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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a fifth-time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your room.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed, we are Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Have you ever had a moment where you felt like you had become old?

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You know, like disconnected from the, like was there a piece of slang that maybe went,

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I'm disconnected from the youths.

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Every single time I am online.

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Day.

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Moment.

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On fleek.

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That was the one.

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Yeah.

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That was the one that got you?

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That definitely made me feel old.

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And that's even old at this point.

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Well, that's the point.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I mean, the VMAs were last night as we were recording this.

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They're still doing those?

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I saw a bunch of stuff on Twitter about that.

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And I have like, I have almost no idea who half of these people are.

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Yeah.

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You don't know who Lil Nas X is?

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I do.

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I'm aware of him.

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Okay.

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I'm aware of him.

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But the only, I don't know why I am.

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I'm so disconnected from music.

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But that one, that one.

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It's so penetrating.

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I guess it was just because there were a lot of like right wing people who were kind of

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like upset about it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Quoting their quotes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Country music or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Bullshit.

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Oh my God.

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Fuck off.

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So it'd be like seeing a bunch of these people who I have absolutely no idea who they are

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getting awards.

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Made me feel a little bit out of it.

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And then the same thing too is like on Twitter, people were talking about like Eddie Murphy

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is hosting SNL.

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Yeah.

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I mean, first of all, I don't care about that at all, but then the board of people who are

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hosting in musical acts, I didn't know who some of those people, I had no idea.

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It was like years and years ago, it'd be like every single person who hosted or were the

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musical acts on SNL, I would be at least aware of their work, who they were.

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Now it's like, I have no fucking idea.

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Yeah.

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It is weird to be on the tail end of the 18 to 34 is where it's like some of this stuff

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is still tailored to me, but not as much as it was when I was 22.

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Yeah.

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I accept it.

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I make peace with it.

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I don't judge the youth or the, uh, the culture itself for being something I'm out of touch

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with.

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That's me.

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I've made that decision to basically just listen to fucking Alex Jones all the time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you did.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That definitely gets you out of touch with the youth.

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If Alex starts yelling about Billy English, I promise I'll know who she is, but for now,

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not really any idea.

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It's interesting that the best way for you to stay in contact with a current culture

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is if Alex Jones just reviews the VMAs or something like that, you'll, you'll be right

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on with everybody.

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I have to listen to a bunch of albums and I agree with his tastes.

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That'd be great if Alex started doing like an E show.

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Oh yeah.

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That would be fantastic.

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Some sort of like real bubble gum pop culture coverage.

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Yeah.

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Lighten up our show for sure.

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All right.

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We're going to do a Real Housewives after show.

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That would be amazing.

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So this is a podcast where I don't know much about the pop culture, but I do know a lot

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about Alex Jones.

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And I don't know much about either.

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That's correct.

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So Jordan, today we're going to be going over, we're staying in the past in 2013.

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Okay.

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We're going to be going over March 24th through 26th, 2013.

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All right.

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And some of the reasoning for that is one, I started listening to Monday's show of Alex's

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and it was largely him just screaming about China.

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And I was-

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Do you mean in the present?

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Yes.

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Gotcha.

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That's what I wanted to check out.

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Gotcha.

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Then the second variable is another reason I feel very old.

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And that is on Monday I woke up and I could not hear out of my right ear.

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Right.

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I was pretty, not entirely, but mostly deaf in my right ear.

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And it led to a bit of a freak out on my part on Monday, which cut into a bit of my prep

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time.

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A little bit.

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A little bit.

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I'll be honest.

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So we're in the past and it's going to be interesting to talk about because on our last

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episode there were some indications that Alex was veering towards the Sandy Hook crisis

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actor narrative and it felt like there was a lot of momentum going.

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Right.

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I assume that our predictions have been completely and utterly wrong, correct?

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Not yet.

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It remains to be seen.

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But he's starting to call a number of things actor involved, certainly.

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He's throwing in actors in the Aurora shooting.

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We're seeing him talk about the G20 protest in 2009.

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Meryl Streep's finest performance.

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Absolutely.

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And so it felt like, OK, this thread is getting pulled.

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And so, you know, you tune in to the days after that and it's very interesting what

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ends up happening.

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But before we get to that, we've got to give a shout out to people who have signed up and

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are supporting the show.

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So first of all, Oliver, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Oliver.

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Next, Eric.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Eric.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Next, Luke faction and Mark's.

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We've got a lot of we've got a lot of air.

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We got a lot of air coming in strong lately, lately in the future.

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It seems like we've got a lot of Eric's in this time frame in the last couple of episodes.

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I like it.

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We had a group of Eric's, a gaggle of Eric's, a murder of Eric's.

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We can't have everybody be a murderer of everything.

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Everything is a murder.

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Next, Rochelle.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Rochelle.

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Next, Benjamin.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Benjamin.

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Thank you, Benji.

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Finally, I'd like to say thank you to people who donated on an elevated level.

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We appreciate that very much.

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So thank you so much, Jonathan.

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Thank you so much, Amir.

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And thank you so much, Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, Lionel.

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You're all now wonderful technocrats.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Jonathan, Amir, and...

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Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, Lionel.

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Thank you so much.

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We appreciate it very much.

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Thank you very much.

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There's a tacit agreement amongst all policy wonks, apparently, to never let anyone completely

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get that song out of their head.

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The moment you think it's gone, it will be referenced.

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And that is a different person than the three Lionel wonks.

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So that's interesting.

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Lot of Lionel loves.

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Lot of Lionel's.

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There's a lot of Lionel's.

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So if you are listening and you'd like to support the show, you can do that by going

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to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.

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We would appreciate it.

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It'd be delightful.

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Now let's get into it.

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The 24th is a Sunday, so there was no show on the 23rd.

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Alex comes in and he's coming in pretty doom and gloomy.

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This is a heavy beginning to an episode.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is Sunday, the 24th day of March 2013.

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Pretty soon 2013 will be in the rear view mirror as well.

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Pretty soon our lives will be over, but there'll be a new generation.

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What matters is the continuity of the human species and that we get more liberty, more

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enlightenment, more freedom, not less.

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Welcome to the show.

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We will all soon be dead.

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That's tough.

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He's in a bad head space.

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I was like, it's a bad sign when March is you saying we're soon going to be the end

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of 2013.

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Yeah.

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He's making a wider time scale.

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Step back on that.

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Sort of.

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Oh boy.

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He does that a lot though too, as if to really emphasize how quick time passes.

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Right, right, right.

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He'll say 2013 will be over on January 3rd.

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He'll say it's not fast approaching the end of the year.

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Time flies, but gloomy as hell.

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We will all be dead soon.

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We're all going to die soon and the next generation, well, they're going to die soon too.

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What's important is making sure they're free.

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Sure.

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Cool.

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Oh my God.

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He is fucked up today.

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This is going to be weird.

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Right.

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And then he throws it to a clip show.

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He does what?

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He has like a best of episode.

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He did that in studio.

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Yeah.

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He said we're all going to die soon.

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Yup.

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And then he went directly to a clip show.

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The entire show?

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Yup.

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That's bananas.

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He just re-airs a couple of old interviews.

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That is fucking bananas.

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Yeah, super nuts.

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So that means that there might've been literally a producer in the, we got it, boom, let's

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do it.

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And they just tackled him to the ground.

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It's so crazy because he was at work.

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He was there.

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Yeah.

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Because I don't think that was prerecorded.

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Right.

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It doesn't have the same tone as a lot of the times that he'll prerecord a little bumper.

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It seems like he was just there and he's like, I don't want to do the show, I want to work

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on something else.

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Yeah.

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Fuck it.

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Replay that other interview.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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Pretty wild.

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That is solid.

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That is solid work.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So now that's the 24th.

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We don't need to re-go over like him interviewing Rosa Corey about Agenda 21, which is a large

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part of that episode.

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So we'll go on to the 25th, this Monday, March 25th.

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Alex spends a large portion of the show getting into something I never expected to find and

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is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard be something that is a preoccupation for Alex

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on this episode.

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If you ever wonder why you hear such demonization of the Koch brothers, it's because they are

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some of the biggest factory owners in the United States and because they are the biggest

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coal mining and refining outfit in the United States and they keep the lights on.

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Do I romanticize that and think they're angels?

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Not particularly.

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I've spent months off and on as of late trying to dig up some dirt on them that isn't manufactured

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or fake.

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And about the worst thing I can find is something that all major oil companies, supply companies

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have been done because loopholes were written, they've sold equipment, oil refining equipment

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to Iran during those decades-long sanctions.

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This is weird.

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Are you fucking with us?

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This is weird.

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I swear to God, this shouldn't be, it shouldn't happen, we're talking about 2013, right?

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Yeah.

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In a continuity where David Koch just died and we have not heretofore heard about the

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Koch brothers whatsoever.

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Nope.

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In the entire 2013 investigation.

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Not at all.

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Are you fucking with me?

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I'm not.

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Alex might be.

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I swear to God.

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I swear to God.

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It is very weird, the confluence of past and present.

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Every time.

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Yeah.

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Every time.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It's super weird.

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I know that I have heard clips of Alex where he talks about the Koch brothers.

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In one of them that I've heard, he says that they're not political, which is a weird thing.

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So I knew that he had brought them up before, but not to the extent he is here on this 25th

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episode.

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Okay.

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He has a lot to say about the Koch brothers.

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Okay.

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One of the things I find particularly interesting about this is, let's imagine that the worst

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thing that Alex did find is that the Koch family broke sanctions by helping with equipment

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selling oil refinery stuff to Iran.

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Even if that's true, imagine if Soros did that.

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Not a big deal.

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Imagine if anybody-

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Broke a few sanctions, whatever.

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That would be the biggest deal if David Rockefeller had sold around oil refinery equipment.

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He was the one who put the sanctions in in the first place.

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So of course, anybody who's breaking any sanctions is fighting against the globalists, correct?

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It's weird.

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It's a very weird line that I'm seeing here, and I don't know what to make of it.

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Honestly, there's not really a ton of this for me to research, because I can't tell you

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why Alex is saying any of this shit.

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Yeah, that is a good question.

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I don't know.

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I don't think it proves that he's being paid by the Koch brothers or anything like that,

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but it's a super weird line that he's taking.

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Well, it once again reinforces my opinion that perhaps he has a psychic link to 2013

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and is influencing his own coverage post facto in order to fuck with me.

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Maybe that's some of the technology along with the life extension technology that Trump

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has given him for being such a dutiful servant.

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Right.

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That's possible.

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That'd be fun.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Whatever the case is, if this is all that Alex is able to dig up, that means he's not

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looking too hard.

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Not at all.

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And if that is the case, then he either doesn't want to look too hard or he has looked into

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it and realizes like, well, let's just say that no big deal.

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They sold a couple of things.

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Everybody does it though.

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Everybody does this.

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Sold shit to Iran.

