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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan
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I love your room
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Indeed we are, Dan!
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Jordan
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Dan?
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Jor-Dan
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Have you ever won a trivia contest?
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Uh, yeah, I mean bar trivia and stuff like that
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Bar trivia?
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Yeah, yeah
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Have you ever had one that you were particularly proud of?
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That you were like, this one was all me
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I had a team and they were fucking dead weight
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Not necessarily, but I can think of two instances that stick out
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One very shameful, and then one that was a victory
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Okay
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The shameful one was I was out with old buddy Nate Burrows
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Okay, alright
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And some of our mutual friends
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We went to a trivia night and one of the questions was
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Who was picked over Michael Jordan in the NBA draft?
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And I had got it in my head, it's Len Bias
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Because I think I'd see that after Bias, sort of, in the documentary
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I was convinced that it was incorrect
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It was Len Bias, okay
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I was certain
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So sure
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That was not correct
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Okay
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But, so that brought great shame to my family name
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My surname
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Yeah, well, naturally
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And then another time my brother was in town
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And we went to a trivia thing together
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I think also with Nate Burrows
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He likes to go to trivia
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Nate Burrows? Yeah, hey!
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It's a fun thing to do
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But we went and my brother is substantially smarter than me
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He knows way more than me about a broad range of topics
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Right
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Talking art, especially art stuff
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Oh, well yeah
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Aesthetic things, architecture, a lot of history
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He knows a lot
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And so he was getting almost all of these questions right
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Yeah
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Then there was a question about the book
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The Picture of Dorian Gray
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Okay, oh yeah
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And he thought the name of it
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Stepped into your fucking wheelhouse
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Not really
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He still knows much more about literature
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But he thought the name of it was The Portrait of Dorian Gray
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But I knew it was The Picture of Dorian Gray
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I was vindicated on that
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Yes, yeah
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I don't know if we ended up winning trivia that night
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But that was a big win to me
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I gotcha
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It's the picture
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It's the picture
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Right
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So anyway, I know a lot about Oscar Wilde books
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Or at least one thing
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I know the name of one of them
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And I also know a lot about Alex Jones
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And I know a little bit about the first and nothing about the second
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Exactly
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So Jordan, today we got a very interesting episode ahead of us
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We are in the present day
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And I had intended to cover a number of episodes
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But there's no real reason to
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We're just going over October 11th, 2019
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Which is last Friday's episode
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Okay
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There's some interesting stuff on here
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There's some... Alex is real weird
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I think he's hungover from the Trump rally
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Right
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That's my theory
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Alright, okay
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Even though he wasn't there
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He was probably sipping a few while...
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Having a joyful time
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Either that or he just didn't sleep or something
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I don't know, he's in a fucked up space
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Okay
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But we'll get to that in a moment
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That means that we're going to get a TJ quote, right?
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No, we don't get any Thomas Jefferson quotes
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But we do get a retelling of what I would describe as a very popular folk tale
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A regular tale, okay
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So that brings me great joy
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Perfect
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Something else that brings me great joy is taking a little moment to say thank you
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To some people who have signed up and are supporting the show
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So first of all, John, thank you so much
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You're now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, John
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No H on that, John
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We're getting a murder of Johns these days
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It's true
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A...
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Jungle full of Johns
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Oh no
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Couldn't come up with another J word
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Thank you, a jalopy full of Johns
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Nope, not a J
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Next, what?
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Yeah, I'm just kidding
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Okay
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Taylor, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you so much, Taylor
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Next, Nikola, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, Nikola
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Next, Phosphor, thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, Phosphor
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Next, Andy, thank you so much
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You are now policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, Andy
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And finally
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Boing-a-boing-a whoopsie knickers
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Thank you so much
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You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you
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Thank you so much
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Boing-a-boing-a whoopsie New York knickerbockers
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We appreciate it very much.
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I'd also like to take a moment to say happy birthday out there to Crosby.
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Your buddy Matt got in touch with me and wanted me to say thank you on Monday
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because your birthday was over the weekend and I completely fucked that up.
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Well, yeah.
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Super distracted by the the Boston bombing stuff for our Monday episode.
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Right.
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But I wanted to make it up for you and me and Jordan, we're gonna harmonize.
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We're gonna sing happy birthday to you.
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We are absolutely not.
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It's in the public domain now.
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We can't.
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No, this is not a thing that we can't.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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This sends precedent.
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We already had a terrible idea of shouting out every fucking donator.
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Now we're starting to sing happy birthday for everyone who emails.
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We have enough listeners that we would have to do this every episode.
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Well, Crosby, I wanted to sing.
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Jordan won't let me.
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So happy birthday to you.
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You'll just have to rely on Still, Snash and Young for the rest of your night.
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Thank you so much for listening and enjoying the show.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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And finally, we have to take a moment to address and say thank you to somebody else who has
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you know, we've had some technological issues on this show in the past.
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We've lost some episodes to computer glitches and what have you.
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And somebody noticed that and they were so they went out of their way, went above and beyond.
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Incredibly generous.
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In terms of sporting the show and helping us patch up some of these technological
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problems that we've been having and we'd like to take a moment to to recognize
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and celebrate that and thank show our appreciation synonyms.
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But there's only one thing that we can do and that is bestow upon them
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their own special title among wonks, technocrats, raptor princesses.
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And they have actually created their own title.
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I have a very special drop for them.
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So, Christy, thank you so much.
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You are now officially officially the Black Dragon Queen of knowledge, right?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I'm not metrosexual.
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I want to take care of my skin, dammit.
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I'm as high as a kite.
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This country's stupid.
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I'm a really good guy.
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They literally attack our testicles.
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Hanging with the devil, man.
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You know, it's fun.
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Get down with Satan.
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Oh, yeah.
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The queen just flipped her dictator switch.
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Thank you so much, Christy.
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Thank you very much, Christy.
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You are now the Black Dragon Queen.
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Do not flip your dictator switch, please.
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But thank you very much.
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We appreciate your assistance and help and it means a lot.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, we're going to get now into October 11th, which is...
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It's an interesting episode in many ways.
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Like I said, there's a retelling of a folktale that I'm super excited for you to hear
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because it's weird.
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But it also, there's a weird thing that's going on where we've seen Alex kind of getting
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more mad with Trump.
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We've seen him having Joel Skousen on more regularly, who is himself quite a Trump critic.
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As much as he is fine with a lot of the things Trump is doing, he thinks that Trump's an
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idiot.
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Well, yeah.
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He thinks that Trump is giving lip service to a lot of ideas that the anti-communists
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and weird extreme right-wingers and John Birch types were into.
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But Trump is too stupid to understand the geopolitical situation.
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That's Skousen's take.
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Yeah, he's not far off.
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Right.
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If he was actually smart and knew what to do, I would love him.
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He prefers a competent fascist dictator?
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Yes.
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I think that sounds right.
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Yeah.
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But those things, I think, are indications that we see that Alex is hedging a little
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bit.
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He's trying to have a little bit of what he's doing accommodate the possibility of
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leaving Trump.
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Right, right, right.
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And so when we start the show, we hear sort of those tones echoing in Alex's freestyle
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rhetoric.
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Male bullheadedness and Americana strength.
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But an echo from the past.
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A piece of Americana.
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A lost relic.
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But if we don't ourselves rediscover what made America great and if we ourselves don't
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say no to the bullying and the control of the globalists, we're going to lose everything.
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So you got him here saying, you know, Trump's not going to save us over a very poignant
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song.
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It seems a little on the nose.
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Yeah, it was almost a little too on the nose.
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Almost preplanned.
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Yeah, it does feel that way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Some of Alex's music choices are very incidental, but that one had an air of, like, he requested
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that because he's going to give a speech about how Trump's not going to save us.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, and that's possible.
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I think it's interesting because I feel like a lot more Republicans are having their disillusionment
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with Trump moment the same way we did with Obama, where it's like, oh, we thought you
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were this thing and you're doing this thing.
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That really sucks.
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Yeah, and you're going to hear a little bit more of that, too.
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And it's an interesting thing how that kind of is universal in some ways, the disillusionment.
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Because, you know, you see that a little bit from people who believe stuff like the QAnon
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theory.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, this isn't going to happen.
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No, no, no, no.
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And I think Alex is having a little bit of that moment, that, like, reality doesn't match
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up with the stories that I've been telling.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I need to find a way to still work this scam that I'm doing.
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I thought if we got this guy in, he would at least create an approximation of the reality
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of the stories that I'm telling you so I can kind of hammer it into people that like that.
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And he does, through his words, but not through the actions.
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No.
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I'm not getting the results that I need to validate the, like, he's our hero kind of
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thing.
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So, uh, Pat Buchanan, who I had, I just thought was dead, honestly.
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I really thought he was dead.
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I thought he died, like, I thought he died like six years ago.
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Why?
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Yeah, maybe there's a Mandela effect situation.
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Does he know that he's still around?
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Yeah.
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Doesn't he wake up every morning like, really, again?
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So, Pat Buchanan has come out and written an op-ed, apparently, about how impeachment
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may be inevitable.
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And Alex has some thoughts about this.
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Pat Buchanan has the article out from WorldEndDaily.com.
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Is impeachment now inevitable?
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And you look at it, you say the first whistleblower's a hoax, the second whistleblower's a hoax.
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It's all hearsay garbage.
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We have the transcript, but then why do you smell blood in the wind?
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I'll tell you why we smell blood in the wind.
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It's because you can smell the piss in the wind.
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Ah, that's why.
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You can smell the pants.
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I'm gonna need a far more explanation for what that means.
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It just means the globalists are pissing their pants because they're scared of...
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Oh, okay.
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That's what he's trying to say?
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Yeah.
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That is not a good metaphor for that.
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It's not good.
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No.
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But yeah, the globalists are super afraid, and that's why there's fake whistleblowers
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who are coming out.
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They're all hoaxes, yadda yadda.
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Sure, sure.
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We have the transcripts, except we don't.
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Right.
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Furthermore, yadda yadda yadda.
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Yadda yadda.
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It's a very, very weak defense of a lot of this stuff.
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But I mean, what else are you gonna do?
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Seeing all we are is piss in the wind?
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All we are is piss in the wind.
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I do...
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It's one of the...
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I mean, I'm only human, but it's one of my failures as a critic that I love how Alex
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says piss.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I find it really gross.
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I really find it disgusting.
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He over-articulates the pee.
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Pee-as.
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Yeah, no, I hate it.
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I don't know why.
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Like, no one can say piss like Alex.
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No, and repeating it or trying to makes me feel gross.
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If that is the legacy of his career, I think he is.
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He's done one good thing in his broadcast.
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Yeah, you know, not all of us get to do that in our lives, Dan, and that's something to
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be proud of, I think.
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Mispronouncing a word.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's not mispronouncing.
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It's over-pronouncing.
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It's putting a little, uh, put a little snake on it.
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So, Jordan, early on in the episode, we get to this retelling of a classic folktale.
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John Henry.
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No.
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Wanna keep guessing?
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I don't know.
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Are we talking American folktale?
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Yeah, I think so.
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I think so.
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It might have some Brothers Grimm history behind it.
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I don't know.
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It's The Three Little Pigs.
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Oh, okay.
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So I'm just gonna let this play.
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Alex, this is where I started to think he might be hung over.
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Okay.
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You already heard those super long pauses that are just him trying to figure out what
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to do.
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He's got no momentum.
