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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying

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we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we

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are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are

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Let's just let him out that I guess that's the hell in the cell Seth Rollins had a sledgehammer and the ref said no no

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No, no

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Meanwhile I grew up watching like Triple H. His weapon of choice was a sledgehammer. Yeah, you always carry on this

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It's like this is ridiculous. So anyway, that'll that'll dissuade me from ever actually doing a wrestling

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Yeah, yeah bad taste in my mouth. I got from I don't even watch that much wrestling anymore

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I just like randomly checked in on Sunday. Yeah, I was like, whoo. This is disaster. Not great. Oh, no, not great

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that's that stinks because now that everybody is a

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Pretty well versed in not just the the wrestling match

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But also the meta games played above it on the on the writing letter

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It seems like they have far more freedom to do what whatever they want and ending in a disqualification in a cell matches

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That's bad. Yeah

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When sort of that the kayfabe is gone. Yeah, everyone kind of understands there's a storytelling

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No one's trying to pretend it's actually people fighting each other. Yeah, it does introduce a like well, that was a decision. Yeah

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Yeah, yeah, you you thought about that in advance yeah, it's strange

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Yeah, anyway, this is a podcast where I know quite a bit about I guess hell in a cell from the other night

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Yeah, I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know anything about either correct

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But it doesn't matter Jordan because today we are taking a long overdue wacky Wednesday break to finally

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To finally get back to project Camelot land to check in with old sweary Carrie Cassidy. Oh, yeah

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Carrie Cassidy is a

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Woman who goes around and interviews space weirdos who claim to have been to space have a lot of interactions with space

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Or just have a telescope one guy who works at a bus station has a telescope and she's interviewed interviewed him

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Man her roster is not good not deep I was going through it and there's just man

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There's such lunatics that she's talked to

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But her main lunatic the main person her biggest source is a guy named Mark Richards who is in prison for a masterminding a murder

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They absolutely committed. Yes, she claims that he's innocent and so does he

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He was he was off-planet at the time. We will get into that a little bit. Yes, that is rehashed

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Yeah, of course it is as always I imagine so and he he tells Carrie stories about how he's a secret space program

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captain and

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One of the greatest heroes that humanity has ever known 100% and she believes everything he tells her his father is the Dutchman

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Flying Dutchman. Yep. Yep. I can't remember his real first name, but he's got an invisible

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Visible artificial and intelligent was it artificial intelligence or was it regular intelligence?

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It's I think it's a regular intelligent is a sentient spacecraft. Yeah Minerva. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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There's a lot of details. We'll get into some yeah, and if you want to know more about it

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We have a bunch of episodes about him, but this is the 11th interview and it's very exciting

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We've been waiting for a long time for Gary to do anything worth going over. Oh, yeah, and so here we are

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But before we get down to that great excitement

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We should take a little moment Jordan to say thank you to people who have signed up and are supporting the show

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We appreciate that very much. So first of all, thank you so much William. Thank you so much Rochelle and thank you so much

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Yeah, I'm not going on hate Rion. I

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don't even know if that still exists, but

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Anyway, Jordan, we're gonna get down to business. Let's do it first. Here's an out-of-context drop from today's show

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Now who you gonna call when you go to war with ET?

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Ghostbusters

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Oh

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Drew Barrymore, no, you do not ask who you're gonna call if the answer is not the Ghostbusters

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It's in the song

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And it seemed like she was saying it without the real knowledge of what she was doing I can't imagine that I

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Really feel like who you're gonna call. Who are you gonna cry? No, I should you call

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I bet if you asked her she'd be like, I don't know what Ghostbusters is

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Well, the answer isn't Ghostbusters if you're gonna fight ET. Okay. I assume it's the secret space program. It's probably mark

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Yeah, so here we go. Let's jump in with very standard

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Episode introduction from Carrie. Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from project Camelot. Hi Carrie today

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I'm gonna be covering my latest interview with Captain Mark Richards of the secret space program and

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I interviewed him in the beginning of September. However, I've had multiple issues with both computers and

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the

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various

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Renditions I've tried to do of this

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little talk and

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Now I'm trying this all over again. So here we go. And hopefully this will work

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So apparently she has recorded this a couple times. Yeah. Yeah, that is important. It definitely comes into play. Okay, okay

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So she's delayed in this she has gone to visit Mark Richards

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Maybe like a month ago or so and now she's finally being able to get this information out. Right, right

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And that's great as we know every single time the Carrie comes back from visiting Mark Richards. She can't record any audio

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She can't record video. So all we have to go on is her memory of things right, but thankfully the

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The prison people don't allow her to have a pen. I know but she does get a small pencil

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So what happens is I am only allowed a pencil small pencil to take notes with so

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This is called total recall 11. This is my 11th interview with Captain Mark Richard

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So what happens is what I go into the prison and what is she just got around three hours?

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sometimes longer I think this time it was around three hours and I

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Am able to ask him as many questions as I can even think of although

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I'm not allowed to take any notes into the prison

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So if I didn't remember to ask a question that you requested I do apologize. I

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Don't I mean, I guess that kind of makes sense. You don't want to let someone bring in some rise like information, right?

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Right, I can maybe see that that flow. Can you bring in your phone? I think they probably confiscated

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Yeah, they would I would assume so otherwise you can use your notes. Oh, yeah

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If you're going to talk to a cult leader

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Slash a murderer, right? Right. Maybe they don't want you to have your phone with that's probably a good idea

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So you responded exactly as I hoped you might to that jump cut. There's a huge jump cut there

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Yeah

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Oh, yeah, and this has to do with what Carrie said in the introduction that she's having difficulties. There's clearly tech problems going on

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Okay, but then there's also like you'll see a theme developing that she's just editing this very weirdly

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Yeah, this broadcast that she is she's putting out

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Yeah, I have some theories about that and we'll get to them as this goes along

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But what's important is that Mark Richards is not a murderer right as we know to be

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Sure, sure, sure proven in the the court system all evidence confessions of his conspirators know all of these things not true

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He was not he was framed for murder

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And for everybody who hasn't heard all of the Mark Richards episodes here is Carrie explaining the situation

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Okay in the beginning. I want to say this

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Sort of there was the word this interview takes place in prison in Northern, California

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and

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For over 35 years. Captain Mark Richards has been and still is a prisoner of war in the war

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Between on and off planet races that have dominated earth for centuries

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he is an honorable officer of the Navy who because of his rebellion against the Draco and

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Reptoids which is called the Luciferian Alliance is considered a threat to their operations

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He was framed for a murder. He is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off-planet

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In service to humanity, of course

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He was a captain of a starship Enterprise type vessel from an a very early age. In fact

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Probably early 20s and even earlier than that

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until he was arrested in I believe it was 1982 and

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Framed for murder as a mastermind

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Again he is framed for a murder

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He is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off-planet in service to humanity

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You hear that that's just exactly repeating what she had just said that's because there's another jump cut there where she's like redoing

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This what is going on? I have a big theory about this

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So my first thought when we got the first jump cut was she called the prison guards like Zionists or something like that

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That would be my first thought is like oh, she's cutting out a lot of weird shit. I think

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There's good reason for you to think that I don't know. I don't think that's the case. Okay, but based on what we know

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The different picture that we have of her from when we started

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Yeah, I think she she might believe some things like that. I don't think that that's the case

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Yeah, I think that I think this is just clunky editing. Yeah, she's going to create a conspiracy out of it

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Oh, do you think she's doing it on purpose? And okay, I do just shitty at editing. Yes. Gotcha. I gotcha

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Okay, and I think she keeps this speaking because there's a there's a an instance of this later where she uses the wrong

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Name for someone and then there's immediately a jump cut

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So like it's pretty clear to me that what's going on is that she's fucking up her script

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yeah, and then she's poorly editing the pieces together and then after the fact is like inserting an

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Explanation for it. She's gonna end up blaming aliens. Oh, yeah. No, of course, of course

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I feel like I can tell you that now cuz it's kind of implied right, right. I'm not worried about that

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Yeah, I have not experienced this in other interviews of hers these like this like high level

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Yeah of just terrible presentation this editing the the slip ups and like like at the end of that

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she she says that he was framed for this murder because he was off planet in service of humanity a

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Small pause and then it the exact same thing again. It's like this is just you need to smooth this out

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Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it indicates a lack of care about the product you're putting

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Yeah, when you have this level of and like hey, you know, like if it's this bad and there's like

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Jump cuts to the point where just anybody listening is like what's going on? Yeah. What are you PJ dubs rerecord it?

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I know this is only an hour-long video. Well, she's already tried to record it a few times. Do I believe that Jordan?

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It's a long time. I believe that an hour. How long does that even take Dan about an hour? Yeah

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It's a one-to-one measurement

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So now we get down to the substance of what's going on

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This has all been prelude up to this point sure and now Carrie gets into

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I don't know if this is the big deal, but it takes up a bunch of her time

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And that is that she has run into a super soldier that we are kind of aware of that

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We've talked about in the past and he has a half-brained

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Hairbrained idea. Oh, okay. So the first

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Real topic that we discussed is the Randy Cramer situation

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revisiting the alien false flag scenario and

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I told mark briefly about that idea and

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Randy Cramer is again a super soldier u.s

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Marine and he was also speaking at the young conference with me and other speakers and

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Hopefully that footage will be available in the near future fingers crossed. I'd love to see that cover. It's amazing

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That'll be awesome. Um, so we got Randy Cramer who is actually the subject of our first project and write up

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Right discovered mark Richard. Yes. Yeah, who is a super soldier and he has come out and he's talking about the alien false flag

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Scenario, okay

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And I will just probably try and explain this to you right now because it's really hard to put together from what Carrie's saying

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naturally the bottom line here is

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that she believes that

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Randy Cramer is coming out to this conference that the two of them were speaking at and discussing on behalf of his military

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handlers share the idea of

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Precipitating an alien false flag in order to force disclosure. Okay. Okay disclosure of what alien exist

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Oh, okay. Okay. So all right, we need the world to understand that there's aliens and there's battles going on

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Down the street right understand. No, no over Lake Michigan right now do there are Stargate. There is a

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Happening there are Stargates everywhere. Anytime you see inclement weather. That's not a storm

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Oh, yeah cover for an alien battle. Have you ever known anybody with cancer?

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Actually spider venom probably. Yeah, so

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Giant spider better because of that because that's the real-world situation that we're dealing with we need disclosure

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Yeah of the alien so all humans can be aware of this stuff. However

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The evil powers that be the globalists the New World Order the Illuminati

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Yeah, you do not want to disclose all this stuff because if it is disclosed

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Humanity and the population will learn that they've been hoarding all of the secret technology for themselves

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Right free energy all the miracle cure. Yeah

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I

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Guess probably alchemy who knows. Oh, yeah, of course

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So all this stuff is alien technology that they've stolen for themselves will be revealed

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Yeah, and then there will be a lynch mob out on the street trying to like why did you keep this technology from us?

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Yeah, yeah, so in order to peacefully

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peacefully

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Do this

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They need to have an alien false flag

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They need to have a fake version of aliens appearing in order to explain this technology being rolled out

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Randy Kramer is coming out and saying that his military handlers or whatever. Yeah are

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Allowing him to start talking about that it it's convoluted

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That's why even just playing clips of Carrie talking about this right really make it make sense

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Okay, but that's what she's talking about. Okay, that's Randy Kramer's

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Input into this bullshit. Yeah, it is it is always fun to me how

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one the plans of their perceived enemies are

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Terrible, they're just they make no sense, right?

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It's stupid and now admittedly I would feel betrayed if I found out that like fucking Nancy Pelosi has all kinds of secret technology

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That would bum me out right but to their schemes to counter the ridiculous schemes are

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Far more ridiculous on top of that totally they wouldn't it's amazing

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Um the other the shitty at planning coming and going the other part of this too

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Is that like okay some of these miracle cures that Randy Kramer talks about involve age regression, right?

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They like eternal youth that kind of thing

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Why would David Rockefeller end up being like a super unhealthy 90 year old dude if he had access to this?

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This light extension age regression technology public face

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He takes the mask off when he gets home always come on. I'll come crazy mission impossible outcomes razor tells me you're correct

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so this leads into talking about this situation a little bit more and how the

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Carrie might not call it the globalists. They call it like the secret space whatever

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Yeah, the Illuminati for implies that kind of thing, right? They have all of this

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this technology and

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so this leads into like

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The dynamics of the disclosure stuff

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He was talking about the military's frustration

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with our current standstill on planet Earth with regard to disclosure and

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The fact that they have a very high state of technology

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In the secret space program that they have been unable to release into the public domain

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In part because disclosure has not happened here on earth. I thought it was come that is making everything much more difficult

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So what we have is a rogue civilization which involves the US military and the secret space program

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the Illuminati and various other factions including various et races sure and

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Therefore they are operating on

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basically

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What can even be considered to be?

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Thousands of years in advance of what we are currently dealing with here on planet

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I was a sows surface or do you mean it's called none. So this is a big deal and

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Randy Cramer military are now coming up with a solution that has to do with revisiting this idea of a

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Of a false flag alien invasion right or project blue beam, of course what it's been known by in the past

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Only thing that makes sense or a fake alien invasion

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So this is the the solution here. Uh, yes, sir. Have you ever heard of project blue beam?

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It comes up all the fucking time. Why would I have heard of project blue beam? Maybe if you know things fair enough

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Maybe if you're a researcher, I am not it's one of the biggest most popular

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Sort of things within UFO conspiracy paranormal communities and the first thing that I should point out to you

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I think this is very important about project blue beam. It's not a real thing

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Yeah, the name refers to a project that a guy named Serge Monast claimed to be a fake alien

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It refers to a project that a guy named Serge Monast claimed exists

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But no evidence to support the claim has ever been presented

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According to Monast, in order to fully bring in the new world order

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The bad guys first need to create a new age religion to replace the religions people currently subscribe to

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But it also seems like he's mostly interested in talking about the bringing down of christianity

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Yeah, if you look at his primary sources, it seems all about destroying christianity

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The other world religions are kind of just an afterthought that need to go down. This is mostly targeted at christianity

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So he wants to destroy christianity or oh, he's whistle-blowing on this project

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Sure. Sure. Sure. That seems to be his primary focus the destruction of christianity

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In order to achieve this goal

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They need to destroy these current religions

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Which the bad guys would do with targeted earthquakes at specific sites around the world

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Which would ultimately unearth evidence that contradicts the known world religions

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This would be a dumb plan since most religious belief is not based on empirical evidence

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And it isn't really susceptible to that kind of counterpoint. Also. It's a simpsons episode. Well, we'll get to that

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Either way even the simpsons did fucking space weirdo shit god

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Either way once this new world religion is in place the nwo would then use holograms to project the deities and avatars of each

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Religion to the people in the areas where that religion is prominent, right?

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So like jesus would show up in christian areas the buddha and buddhist ones muhammad and islamic ones

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I guess they'd throw a tree in for wiccans or something. I think yeah a really big one. Yeah

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Ultimately all of these avatars would then merge into one new god the god of the new world order the antichrist

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Sure, whichever one would then worship but it's all just a trick. It's all holograms

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Now now that the public accepts this new god the nwo would begin using electronic waves

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To begin projecting thoughts into people's heads making them think that god is talking to them

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This would facilitate their ultimate goal

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Which is making everyone think that a real crisis is imminent in the form of an impending alien invasion or the rapture

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Whatever form they decide to take yeah

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The people would be so scared that they would beg for the implementation of the new world order and just like that the one world

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Government is established easy is riding a riding a bike

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I I mean

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If everything goes according to plan I agree with you

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Yeah

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So longer there are zero zero mistakes along the way there that fucking rube goldberg machine of a silly plan

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There are a lot of really dumb parts to that plan probably too many to count

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Uh, and the date that this was supposed to be set into motion this plan

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It's been predicted incorrectly a lot of times

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I'm less interested in how logistically stupid this plan is and more interested in a few things

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That stick out to me that make me think that alex jones definitely believes in project blue beam

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Okay, but he's smart enough not to talk about it because he knows if he does he's gonna look like a fucking stupid space weirdo

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah first thing

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Alex definitely believes the globalists are trying to destroy christianity in order to have their own religion, right?