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Oh, they're funneling all kinds of money into things that I am theoretically against in

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2013, but I'm totally cool with now.

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They don't like climate change or regulation.

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Boom.

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They share.

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They broke a few sanctions here or there.

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Maybe their family had something to do with the Nazis.

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No big deal.

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So the thing is, though, that Alex is only getting into this, I think, because he gets

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accused of working for the Koch brothers a bit, which is a natural thing, an accusation

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for people to make.

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I mean, he behaves like someone who would be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, that doesn't prove anything.

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But it's certainly a reason why people would be suspicious.

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You almost think he is stupid if he's not taking Koch money.

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Yeah.

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Or principled, which we know he's not.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So stupid it is.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is responding to that and he gets into that and those thoughts and those feelings

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that he has about those accusations in this next clip.

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And so thank God I've been accused for working for the Koch brothers because it made me actually

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go research them and find out what they're up to and what they're doing.

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A private family, the second largest private corporation in the country that hasn't merged

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into tax free foundations.

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They go to some globalist meetings to protect their interest, obviously.

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Obviously.

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They're horrible because they're having secret meetings in Colorado.

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Not really secret.

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They're just not for the public.

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And hours of it gets released.

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And it's the government wants to destroy the family.

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The government wants to take our guns.

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The government's run by authoritarian mega corporations that aren't free market.

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Oh, my gosh.

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How do we the the the independent wealthy defend freedom?

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Oh, my gosh.

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Can you imagine the evil level of this?

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Yes.

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Seems to think that the Koch industries is like a little mom and pop.

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It's a little mom and pop store.

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It's like a little family business.

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The government is trying to regulate these mom and pop shops.

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And that's why that's why Wal-Mart is taking over everybody.

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When was the last time you walked by a good old fashioned coke coal shop?

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It's been a while now.

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I mean, it's it's insane that he can be putting forth the idea that it's like, you know, it's

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just an independent family business.

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And then at the same time, sort of perpetuating like their America's engine, you know, like

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both of those things seem to not really occupy the same space.

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One of them is like, hey, they're relatable.

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It's just, you know, like down to small business owners.

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And the other one is like they are running the whole show.

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Definitely nothing like the guys in trading places if they were mixed with an anarcho

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capitalist nightmare dystopia.

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They're nothing like those guys.

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Dan, nothing, nothing.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about how Fred Koch is a genius.

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Mm hmm.

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Which is weird.

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It's almost like before we get too far into this, I want to say that the extent to which

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Alex goes in praising the Koch brothers makes me think he's not getting any money from them

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because it's over the top, even for somebody who is on their payroll, even for one of their

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lackeys.

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Right.

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Like Glenn Beck took tons and tons of money from like FreedomWorks and Americans Prosperity.

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He would never say stuff like that.

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No, no, no.

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Not on TV.

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It almost makes it like he's so glowing and over the top that he's like, I would almost

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be like, you're in the clear.

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Yeah.

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And then he opens up even more quest to fawning.

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Yeah.

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Is what are you are you are you trying to get go, brother?

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It's gosh.

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It is gosh.

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But anyway, Fred Koch's a genius chair because they shut down the two city owned power plants.

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The third one in Fayetteville is now to be shut down next year.

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They're just shutting it down a giant, clean burning power plant.

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The media shows the smoke coming out of it.

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It's water vapor.

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That's why it doesn't keep going.

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It's it's hot water, carbon dioxide, and it fades out and you can say, well, that's still

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dirty.

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It still has byproducts that they use in steel and plastics and other products has a lot

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of distillates.

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And you notice the Koch brothers were really smart because the founder of it was a genius

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engineer, the father of the brothers who who developed all these distillation programs

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in the 40s and 50s.

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And he had all these patents for the night.

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And it was a genius who learned how to use all this stuff.

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So more I'd study the Koch brothers, I was just describing.

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It's like they're the engine.

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In episode four and the Star Destroyer is chasing the the diplomatic frigate and they're

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firing on it, they blow the engine and they tractor beam it in.

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They blow the engine of this country, which they've basically done.

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It's smoking right now.

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Then then it's going to totally implode.

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The globalists are going to buy everything up for pennies on the dollar.

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Suspicious in his absence is any discussion of like Fred Koch being a founding member

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of the John Birch Society.

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Yeah.

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He doesn't mention that.

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No.

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Which is something that he should.

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He loves the John Birch Society.

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He's researching the Koch brothers.

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He should be like, I didn't know anything about this.

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Turns out Fred Koch is one of the fucking 12 dudes who was at the first.

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This is this guy is amazing.

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Yeah.

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It's it's it's conspicuous in its absence.

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Very much.

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Especially the Nazi stuff.

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Because even going back to that, I learned so much about him from the 40s and 50s.

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I have zero more to say about the Koch brothers in that time.

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All I learned about family in the 30s and 40s was the scientific pieces of it.

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So many brilliant patents.

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So I don't know if that coal power plant that Alex was talking about in Fayetteville, Texas,

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I don't know if it closed when he was saying it's due to close.

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I'm not positive that this is the exact same power plant in Fayetteville, Texas.

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So I had to bet I would say that it is, considering it's a power plant, a coal power plant in

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Fayetteville, Texas, that is still open.

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Yeah, I know that.

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Because I found an interesting article in the Texas Tribune from January 2019 with a

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headline quote report, Texas coal power plants leaching toxic pollutants into groundwater.

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The report found that all 16 of the coal fired power plants in Texas were leaking things

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like arsenic into the groundwater and that none of them were compliant with regulations

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about spent coal disposal.

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I just want to say that Fred Koch is a genius, genius, genius.

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In terms of the Fayetteville plant specifically, people tried to argue that the pollution wasn't

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their fault.

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It was just naturally occurring.

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But samples taken from upstream from the plant were compared to once downstream.

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And those downstream had, quote, sulfate levels significantly higher.

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And it's therefore probably not naturally occurring.

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Why can't they just look?

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We all get it.

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You tried to pull one over.

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That happens.

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We caught you.

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Now just fix your fucking plant like it.

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We get it.

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You tried to pull one over.

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We've all been there.

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You had a good run.

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You had a good run.

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How much time did you get away with polluting and destroying the planet?

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Fine.

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But now you got to fix it.

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Don't bullshit me with this.

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Like it's naturally occurring murder pollution.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, that's just the plausible deniability.

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I can't prove that's my arsenic.

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You.

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Oh, my God.

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So I don't think this is I don't think this is strong stuff.

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It's very weird.

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Yeah.

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So Alex now gets into the Keystone pipeline.

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Oh, no.

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Because.

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Oh, no.

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He believes that opposition to the coal, I'm sorry, to the Keystone pipeline is just about

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attacking the Koch brothers, which isn't necessarily true.

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Is he like one step away from being like, we should just finish off the genocide of

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the first peoples?

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He's not there, but I don't I don't actually know his position on that.

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But I do know he doesn't really care if they are protesting this pipeline.

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Here's the thing about the Keystone pipeline.

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America would have gotten that oil.

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The United States instead, even Bloomberg has to admit this, you can pull it up.

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Soros is the big winner who owns the controlling interest in the big railway that is going

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to take all the tar sand oil to the west coast of Canada to be loaded on tankers and taken

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to China.

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So Alex knows that it's tar sand oil, which isn't good.

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The best kind.

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He should know then that it's really dirty, clean burning.

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So the argument that the Keystone pipeline being built with lower energy costs, because

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that's what Alex is implying, that's what he's he's his feelings are, because the oil

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will come to the United States.

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Could have gone to us.

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Yeah.

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So that's a fallacious piece of propaganda largely pushed by people in the pocket of

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big oil companies.

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In 2015, President Obama signed the spending and tax agreement, which was a necessary step

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to avoid the threatened government shutdown.

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The GOP had lobbied hard to make sure that a provision was buried in that budget agreement

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that lifted the ban on U.S. exporting crude oil, which nearly all experts agree is something

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that only benefits big oil companies and hurts U.S. consumers.

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Because that ban has been lifted, there's no reason to believe that the tar sand oil

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that comes to the U.S. refineries will ever be sold on the U.S. market.

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There's every reason to believe that if it's going where it's most profitable for the oil

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companies, a good bet is lowering the prices here in the U.S. isn't their prime profit

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strategy.

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Alex repeating this line of rhetoric is a good indication that he has no idea what he's

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talking about and has just bought the corporate propaganda line, or much less likely he has

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some oil money coming in.

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I don't think we have evidence of that, but like I said, this behavior mirrors someone

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who does or would.

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That's what makes this really complicated, and I'm not satisfied with his behavior being

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proof that he's on a payroll or anything like that.

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It's just, I get why someone would think that.

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Anyway, another problem with Alex's support of the Keystone XL pipeline is that building

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it would require using eminent domain to take people's property away who are in the path

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of the pipeline.

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It's totally fine.

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They broke a few sanctions.

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It's not that big a deal, Dan.

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Soros is the one who's eminent.

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You're demeaning.

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Alex is an essentialist when it comes to private property.

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It's one of the most important pieces of the West to him, but I guess that building an

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oil pipeline to profit an out-of-control industry supersedes that somehow.

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Of course.

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Which is weird.

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It doesn't fit.

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It doesn't make sense.

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I don't know.

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Native American land isn't American land, Dan.

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It doesn't count.

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Right.

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So Alex, in this next clip, is talking about how everything is getting shut down.

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The energy grid, it's all getting shut down.

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The globalists are going to take it all out.

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Because of the globalist liberals.

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But then everybody comes out and they're like, the Koch brothers are so evil.

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Oh, they are, man.

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You know, veterans, people I've known my whole life, don't have money to drive to work now,

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to see restaurants closing, businesses closing, roads rotting.

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But more cops.

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You can't swing a dead cat and not county, city, state, federal, armored vehicles, helicopters,

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checkpoints.

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Oh, yes, the signs of tyranny.

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As they just flip the switch, boom, boom, just grabbing the switch, boom, boom, boom,

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just all turning the lights out of America, like going down the life support, flipping

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off the switches, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click.

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And then I hear Koch brothers, demons, Koch brothers, the devil, Koch brothers, there's

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no one worse.

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Why, they flayed children alive.

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Alex Jones works for them.

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And I go, let me go check these guys out.

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I mean, sure, I know more than most people being politically aware, but let me go make

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sure I know about these guys.

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So I spent the last few weeks and I've got Aaron looking into them right now.

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We're gonna do a whole report on the good, the bad and the ugly, the Koch brothers.

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But then I come to the industrial fact that they are all that's left of the engine of

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America.

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And don't worry, so-called left authoritarians, that engine's gonna get blown.

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I can see where everything's going.

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You're gonna shut everything down.

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That's why I don't think he's on the payroll.

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Like if you are some sort of business that wants propaganda pushed, you wouldn't allow

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that.

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I don't think you would allow that.

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That's too over the top.

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It's too stupid.

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It's too stupid.

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And it's way out of line.