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Everything is like gruff, kind of a distant speech.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But here, Alex, I think he starts by trying to tell the normal story of The Three Little
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Pigs, and then it gets into, like, maybe a sequel.
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The third little pig went to the John Birch Society and really figured out this whole
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racism problem.
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No, it's just weird.
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This is just weird.
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And now the system looks at this big rotting facade and Trump's there with confidence
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trying to prop it up.
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But that's not enough.
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Let's talk about the country.
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Sure.
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And they decide that they can huff and they can puff and they can blow our house down.
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In fact, this house of straw, the wolf doesn't even need to open the door or come down the
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chimney or blow it down.
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Because if the three little pigs were inside and they had any baby piglets, they would
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go out and feed the wolf those piglets and say, eat our babies just so you eat us later.
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In fact, the wolf even lets them pretend they're wolves.
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They kind of dress up in wolves outfits and pull up.
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He doesn't give them any of the flesh.
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But if he's full, he takes a dump.
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Seriously, he needs the family.
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They do.
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They pretend they're wolves.
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Then they lick the wolf's ass and they go and wolf says, hey, have some more babies
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for me.
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I want to I want to eat those.
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And they say, yes, a boss.
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Because you see, they figured out the one way they're going to get to live.
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Is if they just keep having those babies for the wolf, but see, the wolf figured out how
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to make babies without a mommy and a daddy.
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So we're pretty, we're pretty far off track in terms of the story of the three little
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pigs.
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It's so fucking good.
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That is amazing.
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That is really amazing.
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How do you turn the three little pigs into a story about the pigs being willing to sacrifice
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their babies to wolves?
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The wolves.
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The wolf is the globalist.
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Right.
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No, I get that.
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Okay.
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Just making sure you picked up on the very subtle.
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I got that.
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Okay.
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I got that.
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It's just like you could have you could have gone anywhere with that.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Well, you got to like, I mean, the wolves got to take a dump.
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The three little pigs absolutely didn't give their babies up to the wolf.
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I don't believe that they had babies.
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I don't think they did.
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They all also weren't in the same house.
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No, they had, famously, that was the point of the story.
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Also, I mean, I guess the, uh, you know, the, the way that you could extend this to the
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real world is like, we should have made our house out of bricks then, because that's the
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instead of giving the lesson of the three little pigs.
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So anyway, this goes on, um, and Alex gets to talking about how the, uh, the wolf who
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has allowed these pigs to dress like the wolf and feed it their babies.
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Oh, he's still going?
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Yeah, it goes on.
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That can't be.
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So the wolf resents the pigs for allowing him to treat them like this.
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So now, now in this retelling, the wolf has very complicated motivations behind everything?
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Yes.
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Gotcha.
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Okay.
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He just wanted to eat pigs.
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Oh, that's, that's at the, that's at the core of it.
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Right.
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But additionally, the wolf resents the pigs for not being strong enough to stand up to it.
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Uh, naturally.
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So it makes sense.
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We had a higher class of pig in this town.
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Yeah.
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So the pig's sitting there thinking he's a wolf and the wolf's sitting there picking
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his teeth with a toothpick.
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And he says, you know what?
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I really hate your guts, pig.
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You sold out your own kind.
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When I'm done with all of them, I'm going to slowly tear you inside out.
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How's that sound there?
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Because it's all about conquering you little pigs.
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And you know, the truth is if you were wild boars, wolves run from wild boars because
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wild boars are in packs.
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And if the pigs ever act like boars, it'd be over for the wolves real quick.
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Got to pause real quick.
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If the pigs weren't pigs, then this would be going different.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Great.
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Yes, you nailed it.
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Great.
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Good solution.
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Let's see.
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People think having yellow bellies gets them ahead.
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And you know what?
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When there's not enough men to stand up, I guess it's true.
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Be a yellow belly, pretend you're a wolf when you know you're not.
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But see, some of us are going to be not sheep, not pigs, not wolves, but sheep dogs.
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And we like a good fight.
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And in the end, we're going to win.
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But I just want all of you out there thinking that you're safe.
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Kissing that wolf's stinking ass to know you're damn fools.
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We've got a big broadcast lined up.
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You want to stay with us?
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Really?
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Yeah, really?
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You're doing that at the end of that?
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Yeah, it's pretty spectacular.
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Oh boy.
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I love the idea of Alex being mad about like drag queen story time.
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And then he tells that as like a child's story.
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Yeah, that's bananas.
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It's all about anal-ingus that's being done by these pigs on the wolf.
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It reminds me so much of Patton Oswalt's bit about being afraid he'll do LSD in front of
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his daughter and he'll be down there and he's like, are you eating Lucky Charms?
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Let me tell you the real story about Lucky Charms, okay?
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Now the grainy pieces are good for you, but they're shaped like crosses and ichthos symbols,
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the traditional Christian.
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It has that same vibe.
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This is stupid.
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Naval gazing weirdness.
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So also what Alex is doing there at the end of this completely unhinged diatribe is he's
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weaving together something cribbed from the story of The Three Little Pigs and a little
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bit from the movie American Sniper.
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In the movie, Chris Kyle's character gives a speech about how in life there are three
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kinds of people.
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There's sheep, wolves, and sheep dogs.
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The normal people who have no capacity for violence are sheep.
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The people who can be violent but hate others are the wolves.
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And the people who can be violent but love everyone are sheep dogs.
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It's a woefully simplistic reduction of people's alignments and how violence works in society,
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but it was a scene that became very, very popular, particularly in gun advocacy communities.
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Basically, they use it as a way to frame their need for guns.
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It's so they can be sheep dogs that protect all the rest of the sheep, like us, from the
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wolves.
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Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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Good guy with a gun, but instead let's make it an animal metaphor and then the little
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pigs will feed us their babies.
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And the fact that Alex works in I'm Gonna Be a Sheepdog at the end gives me, and because
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it sort of tracks with the theme of that whole retelling of The Three Little Pigs, I'm pretty
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sure he just watched American Sniper recently, but that speech in American Sniper itself
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was stolen from a book called On Combat, written in 2004 by Lieutenant Colonel David Grossman,
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and it's a complete pile of violence justifying bullshit.
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It's nonsense.
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That sounds right.
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Honestly, when I was listening to this, I was worried for Alex's mental state as this
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episode is getting going.
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He sounds completely fucked up.
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He's indicating that Trump isn't going to save us.
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Then he's rambling his way through a gritty reboot of this folk tale.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He should have called in sick.
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For sure.
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Anybody who cares about him at all, if he's acting like this, you gotta get him some help.
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I don't know if it's booze or anything, but you're a lunatic.
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Yeah, no, I really have a hard time believing that that is actually broadcast on anything.
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That is so beyond...
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How could you listen to that and be like, well, this guy's okay?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's insane.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I understand when it's super profitable.
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I understand when all the money's coming in and everything's good.
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You make excuses like, yeah, look, he's clearly struggling out there, but we got another boat.
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So it's awesome.
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It's a great trade-off.
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Ride that horse till it dies, yeah.
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Now, I just think you gotta stop kidding yourself that the ship's gonna come in.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He needs help.
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The only trajectory is further downward.
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If anybody cared about him in his life, they would step in and be like, you know this keeps
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going further down.
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This path doesn't, all of a sudden, let's say, in six months, it's like, oh, what do
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you know?
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Alex is a billionaire now and everyone loves him.
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It doesn't go that way.
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Facebook's never letting you back on.
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It's never happening.
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Right, and even if it does, that's still going to be diminishing returns.
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It's still like, I don't know, someone needs to really check in.
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Because he's also indicating pretty regular breaks with reality and how many of them are
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actually sincere and how many are just like him talking shit, it's really hard to say.
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But if you take any of the things he's saying seriously, he is a man who's living in a state
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where he's having a difficult time differentiating between reality and his own fantasies, delusions,
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as pretty well transmitted in this next clip.
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He's talking about how people who politically disagree with him and have decided that they're
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evil, right?
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They're not possessed by demons so much as they become an empty vessel that demons just
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can jump into, like in The Matrix.
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Uh, I mean, I can't disprove that.
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OK, so I think I would like a little bit more from him on why.
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So I'm looking forward to this.
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Well, I'm not sure you're going to get it, but here's what he has to say.
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The lights are on, but nobody's home.
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See, that's not quite right.
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Lights are on.
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Somebody else is home.
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And just exactly who is that?
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Just exactly what is that?
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It's the devil spoiler.
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Well, yeah, obviously, it's a transmission from the devil.
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In fact, most of these people you call possessed are it's not even an entity.
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Miss studying it very closely.
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Most of them, what a transmission.
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That's why you can go from one person to the other.
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That's why you can go from one block to another block in places like Seattle and San Francisco.
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I've seen it.
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And the first time I saw it, I was like, step back and stumble.
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I went, what?
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I saw that in The Matrix.
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I didn't know that was real.
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Regis Smith jumping from person to person.
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Neo and Morpheus.
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Jumps in a cop, jumps in a woman, jumps in the cab driver.
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No matter where he goes, he just jumps in on the part.
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You know, there's a maid cleaning jumps into them.
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They can just shove aside.
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The consciousness is there is just turned itself over and it just jumps, jumps, jumps.
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I was in Seattle.
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Oh, yeah.
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A lot of feeds down there.
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People were throwing coffee on me, screaming at me, yelling at me.
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And I go around one block and somebody talking like a demon.
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And then I walk around another block and they go, yeah, I saw you over there.
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Yeah, yep, yep.
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It's me.
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I'm going to get you.
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I mean, and you're like, whoa, like, what is that?
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It's just a transmission.
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And if you can figure it out where it's coming from or how to block it, you'd save the planet.
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What the fuck is he like?
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He's talked about this sort of thing repeatedly.
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It's not just his trip to Seattle.
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He said stuff about, like, being in the grocery store.
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People just turn into demons around him.
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Like, I don't know if he's sincere about that or if he's talking shit.
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If he's sincere and he actually is experiencing that, he needs to go to a hospital.
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Yeah, that is insane.
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That is a very serious mental condition that he's probably struggling with.
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Like, if he's lying about it, then what he's doing is normalizing the experience that someone
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might have if they're having, let's say, a break with reality.
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He's saying, no, no, no, it's real.
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It's demons.
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Let's say you're a listener who's listening to this show and maybe you're experiencing
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something like that.
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You're having hallucinations, auditory or visual or whatever.
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Alex is like, no, that's demons.
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That's a transmission from another.
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How are you going to take that?
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Are you going to take that like, oh, I should probably go get my meds checked out or I should
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go get help?
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No, you're going to be like, there's fucking demons all around me.
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I better do something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Either way, he's dangerous.
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Even if you don't, like...
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Even if he's not lying, he's still normalizing mental illness.
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Yeah, totally.
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Or not mental illness, the destructive parts of it.
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These sort of dangerous side effects and symptoms that people can be experiencing.
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And even if the people who are experiencing those things, who Alex turns into proof of
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his conspiracies, you know, like these symptoms are proof of his conspiracy.
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Even if they don't act out and go and commit violent acts or anything, it's still keeping
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them from getting the help they need.
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It's still hurting them.
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And even that alone, even if they don't act out against any of these people who they've
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now determined to be demons, Alex is severely hurting the people listening to him.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know which of those I think is worse.
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Which option?
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Like Alex actually experiencing these things or just talking shit in such a way that normalizes...
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And normalizes isn't the right word.
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Well, I think...
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I don't think it really changes anything either way.
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I think either way he needs to be in a hospital.
