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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first name caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan.
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Hey.
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Dan.
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What?
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What's the-
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What?
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What's the deepest you've ever swum?
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What?
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I've been in the Marianas Trench, boy!
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Deep down there!
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How deep?
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Oh, so deep.
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I got deep like Jacques Cousteau.
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No, I don't need that. I don't need that in my life.
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Referencing a song by the Jedi Mind Tricks from my 1996 album, I don't know.
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My favorite part of your-
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The psychosocial, biological, electromagnetic, and chemical manipulation of human consciousness.
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A great album that I loved before I realized how horribly homophobic the Jedi Mind Tricks are.
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I realized, oh no, Vinnie Paz, you're a bad dude.
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My favorite part of your references is just how relevant they are, just how so fucking relevant.
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I don't know, man. I went, you know, I lived in Hawaii for a little while, went scuba diving a number of times.
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Did you?
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Never like bell diving or anything like that. I never got the bends.
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I've been, I kicked a shark once.
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You kicked a shark once?
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Yeah, it wasn't-
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Like out of anger?
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No, it was an accident. I had like a, I was swimming around and it was like a little shark, not like a hostile shark.
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No.
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I kicked it and it scared the shit out of me.
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A hostile shark sounds like a great name for a movie.
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Yeah, and a great Jedi Mind Tricks album.
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From 1998.
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What?
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No, it wasn't.
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Oh, okay. God dammit.
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Visions of Gandhi, I think was their next album.
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God dammit, I believe you when you make a reference toward Jedi Mind Tricks. I will buy anything.
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Legacy of Blood.
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Oh yeah? Wasn't that the third Blade movie?
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Yeah, I think so. Visions of Gandhi was another one.
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Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell.
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I don't know.
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That actually sounds fun.
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They have something to them, but they are horrible monsters. Bad opinions.
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Late 90s hip-hop was really homophobic.
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Yeah.
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Pretty much across the board.
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They never grew out of it, although they're fucking beeps.
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Plenty of people have grown out of it. Tyler-
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No, I'm sorry.
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Oh no, okay. I was going to say.
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I'm saying that icon, the verbal hologram-
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Mainstream, man, because Tyler just came out, man.
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Oh, that's cool.
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Yeah.
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Good on him. I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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I don't keep up with stuff. I'm not a-
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Fair enough. I understand.
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Yeah. I got a lot of Alex Jones to listen to. It hurts my pop culture awareness.
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Can't keep up with Odd Future, Wolfgang killed them all?
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Cannot.
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I'm telling you, Earl's sweatshirt, man. Earl.
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I heard that album is good.
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Earl's sweatshirt is a beast.
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I saw some tweets.
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About it.
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We're great at this show, dude.
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Yeah, we are.
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Something else that's great on this show-
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What's that?
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Is how we like to give shout-outs to new donors.
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Easy transitions?
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Jordan, today I'd like to give a shout-out to some new folks who have joined up and supported the show.
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We're very excited about this and thank you so much.
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First, Benjamin, congratulations on becoming a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Benjamin.
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Thank you very much, Benjamin.
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I'd also like to give a shout-out to someone with the coolest name in the world who has become a policy wonk.
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Dan Friesen.
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Close. Thank you so much, Daniel.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Daniel.
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I actually saw that coming. Prophecy.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah.
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Book of Daniel, a great song by M.F. Grimm.
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Every music now is going to be Jedi Mind Tricks.
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No, M.F. Grimm.
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Yeah, I know. I heard it, but I needed you to say Jedi Mind Tricks.
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I wish. I wish there was a Daniel reference in there. I couldn't make my camp.
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Also, very special shout-out to someone who joined up.
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This is someone who's been a long time supporter of the show.
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And we can't thank her enough for all of the non-direct...
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Sure. No, you're crushing it.
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She's been on board forever and has spread the word about the show.
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We can't thank her enough.
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And I'd like to say thank you so much.
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Heather, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much, Heather.
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Yes. It's a delight to have you on board with the Wonkery, although you have been for a long time.
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I actually met her when we were down in Texas.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's great.
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It's at the very least been an honorary policy wonk for so long.
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Yeah.
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It's good to... I don't know, now I feel cheap.
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Like, now it's like...
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It's good that you joined the policy wonks, which apparently has an entrance fee?
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I know. In fact, I feel so bad about it, I'm going to bump her up to a technocrat.
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All right, there we go.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ!
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Thank you so much, Heather.
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Thank you so much.
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That's what we call an Audible.
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Yeah.
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Audible.com does not sponsor the show.
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Do you know what's crazy?
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My girlfriend just asked me like three days ago what calling an Audible means.
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Oh yeah?
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Yeah, she's 30 or some, some age around there.
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I assume a lot of people didn't watch sports when they were younger.
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Yeah, but it's colloquialism that's been in the public zeitgeist for so long.
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Yeah, but there's so many ones like batten down the hatches and stuff like that.
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Like there's a lot of idioms.
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Well yeah, but that's from like 1500s.
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There's like 23 skidoo.
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There's a lot of idioms.
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Okay, now 23 skidoo is wackadoo.
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I don't understand what that means still.
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Chippecanoe and Tyler too.
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There's a lot of expressions that we use.
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Who stands Chippecanoe and Tyler too?
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I do.
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Look, there's a lot of expressions that we don't know why we say them, but we do.
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I still don't know why you say Chippecanoe and Tyler too.
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It rhymes.
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One more shout out I'd like to give to someone who has been donating and bumped it up a little bit.
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And actually, it turns out that I've retired the foreign policy wonk sound effect.
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I can't find it.
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You can't find it?
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No.
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So officially now...
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Everyone is a globalist.
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Yeah, basically.
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Foreign policy wonk is now globalist.
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And thank you so much, Sarah.
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You are now a globalist.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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Thank you, Sarah.
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So...
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Yes, thank you very much, Sarah.
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Also to everyone who is currently a globalist, please email Dan and we will play a 45 minute long repetition of that exact clip for you.
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I hope we don't do that.
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But thank you to everybody.
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The last month was really awesome in terms of expansion of the podcast, growth.
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Massive growth in terms of listenership.
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Hell yeah!
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And we really appreciate everybody who's helped spread the word because we're piles of shit at that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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We're so bad.
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And it means a lot and it is showing dividends.
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So thank you for everyone's help with our shortcomings.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today...
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Also, I'm emotionally unavailable, so this is very helpful.
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Thank you to everybody.
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The audience fills in.
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There's plenty of shortcomings that they have helped me with.
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I'm escapist!
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I watch shows about people eating food all the time to try and soften my feelings.
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Chopped.
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Chopped is not on Netflix.
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Can't do it.
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Although, I watched that show, Million Dollar Menu, and I love it.
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You love it?
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Million Dollar Menu?
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I'm furious.
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There's only six episodes of it.
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So good.
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It's hosted by Famous Mater D. I was texting you about this.
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I know.
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I don't understand that.
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You said the words Famous Mater D and my brain broke.
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Watch one fucking episode of this show and you'll get why he's a famous Mater D.
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I don't know what that would entail.
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So welcoming.
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Is he just really good at moving people to their tables?
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I want to be like him.
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Okay.
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You watch this show and you're like, oh god, this guy.
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You want to be like him.
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Alright.
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The exact opposite way I feel about Alex Jones.
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Does he speak French?
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Damn you!
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That was a perfect translation.
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No, but he has a slight French lilt to his voice.
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Okay.
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He speaks in English, which is delightful.
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Okay, good.
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Not delightful.
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Alex Jones.
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There you go!
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Second attempt.
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Saved it.
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So Jordan, we got sidetracked from our 2009 investigation quite heavily.
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Yeah.
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By the present day, Alex Jones getting kicked off of everything and us dabbling around in
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that and covering it and then the Anders Breivik episode and, you know, so we got off track
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a little bit, but it's important because we were so close that we could taste it to getting
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to the outbreak, and I mean literal outbreak, of the Tea Party.
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Starring Dustin Hoffman.
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And so today we're going over February 25th to March 1st in 2009.
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As we've pointed out repeatedly, February 27th, 2009 is the date of the first Chicago
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Tea Parties that broke out across the nation.
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There was something, I don't remember the exact number, but we'll get to it later.
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There was, like, many of them in a bunch of states and cities around the country.
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It is seen as the formal kickoff of the Tea Party.
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Curiously well-funded group.
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Very strange.
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Curiously well-funded group before it had ever really coalesced into a group.
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Very strange.
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It's odd.
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Especially when you track the roots of it that were around from the, like, Citizens
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for a Sound Economy having a Tea Party website going years before.
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It's great.
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Stuff like that.
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They were crushing it.
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It's also been a little bit not forthcoming about the reality of what we're talking about.
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So on the 27th, there were 40 cities where they had this nationwide Chicago Tea Party.
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But on February 18th, 2009, or sorry, on the 19th, the day after, the 18th was the day
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that Obama announced the Homeowners' Affordability and Stability Plan.
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On the next day, CNBC business news editor Rick Santelli criticized the plan on a live
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broadcast from the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
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He said that the plans were promoting bad behavior and subsidizing losers' mortgages.
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He suggested holding a Tea Party for traders to gather traders, not traitors, to gather
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Well, they're a little bit both, honestly.
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and dump their derivatives into the Chicago River on July 1st.
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President Obama, are you listening, he asked.
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There are no adults.
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His rant went viral and was promoted on the Drudge Report.
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So that happened on the 19th, which we've already covered that period of time.
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Alex never brings that up.
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He has every reason to know about this from the sources that we know he looks at.
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This is the kind of thing he should be into.
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He's not mentioned at once.
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So now as we get closer to the outbreak of the nationwide Chicago Tea Party,
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it'll be interesting to see how he responds to the actual event.
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I don't remember everybody dropping their derivatives into the Chicago River.
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40 cities and those people that I saw there probably didn't have a lot of derivatives.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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I think they might have lost the thread pretty quickly within that two weeks.
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Also, it's fun that a guy went on a business channel and said,
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Oh, that program to stop the giant recession that we're not coming out of?
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Boo! It rewards the losers.
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You know, the people who were scammed, whose money was stolen from them.
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It's not the most palatable thing.
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No, thanks, Trader Joe.
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So we start today on the 25th.
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And Alex has a narrative that goes throughout the entire episode that he feels really passionate about.
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And I'll say I give this one star.
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In the meantime, we will go over the latest developments with the address of Congress.
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I guess he doesn't want to wait months until the scheduled ancestral ceremonial ancient right of the State of the Union.
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This is an address of Congress, but the public can't tell the difference.
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And it was interesting watching all of those Congress critters, as some call them, and criminals.
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Almost all of them, hardcore criminals.
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Don't disagree.
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A large portion of them.
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Don't disagree.
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Those certainly empower hardcore criminals, the committee chairman and others, predominantly.
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Probably.
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There they were, just a 10-minute standing ovation, just clapping and clapping and worshipping and kneeling and bowing like some primitive ritual to the war chief.
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And it really was a celebration of their robbery.
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So I don't disagree with his criticism that they do way too many of those standing ovations whenever the president addresses Congress.
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Yeah, isn't that weird?
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It's very strange.
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What are you guys doing?
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Can't you just sit there and, like, pay attention?
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As somebody who's like, I mean, you've done stand-up for many years, I did do it for many years, the idea of that, like, you wouldn't want that.
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No, it would bum you out.
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You wouldn't want that many standing ovations.
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It's very jarring and disorientating.
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Yeah, and not just least of which, but if you're not making some people angry, what are you doing?
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Exactly.
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You know, what are you doing?
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You don't have any integrity.
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I'll go with him on that.
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I think it's really false and artificial and lame.
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Totally.
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But he's saying that, like, Obama's doing something wrong by addressing Congress when it's not the State of the Union speech, as if it's some sort of behavior that only a ruler king would engage in.
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Only one.
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Only one man, one type of man would ever address Congress on any other day, Dan.
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But the reality is that this is a very common practice among newly elected presidents.
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On February 27th, 2001, George W. Bush addressed the joint session of Congress, which was not the State of the Union.
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That was right after 9-11, though.
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No, it wasn't.
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On February 17th, 1993, Bill Clinton gave a speech to the joint session of Congress.
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On February 9th, 19-
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That was right after the first time that the Twin Towers got hit.
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On February 9th, 1989, George H.W. Bush addressed the joint session for the first time.
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On February 18th, 1981, Ronald Reagan addressed the joint session.
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That was when he tore down the Twin Towers.
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In 1977, Jimmy Carter waited until April 20th, 420 up high!
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Nice!
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Click!
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He waited until April 20th to address the joint session, but it was not the State of the Union.
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In 1973, Richard Nixon didn't address the joint session, but to be fair, he was a little busy at the time.
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On March 19th, 1965, LBJ gave a speech to the joint session that was not a State of the Union.
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Sorry for killing Kennedy, guys. That was me.
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On April 12th, 1921, Warren G. Harding addressed the joint session.
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I'm Warren G. Harding! Hello to Congress!
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That's a great impression.
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On May 16th-
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I think he's a witch.
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On May 16th, 1797, John Adams addressed the joint session.
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It wasn't a joint- it wasn't a-
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Listen, here's the deal.
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Typically and especially the first time a president wins the general election,
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generally not if they get re-elected, but the first time that they get elected in the general election,
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they give a speech to the joint session of Congress about a month after being inaugurated.
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It's a very common practice, especially in modern American political tradition.
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Oh, and also on February 28th, 2017, Donald Trump addressed the joint session of Congress.
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It was not the State of the Union, just the exact same formality speech that so many presidents,
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including the dreaded tyrant Barack Obama, has given in the past.
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Hmm.
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It's very, very standard stuff, and Alex should know that,
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and the fact that he's complaining about it, making it seem like it's some weird thing,
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means to me he doesn't understand American civic reality.
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Or it's almost like he's just creating a narrative whole cloth in order to take down a guy that he doesn't like.
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I have never heard of the conservative media doing anything like that, Dan.
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Our boy wouldn't do that.
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Never! Never!
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Never!
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So, he complains about this probably throughout a lot of this episode.
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He comes back to it over and over again.
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Oh my God.
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So Obama just gave a speech?
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Yes.
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And this is an entire episode?
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No, it's not the entire episode, but he comes back to it over and over again.
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I don't have a ton of instances of it, but he brings it up with his guests that he has on.
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It's sort of something that he's really trying to make a meal out of.
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A thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But before we get into any of the sort of serious stuff about this episode,
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Alex is in a mood and he gets a caller that asks him about secession.
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Right.
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And he rushes to break.
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And when he comes back from break, he addresses the issue of secession of the states.
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And I don't know if he does a great job.
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Okay.
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We're asking what the feds are going to do as the states secede.
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I want to be clear about this because people get confused by it and then claim that I am being hypocritical or double-faced.
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That is not...
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Two-faced.
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I'm not Janice here, ladies and gentlemen.
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Double-faced.
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I want to be clear about this.
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I am not for state secession.
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Okay.
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But unless it is an emergency last-ditch effort where the United States has fully been sucked into the North American Union,
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it's already being merged with the transatlantic treaty agreement with the European Union.
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Yeah.
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So you should...
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What I am for is the states declaring their inherent sovereignty.
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It was the states that constituted and created the federal government.
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Not really.
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And so when states declare sovereignty and say, we're not going to follow your gun laws, we're not going to follow your open borders,
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we're not going to let the feds come in here and enforce taking people to jail when you set up your national draft and conscription.
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Sure.
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That is their job.
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The states created the federal government.
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That's why it's the United States.
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Again, not really.
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And if 35 states got together and said, we are abolishing the federal government, it is law.
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It is stated in triplicate.
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Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, that that would happen.
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But you can have states individually say that they're not following what the federal government says.
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Sure.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, I think he just summed it up appropriately.
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If you have 35 states who decide to abolish the federal government, then the federal government has two weeks to get out.
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It's like an eviction notice.
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I'm telling you, I'm glad he started that by saying, let me be clear.
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Because crystal clear.
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Clear as day.
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Let me be clear.
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I do support secession, but I don't.
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That would be a last ditch effort if the federal government was doing everything it's currently doing right now.
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Right.
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All of those things it's doing would cause secession.
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It's basically like, I don't want the states to secede and dissolve the union unless there's an emergency.
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Now, I should say my entire career is based on convincing you that there's exactly that emergency going on.
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I misrepresent the fact to paint a picture that that is the emergency, so please secede, but I'm not in favor of it.
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No, please don't secede, but you gotta.
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Guys.
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You gotta secede.
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You don't wanna.
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Guys.
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Which 35 states would secede?
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Also, the idea that the states created the union.
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Yeah, sure.
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On some level, that's the truth.
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But there are also a lot of states that weren't part of the fucking union when it started.
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Also, a lot of the states are involved in secede.
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I still don't think Montana is a state.
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No.
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Principality at best.
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And then, I think what he wants is just like, feudal city-states.
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You know, just all the states are their own little mini countries where the governor is the king.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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The sheriff is the highest authority in the land.
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The sheriff is like the sheriff of Nottingham.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Basically.
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Yeah.
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I don't like that vision of the future.
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Anyway.
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Nope.
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I don't like that vision of anything.
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It bums me out that it was the past.
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So, Jordan, here we go.
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Finally, on February 25th, after a copious amount of looking, we finally find someone bring up the tea party.
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Cool.
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It's not Alex.
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Okay, Susan in Illinois.
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Go ahead.
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I'm Susan!
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Hi, Alex.
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Hi, Susan.
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Well, I've been awake for about three months.
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Go to bed.
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And the first two weeks, I was in shock and cried and felt betrayed.
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And now I'm pretty much just mad.
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And, um, but with that, I wanted to remind or tell everybody to go to nationwidechicagoteparty.com.
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I don't know if you've heard of it, but there's, you know, a nationwide tea party happening in about 35 cities, people protesting.
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And I'm really encouraged about that.
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So, unfortunately, at this point, she's like, what do you think about the pope?
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And Alex goes off on answering that question.
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Right.
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He doesn't respond to her bringing up the tea party.
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Right.
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He gets lost in his own world of like, well, I don't want to shit on the Catholics, but popes, you know, he's bad.
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Oh, they're all bad.
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They're all globalists.
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Do we still have Nazi pope at this time?
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Yes.
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Yeah, we still have Ratzinger, the Nazi pope.
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And so I only know that because someone requested that I go to the day that the pope steps down.
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And I tried to find that episode, but Alex was on vacation and David Knight was hosting that day.