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It's too overt.

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I mean, I suppose the only, like, that would be a contract that they would have to go into

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fully aware that not only might he say something incredibly wrong, but even counterproductive

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towards the ends that you are paying him for.

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He could go into business for himself, as they say in the wrestling business.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He could go rogue.

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But at the same time, you know, it'll be a net gain for you, so why not spend the money?

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You know, that kind of thing.

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I honestly think that anybody who is interested in advancing a particular end would probably

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not work with Alex Jones.

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I think that the idea of hiring him to push propaganda is not in your best interest for

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two reasons.

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One is exactly what you're describing, the idea that he could just go way off script.

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It could be...

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Instantly.

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It could either be embarrassingly over the top, like this, were this to be paid, brokered

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programming.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Or he could just, you know, not really achieve your end result by what he's, because of his

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own Picadillos.

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The second reason is if you approach him and he's not interested in it, he will turn you

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into his next villain.

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He's unreliable in that way, and if you don't buy him for life, as soon as he's free of

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whatever agreement you have, he now has information that could bury you.

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And there's no indication that he wouldn't do that.

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He seems like someone, it would be very dangerous to try and buy off on the off chance that

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he has principles, or he sees a bigger payday out of flipping the script on you.

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Right, right, right, right.

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I think the Koch brothers would be smarter then to do that.

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Fledbeck is a much better option.

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I'm not saying that they would not be smarter to do that.

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I am going to say, however, that billionaires are almost uniformly stupid, stupid people.

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So toss that one in there, if you will.

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I don't know.

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I don't think that we have many examples of billionaires paying off folks who then immediately

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turn on them.

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Yeah, do you think it's just, it could just be the John Birch Society, right?

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It could just be that he's trapped in the mythology of the John Birch Society that his

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dad raised him on.

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So before he even looked into the Koch brothers, like the first thing that popped up was he's

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like, Koch, I remember Fred Koch.

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And then he just slobbers all over their knobbers, if you will.

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Maybe.

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I think that Alex is pretty into all of the political things that the Koch brothers support.

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Right.

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Evil.

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I think he's pretty into all that stuff, but he doesn't want to open up the door that opens

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into like, oh my God, they have a Byzantine maze of foundations that they use to fund

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all this stuff.

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And they're super politically active and give almost exclusively to GOP candidates.

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I don't think he wants to open that door because it too closely mirrors the things he screams

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about the globalists doing.

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So he can't really do that.

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So what he does is he pretends that they're not political and his support of them is just

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like based on this, they're a business people who are in the energy industry and everybody

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demonizes them for that.

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And in that way, he kind of diffuses criticisms of the Koch brothers that people might have

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in his listeners' minds.

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So when they hear criticism of the Koch brothers, they're able to just toss them aside as like,

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oh, they ate them just because they're in the energy sector.

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I think it serves that goal.

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I don't know if it's strictly related to the JBS.

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So you're saying it could possibly be that when he did his cursory glance into them,

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he realized that they were behaving exactly as the globalists that don't exist, that he

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says are evil.

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They behave exactly like that.

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So if he were to talk about the real globalists who happen to agree with literally everything

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he believes in, that's the problem, then he would be opening himself up for the globalists

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on the right, whereas he needs to run distraction.

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It overcomplicates the narrative for him.

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I don't think he'd be able to neatly spin all the yarns that he does were there to be

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the idea of people who behave exactly like the demons that he yells about, who have exactly

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the same social and political goals that he does.

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It becomes a plate-spinning act that's too difficult.

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No, that's impossible.

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I could see him doing this of his own accord, without anybody paying him entirely, because

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it does still serve his interests, his show's interests, his worldview's interests.

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That explanation suffices for me, but it's messy.

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It's complicated.

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There's literally no way without me seeing Alex's finances for me to tell you what...

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It would just be rank speculation.

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I'm not super interested in creating a conspiracy of him being coke-funded.

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Although it's a possibility, I just don't know.

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I would say if any funds are involved, I would say it's more of a retainer.

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They just give him some money and it's like, don't fuck with us too hard.

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Get on out of here, you scamp.

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You do whatever you do, just leave us out of it for the most part.

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In this next clip, Alex is talking about how everybody wants to arrest the Koch brothers,

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and how like, all right, I'll allow you to do that, but first...

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I tell you what, if we're going to arrest rich people just because they're rich, let's

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start with the Queen of England, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, Ted Turner, Bill Gates,

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all of them, and then after you've arrested all of them, we can arrest the Koch brothers.

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If you've got like the Soviet dream of, you know, you're in a Che Guevara outfit and storming

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the Bastille, you're in Jacobin, so you don't know what that is, you should actually find

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out before you fantasize.

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I want a t-shirt simple for you, isn't it?

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You sell a bunch of t-shirts that are really simple.

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I get what you're saying of like, go ahead and arrest them all.

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Yeah, take them down, I'm fine with it.

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But the interesting thing for me with Alex's angle on it is the chronology.

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It's like, go ahead, arrest all my political enemies, and then you can have these guys.

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You know what, I'll take them.

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If you arrest all of Alex's political enemies, the day of arresting the people on the right,

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it's not going to come.

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It might not come.

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It might not come.

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They might change their mind at that point and say, well, we got them all.

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Exactly.

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Oh, we were wrong about this.

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No, we should arrest the Koch brothers.

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Iceland just held a funeral for a glacier that was absolutely murdered by the Koch brothers.

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It's very confusing to me.

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I don't know what to make of all this.

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It's isolated.

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It is just, on this episode, it's the only time I've heard this kind of talk.

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I do think it's defensive a little bit, but about his worldview.

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I don't know what to draw into it.

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I don't know why this is happening now in 2013.

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I don't know why it's happening then.

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This obviously isn't the first time that accusations have been made about getting Koch money.

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This isn't like, I don't know what's precipitating this.

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I don't know why he feels the need to respond to it.

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I know he didn't do deep research.

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He's a thin-skinned loser little titty baby is why he feels the need to respond to it.

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If that's the case, then you would have expected him to be going on about this a lot.

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I don't know.

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It's a...

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He does feel extra defensive.

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He feels extra defensive, almost as though people are saying that he's paid by them so

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much that he's defensive about them saying that he needs their money.

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So he doesn't need them while at the same time he's defensive because he may be or knows

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that he might want or may get in the future money from them.

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And so he is defending them as if to say, look, I'm not getting paid by them, but even

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if I was, they're still fighting the good fight, that kind of thing.

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I think the more I think about it, the less inclined I am to believe that he is getting

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money from them.

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Yeah.

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Like, I don't think that this sort of a display is the act of someone who's actually getting

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money from them.

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Right.

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No, this is not somebody confident in his, yeah.

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It doesn't feel that way.

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It also doesn't really feel like an overture to them to get money.

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I just feel like it's defensive.

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Yeah.

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No, I agree.

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So anyway, we jump off the Koch brothers' narrative, which isn't really a narrative.

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It's just a weird blip.

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I wonder if it's going to come back.

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I have no idea.

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It's very confusing to me because the next day after this has nothing to do with the

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Koch brothers.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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And is weird in its own way.

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He's Captain Pollution.

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He only supports the Koch brothers when the five polluting families get together and get

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rings and bring him into existence.

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Perhaps.

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But before we get to the next day, Alex has an interview with the one, the only Joel Skousen.

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Oh, the Skousen's scowling.

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He of course is a guy who wrote a book about where to bug out the strategic relocations

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that Alex is selling on his site.

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It's a good book.

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Also apparently Joel Skousen recently survived a plane crash and that is big.

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That is big stuff.

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All right.

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All right.

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Joel Skousen tells the story of it and it sounds a lot like he's the guy from Invincible.

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I think it's, I mean, it's crazy.

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He did survive a plane crash.

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It's not like, yeah, it's not made up, but like it's waiting for him to be like, and

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John F. Kennedy Jr. was right next to me and I parachuted away.

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One of the reasons that I'm pretty sure that this is a real thing that he did survive this

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plane crash is that Alex is trying to sell subscriptions to his website by offering to

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have people watch Joel Skousen's plane crash.

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God, I hate this place.

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All right, my friends, coming up for the balance of the hour, Joel Skousen, who's a frequent

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guest here and editor of World's Affairs Brief, he, a couple of days before he was on with

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us a week and a half ago, he survived an incredible plane crash that we have video of for TV viewers

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watching on prisonplanet.tv.

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So I want to challenge all of you who are not members of prisonplanet.tv to become members

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of Prison Planet today so you can actually see the video and all the things that we're

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covering here on the broadcast.

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You want to watch Joel Skousen's plane crash?

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Sign up today.

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That's a weird sales pitch.

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That's pretty strange.

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This is just when you pine for early 2000s Conan and imagine that instead of playing

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the clip of the plane crash, he'd play the Walker Texas Ranger clip right there.

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Just a brief moment of pure levity.

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Just a little Rick rolling.

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Never going to happen.

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No.

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So I don't know.

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I don't know why they have that video.

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I don't know why Alex is using it to push his traffic to the website, but...

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Did you see it?

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I didn't.

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I don't want to watch that, even if it is real and not horrifying.

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I still don't want to watch a plane crash.

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I don't know.

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It does not charm me.

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So Joel Skousen comes in and he has some pretty bad takes and here's one of them.

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Well, no, sure.

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I mean, let's expand on this.

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It's not that we dislike people for whatever they're doing.

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I mean, we're all, you know, doing things that, you know, in God's system, God sees

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as bad.

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It's the issue is they're forcing it on kids.

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They are trying to end the family and they're trying to sexualize children everywhere.

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I should point out that this is in response to a caller who has talked about how Alex

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had Rosa Corey, who hates Agenda 21 on the show, and the caller was saying, like, I really

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appreciate that she's fighting Agenda 21, but she's a lesbian.

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Oh, that is a great take.

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That is a great take.

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So this caller was, like, trying to get into the gay agenda.

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That's a great take on it.

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So that's what Alex's response is.

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Alex's response is not good.

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No, no, no.

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And Joel's might be worse.

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Okay.

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And it is very evil.

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So I guess that's a question for Joel Skousen.

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I mean, that is part of the plan is to destroy the family.

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Joel Skousen.

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It is.

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And they're using the doctrine of rights to say, you know, this is just not right that

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we cannot exercise the right to be married.

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But it is a misunderstanding of the doctrine of rights.

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They have the perfect right to go ahead in private and have whatever relationships they

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want.

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They have the right to force other people to accept that, however, right.

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That's what we lost in the civil rights movement.

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We lost the right of private discrimination.

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And it's a fundamental right.

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If you don't have the right to disassociate, then you've really lost a major fundamental

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right.

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Why don't you discriminate in private?

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Like can you allow that exact same argument is equally applicable to, like, interracial

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marriage?

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Yeah.

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I mean, that is a wildly crazy thing.

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That take crashed and burned, if you will, Dan.

