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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan, Dan, for a particular listener of ours.

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Shout out to Mike!

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Who made the recommendation after hearing that we had been novelty-ing less and lagunitasing more.

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Drinking a lot of lagunitas.

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Drinking a lot of lagunitas.

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We are now drinking Cherry Jane Sour Ale, brewed with Turkish Delight cherries.

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The Turkish Delight cherries is what really worries me, as someone who, I grew up, when

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I was growing up, big fan of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, the entire series,

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I loved it.

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Turkish Delight is terrifying if that's what you grow up with.

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Well no, see, I loved the book so much, because my parents were, they loved the Christian

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allegory, they were super into that as like, yeah this is better than, actually no, they

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like Lord of the Rings too, don't get me wrong, it wasn't like a one or the other thing, but

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they were super into me loving C.S. Lewis.

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So I was deep into it, and they kept talking, I always had this idea that like, Turkish

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Delight is what gets Edward to flip and go with the Ice Queen.

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Exactly!

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That's what I'm saying!

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Turkish Delight is so evil!

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Must be amazing!

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Yeah!

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And so I had, my mom was like, I'll make you some, you can make it, it's not hard to make

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Turkish Delight.

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And so she made it, and I'm like, this is disgusting.

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Yeah, how do you make, what is Turkish Delight?

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It's um, as I recall, it's sort of like a gelatin, it's like a little bit of a gelatin

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with a powdered sugar top on it.

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It's like a little treat, it's very sweet, don't get me wrong, it's not sweet as shit,

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but I did not find the flavors that great, and it's traumatized me to this day.

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Legitimately, same situation, except I've never actually eaten Turkish Delight.

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Like, whenever I found out that Edward was willing to sacrifice his entire fucking family,

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as well as Aslan, the fucking embodiment of God on this earth.

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Don't forget about Tomnis!

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Willing to, well, Tomnis can go fuck himself, but that's a whole different story.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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That's a whole different story, but he was willing to give it all up for some fucking

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Turkish Delight?

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It's weird.

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Nah, fuck off, man.

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Really, really shows the deprivation, the, uh, pevensies, we're living with beforehand.

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Oh, that's true.

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They didn't have a great childhood.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I agree.

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Um, so anyway, that's plagued me to this day, and you know what, I'll cop to it, I'll be

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- the version my mom made might have been terrible.

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That's entirely possible.

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But I found it to be really underwhelming, and so I'm not excited to -

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I think now is the time for you to take a sip, Dan.

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Alright, here we go.

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Furthermore, let me ask you a question.

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As far as C.S.

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Lewis goes, did you ever get into the other trilogy, the one about, uh, space?

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Like he had a whole different Adam and Eve allegory on Venus?

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I did not.

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I did not read that.

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I read a lot of other ones about, like, uh, like, uh, like a lot of those weird Christian

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apology books.

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Oh yeah, he had a ton of those.

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Like mere Christianity.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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A lot of those other ones that I thought I was really smart when I was, like, 14, reading

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those and talking to, like, the college, uh, K-Life leaders about, like, ooh, you're reading

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this?

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Ooh, isn't that cool?

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Oh, Dan, you're a little smart boy.

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Alright.

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Like, alright.

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Alright, you were being groomed, first off.

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No, definitely.

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That's not good.

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No, 100%.

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That's not something like Alex does, you know, like, pretending that I fully understood what

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C.S.

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Lewis was talking about.

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Right, right, right.

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The only thing I really even remember understanding, I was super thrilled that I understood it,

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like, must have been, like, 13, 14 or so reading it, and he was talking about the idea that,

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like, when you see a waterfall or something like that and you, you call it sublime, it's

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because it's responding to something within yourself and that's what you're recognizing.

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Um, and maybe it's because I'm not in a great mood, but this beer sucks.

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Maybe it's the same as looking at a waterfall.

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It is sublime.

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The opposite is sublime.

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It's not terrible.

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It's not terrible, but this is not my style of beer.

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It actually tastes like the band Sublime.

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No.

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It's not necessarily sublime.

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That's for loco.

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Yeah.

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Hold on, let me try this.

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It's not terrible, like I'm saying.

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It's not, it's just not my, it's not my steez.

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I'll drink it.

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I understand why someone would like it.

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Yeah.

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There is a lot of cherry.

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It's not so much Turkish Delight.

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I'm not getting Turkish Delight, but.

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It's like a, it's like a, whenever you get a Coke and you're like, I would like a cherry

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Coke and they're like, we don't have cherry Coke, but we'll put a cherry and some cherry

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shit in the Coke.

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And then you also put in some alcohol.

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Like that's what it is.

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The second sip was better.

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Yeah.

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Look, it'll be good cause it'll.

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The second sip is always better.

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I'm not going to chug these, so that'll be, that's positive.

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That's nice.

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Yeah.

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We'll be sober for most of this podcast.

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Perhaps.

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Yeah.

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So today, Jordan, we're doing an emergency episode.

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That's why you have something in your feed here on a Saturday.

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Oh no.

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And the reason for that is there's a lot of chaos in Alex Jones' world and Info Wars land.

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And this is a rare instance where you do know what we're talking about.

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Yeah.

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I couldn't avoid it.

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It's really hard to have avoided.

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It's on, it's in most news sources.

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We're running articles about this and everybody's kind of missing the point a little bit.

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What?

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I don't think we've ever said that about the mainstream media covering this before.

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I'll say that I did run into a couple articles.

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Not mainstream media, like people who watch it.

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I don't know.

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There's a couple articles that I ran into on like Slate and Gizmodo, I believe were

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the two that stood out to me that were like, this is bullshit.

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You know, like this is.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They were calling.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They were, they were making the right argument.

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That is that this is, to quote the great singer Jojo, too little, too late in terms of any

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kind of punitive measure against Alex Jones.

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For those listening who don't know, which because Jordan knows, I can't imagine anyone

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not knowing.

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Yeah.

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But this, at the end of this week, this last week on Thursday and Friday, Alex suffered

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a couple of meaningless blows.

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He had on Thursday, he had some videos taken down from YouTube and he had his streaming

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band on YouTube on his channel for 90 days.

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Oh no!

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And I saw that as like, bleh, who cares?

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This is like, it doesn't matter.

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He had four videos taken down, he can still post anything he wants and the streaming stuff

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doesn't really matter.

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He gets like 4,000 viewers on a stream, right?

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If that.

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Yeah.

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That's even, that's high.

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Yeah.

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But then on, so I just sort of dismissed him like, we don't need to cover this.

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Although I did listen to Thursday just in case there was a blow up and he was acting

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a little silly, but I think it was because he realized that like, I'm gonna get so much

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money from this.

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Oh, of course.

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This is gonna be so great.

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I got a narrative.

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Now, we're fighting against it.

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They're trying to shut me down.

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If you don't give me money now, they're gonna do the job for good.

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What these people are doing is more or less baiting his hook for him.

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Yeah.

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Like for people, bait, that's wrong because it's only gonna work for people who are already

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in with InfoWars.

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Yeah.

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What he really is is like tightening the grasp that he has on people who have already bought

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his bullshit.

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Right.

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Now, to some extent, I go back and forth on this, whether or not that matters.

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You know, like if those people are in, you're not gonna get them out no matter what you

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do.

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Right.

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So I don't know if that's necessarily a negative.

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I don't know if you should allow that to color your judgment if you're one of these Facebook,

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YouTube, Twitter places.

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I don't know.

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I do know that doing what they are doing is stupid.

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So on Thursday...

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Yeah.

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It's an alley-oop to his financial dealings.

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More or less.

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Yeah.

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So that was Thursday and I was like, eh, we don't need to cover that.

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And I was in a bad mood on Thursday and so I couldn't do an episode.

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And then we're recording this on Friday and today or maybe even last night, Facebook decided

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they were going to get in the mix.

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Everybody's having a good time.

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I believe, my convictions tell me that it's because they're cowards and YouTube made a

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move and then they're like, well, this gives us cover to do something.

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But also we don't want to do too much.

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So everyone's reporting it as like Alex Jones kicked off Facebook for a month and no, there

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was his personal account that got banned.

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Like right before we started recording, I went on the Info Wars, still has a blue checkmark

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on Facebook.

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So does the Alex Jones public figure account.

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That's not even taken down.

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Okay, the Alex Jones public figure account is fine, but the Alex Jones private figure

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account.

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Yes.

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His personal account.

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We've got to censor this shit.

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I mean, everybody that knows you is on your Facebook group.

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They're going to be, fuck off.

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This has no impact whatsoever.

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This is meaningless.

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He can just run those accounts through someone else's personal account or just be like, hey,

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Rob Do, you got a new job for a month.

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Yeah, they might as well just run an advertisement saying, guess what?

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You're the globalist, we have no power at all, but you are now able to advertise off

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of us forever.

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We only have an interest in covering our asses slightly with this sort of PR optics move,

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but that really is advantageous to you and your rhetoric and all that.

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I mean, in their defense though, it's advantageous to the both of them because they got a shit

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ton of press for 360 win.

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Exactly.

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They got a press for being like, we're going after Alex Jones.

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Alex Jones gets press for them going after him.

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Nobody actually did anything, so it's all meaningless, but everybody's going to make

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slightly more money, I guess.

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I guess.

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Pathetic.

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It's kind of almost like they all know that and they're all sort of playing the exact

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same game where everyone hedges their own bets and no one really makes a move and the

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people who get hurt are...

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You know, humans.

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You know, the humans people.

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Right.

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The people whose rhetoric Alex actually affects, the people who he's demonizing and things

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like that.

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That's the people who get hurt.

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Now, I've been a long time proponent of don't kick Alex off things unless he's committing

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a crime or whatever.

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Which we have discovered and he's done in the past.

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Somewhat, yeah.

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I don't know if financial crimes count.

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I don't know.

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It's not my job to figure that out.

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Capitalism.

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I hate to punt on it because I should have an opinion, but I don't really because I don't

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run Facebook.

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I don't run YouTube.

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That's not my decision to make.

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And quite frankly, if I did run them, I would have kicked him off long ago.

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Right.

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Like, it's not a question now should he be kicked off.

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Right.

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No, he should have been kicked off fucking years ago.

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Right.

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It's absurd to even ask the question.

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We need to impeach Trump now because of the Russia shit.

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No, we should have impeached him the moment he started because of the emoluments clause.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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It's an absurd question to be asking because the answer, it doesn't reflect reality.

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Yeah.

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I mean, if you ask me what I would do in this situation, I would say I would never let myself

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be in this situation were I Facebook or YouTube or any of those things.

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You pull the weeds up from the root, you don't snip a little bit of their leaves.

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Sure.

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And whatever financial incentive any of those platforms have to have him on is dwarfed by

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other video game channels that exist on YouTube or any of those things that aren't disgusting

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rhetoric.

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You know, I mean, although that's not entirely true for video game channel.

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That's true.

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As we've discovered many times in the past.

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I'm thinking of like some benign ones, some that are just like, hey, why is Stardew Valley

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great?

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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That's great.

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That's fantastic.

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Two million views.

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Yeah.

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Enjoy your life.

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Perfect.

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That's fine.

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Or those weirdos who try things, you know, like whether it's my dear Irish friends.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Irish people react to stuff.

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Or the Buzzfeed version or any of that.

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Like that has millions of views on all of their videos.

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Great.

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Also, I'm very pissed off about because I came up with that idea at least a couple of

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years before Buzzfeed started doing it and I pitched it to Groupon back when I worked

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there.

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Really?

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Yeah, as like I will go try all of the Groupon live experiences and make a YouTube video

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that capitalizes on fear of missing out, that whole human instinct.

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I'm a comedian.

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I'm a funny guy.

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It'd be fun.

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Why not do that?

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Because it's free news.

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It's free marketing for Groupon's shit.

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And they were like, more or less.

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They were like, they were like, Dan, stick to Data Emcery.

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We don't give a shit.

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So, I mean, look, my pattiness aside about that, those videos get far more views than

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Alex.

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Of course.

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So all that stuff, it doesn't really make sense to me.

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I think it's stupid.

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I think that what you do now with this, this Facebook penalty and this YouTube penalty,

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All you're doing is taking away your own credibility

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and your own ability to deal with this

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in any way in the future.

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All you're doing is making it very clear

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that we will punish you in symbolic wrist slap only.

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Yeah.

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And nothing more.

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It's,

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it's de-toothing to some extent for their own.

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It's kabuki theater.

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It's pathetic.

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That's insulting to kabuki theater.

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Yeah.

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It's a legitimate, wonderful art form.

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Yeah, that's true.

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So I think this has sort of said most of my piece

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about these two bands and how like all they really do

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is just play into Alex's hands.

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But the one thing that I thought was interesting

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was when I heard that his channel

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was gonna be banned from streaming,

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I was like, I don't give a shit.

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He doesn't really stream on his own channel anyway.

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That goes through the Ron Gibson channel.

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And so I was like, well, he's just gonna do it there.

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So on Thursday I checked in and Ron Gibson's channel

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had also been banned from streaming.

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Ooh, but that's not in the news.

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And that made me think like,

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oh, maybe they are taking this fairly seriously

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and trying to chop off the little tentacles

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where it's like,

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oh, you're clearly getting around the ban here.

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But Ron Gibson's channel had been,

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so it had been shut down.

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Yeah.

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So he just started a second channel

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and posted a link in his page to like,

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here's where the videos are gonna be streamed from now on.

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So on Thursday, that was fine.

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Yeah.

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So I checked in on Friday and I was like,

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well, he's clearly gonna be streaming this.

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Let's see what's going on.

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Right.

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His second channel had been kicked off of streaming.

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So they are taking that end of it kind of seriously,

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which is fine.

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But again, as we already pointed out,

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he doesn't really have that many people

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watching the streams.

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But interestingly,

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because his second channel had been kicked off of streaming,

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Ron Gibson then took it to Twitch.

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So he jumped to Twitch.

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Okay.

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So today on Friday, his episode was streamed on Twitch.

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But about an hour and a half in,

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Twitch clearly kicked the channel off.

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No shit.

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So he's having trouble like legitimately finding a home

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for streaming.

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Uh-huh.

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And I think what he's gonna end up landing on

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is probably something on like Gab or Vimeo

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or something like that.

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There's plenty of other options.

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Somebody's gonna let him go.

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Yeah, someone's gonna look the other way.

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But I did think it was interesting that like,

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that YouTube was at least taking into account

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the fact that he has multiple channels.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Good for them.

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Facebook isn't taking that into account at all.

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No, of course not.

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They're saying he has 15 Facebook pages.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Who cares?

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The Info Wars actual page is still up and running.

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The public figure Alex Jones page is still up and running.

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All of the Info Wars personalities are allowed to go.

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Like all that they did was they changed

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a little bit of the reach, I guess?

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No, I don't even think that.

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I think it's just the convenience of Alex's use

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of the platform.

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That's it.

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He's slightly inconvenient.

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He has to log into a different account.

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Right.

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That's it.

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So this all stems basically from a couple of videos

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that YouTube decided did not follow

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their community guidelines.

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And I can't prove that these are the exact videos,

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but Info Wars and Paul Joseph Watson posted an article

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that had the videos in question that caused the ban.

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Yeah.

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So there are four videos that got taken down.

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Mysteriously, there's only three on the article

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that P.J. Dubs posted.

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But I guess he's busy, and I'm not gonna really think,

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I don't think that's a conspiracy.

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But so one of them is Alex being really mad

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about a cartoon called Drag Tots,

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which is not really, it's not really for kids.