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And David Knight's not really around.
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The pope has stepped down.
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Don't do it.
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He is no longer the pope.
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This has not been seen since other popes in the past.
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And now for expert analysis, Leo's Agami.
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And the pope isn't gone.
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All right.
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No, that's not good.
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That's not a good.
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That's very stereotypical.
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You're on a fucking impression.
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I am on a roll today.
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So Alex rambles about his feelings about religion.
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And then he gets to this where he does finally circle back to her question about the tea party.
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Yeah.
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And we can see where his head is at.
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But before that, he kind of wants you to trick your priest.
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Wait, what?
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Wait, what?
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He wants you to.
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He wants you to trick a priest?
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He wants you to fuck with your priest a little bit.
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It's very weird.
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All right.
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And we've got all these Methodist and Baptist and Southern Baptist preachers.
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Well, I mean, you saw on Catholics, Protestants, everybody at that big thing with Obama where
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he's conscripting them and he's expanding Bush's faith-based initiatives to pay off
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the churches and to be, quote, community leaders and to watch their neighborhood.
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I want to stop here real quick because there's a point that I've been meaning to make that
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I keep forgetting.
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Alex's whole thing is like the government's trying to control these preachers with their
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501c3 tax-accept status so they can't preach whatever I want them to be preaching from
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the pulpit.
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I have a very simple solution to that.
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Pay your fucking taxes.
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Why don't they pay their taxes again?
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Pay your taxes and then you could preach whatever you want.
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I really don't understand why they don't pay taxes.
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Pay your taxes and then you can get political from the bench.
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Jim Baker's paying taxes now.
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He's probably evading a lot of them, but he's not tax-exempt and that's why he can do these
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weird, we're praying for Trump broadcasts because it's a religious organization that
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is not tax-exempt.
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You could do that too, guys.
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Pay your taxes.
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Pay your fucking taxes.
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That's the only thing.
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You're not, just because you believe in something, I really don't think you should be tax-exempt.
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That sounds terrible.
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I feel like that's too complicated for us to unpack.
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No, I think it's pretty simple.
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Religion isn't real.
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Stop it.
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Pay your taxes.
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I don't necessarily want churches to be not tax-exempt because there are a lot of good
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things that they bring to society that they aren't getting paid for in terms of soup kitchen
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stuff and helping the poor, those sorts of things.
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Well, deduct it on your taxes.
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That's an interesting way to do it.
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I don't know if we need to complicate the tax code even more that way.
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For religions, I'm fine with making their lives harder.
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I tentatively support the idea of churches being tax-exempt, but if you want to preach
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patriot stuff or even if you want to preach democratic talking points from the pulpit.
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Or if you're Scientology.
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Sure.
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Any of the above.
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Pay your fucking taxes.
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Yeah.
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That's the simple solution.
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That's all you have to do.
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Not hard.
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Yeah.
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So everybody should ask their preachers or their priest or whatever, their rabbi, their
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imam.
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Are you working with the government?
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But ask it in a nice way.
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Hey, I heard a lot of preachers are working with FEMA for emergency readiness, and they
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get real weird.
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How'd you hear about that?
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You say, oh, no, I just heard.
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I want to help.
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And then if they act real suspicious, say, hey, I want you to tell me.
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But a lot of times you react friendly about it and go, oh, yeah, we're preparing to help
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America.
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So it's very, very creepy and very, very evil.
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And organized religion is basically controlled by the globalist.
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Sounds right.
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Alex, are you encouraged about the tea party?
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On Friday, it's this Friday the 27th.
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You know, I heard something about folks having their own protest demonstrations like in the
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Fed and all this other spontaneous stuff in groups, and I just think it's wonderful.
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Just more people doing more, just getting out on the streets and exercising those political
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muscles is just awesome, Susan.
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I appreciate your call, Sean, Rob, Joshua, Mike, and others.
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Alex has no idea what's going on.
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He doesn't know about the tea party.
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No clue.
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Because I don't believe, I don't think he can play anything close to the vest.
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You know, like, if he does know about it and he's, you know, on board at this point already.
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He'd be going nonstop.
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Or he wouldn't be able to feign lack of awareness of it.
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Right.
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And just be like, well, I think it's great the people are going out and protesting.
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All he knows is it's a sympathetic caller talking about these things that seem to be
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like a tax protest.
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Maybe he's heard a little bit about it and he's like, yeah, sounds good.
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Yeah.
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Have fun out there.
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Yeah, she's a plant.
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You kids.
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She's a plant for sure.
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Yeah, probably.
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I mean, we all know.
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I've been awake for three months.
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I think it was five.
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But be that as it may, yeah.
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I wrote down three.
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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You're probably right.
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Pretty sure.
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Probably right.
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Either way, too long.
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What woke her up?
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Alex probably.
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Got red pilled.
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Did she just walk by Alex Jones radio?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Or saw a link to an InfoWars.com article.
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That's possible.
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You know.
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Or she was paid by the Koch brothers to call every radio station with a sympathetic ear.
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I mean.
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And give them the exact date multiple times.
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And the website.
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Yup.
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Yeah, I mean, we know that like a lot of radio stations have fake callers.
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That's endemic.
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Yeah.
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In talk radio.
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It's part of the game.
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Yeah.
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Alex's callers are real, but that doesn't mean that he's not still susceptible to someone
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using his platform to get something else out.
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Yup.
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We've seen that a million times.
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I saw clear diction and sentence structure from that caller.
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Plant.
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Suspicious.
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So, Alex, we're in a weird mood.
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He's gonna complain about Obama a bunch more, but before he does, he starts to think about
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a movie.
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Of course, a science fiction movie.
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He's gotta talk about it.
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And when you're dying, of the bio-weapons implanted in your body, I know you're too
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mentally weak to even admit we were right then.
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You have always been weak.
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You have always been evil.
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Cool.
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And so you are with your father.
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It's what you want.
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It's what you get.
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Who did that song?
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Come to that techno from the 80s.
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This is what they want.
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Everybody?
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This is what they get.
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This is what they want.
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This is what they get.
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You can YouTube that.
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I bet you can just say, this is what they want.
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This is what they get.
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It was in a great sci-fi, low-budget B-movie.
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In this dystopic future after nuclear war, and there's a, this guy's a commando he brings
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back to his girlfriend.
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The warrior.
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What he thinks is a repair droid.
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He finds out on the wasteland.
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That's really a killer droid.
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Star Wars.
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Actually, you have stuff like that now and ends up injecting him with the chemical weapon,
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it gives you a nice hallucination of pleasure as you die and he sees the kaleidoscope things
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crawling around in his apartment.
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This is what they want.
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This is what they get.
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This is what they want.
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This is what they get.
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Get, get, get.
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You are going to get it.
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You're into death and skulls and murder and the entire thing.
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Well, don't worry.
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Those above you are even more into it and they hate you.
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They hate you as you serve them.
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And they're afraid of you.
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Sure.
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And so they're going to fly over you and spray you with the 2009 equivalent of agent orange,
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the DU.
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You're going to breathe it and you're going to love it.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Some of the news, you know, here's that.
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I love that.
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They're going to kill you all, but it'll make you feel pleasurable for the end.
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Anyways, get into the news.
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Let's get to Steve on the weather.
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What's all that?
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What's in the headlines?
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All right, Alex.
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I don't think they're spraying depleted uranium, but whatever.
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Can you spray depleted uranium?
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Do you got to liquefy it first?
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Not sure.
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All right.
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Didn't look into that one.
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Didn't look into that?
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I decided to reject it.
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Whole cloth.
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Okay.
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I don't think it trails enough to know that I don't think that's one of it.
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Even in the weirdest conspiracies, I don't think it's depleted.
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Do you know it's crazy though?
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Have you ever seen it?
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Have you ever seen a crop duster?
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Like someone farting on your desk?
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And then walking away?
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It's moments like that.
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It's moments like that that make me wonder if this show would work so much better if
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Alex had a co-host, you know, to bounce things off of because if he's doing that, like there's
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what they want.
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There's what they get.
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What was that movie?
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The other guy could come in and be like, well, it was actually flatliners or whatever the
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fuck.
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Flatliners?
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I don't know.
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So you could have somebody to at least bounce things off of.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I totally get you.
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The problem is that whenever Alex has anybody subordinate to him, like Jason Burmas or something
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like that, someone like that in studio, he just steamrolls them.
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It would have had to have started way before.
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Like before, now that he's like in 2009, there's no way he could adjust to a co-host.
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Or it'd have to be someone who he has like a pre-existing respect for, like a Mike Adams
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or something like that.
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I think he could have the authority, the status to cock Alex a little bit or contain him.
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Time travel.
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We're going to book this.
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We're talking major league era Charlie Sheen.
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Toss him in there.
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He could have used that victory.
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Not sure that Charlie would want that back then.
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Hey, but I'm just saying that we would never have had two and a half men.
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Wouldn't have had to deal with it.
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Major league three.
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Never would have had to.
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I don't think he was in major league three.
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Was he in the second one?
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He was definitely in the second one.
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Okay.
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I don't know if he was.
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He was definitely in the second one.
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Oh, he was.
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You're right.
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Yeah.
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He came out of the bullpen in the second one.
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It was very important.
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It was a big redemption arc for him.
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There's a lot of other stuff we wouldn't have.
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So at this point, my friend Alex has a guest.
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It is a continuation of all of his state senators and state representatives coming in to talk
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about the 10th amendment stuff.
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Cool.
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Excellent.
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He's an Oklahoma state senator.
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I believe might've been a rep by the name of Randy Brogdon.
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That's the most Oklahoma state senator name you could ever have gotten.
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This guy is not cool.
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Most of his career is just like 10th amendment type state sovereignty activity and things
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like that.
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He sounds like he was created by the DARE program.
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What do you mean?
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Keep kids off drugs?
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Yeah.
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No, he has another agenda.
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But keep kids on drugs.
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420.
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Yeah.
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So the thing is towards the more recent past, he's shown a bit of his wild streak, his wild
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feathers.
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I don't remember what the...
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You're making the wrong expression.
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Now we're trying to get colloquialisms in here.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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He's shown his true colors.
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Okay.
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There you go.
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So in 2015, Randy Brogdon called GOP executive director for Oklahoma TC Ryan a kind and outstanding
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young man.
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This would not be too upsetting except that TC Ryan, Brogdon was saying this after Ryan
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was forced to step down from his position after he pled guilty to charges of domestic
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assault and battery in the presence of a minor child as well as interference with an emergency
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telephone call.
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Brogdon said Ryan was being, quote, dragged through the mud and that those critical of
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him, quote, should not be casting the first stone.
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The ironic part of that is Brogdon was...
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That guy was arrested for dragging his wife through the mud.
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See, I was hoping...
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Literally...
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I was hoping to find a police report so I could actually get the specifics of it or
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anything like that, but I wasn't able to find that.
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Yeah, it is like, hey, don't use that sort of language when you're talking about someone
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who beat his wife in front of his kid.
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So also...
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I'll just tell you right now, he is really punching up.
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I will just tell you right now, this man here, he's tossing a baseball real hard at a person.
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So also in 2015, Brogdon put in a five-month shift, and I'm gonna call it a shift because
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it wasn't a tenure, as the Oklahoma Republican Party chairman, which ended in him resigning
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in what normal people might call disgrace.
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Party became a little uncomfortable with him after he made a post on the official GOP Party
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Facebook account where he compared giving people food stamps to feeding animals in national
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parks.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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Cool, dude.
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Cool.
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This could possibly be written off as a little slip-up, were it not for the fact that during
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a debate about the Affordable Care Act, Brogdon, quote, asked the Black Caucus of Oklahoma
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state legislature...
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This isn't gonna end well.
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The health care mandate would also require people to eat fried chicken.
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That's so racist, it's hilarious.
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That is a...
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That is not...
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That's self-parody of racism.
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It's confusingly racist.
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It's so racist...
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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Hold on.
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What do you mean by that?
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That's nuts.
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Is the SNAP program...
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Is that function for Popeyes?
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Is that what he's asking?
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You got watermelon in those school programs?
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Yeah.
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What are you doing?
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What?
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What?
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So I can't confirm this, but from the site I looked at that was going over this, apparently
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he refused to apologize for that too, which is like ballsy.
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Now, I'm on both the...
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I'm on the don't apologize for it, because come on, man.
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You said it.
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Don't apologize.
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You still mean it.
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You're not gonna lose any traction with the people who already support you.
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Yeah.
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So also in 2018, Brogdon reflected on how he had helped implement legislation that required
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women seeking abortions to be told that they could see ultrasounds and heart monitors of
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the fetus.
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In effect, attempting to terrorize women into keeping unwanted pregnancies.
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He lamented that this had not ended abortion in Oklahoma and repented for his sins and
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left the pro-life camp.
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I'm guessing there's a turn here.
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And then he became what he liked to call an abortion abolitionist, seeking to completely
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outlaw abortion.
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Great.
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Great.
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Perfect.
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Love it.
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Love it.
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That's the twist.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, he was like, when we were doing this pro-life stuff, what I realized is what
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we were really doing is trying to regulate abortion when I should just be saying no women,
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you cannot.
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Yeah.
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Which is cool.
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Great.
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He should just be saying no women.
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Yeah.
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Also in April 2018, it came out that Randy Brogdon was the executive director of a super
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PAC called Citizens for Free States, which had funneled at least $24,000 into the gubernatorial
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campaign of a pastor named Dan Fisher.
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It's too complicated to get into now, but suffice it to say, Fisher is also an abortion
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abolitionist and swore to make it his first order of business to outlaw all abortion and
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make any such services inaccessible to women in Oklahoma.
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Sounds like he's probably dragged someone through the mud as well.
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Also, Fisher is known to preach at his church wearing a Continental Army uniform, which
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looks exactly- At least people are cartoons.
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It looks exactly- It's a cartoon.
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It looks exactly as silly as it sounds.
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I saw a couple of pictures.
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He's trying to bring back what he calls the Black Robe Regiment, which was a group of
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preachers in the Revolutionary War era who preached to their congregation that they should
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join the efforts against the British.
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To that I say, again, there's literally nothing stopping you from doing exactly that if you
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just pay your taxes.
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So you could do that, no problem.
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It's weird how he can muster up $25,000 to give to a monster's campaign, but boy, paying
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taxes is hard, Dan.
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Sure.
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Although it remains to be proven, given Brogdon and Fisher's connections, their shared fringe
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ideology, the fact that Brogdon endorsed Fisher when he ran for state representative in 2012,
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the fact that they're friends, it's unrealistic to think that they didn't coordinate a little
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on Fisher's gubernatorial run, which would be a very serious FEC violation.
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Probably not worth looking into, though, since he only got 7.9% of the votes in the Republican
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primary and is out of the running.
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What a waste of $24,000.
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Never going to get that 24 grand back.
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I could use that 24 grand.
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Brogdon, hit up your boy.
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Yeah, I'm sure he'd support our show.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, that's a little bit of fun about this Wing Ding, and I don't want to listen
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to most of his appearance, because it's very similar to other 10th Amendment dicks who
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he's had on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so I only have one clip here, because it's fucking hilarious.
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Alex is complaining more about Obama's speech, and Brogdon says this, quite a scathing review
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of Obama's speech.
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It was probably one of the most sophomoric speeches I've ever heard in my life.
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If you compare it to the Constitution, if you compare it to the founders of this great
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nation.
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All right.
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So, like, what are we talking?
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Grammar?
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Mm?
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What are we, like, if you compare it to the Constitution, this speech is sophomoric.
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This speech is nothing compared to the founding document of our country.
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Seems like you're setting the bar a little high.
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You know what?
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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The Constitution?
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A bit of a snooze.
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Not a great read.
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Not a great read.
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Doesn't bring out the emotion.
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Like the Declaration of Independence?
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Maybe you can toss that in there.
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That would have been a great speech, but come on, man.
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Yeah.
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Those amendments are boring.
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They're a little dry.
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Yeah!
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A little dry.
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Nothing much going on there.
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No.
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So, yeah, I just think that's really funny, though.
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It's a sophomoric speech.
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That's what you expect to hear from somebody, and then when you compare it to the Constitution,
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it's like, just stop.
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Okay.
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Just stop.
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All right.
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Let's compare it to an Oscar speech.
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How about that?
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Was it a pretty good one?
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It's a push.
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It's a push?
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Yeah.
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So, after this, Alex has another guest on.
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There's a guy named F. William Engdahl.
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You ever heard of this gentleman?
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No.
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Okay.
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No.
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Pass.
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Hard pass.
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Not going to listen to too much of him, but because he's sort of new to our scope, it
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bears getting into, who is this guy?
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So F. William Engdahl is a political and economic writer, or at least that's how he would like
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to describe himself.
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The rest of the world might use different terms, Jordan.
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Yes.
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Engdahl has been published dating back to at least 2014 by the New Eastern Outlook, the
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foreign propaganda front we encountered a couple episodes back, which is run by the
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Russian Academy of Sciences.
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He's published almost exclusively anti-U.S. stories, and many that followed the exact
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line that Russia puts out about how they're the good guy in Ukraine, including this headline,
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quote, Soros as Kiev's central banker.
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He even wrote an article in 2015 titled, quote, Why I Wept at the Russian Parade.
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Here's an excerpt.
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Quote, my tears at seeing the silent marchers and seeing Putin amid them was an unconscious
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reaction to what, on reflection, I realized was my very personal sense of recognition.
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How remote from anything comparable in my own country, the United States of America,
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such a memorial march in peace and serenity would be today.
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Whoa.
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Oh, boy.
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Pretty indicative of his his writing that I've read.
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Yeah.
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Not really a writer so much as a sycophant.
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Very strongly in line with the Putin government stance on issues, a lot of Ukraine stuff.
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Even if I loved somebody, I'm not going to write like that about them.
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But if they're paying you.
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I mean, like I would like late period Robert F. Kennedy.
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I'd still be like, man, he was it was it was a good speech a couple weeks ago.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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So also, Engdahl is on the advisory board of Veterans Today, which is largely just a
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propaganda outpost, one that notably reposts tons of articles from New Eastern Outlook
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to the point where some have speculated that their partnership represented an intentional
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effort to indoctrinate the armed forces.
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What?
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Engdahl has also been a writer for Alexander Dugan's publication Kataihon since at least
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2016.
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Perhaps more importantly, Engdahl works for the Center for Research on Globalization,
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a Canada-based think tank run by Mikhail Shostavsky.