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There's video of it on our website.

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It never got off the ground, if you know what I'm saying.

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Yeesh.

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Yeesh.

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What a stupid fucking asshole.

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We're losing the right to discriminate.

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Oh, oh.

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Cool.

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That was the problem with those whole civil rights, you know?

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I feel like you still have every right to discriminate all you want, but state structures

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maybe shouldn't have the right to discriminate arbitrarily.

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Ah, but what if I work in one of those state structures?

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Then you can discriminate in your private life.

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Aha!

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But what if I wanted to do it all the time?

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Well, you're at the job, so no.

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Right, no.

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Well, what if I won an election?

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Well, you're right.

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I mean, you have every right to be naked in private, right?

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But you don't have that right at the office.

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Your argument is making more sense, so what I'm going to do now is instead say, what about

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the gays?

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Or whatever.

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I should be able to discriminate naked at the office.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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So in this next clip, Joel Skousen, it turns out he is pretty concerned with demographics

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back in 2013.

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Surprise.

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He was on that tip probably before a lot of these folks started yelling about it pretty

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constantly.

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Publicly.

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Perhaps, yeah.

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And we're losing the battle of eugenics, basically, because other more socialist economies are

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out producing us.

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The American white Christian family is not producing as many children as they should.

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And we should be having more children.

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We should be keeping them out of the public schools.

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We've got to start more homeschooling or using private schools to raise up a generation that

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can withstand what's coming.

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Well, look at the new Southern Poverty Law Center report that actually says being white

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is inherently bad.

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I mean, Ben, it's almost meant to make whites become racial.

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I mean, it's like so openly saying white men are bad, period.

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Well, we're certainly leading the point we're going to be a minority someday, and you watch,

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we won't have the same minority rights they're pushing for Latinos and other minority groups

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right now.

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So the argument against giving equal protection and rights across the board is somehow being

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bolstered by the idea of we won't have that when we're a minority, which is gross.

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That's crazy.

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When I was at the headliner for the last week, we had a conversation where he literally said

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just that.

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Yeah.

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He was like, they're not going to treat us the same way that or no, no.

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He said it the reverse, though.

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He said they're going to treat us as bad as we treated them when they were minorities.

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I mean, that's a translation of exactly what he's the exact same thing he's describing.

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And that sort of fear is is a fucked up way to live your life.

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No shit.

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Because maybe.

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No.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of the whole point is everybody does better when nobody's getting fucked over.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So on our last episode, we saw these indications that Alex is bringing actors into a lot of

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narratives.

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And I have a feeling that we're getting close to Alex going full in the Sandy Hook crisis

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actors territory.

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Right.

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So here on this 25th, March 25th episode, Alex brings up Sandy Hook and he does say

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that it's definitely staged, but it's a little muddy.

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What his point is.

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OK.

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And they're going to ban our guns.

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They're coming.

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They're going to stage more Sandy Hooks.

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Folks, let me tell you, they staged all these things.

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I've looked at them now.

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I mean, they are a bunch of murderers.

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When you see those pro gun confiscation people on TV, a lot of them licking their lips going,

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you know, too bad.

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Harry Reid's kids aren't you know, grandkids aren't dead and all this.

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And let's show the dead kids and all this.

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You're looking at some monsters, let me tell you, a lot of them are in on the fact, OK,

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they know full well, this is about they're not trying to get your guns.

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They really care about kids.

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These are monster authoritarian scum.

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OK.

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Anybody wants your guns.

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They want to dominate you and your family and you know it.

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So the reason that message is muddy is that he's saying this is all staged.

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But at the same time, he's calling the murderers.

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It does seem like he's saying they killed they actually killed kids.

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It does seem that way.

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But the issue with the muddiness of the message is that the audience, how are they going to

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hear that?

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What is the message they're going to be taking away from that?

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And if I'm critically looking at these episodes and going through them and I'm not exactly

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sure what point he's trying to make, you've got to assume that people who are in it, they're

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inundated with the conspiracy culture that's going on at this time.

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They've got to be even more unsure.

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Like if you want to believe that they're actors, then you could hear that clip.

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It's definitely staged.

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They stage all this stuff.

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And that reinforces your belief.

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If you believe that the globalists did it and killed people, when he says they're all

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murderers, that can you can hear it that way, right?

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If you believe that they're all actors, when he says they're all murderers, you could just

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think that that's an additionally, these are murderers.

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It doesn't necessarily it fits whichever version of the conspiracy you want it to fit.

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Yeah, I would say that's why the word unsure caught me off guard there for a second.

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I don't think they are unsure about what he's saying at all.

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I think they don't care.

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I think whatever he's saying right here is perfect because it reinforces whatever they

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already thought.

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They don't need to think about like, oh, does he mean this or does he mean that?

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They assume he means what they wanted to him.

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There's a lot of utility across the audience.

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And I don't I think that might be a feature.

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Like I think that might be consciously or unconsciously.

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He's behaving in such a way as to not alienate people who believe X and people who believe

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Y.

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Right.

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Just a good strategy.

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It's a feature, not a bug.

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It seems like it.

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Good strategy.

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So we're done with the 25th and we jumped to the 26th.

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And so like when I when I listen to the 25th and I heard all that Koch brothers stuff,

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I was like, this is weird.

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What is going on with this?

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And I was I was hoping that the 26th would give me some sort of a clue about that.

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But unfortunately, he hit the eject button on that plane.

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He survived the crash.

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Something happened.

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Yeah.

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And it's it takes over pretty much the entire show on the 26th.

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And again, it's another thing I could never have predicted.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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Something snapped in me last night when I saw a video that came out a few days ago,

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but only got attention in the news yesterday by the.

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Somewhat washed up Canadian anti individualist Jim Carrey, why I saw a video of him celebrating

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Charlton Heston's death and defaming him, defaming a dead man who I personally had a

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chance to interview several times and who I had a chance to talk to off air once.

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And I've never told that story because that's was private.

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I will talk a little bit about it today.

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But I had a chance to talk to Ted Nugent this morning under the gene stuff, pretty soon

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you could tell was very upset because he was very close friends with Charlton Heston.

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Sure.

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When you see people that are clearly authoritarians dancing on Patriots graves.

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It's disgusting.

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I would say that saying that Charlton Heston was good friends with Ted Nugent is defaming

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a dead man, but that's speaking of a dead man.

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If you see Patriots dancing on authoritarian graves.

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Right.

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That's just good patriotism, right?

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I mean, hypocrisy isn't a relevant complaint to make about Alex Jones, as we've discussed

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a hundred times.

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Like, there's no use.

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Oh, yeah.

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No, I was just.

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Yeah.

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I know that it doesn't like, you know, you try to demonstrate how little anything means

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that Alex says by pointing out one thing someone else is doing.

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He complains about it.

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The worst thing in the world.

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It's exactly the same thing that he does all the time.

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It doesn't matter.

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Oftentimes in the same or consecutive sentences.

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Yeah.

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You know, I expect this to mean anything, but I should tell you that I've seen at least

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two episodes of Alex's show that were largely dedicated to laughing about and celebrating

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the deaths of his enemies, namely David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

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Right.

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The only thing I think that is all interesting at all about this case is that Alex did those

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shows on the day those men died.

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This episode that we're listening to is from March 26th, 2013, and it seems relevant that

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Charlton Heston died on April 5th, 2008, almost five years prior.

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Right.

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It's still fresh in the mind.

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Sure.

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Ted Nugent was crying this morning.

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Sure.

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After Jim Carrey said whatever it was Jim Carrey said.

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Also funny point, in 2015, when Jim Carrey was going against vaccines, Alex was all about

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it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jim Carrey's onto something.

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So what has Alex and Ted Nugent so worked up is that Jim Carrey put out a parody song

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on Funny or Die called Cold Dead Hand.

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The video is basically just making fun of people who are obsessed with guns, and Charlton

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Heston's a pretty good example of that sort of person from history, and Jim Carrey does

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a Charlton Heston impression, so it all fits.

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It's easy.

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It's not really making fun of his death, which again happened five years prior.

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It's really more making fun of the expression, you can take my gun from my cold dead hand,

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which is itself a reference to Heston's 2000 NRA convention speech, and they're making

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fun of it by saying that Heston couldn't get into heaven because the angels couldn't get

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the gun out of his cold dead hand.

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All right, so Carrey made a video that got them all butthurt about their guns, so they

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decided to pick the cheapest, lamest, loseriest angle on it, which is that you're defaming

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a dead hero.

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Exactly.

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God, these people are sad.

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And if I'm being honest, if the video was Jim Carrey running around being like, Charlton

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Heston's dead and fuck that guy, then I'd probably at least concede that it was a pretty

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bizarre decision from a strategy and messaging standpoint.

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As it is, this is just a possibly clunky attempt at social commentary and parody.

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Whether or not it's effective or made its point is a question I'm going to leave alone,

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but all we're going to see here is Alex and Ted Nugent be the most sensitive gun weirdos

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on the fucking planet.

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This is pathetic.

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Yeah.

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Also, Jim Carrey's backing band in that parody video.

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You know who it was?

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Mighty Mighty Boston?

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The Eels.

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Ah, what?

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Yeah.

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Why were the Eels?

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I don't know.

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I don't want to know.

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The man named Eels.

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I don't want to know.

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I don't want to know, Dan.

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So in this next clip, we're going to see Alex is taking this very personally, that parody

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video.

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Jim Carrey is such a bad actor making a few funny faces that they're so weak and Hollywood's

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so weak and the globalists really are weak.

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And so what does it say about us that we let them dominate us and we let them control us

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and we let them sit there and walk all over somebody?

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Let me tell you something, I've got stacks of interview requests in there every day and

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I can't physically do them.

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Okay.

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I am 39 years old and have a lot of stamina, ladies and gentlemen.

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And I torture sometimes do the nightly news.

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Coming around the corner.

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I'm so angry at the tyrants.

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I roll up and do it.

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I was up here till like 730 last night shooting the special reports we're going to air this

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week.

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My shoulder was aching and from an old football injury and I had a headache and I hadn't eaten

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it, but I still just willed it.

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And I'm not saying I'm tough, 39 years old folks having to fight, having to fight to

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get the info out and feeling guilty every night when I drive home that I haven't done

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enough to defend my family and that I'm weak and I'm dominated by scum and that's exactly

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how Charlton Heston felt.

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Almost 80 years old, ladies and gentlemen.

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He's on the brink of tears screaming about this.

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Can I paraphrase that, because I was listening to that very clearly and let me try and kind

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of get some analysis going here.

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Wow, your English class is really paying off.

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Very good.

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Critical deconstruction.

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Very good.

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Yeah.

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This is...

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You'd be surprised how applicable that analysis is to just about, look, Madame Bovary sucked.

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Anyways, keep going.

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This is crazy.

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I mean, like, I understand why Alex is taking this personally because it's really the only

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way to approach this because it's parody.

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It's a satire kind of thing.