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It's a part of RuPaul's Drag Race, and.

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Uh, what now?

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It's like a.

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He got banned for a video about Drag Tots.

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He's commenting on Drag Tots.

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Drag Tots.

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Yeah.

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And he's saying it's sexualizing children.

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They're sexualizing toddlers.

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Right.

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They play the Drag Tots, and it really just,

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to me, I look at it, and I'm like,

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wow, this is just sort of a mix of My Little Pony,

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the new ones, like the art style of that,

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and then Muppet Babies.

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Sounds great.

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It's, I don't.

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Sounds fantastic.

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It's not for me, but it is what it is.

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It's not for you.

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Not really.

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Okay.

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I don't know, though, this doesn't really even rank

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in terms of Alex's anti-cross-dresser, anti-trans content,

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and how he conflates the two.

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Yeah, I was gonna say.

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It really doesn't even, like, it doesn't rank.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait.

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So Drag Tots was their line in the sand,

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not all of the other shit.

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Well, the only thing I can come up with

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is that the video does weave into

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some really dangerous territory,

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because he does run footage of children

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from a show about kids who like to cross-dress,

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probably some sort of, I don't know,

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AMC show or something like that.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Like mini human interest documentary series, maybe.

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I don't know.

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I don't know enough about TV shows.

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Right.

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I have no fucking idea.

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Of course.

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But he does show, like, run footage of these kids

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who are identified as, you know,

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they were on that show and it shows their names and stuff.

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And while he's running this footage,

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he does get into, like,

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a lot of his gross pedophile demon ranting.

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Of course, of course.

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But at the same time, I could see

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stupid people watching it identifying the people

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who are on screen as being as evil

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as Alex is screaming about.

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Okay.

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But at the same time, it's really nothing different

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than I've seen him do many times before.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I was gonna say, this is old hat.

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It is, it is.

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The pedophile fantasy shit

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we've been documenting for 10 years now?

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Yeah, more or less.

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Like from 2000, even from back from our 2009 episode.

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Well.

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It was extreme back then.

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Not as extreme, but it's still there.

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It's definitely more of a focus for him now.

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And that's probably just because

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it caught fire on the internet.

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Yeah.

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But the other thing is,

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so the second video is clearly over a month old,

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because Alex is clean-shaven.

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And all it is is Alex talking about

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Muslims taking over Europe.

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They're the worst.

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He's commenting on a video of a Manuel Macron speech.

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Can't be having that.

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It's nothing really different from his normal shtick,

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but he does say that after Muslims take over Europe,

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they're going to blow up the planet,

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and that Muslims are going to kill the entire world.

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It's cruel, it's manipulative, and deeply bigoted.

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But I've heard him say the same thing

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and worse so many fucking times in the past.

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So I don't care about that.

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So what's their plan?

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What?

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They're just going to take over the world

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and then blow it up, or they're going to blow it up

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in the attempt to take over the world?

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The implication that he makes,

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and this is, again, nothing new,

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is that whenever Muslims get in charge of something,

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they end up fighting with everybody,

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because they're somehow, I don't know,

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genetically incapable of peace.

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Weird.

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That's the implication of what he says.

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No idea.

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Horrifying, awful, bigoted, disgusting,

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not out of line with InfoWar's regular content.

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Yeah, no, that's like a-

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This is very standard stuff.

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That's like a Tuesday for them.

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Absolutely, it's nothing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So then the third one is a weird attempt at humor,

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where they've just stolen somebody else's viral video.

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So it's a little kid flexing on a grown man, right?

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Nice.

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And the man is joking around with him for a little bit,

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but after about 20 seconds,

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the kid starts hitting the guy,

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and then the guy grabs the kid by the neck

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and throws him to the pavement,

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and the kid starts wailing.

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I'm not a fan of anybody here so far.

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I'm not either.

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It's weird, and they're playing it

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with some weird music behind it, but-

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The Highwayman?

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Yeah, Silver Stallion.

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I could see an argument that this would be seen

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as child endangerment,

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but only because the video is titled

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How to Prevent Liberalism.

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Which implies-

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Violence!

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Duh!

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It implies in some way that the guy is standing up

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to the aggressive child that represents liberals.

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But I think what gets him four hours off the hook

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from my position is at the very end,

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Darren McBreen comes in doing a voiceover and says,

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quote, prevent liberalism, use condoms.

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Which makes no sense.

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None.

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It makes zero sense.

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None.

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In terms, I know it's comedy.

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I know it's an attempt at comedy.

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I was gonna say, you saying that it was comedy

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seems very generous.

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It's an attempt.

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I know it's supposed to be in that world,

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but I don't know what the joke is.

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Like if you use condoms,

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then that kid wouldn't be there, maybe.

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But that guy clearly wasn't the kid's dad,

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so that makes no sense.

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Is the implication that unsafe sex creates liberals?

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If so, how do conservatives get made?

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Because it's so stupid,

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and it's clearly a bullshit attempt at being funny,

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I give this a pass in terms of like,

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why you would ever censor their channel for it.

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I understand that if you are a right thing person,

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you'd see a video titled How to Prevent Liberalism

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and then a grown person assaulting a fucking child.

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It seems like that's more of a

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how to make people liberals.

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Conservatives are grown men fighting children.

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I think that some bad early reports on it

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might have implied that Alex was the adult in that video.

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Yeah, but he wasn't.

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Was he?

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No, absolutely not.

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But the reason that someone might make that sort of mistake

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is that Alex and that guy both have really shitty beards.

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I think the only person-

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It seems like Alex might do something like that.

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No, he absolutely would do something like that.

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I think the only actor that they could get

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to really pull that off,

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and I am assuming that that's who they got,

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Sir Ian McKellen, right?

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Sure.

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Was it him?

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It was not.

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Did he say, you shall not liberal!

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Boom.

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Yeah.

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No, it wasn't.

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And I don't know.

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The only reason that I think that there might be

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some validity to Alex's claims

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when he says that people said it was him

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is that I did see an article,

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I think it was on The Verge,

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that had a correction that said that,

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initially we reported that Alex was in the video.

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Right.

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And if you watch the video,

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there's no one else that he could be

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other than the guy who fucking throws the tape to the paper.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So my point about that is,

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everyone, stop covering Alex Jones,

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because if you're covering him,

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and you are any of these, even The Verge,

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I don't know if they're the most reputable,

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biggest name in news,

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but if you are in any way covering him,

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and you misreport that he is the person

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assaulting that child,

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even if you immediately make a correction,

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you have just given him the greatest gift

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you could ever give.

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You have to play very tight with these people,

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because they make a mountain out of a molehill.

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Of course.

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Any mistake you make about them

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is going to be played for such an advantage for them.

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So anyway, the argument that he's being kicked off

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for videos that incite bigotry, no shit,

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but he does that all the time,

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if you're going to make that a serious complaint

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you're levying, go through all of it,

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give him strikes for all that shit,

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and throw him off your fucking platform forever,

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and then go through and apply that same standard

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to everyone.

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Can't do that.

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Well, of course you can.

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Can't do that.

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You can't do that, and so they won't.

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They'll just give him these piss-ant slap on the wrists.

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Yep, further, I have heard the statement

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that he is being charged, or not charged with,

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but accused of child endangerment because of that video.

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Yeah.

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The child endangerment piece was never

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that he was the person in the video.

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He's making, he will later in this episode

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that we're going to listen to,

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make it seem like that's what people are accusing him of.

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It's more that the child endangerment aspect

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comes from him presenting this guy assaulting a child

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as sort of a positive thing, which is not good.

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It's how you stop liberals.

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And that seems to be his main goal in life.

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Beat it out of children.

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So there's that, and then the second,

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that first video about the drag tots,

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where he's getting into some really dicey territory,

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where he's doing his demon screaming over actual children.

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Yeah.

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That could put them in a position

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where someone might want to hurt them.

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I don't know if that,

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based on all of these social media places,

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actions in the past, merits kicking him off.

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But I mean, I get the arguments,

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and if you don't nut up and just actually kick him off,

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then just stop.

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Go fuck yourself.

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Just stop.

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All this is nothing.

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Daddy, shouldn't people be provided healthcare

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since we care about human beings?

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Get me a switch, boy!

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Go.

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It's brutal, man.

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He choke slams that kid down.

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Really?

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Yeah, it's horrible.

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And it's there, it's like an official video that they made.

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It's not like- No.

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It's not like they grabbed it.

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No, they stole it from someone else.

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It's a viral video that someone else put out.

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It's a legitimate viral video

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that has nothing to do with them specifically?

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Like, they didn't produce it.

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They didn't write it. Nope.

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They didn't do anything.

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Nope.

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They just stole it.

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All right.

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That could be a different- So that's, yeah.

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That's a whole different thing.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Copyright issues, I don't know, fair use.

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I don't give a shit.

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Who gives a shit?

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So anyway, I've taken the July 27th episode.

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I went over it because I have these feelings

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about Alex's place in life, all the drama,

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all of the articles that missed the point.

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And what I expected to find on the 27th

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was probably Alex screaming.

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It probably being like, the globalists are afoot.

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They're gonna take us down.

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Right.

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But what I instead found was what I more expected to find.

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And I think that over the course of this episode,

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you'll see exactly what I mean.

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I don't wanna tip my hand too much,

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but Alex, Alex is Alex.

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Here's an out of context drop from today's show.

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Did you hear Jones had a video taken down for N-word?

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What?

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What?

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Whoa.

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Just for N-word?

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Like, N-word had the video taken down,

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but Alex Jones took it down for N-word.

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On behalf of N-word.

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On behalf of N-word.

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I don't think that's what he's saying, but yeah.

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Also, I wanna do this real quick.

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I'm sorry we had that bit of a 25 minute intro,

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but before we get to today's show,

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I'd like to give a shout out to a new donor.

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And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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So as we know, my favorite person's name of all time

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is someone that you don't believe is real.

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That's my boy Scrump.

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But I have to give a shout out to a nice runner up

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in the great name division.

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I would like to say thank you very much

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for joining up with the team.

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You are now a policy wonk, Skeba.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much for joining up, Skeba.

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We appreciate it.

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If you'd like to join up and help support the show,

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you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the Support the Show button.

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Please do.

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Now, with that out of the way.

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Please do.

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With that out of the way.

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For a lot of reasons.

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So many reasons.

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So many reasons.

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If we get that put aside, and now we jump in today's show.

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The first five minutes of the show,

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because Alex Jones, how he operates is,

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the first five minutes is optional on a lot of stations

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that he runs, because a lot of them do news

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at the top of the hour.

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Right.

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So he has this five minute.

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Which is why we get so many great songs.

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Sure, no, not at all.

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Not at all.

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Not at all.

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This is just, the songs are just pure love.

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That's, I can tell you, that's random on the clock.

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Okay, all right.

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In 2009, that's just because he didn't really

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have much to say.

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Okay, all right.

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And he didn't have people telling him what to say.

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But now, because he has this clock that he operates off of,

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a lot of times the first five minutes of the show

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will be him just sort of doing a best of what's to come.

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And then, if Jon Bowne has a new video out,

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he'll play that at the top,

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and then come in six minutes later.

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Today's episode, Mark Dice is doing a little bit

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of little Mark Dicey business.

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Doing a little, hey, how you doing, I'm Mark Dice.

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Why is Mark Dice allowed?

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It shouldn't be.

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But, so, Mark, a lot of his videos are him

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doing really bad man on the street bits.

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Okay, before we go, and I know where,

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how is it, how is it?

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You don't know shit.

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No, no, no, I don't know shit.

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I mean, like, I know we've been over this 10 million times.

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And I know it's bullshit.

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But, fucking, if you're gonna go after Alex Jones,

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why isn't Mike Cernovich also top on the list?

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That fucking pile of garbage is, at this point, worse.

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Or at least more effective at getting James Gunn fired.

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Meh.

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Like, what else, like, what are we doing?

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But he's also, he's also.

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What are we doing?

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We're pretending.

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The issue with Mike Cernovich is kind of like,

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he knows his brand really well,

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and he's not gonna go after somebody

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that people will, like, really stand up for.

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You know what I mean?

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Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying.

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And the line that he's making on,

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like, with this James Gunn business,

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is so much like people, right thing people would be like,

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yeah, that's fucked up.

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Like, what he posted was really fucked up stuff.

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I know it is a joke, and, you know,

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you shouldn't be held to task for that,

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but I'm not gonna waste my energy on this one.

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He knows to do that.

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He overstepped.

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It seems like we're all on that level of, like,

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really, dude, of all the problems

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that we're gonna go with, that's tops of the list.

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Thanks, Disney, fucking fix your other shit.

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Well, Cernovich overextended himself

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when he tried to present those fraudulent documents

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about Schumer.

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Yeah, that's true.

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He did that, and him and Charles Johnson

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got sort of slapped down,

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and they kind of realized, like, okay,

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this is the level of con we can pull off.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's bigger issues that we could,

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like, bigger scams we could do.

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Right, right, right.

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We're gonna get in fucking trouble.

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The FBI is gonna get involved.

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Right.

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So instead, Mike Cernovich is just, like,

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who gives a shit?

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He's just a little asshole who puts out his periscopes,

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and then he spends all his time,

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or his minions do it for him,

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going through celebrities that they don't like's Twitter

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and trying to find things to be like, blah.

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Like, him and Laura Loomer were complaining

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about Patton Oswalt putting up a bunch of tweets.

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It's fine.

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That were, like, the Nazis were right.

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Oh, but they didn't put the context in there.

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Like, it was the second tweet in a thread

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or something like that.

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The theme was he was posting a bunch of tweets

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that were unfortunately cut off at exactly the right point.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So they took the second ones and were like,

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can you believe this guy was in Ratatouille?

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Yeah.

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And he's allowed to.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's like, come on, guys.

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You guys are children.

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You guys have such bad faith.

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It's such children.

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Like, that's all you do.

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You all just operate from a position of bad faith.

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You have no interest in what reality is.

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You just want to score points and shit like that.

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They're children.

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Yeah, exactly.

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They're in the backseat of a car, and they're like,

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Mom, she's getting in my space.

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You're fucking children.

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So to your question of why don't we deal with him,

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because I'm not that interested in him, period.

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Oh, I don't mean the two of us.

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No, I know.

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I mean, like, the rest of them.

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But I think that a lot of people are probably

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in the same position of, like, he's going to run out of steam.

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Like, I think even the right kind of

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sees through him a little bit.

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You think so?

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I don't give them zero benefit of the doubt.

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Zero benefit of the doubt.

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He had some big rally he was trying to put together,

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and like, four people showed up.

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That's pretty funny.

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Like, most of his traffic isn't real.

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Most of his supporters aren't real people.

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Or he just has people who are afraid to come out

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of their houses.

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Who knows?

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I don't know.

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Disney's a bunch of cowards, then.

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I don't give a shit.

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Yeah, good point.

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I don't think he shows up much anymore on Alex's show.

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I think the two of them might have had a falling out

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after that great CNN is ISIS business they put together.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So back to the-

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You have a good first album, and then you

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get the sophomore slump.

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That happens.

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That happens to everybody.

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So someone who's never had a good first album is Mark Dice.

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Nicely done.

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And so he starts off, and he's just

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doing this video where he's making fun of how

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Anderson Cooper and CNN decided to start doing

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some Facebook live streams.

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And apparently, there is a contract

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where they are putting out one a week on Facebook,

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one a day, Monday through Friday, as a new content

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creator on Facebook.

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And let's see if you can point out the point

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where this makes no sense.

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Later in the show, he was joined by Jim Acosta.

