
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This should be his fucking fire and brimstone.
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We begin the new conservative party and we're not going to call it the white nationalist
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party, but you know, the one option that he has that is the best option is no, you gotta,
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you gotta throw in some of those ads at the same time.
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It's make your full break.
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Like you have the most eyes on you.
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People are interested in what you're doing.
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You can now in good conscience retain what you need to retain from your Trump years.
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Move on to something new.
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Because like it is, it's something that even people on the left or people who don't like
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Alex will be like, yeah, that makes sense.
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Like the idea that he would turn on Trump because he realizes he's not going to save
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any of us.
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Yeah.
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Like that is something to be like, yep, you'll get some people being like, we told you so
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you dumb asshole, but at the same time you can't argue with that conclusion.
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Oh yeah, of course.
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You should have seen this coming, but yeah, of course it makes sense that you would turn
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on him for this.
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Other things like when he bought like Trump bombed Syria and Alex is like, yeah, so close
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jobs ISIS up the dirty asshole.
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Yeah.
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That is a position where if you turn on Trump for that, people would be like, what, what
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does that say politically?
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What is the, you know, there will be confusion and questions him turning on Trump for not
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pardoning Roger Stone.
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It was like every like, yep, makes sense.
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There's no deeper political thing.
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Yeah.
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And he had fucking llamas in, in studio to get publicity.
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Imagine the publicity he would get if he just came out on info Wars and said, we no longer
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support Trump.
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That would be MSNBC headlines.
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That's, that's the type of shit that inexplicably would get everybody talking.
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We've gone too far with this.
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Exactly.
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Or get this.
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What if when Roger was convicted, Alex had llamas in studio.
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Now that would be, see, now that's dynamite.
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That's going to keep people coming back.
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And one of the llamas Rob do does a ventriloquist act with him and the llama turns on Trump.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And then the other llama gets a tattoo of Roger Stone on its back and then goes to prison.
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It's a llama prison is just a pen.
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Yeah.
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It's very cute.
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It's cute.
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So Alex, uh, uh, freaks out here a little bit and I think some of it might have to do
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with the pressure of there being way more eyes on him.
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Now I'm not building up suspense here.
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He said, suspensefully what I confirmed from multiple people in the courtroom and people
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that are specialists in this area, let's just leave it at that is so criminal is so evil.
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Did you guys find that piece of information I wanted you to print earlier?
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The criminal evil critical that we have a congruent stream of memory and consciousness.
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What do you mean paper trail?
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You know, I think I'm just going to take a break.
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And then I'll come back and I'll get into all of it.
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All right, but you know, this is a lot of dead air.
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These people are just absolutely unbelievable.
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Drew just gave you guys a file.
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You have that file of four and a half minutes long.
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You got that, that one.
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Thanks.
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Play that.
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And then I'm going to go get this piece of information and I love the crew.
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They're great.
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If I could fire every fucking one of you, I would, if I could fire everyone, but I can't
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afford better than you, you're all nine year olds.
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So mad.
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Oh, so he goes, uh, takes a break and plays like a special report and, uh, he comes back
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and you can tell, like he definitely punched a wall or something because he's trying to
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act way more professional ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Alex Jones, and I am a syndicated
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radio and TV host based in Austin, Texas.
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Wow.
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There are a lot of new viewers tuning in via info wars.com forward slash show and band
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dot video.
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He very clearly wouldn't behave like that.
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Say I'm a syndicated radio host out of Austin.
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If he didn't have like information that there are tons of people who have never listened
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to his show before.
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You are an official as fuck because of the terrible Roger Stone political prisoner conviction
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of all seven counts facing 50 years in jail at the hands of the Obama hanging judge who
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let Hillary Clinton off the hook for Benghazi and the clear stand down and the deaths that
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happened there.
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Nice.
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She railroaded Manafort and others, but Manafort had actually done some of the things that
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the off shore accounts, which you could argue where he was targeted for political reasons.
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Stone did nothing wrong.
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Drudge report.com is top linked to our story and our live feed where we're breaking all
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of this down.
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So while it is true that Amy Berman Jackson, the judge in Roger's trial was also the judge
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in the case of Paul Manafort, that is true, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything
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nefarious is up.
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There are only 15 judges in the US District Court for the District of Columbia and it's
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entirely possible that this was a coincidence of timing.
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Alex would need to do better than just to say Obama appointed her to prove any kind
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of concrete conspiracy here.
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That's a pretty serious accusation to make about a judge.
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If you look up Judge Jackson's history, Alex's picture of a leftist judge towing the liberal
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line just doesn't really seem to square with reality.
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For instance, she presided over the sentencing of Jesse Jackson Jr. who was a Democrat member
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of the House and the son of Jesse Jackson when he stole about $750,000 of campaign money.
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You'd think if she was a damn hatchet person, she would have thrown out his sentence but
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instead she put him in jail.
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As it relates to Hillary Clinton, she didn't do anything crazy in terms of Benghazi.
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All she did is dismiss a wrongful death suit against Hillary because it would have been
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illegal for it to continue based on the Westfall Act.
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The Westfall Act is a 1988 law that made it so the United States itself is to be substituted
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as a defendant in cases where a government employee is sued for something that was the
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result of something that they did in their official capacity in their job.
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This act explains a lot of questions why government officials and vigors aren't being constantly
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sued.
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It's because they have a form of immunity in terms of their official business.
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Alex can say that this judge was protecting Hillary but to do anything other than what
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she did, Judge Jackson would have violated the Supreme Court ruling and a law passed
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by Congress.
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It would have been very illegal for her to allow that lawsuit to continue.
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Now interestingly, in looking into Judge Jackson, I found a website that I have become fascinated
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with and I might have spent way too much time on.
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It's called Patriot or Traitor.
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Don't don't don't don't.
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This is a blog.
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This is a blog.
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Do not tell me that you can just type in a name and it will tell you if they are a patriot
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or a traitor.
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You can't type in any name but there's a big database.
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This is just a blog where someone has come up with a list of traitors and patriots.
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So now Jordan, we're going to play a game.
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We're going to play a game of Traitor or Patriot.
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I'm going to give you a name.
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You got to guess.
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Do we have an editorial position for a traitor or patriot?
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Now if it's me and I'm guessing who would create a website called traitoropatriate.com,
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I'm guessing that my guys who I appreciate are probably going to lean more towards the
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traitor side.
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Would I be correct in that assumption?
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I think that you can guess based on who would make a website like this.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Okay, let's go for it.
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You ready?
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Yeah.
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First one.
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I'm going to give you a name.
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Traitor.
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Traitor.
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That was an easy one.
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The easy one.
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Lavoie Finicum.
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The guy who got shot at the Bundy standoff.
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Patriot.
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Yes, he was a patriot.
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Mad Dog James Mattis, General Mattis.
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Are we pre-2018 or post-2018?
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I can't give you that information.
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I'm going to go with updated to traitor.
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It's not updated but he is a patriot on the website.
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Oh, okay.
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Shit.
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Okay, here you go.
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William Barr.
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Current Attorney General William Barr.
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God, I need time stamps on when these decisions are made.
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These people, everybody is a traitor or a patriot because they're all fucking shady
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as shit.
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Okay.
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You got to make a decision.
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I'm going to go with patriot.
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Traitor.
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What?
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How is that possible?
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I should have assumed that it was traitor otherwise why would you even bring it up?
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Representative John Lewis, civil rights activist John Lewis.
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I don't know.
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Is there a super traitor?
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Traitor.
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He's a traitor.
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He's a traitor.
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Bernie Sanders.
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Oh.
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See, time stamp.
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There was a time when these people especially would consider Bernie a patriot but I'm going
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to have to go with traitor.
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You are correct.
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Traitor.
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Okay.
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Edward Snowden.
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Oh.
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There's a couple here at the end that are a little bit tough.
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Yeah.
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This gets down to personal shit.
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Even in the conservative community, there are people who would say that Snowden was
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absolutely a traitor and there are plenty who would say he was absolutely a patriot.
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I'm going to go with traitor.
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Patriot.
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Damn it.
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Damn it.
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Son of a bitch.
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And finally, last one.
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Justice Antonin Scalia.
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I don't know but wherever he is, I'm glad it's hell.
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So you got to make a choice.
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I'm going to go with patriot.
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Traitor.
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God damn it.
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Fine.
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I'm fine with it.
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I did find if you go through this, almost everybody who's a Supreme Court justice is
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a traitor.
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Well, yeah, because sooner or later, you'll be able to find one case where you're like,
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that's a traitor case.
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Honestly, that site is not nearly as fun as the idea of it is.
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It's mostly just walls of text and I should tell you, there are way more traitors than
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patriots.
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Yeah.
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That doesn't surprise me.
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Anyway, point is, Alex needs to do better than this if he wants to smear a judge just
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because he's going to send his friend to prison.
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She had no legal reason to not dismiss the case against Hillary and it's entirely possible
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it's a coincidence that she got both Roger and Manafort's cases.
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There are clear counterexamples in her judicial history like that of Jesse Jackson Jr. that
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tend to hurt the theory that she's a biased setup kind of judge.
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You can really tell, though, he knows that more people are listening now.
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He's trying to sound real smart and focused and I think it's cute.
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He's doing it wrong.
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He should be going full crazy.
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Yeah, probably.