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And if you admit like, I don't like people poking fun at my positions, you look super

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weak.

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So you've got to attack as like, Charlton Heston was such a hero and how dare they disgrace.

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They were a gold star family, what monster would insult a...

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So Alex spends almost this entire show complaining about Jim Carrey's parody video.

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That can't be true.

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It is.

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How old are we?

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And it fucks him up so much that he starts reciting the lyrics to that song Hurt.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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What?

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Yep.

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And just what have we become, my sweetest friend?

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I assume the Johnny Cash thing.

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And everyone I love goes away in the end.

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And then I've got to sit there and I've got to watch this piece of garbage squat on top

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of the grave of Charlton Heston and all of us.

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They hate him because he was real.

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He was honorable.

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And he got tears in his eyes when he talked about liberty and he quoted Thomas Jefferson

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talking about the farmers, the people of the earth, the people that live and work.

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You can't really live and work in the soil and build your own system and not be pro-gun.

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Just as you're pro-liberty, just as you're pro-common sense, we must rediscover common

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sense, the spirit of common sense.

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We must pray for redemption.

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We must seek God's face and repent.

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We're going to come back with the desecration of Charlton Heston.

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Okay.

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That actually sounds like something I would listen to.

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The Desecration of Gerald, that's not a bad horror movie.

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It's a good Eels album.

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So I don't know what Thomas Jefferson quote about farmers Alex is referring to there.

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I believe I recall it correctly.

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You can't put a seed in the ground, watch it grow into something the size of an oak

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without wanting to shoot the fuck out of an oak.

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If we have to go strictly based on his past history, I'm going to assume it's not a real

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story.

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Alex does not give me much to work with here, but he does give me a little bit because earlier

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in this episode, he said that he had watched Charlton Heston's 2000 NRA speech the night

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before and it brought him to tears.

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So I kind of got to assume it's something from there.

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And he's saying that the globalists hate Charlton Heston because he quoted Jefferson talking

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about the farmers.

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It makes sense that the two would be connected.

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So I decided to check in and watch that speech.

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In the speech, Heston says that the warning smoke is always, quote, smelled first by the

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farmers who come from their simple homes to find the fire and fight.

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That sounds like it could have been something that Thomas Jefferson might have said.

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None of the language seems completely anachronistic.

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The sentiment doesn't totally conflict with all recorded scholarship of Jefferson.

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So I'm like, maybe.

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That being said, this is not a Thomas Jefferson quote, and that will become obvious when I

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read you Heston's full sentence.

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Quote, the air, the smoke in the air of our Concord bridges and Pearl Harbors is always

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smelled first by the farmers who come from their simple homes to find the fire and fight.

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Thomas Jefferson died.

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There are some anachronistic things in that.

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There might be.

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Thomas Jefferson died in 1826, a good 115 years before Pearl Harbor was attacked.

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Dan, how dare you desecrate the grave of Thomas Jefferson.

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So he knew.

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So, but that's clearly the speech that Alex was talking about.

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He said they hate him because he quotes Thomas Jefferson about the farmers.

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That's the way he's referencing farmers in that speech, and that is not a quote from

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Thomas Jefferson.

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So I was curious.

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So I started digging around the Monticello website, which houses all the collected writings

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of Thomas Jefferson, to see what I could find about his feelings about farming.

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As it turns out, he was a pretty...

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Farming sucks!

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He was actually a passionate enthusiast about farming, but that's not the whole story.

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In a November 3, 1807 entry from John Quincy Adams' diary, he tells the story of going

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to a dinner party that he had attended.

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Quote, there was a usual dissertation upon wines, not very edifying.

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Mr. Jefferson said that he had always been extremely fond of agriculture, but knew nothing

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about it.

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Yeah.

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This seems to be a really good description of Jefferson's relationship with farming.

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He was into it, but he knew nothing about it, and he wasn't going to bother to learn.

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He wrote a letter to William Branch Giles on April 27, 1795, saying, quote, if you visit

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me as a farmer, it must be as a con disciple, for I am but a learner.

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An eager one indeed, but yet desperate, being too old to learn a new craft.

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I'm not referencing this quote at all to shit on Jefferson.

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Honestly, I kind of relate to it.

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I'm becoming much more interested in plants and apartment farming these days, but I too

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feel too old to learn much about the art.

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Much like Jefferson, I'm eager to learn by doing.

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Also, it's interesting to note that when you look at Jefferson's views on farming, you

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start to see some beliefs that Alex might describe as communist.

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In a letter to John Doherty from June 27, 1810, he said, quote, I think it's the duty

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of farmers who are wealthier than others to give those less so the benefit of any improvements

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they can introduce gratis.

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I assume Alex just ignores that one, choosing instead to constantly repeat fake Jefferson

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quotes to serve his dumb gun weirdo agenda.

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I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson would have been super into intellectual property rights

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now.

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Well, maybe.

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Patent rights.

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I'm sure that he would have been totally into it.

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Maybe he would have been, but that's not-

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It's entirely possible.

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That's not incompatible with the idea of like if you're a super rich farmer, you have an

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obligation to help out the less fortunate farmers.

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Yeah.

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That seems-

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Well, I mean, specifically what he's saying is if you've created a new irrigation technique,

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then you should share it with a less successful farmer.

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Probably.

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Probably.

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It's unclear exactly from the text, but I think that's a fair reading of it.

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Your English classes again have paid off.

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Thank you.

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Wham wham.

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Wham wham wham.

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Wham wham wham wham wham.

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It also, like there is a trend in his comments about farming that tend towards like you should

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just run a small farm.

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Yeah.

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Like it doesn't-

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Subsistence farming.

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It doesn't seem like he's super into the idea of like a massive agricultural conglomerates,

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let's say.

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Right.

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That's what Alex is.

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So in this next clip, Ted Nugent comes on and Alex and Ted are physically connected

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to history.

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This is very weird.

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We understand that Alex believes in race memory and thinks that he is literally his ancestors.

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He is?

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He talks a bit about that and I know we've talked about it in the past, but I think it's

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worthwhile to hear this sort of rambling explanation of it because I think there's something you

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really got to think about based on his understanding of this.

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And that's when I called Ted Nugent, he's like, Alex, you can feel it, can't you?

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He goes, you know, we're connected to history and honor and the truth.

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He goes, you can feel it, can't you?

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Exactly.

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It's electricity.

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Because you think you're not connected to your great, great, great, great, great, great

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grandfather or grandmother.

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They raised a person, your ancestor, and that person grew in their womb and was conceived

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out of that love and that passion in that hot bed with the genetics mixing.

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And then you grew in that woman's uterus.

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And then you came out in the world and people took care of you and loved you and taught

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you and set you up on the path and had to worry about you when you went off to war and

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had to worry about you, but set you out there.

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It is hand to hand, a pure chain of electricity, a total connection.

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You can reach back if you're related to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

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And most of you have no idea who you're related to.

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There's an amazing history.

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Everybody has an amazing history.

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You are reaching back into tens of thousands of people that you're related to and all of

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their experiences and everything they've done.

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There is a literal, not just spiritual or psychic connection.

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There is a physical transmission and it's directly an electrochemical, mitochondrial

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DNA carried by the women.

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Okay.

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So if Alex believes that he's literally connected to his ancestors in the way that he describes

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and he believes all this shit, shouldn't he absolutely be in favor of reparations?

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Shouldn't he be totally empathetic towards people whose grandparents or great-grandparents

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were enslaved, seeing as they're literally their ancestors?

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Isn't this a whole in his entire worldview?

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Hold on real quick.

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White people.

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Right.

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There we go.

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Right.

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There we go.

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Now I fixed it.

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Sorry, Dad.

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This is one of Alex's nonsensical and esoteric beliefs that he uses to pretend that he's

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exactly the same as the founding fathers of this country.

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But if you take a step back, take a closer look at this, you also see that something

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is super revealing about his white identity beliefs.

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This idea that you are your ancestors is literally never applied to a non-white person.

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It seems strange.

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The way he applies it to all of this, it only has to do with his connection to fucking Jefferson

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or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Or the founding...

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Tenchcocks.

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Yep.

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All these founding fathers.

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If you apply this universally, it forces you into a very empathy-filled position.

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And because he doesn't, it makes me believe that he doesn't apply it universally.

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No.

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It's just some self-aggrandizing bullshit that he uses to give some sort of a otherworldly

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credibility to his positions.

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It's bullshit.

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It's almost paradoxically solipsistic in that it makes him the center of the universe while

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at the same time admitting that he's also millions of people.

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You know?

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It's a very fascinating kind of lunatic thing to believe.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it is just an expression of that white shit and then also his narcissism.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's interesting to think about that, to think about how minimizing he is about the history

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of horrible, horrible things in this country that have happened to non-white populations,

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let's say, and how if he believed the things he believes, all of those things happened

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to the people who are alive today.

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Yeah.

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He can't make the argument that slavery was hundreds of years ago.

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It all is happening now.

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Well...

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The Trail of Tears is happening now.

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But he doesn't believe that he did those things.

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But he did.

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Yeah, but he doesn't believe that he did.

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Based on his worldview, he did do those things.

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But neither did Thomas Jefferson.

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It was all those other white dudes.

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I know.

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Dan.

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It's frustrating.

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And what's even more amazing is that I think he's basically going off that thought experiment,

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or not thought experiment, but because every woman is born with all the eggs that she'll

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ever have, there is an unending chain from every woman back and back and back and back

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forever until the mitochondrial eat.

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It's mitochondrial DNA.

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Right, right, right, right.

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But he's somehow throwing the men in there as being like, we're also the ones that have

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the infinite chain backwards, as though it's like, nah, dude, no.

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Because after this, after he says that it's the women, he does go on to ramble a bit about

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how they're finding things about men too.

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So it'd be like, whatever, I don't really care about the scientific nonsense.

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Right.

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No, no, no.

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He's just turning this into a chauvinistic example of that as well.

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Sure.

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It's amazing.

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It is amazing.

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He has a transmogrifying into misogyny machine.

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It's weird.

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It's weird.

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I would love to ask him about that.

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I'd love to.

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There are very few questions I'd like to ask Alex.

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I don't think he would like to talk to you about it.

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No.

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I don't think he'd like to talk to me about anything.

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But there are very few things I would really actually like to ask him about.

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And this race memory stuff, is it a superpower that only white people have?

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Right.

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Good question.

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Is my first question that I would ask him.

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Good question.

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Because if the answer is yes, then he believes in white supremacy.

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If the answer is no, it opens up so many other questions about, well, why don't you care

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about the ancestral memory and experience of people that are unlike you?

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Right.

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That would be my question.

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I swear to you, I don't know why, but my instinct based on all the amount of time we've spent

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listening to him is that his answer to that question would be white people and a few Asians.

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Like somehow he'd throw in a few Asians and you'd be like, why?

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That doesn't even mean, that's unnecessary.