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In 2017, the Center for Research on Globalization was specifically named by the NATO Strategic
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Communications Center, which is where their information warfare specialists work, as a
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website that served as, quote, a key accelerant role in helping popularize articles with little
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basis in fact that also happened to fit the narratives being pushed by the Kremlin.
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They further described it as, quote, a link in the concerted effort to undermine the credibility
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of mainstream Western media, as well as the North American and European public's trust
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in government and public institutions.
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Right.
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Right.
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This guy, F. William Engdahl, his career is just a laundry list of working at conspiracy
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outlets and Russian propaganda depots.
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In other words, he is a very normal Alex Jones guest.
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Yeah.
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He is.
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Do you think he's like a like, listen, when you're a writer just starting out, it's tough
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to get a gig.
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Right.
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So maybe he just answered answered an ad or something like that.
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Do you think he's just do you think he's just a jobber?
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Do you think if somebody like on Boris's list?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If somebody is if somebody in the American government was like, hey, we'll give you what
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do you want to raise?
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What do you just jump over and be like, cool, America's the best now?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't think so.
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I would assume not.
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The fact that he cried at a military parade.
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Yeah, but he didn't really cry.
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Yeah, probably.
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Either that or like his contacts were dry.
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Yeah, it could be.
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I don't know.
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I don't know enough about his like early, early career to know at what point did this
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pivot happen.
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But I don't know.
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I think I think probably.
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Yeah, you could buy him.
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Probably not now, though.
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That's the thing is like a lot of these propagandists have made their bed.
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You know, like, yeah, it would have to be very difficult to buy a lot of them now because
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there's too much track that they've laid.
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Right.
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You'd have to have something to undo.
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You're right.
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You'd have to have some sort of like a lot of money and a foundational moment that they
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could use to pivot the rhetoric.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's what's so important.
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But there's a redemption arc for everybody.
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Right.
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But you still need to have some sort of.
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He could have shown up in the comedy salary.
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Could be.
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Had a little speech about how Putin's not that great after all.
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We welcome him back with open arms.
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Did a solid 45.
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Goo.
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So anyway, here is Alex talking to F. William Engdahl.
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This gives a stark prediction that did not come to pass.
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And then Engdahl says something Alex shouldn't agree with.
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Because I know a lot of big money and I know people that know a lot of big money.
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I mean, billionaires that live in Austin have houses in New York and other places.
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They've all been leaving the last three years.
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And you know, I've from corporate lawyers and other people I know, you know, they're
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saying, quote, America won't exist by 2010.
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And so they're literally taking their billions and building armored compounds in, you know,
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the islands of the Caribbean and in the Cook Islands.
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And they're literally building bunkers.
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I mean, what do they think they've done?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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At a certain place, at a certain point, there's no real place to hide.
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You know, this affects everybody.
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You can't live on another planet.
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So.
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So what do they think they've done that they're evacuating?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I read you.
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I think they realize that they're going to be some very, very angry citizens who are
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going to wake up and say, wait a minute, how did the head of Citibank accumulate a billion
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dollars as president of a bank?
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How haven't we done this right now?
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How many fraudulent predatory loans did he push on people who couldn't even write their
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own name but were told they would get a dream house if they just put an X on a piece of
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paper?
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Hey, man.
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Regulation, boy.
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Sounds like a good idea.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Either that or the other part of his speech, which is that we rise up and murder them in
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their redoubts.
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All of the stuff that F. William Engdahl is saying there is like the stuff that people
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I see much more on the left saying.
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Yeah.
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No, I agree with everything you just said right there.
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Yeah.
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Except for the facts that they've built fortresses.
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Right.
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Right.
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I mean, I assume some of them have built fortresses.
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And then shitty prediction that the United States won't exist in, what, eight months,
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10 months from when he was appointed?
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Well, yeah.
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But there's a black president.
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Right.
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So that was up in the air.
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That was a 50-50 shot at that point.
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That's fair.
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That's fair.
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From their viewpoint, I see where they're coming from.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So, so disgusting to like to see like, oh, that's probably coloring a lot of their opinions,
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especially on an episode where he has a state rep on who asked if fried chicken was going
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to be mandatory in the Affordable Care Act.
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Yeah, it's almost like the Republican Party has always been this racist.
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Oh, yeah, man.
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Weird.
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But they just, now they just feel emboldened or empowered to talk like they're racist all
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the time.
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And you know what else, too?
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Like, I think that everybody gave people way too like wide of birth because you don't hear
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stories about like Randy Brogdon.
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No.
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Like, you don't hear anything about state representatives unless you lived in Oklahoma.
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You might have heard that stuff.
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Right.
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Right.
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So every single Alex Jones guest that he has, all these 10th Amendment state reps and state
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senators that come on, you scratch a little bit beneath the surface like, oh my God, racist.
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What the fuck did you say?
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Yep.
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And I have to assume that you do that with the people who aren't on Alex's show.
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I bet there's a lot of them who have been just as awful.
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Well, I mean, the Florida race for fucking what is it?
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It's governor.
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Yeah.
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No, it's not governor, is it?
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The one that's going on now?
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Yeah, between the mayor and the racist.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's going on.
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That's a governor race.
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That's a governor race, right?
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That's a really fascinating thing for me because this reminds me of shit that my dad and my
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family would say where it's like, OK, well, would you vote for this guy?
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He's clearly and obviously a racist.
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They'd be like, no, I just wouldn't vote.
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So it's like, oh, so you would passively allow him to be governor so you could wash your
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hands of it, as opposed to actually stopping a Nazi from being elected.
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Boy, there's some sort of corollary there.
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It's almost like that kind of thinking contributed to the rise of the Nazis.
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It's almost like there's that that quotation that everybody on the right fetishizes the
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like all it takes for evil to succeed in the world is good men doing nothing.
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Yeah, that's similar.
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Nothing.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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You know, you don't want to you don't want a Nazi to be governor, but you don't want
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to stop a Nazi from being governor.
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You know, a strange thought.
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You don't want the Nazi to be governor, but but why should there be a but why is there
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a but shouldn't there be a let's stop the Nazi from being the governor?
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Maybe now.
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But don't worry about it.
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It's Florida.
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I'm sure they'll make the right decision.
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So, Jordan, we have one more clip from the twenty fifth year.
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Yeah.
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So in it, I think, Alex, I don't think he realizes how much he could be talking to his
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future self.
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I believe that he is very present about something that's going to happen to him.
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This clip made me like have to pause the episode when it happened, just like I had to absorb
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that shit.
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So enjoy.
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And the military and the police and the bureaucracy start talking about arresting people and grand
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juries do.
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We can stop them.
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We can fix the bleeding.
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But I know you're into a power trip and you've just got to be destroyed and so fine.
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Just just at least know you did it to yourself.
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I mean, that's the most important thing here is that is that in the end, you repent of
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what you've done.
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That's what life's all about.
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Just you've been suckered by the New World Order, sold by the mind control experts, servants
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of evil out there.
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And you think you're part of the pet puppies, the chosen ones will be protected.
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You're not.
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And you're going to have to experience this now.
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And good people, even though we fought against it, we're going to experience it, too.
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This is the bankers having their way with us.
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We're going to come back and take calls here in just a moment.
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I did want to take some time out to thank our sponsors like efoods direct dot com.
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Proto Ed Pivot.
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The idea of like when everything goes wrong, just know you did this to yourself.
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That's something I would say to Alex right now.
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No.
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Yeah.
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The circumstances that he finds himself in, I'm like, hey, Alex, you did this to yourself.
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That was jarring.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That was very jarring.
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Yeah.
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Not least of which to the part where he's like, you think you're one of the protected
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ones.
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You think Trump is going to stop you from getting kicked off Facebook.
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You think like he could be more specific about this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, everything you've been suckered in by this globalist brainwashing just replaced
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the propaganda narratives that have been fed to him over his life about the globalist.
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The bankers are getting what they want and you have been conned.
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Yeah.
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And you're complicit to a certain extent.
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So Alex, all I ask is that you take your own advice and repent, because that is what life
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is all about.
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Anyway.
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I don't think that's what it's all about.
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No, it's about the hokey pokey.
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Turn yourself around.
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Oh, I thought it was bounce houses.
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No, bounce houses are great though.
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Yeah.
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I think I'm too big for them though.
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Makes me sad.
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I need a huge one.
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Anyway, let's move on, Jordan.
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We need 30 more policy warmups and then we can rent Dan the biggest bounce house you've
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ever seen.
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Stretch goal.
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So Jordan, we're moving on to the 26th of February here and we're going to enter a little
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bit of an Oklahoma City situation here.
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But this next clip is one of the things that I have something very specific to say on the
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other side of this.
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And I just think it's a stupid clip, but it's stupider for another reason.
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And I'll get to that in a second.
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Majority of US states joined sovereignty movement, assert 10th amendment rights.
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Now the last time 14 states passed this in 94, 95, the feds bombed Oklahoma City and
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it's an absolute fact they did.
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An absolute fact they blew that building.
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And guess who was deputy attorney general at the time, Eric Holder.
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So he's heavily trying to imply that Eric Holder did Oklahoma City.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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You know?
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I buy it.
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And so all I can say to that is no, like, you know, I will take the contrary position
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and it's up to him to prove it.
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You know, like these specific things, when we have these narratives and these overarching
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things that Alex talks about, be it Oklahoma City or 9-11, he'll use, like they'll just
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say, ah, it's a false flag in this case, they blew up the building, Eric Holder is complicit
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in it, he was involved.
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I can't do anything with that.
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I can only do something with specific pieces that he's going to bring out.
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And so I'm not going to sit here and go through literally every piece of information that
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could be involved in Alex's possible conspiracy theory about Oklahoma City.
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I can't debunk this nonsense.
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Did you see that on that day, Eric Holder was photographed walking out of the Oklahoma
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City building?
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Someone else was seen there.
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Yeah.
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But OK, then let's add this other bit of evidence there.
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And it doesn't necessarily correlate.
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But did you see that Eric Holder was walking out of the book depository on 11 1963?
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I heard about that.
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Yeah.
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Look, I mean, that's that's an intrinsic problem.
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Did you see that he was walking out of the opera house?
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Sure.
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Yep.
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He's a time traveling murderer is what I'm saying.
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Yeah, he was hobbling from jumping off.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So look, the only reason I bring this up is like, I love trying to find out what he's
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talking about and where he's lying.
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And when things like this happen, it leads me on wild goose chases, because I end up
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trying to look into what he's talking about and I find like, oh, maybe this is it.
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And then I go down this path and like, oh, this is nonsense.
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But what if it's not what he's talking about?
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So then I'm like, well, let's see if there's other possibilities.
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And then I end up spending seven hours reading bullshit that has nothing to do with what
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he may or may not be talking about.
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So we had that one time that he talked about Oklahoma City, he talked about Terrence Yakey,
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the police officer who ended up committing suicide from survivor's grief and all that.
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I was able to get in.
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Or was he murdered by Eric Holder?
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It could have been.
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So I was able to dig into that and we were able to talk about that because it's a specific
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he uses.
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In this case, just implying that Eric Holder was involved isn't good enough for me.
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So I had this and it ruined a couple of days for me because I'm going down fucking wild
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goose chases about his nonsense.
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I love that.
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I love that rhetorical technique as well.
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Like it's a guarantee that the government bombed that city.
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It was the government.
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We can prove it.
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And you know who was the librarian at the time?
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Totally.
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It's as good of a theory.
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Exactly.
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Who might have been in office as involved.
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That's weak shit.
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So the other thing I need to bring up is that I did a disservice to our audience and I only
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realized it after going down all these fucking stupid roads.
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So on our episode that we talked about with Anders Breivik, I mentioned that Alex had
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a DHS report that they were concerned that more white people could be terrorists.
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This is an unfortunate instance where I took Alex at his word.
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They didn't even have that report?
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I didn't look into what he was talking about and I have since found out what he's talking
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about.
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What Alex is talking about is not a report by the Department of Homeland Security.
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It is a PSA that they put out or a video that they put out that has a bunch of people who
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are presented as terrorists advising people, hey, keep your eyes open.
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There's things afoot.
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There's a dangerous world.
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We could use your help in terms of being eyes and ears, which I'm slightly uncomfortable
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with, but I understand why a society would be like, hey, it's either this or I don't
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know what we do.
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If you see something white, say something white.
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But here's the thing.
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They aren't saying that white people are terrorists.
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Alex watched.
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I am.
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Alex watched that video and he thought, huh, too many white people being presented as terrorists
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in this video.
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It's not that they are commissioned a report or anything like nobody did a shit ton of
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research and there's no statistical thing he's going off of is a video that he watched
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where he thought on his own subjective basis that there were too many white people being
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presented as terrorists and he doesn't agree with that.
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So it made me realize that a lot of these times when Alex is bringing up a kernel of
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evidence, I end up chasing it and it doesn't exist.
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It's in his head.
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It's just his subjective experience of the world is like the DHS is saying that white
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people are terrorists.
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You think that because of your experience of watching this video.
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Right.
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I can't do anything with it.
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It's like it's like when what was it?
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Was it was it maybe like Laura Bush?
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They put out that like, oh, shit, now I can't remember it specifically, but it's it's this
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thing that is like anti pornography and it was like, oh, you see women wearing these
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skirts and they're like 16 and you're like, nobody's sexualizing that, but you that's
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all you're the one who's doing that.
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You realize that.
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So nobody is insisting that these people are saying that all whites are terrorists other
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than Alex, who's like, well, yeah, I mean, all whites are terrorists.
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So I got to fight against that thought.
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He's appealing to the authority of his own experience of watching that video.
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And that's a really troubling thing that I realized about this world that we're studying,
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because, man, I can't study that right.
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I can't study how he experiences things until he reveals on the show that that's what he's
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talking about.
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Right.
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And so it's just it's weird.
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It's really weird to have this two years in this kernel that I probably should have considered
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long ago, the idea like, huh, a lot of his primary sources might be him really just ramping
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up something he thought.
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Yeah.
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And that's not good.
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What's even more concerning is that the reason that neither of us were even considering looking
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into it is because we were both immediately like, oh, yeah, that report exists.
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I could see it.
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Yeah.
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Even if that report doesn't exist, it probably should.
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I could see it like, yeah, the reason I never felt the interest in looking into it specifically
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is that like for on a gut level, I kind of just assumed like, well, yeah, it makes sense
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that like, I mean, even if you just consider the idea of like the rising right wing tide,
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the militias, the Patriot movement.
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And then you fold into that like environmental terrorism, which is a big issue, right.
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And largely white people.
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So if you if you include those two things, it would make sense for people who were trying
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to keep an eye out for terrorism to warn or to put out some sort of a statement or paper
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white paper that said something like that, you know, it would make sense.
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I'm just when I hear Alex say something like that, I don't think, oh, this is your experience
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of watching a video.
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I assume you're misrepresenting something that probably exists.
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And it's always been so secondary to things that we're talking about that I've never saw
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fit to actually like buckle down, find the document.
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And now I realize I couldn't find that document if I wanted to based on his rhetoric.
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It's just in his head.
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Well, the other thing that makes it obvious is there are just more white people.
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True.
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Like statistically, if you go by demographics, it's like whether or not the ratio is right.
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Like there are a lot of murders in Chicago, but statistically, that's because there's
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a fuck ton of people in Chicago.
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Right.
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You know, like that kind of simple argument.
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Right.
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Who's most likely to kidnap a child?
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That's the person that's known because they know you, you know, because they're around
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all the time.
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Right.
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Like it's a it's a simple statistical argument.
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah.
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I buy it.
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Yep.
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So that's all to say I can't do shit with him saying that they blew up Oklahoma City.
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I could sit here and give you all the evidence of all of the like time stamped bills of Timothy
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McVeigh buying all the materials and stuff like that.
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But go watch a fucking documentary or look into it, because everything I could tell you
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enforces and re strengthens basically the main narrative of the Oklahoma City story.
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Yeah.
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I think that there have been grand juries that have looked into it.
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There have been investigations into it.
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Every piece of stuff that is like, well, what about this is flimsy.
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Everything is circumstantial.
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There's not much to it.
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So I don't want to sit here and tell you, like, read six pages of fucking text where
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I just tell you here's exactly what happened.
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But that went through the legal system, Dan.
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And do you know who is deputy attorney general at the time?
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Globalists.
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No, it was Eric Holder.
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Yeah.
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So I can't I can't do shit with that.
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We'll see if he eventually comes up with a specific that we can look into.
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I don't know if he will.
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Maybe he will.
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Maybe he won't.
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But before we get into any of that, Alex wants to talk about how much he loves guns.
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Now, if you don't, you are basically a house slave.
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Oh, buddy.
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Oh, man.
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You know who loves it?
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You know who hates guns?
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People who like fried chick.
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Christ.
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A citizen sees cops in paramilitary black mass with submachine guns and they go, oh,
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I feel so safe.
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Oh, yes.
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Oh, oh.
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Well, that's vaguely racist.
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But they see another slave with a gun, they're like, you're a slave, you're not supposed
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to have a weapon.
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They're just like black house slaves in the United States.
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Two hundred years ago, if they saw a slave with even a knife or a mallet or a hickory
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stick or any type of weapon, they would run in and say, the slave, the slave's got a weapon,
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the slave, the slave's got a weapon.
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You are delegated, you are domesticated, you are cowardly, you will be usurped, you will
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be enslaved, you will be robbed, you'll be nailed to the wall until you actually grow
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up and be men and women out there.
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Every day I see articles where a woman calls 911, I saw one just this weekend where a woman
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called 911, it took the police 15 minutes to get there and by the time they got there,
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she was murdered.
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I mean, somebody starts busting in my house, my wife just goes the instant access pistol
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safe that's in three rooms.
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She has the revolver in seconds and she just relaxes calmly, points at the center of mass
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and opens fire until the firearm's discharged.
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That's not good.
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No, and he was married to Kelly at this point.
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I'm not sure that Kelly would be, based on everything I've gleaned from her, I don't
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think that she would be chill about shooting somebody as Alex is presenting.
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It doesn't seem like she's exactly the same sort of like, oh yeah, I'm just going to calmly
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aim at the center of mass and discharge.
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That's fucked up, even more fucked up, listen to how Alex explains what he would do when
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an intruder comes.
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Oh no, I don't want to know.
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Somebody starts coming to my house, I just call me like a robot, go get the firearm,
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that's how you got to do it and just relax, take a deep breath and just open fire.