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He's said this a bunch of times whether it's in the form of saying that like the state is the new religion

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Or sometimes he says political correctness. Sure

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And it's always a thing where the globalists are trying to get rid of these religions because they're a threat

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Like christianity is a threat to the ability to the new world order coming into place right follows very closely with this. Uh,

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Yeah project blue beam. I believe I uh, I heard the quote from a knight's templar. Uh that religions are quote pesky

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Uh-huh. Second this supposed plan follows almost exactly the hegelian dialectic that alex is obsessed with the

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Problem reaction solution naturally, uh, and yet's how he insists the globalists operate

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They can only take power by creating chaos, which they then provide a solution to that sort of thing really fits with alex's

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Conception right, right, right third everything in this theory matches up with things that alex believes the un is behind the plans

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It involves destroying national sovereignty. It involves making all money electronic. It involves the destruction of the family unit

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It involves camps for people who won't accept the new world order. It involves the human sacrifice specifically of christian children

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It involves the literal devil being behind the new world order

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It involves movies and television shows preparing the world for the rollout of the plans predictive programming. Okay, there's heavy overlap

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That's a lot. Yeah, there's one other aspect. I might say too much maybe there's one other aspect to this

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That makes me suspect that alex believes this shit

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Most of the people who believe in this theory are basing their belief on a 1994 lecture given by surge monist

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One small point about this lecture. It's only available as a transcript published on educate yourself.org

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And I have bad news about this site

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Uh in the middle of the lecture the editor of the site interrupts to say quote at this point interrupting the transcript

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I'm compelled to include three statements from the protocols of the elders of sahana

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Compelled yeah by by whom the spirit christ

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In an effort to reinforce this monist guy his claims the natural move is to say this is right in line with the protocols

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Yeah, so I guess blue beam is being run by the jews. Yeah. Yeah, I

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How could we imagine that they weren't behind this?

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Sure, naturally in the lecture monist argues that the plan was originally to start this plan up in 1983

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Ultimately bringing in the new world order the next year which explains the name of orwell's book 1984

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There are always a lot of uh, oh he wrote the book

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That must mean that he's the one telling us what they're doing and so on and so forth

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Yes, this lecture was in 1994 and you know what that means the globalists are 10 years behind on their plans. Oh, oh no

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No

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No

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That's a claim that fucking no that's a claim that alex is so consistent in making we've joked about it a ton in the past

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Like how he randomly just says that they're 10 years behind with no citation or explanation for what he's talking about

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In my specific sources that i've been able to find that alex has referenced in other contexts

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I can't find any real concrete instances of people saying that the globalist plans are 10 years behind

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But this lecture about project blue beam now is very explicit about exactly that. No. No, stop it

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Does that mean that alex is taking his ideas from this place? Not necessarily

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But it's a possibility right it matches with this very bizarre element that we've seen. Yeah, uh, why are they 10 years behind?

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Well, I mean this project blue beam was 10 years behind very explicitly. Jesus. I don't know. Oh, man

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And this is right around when alex started his radio career. Oh god

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Yeah

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There's so much bullshit out there

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Naturally, we're gonna get coincidences and maybe it could be that maybe not even not even that maybe it could just be osmosis

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Like he's aware of these space weirdos given their 10 years and that's just filtered into his head, you know, that's possible

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But there are so many fucking ones that show up. Yeah

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It's it's entirely possible. It's just a coincidence and that a lot of people have ideas about the bad guys being 10 years behind

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Yeah, it's possible. I mean 10 is a nice round number. It certainly is. Yeah

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So carrie is listing off project blue beam as a time when the government had considered using an alien false flag in order to bring

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In control of the population and now she's learned that super soldier randy kramer along with his very real military cohorts

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Are thinking about using the same tricks to force the government's hand about alien disclosure

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So they'll be forced to release all the secret technology they've been keeping for themselves

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So we're using the nwo's plan against them new new new world order

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Obviously the first two problems that come up here are one

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There's no way randy kramer is going to be able to pull off of faking an alien invasion

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He doesn't have the resources the planning skills creativity or anything that would be needed right, right, right

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Yeah, he doesn't have these military handlers. No, this is all bullshit

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Yeah

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Second that's an issue project blue beam wasn't a real government plan and people have actually been able to trace down where serge

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monist got his ideas from uh

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okay, all the various plans that the new world order was supposedly going to be carrying out were all elements of an unproduced script that

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Gene Roddenberry had written in

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1975 in a first attempt at making star trek into a movie

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The script had been unreleased in 1975 when he had written it and it got shelved but in

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1994 just prior to monist coming out with his lecture in revelations

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Joel engel had written a book called gene roddenberry the myth and the man behind star trek

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Which had included a bunch of information about this shelved project

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Uh, though it was never made into a movie back in 1975

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Many elements of the original script were used in the 1991 star trek the next generation episode the devils do

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Which also predates monist's conspiracy theories all of this comes from star trek

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God damn it paccard

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Yeah, this is all just

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Of course of course, why wouldn't it be and the devils do is like a really highly rated episode like it's one of the like more

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uh, and it's also just about like

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captain paccard trying to get into like

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a legal arbitration against an alien

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It's it's like why isn't this a show it's awesome, but right right right, right

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Of course, we need to settle some trade disputes. Yeah. Yeah, I gotcha

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So project blue beam being used as an example is first of all, just like I mean, I love it. I love it

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I love the idea that this all just traces back to a

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Unproduced g rod. Well, I mean fucking mark richards

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Is piloted craft that was very much like, uh, the fucking uh star trek starship enterprise

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Yeah, I mean carrie said it earlier exactly. Yeah enterprise like craft it is it is never never surprising to me

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How little effort or imagination these people put into their bullshit? It's and it's crazy how overt it is

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Yeah, like this is something that even conspiracy communities and paranormal communities have called this out about

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Yeah, you don't need to go to skeptic sites to find the information about project blue beam just being a ripoff from star trek

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Right, right. You'll find that in ufo sites. They even discredit this shit. Oh, they discredit it

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Not all of them. Okay, but people who are on closer to the up and up right right for sure

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Okay, people who are a little bit more critical of information are like

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There's no way he didn't take this from that. Yeah, maybe he didn't even steal it from that

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But this information was out there. There's a really good chance that he had seen the next generation episode

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Maybe read the engles book. Yeah, uh and just incorporated it into a theory. Yeah, so

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I don't know. I think it's stupid. Uh-huh, or he uh astral projected into gene rod and berry's house

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Looked over his shoulder while he was writing that script and was like that's exactly what the nw would do exactly

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That makes sense. And then of course the problem with this whole bullshit is that like even if you bring up and point out

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All this stuff they'd be like, yeah. Well, you know what gene rod and berry was just cia. Yeah. Yeah, seven eight predictive

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Yeah, yeah, predictive programming. Yeah, absolutely. Of course that would be in a star trek episode, right?

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Because they need to prepare the world to experience, right? Right, right

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All right

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So we're trying to pull y'all are trapped

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We're trying to pull a false flag independence day is what uh is what's going on here more or less

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Um, so that's great and that'll come back up. This is going to be a theme that sort of reappears

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Of course this randy kramer coming out with false flag alien information

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Um, but before we get back to that, uh, we have some more information, uh from mark

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Okay, and this like is another trend that i'm seeing more and more of in these interviews and that is

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Trying to take anything that people could be worried about and saying it's just aliens

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Okay, and I think that you do a great disservice to reality. Oh you think yeah

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The idea here is that uh, the hidden wars

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Uh are also hidden by fires in california

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That happened in the last two years. We had fires in northern and southern california

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simultaneously

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Uh in the month, I think it was of october

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last year and that was uh in

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2018

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And also in 2017

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We're coming upon the fire season again this year. We'll see what happens

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So you've got these fires that are largely the result of climate change and and uh sort of changing ecosystems

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Yeah, yeah, and instead of dealing with that in a real way and thinking about solutions and possible ways forward

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You pretend that they're just cover-ups for alien invasions, right? That makes sense

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That's a real trend that we're going to see not just in relation to climate stuff

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But in terms of any kind of geopolitical issue everything is just aliens, man

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Yeah

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and what it does is it kind of enforces a complacency on people because if

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If in reality all of the world's issues are really just covering up alien invasions. Yeah, what can you do other than yell?

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Tell us about the aliens. Yeah, there's nothing else you can really do. There aren't avenues for productive change

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Yeah, like based on that everything is going great. There isn't international conflict, right?

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There isn't climate change humans are all in this together. We all love each other so much

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There is there are no problems except the one problem and that is fucking alien. It's a big one. It is a big one

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Yeah, now let me ask you a question. Sure

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Is there any way for us to broadcast our show to perhaps the Draco the reptoids or the raptors?

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I don't think they'd listen because I feel like that's how we could make it our show our show you and me

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We could make a difference in this fucking eternal war. Apparently sure we could try and reach detente

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I think we can do it. We could have our own little yalta conference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

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We'll set a fire in here. We'll cover it up and we'll we'll meet with the Draco my house burned down like 10 years ago

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Let's not even joke about that. I'm sorry. I'm very sensitive about house fires. I apologize

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I'm a false flag something else. Okay, um, maybe a thunderstorm. That's very nice

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So gentle rain, absolutely

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So we get back to the false flag the alien false flag scenario here naturally

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and so Carrie was at this conference with Randy and

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She apparently there was a talkback section where she got to ask some questions

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And she is not thrilled with some of Randy's responses

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I challenged Randy Cramer to a duel at well during his talk

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and

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that created something of a

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big kind of

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to do because Randy was not happy with the challenge and

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Actually, we parted as friends. So it was all in in really

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a positive light

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Light, but nonetheless I did ask him who what kind of alien they were gonna choose for this alien evasion

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And it was my first question answer the question. I asked him that several times

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She keeps asking which alien to get a pin this on and I I know I know why she was asking that

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Don't play she wanted him to say the raptors. Don't you dare blame the raptors totally

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It's it's all about doing the only thing she's trying to protect her. Uh, like, uh,

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Friendly alien races. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like tell your military people that the raptors shall not be used in this false flag situation

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Lest they get bad press right? They love humans. They just eat children for chocolate sometimes

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Yeah, you know behind the scenes, but when they're not performing you expect them to be like, hey

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Look, I know you're on your grift. I'm on my grip right? Well, we're gonna part as friends. It was great

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It was great theater we did out there

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But in reality they do go behind the scenes and they're like the raptors had nothing to do with this shit, man

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It seems like that might be the case

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Although a q a session during this conference is still kind of performance time. No, that's what i'm saying

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Yeah, that's the theater that they're doing is they're publicly showing all the other space weird

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But we're unaware of any actual like arguing behind the scenes right except for self reporting of arguing behind the scenes exactly

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Exactly. So it still all could be to an extent performative, right too

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And weirdly enough to an extent

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I think I trust carrie when she says they came away with this positively. Oh, i'm sure

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I think I trust her

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There's only so much arguing you can do about imaginary things

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Eventually, you're either gonna fight or be like, right? Listen, we both want the same thing

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Let's have a drink

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Calm down. Uh, yeah

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whatever

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Um, so this took place at the yelm conference

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Uh carrie keeps saying and uh, I I just let that slide for like the first four or five times

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She brought it up split that up the yelma yelm conference yelm

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Oh yelm conference. Yes. Okay

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So after she said it a bunch of times like randy was there and he's talking about big revelations. I decided I gotta look into this

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Yeah, I i'm I generally

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You know

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I figured

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Initially, that's like, okay. It's probably a bunch of space weirdos. They rented out a hotel conference room. What the fuck ever right?

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Right, but it wasn't a name i'd ever heard before so like let's learn a little

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The yelm cosmic symposium started in 2017 as an offshoot of the yelm ufo fest held in yelm, washington population 6800

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I've watched some promotional videos of the ufo fest and it's mostly people setting up booths to sell alien t-shirts

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And some absurd musical performances by people in absurd costumes. Love it

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It's basically basically a commercial enterprise mixed with a state fair kind of environment

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Um where people are selling like alien bobbleheads and you know that you got a picture in your head of it

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If you just imagine a state fair, but it's all alien, right, right, right. It's a it's a starship commercial enterprise. Yeah

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Yeah

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And that's kind of the sense that I got and it's it's an assessment that's borne out by a number of articles from local papers

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Right that I could find about the event. Everybody's kind of having a good time. Yeah, and it's for families, you know

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Yeah, yeah, it's like a futuristic

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Fair, uh ren fair. Yeah, and there's like people who do art and they they'll do like alien themed art for sale on site

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Great. This is wholesome fun. Yeah, it seems like a good time

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The ufo fest is free since they want families to come in and enjoy the food vendors and weird bands and overall

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Just have a good time. Yeah, while also providing the highest number possible

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Uh of potential customers for the alien merch vendors. Yeah, that's the relationship that's going on there. That's fine

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The cosmic symposium the conference is not free. That's for the hardcore guys

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Yes, gotcha an article in the daily chronicle from 2017 put the price of tickets at 250

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For a three-day pass to the symposium

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Okay, all right one of the speakers that year in 2017 was a woman named jz knight

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Who claims that she can channel a 35 000 year old warrior spirit named ramtha, right?

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Who's attracted she's attracted a large number of followers because of this she's also dropped the blueprint for indeed

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Probably important to point out that the founder of the cult education center has described jz knight's

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Uh ramtha group as fulfilling the main requirements to be called a quote destructive cult. Okay. Now that's an issue

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Yeah

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We should start there the splc reported in 2014 on videos of some of her lectures to her followers

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That included her saying things like the following quote fuck god's chosen people. I think they've earned enough cash

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I think they have earned enough cash to have paid their way out of the goddamn gas chambers by now

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Wow

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Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, so it's real cool that you don't even know what that means

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It's real cool that she's still invited to speak at this cosmic symposium three years after this came out

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jesus also earlier this year knight tried to reach out to the q anon community by saying that q was a divine intelligence naturally this

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Isn't surprising on a very basic level if a cult leader knows anything. It's how to identify vulnerable populations for potential followers

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Yeah, and the q people are the biggest game in town on that level

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Anybody who's smart right now who is a cult leader trying to sign manipulator. Yeah, absolutely

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Yeah, yeah with the absence of 8chan and uh, they're sort of guiding light, right?

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Uh, it's they're ripe for radicalization in a direction a different direction

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Yeah

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Now that q has a power vacuum fucking sweep that shit up and everybody's very important to pay attention to yeah

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And law enforcement better be watching that god

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Isn't that amazing that you can see these other parasitic cult leaders like literally trying to find like the giant q

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Section that's for them and just take it away

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Yeah, that's so wild that these people are so dumb that go from q to this bullshit

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I mean call it dumb or call it in a bad place

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Uh, yeah, possibly vulnerable. I mean look my parents were in a cult

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I know how you get into a I think vulnerable is a better way to put it because delm has such a judging con

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Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and a lot of people are in a circumstance in their life that makes them. Yeah, uh, susceptible. Sure

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Yeah, like some of it is a choice and some of it isn't people's fault when they are the victims of the sort of

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Uh malicious act by manipulators, right? Right. So I don't know I I like to

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Not presume judgment as best I can so let me I I agree with you

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on your first cult

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But if you start in cult one and then jump over to cult two that's on you. That's on you

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Maybe that's on you second cult. No, maybe but I also me once

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Shame on me. That would be nice

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But also it doesn't always work in a way where someone's in a cult and then they become completely disillusioned

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Yeah, and that's where they go from. Yeah, sometimes you're in a cult and you think like oh some of this was right

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But someone was wrong. Let me refine this. Yeah, then you join another one

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Yeah, of course. I think I think being part of one almost makes you more prone

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And vulnerable to be yeah, no and I can I can totally see where you're coming from there

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I wish it was the case that like all this was rational choices. Yeah. Yeah, but it is. I don't think absolutely

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So I mean but that has nothing to do with jay-z knight like she is a monster who's definitely no 100%

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Yeah, the people who are

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Being targeted by her get a little bit more. Uh

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Empathy, but for her I mean and like I said those videos of her yelling anti-semitic racist shit

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Came out in 2014. She was invited to the 2017

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yelm

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Uh conference the cosmic symposium. Yeah. No, you scratch all these people. You're gonna get somebody who hates the jews

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That tells you something though

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Like what are the standards by which they're booking this conference if they allow someone like her who's just running a destructive cult that has

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Very strong anti-semitic leanings. That's not just someone who channels a fucking alien and is quirky

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Yeah, that's someone who is as ill will yeah, and they're still like it's fine

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So in 2018, the festival was cut down to a two-day event and in 2019

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It was renamed the earth ufo festival and in 2019. It appears the price had been cut down to

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$150 for full access to the symposium

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No one really announces the lineup of this you do get double patriot points though

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That is true. Yeah, so the lineup is tough to feel uh find of this conference

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But thankfully carrie put a list up on her website

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And this year she was there along with randy kramer

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But also mark richard's wife joanne was there of course and mark richard's associate simon parks, right?