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So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how Ted Nugent's great because he agrees to come

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on Alex's show, whereas a lot of big stars out there have told him that they, like, we

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love you.

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We love you.

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You're great.

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But they can't come on the show.

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Like Christopher Walken.

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Sure.

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Unless he's, unless he's forced at gunpoint by the Bells.

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Oh, he's hanging out with Richard Bells or cooking.

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Yep.

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There's a lot of big stars out there who would come on Alex's show, but the globalists are

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threatening them.

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I've talked to major rock stars and I'm not talking about Billy Corrigan or folks like

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Dave Mustaine.

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This is 2013, right?

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Who are on record, but I've talked to other major rock stars, in fact, people that are

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even currently, you could say, bigger.

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Steven Tyler?

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And they're like, I can't come on your show.

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They're giving me too much heat just for linking to your website or talking about you.

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And I've been told that I'm not going to be booked in the venues or put back on television

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if I do this.

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So I want to go play the major venues.

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And they tell people that, you know, they come to them and they tell them, they tell

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famous country music singers that they tell major rock stars that they tell Hollywood

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stars that they told Tom Selleck that you're not going to get roles, pal, the better of

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your major leading man, number one in the eighties, you're done.

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You're not going to get financing.

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You're not going to get promoted.

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You're going to get zero if you don't play ball.

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And you've got people like Bruckheimer and folks that are totally committed to the New

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World Order, Steven Spielberg, others, and quit naming names and I don't like being a

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slave of propaganda.

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So if I had to guess these major stars Alex is talking about, like even if he even talked

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to any of them, I'm going to bet that they were trying to politely decline his invitation

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to come on the show.

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If I've learned one thing about Alex in my time going over his work, it's that he's a

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super sensitive dude.

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If you're a big star and you tell Alex you don't want to go on his show because he's

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toxic and crazy, the next thing you know, Alex finds a white paper saying you're a globalist

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bent on depopulation.

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He's a paranoid asshole.

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So the absolute best way to get out of a conversation with him is to tell him that the man won't

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let them come on your show.

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Sorry, man, I'd love to.

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You're the best, but I'm going to lose my career.

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More possibly, I could imagine a situation where someone in a moment of candor told Alex

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that they can't come on his show because it would be bad for their career and Alex read

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into that that the globalists are threatening them.

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Or again, it's a very real possibility that Alex is just making this up.

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Right.

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It's entirely possible.

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There are fucking lunatic rock stars in the shit though.

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True.

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Like if you scratch too long, you might find a lot of your favorite bands are filled with

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lunatics.

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A lot of the crazy ones have already been on his show, though.

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Right.

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That's fair.

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A number of them have gone on.

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That's fair.

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I think that even some crazy ones recognize what's good and bad for the brand.

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Oh, for sure.

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Going on Alex's show and buddying around with him isn't really a career booster.

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No.

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No, no, no.

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It's a toxic thing to get connected to.

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The Eurythmics were all going to go on the show.

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It's true.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't matter if they were big stars in the 80s.

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So not for nothing.

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The two examples that Alex uses of evil globalists in Hollywood are two of the most prominent

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Jewish men in the film industry.

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Jerry Bruckheimer was born in 1943 and his parents were Jewish immigrants from Germany.

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So you can draw whatever conclusion from that you like.

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He was a Nazi collaborator.

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That's the only conclusion I can draw.

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Steven Spielberg was raised Orthodox and one of the major movies he directed was Schindler's

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List.

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I understand...

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Because he loves...

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Never mind.

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I understand that these are big Hollywood guys but it's hard not to hear this as a sign

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of something that dwells...

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Like it dwells down in Alex's subconscious.

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There are other names he could pick.

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There are other big name non-Jewish people in Hollywood with far more left-wing politics

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than Spielberg and Bruckheimer.

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I don't know.

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I don't think that this necessarily constitutes anything really damning but it just doesn't

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sit well with me.

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Like when he has to pull out names of the ones who are working with the NWO, the globalists

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in Hollywood, the two biggest Jewish men in Hollywood are the names he comes up with.

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And the name of somebody who's willing to fight back against them but was also told

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otherwise is the mustachioed hero himself, Tom Selleck, star of such films as not the

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Indiana Jones movies, the moron.

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So Alex gets to complaining about China and how authoritarian they are and awful they

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are which, you know, at least he's got consistency there, you know, like he's complaining about

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them in 2013, still complaining about them.

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I'm glad history is rhyming.

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So Alex complains about them a little bit and it's pretty extreme and you'll see.

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You'll see what goes on here.

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I saw one report where a Western journalist saw the police beat a guy up and chop his

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genitals off in front of everyone and everybody watched him bleed to death there on the side

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of the street.

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I mean, you know, that's what the globalists want us to live like.

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That's their plan.

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Ted Nugent's coming up.

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Look at that ad pivot.

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Wow.

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Western journalist got some footage of someone getting their dick cut off and just left in

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the street.

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That's how the globalists want us to live.

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The nugets coming up.

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We got water.

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These water filters will cut the dick off their competitors prices.

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I mean, it's pretty that's a pretty evolved, developed Alex Jones ad here in 2013.

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That was a solid one.

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There's not there's not yelling, but it does have the extremeness that we come to see in

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the present of some really emotionally evocative imagery and negative, horrible thing smoothly

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pivots in the air.

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Water filters hasn't metastasized into if you don't buy this shit, you're going to die

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every moment of every fucking day.

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It has the same feel, though it does as the same thesis indeed.

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So Ted Nugent comes in and they complain a lot about Jim Carrey.

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So the first hour of the show is mostly Alex talking about Jim Carrey being an asshole

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for making fun of Charlton Heston.

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The second hour of the show is Alex and Ted Nugent talking about, oh, they're an asshole

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of Charlton Heston.

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So it's two hours of old white men whining.

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Yep.

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Bull.

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But also, Ted Nugent wants you to know that there are a lot of people who talk shit about

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him and people who disagree with him.

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What about the people who thinks that he's they're all fucked up?

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OK, sure.

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I would love to get Pelosi and Boxer and Feinstein and Michael Moore and Jim Carrey and Bill

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Maher and Piers Morgan.

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I'd like them to get on film and admit how much dope have you smoking?

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How many mind altered and I'm not alleging they have allegedly they talk and conduct

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themselves like cesspools of mind altering drugs.

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And I bet you if you got everybody that hates Ted Nugent, Alex Jones and the NRA and freedom

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in America, if you got all of them to take some truth serum and look in the camera, admit

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how much mind offering substance abuse they've subjected themselves to for how long, no one

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would be surprised that they are Timothy Leary run amok.

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This isn't great to hear on a libertarian program.

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I don't understand what his point is.

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All of his critics are on drugs.

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That's what is.

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Yeah, but isn't that fine?

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The one thing Ted Nugent has going for him is like an unassailable positive.

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He's straight edge?

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Yeah.

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He hates drugs.

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That's it.

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Fuck off.

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I hate him even more now.

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On this episode, he does this whatever age he is, he's like, I'm 64 years clean and sober.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't drink.

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It doesn't do drugs.

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Lame.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, that's that's like sort of his stock and trade.

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That's what he's got.

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I'm a clean guy while he's creepily writing songs about children.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's like, well, I don't do any drugs.

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I'm this creepy on purpose.

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Yeah.

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I was completely sober when I wrote I am a predator.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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Maybe he should do some fucking drugs.

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Right.

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Because when you're sober, you write songs like Wango Tango.

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I don't know.

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Oh, what a piece of shit.

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I think, yeah, I think I don't I don't think it's a virtue to not have drank or done drugs,

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but he does.

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And he uses that as a way to attack his enemies.

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And I guess I can't say anything because I have a smoking dope.

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Yeah.

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You have smoking.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So I guess my opinion on him is invalid.

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I have.

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I have also smoking a lot of dope in my head.

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You can't talk shit on.

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So I guess I guess the fact that I have not morally never mind.

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Right.

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I mean, he's applying morality to drug use or at least like if you have used drugs, you're

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not a credible person.

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Right.

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Which I don't think lines up with libertarian ideas.

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Probably not.

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Well, I guess it could be some sort of really weird version of libertarianism where it's

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like, I think you're invalid in your arguments if you do drugs, but I think you absolutely

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should be able to.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I guess that is possible, but that seems fucked up.

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That's just too much work.

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It seems weird.

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That's just too much work to believe all that.

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I'm going to buck convention and still criticize Ted Nugent, even though I've done drugs.

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I like it.

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And part of the reason is he says shit like this.

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And think of Todd Balding as he bled to death and took his giant ugly RPG rocket right in

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the guts.

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And he bled to death fighting for freedom and going after terrorists who attack Americans

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because of their voodoo ala puke Muslim insanity.

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And if that's not worth inspiring you to join the NRA, to communicate with your elected

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officials and do your duty as we the people, then I don't think there's any hope for you

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and you probably ought to just move to Canada.

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That's gross.

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That's so gross that Alex gets a call later in the show from someone who was like, that

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made me sick.

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Like, hearing him talk about this soldier getting an RPG to the gut.

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That was disgusting.

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And then Alex's take on it is to respond like, yeah, you know, he's not hip about how the

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globalists use the terrorists in order to blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Which was responding to the wrong complaint.

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No real criticism or pushback from the Muslim ala puke shit, which is disgusting.

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Yeah.

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No one seems offended by that.

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That just flies on Alex's show.

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And from Ted Nugent.

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I didn't even catch, at first I didn't catch the ala part.

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I thought it was ala puke.

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Like chicken ala thing?

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Yeah, so I was like, why are you adding puke on top of that?

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I guess that's interesting.

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And then it turned out to be even more racist.

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Of course.

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I really enjoy listening to Ted Nugent say shit that is purely and utterly unconnected

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to his reality with such moral authority.

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Sure.

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And all of the shit that he says and does is fucking nonsense shit talk that he won't

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and can't back up in any meaningful way.

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And you can hear in that clip even that it's all in service of trying to get people to

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sign up for the NRA.

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Exactly.

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He's even promoting multiple times during this interview, hey, the best thing you can

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do is buy a subscription to the NRA.

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And you know what?

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You've got people in your life.

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Buy them subscriptions.

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He's doing an ad pivot.

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100 percent.

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It's fucked up.

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It's a large portion of what they're trying to use this Charlton Heston desecration as

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as a way to get people to...

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Sales.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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So Ted Nugent, we're not going to listen to a ton of his interview because it's largely

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just bullshit.

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Yeah.

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So it's really funny, once it's over, Alex gets really mad at his audience and he calls

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them pathetic.

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This is a weird way to treat your audience.

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Is he clinically projecting and yeah, maybe a little bit.

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Most of you don't fight this tyranny because you're cowards.

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And it is so pathetic.

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Well, it's not nice.

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It is so absolutely, completely pathetic at so many levels, you're allowing the evil to

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take over.

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That's the danger.