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That's how you get people to come back.
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Nobody wants to just listen to a professional broadcaster.
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You're Alex fucking Jones.
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Yeah.
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Earlier, he said that he's not building suspense right before he started freaking out and had
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to go off air.
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It's because he has big news.
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And I talked to some other journalists that are scared to come on about what was said
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this morning in the trial when they tried to put Roger in prison until the February
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6th sentencing that the judge has done and what happened there and what was said about
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Roger and myself and you, the listeners of this show, about you.
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And I'm not building up the suspense of it.
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I'm getting some documents, doing some research, collating those, and I'm going to write a
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statement during the next break so that I get this precisely the way it is because they
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want to arrest me.
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And they're saying it in the court.
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You've seen him in the news last week trying to get me arrested and lying about me.
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Yeah.
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So he's teasing, you know, he's just trying to tease this out, retain these listeners
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because he has big things happening on the show.
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But he doesn't.
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Isn't that what the real issue here is?
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He doesn't really have anything to tease.
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So he's trying to make up something frantically.
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He's trying to find a way to spin whatever he's got going, which is just basically that
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the people, the prosecution was arguing that his actions were a breach of Roger's gag order.
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That's really all that this whole tease is all about.
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But here's the thing, Alex does have something huge going on, but most people listening to
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his show wouldn't think this is huge.
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Only I think it's huge.
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And that is that he's got Larry Nichols coming on.
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He'll join us again Sunday on the Sunday Shelby Live 4 to 6 p.m. or Monday so we get more
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time.
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He understands this is breaking right now, but it ties into all this.
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I've known Larry Nichols for 25 years.
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He did work for the Clintons.
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He was a Green Beret and did a bunch of stuff in Latin America.
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He did a bunch of CIA stuff.
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He did help them get elected.
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He did help them do dirty tricks.
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He did help them develop the broken coalition strategy.
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And Bill Clinton in a memoir did call him a very dangerous person to them.
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Well, he is dangerous.
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He's crazy.
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Yeah.
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To my knowledge, Larry Nichols has not been on Alex's show in over two years.
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I can't say with absolute certainty, but I know that I haven't heard him on the show
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since September 21st, 2017, which I remember very well because that was the day Larry threatened
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to blackmail Congress and Mueller if they didn't stop investigating Trump, which is
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a big old crime.
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We had a great day.
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That was a good one.
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There's something going on here, and I think it's something that I've been sensing for
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a while now.
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When Joel Skousen started making increasing appearances on the show, I thought it was
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possibly an indication of Alex shifting things a little bit in his show.
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Skousen had made it very clear that he doesn't think much of Trump and actually called him
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an idiot many times on Alex's show.
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After the 2016 election, when Alex was at the high point of his Trump infatuation, this
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led to them not seeing eye-to-eye, and he really wasn't around too much as a trusted
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source.
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But he's coming back on the show now, which is interesting, more regularly.
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Then, on November 14th, I'm sorry, on the 13th, Alex had Steve Pechenik back on the
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show after him being gone for over a year.
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And now, here we have Larry Nichols brought back from the dead after a very long absence.
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I think these three reappearing are very interesting, and I'll tell you why.
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Alex lost a lot more experts than just these three when he went full Trump.
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Webster Tarpley hates Trump, and he would never talk to Alex again at this point.
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Wayne Madsen hates Trump, and now views Alex as some kind of a shill, most likely for Israel.
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These were dudes that Alex built narratives on.
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Webster Tarpley was like one-third of the Obama deception documentary.
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These were central figures in the info war.
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Skousen, Steve, and Larry were important too, but they're guys that Alex has who don't hate
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him for what he's become.
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Steve and Larry are into Trump, but obviously for their own reasons.
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Steve wants to install a dictator, and Larry just hates the Clintons.
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Skousen doesn't like Trump, but he still respects Alex because of their shared insane anti-communism.
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These are the three experts from days past who Alex could credibly bring back into his
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roster while transitioning away from Trump successfully.
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In that period, Skousen could be presented as an expert who was regrettably right all
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along.
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The Trump embodied a great promise for them, but wasn't competent enough to follow through.
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Steve can make up stories about how Trump could have saved everyone, but the counter
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coup was just too strong.
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Larry can connect any stories about any Democrat to the Clintons and whisper ominously about
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witches.
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He's got that skill in Spain.
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It's like he's the best at playing six degrees of Kevin Bacon, but instead it's always Clinton.
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And witches.
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Yeah.
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I accept that I'm probably way overthinking this, but from where I'm sitting, the timing
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of this stuff seems very suspicious.
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Skousen's been reintegrating, and then on the day of the impeachment inquiry starting
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the hearings, Steve is back.
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And now the day Roger is found guilty, Larry is back.
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It could all be a coincidence.
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I'm totally fine that that is a very fine possibility, but these dudes were regulars
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on the show for years, and just a few years back.
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They were the people who were replaced by the Gavin McGinnises and the Mike Cernovich
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crowd.
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For them to be making a resurgence feels like it means something, but I want to stress that
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I could just be drawing conclusions that aren't necessarily there.
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Another reason that I think this maybe might not mean anything too big is that Alex is
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in the middle of trying to pretend that Hillary is secretly running in 2020, so why wouldn't
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he call Larry Nichols?
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He's trying to run an imaginary anti-Hillary campaign, but he doesn't have Roger this time,
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so it makes sense that he would resort to whatever he remembers from last time, thus
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the Pizzagate narratives coming back and Larry Nichols' dumb ass showing back up too.
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It makes some sense, but it does also fit a pattern of what you would do if you were
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trying to save what you could.
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Right.
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What I see is that, what is it, like common sports narrative where the guy is hanging
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out with his friends, we're from wherever, we'll always be from wherever, doesn't matter,
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he goes to the big times, stops hanging out with his friends, he's like, nah, I don't
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have time for you, I got the president elected, I'm above this shit, then gets knocked down,
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he's got a broken ankle and he's never going to be able to play again, and all of a sudden
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now he's back home and he's got to fucking fix the relationship with his buddies, he's
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got to go back there, yeah.
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Yeah, I agree with you and it's difficult to tell how much of it is some sort of a plan
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like that, but it feels like, I mean, we're hearing these indications of Alex being like,
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Trump doesn't, he's not going to protect us and he's not going to pardon Trump, I'm sorry,
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Roger, I don't know what I'm going to do.
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You have simultaneously the recurrence of these people who are the people from his past
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that have drifted for various reasons that he could reintegrate and work with.
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I don't know, I just-
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Oh man, no, here's what's even better, this is where I got it, all right?
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He just came to LA, he's been working his ass off, Roger Stone gets signed as his agent
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immediately, Trump, he's the head of the studio, he's getting all kinds of pictures lined up,
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everything is going his way, all of a sudden, Stone gets arrested and Trump stops answering
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his emails and now, uh-oh, I'm fucked.
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That's where I see it and so that's where he goes back to his fucking Missouri hometown
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little improv theater and they just fucking bang it out, man, we're going to start a band.
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Whatever the reality of it is, I sense a drifting away, I sense a possibility of it being more
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anti-Hillary than pro-Trump moving forward and certainly, these are the three people
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that I can think of that aren't around or haven't been around anymore that Alex could
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still do shit with.
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A lot of those other people, if he tried to bring them into the show, it would be confrontational,
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it would be like if Webster Tarpley was on, he would probably talk about how libertarianism
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is a gateway to fascism and like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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He would dunk on Alex all day.
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Yeah, try and bring Wayne Madsen back in, he'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with
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you?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And all those things would turn bad, Steve, Skousen and Larry are three ways to connect
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the past to the present, to have a coherent connection of, whatever he fucking said.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They're like a constant in the lost terminology.
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It's a bridge between the past and the present that he can use to work towards a future that
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is different than what he has now.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Maybe he just doesn't have Stone's Rolodex anymore.
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Could be.
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Could be.
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There's a hundred possibilities, could just be that he's like, no one else will talk to
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him.
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Yeah.
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It could mean nothing, but I just sense trends away from Trump.
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We'll see.
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The problem with that is I don't see any way that it, because if you're going to stop,
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if you're no longer carrying water for Trump and if you're no longer defending all of the
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shit he says, then you've only got the anti Hillary stuff and there's really nothing there.
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So all you've really got left from is, is just calling for more out and out violence.
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You do.
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You do have that to some extent and you, I think that you'd have a tough time threading
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that needle, but you could also really regroup and be like, okay, what we need is a Trump,
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but more competent and loyal and trustworthy.
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Steve, Steve, shut up.
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Shut up about the whole fucking dictatorship shit, Steve.
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You get the fuck down.
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All right.
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That will be another issue that you have to deal with.
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Sorry.
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I was just screaming in my ear about how he was, you could, you could, you could see Alex
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trying again with a more principled person or something.
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You could see him getting behind Jim Jordan as their new like cult leader or something
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like the new figurehead.
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You could see him trying to reconnect with Rand Paul.
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Like there are options that he could go to in terms of who you look to, but we've talked
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about this a hundred times.
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Alex's show works as a counter to something as opposed to a supporting of something.
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So it doesn't matter if he has somebody fully to support, he needs to get that albatross
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off his neck and get back to just attacking and attacking Hillary is something and the
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deep state can be done without Trump.
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Anybody can do it.