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Because if he's actually experiencing these things, then he needs to be in a hospital
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because that is a symptom of a very serious issue.
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And if he's not experiencing these things, he needs to be in a hospital because why are
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you pretending like you're experiencing these things?
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That is its own set of mental illness.
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Now you've reached the catch-22 level of...
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Exactly.
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He's fucked.
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He needs help.
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He needs help.
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Yeah.
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So at this point in the episode, we're about half an hour in or so, and we've got the...
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And he's done this like tone of voice the entire time?
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Not the whole time, but most of it, yeah.
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This like defeated, introspective, rambling, nonsensical Willy Wonka of ridiculous sadness?
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He has some moments of flourish a little bit when he's talking about his sales.
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But yeah, it's a pretty fucked up intro to the episode.
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Trump's not going to save us.
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Let me tell you about these pigs and the wolf eating ass.
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And then I see crazy hallucinations of demons coming to chase me and jumping in and out
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of people's bodies.
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I've been studying the transmissions of the devil and it turns out that I watched The
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Matrix and I was like, oh, I didn't know that was real because I watched The Matrix.
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Last night I drank a bottle of cough syrup and flipped between American Sniper and The
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Matrix.
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And here's what happened.
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I was hanging out with Lil Wayne and shit got a little wild.
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So this clip sounds even weirder knowing that this is what we've been doing for the
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beginning of this episode.
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Waves coming going to be 100 feet tall, 1000 feet tall.
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And then very quickly, mass insanity is going to set in and you're going to see mass
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suicides and people trampling each other by the millions and nuclear reactors melting
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down and exploding and huge war starting.
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General insanity breaking out.
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You think you've seen something so far?
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We are living in the millisecond as the king cobra strikes and sinks its veins into our
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thigh.
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I served under general insanity.
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You know what I'm going to I'm going to say the thing that he most reminds me of right
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now is Charles Manson.
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This is straight out of Charles Manson.
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It does have a similar feel to it.
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He's just not he's just not providing underage curls to Dennis Wilson.
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And I think that's the only difference right now.
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I can say, yeah, I mean, it's cult leader shit.
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It's extreme.
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It's oh, yeah, but it's also uninspired and and lackadaisically delivered Charles Manson.
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I guess I haven't listened to a ton of Charles Manson speeches.
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So pretty great.
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OK, we'll do one for a wacky Wednesday.
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Yeah, I just hear like real trouble.
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That's one of the reasons why the present day also isn't super
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compelling to me is like I just see somebody who like someone should be helping.
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Yeah, everyone around him is negligent for whatever reason.
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Yeah.
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Some people probably out of fear of like his reaction, which I can understand terrifying.
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Sure.
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He seems like a super angry dude who is resistant to people getting help him help.
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Like I imagine someone saying you need to go talk to somebody would be taken as you're
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working for the globalists.
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Well, not just that, but if not, you're going to be a little bit more angry.
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If not just the you're working for the globalists, but also a terrible insult.
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Like, are you telling me that I'm not man enough to buy you in perfect mental health
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condition?
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It's a fucking yeah.
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Yeah.
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Any weakness.
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So there's that or possibly people who work with him who don't care or people who are
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able to convince themselves that, like, it's an act.
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He's just doing this for ratings or whatever.
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Right.
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You know, like as I think I think I agree with you that, like, even if he is just pretending
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to be this crazy.
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Yeah, that is an indication of something that's a problem or something that he's clearly
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wrestling with.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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I just it's like he's got Munchausen's like he's he aspires to Munchausen's disease,
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something like that.
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I mostly see a problem that isn't all that interesting to me that could be solved if
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anyone cared.
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And the part of it that's not that interesting to me is like all of this stuff that most
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of his narratives all just double back into, like, stuff that we could cover and discuss
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more interestingly in other times or even have already.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, just like this racist shit, this anti-communist nonsense, this everyone's the
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devil.
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Like, it's I don't know.
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It it it leaves me searching for things like the folktale Three Little Pigs stuff because
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that's so wild.
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Otherwise, there's like he's just phoning it in and boring as shit.
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I I I I am like that Three Little Pigs thing is so wild.
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I'm still struggling to comprehend that it's real.
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Like when you brought it up again, I was like, yeah, but did that really happen?
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Like, that's so ridiculous.
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The pigs, they drink drink the wolf's piss.
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Yes.
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What like what what what?
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And also, how are you still going?
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Yeah.
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How are you still going?
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The Three Little Pigs is a very short story that either you don't understand or you are
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rewriting.
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It also it also worries me of like how he explains these stories to his kids.
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Yeah, well, for sure.
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Just imagine because they're they're like really just basic life lessons that are conveyed
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through these folk stories, which is their their function in society.
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Now, the first little pig build his house out of straw.
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Now, the reason you don't build your house out of straw is because then you're going
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to have to eat the wolf's ass.
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I want to write next.
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I want to huffs and he puffs and you eat his ass.
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That's what happens.
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And then you have to drink his pants and he's a globalist and he's yeah.
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Well, it is there.
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Yeah.
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So at the end of that last clip, we talked about how the venom, the fangs of the cobra
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are coming into us.
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And so Alex rambles about that for a little bit.
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And then we realized that he forgot to turn off the ringer on his phone.
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So the initial sting is only the beginning.
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But remember, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
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Cool.
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So then he just rambles a bit about that.
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Well, like, well, he takes a look at his phone.
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Check it.
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See who is it?
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Is that anybody important?
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No, so it's good that along the way with this, like, complete nonsensical, unhinged, ridiculous
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stuff, the content that he's doing, he's also forgetting to turn off his ringer before he
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starts.
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That's so fun.
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So you get now back to this light criticism of Trump.
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And I think, you know, this is at least interesting because there's a storyline through Alex's
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experience with Trump.
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Yeah.
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And at least that's something to follow.
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And it turns out that Alex has some criticisms, but it mostly comes from a place where he's
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worried that if Trump doesn't do the right thing, he will summon literal demons.
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Oh, that'll happen.
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Pat Buchanan saying his impeachment inevitable and why a lot of folks are saying that Trump
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could be impeached and then even removed.
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This doesn't matter that he hasn't done anything wrong.
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Not committing a crime isn't enough.
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Standing up to the deep state triggered their wrath.
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And so now if Trump doesn't go after them and it doesn't find the people that will prosecute
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them, then he's summoned the demon without knowing how to control it.
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And it's going to be eaten along with the rest of us, at least in this face.
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And that's really where the criticism of Trump comes in.
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Oh, that's where it comes in?
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All right.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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This is further evidence that he is a Satanist Trump in his conception.
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Yeah.
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Literally summoned a demon and he just doesn't know how to control it.
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Right.
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And that makes me think of Lovecraft's the case of Charles Dexter Ward.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Which is all about that.
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Don't summon that which you can't bring back down or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And yeah.
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That is a lesson that you could have learned if you'd properly told the story of the three
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little pigs.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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When you have like, that's where your criticism starts or that's where it comes from, your
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criticism isn't coming from a sincere place.
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You're just a lunatic.
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No, I think I did read Nancy Pelosi ad into the articles of impeachment that he summoned
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a literal demon and could not control it anymore.
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Now he could control it.
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This would not be an impeachable offense.
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Yeah, no, of course.
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Not be a high crime or misdemeanor.
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Be a very strong demon.
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We couldn't fight against it.
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No.
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And so there's stuff like that that's kind of interesting to keep track of.
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And let me be totally clear.
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There are things that are going to come up over the course of this episode that I think
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are still worth our attention and being like, here's what's being said.
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Yeah, like that kind of thing.
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But in terms of my intellectual curiosities, there's much less to like, I get really excited
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going back through 2013 stuff because there's there's so much to dig into.
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How does this work?
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The propaganda and all this is very simplistic in the present day.
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It's not even that complicated.
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You don't want to you don't want to let, you know, put out lines on what specific demon
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he may have summoned.
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I mean, sure.
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Could be Azathoth.
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See, now I was thinking Azrael.
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Could be Xelototh.
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Could be.
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Could be one of the classics.
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Beelzebub, of course.
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Turturga.
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Turturga.
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Could be Turturga.
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It can't be Turturga.
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Could be Manturok, the Bound God.
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You know what?
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That might be why he can't control it.
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He can't pronounce the name properly.
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Turturga.
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Everybody knows this.
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This is all I've just been doing.
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Eternal Darkness references.
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For two days now.
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Yeah, I love that game.
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So Alex's main gripe, even though he's saying that Trump put up a demon that he can't put
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down all this dumb bullshit, his main gripe is that Trump isn't taking action on censorship,
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which, again, we know translates to I want to be on Facebook.
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Yeah.
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So he's complaining about somebody else getting kicked off Facebook.
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And man, all they do is just broadcast Trump's speeches.
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And if Brad Parcells knows everything about the Internet, then he knows how millions and
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millions of people have been persecuted and attacked and shut down for supporting the
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president.
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He knows how right side broadcasting, there's nothing but show the president's speeches
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has been banned on Facebook.
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And now this is an absolute tyranny.
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This also is after Alex complains about Brad Parscale getting asked on a video like what
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he thinks about Alex Jones being kicked off Facebook and all this.
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And he's like, who's Alex Jones?
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Nice.
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And Alex, he's like, I'm not mad about that.
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I'm not mad about that.
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He's furious.
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Very mad about that.
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He's furious about it.
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What do you mean he's not mad about that?
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So Alex is going to bat for right side broadcasting.
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All they do is air Trump's speeches.
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Yeah, but that's a hate speech.
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Well, that wouldn't be enough to get them kicked off Facebook.
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Naturally, even though it should be.
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But that's all they do, man.
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And that's tyranny.
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You get it?
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So I assume that that's all they do.
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So he's saying that getting kicked off Facebook, it's almost like Facebook saying that the
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president of the United States can't have their own speeches on Facebook.
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I really don't think he should.
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That's tyranny.
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There's a little bit about right side broadcasting that Alex is conveniently leaving out of his
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characterization of them that would go a long way towards explaining why they might not
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be allowed on Facebook.
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In 2017, right side broadcasting hired Joey Salads, a YouTube figure who's mostly known
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for two things.
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Salads.
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Nope.
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Oh.
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The first thing is that he possibly recorded himself peeing in his own mouth for a stunt
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video of some sort.
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Oh, OK.
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I mean, like, I don't even want to get into the specifics, but I assume from an angular...
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He claims he didn't swallow.
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On Twitter is...
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Well, no, I think I'm disappointed.
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That's not what I paid to see.
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Lack of commitment.
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That's not what I paid to see, dude.
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Right.
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The second thing he's known for is a series of videos that he made that were purporting
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to show that black men were violent towards Trump supporters.
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One of the more egregious examples of this was a video where he claimed he was setting
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up a camera on a car that had Trump stickers on it in a black neighborhood and just
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seeing what happened to it.
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So a group of young black men come and they destroy the car and tear the Trump stickers
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off and what have you.
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And Joey presented that as proof that that's just how black people act.
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And then he peed in his mouth.
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Saying, quote, as you can see from this video, the black community is very violent towards
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Trump and his supporters.
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That video hit a million views within hours.
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This is a guy who peed in his own mouth!
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Largely driven by traffic that he got from it being reposted on Drudge.
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Sure.
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Unfortunately for Joey, someone in the neighborhood where he was shooting this video caught some
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footage of their own, namely footage of the black men wading around behind a camera tripod
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while Joey delivered his lines to the camera.
