Transcript/183: February 12-16, 2009

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed

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We are Dan. Hey, Dan. What up? What's your favorite drink?

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My favorite drink is probably cranberry splash Sierra Mist a seasonal variety that's only available during the winter months

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It's delicious. Just crisp enough enough cranberry flavor to get you through those that is Chicago winters

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You are that is

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Infuriatingly specific it is

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Infuriatingly obscure. Oh, no. Oh, no. I asked a question and I got an answer

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I know but it's it's such a you answer for some reason that answer just it

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Wrankles my my hackles. What's your favorite drink?

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Uh, probably a Jameson and ginger ale. See, I'm a simple man with say that's a very Jordan answer

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That's a very Jordan answer. Yes. We are who we are. Dan half of the comedians in Chicago. That's true

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Yeah, very popular drink at the open mics and shows

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I don't think Chicago can take ownership of Jameson. I'm not saying Chicago can take ownership of Jameson and ginger ale

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Anyway, what's the point of this? I don't know. I was we're just not doing that other bit. So I'm trying I know

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new bits

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I know only what you tell me about out. That seems fair. There we go

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Oh today, we're going back to 2009. Okay are jumping back into our 2009 investigation last we left off

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We found Alex Jones

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Going through a cavalcade of stories about states asserting their sovereignty

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Yes

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If you'll recall there were a number of states that tried to push through House concurrent resolutions saying that they won't allow tyranny

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What wink and they didn't until now when they are on our last episode?

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We tracked a number of those bills and saw that they died in committee or never got voted on or just were you know?

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Whatever just left alone, so we don't need to go over a lot of that if you're interested in that

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Please go back to our last 2009 episode where we cover it

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I only bring it up because it's very relevant where we pick back up February 12th through 16th is what we're gonna cover here

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Alex is in what I can only describe as a terrible holding pattern uh-huh he cannot get off this story

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Really this story is the biggest fucking deal in the world to him right cuz he's hoping it's the session 2.0 exactly

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That's what he's going for he even during the course of this time period that we're gonna go over has one of the house

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Representatives on and he talks about how this is secession and the guy's like hold on hold on

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We're doing here so even there's a little bit of a miscommunication between him and that house representative

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I am starting to believe the so our 2009 investigation all cards on the table are

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about trying to find about what Alex was up to at the beginning of the

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Publicization of the Tea Party right and then secondarily to figure out when he starts talking about George Soros

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Yes

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Those are the two things I'm sort of looking into in 2009 and I believe that this story that we discussed as a oh

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This is one of Alex's narratives on our last 2009 episode might be a huge deal

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Okay, it might be a very very big piece of his transition towards the Tea Party. Okay, I am

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Reserving judgment on that and I think we're gonna talk about this story again

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But we won't on this episode because all of it is repeats. Okay, okay all of it

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So I'm sitting here listening to these episodes. I'm like, how the fuck am I gonna how am I gonna dig something out of this?

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He's just it's like he's in syndication just doing reruns. Yeah. Yeah, like yes. Yes States. He's like through 10th amendment

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He's like great Seinfeld's on at 9 every night fine

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It's it's along those lines. Yeah, and I just I can't I mean we are we had to do a show

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You know what? I mean we do

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So the 12th is mostly that many as mark dice on to talk about the Illuminati and shit and like that's fun

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I don't even want to listen at

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The Illuminati I don't want to listen to it because mark dice is not interesting at this point

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He will become interesting a little bit later

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And down the road when spoiler alert he turns on Alex and starts talking about how he's a shill

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Right and then mysteriously comes back as an infowars contributor. Yeah, that's when he becomes mark dice clay

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Early on he's still just whatever guy who's writing books about the Illuminati

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Yeah, not trying to troll people on the streets of Venice rare wearing flip-flops

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So at this point he's just like yeah, whatever we will deal with him down the road, but in his current

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state

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Unevolved state I find him very boring right so we get to the 13th and let me consult my notes here to talk about the

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Stuff we're not gonna go over

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Man, it's a lot of tyranny ramble. What got cut what got cut man, so he does do his big

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Everyone stop traffic because I got a big thing coming up. Oh, yeah, though. He does that again

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That's a fun thing that he does in this time period that I enjoy. I wish he could bring that back

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Yeah, that'd be fun. That is that is no fun. Now. Why why isn't he screaming like everybody stop traffic?

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Tell the person in the car next to you

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I agree with whatever the president does cuz he's too worried about self-driving cars hitting his fans

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Oh, that would be don't get into traffic robots will get you trouble

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Yeah, so he does that and because it the narrative that he's trying to build up is this idea that

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FEMA is gonna do they're trying to find places to dig up mass graves because they're gonna turn on America and all this shit

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They're trying to find places. So this is all about a guy got a scout. There's a guy who wrote

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Something on a blog. I'm not sure exactly the website

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Whatever who cares. It's just a guy with a blog and he might be some sort of

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Conservative journalist. I don't I don't know those two words don't attach to each other

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I'm not sure his bona fides, but he is a guy who interviewed a whistleblower

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And this audio has come out now. It's plays it on the show. We're not gonna listen to it because the audio

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Quality is terrible and it's just like I can just tell you what he says. It's Zach

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No, the guy Zach is like Zach is not as 12

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Yeah, but he starts young. He starts young could be Rex is already a contributor. It's fair point

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Yeah

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So what he says is that he worked for like a FEMA organization and that they got a or something like local

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A local organization not FEMA FEMA called them and wanted to know where power plants are where police stations are

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Where you could make a mass grave that sort of thing. Did they ask that specifically this guy says they did but I still

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That's such an aggressive way to start a

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Conversation. I'm not sure I a hundred percent believe this guy's story

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but even if you do believe this guy's story all this stuff sounds like exactly what the

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emergency

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Management agency and might be into when you consider the possibility of outbreaks

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Disasters natural disasters. There's all sorts of benign explanations

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We're not wanting to know where power plants are wanting to know where resources are

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Where's hospitals where where are your like triage centers that on the off chance that something breaks bad?

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Where can people get help right so we don't run into situations like we had in

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Let's say Katrina or any of these other

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mismanaged

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situations in the past

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Counterpoint it could just be somebody who is actually a white terrorist because that seems like something they would want to know as well

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Oh, so that's a prank call. It could be I don't know

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Yeah, my point is that this is this whistleblower does not blow my mind

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And what's not about your whistle?

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It's not worth stopping traffic over Alex spends a lot of the show talking about that, but that is not as important as

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As we get an appearance from our man the man who made a lot of money off gold in South Africa

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Oh boy, Bob Chapman. Oh boy

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The only reason I even see fit to Bobby chaps only reason I want to include this clip

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And his appearance is because Bob makes a very weird offer to Alex in this clip. I

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Have to every five minutes now

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Restrain my instinct my survival instinct is I have small children to get out of the country

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And I understand that I'm a marked man. I understand that there's nowhere to run that it's a global order

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No, I have to strain my instinct you of course left the United States

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Years ago seeing this, but you know you're grown up your children are adults

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You know, but I guess that's why I've expanded our operation while we're even upping the game

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Because you know that way I mean I'm just committed. I'm going to the bitter end

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Hi, just could the nightmare could all end of the dumbass and I'm sorry to use that term

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That's what it is if the dumbass public would just wake up man. It's it's it. It's so horrible Bob

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It's my 50th year in this

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Believe me. I believe you I've been there and incidentally if you want to hide your kids. I'll hide them for you

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Well, it's not even that I know there's

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Put it all in God's hands. It's just that primitive instinct

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very weird

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very weird

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Bob Bob send me your kids Alex

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You hey Alex you want to hide your kids. I will make sure they are never found again. I mean, that's just

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Weird I know it's an probably in their

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World a nice offer. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah in the crazy paranoid world

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I bet that is a nice thing to say to people I bet it's one of the nicest things yeah

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Yeah, oh man. I love you so much. I would hide your kids. Yeah, I would do it sure

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I would make your kids the most

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Never mind

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So this appearance of from Bob Chapman is most like we were used to this sort of Alex in present day

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Because of the times where Steve Pachannik has come on and Alex has had to get therapy from him

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Yeah, or John Rappaport will sometimes have to talk Alex back to life. Yeah, so Alex is in that state for half an hour

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He's just complaining to Bob. He's just like Bob shit's dark

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Also, also, let's let's first off there is a slight difference in why they left it

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Why Alex is saying he needs to leave America and why Bob actually left America Bob left America to exploit apartheid

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Well, no, Alex is fake running away from fake evil not in 2009. You know that was in his past

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Yeah, he was living in like Rhodesia and pre apartheid South Africa

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Oh, I thought he was I thought he was originally in the States and then no he was in those African countries back

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Then then he moved to the United States. I think he's in Canada at this point

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I'm not entirely sure where he lives, but I don't think he went back to South Africa

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I don't I think that the chapter of his life is like in the 70s. Well, yeah, because he would be burned alive

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It's possible. It's possible. He's wanted. Yeah or not wanted

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So either way dead or alive so about half a half an hour of them talking Alex

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Realizes like oh shit. There's a reason I have Bob Chapman on I think the enemy may have overplayed their hand

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I think this could this could bring them down Bob. I

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Think you're right, but we've got to get it to enough people

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the public but also as you say law enforcement and

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And we got to make them understand what these people are up to

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All right, let's get to the economy come back Bob Bob Chapman the international forecaster calm just some days

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It just really hits me how real it is. I

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Mean, I know it's real but just when it consciously and subconsciously in your heart your gut your soul hits you

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They've built death camps for our families

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Oh

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If I didn't know any better I would think that was intentional like Alex's that's a joke

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That is a joke though. It's solid. That's crazy

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Like if you're in the middle of this sort of a conversation tell the guy behind the board to use something else

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Don't go to that song. No way

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Excuse me, sir. I would like the soundtrack from Beverly Hills top, please

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But also in there you hear there in the middle of that conversation it dawns on Alex right in the middle of it

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Oh fuck you're here to sell gold. Exactly. What the fuck? Why have I been complaining to you for half an hour?