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Open fire.
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He's doing that voice, that voice that he does.
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I don't like any of this.
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Like a robot, I dissociate and grab a gun.
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See here's a big issue.
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With gun control, I don't like how people who have guns think.
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No.
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That's not good.
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That's a bad way to think about life.
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It's not all of the people who have guns, but it seems like it's pretty consistent within
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people who love guns.
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You know, that sort of, the idea that he's saying, I want a reason to use my gun to kill
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a person.
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That's problematic.
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I just want a reason.
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Just give me a reason to kill a human.
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That's troubling.
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Then even, like a robot, I grab a gun.
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That sort of description to me is like, don't grab that gun, robot.
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Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's fine.
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Like someone who no longer has empathy for other human beings, I grab a gun and intentionally
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try to kill them.
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I dissociate.
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You know, like a good person and definitely not at all like what I imagine a serial killer
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does.
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Beep bop boop.
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Boom, boom, boom.
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I think a robot would actually be more, uh, more safe.
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RoboCop didn't even kill that one lady.
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He shot her through the skirt and hit that guy in the dick.
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RoboCop had good aim.
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He doesn't aim for center mass.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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Jordan, this next clip starts literally right after Alex said, uh, like a robot, I grab
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a gun and aim.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This clip is super fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I'm shocked.
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After he said that he is fine with killing a human being, he then says something fucked
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up.
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But it's, it's not even like really connected.
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I don't think it's, it's, it's a, it's a jarring jump that he's making.
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Okay.
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You know that woman with that, uh, chimpanzee, that 200 pounder, you know, a hundred pound
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chimp is as strong as a 500 pound man in shape.
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What does that even look like 200 pounder?
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That means it had the strength of a thousand pound man with a 2% body fat.
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That's not how that was.
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Ripped her nose off, ripped her eyes out, ripped her face off.
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Of course it was on a psychotropic always.
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What?
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It's not normal.
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No, it's totally normal.
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You can't even have them after like five or something.
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No pills for monkeys.
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That's a good idea.
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Every mass shooter we've seen has been on it.
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Every case has been on it.
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I talk a lot of police when they pull up in a house in Houston or whatever and a naked
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woman's dancing on a roof, slice her breast off with butcher knives or a woman cuts her
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baby's arms off or drives her kids in the water.
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They're always on it.
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Uh, always, uh, because it's a hallucinogen and you know, you may have two or three years
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of good trips, folks, putting you in a dream, but you're going to have that bad trip.
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And then it, you have to pass your brain and triggers to the serotonin reuptake inhibitor
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system, uh, huge imbalances and then aggression hormones flood the brain.
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Well, I would say you're being really unfair and really, uh, very closed minded.
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I'm going to go with nonsensical as well.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that, uh, it wants to, if you're coming in with like, it affects the serotonin
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reuptake inhibitor system, it's like, well, that's the class of drugs.
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It's this, you know, it's the serotonin.
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Apple invented that, right?
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That's suri.
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Serotonin inhibitors are the drugs, not a part of your brain.
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So he's, he's just grasping at straws, trying to demonize the idea of psych meds and shit
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like that, which is super evil.
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It's really bad.
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I mean, it's really smart if you're a person with paranoid schizophrenia who is terrified
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of getting any kind of medication for it.
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I only know that I'm famous because I'm unmedicated.
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That's kind of true.
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If I were, if I took care of myself, I would not believe in these apparitions I call globalists.
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It's probably true.
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Yeah, yeah, probably.
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And he would, you know, has to know on some, I don't know if he knows on a, like an active
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level, but he must know on some level that if he advocated wellbeing for his listeners
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and advocated for them seeking the help that they actually needed, they would often drift
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from him.
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Oh yeah, of course.
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They would feel better about life.
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They would understand, oh, I shouldn't listen to this guy who's just trying to make me scared
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all the time.
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There's so many people who go off their meds love more than somebody who doesn't take meds.
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That's kind of a running theme with our kind.
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Manic demagoguery is very attractive to people who are unmedicated, who need medication.
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Yeah.
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Not everybody does.
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That's just because we're so pro medication, let's say, I think we should, it behooves
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us to say not everybody needs it, but a lot of people do.
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah.
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I'm fine with that.
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Yeah.
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I don't, I don't believe in a world where everyone must be diagnosed and put on a regimen,
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but I do believe that everyone should take care of themselves.
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It's probably a good idea.
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Yeah.
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That's why we don't have as many listeners as he does.
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Yeah, probably.
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Well, we do now.
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And because we don't do shit like this, we don't do shit like this where he scares people
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with terrible predictions.
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If just the listeners of this show would take my films and make a hundred copies a piece
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has a lot of road to tyranny or terror storm or the Obama deception and give those to others
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with a note.
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Copyright infringement, by the way, please make copies and pay this forward, pass this
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on.
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We would bring these people down, but we've only, I think got six months to a year before
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they stage another huge terror attack, we are in a race.
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So six months, he already said America's probably not going to exist in 2010, which again, 10
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months from now, six months, maybe a year from now.
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We got another big one coming, didn't happen.
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So I don't know.
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I would say his gut assessment of stuff is pretty terrible.
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It's usually wrong.
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Yeah.
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It's not great.
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No.
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He should probably not trust his gut anymore.
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No, he should probably get on Activa or some of those probiotic yogurts.
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Is that a good idea?
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Clean up the gut.
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I'm going to go with a lot of the health benefits to those are over-exaggerated, Dan.
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Yeah, you need that good bacteria.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Love it.
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Love it more.
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Love it.
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Take probiotics.
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It fights antibiotics.
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I used to drink that a liquid yogurt, uh, uh, from Dannon, it was called Go-Gurt.
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No, it was called Dan active.
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And I, uh, active.
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You can't help but drink that.
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I made a big deal.
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It was made for you.
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I made a big deal out of like, this is me active drink a little yogurt shot.
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That is terrible.
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Yeah.
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It was pretty bad.
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Sounds disgusting.
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I was in college.
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I was having fun.
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So
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Yeah.
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That's the most people's story.
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Yeah.
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My freshman year, dude, I just went all in on that drinkable yogurt.
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That happened to have my name in it.
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I was so desperate for a personality.
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I latched onto Dan active yogurt.
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Yeah.
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Something like that.
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Oh, that's a regular college experience.
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So, but in college, I learned a lot from textbooks as I did in elementary school, junior high
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high school.
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But I would like to point out that Alex has a different version of the world.
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He's used textbooks a little bit differently.
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In the last six months, we posted, I think three different textbooks that are being used
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in middle school and high school with the names, with the blow up saying world government,
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the bankers will rule you.
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They know best.
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Second amendment is evil.
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Carbon taxes are wonderful.
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And so just Google textbook covers new world order or textbook covers chemtrails.
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There's a bunch of textbooks.
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They teach high school students.
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The government is spraying an aerosol in the air to form clouds to protect you from solar
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radiation because the ozone layers dead and, and, you know, so, so see for the children
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that time magazine for kids that they get out free in most public schools, I said in
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two issues that we know of your parents are backwards.
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It literally says in foolish, they don't know the future and how great it is to get a chip,
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but you're trendy and awesome.
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I mean, sir, it is like a science fiction nightmare dystopia.
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I had to cut this clip off, but after this, Alex gets into like highlights for kids and
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he's like, highlights for kids.
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He's like, they, they pull this dichotomy between Goofus and Galant and I'm saying they're
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the same guy.
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What?
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No, he doesn't.
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Oh, okay.
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But he might as well.
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That sounds very close to reality.
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Might as fucking well.
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Except for the Goofus and Galant reference.
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Now that I think about it, there's no way that he's a, he's on that tip.
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I was like, why are they complaining about Goofus?
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He seems pretty cool.
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Um, look, the, the, the issue that I have with this as a plan by the globalists is like,
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if you're trying to change the minds of kids, textbooks and time magazine for children,
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I didn't know there was a time magazine for children.
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I don't know if there is either.
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I didn't fact check that, but that's not the way to do it.
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Cause they don't give a shit.
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They want to run around to the park.
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Who's the time magazine for children man of the year or person of the year, probably cause
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it was sexist magazine.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Only since 1999 child person of the year, as opposed to boy of the year, I don't know.
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It was always Richie Cunningham.
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It was always Richie Cunningham.
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Couldn't come up with Ron Howard's character from Andy Griffith.
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I tried, I tried.
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I couldn't come up with it.
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No, I'm not pulling that.
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That isn't happening.
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That's the best I got.
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That's all you got?
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Yup.
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Uh, what was the name of the drunk?
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Is it Otis?
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The town drunk?
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Sure.
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All right.
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Wait, there was a town drunk in that?
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Yeah.
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Andy Griffith.
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Wasn't that like a family show?
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Yeah, but one of the main characters was a town drunk.
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Was just a town drunk?
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Yeah.
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He was always sleeping it off in a lockup.
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Cause Andy Griffith was the town like sheriff.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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There was the lovable town drunk.
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That seems really odd now in retrospect.
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Well, it's because back then there was the barber, there was the sheriff, there was the
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boy.
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And then, Oh, of course the lovable town drunk.
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Who's always in prison.
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Well, yeah, but well, jail, I apologize for using county for the lockup for the night.
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He's sleeping at all.
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Why don't they get him into a program now?
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They're enablers.
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Andy Griffith is a bad guy in the show.
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They didn't know about bill W in Mayberry.
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Don't get, don't, don't come down on them.
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They didn't have a pro.
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You know what?
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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Now that I realize how irresponsible Andy Griffith was as a sheriff, this is a problem.
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There was no fucking way.
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There's an AA meeting in Mayberry population was minuscule.
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There's somewhere to go.
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There's some sort of rehab program.
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Guy's drunk all the time.
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He can't drive please.
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It is crazy.
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Recidivism is a real problem.
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It is wild that that is part of the show, but it was back like back then.
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So much of the depiction of drunks would be like winos and stuff like that where they,
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it was, it was such a like, uh, like almost man who cares depiction of alcoholism.
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But the best, the best, uh, depiction of that time was always the, uh, the drunk who is
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on like the, the sidewalk, just holding a Brown bag and then something crazy happens
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and he turns and looks at it.
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He looks at it.
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He's like boo.
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He throws away the booze.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's the problem with the Andy Griffith show.
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There should have been, there should have been a surreal event that happened and they
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never would have had to worry about it again.
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I'm sure it happened all the time because that was like a classic comedy beat that used
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to happen.
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So many shows be like the wino takes a swig, something fucking up happens.
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He throws the box.
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It happened all the fucking time.
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It's perfect back then.
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They would just reuse gags on every fucking show.
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It's crazy how everyone just stole.
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Hold on.
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Let's let's, let's, uh, fair enough.
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They still do.
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But anyway, haven't you ever seen the good wife?
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I don't know why that, that was a weird poll.
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Not positive why we went down this road based on the clips.
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Winos and shit.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, time magazine for kids and textbooks aren't trying to indoctrinate your children.
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They're probably not reading them.
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And also time magazine for kids probably doesn't exist.
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Probably.
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So now, um, we know Alex Jones has one politician and one politician only that he is in love
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with.
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It's Ron Paul.
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Right.
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And a caller calls in and he's like, why isn't he clowning and Duncan on these globalists?
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Alex has an interesting answer.
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And then I have something really fun to talk about.
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What I want to see from, uh, uh, Ron Paul next time he has Bernanke, I mentioned this
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before.
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Why can't he just start embarrassing these people?
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You know what I mean?
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The, the, the brain, the main reason why American people are still listening to the globalists
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is because the globalists still have this aura of we have to call them out as criminals
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that need to be arrested.
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Like the state Senator did yesterday and Ron Paul loving to death.
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And I've told him this, you know, privately, he is just too much of a gentleman, too much
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of a nice guy attacking in the media.
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I think if he'd have been more aggressive and more hardcore, uh, that, that he would
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have had a better chance of winning.
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No, no.
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You would not have won.
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Nope.
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Now, it's really funny that Alex is alleging that Ron Paul is too much of a gentleman to
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call out the globalists when you sit back and reflect on his career.
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We've already discussed his very definitely self authored and very definitely racist newsletter,
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but I want to tell you Jordan today, I want to tell you a little story about something
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even more exciting that Ron Paul may have been up to in the 1980s.
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All right.
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So Jordan, this story is something you've never heard.
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I'm certain.
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Okay.
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This is one of the greatest things I think I've ever read.
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That's not true, but it's okay.
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All right.
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On April 27th, 1981, Don Black, a white supremacist who would later create storm front.
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No, no, boo, the future grass, a man named black is creating a white supremacist.
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No, boo.
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There's a certain irony there pass the man who would later create storm front was arrested
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along with nine other men who were suspiciously all gathered around a boat full of so many
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guns, a bunch of dynamite and a Nazi flag.
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As it turns out, these men had planned to meet up with a hastily thrown together militia
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and overthrow the government of the island nation, Dominica in hopes of setting up a
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white supremacist utopian state.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Wait, the guy who created a, just a regular old racist website, no, no, no, no, no way
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up.
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Premier white supremacist.
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One of the best.
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Yeah.
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I hate saying that.
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Yeah.
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That's a weird, weird way to look at it, but I shouldn't call it the best of anything.
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That's the marquee, like that's the broad way of, uh, of white supremacists.
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So yeah.
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So, so originally he had a plan to perform a coup.
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You bet it.
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And take over Dominica.
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Really?
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Yep.
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In 1981 with, uh, with nine guys.
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Boy, boy, white supremacists really think highly of themselves.
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You gotta be surprised by that.
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I can't stress this enough.
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It was these nine dudes.
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They were going to get on this boat and then meet up with a hastily thrown together militia.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Quote unquote army that they were going to meet up with.
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So it wasn't just the nine of them that were going to perform the coup.
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There was them plus a weirdo group.
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And six of those guys were Ron Paul, right?
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We're going to get to that.
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Okay.
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So the plane was fucked from the jump though they had originally secured a captain to take
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them to Dominica.
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He and his crew would back out in February of 1981, just two months before the planned
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coup.
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One of the co-conspirators, clan member, Mike Purdue found a new captain and told him that
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they needed his services for a CIA covert operation.
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Sure.
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Smart.
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That captain Michael Howell promptly called the ATF who put some countermeasures into
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action.
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I imagine he put down the phone and then immediately picked it back up and he's like, hold on,
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no, no, no, no.
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You guys got to see this shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So they put these countermeasures into action at which point the man who the conspirators
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plan to install as the new prime minister in Dominica, the guy named Patrick Johns was
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arrested in Dominica.
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Though the jig was up and their man was arrested for some reason, Mike Purdue wanted to power
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on and keep trying to get the mission done.
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Whites sure do you think a lot of themselves.
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So naturally the ATF planted some men in Howell's crew and they were police waiting at the Marina
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to arrest everyone on the day of the planned departure.
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Also naturally once Mike Purdue got arrested, he started squealing on everyone involved.
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He started trying to cut a deal.
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So Purdue would go on to testify that both David Duke and Ron Paul were both personally
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aware of the plans as was the then governor of Texas, John Connolly.
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What?
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He implicated three men as financiers of the adventure, one of whom JW Kirkpatrick committed
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suicide before he was due to appear in court.
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Smart.
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David, as mentioned, would go on to create Stormfront.
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He would also go on to aggressively campaign for Ron Paul any time he was up for election,
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particularly by using Stormfront to sway the white supremacist neo-Nazi vote in his direction.
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David Duke would also be a very loud supporter of Ron Paul's presidential efforts and has
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referred to Ron Paul as, quote, our king.
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Though he never made a statement on it and the judge declined to subpoena Ron Paul in
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the conspirators' trial, I would bet just about anything that I own that Ron Paul was
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absolutely aware of the plot to overthrow Dominica and may have been involved in some
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way.
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There's so many people who are connected to him who were involved with this plot.
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That guy definitely, like when he turned state's evidence, was like, yeah, Ron Paul knew about
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this.
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And the other people that he said were involved, one of them killed himself.
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Right.
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The other two- Well, that's proof that he wasn't involved.
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The other two financiers who were named, they had their cases thrown out just because, you
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know, they didn't have enough evidence, but probably were involved.
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Yeah.
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And then the judge refused to subpoena Ron Paul, who was a sitting congressman at the
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time.
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It really feels like you should have subpoenaed Ron Paul.
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And then John Connolly was the fucking governor of Texas, suspiciously the conspirators who
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ended up being found guilty or pleading guilty, ended up only getting three years in court,
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wonder why.
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It really, I really feel like- Or three years in prison.
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I really feel like planning and attempting to commit a coup should get more than three
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years.
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Well, the guy who they were going to install as prime minister got more, but that's because
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like he was- He was there.
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He was caught early.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So are you telling me that I could charter a plane with like, let's say, what do they
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got?
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Let's say Max, 60 guys, and just cover, just fill that plane with guns and then just fly
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to Iran and be like, we're going to take over this bitch.
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Iran's probably too big.
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You'd have to go with something like- What do you mean Iran's too, anywhere's too
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big for 60 guys to commit a coup unless they already live there and are in the government.
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Dominica's pretty small.
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60 guys though?
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Yeah, it's tough.
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You couldn't even commit a coup of like Champaign, Illinois with 60 guys.
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Wow.
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There's a...
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Yeah.
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Look, I don't want to talk about the logistics of it as much as I want to talk about it.
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I do want to talk about the logistics of it.
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It was a stupid fucking plan.
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Was nobody there just like, guys, this is a really bad idea.
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Well, the boat captain that they tried to enlist was.
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He said that for sure.
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Yeah, well, he was smart.
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He's like, uh, no, I'm going to call the ATF on your asses.
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It's like, it's the sort of thing that I think you could make a really good, like dark comedy
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about.
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Like a dark- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oceans 11 type comedy about.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because the story is hilarious.
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No, it's like the- But the idea that Ron Paul has never put out, like never said, I was
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not involved in that.
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He's never made a statement about it and these people are very clearly saying he was.
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It's crazy.
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It's crazy.
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But if you are Ron Paul, what's the win there?
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You just, well, then you have a white supremacist state that you secretly were involved in helping
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out.
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Well, somebody's going to ask a question about how a white supremacist state took over Dominica.
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Sooner or later, somebody's gonna be like, hey.
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But if Ron Paul keeps his hands clean, he will have people like Don Black and people
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like these clan members who were involved spreading the word on the low in a way that's
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not provable in court that he was part of it.
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Hey, he's our king.
