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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan! Yes sir.
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Dan! Hi. You ever play Super Mario, uh,
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the RPG? Legend of the Seven Stars? I don't, wait,
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I know I played Paper Mario. No, not the same one. I didn't play the
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original one. This is the SNES one. No, didn't play that, but I played the shit
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out of the Thousand Year Door, and that next one after that Super Paper Mario
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maybe? I don't remember, I never played the Paper Mario.
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Paper Mario Wii U, I don't know. Are those, are those RPGs? Yeah, yeah.
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Oh really? They're fun as hell, but then the, uh, the, uh,
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the, it fell apart. The Paper Mario series fell the fuck apart. Oh no, what happened?
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The Wii U one, uh, involved, like, paint. It got torn in half.
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Yes, there we go. Yeah. Alright. Hey! It got crumpled up and thrown in the garbage.
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It was just not all that fun. Uh-huh.
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As I recall, the Paper Mario one about the paint, you have a hammer and you go around
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and it has paint in it and you hit things and you recolor the world. It just was not,
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not fun. It got very tedious. Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all.
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But the Thousand Year Door was super fun, it was really good, liked it a lot. I don't
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know what else to tell you, I liked it a lot. I have, I have heard good things about the
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Seven Stars, but I haven't played it. Oh man, that was, I've probably played that
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game like fifteen times and I, there's the Awesome Games Done quick marathon going on
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right now. Interesting.
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Which is a, it's like a massive- Speed run kind of thing?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's all about donations to a non-profit in the, you know, states that
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does all the cancer research and shit like that. And I love that game so much and I found
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out that somebody was speedrunning it on ABGQ and I was like, oh fuck! So I've been watching,
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I've literally been watching a guy play Super Mario for the past two hours and it's fucking
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amazing. That's nice.
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I love it. He's so good at a game that I was okay at. And it's an RPG.
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There's something gratifying about watching people play something you've played very fast.
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Yeah. I don't know why, but it is-
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It's weird. Well, I mean, that's a good game. It's nice
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to reflect on that. I told you before the show, I've started playing Hollow Knight.
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Yes. Which I'm super into. Thank you to my buddy
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Matt Crane for the recommendation on that one. I like it. I'm not good at it, but I
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like it. I end up wandering around places for a good two hours like, the fuck am I supposed
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to go? Still, the art and the music of it is just delightful. Gameplay is fun.
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Fantastic. This is now a video game podcast.
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I think it might as well be. We were on Twitch for a while.
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No, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.
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That's correct. It's been an interesting week here on the podcast with a Bill Cooper
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episode on Monday, and then a wacky Wednesday, John Waterman, not Dr. Waterman.
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Not a Dr. John Waterman? Episode on Wednesday.
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But now it is time for us to come back to Alex Jones and the world of Info Wars.
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And today what we're going to be going over is a little bit of a snapshot of the life
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of Alex Jones in 2018, or sorry, 2019. Heh heh, checks.
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There we go.
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We're going to be going over January 8th, 2019, his show, and then his live broadcast
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that he did that evening when Trump was giving his speech from the Oval Office.
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Okay, now historically, when we've gone over a show, and then there's a live broadcast
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immediately after that, that live broadcast is drunken and angry.
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He seems a little drunk, but don't get your hopes too far up on that.
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It doesn't go four ways to learn or anything like that.
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Okay, all right.
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But he is a little bit unhinged, and it'll be interesting to look at.
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But first, we have to give a shout out. Don't have to, we would like to give a shout out
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Now, we get to our business at hand.
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And one of the reasons why I was a little bit reluctant to do any Alex Jones content
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this week was because, like I told you off air, the 2009 stuff hit a little bit of a
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snag.
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There was a little bit of boredom on Alex's part back then in our chronology.
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And so I didn't want to get into that.
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But at the same time, there was all this talk on Trump's part and in that world, that sphere,
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about the idea of Trump declaring a national emergency in order to get the wall made.
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Right.
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And I knew that that was going to play out in a particular way, but I didn't know exactly
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how it was going to play out.
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I kind of got the sense that all of this was much do about nothing and people were getting
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all worked up and it was going to be, you know, kind of disappointing.
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Yeah.
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It was going to be a dud.
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I got the sense I got, but I didn't want to cover it until we actually had content to
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go over.
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And so January 8th is Tuesday's show.
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There's no way we could have done that before this episode.
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Of course not.
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And so when I checked in on the second, I found Alex in a very fucked up mood.
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This mood is I mean, it's vintage Alex Jones, but it's pretty fucked up to be to be seeing
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this.
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And we'll get to all that.
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But first, here's an out of context drop from today's show.
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Gavin Newsom, ladies and gentlemen, you better believe is it.
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He is the devil.
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Okay.
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Oh, okay.
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Gavin Newsom is the devil.
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So it is bad in this situation.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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He is it.
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He is the great Satan.
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Gavin Newsom.
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I wouldn't have bet on that.
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I would not have bet on him.
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A little bit of a surprise.
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You know what?
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But that's a good bet.
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Now that I think about it in retrospect, you never would have guessed that it was the devil.
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His reasoning is that he's slick and that sort of thing and an up and comer in the Democratic
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world.
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And he thinks he's going to be the one who they try and unseat Trump with.
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And so that's why he's labeling the devil.
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Gavin Newsom is the one.
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That is a weird pick.
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Strange bet on Alex's part, but we'll see how it plays out.
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We'll handicap.
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I'll give that 15 to one odds.
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So like I said, Alex is in a weird mood.
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He knows that Trump is going to be giving a speech that night.
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And Alex in this first clip, he starts his show very clearly indicating that he knows
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what Trump is going to do.
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Quite a time to be alive, my friends.
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Trump's going to declare a national emergency tonight.
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It's already been declared privately.
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And the globalists are crapping themselves both publicly, but also the looks on their
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faces.
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It's as if they're being let up before a firing squad.
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There's an important breakdown.
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We come back from break.
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I'm going to lay out tomorrow's news today.
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Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen.
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So he is making it very clear that Trump is going to declare a state of emergency.
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He knows it.
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It's been going on behind the scenes already.
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He fucking knows it's going to be made official tonight.
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All the globalists are crapping themselves and Alex is pumped.
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Now, there are some contradictions in Alex's historic rhetoric that are being demonstrated
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here.
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Like what?
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Can you think of one?
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I want us to put a pin in that until we get through this, because I think there's a greater
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conversation we can have about that later that I think we'd be doing a disservice if
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we jump the gun on it.
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But anyone listening, we are not not noticing that.
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It's very obvious that it's weird for Alex Jones to be excited about a president declaring
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a national emergency.
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So you're saying that Alex Jones is super excited about the president of the United
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States declaring a national emergency in order to circumvent the other branches of government,
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taking unilateral action to achieve a goal.
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It seems weird.
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It seems odd.
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It seems like it's counter to a lot of his stated beliefs about the power of the executive
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and what have you.
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A little bit.
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But you should understand that it's coming from a deep place in Alex's heart.
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And I think it's a place where he thinks the end is coming, the end of his personal struggles,
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the end of his turmoil, his battles.
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In many ways, I believe, listening to this episode, that Alex thinks that once Trump
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declares the state of emergency, it's game over for the globalists.
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And finally, Alex Jones will not have to do this anymore.
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Here is a clip that really leads me towards that.
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And the joy is a God-fearing person to feel the Holy Spirit smiling over what you do.
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Closer to God than ever.
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And that makes the global kids so upset.
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Oh, he's going to commit suicide.
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He's close to God.
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He's crazy.
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No, we just think you're weird and crazy.
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Whatever my cells, my genetics, who I am, my ancestral memories.
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Oh, boy.
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Intellectually, what I understand is just little.
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My cells to none.
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You're, hmm, this is what we're supposed to do.
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Good job.
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Hired in a kite.
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Because there's been a total shift in just the last month across the planet.
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He's talking about Bolsonaro.
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And now everything we've talked about and everything we've done is going to now just
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become mainstream.
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Uh-oh.
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So that humanity has a choice of what decision they want to make to be seduced by the globalist
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and by the high-tech gadgetry of the Antichrist or God.
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I didn't know the Antichrist was famous for high-tech gadgetry.
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And then we go into the plunge down the road.
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This is the preparation for that.
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Get some air before you get sucked under.
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But then we're going to pop back up on the other side, and that's the victory.
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Like a gopher.
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And it's all proceeding according to God's plan.
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So this is pretty fucked up.
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It feels a little apocalyptic in many ways.
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It feels very apocalyptic.
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It feels like he's saying we're getting our bearings together for what will be the grand final battle
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between us and the globalists.
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And the people who are on our side are people like Bolsonaro in Brazil.
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It's weird.
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It's a little weird for me, quite frankly.
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To come to this place now, having as much of an understanding of Alex's path through,
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it all makes total sense, but it's also so weird that this is how it's shaken out.
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It's disappointing.
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Yeah, it's really, really bad.
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Especially with Bolsonaro having as much power as he does right now.
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It's really something that everybody should be aware of.
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Right now, Bolsonaro is going to do more damage to the climate than I think any single person could possibly do.
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It'll be a disaster.
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No, I mean, once he declares open season on the Brazilian rainforest being cut down, we're fucked.
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We're never going back.
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It's a very undoable sort of thing.
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That's one of the major concerns, and the human rights questions are deeply important.
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It's wild.
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It's just wild to me, man.
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Final battle's coming, at least.
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Final battle.
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It's the time for the angels and demons, the globalists, and I guess us.
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Or them. Or who.
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What you're failing to recognize when you look at the conception of this final battle that Alex is envisioning is that no matter what happens, Trump wins.
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Really?
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Let me tell you what Trump's up to.
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What if he loses?
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He's already declared a national emergency.
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He's going to officially do it tonight.
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There's a bargaining chip of where, oh, if you just capitulate to what I want and build the wall, it'll be such a sting defeat for the Democrats, Trump won't openly announce the emergency.
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So there's a little bit of nuance in the parlance of the nomenclature and the symbolism, but either way, Trump wins by taking action.
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And the enemy came and sued for peace two years ago when he won and then lied the whole time and said, we'll work with you.
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Just don't destroy us.
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And then he just can't believe why you won't be destroyed.
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You're criminals.
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You'll still have your wealth and you still want to screw the country over because you've got some spiritual hard on to defeat it.
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Trump's not aligned with the devil, folks.
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All right.
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Trump's not aligned with the devil?
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Not aligned with the devil.
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Nope.
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I don't understand exactly what effect declaring a national emergency privately has.
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I declare a national emergency privately between you and me.
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It's already been declared.
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You don't have the power of the executive.
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Yeah, but you have to then use that power in order for, you can't privately declare, like Trump can't privately be like, taxes are free now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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Right, right.
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It's the same bundle as the QAnon secret indictments and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But what Alex is trying to convey is the idea that privately he's been like, we're going to do this in order to try and bring the Democrats to heel or whatever.
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And then when they don't, he's going to tonight on January 8th openly declare the state of emergency, be like, I tried to let you guys just do this on your own.
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That's what Alex is bringing to the table.
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OK.
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And because the Democrats won't go along with him and build that wall, he's going to declare this national emergency in order to build the wall.
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And Alex is fucking pumped about it.
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He loves it.
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Is Alex super pumped about the years long legal challenges that are going to come from this national emergency declaration?
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No, no, I'll tell you what he's pumped about.
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The eminent domain that's going to be involved in terms of the government seizing a bunch of people's property.
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No, private citizens having the government seize their property?
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That's great.
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Alex doesn't have a long history of being against eminent domain.
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Look, this is all this is all whack.
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It's all very whack.
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But what I have to insist is at this point on this episode, so much of this is not about politics at all and what he's bringing to the table.
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There's a deeply religious feel to it, whether it's talking about this sort of Armageddon-esque battle, we're getting air in our lungs to prepare for,
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or this next clip where he just can't like he can't stop quoting country songs in order to demonstrate how right he is with God.
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The mentally ill, narcissistic.
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Fruit loops.
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Are being told to fill their hand politically,
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but they can't stand the fact that they can't scare us and they can't make us run like the old redneck anthem.
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Country boy can survive because they can't starve us out and they can't make us run because these old boys were raised with shotguns.
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We say grace, we say amen.
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And if you ain't into that, we don't give a damn.
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Which is saying we're not hypocrite Pharisees.
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We'll take the Lord's name in vain when we get angry, but we'll die for God.
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Wasn't that hypocritical?
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Because we're not perfect, but we're aligned with God.
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Anyone who breaks my commandments.
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We sure as hell know the devil.
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Shall be put to death.
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I fought with the devil, got down his level, but I never gave in so he gave up on me.
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Another song.
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That's why I know the devil. I know the devil well.
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Save a horse, ride a cowboy.
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Beer for my horses.
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Yeah, I just it's a weird mental state and I'm playing some of these clips that seem like a little bit dumb a little bit to demonstrate this mindset that he's in.
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He's in a very sincere mindset that is tonight.
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It's going down.
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I got to talk about the end of the road.
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I got to talk about how right we are with God.
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And granted, he does touch on those topics quite a bit.
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It's not out of the ordinary, but the amount of it, the extent that he's being very apocalyptic.
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Yeah, very religious, like the first half hour.
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So this show even goes went by and I was like, there is nothing here but preaching like this is almost a televangelist.
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Did he just start?
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Did he start the episode with just like and the seventh seal shall be broken once Trump speaks from the Oval Office?
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it has that feel to it.
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Yeah. And it makes it all the more scary that it also includes him saying shit like this.
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In fact, I'm not scared of the globalist.
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Oh.
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I'm scared of overheating and getting too aggressive and just being as wise as a serpent and peaceful as a dove.
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Until God executes vengeance through us, through us.
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And the time for vengeance is not yet.
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Thank God. What?
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The time of vengeance will come and vengeance is right.
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Vengeance is good.
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Sayeth the Lord against the evil.
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It's mine.
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And they know, already know they're going to fail.
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That's why we're going to claw as many of our children as they can.
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Because children don't know and they're weak.
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There's no one to defend them.
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So these weak demons can just drag our children.
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But, you know, God spares their children's souls.
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That's good.
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Is? I guess?
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I don't like his God.
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I'm going to go to break down.
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When we come back, I'm going to try to get to the news and break down what's about to happen.
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Good luck.