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Yeah, your time is valuable. Obviously, it's not you need to sell gold. So we get

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Did you just say his time is valuable? I assume it is. I know that he's got a newsletter to write

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Yeah, so he

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They they get back from break and Alex

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Start to talk to him about gold and then they talk about how great Ted Anderson's deals are and then they're so great

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Lo and behold Ted Anderson pops up. What?

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Oh my god, are they they're running the two-man game again. What a shot

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We're not used to seeing this every time Bob

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He's on the show so Ted Anderson comes in he gives his specials and then Alex gives him this one

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Hey, uh, Bob Chapman, how good of a deal is a gold and silver expert is that offered Ted is offering?

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Fantastic, absolutely fantastic

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Well the thing about it is Bob. I mean if I can get in here

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So then Ted Anderson's like it's it's not only a great deal. It's a great deal

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I why is Ted cutting in he got what he wanted. It's fantastic. It's fantastic

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Fantastic. No, hold on Bob

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No

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Cuz you don't even know how fantastic it is cuz then he goes into a long thing about how like I bought it when it

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Was really low. Yeah, you couldn't I got I got fire sale prices aren't older because I care about you

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I still don't understand this this whole gold business

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And we have been doing this show Ted Anderson has been hawking gold for the entire show

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Yeah, and I still kind of don't understand how the economics of this fucking shit works

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I don't understand what you're confused. Wait, wait, it's so you it's so he buys gold at a

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Lower cost than what it is now and then he sells you gold at the cost that it is now

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No, because then it's gonna get more

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No, so how does this how does this fucking business model work? Do you want I don't understand does he find gold?

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Does he buy it does he is he getting this from ships? And are there is he a diver? Is this what is this?

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Is this flotsam? I don't understand. Do you want to know the truth or the scale?

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So the scam is I bought this gold when it was $70 an ounce. Yeah now it's 85

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I'm gonna sell it to you for 75, right?

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Right, so I'm still getting my profit margin, right and you're getting even more profit margin

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How is that not already like wait, wait, wait

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So you're telling me a business is selling me something so I can make more money than that business

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That's how capitalism works in roots in reality

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He might have this like the price at the $75 an ounce

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But there's all kinds of like brokerage fees hidden costs those sorts of things that bump it up to I've read all the reports from

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people who've done business with that you end up with like

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$95 an ounce as opposed to the 85 that it's worth or whatever just because of all the hidden right

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That's the reality behind the stand gotcha

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No matter what the price is you're paying more for it and then also the people who work for him

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I call the dealers that you actually individually coordinate with from all the reviews that I've read

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They also do like a lot of like well if you want to if you want to sell it back

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We're probably only gonna be able to get 65 and out of course, of course

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That's your profits out right you want but you're gonna take a cut right? We're gonna take a hit, right?

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So they do that to hold people's gold hostage. Yeah, essentially tell a lot of these the gold

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And precious metal operations that aren't very

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Reputable operate that's how they make money. You're screwed coming and going. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah get them both ways

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Yeah, and the people who help get you in the door the the syrup-mouthed

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Salesmen who get you in are Bob Chapman and Alex Jones. So is there a two-man game?

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Is there like a real gold business? I mean sure I assume so. I don't know what it is

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I haven't done research, but I'm sure I'm sure there is I mean, I think there are like reputable collectors in the world

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I don't I don't know if I

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Would assume that most of the if you want to make a profit off precious metals

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Most of those people are probably scams, but if you're already rich and you just want to collect cool coins stuff like that

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Right now that I understand. I think that there's probably a lot of reputability in that world

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I I cannot get past the idea of gold bars too. This is what's really frustrating to get over that

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It's mostly he keeps saying coins that you keep saying bullion and all this shit and I'm like

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I just want a gold bar if I'm gonna invest in gold

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I want to know I want a bar and I want to have a stamp on the top of it

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I recommend you look into gold bars and see the actual size of most of them and also the value of a lot

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Yeah, they're tiny but they're super expensive, right? Those are the chocolate ones

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See now that's what I really want. Yeah, so the 13th

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We've got Bob Chapman and oh, holy cow, Willy Wonka showed up all is doing a two-man game

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So that was Friday the 13th. Yeah in a spacious state for Bob to offer to hide Alex's kids

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And of course Saturday 14th no show and we get back on the 15th on Saturday or I'm sorry on Sunday and

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Most of this show is Alex being petty as hell about Barack Obama in his first clip

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I just think I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing? This is a in response to

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The the the the bailout bill has been discussed. Yes, and then Obama went on vacation

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Over the weekend. Oh, no, you can't do that. And that means Alex has got to turn this into a gossip show

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And then well me here's an article right here. What's the rush urgent stimulus on hold?

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For the Obama's weekend off after pushing con Congress for weeks to hurry up and pass the massive

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787 million dollar stimulus plan President Obama promptly took off for a three-day holiday getaway

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Obama arrived at the home in Chicago on Friday and treated his wife to a Valentine's Day dinner downtown last night

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That's sweet

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The couple was spotted leaving upscale table 52 which specializes in southern cuisine

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With the first lady toting what appeared to be a doggy bag the president planned to spend the president's day weekend in the Windy City

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It is unexpected to sign the bill until

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Why did you say doggy bag lasciviously why is there a

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Furthermore let's I mean I

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Understand the desire to be thrifty. But Michelle, you're the first lady. You don't need leftovers. I'm just saying you don't need leftovers

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I like to imagine they gave it to a homeless person or but I just love the idea cuz what really like

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Um, yeah, he'd already gotten everything he needed out of it to be like look at these

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Yeah, they went to a nice restaurant

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Yeah

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He doesn't the only thing you get out of being like doggy bird like that sort of thing is like she can't finish for me

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Apparently this restaurant specializes in southern food, which that's oh, okay. That's a dog

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What is is southern food? That's a fucking dog. What do you mean? Do you mean like a

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a

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Down-home country food. No, you don't do you I don't know

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I just think it's really funny though, like especially in like the modern day

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So weird so fucking weird. I but here's the other here's the reason I think we don't hear about

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That like we don't hear about Trump's vacations

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Except from people who are like this is his seven millionth weekend

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consecutively playing golf at one of his properties that they are paying for because he is committing a violation of the

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emoluments

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Emoluments clause on a regular basis. Well, it's not like Obama owned that restaurant

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Yeah

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what what's different about it though is that everybody on the right is actually really relieved whenever he takes a

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Vacation because that means at least he won't do anything fucking so he's gonna do some stupid fucking tweets

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but it's not gonna be like and

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You know Trump just announced that he was gonna sell, Florida to Russia. So

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You know like they're like, oh, thank god. We've got a couple of days off. I

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Think I well, I don't think anybody wants him in anywhere near the White House

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Let him stay at one of those clubs and just tweet and well, I'll just pretend he's the president

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No, you get to go you're a big boy, oh he's inviting Putin to the White House

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Don't do that. Get a Putin look-alike. Oh, you're not fucking no

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He's lost his goddamn mind

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Yeah, perhaps I just I just like looking though at this like very benign

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Example of a presidential they went to an upscale restaurant for Valentine's Day. Yeah, it's very sweet of Obama

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It seems like they love each other. Yeah, also it's Presidents Day weekend

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If there's any time a president should be able to like I'm gonna go home this weekend

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I'm gonna do I'm gonna do my holiday. Yeah, it's Presidents Day. It's literally for me one person in the country

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I am shocked that you guys are even allowed to say it's Presidents Day. It's classified that this is just forever my day

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Oh, it's super crazy. Oh, so that's not the only thing he's getting weird about on this episode

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So so weird to live in that way

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It's so weird to live be back in 2009 where it's like and the president took his wife out

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for a very sweet

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Valentine's Day don't talk of like and the president paid a hundred and forty thousand dollars through a fake lawyer to a

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Porn star that he fucked because he didn't want the story to get out that porn star, by the way

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He fucked almost during his wife's birth and there and there are apparently tapes

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Yeah, what do you and everybody's we're just we're just living in a world where it's like sure

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I guess this is just how we live now back then. It was so amazing. Oh, he wore a brown suit

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Ah, everybody's angry. He ate a hot dog. He ate a hot dog. It was a southern hot dog

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So also another thing that Obama did I don't know if you know this he crashed somebody's plane

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At least according to Alex is very serious insinuation. There we go. All right

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So a 9-eleven truther of sorts

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Was in a plane that crashed

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These things happen. Yes, Alex would have you know that this was no coincidence

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Obama remarks on plane crash stimulus. You can pull up the video of this on YouTube, but real quick

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So he's talking about this situation with this 9-eleven truther who was in a plane that crashed and these are Barack Obama's

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Statements on yeah. Yeah, but here's the text president Obama of this from the Washington Post

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Well, thank you all for being here. And before I begin I want to say a brief word

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With the terrible tragedy that took place outside of Buffalo last night

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Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends who lost loved ones and as always our thanks goes out to the brave first responders

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Who arrived immediately and it goes on tragic events such as these remind us of the fragility of our life

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The value of the end of every single day one person is stood

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One person is stood that will this is him babbling. It's not me reading

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No

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Hey Alex, let's try that sentence again because it makes perfect sense

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One person who stood that well was Beverly Eckhart

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Who was on that flight and who I met with just days ago?