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And as you can see by the live viewer count here,

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they didn't even have 5,000 people tuning into the stream.

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And look at this.

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They're formatting the show vertically for mobile devices

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because apparently their audience doesn't

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know that you can turn your phone sideways

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and expand it full screen when you're watching media.

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Later in the stream, Anderson decided

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to answer some audience questions

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to make the show interactive.

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And by that time, the viewership had dropped down

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to under 4,000 people.

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So two times in 30 seconds, he points out

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how few viewers they have.

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Just as we know, I watch Alex's live streams all the time.

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They have like 2,000, if that.

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You know, this is a really bizarre line

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to take in terms of humiliating CNN or something like that.

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Also, with his voice, shouldn't he

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be wearing a green suit with dollar signs on it's belly?

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Yeah, what are you doing?

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You can get free money from the government.

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He is doing a real fucked up.

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If you see him on the street, he's not doing that voice.

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What is that voice?

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I think he thinks it's appealing.

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That's the only thing I can guess.

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What?

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4,000?

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He thinks it sounds cool.

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And then, I mean, the operating principle

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that's going on here is making fun of CNN

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because they believe, and maybe they're right,

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that CNN was behind them.

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9-11.

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Yes.

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Getting kicked off of Facebook in this wrist

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slap minor putative measure.

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CNN was behind it.

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Well, because CNN and Brian Stelter

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did do pieces about like, why has nobody

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done anything about this?

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Which is a fair question.

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But who knows if they actually had anything to do with it.

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I imagine they have better things to do.

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Well, you would hope.

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But who knows?

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Mark Dice, the report is terrible.

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Mark Dice is not going hard on this.

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Or perhaps Mark Dice is going too hard

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and doesn't realize that he has nothing.

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Like, he's a guy who's like, you know what?

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I'm really going to throw my fastball this time.

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I'm going to leave it all out on the table.

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And it is 74 miles an hour.

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Crazy.

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So that report is shit.

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And then we get to a commercial break

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after that before Alex comes in.

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And Roger Stone is singing a new tune in this commercial.

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We need you to go to the site now.

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nutraceuticals, please consider a contribution.

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$2,500, $50, $100, $250, even $500

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would be a godsend to our important work

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here to beat back the globalists.

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So I mean, they play a variation of that same commercial

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a couple of times.

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It's just Roger Stone straight up asking for money.

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If you don't want to buy our bullshit products that

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won't do you anything, how about you give us money

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so we don't even have any overhead on taking that money?

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That's a great deal.

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They've shifted things a tiny bit.

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Whereas I think they've probably,

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since all these lawsuits have been coming in,

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I think they are asking for just money, money, and shit

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like that.

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But it's very different.

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It feels weird.

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It's a lot more desperate than we're used to seeing.

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Yeah.

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And I don't know if it depicts actual desperation or just,

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I'm sick of this shit.

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Sales are down on my supplements.

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We do need some money coming in to look good.

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If we have no money coming in and our numbers are dropping,

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whoever is bankrolling the operation is going to be like,

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this isn't worth my investment anymore.

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I pay you to spout these narratives because

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of the people listening to you and who are engaged in it.

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Or even more likely, it's like if you're laundering money

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through a car wash that literally no one ever goes to,

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you're like, this is a little bit too suspicious.

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So if Alex has no listeners and somehow he's still

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got a $3 million studio, maybe you, yeah.

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It definitely is the sort of thing

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that investigators would be like, yeah.

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How is it that you have reported a profit of negative $1 million

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and yet you are rolling in a shit ton of money?

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Very strange.

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That's odd.

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So there's another commercial that.

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Tax evasion.

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There's another commercial that gets

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played that indicates to me a very strong glimpse at where

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Alex and the Infowars team thinks things are going.

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Hey, how would you like to take Infowars with you

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wherever you go?

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Well, now you can do just that with the new official Infowars

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app.

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And here's the best part.

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It is absolutely free.

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So they're pushing the app.

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Infowars app?

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I've not heard commercials for that all too regularly.

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Have they had one?

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I think they have, but it's been like a real piece of shit,

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like a real beta kind of app.

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I think they might have got it redesigned or something

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like that.

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But I think that they're starting

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to realize that like, you know what?

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They're starting, like, YouTube and Facebook

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are starting to give us slaps on the wrist.

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We can't afford to change our behavior.

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And Apple ain't going to do shit, baby.

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Well, there's that.

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That's a gamble that they're making,

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because they could just get kicked off the App Store

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really easily.

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That's true.

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Which I think is probably what would end up happening if,

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if everyone else started to make moves like realistically

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towards you're not allowed on our platform,

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they would end up just on Gab.

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Like that's all they would, and having

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to create their own places, which Gab was an attempt

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to do, that didn't work.

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Right, because it turns out there's actually

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not a lot of them.

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They're just so loud.

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Well, no, I think that there are probably

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a lot of people who go this way, let's say.

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No, I understand.

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But the problem is once you create

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those spaces that are specially tailored for this world, what

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you end up with is all of those loud shitheads in one place

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where they're not restrained from saying Nazi shit.

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They're not restrained from throwing N-words around

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and talking racist.

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Like it's sort of a gentleman speak freely kind of thing.

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And then once they do, they ruin it.

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And all the normal people are like, holy shit.

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I can't be a-

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We agree with you, but we can't be saying that shit.

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Either that or they don't agree with that.

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And they're like, look, I still agree with Infowars and stuff

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like that, but I can't be a part of this community.

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Like they dissociate that being what it's really about

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and what they think it's really about.

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And so anytime these like niche communities get started up,

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they end up drifting towards the fascist.

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They start drifting towards the bigot

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because that's what it's about.

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So it's an unsustainable marketplace.

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You can't grow unless more people become bigoted

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or more people are like, yeah, fuck yeah,

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which I guess is the same thing.

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So you end up with like, let's say,

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in terms of the Infowars audience, it's 25% monsters

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and 75% meh, stupid or tricked or whatever,

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or people watching it for entertainment value.

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You assume maybe those are the numbers.

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Once you get them all in the same place

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and not on Twitter where they're fighting against Twitter,

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you can sort of have a lot of issues

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get put to the back burner when you're fighting the system.

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Once you own the system and you're like,

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oh, all of my fellow compatriots

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really just want to drop 1488 references.

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I don't know about this anymore.

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That 75% is mostly gonna leave.

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You're gonna end up with maybe that 25 and 5%,

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10% that gets shifted, gets flipped over.

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Then you're left with nothing and the people who are left

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are so cancerous that no one has any entry point to it.

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Well, that's why the dog whistle has been so effective

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because of all the people that they push away

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actually agree with them,

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but they're not comfortable throwing the N word around.

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They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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I definitely want black people to be slaves,

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but I don't want to say the N word anymore.

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That's offensive.

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You can't make it too overt without alienating.

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That's how you get fucked.

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Because that's like looking in a mirror for these people.

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If they see that shit, then they have to then connect

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the ideas that they're throwing around where it's like,

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why is it that I agree 100% with people

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who are happily throwing the N word around?

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That doesn't seem like it reflects well on me.

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So I'm gonna leave this community

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and then I can comfortably be racist

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without feeling bad about being white.

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Somewhat.

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I agree with you,

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but I also think that the more important point

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is this is the truth behind all of the bullshit arguments

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that people like Alex,

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people like most of his guests and co-hosts have

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about the idea that Twitter, Facebook are monopolies

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on a social square,

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like the public square of modern times,

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which is bullshit, number one,

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that go talk to your friends.

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Could that, if you think-

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Oh, oh, they wish they could.

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If you think that the internet is the be all end all

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of public discourse,

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then I'm afraid that that says more about you

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than it does about public discourse.

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But secondarily, the idea that those are monopolies

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on this public space just speaks to,

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it's not because other things haven't tried,

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it's that other things have fucking failed

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because of intrinsic problems with groups of Nazis.

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Groups of racists come together

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and they alienate people on the fence.

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And that's why you can't have those sort of communities.

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That's why Stormfront has like their community

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and the members who have been there,

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but I don't think there's a lot of new members,

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except for people who would already be going that direction

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and are just coming of age to be on the internet.

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Yeah, gamer game.

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Wow, that's a whole other thing.

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That's a whole, it's a whole other thing.

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Is it a whole other thing though?

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Very related, but it's a,

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unpacking how that has led to a lot of this

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is something that much smarter people can do.

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And if we tried, it would take us all day.

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It's a strange funnel.

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It's a strange funnel to go from I like Fortnite

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to being like, oh, so the n-word isn't that bad.

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It's not that strange.

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No.

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And look at Mike Cernovich.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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Again, back to that ding dong.

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There we go.

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So now we get back to the show

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and we finally get to Alex coming in.

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And you know how Mark Dice was saying that CNN only had-

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That you can get free money from the government

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if you buy his book.

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And that CNN only had like 4,000 viewers on their-

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On their stream?

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That's not enough.

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So Alex gets into that a little bit here

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and I think he gives a little bit of a like,

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I understand that I don't really either

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and tries to explain it away.

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No sooner had they put strikes on my YouTube

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and Facebook accounts and blocked us on most of the accounts

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from live streaming,

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that's a very small part of our audience,

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but for CNN, it's a giant audience.

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They're very jealous of it.

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I'll get to that in a minute.

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Anderson Cooper's total failure with 4,000 viewers

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on his new Facebook show they paid $18 million for

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and that is force fed and push notifications

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to tens of millions of people.

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They shadow ban us and our videos

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have hundreds of thousands or millions of views.

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They force feed Anderson Cooper.

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Is he crying or laughing?

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And he had 4,000 viewers in the entire show.

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What is he doing?

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It's laughing.

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It's sort of a like,

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ha ha, I've won over my arch rival.

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It's a bit of a cry laugh.

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I don't think his heart's in it.

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His heart's not in that laugh.

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Oh, it's a very different version of fake laugh

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than a lot of the ones we've,

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but that's when he's like,

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I've got to really ham it up for a full sentence.

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I'm holding back the laughter

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so it sounds like I'm crying, that sort of shit.

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And you know, that's his way of saying that,

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hey, streaming is a small part of our audience.

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It's not, but it is.

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His audience is a small part of his audience.

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It is and it isn't.

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That's one of the things

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that we're going to keep coming back to

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in terms of this whole episode with his banning,

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his quote, unquote banning of his stuff,

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is that those people who watch his streams

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are a small part of his audience

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in terms of like, okay,

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so there's like 2,000 people streaming this live.

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That's not a negligible part of his audience.

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It's more than we have on our stream.

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Sure, but it's also people

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that aren't probably as engaged maybe

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or people who have already bought products.

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Maybe it's not the most important thing.

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Whereas like his videos will have like 15,000 views

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or something like that when he posts them

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with scandalous, salacious, bullshit clickbait titles.

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So like what they've taken away

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is relatively a small piece of his operation

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compared to what they have left intact.

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Did Hillary skull fuck Seth Rich to death?

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We'll find out at the end of this hour.

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Click.

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Click, hell yeah.

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I would click on that video.

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Yeah, so what they've done is basically

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just leave the larger piece intact

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and now he can sort of impugn the small piece

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that has been taken away.

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They didn't even realize it's a tiny piece of the operation

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who really gives a shit what's going on.

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But he is allowed to make fun of himself a little bit

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only because the bigger picture

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is making fun of Anderson Cooper.

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If his stream hadn't been taken away,

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he'd probably be presenting it as like,

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we get so many more viewers than that.

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Of course.

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He is only able to do that because it's now gone.

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So it's kind of fun.

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It's a simple con.

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Yeah.

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It's not hard.

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It's kind of fun, but at the same time,

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we've not gotten into anything that's super interesting yet.

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It's all just kind of like, eh, who cares?

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So in this next clip, Alex says he's going to sue CNN,

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which I don't think is true.

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But let's...

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Wait, wait, wait, does he think he has a chance?

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I think, I think...

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Does he think he could win that one?

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I think it's actually more of an embedded plug.

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And then at the end of it,

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he kind of gives away that he knows exactly

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how to benefit off things like

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what's happening to him right now.

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And CNN is beyond a dog dropping.

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It's beyond fake news.

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This is after he has done like maybe 30 seconds on like,

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hey, you cover a dog shit and fudge

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and try and feed it to somebody.

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Right, right, right.

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You put more fudge on it, who gives a shit?

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It's still dog shit.

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Sure.

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Down home stuff.

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Sure.

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Does that make sense?

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I sent them a letter today

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on notice for tortious interference.

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You know, I don't just file lawsuits to file them.

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I file them if I can win them a hundred percent.

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Not true.

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I'd like us all to go back to April of last year

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where Alex Jones, when he was up in court

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against Hamdi Ulukaya said,

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I will win this or I will die.

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And as we all know, he won handily.

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He lost and gave a public apology.

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Did he die though?

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Politically.

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Oh, okay.

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And they are on television saying,

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take me off the air and then lying about what I said

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and then calling publishers

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and getting publisher people fired because

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Publisher people?

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I'm working on a book with one of the top selling authors

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who's alive, Neil Strauss, The War for the Future.

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Secret history of the world and the war for the future.

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That isn't a book that sells 10 million.

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What doesn't?

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Everyone knows it's the super hit.

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Of course, after you try to ban it,

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then we'll of course publish it ourselves.

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There you go.

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We already knew you'd all do this.

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You just walked right into our trap as usual.

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But the point is, is that you're still very, very dangerous.

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Yeah.

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God damn it.

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Alex, why are you the weakest link?

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It's so-

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How is it that he's even the weakest link on his own scam?

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Right.

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I mean, it's not a scam, but it is like-

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You've all walked into our trap.

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It's not a trap.

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It's just, you know, it's that same sort of thing.

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It's short circuiting outrage.

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It's this, you can do it really easily.

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And that's why whenever people are in a

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ban Alex Jones kind of mood,

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I always am like, eh, you guys should probably consider

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what the actual outcome of that is.

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Because he probably has an end strategy to this.

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The only thing he doesn't have an end strategy for

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is you literally banning him.

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Right.

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Because if you do kick him off YouTube,

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you do kick him off Facebook,

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he's fucked.

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His radio engagement is not nearly what he claims it is.

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So if you kick him off legitimately,

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ban all the Infowars correspondence from Facebook,

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ban the main pages, kick it all off,

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take away streaming capability,

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like have someone on it to like be able to clearly tell,

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oh, this is a dummy account that's being put up

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in order to get around the ban,

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have someone there to cut off the tentacles

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as they come up, he'd be fucked.

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Yeah, that's the only thing you can do.

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Anything else just plays into his hands.

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Yeah.

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And you can't do that now.

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No.

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You can't do what I'm advocating for now

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because you've already backed yourself in a fucking corner.

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Stupid companies.

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Stupid.

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Well, I mean, it's not like companies

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have a great track record of not being stupid

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about this kind of shit.

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Holy shit, no.

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To the point where it seems like they are in on it.

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Yeah, it does.

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It kind of seems like that you,

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it almost seems like Alex emailed Facebook

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and was like, hey, I got a scam for both of us to rob.

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Let's do the two man game on this one.

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It seems like maybe Alex gives Facebook $10,000 a month

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or so in like promoting posts and stuff like that

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and he's like, I don't, you know that you banned me,

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that's gonna go away.

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Yeah.

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Or something like that.

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I don't know, there's probably,

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there's gotta be some sort of a calculus to it,

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but whatever it is, nobody's acting right.

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No.

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And I mean, neither are we necessarily.

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Eh, I don't think, I don't think we've.

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We don't have the answer.