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The entire video was a racist hoax designed to justify Trump supporters victimization
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narratives and their deep racism.
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Knowing that he was caught, Joey tried to make excuses, but then he ended up having
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to apologize and he said, quote, I thought I could get away with it, but I didn't.
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This isn't even close to the only fake race baiting video he's put out.
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He's a complete piece of shit.
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And if right side broadcasting would even consider hiring him in 2017, which is after
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he did that car hoax, they know what they're doing.
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Well, yeah.
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Also, side note, Joey Salads is currently running as a Republican for the New York 11th
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district congressional seat.
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Pee in everybody's mouth!
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So they hired that dude.
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That's not just airing Trump's speeches.
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That's hiring a known racist propagandist.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know what you're getting in.
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And it's not an isolated incident.
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They also hired Nick Fuentes, a very young, very stupid white supremacist.
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Imagine any neo-Nazi leaning white nationalist position a person could hold and you can kind
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of imagine what that dude is all about.
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Of course, he denies all those labels and just thinks of himself as a guy who loves
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America and knows it's all about white people.
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He's terrible.
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Well, that's not good.
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Fuentes' time at the network was short, however, because in August 2017, he got sacked after
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he went on an on-air rant about how the Constitution doesn't apply to Muslims and immigrants and
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said, quote, who runs the media?
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Globalists.
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Time to kill the globalists.
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Okay.
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I do not want to not watch CNN.
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I don't want CNN to go out of business.
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I don't want CNN to be more honest.
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I want people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged.
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So that's just airing Trump's speeches.
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All right.
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Now, I will say this.
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That is a hot take.
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I'm going to give him that, okay?
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The network also ran shows hosted by Mike Cernovich and former InfoWars reporter Rambo
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Joe Pizzagate Biggs.
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Sure.
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Oh, but I forgot.
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According to Alex, all they do is air the president's pages.
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Also, I literally just went to their Facebook page and it's still there with 273,000 followers
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and one of those little verification badges.
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So they're a verified page.
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They haven't been kicked off Facebook at all.
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They haven't been kicked off Facebook at all?
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This is a lie on top of a lie.
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Why are they doing this then?
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Is Alex doing it?
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Yeah.
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Because he wants to defend the narrative of conservative victimhood.
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God, I hate these people.
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This is all just pathetic and transparent bullshit.
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Like he's lying about what this network is in order to make it like,
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hey, they're just broadcast Trump's speeches.
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And then he's lying about them getting kicked off Facebook.
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It's very publicly.
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It's right there.
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Have you ever heard the phrase hat on a hat?
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Yes, it's that.
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It's that.
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But for white victimhood.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So a hood on a hood.
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Right.
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That's a good way to say it.
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All right, there we go.
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So Alex gets on to talking about Beto.
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Beto O'Rourke.
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Sure.
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Are we still doing that?
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Yeah.
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Beto said some stuff about how church.
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There was that LGBTQ debate.
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Yes.
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And he indicated that churches that are against gay marriage shouldn't have 501c3 status.
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What if he argued that no church should have 501c3 status?
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I think Alex might be okay with that, but he still wants some tax exemption.
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No, of course.
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He just doesn't want the other part of it.
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Anyway, Alex is mad about this.
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He yells about how Beto's a mouthpiece of the globalist.
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Sure.
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And then he lies about something Trump claims he did.
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So when Beto gets up there looking like it from the Adams family, all crazy.
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He's speaking from this globalist system.
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He's just a mouth.
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He's a tentacle.
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You can laugh at him all day, but he means business when he says we're going to take
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your guns and we're going to take your speech and we're going to go in and take control
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of the churches.
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The churches got tricked in the 50s into being 501c3.
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Oh, you're still tax exempt.
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Sign these forms.
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You're no longer a church.
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You're now a charity.
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Now they come in with regulations.
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Well, Trump removes those regulations.
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One of the best things he did, saying those are unconstitutional, but he already had the
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First Amendment saying to begin with.
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You're right.
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That wasn't it.
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It's the hairy guy.
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Yeah.
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Was he trying to talk?
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Was he trying to I thought he was, I thought it was lurch.
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Maybe he goes, maybe.
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Yeah, I thought it was the guy who puts the light bulbs in his mouth.
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Yeah, no, that's faster.
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Yeah.
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Or Christopher Lloyd.
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Yeah, he clearly watched a couple movies and Adam's family wasn't one of them.
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So got that reference wrong.
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So there's an essential misunderstanding that Alex has about the rules for churches and
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other charitable organizations that get to enjoy a tax exempt status, which are all laid
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out in what's known as the Johnson Amendment.
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He thinks that the rules say that churches can't talk at all about politics or social
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issues, but that is not and has never been the rule.
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The amendment is specifically about these sorts of organizations engaging in partisan
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political activity.
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If a church is against abortion, they can be against abortion.
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They just can't use their church to support a specific anti-abortion candidate or attack
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a pro-abortion candidate or replace candidate with measure or whatever.
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They can't use it for political advocacy.
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And thank God that is strictly enforced.
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Right.
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That's the other thing.
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Yeah.
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This isn't a rule that's ever been enforced very strongly, pretty much ever.
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I would venture to guess that many of the people listening to this show and the two
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people who have mics in their hands right now have been to a church where partisan politics
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have been engaged in.
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Yup.
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Small instances of it are just kind of ignored by the IRS because they know that strict enforcement
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of this rule is way more trouble than it's worth.
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Oh, man.
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It's an important rule to be in place, though, so they can go after organizations that try
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to exploit tax exemption to create political machines and that kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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It is important to be there even if they're never enforcing it in practice.
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Right.
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Churches legitimately almost never get in trouble for Johnson Amendment violations.
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On May 4th, 2017, Trump signed an executive order saying that the Secretary of the Treasury
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shouldn't really enforce the 501c3 rules, which most experts agree is really just a
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symbolic act and it's more just pandering to his base.
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Oh, he would never do that, though.
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Even the ACLU said it, quote, had no discernible policy outcome.
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Of course, after Trump signed the order, he started running around bragging about getting
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rid of the Johnson Amendment, which he didn't do and couldn't do even if he wanted to.
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It's a load of performative bullshit, and naturally, Alex thinks it's real.
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But the thing that I find interesting is that in that clip, Alex said it's one of the best
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things Trump's done while he's in office, which is damning that dude with faint praise.
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No, I mean...
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The best thing he did was pander.
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I think the best thing he did was nothing.
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So that's oh, man, of course, back to the wall, such reality TV show president.
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That's what we have.
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He's creating a narrative so he can sell it, which kind of makes sense, I guess.
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So anyway, he gets to yelling more about Beto.
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And this is stupid.
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So Beto O'Rourke, I played it last hour, says, let's take away the tax exemption of any
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church that doesn't accept bestiality, pedophilia, all of it.
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He did say that.
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Well, you can't do that.
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It's the First Amendment.
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The government has no jurisdiction, but the churches are run by the Ecumenical World Council
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of Churches that teaches them they have no rights.
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And so until we take our churches back, it's over.
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Make churches great again.
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Yeah, I don't know why Alex would even think that, like, a church can't speak out against
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a bestiality.
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Like, why?
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Is that even up for debate, like, in the political sphere?
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That's a good question.
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Would that somehow be considered partisan politics?
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I think so.
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I think so.
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I don't.
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It's long been a policy goal of specifically independence for some reason.
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Bring bestiality back.
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I don't know why it needs to come back.
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I don't know why it was there in the first place.
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Sure.
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But independence, 98% of them in every poll.
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0% Democrat, 0% Republican, 98% independent.
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That's such nonsense.
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I just imagine this fantasy scenario Alex is painting where, like, the IRS goes after
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a church because they're against bestiality.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, can you even imagine what that would look like in the real world?
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A fun day.
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That would be a day.
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A distraction.
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That would be a whole man.
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Twitter would love that for a day.
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Yeah.
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So we talked about this or touched on it a tiny bit earlier.
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There's that sort of, like, disillusionment moment where you have to peer through the
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clouds and see, like, eh, what I wanted is probably not happening.
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You see what you actually bought.
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Yeah.
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And I think that these next couple of clips really get to the heart of that for Alex.
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People are tired of hearing about how Trump's gonna have the deep state indicted.
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We just saw these two nobodies from Ukraine with continuous connections to Giuliani indicted
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on campaign finance fraud.
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And now they're claiming they've got congressmen won who got money from them from a PAC, which
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is totally legal.
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So the threats are going on big time behind the scenes.
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And if Trump doesn't start executing his power, he will be taken down tenuous connections
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to Giuliani just today.
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As we're recording this, Reuters came out with a headline exclusive.
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Trump's lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associates firm.
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Tenuous, tenuous connection.
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Well, I mean, that's look, you know, a gigs a gig in the in today's gig economy.
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You know, it was either drive Uber or more money than I've probably made.
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Maybe in my life.
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Yeah, no.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Tenuous, tenuous ass connections, though.
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No, nothing to see here.
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No worries.
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Don't worry about it.
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Oh, boy.
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I I find Giuliani to be some sort of weird court jester now.
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Like, hasn't he become something of a mascot where they they trot him out like a marionette
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and he says all kinds of weird things and everybody's like, he's going to get you guys
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killed.
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Why are you still doing this?
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And Trump is like, he makes me laugh.
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I don't fucking know.
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I think the most important thing in that clip, though, because all that minimizing is exactly
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what you'd expect from Alex.
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It's all just like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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You shouldn't have to say something's totally legal.
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Well, he always does that.
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Legal and awful action.
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Right, right.
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Don't do anything illegal.
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You have to say it.
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It's a bad sign.
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I think that the thing is like Alex started that clip saying everyone's tired of hearing
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people say that Trump's going to indict the deep state.
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You know who says that all the time?
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He does.
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Yeah.
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You, Alex.
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For several years.
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You're now saying that everyone's tired of the line that I've been feeding them, which
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is probably accurate.
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I bet he's got a few emails.
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Yeah.
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And so now I think it's time to pivot.
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And I think you start to see the early signs of it.
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Now, how far he's going to go with it, how much he's going to tend to this plant as it
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grows.
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Right.
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I have no fucking idea, but I see this as planting seeds.
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I care about the president so much and I care about my own fate and my children's fate even
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more that I'm very upset with the president.
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I don't want to hear from any of the administration that it's two weeks till people are indicted
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anymore.
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I want to see indictments and I want to see deep staters frog marched out right now.
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Now, that's not going to happen.
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No, he knows that.
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Yeah.
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So that frees him up to be like, I put it on the line.
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I said, I'm tired of hearing this talk.
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I want to see action.
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And when the action doesn't come, you'll be like, I love what the president stands for.
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He's a relic of Americana or whatever the fuck masculinity nonsense ideas I have.
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And you know what?
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It just didn't come through.
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It didn't happen.
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We got to save ourselves right at the top of the show, right on the on the scale of
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zero to one.
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Exactly.
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How many ISIS is does Trump have up his dirty asshole right now?
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I would say point five six.
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We're half a we're half to a little over half a little a half over of an ass is in his ass.
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Yeah, gotcha.
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Oh, that's that's a lot of ISIS up your ass too much.
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You got to get up to like it.
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This is a family show.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So, Alex, it sort of goes further down this road, expands on this theme here in this next
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clip.
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They're on top of us.
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Rapings.
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You can smell their breath.
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They're looking into our eyes.
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They're squatting on top of us, peeing on us.
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Family show.