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You see Beverly lost her husband on 9-eleven became a tireless advocate for those families whose lives were forever changed

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On September 11th day. Hey, of course, she knows Hillary Clinton is a high-powered Democrat. She was she's dead now

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So there is that report right there very very suspicious

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You do the actuary math on someone who lost a husband. Yeah, 9-eleven. Yeah

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with someone who had just met with the president with someone who just died in a plane crash and

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In the fact that she was a 9-eleven truther and it is billions to one conservatively

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I want to go I want to go to Pat trip Joe. It's billions. It's billions to one

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Well, I mean that's conceivably true

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But I mean if you just pick out a bunch of variables from anybody's life

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like you and me doing this episode of the podcast if you extrapolate out like

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Someone who lived in Hawaii versus someone who does a podcast with someone who was born in a cult and neither of them died

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On 9-eleven. Well, you know, you know what I'm saying?

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Alex gets much more mileage out of his idea of what actuaries are then he deserves to like the idea that yes

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This is a very very

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Unlikely thing but it does happen like that's not that like just because there are certain aspects that are like

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That doesn't mean it. That doesn't mean it's suspicious. Also. I imagine you need to introduce the suspicion part

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I imagine that there are enough 9-eleven truthers who fly places many that it statistically sooner or later

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One of them was going to go down, right?

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This one just happened to be somewhere in a proximity that was close to the president or something

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She had met with Obama in the days before which doesn't again

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We'd not suspicious a 9-eleven truther was allowed to meet with the president

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I'm starting to think I didn't do any research into this because I was just I don't give a shit

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um, but I'm starting what I believe is maybe she's not as much of a 9-eleven truther as Alex paints her to be yeah and

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More someone who is an advocate for the families. Yeah of the sir of the dead. Yeah. Yeah 9-eleven

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I think that's probably more and I think that you probably did want more of an investigation

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I think a lot of people have

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And and fairly so so I think Alex painting her as a member of his kind of 9-eleven truth

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Organization may be inaccurate. Yeah, I don't know enough to say but that's what me gut says. Yeah

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But who cares man?

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Alex cannot make Obama sound stupid. He wants he's trying so hard. It's just him fumbling

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He's trying so hard to he's trying to talk sarcastically

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He's trying to like do all these different things, but if you just listen to the words, you're like, oh, yeah

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That's a that's good. Well constructed sentence. He's a good writer. He's got speech writers

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He's doing great. Yeah, he's doing he's doing a good job talking. It's

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Taking time out of a press conference at the start to comment on something really sad that happened in pay respects

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That's something he didn't need to do at all. No

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So most of the rest of the show is just a lot of that states are declaring their sovereignty stuff

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Yes, a lot of a lot of talk about that

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But and Alex says this and I think it's just good to reinforce that Alex Jones's opinions in

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2009 are not consistent with what he would believe in the future

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That's right. The NRA is a pro gun control group and more and more of that's coming out

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They push the 68 gun control act and got it passed. They were set up by the federal government in

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1870 they're there to neutralize and control gun owners and now Gunners of America is now on record

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The NRA is a pro gun control group, but they pose like they're pro gun. So he's he's pretty anti NRA at this point

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I know that what's gonna end up happening is he's going to say that the NRA changed at some point

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They became more lunatic ish right and I agree. They did become crazier

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Oh, they got they got wild but he's the way he's presenting them as a gun control group. That wasn't even true in 2009

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That's that's silly

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No

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That's just because he's super in with Larry Pratt and gun owners of America who again as we pointed out on our roulette episode

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Larry Pratt is one of the people who gets tricked by Sasha Baron Cohen in that new documentary, right?

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So that's delightful by being a wonderful man. Absolutely. Yeah, it's uh, it's I

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I'm not gonna watch that

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The show I'm out. Yeah, I have no interest in it, but I'll watch it

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But you know what? It's it's like as the kids say I'm there for that. Yeah. Oh, are you? Yeah. Did you watch?

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No, I haven't seen it, but I do want I I'll watch it as soon as it's put in front of me

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Yeah, that's the kind of position. I'm it. I I don't like I don't like it. Why do you I

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get I get the idea that it's fun to make them say outlandish things like

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We're gonna arm children and and put them into school

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I I don't find that funny or outlandish because what they're saying now seems like it's

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It should have been enough

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But you know what what they say now about getting one entrance for schools

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That why do you need to go further than that? That's insane. We should all be laughing at that

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Well, yeah

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Overton window has gone so far that you have to it's you might as well have these people be cartoons

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I like this is ridiculous

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I almost think the better way to do this as a parody is like put it out as a serious show and never say that

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It's a Baron Cohen do it. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Just like like because they would probably promote it

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Oh, yeah, if it was put out as a serious show

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They never realized it was a prank right because they didn't realize it was a prank while it was happening

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Yeah, that would be great. But anyway, that'd be a great we get we get Ted Koppel. Is he dead? I don't know

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Let's kill I give him I give him a real unenthusiastic

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Let's get him to we do a pure we do the exact same show but with Ted Koppel, you're right

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It would crush in the conservative media and it wouldn't they you're they wouldn't be ashamed

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They wouldn't say they were tricked. They would promote it. That's the no

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That's the failing with that idea is that the conservative right would fucking love it most likely

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Yeah, they're just like those just like those politicians where we're like

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Yeah, let's on arm kids if we put it out as a serious show conservatives would be like why haven't we already armed kids?

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Yeah, why don't we entertain this as a possible line of rhetoric? Yeah, cuz everything else we say is stupid

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Why not throw Oliver North could do a commercial for that right now even after the joke played by Sasha Baron Cohen and

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Most of the conservative right if not all would be like that's actually a good idea. Yeah

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I mean, I know it was a prank show, but it doesn't mean there's not good idea. Yeah. Yeah these guys

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They are they are really doing a great job now

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So that's the end of what we're gonna cover on the 15th who cares we ought to move along just because I and I know

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I'm giving short shrift to a lot of stuff and there's there's little bits of nuance

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But most of it is really just talking about that state sovereignty stuff

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Yeah, it's most of what he's doing in this time and I need to get out of this like stretch of a couple days

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So we're barreling through

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And I look forward to further episodes that don't

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Have as much to do with this because I'm getting goddamn tired of hearing about it

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But I think I'm gonna hear a lot more about it. The states have declared their sovereignty

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Yes, and when we get to the 16th here

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February 16th, 2009

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Alex pivots the narrative a little bit so he starts the show not by talking about the states that are declaring their sovereignty

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States that aren't how many days did it take him to get there? It took a while, but at least I appreciate

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It's a difference, you know, but at the same time it's kind of scary

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He's gotta go sponsor says his proposal is more about states rights and about gun rights

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Well, it all ties together so another example of the state saying no no, no

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The states can also be tools of the feds and by extension

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tools of the globalist

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short

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Long pause here

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Because many states are not declaring sovereigns here defending the Republic

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They are actually selling out through menial ization to the United Nations and other international organizations private corporations

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They're helping the feds bring in tyranny and are willing accomplices losses aiding and abetting this high treason

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So if you if you if you parse that out what he's getting at is that the states that aren't doing these

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House concurrent resolutions and as we know from living in the present which is the future of 2009 a lot of those didn't pass

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So they are failures in defending the Republic in what way could a state declaring sovereignty

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Be considered defending the Republic. Oh see that that is an interesting. Well, it's because I

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Find me find me any explanation where that makes sense. I can explain it to you based on Alex's world

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All right

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He believes that the federal government doesn't really exist because it's been taken over by the globalists

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Right any point in history if he's not happy with who's in charge they

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Globalist, so the federal government doesn't really exist. So what he wants. Yes at this point in 2009 is very specifically secession

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But it's the secession where states assert their sovereignty

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Dissolve the federal government and then bring it back together in his weird patron version of a federal government

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Which would still?

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Necessarily involve some level of global involvement. It would still involve some some level of

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You know supremacy clauses in terms of you know, just murders illegal everywhere. It should be that's a you know

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I don't think it is yeah in America. Yeah, not in America. It's not well on paper

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You know, so like I his idea is this awesome thing where you break up the Union then bring it back together

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And it's original better form or whatever sure but it's the it's the same problem that a lot of these

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these idealists that have

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Idealistic utopian visions that are really regressive that really point back to a bygone time, right?