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And Skousen, Larry and Steve are great tools to have for him in terms of furthering that
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goal, getting back to what works as opposed to sycophantically praising, uh, uh, your
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God King.
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Yeah.
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And they're all, what has it done for him?
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He's got carpet dunked him hanging out.
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You know, he's got, he's got carpet dunked him won't even go on a show anymore.
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He's got all these meme dicks.
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You know, he has like, that's, it's, that's the alternative.
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Yeah.
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That is, that is so, that must be so disheartening.
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Just like that whole, like the reason that I joined the Trump team was because I was
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promised elevation and all I've got left is carpet dunked him and the guy who hits stuff
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with a hammer.
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He does hit stuff with a hammer though.
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I don't know if he's coming back on the show.
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Yeah, I doubt it.
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He's a little bit big time for Alex, but you know who isn't Larry fucking.
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Hey Larry.
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So here we get to hearing this raspy ass voice back on the show, uh, but thanks for joining
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as well.
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What do you think of the Roger Stone situation?
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Alex, it's just what I have warned you about 25, 30 years ago.
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It's coming.
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It's coming live.
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It's real.
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And I feel sorry for Roger.
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I feel sorry for anybody that they attack attack them.
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So, uh, Roger or Larry wants to bring, uh, Soros into a conspiracy here, but it's really
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funny because in this next clip, he can't come up with Soros, his name.
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He's like, I know there's a bad guy that nobody's talking about, which is probably one of the
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biggest clues of what's happening.
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Alex is, uh, what's his name?
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Oh God, my mind just went blank.
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The guy that funds all of them and teeth and everything, um, help me your second man.
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It's okay, Larry.
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Stay there.
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I don't, I don't think that that is like an aging memory loss kind of thing.
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I think that's just not Larry having a conspiracy, but not really knowing what he's talking about.
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That's just like, I don't remember this guy's name.
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He's juggling too many bad guys in his brain.
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Yeah, probably.
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He's had so many over the years.
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He's had so many boogeyman who knows which one's supposed to go where Soros is actually
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a wit Stevens, Rockefellers.
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So fine, man.
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Alex comes back from break, but you heard that music again again.
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Yeah.
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So I'm telling you, it plays throughout most of the episode.
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He hates his crew so much.
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I would too.
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So they come back and Alex gets into talking about how he's really mad, uh, about the fact
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that his name came up in the trial and I got a big target painted on my back and I'll probably
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get destroyed in the process here in the next few years, maybe even sooner, but you know
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what?
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That's what men do.
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They stand up because the example they make out of me, they think is going to intimidate
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you.
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I think it's going to inspire you to not go along with these people and to take our government
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back legally and lawfully, and we're in the process of it now, but the missing link and
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all this is the justice department and Trump because the government's so full of these
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people that are arrogant and entitled and insolent that they really believe I should
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be in a jail cell because that which war criminal Hillary didn't get in, I'm going to go to
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Larry Nichols.
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I apologize for getting him on late, huge breaking things.
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This segment in the next year also, well, he's in, we'll have him back soon so we can
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really get into all this.
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But please remember we're less or supported the big thing they try to take away is money
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to fund ourselves.
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Nice.
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So what Alex is talking about there in that clip, and it's basically just the big news
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that he had to deliver.
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They keeps teasing is that he thinks that the court wants him arrested.
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This is neither true nor is it big news.
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I was trying to find a clip to cut of him talking about this, but honestly the delivery
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of it when he gets around to it is so rambling and incoherent that I felt like we could just
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talk about it.
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On his show on the 14th, Alex purported to have that message from Roger.
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That message was largely that he felt like he was going to be found guilty and he wanted
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Alex's audience to pray for him and for Trump to pardon him.
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This was unfortunately wrapped in messages from Alex that if Roger got found guilty,
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everyone needed to go surround the White House and bullhorn them and that it was the end
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of freedom and all those other things that got caught up in all of which have already
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come true.
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Right?
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So, uh, because of that, you know, they just felt like we've already talked about this,
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but that's the news.
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Yeah.
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We talked about, uh, in court that Alex might have been, uh, responsible for breaking the
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gag order.
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Right.
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So ultimately, uh, you know, holding Roger after the, uh, sentencing might have been
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or after the verdict that might've been a bit excessive, but that's not what they did
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there.
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And I think that the fact that they retained the gag order is something that is very responsible
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to do.
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So while under the gag order, Roger posted an image of judge Jackson with like a crosshair
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on it.
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Alex has a habit of targeting people for harassment and that behavior has been particularly bad
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lately with his two botched attempts at guessing Roger's potential juror names, uh, particularly
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notable.
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Plus the case Roger was being tried for involved witness tampering and intimidation.
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Putting him under a gag order is like suspending someone's driver's license when they're awaiting
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trial for a DWI.
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He's shown that he can't be trusted to behave responsibly.
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More importantly, you can hear with Alex, this frustration that's growing with Trump.
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He and his buddies are out here on the front lines and either doing everything they can,
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but Trump refuses to act or support them.
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Alex has teased turning on Trump so many times, I can't really even trust anything he's saying,
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but I think that like his petty feelings about being abandoned are the most plausible thing
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that will cause Alex.
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Yeah, you are.
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You are absolutely right.
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And this is a situation that could easily create those feelings.
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That's the only reason why I take any of this like as a possibility that's worth discussing
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because it fits this, like his behaviors so well.
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No, he could, he could trample all over any political position that Alex has ever had.
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Obviously ego.
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But if he's, if he's like, Oh no, no, sorry Alex.
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I don't care about you.
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What have you, what have you done for me lately?
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Or I don't remember you being that important to me or your, your actions were great, but
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they don't deserve any reward is, is, Oh, the recipe for him to totally, yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex is talking to Larry and Larry makes an interesting caveat.
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Just get into the impeachment and Hillary behind the scenes, she's clearly still in
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control of the deep state that's now admitted and what you think their next moves are going
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to be.
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Absolutely.
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But let me say this out front, folks, anything I say, Alex is not responsible for it.
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It's from me.
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And if the prosecution wants to come after me, come after me, not Alex.
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And before we leave Roger Stone, here's what I know, Alex Roger Stone goes in jail.
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Now folks, I dealt with Jim McDougal.
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He was killed in jail, especially after the Epstein case.
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I fear if Roger gets put in prison, he won't be there a week.
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He will not be there a week.
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He will be eliminated.
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Trust me.
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I know these people.
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So why is Larry saying that Alex isn't responsible for his words?
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Is that because the last time he was on, he blackmailed Congress?
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Okay.
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So there is that.
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And you don't want to have any of that mess.
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You need a boiler plate.
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There definitely does sound like there was a pre-show meeting.
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It feels like it.
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It feels like, Hey Larry, you talk a lot of shit.
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I don't want to get sued.
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I'm already getting sued.
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Everybody, everyone yells at me for things that my guests say, can you please make a
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disclaimer?
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if every guest going forward doesn't have to put some sort
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of that smart.
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Yeah.
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So Larry has a theory and it's not well fleshed out in his words, but I know from looking
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into this, I think Roger Stone is an airbender and he'll get out of prison that way.
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That's not well spelled out in his words.
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He talking about the impeachment inquiry, he thinks that it is very notable that Adam
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Schiff is a screenwriter.
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So what's going on is that Adam Schiff is screenwriting a play in real time.
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That is the impeachment.
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That's basically the long and short of his theory.
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The impeachment, this impeachment was rigged from day one.
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What I have found out and turned over to the prosecutors, which one's general's office
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is that it turns out that Adam Schiff folks wrote this script, this whole script they're
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going through now, it's a subpoena trap.
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He did it back when they figured out that the Miller case was going to end up going
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nowhere, which was about halfway through the mirror investigation.
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Now, I didn't know this until the host I was doing researched it, but as it turns out,
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Adam Schiff has a hobby.
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Guess what it is Alex?
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Screen.
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Let's talk about that hobby when we're back in two minutes with Larry Nichols, cause I'm
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going to shut up for a while.
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Let him break it down.
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I mean, I want to make this clear.
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He's literally saying it's a screenwriting thing.
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It's not metaphorical.
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It's he's, he's doing like a fucking a twilight zone episode where the mystery novel writer,
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the mystery has become real Jesus.
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So Larry is on primarily probably because he had this story about Ed Buck being involved
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with Adam.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex gets to that.
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And then I, I don't know if you can make more sense of this than I can, but Larry literally
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says in the middle of this clip, Adam Schiff went to these parties at Buck's house dressed
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like an Egyptian because he's a screenwriter.
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Okay.
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Let's see if you can make sense of it because I am flummoxed.
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The answer is going after the ringleaders crimes and exposing them.
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And that's what Larry Nichols is doing with it's confirmed mainstream news that Adam Schiff
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leading the fake impeachment is good buddies with Buck is there at least 16 times at bizarre
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sex parties where they did ritualistic mock human sacrifice.
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And that's in some of the diaries of some of the victims that died, at least three black
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men, some of them crawling, begging as he would plunge needles filled with methamphetamine
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into them as a form of sacrifice reportedly Larry Nichols, getting back to what you were
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saying longer segment coming up in the short one, please continue with the hobby of Adam
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Schiff and what your sources are saying.