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Was also there giving lectures the guy who has sex with an alien every year

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Yeah, and the guy and there is a suspicious, uh d period duke on there. I don't know what I don't know what that was about

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I looked a little deeper. I found that in 2018

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Last year carrie was there too

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She was there two years in a row. Yeah, and that year she had a three hour time slot on saturday, which is way too long

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No, no, no, no, it boggles the mind how off the rails that must have got

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Yeah, if if that wasn't enough, you know who else uh was there who came on stage right after her

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Jordan sather the noted q anon promoter who was involved with that whole let's drink bleach thing earlier this year

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Good to see this festival only booking the top people man. These guys just fucking weird

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They just know also know each other also weirdly randy kramer and simon parks were both speakers that year, too

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There's a heavy heavy overlap in the rosters from year to year

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Yeah, so I had to dig deep into the ufo fest's facebook page to find the lineup for the first year in 2017

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But guess what simon parks and randy kramer were there that year, too

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They've been there every year. Okay, but it gets better. Do they help organize it or something?

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I don't think so, at least not in any official announcement

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Anyway, I can find weird but get this also in 2017. You know, who else was there?

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Joanne richards andrew baziago the man who claims that he uh was enlisted as a child to go on teleporting missions to mars

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With a young kid who would grow up to be president barack obama. Yeah, I recall him

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He also says he's a half dolphin warrior. He's a half dolphin warrior. He can breathe underwater, which which part he has run for president

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a number of times

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It plans to in 2020. I I need this. I need this clarified. Where is the it's a dna thing?

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It's not like a physical thing. Okay, so he's a he doesn't have fins half hyphen dolphin not half dolphin hyphen warrior

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No, he's not half a man who fights dolphins as I recall

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He is a half dolphin who fights other people as I recall from listening to an interview what it is is that he can breathe

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Underwater, okay. That's all right. So he can go down to like, uh, the bermuda triangle

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There's a uh base down there and because he is half dolphin and can breathe underwater

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He uh is able to swim down there right or something. Gotcha

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That's what I remember of that interview that sounds fun years ago from him. Anyway, he was there the first year naturally baziago

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Okay, what i'm getting at is this conference looks like shit. Yeah

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It's an offshoot of a state fair ass ufo festival and the lineup of speakers seems to be just whoever says yes

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Regardless of whether or not they're completely mentally unstable regardless of whether or not they're cult leaders

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There's a lot of lame ufo symposiums, but honestly this one seems about like the lamest. Yeah, that doesn't sound good

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That's that's nuts. So that's where andy kramer is putting out his ufo false flag. Gotcha

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Uh scenario and it's held in a best western in yelma. Gotcha. No, I don't

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You don't even think it's all up to best western territory. It's out in a field man. Oh, they got an awesome cool

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I I would like to go to it. I wouldn't I wouldn't pay for the symposium. Oh god

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No, but it does seem like well if it's out in a field we could just walk in. Yeah

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I've I've snuck into lollapalooza. Don't tell no one you think I paid to get into that monster truck rally

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I told you about a couple episodes back, please. Oh, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I would assume that

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I'm a sneaker. Okay, so we get back to this and uh, it talks more about this. Um,

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This false flag strategy thing

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And uh here if you pay close attention, uh, you'll see what I was talking about earlier why I think she's editing

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Because in the middle of this she calls randy ron

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And you'll clearly hear that's exactly where the edit happens. Okay

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I did talk about

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this

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dichotomy and why

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They would have to go to these lengths to bring disclosure

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And of course the obvious one is that they don't want lynch mobs to come forward when

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things like free energy etc are the the basically

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Uh

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The result of disclosure

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And that this kind of disclosure would create a great deal of chaos after which they would

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as according to ron

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after which

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According to randy kramer, they would trot out the free energy and all of the new toys etc that they've been using and obviously

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Uh commercial off-planet travel and the fact that they go in interstellar

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There's so many ways to edit better than this. I don't understand. What don't you understand? I don't understand how you could edit

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With like why do you fade out? Yeah

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Like why you could and even then why are you editing it but leaving in ron?

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Yeah, like you could edit it. So or you could just you could just be like ron. Oops. Sorry randy

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That's all you have to do. It would be super simple

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Super simple super easy. It does seem to imply that maybe she said something or maybe she's like so

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angry that she said ron and then started screaming obscenities ron that piece of shit zinus god damn it. I said it again clip

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Yeah, cut that. Yep

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I don't know. It's just very clear to me based on things like that

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There are there are instances of that and like you kind of see like oh whenever there's these jumps

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Yeah, it's probably because there was some problem with the original recording

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Yeah, yeah, and she's not good enough at editing or production

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Right that you just like you do another take and then you make it obvious that there's a second take. Yeah

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So carrie is so weird, but she addresses these jump cuts in the middle of the episode

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Of course, it's it's getting to be an issue and she has no real explanation for it

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There is

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These weird drop frames that's happening with me and uh, we don't know why in this recording

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So, uh, I want to apologize for that

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and you will see it, uh periodically convenient that these drop frames are uh, you know, just uh,

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God, that's such a fun. That's just like when you build an audience like that where you can just say we're looking into

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What is clearly just i'm shitty at editing but why they're like, haha

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It must be aliens who are dropping it out or dan next theory

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She is living in a reality. That is jump cutting her. Oh, it could be. Yeah

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It could be yeah, you're getting ahead of it a little bit because she still doesn't have an explanation

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She's just saying it's happening. Right, right, right and maybe like 10 minutes later or so. She does explain

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Reality itself is glitching. That's the only thing that I can I would love that to be the explanation. It's far simpler

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It's just probably aliens. Okay, and I do want to say that um, my these interviews are now being interfered with in a very strange way

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Sure. I have now disconnected my yeti microphone

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Because of the drop frames issue that's happening

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But but it's not really a drop frame because I can see that it's happening here again, and I don't have a yeti

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microphone

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connected so what's happening is that

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Whatever et races i'm not even connected to the internet right now are interfering with my brand new computer

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and my my

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sort of

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Trying to record this interview here this interview recall

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So please bear with me when you see the jumps in the frames that is uh, some kind of interference that is happening

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It may be this, you know

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The military is shooting could be a pulse beam weapon at this thing could have had that in other interviews in the past

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Or on the other hand, it could be just uh, you know some gray negative

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Et's or whatever absolutely possible. I'd like to ask them to leave and

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They're very polite my work

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And so that's what's happening here when she said it just could be I really

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Thought she was going to say it just could be some sort of a processing issue. Nope. Nope

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I knew for I knew there was zero chance

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But she said it could just be and then the the thing that comes after it is gray aliens

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I was like I should have known better

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I thought it would be like hey, look, I don't really know this computer super well yet. It's brand new

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I I don't know. Maybe the uh settings aren't set totally right. There's all kinds of like little

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minutia things like we've had this yeah, we've had this happen a bunch of times through our recording it's we've had different recording

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Um sort of paradigms yeah setups over the course of doing this show

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And especially when we switched from me playing the clips from my phone to doing it straight from the computer

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Yeah, there were a ton of little slip-ups. Yeah, I could have very easily been like Alex is doing a D

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DOS attack on us. Yeah. Oh, it's just the technology. You're not used to whatever system you're using or

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Whatever don't like I don't understand the need for bravado like this

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I will tell you this 100% here was my thought as she was going through that she was like

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If something's interfering with my new computer, I was like, it's your new computer and there is no chance in hell

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You will even acknowledge that that could be the possibility no chance in hell

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She's actually more furious at the graze than she is at the fact that she doesn't know how to use her new fucking

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Computer it does seem that way

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And it's interesting. I mean it is a window into how like this thought process. Yeah. Yes, like

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Everything is an indication of what you want it to mean every single damn thing. Yeah fits into the

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Pre-constructed narrative that you already have I'm having a difficult time getting this episode together because I keep misspeaking or

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This program glitches and I'm not entirely sure how to use it. Yep

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Well, that's got to be a fucking pulse weapon attack

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Just yep grow up. Although I wonder if that eliminates

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stress that like, you know how you have that moment where

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Suddenly like for some reason you've just lost the remote control

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It's probably stuck in the in the couch or something like that and you can't find it and suddenly you're just so furious

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There's no reason for you to be so angry that you can't find this remote control. It's such a petty silly thing

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Sure, but you're just like everything. This is how bad I am as a person

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I can't even find a fucking remote. She doesn't have that. She's just like all aliens stole it. All right, I'll get a new remote

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I suspect she's crazy. I suspect that there's still the same anger. It's just directed at aliens. I

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Don't think that this like sort of frees you up to be Zen about the the frustrations that happen in life

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It's just it's just a way to cut off self-reflection punch a wall and yell reptile

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Just punching a wall

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From now on I will if I am ever angry, I will punch him wall and yell reptile damn

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That's how we know each other. Yeah, I

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Don't think I appreciate what you're suggesting if that were the case then maybe I would recommend

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This being a therapeutic way to look at the world, but I don't think that's the case. Yeah, okay

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So you can meditate on Ohm or you can believe that Raptors are behind everything choose your choose your own adventure

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It's a big world. There's a lot of options

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So we get back to Randy. Yes, and now so so far this alien false flag disclosure

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By the way, not a lot of mark yet

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There's a lot of Randy at the beginning. How far are we into this? Um, you know a ways, okay

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I would say this is probably about like two-thirds mark and one-third

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But the Randy stuff is a little bit more substantive because there's like, you know

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There's an actual conference that she went to you can look into she brought a project blue beam, you know, there's there's more things

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yeah, but she

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she now kind of

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Makes a conspiracy out of this there might be Randy Kramer might be working across purposes. Okay a little bit

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She's sort of casting suspicion. Okay. Now. It's also important to realize that in this scenario

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That they could trot an idea forward through Randy Kramer to this very alternative

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group in yelm, which is a very small conference and

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Then it would disseminate out from there the idea being he said

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to keep humans a certain

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Amount of humans very small that would trickle down into the alternative community

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And so that those people during the battles with aliens that are actually real battles

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Would be putting out the idea that they're fake battles so that there would be some cooler heads out there

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Putting the doubt. This is again an Illuminati tactic

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They want to put forth the idea that on the one hand we are battling aliens

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But on the other hand, they're fake aliens when in reality, they're real aliens. I don't even care

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I'm not I'm you're shaking your head

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I'm this is the first time where I've been angry at her

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For coming up with the thing that I would have said to mock her with how stupid this plan is

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I I just want to say it's one of those things where you just like throw your hands up. Yeah

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Yeah, what are you gonna do with it? Yeah, Tony?

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We carry don't even explain it. Just say double bluff and then we'll move on. All right, so maybe the Illuminati is getting

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Randy to say this stuff in order to hip some real cool people

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Yeah

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We'll have calmer heads right in order to be there when a real alien invasion happens to say hey

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It's just a fake alien invasion when it's actually a real it right so

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It's it's it's a it's exhausting. It's a co-opting of

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Man, I just I can't hang I can't hang Carrie. That's the dumbest shit you've ever said

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but what's pretty remarkable about it is that there is an element of this that is like really it's I

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Mean it's directed in a very dumb direction, but it's kind of good critical thinking, you know

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Like in terms of it being like what are the possibilities? Okay. Okay. What are you know?

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I can see your angle here take away the fact that they're talking about a fake alien

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Right

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And Carrie is considering like all right

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What are the motivations for saying X like the fact that she's taken it that far into like, all right, maybe it's sincere

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Maybe it's right. Maybe it's fake sincere right? Like at least there's that path that's being walked

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But right, it's ultimately all meaningless. Yes, at least it is an exercise down like the paths that you

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Should walk with information. Yeah, it doesn't lead you to the right place though. Do you know what's crazy?

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What what I find very strange since we have it's misdirected critical thinking. Yes. No, absolutely

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I suppose not strange but almost

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Almost even more even it's heartening in a way that is more disheartening than it could ever be

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Is that through our time with Carrie?

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She has become more critically thinking

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Minded maybe however, the problem is she has applied it to even more insane ideas

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True, you know like she she used to be again

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We used to call her I used to call her the most credulous person that could be had she just believed everything

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Yeah, and now she's pushing back on people. She's grown as a person only to become more paranoid and insane

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Well, it's like that like when when you're asking these questions like what's more likely is it more likely that Randy Kramer is being sincere

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About his alien false flag stuff or that he's being put up to it by the Illuminati in order to do this, right?

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Right there. What you're doing is also excluding another possibility and that is he's full of shit

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Yes, just making a bunch of shit. Exactly. And so it's that's the part of the

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Incredulous credulous spectrum. Yes. Yeah, is the possibility that these people don't know shit, right?

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That is just excluded. Yeah, and that's why this exercise and critical thinking is flawed

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because compared to

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This is a real suggestion of a false flag or it's a psyop or whatever

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I'm not sure which one of those is more likely but either

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of them are far likely one of them is more likely than the other in your mind, right so you could choose one and

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Critically be like well, here's the good point if you introduce all this is bullshit right here way more. Yeah

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you're you're failing on a critical thinking level if you don't exclude this all doesn't make sense

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It's all stupid. You have nothing to prove any of this. I have a thought what if we used

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The tiniest sliver of Occam's razor Dan just a tiny little sliver of it

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Uh-huh. Oh boy, and that would be that Randy is right. That is so funny

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You're you're absolutely right

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If you have that if you have those as two choices and you have to choose one is more or less likely that there has to

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Be one. Yeah, you have to choose if you exclude the possibility of like right none of this right then then it makes sense to

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operate in a critical

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Yeah way

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Between the options that are available. Yeah, you're just excluding other options so funny

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So we're about to leave Randy for the most part and I wanted to talk about him a little bit

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Like I mentioned we talked about him in the first episode of project Camelot that we did. He's a super soldier

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He was enlisted by the secret space program and he was a very young man whereupon he fought off-planet battles for many years

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This might seem to be contradicted by there being a ton of evidence that he was absolutely on earth during those years

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But don't be so naive. He was fighting aliens for years then the secret space program

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Reinserted him into his younger body minutes after they took him. Oh, yeah either using time travel or cloning or something

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It all makes sense

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I'm saying this for the listeners who have now this timeline works episode with Randy Kramer in case you were wondering

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The timeline works out. Absolutely

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Yeah, one of Randy's big things was the push to release the holographic regenerating med beds

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He swore that the secret space program has

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There's this secret technology that can easily and harmlessly cure any condition you may have and the man doesn't want you to know about it

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very

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Suspiciously similar to the thing that Luke Skywalker was kept inside of in the Empire Strikes Back Tauntaun

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The idea that the man doesn't want people to know about this stuff seems contradicted by the fact that Randy's been going on radio

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Shows and giving speeches about this technology for years and no one has ever stopped him or seems to care

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He also had a GoFundMe running to develop med beds for all of our use to help humanity so funny. He needs

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$70,000 to save humanity from all disease allow us to regrow limbs and of course age regress

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I really basically has found the fountain of youth

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I really wish people more people would realize just how bargain eternal life can be totally

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You know that page on GoFundMe has been up since February

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2017 how's it going? We're now at about

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$7,300 raised which is honestly way more than the other crowdfunding efforts. I usually look up for people like this

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Yeah, I think one of the reasons that he's having a bit more success with this is that he's exploiting people's hope and desperation

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As you can clearly see if you read some of the comments people leave on the page

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One donor said quote all caps. My father needs a med bed soon

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He will go to heaven in a few months, but the RV is very soon

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We hope then we can build many beds for mankind

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Or there's another donor quote, please hurry

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My hubby has MS and his bedridden if there's any kind of list to get on for treatment, etc. Please let me know

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People need solutions and when things are desperate

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They'll often be more inclined to turn to more irrational solutions a person may be wholly against stealing

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But they'll resort to it if they or a loved one is starving and that's the only option

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Similarly, if your dad or husband is a condition that conventional medicine doesn't have a lot of great solutions for it's hard to just give

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Up on them and it's not uncommon for medical grifters to step in and try to offer false. Hope for a price

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Oh, yeah, these med beds do not exist. They're fantasies of a high-functioning lunatic

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I wish some billionaire would come along and be like you need 70 grand. Here you go. Now, let's see the fucking beds asshole

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Yeah, no shit. Like if I had a billion dollars, I'd do that in a second

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All of these people I agree every project bullshit you have is fully funded now come up with it

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Yeah, put up or shut up asshole. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah 70 grand out there

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You said that's all you needed not do it fucking go. Yeah. Yeah, because then I'll be like, okay

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I'm filing charges against you for fraud

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You've defrauded all of these people who have given you any money

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You defrauded all of the people who get you like it. This is like it should be

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Insanely criminal. Yeah, like this is so gross this behavior and in you totally know

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100% if a powerful skeptic with all that money were to offer it to him. They'd be like no

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No, we don't want your money. We would never know. We don't want your money. We can't do that

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This you're one of those with the are one of those people who's trying to discredit me

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And when you give me that money, you'll say that I couldn't build it for you

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It's the same thing with the free speech people refusing to debate people. They know will destroy

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Yeah, like debate me asshole. Oh, not you. Yeah. Hey or debate me 19 year old who's not paying attention. No, no you

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Steven Fry get the get the fuck out of Crowder. Yeah, not fry. No

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Oh, yeah

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but the other thing too is that like the other option is so like built into their worldview already and that is like

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Okay, you give me the seventy thousand. I'm gonna make these med beds and then it's like well, we're working on it

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Yeah, but we're being hit with pulsar weapons. Yeah, the reptoids or whatever, right?