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What is he doing?
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This is fucked up.
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He is weird.
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I mean, on the one hand, I'm super glad that the time for vengeance isn't now.
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That is a relief.
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But it does imply that the time is fast approaching.
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And it comes through him.
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And it will come through us.
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Alex Jones is a righteous vessel of vengeance that the Lord is going to demonstrate against his perceived enemies.
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They're not even real enemies, quite frankly.
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Hillary Clinton mentioned him once in a speech.
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I really wish somebody would get him a Bible with, like, large print so maybe he can read it.
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Because he seems very uninterested in what the Bible says.
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I would love it if there was a Bible that was rewritten to sound like country lyrics.
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Then maybe he might start to get some of the lessons that are contained therein.
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But it does go back to, like, Alex has a very, like, weird version of Christianity that he subscribes to.
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That I don't think it's fair to call mainstream.
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I also don't think it's fair to call it any sort of sect that I'm really even aware of.
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Like, there are touches of Gnosticism in there.
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There's touches of, like, overemphasis of the Old Testament.
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Which isn't bad. It's not wrong to, you know, subscribe to the Old Testament.
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It's just weird if you're a Christian because of the New Testament aspect.
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The entire point of the Christian in your moniker.
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So, it's strange. I don't understand, but it's a bad place.
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So, at this point in the episode, Alex announces that he's going to cover Trump's speech live.
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Which at this point had been sort of unclear.
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And he makes it clear, also, that he knows what's going to happen.
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I made the decision yesterday afternoon.
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Obviously, we're going to cover President Trump's live Oval Office speech at 8 p.m. Central, 9 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Mountain, 6 p.m. Pacific.
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Trump declares national emergency to save America.
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So, there'll be an hour break from the War Room, and then you just go to Infowars.com, forward slash show, or the main page, you'll see live coverage of that.
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And I'm asking all listeners to go to Infowars.com and NewsWars.com.
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I'm going to ask Paul, and I'm going to ask Millie Weaver and others, some band on Twitter, to tweet this image out so you can retweet it.
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So that people know that it's coming up tonight.
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Because we did predict it, we did lay it out, and it's going to happen.
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You thought that was going to be an ad pivot, probably.
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I really did.
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Yeah, the way he's playing with the paper and talking about go to a website and stuff.
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Now, I'm banned on Twitter, so other people got to do this for me.
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And also, it's clear, he's saying it repeatedly.
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We know this is going to happen, we predicted it, all that stuff.
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Yeah, as somebody who lives in tomorrow's news today, you're going to be real disappointed, Alex.
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It's knowing what we know, we know it didn't happen.
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No.
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But it's interesting.
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It is important to focus on this.
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This is Alex's editorial position entirely.
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This is going to happen tonight.
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Yeah.
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We have predicted it.
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Absolutely going to happen tonight.
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Guarantee it.
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And we're going to be there covering it.
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So, he starts yelling about some dumb shit, and then he says this.
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You hate America, it's who you are.
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The 9th Circuit ruled American flags are hate symbols, it can't be in schools.
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That's an old quote.
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San Francisco doesn't like the American flag.
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The enemy doesn't like your flag, it's pretty damn obvious.
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Couldn't be more obvious, it's more obvious with a nose on our faces.
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And we just try to debate him, or, oh, let's not say anything, or the media's enemy operations,
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you better be attacked by these trash or you're not doing your damn job.
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They literally, they don't just lie, they organize the lying.
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They put out the talking points and they regurgitate lie upon lie upon lie.
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Briefly, to find our operation, plus your great products.
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There it is.
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We have three products that in the new year are 50% off.
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Oh my god, what a sale.
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50% off?
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Almost identical to your old sale.
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Oh, is the Christmas sale still going on?
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Yeah, I think under a different name.
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We have the 1,000 days of Christmas sale going on well into the next three years.
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Still just trying to clear out that warehouse of his old products so he can shift entirely to Jeunesse stuff.
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But look, the thing here is that the Ninth Circuit, that's an old lie and it's fun to see that come back up.
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For anyone who hasn't heard the episode or recovered that in depth, the situation was about Cinco de Mayo
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and people, white kids at that school intentionally wearing American flags in order to, it wasn't Cinco de Mayo, was it?
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I don't recall exactly, but it was, the story was white kids were being racist as fuck.
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Right, they were wearing it to antagonize Mexican students.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's evidenced by fights that they antagonized with these students.
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Exactly, instigated.
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And so the court case went that the school has the right to not allow people to wear certain, like any kind of flags on days like that.
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Yeah.
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They have the right to, it doesn't inhibit the students' free speech or whatever other rights they have.
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No, it's exactly like saying you can't wear gang colors.
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Like when you're co-opting the American flag to be a group of people who want to commit violence, that's a gang symbol now.
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To an extent.
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Yeah.
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It's not an outright ban of the American flag or anything like that.
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Of course not.
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Alex is using it as that.
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Yeah.
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So that's the first thing from that clip that's important.
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The second thing is what you hear there is Alex demonizing the Ninth Circuit with a lie, which is him complaining about the judiciary, complaining about the courts and how they're really bad.
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Then he talks about the media and how the media is really bad.
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Yeah.
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Hold on to those thoughts.
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Oh boy.
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They might come back up.
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Okay.
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So at this point, Alex starts complaining about how Mark Dice has been thrown off Facebook.
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We were fighting the apocalypse!
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Yeah, it seems like a petty little move there.
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That just stepped down!
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Way down, way down the ladder of importance, hierarchy of importance.
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The final battle between good and evil, between the angels and the demons, between the globalists and the patriots has come upon us.
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And by the way, why aren't you letting Mark Dice back on Facebook?
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Honestly, I think that what happened is that this falls in one of the, every hour he has like five minutes that don't go out on the radio.
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Remember we talked about this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because of like station identification on like some Tuscaloosa channel or whatever.
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Right, right, right.
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So he has that no man's land where it doesn't matter what he plays.
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It's not going out on the radio.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so I think he buries like John Bounds reports there.
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Good.
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And he plays this report by Mark Dice in one of those no man's lands.
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But it's really important and what's going on here, there's an interesting story behind it.
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And Mark Dice is being a complete jackass and he deserves everything that came to him.
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So Alex is saying that he got thrown off Facebook because of something that was deemed racist.
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Now here's a little taste of Mark Dice's report.
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Facebook blocked me out of my account for seven days and censored this post because I simply stated the fact that the only reason that the story about the seven-year-old girl who was tragically shot and killed in Houston went viral is because the suspect initially was white.
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So every Black Lives Matter activist on social media started tweeting about this terrible white terrorist who killed this poor innocent girl.
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Only it turns out that the murderer was actually a Black man.
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By now they've all forgotten her name and don't even remember that the incident happened.
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Her name is Cyntoia Brown.
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No, Jasmine.
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Oh, that's right.
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That was a different, ah, damn it!
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Two different cases.
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That's Cyntoia was, ah, fuck!
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It's actually Jasmine Barnes.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was talking about the, ah, fuck.
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I'm an idiot.
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So, look, dude, here's the thing.
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First of all, I've not watched much of Mark Dice's reports.
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Yeah.
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Because why would I?
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Why would you?
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And I accidentally watched some of this and it's crazy, man.
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His delivery is insane.
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He looks like a lunatic and he's, like, constantly not twitching but doing, like, weird movements while he's delivering these lines.
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Like, just listening to the audio doesn't really do its service.
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He seems like a lunatic while he's doing this.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know what it is.
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There's some sort of aesthetic style that he's going for.
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Maybe he knows that him just sitting, like, still isn't good for YouTube or something like that.
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No one's going to be entertained by his dumb face.
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Ah, that's fair.
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And so he moves around a lot in, like, a spasmatic way and it's very distracting.
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But anyway, I watched Mark Dice's video and suffice it to say it deserves every label it's getting.
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It is racist.
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It's inflammatory.
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And it's just a pile of shit from a quality standpoint.
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Alex is playing this report saying that he's been kicked off Facebook.
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But in the video, as we just heard, Mark just says that he got suspended for a short time.
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Like, he just got a little time out.
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So what I want to say is that these fucking snowflakes need to stop exaggerating their oppression, number one.
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And here's the real point I want to make.
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Mark's chief complaint seems to be that these Black Lives Matter SJWs were only interested in the story because they thought it was a chance to attack white people.
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But the same is true of Mark Dice.
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He's only interested in the story because it gives him an opportunity to defend white people and attack black people.
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Hmm.
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You understand that?
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I don't... are you saying there's some sort of irony to it?
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His only point is exactly what he's complaining about in these supposed other people.
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Which is weird. It seems like a bad starting point for your editorial position, but whatever.
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Also, an added problem is he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Seven-year-old Jasmine Barnes was killed in a drive-by shooting, and the family initially said the suspect was a white man in a red truck.
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This turned out not to be accurate, as firsthand accounts often are.
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And officials from the sheriff's department have gone on record saying that they believe that there was a red truck at the scene, and this was a case of sincere mistaken identity, and it was nothing suspicious.
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Also, two men were arrested for the killing. Not one, as Mark is suggesting.
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Also, Black Lives Matter activists didn't just blindly blame white people and then forget the story when the narrative didn't fit.
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That's what Infowars does.
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In reality, Shaun King, one of the leading figures of the Black Lives Matter movement, is literally responsible for tipping off the police that the shooters were Larry Woodruff and Eric Black Jr., not a white guy in a red truck.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Because what I'm saying is that a prominent figure in the Black Lives Matter movement went out of his way in order to help police find the actual killers because he cared about the truth, not just scoring points making white people look bad.
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I don't understand.
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It's very interesting.
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No, he stopped caring once they found out.
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If I understand the story correctly, Shaun King received a tip from one of his confidential sources, and because of that tip, he found out that it was two black men, and so he, of course, sat on it and never told anybody.
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Cover up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? That's what he did.
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Now, the case is a little complicated because after a mugshot was released of the original suspect, Shaun King posted a picture of a man who looked almost identically like the mugshot and asked followers for more information on him if they had any.
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This absolutely led to some unmerited attention and probable harassment, definite harassment, being placed upon this man, being directed towards him, but it also literally led to the tip that solved the case.
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As Shaun put it, quote, as strange as it is, I'm not sure we ever would have found the men who killed Jasmine Barnes had the initial conclusion not been so wrong.
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I was brought into the case to track a potential hate crime.
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What I found was something altogether different, but I don't know that anyone would have ever come forward without the outrage.
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I don't quite know what that means or how I feel about it, but the initial outrage, misguided as it was, is what eventually helped us find the killers.
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So, if you're a white supremacist outlet like Infowars, Mark Dice, or The Daily Caller, you can focus on the part where Shaun initially posted a picture of the wrong person and made a mistake in good faith and just ignore the later part where he followed through, righted the wrong, and acknowledged that the initial assumption of the case was inaccurate.
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In all the game these assholes are playing, they simply don't give a fuck about what's true.
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And people didn't forget about the story or that this happened.
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Jasmine's funeral was on Wednesday, and from all reports, it was packed to the rafters.
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Plus, no one who was upset about this when the suspect was white is now okay with it because the suspect is black.
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The people who organized Justice for Jasmine, the rally in Houston, they aren't just calling it off now that there isn't a race angle to it.
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What's going on here and what Alex is putting forth in his defense of Mark is deeply troubling.
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Because later in the video, Mark starts throwing around some statistics about shootings and how it's all black people doing.
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Alex starts doing some more of that too in defense of Mark.
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The statistics version of saying the n-word, essentially.
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Somewhat.
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They're just throwing out statistics with no context that are solely meant to create a fear of black people.
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We've gone over the murder stats and the manipulations people like Alex can do to make them show whatever he wants to fit his worldview, so I think it would be redundant to rehash that now.
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But just a small example of it, in 2017, the FBI's data shows that only 61% of murders were even cleared with an arrest.
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So whenever you talk about these numbers of the people that they do have in custody, you kind of have to also ask yourself the question of,
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is it possible that harsher targeted policing towards African Americans and black people are responsible for them being overrepresented in the arrests when 39% of murders aren't even cleared in a given year?
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So what you're saying...
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I'm just saying there's other issues.
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Is that it's entirely possible that they catch so many black people because they're only looking for black people.
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I'm not saying that that's the case, but it is a piece of the conversation that is necessary to have.
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And there's even more that we don't need to get into.
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Oh, of course.
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When you want to...
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I'm not making that generalization as all of them, but that is absolutely a...
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It plays a factor.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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And when you want to have a conversation about these things, those are important pieces to bring into it as opposed to just being like, blacks kill so many more people and all this stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:54.960)
Like, eh, come on.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:55.960)
So that being said, I have some murder statistics I'd like to share with you that Alex and Mark Dice have no interest in covering.
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As of January 6th of this year, there have been six mass shootings in the United States, leaving seven people dead and 23 injured in less than a week.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:09.960)
That does not feel good.
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Also, according to FBI's own data, I think there's a more meaningful number to look at in terms of comparisons among groups, and that's between men and women in terms of committing these acts of violence.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:21.960)
Because there's a large gap between different races and ethnicities in terms of representation, just in sheer bulk numbers of the population, whereas it's fairly close.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:31.960)
It's not...
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51%, 49%, or whatever it is.
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And the FBI isn't cool enough to have breakdowns in terms of different gender identities.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:40.960)
Of course not.
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And all that stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:42.960)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:43.960)
The numbers that we have are...
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But it's closer than these other barometers in terms of a one-to-one division.
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A representative sample that can be used to make conclusions.
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In 2017, there were 1,932 women who were the victims of homicide.
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Of them, 1,733 were killed by men.
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That's 90%, approximately.
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Conversely, of the 4,862 men who were the victims of homicide, only 515 were killed by women, which is about 10%.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:14.960)
This is a statistically very important piece of information that's very relevant.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:19.960)
Again, this loops back to the six mass shootings already in 2019.
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While most of them are still being investigated and information hasn't been made public, at least one of them is definitively a domestic violence situation where a man killed his wife and 12-year-old child, then himself.
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Which is unfortunately a tragic pattern that we see play out over and over again.