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I don't think we've ever said that anybody's acting right,

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let alone us.

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Mm-mm, except Bill Ayers.

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Bill Ayers.

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Bill Ayers was acting right.

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Yeah, Bill Ayers was killing, killing it.

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Yeah, so here Alex Jones gets into the story

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that he believes got him banned from all this stuff.

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It's that video about a kid, the kid getting beat up.

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And then at the end of this,

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he talks about how people are trying to take his kids

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and we'll get into that in just a second.

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It was on local radio, it was on local TV.

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He's talking about the viral video of the kid getting beat up.

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Yeah.

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I guess KVUE did it.

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And I got cousins calling me in East Texas going,

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yeah, we heard on the news, you beat up a child?

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Was that one of your kids?

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They wouldn't show the video.

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And I said, no, that was Missouri.

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That was a different time I beat up my kids.

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It was a kid beating up adults

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and one guy pushed him down.

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It was on ABC News, I showed it.

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And then the news went,

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wait, we can say that's child endangerment,

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take the video down, just say child endangerment.

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Forbes said I beat a kid up

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and there's now filings at the Travis County Courthouse.

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People are down there trying to do TROs to take my kids

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and they're holding up the article.

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People aren't doing that.

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People aren't doing that.

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His ex-wife is doing that.

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Ah.

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It's not like strangers are like,

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because no one else has standing

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to file that sort of thing.

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Right.

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Alex is presenting this as some sort of a consequence

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of people lying about what he did with this video.

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But in reality, if you follow his ex-wife on Twitter,

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it's a continuation of exactly

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what she's been doing for quite a while.

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And Alex presents it as like,

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the media is saying blank

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and it's really what Kelly has been tweeting about.

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That sort of thing.

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On Thursday night, Kelly went down to the courthouse

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and was filing an emergency order.

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And I don't believe it was because of that video.

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I believe it was she'd had enough.

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That's my guess.

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It's not our business.

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No.

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No.

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So earlier, Alex was pitching the app.

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Yeah.

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And in this next clip, he pitches something else

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that I think is more indicative

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that he knows that he needs a backup plan.

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We are the most hated news source in the world by Globalist.

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It is so critical that you go to info.wars.com

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forward slash newsletter and sign up for the free newsletter

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so we can be in contact with you.

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And so the censors can't bully their way in

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and block us being able to engage

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in free open dialogue as a society.

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That is critical to this fight.

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So he's pushing the newsletter now.

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The newsletter?

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Yeah, he has an email newsletter,

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which I actually signed up for in a dummy account

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because I figured they were going to start sending

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a bunch of like, selling my address to stuff.

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Yeah.

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I wanted a pure account

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and they didn't have to do anything else with it.

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Yeah.

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And to my surprise, they didn't.

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It was all just Info Wars shit.

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Oh.

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Like, it was bizarre.

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I thought for sure, like, I'd be getting tons of spam,

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tons of unsolicited emails.

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No.

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Maybe they're just bad at that, too.

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So on that end, I tip my cap to them for not doing that.

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There's a lot of abusive practices.

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You could be engaging in it.

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I know.

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But.

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Or is that a tip of the cap or halfway a recommendation?

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Like, again, we're pitching ideas

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that Info Wars should be doing.

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Oh, I'm sure they could make some money off it.

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Like, you guys have a whole nother revenue stream

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that you're not even taking advantage of.

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And maybe they know that now.

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Yeah.

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And they're pitching the newsletter

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because they're about to start.

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Because they're about to.

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Okay.

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I mean, it could be.

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I don't know.

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It could be.

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I don't want to put that in their mouths

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because I don't know if that's the case.

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But I have not heard a ton of ads, you know,

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again, I haven't listened to the live stuff

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in like, maybe a month or so.

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Quite a while.

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It hasn't been as long as you think.

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But it is.

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I think a month is pretty much as long as I think.

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Okay.

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Well, that's for you.

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Well, yeah, yeah.

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So, but I wouldn't ever really hear lots of commercials

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for the newsletter or for the app or anything like that.

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I've never heard either of them.

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Or you've never played them for me in the past.

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So that seems suspicious in and of itself.

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If I've never heard an ad for the newsletter,

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which I don't think I ever have,

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that is after a year and a half of doing this show,

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bananas to me.

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They've done advertisements for literally everything.

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I heard commercials for stuff like that

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back in like 2009, 2010,

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because you have instances of like,

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at that point he's selling Infowars.tv,

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prisonplanet.tv subscriptions,

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so you can get the video and stuff like that

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if you join the site.

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Sure.

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Because he didn't have a robust presence

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on like YouTube and that shit.

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So there is that, that's an old piece of his hustle.

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But because he made so much money off supplements

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and all that stuff and you know, whatever,

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he never, it like, it fell by the wayside.

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Yeah.

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And now that we have a situation where he sees

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it's maybe possible that they're going

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to fucking cut the cord.

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Yeah.

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Maybe, it's unlikely, but we might need a backup plan.

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Yeah.

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Let's build this app,

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let's make sure more people get on the newsletter

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so we can email them and scare them.

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Yeah.

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We need to find new tentacles.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So.

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If we can't scare them this way,

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we gotta find a different way to scare them.

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Right, right.

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And that way also has to have an ad for supplements.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So up to this point, most of this episode

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has been sort of dealing with the ban and what have you.

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Sure.

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I think I've said my piece.

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The fake ban.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I think I've said my piece, I think you've said your piece.

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I don't think there's gonna be much more of it.

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But the rest of this episode is clearly indicative

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of what people should be talking about, about Alex Jones.

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And aren't.

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This is very important to me,

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because this is not different than ever.

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And on the fucking July 27th, 2018 episode,

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where he's responding to being banned,

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we will hear some incredibly monstrous shit.

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Ugh.

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My response to being banned is to be even more ban-worthy.

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So this first clip isn't really necessarily monstrous,

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but it's absolutely a piece of the conversation

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about Alex Jones that most people are missing.

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Here we go.

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So here is Tucker Carlson, who, by the way,

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the Democrats are in the news now calling

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for him to be deplatformed,

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and a bunch of other conservatives,

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like Steven Crowder and Stefan Molyneux,

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because they know what's happening.

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White supremacy is spreading.

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They know they're losing.

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And so they misrepresent, and Newsweek, CNN,

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they go, Tucker Carlson defends Alex Jones,

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bullying the Parkland students and saying no one died.

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And Tucker Carlson defends child endangerment.

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All hoaxes, all lies, just like they say,

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every hour on the hour, Trump hates Hispanics

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and says they're all rapists and criminals.

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So then everybody shows up at the Trump star

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that's been pickaxed, and you beat up the white people,

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because, well, they're obviously bad.

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I mean, Donald Trump means Hall Hitler, right?

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Yes, at this point, yes, hard yes.

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Towards the end is what this is all about.

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This is just spreading white fears.

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Someone, I guess, took a pickaxe to the Hollywood star

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at, say, Grauman's Chinese Theater.

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Fantastic.

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Who gives a shit?

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A delight.

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Not as good as whomever let loose Betsy DeVos's yacht.

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That's my favorite thing that's happened.

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That's such a good thing to do.

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I'm disappointed that it wasn't burnt to the ground

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at the same time that carries a-

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That burned to the water.

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Fair enough.

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That carries a far larger sentence if you're caught,

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so I respect it.

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Sure.

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Alex talks a lot about this,

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and I don't know if we're gonna hear

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all that much more about it,

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but he talks a ton about this incident at the Hollywood star

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and most of it is just like,

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hey, look, I don't hate Hispanics,

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but here they are, they wanna beat up white people.

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And that's all, that's all it is.

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I mean, who doesn't, though?

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But that's all it is.

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He's like, the liberals are training Hispanics

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to beat up whites.

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They're like, okay, fine, whatever.

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He's like, oh.

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Like with what, Krav Maga?

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Like, how are we training them?

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That's the Israelis.

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Is this a MMA situation that I didn't know about?

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He's like, it took 15 of these thugs

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and they couldn't even beat up these two white dudes.

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And I'm like, I just don't, I am like, I don't, I don't.

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It's so standard for him, but at the same time,

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like, I don't get it.

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It's more fun in this context

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because he's clearly, he's feeling,

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he's acting like he's up against the wall

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in a way that is far closer to him

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actually being up against a wall

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than he normally is acting like he's up against a wall.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Sort of.

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Like, he's at the point where he does feel like

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I could be up against a wall for real this time.

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Right.

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But I'm still gonna play it,

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I'm still gonna play my game,

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but now there's a little bit more elevated stakes.

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If things go slightly different in the near future,

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I might be close to a wall.

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Yeah, exactly, and I'm not used to being there at all.

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I mean, not since Hamdi Ulukaya

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have I been up against a wall.

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But even then, he knew that there was a window

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he could crawl out of, which was apologizing.

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Right, which should not have been acceptable, no, period.

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No, certainly not.

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I mean, Alex, if nothing else,

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you start to realize he's a pretty good gambler.

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Like, in terms of knowing when someone's bluffing,

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because almost all the time these people are bluffing

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when they come up against him.

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So, at this point, he's dealt with so many people

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who are just weak shit, and he can just bluff past them.

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Like, you know, no one ever calls his shit.

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You know what was never adequately explained

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to me about that?

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How is an apology a legitimate legal agreement there?

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Well, because he probably also paid some money.

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You think so?

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He probably paid a settlement of some sort.

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Did he pay some money?

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Oh, okay.

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I don't know, all that stuff has never been.

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He probably paid their legal fees, at least.

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Probably.

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I assume, yeah.

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Nothing has ever been released about that.

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I just don't think that you should be able to sue somebody

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for an I'm sorry.

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But if you're a millionaire, you know, billionaire maybe,

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even like Hamdi Ulukaya, and you just want someone

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to be, like, brought low in public.

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Yeah.

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That kind of makes sense,

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because all he was doing was lying about him.

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Right.

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He didn't actually do anything super negative

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to the guy's business or anything like that.

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Yeah.

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So, monetary punishment's kind of unnecessary.

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Eh, but it would be more fun.

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Right, I think honor dictates that if the guy

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actually apologizes, that's all you're really asking for.

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I don't like gentleman's bets.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't like duels where both guys miss

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and then they agree to leave as friends.

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Bullshit.

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I don't know what to tell you.

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So, there's a lot of shadow-ban talk.

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I don't know if we need to get into that fully,

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or maybe we will a little bit later,

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because another guest shows up,

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and we can talk about it at that point,

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because I actually do have a lot of thoughts about that.

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But here, Alex complains more about CNN

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and explains why they're out to get him.

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Fair enough.

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I wasn't in Missouri a month ago.

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I didn't beat up some kid that was punching me in the face.

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The guy didn't even look like me.

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But right now, we can't stream on YouTube

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or my main Facebook account,

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because YouTube was lobbied by CNN.

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CNN says they lobbied for this.

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And again, why would CNN be spending all its time

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and all its energy doing this?

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Because they're globalists.

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They work for multinational corporations.

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They work for the communist Chinese.

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They are a multinational. They don't work for it.

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That is what they are.

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He isn't going all the way

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because his audience isn't ready yet.

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No, no.

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Americans are the enemy of CNN, just as Trump has said.

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Good. Good.

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Good rhetoric.

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I love it.

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That's not dangerous at all.

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It's just like, people don't understand

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that Americans are against the free press,

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and it's great that they have a president

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who tells them not to trust anyone other than him.

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Right.

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That makes perfect sense.

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Totally.

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That's all I'm saying.

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All I'm saying is that if, say, you were a Trump supporter,

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and you were talking to Trump,

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and you were like, you know, my whole family

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and all of the multicultural people I've ever met are like,

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you are evil for supporting Trump.

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And Trump was like, they don't respect you,

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and you should murder all of them.

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That sounds like Alex in 2009.

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Oh, does that sound like that?

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That's weird. That's weird.

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It seems almost like there's a parallel.

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It seems almost like there was a groundwork laid.

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Cruel, cruel con men.

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Yeah.

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Seem to like attracts like.

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Although, I was reading one of those articles

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about Alex's ban, and they made a really good point

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that since Donald Trump-

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He's a loser little titty baby.

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No, but since Trump got elected,

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he's really not done too much to be like,

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Alex Jones is great.

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No, of course not.

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He's really distanced.

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Of course he has.

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Not intellectually or not in terms of the arguments

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he makes, there's still clear overlap and parallel,

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but like he went on in 2015 and said,

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your reputation's amazing and all that stuff.

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And since he got elected, I don't think it gives a shit.

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Alex is one of the contractors that Trump has used

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in building a casino.

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More or less.

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He's not paying him.

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Yeah, more or less.

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So on a recent episode that we did,

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we mentioned or I mentioned that I found

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a bunch of copyrights and trademarks that Alex owns.

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And it turns out that super male vitality,

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super female vitality, all have lapsed.

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He hasn't renewed those copyrights.

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But I found some new ones.

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And one of them was Firepower Radio, I believe.

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Super dick vitality and super vagina-tality.

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Right, right, right.

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He's deciding to cut through the bullshit.

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Gives you a boner, that'll be the new name.

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I don't remember if it was Firepower Radio.

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It's something like that.

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And then the other one was Honor Roll.

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And someone, I can't remember who, and I apologize,

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someone in the Facebook group posted that

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that's obviously going to be the name of Rex's show.

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And it's going to be Young Info Warriors.

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No!

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And I got terrified.

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No!

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I got tear-

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No!

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I got terrified.

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No!

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Because that is a good name for that.

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Yeah, that's a great name for that.

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If Alex is copywriting or trademarking-

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It's second only to Saved by the Bell.

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Mm-hmm.

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That would also be a great name for Rex's show.

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If, the Dean's List.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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Too close to Howard Dean, not gonna work.

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Yeah!

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So-

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Sorry.

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But when that suggestion was made, I was like,

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holy shit, that is a really good possibility

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for what this is gonna end up being.

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For sure.

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All you know is that it's a trademark he's filed.

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However, we know, my first reaction to that is

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obviously Alex will not do that

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because that's a great idea.

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And once again, why are we doing Punch-Up for Infowars?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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But in this episode, we do get what I would describe

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as one of the creepiest commercials I've ever heard

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for Honor Roll, which is a new supplement.

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And then you've got Honor Roll.

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This is why it took us a couple of years

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because I could have instantly tried to label something.

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I said, no, I want all the oils that are known

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for the brain to be the very, very best.

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And I want it at a price way below anybody else.

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And I want it stronger.

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I don't want you fillers.

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We have done it.

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This baby right here is the nuclear option

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for your children, you name it.

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I mean, you want to give your children the boost they need.

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I mean, this is it.

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Ladies and gentlemen, just look at it.

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Look at that.

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Everybody else is just like yellow or clear.

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And that's because it's been denatured.

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It's been watered down.

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We didn't do that.

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You think I would

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tell you something that is the very best I can get.

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I'd rather go to hell than do that.

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That's for me.

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You understand the selfishness of this?

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I will only give you the maximum best info,

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the maximum truth, the maximum product

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because I want that good will.

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What I do to you, I do to myself.

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Don't you get the big secret?

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So real quick.

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Wait, that was an ad.

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Yep.

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That was an advertisement.

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Oh yeah.

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That sounded way less like an advertisement

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and more like a fucking breakdown in reality.

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You heard the music playing behind it.

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This is a prepackaged thing.

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This isn't him on the show doing an ad pivot.

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Give your kids this oil.

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All of these oils.

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You see those clear oils that look like water?

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Disgusting.

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You see those yellow oils that look like urine?

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That's even grosser.