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They don't realize that in order to get to the starting point of their utopia

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You have to create hell and also the odds of you getting through that hell to reach your ideal place is

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Almost non-existent and along the way the people who are going to be hurt are the people who don't have anything

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No, it makes perfect sense, right? So you dissolve the federal government. I'm here you we have

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What what would you say 20 30 decades of complete and utter chaos as the world burns right but then

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See mm-hmm fixed it sure. Yeah, I don't I don't like I

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Understand this is what he thinks is going to help everything and get rid of these demon globalists that are in charge of everything

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right, but

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when I look at it from like just a logistical technical standpoint the idea of

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Like we've even talked about this before I don't understand why you you think you don't understand this you understand this

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I don't understand the gold thing you well, yeah, you may have just forgotten that we've talked about this. It is like

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You can make this sort of rhetorical argument about I want to dissolve the federal government in order to

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Have us all come back together under a better federal government. Well, what you're really advocating for is

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You don't want like you don't want the United States. Yeah, you want a different thing you want a thing where?

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You know can't they just say they want to own slaves. I mean they just do that

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It's not it's not that simple, but you know that is a part of it

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You know it is that mentality is a part of just say you guys are mad that they took slaves away

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We don't want you want to own black people or you don't ever want to see black

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Protections for people that sort of thing is dumb federal regulations that are ruining the free market

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Regulations are terrible so the reality of what you're gonna end up with is a bunch of states that aren't gonna be able to

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Agree on anything and best-case scenario you end up creating two different countries

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That you couldn't possibly create because the contiguous states that would be on the same side of it don't connect

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So what you would end up with is probably four different countries

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With two different ideologies. Yeah, it would be a mess and all you would do is

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Create a complete power imbalance in the world you would create a just a disastrous foreign policy state

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Oh, yeah, that'd be hilarious trying to negotiate treaties amongst random-ass states even it'd be fantastic

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2009 like forget about where we are in the present even 2009 it would create just the worst the worst possible

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State of affairs for the world bananas, but these are the sorts of things

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And I'm not even thinking about this on like a nuanced policy level these are just very basic concerns

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That come up to me when it's like okay, if that happens. What actually is gonna happen next and Alex

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I know that he's not that stupid and then I don't think he is that's why I think there's a con involved

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Right he has to act like he doesn't have those thoughts and realize that yeah, Texas is gonna become

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standalone country theocracy

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Where we can kick all the non-whites out or whatever you know he has to pretend. He doesn't realize

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Oh, this is most likely what's gonna happen. You know we can go back to gay bashing

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None of these dumb wheelchair ramps that I have to build it in for war studios for no those are infuriating

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I don't have to feel bad. I don't have any minorities working for me. I hate that

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I don't have to feel bad ever again ever again for being myself for being white Dan

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Why do people not like the white identity? That's the real issue here?

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I just want to be white and I never want to see anybody else

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Well, yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, so anyway yep

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We move along and we get something that is oh so familiar to us

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And it's been a little while since we've taken a road

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Down this taking a walk down this road, and this is gonna be long

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But I think it's necessary because let's have a positive

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Moment with Alex before he does some fucking horrible shit on this episode. God damn it

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Down in Mexico nobody heard

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But that's the way it goes

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How many times does he do this?

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Out of kindness I suppose

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Out of kind sighs he's one of those guys who only knows like four words of every verse

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Like right now if he's trying to sing along

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Like that and the down south where you got

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The red to go ain't nobody knows there ain't nobody

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Do we need a new internet as they introduce the end of the lab to the slaves

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Because they're nearing completion of internet, too. We'll cover it when the song is done

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It's hard to play a little bit of this song and not let a Merle Haggard have the have the end here, that's fair

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I don't know whose voice. I like better Merle Haggard or Waylon Jennings

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Boys tell how far Joe fell and left his living cheap hotel

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There's Cleveland, so the story sounds like a

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Love it. I don't need your prayers. It's true. Stay with you. He only did what he had to really listening to this now. He's grown

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Oh, all right, we are back live

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Remember they announced the FEMA camps

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After

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They've already built them already prepared the police and military. Okay out of can is that

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So we're back live three minutes into the punch oh and left I

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Love it

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First of all, I just love that song

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But I always forget like in that song Merle Haggard sounds like if they made a Muppet of Boz Skaggs

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Yeah, just like a jazzy Muppet

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I

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Always love the way I love he does that. Yeah, like that. Oh, that's good stuff

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Man in back in Missouri when you go to karaoke

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You could not go through the night without at least three people singing goddamn pacho and left

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Yeah, it doesn't surprise man. You don't call me by my name while they were singing it

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Did anybody say like and by the way, they have weaponized dogs?

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We'll talk about that after the end of this song

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I have like Vietnam flashback level sort of visceral reactions whenever I made hasn't happened much since I left, Missouri

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But if I hear that song I hang around as long as you will let me the whole crowd goes

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No, I couldn't do that I just remember being in these fucking these karaoke bars on the fringe of town

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A bunch of hillbillies. I can't do call-and-response

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Karaoke can't do call-and-response. I'm not talking down on I'm not talking down on the good folks of the the Roadhouse karaoke bars

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I used to go to a lot of great a lot of great country folk, but a lot of nights drinking slow gin too late

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Too late out at Peppers and scuba Steve's. All right. Anyway, let's move

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I needed to do that because first of all, I love the song

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But secondly because I I know that we've listened to Alex doing his weird DJ thing a couple times

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But I don't think we've ever heard him like give it a story like they're gonna kill the internet

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Yeah, talk about it when this

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I know that's beautiful. That moment is pretty great. And also we need that

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Because we are about to get into like Alex being a monster. Okay, like an absolute monster

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um out of kindness I suppose

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So a caller calls in he takes calls for most of the beginning of the 16th

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Sure, and this caller is telling him that he woke up. Thanks to some

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info wars and Luke Rudowski videos some conspiracy type type videos and

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then

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I like says something to this guy that I think no one should ever ever say to someone like

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Put your mic down. You're gonna scream at this but like on the other end. I'll explain it more in depth what I mean

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Real quick just because it was a little muddy

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He said I try and tell the close people to me and they think I'm crazy talking about the things he's learned from info wars

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That's right questioning the government is cultic trust them the pension funds aren't being robbed

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Foreign banks aren't taking you know newsweek isn't calling for world government run by the banks

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They are but if you read newsweek and read it to them, it doesn't exist because they like being schmucks

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They like being slaves. They like they've been taught it's cute and fashionable to be an idiot

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Yeah, it's like the matrix when they tell you try to wake somebody up too late. They do what they can to protect the matrix

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I told all the evidence and everything and they still denied they do the double speak

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Well, you need to not worry about those particular people

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Uh, let me guess you're trying to wake up your friends and family

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Yeah

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They don't they don't respect you sir. They don't respect you. You'll have better luck with people that don't know you

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that's

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the next level of

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Incredibly irresponsible as a thing to say to somebody

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That to me is like

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You know, he's saying that my family says I'm in a cult and then he goes to the leader of said cult who says

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Yourself from your family now granted at least I mean

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I'm not I'm still saying that Alex's behavior is the most out of line here, but at least he is still saying like

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Not like isolate yourself from them. Although that is imply

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Yeah, he's saying hey use your craziness on strangers

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Like maybe they'll listen to you. But you there's a way to say that without saying your family and friends don't respect you on

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the other hand if

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I had a family member who started telling me about info wars. I

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Would stop respecting them. I think it's possible to respect them and not respect that part of them

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Hmm, I think that there's a there's still familial love

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They probably exist there and what Alex is doing is trying to shut that down. Well, yeah

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He's trying to make it like your family is actually your enemy

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Well, if you don't if you what you don't realize don't you know what you don't realize is they already don't like you

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Yeah, they don't respect you. They never will. You know who does info wars. You got to come on

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This is a family start talking about start talking to strangers

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Maybe you'll find some people who are into info wars and then you've got a new family

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You can make a cell one. Don't you want a new family one? That's really into hating globalist

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Come on, that old family. What is it? What do they want? What do they want? Healthcare?

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Come on, get over to info wars and and I should be super clear about this what the guy is talking about is not

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You know, I just told them I don't trust the government and they are mad at me

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Yeah, because that's what Alex has to present as like. Oh, yeah, that's that's what I'm responding to show and I like if

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anybody

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Within the sound of my voice if our show and liking it has hurt you in any way

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Let's say you know you became so into it. It ruined a relationship

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Stop listening. Yeah, that would be if anybody ever came to me with like hey, I like your show too much people think I'm crazy

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I would say I appreciate that. I'm glad you like the show, but it's not worth it

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You have a life repair your relationship try and get her back. Tell her that you're sorry

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Tell her that you know what, even though she is an info warrior. You can still love her. That's what you got to do

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It's about what's inside now now, I think that's the ultimate, you know, they used to say

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What's it that one fucking?

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Democratic strategists had a Republican wife and how did they make it work a Democrat and a Republican?