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You're afraid of acting like a sheep bringing in the wolves, your wolf bait.

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But instead, you think it will protect you groveling under the dark wings like coyotes

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of the New World Order.

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It will not do that.

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And you have a responsibility to speak out against this.

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But you know, you're afraid of what your neighbors think, much less the government coming after

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you.

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I mean, I can't believe how people care what others think or someone laughing at someone

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who you don't know.

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I mean, if I know somebody and they're trying to do something to me, I take it personal

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and then don't like it.

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But if I don't know somebody, you're laughing at me.

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I mean, if I slip and fall at a grocery store or something, everybody's pointing and laughing.

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I'm not embarrassed.

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I get up and make a joke.

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And I just don't understand the unconfident patheticness, the spirit of patheticness that

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has absolutely taken everything over.

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There is an amazing irony that Alex is yelling about people, caring about people, laughing

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at them after spending two hours of Charlton Heston.

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He spent two hours complaining about a fucking parody video on Funny or Die.

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That's hilarious.

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You all are pathetic because you care what people think about you.

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Man.

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Fuck you, man.

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That is the most projecting that you can possibly do.

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Yeah.

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Like, oh, oh yeah, when people laugh at somebody that they don't know, it's like, ugh.

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Just wash that shit off.

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Just brush it off your shoulder.

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Why are you being mean to Charlton Heston?

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He quotes Thomas Jefferson about farmers and they hate it so much and he's a hero and I

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hate the eels.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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That's ridiculous.

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It exists on the same show.

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Same show.

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It's crazy.

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So Alex goes to take some calls.

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And I think I know what that means.

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And I think you will know what that means in the middle of this clip.

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But there's two things that it means.

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One, learn.

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The other thing, it means that it's time for callers to say completely crazy shit.

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And then one last thing, these huge armored vehicles, they have a serious weakness that

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their windows, if everybody has paintball guns and wrist rockets to shoot paint, that

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makes them like a turtle you're tipped over.

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Where did you do that research?

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I just looked at them and looked for their weaknesses and they don't have a lot of weaknesses

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with small arms fire, but their windows, if they can't see, they can't drive.

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And paintball guns are inexpensive.

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So Alex is eating lunch.

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That was what I was teasing there.

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Alex is fucking eating lunch, does not care.

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All right caller, tell us about how we should fight tanks with paintball guns.

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Where did you do that research?

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Nom, nom, nom, nom.

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Yeah.

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Which is good.

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He's eating, so he doesn't really mind, is caller, advocating fighting tanks with paintballs.

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So what you're saying is the way we defeat tanks, why are we defeating tanks?

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Anyways, I'll take my answer off there.

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I mean, I would assume if you're at the point where you're shooting at tanks, they're probably

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going to shoot back at you and shoot a paintball, even if it's maybe not a live round.

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I think you're probably.

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Nah, they'll just get paintballed and then be like, ah, we lost.

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We lost the war.

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Generally speaking too, if you're in a situation where you're shooting on a tank, it's just

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a tank.

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There's no one else with the tank.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So the windows getting covered with paint is going to be like, we won.

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Well then the tank can't see.

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Right.

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I think that this, first of all, this caller's dumb as shit.

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Second, Alex is hungry.

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And that's why he takes calls.

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I think I'm starting to-

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It's only when he's hungry.

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I'm starting to realize he always says he's going to go to calls and then never does,

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but only does when he's like, I got to eat.

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I'm hungry.

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I'm so hungry.

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I'm getting a little bit-

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I need some time off Mike.

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So I'll let callers say stupid shit while I chew.

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Oh God.

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I want to, I wish he would just eat far more audible.

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I want him to eat chips on Mike while he's taking calls.

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I want it.

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I want it so bad.

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I want to hear a satisfying, like the life's very fragile.

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You're an ASMR guy.

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Oh, I love it.

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So Alex, you know, he's called his audience pathetic because they won't fight against

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tyranny.

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Sure, sure.

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And Alex has a new plan of how he's going to fight back against tyranny and he explains

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it in this next clip.

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I mean, this is a war, ladies and gentlemen, and it takes strategy and it also just takes

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brute force and mass.

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And I'm going to launch a million bumper sticker operation.

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I'm figuring out if I have the money that looks like it'll cost something like a hundred

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thousand dollars and then put them in the magazines and people can buy them at cost

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in bulk.

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I may have to charge, I say at cost, I have to charge a little bit more because of the

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cost.

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A million bumper stickers up around the country, I mean, that's just an example of devastating

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the enemy to create that solidarity, that awareness.

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So like this million bumper sticker operation, that like 30 second clip is so telling.

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There's two things are very clear in it.

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One of them is that Alex's only strategies in terms of a battle, they seem to also have

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heavy overlap with promotional possibilities.

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Yeah, it is interesting.

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The million bumper stickers going out there is a amazing way for him to get the audience

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to do his advertising for him.

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Of course.

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So there's that.

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And it's pretty universal in terms of almost every call to action that he throws out to

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his audience.

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He's like, go ahead, put our videos everywhere, post them to your social media.

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You got to make sure people are awake.

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Get the word out.

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Right.

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You just got to wake people up and then everything will be fine.

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It's remarkable that every single thing seems to have Alex's bottom line firmly in place.

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Like that's why when that Google whistleblower came on in 2019, it's like, we're not going

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to link to your medium, we're going to show the InfoWars article for it.

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It's the information isn't as important as the conduit that Alex is promoting.

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Of course.

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The million bumper sticker operation is first and foremost advertising.

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That is key to understand.

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The second thing is he's like, I'm doing this to fight tyranny.

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It's going to cost me a bunch of money to put these in the magazines are going to sell

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to you at cost.

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Well, actually, I'm going to have to charge a little more because of the bumper sticker.

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Well, yeah.

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So he's passing the cost of it on to him.

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No, I mean, there's a little bit extra.

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I'm going to charge you more in order for me to sacrifice this bumper sticker operation

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that is really just advertising for my website.

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Right.

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This is how this works.

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It costs 30 seconds is so revealing.

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It costs me one dollar to make this lemonade and I charge you two dollars for it.

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Now, this time I'm only going to charge you one dollar for it.

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I am going to add ice, though, which is three dollars extra.

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Now think about the savings, dad.

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That doesn't even include the amount of advertising that he's getting from that.

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You can't even factor that into your lemonade analogy.

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But it's crazy that whatever whatever cost that he would need to pay in order to get

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a million in the wild instances of his website being put up on stop signs or whatever would

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be prohibitive.

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That would cost so much.

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But if you masqueraded as a like, we're going to bring the community together with this,

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like you're able to get people to do it for free.

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It's very sneaky.

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Also, I think we can learn from that clip that daddy was a little hangry now that he's

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had something to eat.

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He is far less a you guys are pathetic.

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You're all weak.

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You're all doing so powerful.

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If you advertise for me, you had Snickers.

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All right.

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You guys come on.

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He's a living Snickers commercial.

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He really kind of is, isn't he?

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So on the 26th year, we get to Alex bringing up Sandy Hook and we get to see a little bit

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more of what his thoughts are.

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And there's a very good chance that Sandy Hook has some staging provocateur.

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There's no doubt on Aurora.

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Just no doubt that is a mind control operation out in the open.

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That is a mind control operation out in the open.

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And it is just off the charts disgusting.

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So one of the things that's illustrated there is, again, you're not sure what argument he's

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making.

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There's provocateur-ing.

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There's staging.

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What does that mean?

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What specifically are you saying?

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If you believe there are actors, do you hear exactly what you want from that?

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If you believe the globalist set up a patsy, you hear what you want from that.

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It's becoming much...

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It's very muddy.

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I'm not saying he was ever super specific about what he believed, except for in that

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one instance from months back when a caller was talking about actors and he said that

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this is disgraceful.

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You shouldn't say that about a grieving parent.

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That's the time that it's been most concrete.

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But now there's such a muddiness to it that it makes me very uncomfortable because I can't

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really nail down what he means.

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Provocateur-ing could mean a whole list of things.

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Staging could be a ton of different things.

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But what I can say definitively is that it's very consistent that Alex can't talk about

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Sandy Hook without the crutch of Aurora.

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He needs that as some sort of solid ground for him to stand on while he points to Sandy

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Hook, which isn't good because his arguments about Aurora are terrible.

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But he's established them as pieces of his rhetoric.

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So he uses that as his waypoint to get to where he needs to go.

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If we didn't know that the conclusion eventually is going to be him saying that it's fake,

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this would be very confusing.

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But since we know that, it does seem like he's using that as a way to get where he's

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inevitably going to go.

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Right.

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It does.

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I just don't know why that makes any sense though.

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Like why is it currently he's being somewhat restrained on Sandy Hook, but going confidently

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and whole hog and saying whatever bullshit he wants to about Aurora?

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It doesn't make sense to me, even with the past context.

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But that kind of ascribes a certain intention to this.

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And I don't know if he is doing it on purpose to set us up for the big reveal that all of

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Sandy Hook was fake.

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That doesn't make any sense.

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It doesn't.

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I think that there's probably a couple elements of it, because I think on a human level, when

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Alex was talking to that caller about how horrible it is, the idea of treating a grieving

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father that way or insinuating that their child didn't die is a monstrous thing.

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He's a parent.

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He knows what that would feel like.

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Yeah, of course.

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I think on a human level, he does understand that and doesn't want to drift into this territory

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without some sort of a reason or a backup to do it.

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At the same time, he recognizes that it's a very marketable space.

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There's a lot of interest in that in the community, the conspiracy community.

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So obviously, in terms of raising profits, being more interesting, being on the cutting

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edge of that community, that's a place he wants to be in, but knows that entering it

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is monstrous.

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You can rationalize away the Aurora shooting not being as monstrous to attack in this way.

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Because it was people.

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It was adults.

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It wasn't a school shooting.

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It wasn't children.

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That's one piece of it.

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And then the second piece of it is there are a ton of things about the Aurora shooting

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that are fucked up in terms of things that cause suspicion, him dying his hair.

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He was a grad student in ways that you can misinterpret to make suspicious.

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There are a ton of things that are like footholds for him about that that make it very easy

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to spin, and it doesn't seem as monstrous as doing that about the murder of children.

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So I think he can...

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Because there are so many what abouts with the Auroras, nobody is going to have an argument

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and then have an answer for every single thing immediately.

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And he can get there easier.

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The emotional distance is much less immediately monstrous.

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So I think he can do that there and solidify that as a talking point, as a piece of his

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worldview and narratives.

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And then he can use that to rationalize the Sandy Hook stuff.

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So you're saying that this is almost an internal struggle with him.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I mean, you'd have to...

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He's the only one who would know.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Of course.

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I could see it being that.

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And I don't know how much of that is me just needing a narrative myself.

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Yeah.

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You know, how much I desire this to make sense.

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Right, right, right.

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I don't know.