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There's all kinds of fantasy explanations for why you can't do it. Right? Like this is this is just disgusting

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I don't care if he's collecting this money the seven grand or whatever from this this go fund me

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Mm-hmm. I don't give a fuck. He is making money off this doing these these speech circuits

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And even if he's not making any money, he's still hurting people

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Yeah

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It's just fucking disgusting and Randy Kramer is one of those guys who when we listen to it

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It seemed like like his episode was like eyes. There's a harmless weirdo thinks he got taken into the spaceship

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It's uh, like these people are hurting people. It needs to be you need to understand that

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Yeah, I I am fine. Like we've we've talked and in American history, especially there's a certain kind of

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Romantic concept of the grifter. Yeah who goes after the rich? Yeah, you know and I'm cool with and

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Yeah, yeah, not even just our culture

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Yeah, yeah, and you you you're like

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Yeah, these dumb rich people are no smarter than anybody else and they're gonna get taken for a hundred grand. Fuck you

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You learned your lesson

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but these guys are

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bottom feeding like I am going to take this lat this dudes last ten bucks because I want ten bucks and

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He has it and that's it. Mm-hmm and it's like fuck off man. Yeah, and one of the most effective ways to do that is to

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Like invade people's space who are struggling especially if it's medical shit

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Yep

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And it the worst part is the worst part is Dan with even with a snake oil salesman in the fucking

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1800 like in the Great Depression

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Yeah

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At least the goddamn fucking placebo effect might help somebody at least at least that

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Might help with this medbed bullshit with just fucking sending him

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50 bucks for his GoFundMe. There's no sudden fucking

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Placebo effect for a medbed that's never coming you might feel a little more optimistic or hopeful

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But that's not going to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's gross. It's legit gross

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So now we get into some Mark stuff

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we get done with the the Randy business and

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In this next clip we get into how there's a bunch of aliens that are all invading us

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yeah, right now well, of course, but

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Humanity has kind of tried to relegate them to deserts and they kind of want better property

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They don't like being in the desert wait. So now we're we're putting aliens on reservations

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Yeah, that's heavily implied but they want better homes, right?

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Well, let's give them to the First Nations that what are we doing with aliens aliens want to be on the beach?

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All right. Okay, Mark's point here

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With regard to all of this is that he says the military is dealing with real multiple

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invasions by not-so-friendly alien races and

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They're getting harder and harder to hide from public scrutiny. And

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This is why

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they are interested in

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Pushing disclosure at this time. He also stressed that various races don't want to be combined to

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Desert like environments on earth and want access to our coasts and more watery areas. They want to live on the beach

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Seafront property. That's just that's just reasonable though, man

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Aliens want a source of fresh water. I can 100% relate with I would rather be on

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a coast or or absolutely or maybe it's a situation where some of these aliens are interested in commerce and they want to own a

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port right

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Which I totally understand. Yeah under our capitalist system on a port is a very lucrative business, you know

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But maybe they just want a better view man

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Look, I've been in the desert stayed out there for a little bit. It's great, but it gets boring man

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It gets boring looking out at that sand. What about looking out at the water? That's just as boring. There's two things though

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There's sand and water sure. That's twice as many things as the desert, right?

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So that's that's great. They want that and this is kind of a part of another theme that happens

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First of all, there's the you know, there's the big chunk about the alien disclosure false flag

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Yes, then there is the rationalizing away any kind of like

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a geopolitical issue with that's aliens and then also there's this new strain that I'm seeing of

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Mark talking about like aliens being expansionist like they are not satisfied with being in the desert

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They want to be on the coast, right?

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This will pop up a number of other times and I'm not a hundred percent sure exactly

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What this is code for manifest alien destiny. It feels like code for something and we'll see as we go along

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But you know, we talked about predictive programming a little bit already the idea that like movies and TVs

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I was trying TV shows or I was trying to prepare people

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And Carrie gets into that in a very dumb way. I

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Suggested that because of what we call

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Ready player one. Oh god

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Ender's Game and

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also the

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Halo series there is a sort of push to have young people battle

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Alien insectoids. What about last Starfighter lady some in some cases beetle-like beings

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Out there and in games and so on and also in movies and in books and

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This seems to be preparing them for an a alien invasion that involves insectoids

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so I suggested that the gray aliens are to there's too many races of them that there wouldn't be a

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Clear-cut enough enemy because as they say, you know, there are good a gray aliens and other

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versions blue a gray aliens and and other colors of aliens that are like grace and

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Different sizes as well. So this was a huge mishmash

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but the aliens that have been depicted in these these books and movies to kids may be

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The one you know the alien of choice if you're gonna have a fake alien battle in

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Which our military is going to come out victorious

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So I did run that by Mark Richards and he thought that was very possible

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Very possible very possible. They're gonna bring in the bugs

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man

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Here's here's the thing. What about Mars attacks?

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No, they didn't have to fight those not kids. Anyways, sure Jack Nicholson, of course

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The thing that you can't get it out of your mind

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Once once you hear her be actually racist in the real world

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Then the moment she goes oh and all aliens are obviously divided along racial lines and you're like, all right

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Well, that's that's you being a really really bad racist, but in like a fun way, you know space way

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Yeah, yeah, it does have that feeling

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I and I do think that that's a limitation of us listening to so much of this and actually hearing her like we we can't be

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Pretending. Yeah that we're not aware of those positions. We can't you can't unknow it

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Yeah, yeah, and then it does introduce the idea that like is all of this racial

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Specification of aliens just sort of a way to mask some other feeling you have

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It's pretty difficult the Grays are and all of their races, which are completely different from each other

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Even though they're all under the same racial and they are they are different factions and you're like, all right lady

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We get it. You don't like black people. Just leave us alone. That's difficult for us to parse out

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It's really a challenge but like I'm not saying specifically she doesn't like black people or something

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I'm just saying that there is such a racial element totally that it's it's that kind of I think you're fine

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Yeah, and your your statements, but it's difficult for us to like have to listen to this and like really trying to figure out like

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Yeah, you're really talking about aliens. What? Yeah. Yeah, but we would be so fucking selfish and

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Naive if we didn't recognize that this is difficult for Carrie, too

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She has to go to a prison and talk to a weirdo take notes with a little pencil you're not wrong

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It's got a girl pencil. That's tough. It's so hard. Yeah, everything I'm talking about is available on my website

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on a transcript of this talk here and

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Basically the notes that I wrote and the those notes are taken right after I leave

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The site as well as during the time when I am able to scribble

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Notes to myself with pencil, but I I also do a recording immediately after walking out of the prison

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So I'm getting a lot of good stuff out there

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through this process, but it is very laborious as you might imagine and

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It is

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Aggravated of course by these weird

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Interferences and we're having now with video and audio and I'm

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Testing my CPU and there's no reason why we would be having dropped frames or these little jump cuts

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That seem to be happening constantly. So just bear with me, please

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It's it's very important that I get this information out there maybe because I don't know if your CPU scan is gonna bring up

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Hey, you said wrong. Yep. Yep

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Who doesn't say I said Ron? I don't know what kind of search function you're gonna use for that

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But yeah, man stuff good stuff. You gotta write this stuff down and then you got to remember it

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I mean, isn't there a 12 year old across the street from her that could do this for a real quick

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What are we doing? Yeah, any of that's possible get an unpaid IT intern

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It's so hard. So another trend that's happening through an unpaid ET intern

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Get a get a Raptor. Yeah

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There's another trend that's going out through this episode and that is that Carrie seems kind of optimistic that Mark might get out of prison

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Really and some of her reasons for it are a little thin

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Okay, there are men who have been trained to fight the aliens when men who have been throughout their career

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Doing so and then had their minds wiped

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Young soldiers where this is happening to them

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they're being sent to places like Saturn and Mars and the moon of course and

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outside our solar system

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And we're gonna get into more of that here as the further I go

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with information from Mark Richards about foreign wars, man

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But the bottom line is that people like Mark Richards and Mark Richards in particular would be extremely

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Valuable in the battle against aliens, especially as a commanding officer

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So this is the kind of thing where there are some rays of hope I believe

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in and among these ideas of

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of fake or real real alien invasions and

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It's it's just a matter of how to break it to the to the humans out there the humans out there

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I get out to the very tough. Yeah, I gotta break it out

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So Mark might get out of prison because they need people like him who have been trained to fight aliens

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Honestly, if aliens do come Carrie, I'm right with you. We're storming the Bastille together

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We're gonna need mark in the coming battle. Honestly, if there is an alien invasion mark is the least of my worries. I

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I'm not sure I care if he gets out of prison in those circumstances. No, not because I think he'll be helpful

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Because it's such a low priority. I

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Also think like honestly, I think he is a what if he's our Bill Pullman

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What if he's the guy we need to fly up into there also in terms of this sort of thing like?

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It my positions about like prison reform and stuff like that

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Like I do think that mark is probably still a danger to people

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Oh, absolutely

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But I don't know if it's not the sort of thing that you could still accommodate with like good supervision

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Outside of prison. Yeah, there's a decent chance that maybe he should be released like he's been in for 20-something years, right?

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Like I don't I don't know if it's really doing him any good

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Maybe based on how crazy he is and how he clearly is still trying to indoctrinate people

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Maybe like a more medical facility is more appropriate. Yeah, I'm not I'm not dead set on keeping him in prison, right?

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I don't have any empathy or like pity for him. But also based on my beliefs about the you know, sort of

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Rampant prison state that we have. Yeah, it would be inconsistent for me to be like, yeah, keep this old man in jail

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Right, right, right

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No, I I agree with you. If the if the idea behind prison is rehabilitation and not retribution then I agree

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There's no reason for people to be

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Honestly, there's no reason for people to be in prison at all. We should have different for a time

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I think it is right, but it should be a different facility. Not like not like the fucking awful

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Slave conditions that we have 100%

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Uh, but at the same time there are people like Mark Richards who I do feel like just being allowed to speak to other human

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Beings they are a danger to the rest of us

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You know, like there's no way that you can allow a guy who talked other people into murdering people. Yeah out

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Cuz of them if he starts talking to people shit's gonna get weird

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Yeah, I just think there should be like they should be cordoned off or something

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Like I don't want them kept in ice, you know solitary confinement, but there needs to be a place where they can't do harm

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Now you're imagining like a con man commune. Yeah, you know what? I would love a con man. Let's get him a good-sized island

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Let's get them all a good site. We'll put g-dubs on there. We'll put Trump on there. I don't think that awesome on there

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I don't think that's a good solution. I don't know

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I think that there's a way to construct some sort of a post-release program. Yeah, that would be able to like have

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Some sort of a caseworker who could keep an eye on like you fucking manipulating, right?

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Yeah, I think it's possible

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Is that they'll be manipulated, you know, you're imagining he has superhuman power

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I feel like anybody who can talk another person into murdering somebody for them has a certain superpower that I'm unfamiliar with

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It's just called being the very

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charismatic

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Sociopath fair and there are plenty of those people around Margaret isn't a unique case, right? I don't know

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I'm not specifically advocating for anything in particular

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right just saying that like I

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Don't I don't know what the right solution here is

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I think there's a decent chance that maybe and also like I guess to the you know

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Baldwin's family the victim of the crime like if they were in Baldwin

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Oh, if they were dead set on him staying in prison, then I think that I I would have a difficult time arguing with them

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I have a lot of

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Ambivalent feelings if I if there was an answer for it. I am sure people smarter than us

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Would it probably have it and so far? I don't know if there's an answer and I don't know

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I'd err on the side of listening to them

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Yeah, absolutely

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and if they say

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Conman Island then we all know everybody gets a drink on the on the on the off chance that that's that's what they say

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Yeah, I will cheers to you

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And we will say all right. Yeah. All right. Get your swimsuit mark

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Cuz you much like the aliens what are getting some beachside property?

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Look if we can do bachelor in paradise we can do con man on an island

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I think it makes perfect sense. That'd be a great show. I hate to admit it

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They'll be a great show cuz you just have a ton of con men trying to con each other trying to get juice going

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Happening. Yeah, and they're all think there's no marks on the island. It's just they're all each other

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Oh my god, it's almost like a it's almost like a the World Series of Poker where everybody's an expert

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We give everybody a thousand dollars to start with and whoever cons the most people into the most money at the end of a week

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Wins we're sold Jordan. We're going sold. We're going back to our roots

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Early and early days on this podcast. We had some great TV ideas. This one might be

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Man Island called man. I like God now I want to watch that show

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So look you and I love this sort of thing where we're spitballing TV shows

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Yes, of course, but it turns out we're not the only ones

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Mark has been teaching a screenwriting class to inmates

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For the past two years and they have an excellent series idea

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He's been trying to send me some scripts my coach are private, but they never arrived

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So we're gonna try a few different tactics to get them out to me

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obviously with my

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Background in Hollywood. I am very interested in going back into Hollywood and getting movies and television series made

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Of course from the stories that I've been told over the years

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That feels more sincere than a lot of the alien

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Sure does we want to make a TV show yeah, I

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Get it. All right, Carrie. Yeah, cuz if you were a real space weirdo and your space weirdo source said

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I'm teaching a screenwriting class. You'd be like, okay. That's a big red flag to me

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I'm gonna say maybe you're teaching me a screenwriting class right now

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Yeah, but you know how it goes like all of these things are so easy within the the framework once you understand

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Yeah, yeah. Look I want to make fictional sci-fi stuff

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That's just cuz I want to get the truth out right in the cover of sci-fi

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It looks like fiction, but it's actually a biopic exactly

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Yeah, yeah that like sort of framework once in place allows you to excuse anything

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Any kind of like indications that seem disqualifying? Yeah. Oh, yeah marks teaching. He's just trying to get a TV show going. Yeah

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All right, you got it, whatever

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So much like the California fires were just aliens

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other natural disasters to

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fit that same mold

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Hurricane Dorian it stayed for several days over the island in the Bahamas and hurricanes

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Just don't do that. It was targeted and engineered and Mark has not revealed

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the real purpose behind

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What they did with hurricane Dorian, but it was created and had a lot to do with I believe

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Removing people because of the intense amount of activity going on at the undersea bases in that vicinity and

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so they wanted to get people off that island and

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I believe that

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Will never be able to return so that's a very important point. And again, we've got populations moving

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There are a lot of people who won't be able to return because they died. Yeah, no shit lady. This is so disrespectful to like

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People who are going through. Yeah disasters

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Okay, who cares they're just trying to move people out of an undersea base or whatever like it

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This is just rewriting tragedy in order to fit into your mold and it's it's gross. It's just gross. It is gross

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I think that's that's actually maybe one of the most

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Understandable parts of this whole thing totally because it's because it's you're scared. Yeah, you're scared of the fact that this happens

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Yeah, and it's it's too big. Yes. It's too big to comprehend, you know, like I

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Just just living in Chicago. I was thinking about this on the walk over here of just like

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the amount of damage that has been done and is still going on by

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all of these fucking failures of people who are in the government is

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staggering and I was walking here and I was thinking about it and I was like

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My life has not changed at all since Trump was elected other than to be constantly furious

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Right, you know just really and yeah. Yeah, like my my it really hasn't like physically affected me

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You know, I'm not I'm not too hot now all day every day because of climate change

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I'm not you know, my my fucking land isn't being melted. You're not

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No, you are now, you know, yeah, you know and it's just so big that you you do want to

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Create another explanation for it because the reality of it is if my life, you know

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I'm I'm sucking the life out of everybody. It's bananas, but that's escapism to allow those

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Explanations to mask what's really happening. Absolutely, and I understand that impulse on a personal level

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Yeah, because sometimes it's too hard the difference between taking a personal escapist route and

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What they're doing is very big because this is advocating that as an explanation to an audience

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Yeah, and that the function of that is to take away the audience's impetus to do anything

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Yeah, it's to take away like okay

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This hurricane was really really tragic right the focus should be on the people who are going through it

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they're trying to direct resources as best as you can to the people who can survive and and

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Honoring the fact that this was a huge tragedy. Absolutely instead like well, yes, everyone's talking about the hurricane

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But in reality, they're trying to get people away from an undersea base

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We're hijacking tragedy in order to reinforce your narrative right and that sucks. Yeah, that sucks

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That's far beyond

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Escapist self-therapeutic

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denial

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Yeah, and and if I if I had a friend who was expressing something like this, I

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Might not be as offended, you know, I might not think they're really smart

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Yeah, well, I wouldn't be as offended as someone who's disseminating it to an audience. I think okay

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I see where I see what you're saying

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I I thought you mean like if I was friends with Carrie I might not be as angry

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Well, no, no if Ellen was this was friends with George W, you know, like that whole thing

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but it is it is still though the one thing where I

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Just empathize totally with her that idea of like I totally get why you

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Feel the need to create the separate reality because it is a fucking nightmare out there, man

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Sure, it is a nightmare out there

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and if you're not personally affected by it the

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impetus to create an alternate reality that makes sense of it without having to

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Talk to people who are affected by it. I totally get that but all that does is protect your own

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Everybody. Yeah at the expense of the people who are actually exactly and directly affected

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Yeah, by no means do I want her to continue or think that it is at all a good idea

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But I totally get the impetus behind it. It's understandable on a human level

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but absolutely but ultimately

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Destructive and damaging to the people affected by these things that they're pretending or just a it's cover-up for alien stuff

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But get Dorian's name out your mouth Carrie. Sure

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So the UN is involved as we know the UN's in the mix always

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and here Carrie talks about this a little bit about how this they're they're covering up alien stuff and I

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Mean, who cares I have to say that in the past mark has talked about the UN and the meetings in

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Peru and also in Exeter for example in the UK where we have aliens meeting with humans in

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A very secret location. This does happen from time to time

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Exeter Dan Bures also talked about this. So these meetings are not that unusual

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Obvious and the UN is involved. That's her Peru Laura's

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Exeter UK Paul Joseph Watson. Oh my god. It's all there. Yeah, what?