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We're promising you full green and brown oils.

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Orange?

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Orange.

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So I just love that this is a nuclear option for your kids.

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Honor roll.

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Honor roll.

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Don't you want your kids to feel like I do right now?

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Don't you want your kids to feel like they're

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getting the best neighbors.

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Oh, it's 11.

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Sorry.

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It's fish oil.

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Yeah, of course it is.

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That's all it is.

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Which has, again, recently been debunked as bullshit

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for the millionth time.

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But it's not terrible for you or anything like that.

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It is helpful, but it's a little overblown in the same way

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as like a ginkgo biloba or something like that,

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or any of Alex's products.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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Marty was texting me earlier today

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because he was in an Uber.

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Or not an Uber, he was in a Lyft.

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I don't want to put it out there that he takes Uber.

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Yeah, fuck Uber.

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He was in a Lyft, and the driver was an info warrior.

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No shit.

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And he was telling me that he had iodine in the car.

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No, no.

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I was so like, oh, god, this is awful.

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Of course.

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So rare to have an info warrior in the wild, especially

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a captive audience, where they have to like, they're it.

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I will say one thing.

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I don't think ill of people who subscribe to Alex's beliefs

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necessarily.

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I think that there's probably a lot of well-meaning, misled

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people in that group.

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But I will say the ones that I've ever met,

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not made for the service industry.

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I will say that.

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I feel like that's tough.

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And then I also feel like it's probably tough

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if you're someone who works for Lyft.

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You're kind of in the gig economy,

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and it's weird for you to then be propping up

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a propagandist who is really super into keeping you

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in the gig economy.

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Yeah.

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Where you're struggling and driving people around

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for pennies.

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That's the trick.

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That's the trick that the conservative movement

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has pulled up.

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Billionaires.

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That's the trick that billionaires

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have pulled up for so long.

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It's just like, your interests are terrible.

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You need to have my interests.

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And my interests are me making a lot more money

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and you making none.

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And somehow they believe that shit.

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Well, you suck it up.

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And if you go along with it, you're

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allowed to have this fantasy where you believe that you'll

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be one of them.

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Yeah, it's the prosperity gospel scam.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was texting about this earlier,

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and that's kind of something I'm worried about

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with my new favorite show that I've got you on, apparently.

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Everything with Phil Rosenthal.

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I'm out.

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I watched five episodes and I'm out.

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So if you guys have not watched this,

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I recommend giving it a whirl because it is delightful

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and charming in many ways.

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There is a PBS show called I'll Have What Phil's Having that

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got branched out into a Netflix series called Somebody Feed

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Phil, where Phil Rosenthal, who's

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the guy who created Everybody Loves Raymond,

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is a billionaire.

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For sure.

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He goes around the world and he's

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trying to extol the virtues of traveling

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and how food brings people together.

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And he does all these amazing, beautiful things

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where he goes and has these top chefs around the world

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make him meals, but they never in any way

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address the fact that he's a billionaire.

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Yeah, I know, right?

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Even in the I'll Have What Phil's Having,

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the entire premise of the show, he

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says it at the beginning of every episode,

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you can have what I'm having.

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Yeah, no, you can't.

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That sort of thing.

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No, you fucking can't.

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No, you cannot.

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You can travel if you can afford it.

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You can't travel like that.

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No.

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You can meet people, absolutely.

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If you can afford it.

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Well, no, but so like a parallel for me.

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I went to Greece with my family in 2007.

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And for a week of it, we were staying in ancient Corinth.

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And it was kind of a bummer.

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My dad was working on archaeological dig there.

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They found something that might have been Paul's church.

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And so we were staying in this little shack for three weeks.

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And the town was kind of a sleepy bummer.

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There was one street where they had shops

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like they had identical stuff at them,

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a couple of decent restaurants.

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And it was a disaster.

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But luckily, my then girlfriend, her family

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was going to somewhere in Italy.

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It was close enough that she came to Greece for a week.

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That is a coincidence.

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Yeah, it was really awesome timing.

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And so she and I got a hotel in modern Corinth,

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which is the sort of, you can't call it a metropolis,

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but more of a city nearby.

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You could call it an acropolis.

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No, you can't even call it that.

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There might be an agora.

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So we went to modern Corinth.

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And we stayed there for a week away from ancient Corinth.

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Man, that was nice to get out of there a little bit.

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But we met a guy who worked at a coffee shop

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there who loved Americans.

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And we made friends with him.

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And we would go back to the coffee shop and talk to him.

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And it turned bad when he was like,

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I want your phone numbers.

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Ah, ooh, a little bit of a dating misstep.

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No, it was fine.

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But he wanted to stay in touch and all that.

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I was like, well, here's my email address.

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We can stay in touch that way.

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I don't know if you're going to be able to call me from Greece.

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Let's do pen pals.

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Let's not do text pals.

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And then he turned cold.

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Oh, no.

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Didn't want to email me.

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I don't know what the deal was.

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There was some sort of a disconnect.

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But you can do that.

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Oh, email killed his father, actually.

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Oh, that could be.

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Yeah, it was an email that did it.

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Didn't think about that.

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Got a virus from an email.

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He got a paper cut.

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So my point is, go buck wild.

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You can have those experiences all day long

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if you're poor and you're traveling.

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You can have these things that don't quite level up, maybe.

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Or you can fuck around and find some cool underworld bar

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or something like that and eat some weirdos and do heroin.

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You can do all those things if you're traveling.

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But what you can't do is what Phil Rosenthal's doing.

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You can't do that.

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No, I watched one episode where he took a bite of something

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and his eyes lit up in such a way

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that I was caught up in the moment.

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I was like, oh, my god.

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This man truly has experienced beauty.

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And he's conveying it in a facial expression.

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And my mirror neurons are firing.

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And I feel beauty, too.

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And then when the episode ended, I was like,

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you're a fucking millionaire.

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Well, fuck you.

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Of course you're happy.

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It's so easy to be happy when you're

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jet-setting around the world on somebody else's dime

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while you're also still a millionaire.

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That's the problem with the show.

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But I don't think that's the problem with Phil.

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I really think that even if he wasn't all that rich,

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he'd still be just as happy.

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I think that's just his demeanor.

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I don't know.

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There's no way to prove a counterfactual.

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But I think the thing that draws me to the show

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is that beautiful love of life that he embodies.

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And there's an innocence to it.

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And it's great.

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But at the same time, you can't take class out of it.

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And it gets really grating when people present it

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in the same way the capitalist fantasy of grind at this job

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where you're not making enough to live.

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And eventually, you pay your cards right, all this stuff.

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Maybe you'll be one of those people who capitalizes

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off capitalism.

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In the same way, this show presents a scenario

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where it's like, you can do all this stuff.

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And you fucking can't.

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There's just a delusion embedded.

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I don't know why I needed to go off on that jam.

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I just don't want to.

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We're all off.

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We're on jags all day today.

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Well, we're recording much later than normal.

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Sour beer is acting weird.

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But it is growing on me a little bit.

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It kind of is.

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The first sip was rough.

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It's kind of, I still don't love it.

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But it's growing on me.

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It's sour.

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And it takes a little while.

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It's like one of those sour candies.

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Yeah.

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One of those warheads.

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It reminds me of a warhead.

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So it's kind of growing on you.

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Yeah, it is.

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Something that's not going to grow on you.

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Nice transition.

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Thanks.

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Is Alex's next guest.

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I guarantee you've not heard of this guy.

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We are joined by Pastor Logan Robertson.

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Nope, I have not.

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Agreed.

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He was born and raised in New Zealand.

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He is grateful that he was raised in a loving Christian

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home and was saved as a young child.

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He's happily married for almost 12 years.

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And the Lord blessed him with five children.

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But now it's in the news that he's

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been deported from his own country.

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Sent into the Phantom Zone.

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Deported New Zealand Pastor Logan Robertson.

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Can New Zealand do that?

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Now shows no remorse for harassing sissy Muslims.

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That's the media spin.

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Oh, I got something Muslims killing us.

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So this guy, he's from New Zealand.

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He lived in Australia.

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Started harassing a bunch of Muslims and agitating and shit.

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And then Australia said, go back to New Zealand, you dick.

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Yeah.

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And I'm not, I'm not.

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Man, I like their constitution slightly better than ours

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because they do reserve the right to deport people

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for being a dick.

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Well, I'm not here to defend another country's decision

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about their deportation laws.

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I know every country has sort of different standards

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and that sort of thing.

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That's not my business.

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I will say that Alex ends up playing

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the video of Logan Robertson talking

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to people outside a mosque.

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Yeah.

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And I don't think it, I certainly don't think

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he comports himself well.

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No.

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He does call, I mean, not in the video that he plays,

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but he does very clearly call in a due to sissy,

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which I don't think is like.

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That's not that, there's worse.

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That's a playground kind of insult.

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Yeah.

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I don't, I don't think that's enough to get you deported.

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But.

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It's better than an American using like sand n-word,

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which is something that happens all the time.

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And that Sasha Baron Cohen special.

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Oh, did it?

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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Drops that.

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Great.

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So one of the things that we have to wrestle with,

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and this is something we talk about in terms of the United

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Kingdom quite a bit because of Tommy Robinson's bullshit,

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is that Australians don't have the same laws

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that we do because they're a different country.

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From an article.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha.

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Just to remind all the info warriors out there,

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there are other countries.

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Yeah, so from an article in SBS, quote,

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do Australians already have freedom,

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do they have freedom of speech?

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And if so, what does that really mean to our day

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to day lives legally?

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Despite all the debate in the past two years about free

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speech, it's not a right that's protected

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under our Constitution.

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In fact, the only social freedom that's guaranteed is religion.

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Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights,

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which is where free speech usually gets defined

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and protected in most Western democracies.

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It's neither incorporated in any federal legislation.

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Free speech has never been about saying what you want

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and being protected from the consequences of what you say.

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In fact, Australia does have laws regarding free speech,

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but they're all concerned with limitations and protections.

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So that is the position of Australia

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in terms of their government and free speech, which

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I think is fairly sensible.

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There are also protections that have come into place

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through court cases about political speech

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being protected and that sort of thing.

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So there are some things, but they're not

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like the same way that we have it

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embedded in our First Amendment.

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It's such an obsession that we have that we

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refuse to legislate it at all.

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There's a way to go that is like you don't have to be Australia,

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you don't have to be, but you also don't have to be Turkey.

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You shouldn't be, I don't know.

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My feeling on free speech ultimately

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comes down to like swear jar levels of like,

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if you're a dick often enough, I reserve the right

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to kick you out.

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Like that to me, like if you're an abuser of free speech,

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then get the fuck out of here.

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Get gone.

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But if you're just free speech, man, that's fine.

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It's hard to find the line.

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I don't know.

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Six n-words and you're out.

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That's my rule.

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Yikes.

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So Alex is saying that people are

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saying that he was mean to sissy Muslims

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and that's the media spin.

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Here's a quote from him on Radio Live.

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Quote, it proves that they are sissies,

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the Muslims, because instead of having an interview with us,

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they had to ring the media.

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They had to call police just because they

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don't want their religion exposed for what it is.

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So he's going around with the camera

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and trying to be like, hey, Mohammed had sex with a minor,

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all that stuff.

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That's basically.

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I mean, well, yeah, but so did all the old timey guys you

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like.

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Pretty much everyone in the Old Testament.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know, man.

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Yeah, you hate Mohammed, but you're like, Paul probably

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didn't fuck a minor.

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And it's like, well, he got married to a 12-year-old.

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So fucking suck a dick.

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I think his behavior is shit, but at the same time,

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I don't have any interest in telling Australia what to do.

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So whatever.

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You guys play by your rules.

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I don't fully understand your government or your justice

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system.

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Or your football Australian rules.

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I don't even know what's going on.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah.

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So what I do understand is this.

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Quote, Logan Peterson had the option

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to appeal his deportation, but chose not to.

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You know why?

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Because he knows that this is the best thing that

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could ever happen to him.

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Yeah.

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He doesn't want to fucking try and be like, no,

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I stand for my rights.

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I'm going to stay here.

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He opted to waive the ability to appeal it,

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because he wants to be deported.

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He wants to have the victim status

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that Alex gets from these slap on the wrist punishments

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from social media sites.

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It's the same thing.

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All of these fucking conservative, weirdo, bigot,

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asshole propagandists beg to be punished in some way,

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because that validates the victim status that they've

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been faking the whole time.

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Yeah.

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So that's the same boat that this dick hole is in.

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Great, guys.

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We created a great system, everybody.

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So now.

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Let's wrap it up and go home.

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So now Alex is interviewing this guy, Logan Peterson.

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One of the things that's really fun, and I think that this,

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the reason I kept this clip in is, I mean,

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they say some disgraceful things about Islam,

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but that's not new.

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Do we get to hear his accent, though?

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A little bit, but we also get to hear something

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that, if you're an ego-eared listener,

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you'll know that Alex, when it gets to about the second hour,

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usually has an interview, and while the other person

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is talking, he's eating lunch.

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You can kind of tell here at the beginning of the clip.

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He's taking a bite of the sandwich.

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And kind of wants, like, you roll with this.

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Roll with this.

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I'm chewing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Describe what it's like, though, to watch this invasion

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and just other observations.

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Yeah, well.

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He's got a little something in his cheek.

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In New Zealand, it's not as bad, but Australia,

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you know, they let Muslims in, you know, just freely.

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What?

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Almost as if they were people.

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I believe there's 600,000 Muslims in.

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Certainly don't let them in by boat.

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That's against the rules in Australia.

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In Australia now.

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And there's about 20, 24 million people.

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And but it's increasing, you know, day by day.

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They're bringing in all the Muslim refugees.

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And parts of Sydney is pretty much Sharia law.

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I don't believe you.

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But also, yeah.

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Sydney has Sharia law.

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I don't believe it.

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You know that famous place, Sydney?

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Covered in Sharia law.

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So much Sharia law.

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The opera house has to wear a polka.

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Oh, that Sharia law is covering that opera house left

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and right.

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Nuts.

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That opera house looks like tits.

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Can't be allowed out there.

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No way.

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No way.

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Looks like weird metal tits.

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So yeah, I've heard repeatedly from folks that Australia.

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And this is something that came up in that Malcolm the Turnbull

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prime minister conversation that he had with Trump

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when Trump first got here.

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Australia just has a blanket rule

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where they don't accept people by boat.

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So if you come and you show up by boat,

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no matter what your status is, they take you and put you back.

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They're like, you have to get out.

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And it's just a law that they've had

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that we don't accept people coming here by boat.

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How long have they had that law?

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I think it's been a part of a while.

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But that's clearly a specific.

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OK.

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It's a way to never have the conversation.

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If you can't fly there, that suggests

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you can't afford to fly there, which

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means that they're keeping out people

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who can't afford to fly there, which

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is a very specific reason to have a no boats.

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What, it's fine if you take a train to Australia?

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Fuck off.

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No, shit.

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That's a legitimately targeting law.

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Yeah, to some extent.

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But it is one of their laws.

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I can't argue with it.

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It's their business.

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If you live in Australia and you're one of our listeners

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and you don't like it, I'll second that.

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But that's your business.

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Chances are you hate Malcolm Turnbull.

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If you live in Australia and you listen to us,

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you are not a fan of your government right now.

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It's possible.

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I don't know.

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So anyway, Alex gets to a hot question, hot question

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here that he wants to ask.

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We're about to go to break.

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We're going to play some of these clips when we come back.

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Pretty powerful stuff.

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But let me ask you this.