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He's backing us up.
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He can't put that rhetoric out into public because if he does, he'll be publicly disqualified
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from ever being in office.
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Right.
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It really does serve his interests.
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There's gonna be a paper trail of some sort.
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It's like with the- Not in 1981.
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Well, that's true.
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I mean, it's like- What are you gonna do?
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They still have like bank transactions and everything.
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But he wasn't one of the financiers necessarily.
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Okay.
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Well, but that's what- And you can get around that with fucking money orders, untraceable
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money orders and cash.
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Yeah, but these guys are dumb.
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Like with Manafort.
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They are dumb.
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Like with Manafort, there's definitely that like the worst thing that happened to Manafort
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was Trump won because otherwise nobody would have looked into it.
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I think Ukraine might have.
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Well, yeah, but they don't- They're like an extradite him.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Right.
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But look, dude, Ron Paul was probably involved in this.
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Yeah, almost certainly.
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No way to necessarily prove it, but my gut tells me Ron Paul tried to overthrow Dominica.
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What's weird is that in four years, Ron Paul will be elected president of Dominica.
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No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or at the least, president of Champaign, Illinois.
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Perhaps.
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As long as he got 59 other dudes.
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So at this point, Alex has representative Charles Key on the show, who is a-
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Yes.
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Great, great, great grandson of F. Scott Key.
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Francis Scott Key.
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Yeah.
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The guy who wrote the national anthem.
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Indeed.
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Which is definitely not racist at all.
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Let's pretend he is.
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Yeah.
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That sounds fun.
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Also, second cousin to Alan Keyes.
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Why not?
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Yeah, that sounds great.
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So third cousin to Alan Watt.
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Why not?
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Yeah, not Watts.
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Exactly.
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Watt.
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Exactly.
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So Alex has him on.
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He is a state representative from Oklahoma, and he's been on before, so we've talked about
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his past a little bit.
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We don't need to do a deep dive on him, but they talk about the Oklahoma City bombing,
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and this is sort of Charles Keyes' bread and butter.
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He's been an Oklahoma City conspiracy theorist since 1995, and here's what they say.
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This is a really nasty character.
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Is Eric Holder.
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Well, we can fix these problems in this country.
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There's so many examples, and Oklahoma City bombing case is a very good one to thank God
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for Jesse Trinidad and people like him that won't let go and they keep fighting this thing
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and dig more and more evidence out, but there's more than enough evidence for the people to
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see that their government is out of control.
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So this is where we can get a specific, because I've heard the name Jesse Trentadu brought
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up a bunch through some of the wild goose chases I went on from Alex's like, let's see
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what he's talking about.
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Can you say that name one more time?
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Trentadu?
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Trentadu.
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T-R-E-N-T-A-D-U-E.
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It's fun to say.
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All right.
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That is fun to say.
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So the fact that Charles Keyes is bringing him up as somebody who's been doing the fight
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for a long time, I decided that I needed to look into him.
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Somebody who's been Trenting that do.
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Indeed.
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So we finally have, like, we're climbing the rock, we got a hold here so we can grab onto
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it.
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And this is actually super interesting to me, because here's the deal.
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Jesse Trentadu is a Utah-based lawyer whose brother, Kenneth Trentadu, was probably murdered
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by the police in Oklahoma City.
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The official declaration was that it was a suicide, but Jesse believes that evidence
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shows that the official version of the story is impossible.
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From there, he's gone on a bit of a mission to get justice for his brother that has led
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him to become a hero for the militia and patriot community.
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That's the, there's a way to do that without becoming a hero to the militia community.
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I believe that he went down the wrong road.
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Yeah, there was a, that's a definite crossroads in your life moment.
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Now here's the thing, Jordan.
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It very much looks like Jesse Trentadu has a good point.
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And killed his brother.
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Nope.
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No, no.
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I think he has a good point that unfortunately leads to a really bad point.
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After reviewing the evidence, I have very little reason to doubt Jesse's argument that
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his brother, Kenneth, was murdered by the police while in custody.
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There are massive inconsistencies and we all were pretty well versed in the idea of
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police brutality.
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Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of shocking when cops don't kill people now.
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The idea that he might have killed himself, I recognize a certain possibility to it.
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I would say it's much less likely based on the evidence than he was murdered by the police.
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Because there are like ligature marks on his, on his arm from the handcuffs that probably
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wouldn't be there if he hadn't been struggling and like there are wounds to his face that
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don't seem consistent with him hanging himself in his cell unless there's some sort of unreported
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battery in the prison, like a fight he got in that isn't on record.
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So he was killed in prison?
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Yes.
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Oh.
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And I believe-
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So the cops definitely killed him.
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I think, look, I would say there's, it's impossible for me to know like based on the things that
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I've looked into, but I would be pretty comfortable saying I put it at least like an 85% chance
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the cops murdered him.
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Cops murdered him.
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I think that there's a good, good chance of that.
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Now the reason that I think there's a 15% chance that it is true that he killed himself
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and some of those wounds were from him struggling while he was alive with handcuffs that just
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have lasted after he's dead, he could have gotten beaten in prison and then hung himself.
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He was a heroin addict and a lifelong criminal and addict.
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So like the idea that possibly he'd gotten to this point and became despondent and hung
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himself, I think there's a small possibility of it, much more likely based on the evidence
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that Jesse Trinidad's argument is correct.
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I think he probably did get murdered by the police, which I think is fucked up.
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But the argument that this has something to do with the Oklahoma City bombing seems to
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have something to do with the fact that the government was resistant to investigate the
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death of Kenneth Trinity.
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The county medical examiner became frustrated that he couldn't get a grand jury together
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to look at the death.
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So he attempted to get the concurrent Oklahoma City bombing grand jury to include it as a
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piece of their investigation.
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In reality, they didn't want to get involved with that in their grand jury because it was
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unrelated.
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But the perception is that somehow the two crimes were connected and the fact they wouldn't
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deal with it on that grand jury is evidence that they were trying to shut it down.
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Now I believe, again, it's very important that I make clear where I agree with this
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guy and where I don't.
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I do think that there's probably a cover up of his death.
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I don't think it's involved with Oklahoma City.
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That's crazy.
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It is crazy.
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So this coroner, or no, what was it?
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It was coroner, right?
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The medical examiner.
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Medical examiner.
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Yeah.
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Was just like, nobody's paying attention to me.
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So I'm going to just toss this in with the OKC bombing?
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That's what I gathered.
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Can you do that?
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That's what I gathered from an interview with the medical examiner.
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I really feel like you can't just do that.
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Nobody would just allow you to do that.
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And that's why it didn't happen.
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And that's why it didn't happen.
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Right.
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Now, the idea-
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That's a Hail Mary if I ever heard one.
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The idea that the medical examiner was running into resistance when he was trying to get
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a grand jury together to investigate this-
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Is exactly what would happen if the cops killed him.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, it's fucking awful and I hate it.
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But it doesn't necessarily, you need to do better than that to prove to me that this
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is somehow involved with Oklahoma City.
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Yeah.
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And the bombing.
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Just because it happened around the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean to me that they're
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connected.
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I have a bit of empathy for this, even though he's a fucking criminal, even though he's
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someone who got himself back in prison, he didn't fucking deserve that if that is what
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happened to him.
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No.
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I still have some empathy about that.
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And to a certain extent, I have some empathy with Jesse trying to do.
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Absolutely.
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And trying to find out the truth and get rights wronged.
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No, again.
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Or wrongs righted.
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Again.
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It's very much like, no, I totally get it.
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There's a crossroads.
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There's a one path, the other path kind of situation where it's like, either I can become
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a crusader for good or I can believe that it's part of the Oklahoma City bombing narrative.
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Now, beyond all this stuff that I've already mentioned, Jesse Trentedew's argument hinges
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on some anonymous phone calls that he alleges he's received that have told him that his
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brother's death was involved with the bombing, including one from Timothy McVeigh himself,
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according to Trentedew.
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The theory is that the feds confused Kenneth Trentedew with Richard Lee Guthrie, the creator
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of the white supremacist and neo-Nazi group, the Aryan Republican Army.
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Guthrie and his group robbed 22 banks between 1994 and 1996 in order to fund their terrorist
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activities.
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He was inspired by the Turner Diaries, just like Timothy McVeigh.
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He'd spent time at Elohim City, just like Timothy McVeigh.
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Witnesses have alleged that Guthrie and his members of the Aryan Republican Army used
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the funds that they stole from those 22 banks to pay for Timothy McVeigh's expenses in putting
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together his attack.
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There are unsubstantiated but alleged connections between them, and associates of Richard Lee
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Guthrie had been placed at like bars that Timothy McVeigh was at in the days prior to
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the attack, paying for his drinks.
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I can see why that didn't become a rote bank robber movie, that Robin Hood bank robber
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story that we always see over and over again.
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They're not going to do that one for the white supremacist bank robber story.
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No.
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Nah.
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I don't think that one's going to be famous.
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It'd be crazy to rob 22 banks.
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That's a lot of banks.
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So many banks.
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How did they not get caught?
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Well, as I understand, from what I read- That's like Al Capone level of banks whenever
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they didn't even have cops or whatever.
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From what I read, most of it hinged on the fact that they mostly targeted small town
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Midwestern banks.
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They had very little security and didn't have... They had easy getaway points.
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Banks that would be close to the highway would be prime targets because you get in and get
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on the interstate, and generally speaking, it's harder to catch you.
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So could we... Was it maybe that they got greedy?
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Could you and I successfully rob one of those banks?
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As long as we kept it to two or three, we'd be fine?
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It was also 30 years ago.
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So the technology of surveillance and stuff like that was much weaker than it is now.
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And then another thing that they would do is they would leave fake explosives around
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in order to try and cripple the response time.
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That's smart.
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That's smart.
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They had a whole plan together.
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That's a good plan.
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So how is this related to Kenneth Trent?
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Two things come up.
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First, Kenneth allegedly looked a lot like Richard Lee Guthrie.
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Second, Kenneth had a rap sheet that included robbing banks, which is the reason he was
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in custody in the first place.
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He refused to conform to the terms of his probation.
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Don't rob any more banks.
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Not that part.
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He told the state that he wasn't going to stop drinking booze, so there was no reason
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for him to come in for drug screenings or anything like that, so he just stopped going
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to probation hearings.
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Right.
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Because he's going to be caught.
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Well, yeah.
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He's like, I'm going to keep drinking.
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I think it's crazy that you guys say I can't.
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I'm just a heroin addict.
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It's fine.
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I have booze.
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And so he just stopped going in for piss tests and stuff like that, which was a condition
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of his parole.
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He also had in-laws in Mexico that he went to go visit right before he was arrested because
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he was arrested when he tried to reenter the country since his probation forbade him from
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leaving the country.
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If the argument just were that there was a drawing of Guthrie out in the world as John
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Doe number two, and Trentadu looked a lot like him, so the feds killed him, then I think
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you have a theory that makes sense.
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I can see that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't believe it, and it's not proven in any way, but there aren't any glaring problems
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with it.
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However, Jesse Trentadu's narrative is far more complicated.
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He believes that Waco, Ruby Rage, and Oklahoma City are all part of the federal government's
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attempt to disrupt patriot organizations.
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That's where you get into trouble, man.
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It's a part of an operation he calls PATCON or the Patriot Conspiracy.
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Because he involves this as a part of his argument...
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That actually sounds like something that happens in San Diego once a year.
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No, it's in the Pacific Northwest, buddy.
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It's up in Idaho for sure.
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Because he involves this as a part of his argument, everything falls apart.
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If PATCON is real, which I'm not sure it is, I don't think it is, then the feds would know
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who they were looking for in John Doe number two.
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They knew that they would be looking for Richard Lee Guthrie, but probably didn't want the
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public to know how they knew that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right, right, right.
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They would have had surveillance tentacles out there that they didn't want to reveal,
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so they would be putting out this APB on a person.
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They knew who they were looking for because of this Patriot Conspiracy network that they
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were putting out into the world, and just have to shield that from public awareness.
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But if that's the case, it follows that they would know damn well that Kenneth Trentedew
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wasn't Richard Lee Guthrie, given the fact that Trentedew was in custody because of the
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long-documented probation violation, and he had a full rap sheet.
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And on a very basic level, the fact that Guthrie and him are two different people, they would
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know that.
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If the rest of Jesse Trentedew's narrative that he has built since going on this crusade
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is true, it all is self-contradictory.
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It doesn't work together.
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It's impossible.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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So the story is really, really sad, and you can't help but empathize with Jesse.
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Here's a man who had his brother most likely murdered by the police, and though he's tried
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for years to get some modicum of justice, the state has not allowed him closure.
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It becomes even sadder when you see how he's allowed the pain and grief he feels about
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this tragedy to be transmuted into a right-wing conspiracy.
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On another level, it's really sad to recognize all the non-white families that have to go
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through this exact same pain every day, having their family members killed or wrongly incarcerated,
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but don't have enough circumstantial evidence or connections to white supremacist and neo-Nazi
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groups to get Alex Jones to even care about their plight.
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I watched an hour-plus long presentation by Jesse Trentedew where he laid out all the
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relevant evidence to his claims, and I think the connection to the OKC bombing is profoundly
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flimsy.
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But it's what he needs in order to keep his brother's death relevant, to make it more
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important than just another inmate senselessly murdered by the police.
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I would feel a lot of empathy for him if he didn't say this towards the end of his presentation.
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Quote, you ask me how long I'm going to fight these sons of bitches, till I'm dead.
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And what justice will I ever get out of that?
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Will they ever prosecute anybody for my brother?
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No, never will.
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But I can harm the reputation of the Department of Justice.
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I can harm the reputation of the FBI.
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I can do great damage to them, and that's my objective.
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That's the only justice my family will ever get.
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It seems like Trentedew's primary objective, as he clearly says, is to hurt the FBI and
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the Department of Justice.
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If you were doing that by sticking to the facts about his brother's probable murder,
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I would support that wholeheartedly.
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Unfortunately, he's correctly realized that the way he can hurt them the most is to side
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with the right-wing terrorists to peddle unfounded nonsense.
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And for that, my empathy for his situation is greatly diminished.
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And I feel very sad.
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I wish I could care more, but he's got tricked by these dudes.
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That sucks all around.
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That sucks for everybody.
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That sucks.
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I'm bummed.
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There's nothing good about that.
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No, there's nothing to hang your...
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There's no hero.
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Everybody's bad.
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Even the people that you...
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That's the serial killer who has a bad childhood.
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You're like, I would empathize with you if you weren't a serial killer.
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The only person who's conceivably good is the guy who got murdered in prison, and we
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don't even know that.
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Yeah.
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You know, we assume that he didn't do anything to deserve that sort of treatment.
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All he was was the town drunk!
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She was Otis.
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In Mayberry!
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But we don't know what his life was like outside of that, you know, everything.
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Right, right, right.
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You know, grieving family members saying he was great.
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And maybe he was, I don't know.
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I can't speak to that.
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But yeah, everything sucks, man.
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My conspiracy theory.
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Kenneth and...
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What's his name?
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Edward Lee Guthrie?
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No, no, no, no.
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The other brother.
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Jesse?
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Jesse.
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Kenneth and Jesse were actually twins.
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Jesse was the one who was accidentally mistaken for Kenneth and put in prison.
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Interesting.
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Kenneth is actually Jesse.
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Kenneth was always a white supremacist, and that's why he tricked Jesse into going to
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prison for him.
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And a great actor.
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And a great actor.
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And secretly is actually Kenneth Branagh.
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And he was caught coming out of the opera house whenever Lincoln was killed.
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Undoubtedly.
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Yeah.
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It sucks.
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You're right.
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I mean, all that just sucks.
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I took no pleasure out of learning about this stuff.
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No, that's a bummer.
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But I'm fascinated by it.
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Like, you know, as I was complaining about earlier, I think I went on maybe too long
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of a rant about it, how dissatisfying it is to chase the ghosts of Alex's imagination.
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When you find something that's like, oh, there's a specific, and you look into it and it's
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something like that, it is the very literal definition of sour grapes.
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Yeah.
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And you're like, oh man, look at that fruit up there on the branch.
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You go and eat it and you're like, oh my God, that fruit's terrible.
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That's just a tragedy all the way around.
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Yeah.
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Because like I said, I can't stress this enough, I think he probably was fucking murdered.
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He almost certainly was.
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And that conversation is relevant, you know, like it is.
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Absolutely.
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But then once you allow the stupid conspiracy stuff to invade that, you muddy the waters
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of a good argument.
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And then there's another piece I didn't even bring into this that eventually the family
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did get a payoff from the government.
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Oh no.
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And then he kept going.
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He's still trying to, he ended up winning in civil court.
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Yeah.
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Cause the government, cause the cops murdered his brother.
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As I understand, self-reporting on his part, he got a payoff not from like the murder,
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but from like intentional cause of grief for the process he had to go through or whatever.
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And so like he did get paid off and I don't think that that's still a bummer.
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I don't think it makes it better.
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I think that there's obviously the best thing that could come out of it is, you know, police
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reform.
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Yeah.
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A payoff isn't, isn't any more satisfying than anything else.
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That's just, that's just like, Hey, we're going to keep murdering people, but you get
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some money because you wouldn't shut up about it.
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And the people who are involved in the coverup, you know, like if there were, if it was a
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murder.
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The people who were involved in the coverup.
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No consequences.
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Should be held responsible.
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You would think.
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Now I don't know if it goes all the way up to Eric Holder.
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But instead your tax dollars go to, well it actually was Eric Holder.
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If it goes all the way up to Eric Holder, I still don't think it involves the bombing,
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but then there's a different conversation about like, Hey, you got to rein in the police
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forces in this country.
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You would think.
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But, or at least you, you need to prosecute them.
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It almost seems like any one with guns should have a conversation, should be controlled
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in some way.
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There should be some sort of oversight for any human being that's allowed to have a gun
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perhaps regardless of whether or not they are in law, law enforcement, maybe something
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to that.
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Yeah.
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Could be Jordan.
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Yeah.
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Uh, that's a bit of the heaviness.
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Now we're out of it.
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Chris Jones is going to talk a bunch of dumb bullshit about how there are occultists in
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the world and they hate Christianity.
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That sounds right.
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One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that the occultists, uh, the Rosary regions,
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all these groups, same religion, run the atheistic agnostic groups, the humanist groups, and
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also have been able to traded all the seminaries.
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They brag about it in their books, as you men know.
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Yeah.