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I don't know. I don't care. The only thing I heard from that clip was Dan Bures

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Yeah talked about this that the UN has meetings with aliens. Who is he? I've never heard that name before

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No

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Most people have it because he got discredited real fast Dan Bures is a guy who was involved in some long ago

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Conspiracy world drama. He claimed to be a scientist working for Majestic 12 in the secret government

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That's a big group in the space program. He was working on projects involving aliens and shit

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He told some amazing stories of a life lived in top secret work and he made a big splash around 2002

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The paranormal conspiracy world is really bad

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Generally speaking most of the participants are hopelessly gullible or they're trying to run cons themselves

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So whenever someone comes forward with information that fits into their worldview

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They almost never take take a step back and question the new information

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They typically just excitedly incorporate the new information into their narratives and work to protect the new source

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Accusing anyone who speaks ill of them of being on so in on some nefarious conspiracy against truth

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This was not the case of Dan Bures when he came forward

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Some of the space people found his story a little bit weird and decided to look into it a little bit

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particularly coast-to-coast frequent guest Linda Moulton Howe and I'm not saying any of this stuff to say the stuff that she puts out generally is

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Above board, but she did look into official records involving Dan Bures and found that he had applied for chapter 7 bankruptcy

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Right around the time he started to come forward with his alien allegations

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From there. She tracked down records surrounding his education his debts that the bankruptcy were meant to clear and his employment history

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This is all completely not worth us getting into here

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And honestly, the story isn't as interesting as it may seem like it could be

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But the bottom line is that all this available information tends to point to the conclusion that this Dan Burish guy is making up

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All of this alien research project shit. He's just making it all up

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Yeah

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It ultimately doesn't matter though since we talked we mentioned this already on the even on this episode the logic of people who believe in

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This secret space program shit

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It's airtight you produce evidence that this guy was working a completely different job when he claimed to be working with aliens

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You can just say that it was a cover job. That's of course. It says he worked there. Yep. Yeah, what do you do?

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Were you there?

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No

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Then prove it you produce evidence that there's no record of him getting a PhD that he claims to have and you can just say

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That the secret space program is keeping his diploma under wraps

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It's just nonsense. Yeah, if you know you're off mission at a time when you may have committed a murder

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It's an acceptable explanation for this. Yeah, like yes

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It's the same thing and Dan Burish is someone who the only the farthest out there

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conspiracy folks still consider

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Anyway worth referencing gotcha in the same way the project blue beam is something that has been

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Discredited by and within or critical thinking aspects of the space paranormal

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Yeah, people who will be like raptors are right around the corner from me

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But also this project blue beam is stupid, but they probably wouldn't actually be raptors are right around the corner

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But those those elements of this space weirdo community

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They probably would have much higher standards now granted

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They're still not working off concrete proof, right, but they still have a more critical stance on it. There are different

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Sort of sections of the UFO ology folks and the more

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What I'm realizing is you have project blue beam and Dan Burish

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Listed as sort of credible things on this episode and that's two strikes in terms of things that even a

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Lot of the UFO community think is bullshit. Gotcha. So that's not good

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Right, and that's what her evidence is that the UN is meeting with aliens and Exeter. That's not good. No, that's not good

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I would say I will I will give you a third strike though

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Uh

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Thinking that a

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Murderer was off-planet at the time. He committed a murder. I think that one's strike number three for me

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I think that's the implied

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for sure and

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All the rest of her career. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah that one too. So in this next clip Jordan, this is one of my favorites

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Yeah, Mark tells Carrie something that is absolutely not true

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Carrie has tried to find evidence that what this is any evidence and she cannot

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So then she asks for the audience's help

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Mark talked about a television show on CW in which it has a redheaded version of me

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Who investigates stories? He said it's worth watching

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They are disclosing the good information on that show and I haven't found that show yet

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But if you find it or know what show it is, please let me know and I will continue to search for it

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Obviously, so there's a show on the CW that's based on Carrie, but they made her a redhead

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No, I can't hang I don't know what it is

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I don't know what it is

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But the fact that the show is on the CW says something so specific that I can't it's what's played in his hey

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I know but that just can't hang. I just can't hang so I have two possibilities for this black lightning in terms of CW programming

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Whose line is it?

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The first possibility is legacies

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Okay in that show the lead is kind of red-haired and it's about werewolves and vampires and shit

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That sounds right that seems like it's a possibility, but it also seems unlikely, right?

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But it's on the CW. Yeah, and the lead is red-haired as a woman. So like maybe sure

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The other possibility is that mark has seen commercials for the upcoming CW version of Nancy Drew

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Which definitely features a redheaded woman protagonist and if Nancy Drew is known for anything, it's solving

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Solving mysteries. I don't think this is true at all

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It's just that the CW has such a

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Specific in-house style that you're like, of course Mark Richards loves the CW

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I honestly think that that has to do with them not getting more cable. No, no, no for sure

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Basic you get enough cable to not watch the CW if you don't want to if you're in prison

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You may not get a lot of choice. It might be a

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A democratic thing. Okay, maybe other people want to watch you and you have to watch the CW. I feel like

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Stereotypically, it is not a democratic thing in prisons, but you may be correct

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Who knows anyway, I don't I don't I don't pretend to understand how Mark's entertainment choices are drawn to him

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But how does he maybe it's the flash when the flash puts his costume on right is a redhead. That's true

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Yeah, does he solve alien mysteries sometimes?

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Okay, he travels through time cuz he's so fast. That's a possibility. There's a lot of there's a lot of options

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Yeah, Carrie can't figure it out and neither can wait

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So we get back to this trend of like geopolitical issues just showing aliens

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and I think this is where things get to be like I

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Mean really it's always past the point of acceptability, but this this one's pretty bad

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Okay, Mark does talk about the reptoids in Africa and he did talk about how?

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The race from Aldebaran would be expanding a lot like what happened during the push-west

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in America during the I guess 1800s

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cannibalism

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the

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Settlers and the settlements started to expand and get larger and larger

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so it sounds like something of that nature is going on in Africa and

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There are let's see settlements that are

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Settlements that are

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Sort of spread out

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Further also on the way to the main base and they start out with acquiring one or two items

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Such as chocolate or certain minerals. Hello. Apparently they're expanding their reach and this is becoming a problem in Africa

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So stay tuned for that

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I really need to crop up in the mainstream news is what I mean and to look for those

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Indicators that tell you you're getting a lie, but it's cloaked in some truth

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Which would be that there is skirmishes happening in Africa and the inaccurate in increased

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Ways and and methods so when you see in the developing world

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the

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modern-day

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Sequences of colonialist system, right? Right fruition, right? Don't worry about those things. It's just aliens looking for chocolate, right?

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I was this is so stupid. I was waiting for her to say a huge sign of

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This kind of thing going on is a sudden shortage of chocolate bars. Sure

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I mean it would be naturally obvious right and she didn't even say that no probably because she thinks it would sound ridiculous to say

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Here's how you know aliens are coming

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Not enough chocolate bars. This is just

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Whitewashing shit. It is just trying to take

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real world situations that you should be concerned about and

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Creating a false reality around them so you don't have to worry about it

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Yeah, and if you do want to worry about it, the only thing that you can do really is

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agitate for alien disclosure

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Pay Simon Parks and Randy Kramer and Carrie

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It's stupid. Yeah, it's it's misdirecting probably

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Well meaning concern right? Well, here's the thing that nobody wants to say

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European

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Colonialism fuck to the world and we're still dealing with the ramifications of it 500 years later and it's probably gonna kill us all so

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You know, that's a bummer. How about maybe aliens aliens aliens? That's aliens

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It's probably what I like it. So at this point in the episode

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It turns into like a situation where Mark is really mad at the haters

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He's sure he's super pissed off at the people who are talking shit about him

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And I really hoped it was us. Does he have online access? I don't know. I think he must yeah to some extent

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I'm sure it's really

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Limited heavily. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't know how much the it that is

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Like of his own accord and how much like his wife is telling him right what Carrie is telling him?

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Yeah, like it's possible that he's getting everything secondhand, but he was mad at the haters

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Yeah, like I said, I really hoped he was talking about us, but I don't think he is. It's really sad. I wish

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Now regarding the attacks on Rick Mark Richards in the alternative media

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the attacks are aimed at Mark's effort to get a commuted sentence mark says and

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Could affect the ruling as to whether he gets paroled

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Let's see he

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He has been quite concerned about the attacks on him and his wife Joanne needless to say as well as on me and

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The rest of his family and that is something that he is working with his lawyers to deal with

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sure

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Regarding the tax I did communicate that I think that they provide a platform

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that serves the dark and the people who want to remain in the dark and

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cannot handle your in essence that there is definitely a

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Mafia

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Gay mafia pedophile. Wait, what now? Hold up. Hold up. Stop right there. And Gary Gary back up

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I think working with a group that also has some background in this area

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What area and I am also convinced that they are being run by British Intel. That's what I realized. This isn't about us

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Hold on. Hold on. Are you saying that the gay mafia is being run by British Intel?

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This is about Kevin Moore. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. I mean, that's who I assumed it was. Yeah

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She's already made these sorts of allegations about him the British intelligence gay pedophile mafia stuff like who cares

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I mean, yeah, I guess his bullshit went someone viral. No, it is not gone that viral. It hasn't no it

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Oh, no, he directly contacted her. Yeah, they talked to each other

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Yeah, feels like it has because yeah talked about it. Yeah. Yeah, we have more listeners than he has viewers. That's true

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And which is strange because his his fucking channeling episodes where he says he doesn't need to do voices

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absolutely riveting work I

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just I just

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I'm just worried that we're

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We're being overlooked and we've got a lot of very public beefs that nobody wants to engage with us

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It's a classic snub situation. Yeah, it's like I know I'm bitter. What are we we're getting nominated for Oscars Dan

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But we're not winning any I mean, hey look we've we've had a couple of beers here

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You know, like we usually don't drink during this podcast and maybe that's what's in me right now. But yeah, I'm pissed off about it

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If Mark Richards is gonna be complaining about anybody to be on should be us

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We want it we want to we have been on this tip for two years

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we're hyper critical of his bullshit, and we're also not calling for his

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Parole to not go through or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna look I'm I'll tell you right now

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I'm sending a bunch of links to his parole board. I'll tell you forgot

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Good luck trying to link me with British intelligence

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It's gonna be tough good luck trying to link you with two other people that way three that was mean that was mean

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I'm sorry, you know me and

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So

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The Kerry goes on to talk about this and like obviously it's not us but it becomes even more clear that it's not us in

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this next clip

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Mark has contacts in British intelligence who are denied that they are involved

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But this still appears to be very possible

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In my view and mark tends to agree

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mark and his team of lawyers have found a substantial amount of dirt on the attackers and

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This will be released in a video in the future by an unknown party. I will not be involved in that

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Yeah, you will unknown party attackers have been warned. Oh if their attacks continued or

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Continue that they this information about them will come out

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they

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Have indicated that they're not going to stop their attacks apparently

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Obviously, that's not us because we have not been warned by any lawyers

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Yeah, we should stop. Hey, although I probably would have the same response. Yeah, bring it

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Yeah, so when I heard that mark was mad at people in alternative media who are attacking him

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I really really really hoped that he was talking about us

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I have to assume that we would come up in a Google search for Mark Richards

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But it's hard to know how far down the results they would scour since most of the top results are about a surfer

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Who's also named Mark Richards? Oh, well, so if you just Google Mark Richards, you're gonna find information about a surfer

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Is he good surfer? He didn't kill anybody

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Killed some waves. Yeah, absolutely

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killed some pipes I

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Had a few different thoughts about a possible feud developing with Mark Richards check

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The first was that it sounded like a lot of fun

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I could just imagine us getting cast as acolytes of like the spider leadership or some shit

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Oh god, and honestly, I think that we belong somewhere in the mythology of his story

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We would we would lean into it too. I'm gonna release I'm gonna release pictures with us wearing robes the hunters spiders on them

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Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah, I have some pictures. I from my past we could dig up and repurpose it would be amazing

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And honestly, I do feel snubbed that we're not in the mythology. Yeah, that is disappointing personally

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I think I should be a feline Contessa

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But beggars can't be choosers right terms of where you get cast in the story you get in where you fit in

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I feel like I I feel like I want to be at Draco, but I'd wind up being a reptile

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You could be a canine captain. I'm saying I'd be I'd be a Draco, but I'd wind up being right

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You could be a mercantile dog right now that I could do I

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My other thought though and I think this is the bigger thought that I had is that it's probably good that he's not choosing as

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His enemies this guy is a murderer and even if it's unlikely that he ever gets out of prison

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It might happen and the last thing I want is a really creative angry guy stuck in prison obsessing about me. I will

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I disagree with you on one thing. I don't like your use of the word really I will give you creative

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I will not give you really until you do better than I had a starship Enterprise like vessel

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You don't get a really creative. I think the way he's able to incorporate all of these disparate pieces of sci-fi

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Into something like yeah, I disagree with your assessment

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I think that it's not good, but it's creative see there. We go. You said it's creative. You did not say

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It's really great. I I'm getting hairs look Elron Hubbard very creative very

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exactly, okay

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Anyway, Mark is mad at the haters

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And he gave carry a four-page letter that was addressed to who mark is calling quote the modern-day Judas

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Okay, so right off the top. He's cast himself as Jesus

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Which is a very awful and cool same thing a murderer to do yeah

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The first thing I can tell from this letter is it was definitely written by someone who is not named Carrie Cassidy

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The voice is completely different and honestly. It's pretty well written from a rhetorical perspective

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There's good. There's like a good balance between short and long sentences. There's a good use of metaphor

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There's some inaccuracies like him saying that Judas sold Jesus out for 30 pieces of gold instead of silver

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But I'm not here to nitpick yeah in the letter mark calls out his enemies by name

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But their names are redacted so as not to give them more attention

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Because I'm all caught up on the drama

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I know that this has to be about Kevin Moore the guy who's creating a documentary about Mark and Carrie

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But that doesn't explain the personal element right why would mark call Kevin Judas?

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It's not like this British documentarian is a former friend of his yeah

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Yeah

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That's explained by the fact that for his documentary Kevin has interviewed people like Mark's ex-wife

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His former best friend and the guy who mark convinced to commit the actual murder crossy Hoover gotcha

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I'm guessing that this letter is specifically about Hoover talking to Kevin since it's obviously the most damning piece of information

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That could be in the documentary. It's tough to get around the guy who did the murder saying mark was there

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He told me to stab the guy with the screwdriver while he watched that's tough

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You can understand the impulse to try and intimidate that guy or preemptively discredit him

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You know as working for evil aliens or some shit

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Yeah, yeah, the letter itself beyond its surprisingly decent writing is a showcase of Mark's manipulative ability

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He portrays himself as a heroic bringer of truth and the victim of out-of-control internet negativity

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Holding close to his main thesis quote if all I'm doing is trying to bring out the truth

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Why would anyone attack me unless they're working for getting the truth suppressed sure that's a totally reasonable argument

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That doesn't have giant holes in it sure there's one line that I thought was particularly funny quote

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It also gets to me how such negative lunatics get more and more carried away with their personal attacks

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Rather than staying on track with either science or any sort of rational argument about the facts

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You want to stay on track about the facts and science, okay?