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And that, in turn, loops back to Larry Woodruff, the man arrested for shooting Jasmine Barnes, who had prior arrests for assaulting a family member and pled guilty in 2017 to trying to choke a woman he was dating.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:50.960)
The more pressing conversation to have about murders in this country are that they're about errant masculinity and access to guns.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:57.960)
The rest of it is irrelevant shadow puppetry people like Mark Dice and Alex Jones use to justify their deep-seated racism.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:04.960)
Slam the book shut.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:06.960)
I am so grateful.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:08.960)
Because we've had that conversation in the past where they're pulling out some race bullshit, and so what winds up happening is we're like,
Unknown Speaker (00:35:16.960)
okay, well fine, if you want to play the race bullshit game, great, here's all the buzz that goes against your butt, but this isn't that. That's not what this is.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:27.960)
You have absolutely fucking nailed it, and it has nothing to do with their bullshit. It's fucking dudes.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:34.960)
Well, yeah, it's a certain subset of dudes, but if you look at it just from a statistical point of view, you have to wrestle with the fact that almost all murders of women are done by men,
Unknown Speaker (00:35:48.960)
and a very slim number of murders of men are done by women.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:52.960)
So what we need to do is convince women to start killing more men.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:56.960)
Or we need to go like that Bennett girl and get women to carry AK-47s everywhere.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:02.960)
Hey, you know what? If only women get guns, I think that would be okay for a while.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:06.960)
I don't know. It's stupid. My whole point about this is that they're having the wrong conversation intentionally,
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and it's on a very surface level funny to point out that Mark Dice is complaining about these supposed people,
Unknown Speaker (00:36:18.960)
only caring about this because they can demonize white people while he's trying to demonize black people.
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But then when you get behind it a little bit, you see that every piece of it is hypocritical.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:27.960)
Every single piece of it is just fucking stupid. They're not reporting the facts.
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They're basing wild assertions and misrepresenting statistics.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:36.960)
And that's the game that Infowars plays because they are a white supremacist outlet.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:40.960)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:41.960)
And that is what they're trying to reinforce.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:43.960)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:44.960)
Now, we're done with Mark Dice. May he rest in peace.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:48.960)
Oh, also got an update. David Knight had heart surgery.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:51.960)
Still dead?
Unknown Speaker (00:36:52.960)
Nope. Had heart surgery and he's getting much better.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:54.960)
Oh, good for him.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:55.960)
Glad to hear it.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:56.960)
Yeah, I guess.
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But he has a mandatory suspension from Alex.
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He won't let him come back to work for a month because he doesn't want him being overstressed or something like that.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:06.960)
You know what? That's actually the best...
Unknown Speaker (00:37:08.960)
Yeah, I know.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:09.960)
That's the best HR movie...
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That's his dad.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:11.960)
You know what? We've got to give it up to his dad.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:12.960)
We've got to give it up to his dad on that one.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:13.960)
Don't give Alex too much credit there.
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But it is cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:16.960)
Like, it is like at least...
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Of all the things, you know, we want to talk shit on him about the idea of him being like,
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you can't come back to work. You heal.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty great.
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That's a solid move.
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We appreciate that as a way to treat your workers.
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We stand with labor even if that labor is fucking racist as shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:34.960)
And boring.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:35.960)
Exactly.
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So speaking of boring, seemingly fairly not cool with race people, Alex then brings in Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:46.960)
He is a real dick and it seems to me, if I had to guess, most of Alex Jones' let's be really interested in Trump declaring a national emergency thing,
Unknown Speaker (00:37:59.960)
I think a lot of it relies on articles that Mike Adams has written.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:03.960)
I think he's done the legwork on a lot of this and Alex is just thrilled that he doesn't have to do too much work
Unknown Speaker (00:38:08.960)
and he can push Mike Adams' ideas to the forefront.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:12.960)
And I'm taking that mostly from this appearance where Mike Adams says some profoundly dumb shit
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and is not only in favor of a national emergency being called, he outright is calling for an authoritarian coup.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:28.960)
Okay. I am going to go, I'm really going to take a hard, this is a hot take.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:36.960)
I think that's a bad idea and we should not do that.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:40.960)
I'm with you on that.
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I have reasons for it, but I really don't feel like I should need to give any reasons for that.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:47.960)
I'm with you on that, but what you should know.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:49.960)
What should I know?
Unknown Speaker (00:38:50.960)
Is that Mike Adams isn't just coming to this half cocked.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:53.960)
He's not coming in here and just saying Trump is great, therefore he should be our dictator.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:59.960)
Oh, does he have a really good reason for it?
Unknown Speaker (00:39:02.960)
It turns out he doesn't, but he tries to make a justification and rationalization in this next clip.
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President Trump, he has to use every power of the executive in order to defeat the deep state or we lose America.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:17.960)
You know, those people who said, well, he shouldn't invoke a national emergency.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:20.960)
He shouldn't declare martial law, all these criticisms.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:24.960)
I'm not saying he should declare martial law, but he should use the powers of the national emergency
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to defend America against those who are attempting to destroy it.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:32.960)
They've taken us into lawless martial law and rebellion.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:36.960)
Now we're here. Let's stop denying it.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:38.960)
So this is going to be sort of the way that they get around the complaints that we were making at the beginning of the episode as being hypocritical.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:46.960)
They're going to now introduce the idea we are already in martial law.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:50.960)
We are already in this state.
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Therefore, Trump needs to declare this national emergency, start kicking people's asses in order to undo all of the stuff that's been done already.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:00.960)
Right, right, right. So if I understand correctly...
Unknown Speaker (00:40:02.960)
Which is great. It's a good line.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:04.960)
Their argument is, we've already been in martial law, baby, so he better declare martial law.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:10.960)
Now, they're sort of reluctant to point out where martial law started or explain why they haven't been saying that every day since it started.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:20.960)
That would be really important to them. If they knew that martial law had been going on already for a long time, they should have talked about it a lot by now.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:26.960)
Instead, they just sort of have been in that state where it's like, they're gonna do it.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:30.960)
Yeah.
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So it's weird now to retcon all that and be like, well, no, it's actually always been going on.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:36.960)
But here's the thing. Mike tries, Mike Adams tries to pinpoint the beginning of this.
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And it's not good. It is not a good argument.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:47.960)
Iraq?
Unknown Speaker (00:40:48.960)
Also, this clip starts out really fucking funny.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:52.960)
Mike Adams does his research. Obama did the most draconian executive order ever that under the Defense Authorization Act, he funded that executive order with billions to take down Trump and Infowars and Tucker Carlson and everybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:04.960)
And it's hiding in plain view the executive order that Trump must declare his new emergency to override it. Explain to people.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:12.960)
Crucially, Alex, let me repeat it again. It's March 16th, 2012. I've linked to it in the article that I just posted a few minutes ago.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:19.960)
It's called the National Defense Resources Preparedness Order. It's on White House dot gov. You can read it.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:25.960)
And importantly, Alex, in that order, in the opening paragraph, Barack Obama invokes himself as the commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States of America,
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indicating that he had planned to use military force to seize control over all resources in the country.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:44.960)
It's already on the books. It's there.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:46.960)
I thought he just was.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:48.960)
A month later, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs went to the White House and said, we're going to remove you if you don't back off of this and backing Al-Qaeda.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:54.960)
Mike Adams has done his research. This is, you're getting the absolute truth right now, folks.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:59.960)
Absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:00.960)
So Obama wrote down his literal title. So you know he's going to.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:08.960)
That's interesting, and we'll get to that here in a second. But first things first, Mike Adams doesn't do his research.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:13.960)
He spends most of his time doing things like lying about science on naturalnews.com and setting up hogwatch.com to harass David Hogg and the other survivors of the Parkland shooting.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:23.960)
Mike Adams is a know-nothing piece of shit of the highest order, and I can't say that strongly enough. This guy is the worst.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:30.960)
Now, as for that executive order, it's number 13603.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:34.960)
We can dispense with the idea that Obama released it in order to declare martial law by declaring an emergency or whatever the fuck they're trying to sell, because it's nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:42.960)
All we need to do to understand what this executive order is about is to realize that it was just an updating of Bill Clinton's Executive Order 12919 from 1994.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:54.960)
And even that was really just a refinement of the Defense Production Act of 1950, which Harry Truman pushed in order to help assure that the United States had access to necessary materials for defense, like aluminum and steel, as the Korean War was getting started.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:08.960)
And even that was really just an extension of Executive Order 8248, signed in 1939 by FDR. This is all just stuff that is fine-tuned and refined over the years.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:19.960)
So we've been in martial law since the 30s?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:22.960)
That's the wrong way to look at it.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:24.960)
That is exactly what you just said right there, Dan.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:27.960)
That is exactly what you just said right there. The fuckin' executive branch is now seizing the means of production.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:34.960)
Jordan does his research.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:36.960)
That's what I would say to that.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:38.960)
Acts of government are almost always either building upon something that a predecessor did or tearing down something that a predecessor did.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:46.960)
Like the American government.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:48.960)
Sure. There are very few things that are just outright introductions of wild new ideas.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:53.960)
This is all Obama's executive order was. It was a necessary update of Bill Clinton's executive order, and it's really easy to understand why the old executive order needed an update.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:03.960)
The Department of Homeland Security did not exist in 1994, and FEMA existed as an independent agency at the time.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:10.960)
Due to reorganizations, some of the language needed to be fixed in order to reflect the changes in government bureaucracy.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:16.960)
That's almost all of the changes that were made by Obama's executive order.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:20.960)
It was just clarifying these things that were very different than they were.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:24.960)
What would it have been? 20 years? No, 18 years earlier?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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22 years earlier.
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So, of course, to...
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18 years earlier.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:33.960)
Yeah, then 2012.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:34.960)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:35.960)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:36.960)
So, in response to that...
Unknown Speaker (00:44:37.960)
20 years earlier, nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:38.960)
In response to that, in response to the updating of language to include these organizations that were previously not included, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of course, went to Obama and said, we will overthrow you unless you do this.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:55.960)
And then he just didn't, and they didn't.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:58.960)
Yeah, that's all nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:59.960)
It's all nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:00.960)
That's patriot lore.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:01.960)
Gotcha.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:02.960)
Mike's dumb bullshit about Obama evoking that he's the Commander-in-Chief, it's proof that he's going to bring the military into this, is complete nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:09.960)
First of all, the order actually begins by saying, quote, by the authority vested in me as the President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Defense Production Act of 1950, and as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, it's hereby ordered as follows.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:26.960)
So, Mike clearly read the paragraph to see the Commander-in-Chief part, but how did he miss the Constitution and the laws part?
Unknown Speaker (00:45:32.960)
How did he miss the part where he explains that this is in relation to the Defense Production Act of 1950?
Unknown Speaker (00:45:36.960)
Is he really skimming that poorly, or is he...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:39.960)
Oh, no, no, it's because Obama's black.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:41.960)
It's obvious that this is intentional.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:43.960)
Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:44.960)
Like, he's intentionally misleading people.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:46.960)
If they understood, oh, well, this is just really an extension of the...
Unknown Speaker (00:45:50.960)
Oh, let's go read the Defense Production Act of 1950 so we can understand where all this comes from.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:55.960)
Boring! Obama's black! I had him!
Unknown Speaker (00:45:58.960)
So, in reality, this executive order and its predecessors serve an important role in making sure that the various departments within the government are conscious of what may be required in an emergency and are empowered by the act and these executive orders to enter contracts to make sure that the country has access to those materials that are needed.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:17.960)
Beyond that, because of the sum of the language in the bill that's about spending, it's been used consistently since the 1980s to fund research into emerging technologies and independent research that has led to some very important breakthroughs.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:30.960)
Oh, and just because Alex and Mike are complete fucking idiots, it should be pointed out that on June 13th, 2017, Trump already evoked the Defense Production Act in order to shift funding towards strengthening the, quote, space industrial base, a year before announcing Space Force.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:46.960)
Is that because he declared martial law in the 30s and then Trump, finally seizing upon martial law, decided that we needed a Space Force? I really don't understand. What is the fuck that they're doing?
Unknown Speaker (00:46:59.960)
All of the stuff that they're talking about, like Trump has already used this act that is the foundational underpinning of this executive order that really just changes a couple pieces of language because the goddamn Homeland Security Department didn't exist in 1994.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:13.960)
Motherfuckers.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:14.960)
Even Trump knows more about this than these two fucking clowns. It's nonsense. So that is the executive order that they're talking about as being evidence of Obama setting all this up and putting us into a state of emergency and martial law that Trump needs to declare his emergency in order to undo.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:33.960)
I don't know what good that would do, but it sounds good to patriots.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:38.960)
This national emergency, I hereby declare in order to stop the declaration of a national emergency. And if nobody's going to do it, I'm going to do it my fucking self.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:50.960)
Because as everybody knows, when an executive uses a truly insane amount of power, he often does so in order to give the power back to the people.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:02.960)
And historically, that's always been the case, right? We've seen a lot of it. Oh, so many times. So much the executive like with with so many kings.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:11.960)
I remember them like dissolving parliaments. You remember when they dissolve parliament? It's almost always like voluntary. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:18.960)
I can't think of a single instance of someone sort of trying to create that appearance of that being what they're going to do and then going bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:27.960)
Hmm. I think I can come up with a few examples of that. That's what populism is. I think I just defined popular.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:36.960)
So, look, it's a lot of bullshit. But this is what Alex believes and what he's putting forth and bring it to the table.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:42.960)
And so then they talk a little bit more about this. And you should make a real good note of this.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:48.960)
They don't have more to talk about. They really don't. They insinuate that they do.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:53.960)
But they were specific about that executive order. Now watch how vaguely they talk about everything else.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:58.960)
Ladies and gentlemen, Obama signed a group of executive orders in 2012, 2013, 14, 15, 16. Which ones?
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Setting up one to a national emergency and having the Pentagon over America.
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Globalist in control of the Pentagon and 17 intelligence agencies.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:17.960)
Those actions are still in place and operating and only under law action.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:23.960)
One, another executive order, a national emergency, a race. How that's why you see the action one belligerence.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:30.960)
And Mike Adams, who's been on top of this and myself calling for this all to be exposed is here with us.
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Executive Order, National Defense Resources Preparedness, March 16th, 2012.