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It's entirely possible this is meaningless nonsense and it just happens.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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It could be completely subconscious.

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He may not have any awareness of it.

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Or I mean, there's a possibility that it is a crass financial consideration.

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And they're like, they've realized that it's a super popular conspiracy.

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This is where we got to go.

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And if we just say it's fake, then we're going to lose a lot of people who recognize that

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that's monstrous to say.

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We're going to alienate consumers if we just jump into it.

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So let's find a way to do it that alleviates that concern.

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I think that's less likely, but it's possible.

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Or it could just be like blindly fumbling around.

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Like he could just be feeling it out.

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Yeah, that one sounds like it makes the most sense about everything is chaos.

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Yeah.

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I don't think that you get to the point Alex is at by blindly just going wherever the wind

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takes you.

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Right.

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I don't think that you're able to make a million dollar, millions of dollar operation like

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he has just coincidentally by being able to scream really well.

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Right.

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I don't think that that's possible.

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There's some intention that goes behind the content that he puts out.

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What exactly that intention is, is very difficult to nail down.

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Yeah.

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So we'll see about that.

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I don't know.

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And I think my feeling on it is very similar to where we were last time, but I still feel

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like there's evolution happening.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, we get a call and I keep this call in its entirety, which I rarely

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do, because I think it illuminates something very, a rare glimpse on Alex's show.

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This is a call that Alex gets from someone who wrote an article that was used as a source

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in InfoWars reporting.

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And this caller believes that Alex and InfoWars misused his information.

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I think the caller's right.

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I would say so, considering he wrote the original article.

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And so Alex's take on this is really interesting because first of all, we know he's very sensitive.

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He can't handle criticism.

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And also this is very threatening.

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Right.

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Oh, absolutely.

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So this is about two minutes long or so.

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A primary source calling him?

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That's the most terrifying thing you can think of.

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Yeah.

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So this is kept in its entirety.

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And I think we should listen to it because I think it's an interesting journey through

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Alex's defensiveness, sensitivity, and inability to handle or respond directly to criticisms.

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When criticism is made, he must deflect and turn that criticism into something different.

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Must create a straw man.

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Let's talk to Glenn in Tennessee.

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You're on the air listing on GCNlive.com.

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Go ahead.

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Hey, Alex.

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How are you?

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I'm good.

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Thanks for holding.

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Welcome.

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And a pleasure to be here.

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And I wanted to thank you.

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You have indeed woken a lot of people up.

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But I called today because I have a bit of a bone to pick with InfoWars on an article

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that I wrote last year that they used as one of their chief references, Ethan Hough, and

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that you have quoted on the show.

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And Glenn, I mean, what's the name of the article?

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Let me just get a pin here.

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In memoriam, Andrew Wordes.

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You remember Andrew, the chicken man they called him?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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The guy they basically killed.

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Well, they did indeed.

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And my point was the banality of evil in this country and the internal enemy is more dangerous

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than the external.

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As bad as agenda.

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But what did I do wrong?

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I sent reporters there to cover it and I said it was wrong.

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They killed him.

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What else can I do, man?

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I can't even keep track of what my own crew's doing half the time.

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It's not like I'm all seeing, man.

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You know, I'll answer you if you'll allow me.

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Go ahead.

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It's the the report that you sent turned it into an agenda 21 story when it really wasn't

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if you listen to his friends and family, it was the banality of evil of local bureaucrats

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doing this.

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I agree.

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And that agenda 21 empowers them with a more scientifically designed template to manifest

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their evil.

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Yes, they do.

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But that was my point.

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I tried writing Ethan Huff to make the correction and never got a response.

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And that was that was Ethan Huff doesn't doesn't write for us.

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We linked to somebody stuff.

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God bless you, sir.

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You know what?

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I am a piece of garbage.

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You're right.

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I'm a piece of filth.

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So Alex is super defensive and sensitive there at the end.

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And to like, all I think of is that Lucille Bluth that I am a terrible mother, that defensiveness

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to try and like, like facetiously deflect criticism.

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And it's like, that's not like whatever this guy is saying, it's kind of a nuanced point

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he's trying to make about his reporting that was misused.

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He doesn't even substantially seem to disagree with Alex said, you've woken up a lot of people

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right off the bat.

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Sure.

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I don't disagree with him about like, well, this was a story about a guy who got killed

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by the state.

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Right.

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But you just misrepresented the way in which I reported the story.

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And clearly this guy has talked to the family members of the guy, the chicken man we talked

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about long time ago.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has to respond to that as if it's some sort of an attack on his character.

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I didn't do it.

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Oh, sorry.

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I am garbage.

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Yeah.

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That's a, that's a real vulnerable, scared, insecure, sensitive dude.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's very sad.

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That clip is absolutely the reason where anytime, anytime somebody's like, Oh, what would you

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ask Alex Jones?

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Or do you, would you talk to Alex Jones?

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It's like, there's no point.

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That guy didn't even say anything.

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He didn't even like, he didn't even get the chance to make his full point before Alex

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was like, well, I can't be perfect.

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Fuck you.

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I can't do anything.

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You're the worst.

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Oh no, I'm the worst now.

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I'm a trash boy.

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Yeah.

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Well, okay.

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Fine.

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Then goodbye.

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Right.

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Go away.

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Right.

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It's a, it, you're never going to get any headway.

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He's very defensive.

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He's very sensitive.

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Any mild criticism is treated as the, like a deadly attack.

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The slightest criticism of Charlton Heston causes a two hour crying binge with Ted fucking

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Nugent.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is like, uh, because he spent two hours, uh, with his Charlton Heston, Jim Carrey

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nonsense.

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Right.

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He hasn't done any covering of the news really.

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No, he has not.

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So he got a nice little snack in them.

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He did.

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And he's like, wow, we got a lot of callers and I got to get to the news.

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So I think I'm going to overdrive.

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Oh no.

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So he goes into overdrive.

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He takes one call and then he's like, man, fuck this.

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Just hands off the show to a guy named Richard Reeves.

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Okay.

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Who is a shill for young jeopardy.

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Oh, they just do a 20 minute infomercial about getting on the info wars team, which is the

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multi-level marketing scam for young jeopardy products.

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It is crazy.

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It's just this Richard guy interviewing a guy who is a distributor.

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There's a top level distributor.

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He's like, you know, you know, what's great about this is the product sells itself.

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All you got to do is get this Clemson study, show it to people and it's like, well, whatever

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claims I could make are nothing compared to this study.

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And you know what?

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Hey, real estate.

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It's a great investment, but wow, man, it's disgraceful.

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He's a con man of the highest caliber at the lowest level.

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So anyway, they have this infomercial and I'm going to play this one clip of it because

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I think it demonstrates like how bad everyone else is at this and why they need Alex.

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Why Alex is such an important piece of this.

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Like people buck back against me whenever I'm like, Alex has a definitive talent.

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There is a talent that he has, whether that talent is being used for evil is a whole different

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question.

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And of course he is, but he has a talent and all you need to understand that is listen

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to this fucking 35 seconds.

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A little bit about Tom before we intro Tom is he's got his own radio show.

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He's had the longest running radio show on the home business side of the home business

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network side of the of the business.

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Tom Chenault has had the longest running home based business show.

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I'm sorry.

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I got a little bit nervous there, but anyway, Tom has had a long running show based about

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home business and he covers it like no other.

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I've heard a show many times on GCNlive.com.

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That's not good.

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Wow.

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That does not inspire confidence in me to be tricked by your scam.

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Man.

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Alex would never fumble like that.

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That's painful.

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That was like, that's too much of a parody of somebody failing like that.

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He repeated it four times, got it wrong individually three different times.

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And then at the end he says, I've used this stuff, I listen to the show all the time.

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Right.

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He's amazing at it.

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Yeah.

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That's the sort of thing that if it's in a sitcom, Alex comes out of nowhere and tackles

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him.

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Yeah.

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He sees the sales numbers spiking downward, but just like, no, get him out of there.

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Yeah.

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Rob, do you tackle him?

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I'm eating, uh, walks in later with the sandwich anyways, buys some shit.

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The cool, casual, not even casual, but the collected intensity that Alex has when he's

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doing these sales pitches and like trying to convince you that your family needs these

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products and how great an idea it is for you to start your own cottage business of Infowars

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team shit.

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And how apocalyptic it is for you not to.

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Right.

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It's so different than this and this is bad.

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That's bad.

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Yeah.

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I could never fall for his scams, but I could see someone falling for Alex's.

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Yeah.

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I could not see someone falling for this.

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It's bad.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, I don't know.

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Uh, that guy sucks.

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He's terrible at this and, uh, that, uh, that's the rest of the show.

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It's a, it's weird.

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I don't like, I don't think there's a ton here like in this episode of like actual content

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from Alex's shows because one day he spends a lot of the time rambling about the Koch

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brothers and I got nothing on that.

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I don't know.

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I, I want to, trust me, I want to come to you and say like, he's talking about the Koch

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brothers and I've dug into it and I could tell you for sure Alex is on the payroll.

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Right.

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I want to be able to do that, but that would be dishonest and stupid.

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Uh, all, all I can say is he's acting fucking weird and defending the Koch brothers and

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that's fucked up.

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So that's one day.

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And then the next day he's just screaming about fucking Jim Carrey for most of it.

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I'm talking to Ted Nugent about how Charlton Heston's a great dude.

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I sometimes you go deaf in one ear, you tune into some shows and he confuses the shit out

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of you.

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That'll happen.

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That's kind of where I'm at.

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That's a day.

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I don't know what he's doing.

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I want to tell you I know, but I don't know what he's doing.

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That is, that is the central quest of this show, isn't it?

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Trying to make sense of the nonsensical.

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There is no body of work that will ever adequately explain what the fuck is he doing.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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Let's do it.

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So anyway, we'll be back for another episode soon.

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Indeed we will, Dan.

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In the meantime, would you like to visit a website?

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I would.

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I, uh, there's this great website.

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Hold on.

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Okay.

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It's in the top five.

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It's in the business home section of the yellow pages.

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Uh, uh, knowledge fight.com.

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Have you ever been there?

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Yeah, it's good.

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I watch that show all the time.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are.

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It's at go to bed Jordan and at knowledge underscore fight.

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Yes.

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And we're on Facebook.

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We are.

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And if you wanted to download the podcast, you could go to iTunes.

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You could, while you were there, you could read a review.

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You could write a review.

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Uh, you could go to the home business section.

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Of course.

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You could also go to your local home Depot, uh, in their, uh, gardening equipment.

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Uh, you will see those little, what are they called?

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The little shovels.

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What are they called?

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Trowel.

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Trowels.

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Now let's fight comes with every trial purchase.

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Okay.

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I thought you were going to say that if you survive a plane crash, like Joel Skousen,

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then you get an episode.

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I only do a couple of plane crash riffs, uh, an episode.

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It's best to keep that to a minimum.

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Uh, until next time I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I am the Jesus lizard.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.