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So we need you to drop the do not gloves off.
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Do not.
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And talk isn't enough.
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Oh, boy.
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Palfrey number to join us.
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Oh, whoa.
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I'll take some calls on that note.
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I mean, he's just calling for Trump to lock up and solidify power by taking out his political
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rivals that Alex has determined are deep state operatives.
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So that's good.
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Right.
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That's healthy.
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It's frustrating that they managed to convince, I would say roughly 33 percent of the United
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States of fantasies.
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It's really frustrating like that, that whole like lock her up and all of that shit and
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all of that.
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And you're it's like you're you've sold them on something that is not real.
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And the fantasies really only serve in the real world.
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They only really serve to help someone who wishes to solidify authoritarian power do
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so.
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Yeah.
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Circumvent courts, circumvent Congress, take singular executive authority.
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Like that's really the only function that something like this serves.
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Right.
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Calling for Trump to lock up all of his imaginary deep state enemies and shit.
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Like that's cool, man.
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You're just normalizing a rise of a tyrant.
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And the yeah.
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And the only thing that you get out of it is the I guess emotional satisfaction of watching
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somebody that you've been told is evil get treated like they're evil.
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If you're a listener, yes.
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Because you're going to get fucked up by all the policies that actually come into play.
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Yes.
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If you're someone on the ground, absolutely.
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But if you're someone like Alex, you have the maybe the idea that I'll get back on Facebook
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if Trump becomes a dictator.
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Right.
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In order to.
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Yeah.
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We're going to have to control the means of Facebook production in order for me to get
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back on it.
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Yeah.
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I just want a tyrant to do it.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, like you said, he's going to take some calls.
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Sure.
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He's freed up most of the time.
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He's canceled his guests.
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He's canceled his guests?
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He's canceled Nick Begich hosting the fourth hour because he wants to take some calls.
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OK.
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And he wants calls from people who disagree with him.
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Sure.
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But if you listen to how he's setting this up, it really strongly implies that if you
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call in and you disagree with him, you're probably a demon.
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And no one calls in to disagree with him because they're too afraid of having an interaction
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with her.
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I would say that if I were listening, I was like, I'm probably going to be dealt with
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as if I'm a demon call.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Probably best not to engage.
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Not worth it.
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And by the way, if you think Trump should be impeached, you're welcome to call in.
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We're not a cult like the left where they screen out all the calls they disagree with.
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This is a real organization here.
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We have real discussions.
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And people that call and disagree always then say I'm the government or I'm corrupt or I'm
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Bill Hicks or something.
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And so I will yell at you for stuff like that.
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It's just not true.
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But if you have some sort of stuff to talk about, we would love to hear from you.
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But see, the left is a satanic system.
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Right.
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Never wants us to exist.
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So they don't ever want to commune with us and actually have a real discussion because
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they don't believe in themselves and their own humanity.
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And so they can never join with us because we represent the life force and communion
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with God and we represent the infinity of consciousness that is already with us.
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So that kind of disqualifies anybody from actually having a substantive argument on
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the other side.
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Well, they're just demons.
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Sure.
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And I'll treat you as such.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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We don't we're not a cult like the left.
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I'm just telling you that a supernatural force is controlling them, making them the
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targets of violence for us.
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And I wish they'd come to me with substantive arguments.
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I know.
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I don't understand why they won't just engage with what I'm saying.
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Yeah, it's kind of just like a preemptive way to not ever have those conversations.
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Yeah, exactly.
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While blaming the other side for never having those conversations.
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Exactly.
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Whatever.
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Yep, so Alex is mad about gender pronouns, as he is haunted to do, as he is known on
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the streets now.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy.
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So he's mad about the tyranny of this political correctness of people being, I don't know,
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expected to treat people like how they want to be treated.
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Yeah, I would say so.
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But it's interesting because he's mad about that.
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But the things that he uses as an example of times that, you know, we've acquiesced
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to these sorts of things in the past indicate to me some bad things.
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These people are carrying out a cult of making you talk the way they want.
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First, it's the n-word.
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You think, well, I think that's reasonable.
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But notice all the rappers, everybody else can use it.
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It's just you can't.
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And then it's, oh, boy, we're just going to ban the tax exemption of the KKK.
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Oh, OK.
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And then now it's your church down the street that's anti-war.
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Or now it's the church down the street that doesn't want to kill babies after they're
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born.
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So they think you're ready to capitulate.
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They think you're ready to roll over.
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The question is, are you?
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Does he think?
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So is he saying that banning the n-word was the slippery slope that gets us to.
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I'm less interested in that because the n-word isn't banned.
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You can say it if you want.
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No, you can't, apparently.
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Yeah, you can.
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No, it's not illegal.
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The KKK isn't tax exempt anymore.
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That part is the part that I'm more interested in, because it does seem to imply that he
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thinks the Klan should be tax exempt.
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Well, you should have.
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I mean, that was the slippery slope.
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Yeah.
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You know, you give the Klan, you take away their tax exempt status.
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Next thing you know, when somebody says they want to be referred to as she, you have to
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do it.
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Right.
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No, that makes perfect sense.
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No, no, no.
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See, he's trying to draw a parallel between respecting people's gender pronouns and some
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terrible authoritarian Soviet state we'll end up in.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But the parallel to that is they took away the Klan's tax exempt status and then your
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mom and pop church down the street that's just against the war.
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They're against war.
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They have their tax exempt status taken away.
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Yeah.
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It's not at all accurate.
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It's not real, but it does seem to indicate that Alex thinks that the Klan should have
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kept tax exempt status.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Which is fucked up.
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Yeah, well, I mean, look, free speech and tax exempt status.
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We have to respect the KKK, I guess is his point.
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I guess.
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Has he never seen Blues Brothers?
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I feel like he would have liked Blues Brothers.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, this next clip is really fucked up and it's more of this deteriorating and
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descending into like being mad about drag queen story time and just LGBTQ people in
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general, not really disassociating or noting the differences between people who are drag
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performers and people who might be trans or non-binary.
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Right, right, right, of course.
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He just lumps everything all into one.
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Everybody who's not me.
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Right.
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And is disgusting towards this combined group.
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The man came to your children in the park and said, I want him to sit on my lap.
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He'd say, get the hell out of here.
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But see, these leftist women bring their children and children look up at him like, is it all
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right?
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They're always so scared.
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But finally they're made to do it.
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Now they're ready for the sexual conversion.
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And all these tranny commandos tell you, they say no, and their name is right.
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They're transitioning your kids.
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We're here to groom your children in video after video with arrogance and hatred and
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a big smile because the evil flows through them.
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Only when they carry out the evil, they suddenly feel alive.
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Touch them, ride them, sit on them.
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Get close to the spider.
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Come to me, my pretty.
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These things must be done delicately.
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I'll get you and your little dog, too.
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We're going to your phone calls when we come back.
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Sure, OK.
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So I don't really care about that disgusting bullshit.
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The only reason I felt like you really need to play that is to demonstrate like he's still
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on this tip.
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And secondly, it's because he needed to do that in order to get into that headspace that
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you heard at the end there.
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It's like, yeah, headspace.
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And it allows him to transition into like just a completely fucked up weird character.
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And it's not gross after this point.
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Yeah.
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But here, listen to this.
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He's doing an incredibly fake gruff voice coming out of this.
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Like he's now embodied these demons he's fighting against.
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And so in order to get out of it, he's got to embody the hero.
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Or under our theory, he is actually possessed by a demon right now.
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I don't know.
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Look, if I were Alex, I would say yes.
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Absolutely.
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See, there we go.
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But proof to me.
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Instead, I think he now needs to play the other role, which is hero guy.
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I've done a lot of talking in my life.
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And see, I'm not trying to talk like some guy in old Western.
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I feel like you're saying that means you are.
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That's what happens to a voice that's been used like it's supposed to in the fight.
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It's got that old authoritative sound, which somewhere back in our instincts, we say is
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the old gray back.
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What?
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Where are the old graybacks out there?
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They've all been told to go away.
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They've all sold out.
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Or they never discovered even who they were.
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And it's about pronouns?
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The best golf membership is a symbol of the power.
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When it's the exercise of their will against evil.
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Notice that his voice went back to normal there.
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Totally back to his normal.
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I'm not trying to sound like a cowboy.
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The sound of a man whose voice has been used in the right way in the fight.
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Anyways, back to the normal conversation that we were having.
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Ridiculous.
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Such bullshit.
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But the other thing, I tried to look into graybacks, old graybacks.
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What the fuck is that?
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The only thing I could find is it was a term for like one of the currencies that was used
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before we had like a unified dollar.
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And then also it was a regiment in the Union Army.
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But I don't think I would have gone the other day because they had gray uniforms.
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It was a specific troop.
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Right, because the Union was blue.
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But I don't know what, I know that he wouldn't reference Union soldiers.
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Yeah, no, exactly.
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Unless they were secret false flagging unions.
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It's got to be some deep reference to a Western or something like that that I just don't know
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and I can't find by searching for it.
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But whatever the case, I mean like he's just lost in a deep fantasy of like doing impressions
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of demons and then impressions of who he wants to protect us from the demons.
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Yeah.
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This is just like a guy who's playing out just an absurd one-man show.
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That's all this is.
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It's a mentally unwell one-man show.
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It's so confusing to me.
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It's not confusing to me, I apologize.
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It is so utterly beyond parody that nobody would be more furious of being misgendered
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than Alex.
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Right.
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If you were to call him she over and over and over again, he would be so angry.
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It would drive him crazy.
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It would!
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Yeah.
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You know what, it drives you crazy to be misgendered every day in every conversation.
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Or just call him Pete over and over again.
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Just, so how is it that you can't put one and one together?
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That's because they're trying to attack masculinity in order to destroy the quest.
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Okay fine, well then you're she.
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Fuck off, I don't care.
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Ugh!
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Yeah, it is interesting that those sort of leaps are just incapable of making.
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I think you got a lunatic here who's doing like lunatic shit.
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Yeah.
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But you have to recognize in with that lunacy is the message of Trump needs to lock up his
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political enemies.
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Yeah.
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And then also it gets geopolitical too.
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So when he starts taking calls and he ends up talking to a Canadian who has a little
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bit of a bone to pick about how a certain politician is being treated there.
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You know, being up in Canada, we have a federal election coming later this month and it's
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really incredible.
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We have a classical liberal that's come onto the stage and you see the same pattern happening
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where it's a populist movement.
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It's a return to, you know, just the classical liberal roots of Western democracy.
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And he's being labeled neo-Nazi.
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Yeah, that's interesting.
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So this caller is talking about Maxime Bernier, who's the founder of the People's Party of
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Canada.
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Well, I'll be the first to admit that I do not know everything about the Canadian political
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scene.
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I can absolutely tell you why people are throwing around words like neo-Nazi and fascist.
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It's because his party seems to have a bunch of neo-Nazis and fascists in it.
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All right.
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Well, that's okay, fine.
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We'll give you that one.
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You see, in order for the People's Party to file with the Canadian elections folk and
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thus have the status of being a political party to be able to run in elections, they
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needed to have at least 250 people sign their registration documents attesting that they
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are members of this actual political party.
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One of the names on that list was Sean Walker, who was formerly the head of the neo-Nazi
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organization, the National Alliance.
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Ah, formerly.
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You can't call him a neo-Nazi anymore.
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You want to know why he wasn't anymore?
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Probably because he was too neo-Nazi for neo-Nazis.