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Well, absolutely as a matter of fact, I'm the one that won't fact that shift has been
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to Buck's apartment in his party place 16 times now it turns out Alex, Larry, do me
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a favor.
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Back off your receiver a little bit back off your receiver.
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Now they have verification 27 times he was at Buck's parties.
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Now the other thing is the time frame at which he's gone to it's always of an evening plus
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in seven of the events he went to, they were costume kind of parties and then with Adam
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shifts, screenwriting dreams, he would go as these freaky weird, like you said, Egyptian
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pipe demon outfits, freaky weird Egyptian type demon outfits because he's a screenwriter.
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Okay.
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Now I'm going to diagram what I think he's saying.
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I saw you're taking some notes.
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All right.
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So if I understand this correctly, in order to further his screenwriting career, head
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of the house judiciary committee, Adam Schiff is dressing in an Egyptian outfit to go to
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ritualistic sacrifices.
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And it's important to note that they must be at night because he only goes in the evening
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evening times.
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All right.
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So I want to get this out of the way up top.
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Nothing I'm saying or any takes on this story that I have should imply that I have any interest
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in defending at Buck.
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I hope his case is thoroughly investigated and he's punished to the full extent of the
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law.
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I think it's good for people to talk about that case as long as they stay grounded in
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reality.
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However, I don't think that's what Larry is doing.
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Larry has been pushing this Adam Schiff narrative since at least October 11th when he made a
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startling allegation on the YouTube show crowdsource the truth.
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It's pretty complicated to describe what that show is, but I think it might be fair to say
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it's a bargain bin info wars where Alex's guests go when Alex is too busy.
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Like when you get kicked off Twitter, you go to gab.
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It's kind of the same thing when a guest is no longer welcome on info wars, but still
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has an itch to lie to people.
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They end up going to crowdsource the truth.
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Jerome Corsi and Larry Nichols are two of the show's regular guests currently.
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The host, Jason Goodman, has also welcomed to his show some of the more unsavory characters
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who've popped up on Alex's show over the years.
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There's Robert David Steele, the guy who told Alex the globalists are taking kidnapped children
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to Mars bases.
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I do think the two of them have had a falling out though, Goodman and Robert David Steele.
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Well, that'll happen.
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There's Laura Loomer.
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There's Larry Klayman who recently sued Alex along with Jerome Corsi.
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There's Jack Basobek.
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There's also a weird Project Camelot overlap in which Jason has had Carrie Cassidy on at
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least once, as well as her big false flag expert, Olay Damagar, who's someone who we
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haven't covered because those episodes are not Project Camelot fun, but he's on Project
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Camelot a lot to talk about false flags, along with Jim Fetzer sometimes, the guy who wrote
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the book, No One Died at Sandy Hook.
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I hate so much that if Adam Schiff, and I don't even care if it's true or not, but Adam
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Schiff likes to write screenplays in his off time, and that's evidence that he's some sort
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of evil whatever it is.
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But Carrie Cassidy tried to write screenplays, but she's the only one who's exposing the
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real truth now.
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And she's still writing screenplays.
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Do we?
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Does nothing matter?
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No, it doesn't.
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It doesn't.
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So hilariously, the thumbnail image on one of the videos of this crowdsource, The Truth,
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that was interviewing Olay Damagar is just the Illuminati card game cards.
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Okay, of course.
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And has the title, quote, Our Globalist Elites Playing Our Lives as a Game.
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That works for me.
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Honestly, I've considered covering that show as a wacky Wednesday option, but every time
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I've tried, I just find the host so boring and the content very unengaging.
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With Larry coming back into Alex's life, I might have to reconsider, but I probably won't.
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We'll see.
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Jason Goodman himself has been at least featured on David Knight's show, but I'm not sure he's
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ever made it to the rarefied air of being on with Alex.
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He also sometimes talks to people who Alex doesn't ignore, like Mike Adams and Owen Schroyer.
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Also, Jason Goodman was one of the journalists who attended Alex's weird press conference
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back in April of last year.
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It's a show that traffics in all the real dumb, cool conspiracy theories, like Pizzagate,
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Seth Rich, the Las Vegas shooting.
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He's even down with the dumb Dennis Montgomery bullshit.
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My point here is that this is basically a junior varsity Infowars, and it's not a good
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show.
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That's where Larry Nichols started putting this information out, after which point it
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gets repeated ad nauseum in the fringe right-wing media.
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It's really easy to get this narrative cooking.
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Larry's a lunatic who has a twenty-something year record of making shit up for attention
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and money, but he can just go on a dumb YouTube conspiracy show, say some stupid shit, then
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sites like True Pundit will re-report it, while breathlessly calling Larry a consummate
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Washington insider and Clinton confidant.
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True Pundit posts articles with headlines like, quote, Clinton Whistleblower Feds Investigating
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Adam Schiff's Disturbing Behavior at Ed Buck's Meth Sex House, with no confirmation or evidence
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other than Larry saying it.
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Then sites with real smart-sounding names like Global Intel Hub get to re-report on
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the story, linking to the True Pundit story, saying, quote, officially Schiff is under
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investigation.
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This story gets at the added flair of credibility, because there are pictures of Schiff and Buck
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at events together, because Buck was a huge political donor.
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And because of that, of course Buck's crime deserves particular attention, I don't disagree
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with that, and Schiff or any other politician, if they turn a blind eye to Buck's actions
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because of financial support, then they should be held to account for that.
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But the simple fact of Buck donating to Schiff, or Schiff being seen with Buck at a public
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event, that doesn't prove anything on its own.
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What Larry and Alex are doing is completely unacceptable, because they don't care about
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Buck's crimes, except how they can be used to further their political ends, and I find
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that shitty.
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If any of this stuff can ever be proven in any way, I'm fine changing my position.
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But for now, I have a standing position of not believing a damn thing Larry Nichols says,
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unless it can be confirmed by someone who isn't a career liar.
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Yeah, that picture, fuck off.
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You've got a picture of Trump with every Democratic lawmaker, does that mean they're all, it's
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all fucking stupid.
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So do you understand, though, this pipeline?
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You have Larry, in October, going on Crowdsource the Truth, which is a dumb conspiracy YouTube
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show.
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He says this bullshit on there, it gets picked up by a blog that has no goddamn editorial
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stance or standards at all, and then it gets re-repeated like a game of telephone from
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there.
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So when Alex says this has been confirmed in the mainstream news, it hasn't.
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It's a blog post on True Pundit that's based on Larry just talking shit.
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This is how the pipeline works.
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Yep, a high school pitcher starts throwing 95 miles an hour, and in eight months they're
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in the major leagues.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So Larry has an interesting position about these hearings that are going on in the impeachment
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inquiry.
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This is crazy.
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Now, you'll notice what they're doing, they're using this hearing to solicit deep state career
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people to come out, come forward.
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And as we found out with the quote-unquote whistleblower, if you don't have anything
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to report, get hold of us, and shift, we'll scream right to you a part to play and what
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to say.
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And of course, they're making it very clear that they will protect you.
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Don't worry, come out.
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Don't worry if we're telling you to say stuff that didn't happen.
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They'll never touch you.
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We'll protect you.
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So it's an open casting call, these impeachment inquiries.
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Another way of saying that is he will include you in the proceedings.
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No, no, he's writing you.
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I mean, that's a metaphor, even if it's literal.
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That is weak bullshit, Larry.
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I expect hard rice from you, not this soft bullshit.
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No, Larry is usually this weak, and it's very thin.
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Man, he will scream right you apart.
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Very dumb.
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Got him.
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So the other thing that Larry is bringing is this mentality that now that Roger is going
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to prison, we've got to be the voice of Roger.
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No.
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None of this is about me, Alex, this is about your info wars now, they're going to try to
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shut you down.
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But folks, if we stand behind Alex, and I'm not here to patronize or anything like that,
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I'm here to tell you the damn truth straight up and that's up.
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Alex, you and I and others, we've got to become the voice for Roger Stone.
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He can't do it anymore.
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We've got to do it.
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And just like Soros is doing, he's going around to the United States and they're down-ballot
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funding prosecutors and county sheriffs.
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Why?
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So that if anybody stands up in nowhere America, I'm no USA, they're going to go after him
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just like they went after Roger, just like they went after General Flynn or anybody else.
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So Larry is saying that we've got to be the voice of Roger.
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I just got a message from Roger Stone right now, Dan.
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He can't speak for himself, but we can.
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We have to be, now that Roger can't speak on info wars, Dan, we have to be Roger Stone's
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voice.
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Suspicious.
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I think we do.
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And now he's remembered Soros's name.
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He's remembered the narrative he was supposed to push and that is that now they're trying
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to get these prosecutors in, in rural areas in order to tamp down rural descent.
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What is it with these fucking dudes and county sheriffs?
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They, they, where did- They're the highest authority in the world.
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Why would that even cross your mind is not a crazy thing to say.
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Soros is funding new county sheriffs in order to print.
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That's insane.
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Well, it's because I think they recognize that the largest share of their base and their
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audience is probably people in rural areas who are disconnected from a larger communities.
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Who are county sheriffs.
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Sure.
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And also like it does serve their interest to try and make them more scared of their
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position.
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Right.
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I get that.
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That's just so silly.
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Yeah, it's dumb.
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But Larry is insistent that this isn't about Roger.
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This isn't even about Trump.
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It's about you.