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Here's the statement. Obama put the United States under martial law in 2012.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:48.960)
That statement is written by Mike Adams. That's not a statement that should carry any other weight than this is the guy I'm talking to.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:56.960)
He implies that it's some sort of a actual statement from a think tank or some sort of like researcher.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:02.960)
It's Mike fucking Adams. He ran hogwatch.com.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:06.960)
Mike Adams is a researcher, I know, because Alex Jones said that he's a researcher, which is why Alex Jones cites him as a researcher.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:16.960)
A little circular, but I get you.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:18.960)
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:20.960)
It's a bummer. It's just madness because in that clip that we just played, you can even hear Alex expressing a mentality that you really don't like to hear.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:30.960)
That seems to imply in order to fight back against a dictatorship, we must create a dictator.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:37.960)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:38.960)
That's the best he's got right now. And that to me is thin.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:43.960)
Everybody knows that in order to fight against a dictatorship, one that of course is imaginary, you need to create a real dictatorship.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:51.960)
Because that way you can defeat the imaginary one and we know which dictatorship is better, the real one.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:57.960)
Remember how great dictatorships are as compared to fake dictatorships?
Unknown Speaker (00:51:01.960)
Real dictatorships are really awesome if they're doing the horrible things you want done.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:05.960)
It seems like a lot of people like that though, so there is that.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:08.960)
So in this next clip, Mike explains that we were put under this martial law in 2012, but it was done for a specific reason.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:16.960)
They didn't think that history was going to go the way it does.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:20.960)
And then pay close attention to what Mike is describing as what he wants to happen, because I can't tell you how fucked up it is to hear an adult say this.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:32.960)
All of these powers that Obama invoked and laid out in executive orders were intended to be handed to President Hillary Clinton.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:39.960)
This was the plan. And Hillary Clinton, let's recall, had a plan in place and a list of people to arrest, which includes you and myself as well.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:49.960)
You weren't on that list. You'd never be on anyone's list, Mike.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:53.960)
And nobody fucking did that and the only person who even insinuated that he wanted to jail his fucking political opponents was the fucking guy you support.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:01.960)
What is wrong with you?
Unknown Speaker (00:52:03.960)
And 90%, I would say higher than that, of this country have no fucking idea who Mike Adams is.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:09.960)
Oh no, I would say 99.99.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:11.960)
These snowflakes really need to stop exaggerating their oppression.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:15.960)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:16.960)
We were all supposed to be arrested and shut down. When Trump won the presidency, it threw that entire plan into total chaos, but also it inadvertently handed these powers to President Trump, who has been reluctant to use these powers that Obama had intended for Hillary Clinton to use.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:33.960)
So understand, the deep state under Obama accidentally gave President Trump the power to destroy the deep state.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:41.960)
This is why they are so terrified. This is what it's all about.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:45.960)
Trump only needs to invoke these powers that are already on the books. He can root out the deep state. He can arrest and indict the traitors who are operating inside government, inside universities that have become terrorist recruitment centers.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:59.960)
The traitors, the mayors, the governors who are running these illegal sanctuary cities. They need to be investigated.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:06.960)
Trump has the power to do this, and he must invoke this power in order to defeat the deep state and then restore true liberty and national security to our country.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:15.960)
That's what we are demanding, and I think that's the path that Trump is following now.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:19.960)
That is a perfect description of...
Unknown Speaker (00:53:23.960)
A pogrom?
Unknown Speaker (00:53:25.960)
I mean, it's so insane that people would, especially people who have made a cottage industry out of being like the paranoid guys, be like what we need is a strong executive evoking emergency powers in order to root out ideas we don't like in universities, traitors in the military.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:48.960)
It's just this, he's describing authoritarianism. He's describing a creation of a fascist state.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:56.960)
So that was a great idea, though, when Chairman Mao did it. It was an awesome idea when, what's this fuck from Turkey, Erdogan did it.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:06.960)
That was awesome.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:07.960)
We're going to get to that.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:08.960)
No, that was great. How many other times has this happened, and it's always worked out really well for everybody involved, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:54:14.960)
Oh, you know who else did a great job of doing it? That Stalin cat.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:22.960)
Look, your point's made.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:24.960)
Is it made?
Unknown Speaker (00:54:25.960)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:26.960)
Would you like me to give 300 more fucking examples to Mike fucking the child idiot Adams?
Unknown Speaker (00:54:31.960)
It's nuts to hear something like that.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:33.960)
That's weird.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:34.960)
Especially after all this apocalyptic nonsense from Alex earlier and saying the time for vengeance is coming, these things being juxtaposed and being put forth on this show are really fucking scary.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:47.960)
Because it's not, this isn't kid stuff. This is an adult who has a platform legitimately being, they're openly encouraging an authoritarian coup at this point.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:00.960)
And they're expressing that they are going to be wildly disappointed if that doesn't happen. They're demanding it. And that is not a good sign.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:09.960)
Up to this point, all I've heard is it's okay if we get the go-ahead to kill all of our political enemies.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:17.960)
And we'll know that because Trump will be speaking, God will be speaking through him when he tells us to.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:22.960)
Of course, which makes it okay according to the Bible.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:25.960)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:26.960)
So that is the start. And then the finish is we're going to do this in order to set up an authoritarian fascist rule.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:36.960)
But that'll go away and we'll have a utopia afterwards after we get all the browns out.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:40.960)
I really don't think that's how it works.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:42.960)
It's not, but it's not, they're not even being that explicit, but that's what's behind this.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:46.960)
Oh, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:47.960)
And it's all a crisis that they're manufacturing about this idea of illegal immigrants coming in. Like this is all, that's what's behind all of this. That's what's making them justify this stuff, which is another really important piece.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:59.960)
But before we get into that, we need to really take a look into the abyss and see how bad these ideas Mike Adams is espousing on the show really are.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:09.960)
Because in this next clip, he says something that's insanely bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:14.960)
It's the appropriate role of the military. It's a constitutional role for the military to defend the borders.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:19.960)
And also, by the way, Alex, you know, posse comitatus, it prevents the military from acting as police on the streets of America,
Unknown Speaker (00:56:27.960)
but it does not prevent military police from pursuing enemy combatants and domestic enemies of America who are on American soil.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:36.960)
Military police can be dispatched to arrest and seek out treasonous traitors, you know, war criminals, enemy combatants who are on U.S. soil.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:45.960)
There is no restriction against that. Let's just keep all of this in mind because America is under attack.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:51.960)
So it's under attack, man. Military police operating on U.S. soil and domestic law enforcement would 100% be against the posse comitatus act.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:59.960)
No two ways about that. Unless there's a Coast Guard and it was a maritime crime. There's a small loophole for that.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:04.960)
What Mike is advocating for is literally how dictators shore up power. We've seen it 100 times.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:09.960)
Simple example that you brought up earlier, after his staged coup in January 2016, Turkish President Erdogan called in the military police to round up his perceived enemies.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:18.960)
Within nine months, 110,000 people had been detained and approximately 50,000 of them were arrested.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:24.960)
Well, that totally wasn't a fake coup, Dan. That totally wasn't a fake manufactured coup that he created.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:29.960)
That was a real coup. And of course, it just so happened that hundreds of thousands of people who were his political enemies got caught up.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:35.960)
Of that 110,000 people, 7,463 of them were members of the military. Over 10,000 were police officers.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:42.960)
2,575 were prosecutors or judges who Erdogan disagreed with, some even reportedly members of the Supreme Court.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:49.960)
2,708 were journalists. 179 media outlets were shut down between the staged coup and the end of 2016.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:58.960)
The reason this is important is that these people who were the targets of Erdogan's crackdown are precisely the people Alex and Mike are saying Trump needs to go after.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:07.960)
The entrenched globalists in the military and police forces, the globalist judges on the Ninth Circuit who won't let you have a flag, all the mainstream media figures who are enemies of the American people.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:17.960)
In a very real sense, I mean this with no exaggeration, irony or humor, Alex Jones and his cohorts have now embraced calling for an outright authoritarian coup under the stewardship of their hero, Donald Trump.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:29.960)
This is a very different and much more severe situation than we saw even a few weeks ago and the massive escalation of this does not make me feel great about what's to come.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:38.960)
That being said, I don't think that this necessarily translates to the real world. I think that there's a very small section of Alex Jones' audience that will be severely negatively affected by this.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:52.960)
Just because Alex is advocating for this and Mike Adams is advocating for this, it doesn't mean that Trump is going to do that.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:58.960)
I don't want anyone to get that idea in their head but because we're a show that follows Alex Jones and we track this sort of thing,
Unknown Speaker (00:59:06.960)
we know that this has been something that he's into for a bit but the way they're overtly talking about it is a very marked change.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:16.960)
It is very scary to me, the idea that they feel comfortable enough because they believe that tonight Trump is going to declare this national emergency that they can wear it openly.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:28.960)
That they can say it is a good idea for the military police to round up potential political enemies and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:36.960)
That is really fucking scary because that means that if shit ever goes that way, they're going to be the first people cheerleading and trying to rationalize.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:46.960)
They're going to be the people who are on the radio in Rwanda. That's who they're going to be. It's going to be a disaster.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:55.960)
They're exactly saying right now, oh my god, now that we know Trump's going to do it, I'm so glad it's finally okay for us to say that we need to have a racial cleansing.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:10.960)
That includes taking the race traitors out too. Look, hey, if you're a white person but you support those races that we don't like, guess what, you're a race traitor, you're one of them.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:19.960)
Cleansing away, baby!
Unknown Speaker (01:00:21.960)
I mean, it is a gentleman speak freely kind of moment where the mask drops a little bit and you see, oh, this is what you've been meaning for a long time.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:33.960)
It's just I legitimately can't imagine a scenario where even if someone had left politics that I agreed with, they were advocating for military police, rounding up conservatives or even the alt-right, even Nazis necessarily.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:52.960)
Depends on what those Nazis did. But you know what I'm saying? Even if I heard that, there's no way that I would be triumphantly cheering for it.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:01.960)
If it's the state doing it. I can't imagine getting to this place and what you realize when you see moments like this is they don't need to get to that place. That's their place.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:13.960)
There are so many times with so many of the rules and the norms that existed within Congress prior to Mitch McConnell's dumb fuck face existing. God, I want a time machine. But so many of these rules are in place because everybody kind of implicitly got that if we change these rules, for us, there will be a pendulum swing back.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:41.960)
And those rule changes that we change to benefit us can then be used to our detriment.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:48.960)
It's a pick your spots kind of thing in democracy and republics.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:51.960)
Exactly. That's kind of the game. And with these guys, there is something that is now explicit, which is that when you talk about one side or the other, only one side is literally using these rule changes in bad faith.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:10.960)
To harm people. It does seem that way. And so so they kind of don't care about the pendulum swing because why would they?