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He was indicted in 2006 on federal charges of orchestrating violent attacks on non-white
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citizens in Salt Lake City between the years 2002 and 2003.
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That's that's too neo-Nazi.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was sentenced to 87 months in prison, but released in 2009 and is since relocated to
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Canada.
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And now he's one of the 250 names on the signature for the People's Party of Canada.
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All right.
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All right.
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One of the other names was Janice Boltje, who was a founding member of the Canada chapter
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of Pegida, the white supremacist anti-Islam organization.
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All right.
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That's another that's only two strikes, though.
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I'm sure you can't find a third.
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Then there was Justin L. Smith, who is a former member of the Soldiers of Odin, a Finland-based
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white supremacist group some might describe as not being too far off from racist vigilantes.
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Smith claimed that he was part of that group, quote, quite a long time ago.
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But then the Sudbury Star reported that he was identified as the president of the Sudbury
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chapter as recently as September 2017, which I guess is technically still before he signed
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the petition as a member of the People's Party, but not by very much.
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No.
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No.
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OK, so that is three strikes.
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Now, I have decided to change the rules.
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Four strikes.
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It requires four strikes in order to...
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I don't care about your rules.
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That's why people are throwing around words like neo-Nazi when talking about this candidate.
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Because he is.
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It's because he needed to find 250 party members to sign a petition.
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And weirdly, at least three of the people he found are super fucked up white supremacist
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fascists.
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So I feel like that is a bad sign.
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Yeah.
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If you wander into a rally and you turn to your left and you turn to your right and there
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are a lot of Nazis around and you stick around, yeah, you're a Nazi buddy.
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Yeah, it's really weird.
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These classical liberals that are coming out...
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I forgot to say classical liberal.
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I apologize for not using their...
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It's weird the intense interest...
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I think they're misgendering their fucking political party.
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That's what I would say.
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Well, I mean, Dave Rubin had him on The Rubin Report to do an interview with Bernier.
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And then he also went to Canada to do a fundraiser event for him.
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It's very interesting to see these ding-dongs over here who are...
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These propagandists on the right, very interested in him.
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And he also has neo-Nazis and his founding party members.
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Well, it's just that they want to create a global association of right-wing nationalist
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classical liberals in order to control the world.
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It makes sense.
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A global group of them.
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Right.
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An alliance of the West, if you will.
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Seems like a good idea.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Alex gets back to talking about how the time for rhetoric is over.
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He wants Trump to act.
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Feel like it's still time for rhetoric.
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And I think we really can't just sit here and hope Trump's gonna do anything.
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Maybe it's gonna come.
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We've seen a little bit of action.
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We've seen some really good rhetoric.
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Have we?
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But rhetoric hasn't stopped Silicon Valley and their CHICOM operatives from pressing
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the attack.
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It's actually made them dig their heels in, made them put on more steam, had them really
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buck up.
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So I'd like to meet the enemy.
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I'd like to start politically pulling their teeth out with pliers.
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I don't mind the pain myself.
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I just like to get my legs back in.
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And what I don't want to hear is Brad Parscale's talking about dynasties.
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Talk about dynasties after we defeated the globalists.
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You can have your dynasty.
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But you're either gonna get dynasty or destruction.
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So Alex is totally fine with the idea of Trump and his family having like sort of, you know,
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just their family is a political dynasty.
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You get generational rules from Trump.
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As long as we defeat my chosen enemies, these globalists, you can have a kingdom.
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Explain to me what could be more American than creating a dynasty of fascist leaders
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who have total and infinite power and transfer that power and transfer that power
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down a lineage.
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I don't see anything wrong with that.
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I don't see anything un-American about that.
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Lock up political enemies, create intense propaganda about xenophobic concerns, dog
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whistle aggressively about vulnerable populations, also seem to wish to control media and wish
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to punish people who report things that are inconvenient.
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Yeah, what Alex is calling for is just, I want my dictatorship.
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I don't want, I want my imaginary enemies to be vanquished.
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And when you do that, you get to be king.
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I don't give a fuck.
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We'll live under this white tyranny, but I don't want this multicultural tyranny.
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That's at the bottom of it.
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That's all he is showing.
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He's revealing that that's fine with him.
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Yeah, no, it's, it's the, it's the white nationalists are like in this place of, well,
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then I'm taking my ball and going home like that.
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Oh, fine.
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You think, you think we're going to add multiculturalism to this democracy?
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That's not what it's supposed to be about.
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So I'm going to get rid of democracy and we're going to have white tyranny.
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How do you like that?
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I'm taking my ball and I'm fucking going home.
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We tried with the democracy and then you guys got rights or whatever it was.
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It's so clear.
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I mean, you've seen how like in the more present days, Alex has completely abandoned those
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ideas about like posse comitatus being so important.
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Let them run everything.
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Yeah.
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It's just, you know, it's all the, the mask is slipped and you see exactly what he stands
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for.
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Everything else before was pretend.
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Yep.
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And he's a fascist.
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And a white white identity guy.
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So Alex gets to complaining about Phil Mudd, uh, the former CIA guy who went on MSNBC or
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whatever and said that the spies are going to kill the president.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Um, he was obviously talking in an embellishment, uh, but Alex has taken that as a serious death
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threat against, uh, Trump.
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And so that's one of his only go-to examples of people actually being like, uh, they're
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going to kill the president.
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It always brings up fucking Phil Mudd.
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Right.
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And, uh, he talks a little bit about him in this next clip and I have bad news.
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He's just making shit up.
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Phil Mudd's great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather out of
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Virginia reportedly helped kill Lincoln to the name became known as Mudd.
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Sure.
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That's where that comes from.
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Does it?
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Your name will be Mudd.
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It was a pun in the newspapers at the time.
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And the progeny of Mudd, Dr. Mudd, says they're going to kill the president and kill his
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supporters.
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Ooh, his name is Mudd.
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His name is Dr. Mudd.
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Thank you very much, Dan.
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Well, that is, I mean, the doctor, Dr. Mudd's a real person, but like, this is the thing
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that Alex talks about a lot, how Phil Mudd's ancestor was accused of being involved in
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the Lincoln assassination.
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And that's where the expression his name is Mudd comes from.
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This goes back to Dr. Samuel Mudd, who was the doctor who attended to John Wilkes Booth's
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injuries after the assassination.
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But the jury is still out about whether or not he was in any way involved in the crime.
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There's a pretty high chance that he was just a doctor who treated a patient not knowing
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what they had just done.
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It's unclear.
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He very well might have been involved or be aware of what he was doing.
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Yeah.
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Who knows?
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Regardless, this man being the source of the term his name is Mudd is absolutely not true.
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Lincoln was assassinated in 1865, and people who study idioms and linguistics have traced
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the expression his name is Mudd at least as far back as an 1823 book from Britain called
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A Dictionary of the Turf, which includes the line, quote, trans-exclusionary reaction.
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No, never mind.
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It's spelled differently.
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OK.
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It includes the line, quote, Mudd, a stupid twaddling fellow, and his name is Mudd.
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The expression almost certainly even predates that passage, but that's one of the earliest
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definitive written published sources.
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1823, long before the assassination.
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And I imagine that the comparison to like the pun on it being Mudd itself is something
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that linguistically can be traced back into other languages as well.
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Like everybody has been like, that guy is like shit.
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And that's essentially what Mudd is, you know.
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That's different.
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You wouldn't be able to draw that as like the same idiom.
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But this one traces at least back to this.
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I'm just saying it's not necessarily an original pun is my point.
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But I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you, but it wouldn't help with
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the Mudd situation because it's specifically what Alex is talking about.
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Understood.
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But this version of the story that Alex is telling about the root of this idiom, the
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one that gets passed around by a lot of people who just don't hear things and just repeat
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them without checking in on them, they love this one.
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Of course.
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But in particular, I remember this being a story that's told in the movie National
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Treasure Book of Secrets by Nic Cage's character Benjamin Franklin Gates.
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I have a very strong suspicion that that's where Alex got the story from.
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He watched National Treasure and is like, hey, that's where his name is Mudd came from.
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Look, it's a very good Nicolas Cage performance.
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It's very good.
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I believed he believed that.
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I am a fan of the National Treasure movies.
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Are you?
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Yes.
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Like for real?
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Yeah.
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Like unironically straight up.
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I haven't watched them in years, but I watched the first one so many times when I was younger.
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In the movie theater?
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Is that the...
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I think I might have worked at the theater when it came out, but I just thought it was
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so over the top and ridiculous.
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Fantastic.
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It's a well done story.
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And Nicolas Cage is awesome.
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Yeah, and I like movies where it's sort of an adventure.
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You got this historical revision aspect to it.
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Yeah, Nicolas Cage is Indiana Jones, but you know...
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I'm going to steal the Declaration of Independence.
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I know.
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God, that's such a great line.
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Awesome.
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That's so good.
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Book of Secrets wasn't nearly as good, but still fine.
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I don't accept the increased part for What's His Dumb Face.
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Ed Harris was in it.
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John Voight.
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John Voight, yeah.
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John Voight was in the first one, too.
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He was in the first one, but he got a lot more screen time in the second one.
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Fair enough.
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I'm still pissed they didn't make a third one.
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Yeah, what would your title for that have been?
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I don't know, but I did come up with a plot for it.
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And that is that there's something, a clue to a treasure or something that's buried in
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Arlington Cemetery in the place where presidents are buried.
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So in order to get the clue, he has to become the president and then fake his own death
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in order to get buried in Arlington Cemetery to find the clue that...
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I don't know, it involved aliens.
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I don't remember all the plot, but I'm going to bury the president.
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Sure.
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But it's me.
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So anyway, I'm pretty sure that that's where Alex got this from.
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He gets everything from movies.
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And this seems like a kind of movie he might like.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And it's an absolutely not true thing that is in that movie.
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So as for Phil Mudd being the great, great, great, great, great grandson of Samuel Mudd,
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that might be true.
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I have no idea.
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I can't really find this out since Phil's a pretty private dude about his family, and
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there really isn't any information available about his tree or lineage.
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Still doesn't matter either way.
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Yeah, you'll hear the claim reported over and over again on message boards and tweets,
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but there's no sourcing for it ever.
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And even if it is true, who cares?
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Alex should care exactly zero about this.
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His ancestors fought for the Confederacy, so he should be all about the doctor who stitched
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up the guy who killed Lincoln, whether or not he was in on the plan.
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Well, you know, ever since Jefferson Davis got impeached, he's got very little.
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He's got some strange feelings on that subject.
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The bottom line here is that Alex is 100% wrong about the expression.
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His name is Mudd.
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And he's likely taking his information from a historical fiction movie where a guy goes
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hunting for treasures that the Knights Templar hid around the world.
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He's further just making up that he knows that Phil Mudd is related to Samuel Mudd because
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they have the same last name.
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This is the level of shit that he brings to the table.
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Well, you know, everybody everybody's last name, Smith, is related to John Smith, the
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famous guy who, you know, Pocahontas, et cetera.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is wrong about all this stuff.
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Right.
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But he uses this idea about Phil Mudd in order to justify what he thinks he gets to do now.
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Well, when you start getting talk like that from people like him, kind of changes the
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rules of engagement a little bit, doesn't it?
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No.
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And that doesn't mean we're going to go out and do anything violent.
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Yes, it does.
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Just means we know who we're dealing with now.
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So we're starting to have to think about how we guard ourselves for true.
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Guard yourself for real.
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Kind of opens up those parts of the brain.