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Imagine if we had a policy walk and an info warrior relationship, dude, that would be

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Ridiculous and if that does exist out there, I'm ordained I can yeah

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Gotta come do that. Oh, you'd be very clear which side was the bride and which was the groom

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You know, you could just look at the clothing and how many Hillary for Clinton Clinton for president shirts

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But let me tell you something. We would still play the highwayman at this absolutely. Absolutely first dance

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Silver stallion doesn't matter. What doesn't matter what side you're on. Everybody loves the highwayman. Absolutely. It's good and unifying

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So that was really terrible. I heard that and I was like Alex Alex

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You need you need to know what you're saying to me. Well, you can't he said it twice to him

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They don't respect you that's fucked up. He's a cult leader. That's that's so like

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I mean, you know, I agree with you, but if you want to be like really generous to him, that's at least

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so

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Irresponsible like if it's not intentional to drive a wedge between his listeners and their family

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It's so irresponsible to to a level that like you shouldn't be you shouldn't be on air

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You're saying stuff like that. You should not be on it is borderline. You're listening you call into a radio show

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Acting you're you're really really depressed you're talking to this radio host and the radio host is all of a sudden like well

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You know what? Maybe people don't like you and suicide is an option sure like that is that is the level of irresponsibility

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It's not as extreme as that but it is the same flavor

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Yeah, and it's the same sort of thing that people who have been a part of Stefan mala news cult

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You know, he doesn't like to call it that but that's cult leaders rarely do but that's the same sort of thing

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He would encourage in his listeners that defuing

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Yeah

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Getting abusive people out of your life and then defining abusive people as those who don't agree with my philosophy

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They're suppressive persons exactly

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Hey, so you see that sort of thing coming out here in Alex and it doesn't happen all the time

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but there's enough instances of things like that that you're like you

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Alex stop this stop this. Yeah, that's that's really unacceptable. It's here

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So let's get that now that we've gotten that terrible thing out of the way. Let's get that out of our mouth

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with this

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Oh, no, it's he's bounding down loaded up and dragon

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We gonna do what they say can't be done we're gonna bring down the new

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Keep your foot hard on the pedal

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Oh

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Government is murdering your children. We're gonna talk about that

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All this candy all this crud food

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In the school lunch program only shit

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He just said that and the children eat the food then they crash from it

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Then they're depressed and then they put him on Ritalin Prozac and a bunch of other things

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So that fun didn't last long now now doesn't listen to the entire eastbound and down

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But we did this this episode is fucking full of him singing

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I didn't include the last one, but he does also sing along with the the unknown stuntman. Oh

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That's nice ridiculous. That's nice. So at the end there

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He's getting into what's gonna take up the next couple of clips

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And that is his idea that they're putting coke and candy into the school food programs

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Right in order to get your kids all jittery hopped up on the and they get them on pills exactly

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Which I think flies counter to most of Michelle Obama's initiatives that you put for the healthy school

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I know what's healthier than coke and who you're gonna trust someone who gets a doggy bag

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doggy bag

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I

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Put a little too much

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Yeah, you're right. So that is like, all right Alex if you want to start down that path

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You're getting into what I would call

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slightly dangerous territory

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Because you're not a doctor

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But you know

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I understand there's a lot of conspiracies out there and this is where you want to spend a little bit of time on your show

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Have that let's see where he takes it. What happened is

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They gave you sugar. They gave you caffeine. They gave you all of this you bounced off the walls

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They said you had anxiety problems

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And you know people even though they're eating healthy if they don't have a lot of physical action if they're not playing sports

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If they're not running around the playground at least a few hours a day. They get antsy. They have anxiety

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I mean, it's normal when you're 12 years old and you ask that

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Girl in your class, you know them meet you at the movies

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Or at the mall to get butterflies to have anxiety or when the bully

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You know after school you're walking home, and he comes over and starts shoving you and pushing you you have anxiety

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That is your power. That is your engine. That is your soul. That's your mind your

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your glands giving you the real drugs that are in your body that you're meant to have and

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You're meant to work through those things and learn to deal with anxiety and learn to use it

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So he's starting off his salvo this first salvo and that is that he's

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Mis-equating normal human stresses with people who have chemical imbalances and you know psychological

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issues, I don't want to call it problems or anything like that, but you know people who have

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Theory

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Okay, he is a Sith Lord. Mmm. All right, because as we know fear

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Anxiety right leads to anger. Mm-hmm anger leads to hate right now

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You have to learn to use that eight that is how you go to the dark side

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The the Jedi the whole point is to fucking get past that and to live beyond it not to

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Use it that is exactly what a Sith Lord would say. I have opened and shut that case Jordan a solve cases

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Fair enough

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I would say that all he ends up talking about like all that

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I that fuel is like he just goes on to say like I work 18 hours a day

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Like I don't know if you want to be like I'm so anxious. I'm a workaholic. Yeah, great

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That's a good go go be with your young kids. You're trying to give to Bob Chapman, you know, I he's he's

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Obviously conning although I think he does believe in the the I think this part

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He actually does believe like the they give you like Ritalin is evil like all all of these

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You know vaccines are evil and all that stuff. I think he believes that yeah, he's not conning people on that

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I'm willing to believe most of it. He's a he's working with con people though with general stubblebine. Yeah for sure and his wife

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Dr. Leto but I do I do think he's he's genuinely against any kind of prescription type thing, right? Oh

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well, I mean

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No in terms of his con. He's not a Christian scientist. Well, he's he's sure close to it. Yeah, but

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You wouldn't you probably wouldn't say this about like if he threw out his back and he needed opiates

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It was like right, you know, well, none of these guys when when they need it

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they will do it, but they're just shouldn't they're just concerned with like psychiatric medication because I think

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Rightfully, they've recognized that a lot of the people who like fall for their cons happen to be people who have psychological

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Conditions right and it's a good way to keep people in your tent to keep them unmedicated

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Right because when they're unmedicated they're more likely to have manic episodes

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paranoia, yeah, those sorts of things they're more likely to isolate themselves from their family like he advocated that other caller who there's all

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sorts of ways that you can get them to be more in your camp and I don't think that that is

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Coincidence. No, no, that is intentional. Well whether or not it is a

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Front of the brain active process where he's like I need my audience to not get healthier because if they get healthier

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They'll leave me or if it's just something that he subconsciously understands. And so he's made that a part of his

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worldview or third possibility, it's just a really easy way for him to

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Come up with a wide-scale thing that he is blaming the globalists for, you know

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There's another aspect to it where you just consequences be damned. I don't really give a shit

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Well, and at the same time it well, he's not Hawking products at this point though

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So he's not right now. He's not replacing

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No, like some of his like answers are okay cuz in the in the present, of course

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He's gonna say don't take medication because super male vitality him say that less

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Oh, yeah in the future really now granted. I I don't know

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I I don't think I I don't associate this level of it with the present day

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I'm hesitant to put it up on our board as a major difference between the past and the present though

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It would serve as a giant difference because you know

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Him being alright with pharmacology and stuff like that in the present would be crazy. It would be strange

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I think that he would never go as far as he ends up going on this episode in the present. I would say that okay

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Strap it in Jordan

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Because you're only alive once so son

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Put your foot down on the pedal never mind them brakes because we got a run to make now

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I'm gonna be very clear here with you and we've had medical doctors on you do not want to go off those drugs called turkey

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And when you try to get smaller pills, you know smaller increments of the drug

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They're gonna say why why do you want to go off this? Who told you that you want it?

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I'm not gonna practice medicine here. I'm gonna tell you to go research what medical doctors have said

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You need to titrate the dose downwards

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You need to bring it down over ads where I'd say a two-month period and I would also have a regimen

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of not watching as much TV or playing video games getting healthy at the same time and

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Exercising and going out and looking at the stars at night

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Okay, and at the same time what helped people pull themselves up

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Is you need to volunteer at local soup kitchens and see people?

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Who are starved starving or people that are drunks are on drugs and see people with diarrhea running down their legs that will raise

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Your soul by helping helping them and it'll let you know how blessed you are and how good you've got it

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And then you won't be depressed because by helping others you are fulfilled

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So

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We need to prop up the capitalist system

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thereby creating a lower class of drunks and

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and people with diarrhea running down their legs who then you purely for you to

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Help and feel better about yourself because you have gone and help

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But my Alex when's the last time you went to the soup kitchen you ding-dong also like I

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Save for the part where he's legit saying people should slowly get off their meds. That's good advice

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Save for that part the rest of it is okay

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Do you like the hippie-dippie wishy-washy stuff about eat better exercise look at the stars look at the stars

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I don't hate that is advice, but I do hate the idea of Alex Jones well

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I mean at the same time you know if a doctor was telling you don't stop taking this you have to lessen the dose

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If you're in the care of a doctor, and they're saying that

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Cool Alex Jones saying that very different thing. He doesn't know anything about who's listening

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He doesn't know anything about the caller that he's talking to he doesn't know anything about the caller who he just told their family

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He doesn't respect them

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He doesn't know anything about these people, and he is not like he's not flippantly saying this

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He's saying that doctors have said that what you got to do is this now

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I'm not saying this as a doctor

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But what you got to do is you got to take less and less and if you go in and tell your doctor that you

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Want to take less and less they'll get suspicious of you

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So don't tell your doctor because they're gonna get all like who told you to do that

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Yeah, and then when you say Alex Jones, they're gonna be like you're fucking stupid stop it well

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He's creating paranoia about the people who are the only people in a position to help these people

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The only people who are in a position to understand exactly what they're going through now

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I'm not saying that all

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Psychiatrists are good because Lord knows I've known a lot in the past that have been real ding-dongs and real takes a while

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Yeah, I went through I went through five

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Yeah, there was a lot of people who were just like I'm gonna prescribe this get out of here

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Yeah, but if you do your damn work

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You can find somebody and I know that not everybody can and I feel fucking terrible say I do work

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Right as if everybody has the access to that right?