Unknown Speaker (01:02:19.960)
They know that if the pendulum swings backward, they're not going to do to us what we want to do to them.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:25.960)
Well, they also kind of understand if, you know, you swing a pendulum hard enough, it just gets lodged in the wall or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:33.960)
So there is that kind of idea. Even if you use that pendulum metaphor, you can break a pendulum. Yeah, well, fair enough.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:40.960)
So you go too hard one direction. You end up with a broken political system that doesn't fix itself. It doesn't swing back the other way.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:49.960)
You end up in tyranny, the exact same thing that Alex has been warning about and screaming about, making millions of dollars, talking about for years.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:57.960)
I think that what we're seeing here is essentially the same thing that is the dichotomy between John Waterman,
Unknown Speaker (01:03:04.960)
the Wednesday guy on Carrie Cassidy's show and on his own blog on Carrie Cassidy's show.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:11.960)
That's Alex a year ago. Yeah. Not bringing up that he hates the Jews. Just being like certain groups, certain groups, certain groups.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:20.960)
And now when he has on his own blog, he talks about how it's the Jews and all of them are fucking awful and they're trying to exterminate white people in Germany.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:28.960)
Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I'm not saying that Alex is an anti-Semite directly in that metaphor.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:34.960)
But what I'm saying is a year ago, there was this couchedness to it. There was this there was more of like it wasn't this overt.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:42.960)
Yeah. This overt thing right now is directly calling for what brings tyranny. Yeah. And he has every reason to know that.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:50.960)
And he doesn't give a fuck. Nope. Because he never gave a fuck. It's it's I mean, the mask was caring.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:56.960)
Yeah. The mask was caring about the consequences. And it has fallen. He does not care about any of this stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:03.960)
And we could talk about how, like, you know, earlier in the year, we had like him saying that Rex 84 is cool now.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:12.960)
It's totally fine. Now the Trump gets to do it. Come on. Posse Comitatus doesn't matter. Send the military to the border.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:17.960)
All this stuff. We could talk about all that stuff. But most people look at that and they want to clown on Alex for being a hypocrite.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:25.960)
Right. And I'm not interested in that necessarily. And I don't think we have been super interested in that, although maybe pointed out from time to time.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:32.960)
It's a lesser issue. I think that people miss the point. And what it is, is those were always performative aspects of what he was doing.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:41.960)
And what he was doing and is still doing is defending whiteness, defending the status quo of a white centric chauvinist cis-normative world.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:56.960)
Yeah. Those are the institution and weirdly Christian. Yeah. Whatever. Vaguely religious so long as it justifies whatever racist bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:07.960)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what he's always done with all of these narratives is prop up and apologize for white terrorism, all that sort of stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:17.960)
And now he's abandoned the pretense, the mask of caring about tyranny because the guy who's going to bring in the tyranny that he wants is in favor of all of those things.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:27.960)
Yeah. He's a fucking chauvinist. He's a racist. He doesn't like trans people. And he's a rapist. He hates gays. Who knows if he hates gays, but he doesn't want them to have rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:36.960)
Doesn't want them in the military or whatever the fuck it is. And especially the people he surrounds himself don't. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:41.960)
Who cares about litigating his personal beliefs. Yeah. It's about the effect that would be had. And so he knows that. He knows. It's a small revelation that we've already made repeatedly.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:53.960)
That is, he is comfortable now because his guy is going to protect the groups he wants protected. But it's just crazy to see that it is not just about these little things. It's about everything.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:05.960)
His whole career is based on a lie. We talked about it on a previous episode where we were discussing that kind of hypocrisy angle. And it really isn't hypocrisy because what it always has been is I'm afraid they're going to do what we do to them.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:23.960)
And what we are going to do, we hope to do. I'm afraid they're going to do that to us. That's why I'm afraid of tyranny. Not because tyranny is bad, but because we're going to get our literal comeuppance.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:34.960)
The right kind of tyranny is good and the wrong kind is bad. Exactly. It's a trite thing, but I think it's worth it that we spent this little period here having that discussion because I think it's one way that people who aren't as in touch with and understand what Alex does misunderstand him.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:57.960)
And they make the wrong attack on him in many ways. This idea of, oh, look at this, you're a hypocrite because now you believe this when you said that. It's a much more salient attack and a much more salient way to look at things to say, oh, what this does is it reveals that you never cared about that, but what you did care about and what was motivating your rhetoric then is the same thing that's motivating it now.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:19.960)
I think it's a more holistic, more reasonable way to look at things. And I think, I don't know, I don't know if it helps anything, but it's reality.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:30.960)
And it's so important over and over and over again to make this point is that Alex is the weakest link in this right wing propaganda chain. So many people in this right wing propaganda world, so many people in fucking Congress pretty much support.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:46.960)
Milo was a weaker link. His emails got accessed and found out his Nazi-ness pretty easily.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:54.960)
Right. But in terms of saying the quiet part loud, so many people in the right wing propaganda, so many people on Fox News would say, not in the same words, but in a far better couched language, essentially the same thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:10.960)
Like Tucker Carlson wouldn't let Mike Adams come on and say the military police has a constitutional role to hunt down Trump's potential enemies, stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:19.960)
It is directly antithetical to so many of the very ideas of freedom. And it's the sort of thing that has always led down the path towards centralized control, oppression, and all that shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:33.960)
Yeah. And Tucker Carlson wouldn't have Mike Adams on to say that. You wouldn't have him on, period. Period. Of course not. But if Trump did do that, Tucker Carlson would defend it. Probably.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:45.960)
And say things like, well, constitutionally, they're not allowed to do this, but they are allowed to do this.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:52.960)
He would do something weak, but I don't think it would be as weak as this Obama's executive order put us under martial law. So Trump is just getting them back. Yeah, that's too late. That's weak.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:03.960)
Especially when you can go read that executive order. You can understand the language in it. You can understand the history of it. Like all that stuff is so easy to track down.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:11.960)
It's not even Alex's normal stuff where it's like, you got to go read John P. Holdren's entire eco science textbook. It's so easy. Yeah. Anyway, look, we've gone down a little bit of a road. I think it's important and I'm not mad about that.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:24.960)
But the important thing to remember is that Alex is certain that he knows what's happening tonight on June, January 8th.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:32.960)
Still writing June on my checks.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:46.960)
Mike, thank you. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:47.960)
So you keep hearing this. Oh, he's going to do it. We know. We know he's going to do it. It's constant throughout the episode.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:54.960)
So earlier you were sort of bucking at Mike Adams talking about like, who is the America you're talking about? Yeah. This next clip.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:02.960)
Why? You know, he just kind of makes it a little more meh.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:06.960)
We reach real America and real America supports Trump, supports a declaration of a national emergency, if that's what it takes, whatever it takes to build this.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:14.960)
That's what the new president of Brazil just did. Of course, he's got to declare an emergency to remove these people.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:19.960)
Exactly. And I think Trump has declared a war on the globalist. Oh, the media is the enemy. They're trying to get him killed.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:26.960)
They're trying to kill us. I mean, it's the truth. These people are waging war on us. We didn't start it.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:31.960)
That's the thing. I mean, they're so scared. We're going to fight back.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:35.960)
We are in a war. It's time to declare it. It's time to rise up and identify the enemies within who are waging this war to disassemble and obliterate America.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:45.960)
And this war on America has been going on since 2008. And let's be a trillion percent clear.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:50.960)
They started it. They won't back down. They're fair game. Period. They grew first blood. Period. Period. Period. Period. Period.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:59.960)
So there is nothing in there that makes me feel better about Alex saying the time for vengeance isn't now,
Unknown Speaker (01:11:05.960)
because in this clip, a mere hour after that, he's saying the globalists have drawn first blood.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:10.960)
They're fair game, which I think you could interpret as him being like, let's get now it's time.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:15.960)
It does kind of feel that way. It's really fucked up. And then Mike Adams, Alex talked over him a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:20.960)
He's like, this country has been in crisis since 2008. Why is that? I thought the I thought the executive order was 2012.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:26.960)
You dumb fuck. Is it just because of Obama? Yeah, he was black, Dan.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:30.960)
I don't know if you notice. Did you notice that it might be a subtle piece of that could be part of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:35.960)
Subtle. Also, if you want to pull this bullshit of like, oh, we're in a war now and they've drawn first blood because they're oppressing us.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:43.960)
Dude, your time frame, I don't know. I don't know what you want to I don't know what you want to call it, if not side.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:51.960)
Let's call it white Christian male colonialists, white identity people.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:56.960)
They have been fighting a war in this country since it started.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:01.960)
And it is it is it was more about women having property.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:05.960)
It's been against women. It's been against people of color. It's been against every possible minority that isn't white.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:12.960)
It's been against fucking Catholics, for God's sakes. You guys have always been fighting this war.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:18.960)
And the only fight back that anybody has ever had is been like, guess what?
Unknown Speaker (01:12:24.960)
We're making your lives better, too, you dumb fucks.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:28.960)
There's been a shifting of alliances and there's been people who have not been on like it's not like a consistent one group throughout the entire time.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:36.960)
But you're right. I mean, it's not a party. I'm not saying it's a white identity.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:41.960)
There's been like more or less a history of exclusion and inclusion.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:47.960)
It's kind of been that struggle throughout the entire time because you can kind of boil stuff down.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:53.960)
I know that sounds like it's minimizing like real serious like chattel slavery and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:59.960)
But to an extent, that was driven by exclusion. Like there's always been that.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:03.960)
And that heading allows you to include Catholics and the Irish and stuff like that, because that was also an attempt to exclude from the group that's allowed to have access to power.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:13.960)
Exactly. That sort of thing. Power, access, influence, money, capital, all that sort of stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:19.960)
And it even allows you to talk about like workers and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:23.960)
So inclusion versus exclusion has always been sort of the defining lines of what this ism is.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:30.960)
And Alex is squarely on the side of exclusion.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:33.960)
And I don't know, I don't understand how anybody looking at the path through history can honestly think that that's a good gamble.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:41.960)
Like, I don't understand why people think that would work out well. It always is wrong.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:46.960)
Exclusion is always wrong, even though it sometimes feels right.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:50.960)
I mean, we go back to that Ebola episode that we did. Yeah. Feels right to quarantine something, but it's always going to be the wrong thing to do.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:57.960)
It's just a sort of knee jerk reaction that if you've ever studied, anything you should know is it's the wrong thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:05.960)
It'll be looked poorly upon. And Alex, I mean, we're fucking apes that have destroyed the one place that allowed us to exist.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:15.960)
So of course, we're going to continue to destroy it because we have these fucking apes continuing to do it.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:20.960)
Yeah, they're not good apes. Nope.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:22.960)
But Alex, like I said, is certain that Trump is going to declare an emergency.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:26.960)
Of course.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:27.960)
Mike Adams, God bless you. Great job joining us tonight.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:29.960)
Seven o'clock Central 8 p.m. Eastern for the coverage of Trump declaring a national emergency.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:36.960)
I don't know how all this is going to end, but the globalists want to fight.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:39.960)
They better believe they've got one. Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:45.960)
Oh, man. He's he's so excited, though.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:48.960)
Yeah, I'm so excited because he thinks he's on the verge of this authoritarian regime.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:54.960)
He's in favor of being implemented. It's crazy to me.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:57.960)
Like, it's very obvious, like what mental state he's in.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:01.960)
That's why the apocalyptic pieces in here. That's why.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:04.960)
That's why that explains all of this. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:07.960)
So now it's funny that he takes the side tour for the last hour of his show and talks to this guy who runs a site called Blackpilled dot com.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:18.960)
Apparently, this guy has got some complaints about that movie Bird Box.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:22.960)
I don't know if you saw I haven't seen it.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:25.960)
I don't see movies all that much. Yeah, I saw it.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:28.960)
It's not good. Well, here's his review and we'll see if you agree with him.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:32.960)
The left has ruined a particular form of fiction that I used to be really fond of.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:37.960)
Did the left fiction where the theme, the genre is societal collapse?
Unknown Speaker (01:15:42.960)
Not just because I think it's relevant today, but also because I think it's just interesting to imagine how different people from different walks of life would react to the existing social structure collapsing suddenly.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:59.960)
Just real quick. I don't mean to be dismissive of this complaint, although I am.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:03.960)
I think also that genre kind of fucked itself out.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:06.960)
I think that's why you see remakes of all of the like Day of the Dawn of the Dead movies.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:11.960)
Right. You just see all these remakes of the people who explored those ideas really well.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:17.960)
I know that there are probably examples of newer movies that like take on an interesting twist on stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:23.960)
Yeah. But you also have like Kevin Smith making that Red State movie.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:28.960)
Right. That wasn't... Red State wasn't terrible.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:31.960)
You also have that.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:33.960)
Compared to post Red State. But also, who does he think started that genre?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:41.960)
Like, who does he think?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:42.960)
Conservatives.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:43.960)
Do you really think the conservatives?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:46.960)
Do you think the post-apocalyptic nuclear bomb movies of the 1950s were started by conservatives?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:53.960)
Do you think fucking Godzilla was started by conservatives?
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How about Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Dan? The greatest the world is fucked up movie there's ever been.
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This is a minor point. I would bring my rebuttal to him.
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Be like, I don't think there's much more interesting territory to cover.
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I think we've done the society falling apart. Are people going to get along? Are they going to fight?
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That's why Survivor, you can only watch like three or four seasons of it.
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I'm amazed you can watch that many seasons of it.
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Well, I have more tolerance for people on the beach and that theme song than you, maybe.
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And I also kind of enjoyed Jeff Probst.
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Really?
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You get a certain charm to him.
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Okay.
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I don't know if I've ever told you this, but my buddy Nikki Gifts had the best idea in the world for getting on Survivor.
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Kidnap Jeff Probst, make him the authoritarian dictator.
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That'd be a good plan.
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Yeah.
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Now his plan was, we would always sit around and he'd be like, what I want to do is I want to get on Survivor.
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We go to tribal council, right?
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Yeah.
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And what we do is we all vote for Jeff Probst.
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See what happens.
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Because the votes are all in the bucket.
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So he's pulling out the first vote and he's like, Jeff Probst.
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All right, guys.
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All right. That's pretty funny. Okay.
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Second vote, Jeff Probst.
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Come on, guys.
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Hey, hey, we're still doing a show. Can we get the producer in here?
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Would they redo it? Who knows?
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Oh, of course they would.
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But it's a funny idea.
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They might show it for like five seconds though.
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My point is that Nikki Gift is a funny guy and this criticism so far is soft.
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It's bullshit.
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Of Bird Box.
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A popular TV show that kind of started out like this was The Walking Dead.
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But it's now just become a soap opera where every character is now engaged in either an interracial or LBGTQ relationship.
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I wonder what your problem there is.
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The show is no longer anything about survival or how society would deal with a zombie invasion.
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Just like everything else coming out of Hollywood is just pure leftist propaganda.
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And that's why I was skeptical when someone told me that I would like this new movie by Netflix.
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You know, the company that's been hard at work normalizing pedophilia.
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This new movie by Netflix called Bird Box.
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So real quick, two things.
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First is that he's saying that this is liberal propaganda claptrap.
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And his two examples are people who identify as LGBT and interracial relationships.
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Yes.
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Which is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Those are things you think are like liberal intrusions into a genre.
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That's it?
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Wow.
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What's next?
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What's next, Dan?
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Look, I love a nice, you know, look, I don't even, I can't come up with a genre.
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I like science fiction, but what I don't need to see is miscegenation.
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Hell no.
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What the fuck, Dan?
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Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
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These liberal ideas.
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Are you telling me that these liberals convinced Captain Kirk to kiss a black woman on television?
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It's such propaganda.
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Liberals!
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Liberal intrusion!
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That's crazy to me.
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That's fucking bad.
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If you want to make a point, I'd encourage you not to make that one.
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Because it makes you sound like you don't want racist dating.
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It really sounds like it.
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Look, I like the old movies where you weren't going to see any kind of interracial touching
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or talking unless it's violent.
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And there were only white men and white women kissing, both of them, within their perfect
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gender roles.
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And I don't understand.
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And sometimes the guy will hit her.
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I don't understand.
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Oh, he will hit her like, have you seen The Quiet Man?
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And I just don't understand why these liberals have to turn this culture into something that
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has more ideas and more flavor and more everything.
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I just want white people full stop.
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So from that criticism, I gathered like just from a genre perspective, I don't think this
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is a great review.
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And then second from a, oh boy, you're apparently against interracial relationships and LGBT
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people being represented.
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Cool, man.
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From a genre perspective, his take on sci-fi is no gays.
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So he goes on to talk about how like all the bad guys are white in it.
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And that is like a clear anti-white message and stuff like that.
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Yeah, of course.
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I just did the jack off motion.
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Yep.
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Whatever.
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Yeah, go fuck yourself.
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I went to this guy's website.
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His name is Devin Stack.
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It's BlackPilled.com, not BlackPilled.com.
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That site is still available.
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Go buy that if you want.
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Don't know why he didn't.
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But he went to BlackPilled.com.
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Really?
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Yeah, it took me a while to find the page.
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But when I did, I found his home page.
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And if you look at it, there's problems.
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This guy doesn't seem cool.
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He has articles and videos he's made with titles like, quote, No White Guilt for Blackface,
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or quote, Why They Want to Replace You, which literally argues that people in countries
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with more oppressive governments, like Argentina, have lower IQs.
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And thus, the powers that be are trying to make everyone closer to that in order to install
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a more oppressive government.
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Beyond that, he spent a bunch of time covering how Pizzagate is totally real and, of course,
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the Seth Rich conspiracy.
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He was all into that.
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Naturally.
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He's a good fit for Alex as a fellow nut, unless you want to bring up one of the posts
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from about a year ago that he made that's particularly funny, which is just titled,
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quote, Bill Cooper warned about Deep State 20 years ago.
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Did Alex see that before he had him on as a guest?
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I hope so.
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He didn't because he loves this guy because he's encouraging racial othering and creating
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white oppression narratives throughout his work.
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That's what he's doing.