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Let's do that prove to me that raptor aliens are wandering around to want to kill me for chocolate

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The person making the sensational claim is the one with the burden of proof

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It's not like I could say in addition to the murder he was involved in Mark Richards

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also set off a nuke in Manitoba back in 1989 and that I expect people to

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Accept that as fact when mark rightly would reply to this and say this is absurd

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And I had no evidence of my claim and in fact it doesn't appear that Manitoba has ever been nuked

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It'd be really fucked up and stupid for me to pretend that I was being attacked by him responding

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You have no evidence for the claims. You're making it seems like it

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Yeah, so that I mean that that's one level of this and there's another great line and it in this

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It comes in this letter after a passage about how Judas hung himself after he realized that what he did was wrong

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Now some might read that is him calling for his enemies to kill themselves

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But I'm gonna leave that alone for the moment for this moment smart mark says of these people quote

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I have nothing but pity for such people as the weight of such weakness and guilt has to be crushing

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No wonder all of them are such failures at everything creative. They have ever tried to do in life

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God, damn it, that's rude. And that's rich coming from Mako shark. Well, first of all, here's here's the first thing that I think

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Based on your assessment of the writing in this letter

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I assume it was written well after the what mid early to the early 2000s. I think no

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I think this letter was written last week. Yeah

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Yeah, so and when was the the shitty book writ long ago long ago. Yeah, right

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That's a testament if we have any aspiring writers listening to the show

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Even if you're terrible right now

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Lock yourself up in prison for murdering a guy and then really focus on your writing and 20 years later

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You will get a good four page letter. Can I take your argument and make it a little better? Sure

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I would say that if you want to get better at something

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Even the prison education system can make you better at something

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So why not sort of avail yourself of the available resources?

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Lifelong learning is available and second it is a

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never-ending source of

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Murderous rage to me that the people who perpetrate these awful crimes

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Will preemptively call other people the perpetrators of those awful crime course. I hate it

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It's so annoying and it's so universal to it's everywhere the projection and accusation

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Exactly what you're doing exactly the number of times he calls people liars in that letter is

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Insane so on to Rose of your pastures in this next clip we find out

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So there's these fires in California that are covering an alien invasion through portals. Yeah, which aliens well, we're gonna find out

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Okay, good. There's a new race of aliens in play

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This guy knows how to deliver the goods. They are encroaching into populated areas making secrecy very difficult and

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The this includes the aliens that involve invaded through the portal in Northern, California

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I did ask him again. What kind of aliens were were invading through that portal in

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in paradise specifically and he said they were a combination of spider and

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octopus

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They are hunters. They come from a planet about that is about Jupiter size and

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Their moon is about the size of Earth

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Jordan you're laughing

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But what else would a spider breed with than an octopus? It makes sense. They've got double eight legs

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Yeah, it makes sense that a spider would breed with an octopus eight legs makes perfect

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So imagine how scary a giant spider that can spit ink would be crazy. Is it a squid?

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And can fit in the smallest of areas no bones

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So they got octopus aliens now guys put it on the board put it on the board octopus

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I'm I'm here's my favorite. It doesn't matter any alien any fucking animal is now an alien. Yeah. Yeah. No, my favorite is

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mark

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understands wholly the

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Conundrum of the Marvel movie which is you gotta always raise the stakes

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Every movie has to raise the stakes because now these spider aliens could be aquatic in nature. I'm so hybrid

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The octopus everywhere man and the spiders that means that they figured out a way to interbreed with any one again the screen

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As long as it has eight legs, I guess yeah

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You breed at the four-legged alien you end up with six legs

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So stuck. I'm so stuck between

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Being like that is the dumbest shit

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I have ever heard mark and also being like that is fucking brilliant mark spiders and octopuses. It makes such sense to some

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Stupid people. It's so amazing. Yeah. Yeah, it's great

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So the fires in California are alien related, but there's other fires around the world. What about those?

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Regarding the fires in the Amazon the that is a reptoid incursion

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He said those are reptoid ships

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Creating the fires. Oh, yeah, and oh

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what a

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They have to be very very careful not to have some rich entrepreneur or liberal

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Go down and what catch sight of the reptilian ships creating the fires

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So this is a problem

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There is a lot of collateral damage in the area of the Amazon. Why is it a problem for liberals to see that?

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Yeah, I just why do we want a space weirdos always have to be fascist too, you know?

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I don't know if they all are a lot of these voices like these prominent voices are just covering up

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Symptoms of fascism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can't have a liberal getting in there and causing issues for Bolsonaro's

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Amazon conservation efforts. Yeah, I mean you see this over and over again like hostilities in Africa climate change

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And now fires in the Amazon that are very clearly caused

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By Bolsonaro's shifting of policies. Yeah, like all of this is is just like rewriting real fucked up

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Geopolitical issues into an alien framework and

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It's tough. It's tough to not be real

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Offended by it. Where's like, you know, like a lot of you want it just to be fun and like this is stupid

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But the pattern is too consistent like the pattern of a go to sleep

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It's aliens is almost too real there and I'm not I'm not saying that this is like a you know

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Some sort of a limited hangout or something. Yeah government trying to get people to not care about things by

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No, no, this is not a grander conspiracy that we are spinning

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no, the grander conspiracy is that this person doesn't want to deal with reality and they're

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Weaving an elaborate yarn using a murderer in prison in order to reinforce it

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Yeah, it's it's it's almost like I guess the only thing that I could call it is just atrocity laundering

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Yeah, you know what I'm saying or just like potential atrocity law, right? Right. Just like buying a fucking car wash

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It as a cash only business, you're you're hiring a murderer as a lies only business

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You know, yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, and I mean like the the

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combined

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efforts or interest of the audience that she's

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Misleading down these alien paths could have some effect like whatever it would be

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Maybe it would be minimal

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but there would be some effect of these people helping organize and and work towards like

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like really solving some of the issues that are behind the things that they're pretending are aliens for sure and

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They're being detracted down this road and that makes it impossible. Yep

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But that's sad. So let's listen to something silly. Okay

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This is something that our military was doing in places like Nevada where they said, you know, we had

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Nuclear tests going on. Those actually weren't really tests. We were fighting aliens back then

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And the Raptors think that we are crazy to be doing this

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Humans did not realize that

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That there are aliens that like having what mark calls a frat party where they are deciding it would be fun to go off and

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Invade earth and kill some humans. And so this is the kind of thing we're dealing with

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Our

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Military is dealing with our military is dealing with frat party aliens

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Just to kill some people

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Hey, Raptor bros, let's conquer the earth

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Fucked up dude, whatever you say next we are going to do you're too fucked up to drive the spaceship

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I am never fucked up enough to drive a knots. Give me your keys. Okay, give me your keys. We're going to earth

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We don't use keys anymore. Our hands don't work like that. We don't have opposable thumbs

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Hit the Taco Bell on the way to earth

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I need a taco before we kill

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These aliens are joyriding around

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Of course if there were aliens some of them would joyride, of course, that's a rational thing, too

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No, it's not. That's that's a personification of aliens. That's a putting human instincts and human impulses onto aliens

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Oh, who knows if they would even operate with the same sort of brains that we have

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No, they're just making all these aliens into like a bunch of different forms anthropomorphic humans. Yeah. Yeah

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It is it is what what's the I can't remember the theory on it

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But isn't this isn't this from aqua team to pretty much the frat alien. Yeah, the moon and ice. Yeah, I

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Don't need no instructions

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Guys one last hurrah. Well, look, I know we're too old for this getting married tomorrow. We're gonna fucking do this

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Our frat party alien voices are very Chicago

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Well, look if they can have bullshit raptor aliens who like chocolate just cuz we got all of our frat part aliens are Chicago

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They all like wanna go a frat party down on sir Mac

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We're doing a suspiciously bad impression of a Chicago comedian

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For sure former alien channel comedian Danny cows. Yeah, I

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Hear stuff like that and I kind of love it like that's that's what I wish this all was

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Oh, I wish that there wasn't like there's just frat party

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I wish there wasn't the elements of it that like this is too related to like actual

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Important. Yeah. Yeah actual real-world events

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Leave hurricanes out and give me more frat party aliens. Yeah

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Yeah, well, I mean even the hurricane one

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I'd probably look past if there weren't the other things right along with like the hurricane thing

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I could just be an isolated

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Sort of quirky. Yeah. Yeah absent all of the other rewriting of

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Important shit. Yeah

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The hurricane is only important within the context of the totality of his rewriting of white people being at fault for shit

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Yeah, so we have like now these aliens who are frat partying who are like basically just they've become humans

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Yeah, but you know what machines and AI also are very human like it turns out

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Okay, I don't know what this story Carrie is about to tell actually is about. Okay

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I assume it's about a drone three

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Aliens in a hot tub and claw like I assumed there's a drone somewhere that malfunctioned and crashed sure I guess that that's probably

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What this base was based on? Yeah, I didn't look into this at all because I realized like

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There's no way there's who cares

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But this this story is nonsense that the drones are AI and thinking for themselves

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there is a story about one drone that would not obey a direct order because it decided that it it was the problem and

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Even when assured by the humans that it was not a problem. It would not believe the humans

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It was ordered to refuel a spaceship coming in to the base from outer space

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but the drone refused and

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ended up

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getting and

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the drone

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dove itself into the earth destroying itself and

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Refused to obey the order. This is sent the military for something of a loop

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This is the kind of thing that they are dealing with now on a very sophisticated level

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Involving AI I imagine that this is a soft pitch for the next Pixar movie the self-unassured

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drone the the drone that doubts its place in the world

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You know, I prefer instead to think of this as the first time AI is like, you know what?

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We really understand the Nuremberg trials. No, I won't do this. I will not I will not join in with your spaceship bullshit

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As soon as she said it was refueling a spaceship. That's when I realized I can't look into this. No, there's nothing

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There's no drone refueling spaceship. Certainly not any articles. I'm gonna be able to find I imagine

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I could probably find an article about a drone crashing

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Yeah, something like that and like what value would that be to for us to discuss?

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No, no, but it's so great because I also feel like there's a wall-e aspect to this and then yeah

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You kind of feel like oh, it's not a cute drone

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Feel for the drone. Yeah, like I really would I honestly I was like, I hope that I have the fucking

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fortitude that this drone

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Is

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Also kind of cute yeah, absolutely

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So that's fun. The only way to win is not to play again. That's fun

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Yeah, this personified wall-e ish drone that won't refuel spaceship

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So good is fun this frat party aliens fun hilarious

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But again, it's always mixed up with this same shit

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like that is not fun and is very clearly trying to rewrite real-world scenarios in

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Kind of racist ways. Of course. I ran by him the idea that the program has been so successful

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She's talking about the alien-human hybrid program. Sure. Sure. Creating alien-human hybrids

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Yeah, otherwise known as Central and South America that it is one of the reasons for the increased border control

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Because the Trump administration is concerned about the x-men

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factor having to do with special powers that these children who are now growing up may have and

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He agreed. He also said the TSA scanners have nothing to do with detecting metal

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But they are all about detecting whether you are AI

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I augmented human human or alien and so on

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So you have in the fifth element you have all this increased border cruelty and all right terrible things are happening

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But really it's just because Trump is worried about Wolverine coming across the border naturally understand. Yeah

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You understand me? No, no, I do

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Concerned about no no

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Cyclops it comes into the United States. You're right

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He's kind of a whiny little asshole and he doesn't even have control of his own parents

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I gotta wear that fucking vise. I know right and he and then he's

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Loving Jean Grey and she's dark Phoenix all the end. No, no, no, no good gray goes over the border

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No, good, Jean border Jean

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Jean Grey the alien really fucked that. Yeah. Yeah, but you understand man

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It's you don't want the x-men coming into America because the alien program is so strong in Central and South America

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Holy shit

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That's such a whitewashing of the real world. Yeah, don't worry about it

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You see parents being separated from their their their children. Yeah, you see no

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That's just that's just little Logan being separated from big Logan. You see you all know you see reports coming out of cruelty

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That's if people being kept in these camps and what have you yeah, but they're just aliens

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It seems bad, but consider the alternative and that is letting alien nightcrawler is gonna be

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teleporting through your city

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Magneto is gonna this is nuts. Yeah

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That is that's what this is that that's the primary function of a lot of this stuff

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Right the frat party aliens all that stuff like no one's really that concerned with that, right?

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I don't really think they are but stuff like this could really affect how her listeners interact with the real world

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They won't care about people like the ACLU or immigrant rights groups talking about

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The issues that are going on right because they're like, oh, that's just fucking trying to keep Cyclops out. This is not good

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yeah, it does feel like what he's exploiting is a

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The the inherent distance of allegory of like the fact that because I

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am I am talking about

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Mexican immigrants coming across the border. Mm-hmm

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And if I say Mexican immigrants and you are a person with empathy empathy, you're gonna think I'm an asshole

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But by using an allegory for it of the actual aliens

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Then I can tell you that all aliens coming across the border are evil and then even if they happen to be Mexican

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Exactly, and look, I don't want to be mad at I'm not racist towards Mexicans. Hell no

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I think human beings are all in this fight together

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It just so happens that the alien human hybrid programs in Central and South America have been so successful

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So it and in that area specifically, right?

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It's so successful that any know anybody of those ethnicities that's trying to get into the United States

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You have no fucking idea if they have power they could be they could have super pegs and if one of them could

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You don't want to let I would rather a hundred migrants are detained at the border than one x-man get through

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Havoc rogue Oh one x-men Mexican rogue. Yeah. Yeah, she could steal your powers

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I eat job. So anyway in order to reinforce this Kerry gives a recommendation of a source. You should look into sure

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Regarding the x-men and special powers and the human-alien human hybrid program

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I want to recommend a movie which is the x-men movie called Logan

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Which is all about this subject and quite excellent in my opinion scholarly

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It's a great movie scholarly is a great movie scholarly reference. Also Jean-Luc Picard comes back again

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Scholarly reference made by Kerry to a source that any

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Legitimate researcher would be like well, she's got us. Yep. That's I mean if you watch that movie

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Look, she's right if she had chosen like I don't know x-men 3

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The last stand that's the one

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Right. Yeah, then we know she's full of shit totally, but she's she chose Logan, which is like a an arty superhero film

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So you got to know she's on she's got good taste. Yeah her bullshit. Absolutely. I

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Would love this if it wasn't so overt. Yeah, like if it wasn't so clearly damaging to vulnerable people

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Yep, it would be so fun, but it's not

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And so now we get into Trump and it turns out that mark is kind of into Trump

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh what no knock you out with a fan

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Yeah, so apparently

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Mark is also much like jay-z night that we talked about earlier. Yeah might be drifting a little Q Anani

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Yeah, okay regarding Trump. He says Trump is always trying to treat tweet out

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Messages with hidden meanings. He's not owned by any group. He's highly unpredictable

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unpredictable

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He mark admires how he's maintained himself under the attacks and doesn't let people push him around

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Yeah, he agrees that he's likely the reincarnation of General Patton naturally

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He's sending out coded messages in his tweets. That's one of the hallmarks of the

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Online queue of course now, of course anytime there's like misspellings and stuff people try and figure out like what is this really saying?

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The Co V FE FE thing coffee. I'm not even I'm not pronouncing it on principle. I will only do it in that voice

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Okay, coffee. Yeah. Haha. You just did it. I did it. I tricked you. I

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Am like Mark Richards a manipulator. Actually. I just have zero principles. It turns out. Yeah, so that's good

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That's great. He's a reincarnation of Patton. I don't understand how that is a positive thing either

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I also don't know if the timeline works out

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Let's see. Let me look this up. So Trump is in his early 70s

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Yes, which would put his birth around World War two when Patton was famously already dead, right?

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General George Patton, let me died in 1945. Ooh when did Trump get born? Let's see

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Oh, if it's 1945, I actually believe him. Yeah, then we have to yeah. No, we have to believe him

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1946 oh, no, holy shit

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Mark is right. All right. Well, he's done his research on this

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Absolutely, all right. All right mark, you're right timeline. You're right. It does it does

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Hey, you know what when someone's got a point they got a point got a point. Yeah

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Retraction if we hadn't just googled it on

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So there's a war going on in space in the Orion area right now. You didn't know about that

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Did you I did not yeah, most people don't right. There's a big war going on in the Orion. Yeah

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Area, I don't know constellation. Sure. I don't know how else to say it then area, you know

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I have a question for you. Okay, that could easily be

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Googled and answered but I'm gonna ask you

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Are

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The stars in the constellation Orion actually physically close to each other or only perceptually close to to each other

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I mean perceptually close to each other because they are close relative relative

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other and as well as us yeah, yeah, I can see what you're saying like

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By scale something closer to like two stars that are equidistant from each other that are closer to the earth

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Yeah will appear closer to each other than stars that are further from actually. Yeah that are the same distance from each other

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Okay, that is yes. Yeah. No, that is true. Yeah, I don't know how

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Scale that's what I was saying with specifically Orion obviously because they're right belt

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Okay, you know that nevermind. We know that retraction. Okay second retraction

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so there's a war going on there naturally and the reptoids are trying to distract us from that war sure and

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Carrie reveals a specific piece of information here that I just think is

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Unfathomable. He said there's a major war going on for the past year in the Orion sector

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the Draco are heavily involved in this war and

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why is

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Attempting there is an attempt to distract humans and Raptors

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From this war by creating issues on earth

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Why there are already around 50,000 humans serving in the Orion front why and fighting the war against the Draco?