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Am I wrong to say from what I read

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and what I hear that Australia and New Zealand

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are starting to wake up, though?

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Yeah, I believe there's a lot of people that are waking up

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to this and hearing the truth about that it

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is a wicked false religion.

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At the moment, they might be a little peaceful

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in our countries.

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But when they get their numbers up,

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you can see like in England, they will start rioting.

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They will start causing a lot of problems.

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And they're used by the leftists.

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They're brought in to do that.

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Sure.

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That's what the leftists do.

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So I mean, this dude, Pastor Robertson,

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is saying some fucked up stuff there.

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And Alex, his response is, you bet.

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Does he have a church?

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We'll get to that in a second.

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Ah, OK.

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I was going to say, you keep calling him Pastor Robinson,

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and then he got deported.

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Robertson.

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I keep missing that part.

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Robertson.

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But yeah.

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And then he gets deported.

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So it's like, does he go back to a different church?

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I think he might have like a small church and then

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an online thing.

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I'm not entirely sure, because the-

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He's got a congregation and a scam.

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We'll get to an accusation about him here in a second

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that I think is important.

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But first, I just think that the rhetoric that they're putting

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out is that, yes, Muslims are fine now,

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but once there's more of them, look out.

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That's what's going to happen.

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Which is so much what Alex said earlier.

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This is the same, like this is a really cancerous piece

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of rhetoric, that all it does is encourage whiteness.

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That's all it is.

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The only thing that's safe is more white people being around.

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You can't trust people who are different.

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You got it.

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Because they will always team up together and kill you.

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Which is one of the big reasons that I am furious at people

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for being like, well, climate change

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is going to be a problem in 2050 or 2070 or whatever.

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This is a part of climate change.

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This is exactly it.

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As every refugee, the more refugees we have,

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the more destabilized other countries

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are because of assholes like this shit.

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That's why we wind up having this shit.

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Of course you should accept refugees.

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Of course you should.

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They have fought and clawed and fucking everything

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they could do to get away from a situation

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where they will literally die.

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And you're like, oh, well, you can't let them in because they

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might change things.

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No, no, no.

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You're a pile of shit.

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Because what you don't understand

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is they all just want to kill you.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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I didn't know that they were running away from the people

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that you're actually afraid of because those people are

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trying to kill them.

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It might also be sort of like a latent colonialist feeling

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within people like Alex.

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Which is ironic for Australia to have.

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He's New Zealand.

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Well, I was talking about the boat thing.

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Oh, sure.

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But there is sort of like a feeling of like,

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that's what we would do.

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You know, there is.

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Right, right, right.

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No, you're absolutely right.

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There's a sense of like, if we could get away with doing that,

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we would kill all of them.

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So why aren't we afraid of the fact

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that if there's more of them, they're going to kill us?

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Again, white people might be aliens.

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It's always a battle between people who look different.

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Always.

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Society is always that, according to them.

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And like, why are you giving up the presumed advantage?

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It's fucking stupid.

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It's very dangerous.

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I mean, crazily enough, imagine if Africa

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had been the same way when white people showed up.

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If they had gone fucking bug fuck and been like,

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we got to get these people out of here,

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maybe we have a whole different world.

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It seems like it's only white people.

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Bob Chapman would be poorer.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It seems like white people are the only people

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who have the first thought of like, well, obviously, they'd

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do what we would do, which is kill everybody

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that's different from us, as opposed to what they've always

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done, which is accept us in open arms, which

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is why we're able to kill everybody that we want to.

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Trojan horse that shit.

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And that's probably where this mentality comes from,

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that they're expressing it.

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That's a great point.

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That's a great point.

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And hey, guys, that right there is

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as bad as any of those videos that got taken down

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from Alex's channel.

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That right there, this guest being allowed to,

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and Alex agreeing with him, when he says,

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more Muslims are going to show up,

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and then they're going to start rioting, oh,

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and then Alex comes in, the Democrats

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want them to do that.

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That's as bigoted, that's as bad as anything

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in those videos that got him taken down.

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So hey, there's another strike, YouTube.

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What are you going to do?

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He's going to keep doing this and keep

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posting those fucking videos.

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Grow up.

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So anyway, you know, there's a chance that

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From Knowledge Fight to YouTube, grow up, guys.

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There's a chance, though, that the media's

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got all of it wrong about this guy, this Pastor Robertson.

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We're talking to Pastor Logan Robertson,

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who has been so demonized, so misrepresented,

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with what he's done, pillarbathings.org.

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So he's been misrepresented.

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Nah.

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I know zero about the guy, and I already disagree.

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I'd like to read to you from a 2017 article

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in the New Zealand Herald.

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Quote, my view on homo marriage is that the Bible

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No, no, no.

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Is that the Bible?

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No, no.

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This is going to be a roller coaster for you.

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This is going to be real rough.

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It's going to get way worse.

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My view on homo marriage is that the Bible never

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mentions it, so I'm not against them getting married,

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Robertson says.

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All right, now it's crazy.

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Quote, as long as a bullet goes through their head

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the moment they kiss.

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What?

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Wait, what?

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What?

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Wait, what?

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I told you it's a roller coaster.

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Wait, what?

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Neighbors.

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All right.

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He's fine with them getting married.

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Quote, as long as a bullet goes through their head

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the moment they kiss, because that's what it talks about.

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Not homo marriage, but homo death.

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You know what?

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I disagree with him.

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Yeah, I'd hope.

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It's more, if you want to go full on Deuteronomy,

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or no, it would be Leviticus, I think.

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It would more be like, not the moment they kiss,

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but the moment they lay down in a bed together.

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Like if they're fucking standing up,

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the Bible doesn't say shit about that.

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It doesn't really talk about foreplay.

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Uh-uh.

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No, no, no, no.

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You can blow a dude all you want.

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The Bible has nothing to do with that.

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I'm not sure about that.

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Some of the stuff in the Gnostic scriptures and Dead Sea Scrolls

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are pretty clear about where you can put cum.

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You know what's, Onan, fair enough.

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Yeah.

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But you know what's even crazier?

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Like, strangely enough, the Muslims?

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Kind of fine with blowing dudes.

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This, I,

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It's kind of a thing that's cool.

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Whatever.

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I'm going to talk more about how awful Logan Robertson is here.

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Uh-huh.

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So there's this writer named Jim Marjoram.

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And he'd written a book about his struggle with his sexuality

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as a member of a fundamentalist church.

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He'd written this book as a way to try and help people

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who were in a similar position to him.

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It gave coping strategies.

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Right.

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Also sort of resources.

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And he ran a support group called Silent Gays.

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Right.

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Because before that, he was in a Pray the Gay Away group.

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And he'd been married for a number of years.

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And his wife passed away.

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And after that point, he realized,

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what am I struggling against?

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This is not going away.

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This is who I am.

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And so he wrote this book to try and help people

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who were in a similar position to him.

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So he's a man who's doing good, which I assume

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must be punished by these fucking assholes going wild.

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So he reached out to a bunch of churches

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as a means of promoting his book, which, like I said,

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doubles as a strategy guide for men in the same situation

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he's in.

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Unfortunately, Robertson's church

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was one that received a message from him.

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Oh, no.

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From a 2014 article in the New Zealand Herald,

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Robertson's response email said, quote,

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we are not interested in your filthy lifestyle or book.

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The Bible says you're vile, strange, queer, reprobate,

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filth, sodomite, natural brute beasts,

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made to be taken and destroyed.

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I pray that you commit suicide, you filthy child molesting fag.

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That was published?

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No, that was an email that got published.

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Oh, OK.

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And then he was asked about it.

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And his response was, yeah, I said that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, me.

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I didn't tell him to commit suicide.

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I just said I was going to pray that he did.

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That was his response.

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This guy is a fucking asshole.

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That's a?

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This guy's a monster.

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That's an interesting distinction to make.

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This guy is a fucking huge monster.

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He is a horrible, horrible person.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So the Baptist Church is a new.

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It's a good thing that's isolated

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in the evangelical community.

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And we never see that anywhere else.

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Oh, New Zealand, good thing it's over there.

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And we don't have to deal with it.

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So this is all about, again, still about Alex saying

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that he's being misrepresented.

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He's misrepresented.

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So the Baptist Churches of New Zealand

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has said the following about Logan Robertson.

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Quote, fuck that guy.

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The Baptist Churches of New Zealand are in no way

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connected with or affirm in any way

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the comments made by a self-proclaimed pastor Logan

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Robertson of Westside Baptist Bible Baptist Church.

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The New Zealand Baptist Union of Churches

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are appalled by the comments of hatred and evil made

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by Pastor Robertson.

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Unfortunately, the Baptist name is not a franchise.

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The name can be taken by any group or person that wishes

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to use this longstanding name to identify themselves.

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In the case of Pastor Logan Robertson,

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he is not an ordained or registered pastor

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of any denomination.

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He does not have a congregation or church building or meeting

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space.

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He's established a church website,

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thereby claiming to be a church.

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Therefore, his desire to call himself a pastor

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is entirely fraudulent.

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Now, that was in 2014.

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There's a chance that he had established a space after that.

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But also, I don't believe he's been ordained,

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except if it's like, I'm ordained.

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Like, I'm ordained by the New Life Church.

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I mean, at the same time, that's all it really is.

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Like, it's just, at the end of the day, it's just like,

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if you go to seminary, it's just like, read the Bible,

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and then you're like, oh, yeah.

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You still got to pass some tests.

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You still got to pass some tests, but come on.

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They're Bible tests.

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It's like passing a test.

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It's like going to a real-life Hogwarts and them being like,

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you're a wizard now.

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You know the difference I would say is very real?

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Level of commitment.

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That's fair.

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If you go through the work that you

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have to take years of classes in seminary in order to get,

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it means you at least mean it.

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Yeah.

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Whereas if you're just like, nah, fuck it.

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I'm a pastor now.

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Hey, fags suck.

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That's enough to make you a pastor in America, though.

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Or in New Zealand.

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Or in New Zealand.

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But that to me means you don't mean it.

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You're just, you're looking for a space.

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You've got nothing.

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Right.

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That's good stuff.

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It's good stuff.

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So fellow hate preacher and past Info Wars guest

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who has since then come out and said that Info Wars is

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full of shit, Steve Anderson, who we went over in an episode.

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That's right.

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He welcomed Logan Robertson to a revival-type conference

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in 2016.

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He wrote the following about it in his blog.

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Quote, we had a full house again for the Saturday preaching

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service, and Pastor Logan Robertson

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preached a short sermon on, quote,

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how to be filled with the spirit.

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He preached hard against drinking

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and didn't hold anything back when he called out YouTubers

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Afshin and Marshall for their bizarre teaching on alcohol.

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Not only that, but hearing Pastor Robertson

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say fag and queer in his New Zealand accent was classic.

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Classic.

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What a load of assholes.

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So I don't think that anybody is misrepresenting Mr. Robertson.

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I think he's a fucking monster.

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And hey, if I were a country, I wouldn't want him in me.

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I'd be fine with that.

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I would like that spirit out of me.

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Yeah, I would like to not be filled with that spirit.

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So now Alex plays this clip of him harassing Muslims.

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And I'd like to just play this and let you respond.

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Any time you say that, I know I'm not going to feel good.

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Well, I don't know if you'll feel terrible.

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I mean, I just think that there's not much going on here.

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You know what I mean?

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OK.

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All right.

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I think that there's adults responding

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to a child with a camera is kind of what's going on.

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All right.

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Let's go ahead and finish up with this clip.

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We use a 15-year-old Muslim.

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We didn't accuse him.

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How did we?

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How long did we accuse him?

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Oh, is that accused of possession?

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Because you come to this place of worship uninvited.

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Nobody invited you to come here.

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You didn't make an appointment to go to Karabi mosque.

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You could turn up at four o'clock.

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And you confront a 15-year-old kid and a 65-year-old man.

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You put him on the stand.

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Show me.

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We don't film him.

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That's what you're doing.

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You're saying the video is not the video.

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Did you call him a terrorist?

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I did not call him a terrorist.

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Wait.

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Show me the video.

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Show me the video.

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Make a line.

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I did not call him a terrorist.

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You did, man.

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I did not.

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I'm certain he did.

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Yeah, no.

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So you're lying now.

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Show us the video of me calling him a terrorist.

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Call me.

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What was your purpose of going to the mosque?

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Just answer this question.

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We were setting up interviews for our new documentary.

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What documentary?

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Do you have permission to go to a private property

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like you need permission to come here?

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You don't have permission to go to Karabi mosque.

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Can you name them?

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They don't have permission like it's a police state.

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So it goes on from there.

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The Islamicists know they've got the government backing,

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the media backing.

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Why are you saying they're Islamicists?

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Sure.

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There's nothing about this mosque that's in any way

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like they're harboring terrorists and we suspect that.

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They're not even saying that.

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They just hate Muslims.

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That's all this is.

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Yeah.

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There's nothing going on here that like we're

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going to make an expose documentary about something

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other than, I mean, the only thing that's revealed

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is I fucking hate Muslims.

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That's the only thing that Robertson is revealing.

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And anyway.

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Are they making a documentary about an event?

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Are they making a documentary about something

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that is perhaps like a specific subject?

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No, it's about their fear of Muslims

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and about how they're really hung up on the idea

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that Muhammad had a child bride.

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Right.

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So they're making a documentary wherein

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they go to a mosque that has nobody affiliated with it,

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that has done anything, nobody bothering anybody.

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Really think they would bring that up.

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Nobody doing or saying anything other than just like being

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a mosque.

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Like they literally just went to a mosque

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and knocked on the door and said, we hate you.

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More or less, yeah.

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And you're a sissy.

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Yeah, and you're a sissy.

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And he probably called him a terrorist,

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but it's not on camera.

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So the other, I mean, like really,

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if we want to really slice through the bullshit,

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Tommy Robinson's in prison and Alex

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needs another guy with an accent who hates Muslims.

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That's what's going on here.

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And he's got to go to the bench.

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Yeah, but you know what, he's right.

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He does need another guy with an accent who hates Muslims.

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He tried to get some of Tommy Robinson's contemporaries

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in the UK, and none of them had it.

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None of them were committed enough to their bigotry.

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This dude is way in.

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This guy has committed a lot of time.

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Based on his 2014 behaviors, he has the bona fides

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to be an Infowars guest for sure.

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And so like, look, I mean, look, you're making a documentary.

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I don't believe you.

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You're agitating.

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You're trying to create a, like you're

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trying to do a jackass butt with pissing off Muslims

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or something like that.

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Something along those lines.

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And when you say things like in this next clip,

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I really don't think that I'm going to take

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your position as sincere.

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Europe's not even for Europeans now.

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I mean, that's what we're told.

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It's bad.

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I mean, well, they just announced yesterday

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the UN wants 600 million people to enter

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the US in the next 10 years.

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And they're going to organize them into the weapons system,

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a two to one vote to totally enslave everybody.

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I don't understand what you're saying.

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600 million people is ludicrous.

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Wait, did he say 600 million?

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He did.

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In the next 10 years, 600 million people.

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I just must have ripped that out because I assumed

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that he said 600,000.

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Because that seemed almost like a reasonable number.

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No.

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Do you want me to go back?

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Yeah.

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On 600 million people.

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That's bananas.

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Yeah.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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So if I understand correctly, the UN

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just called for one tenth of the world's population

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to move to the United States?

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To triple the population of the United States.

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Now, the UN did just put out an estimate.

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That's a great workforce.

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We could use that.

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Think of the fucking building that would need to go out.

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Housing.

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So much housing.

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Everybody would have jobs.