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They know what they're doing and, and folks, then I'm going after Trump, then I'm going
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after Alex.
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They're coming after us.
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Change Trump's name to us, change Alex's name to us, that's who they're coming after.
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Did you commit all those crimes?
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You know, Alex, you and I, years, years ago said there would be a coup that we were in
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a soft coup.
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I don't think your audience has ever even heard of a soft coup until we talked about
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it.
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Yawn.
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So look, this is all like just, you know, trying to personalize this to the audience
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and you know, whatever.
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It's exactly what you would expect them to do.
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And also what you would expect them to do is Larry, if he's coming back, he's gotta
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pay the bills and it's on, it's on and everywhere you turn, they are working to do the big word
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submission.
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Put you and everyone in submission and it's a, it's a blessing to hear you Alex, not,
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not go into submission.
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Stand up.
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Now.
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Unfortunately folks, he don't have a big bargain on his back already does, but it's going to
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get bigger.
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But this is where I ask all of y'all out there, this is your battle too.
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Don't do it.
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If you have never purchased or been a part of Alex's organization through his products
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or donations or whatever, do it now.
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Do it now because Alex is about the only frontline we've got with a media platform of strength.
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This is part of the arrangement.
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Oh yeah.
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That was definitely contingent upon his return.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Or even if it's not, it's just Larry knows the game.
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He knows what he has to do.
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And that hearkens all the way back to some, uh, Ted Anderson gold sales is so transparently
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bullshit.
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Like, all right, you might as well be reading off copy, man.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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So do you think Larry thinks that Hillary's running?
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You know what?
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I'm going to say that Larry thinks that there's no way Hillary's going to run.
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What she's trying to do is orchestrate the actual candidate and then when the candidate
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wins election, she will kill the candidate and assume the role of president.
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That would be better.
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He just thinks she's running.
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Oh, okay.
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What I'm seeing, what you see, Alex, this thing's going down and it's ever going to
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go.
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It's going to go down.
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She needs to be the head of it and she plans to be the head of it.
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So I will not be surprised at all if she's not in that race in a month.
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Now we don't have time today, but as I've done in the past, if you have any on again,
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I'll be glad to tell everybody exactly what they're doing and what they're doing next.
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And you know, Alex, we had a hell of a good track record.
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Yeah, you do.
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Let's flashback to when Larry was saying that Obama was going to run again in 2016 and then
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declare himself a Muslim.
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That was his first thought.
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So he turned America into a Muslim country so he would be the king of global Islam.
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Right.
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Well, it was either that or turn into a shitty centrist trying to ruin his legacy as much
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as possible.
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I remember when Larry was saying that they were going to launch a FEMA permit provisional
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government state of emergency because when the Clintons do that, if they're in charge,
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they become king.
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Right.
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You're the president.
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When that goes into effect, you become right.
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And there are no senators or Congress members who are coming out and telling you the truth
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because when that shit goes down, they become Dukes.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, it was either that or she would go on a book tour.
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Great batting average.
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It was Larry, look, if you accept that there were only two possibilities each time, he
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only was half wrong on both.
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Sure.
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So like when he says she sees that it's going down, that's what he's talking about is like
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the whatever government that where we get Kings and Dukes is about to start and she
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better be in charge of that.
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That's what he's talking about.
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This is like horseshit.
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Oh yeah.
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So anyway, you know, Alex, I don't know how to talk about this next clip because it's
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fucking weird.
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So he, Alex starts telling a story that Roger told him pre gag order, so it's okay for him
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to tell this story.
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I know I'm going to go with air on air on the side of caution, man.
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It's about Roger getting threatened if he didn't do what the globalists wanted him to
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do air on the side of caution.
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And so Alex has also been threatened, but there's a weird reason why he doesn't talk
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specifically about these threats.
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Well, I was told this before they gagged him and, and, and so I can say it, but he did
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have people reach out to him from the system to turn against Trump, they'd leave him alone.
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And of course he didn't do it.
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And so we've got a SWAT team raid and I I've had the same stuff as well.
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And you know, there are off record discussions and I've had to sign on disclosures and things
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like that.
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And I, and I, and I want to be able to meet with these criminals occasionally.
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Uh, so I don't ever break those deals cause that's not criminal to meet with the criminals.
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Uh, but you know, I've had meetings with these mafia people's representatives and uh, they're
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basically like, Hey man, we're going to kill you.
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And I'm like, well just go ahead cause you're going to get it after that politically.
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That's what this is all about.
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If I need to go down at the Alamo jackasses, I will.
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You understand?
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Just remember, you're going to get it.
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You see how you're already getting your ass handed to you already see how long you're
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losing it.
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And just like Gandhi, when you take that club and split my head on that blood running down
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both sides.
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I don't know.
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I beat your ass.
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Larry Nichols.
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We love you.
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We'll talk to you again soon.
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Buddy.
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That's the, uh, that's that music again.
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Uh, and uh, so if I understand this correctly, tell me if you have a different interpretation.
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Uh huh.
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Alex is saying that he has been threatened by these globalists and he would talk about
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it specifically more, but he agreed to confidentiality and he doesn't want to break that confidentiality
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because he still likes to take meetings with these globalists so they can threaten to kill
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him and he can yell at them and he doesn't want to jeopardize that because that's a good
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working relationship.
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I don't break these NDAs with literal demon vampires who just have me in for meetings
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and threatened to kill me.
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I don't want to break those agreements because then what would I do?
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Maybe they have something important to say sometime.
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You never know.
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I mean, keep your friends close, Dan, but keep your enemies closer by never violating
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their NDAs.
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That's so stupid.
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I can't believe someone would hear that and be like, yeah, it makes sense.
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So I also love that.
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Larry, we'll talk to you soon.
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Love you buddy.
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Oh man.
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That's so fucking stupid.
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Do you understand now though, like when I was telling you that they keep playing the
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music that I was like, this seems weird.
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Do you agree with me?
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Like, cause you look, you see, I've never heard this.
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I've never heard the same song this many times.
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But you seem, you seem to be a little bit like a hesitant to accept my conclusion that
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it seemed weird.
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Do you?
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Oh no.
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Well, I mean, you get the point that I'm saying, I get the point where I get the point that
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you're saying it seems, I, I, it doesn't seem weird to me because the level of incompetence
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is established at such a high level that it's like, man, they just don't know how to change
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the track.
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I can't tell what the explanation is, but there's something.
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It could just be, they accidentally put their iTunes on repeat and they didn't know how
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to change it.
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But the problem with that is that it's not the only music that's played.
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It's played a lot, but there's other music like in this next clip, Alex comes back from
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break listening to music from the good, the bad and the ugly, and it makes him say something
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really fucking weird.
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It's a really great movie.
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It has that unreality that makes it reality.
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So that's Alex clearly articulating this, this sort of weirdness that he has about fiction
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and reality.
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There's this, there's an unreality to the movie that makes it real.
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What makes it real is just how fictional it is.
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So Larry is gone, but Alex is still talking about this Buck thing for a little bit.
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They can't stop.
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Look at Schiff.
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That's not just Nichols saying that.
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That's in the news.
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He was at all those parties with Ed Buck.
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These are a bunch of drug addict perverts.
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Look at Schiff.
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Look at him.
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It's not just Nichols saying that.
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It's news articles that have, like Larry is the only source saying it.
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Of course.
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It's great.
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News.
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News.
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Like true pundit.
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We're doing it, Dan.
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We can believe in the media, which I of course have been screaming that you shouldn't believe
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at all ever.
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No, no, no.
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But this media is good.
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Never, never believe the media.
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They're all lying to you.
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They are always lying to you.
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You cannot trust them.
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This time even they're saying it.
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This is the good media.
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Yeah.
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The true pundit media.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Media is only bad if they have fact checkers.
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That's a good point.
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So Alex rambles a bit about evil and how he's not into it.
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That's the description on every one of our, for April Fools, you should go back and edit
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every one of the podcast descriptions.
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Alex rambles about evil.
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So he's moving away from the devil.
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Yeah.
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Anything corrupt or evil that I was ever into now is a joke and I'm pulling away by light
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years away from the devil, accelerating away.
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Satan's behind me.
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And I just want to take my children and your children and all these wonderful spirits that
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are good, gentle creatures with us into the universe forever and justice and freedom and
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away from these fallen twisted entities.
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Let's get out of here.
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Let's go get behind me.
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Satan.
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Listen to what Christ said.
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Think how hardcore that is.
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Get out of my way.
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I'm leaving.
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I'm jumping.
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I'm gone.
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Away from Ed Buck, away from Adam Schiff, away from Aleister Crowley, away from Satan,
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away from Hillary Clinton, away, away, away, away, away.
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We want to go away.
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We want to leave you.
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We want you out of our presence.
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All right.
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I want to give you guys a chance because I'm really tempted, but I need to spend some time
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with the family.
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I got a lot of big projects.
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I'm up here working tomorrow already on projects and plans and the big things to fight the
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globalist and I'm excited about all this.
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Get ready to sell my house.
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I can fund these projects, which is I'm glad to do because that's what that energy is stored
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up to do.
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But I want money because it's a weapon system and it's because I can block these enemies
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attacks with it and then I can carry out operations against them.
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So we got products you need.
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Everybody should get DNA for us.
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Everybody should get X two lawsuits are not going well.