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We're huge fans of them.
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They're obsessed with discrediting true Christianity, but then not hard to deal.
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They're a bunch of occultists.
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Why do they accept all the other religions except for that?
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But I don't know why, why does everyone hate true Christianity?
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What's true?
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Christianity, Dan?
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I don't know.
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Just, he's trying to be a victim, but, uh, he said, you men know he wasn't talking to
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the audience.
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He was talking to his guests.
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Yes.
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There are a couple of dudes on new guests from a group called cutting edge ministries
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and they're not a fan already out there on because they have a new documentary out called
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the eye of the Phoenix, which is about the fun though on the dollar bill.
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That's less fun.
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I do like the title, the eye of the Phoenix though.
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Sure.
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That's not bad.
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Their main argument seems to be that the dollar bill represents the mythical Phoenix and that
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the globalists are going to take it down and from its ashes is going to rise world government.
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Okay.
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You should also know that they have an entire website where they lay out how Harry Potter
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is evil.
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It's one of the lamest things I've ever seen in my life.
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And well, yeah, but I mean, they must be pissed because they came out before Harry Potter,
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right?
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Yeah.
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So Harry Potter's tossing in Phoenix's like it's a good thing and they're like, no, the
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Phoenix is bad.
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Yeah.
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That might be some sort of like getting on our turf.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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But it's just that boring Christian nonsense of like, this is of the devil.
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That sort of shit.
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Yeah, yeah, no, but did I ever tell you whenever I was a, whenever I was like 12 or 13, my
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church asked me to read the first Harry Potter book so I could determine whether or not it
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was a blasphemous in case other children read it.
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So they asked you to be the sorting hat of the book.
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You got it.
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Yep.
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Did you clear this book?
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Slytherin!
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Burn it!
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And no one shall read this book!
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Burn Slytherin!
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This is the, this book is of Voldemort's house.
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Perhaps I am wrong.
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It is he who should not be named.
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So these guys are wacky.
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I wanted to like get some quotes from the website, but I was like, I've already read
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way too much on this episode.
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Let's punt on this stupid bullshit.
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But that does not stop me from playing this.
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One more clip from Cutting Edge Ministries' appearance where they say something that I
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think is profoundly stupid about their idea of what's about to happen in the world.
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But the exciting part of it for us is that this all comes down and they are aiming for
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the very thing the Bible says will happen and that is a Christ figure that will claim
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to be Jesus Christ and all the world's religions and will take control of a global government,
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a global economy, and a global religion.
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Well let me look at it.
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They didn't even know about the globe back then.
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Are calling for a one-world government and I have video of them joining hands with all
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the other religions.
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I mean they're all pushing for this.
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Yeah and the Illuminati back in 1991 made a decision that the Roman Catholic Pope, whomever
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he was at the time, would become the top religious leader of the New World Order.
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I just, I had to, I kept it to that long and then I had to cut it off because it's just
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ramblings like, oh the Illuminati decided in 1991.
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You should really know which Pope it is you're talking about if that's part of your conspiracy
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theory.
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Yeah.
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Like you should have that information like on hand.
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No, no, that's not fair.
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Oh he was saying that whomever the Pope was.
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At any point in time from that point forward they are now the head of the globalist religion
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or whatever.
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Wasn't that still John Paul II?
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I think so in 1991.
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I don't know, I don't study the Pope timeline so that, I'm going to punt, but I think it
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was.
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That's a good show on USA though.
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The Pope timeline?
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Young Pope timeline?
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Yeah, have you ever seen that?
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So good.
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Oh yeah.
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Got canceled, didn't it?
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No, the new season of Young Pope timeline is coming out soon.
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That confused with Young Sheldon timeline.
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Anyway, I just think that that's fun.
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That's like, all right guys, I love your lifestyle.
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I love it.
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You like it?
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I do.
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Okay.
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Because to me that's like the good fun conspiracy world.
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You know, like the Illuminati decided in 1991 that Pope will be the king of all global religions.
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Why 1991?
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And also there's weird pictographs on the dollar bill.
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Is it a palindrome?
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Is that what it is?
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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Like that's the sort of stuff that I think that, it lives in that conspiracy world that,
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I know that it can be a funnel to more dangerous conspiracy world, but it's fun.
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It is fun.
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It's fun in this place, mostly outside of bigotry, I think, although probably not.
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No, definitely not.
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It's just more fun.
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The idea-
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It would be more fun if, it's like in 1991, the Illuminati decided that no one will ever
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find Bigfoot.
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There was a chance, there was a time, but right at 91, they were like, no more.
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Bill Clinton's about to become president.
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Nobody can find Bigfoot anymore.
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Rules.
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Clinton hid all the living squatches down in the Dulce base in New Mexico, way underground.
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Did he?
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Yes, absolutely.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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And Carrie Cassidy is on the case.
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She is going to find those hidden squatches.
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Man, I don't know.
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I have no idea.
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God, we should write a detective series based on Carrie Cassidy.
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Trying to, yeah, like a Hardy Boys message?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That'd be perfect.
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I think, you know what's interesting?
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I need to do some research because I don't know if I've ever heard-
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Have there been, did she write her own young adult series?
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I don't doubt it.
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And sold it.
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I'm sure.
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Probably.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The Hunger Games.
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Here's the thing.
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Yeah.
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I'm not interested in cryptozoology for the most part, but I'm not sure I've ever heard
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Carrie talk about squatches.
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Really?
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Yeah, I'm not sure-
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That's a good point.
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I need to look into, but maybe in passing she said that they were some sort of alien
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race.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Yeah.
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Like that sounds like something she'd be like, and the raptors are fighting the reptoids
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and the Pleiadians teamed up with the Sasquatches to-
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The Pleiadians are all obviously in alliance with Squatch.
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No, no, no.
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The Squatches are good people.
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They're heroes.
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They're good people.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I got to look through her archives, see if I can find a Squatch app.
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I would definitely do a Squatch app.
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Yeah, for sure.
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See if we can get Bobcat Goldthwait on.
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Oh, that'd be great.
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Or Jason Earle Folks.
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Jason Earle Folks.
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Yeah, toss them all in there.
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Chicago comedian who's obsessed with Sasquatch.
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So Jordan, that brings us to the end of February 26th.
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Right.
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Which means-
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Now.
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The day begins.
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Time for a party.
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What kind of party?
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Tea party.
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Good song.
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Thanks.
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Was that a techno song in the 80s?
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Yeah.
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It was from a weird movie.
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It was a sci-fi B movie where they had a maintenance droid that injects you.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was basically Independence Day, but it was the tea party.
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Mixed with doom.
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The tea party.
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Right.
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So instead of the July 4th, 1776, it was like, oh, we're going to throw these aliens tea
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into the ocean.
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Jordan, there's no way for us to give this the gravitas that it requires because for
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all of our 2009 episodes now going on maybe as long as the 2015 investigation, or at least
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it feels that way, we are now finally at the day of the nationwide Chicago tea party.
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By the way, not sponsored by nationwide.
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They are not on your side.
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No.
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No, they're on some people's side if you're white.
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But it's time.
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Here's how he starts the show.
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Okay.
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Teasing an interview and then saying something really fucked up.
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Then we have Janine Lombard.
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So it's a tea party.
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She is a British lady.
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Not the way you should say that.
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Well, we've had her on, I guess, about six, seven, eight years ago.
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I want to be clear.
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She's married to a lord.
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She's married to a lord.
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When he says lady, he's not saying-
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He's literally saying she's a lady.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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He's not saying that.
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It's like, lady.
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That sounded to me exactly like, hey, our next comic coming up to the stage is a lady.
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I know.
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You guys are going to love that.
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And that's why I had to pause it just to be clear.
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That's her title.
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It's not like, ooh, we got a woman.
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All right.
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So now I hate her instead of him.
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Who cares?
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To go, I first saw her.
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I said, who cares?
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Because like-
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No, that's fine.
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You don't need to justify.
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You don't need to justify.
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No, I'm like, I was thinking about like, should I defend her?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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With her documentary that aired on PBS, I'd already learned this when I was a child because
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my dad had friends that were in the international diamond business who were French South Africans.
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What?
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It was all monopoly.
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There were giant warehouses of diamonds and the diamonds were semi-precious, I mean, literally
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worth the same amount as rhinestones, but people will mortgage their houses or two or
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three years pay, you know, just to buy their wife or sweetie a big diamond.
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Yeah.
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This is a problem.
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And I halfway didn't believe my dad, but I knew he didn't make stuff up.
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And then I remember when I was a teenager, I saw her Diamond Empire film.
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Now, I didn't know, because it wasn't in the news, that they went on her yacht, told her
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you shouldn't have made that movie, broke her nose, knocked some of her teeth out.
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What?
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And she's married to a British Lord.
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She's pretty powerful.
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So there's the married to a Lord part.
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Is it Lord Moncton?
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No, it's not.
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Maybe it is.
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I didn't know.
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I can neither confirm nor deny that she's married to Lord Moncton, climate creep.
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But so Alex's big narrative with her is that people came to her yacht, beat the shit out
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of her, and said you shouldn't make this movie.
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Right.
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He's going to repeat that at least six times during this episode.
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She is going to explain that that did not happen, I assume.
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Who knows?
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He's going to repeat that over and over again.
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It's the big selling point of like, this documentary that she put out is too dangerous.
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She's a martyr.
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She lived it, man.
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The mafia came to her, roughed her up, and said, look, if you don't want this to happen
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again, you're going to do it.
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I don't know why I'm doing so many voices today.
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Urinate fucking impression storm.
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Too many voices.
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Too many voices.
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I like it, though.
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I like it.
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It's actually Zagami who came to her, and he's like, and we're going to Zagami.
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Okay, all right.
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Zagami can't go on a yacht.
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Is that court order?
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I don't know why I said that.
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Like she's some sort of nautical vampire.
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I don't know what the fuck.
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You'll have to invite me onto your yacht.
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I can't.
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Why the fuck would I say Zagami can't go on a yacht?
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It made total sense.
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Is that a George Seurat painting?
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Upstairs it made total fucking sense.
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So that's where he's going with it.
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I think the most troubling thing to hear is that his dad was friends with South African
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diamond guides.
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That's really bad.
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Because work out that timeline.
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It kind of suggests...
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Work out that timeline.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That was apartheid, baby.
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Yeah.
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And French South Africans would be white South Africans.
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Hmm.
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So his dad...
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It's almost like the whole family's been white supremacists for a long time.
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And these connections...
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In Texas?
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And these connections with people who are exploiting apartheid South Africa for strip
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mining the resources, it seems like there are a lot more of them popping up all over
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the place suspiciously.
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It's almost like a lot of the proto-right wing and the John Birch Society folks, maybe
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a lot of their funding came from strip mining countries that had exploitative racial practices.
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White people would never do that.
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We have a long history of not exploiting other...
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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So like I said, we are now on the day of the tea party.
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And it seems like on the last episode, or I'm sorry, on the 25th, two days prior, Alex
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had a clearly planted caller who called in to say, hey, you should check this out.
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Maybe he's gonna be up on it.
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Instead what he does is he talks to his survival food guy.
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Okay, cool.
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And now for the balance of this segment, I wanted to get Steve on today because Steve
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Shank has been the storeable foods business for 28 years.
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I bought a lot of storeable foods over the years and didn't like a lot of the quality
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of it, I'll tell you.
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And when I bought his food seven years ago, it didn't have any MSG, it was non-GMO.
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It was the best price I found out there and delivered the quickest just in a few weeks.
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And so we went out and got him as a sponsor, but I wanted to have him on to track what's
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happening in the economy.
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So Alex is having his fucking survival food guy on as a guest to talk about the economy,
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which we already know he has this weird business model where his sponsors have to be guests
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repeatedly.
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We've had the limerick soap guy repeatedly.
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This isn't the first time Steve Shank has shown up as a guest talking about things that
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aren't survival food.
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So it's super weird.
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Does he ever say the slogan for his business?
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I don't know.
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What is the slogan?
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It's a, we shanked it.
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Stick to the impressions, bro.
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Good point.
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Mine is one.
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Because here's why.
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I like...
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It's a mine is a one.
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Oh boy.
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Back in business.
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All right.
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There we go.
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I like the attempt.
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I like where you're going with it.
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But that would never be his slogan because shanked it would be like a negative thing.
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Like you shanked it.
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I...
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Oh, Dan.
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I...
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You'd never make your survival food thing.
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We blew it.
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What if...
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There you go.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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You got to recontextualize it.
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Okay.
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The we in the we shanked it is society.
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Okay.
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Society.
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Oh, okay.
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Now, now my pun is making a lot more sense.
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And now...
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Yeah.
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So society blew it.
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And now you need...
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You need survival food.
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So it's a long walk.
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Plus one.
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No.
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Push.
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Push.
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Push.
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Push again.
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I gave myself a minus one.
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Now you recontextualize it.
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I get a plus one.
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We're even.
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I give myself a negative one for being so harshly critical, but a plus one for helping
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you walk through.
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Perfect.
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Yes.
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So it's like it's tea party day.
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He's having his food fucking sponsor on to talk about the economy, which is weird.
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I'm like, yeah, it's a little early in the show.
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Food sponsor, tea, done.
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It's a little...
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Does he sell survival tea?
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Probably.
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No, because those heirloom seed people probably have some like tea seeds or something like
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that.
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That's a different sponsor.
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But be that as it may, he's having this...
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I'm like maybe later in the show, he'll get to his thoughts about how there's a nationwide
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uprising going on quite literally on this day, but instead he has Bob Chapman on.
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Bob Chapman shows up and he makes a startling confession.
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He's a white South African.
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No, he's already confessed that.
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These are the main things.
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And of course, unfortunately for the shareholders, it's been an absolute nosedive and they've
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just...
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Well, we went short the stock.
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We bet it was going to go down at $38 a share, $42 a share, somewhere up there.
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I kind of get it mixed up with JP Morgan because we shorted that as well around the same price
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and that's selling for around $20.
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But as you pointed out, the Citigroup is down 56 cents today, it's selling for about a buck
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and a half.
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And we'll probably cover that short, in other words, buy it in at somewhere around $1, I
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hope.
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And the subscribers will have made the difference between, say, $40 and $1, which is an awful
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lot of money.
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So what he is saying is that he predicted that banks were going to lose value in stock.
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So he short bet them.
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He bet that they would fall in price and made a bunch of money off of it.
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Right.
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Michael Lewis made a movie about it.
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Now?
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Yeah.
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Michael Lewis, Jones's primary complaint about George Soros.
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I don't know.
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He has shorted banks.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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He's the man who broke the Bank of England by short betting against them.
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No idea what you're talking about.
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Bob Chapman is coming on the show and saying he did the exact same fucking stuff that they
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accused George Soros of being evil for doing.
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But Bob Chapman isn't a globalist.
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I understand that.
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It's part of the fucking stock market.
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Which is a problem in and of itself.
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I don't think, well, I mean, there's bigger problems, but in terms of if we have the stock
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market as it exists now, you need people short betting in order to pay the price for people
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who, whoever's wrong pays and whoever's right makes that money.
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Yeah, but I feel like gambling with pension funds is probably bad.
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Awful.
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I don't like it.
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But I don't think that there's a moral aspect to short betting something if that's the system
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we live in.
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I would rather we don't do that, but while it's there, it's not wrong.
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Right.
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You're playing the rules of the game.
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Although on the other hand, short betting and the other long betting, whatever it is,
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those both seem like opposite ends of the same insider trading exploitative system.
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It can be for sure.
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So it seems like both of those being an option, period, is a very bad thing, right for crime
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and fraud.
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On a super elementary basis, you have a situation where you see a stock, right, and you can
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bet that it's going to get better or you can bet that it's going to get worse.
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Right.
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You know, like how economy should work.
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What?
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Yeah, totally.
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Totally.
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Didn't Eddie Murphy make a movie about how evil that is?
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But it's no more wrong to bet against something than it is to bet for it.
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You betting against it doesn't make it fail.
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Right.
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I think that Rose would disagree with you.
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Well, no, that's different.
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It would be different if, like, let's say the president of Citigroup shorted Citigroup.
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That would be fun.
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Then you'd be like, uh-oh.
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That's an issue.
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That's an issue.
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He would get a lifetime ban from the Hall of Fame for sure.
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Undoubtedly.
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Banker's Hall of Fame.
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If it exists, we should burn down.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So now here's the most interesting thing.
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The Banker's Hall of Fame is also in Cooperstown?
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Yes.
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Now, the other reason that we've been going back to 2009 is I'm desperately trying to
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figure out when Alex started talking about George Soros.
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In this appearance, I don't have the clip of it because it's so inconsequential.
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Bob Chapman brings up George Soros.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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As a good person, doesn't he?
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No, he brings him up in reference to Glenn Beck talking about how there's going to be
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this Bubba uprising, which absolutely did happen with the Tea Party.
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But, like, he's talking about Glenn Beck and George Soros sort of being in concert with
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each other.
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No.
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He's implying that they're working towards similar goals.
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All right.
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But the only reason I don't have a clip of it is, like, it's two seconds of Bob Chapman
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saying blah.
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Hey, there's George Soros.
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Bye.
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And then Alex doesn't respond to it at all.
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Like, if I were to play the clip, I would have had to play, like, four minutes of Alex
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completely no-selling George Soros being brought up.
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Yeah.
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It's not on his radar.
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It doesn't matter at all to him.
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He's like, oh, yeah, I believe even what he more is like, but Beck sucks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's what he cares about.
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Right.
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So he stole George Soros while he didn't steal George Soros from Beck.
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He ignored that Beck might be in concert with George Soros.
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He wasn't.
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Well, well, yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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Yeah.
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If there's anything I know about George Soros is that he's not going to be like Glenn Beck,
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you got some good ideas.
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Let's see what's up with you.
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You got the goods.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's weird, man, because it's the first time his name has come up.
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You've got the goods.
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Good.
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Good impression.
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So but it's weird because...
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I was doing an impression of Alan's doing an impression.
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It's a sequential impression.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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It's the first time he's come up in this at least month of episodes that we've listened
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to.
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Right.
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It's the closest to, hey, here's Soros, baby.
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And I don't know if that's a sign of things to come.
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Someone who, again, Alex in present day said he has been watching since 20 years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it's interesting.
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Maybe the reveal is close at hand.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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But it's interesting to hear his name come up and Alex be like, I don't give a fuck.
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In the same way that earlier in the episode, that caller brought up the tea party and he
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clearly had no awareness of how much that would change his life.