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You can find something Reagan you could get you but you can find somebody who will

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treat you

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Appropriately and you can go through find the medication that works for you

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They'll listen to you about your side effects the listen to that stuff and you'll be able to find what you need in order to

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Live healthily because that's the goal. It's not to create a zombie horde or whatever

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Yeah, so Alex creating this fear of doctors in people and saying like these medication

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all they're gonna do is fuck you up and all this stuff is

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It's incredibly dangerous

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And I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that because I think all meds are healthy or anything like that

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I don't necessarily think that I think there's a lot of over prescription

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We've talked about that in the past a hundred times, but it is so essential that Alex knows nothing about what he's saying

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He know and take the pharmacology out of it. Take that in experience out of it. I'm most interested

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I've already said this but it needs to be fucking said again. He has no idea what these people are going through

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He has no idea. He's being so irresponsible. This is dangerous. This could get people killed

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This I'm sure it has well, I don't know it would be very

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Capricious of us to assume that can't can't assume it

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But if he has a large enough audience and in a large enough number of them follow this advice

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It stands to reason that at least some of them have died because of it, right

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But all we nor have killed because of it. All we know is that he said this thing. Yeah can't without

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Extensive research and maybe getting lucky enough to find some local news story

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We can't say with any certainty that anyone actually followed this advice

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We can't necessarily say that it actually did cause damage, but it fucking has so much potential

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But you also have the circumstantial evidence of some of his listeners fucking showing up at a pizza place

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Yeah, you know like there's this is this is not like but that wasn't

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Hypothetical damaging this is real damaging. This is something that has absolutely

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Absolutely fucked up somebody's life. I mean because of his irresponsible behavior if you take Alex saying it out of it people

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Outside of the care of a doctor going off medication. Yeah is a very large cause of suicide. Yeah. It's a very large cause of

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Self-destructive

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Behaviors, it's it's incredibly dangerous

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so we all we can say with absolute certainty is Alex is

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Advocating something that he has no business advocating for and he has no idea who he's giving this advice to and what they might

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Do if they get this bad advice, this is so fucking scary to me. I hear this sort of thing. I'm like I did hi

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Like I understand having conspiracies about the medical world go for it. Hey, hey

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Uh companies that make drugs are evil. They're like the opioid crisis is pushed upon people by

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Companies who make those drugs. Is that like it's a manufactured? Yeah, not enough for you, right?

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We're see theories. That's a great way to go run with that one. Yeah fucking go could help. Yeah, right

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Yeah, whatever. What did it team up? Let's do let's do the enemy of my enemy is my friend you hate doctors and all that shit

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Let's go for the source

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But they can't because they are the right wing is propped up by a lot of that might exactly pharmacology

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Yeah, big pharma money, but you can't trust the doctors who prescribe it

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You can absolutely trust the kind and benevolent corporations that make it absolutely

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But those doctors who prescribe it you got to go off it and don't tell anyone if he wasn't in prison

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I'm sure Alex would have Martin Shkreli on right now, you know, probably like I

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Did yeah, there's no through line and this is gonna get worse before it gets better. Um, but here in this next clip Alex

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Let me go even further

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Yeah, I just want to thank you for informing me on that and I've learned in the last two weeks

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I did hear you say one comment in passing to one of your guests

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It was that the SSRI eat holes in the brain did actually eat actual hole

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Well, I mean, what do you think it is when brain cells die?

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What do you think it is when toxins go in the mean?

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That's why you get senile the brain starts dying at age 30 and start losing over a million brain cells a day

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Not true. And yes, they are highly I have had brain surgeons urologists on who have said it attacks and kills brain cells

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bad ones

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Certainly wasn't really

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Now now sir, sir, sir

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I I guess you see a psychologist to continue

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The Alex don't know what doctors are this is not gonna psychologists can't prescribe drugs. Nope

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Them giving you the drugs

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Yes

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Okay

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I've actually tried to discuss a little bit about the New World Order with him. He says it doesn't exist you're mentally ill

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Yes. Yes, and that's why I knew that basically I do not listen to these people anymore

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And if you really want to see see this is about their not all psychologists, but most of them this is about

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They're a priest class

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This is about their power trip over you and you could bring in the Wall Street Journal the Associated Press Reuters

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You could bring them the you know, the Financial Times of London saying world government's being shut up

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He will then probably try to have you committed because that that that is a threat. How dare you say I'm wrong

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It doesn't exist

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So James III I wouldn't act all freaked out with him. I wouldn't get into any big rigmarole to say

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Oh, I'm changing psychologist and then I would get out of there and then I would just decide you're good

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You don't have problems. You're God's beautiful beautiful creature and find out a regimen to get off the drug. So

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There's no words for how irresponsible that is, you know

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That should be again, it should be I don't know if that's illegal how many fuck it should be how many other fucking peddlers of

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This bullshit are there that this this con is is a tale as old as time

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Well, it's like a guy we listen to like what it's Gwyneth Paltrow does this bullshit like

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All of these people who have their alternative medicines can go right the fuck off like that's that's every

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fucking oh

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What you need is ginkgo biloba. It's natural. It's it's all of that bullshit. It's it's

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Jarring to hear it broadcast especially by this guy. Yeah, it's

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Really really jarring especially when he's talking to somebody who like clearly needs it

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Well also, I mean if he's talking to this therapist

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If it's a psychologist, they can't prescribe but if he's talking to a psychiatrist and he's saying stuff about the New World Order and stuff

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like that and the psychiatrist responds poorly then yeah, you should see a new psychiatrist if that's what he wants because

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Mental health services are at your direction

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You know what? I mean? Like if you you don't like what's going on or you feel bullied by your doctor

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You should talk to them about that. And if they respond poorly, they're a bad doctor. There are other doctors

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It's not a good cause for Alex to be like they're a priest class

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Maybe not all of them, but they're a priest class and they're just threatened by you knowing the truth

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They're gonna get you committed if you say anything else like that sort of thing

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Oh, all it does is feed into the paranoia. All it does is feed into

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Whatever negative impulses other listeners have other listeners who have untreated

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Conditions that they might need help with they hear this sort of thing and they're like, thank god

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I don't need to go all these doctors are just gonna fucking manipulate me

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And if I tell them what I really feel they're gonna put me in a box

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How could you trust any doctor if part of your part of your contract with that doctor is if?

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You say something like there's the New World Order. He's going to commit you right which is like that's anyway, right?

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Well, I mean it's illegal

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Unless unless you are an imminent danger of yourself the one cuz they're yeah

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There we go, then you're you're dead you're danger to yourself and others

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Yeah, this is this is and even then there's a high bar of actually committing somebody without a family member

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Present. Yeah, you need someone else to sign off on. Yeah, I think you actually even need like to get someone committed without their like

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Involvement you need more than one doctor. Yeah, I believe I shouldn't say that because I don't really know but I

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military tribunal, you know what I'm going off of what I think this is a story I read about Britney Spears, okay

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All right. All right, that makes sense. Maybe I'm not the expert. There you go. Thank you. I'm not giving anybody advice

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No, I'm saying that what Alex is saying is

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like we've heard

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Dangerous from him and I'm not just talking about when Milo came on to promote his book. Yeah

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We've heard dangerous stuff and there's definitely other things that he says that are incredibly dangerous

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The anti-vax stuff is very dangerous the the the worldview that he espouses as a whole is very dangerous

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But this specifically and I don't know I I feel like we haven't encountered something

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This flavor in our in our time doing this show

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I I feel bad if we have and responding this aggressively to it

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Because I feel like I feel like this is almost a new low. I don't know. I'm trying to think about I know

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I know he's told people in the but I know well, I know we've heard in the past

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I don't trust doctors. I don't know if we've heard him say actually get off your get off your meds and don't tell anyone

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Right, you're just just take it smaller doses over time and never tell anybody cuz they'll have you committed. Yeah

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Yeah, so then he goes on he has another caller who calls in and

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Let's see if he he gets back to the topic of

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Psychologists again. It's not who he's talking about, but he doesn't know the distinction

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And more irresponsible shit comes out of his mouth

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Um, I had been on you know

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I was a lot which the generic is circling for well quite a few years and I finally want to come off of it

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It's just you know, just after hearing what the doctors say and they did say exactly what you described

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Like why do you want to lessen your dosage? I mean you could take the build-in halves, you know

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And I was like, well, I want to get off it. How do I do it?

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They said well, you gotta wean yourself off you gotta you know, take a half pill for two weeks

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It takes about four weeks both ways, you know to go on the pill or go off it and a lot of the

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enemy and those are psychologists I

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Talked to neurologists and medical doctors took it and they say too much

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But I'm not gonna give medical advice. I'm saying I would come off of it

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This is what the experts say

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But do not believe me go check it out for yourself and read about it on infowars.com the first planet calm

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That's such a car. I'm not a doctor. I am just telling you to do this

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It's so cowardly at the end after after spouting this sort of thing to be like I'm not saying do it look at up yourself

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Okay, boy dodged a lawsuit, right?