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That's the entire purpose of this.
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Anyway, I don't have much respect for this guy.
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I think he kind of sucks.
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But his interview is actually really boring.
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But Sandra Bullock is in Bird Box.
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I didn't know that because I haven't seen it.
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Do you know something about Sandra Bullock?
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I don't know anything about her.
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I'll tell you this.
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What's that?
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She's a Nazi.
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Come on.
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Ah.
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So Alex takes this.
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For all of our new listeners, that's a running joke that we let go for a while.
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Yeah.
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And we delivered poorly because it's been so long.
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It's been so long.
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But I only bring it up because Alex takes this opportunity to really just take us some
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swings at Sandra Bullock.
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And I have to add, anything Sandra Bullock involved in is a globalist operation.
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I have total inside knowledge of all of it.
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I'm not at liberty to tell you, but she is a monstrous pig.
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Total PR will stab you in the back is a psychopathic monster.
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How do you know that?
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Sandra Bullock is a soulless pig.
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Period.
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Just like her film, Pig Box.
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She knows that with the neo-Nazi Jesse James, who she divorced.
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And then also it probably has something to do with the fact that she adopted minority
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children.
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I don't know.
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It seems redundant and kind of overly simplistic to assume that's part of it, but it seems
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like it might be.
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And I know that he's friends with Jesse James and Jesse James is 100% at least pretty cool
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with Nazis.
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And Alex, the two of them are friends.
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This is all just information that Jesse James has told him.
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He's like, if you know enough about Alex, you know that what he's reporting on isn't
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facts.
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It's like, hey, the guy that she divorced was talking a lot of shit to me.
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And I know secret shit.
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I know secret stuff from this jilted lover.
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That's not good.
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If that is his source, that kind of suggests that Jesse James said that the only reason
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she divorced him because it's bad PR to be with a Nazi.
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It does suggest that.
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Which?
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You know what?
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I don't want to stick around after he was cheating with a Nazi stripper.
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Yeah, fair.
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Look.
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That is bad PR.
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I don't want to get into it.
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I don't really care.
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It just seems like what Alex is doing there is trying to pretend he has real deep inside
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knowledge and it's just, it's kind of like TMZ without any information.
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It's the suggestion of information that it's just gossip he's offering.
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Whatever.
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Who cares?
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Oh, a few episodes back, a few modern day episodes back, I literally said this just
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turned into a gossip talk show.
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Now it's a apocalyptic, white nationalist, authoritarian, apocalyptic gossip show.
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It's a weird thing for an episode to have so much within it, the multitudes, you know,
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you have all this really scary stuff.
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Then this clear, I don't know what even what to call it, biggity movie reviewer.
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Like Richard Roper, but hates minority.
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Yeah, it is kind of like a, it is kind of like a Megyn Kelly.
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Can you imagine if Ebert's review of a movie was too many, too many interracial relationships.
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Don't like seeing race mixing.
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What the fuck, man?
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This liberal nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Yikes.
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So, this brings us to the end of the episode on the 8th, but then Alex Jones takes a powder.
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He lets Owen Schroyer take over on The War Room, gets his bearings about him and comes
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back with a live report.
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For the live coverage of Trump obviously declaring a state of emergency on broadcast TV.
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Everybody knows that that's what he's going to do.
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He's made that clear repeatedly throughout the show.
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It's what's going to happen.
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So now the beginning of this episode or this live thing was very boring, very boring, but
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about maybe let's call it 10 minutes in or so, Alex frames what's going to happen this
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evening.
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Coming up in T-minus 50 minutes, we're going to have the president, his first Oval Office
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address.
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And yesterday I said, they said, oh, there's a special address tomorrow.
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We don't know if it'll be the Oval Office or not.
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It'll be the Oval Office.
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Prediction one came true.
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And that means that's time of war, national crisis, you name it.
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And Trump has already correctly said, we are in a national crisis.
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We are in a national crisis.
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Do we declare it a crisis?
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So I've said, is it a bargaining chip?
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Is that what this is?
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Is this a bargaining chip?
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So the Democrats stop holding it up and creating the crisis of the shutdown government to show
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them I've got the power anyways to build a wall if you don't do it.
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Well, if he announces some deal tonight by Pelosi and Schumer, they'll probably double
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back on it.
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But that could be the only way he doesn't declare an emergency.
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But he needs to declare the emergency because, again, I want to be clear, Obama signed not
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as the executive order in 2012, but at least a dozen more executive orders named after
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that.
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One, two, three.
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He gave martial law dictatorial power to whatever agency and working group he put in under the
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executive order.
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Name them.
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Groups one, two, three, four, five.
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So he's made it clear the only way Trump isn't saying it's a national emergency is he comes
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out and announces a deal that he made because he threw his dick on the table and said, I'm
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going to do that.
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And then Pelosi and Schumer cowered in fear.
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So and you know that they would if he did announce that they were probably back out
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because, you know, they have a history of backing out of deals, unlike the very person
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who had a deal in place to continue funding the government.
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And then because of dickwads like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity then went back on that fucking
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deal.
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You know, you can't trust Pelosi and Schumer.
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There's also that great little clip, although you can't trust Pelosi and Schumer.
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They're giant piles of shit.
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There's also that great clip you can find of Trump talking to them being like, I'm going
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to shut down the government.
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I won't blame you.
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Yeah, no, no.
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He literally said it is going to be my fault.
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I'm going to do this.
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I will accept the blame.
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Yeah.
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But it's not his fault.
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No.
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They're the ones who are dragging their feet.
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And that's what Alex is bringing to the table.
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And I just need to stress because we know after the fact that Trump didn't declare a
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national emergency, he just spouted a bunch of racist bullshit.
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But how do you know that he I didn't watch it because because fuck off.
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I'm not watching that.
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It was no chance.
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It was all just a manipulation of the reality of the situation at the border trying to make
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it seem so awful.
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He was listing people who have been killed by immigrants and stuff like that.
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It was just a white nationalist display, quite frankly.
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I don't mean that flippantly.
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It was absolutely just a like, we need to be afraid of these people flooding into our
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country.
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Of course.
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And it is a crisis of the heart, the crisis of the soul.
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He was appealing on like a pathetically moral level, like trying to use a moral argument
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in terms of like, we need to do this.
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He appealed to the opiate crisis and it's like, dude, fuck off.
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This wall wouldn't help with that at all.
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Oh, no, no, no, it wouldn't.
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It wouldn't help.
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It sounds like it sounds like I know who wrote that speech, Stephen the fucking white nationalist
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racist.
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Some guy with a weird hairline.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Some guy who draws in his hair.
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So and not Carlos Boozer, surprisingly enough.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It does feel that way.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets to this and this next clip I legitimately feel is so disqualifying.
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Alex has no idea what he's talking about and he demonstrates it fully in this next clip.
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No one has ever used a national emergency except Ronald Reagan.
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We did a limited one.
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He used national emergency to order the air traffic controllers to not let planes crash
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and fall in the sky.
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And he said, I order you back to work under emergency order.
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He did that national emergency.
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It was all 50 states air traffic controllers that increase our pay.
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We're gone.
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He said, no, you get back to work.
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I'll have your ass arrested.
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Now, if Congress, the people didn't agree with that, he would get impeached.
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He didn't.
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His approval rating went up 20 points or more or more.
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So here's the deal.
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Alex is 100 percent wrong about this story, and it really illustrates a deep lack of understanding
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on his part on the topics he's covering.
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In August 1981, the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization found themselves
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on strike, demanding across-the-board pay raises and more lenience in the hours of their
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work weeks, given the 24-7 nature of their job.
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Thirteen thousand controllers walked out of negotiations on August 3rd when it became
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clear that the FAA wasn't going to give them what they were looking for, and the strike
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continued.
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Reagan deemed the strike to be illegal and threatened to fire anyone who didn't go back
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to work within 48 hours.
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Eleven thousand controllers didn't cave, and Reagan stood to his word and fired them, even
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going so far as to put lifetime bans on them being rehired.
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Unfortunately, the scabs who didn't stand with the union and their fellow workers were
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enough to maintain approximately 80 percent of commercial towers, and the freight industry
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ran at full levels.
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And just like that, a dickhead president dealt a crippling blow to labor rights in the country.
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On full display in front of the national media, everyone saw exactly what would happen to
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organized labor who went against the power of the government.
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They would be threatened, and those who didn't fall in line would be fired, fined, and potentially
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banned for life from their profession.
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Reagan's argument was that federal employees don't have the right to strike, so if they
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did, he should just fire them, based on the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947.
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This hadn't been done previously, and most people believed that if circumstances ever
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came up, a modern president wouldn't be so shitty as to actually summarily fire federal
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employees for demanding better working conditions.
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But those people had never met Reagan.
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We consider the event to be one of the most important in the history of union busting,
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and a moment that had ripple effects through tons of industries and the lives of just those
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fired workers alone.
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But at no point did Reagan declare a national emergency.
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Alex is trying to conflate the idea of a strike and this government shutdown and this national
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emergency narrative that's going on, which all of them are in no way related.
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But in doing so, what he's saying is that no other president has declared a state of
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emergency except Reagan, which is absolutely not true.
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That is the three people voted on the Federal Reserve of emergency declaring arguments.
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Reagan didn't declare a national emergency, and other people fucking did.
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No, but Reagan did declare a national emergency, it's just not that one.
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There are currently 28 national emergencies in effect, dating back to 1979, the oldest
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one, from the Carter administration.
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Nearly all of them, 25 out of the 28, have to do with putting freezes on the property
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of people involved in various regimes we've not liked, or people who are working to disrupt
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peace processes in countries we did like, like Belarus in 2006, Zimbabwe in 2003, or
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the Western Balkans in 2001.
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The rest are exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to see.
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There's one from 1994 about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
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There's one from 9-11 about terrorism.
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You can make whatever argument you want about these national emergencies for or against
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them.
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I'm ready to talk about that.
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I'm willing to hear both sides of it.
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Some of them are probably very unnecessary.
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Some of them may be hard.
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There might be a good...
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Hey, I'm not against a national emergency about the idea of the proliferation of weapons
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of mass destruction.
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I also think we should be subject to it.
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But there's nuance to the conversation you can have, but you can't make a coherent argument
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that they're secret, or that somehow by declaring them, any president has gained the ability
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to declare martial law and crown themselves king.
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I'm not saying this to be a dick.
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That is literally what Alex Jones and Larry Nichols were arguing in the run-up to the
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2016 election, that Obama was going to declare a state of emergency, and the FEMA provisional
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government would kick in, and then he'd become king.
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And just so no one thinks I'm making that up, here's them saying it.
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Why is it when Obama was elected we were told, oh, thank God, race is finally over, and he's
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done everything in his power and then some to make race a hotter issue now than the day
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the man came in.
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And if you don't believe he is working hard to get these riots activated, and when the
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riots get activated, Alex, here's the part people don't understand.
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When these black mobs start running wild and shooting wildly into the neighborhood, you
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know what people are doing in this country?
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They'll call up and say, please send the government and stop it, protect us.
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We will call for the federal government to come in and protect us.
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We will call for the civil emergency.
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We will.
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We'll be the ones asking for it because, you know what, we'll be scared.
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Here's them talking about it again.
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We know bad stuff's coming.
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What do you see happening?
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Well, it's exactly what you and I had talked about years ago.
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Thankfully, thanks to you and other programs, we stopped it.
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You know, Bill was using, if you'll recall, Alex, Jesse Jackson.
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Remember, Jesse Jackson was supposed to start riots in five major cities.
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And then Bill Clinton would, of course, have to declare a martial law.
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And once they get the provisional government rule in, then they get to be king forever.
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We stopped it by making it public.
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Well, now we've got problems.
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The folks, all of this that's going on is about power, power.
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And the Clintons absorb power like we take in sunshine, like Goku.
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Now, the thing that's going on today, you have to be so careful, so very careful because
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at any time, you know, they're going to start tit for tat, where you kill some black guys,
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somebody kills some white guys, white guys kill some more black guys.
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And then you end up in this total chaos.
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And when that happens, all bets are off.
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And whoever is sitting folks, whoever is in power, when this thing collapses, they become
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king or queen.
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I forgot to mention that Larry Nichols is also a huge racist.
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Yeah, yeah, there's that.
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So look, dude, this is nonsensical.
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This has been their editorial position forever.
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The idea that a president introduces a national emergency, whether it's in this conception
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back then of like these manufactured race riots that they're worried about, whatever
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the situation is, it's created in order for them to create this national emergency, which
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means that they can then become king.
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Like that is deep seated Alex Jones shit.
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It's nuts.
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It is nuts.
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I hate being gaslit so hard.
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It's nuts that he has no idea that there are all of these national emergencies that have
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been in place forever.
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Or he seems not to.
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He literally said that Reagan's the only president to use one.
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Yep.
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That's crazy.
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Look, here's the thing.
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We talked about this already.
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The idea that this is not an invalidation of Alex Jones's rhetoric.
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This is a confirmation of what it's always been about.
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This is the logical endpoint of his rhetoric.
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Right.
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You just see a glimpse through the curtain or whatever, and you see the Wizard of Oz
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is a racist, more or less.
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The idea of anything else was just window dressing.
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It really was.
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Yep.
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So please understand this.
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This episode that we're listening to right now is a direct mirror of the night Alex stayed
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up all night to watch WikiLeaks anniversary live stream that he thought was going to be
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the night of Hillary's downfall.
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On that evening, Alex thought that his magical deus ex machina was going to arrive and whisk
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him away to a post globalist world.
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And in that blissful state, he said things that indicated that he and Roger both had
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advanced knowledge of what was in those leaked emails.
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Unlike Medea, his chariot did not arrive that night.
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In exactly the same way, you can easily sense Alex is expecting this deus ex machina moment
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from Trump on January 8th.
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He thinks this press conference is going to happen, and after that Trump is going to be
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in charge of the U.S. in a state of emergency, and then it's genocide time.
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And in the same way that he let too much slip that night when he was watching Assange, him
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and Roger Stone let too much slip while they're preparing for Trump's speech on January 8th.
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Roger Stone, what do you predict tonight here in about 15 minutes?
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Well, first of all, I think the president's going to stand tall.
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I do think he is going to exercise his executive power.
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I do think he's going to appropriately declare an emergency.