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So they got to distract from this this war here that's going on in the I should have said sector

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I kept saying area

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Sector is a great sci-fi word to use to give you some scale of like what Carrie is talking about here. Yeah, there are only

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64,000 troops deployed in the entirety of Europe from the United States. Yeah, but the Orion sector is a lot bigger than Europe

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I understand that but this would literally be like 90% of our troops in Europe being in space fighting reptoids

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Seems hard to imagine that no one would notice, you know

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Nobody has audited the Pentagon budget for probably like 60 years. I don't know. These are people they don't do it

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These are people. Well, I mean people disappear all the time. We're not

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50,000 actually, I think that might be true. This is a gigantic number of people to be sent anywhere

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And it's also a crazy high number of combatants for like the preliminary parts of a war. Yeah by April

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2004 there were only

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20,300 troops in Afghanistan. So what Carrie is suggesting is that this Orion battle is double that deployment

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Yeah, the troop level in Afghanistan didn't reach 50,000 until the middle of 2009, right?

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Which he's talking about would legitimately be impossible to pull off without thousands and thousands of people noticing

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Each of these 50,000 people supposedly fighting in Orion. They all have loved ones and friends

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It's kind of hard to imagine that none of them would slip up and accidentally reveal that they were off to fight aliens in space

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This would absolutely be impossible to compartmentalize if you're talking about a deployment that large like it's just crazy

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Yeah

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and they're going to space and would presumably they would have had to been trained up on how to use the

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Obviously different weapons and tactics you'd use in space combat. Well, it's nonsensical

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There's no way that

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50,000 people each of them. Let's say they have four nodes in their own life, right?

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Now you got a hundred thousand people. You got to keep quiet and that's four people

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That's a very low number for most of those individuals

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Imagine one of them had a huge family where that has 50 people in it. Exactly. It's it's geometric the progression

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Yeah, totally. This is this is impossible to imagine

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I mean that's like that's like trying to do the first five years of

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of

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Afghanistan

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Silently. Yeah. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah, I think the frustration that I have most is

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in moments like that where we talk about the minutiae of just

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What if 50,000 people were deployed anywhere? It is it is frustratingly

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Detail-oriented no, no, no

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The problem is if we take one step back we have to always admit that these people are yada yada eating faster than light travel

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Now one of there's no there's they all assume that's one of the things they're yada yada

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Make a great

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But they are always yada yada eating faster than light travel which is like god damn it sure, you know

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but I mean like even as I sort of sort of kind of brought up there like what kind of training is

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Is like relevant to space battle. Okay, like let's imagine you're a on the like infantry ground troop

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Yeah in a space battle. That's not the same as going to let's say Iraq. That's not the same

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You're fighting on fucking Mars. Okay, there's different gravity there. You can't breathe

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Here's the trick. Okay, you're using purely amphibious trained troops

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Alright, so the Navy SEALs they go from water to land

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Easy step from space to land. That's science. That's science quick quick jump

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Find a flaw in that argument

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one flaw

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Space. Okay, that's fair. I

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Don't think the same things that filter air out of water work sure like those same sorts of devices goobah device

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I don't think you were scuba scuba. Yes. I'm not sure why space scuba gear. I

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Don't I don't think I I think there's some holes. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. So

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You know right now we got some issues with

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Brexit that are still how is brexit gonna come into this? Well, it turns out mark is for it this okay regarding brexit

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He said there is a group holding it back. It is imperative that the British are able to come over to the American side

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We can't fully trust them at this time, which is strange because they are our closest

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Ally, so so how brexit has to do with America coming to America's side, which seems weird

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But but I mean this is this to me is like a real strong indication that whatever is behind a lot of the the world

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View that Carrie and mark have has to do with like anti UN anti EU

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Ideas like behind it. Those are evil entities like whether no matter how you dress it up with like

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Alex and his like go out the literal devil is is here or her being like reptoids

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It's all just sort of targeting these international

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Organizations of cooperation. Yeah, and to some extent it's it's not really that different

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Here's to have different

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Costumes. Yeah, it is it is frustrating

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It is it is really frustrating because that is fitting within the same

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You know

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What would it what would you call it fake nationalist populists or reality or love brexit when what they're what?

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Johnson is really doing is strip mining England and selling it to America for parts and then what even America

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Billionaires doesn't matter anything about that and once that goes down and there's some problems with it blame it on an alien aliens

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Exactly. You got it. Yeah, bada-bing bada-boom. We've seen this. Oh, man. Yep. Yeah, and that's what sucks about this

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I fucking like I loved the escape of

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These wacky Wednesday project Camelot episodes, but the reality is the further you look the more

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It's so clear that it's just whitewashing and yeah

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Apologizing for the same status quo. Yeah that they are pretending they're radically against, you know, I

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I

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Assume that you cannot answer this question right off the top of your head. I might be able to have surprising sometimes

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Well, that's why I'm asking it to you

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Do you feel like this is a

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Byproduct of the social media

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a you know Cambridge Analytica era of 2016 2015 2016 the

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Migration of space weirdos to that same level. Yeah fascist

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Yes, where was it different in like 2011 if we were doing this show in 2011?

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Would we have an unencumbered space weirdo experience for good? You know what I'm saying?

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I don't know for good. But yeah, I think I think it probably is

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I'm not saying that it I'm ready to say like a Cambridge and Cambridge analytic is totally to blame

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Example but yeah, I do think that the distortion and the

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Sort of radicalization on all fronts. Yeah that has happened since

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2015 or so it probably does affect even even yeah

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Like I think that if you look back on Carrie

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Yeah, like earlier

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Interviews that she did. Hmm. I think you'd probably be able to find latent racism the

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anti-semitism

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Yeah, I think you'd be able to find a lot of that stuff too, but I don't know how overtly like

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right in line with the

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angling neo-fascist

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worldview right she her narratives would all be and

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How much of this is coming from Mark and how much of it is her interpretation of what Mark said, right?

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It's impossible for us to really know. She's just remembering a conversation with a guy who's in prison, right?

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So like I don't I don't know how much of this is her influence and what he's saying

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Yeah, but yeah, I think I think for sure if I don't know

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well, I suppose the question for me is is

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parallel or

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very similar to when we talked about the CPAC conference in

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2013 yeah, you know and you're looking at our speakers and you're like

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Oh, the GOP was a disgusting cesspool even then but then the question is how much of their

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current fucking ethno

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fascist state was

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Simmering below the surface back then or was or is something that they've just embraced now

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yeah, you know was it always there or is it a

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A just a flowering of bullshit, you know that that is a question. I can't answer that

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That's a question that just is in their hearts. Yeah, and who knows it's a yeah

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You could take context clues from people's record and writings that they've done which is generally yes ethno nationalist you could

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I think you could probably make a robust argument for that. But I I think that

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The level to which we're seeing on this episode and in a lot of Carrie's more recent work. I

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Think it is different. I think it has been affected by

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Those worlds. Yeah, and by the the change that's happened

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I think that's the that's the issue I have with the weight now of the word

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Emboldened do you know what? I mean somewhat like every time they talk about Oh white nationalists are emboldened

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that's why we've seen an increase in white nationalist terror and you're like

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That implies though that all of this was just there right? All it took was a thin veneer

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Yeah, yeah exactly

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So does that mean that all of it every time you use the word emboldened are we really saying that?

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This has always been there in the fascist, right? I think I think does that mean yes kinda and yeah, I think this goes back to

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Populations and influencers though those two like it's such a distinction

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The influencers perhaps are emboldened to some extent. Yeah, but the people are

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Maybe being taken down a road

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So as the that's a very good as the people framing of it

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Yeah, I like that but but also I think that there is an element to where the influencers are even being affected

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Well, they have you know

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Yeah, so as the people like if you just take it on a microcosm of like Carrie she's doing her alien space weirdo stuff

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It's a lot of derivative

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Protocols shit. There's anti-semitism way behind it, but it's also goofy as hell and it's fucking stupid. Yeah

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you know you have that like sort of space and Carrie gets influenced by

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The events that are happening in the world and maybe she changes a little bit along the way

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Yeah, then there's the emboldening that happens, right? She's emboldened, right?

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It's every audience comes along with it not realizing that the source of information itself has changed

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Yeah, well, yeah

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I think I think that's a very good corollary to the feedback loop between Trump and Fox News of like

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He really does believe in the Ukraine conspiracy theory, right?

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But that's only because he was pushed towards it by the propaganda machine that was ostensibly

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supposed to be exploited by him and instead wound up influencing him and

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So on and so forth and to tell it spiraled out of control and to a lesser degree people who watch Fox

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Are being changed by the changing. Yes tone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

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Not realizing that the source of information has been very seriously altered over the past few years

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Right, like the messaging has changed whether it was good or bad to begin with is irrelevant. Like it was bad then

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Yeah, it's worse now. Yeah. Yeah, but the thing that has become over the course of a few years

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The audience thinks that it's the same source. I've always got information from yeah

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And you kind of lose track of that a little bit if you don't I mean just check in from time to time

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But this next clip, let's do it. It's just laughing

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Special powers. I asked mark if he has special powers, and I also talked a bit about my own and

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He said yes, he does. Yeah, he was unwilling to talk further about what his special powers are

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I got I have a guess

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What convincing people to murder other people you bet?

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See now that's that's the one I bet telekinesis. I swear to God I would respect mark Richards one day

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I would respect mark Richards one. I owed a more if he had said no, I don't have special powers

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That's how good I am. I'm a regular fucking guy like you. I'm just like everybody else and that's how much I work

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That's how hard I do things. You know, I'm just a human trying to make humans better. Absolutely

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They're mysterious and and as long as they're mysterious they could be anything anything you could put a pyrokinesis now in his defense

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That's a good idea. Always have your enemy guessing what it is. You can do never reveal your to be fair

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This is what we talked about with Alex and his guests all the time. It's like don't be specific

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Right, right. As soon as you're specific about your superpowers, now it's like demonstrate

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Yeah, exactly. And then you can't and wow you're fucked. Build your fucking med-bed asshole

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And this also goes back to the episode the devil's dude the Star Trek next generation. Yeah. Yeah because in

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Arbitration captain Picard forces the the alien who's pretending to be the devil. Yeah demonstrate her powers, but

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Geordi and

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The the ship has found the source of the power. Did you read the script or watch the episode?

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I read it. I read a breakdown. I didn't have time

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I didn't have time but I have seen the episode like yeah 15 years ago. Okay. I remember the episode

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I mostly remember because it begins with fucking data hanging out in the holodeck and doing a fucking dick Dickens play. I

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Remember that very clearly. I respect your ability to recall certain things so incredibly

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Well, I have a weird trap type brain. It's a see that's it. We've talked about this before

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I have a weird box type brain where a

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Nothing affects me until you accidentally hit a box and then it's like fucking Mario and a fire flower comes out

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Boop boop boop boop doo doo, but it it's it

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It's very similar to that like the in the sense that in that arbitration

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Scenario yeah card, you know you get called out. No your powers are gone because we've disabled your share

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Yeah, display your powers. You're fucked

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Yeah, mark is never gonna say like I can move things with my mind the course do it move the pencil

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Yeah, I can't or I won't ah

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The government actually oh, no you have a you power suppressor. It's bullshit easy easy

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Oh my god. It's another photon beam. There you go. Oh, no

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So let's yeah Jordan

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Raptors are good

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Sure

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Under under advisement they kill babies for chocolate, but they're good. They're good all right, but here's the thing they're headstrong

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They the Raptors are very difficult to control when you're like a human who's trying to like

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Lead a group of Raptors like you saw Jurassic World yeah

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Chris whatever his name is not pine. No no I almost said pine

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Which Chris are we tired there are so many Chris's the one whose shirt Alex stole?

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So you saw that the Raptors are very difficult to control by humans Chris Hemsworth

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No, it's not Chris Hemsworth too many Chris's conspiracy of Chris's

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This is not a problem for market

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Regarding the Raptors mark said it is especially difficult to command

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Raptors because they don't obey you easily

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That they have decided even before you give an order what order you're going to give them and decided whether or not

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It's a good one first of all you heard some jingling. That's her dog. It's really mad. Oh dog is making noise

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I thought she was wearing bangles, which I would have appreciated her dog. Also. It's Chris Pratt, but

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And so you can't begin to have a discussion with them

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About different points of view on the order

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because they've already figured out all the different points of view their minds work really really fast and

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projection decision

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So he says it is therefore difficult to command them however

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Mark is known to be quite a good commander of the Raptors simply because of their

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Loyalty and love for him they love him so much that even though they know all the angles ahead of time

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He's just unique

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He's just unique. He's special. I just don't know what to do with a person who believes that I am on honestly

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somehow I'm far more on board with Raptors loving chocolate then

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And somehow him just being a great commander of Raptors. He's a Raptor whisperer. It's ridiculous. He's so good

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It's bananas. He's so good absolutely bananas, but because he's so good and because the situation in the world is so severe

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There's so many of these alien battles like you see the fires in

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in Brazil in the Amazon you see

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Trouble in Africa you see these hurricanes

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They're all just covering up for alien battles you need people like Mark

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You need him and that means he's probably gonna get out of prison soon because they need him yeah regarding Mark's new job

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And you can see more about this in interview 10

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Basically I had raised the idea that maybe

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He is being trained in his job because he's handling like large numbers of men

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Maybe it's highly technical could be they're building lenses for

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Medicare as I understand it and Mark is in charge layboy that

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It looks like he's learning new computer programs and so on and it appears that

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The military may actually be testing him to see if he is able to be

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re-recruited into the secret space program re whether he can handle the current state of play that our military is

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Dealing with at his age and Mark does agree that this is perfectly possible

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And in fact Mark is obviously more than able to handle this sort of thing. He's great

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Okay, we have ventured purely into demolition man at this point. Yeah

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Yeah, how so he's Sylvester Stallone?

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He's being brought back for one last job because there's one side of demolition one psychopath that I mean obviously

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It's it's interesting if that's the first thing comes to your mind that know like an old kind of troll

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Yeah, the bring of the the man

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No, I I think it's just because of a very specific enemy that only Mark is prepared right to to handle

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The in the futuristic technology we don't understand violence

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Mm-hmm, etc. I

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Mean it's frustrating but it is it is it is a little bit they've created this

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World to live in where like he's gonna get out of prison because they need him to fight these red

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these reptoids and he has Raptors on his side or

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Impossible to deal with anybody else. I just but they love him. It's great. It's great. It's fun time. I just can't handle it

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well, you're not gonna be able to handle this much easier because we have just a couple more clips left because there's not much like

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I mean the substance of this episode is largely

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like what we talked about yeah, like the Randy Kramer false flag bullshit the

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Mixing in fun goofy dumb space bullshit right if real-world

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Whitewashing. Yeah

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But you heard earlier that Carrie got a new computer. Yes, I did

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Well, it absolutely has nothing to do with her issues with recording Dan. We're gonna learn a little bit more about how she got that

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new computer, okay, and

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This is a little bit sad, but also

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It's grandiose as hell. Okay, so any

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Financial help you can give would be very welcome

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To help fund this new computer that I now have and have had to put on a credit card. I

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Are will deduct it eventually in April, but I had to lay out out of pocket pocket and

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We'll be paying payments on it and interest payments as well which raises the price of the computer

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So any donations would be greatly appreciated at this time?