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Boy terrible just unbelievably awful

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And so that's such a bummer. That's such a bummer. Why I can't

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Yeah, I mean there's no there's no bottom I know there's no bottom we have to we have to accept that there's no bottom

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It's just it's just so

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It's so personal like to think of how I would probably be dead if I

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Took his advice. Yep, like I would I would almost certainly have 100%

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Yeah, like to see how it's changed my life and it took a lot of I went to a bunch of different psychiatrists

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I I tried a bunch of different stuff and if I hadn't done that if I had quit or if I had just been like

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Well, I've got this because I'm God's perfect creature. I looked at the stars. Yeah, it was cool

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I I mean, that's that's so fucking disheartening

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And all the fucking people hmm all the fucking people who are not helped who won't get help

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because of assholes like this because of people who distrust

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I know doctors don't know what they're talking about

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They're a priest class and it's it's just this like fetish ization of ignorance

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Yep

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as though if you don't it's almost like what he'd really rather say is I

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wish you had never heard of doctors that way you could be proud and and

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Confidence and confident in your fucking stupid behavior, right and it's it's it's infuriating because

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Regardless of what you think about doctors at

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heart part of our

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Belief system has to be built around if you spend your entire life

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learning about this shit if you do this if you

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Continue to learn about this shit if you keep doing this as a doctor you should be trustworthy

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You'd hope that's the whole point. That's the whole point of having doctors in the first place now

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Half of them suck or whatever. I don't I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. That's part of our

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Our commitment to actually getting better as a society is it look doctors used to bleed people

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but we still believed them at the time because they were fucking trying to move the

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Society along and through that they did, you know exactly by that failure

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Yeah, great, maybe took longer than it needed to be. I mean it took it took way too long for assholes to

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Realize that you needed to wash your hands when going from an autopsy to giving birth. Sure and

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We're back there because people don't wash their hands anymore. It's fucking insane. Well, yeah, I don't know

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I don't know what else to say about it that I haven't already said I think this is one of the more disgusting things

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I've heard from him and it's a tough list, you know, that's a tough list

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But this one is real bad

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so

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We have a couple more clips where we just get sort of the the rest of

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What I want to talk about on this episode

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You've second half of eastbound and now I wish no really I should have taken the clip of the unknown stuntman

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So we get that out of it get all this wash it out of it out of it nice

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Instead we get a caller who calls in and he has a suggestion because you know

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the

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info warriors out there

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They don't know how to recognize each other in public. So this kid's got an idea. Oh, no, John and Colorado. Go ahead

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Alex I salute you and everything you stand for I want you to know that I'm one of the legions out here that has your

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Back pre read. I appreciate it. God bless you. I got your back. Well, thank you

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Originally, I was going to talk about spirituality in general and specifically fear

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But I had an idea that I thought was important people are wondering Heather. This is absolutely written down. You're you're a hundred

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, and it makes me wonder what were you gonna talk about with spirituality?

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Well fear leads to anger it could be that shit

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Yeah

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They're gonna recognize their fellow awakened patriots both now and in the incoming weeks which are likely to get a little crazy

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I realized we need a sign or a symbol to call our own. So here it is picture in your mind the peace symbol

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Now flip it upside down. What do you see?

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You see a Teutonic rune of life

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Okay. All right. Well, I see a victory sign. I see a human with their arms raised in victory

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Well, that's why it's a lot. That's why it's a life sign. The only problem is that's been adopted by the white supremacist. Oh, okay. Well, I didn't know that. The tragic irony of this call. The shocking highs and the lowest of lows. It's all in the same call.

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He planned this out. He'd written this down. He's like I've got the idea to end all ideas. Upside down peace sign. Oh

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White supremacist. Damn it! Alex is like I already have a bunch of those

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Yeah, I have a lot of shirts with upside down peace sign. Got a lot of buttons

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Yeah

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Although that's that's most likely where he gleaned like he osmosis the idea from like this guy is probably

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Well aware of the white supremacist community. I don't think so. Based on this caller's reaction. I think he was like oh

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Shit, well, I thought it looked good. Yeah, I think that's the sense I got from him

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I think that was totally new information and Alex is like yeah fucking love to use that. It's just too fucking obvious kid

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Go back to the drawing board give me a couple of lightning bolts or something

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Oh god damn it how about looks good the way it's been adopted by the Nazis, how about a

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Black star on a red background. It's been adopted. Mmm, so

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About the next half hour of this show really great if you just described the Star of David

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I didn't imagine a triangle. All right. Now put another triangle on top of it, but upside down and

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That's a Teutonic room

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How about we use two lines

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One longer than the other and the other bisecting the other but but perpendicularly and a little bit higher. That's a cross

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Yeah, damn it. So a little bit later. I could do 10 million variations of this thing. I know you could

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I love this bit. So a little bit later in the show Alex has an interview with a guy named JT Coyote

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Alright big fan of his well, you won't be

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We're not gonna listen to any of it because it's just it's kind of rambling and halfway through the interview

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I realized that he's the moderator for prison planet message boards what and stuff like that

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But they kind of are burying the lead on that a little bit. Yeah, he's just one of our random callers

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He's a new character. I think we'll hear from him again in the future and listening to him

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Is one of the reasons that I believe that this states

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Asserting their sovereignty is going to become a much bigger deal

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It's gonna fold into much bigger narratives as we go and they only mentioned this in passing a little bit

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that's why I didn't get a clip of it, but

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the reason

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That JT Coyote is on the show is because he was an aide to someone in the Colorado

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legislature

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Way back in the 90s

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Okay

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When he said that they were doing the same thing to try and assert their sovereignty sure and then you know

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What happened Columbine?

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Feds false-flagged Columbine in order to get federal control back in so this that is his

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Well, Alex is that in the past. He's this isn't new. This isn't new stuff. I've heard him say that before

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I knew he false-flagged Columbine. I didn't know so the federal government could supersede

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Sovereignty plans that Colorado had he said that before in the past. Absolutely

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Okay

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So then he gets into like Ruby Ridge gets into Waco and those were attempts to have the federal government usurp

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movements in order to

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assert states asserting sovereignty and this folds into a belief that

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Oklahoma was asserting their sovereignty and then wouldn't you know it the feds blew up the Murrah building?

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So it's this idea

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Alex is trying to implant the seed that all of these states that are asserting their sovereignty get ready

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There's about to be false flags and up

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So that is why he's been spending a week and a half talking about these states

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Okay

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It's less because he thinks that these concurrent House resolutions are gonna mean a damn thing

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But because it's a whole thing through he's holding the groundwork for what he expects will be

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False flag terrorism attacks that happen and just because he needs to really cast a wide net

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He's basically saying half the country. Yeah is are the states that are

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Yeah, why not pick 17?

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And that way sooner or later like at 21, okay where he's at now

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So 21 states sooner or later one of them gonna have a mass shooting gonna have something cuz we're America

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Yeah, so boom false flag

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I got another two weeks worth of material and then I got a year's worth of going back and using this as a waypoint

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Adding to my other shit, right?

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So JT coyote the interview notwithstanding that little kernel that we can just really discuss as like that's why he's doing this

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Yeah is really not great and I don't want to spend time listening to the fucking moderator of prison planet

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Be interviewed by the guy who owns the site. I don't feel like that's worthwhile

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Mmm, quite frankly. I have no idea if he actually was in the Colorado legislature or an aide to anybody

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And that is like sponsored content. I mean I

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He might call it out at some point. I think he might but I don't I don't give a shit

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It's just to me. It's more like alright your work buddies. Yeah, who gives a shit

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But he does spend about half an hour on this show

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Super pissed off because someone posted a video critical about him

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So we're gonna call let's listen to Alex that get into all

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Speaking of that. I want to go ahead and start playing this clip and then stop it and start it and analyze it. Sure

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I had the print out here in my stack. I wanted to stop it started a bunch

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Plug the name of the video

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John what's the name of that YouTube video with the Christian guy?