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Could use some of this unused land.

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Yeah.

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So the UN did put out an estimate of like 68 million

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people were displaced in 2017.

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So what I think Alex is doing is assuming

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that that means that they want us to take them all for 10

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years, assuming that that many people will

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be displaced every year.

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I think that's what he's doing.

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But I don't know him saying that.

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You're giving him a lot of credit for math.

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And I disagree.

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Well, because I looked for 600 million people

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to the United States, UN.

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I used all sorts of combinations of words.

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You did everything you could.

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I couldn't find anything other than estimating

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that 68 million people were displaced in 2017.

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So that's the only.

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And when I try and figure out what's

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the warped propaganda math of this,

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that's the only thing I can come up with.

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But I know that no one is pitching that.

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No.

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That's absurd.

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That's a strange pitch, if they are.

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Even the most ardent people who are like,

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let's take folks in, still aren't saying,

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let's bring in 600 million.

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I think I've legitimately said we shouldn't have borders.

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But when you say 600 million people

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should come to the United States,

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there's a part of me that's like, hmm,

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that might be too many, just from a logistical standpoint.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I don't think that we have the carrying capacity for that

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within our economy, within just our infrastructure.

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I think we can carry a lot more than we are.

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But tripling it in 10 years is absurd.

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Send them all to Nebraska.

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There's so many things you would need to do

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in order to accommodate that.

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I think it's possible, but it's almost impossible.

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I want two senators from Nebraska,

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and I want 450 House representatives from Nebraska.

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I want all 600 million right there,

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and I want to make sure that they control

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every voting block except for the Senate.

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That's the trick.

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It's a wild, wild propaganda line that I just...

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The Electoral College would get real weird

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if that was the case.

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So Alex made a prediction on the Thursday show

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that General Kelly is gonna get fired within the week.

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So we can look for that.

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And then Alex in this next clip makes another prediction

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that it pivots pretty quick.

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It's all being planned towards this fall for a big crisis,

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and that's why they want to censor those of us

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that are exposing it.

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The fall of rage is coming.

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We know this prediction.

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We've heard it a million times.

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No, we've never heard that the fall of rage is coming.

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Well, he was predicting the summer of rage in 2018.

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Well, the summer of rage always comes.

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We're already at the end of July.

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Who knows?

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August is probably not gonna be too exciting.

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Fall of rage.

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We've also seen him do that over the course of years

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where summer is waning on.

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He's like, wow, this winter is gonna be fucked up.

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Right.

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Well, it's gonna actually just be

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the winter of our discontent.

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It's not really gonna be rage.

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It's gonna be more like a malaise.

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It's always something.

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It's always just around the corner.

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Seasons.

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Because they want this to take place.

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So the country is in grave danger.

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And I could sit up here with a nice smile

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about all this and everything,

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but you don't just think Trump getting in

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was the beginning of the victory.

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That's not gonna happen unless we take action.

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Trump winning was not the victory.

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It was the beginning.

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And the globalists now are awake.

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They're making their move.

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And it's very sad to watch them.

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And the footage I've got of black people

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beating up white people in California yesterday

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and Hispanics attacking whites

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and just believing it's okay

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because you like America, F America.

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How they were trained to hate the country

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they want to be part of

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is the mind control and the essence of evil.

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Please don't forget,

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we've got the new amazing krill oil,

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fish oil, and roll call.

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No! God damn it!

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Pretty smooth.

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What even is krill oil?

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It's like fish oil.

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It's another...

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No, I know what krill is.

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I know what oil is.

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I don't know what he thinks he's selling.

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He's selling some bullshit.

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I don't know what krill...

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I don't know when you put those two words together

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what that is supposed to be advantageous for.

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Brain function.

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Whales eat krill and whales are big,

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so krill oil is...

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You take krill oil,

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you'll be able to sing like a whale.

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I don't know, man.

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That sounds right.

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I just love that.

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I buy that.

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I just love that because it's like,

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hey, white people are getting beat up by various races.

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Hold on, we got a special.

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Because he heard that music

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coming to take him out to break.

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He's like, I'm going to add pivot

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and break some kids' necks

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with this fucking pivot.

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Damn.

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That was harsh.

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That was a twist.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I can't get enough of that.

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It's so invalidated.

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So stupid.

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We should do an episode where it's just those.

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Like, just grab as many...

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Best of add pivots?

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Just grab as many add pivots as you can

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and we're just going to roll with each one of them

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and see exactly if we...

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Like, here's what we do.

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There's no way...

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We guess how many words into it it takes

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to get to the add pivot.

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But we've heard all of them already that we've gone over.

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I mean, there's hundreds of them in my catalog.

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There's more.

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Yeah, there's way more.

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But to do that,

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you would not be surprised by them anymore

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because we know we're doing an episode of add pivot.

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But that's the point.

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No.

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That's when we're doing a name that tune kind of situation.

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I think he's going to go through a second.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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Pivot that add.

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The new game show with Alex Jones.

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No whammies.

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No whammies.

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Ooh, we went four seconds.

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Sorry, you busted.

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No, you busted.

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Ah.

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So yeah, I don't know.

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But it is what it is.

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It's just standard ask Alex.

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Trying to really get white fear going

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and then pivot it really hard into selling.

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We haven't been in the present day with Alex for a while

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to the point where going back in time.

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Also, if they kick him off YouTube, that kills our roulette.

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Yeah, that's true.

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We'll find a way around it.

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We'll see.

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We haven't seen like in 2009

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or even with like Jim Baker and Carrie Cassidy,

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like we've been doing a lot of different things.

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But when you go into present day Alex,

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the racism is so stark.

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It's very, very overt.

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It's not hidden.

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It's not dog whistly.

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It's literally just we can't let brown people in.

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We're afraid that white people will be hurt by this.

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And there's almost an implication through like the,

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you know, he's saying that like the globalists

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and the liberals have brainwashed

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the existing minority population.

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Yeah.

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But there's also a kernel of it that is like

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we were stupid to let them in to begin with.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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There is a feeling of we've already gone too far.

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Whites for whites.

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Europeans not even for Europeans anymore.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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That sort of shit.

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They're not even American.

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It's why do you care?

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Oh, cause they're traditionally white.

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Okay.

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Could be.

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But they're, yeah, it's hard.

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It's hard to listen to, you know, on a lot of levels

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because sure, he's not dropping ends, you know, or whatever.

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He's not saying I hate black people, anything like that.

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But everything he's saying,

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almost everything he's saying.

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Legitimately.

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Darkly, darkly, and deeply racist.

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Yeah.

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It's.

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Yeah.

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It's too, it's stupid.

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Terrifyingly so.

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But you know, this is another piece of the,

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like some of the danger of kicking him off

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of these platforms and stuff like that.

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And it's another further danger of giving him

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superficial, lame punishments.

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Is that what you end up doing is driving him further

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towards the worst part of what he already is.

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Yeah.

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Because if he does end up getting kicked off,

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let's say YouTube or Facebook permanently,

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he has nothing else, he has no fucking skin in the game.

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Like let's pretend that he does make all his money

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off selling his own supplements or whatever.

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He has no ads to really worry about or any of that shit.

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So why wouldn't he veer even further down

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the white nationalist path?

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Like why wouldn't he,

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because he's already very obviously that guy.

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Yeah.

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And has been for a long time.

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Yeah.

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Perhaps the only thing that's keeping him from being

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like an outright David Duke type persona

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is the fear of losing his social media platforms.

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Well, but you.

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So if you take away that,

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then maybe you get to see the mask drop

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and him be like, look, I've been hamstrung

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by social media for a long time.

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I've been trying to make it clear,

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but I haven't been able to.

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Look, this is a white country

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and that is what I care about.

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But I think you hit the nail on the head

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earlier in the episode when you said that those places

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are by definition so exclusionary

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that you're not going to get the same audience.

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No, totally.

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Like he can't be kicked off of YouTube and Facebook

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because even if he does still survive,

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his revenue will go way down.

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Unless there is dark money and that sort of thing.

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And who knows if that kind of thing

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is not going to leave him.

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But if dark money is there,

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dark money isn't interested in Stormfront.

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They might be.

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Well, I mean, I'm sure they are,

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but not to the same financing level that I think

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people who are on YouTube and Facebook still get.

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Here's what you're not taking into account

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is that like that world-

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Bees.

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Bees.

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Bees.

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Bees are always a factor that you forget.

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My girl.

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So the thing that you're not taking into account

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is that world, the Stormfront world,

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the gab world, that sort of stuff.

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What they lack chiefly is a really charismatic front man.

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And if Alex gets pushed into a corner,

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he could just sort of drop all pretenses and be that.

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David Duke doesn't even really have the charisma

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that an Alex Jones has.

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You can't imagine the danger that Alex Jones could present

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if he had to act,

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like if he didn't have those things to worry about.

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Let's imagine a scenario where like he loses his kids.

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Whatever pretense or whatever pretext you have,

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the answer is Waco, but really big.

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Or just a rhetorical Waco.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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But you could have a situation where he ends up losing

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his custody of his children.

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At the same time, he's kicked off the social media platforms

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that reined in the rhetoric to some extent.

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You could see him go hog wild into just becoming

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the next Metzger, you know, like that leader

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of the white nationalist movement, neo-Nazi shit.

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You could-

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I'm not saying-

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Not Kurt Metzger.

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No, no, no.

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I can't remember the guy's first name.

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Yeah.

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Bald dude, it was that.

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No, no, no, I know who you're talking about.

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I just want to be clear.

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The, I'm not saying that that's necessarily the path

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that it would go down,

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but it's a really dangerous possibility.

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Because, you know, Kara-

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You just wrote a great movie, all right?

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Propagandist.

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Right.

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Backed into a corner.

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Down on his luck.

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Nothing to lose.

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Right.

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Finds new success, builds it eventually into a thing

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that cannot be stopped.

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Eventually, the movement goes outside of his control.

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He has a change of heart, tries to fight back,

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is then cannibalized by his own movement.

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His redemption arc doesn't exist.

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He's a fucking monster and he dies miserably.

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That's our movie.

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It's a great movie.

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Sure.

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Sold.

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Sounds indie as hell.

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I don't know, man.

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I don't think that that's the most likely outcome,

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but it's definitely one I see as being like-

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A possibility.

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Certainly, logistically possible,

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given the players and given the tendencies.

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I don't know for sure who knows what tomorrow will bring,

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but who knows?

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So we got a couple more clips left

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and it's with the health ranger, Mike Adams.

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I cannot believe he's still around.

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He is.

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And he comes in for a very specific reason

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that I will get to after this clip.

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Okay.

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The president's listening.

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Great job, Mike Adams, getting a report out.

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If people want a blueprint,

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I can't believe that other people didn't put a blueprint out.

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I can't believe that I literally got asked by

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high level people in the government to do this.

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Do you think it makes me feel good that,

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oh, I'm special.

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They're asking us to do it.

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No, it scares the living hell out of me

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that no one else seems to give a crap.

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And that's why they want to shut down

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because we know what pieces of filth they are

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and we have the answers to defeat them.

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The realization from this, Alex,

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that you are alluding to is that no one is coming to save us.

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There's not some great deity out there

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that's going to save us from this political situation.

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We have to stand up and save ourselves.

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Yeah, it's weird that that's your-

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I thought your deity was God

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and he was going to save you, like literally.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So that's weird.

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There is no deity.

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There's no God coming to,

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I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

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Kind of talk about God all the damn time on the show

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as a God will save us, but all right, whatever.

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All right, fine.

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You want to sell out your own religious beliefs.

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That's your business.

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The reason that Mike's on is that Mike Adams

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put out a 62-page treatise on,

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oh boy, you're shaking your head.

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No, no.

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Did he nail it to the wall of the Catholic church?

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He might as well if he posted it on naturalnews.com.

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Same thing, same thing.

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Basically.

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Mike Martin Luther Adams of our time.

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Six of one, half dozen of the other, same bit of business.

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So he wrote this thing and it's the mainstream media's,

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their battle plan decoded.

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That's the sort of theme of it.

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That's the long-

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It's good that he decoded it for us.

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Anytime anybody tells me they're decoding something,

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I'm going to tell you I'm not into it.

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Seems decoded.

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So this is called-

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Decoded fanning.

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The censorship master plan decoded,

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and then in parentheses, i.e. the Adams report.

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The blueprint for how tech giants

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covertly silence online speech

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and how America can fight back

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against corporate tech monopolists.

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By Mike Adams, founder, naturalnews.com,

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censored.news, real.video, counterthink.com,

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naturalpedia.com, and 300 plus more websites.

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Naturalpedia.com?

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Oh no.

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Fill in host for Alex Jones of infowars.com.

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Peer reviewed science paper author.

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Ah, we got one peer reviewed science paper.

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I'm going to need an asterisk on that.

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I'm going to need to see a citation.

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Citation needed.

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So it's got more credits after that.

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It's a load of nonsense.

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So I made the mistake of reading this.

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That was a bad idea.

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I have approximately 15 pages of notes that I took

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over the course of it,

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which we're not going to go into now.

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That's not good.

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But I will probably post a breakdown of this

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by Sunday or so.

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I'll post this on the website,

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really breaking down what he's trying to do here.

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And what he's trying to do is pitch this idea.

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I mean, the main thesis of it is essentially

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that there's a conspiracy between the mainstream media,

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what he calls the liberal tech giants,

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and fact checking sites like PolitiFact or Snopes,

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that they're all in conspiracy together

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to shut down conservative speech.

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This seems like it would track,

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except for the lack of evidence that the mainstream media

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or tech giants are actually doing anything.

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I don't know of any tech giants that are liberal

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in any sense.

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No, certainly not.

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I don't know of any of them.

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No, it doesn't seem that way.

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Also, the other problem is that these fact checking sites

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are not really on the side of liberal stuff.

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Like if you go to PolitiFact or if you go to Snopes,

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you'll see very many instances of them

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like breaking down liberal leaning lies

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that have been put out.

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Yeah, they're kind of more dedicated to people

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just saying real, say real things.

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They're very much, they debunk both sides.

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They're very much in my camp of like,

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if you want to talk about reality, let's talk about,

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if your policy is like,

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I think tax cuts will benefit the economy

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and mine is, I don't think tax cuts

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are gonna benefit the economy.

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That's a conversation we can have.

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If your policy is like,

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I think we should make sure that parents and children

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are never allowed near each other,

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then that's not a thing that you can have a conversation with.

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PolitiFact is all about just like,

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say things that are real.

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Otherwise, go the fuck away.

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Yeah, so the long and short of this,

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because I don't want to spend like an hour

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talking about all of the bullshit that's in here.

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It's just constant undefended statements.

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It's just like assertions that don't pan out to anything.

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Like, oh, these tech giants are liberal.

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There's that and there's no proof of it.

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There's no evidence given in any point.

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It's just conspiratorial nonsense

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and it's written like an eighth grade paper.

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It's really, really poorly written

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to the point where I was fact checking

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and at the top of my notes, it's really sincere.

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Like, well, the problem with this is X, Y, and Z.

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And then towards the end, I'm like,

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Mike, what the fuck are you talking about?

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Like, I start to get mad at him in my notes.

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You have broken my spirit, Mike.

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I start to refer to him in the second person.

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I'm like, what are you talking about?

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You motherfucking idiot.

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As if we're IMing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's crazy.

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So there's one thing though,

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there's a trend that goes through this

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that I think is really important to point out.

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And I'll just read you this paragraph

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that I think is a mess.

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Quote, there was a time in America

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when one specific group of people

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was told to sit at the back of the bus.