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No, I'm sorry.
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He's funding new projects.
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I apologize.
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Sure.
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So for a long time, Alex has said that if he has to, he's willing to sell his house
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to fund the info war.
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But this is literally the first time I've heard him talk about it as something he's
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actually doing.
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I don't know if I believe him because Alex is a liar and it's in the middle of him doing
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an ad pivot.
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So it possibly pretty likely that that's just him trying to create more incentive for people
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to give him money.
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But assuming that that's not a lie, this is a very, very bad sign for Alex.
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There's no way that selling his house could provide enough capital for him to run info
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wars for very long.
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So this would just be a matter of him trying to buy a few months at best.
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The reason I say that is because Alex has made it clear that it costs tens of millions
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of dollars to run info wars each year.
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It's a complicated business with a gigantic studio where rent is not low, tons of bandwidth
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costs, an entire supplement business with a warehouse and distribution connected, a
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bunch of lawyers working on a ton of cases.
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I don't know if tens of millions, that figure is correct, but I feel like it could be close
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given how many moving parts info wars has.
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The most expensive home sale ever in Austin was a gigantic mansion that went for $21.8
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million.
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And currently the most expensive house on the market has an asking price of $14.9 million.
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Alex obviously has a nice house and I bet it's worth a lot, but it's nowhere near the
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top end of Austin's luxury property market.
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If I had to guess, I would be surprised if his house was valued at more than a few million
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dollars.
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Alex has said that his family owns some land, but I have a hard time imagining that his
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parents who are still alive would allow him to sell off acreage that's been handed down
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generationally just so he can keep paying the legal fees that his radio show has racked
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up.
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Plus, I think if that's what he was saying, he might phrase it differently.
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Ultimately, I don't know what to think here.
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If he's saying that he's selling his house when he's not, it's just a crass and manipulative
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marketing ploy.
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I think that's possible.
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If he's actually selling his house, then his show is not going to make it another six months.
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It's not like Alex is just in a tough patch and he needs to get through it and then everything
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will be fine.
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He's fucked in the long run, whether he makes it through this crunch or not.
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His reach is non-existent.
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His best friend who he changed his career for is going to prison.
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He's crawling back to Larry Nichols and Steve Pacenik.
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His attempts to dodge the Sandy Hook lawsuit are all failing.
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The president he's made the center of his career is getting impeached.
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Those aren't little obstacles in the road.
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They're major problems that $6 million is probably not going to solve.
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Again, I still think he's probably full of shit, but if he's not, he's in serious trouble.
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I would probably advise him against selling his house.
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He needs that house to record his podcast in.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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How are we going to keep the show going when Info Wars crumbles?
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This is such one of those moments like when you're being blackmailed where it's just like
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you got to admit sooner or later that whatever it is that they have on you is not as damaging
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as continuing this whole game.
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Just get it out, get it done.
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You'll be okay.
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Alex just needs to call it.
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Let's look at this differently.
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Let's say you've fallen for the Nigerians game.
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Fair enough.
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That is a good way of putting it.
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Don't keep going.
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Don't keep going.
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You're in the sunk cost fallacy.
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He genuinely thinks that there's a way out of this for him and there just isn't.
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It's probably not.
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Outside of scaling back and seeing if you could regrow a little bit somehow.
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I think that's probably his only real ploy.
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Dumping money into Info Wars at this point, short of finding an angel investor who will
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give you millions of dollars, millions and millions of dollars to keep doing what you're
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doing is a fool's game.
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Alex at this point starts to speculate about Trump.
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When I was talking about this stuff and Alex bringing these guys back in seems indicative
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of a move away from Trump, it was a feeling that I was having.
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When I got to this point in the episode, I really feel like maybe it's more than just
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my feelings.
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People say, why are you pissed at Trump?
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I know the Democrats are able.
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I know they're trying to destroy everybody in the country and trying to bankrupt the
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nation, trying to sabotage the dollar.
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I mean, I know that.
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And then the president sits up there and tweets at these people and eloquently describes what
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crooks they are.
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Wonderful.
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You know, does Trump secretly work with the deep state and holds our hand like he holds
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money's hand at hospice?
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Yes.
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Not saying that, but, you know, you could start saying that because it's true if Hillary
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was in doing all this, nobody put up with it.
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That's true.
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Also, you see if Trump's in there, God, you're so close and all this persecution and censorship
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and control goes into place.
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And then he always, you know, acts like he's fighting it, but never really does anything
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about it to stop it.
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Let's not get distracted by the details.
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Stay on there.
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Stay on target.
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You're doing this.
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Come on.
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I don't know.
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It's just food for thought, because Roger Stone did nothing wrong except get the president
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elected.
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Well, illegally.
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And maybe Trump's do the right thing and pardon him right away.
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That's good.
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So you hear this here, the introduction of thoughts about, hey, you know what, maybe
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Trump was put in in order to pacify and neutralize elements of the right wing that are anti deep
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state.
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That's what you need to get there.
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That's fine.
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Because if Hillary was in office, not, we wouldn't put up with this.
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Yes, you nailed it.
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You absolutely nailed it.
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Come on.
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Put two and two together.
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We're only doing it because we're holding out hope that he's going to enact the white
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nationalist dictatorship.
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Land it.
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I mean, it's still, the end result still isn't good thinking, but it is what it is.
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So I mean, he's just at the end of this episode, he's just starting to recognize these things
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and I'll take a few calls now, but I'm going to briefly at the start of the next segment,
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have a message for president Trump, because I know what Trump's doing, I know what he's
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being told.
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And I know the calculus that's going on his brain about Roger Stone, and this is a lot
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bigger than Roger Stone, obviously.
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And that calculus is not good.
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Roger Stone is not a fart in church that we just try to pretend didn't happen.
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Trump needs to run towards this and pardon Stone and point out how it's all fiasco, just
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like the fake impeachment.
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At a press conference and we went and checked, reportedly, he didn't talk about Stone.
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And just like he didn't talk about Julian Assange anymore after he told Julian Assange
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to release the info.
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And that's a lack of loyalty.
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And it's not good.
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You know, we've been right about everything we told Trump.
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All the moles, everything, and, you know, instead, he just brings in all those candy
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asses because everybody's trying to play it safe.
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Well, playing it safe got us where we are not playing it safe.
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Got Trump elected.
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I mean, that's also illegal.
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That's got the political power and right to stop all this and leaving us twisted out in
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the wind is not good.
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I'm going to stop right there.
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You start to get the feeling that it's what Alex is doing is sort of waking up from being
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manipulated.
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He's being red pilled, if you will.
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He's starting to recognize like none of this shit that I thought was going on is going
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on.
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Now, some of that could be the way you soft launch a narrative, you know, like you soft
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launch pivoting away by pretending that you're waking up from this deception that you've
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fallen under.
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Or it could be real.
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I don't know what it is, but you can clearly see that Alex is starting to way more explicitly
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talk about like this probably is not good.
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My theory, he is in a cult and this is as close as he's going to get and the next week
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is going to be him getting right back on it.
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I mean, this has happened over and over again, but also you have to recall when he did that
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thing after the Syria bombing, we know from going over it, Alex turned on Trump drunkenly
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on air that night.
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That's true.
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Next day, he talked to Roger who got him back in line.
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Right.
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Roger's not going to do that this time.
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That's true.
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Who does he have around him?
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He has people like Joel Skousen.
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Joel Skousen isn't going to get him back on Trump's team.
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Like who the carpet dog isn't going to get him back on Trump's team.
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No, I don't think, I don't think, which is strange because everybody knows he listened
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to the doc, right?
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I don't think the reintegrative Trump network or whatever is there to like get Alex back
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into the fold.
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If he starts drifting, he doesn't have the cult near him anymore.
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It doesn't seem, it doesn't seem like that influence is necessarily there.
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And for that reason, I think it's possible that some of these feelings will grow more
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than they would have with Roger present.
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Yeah.
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If Roger was there, he would have been like, Hey, Trump and I go way back.
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We fucked the same ladies together, but it's not weird.
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It's not weird like that.
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We've gotten into some fights in the past, but we always made up, but we didn't double
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team.
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Not in a weird way though.
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Right.
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It's almost weird that they didn't.
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I have no comment.
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I think that it is entirely possible that this is going nowhere and Alex will get back
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in line.
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That's entirely possible because I could see a situation where Trump does some sort of
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overture.
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Yeah.
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That's that wins Alex and the, uh, these dumb right wing fucks back.
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It's possible, but I also see it as entirely possible that this will be enough and Alex
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will get where he needs to go.
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Uh, and one of the reasons I think that is very often you'll see Alex's narratives that
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he's pushing reflected in callers.
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So he gets a caller and here's what this guy has to say.
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Let's talk to Chris in Tennessee.
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Go ahead, Chris.
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You're on the air.
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How's it going Alex, man?
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I am a fired up and just in war mode.
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You don't sound like it.
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I hear you.
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Um, I'm a, I'm a little saddened about what's going on.
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I'm thinking at a certain point, when do we admit that Trump isn't a white hat?
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I mean, the indictments haven't come and what you said, you hit the nail on the head earlier.
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I think like, would it be smarter for the globalist to just have Hillary in or would
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it be smarter for them to have Trump in and just act like he's on our side?