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That's a little vague they're not they're not the guy saying I'm lying about spider goats

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Well, uh

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Okay, they hidden driven on the new world order part one

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Okay, and it's a nice fella. He comes off as really nice and friendly and seem like a good person. He doesn't then

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Again, this isn't about me. I'm doing this because this is entirely about it. Yeah, this is an example of

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of the diversions and the distractions

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That we all end up going through

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When we have serious issues in front of us

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And this fellow says that I never talk about the spiritual nature of the New World Order

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That mark dice never talks about it. We mark dices book that I'm holding in my hand

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and the resistance manifesto

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Says that it's dealing with end times in the Antichrist

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Whoo, sounds like Jim Baker shit love tossing in that end times and times talking about

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Times never goes out of style never never goes always a good look on a guy. Yeah tossing some end times. So

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This video is a guy

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posting on myspace

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Even in 2009, come on, man. Well, I only know that because the audio is so bad

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It sounds like this guy's recording in a tin can and he also says myspace will only let me record for 10 minutes

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So I'm gonna make this brief

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So I have a plan for a new side yeah to never I want to be like I

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Want to just be put all my cards on the table this guy and his myspace video are ludicrous

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Alex talks about the spiritual nature of the New World Order all the fucking time. He talks about demons even in 2009

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We've heard him very clearly talk about Satan. Oh, yeah, it's it's not like that's something he doesn't touch

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Oh, yeah

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So the guy's like his criticism of Alex is invalid and Alex's response to it is also invalid

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Because he's only doing this so he doesn't have to deal with valid criticisms of himself

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He does this sort of thing to create like this straw man of these are the people who are attacking me

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Yeah, I always talk about the NWO being spiritual and being behind it. Look man. I do a show

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That's not a religious show

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I do a news show so I don't sit here all the time and talk about God flash forward to now and yes you do

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But like I get I get his response

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But at the same time I think that back then there probably were some people who are pointing out

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Hey every time Bob Chapman comes on your show you seem to bring Ted Anderson and you guys are doing a real clear

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vaudeville sales routine trying to pimp Ted's gold

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I imagine there's plenty of people who have valid criticisms about the content of his show

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Well, he would never want to talk about even mentioned one that he didn't want to talk about the guy who is saying that

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He's stupid for saying spider-goats. I think he does touch on that later. Oh, he does touch on that

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I mean he does he's he's talked spider goats plenty. No. No, I mean the YouTube video

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Oh, whenever he's he said who's that Christian guy who is right? Right, right, and he's like no, no

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No, not the one about her go not the one about the spider goats

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He's right, but I'm sure that even that is like some dumb dumb talking about how Alex is wrong about spider goats

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Like look even even the dumbest of the dumb should be able to be like, yeah, you're wrong about spider goats

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You can make up you can be right that Alex is wrong and still make a bad argument and therefore be wrong in the bigger

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Picture, that's true. And I think that's probably what spider goat guy is. Hmm, but I don't particularly I would like to know how wrong

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He was so Alex gets off. They're not spider goats. They're beetle goats. Oh shit

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Alex spends also what about the spider goat leadership? Oh, man

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That's very stuff. They have been locked into a non-stop battle of death with this the purest spider leadership

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Sure, they have spider leadership very racist toward the goat by spider goat

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Yeah, the spider goat leadership are they they're actually spiders that have attributes of goats

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Yeah, it's not it's not like the spider goats who have attributes of spiders, right?

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It's not like the the spider silk right infusion there

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It's it's spiders that can eat tin cans their arachnids without a home right because the goats hate them

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Spiders hate them. All they've got is each other. They climb up mountain crags and eat garbage

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That's all I know goats. Do I have no idea?

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When I was in Greece, I ran into a pack of goats. Oh man, were they eating garbage?

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Yeah, that is like a stereotype. I get that hashtag not all goats. But yes, all goats all goats

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love eating garbage

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Yeah, but they have to they have to wrap it in silk and the cocoon it and drink the blood of the garbage

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That's the spider. Yeah, that's the spider goat

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So Alex goes off on a really long self-defense tangent about this guy's myspace video and good now your fair play Alex

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You know, whatever. You're just not you're not dealing with real

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Criticisms, but then he's going out to break and listen to this

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We're gonna have to deconstruct this 45 second clip for maybe 10 minutes

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This is one of the most

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convoluted

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Intradicting narcissistic piles of garbage I've ever heard in my life. Alex can't we can't figure out where to land. Okay

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instead I'd say about half the people on websites and you I'm gonna start this over because what he's talking about before this is

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about how

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Everybody should be on the same page. We all should be fighting the kind of enemy. No

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He's saying that like, you know all of these

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Disparate communities that are all patriot in nature and Christian should all be on that

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We should all be unified as opposed to bickering with each other and then he gets this

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Instead I'd say about half the people on websites and YouTube and on these video things. They just sit around policing each other

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Or obsessing over it's just this group and we're gonna obsess on this group and we're gonna exaggerate the power of this group

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We're gonna blah blah blah win meanwhile, so

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Real quick. He's getting played up. The reason that he paused there was because he realized. Oh, that's all I do

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He's like, oh these people exaggerated like being focused on one group and exaggerating the power of that group. Oh shit

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That's what I do with the globalists. How do I finish this sentence?

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How do I finish the sentence when I cuz he's like the reality is that it's the group I talk about

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The exaggerated powers like all these people they think the Jews are on everything

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But no, it's my code for the truth is there they're the ones who run everything. He can't he can't finish the sentence, right?

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He can't do it. It's crazy. I love it

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Blah blah blah win meanwhile

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Meanwhile, the entire economy is being imploded the New World Order is coming into play and people are arguing and debating

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Over who's got the best info or who the best talk show host is or who's got the best website?

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And obviously I'm the big kahuna and all this so but most of them are just jealous and upset with me

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And I just feel sorry for him because this is too dangerous of a world to be stuck on jealousy folks out to break

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So he starts by critiquing these people who focus on and exaggerate one group has to bail in the middle of the sentence cuz he

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Realizes that's what he does then he's complaining about everybody being obsessed with who has the best information

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Who's the best website who has the best talk show host when clearly it's me

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They're all just jealous of me. What is going on? This is not a time for jealousy

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It's me. They're all just jealous of me. What is going on? This is not a time for jealousy

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That's so crazy

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50% of all these right-wing websites are just

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Criticizing each other and obsessing over all this stuff and they're trying to exaggerate the problem and blow it out of proportion

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Cuz I do it better than you and that's why I have the biggest website

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That's why I have the most followers

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That's why you're just jealous because I have created a bigger better enemy than you you created King Kong

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Motherfucker, I created Godzilla. I can grade it King Ghidorah

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it's

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Mwah like that to me is that's the kind of Alex Jones. I relish yeah, cuz that's okay

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You're a lunatic

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But you're like it's clear

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The narcissism is coming through the like sort of laughable elements of your character coming through and it's just so disappointing

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That like he is still the same person who tells people who he has no idea about that

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They got to get off their meds. Yeah, you know cuz if that was gone, it wasn't that kind of an asshole

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He could just be a blowhard. Yeah, and blowhards are kind of fun. Yeah, especially when they sing highwaymen. Yeah, but unfortunately

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It's not who that's not this guy is

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Mmm, so as much as we you know as much as you know like to talk about

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Like the difference between modern-day and past Alex Jones, you know, it doesn't really matter. He's a shithead all the time still there. Yep

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Jesus

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Hey

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Who cares?

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Yeah, that's just and not not who cares about like his rhetoric. It's like who cares about

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Creating a positive version of him. Yeah

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Yeah

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That is that'd be fun. If we got the chance like if we got if we got a do-over on Alex Jones like

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Say that there is a God and times happen right before

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And times happen we get raptured gets taken up God's like hey you guys got any way to fix this shit

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We just explain how to make Alex Jones better

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Just go back in time and then he would put us back for the end times and he'd be like nah you guys fucked up

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Yeah, that did not work that wait. That was it. That was your big plan seemed just to fix Alex Jones seemed

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I don't know why I listen

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I'm supposed to be all-knowing also

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Big fan of the show good stuff. I am I'm just a policy wonk. I can't afford to go up

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I love the project Camelot episodes. Sure. Sure. Thank you

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That's our new character cheapskate God

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Oh boy give unto Caesars what Caesars that's not God's he doesn't have the money to donate

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And we appreciate him listening. Yeah

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So that brings us the end of this patch of 2009

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I'm excited to move forward because I have not had a great time listening to the last like five episodes of this stuff

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I was stuck for a long time. Like I can't finish this episode. This is so boring

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I imagine he expected there to be a mass shooting or something like probably already sooner

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Yeah, I think that's why he's hammering on about it is because he's like, all right now no shit

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All right this time and I think that's when I described it as a holding pattern. Yeah at the top of the show

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I think that's why I think he's I think he

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Is a man without a third act

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So he's just doing the second act over and over and over and over again having each of these boring state reps on

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To talk about their state's identical bill

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But they're trying to push through and the the house resolution

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He's a kid who keeps pointing at the sky and saying rain and then when it finally does happen

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He's gonna be like see I told you I I think so

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I think that that's what we're seeing and I don't remember history as as minutely as some people do

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But I don't know if there's any large-scale attacks coming up. So he might be stuck in this holding pattern for quite a while

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It's it's America. There's a mass shooting but on the plus side

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We are now only 11 days away in 2009 from the big breakout of the tea party

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Yeah, so we're much closer to that and that might distract him or the big manufactured break out. Is that yeah

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Yeah, these two things might conflate they might somehow

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Dovetail into each other which is what I'm more suspicious of. Okay. I'm more suspicious that sent a terrorist attack

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Or big mass shooting probably doesn't happen in the next 10 days. Yeah of this show

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What I'm thinking is there isn't progress with the narrative these house resolutions that he starts to see them languish in committee

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Perhaps there's not a lot of action to it and that energy that he has for this gets folded into the tea party stuff

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Yeah, and he starts bringing all that together. Yeah, that might be I don't know

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I hate to predict things cuz I'm almost always wrong. Yeah, so we'll see

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Yeah, anyway, if you like the show you can get more at knowledge fight calm indeed

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Hey, if you've ever listened to a podcast, you know how they tell you to do stuff just do that stuff

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But for us, yeah, you know, right everybody everybody's it closed signs off with the same bullshit. You've heard a podcast

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You know the rules do the thing or be nice. Um, I don't know

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I'll take this one. I think it is your turn

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Although it is so gauche to do based on his behavior today Alex Jones go fuck yourself

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you