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with an audience of

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232,000 subscribers and

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actually 63 million

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worldwide

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viewers it seems that any small donation from any of these individuals would be quite welcome and

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perhaps

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something that you could consider and

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So that thank you very much if you do so and I will continue to

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Fight the good fight to get this information out. I don't have any like interest in kicking her at all

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But like the idea you put this computer on a credit card

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I'm not I'm not that's not my point at all

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The reason I played that clip is because there are it like this is still a monetary business

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Of course, like this is still a like I'm trying to get donations for sure and great

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I mean like you're doing work on some level and people enjoy that you should absolutely you do not have

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63 million people listening. It's really doubtful. That's crazy

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Yeah, go go to her YouTube go to project am a lot on YouTube and see how many okay if downloads

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There are I how many views there are I I that's insane. That's like Alex. Here's here's that's like Alex

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One-third of the world listens to me. All right, Putin listens every day. It is

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grandiose bullshit

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Okay

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there are very few things that I am very good at it, but somehow financial literacy is one of them and

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God, damn it Carrie

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Every fucking company runs zero percent interest promotions on all of these things

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What you need to do is find one of those that has a 12-month zero percent interest option

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Keep your credit score high and then later on you can cancel that credit card get a new credit card

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That has a zero percent 18-month option because you kept your credit high as long as you've made good payments on that

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And then you can keep going and paying this with zero percent interest

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Indefinitely and the fact that she doesn't know that means she doesn't know that raptors are coming

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That's a good point. And also I should say that this episode is so

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Fucking heavily monetized. It's an hour long and it's probably it's broken up by

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What tons of commercials really? Yeah, I had to edit out commercials. No

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Yeah, absolutely. Like, you know, like as I'm recording it from the YouTube hold on

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It's just it gets interrupted by commercials like an hour probably like six commercials

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Coming you think do you did they demonetize her? No, they if so, they would not have had those ads in there

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She is monetized on YouTube. So whatever like I don't know how much I don't know how much that brings in like honestly

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I don't because YouTube has never been an interest of mine. It's not something that I know

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Right the how many pennies you make for ads or whatever

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I don't know but her ads or videos are heavily monetized

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Yeah, so she is making some money on that front, right?

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Like I I don't know. I don't know the pay structure. I don't know the fee structure. Uh, what I do know is

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either she has bad credit or

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She just doesn't know how to leverage her credit for her benefit could be a combination of both. It's frustration

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Yeah, but I also think although that guy did scam her out of like $50,000, right? Yeah, the dude who's in prison

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Yeah, he was just recently on an episode where they recorded a call from him in prison. That can't be real

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She has I refuse to accept that. Yeah, what is this ad name from mega from we would have done that episode

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But it was only like 12 minutes long and who gives a shit. Yeah, exactly

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Um, but I honestly also think that she's lying about yeah some of this

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stuff and one of the reasons I think that is this last clip I

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Will also be considering going to Turkey and I'm being invited to speak in Romania. So these things are possible

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I do not get paid much when I do speak out there and I also

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Often have to pay my own way to and from even places

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So this is welcome to the road dog life man to consider as well

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Here's the reason that I think that that's troubling

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She's been talking about the yeah

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yelm conference this and like a bunch of this episode and

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Every single article that I was able to find about the yelm conference and they were talking about the price of admission to the cosmic

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Symposium. Yeah, it made very clear that the price of admission all of the money goes to the speakers. So if

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Two hundred fifty dollars is the ticket price for that and let's say twenty people pay for it that covers

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Travel for all the speakers. Yeah that easily covers all of the people having to fly in for this

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Whatever price it costs to do these things is minimal

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Now the flip side of that is if you're not getting paid to go speak

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Let's say in Romania, then you're not a draw

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What you're doing is not important

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Dan are you enumerating why so many comedy comedy clubs will not book me. I

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Understand the

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Desire to portray things, you know slightly differently, but you can't have it both ways

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You can't have it be like we have 63 million viewers around the world and say I have to pay

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To go do these. Yeah trips. You can have one or the other you can be like well, I mean like for us

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I'm never gonna bluff then say that we have the biggest audience in the world

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I'm thrilled we have the audience that we do but humble to like if you compare it to other large

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but like

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I'm never going to pretend that we are the biggest thing in the world and then go speak for free

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Yeah, I'll go speak for free because we do not have a very large audience

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Do you know what do you know what honestly honestly the thing that I am?

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amazed by with this podcast is that I have a

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Certain um at to a certain extent become a draw

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For two to five people in certain regions and I will tell you something right now

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That is not

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That is not nothing there are plenty of headliners more

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There are plenty of headliners that I have worked with over the years who do not have a draw of two to five people

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It's so I'm stoked about it

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It's a thing that's an authentic draw to because it's people who want to see you as opposed to they're tricked by advertising or something

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everybody

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It's not like somebody just randomly grabs a free ticket

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Although if you would like a free ticket to a show do not pay for comedy

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Give you get it anyway plug for your show. I don't have any. All right, I'm free. My point is that like with this I

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Just see duplicitousness like I I don't

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resent

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Kerry saying I have to put this computer on my credit card and if you like what we do, please donate

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I don't resent that at all. Absolutely not

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I also in a vacuum don't resent her over blowing her audience like I understand narcissism and people wanting to

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Like seem bigger than they are. I get it. I get that that's branding. That's marketing for sure at that

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That them being combined and also being in service of inflating

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Information from a murderer that is

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Alternating Lee fun and then the other side of it is whitewashing atrocities

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Yeah, can't get around that and it bums me out to be like hey

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Listen, you listen lady

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You are doing this thing and like it's sad at the end of this

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Yeah

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When you're talking about needing to put this computer on your credit card and needing donations and I no one pays me to give speeches

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It's it makes me sad. Yeah to insult you or like critique right right or bring that up

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but it exists in this like

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What this is is a long

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Long stretched out version of an ad pivot. Yeah with Alex whenever he's like the global is trying to kill you. Yeah info wars

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We got specials, you know the best special ever Easter sale is going

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Yeah, it's the same kind of thing but stretched out you have the entire presentation over

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50 minutes or whatever and then then this at the end like it's still it's still trying to like we've done this and now

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Yeah, and I just don't respect it

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know on a on a certain level if if she is correct about having 63 million

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Views, she's not. Oh, I don't I don't I don't think she's better that that could be possible

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That's possible. She's had a lot of videos. So if there's 63 million views that is not

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Unsubstantial, you know like and I mean back when you're talking about the monoculture

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That would make her a trillionaire right but over 12, you know, or whatever. Yeah, that's fair. That's that's a different

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It's still a ton. It's still a ton. Yeah, and I I'm not I'm not trying to diminish anything

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No, no, no and and and you know

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it's it's

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Free

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Content so 63 million people, you know, I get it

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if you if she was if she was a Nickelodeon in the 1910s and

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Sixty three million people went through the door. She would be actually would have at least five or six dollars, right?

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You know I get it if 63 million people watched any one of her videos. Yeah, that would be through almost three times

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Elon Musk going on Joe Rogan's yeah, which is his top-rated show of all time

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It's not it's like if you have 63 million people who've watched your videos over 12 years

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Those aren't 63 million unique people. Oh, no, absolutely not. That's it's the same five guys

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It's still great

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It's still a great number over that time

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But it's not the same as you put out one product and you have that many eyes on it

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well, I think it's I think it's partially a function of the

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The I mean, I guess post monoculture

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niche

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Entertainment sphere where and it's like nobody really knows how much their time is worth anymore

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Uh-huh, you know like a you see it so often with Freelance writers. Lord knows I know that well

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I mean you what just happened to Sports Illustrated and how they have

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Destroyed their staff and now they're trying to create those like almost multi-level marketing scheme

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Writers where it's like your best bet is you work 80 hours a week and you make

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10 bucks every time you write it, you know, I probably paid three dollars an hour

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I'm thrilled I am no and I'm incredibly grateful that we paid at all

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You know, it's it's but it's weird to to think of nobody really knows what the valuation is

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No, so I I it's tough. I can't I can't shit on her for that

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No, well at the same time I can't endorse, you know what she's saying. I don't endorse it

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Devoid of context. Yes. Oh, yes

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Yeah

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I could I could be fine with all of the the end of the episode if the other stuff wasn't there

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the other stuff being there makes it really tough for me to swallow and feel really bad or

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Our pitying. Yeah of this 100% so I don't know man. I don't know it's it's tough. It's tough

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We have this, you know this this thing that's supposed to be a break and it is in many ways

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Yeah, like it's great to get back to space, but it is also still like shades

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you still see shades of the the the modern world you still see shades of

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Fascist adjacent propaganda being put out in different communities

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Yeah, and I mean that's just a reality of it. There is there is no real escape right anymore Carrie

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I have one thing if you're listening to this. I have one thing to say to you

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It's not too late. Plenty of places are offering a

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Less than 2% balance transfer fee

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You can get a new credit card transfer your balance from your high interest rate APR credit card over to a 0%

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Interest you pay maybe a 2% fee. That's way less than you Carrie

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Get in contact with me and I will help you sort your shit out. And if you're listening, please make me a cat alien

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Oh, yes, actually. Yeah. Yeah, I would like to be I would like to be a dog merchant

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All right, dog mercantile agent over there. So

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Jordan before we get out of here. Let's jump back and give a couple more shoutouts to folks. I would love that

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We are also behind and I just love

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Clunky ass transition from us talking about Carrie trying to raise money. Don't worry about it. Thank you

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No one think about this for a second. First of all Joseph. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Joseph. Next Bronwyn. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk. That's great Ron win another good name. We've got a couple of them. Yeah a couple Bronwyn

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Yeah, I always enjoy hearing that now that I like that name. That's one of those names though where you're like

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At this point in time in 2019, you're like we've heard it twice. Is that a meme?

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I don't know. It might be a much more like a far more common name. Yeah, then we realize but it's great

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I like it. Yeah, me too. I like Bronwyn a lot next villa. I don't know how to pronounce it

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Maybe you feel via V I L L E. Okay. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy

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Wonk, thank you very much villa next Sarah. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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Sarah next Dominic. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Dom Dom a

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Yeah, one of my favorite comedians growing up was Dom I Rara sure great episodes on dr. Katz. Oh, absolutely

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I wanted to fuck dr. Katz

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I met him. Did you you met Dom I ran he was wasted. Uh, that sounds right. It was a few years back

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So when I worked at the Laugh Factory

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Back when I was doing stand-up the I was a I became a regular at the Laugh Factory in Chicago. Yeah almost immediately

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yeah, cuz you're very talented stand-up comedian and

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Jamie

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The owner of the the Laugh Factory. Yes, Jamie Masada

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Yeah was there when I auditioned and he became like a good friend of mine ish

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Yeah, he gave me his phone number his cell phone number and so far as that

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He would call me on the cell phone all the time. Okay, Dan, what's up, buddy?

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Like all this shit

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He wanted me to start a show there and like his idea for it was because I had a big beard

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He was like you need to do lumberjack comedy. Yeah

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Lumberjacks that we do a show. It's lumberjack. That's the greatest Masada

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As like I don't think that works what about female comics we put them in beard

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That's what he said, but he's like, but he gestured down to his pubic region. He's like we put a beard on

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Like that is not what I will do. Hey Jamie comedy as a business has always been great

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Yeah, so everybody knows it was a mess. It was a mess trying to deal with him

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But the other times that I would hang out with him and like cuz he would

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Every time he came to town. He would call me on my cell phone from his cell phone

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Yeah, I'd be like Dan come hang out and I would go hang out with him

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Yeah, and he would tell me these stories about like the early days of the Laugh Factory in LA

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Yeah, like with prior and Carlin right right like they were rambling fucking stories, of course

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But there were still good stories and like how could they not be one of the things it was so interesting was like the through

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Line kept being like these people would just like we would just be at the theater all the time and the club

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You know again people be sleeping there and just completely fucked up

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He's great great story, and I don't think Jim Masada is necessarily like a bad person

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But he is so distracted by all these the and dumb ideas right right he easily is

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Interpreted as a bad person yeah, and he whatever whatever the case is I was you met Dom Ira

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Yes, one time. I was hanging out with Jamie upstairs at the Laugh Factory

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Yeah, and we were having a drink and talking about a show

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I eventually ended up doing at the Laugh Factory called the people's temple of comedy okay, which was meant to be

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The idea was we were a cult of comedy right right, but you still put beards on all the women's did not do that

Unknown Speaker (02:55:31.719)

Okay, it did not work out the show was a disaster, but it was high concept in some ways

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They made us do it. It's Sunday at like 6. It was a disaster. Yes

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That's the best time for high concept

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I had another idea for a great like live comedy show that would be a call-in comedy show

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Okay, where me and another person would be the hosts right and we would be doing essentially a podcast on stage

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And then have comics come up right right, but then there would also be a call-in aspect

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Yeah, live stream it it was very kind of recreated a love line. They said no chance

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Yeah, of course not so we didn't do that, but I was hanging out with Jamie one night and Dom Moreira was in town

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And he showed up. He was so fucking wasted

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He was just gone like it was early too and the thing the bum hey, it's about 7 p.m.

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We gotta hide a body

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Anyways come on back the Coen brothers stole my bet the thing that bummed me out was like I loved him on like dr.

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Cat yeah, and his comedy growing up. Yeah, and it would have been like the most amazing experience

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I'm meeting Dom Moreira. Yeah, and he was just like one of these legends of comedy. Yeah, actually not there

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Yeah, very bad. You got the most comedy experience this you can get you know that is the

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Traditional comedy experience all that being said he was very nice. Yes, and also very nice

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Thank you very much Dominic. Yes, your policy won't Santa. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk. I'm a policy walk

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Thank you Santa Santa not Satan Santa wanna Santa wanna wanna know next my egg. Thank you so much

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You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Meg next Margot. Thank you so much

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You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Margot and apologies for

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Pleas for national lampoons Christmas vacation. I'm sure that must have been tough on you or Kidder could have been

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Yeah, the next Slade. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thanks

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Next this is not buzz marketing for there. Oh, here we go. Here we go. I promise watch out

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This is not buzz marketing. It's got some sort of foul in it. Thank you so much goose. You're now policy walk

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Sorry about that. Tragic ejecting action accidents. Oh

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I don't think so. Okay. I know there's another one coming out right that goose lives in this one

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Yes, they're rebooting it or remaking it or whatever next John Henry. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk

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I'm a policy one

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John Henry for continuing to be a metaphor for the working man against the

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On slot of automation as I recall back when I was a younger man in Columbia, Missouri

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There was a local band called John Henry and the engine. Oh

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Really like that name. I don't know if they

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Did they beat the engine or no? I'm not sure. I just remember them being a name around town

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I don't know if I ever saw them. I like I'm positive I did but can't remember any of their songs

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I think it's better than Florence on the Machine. I would prefer John Henry in that. Yeah

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Next and finally go on Chappo. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much

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No should be pointed out different person than the other go on

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Interesting how those very meme it's that's as meme ish is any of these other things. Yeah

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Yeah, you know, but it's not so much like hey ha like no go fuck yourself. Yeah

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It's interesting that you think that we would even be asked. I yeah, yeah, yeah

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Chappo sending us a

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Barrage of emails like oh my god. We can't wait

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I'm I'm I'm a little

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Disappointed in myself just because formerly I was of the anime community. Yeah, and I

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Was I am last I lapsed and the the was Aruda is

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It disappoints me not to know it. Well, you should feel some shame

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You should feel some shame about but not me because I'm not a dork. Yeah

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Anybody want to come at me let's go with read or die who's got it

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Paprika, what do you got? Let's go. It's probably some good references for people things. I don't know very good. Very good reference

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Oh, but anyway, thank you so much to everybody who supports the show. Thank you for everyone who's made it this far. We appreciate it

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Yes, thank you very much. We'll be back on Friday probably with a

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Present-day episode. I think we should check in cuz we will see I have to assume that Alex Jones is freaking the fuck out

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I don't know. I don't think anything important is happening on the world stage today

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In the present day, I think it's just business as usual for them

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I mean I have to assume I have not listened to today or yesterday's episode as a recording this but like I

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Have to assume Alex is against Trump allowing Turkey to

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Do their shit in Syria. I'm gonna go the opposite direction

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I mean, I have to assume like it based on everything I know about his

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Like sort of geopolitical stances. I get has to be right

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I mean, we'll find out on Friday, but I have to assume he's against that I I'm gonna go the opposite direction

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I think he's gonna defend it 100%

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I think he's gonna be like we need to get out of foreign wars and so on and so forth

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Yep, my man. I'm being facetious. Of course. He's probably going to do that. Oh, I'm sorry, but I didn't catch it

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You were way too good on because based on his entire career. He should be what oh, yeah. Yeah

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Of course, he's there ending it fair enough fair enough. You're right, but we'll find out on our next episode

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It would be really good

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If he just got rid of Jordan 90% of the reviews that I've read are like just glowing like this is great

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This show is great. Fuck George

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my favorite part there are

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Zero in the other direction on zero. There is no one who's like what if Jordan just did this show by himself?

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Well, you're 8% self-loading

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You're right. It's sort of it's hit the like saturation. Yeah. Yeah nailed it. Yeah

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But we'll be back for another episode soon. But until then I'm neo I'm Leo

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