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Well, I don't think that, but we have to start introducing that idea because it, because
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I mean, I think he's just surrounded by the swamp.
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He listens to advisors.
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Oh, don't, don't say much about Roger because you know, he's been convicted.
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That ties you to stuff during the impeachment.
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Oh, give me a break.
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The whole thing is a fraud.
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Everybody knows it.
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Call it.
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Uh, and all their attempts to say, don't talk about whistleblower names.
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Don't talk about jurors.
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All of that is just pure mafia tactics.
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He was just talking about the press conference.
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So talk about Roger and it's just a sign of what's going on.
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He's done a lot of stuff like saying the America's good and it's good to have borders that the
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globalist don't like.
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I mean, he has done a lot, has good instincts in many ways.
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And I don't think it's a bad by saying two things and they've done an assessment of him.
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But you're smart.
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Trump is not a wimp, but he's, he's not as tough as he says he is when it comes to easily
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manipulated.
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It seems like maybe that's a really big deal on Alex's show.
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If Alex says he's not tough, that might be the final straw.
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That is something that you do not say about like Alex's show and his world is so built
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on, like the protection of masculine imagery.
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Trump is a bull.
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He's out there just wrecking shop on people.
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So strong.
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The idea that Steve, cause Steve was talking about that when he came back on the show that
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he's really not that tough.
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It's a facade that he puts on.
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That's why he needs a Malani to fire people.
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So Alex, you know, being like, you know, Trump isn't that tough is a huge slap in the face.
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Whereas that might be something in another context, someone else saying it, you're like,
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oh, it's an interesting thought for Alex to say it.
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It's equivalent to him being like, he's not a man.
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It is honestly, honestly saying he should shove ISIS up his dirty asshole is like, oh,
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that's just gentle ribbing amongst friends saying that you're not tough is fill your
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hand territory.
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So this caller and Alex keep talking and Alex brings up to like, uh, Hey, you know, people
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who stand up for Trump, they end up getting in trouble.
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And this caller brings up something that I think is so fucking hilarious.
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It catches Alex.
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So off guard.
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Look, look, Giuliani stood up for him and went after the deep state and they're trying
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to indict him.
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I guess he'll just, you know, I'm not just cutting Giuliani loose, give me a break.
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Well don't you think Giuliani's kind of shady?
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He was probably involved in covering up nine 11 when he was mayor.
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Oh, there's no doubt about the season we're in now is a smart guy.
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He's corrupt.
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I don't think he's out to get America, but he was enrolled in nine 11.
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Whoops.
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Uh, Alex, don't you remember how this is the guy?
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Uh, no, he was totally involved.
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Do you hear what he said there too?
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He's like, I'm more concerned with the season we're in.
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Yeah, it's exactly what I heard.
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This guy did nine 11 helped cover it up.
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Yes, absolutely.
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But he likes Trump now.
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That's the season we're in.
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Come on, man.
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All that other stuff is not supposed to be important anymore.
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Continuity.
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What are we doing?
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There's not Canon.
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Hey, look, I know I yell all the time about the mainstream media thinking you have no
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memory, but you're not supposed to have a memory.
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Yeah.
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Come on, quit it.
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It's your career on nine 11 and all of this shit.
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Yes, absolutely.
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A hundred percent.
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Forget about Giuliani and all this stuff.
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I back that.
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It's not important.
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He's Trump's lawyer now and it's great.
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I know you remember the original version, but McClunky.
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So we just got to do the same thing with that Rick Perry thing.
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It's the same thing.
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Like all this stuff is such bullshit and it's so awesome to hear somebody like one of these
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callers who is like on board with Alex and Alex feels like, like a false sense of security
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rightly brings up.
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Hey, are we supposed to not like Giuliani as well?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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But now I, this is a tough one.
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Yeah.
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Hold on.
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I'm going to need somebody to give me a cookie while I munch this over at the end of the
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fucking clip.
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Alex saying, I don't think he's trying to screw over America.
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Yeah.
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How do you square that?
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I, well, I mean, because he helped stage nine 11, it got us into the war in Iraq and he's
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not trying to screw over America, right?
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So this is the end of the, I guess what you would call the substantive Roger Stone, uh,
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uh, pageant, right?
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I don't know.
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On the 14th, you have Alex really acting irresponsibly, whether or not a stone sent him a message
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or not.
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Yeah.
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I have no position on that because I can't possibly have a position on that, but I can
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say whatever message Roger sent him, Alex deeply editorialized in a way that jeopardized
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Rogers freedom.
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So after the, uh, the verdict, then on the 15th, Alex responds to the verdict being passed
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by, um, marketing heavily and signaling, uh, uh, very clear interest in exploring the idea
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that Trump is not good and that it might be time that we got a jump ship.
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So that's pretty interesting.
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That is pretty interesting.
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But now, uh, he also talks to Roger's friend, Tyler Nixon.
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I don't really give a shit.
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It's just basically Roger's cool and he's fine.
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Um, there's another narrative that comes up and that is, I'll let, I'll let Alex explain
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it.
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Okay.
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And running man, the written by Stephen King turned into a movie government can show one
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person that really killed somebody, but then put somebody else's face on it with computers
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that set in the future.
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Wow.
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I think it's even set in like 2020 or something, but that's how crazy all this is.
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This morning I'm working out and my workout partner goes, look at this funny video that
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your son Rex tweeted.
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And as soon as I saw the video, I called Rex up this morning, he's 17, about to finish
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high school.
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And I said, you said that I sent you this video and he said, Oh, I just did that as
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a joke.
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And I said, well, okay, somebody is taking a blue screen of me.
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That's footage that I shot a while back to send to carpe donk to him.
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I've talked about this on air so he can make some memes.
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We did a lot of the funny things I've done on air over the years so he could put my head
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and body on different things.
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And then I guess somebody in the process is, is, has sent out this, this green screen video
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trying to track down now I'm told I'll be in court over this for, uh, corrupting miners.
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So Alex's son tweeted out a green screen video of Alex, uh, doing some rapping, a little
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bit of rapping and in the background, it's like a booty dancers.
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It's just like women shaking their ass and stuff.
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And so his son tweeted this out.
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So that's one state, uh, part of this right now.
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The second part of it is Alex says that someone put this over the green screen footage and
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he's trying to sort out who did it.
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I got one culprit carpe donk donk.
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Yeah.
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It's very obvious.
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You sent that you gave him that.
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So if you sent him that and no one else, presumably, I mean, if you sent it to other people, then
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check in with that too.
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But if you only sent it to carpe donk to him, he knows who he gave it to right now we got
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more suspects.
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Okay.
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Whatever the case is, this investigation runs through one man and his name is carpe donk
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to him.
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So check in with that guy.
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Don't blame anybody else for this.
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This is a little prank.
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I'm going to have to go with deep state on this.
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Yeah.
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It's probably the deep state.
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I'm going to have to go with the deep state.
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Yeah.
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God, he sounds like such an old man.
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Yeah.
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That is, that is weird.
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Old grandpa.
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But so now I find out that my image can be put on the internet whenever they want.
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And my son tweeted, my son, two people to talk to your son and carpe donk donk.
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Don't bring this on your radio show.
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And now that you mentioned your son on the air, his Twitter account has been taken away
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from him.
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So now Alex seems to think that no one understands what green screens are and this video is going
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to send him right to jail.
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Jesus Christ.
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I'm going to have to explain in court.
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And I said, what if I was in the street with a bunch of women shaking their butts, they're
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not naked.
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Well it's just not good for kids to have, you know, to be out with their dad, with the
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women.
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It's like some 1990s video someone put behind me and they won't understand it.
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No one does.
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I don't even know what to do anymore.
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They're on the news saying it's illegal to say who the damn whistleblower is when it's
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not.
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So everyone understands green screen.
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I don't think you'll have a very tough time with that.
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You know, that is, that is, I do, I do feel for people who are just absolutely unprepared
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for technology of any kind.
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Like I mean, imagine, you know, you're, my grandpa was born in the 1920s.
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She lived through the great depression.
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She couldn't possibly have imagined that somebody could just take her face and make it say things.
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Like of course she'd begin to cry and like lose her shit.
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That's too big for her.
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But I don't think Alex is overwhelmed by the actual technology.
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No, absolutely not.
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Everyone else.
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Exactly.
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He does.
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Yes.
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Which, which proves he himself is overwhelmed by all the technology.
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To an extent.
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I mean, this is a zero to me.
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I mean, as it, as it relates to the actual video, I think it's just a dumb Alex meme.
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I don't really give a shit about it.
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But as it relates to Alex's like covering of it, it's weird because he seems to be legitimately
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concerned that there will be a consequence for this green screened video to the extent
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where I feel like he's trying to get ahead of the story because he ends up playing it
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on his show.
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It makes me feel like he, in my mind, here's what he thinks is going to happen in court.
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He's going to go to court.
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He's going to play that video and then he's going to play the video that was super imposed
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on it.
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So you can see both of them playing side by side and it'll prove beyond a shadow of a
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doubt that of course this one timestamped from 30 years ago could not be the same video
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and the jury will be like, nope, looks the same guilty because they don't understand
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it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So like I said, he's trying to get ahead of the story and here's that carpet dogs and
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wanted me to do some of the funny things I've said over the year over the years and I have
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sung to this song before I think once and that's it.
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So they put me over it.