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Right.
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And shortly after, he has the same response to Bob Chapman bringing up Soros.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting.
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So now Alex earlier was talking about how his dad is friends with South African diamond
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people.
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Right.
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Which means he's a great guy.
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And now he's talking to someone who literally made his career off stealing gold from South
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Africa.
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Another great guy.
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They're an apartheid and lived in fucking Rhodesia and apartheid South Africa.
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You know what the biggest problem is?
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White farmers, they're not doing well.
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People want to take their land away, Dan.
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Bob Chapman is low key, maybe the worst person who's ever been on it.
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Yeah, for real.
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Like low key.
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For real.
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He flies under the radar because of the Reagan butt fucking stuff and how he has that like
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all shucksy voice the same way Ron Paul does.
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Yeah.
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The two of them have this unassuming character to them.
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But like you look into their careers, you see like, oh no, the amount of damage.
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Yeah.
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You guys might have been like on the ground floor involved in monstrous shit.
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Yeah.
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I would say that anybody who's deeply involved in business and lived in Rhodesia and apartheid
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South Africa then fled when equity was starting to come around and then got out of South African
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gold, probably because of that.
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Yeah.
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I think that you know on some level that you were really raping the people.
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Yeah.
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And so that's why I think that Bob Chapman has fucking brass balls to say this when Alex
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Jones brings back up South African diamond people.
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It's another example of a total skin, a total cartel.
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Absolutely.
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There's enough diamonds in the world to bury it.
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I mean intrinsically they have little or no value.
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And that value has been created by De Beers and others, but particularly De Beers, which
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is controlled indirectly by the royal family.
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They're the ones who financed all of the projects in South Africa and they're the ones that
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used Madison Ave tactics, especially during the, after the turn of the 21st century.
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These guys were raping differently than me.
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Just a different commodity.
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That's no good.
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I mean, look, the more expensive diamonds were, the less people are paying attention
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to gold.
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They were fucking me over De Beers.
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Also owned by the Royal family.
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Did he even mention which Royal family?
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Like the Danish Royalty?
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That actually sounds right.
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They fucked around with people for a while.
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The Dutch went crazy.
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Dutch is what I meant to say when I said Danish.
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Yeah.
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That's probably true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Much more like that is in the running.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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The South African apartheid opportunist critiquing another one.
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And they didn't do it good enough.
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But the argument that they're making is absolutely true in as much as like artificial scarcity
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is what drove diamond prices and has for a very long time.
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They would not be as expensive as they are if the supply that actually existed were all
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made public.
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And of course the amazing ad campaign, that whole concept of two months salary or whatever
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it is.
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Every kiss begins with Kate.
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What are you talking about?
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Why is that a tradition?
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Did it exist before 1965?
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No.
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He went to Jared.
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Did he go to Jared?
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I don't know.
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These are just the diamond commercials I remember from my childhood.
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So what do diamonds do?
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They're shiny.
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No.
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I mean they're great.
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They shine bright like a diamond.
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No.
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They're like great in saws.
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They inspire Rihanna songs.
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They're really great.
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Like diamond tipped saws.
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They're incredible.
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Certainly.
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Shouldn't we use them for saws?
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I think they do exist in a lot of... I mean they definitely have utility in them.
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Shouldn't we use them for the movie franchise saws?
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No.
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That should go the way of Rhodesia disappearing.
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Too many saw movies.
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Yeah.
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I mean I know there are like actual functional uses for diamonds.
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Yeah.
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They're great.
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Hardest material and shit.
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But in terms of yeah like the bright and shine whatever for wings, who cares.
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People have those basaled out.
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It's crazy to think that humans came from monkeys that were so shocked by shiny things.
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Come on, Dan.
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I would say they're the best thing that has ever come out of diamonds.
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What?
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Two things.
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One, the song Grills by Paul Wall, Nelly.
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Nope.
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Not going well.
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This isn't going to happen.
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I can't remember who else is on that song.
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You're dangerously close to a minus one, Dan.
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My second thing that diamonds have brought us.
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Okay.
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The song Bling Bling by BG featuring Lil Wayne, Manny Fresh.
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This one's better?
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Baby.
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This one's better?
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The remix is better.
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By virtue of having Lil Wayne on it, it's better than your previous song.
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The Bling Bling remix is much better than the original.
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The original is kind of a snooze.
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I'm not sure if that's true, but I'm fine.
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They just started out, man.
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I think it was Manny Fresh's lyric, his verse where he talks about how they-
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It's a really bad name.
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They put rims on a helicopter.
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I thought that was really fun.
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I love Manny Fresh.
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Fresh.
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He's the best.
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He is the best of that sort of world of that New Orleans hip hop producers.
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Manny Fresh's sound is just so fucking good.
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It bangs and has like a really symphonic quality to it.
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He's very, very good.
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I'm never less than shocked that you know so much about a guy like Manny Fresh and that-
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I love it.
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And yet you could not name like a J Dilla track.
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Not one.
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It's astonishing to me.
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You know what it is?
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It's compartmentalization.
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What is it?
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It's compartmentalization.
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There is like I was super into one thing at one time in my life and I learned everything
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I could about that thing and then I started to like other things and I found everything
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I could about that thing like in terms of pop culture.
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And J Dilla is one of those artists who like I've loved every time anybody's played anything
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of his work for me.
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But I don't give a shit.
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Which I feel bad about because I know he's very talented.
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You can't feel bad about something that is not your it's not your fault.
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It's not like- I should like it more.
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No that doesn't make any sense.
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I don't I don't accept that argument.
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I should like something more that's relatively inconsequential.
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If I had him up in a bracket against Manny Fresh.
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No of course.
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Fresh is going over.
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Yeah no you would definitely do that incorrectly but you would do it.
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I respect that.
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God dammit.
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Real Big is such a good song.
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House real big.
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Dick real big.
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That was actually the first song from a Real Big Fish's album.
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He has a lyric.
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That's that's your that's your ska that's your 90s hip hop put them together.
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He has a lyric in that song.
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Push that button microwave oven.
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No idea what that means.
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I love it.
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Push the button no.
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Well that was before they had the express option on most microwaves.
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So you'd have to push like one and then zero zero to get a minute.
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Yeah.
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Like you can just press one and get a minute back then.
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No I think he's talking about how he in his car he has a button he presses and a microwave
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oven pops out.
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That's how I imagine it.
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That doesn't sound right at all.
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He also produced all the good stuff from Young Jeezy.
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That's not that's not that's that's solid work then.
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Especially the production of it.
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Yeah absolutely.
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I wouldn't say that Young Jeezy is a bad rapper or anything but that like I love it.
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That was Manny Fresh production.
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OK.
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He's a great producer.
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All right.
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Anyway let's stop talking about Manny Fresh.
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I don't know how we can.
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God damn the big time was so good.
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Stop it.
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One of the great things about the big timers.
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They pretended that all of their albums were sequels to each other.
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So like they would have albums like I got that work part one and then I got that work
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part two.
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That doesn't sound right.
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They weren't sequels to each other at all.
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Like Brockhampton.
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They have Brockhampton one, Brockhampton two, Brockhampton three.
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They did it first.
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I'm fine with that.
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I don't need this.
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I don't need this.
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I don't even know if I need this conversation.
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Manny Fresh was so better than Baby in terms of the big timers.
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Anyway let's move on.
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All right.
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So earlier in the episode Alex was teasing that he's going to have this Janine what is
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her last name Roberts Janine Roberts is going to be on talk about her diamond shit.
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Yeah documentary.
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And like we've already talked about the idea that there is artificial scarcity is absolutely
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true and it is a corrupt market.
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Question does she have at least six teeth made out of diamonds because she had her teeth
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knocked out.
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Well so of course the only logical thing for her to do then would be to get a diamond grill.
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Rob the jewelry store tell them make me a grill.
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I don't know much about Janine Roberts but I'm guessing that she would cause a cold front
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if she takes a deep breath.
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So much ice on her teeth.
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I got one I call penny candy.
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You know what that means.
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How dare you.
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Jelly and beans.
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My big mama hate it but my little mama love it.
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So is this show about Alex Jones.
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Sometimes I wonder.
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I think today it's about you doing impressions and me getting a lot of rap shit out and I
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don't know why.
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I don't know either.
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I don't know why you're doing impressions.
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I don't know why.
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I don't know why I'm talking.
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I don't normally do impressions.
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I don't know why I'm talking about all my rap stuff but I love it.
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By Young Jeezy.
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Yes.
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Produced by Manifraction.
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So she is talking.
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Somehow at the end of that you get a plus one.
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I don't know why.
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I don't know why.
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So I don't care to listen to too much of her interview because I sort of implicitly agree
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with a lot of the stuff that she's saying.
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You know like the idea that this is a corrupt business that is mostly using artificial scarcity
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to rise up the prices of this thing in order to quarter markets.
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Yeah like OPEC.
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Because diamonds aren't available in every part of the world.
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Same with oil for sure.
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And Alex doesn't make that connection at all which is weird.
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But the only thing I want to bring up is that like I said he's over the course of this episode
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at least five or six times he's talked about how she got beat up and then the people who
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are beating her up said hey don't bring this documentary out.
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And so now he asks her about that in the documentary or in her interview and it's not good.
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Here we go.
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Now specifically going from memory here didn't the gang while they were pounding you tell
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you did not make the you know not release the film?
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I don't like that sound.
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No they used personal insults.
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So no.
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They used personal insults.
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They insulted me.
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Oh.
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So she goes on to say that lawyers came to her when she was in the hospital and tried
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to get her to sign over the rights to her documentary.
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But she in no way connects the beating to the people who came and talked to her.
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The lawyers for the production company the BBC who came.
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That is a coincidence probably.
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She just got her ass kicked.
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Alex is well it appears that it's a mugging.
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It appears that it's like you remember when Kim Kardashian got robbed?
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No.
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What?
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Something like that.
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I don't know anything about them.
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It was a couple of years ago.
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I don't remember all the details.
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I don't want to get into it.
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But like it's something like that.
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You know people who are like she's married to a lord.
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That happens sometimes.
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That hooligans break in and try- Kanye's a lord?
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Metaphorically.
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OK.
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Some people would make that argument.
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Alex would.
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He's a fucking god.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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Fuck you.
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You like his new shit?
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Like coming out in interviews?
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Let's not let's not go crazy.
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Trump loves black people.
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Hey you know what?
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You can divorce the like look some people still like Roman Polanski films and all Kanye
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did was say that slavery was a choice.
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It's better.
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He apologized.
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Yeah who gives a shit?
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He's no Manny Fresh.
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Who gives a shit what he says and then what he apologizes for?
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I don't understand who gives a shit.
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I'm bummed out that his most reasoned what EP technically called it an album but it had
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a couple of tracks that were great and then the rest of it was just not up to snuff.
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Well I think the more important thing is that you should recognize that he's using the exact
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same Alex Jones tricks in order to gin up popularity and publicity for his projects
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that he puts out in the same way that Alex Jones does like sensational bullshit in order
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to get you to buy his supplements.
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Kanye's doing that.
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Like the slavery comment that he made is horribly offensive but he did that because everyone
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would talk about it and he had an album coming out.
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He does this sort of shit all the fucking time.
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Who cares?
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Manny Fresh would never do something like that.
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I bet he would.
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No he wouldn't.
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Nah I bet he would.
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He's an artist.
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So we're done.
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Had he made My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy?
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Better.
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How dare you.
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He did.
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How dare you sir.
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He did.
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He's never done anything that even compares to Runaway.
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It's bullshit.
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It's an amazing song.
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I think Runaway is the pinnacle of Kanye.
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And I know...
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That's a crazy thing to say.
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I know I'm wrong but I stand by it.
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I don't want to...
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That's fine.
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That's fine.
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We're not going to get into this.
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As the kids say...
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We're not going to solve this tonight.
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As the kids say, don't at me.
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We've lost our minds, haven't we?
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Yeah.
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What is that song?
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Shine?
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No, that's not Shine.
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That song...
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Should I just go...
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Should I just wait in the other room until you're done with this?
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We got one more minute, full last call, two bad boys screaming alcohol.
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I don't remember what song that is, but it's the best.
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That's the best big time or song of all time.
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One thing that I love about your hip hop fandom is how complex and interesting the
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lyric structure that you always throw at it.
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That's good stuff.
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You stick with the soggy bottle...
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No, no.
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Ooh, no, no, no, no.
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What?
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Nevermind.
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What?
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Pass.
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Pass.
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I'm out.
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Do you want me to bring over the rest of this?
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Nope.
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No, no, no, no.
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I'm out.
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All right.
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Nevermind.
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Let's get through this.
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We have one more clip from Tea Party Day.
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Yeah.
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And I'll say, it doesn't bring up Tea Party once.
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Not once.
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Not once.
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Seems like if it was in 40 cities nationwide...
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Zero times.
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And it was...
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It's almost like the mainstream media in America really not talking at all about how there's
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a prison strike going on currently.
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Strange.
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Yeah.
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It's almost the same way.
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Alex is kind of giving a... ignoring...
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It should be something he covers, and he doesn't.
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He's even been, like, warned?
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Warned.
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He's been brought...
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Like, it's brought up on his show a couple days before.
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Doesn't do any coverage of it.
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Doesn't bring it up once, but he does have someone by the name of Barbara Lowe Fisher
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on the show.
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Now, she is a very relevant... and when I mean relevant, I mean, like, in that world.
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She's the heiress to the Fisher-Price Foundation, right?
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Incorrect.
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No.
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She's not like toys.
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She does have a concern about something that involves children, and that is vaccination.
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She's a very big anti-vaxxer.
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This is still in 2009, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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Alex was always on that anti-vaxx tip, though.
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Man, you guys gotta stop that.
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He's always... he's, like, from the jump, he came out the woo-manti-vaxx.
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I really don't think that's a good idea.
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It's not good.
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So, the...
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Can somebody give him smallpox?
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I mean it.
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Just a little bit of smallpox.
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What about mousepox?
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Can't give him mousepox.
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Cowpox.
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Can give him cowpox.
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That's true.
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You were right, actually.
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Medically speaking, you are...
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I know!
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You didn't know that.
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I probably knew that.
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That's a lucky guess, fuck you.
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I don't care to talk about her interview too much, because it's the same standard anti-vaxx
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nonsense.
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I just want to play this clip, because it's so disqualifying.
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The fact that she's making this argument, she's coming onto Alex's show to talk about
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anti-vaccination stuff, and the fact that this is a piece of her narrative means that
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she doesn't know anything.
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Vaccines are made out of bees!
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If the vaccines are as effective as the companies said they are, and the government has said
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they are, then you should have said them vaccinated should have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated,
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and there shouldn't be such an issue about forcing people to get vaccinated if they don't
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want to.
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That doesn't track at all.
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That doesn't track even the slightest bit.
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It's such an indication that she has no fucking idea what she's talking about.
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Now, to anybody who hasn't heard the times we've broken this down a hundred times before,
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there are people who can't be vaccinated.
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Like for example, pregnant women can't get vaccines.
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Or people who just, their bodies reject the vaccines.
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It's not a perfect science, and there's a lot of people who are at risk.
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There is a very real possibility of bringing polio back into the mainstream conversation.
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Nah, nah.
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It's possible.
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The vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated, damn.
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If we lived in a world where everybody could get vaccinated who wanted to, perhaps you're
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correct.
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Perhaps that is correct.
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And that's why it's an appealing argument to people who don't understand the details
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of it.
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Like, it's crazy to me.
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It's crazy.
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Like, if you are an anti-vax person, you can't make this argument, because you look like
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a fucking idiot.
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It means that you don't know the basic science behind vaccines.
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Well, if there's one thing I know about viruses, it's that they never change or adapt to any
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kind of treatment.
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Nope.
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That's something that everybody has known about viruses from the very beginning.
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That as long as we got one, we're done.
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That's the old viral slogan.
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One and done.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Remember when FDR had polio?
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Sure.
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That's the end of that sentence.
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Okay.
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So where did Howe done with the tea party day?
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Yeah.
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Didn't bring it up.
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Nope.
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And so when I was listening to that, I was like, that's pretty fucked up.
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He spent the entire day that the tea party was happening when he was, I mean, that's
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Friday.
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He's on air for four hours.
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Yeah.
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He could have done it at any point.
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Should have known.
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Instead, he just brings in Steve Shank to talk about the economy when he sells weird freeze-dried
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food.
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You got shanked!
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He brings in Bob Chapman to talk about shorting stocks.
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Get them chapped lips out!
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Brings in this Diamond Janine Roberts lady to talk about, again, she has some fine points,
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but all he really wants to talk about is how she got beat up and told not to make the film,
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which she in the interview says, nah, it didn't happen.
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Do you know who she's married to?
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Lord Diamond Dallas Page.
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Her last name is Roberts.
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God damn it.
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You should have said Lord Jake the Snake Roberts.
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Come on.
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No, because you started with this Diamond lady.
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God damn it.
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Diamond Dallas Page was out at All In last night.
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Really?
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As we're recording this.
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Yeah.
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I have no idea what that means.
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Here in Chicago, there was a big independent pro wrestling event.
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It's very important to the world of wrestling.
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Sure.
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Wait, he was in Chicago?
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Yeah.
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He was at the Center Center.
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Diamond Dallas Page?
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He's got to be like 50.
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Yeah, but he's doing great.
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He's now the master of Diamond Dallas Page yoga, DDP yoga.
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He saved a bunch of wrestlers' lives by getting them sober and into yoga.
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He's awesome.
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Diamond Dallas Page is the coolest.
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That's actually great?
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Yeah.
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He is.
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I don't know.
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Is there a downside to that?
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I feel like he's great.
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If anyone who's listening to this hasn't done this, I recommend everybody.
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Just Google.
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No one has done this.
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We have a lot of wrestling fans.
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Okay, fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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But if you haven't and you want to get inspired, Google, not Google, go on YouTube and look
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up DDP yoga.
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There's a number of profoundly inspirational stories of people who have severe injuries
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or they were super overweight, but they love Diamond Dallas Page, so they decided to try
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his yoga and then they lose so much weight, get mobility back.
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It's crazy how he's helping people.
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That's fantastic.
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And then also the-
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And there's no cult element involved with it?
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I don't think so.
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That's nice.
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I think he's pretty chill about it.
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Do not search DP yoga.
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No, don't do that.
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Don't do that.
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Add the D. DDP yoga.