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Everybody tries to keep back in the warehouse under curtains, under sheets, locked up in
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those crates.
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Are we around a fucking campfire right now?
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Because a lot of people aren't scared of violence or war.
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They like it.
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And little boys like Muddy, who never actually did anything like that, is a fool.
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But who's a greater fool?
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Those that don't know history, or those that do know history, and then let it repeat.
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Alex seems to imply that he knows history.
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And I would remind you that he thinks that all these fake Thomas Jefferson quotes are
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real.
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He believes that his name is Mud comes from this based on a fucking Nick Cage movie.
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I would say what's worse is him.
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He is worst.
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Yeah, Alex is worst.
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That's the definite answer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So we've had earlier Alex saying that as long as he takes out the globalists, Trump is totally
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fine to have a dynasty.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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It seems to be against literally everything you stand for.
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Ever.
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And in this next clip, I think that this is why you need to...
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These next two clips, I would say, are like you need to still pay attention to Alex in
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the present day.
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Like you and I, at least.
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And that is this first clip.
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He sort of let slip some very white identity ideas.
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So your culture and your very genetics.
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Yeah, playing that song underneath that speech should be a crime.
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That should be against the law.
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If you never see the light of day, you'll...
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Jaunty ass carnival ass music.
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What are we doing?
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Fucking I'm going to give you a nightmarish hellscape speech with Devo playing behind
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me.
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And we know enough from context and Alex's entire worldview and rhetoric that when he's
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talking about your culture and your very genetics, he's talking about whites.
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You're talking about white identity.
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Yep.
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Like that's what he like.
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So that's really fucked up.
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And then it gets even more fucked up in this next clip.
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In terms of the fact that, you know, he's in danger if he doesn't start using his bully
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pulpit and declaring national state of emergency and suspend Congress and arrest them.
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These usurpers, these fraudsters, these liars and cheaters.
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If he doesn't get aggressive and take the offense and deal with them and arrest them,
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he could be taken down entirely.
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His life is at stake.
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He's like he's created a space and a show where callers call in and advocate for Trump
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suspending Congress.
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That's crazy.
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And just basically be like, fuck it, I'm going to do all this dictator shit.
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He's done such a poor job of teaching his audience anything about civics, anything about
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the reality of the things that he advocates for.
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You know, like anything, everything that he talks about is so superficial and so stupid
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and so based on nothing that he has just a bunch of radicalized listeners who think they're
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anti-tyranny and simultaneously think Trump should suspend Congress to arrest his political
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enemies, the usurpers.
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We're going to go to I'm going to go to the secretary of history over here.
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Whenever somebody has said we must destroy the republic to save the republic, has it
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historically gone well?
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I know that there is one great literary historical source by
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Nicholas Cage.
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George Lucas.
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George Lucas.
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That's the worst.
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There it was.
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Yeah, there's no good.
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There's no good when when you have this being parroted to to back from your audience.
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You have failed.
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You have failed miserably.
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I mean, just just engaging with what what she just said is like, lady, do you have you
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like why do you even live here if you hate America that much?
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She doesn't hate America.
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She hates the usurpers.
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No, she really hates the usurpers.
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She loves what America stands for, which is whiteness.
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And I really don't think so.
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So in this next clip, Alex said something.
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This is the closest I've ever been to thinking he was about to talk about us over the top.
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I thought about not playing and not giving it attention.
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But the people that gave me the info were so distressed about what they learned that's
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involved in not just this production, but others are right.
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People need to know what's going on.
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That's coming up.
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I'm not going to tell you about it till I play it.
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So I thought I thought for sure that really does sound like us.
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Yeah, it could be like it's finally time for him to hit the button.
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But it's not.
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He doesn't end up talking about us.
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But I actually I honestly don't know what that's about.
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Like, does he not play a clip after that?
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By the end of the episode, he hasn't made it clear what this is about.
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But I think it's about him believing that some movies are coming out on maybe on Netflix.
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I don't know.
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That might have something to do with framing Alex for causing violent attacks or something.
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I don't know.
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He's very nonspecific about it.
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But I think that's what it's in reference to.
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Right.
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Some movie that might be in production that might be framing Alex.
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That makes far more sense than him talking about a very real thing.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately, it got my heart racing.
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Yeah, it's time.
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Yeah, the guns are drawn.
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But alas, it's not to be.
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So Alex gets another dumb caller and this guy is into QAnon.
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You can tell if you pay attention.
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Oh, I agree.
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I think this is going to be a great awakening for the American people who are living in
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their bubbles and their CNN and MSNBC concubines.
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It's going to be like, wow, this is actually happening.
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So you got the great awakening language.
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Did he say concubines?
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I think he did.
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It might have meant enclaves.
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But he said the great awakening, which is a key phrase for QAnon.
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And then also this idea of everybody who watches the mainstream media are going to have this
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terrifying moment because they've been in their concubines or whatever.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And it's going to be a real like wake up of it.
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Oh, no, it's all real.
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Yeah.
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Those are both big themes.
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Man, those days are just not coming, man.
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I am so sorry.
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I'm very curious to see if he's going to move quickly on the 28,000 sealed indictments that
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he has.
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I mean, that's 27,000 more indictments than Obama had that were sealed.
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I think there could be like a Rico deep state move that he has to make.
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I mean, this deep state's been in since the 1930s since we sold our country out of the
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Federal Reserve and the central bank.
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Oh, boy, three senators.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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And that the sealed indictment stuff, that's all the QAnon shit, too.
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Like this guy is just spouting straight up Q shit.
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Alex doesn't even realize.
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Uh, Jesus.
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Or doesn't care because he kind of wants to co-opt that a little.
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He said the 28,000.
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He said this.
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I don't think he's used that high of a number, but he has talked about like McCabe being
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secretly indicted.
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But earlier in the episode, Alex is saying he doesn't want to hear this kind of talk
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because, you know, these things keep talking about it.
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It never comes.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is poorly prepared on this episode because it's an episode of his show.
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Right.
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Very poorly prepared.
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Right, right, right.
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But that doesn't stop him.
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Because it's a day of the week.
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That doesn't stop him from talking about how he prepares too well.
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I don't think so.
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Man, I have this tendency to get really prepared for the show.
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And they didn't even turn your ringer off.
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I may just have to host some of the war room today with Owen.
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There I'm so, well, no, let me do this.
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Let me do this.
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Let me come back because I promise I'd do this.
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And let me start getting into all these reports and all these clips.
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He's in the fourth hour at this point.
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This is the fourth hour of his show.
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And he's like, let me get to the news.
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Maybe I'll take over Owen's show because I haven't done any of the work I meant to do
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on my own show because I rambled about the three little fucking pigs.
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That is the most I have ever identified with Alex in my entire life of him being like,
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eh, I think I'm going to go do this thing.
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But nope, that seems hard.
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So we're not going to do that.
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Yeah.
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That's the most I'm going to go to the gym, right?
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No, I won't pass.
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So Alex starts playing a bunch of clips of Trump's rally the night before.
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And you know, one of the clips that he plays is based on Trump saying that if Hillary had won,
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China would be number one in the world right now.
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They'd be the greatest, the biggest economy.
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Sure.
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And Alex talks about what the plans were.
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By the way, we were slated to be like the number three economy by now after the EU and China.
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Now we're the number one oil producer exporter.
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It's like flipping a light switch.
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We've been set up.
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So number one oil exporter.
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Great.
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That's not true.
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Not even close.
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Of course not.
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Saudi Arabia is the top oil exporter in the world by a long shot.
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By a wide margin.
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You could add the US oil exports to the number two country in the world, which is Russia,
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and you'd still be lower than Saudi Arabia.
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Exports of crude oil have definitely jumped dramatically in this country since 2015.
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But if you're looking for someone to credit for that, Trump's not your guy.
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While president Obama lifted a ban on exporting crude oil that had been in place since 1975.
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That ban was put in place in response to the 1973 oil crisis,
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where OPEC countries placed an embargo on oil sales to countries they felt were supporting
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Israel in the Yom Kippur War.
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The price of oil shot through the roof and the US decided that we needed to do whatever
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we could to make sure we'd have a steady supply of oil that wasn't vulnerable to those sorts
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of actions.
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And thus the export ban was put into place, much to the chagrin of oil companies who didn't
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care about any of this bullshit.
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They just wanted to sell their oil for the highest profit possible.
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And because of that, Jimmy Carter was roundly blamed and so on and so forth.
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When people talk about us being an exporter of oil, now a net exporter of oil, that doesn't
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mean that we're not still buying tons of it and importing it.
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Yeah.
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It just means that big oil companies are taking the oil they dig up and refine domestically
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and sell some of it elsewhere.
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While we're also, you know, you and I, we still end up paying for imported oil.
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Oh yeah.
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This is a shitty development, quite frankly, unless you're making money off it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I would say probably everything involved with fossil fuels now is a shitty development,
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unless you're making money off of it.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets into playing some clips of people having an argument at an abortion rally, which
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great.
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Yeah.
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Do you want to do man on the street interviews next?
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Super important, relevant, hard-hitting news.
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I think abortion's bad.
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I think abortion's bad.
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I don't know.
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This is relevant.
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This is riveting radio.
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Stop the presses.
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People are arguing at an abortion rally.
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Can't imagine.
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So while playing the clip, Alex starts editorializing about how one of the women who is anti-abortion
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is not attractive.
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So like he's just decided that she's a social worker and what he's doing there is like,
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I don't know if she is.
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I don't know if she's not, I don't really care, but he says, find out who she is.
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Yeah.
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He's asking his audience to dox this woman.
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Yeah.
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So cool.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would caution you, Alex, against doing anything like that again.
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It just seems like you can't even help yourself.
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It's just how he operates.
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So whenever there's like these protestations that he's making about the Sandy Hook accusations
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and stuff, it's like, there's a million examples of you doing exactly the behavior.
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You're still doing it.
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Yeah.
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The last Friday you're like, Hey, someone find out who this girl is in this video.
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I'm putting out a $50,000 bounty on.
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And it's not because you want to have a discourse with her.
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No, no.
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God, Barnes just hears so much, so much.
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But less money, just more advertising for the Free America Law Center.
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That's fair.
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So Alex jumps from insulting this woman at the abortion rally and then jumps over to
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wanting to play some videos of whites being attacked outside the Trump rally by Somalis.
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Really doesn't feel like that's as well.
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There's racist attacks going on around Trump rallies, Jordan.
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The whites are under attack and it's time for all good men to come to the aid of the
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party.
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And I'm only playing this because Alex is unsuccessful in playing his clip and he's
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really mad.
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Let's start rolling what happened last night in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
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And most of these were racial attacks.
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Here it is after the Trump rally.
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The compilation, yeah.
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Who wouldn't turn the audio up?
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So again, just white people being chased down, being attacked everywhere.
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All of this being escalated.
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I guess there's no audience.
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There's just so much cussing and big piles of people's hats being taken and then being
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burned.
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And they had all these big ceremonies where they burned American flags.
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So we're going to come back from break with the rest of this.
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It's no big deal.
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I wanted it with audio, so just scratch it.
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Just abort it.
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It's not a baby.
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We don't want to play the video.
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That's enough.
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Thank you.
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Appreciate it.
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Take it down now.
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He's real mad there.
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I wanted it with audio.
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Bye.
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No big deal.
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We can abort it.
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Why is it that every fucking time we had a clip of him in 2013?
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Just so furious.
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No, that's fine.