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It's my crime.
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I'll probably go to federal prison for it.
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Here it is.
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Booty booty booty booty booty everywhere.
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Rocking everywhere.
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Rocking everywhere.
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Oh yeah.
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This is embarrassing.
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This is embarrassing.
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Not least of which because we already got there first carpe fucking dunked him.
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Oh, this is so embarrassing.
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We got there first buddy.
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So on this episode where Roger has been convicted, Alex spends a considerable amount of time
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doing damage control about a meme.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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That cannot possibly hurt him.
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He's doing damage control about something that can provide zero damage.
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It can only actually hurt him in the court of public opinion among like more puritanical
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elements of his audience.
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If he's concerned, who don't understand green screen and if he's concerned about that, that's
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also tragic.
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I'm going to, I'm going to lose out on my don't understand about green screen market.
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Yeah.
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So like I said, he talks to Tyler Nixon and it's mostly just Roger didn't do anything
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wrong.
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He's being jammed up.
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Of course.
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I don't really care.
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It's not really all that interesting.
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So I'm going to end on a call that Alex gets because I like to end episodes sometimes on
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upsetting notes and this call is very much upsetting.
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I know we all want to do things.
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Like I said, I am active duty law officer, but it says there's a time for everything
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and we've been legal and lawful and look what it's got us.
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God put Trump in to give us a second chance.
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Has he done good things?
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Yes, but he has held, he has allowed rod people like Roger Stone and WikiLeaks and everything
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else to go on for us to be, have our hands tied behind our backs while we think we're
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in a fight while we're losing and it's time to get hardcore and it's time to get extreme
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because we're losing our country.
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I'm predicting Trump will be impeached because look what they've done.
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They've silenced you.
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I've been banned from Facebook and Twitter multiple times.
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Roger Stone has been convicted.
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Everything is falling apart.
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He has.
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Trump has not stood up for the internet censorship.
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We cannot speak anymore.
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We've lost our country.
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As you've said today, we live in clown world.
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Now is the time to make a stand because if we don't, Alex, I'm afraid we're not going
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to have a country to come home to.
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So he references clown world, of course, a, a neo Nazi meme.
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Yeah.
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And, and you know what?
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That could not be more fucked up because we got a law enforcement or at least someone
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who's saying he's a cop and what is he suggesting?
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We've tried doing this the legal way.
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We've tried doing all that and it's not working.
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We need to get extreme.
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So the only conclusion you can take away from that is let's do illegal shit.
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Yeah.
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And if you listen to Alex's show, what does that mean?
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Well, I generally think it means it's a reference to, uh, killing people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So if we've tried all of our legal and lawful options, clearly what we need to do is figure
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out more legal and lawful options.
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I think that's what he's trying to say.
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We need, he's saying we need to be more creative with the law.
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That's what he's describing.
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Dan.
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Sure.
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There's no way that a active duty law enforcement officer self-described, uh, with very keen
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neo Nazi ties would be interested in violence.
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Dan.
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See, this is the part where it's really interesting because I think that there is a dichotomy
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at play and I don't know how Alex can possibly work with it.
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And that is that there is this element of his audience.
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That is like, he's, they see the, uh, Roger being convicted and it's like, wow, it's time
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to get our guns.
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You know, there is no hope.
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Trump isn't going to do it.
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Therefore it's time to shoot.
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And I don't know how you, um, suppress that urge in your audience now because he's built
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it up over time.
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Like, Hey, Trump is our last hope.
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If it doesn't work out, then we have to go to the gun.
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Like that sort of thing has been a mainstay of his rhetoric for a long time.
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But simultaneously you start to see, like, I don't think that that's what Alex is experiencing
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in his transition because if he goes away from Trump, it's not necessarily, at least
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what I hear in this episode, I don't hear him being like calling for, since Trump didn't
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do it, we got to fucking start a civil war.
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I think that his attempts to focus on Hillary, his attempts to sort of remaneuver what he's
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doing, um, it could lend itself to more info war.
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So you have that and then you have this element of the audience.
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I don't know what you can do with it, but it doesn't seem good.
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This is, this is a, uh, that call is very scary.
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Not least of which, because combine that with Alex moving away from Trump, like anytime,
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you know, in, in regards to Trump world, uh, that we now exist in, we saw this bubble up
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in real time from this level on the right wing.
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We don't get Trump if it doesn't bubble up from down where we are right now.
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This desire for a autocratic dictator, right?
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This kind of thing bubbling up from below now, the idea of, well, we got to, we can't
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be on Trump's team.
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We need to be anti whomever, but we're no longer on Trump's team.
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We're no longer protecting him combined with the, we've lost complete faith in Trump.
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We need to start fucking guns out, uh, all day.
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If that is kind of the new dichotomy that the conservative party winds up breaking into,
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uh, some weird shit's going to go down.
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Yeah.
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But I think you're already seeing this like with the stuff with Nick Fuentes and his guys
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trying to attack, uh, the, uh, the, the turning point events, not attack, but yell at them
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and disrupt them.
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Minorly inconvenience though.
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Yeah.
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I think that schism is going to be real.
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And that's one of the things I think is most troubling about the possibility of Alex turning
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on Trump is it will radicalize further a certain segment of his audience and the direction
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that they're going to go is kind of expressed by this cop alleged absolutely.
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And so that, that's something where like, I never thought about this before, but, and
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I'm sure Alex hasn't either, but there is a part of his turning on Trump that like,
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it's a great responsibility for him.
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There is, there is, he doesn't do it the right way.
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A lot of people are going to die or at least theoretically, yeah.
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There is like a real possibility of like real damage that could be betrayed even by Alex.
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That means there's, that means we don't even have Alex in the info war anymore.
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It's just you and me.
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Well there.
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Yeah.
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Because if Trump can be shown to be a trader or whatever, then anybody can.
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Alex can all, you know, it's, uh, and where you go from there, what you choose to take
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as like a good source or, uh, that stuff is troubling.
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It's troubling to think how you could go, like what's worse.
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And that's what you would end up doing.
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That is, I mean it's, it's very predictable this going down, uh, the way it has when you,
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when you figure the, the power structures in the right wing have always been attempting
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to co-opt the, uh, lower classes by distracting them with race and cultural issues and so
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on and so forth in order to, to do all this shit.
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And by being able to channel that rage, they've been able to exist in a state of minority
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rule for fucking forever.
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And now the rage is kind of getting out of their control and they don't know how to react
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to it because half of them are that rage, you know, the power structure used to just
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be people controlling it and now half of them are just as crazy as everybody else.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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It's getting wild, man.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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When you say it's predictable, it's not that it is predictable, like I have no idea what's
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going to happen, but it's inevitable.
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Yeah.
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That we would get to this point.
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Yeah.
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And the, the tractioning of, of stuff is, uh, inevitable.
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Yeah.
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And we've always, yeah, we've always referenced it many times that in-group only gets smaller.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's troubling to think what, um, could happen as a consequence of Alex turning on
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Trump if he doesn't do it right.
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Yeah.
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And I honestly think that bringing back Steve and bringing back Larry and having Joel Skousen
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have a more prominent position in the show, if that is Alex trying to maneuver getting
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away from Trump, I think is incredibly responsible.
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I hate to say it.
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We will, we will upon a result.
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That's what he's doing.
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That is a way to sort of neutralize some of that stuff.
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We may wind up having to give Alex a kudos for safety.
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No, no, it's probably accidental.
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Yeah, I know.
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And in the same way, um, sort of doing it, uh, doing it in a way where you don't outright
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hate Trump and it's not like a violent break is also more responsible than, um, as a, as
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a snapping of a twig, uh, where you just freak out and scream at Trump, the gradual disillusionment
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might be a much softer landing in some ways, but whatever the case, I mean, I hate to make
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predictions cause I'm always wrong, but we'll see what happens.
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I guess the biggest problem I have is just the, the way that they had to portray it against
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Hillary with it being like our last hope and so on and so forth.
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So now it's, it's very much that like we, everybody gets disillusioned with the political
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process.
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Yeah.
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Everybody winds up thinking that politics is going to be able to do something and then
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it fails you in some way or that's the system.
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It's designed that way.
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Yep.
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So if you're the guy that you have touted as the last guy turns out to disillusion you,
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why bother with the next election?
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Why bother with it?
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The last guy is nothing.
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That's how disillusionment becomes despair almost and a despair in the hands of people
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who are, let's say inclined towards militias and the worldview that, that, um, is expressed
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by these anti-communist, uh, propagandists that, you know, the legacy that includes the
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Turner diaries and siege and all of this, like that kind of despair is weaponized really
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easily or at least weaponized is the right word.
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It becomes a weapon really easily.
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And so I hope that that's not the case.
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Anyway, I think that's the big difference between our two sides.
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Uh, when we got faced with this kind of despair, we started a podcast.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, so I don't know.
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We'll see what happens in the future.
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Um, and it's really interesting to see that like, this is how Alex responds, um, uh, narratively
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and also like he was sure he was going to get found guilty.
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So there's no like real surprise.
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No, there's no need for a freak out necessarily the only real moment of like non normal Alex
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yelling freak out is when someone didn't have a story that he needed and had to go to go
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to a special report, ongoing problems with the production is fantastic.
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So I mean, I think that's really interesting.
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We'll see what happens.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.