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This is going to make the deep state shift into high gear.
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There will be mass hysteria tonight because the president accurately recognizes that this
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flood of illegals is bringing crime, is bringing drugs, is bringing disease.
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And the Democrats really, I think Owen hit it right on the head.
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They favor a remix of the electorate.
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They favor flooding the American electorate with illegals in order to change the voting
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quotient.
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I see the president going for broke tonight.
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It's his signature issue.
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It is the issue that elected him.
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Let's face it.
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It is.
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It was the single most important issue in his upset election, the most improbable election
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in American history.
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And I think he understands this is the single most important night of his presidency.
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Roger, that's what my gut tells me and my guts never wrong.
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So what in the same way that Mike Adams earlier just really defined authoritarianism and what
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dictators do to shore up power, Roger Stone just directly described white nationalism.
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The idea of these outsiders coming in, bring crime and disease the same way that Don Trump
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Junior with his tweet talking about the zoo walls keep you safe from the animals, stuff
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like that.
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It's dehumanizing ideas.
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All they bring is this horrible disease when the statistics don't match that at all.
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No like reputable science backs that up.
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No nothing, nothing.
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This is all the editorial position of Infowars which is of white nationalism.
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Him describing the shifting of the electorate, all that sort of thing, the voting quotient,
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all that stuff is all the fear of the loss of white power and that is what's important.
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They believe that Trump is going to declare the state of emergency that will create the
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thing that they imagine in their head and it's like Bond villains to a certain extent.
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It's a speak freely moment and Roger Stone directly describes white nationalism, white
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supremacy.
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He's a little slicker than to just say it the same way that Mike Adams did.
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He's still like...
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He's even slicker than saying I don't like miscegenation in movies.
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Right.
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He's slicker than black pilled guy.
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But he's still, that's a little blunt, a little blunt.
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The idea of we're going to protect the electorate, that sort of thing, but not too far off from
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Fox News in general.
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But they think that this moment is coming and we know that it's not.
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And the interesting thing that I take away from that is that they don't know shit.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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Like it's interesting that they're so ramped up, none of them have any inside information.
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They're all caught way off guard by the idea that Trump is just going to be a dick.
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He's just going to do a speech being a dick.
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He's not going to change anything.
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They think he is.
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And that means that Alex Jones knows nothing.
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That means Roger Stone doesn't have any inside information.
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Everything is posturing.
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But it's posturing trying to reinforce the possibility and the hope for a white nationalist
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authoritarian state, which is not great.
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We're living in a time where old white people are trying to, I mean, I guess in the metaphor
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of their conception of what they think they're doing, they're trying to take their ball and
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go home.
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Like everybody's playing.
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Everybody's having a good time.
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And they think they're doing it on the behalf of their kids who don't care.
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Yeah.
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A lot of them probably don't want them to do that.
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No, absolutely not.
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Yeah.
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They sort of use the later generations as a prop in their argument.
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In their argument, of course, will lead to the deaths of their children.
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Like if you continue with this authoritarian white nationalist fascist state, it's only
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going to accelerate our impending deaths by climate change.
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Like everything they're doing, everything they're doing is like, it's going to be awesome
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to live in an authoritarian dictatorship because I'll be dead in 20 years and only my children
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will have to deal with the real fallout of that.
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No, that's about carbon taxes.
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Yeah, you're right.
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So Roger goes on, he wants to talk about how Russia is a bunch of nonsense, which is really
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fun, like the Russia investigation.
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It's fun because also that day, Paul Manafort's lawyers, they posted that document that was
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poorly redacted.
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They're so bad.
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And because of the poor redaction, people were able to find out what was under those
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black bars.
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And it turns out that he had given internal polling data to Russian spies.
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Allegedly.
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No, he admitted to it.
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I know.
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Which is a crime.
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So like there's that stuff and it's like, hey Roger, for years you guys ran a business
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together and he took over for you when you left the campaign.
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It's not good.
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It doesn't look great.
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So Roger really wants to muddy the waters about the idea of this Trump Tower meeting
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that that lawyer, Vesel Nitskaya, had with Manafort, Don Jr., that other Russian spy.
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Vesel Nitskaya?
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No, she was the lawyer, but she was also apparently a spy.
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Yeah, of course she was a spy.
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So Roger wants to talk about that and to say that she had connections with Fusion GPS and
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what have you.
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Oh, of course.
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And that's all good and well.
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That's just a normal Infowars deflection.
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But then Alex Jones makes it fucking weird by bringing some personal stuff into it and
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then showing that he doesn't actually understand what they're talking about.
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This indictment today of the woman Russian lawyer is a precursor.
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You can see the setup.
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Obviously, no one raises the question of why she was meeting with Fusion GPS before and
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after the Trump Tower meeting.
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They're laying the groundwork to try to say that the Trump Tower meeting was somehow treasonous
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or illegal and that Donald Trump Jr. has legal liability.
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I don't see it.
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And let's be clear.
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You advised me to go public.
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I haven't yet.
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I have told the FBI.
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I have told others.
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Fusion GPS is actually a Central Intelligence Agency front interfacing with the Russians
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to trick Russians into engaging in espionage to get Defense Department funding.
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And I'm a foreign military, I'm foreign government, but not the traitors within them.
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They have officially tried to set me up.
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Really?
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And these groups as opposed to privately said and they know that and they're crapping bricks
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right now.
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So.
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So the fact they're doing this, they use this fake just like they're trying to overthrow
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Russia and they spend billions a year with Soros.
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They're using Russian networks they've got in the U.S. that really work for the left
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to try to set patriots up to just talk to them or take money from them to then claim
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this whole fake Russia thing is real.
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The truth is, is the Clintons and others that sold us out to Russia.
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So the fact that this poor Russian woman who, quite frankly, is an idiotic tart, she was
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running around trying to get the rate to hire the Republicans to hire.
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She sent emails that Russians saying, hey, I'm having sex with all these Republicans.
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Well, you hire me and the Russians obviously didn't talk to her thinking she was an agent.
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So this is all they've got.
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I mean, the revenue is quite shameful.
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The Russian intelligence network, quite frankly, if all they've got a woman that didn't even
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work for the FSB, my friend.
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So that's I mean, there's a little bit of chauvinism, misogyny in there.
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But Alex doesn't realize that Roger is talking about Vesel Nitskaya, Alex starts yelling
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about Maria Butina.
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Yeah.
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So these are two different people in very different situations.
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Alex doesn't have a grasp on the facts, which shouldn't surprise us.
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No.
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But also, no one's trying to set you up, although it would be interesting if he tried to repurpose
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that RT interview where he got talked to by Russian intelligence as an attempt to set
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him up or something like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now, that'd be fun.
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That would be interesting.
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I don't think he's doing that.
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I like his like this is a this is a good Russian, like not to not to be like that part of that
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that Russophobic kind of Russian.
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But this is something that the Russian intelligence agencies often do, which is say, we don't
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even have the capabilities of doing that.
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People are trying to say that we're doing that.
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We couldn't even we couldn't do that if we wanted to.
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Alex does that all the time.
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He talks about how low their GDP is and stuff like that.
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That sort of dismissal of like, we don't have the potential.
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Which is what, you know, lull people into a false sense of security.
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It's a strategy.
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It's a very powerful strategy.
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But again, it doesn't prove anything.
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No, no, no, no.
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Absolutely not.
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All it proves is Alex is fucking stupid.
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Can't handle a simple, deflective conversation about this lawyer who had just been indicted
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because he wants to he thinks he's talking about the other one.
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He needed to deflect from not knowing anything about the deflection that he's ostensibly
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supposed to be.
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Meanwhile, lying about GPS, setting him up, using GPS.
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Yeah, we'll see what happens with that.
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So then Trump gives his speech and it's.
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It's just a bunch of nonsense.
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It's complete nonsense.
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And so immediately afterwards, Alex realizes that he was wrong and he starts trying to
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rationalize.
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They threatened a bunch of stuff behind the scenes, economic implosion, you name it.
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He did this.
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And I know how Trump works and kind of predicted this before the show, I kind of figured he
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was going to do it.
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Things changed.
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And he says, OK, I'll see if they do the right thing, give them the chance.
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If they won't, he'll do the executive order.
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But the border, the existential threat to sovereignty, that's real.
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But it's the excuse for the emergency under law is the media will spin it to get rid of
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all the globalist executive orders and Obama crap.
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So I'm not going to give Trump a total pass if in 30 days from now.
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This hasn't worked out or he hasn't reversed the executive orders.
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I'm going to think that they have a compromise.
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He does this all the time.
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These like fake announcements.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Whatever.
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Knowing full well that his listeners will not remember 30 days prior to whenever the
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date is.
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Or he'll just conveniently forget to cover the USMCA getting ratified.
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That's weird.
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Forget that that was a line in the sand for him.
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Odd.
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That stuff.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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But that's slick rationalization saying like Trump was warned that they'd crash the economy
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if he did it.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing.
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Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
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It's just so lame.
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He spent the entire day saying, I know this is going to happen.
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It's going to happen.
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We're going to be covering it when it happens.
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Like letting their lust for authoritarianism show in preparation for it happening.
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And then they said they're going to, you know, I had a sense it was going to happen, but
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you know, things happen and they got Trump got threatened.
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So sad.
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Yeah.
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Sad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex admits he was wrong, but also doesn't really admit he's wrong.
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I believe he said just a few moments ago that his gut says that Trump is going to declare
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a national emergency and his gut is never wrong.
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I think.
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Yeah.
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Earlier in the episode, he did say that.
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And we predicted this was all coming.
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We've not been discredited.
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I don't spend things if I'm wrong about something every once in a while, I'll say it.
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I want to be wrong.
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Believe me.
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I wish I wasn't right.
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This is what needs to be done.
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We're not fetishizing civil emergency.
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We're not fetishizing the power of executive.
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That's literally what you're doing.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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That's all you're doing.
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Look, look, he didn't declare a national emergency.
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And of course we never said we wanted him to like, we're not saying that we want an
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authoritarian government, especially now that he is not instituted one.
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And that kind of suggests that we're still not going to be okay if we keep out and out
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asking for an authoritarian coup.
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We can only ask for an authoritarian coup after it's already happened.
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So we're going to, we assume it's already, we're going to, we're going to pull back and
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we're going to say, you know what?
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Actually, no, we don't think the executive power, we're glad for a compromise about it.
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He also is drunker.
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He's not drunk in the same way that we've seen him so many times, but there's a bit
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of it.
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This is the only clip I think that really demonstrates it where Owen Schroyer has been
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there this whole time.
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Oh, he has?
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Yeah.
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How many words has he gotten to say?
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Not too many.
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Alex keeps trying to prompt him to say things and then Alex just keeps talking.
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But Owen comes in and he starts trying to make the point that now is the time that we
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need to make our support of Trump really public.
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He's trying to make that point.
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Alex doesn't understand what he's saying and then starts bragging.
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We need to be able to go out in public and wear our colors with pride because there's
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a big con right now.
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There's a big sigh up on the American people that Trump supporters are in the minority.
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Trump supporters don't exist.
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We're all, you know, toothless.
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Oh no, they exist.
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And this, that, and the other thing.
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The only way for us to counter that narrative is to physically counter it.
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Oh, I worked out this morning and my trainer showed up in a Trump shirt, and he never does
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that.
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And then I went to a coffee shop on my way here and there were two people wearing Trump
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shirts.
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And I said, well, we will get out.
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Now is the time to say no to the bullies.
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Alex, I can't even go to the gym anymore without, uh, you know, high school and college students
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recognizing me and just saying how much they love info wars.
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So it's weird.
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I think that the propaganda anti bragging my, my, my, my oldest daughter, I've got three
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daughters and a son, I got four children, daughters, you know, 14 down to 20 months.
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My daughter like says, will you come pick me up at this house?
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I go to some house party where the parents had a birthday party.
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They'll be like 20 girls there and their parents and they're all listeners and they all want
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pictures with me.
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And then she had three girls over Saturday and they were, I was like, yeah, I've been,
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I got home late.
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I'm gonna go watch a TV show.
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My wife go to bed and they're like, no dad, come take photos and shoot videos for their
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parents.
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They're such fans.
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I'm not bragging.
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Oh, I'm famous.
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The point is, yes, people are away.
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So like that was Owen trying to introduce this idea of like, we need to counter the
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idea that no one likes Trump by wearing Trump shirts around.
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And then he, he did sort of introduce the idea of popularity by talking about, I go
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to the gym and people know me and that sort of thing.
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But Alex couldn't handle that and had to one up him with this weird story about 14 year
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old girls, uh, taking pictures.
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Oh, people know you, Owen Schroyer, guess what?
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Everybody knows me.
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It is that way.
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It is a one upping.
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It's not like a, it's not helping the conversation at all.
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It's, it's focusing on himself, which is also what he does all the time.
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Yeah.
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It's very much that drunk conversation that you've had with somebody in a bar before where
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I've been on the wrong side of that conversation where, where it's like they say something
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and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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For sure.
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That's just like this completely unrelated thing that's going to exactly change the topic
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1 million percent from whatever the fuck it was you were talking about.
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I wasn't listening to you.
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I think it was what you were talking about, but yeah, so that's all fun.
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There's one more clip from the, uh, the night of, of, uh, January 8th.
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Uh, and it's Alex kind of freaking out cause you know, the, it didn't go the way he expected
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it to.
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Clearly he doesn't have any, like he's expressing in this clip, you won't say it out loud probably,
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but he's expressing that he has no idea where to go now.
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Yeah.
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Like I have just shot my load or less in this, uh, the earlier show and the, the ramp up
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to Trump's speech and then Trump's speech disappointed.
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It didn't do what I said it was going to do.
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Everyone's going to know that.
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And the only place he can turn is Roger Stone.
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And so he tells him this, he begs him, yeah, but let's talk about it.
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You told me two years ago, Bannon was bad and wanted to go after him.
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And I said, no, so you didn't.
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So I feel guilty.
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You said that you said the generals were globalist cocksuckers, excuse my French show.
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Tell us how, not how you knew, but who's the new enemy.
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I mean, bring it down.
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Well, again, I think general Kelly didn't leave until yesterday.
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As I understand it, he was impeding progress on a number of fronts right up until the last
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minute.
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He is now physically out of the building.