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Certain cafes were reserved for whites only

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and people were judged and punished

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based on the color of their skin.

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Online censorship by tech giants

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now judges people based on the color of their thoughts

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and conservatives, Trump supporters,

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and advocates of natural health content

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are overtly told we don't serve your kind here.

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An obvious throwback to the era of-

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The natural health part?

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Right, that's a little petty.

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You threw that one in there?

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Yeah.

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That's a little bit weird.

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That's a little like-

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That's natural.

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That's about me.

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And they don't like natural health.

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Right.

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Okay, all right.

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That's a throwback to an era of discrimination

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and intolerance that Americans have roundly rejected.

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So the part that I really want to draw

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a sharp focus to is I was reading this like,

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holy shit, the color of their thoughts.

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I think that you're proud of that as a turn of phrase,

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but he keeps using it.

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Like to the point where it's like, oh.

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You get one use of that.

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And he also complains so much around the times

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when he uses that phrase about like

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white male Christian opinions not being welcome.

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And when you say the color of their thoughts,

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if you're using that as a metaphor once, like you said,

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I think it's clunky for someone like you to use,

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I'm suspicious.

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But when you keep using it and the context is so clear

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that you're worried that white men aren't being listened to,

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I know what you mean.

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Right.

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The color of your thoughts is white thoughts.

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If you put it like that is a 75% of the way through,

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that's your turn of phrase where it's like,

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boom, that's gonna take me home into the conclusion.

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I fucking nailed that.

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What I mean is red state.

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What I mean is like the color of your thoughts meaning red.

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Ooh, that's possible.

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Meaning that kind of thing.

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He doesn't mean that.

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And then if you use it multiple times,

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what it means is white.

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What it means is white thoughts.

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I have bad news.

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He first used it on page five.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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You get one use of that.

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That's your fucking closer.

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He does that and then he continues to use it.

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The other things that I just think would be fun to point out

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are just his constant complaints about like,

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you're not allowed to express white Christian,

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Caucasian culture.

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And to that,

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I think that this argument gets brought up a lot

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and I'd like to respond to that.

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You are.

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You're just not allowed to do the racist stuff.

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That's a part of it.

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You know what I mean?

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Like if you want to have a barbecue on the 4th of July,

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fair play to you.

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Enjoy.

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That's good.

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Everyone loves that.

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Go broil a hot dog.

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It's great.

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That's super fun.

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Or if you come from Irish heritage

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and you want to celebrate your Irish heritage,

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ain't nobody going to complain.

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The problem is when-

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Ancestry.com is there for you.

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The problem comes when the part of your culture,

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you're mad you can't celebrate is the South will rise again.

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You know-

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Or trying to rewrite what happened during the civil war.

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All right.

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When that is the whiteness that you want to celebrate,

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that's the heritage,

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understandably people have a part of that

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or a problem with that.

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When Gavin McGinnis wants to celebrate the patriarchy,

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which he would just describe as like,

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hey, this is my male identity.

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The problem with that is for decades, for centuries,

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the patriarchy, what it represented was women being things,

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women being beaten and everyone thinking,

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hey, it's a joke that you beat your wife.

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As long as it's not larger than your thumb.

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Okay, sure.

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So when he goes around with his male fraternity

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of chauvinists and they scream at people,

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the patriarchy is back, that sort of thing.

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It's really clear that people will hear that and be like,

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oh, what you're really excited about

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is the idea of being able to hit me privately.

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Yeah.

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That sort of thing,

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as opposed to if you're just someone who's like,

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I like being a guy.

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No one's mad about that.

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No, no, there's a lot of people

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who are actually super cool about that.

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No one's mad about that.

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So also, I'm just gonna read this one last passage

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because I think it's very funny

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and it just illustrates how stupid Mike Adams is.

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This is from page 20.

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Quote, in essence, media monopolists claim

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that they're gods who possess the divine right

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to interpret reality to the masses.

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The claim smacks of journo cultism.

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I think he's coining a phrase there.

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As it is no different from the delusions

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of the high priests of the ancient Maya and Aztec cultures,

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who also proclaim that only a select class

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of divinely ordained individuals could speak to God

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and interpret reality for the masses.

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Sounds right.

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Hey, Mike, have you ever heard of the Holy of Holies?

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Hey, Mike, you ever looked into Christian history,

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you dumb twat?

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Wait, wait, wait.

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So journo cultism, is that what we're doing now?

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That's what he's doing.

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Just grabbing any two random words

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and just throw them into an ism?

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Yeah.

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And so he's like, oh yeah,

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that's just like the Aztec and Mayan cultures

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or Christianity.

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That's the beginning of Christianity.

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No, Dan, here's why you're stupid.

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Because you're a birocommunistic capitalist.

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That's what you are.

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You're a commu-alcoholisibist.

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That does the biz and then you're the bistman.

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I believe in public property of alcohol.

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Yeah, then that's evil.

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Clearly.

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Sure.

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That's just like what the Mayans believed, Dan.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And that's why we can't allow Muslims in.

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That's some hot nonsense when you're pointing a finger

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at the Aztecs when it's the exact same thing

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the Christians did.

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So crazy.

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No, no, no, no, don't rewrite history, Dan.

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There's that whole section of the church

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that people weren't allowed to go in

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where the priests would go in.

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No idea what you're talking about.

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And they would hear messages from God

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and come back and interpret it.

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What are you talking about?

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That's one of the reasons that Jesus was so revolutionary

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as an idea because you could have

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a personal relationship with him.

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And it got through, it broke down the walls

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between the holy of holy and the masses.

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There was an ability to have a,

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you could play a role in religion

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as opposed to it being told to you by the priests.

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So the idea that-

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And it only took 1,500 years for that to actually happen.

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The idea that Mike Adams is pointing to this

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as some sort of weird, different thing

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that the Aztecs and Mayans were like,

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I don't think, you want to talk about Christian culture

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and you really love white, male, Christian identity,

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you don't even know what Christ stood for.

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I'm not saying you aren't a Christian or anything like that.

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I am.

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I am going to, I'm going to posit

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that you don't have an in-depth understanding

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or maybe even an interest in it.

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There's no truth greater than that evangelical Christianity

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as it is right now loves every part of the Bible

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except for the parts where Jesus is allowed to talk.

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Where Jesus is like, hey guys.

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Yeah.

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Where Jesus is like, you know all the stuff

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you guys think is cool?

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Stop it.

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Yep, yep.

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They don't like the part where he's a new way.

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They want the Old Testament, but with the like,

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you know, they want the meat of the Old Testament.

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Right.

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They wish Jesus said what's in the Old Testament.

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Yeah.

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It's basically why they're-

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Yeah, exactly.

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They want the cachet of the like,

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the redemptive narrative.

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Exactly.

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And the like-

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Exactly.

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The crucifixion being manifest glory to all of us.

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Right.

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And like, you know, our sins being washed away.

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They want that stuff,

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but they want the fucking really hardcore rules.

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Yeah.

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And bigotry of the Old Testament.

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Yeah.

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They want that really bad.

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It's like the, it's like when Bush came,

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like G-dubs and it was like,

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oh, this is compassionate conservative.

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And you're like, those two words can't be near each other.

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But it's good marketing.

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They can't be near each other.

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Good branding, baby.

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Oh, you know, it's just like the great parts of the Bible

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where G-d murdered people that He didn't like.

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You know, that's the stuff that we really want,

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but also Jesus is there and He's super nice.

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Right.

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And He might've killed a friend when He was a kid.

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Yeah.

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He also killed some dragons though.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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Carrie Cassidy told me about that.

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Yeah.

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So we got one more clip left and this is so familiar

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and I'm actually starting to become

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a little bit disappointed with myself

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that I didn't understand this game much earlier.

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I kind of did intuitively,

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but I never was able to really put it into words,

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but it's something we talked about

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back in the 2009 episodes and we see it here

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and it's something we've seen all the time.

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And again, I'm a little ashamed.

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I should have been able to crystallize

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this thought much earlier.

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We're being overrun by the enemy.

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We have the force to absolutely repel them and defeat them,

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but not if we're not aware.

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Well, I'll share with you my worst case scenario.

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Oh no.

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They could do a nuclear false flag, dirty bomb.

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What?

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Or a nuclear attack.

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Oh, don't put it past them to kill Trump.

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It takes out Trump, exactly.

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It takes out Trump, they blame it on patriots

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or they blame it on Trump's negotiations with North Korea.

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They could say it's North Korea fighting back against-

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Or Iran.

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Or Iran, exactly.

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But they take out Trump and they take out

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200,000 Americans at the same time

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and then they blame conservatives

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and then they use that to blacklist all conservatives,

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all speech online and any dissenting views.

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This is the plan.

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They have to silence you, Alex,

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and they have to silence me before-

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Exactly.

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They wouldn't be taking the risk to shut us down

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when it wakes everybody up with a Streisand effect

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if they weren't at a gut level.

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I know.

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I think well before the election, they're gonna hit us.

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And I agree.

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I think it's gonna be a biological or a nuclear event.

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But I think they want nuclear to kill POTUS.

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See, that's the thing.

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All they have to do is,

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and I'm not giving anybody ideas

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that they don't already know about,

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because they're trying to kill Trump every day.

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They're death threats against Trump every day.

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I mean, that was true for Obama, too,

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when he was in office.

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No, nobody ever threatened Obama with that.

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Go Google that list.

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Nobody ever threatened Obama with death.

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He was just classy enough not to complain about it.

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Nobody ever did it.

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No propagandists like this backing him up.

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That's why he never complained about it,

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is because it never happened.

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Never happened.

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So look, the thing that I was referring to before the clip

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is this is a phishing expedition that they're going on.

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This is just preemptive narrative.

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It's the same thing with when Alex in 2009 is saying that

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17 states are gonna be hit by a nuclear attack,

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a terrorist, a white nationalist terrorist,

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and that means that it's a false flag.

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Not fully spelling all that out.

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He's much more amateurish about it now,

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because he is spelling it out a little bit too much.

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He's making more specific predictions in terms of,

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I think it's gonna be a biological or nuclear attack.

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And he said well before the midterms,

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which is like, your time's running out, baby.

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So like, he's much more clunky about this now,

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but as I reflect on it, I realize that he was doing this

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all the time that we've been covering him.

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He was talking about how they're gonna attack

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the inauguration, they're gonna fly a helicopter into it

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and shit, he does this all the time

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with these preemptive narrative,

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like it's the track he's laying.

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For like, okay, if this happens, I'm gonna hedge my bets,

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so I'll be able, I mean we talk about this

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all the fucking time, it's brilliant.

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Because what you do is you create this real serious thing

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for your audience to be afraid of.

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It's not gonna happen, but on the off chance,

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something goes way crazy, and something does happen.

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You're Nostradamus.

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Then you're Nostradamus, and if it doesn't happen,

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you can say, well, we talked about it,

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so the globalists got scared,

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and they didn't pull the trigger.

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So he does this all the fucking time.

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So the end of this, what I wanna come to,

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is I didn't expect, this is a little longer

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than I predicted, and I'm sorry about that.

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I didn't predict we'd have 20 minutes up top

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talking about the fake bands and stuff like that.

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I thought we'd get that done in five.

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But everyone's really focused on these fake bands,

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and I understand why.

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Everyone wants to do a little dance

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and be like, ha ha, we're doing something,

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you're going down, you're going down,

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wink, wink, doop, doop, doop, doop.

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They wanna do that because it's fun

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and it's gratifying for people who aren't doing anything.

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And I understand that, I don't expect better coverage

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out of the media.

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The thing that I resent a little bit

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is that the way they are covering it

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is an advantage to Alex.

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It plays into his hands.

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And in present day, as everyone's talking about this,

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people aren't talking about the fact

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that he had a New Zealand preacher

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who prayed that a homosexual would commit suicide,

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and is being deported for very legitimate reasons

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for harassing Muslims.

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And at the same time, in that interview,

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they very clearly express a position

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that you should be scared of everyone who's not white.

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All of this white fear is very consistent,

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people aren't talking about that nearly fucking enough,

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and then at the same time, it's just business as usual.

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All this is just like, this is what he does.

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If you wanna ban it, ban it.

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If you don't, then stop, stop helping him.

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I don't know.

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It's hard for me to put a button on this,

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but I'm a little man, I'm a little man.

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I think you're absolutely right.

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If you're gonna pretend to censor this shit,

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well then fucking suck it up and do it.

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You can't put-

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And if you're not going to, then don't bother with it.

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Why are you doing these bullshit half measures

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that are exactly what he hopes you do?

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Because all you're doing is giving him

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two weeks of full-on, guess what,

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these motherfuckers are trying to take us down,

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you need to give us more money.

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And then whenever you let him back on,

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he's gonna do the same fucking shit,

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and he's gonna go-

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Even before you let him back on.

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Exactly, exactly.

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And then whenever he does get back on,

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he's gonna be like, see, look, they can't stop us.

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It's because of your support that we're not taken down

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from the air forever, and we need your support now

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more than ever because they're gonna try

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and take us down again.

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It's all part of the same fucking game.

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Well, I would liken it to playing poker

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against a really aggressive bluffing opponent.

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Yeah.

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Where you're like trying to raise them a little bit,

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you're doing a shit raise,

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and then they're just gonna push back with a,

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like they're gonna go all in.

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Yeah.

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They're gonna go all in on you.

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You have to, then you're in the position of folding

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or calling their aggression.

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Yeah.

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You have to either step to the plate and push,

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or fold your fucking cards.

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Yeah.

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Because otherwise you're gonna lose.

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Yeah.

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You're gonna lose that fucking hand.

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Alex Jones is metaphorically a bully at a poker table.

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Yeah.

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And you're playing shitty poker against him.

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Yeah.

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That's all I can say.

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Agreed.

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So, ante up, shuffle up and deal, and try to do better.

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And the problem is, you can't now.

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Yeah, no, it's too late.

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Well, maybe you can, uh.

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Well, I mean, if they actually.

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Here's the problem.

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You can't right now.

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Because if you now are like, hey, Alex,

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you said all the same shit on your show

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that you did upload to YouTube.

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Oh, we're gonna strike you and now we're gonna ban you.

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Yeah.

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That feeds into the narrative he's already laying.

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Yeah.

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So you already, that's like calling that all in bet.

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You know, that's what it is.

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After you've already folded.

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You're showing, you've already shown weakness

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and now all you're doing is putting your money in

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when he's already challenged you.

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Yeah.

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You can't do it.

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There's no good answer for these fake,

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supposed liberal tech giants.

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Yeah.

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That are basically just helping the monsters

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amongst us proliferate their information.

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Agreed.

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So congratulations, everyone.

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We all did it.

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If you want to find us, how do you find us, Dan?

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We're on knowledgefight.com.

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Do you, what if you're on Twitter?

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Go to knowledge underscore fight.

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How about if you're on Facebook?

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If you're on Facebook, you can find us there.

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What if you want to go to.

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We haven't been banned.

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What if you want to go to a Facebook group?

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There's one called go home and tell your mother

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you're brilliant.

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All right, if you were gonna download a podcast,

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where would you do it?

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I would go to iTunes.

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If you wanted to leave a review,

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where would you do it? iTunes again.

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Or on Facebook.

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You can leave a review on Facebook.

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That'd be very nice. You can do that.

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And Dan, tonight, it is my turn.

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Is it?

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Yeah. Who cares?

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You can take it.

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And I say to you and I say to all of us,

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go fuck yourself, Robertson,

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and I hope you get deported from New Zealand too,

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you pile of shit.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first name caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.