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Also Scott Hall.
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Also don't add the D in that.
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All right.
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Never mind.
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Scott Hall is one of the best pro wrestling minds of all time.
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With Kevin Nash, he was the Outsiders.
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The two of them were like, they revolutionized wrestling.
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They were WWE.
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That sounds right.
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They were WWF guys and then they went over to the WCW and in doing so pretended that
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they were invading the WCW.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Well, the World Wildlife Federation has always wanted to do that.
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This is before the lawsuit.
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But the storyline of them coming in as Outsiders who came in to wreak havoc, the whole time
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they were like, we got a third guy who's on the inside.
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And then it was revealed to be Hulk Hogan and it became the NWO.
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Right.
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Yeah, of course.
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It was one of the biggest, coolest things in wrestling in the 90s and-
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Yeah, I recall Hulk doing stuff.
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So Scott Hall afterwards, much later in his life, got fucking strung out on everything
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and a horrible alcoholic on the brink of death.
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You can watch some matches that he did in independent circuits where he just was wobbling
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on his feet.
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It's embarrassing that they let him do this.
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Right.
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Did somebody jump off the top rope and then he grabbed his brown bag and looked at it
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and then tossed it into the garbage can?
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Might as well.
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But it's so much sadder.
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He was going to die and DDP came in, got him some yoga.
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He was unable to get sober through all of his life and now he's pretty healthy dude.
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He brought him back from the brink of death and there's other guys, Jake the Snake's another
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one who does DDP yoga.
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It's awesome.
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I don't know if it's awesome, but the stories are amazing.
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Now, the only reason this all has come up is because all in the last night, this is
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biggest independent wrestling thing.
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They sold out the Seer Center.
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It's crazy.
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No shit.
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Wow.
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That's a big deal.
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In 20 minutes.
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Jesus.
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No independent wrestling thing has ever done something that huge.
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I'm going to have to try yoga.
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The only reason that DDP is involved at all is because he was part of the entourage.
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Cody Rhodes, he was in a match for the NWA championship and Cody brought DDP, Glacier,
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I can't remember who the other guy was, as his entourage and in the middle of the match,
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DDP gave someone a diamond cutter.
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Of course.
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It was awesome.
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If DDP shows up, he's going to give a diamond cutter.
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I didn't watch the whole thing, but I saw that gif and I loved it.
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Oh, Tommy Dreamer was the other guy in his entourage.
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ECW standout Tommy Dreamer.
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Let's stop this.
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Great work.
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Oh man, last time when you went on the rolling tangent, you got a plus one.
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This time you get a negative one.
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God damn it.
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We're back at even.
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Yeah, but all in gets a plus one for achieving something.
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Anyway.
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DDP gets a plus one.
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Yeah.
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That diamond cutter.
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Smooth.
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Smooth.
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Even now as a 50 year old man.
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Anyway, I thought to myself after listening to the 27th, I thought to myself like, well,
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maybe Alex didn't realize the importance of this and only would know in hindsight.
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So that was on Friday.
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Maybe his Sunday show is going to be like, holy shit, I didn't realize people were going
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to turn out in 40 cities and this was going to be like, maybe there's going to be like,
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I'm going to pretend I was on board even though like I was busy on Friday.
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No, I remember Fox News had like round the clock coverage of people being on there.
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They had people remotely on the scene.
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Citing the fact that there were like four guys there, they put a camera with a zero
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focus on the four guys.
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And so I was like, I got to at least check in on the first and a boy, I'll tell you what,
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not a whole lot.
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Alex admits that he has a land from a Mexican land grant.
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I don't know what to feel about that.
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I don't know how that works.
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I don't know if that's bad or weird.
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I don't know.
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I tried.
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So I reflexively don't like it and I don't understand exactly how I tried to look into
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it.
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And I still don't know.
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I still don't know how I feel.
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Beyond that, Alex says that back in the day, presidents would leave after eight years and
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go back to their farms.
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But Obama's not going to do that.
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As we look at it from 2018, seems like he's metaphorically gone back to his farm.
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He doesn't have a farm, so he can't really do that.
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The last one who did was Carter.
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And he didn't even go back to his peanut farm.
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He went to help other people build their own farms.
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He disinvested himself from his peanut farm, which literally was peanuts compared to what
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Donald Trump is doing.
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But what Alex is sort of metaphorically saying is that when his term is up, he's not going
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anywhere.
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He loves being in power.
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He's going to be the commander in exile.
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Perpetuity.
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Yeah.
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And he went away.
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Yeah.
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And the metaphor there is real rough when we consider what Trump is going to have after
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he gets out of office.
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There's no way he would.
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Or he ever gets out of office.
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It's amazing that, it's amazing how quickly he's going to lose all of his money.
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Like the only thing he has right now is access and influence.
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And the fact that he can't be indicted because he's the president.
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Because everybody hates him.
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Like the moment that he doesn't have access and influence, no one is going to give a shit
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about him.
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Yeah.
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It could be like real devastating.
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Yeah.
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He has to stay the president, otherwise he's going to go broke.
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Oh my God.
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It's almost like how dictators happen.
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It's crazy.
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Anyway, I was like, dude, are you gonna talk about this?
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Right.
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And so he starts taking callers.
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I'm like, maybe one of the callers is going to bring it up.
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Got it.
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When you talk to folks up there in the military, are they waking up?
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Oh yeah, I've got, I've got one guy that sits there and fights me on, you know, if you know,
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the difference between creation and evolution.
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It's all evolution.
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Oh really?
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Then why is it everything that they've always shown has always been false, but yet when
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he says that and he watches your shows, he has nothing to say.
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I even asked him the other night, I was like, what do you think about this stuff?
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I don't know.
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He says, you know, you're sitting here, you're showing them their own documents.
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Like you always preach their own documents.
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Exactly.
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So like civilian inmate labor camp program, army.mil, secret FEMA camps built, now they
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admit it with Americans already in them.
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God bless you, my friend, second hour straight ahead after the news and important announcements.
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Stay with us.
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So I mean like, okay, he's taking a call and this guy's like, I got some friends who don't
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fucking believe you, even though you put up all the documents, you prove everything, which
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Alex doesn't.
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That's just what he says and his listeners repeat it.
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And then he brings up the civilian labor camp stuff and like, man, that is real, but that's
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more about the private prison industry.
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Like that one.
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No, no, no.
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That's about the entire prison industry.
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Like that's a big issue.
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How is it that the constitutional amendment that was like, no slavery was like, no slavery,
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but like if you put people in jail, you get some slavery, which charge on them.
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Now they're slaves.
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Which definitely doesn't kind of, that kind of makes you, there's like an incentive to
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put people in prison who maybe shouldn't be in that prison.
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So that is real.
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You know, like that part's real.
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No, that's a huge issue.
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Then Alex immediately brings up the FEMA camps, which isn't real.
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And then he says, they admit there's already Americans in those FEMA camps and that's even
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further not real.
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So he's responding to this guy being like, Hey, I try and get my friend to love your
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shit even though you prove everything.
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And Alex brings up one thing, kernel of truth, two lies, two lies and a truth, like a party
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game.
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Still no mention of the tea party.
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Also, if your friend sees an Alex Jones video and goes, I have no idea what he's talking
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about.
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That is not because he disagrees or it's more like, it's more like, what?
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Yeah.
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Huh?
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Huh?
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Wait, wait, what?
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I mean, that doesn't make sense.
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I've studied this asshole for two years and I still have that response.
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Yeah, there's plenty of times where we're like, wait, I have no idea what you're talking
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about.
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Yeah.
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He's very confusing.
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Yeah.
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Probably intentionally so.
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I would assume so.
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Or he's a paranoid schizophrenic.
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So we have one last clip, although before it, I want to say that Alex also on this episode
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says that in the last year he's gotten 10 billion visits to his website and 170 individual
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people IP addresses coming to his website, which is too high.
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So in a year, 170 people from IP addresses that are 170 unique user IDs showed up on
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his website 10 billion times.
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Well, 10 billion hits.
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So on a daily basis, boy, if you, if you do that math in your head, I'm going to be impressed.
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But I also think that all of it's bullshit.
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It doesn't really matter.
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I mean, 10 billion in a year isn't crazy for like really large websites, but that's because
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like the top hundred websites, if you look at them are all places that have aggregates,
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like places like IMDB or Google or Facebook or Twitter, like all of those places, those
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are places that have like hundreds of billions of, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So like 10, 10 billion hits is absurd, but it would put him, that puts us at each individual
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person giving something like 1 billion or no, no, a hundred million hits per day.
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No, no, no, no, 170 million individuals.
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Oh, I thought you said he had 170 individual.
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I know.
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I was, I was losing my mind.
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Oh no.
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What?
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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That makes way more sense.
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Now listen, because that's one dude doing a lot of clicks.
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I've got the population of a thinly packed bar in Chicago.
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That's my fan base.
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10 billion.
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Okay.
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All right.
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170 million.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That makes way more sense.
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The math works out a little better in terms of them just constantly coming back.
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But 170 million also is ludicrous in terms of you consider the population of the United
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States is like what, 300 something million.
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Yeah.
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About that.
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That would essentially be spread out around the world, half of the population of the United
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States.
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And I cry dirty pool.
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I say absolutely no way.
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There's no way.
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All right.
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But I was like, still that has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
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I need something to be about the Tea Party.
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It's another caller.
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Like, maybe this will be about the Tea Party.
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Hmm.
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You know, I thought you were a kook about two years ago.
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And now.
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You are.
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You've run me over completely.
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Shouldn't have.
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I have to ask you one question.
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What is the underlying foundation for how you become so adroit?
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So yeah.
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You know, that's one thing I don't understand.
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Why are you so...
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History.
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History.
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History, sir.
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I'm sure you've heard the cliche that the more things change, the more they stay the
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same or that those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it or Lord Acton power
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tends to corrupt, power corrupts absolutely.
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I happened when I was about 12 or 13, 14 to start reading history books because they were
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much more entertaining than science fiction or Louis L'amour.
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Wait, you live in Texas, you should love Louis L'amour.
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Also, I thought you were six.
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But like, come on, man.
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That's like, that's pathetic.
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He goes on a really long diatribe after that about how great he is and how smart he is
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because he read all this shit when he was young.
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So no, he doesn't bring it up at all.
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Doesn't bring up the tea party at all on this Sunday episode.
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He's not on board.
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That caller might have had the order reversed.
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Like you shouldn't be 100% on a guy's side before you ask, how do you know all this shit?
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Well, no, because...
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Didn't your first question be like, why do you, why do you know all this shit and then
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be on his side instead of like working backwards?
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You're missing, you're missing what that guy was trying, I mean, he was trying to just
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hero worship.
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Right.
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It wasn't like, how does, how did this happen?
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There wasn't that.
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It was like, why are you so smart?
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That was still, even if you're trying to worship somebody, it was, it was, it was a like a
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peon coming to feel tea to their Lord, more or less, and Alex was more than happy to oblige
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with his standard, I studied things once I was 12.
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Yeah.
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Like, all right, dude.
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Have you ever read history?
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You've been wrong a hundred times just in the episode we've gone over.
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Like I know that this is like five episodes that we've covered in this episode, but like
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he's been wrong so much over and over again.
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And most of the time it's based on his lack of reading comprehension.
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Right.
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And what is, what is the problem?
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Well, last year he had 10 billion things he was wrong about in only 365 days.
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I don't doubt that at all.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Based on that.
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Yeah.
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A hundred and what would that be?
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Now I'm mad.
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I mean, it depends on how like, how fine tuned you want to get about what is wrong.
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Because every time he's wrong, there's probably like three reasons he's wrong.
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Yeah.
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That's a good point.
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It becomes a fractal.
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That's a good point.
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A fractal of wrongness.
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It's the golden number is what it is.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, this brings us to the end of this investigation of 2009.
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I'm fucking glad we finally got through this because boy, I'll tell you what, we put it
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off a bit and I feel bad that our listeners are kept teasing it and what have you.
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But I'm glad that we finally got to the tea party.
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Now the new adventure.
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What do you mean we finally got to it?
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He's he hasn't even addressed it yet.
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I'm talking about the literal date.
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Oh, okay.
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We've gotten to the date of the tea party breaking out.
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Right.
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And the new adventure becomes, how long does it take him for him to get on board?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How long does it take him to realize that Glenn Beck is making a bunch of money off
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this?
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, I gotta usurp that.
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Right.
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And then secondarily, how long does it take him to realize that Bob Chapman brought up
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Soros on this episode?
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Yeah.
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Does that lead to him soon from now bringing up Soros?
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Yeah.
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Or all of our narratives that we're trying to figure out all in play now that the tea
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party has happened.
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I have no faith that that's the case.
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Yeah.
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But I'm curious.
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You know, what's fascinating about this, like going this far back with this relatively nebulous
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of a goal here.
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Like we have a concrete-
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It's not nebulous.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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I mean-
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I agree, but I disagree.
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No, I mean the concrete narrative is when does he jump on the tea party?
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Right.
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The nebulous investigation is when does he jump on the Soros tip?
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But that could also be pretty concrete.
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It could be, but we don't know when it's going to be.
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So say he doesn't jump on Soros until 2011.
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Are we going to do a 2009 to 2011 investigation?
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I'm perfectly happy to.
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I know you are, and that's concerning to me.
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But I also think it's going to be much sooner than that.
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No, I like it when you go outside, Dan, and it seems like that's a-
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I like the outdoors, but look, I love camping.
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Harold's camping.
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A doomsday preacher.
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I hate camping.
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Yeah.
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I've tried to get you to go camping.
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I mean, I didn't go, but I suggested that we should.
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Disgusting.
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Disgusting.
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It'd be great.
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I'll teach you to fish.
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Ugh.
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I won't even eat it.
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I'll just catch it.
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I will eat it.
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I'll catch you some fish.
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I've been out there.
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I know how to throw a stick.
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I feel like this is a weird level of our relationship that I don't-
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Now listen, if it takes that long, it takes that long.
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Okay.
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But I honestly don't think it will because 2009 roundabout where we are is a pretty serious
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flashpoint for George Soros becoming an enemy of Putin.
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In the same way in 2014, it was another flashpoint.
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Those are two pretty seriously demarcated times when Soros was meddling, as they would
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put it, in Russian affairs by trying to give support to free speech movements in those
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states that used to be part of the Soviet bloc.
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And he was like, you shouldn't kill journalists on your birthday.
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Right.
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In 2014, it revolved largely around Ukraine, but before that, it involved a number of other
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states.
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So the theory that it could happen in two... I think there's zero chance that it doesn't
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happen pretty soon.
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Yeah.
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You think so?
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I do.
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I do.
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All right.
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And maybe I'm being pushed in that direction by the idea that Bob is bringing it up.
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Because I think Bob is also beholden to the same propaganda sources that Alex is.
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Yeah.
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So the fact that he's bringing it up leads me to believe that it's going to trickle downhill
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to Alex pretty quick.
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I would be interested to know when, because based on the way that the Tea Party thing
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has gone, it seems like he's a bandwagoner who insists that he's been there the whole
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time.
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Big time.
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He's a poser.
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I would be interested to know when the bandwagon got on the Soros tip.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I believe that Glenn Beck did a embarrassing report about him, I think it was in early
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2010.
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Okay.
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But I think that Alex... I have to-
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I really don't think that he was on it first.
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Yeah, it might not be the case, but I don't know.
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We'll see.
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We'll see.
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I mean, I love that we have mysteries in front of us.
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I think that we all kind of hoped that we'd get to the Tea Party day and we'd see actual
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engagement.
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Actionable results.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I honestly think this is better.
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The fact that he had no interest in it, and it was just, nope.
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Because I think it might take him a little bit longer to get on board with this.
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I think it might take him even weeks or months.
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Well, because ostensibly he's still, at this point, trying to posture as a libertarian.
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And so the Tea Party movement, while pretending to be libertarian, is essentially purely Republican
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white racism.
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But he doesn't know that.
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No.
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I think anybody who saw it knew it.
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I don't think he knows that.
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I think what it's going to take is he's going to get, and I've been wrong a bunch of times,
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but I think my prediction on the ground right now is that he starts to notice that Ron Paul
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is pretty Tea Party adjacent.
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And he starts to see people gaining traction from it, and he starts to see a lot of his
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worldview getting popular, and he's like, I'm not making money on this.
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There's money on the table.
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I should already be this.
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And then he retcons it to say he was there from the jump.
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So you think Ron Paul is an Arpez dispenser?
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A Ron Paul of the elders of Zion?
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You fucking lost me.
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Nah, never mind.
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I'm out.
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What?
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I tried.
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I tried to condense it into, never mind.
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Let's let that one go.
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But I will agree with you, even though I don't understand what you're saying.
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That's fine.
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Anyway, we'll see what happens in the future, but I'm glad we're through this leg of the
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woods.
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This has been fun.
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We have a website.
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It's called knowledgeright.com.
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Do we?
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We do.
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Oh, shit.
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Yep.
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Do we have a Facebook?
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We have a Facebook.
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Do we have a Facebook group?
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We do.
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It's called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
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We're also on Twitter.
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Are we?
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Yep.
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It's at knowledgeright.
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Mm-hmm.
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iTunes.
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And then you can probably find us on iTunes.
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I tried to get us on Stitcher, but it's too complicated.
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I'm confused by the directions.
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And also, I've heard a bunch of reports from people who have tried to use Stitcher that
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it's not very helpful for podcasters.
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So I don't know if that's true, but I've heard that feedback, and maybe I'm against getting
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on it.
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I apologize.
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And also, in any situation, we are not proactive towards expanding our listener base.
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Also, we can't get on certain things.
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We legit can't.
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There are a couple...
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Well, we definitely can't get on the Storm podcast website.
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No, no, no, no.
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No, that's not gonna happen.
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There's a couple distribution networks for podcasts that we can't get on because they
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would absolutely flag us for copyrighted content.
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This is fair use that we're just using Alex's clips and stuff like that.
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But whenever he plays the tracks and that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, the music and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's a good point.
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We're not running afoul of Apple Music or some of that stuff.
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That seems unfair.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, that's not our fault.
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Mm-hmm.
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We didn't do it.
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Yep, I know.
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Go after him.
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That's what they should do.
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But he probably has a contract.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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But anyway, Jordan, this has been fun going through 2009 with you.
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But there's one thing that we should not forget.
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And that is that even back then, he knows something.
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And that is that he probably killed a dude.
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Cindy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