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No, that was in the present day.
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That was about trying to play the South Park clip.
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I thought it was on our last episode, but yeah, you're right.
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And you know what it is?
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Yeah.
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I if I had to give a theory.
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He's fired everybody that knows how to do anything.
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People have left.
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Yeah.
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I think that he has a crew that is not nearly as good or as smooth as it used to be.
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And he's pretty mad about how it's like, well, it's causing hiccups in the thing.
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I want you to play this clip.
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You pull the wrong clip.
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I can't prove it, but it would be exactly what you would see if Alex is working with
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a thinned out staff or people who knew what they were doing have been like, we got to
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get out of here, which is exactly what I would have predicted after he does an everything
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must go sale or any of these other sales or is him saying on air, we won't exist in a
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year.
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Yeah.
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That's what you would expect.
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Competent people are going to leave.
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I'm yeah, no, it's a thank you for agreeing to interview me.
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I am.
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I'm a radio producer.
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I just had to leave my old job.
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What was my old job?
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You know, let's not talk about that.
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OK, so there is a it looks like there's a 12 year gap on my resume.
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It looks like that.
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You would you would rather pretend that you worked for Lord Haha.
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Yeah, yeah.
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As opposed to like, I worked for Alex Jones.
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Anyway, Alex, I think, has found a new source of revenue.
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I think that he's found a new sponsor because there is paying and neutering your pets.
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No, I do not believe what you're about to hear is unpaid programming.
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I have a very strong sense that Alex is reading copy here because he's being paid to now.
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Free speech TV is doing a lot of great work, and I'm really excited to be able to talk
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about them. Yeah.
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McGinnis is back with his new online TV network, Free Speech TV.
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Oh, man, Gavin, to see his daily show.
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Get off my lawn.
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Wow.
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Find Joe Biggs, Milo Yiannopoulos shelf and the new show Free Speech, where Gavin
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interviews a liberal and a conservative.
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Notably, not you.
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Uh, yeah, that really that's like the worst Harry's razor ad you ever heard on a podcast.
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That is bad.
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That seems like ad copy for sure.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, just that.
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Like, that's classic.
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Gavin McGinnis is back with his new great show.
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Get off my lawn.
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Like that.
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That's the kind of thing where Alex, you better be getting paid for that because that's bad.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Yeah, it makes sense.
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You know, Gavin's trying to rebrand himself a little bit and he wants to at least
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hold on to anybody who might be inclined to come along with his new adventure.
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I don't know.
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It makes sense that this would be ad.
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Yeah.
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No, I think he got paid for that.
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It's it's kind of surprising to me how obviously an ad it was like.
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I get he I get maybe if they were trying to do that, like
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content that goes in there and it's kind of like buzz marketing and it fits in there.
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But if you give him copy and then are like, well, just kind of fit it in wherever you want.
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He's an old fashioned radio dude, man.
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He's going to read ad copy like fucking ad copy.
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This is that's part of his blood.
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So I think that's a commercial.
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But, you know, in addition to that, as a new source of revenue,
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he also has the Everything Must Go sale going on right now.
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And I have some bad news.
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It's not going.
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The sale might get him in some trouble.
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Please remember, we have the new Everything Must Go sale
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as big as the last sale that was our biggest since Christmas,
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because I just want to sell out of everything.
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But some of these are even better sales.
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It's 30 to 70 percent off because some things are 30.
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But the sign says 40 to 70 off free shipping, double Patriot points.
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It's amazing.
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That's explicitly false advertising against the yeah.
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It's 40 to 70 percent off with some of its 30.
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No, then it's not 40 to 70 percent.
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I didn't check the website to see if there's like fine print or anything on the
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on the big banner that says 40 to 70 percent off.
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But if you're advertising 40 to 70 percent off everything and some things are 30 percent off,
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that's misleading advertising.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, fucking nobody's coming after it for that.
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Certainly not.
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Much like the church's.
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Yeah.
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No one's coming after him.
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And I honestly think you would have to buy something from him to have standing to complain.
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I don't know.
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Whatever he'd have to pay for that violation is pretty small.
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But it's just, you know, it's just dishonest.
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It's which is par for the course.
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Yep. So Alex finishes off the show with a couple more calls.
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So he's trying to take pretty quick, trying to get some calls in because he realizes
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you get some juice before you get out.
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He's only talked to a couple of people and he was pretending he was going to spend all
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day taking credit.
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And this first guy is absolutely 100 percent member of Christian identity.
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Hi, Alex.
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I really appreciate your appetite for action today.
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The ancient American scripture clearly states that the son of the living God, Jesus Christ
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of Nazareth, is the God of this land.
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And he authored our Constitution for the United States through many raised up for that purpose.
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He gave us all the tools necessary in the Constitution to restore the republic.
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Yeah.
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So that's a Christian identity, dude.
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Yeah.
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You know, look, those people need to be kept in a pen.
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Those people need to be kept in a pen.
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I don't know if that's right.
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That's bananas.
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I'm not siding with you on that.
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Well, for a while while they get to.
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I don't know, man.
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I don't know what the answer is.
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Wild.
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You know, your your knee jerk reaction of like you got to reeducate people or something.
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I know.
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I know that that's not necessarily a good solution, but I don't know what the solution
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is.
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I'm opposed to your solution, but I don't have a clue.
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I mean, the only thing that I've got is cult deprogramming.
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Beyond that, I mean, you know, you'd hope that individually this would be able to be
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handled by loved ones of folks that like you're going down this probably also you're going
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down this path where you believe that the Bible is an ancient American scripture.
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Yeah, we need to talk.
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Yeah, you'd hope that people a lot of people don't have the support networks that are able
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to to help with this.
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What if we just gave him Florida like just give it to him?
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That's not an answer.
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I feel like that's it's better than the pen.
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Steve Pachannik will lead a war against these invading Christian identity people if they
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try and come down to Florida.
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Fine with that.
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So we get one last call here.
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And what do you know?
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It's another guy trying to promote Maxime Bernier.
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Yeah, man, I'm sure the Russians are not sure if impeachment is inevitable, but in the vein
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of 1736 worldwide and how Maxime Bernier is a lover of all races, lover of the human race,
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populist nationalist Canada up in Canada.
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Don't even say it if it's true.
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If he wins, I'll put good pressure on developments in the United States and this international
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fierce fight for freedom.
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And I can call back.
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Obviously, you know, they did.
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No, I'm glad Canada's fired up.
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We got a big election coming up.
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Everybody in the US should call folks in Canada and tell them vote for the Patriot candidate.
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OK, so now Alex is promoting this guy.
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He doesn't even know anything about that, except a couple of callers have called him
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a classical liberal.
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Well, two callers called him a classical right.
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So we got to get him in.
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So he's the new Wilders or Le Pen for Alex or Bolsonaro.
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As far as an unofficial poll, that is 100 percent in favor of this guy.
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So how can you it's the will of the people, Dan.
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We've got to get Canada's Trump in there.
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Yeah.
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So I think that's really interesting the way that this is now seeming to be pushed on Alex's
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show.
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Yeah.
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I know that he doesn't necessarily control the callers or anything, but you've got to
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assume that, like, if there is this much representation of the people who call into his show that
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are specifically calling in to try and get the message out about Bernier, then that means
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something.
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They know that he might be somebody that appeals to the Infowars audience.
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Yeah.
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And that to me is not a good sign that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That lets you know everything you need to know if you're courting the Infowars audience.
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That's all I need to hear about.
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It means to me I got a red flag on this guy.
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Yeah, I'm going to put a big red flag up there.
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I'm going to be worried about it.
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I think that's a flag factory that only makes red flags.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, we get to the end of this and like like I said earlier, I wanted to try
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and cover more ground.
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I wanted to try and cover a couple episodes, but Sunday, Mike Adams host, so like, get
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out.
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Fuck off.
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And then I turned on Monday's show and I was listening to it and it was very clear that
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the whole thing was going to be about James O'Keefe's new stunt.
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Oh, no.
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How is he still in Latin?
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Right.
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I had that same response.
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It's like, I can't spend more time doing another one of these.
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Yeah, I'm not doing it.
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Like, it's just, he's entered that sort of rarefied air of like Jacob Wall lives there.
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Yeah.
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Where it's just like, he's talking, he means he's talking shit.
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Yeah.
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Don't worry about his stupid distractions.
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We've done this a hundred times.
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Yeah.
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And so whenever Alex is talking about like, I'm going to talk to James O'Keefe for two
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hours today, like, I'm not listening to that.
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Yeah.
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And then his other big thing was about that meme of Trump.
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Oh, whenever he's, uh, they had him cutting off people's heads from Kingsman.
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Yeah.
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And Alex's whole like defense about that is, eh, it's a meme.
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I don't really care.
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Cool, that's fine.
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Engage with that.
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Whatever.
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And then the other one is like, it's like a year old and like, well, that doesn't really
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address the fact that this was, you know, recently, you know, it's, it's just, who cares?
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I'm not going to descend to the level of bickering about memes with Alex.
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So I just, I heard that.
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I saved that for Carpe Donctum.
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Sure.
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I heard that and I was like, I don't, I don't care.
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I'm not, I don't care about this Monday episode.
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It's very, it was very bad.
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And at the same time, I think that this one's much more interesting.
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Alex isn't a completely fucked up state.
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He talks a bunch of nonsense.
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Oh yeah.
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And then at the same time you hear like these real like actual things that are troubling.
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You know, it's fine if Trump has a dynasty, callers advocating that, uh, Trump, uh, uh,
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suspend Congress.
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And that just flies on the show and, uh, advocating, uh, the election of this Canadian guy that
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he knows nothing about.
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I guess there's real world trouble here, uh, mixed in with the insanity of the three little
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pigs.
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Lackadaisical, uh, unprofessional laziness, uh, combined with a certain mood swing down
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that's saying we gotta kill people.
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You got, we can't, we can't do work.
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We can't do work, no, he said we can't do rhetoric anymore.
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You have to go further.
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Yeah.
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Like that's pretty much saying.
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It's debatable whether he's talking about Trump or other people when he's making those
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sorts of messages.
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That's fair.
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So if he's talking specifically about Trump, then you could conceivably think that what
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he means is executive orders, legislation or whatever.
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I know that he's not, and that's not the message he wants his audience to hear, but you could
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use that as a defense.
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I can see that for sure.
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But, but that's, that's like a, it's weird if it, sometimes it seems like just his mood
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swings are enough to get people killed.
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Like just the inability to handle any kind of adversity at all.
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And it's good that it seems like it doesn't happen regularly.
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Yeah, no, that's nice.
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But yeah, his mood swings do absolutely dictate the tenor and tone of this show.
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Yeah.
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And that's like, I don't know, that alone, that alone should kind of disqualify it
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for being okay.
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That's something that should exist.
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But we'll be back on Friday, Jordan.
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I think we will, Dan.
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We'll have a new episode of something or other.
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Most likely.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Do we?
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Yep.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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I heard that.
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That is true.
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I heard that.
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Are we on Twitter?
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We are.
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Oh yeah?
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Yeah.
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At knowledge underscore fight and you're at go to bed Jordan.
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And I'm pretty sure we're on Facebook.
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Yeah, we are.
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And we're also, word on the street is we're on iTunes.
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We are on iTunes.
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We are also wherever podcastual apps are sold.
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It would be nice if you downloaded, left a review, et cetera.
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Tell your friends about it.
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We love having a party.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am Benjamin Franklin Gates.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