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You were the first to say it, so who does he work for?
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Oh, I think he is a, his job was to be a minder for Donald Trump for the deep state as was
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Rex Tillerson as, as was a HR McMaster, one of the greatest disasters of all time.
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And he doesn't give him an answer at all.
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Alex is begging, like, tell me what to hate.
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Yep.
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I need you to focus me in a direction because this has been a fucking disaster.
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And that to me kind of implies that Rogers to blame for Alex thinking this, and there
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was very much a, this disaster is your fault, so you better fucking pick up the pieces.
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You told me he was definitely going to declare a national emergency.
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Yeah.
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Now I'm going to give you credit for being right about Bannon back then in order to
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present my righteous anger at you to tell me where to go because I can't figure this
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out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's sad.
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That's a pretty bad way to end the, uh, the, the evening.
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It is.
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It is schadenfreude being what it is.
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That is, that is very much a man who immediately recognized I'm in over my head and I don't
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know anything.
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I, yeah, there is a moment of like, oh shit, Roger doesn't know anything either.
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Yep.
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Like he had an inside pipeline and he doesn't know shit.
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He doesn't know a goddamn thing.
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And he also was talking earlier in the day, I didn't have any clips of this from his episode,
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but there's an article in zero hedge about how Trump wasn't going to declare a national
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emergency.
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Yeah.
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And he kept talking about it like I liked zero hedge, but I think they're wrong.
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That sort of thing.
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Yeah.
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And that has to be weighing on his mind too.
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It's like other news sources in his world had it right.
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He had it wrong.
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Yep.
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And he's best friends with Trump's supposed best friend.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or the way that Alex builds that up.
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So he's got to have some sort of insecurity.
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So that's how he ends the broadcast on the 8th in the evening.
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There's some more rambling, but it's not worth talking about.
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So then he sleeps it off and comes back to work on January 9th on Thursday, Wednesday.
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And here is how he comes to the table.
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And this is super weird.
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There's a couple of problems with it, and you'll see pretty quickly what those problems
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are.
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Now, I was going to come back in this segment and I'll get to this later, but everybody
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knows my habit of mentioning something coming up and getting right into it.
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But when we come back, constitutional lawyer, really smart cookie, founder of Oath Keepers,
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is going to be joining us, Stuart Rhodes.
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But here's the bottom line.
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And he's a constitutional lawyer, won awards at Yale for his writings and of course worked
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for Ron Paul.
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Smart guy.
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I'm very concurs with him with what I've said.
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Trump essentially is no longer the president.
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He has advocated his responsibility.
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He's shining it away.
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He's let a group of people around him tell him that he can't fire the head of the fellow
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reserve, which he can do in the code.
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No, he can't.
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That is a pretty crazy declaration that he's making there, that Trump is no longer president.
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He's given up this power.
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Now, still later in the episode, he does talk about how he's going to give him some time
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and what have you.
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But this is 29 days now.
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That's as strong a language as I've seen come out of him on that kind of front.
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The idea that Trump is no longer president, he's bowing to the globalists.
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Not since ISIS has been up his dirty asshole.
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But this is during the morning.
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This is during the beginning of the show and he's not wasted after a bombing.
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So it's wild to see.
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I think that there is some sort of actual narrative progression here.
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I've been wrong in the past and he's just walked things back entirely.
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But I think that there is a kernel of sincere resentment and disappointment because I think
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when you fly too close to the sun, you end up realizing, I think, what your wings are
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made of.
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That sort of idea that, you know, like, yeah, Icarus had wax wings.
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They melted when he flew too close to the sun.
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Alex has white nationalist wings and also fascist authoritarian leanings.
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And he flew too close to the sun by encouraging and endorsing and supporting the hypothetical
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enactment of those things.
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And he did that because of the bad information that Roger Stone was giving him.
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And I think he's fucking pissed off about it.
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I think that on some level he recognizes he showed ass and he's got to reclaim it somehow.
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And what does he do?
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He starts hanging out with the fucking Oath Keepers again.
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I haven't heard them a ton on the show.
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I haven't heard Stuart Rhodes a ton on the show.
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I don't remember hearing him even in any of the episodes from 2015 that we were listening
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to in the ramp up to the election.
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The only time I know him from and Alex Jones's rhetoric is 2009.
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When we did that episode.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he shows up throughout that.
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I'm sure.
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He pops up during the Tea Party time when Alex is trying to reclaim that from Glenn
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Beck's 912 stuff.
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And to me, this is so fascinating because what do you do when that all goes bad?
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You go back to as best as you can tell a similar spiritual version of it that you had before.
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It's like going back to an ex.
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He represents the militant, very close to violence, white supremacist version of Ron
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Paul support, which is as close as Alex can get back to home.
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And that is what he yearns for in the day after this disastrous live stream where he
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ramped up that Trump is going to announce a national emergency.
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And then the only way he can really deal with it when it doesn't happen is to blame the
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globalists for threatening to collapse the economy.
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Yep.
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Great.
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And I'm like, well, we loved Trump, but he has failed us.
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That's the only move he can make.
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And that's the only narrative I can see moving forward.
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And he probably would love to do that with his old riding partners, the fucking Oath
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Keepers.
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Do you think that that kind of signals a getting away from Roger Stone's like courthouse, like,
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you know, palace intrigue?
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It's way too early to tell, but possibly.
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Yeah.
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Right, right.
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I'd like it to.
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The failure of Roger Stone seems to be a pretty big one.
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It's big.
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So is it.
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But it's also the it's a big one in a long line of them.
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Like there's been wrong about a lot of stuff lately.
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Right.
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And yeah, I think I think I hope so.
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I don't know.
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I'm never one who likes to make predictions.
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I'm fine with analyzing what's being said and stuff like that.
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But when when it comes to that sort of stuff, I always feel like I think it's going this
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way and then it ends up going the other way.
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So far be it for me to say that.
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But it does feel like that would be that feels appropriate.
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It feels appropriate right now.
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Yeah.
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Alex is trying to get away from whatever Roger has brought into his life.
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And it's this.
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I'm going to stop doing this back channel bullshit and I'm going to get back to my roots,
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which is white people getting together and murdering.
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It was better back then for his business.
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It was better for all that.
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No one kicked him off fucking YouTube and Facebook for that shit.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I don't know.
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I feel like there might be a this might be the signaling of that part of the behind the
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music episode.
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Or it's like that.
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And that was the beginning of the turn back.
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Yeah, Alex Jones entered a studio with an acoustic guitar and decided to sing some hate
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songs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we have one more clip.
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And this is just can't can't imagine anything more clear than this.
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And the truth is, you're a white person in Germany.
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That's not allowed.
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And you see, I see how people love to race war.
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So they're just flipping it now.
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Perfect for the Germans where now it's get the white people.
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And I see on Twitter and stuff are saying ban the German language.
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People now believe that's Nazi.
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Yeah.
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There's an article right there.
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That's exactly what John Waterman is talking about on his blog from a week ago about the
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Jews and Germany being the second Israel.
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There's no difference between their rhetoric.
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He's saying that white people in Germany are to be extinguished or vanished to be gotten
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rid of is nothing.
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There's nothing different between him and the people who are more overt and say the
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different words.
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It's no different.
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So in summation, I don't know how I'm going to do this in summation.
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Yeah.
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Let's fucking fly this plane home, Dan.
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Look, the landing gear is stuck.
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Oh, no.
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Alex Jones tried to do something ambitious in this two day span.
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But what he tried to do was a reveal of what's to come.
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The apocalypse, the revolution, Armageddon.
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Yeah.
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The war, literal war, direct vengeance filled war between the globalists and his nationalist
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armies.
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It was going to be set off by Trump coming on air in the Oval Office, as Alex Jones pointed
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out, the place for war and the place for national emergency and security.
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He was going to come on.
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He's going to announce that the globalists are going to have a backlash.
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But the patriots were right.
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So they were going to end up vanquishing them, killing them.
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Trump's military police were going to clear out all the bad people and the judiciary and
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the media was going to be reclaimed and all that stuff.
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We are not fucking stupid.
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So we see through that and we see what he's talking about is an authoritarian power grab.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is super excited about that.
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He doesn't go his way.
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And I think he realizes he has to pivot.
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I think he has to.
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Because this isn't the same as the Syria bombing.
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It's not the same because in the sober morning light, he is sticking to it.
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Well, there's that.
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I think that's that's the big that's the big difference that I'm taking away from.
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That is certainly a difference.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, to me, when we when you play the clip from the next morning and it is a
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continuation or no, no, no, it's an escalation of his previous night's shit.
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Whereas after the Syria bombing, that was a man drunkenly getting angry and screaming
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about shit.
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And then in the next morning, he's like, well, you know, talk down exactly.
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This morning is a you know, last night I was like, I'll give him some time.
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I'll say all this stuff.
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And this morning I'm thinking about it and I continue thinking about it.
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And I don't think he's going to come back my way.
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And that what that means to me, what I can suss from that, those differences of response
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to these events is that in the prior event with the bombing of Syria, what got him off
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that ledge and got him back in pocket was the exact advice that he no longer trusts.
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Exactly.
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Whatever it was that got him back into the fold before is the thing that he's like, that
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is what got me to say that there was going to be a fucking national emergency.
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I was wrong publicly.
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And that's Roger Stone.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it has to be.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know what this pretends, but I would love it to be a pivot because I think there's
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much more interesting, fertile territory for Alex outside of Trump now.
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Yeah.
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Although I don't know how much it matters because his true colors have shown like the
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mask has fallen off.
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Yep.
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He wants someone like Trump, an authoritarian white nationalist to create a state of emergency
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wherein unlimited executive power can be expressed in order to get rid of the people he politically
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disagrees with in various media, judiciary, mayors, governors, that sort of shit.
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So I mean, it doesn't matter what he pivots to.
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That's in his heart.
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Yep.
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You know, in the same way that when we went back and heard that clip from like the 90s
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when he's talking about the leaderless resistance, which was clearly a reference to Louis Beam.
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Like this is in his heart.
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White nationalist, white supremacist ideology has always been a part of his rhetoric no
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matter how much he's masked it.
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And now we also know that a strong desire for that to be brought in through authoritarianism,
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fascism, strong arm tactics, that is also probably always been in his heart.
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Yeah.
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So I don't care what he does, really, although just from a performance standpoint, it would
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be more interesting.
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It wouldn't change my feelings on him, but I guess it would be more interesting to to
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disentangle.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I, I, I see so much of because because of all the stuff we've gone over, so much of
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that couching of his real authoritarian white nationalist bent is similar to so many people
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who are less engaged.
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Their talking points come from all of these different places.
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And these people who are less engaged probably don't have an intellectual understanding of
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the underpinnings of their talking points, which are, of course, white nationalists giving
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them the benefit of the doubt.
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What they're doing is they're they're picking teams.
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You know, this is my team.
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That's your team.
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I'm going to go with my team no matter what.
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And it is really important.
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In response to his rhetoric, and this is going to come from left field for me, you should
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talk to the people who are not engaged, who say things like this bullshit, very anti Jordan,
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very anti Jordan.
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Because, you know, my family, they are saying things so eerily and fucking consistently
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similar to Alex, and they don't realize that they're white nationalists like they just
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don't know.
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Yeah, they they think they're Republicans.
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And it's it's turned into the same thing.
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And they didn't they didn't know that it was the same thing.
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It's a it's a frog in a pot kind of situation, the gradually raising the temperature makes
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you not realize what has become of.
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Yeah.
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The thing you felt comfortable in for a time and is now boiling.
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And it's gonna it's gonna be a shit conversation.
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But it's it's got to be something that we have to actually communicate is that if you
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are a disengaged Republican, you are inexplicably or no, you're very explicably now a white
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nationalist and you got to figure out how you got there.
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You have someone like Steve King who's in office and you just you can't square that
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with.
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When did white nationalism become a bad term, Dan?
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You can't square that with complacency.
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There's no way to do that.
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You like it's it's not it's not OK.
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And yeah, I think you're right.
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You should have those conversations with people.
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And it's possible to have those conversations with people.
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It's not it's not appropriate to like just go and beat people up for siding on the wrong
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side.
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It's the right people, though, because you might get your ass kicked if you pick the
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wrong people.
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But it is still conducive to conversation to try and explain to people that what they
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are doing is tacitly supporting violence.
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They're tacitly supporting violence against minorities, people with different gender expressions,
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people in people with medical conditions that people look down on, people who are gay and
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lesbian, bisexuals, all of it.
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It's tacit violence against them.
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And it's not OK.
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Yep.
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Anyway, oh, Dan, this was a fucking journey.
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It was.
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And I think it's an important episode in terms of our coverage of Alex Jones.
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I think it's really a illustrative I wanted to write like a fucking long speech to give
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at the end of this that really ties a bunch of strings together.
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But I think but Trump already wrote it.
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So it's true.
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Yeah.
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You didn't have a chance.
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And I also think that a lot of it is pretty clear.
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You know, I think I think what you see here is the mask falling off.
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And it's not it's not forced.
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It's an unforced error.
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It's it is absolutely Alex drawing his cards.
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And it's embarrassing and pretty fucked up.
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But it's also not news.
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We already knew this stuff about him.
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He's just demonstrating it publicly.
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So we'll be back next week on Monday.
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But until then, yeah, we'll be back with probably a less incredibly scary, not sure about, oh,
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you son of a bitch.
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We'll be back, though.
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And we will then we have a website knowledgefight.com.
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We do.
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We also have a Twittering account.
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That's right.
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We're in Twitter.
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It's knowledge underscore authoritarianism is great.
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Yep.
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And we're on Facebook.
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Exactly.
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Go home and tell your mother you're a fascist.
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That's right.
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That's a great group that you can join.
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We're also on iTunes.
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We are on iTunes.
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The name of our podcast on iTunes is Knowledge Fascism.
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That's correct.
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Guys, it's been a lot of fun.
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Oh, God.
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All these people.
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Do we have anybody who probably hasn't killed a guy?
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Mike Adams.
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Bad medical advice has probably killed someone.
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Yeah.
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Look, that guy from Blackpilled seems like a real shithead, but I bet he hasn't killed
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anybody.
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That's true.
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Seems like he just has some bad film criticism and bad ideas about race relations.
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That's probably not killed anybody, but one guy who technically probably has that guy
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is Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.