Transcript/134: Post-Tribulation Rapture?

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Yeah, uh, Dan, um, why do people listen to this show?

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I think it has to do, uh, something to do with my matinee idol good looks.

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That's true.

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And the fact that I know a lot about Alex Jones.

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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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And that combination is delightfully fun for people.

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Well, we let you buy drinks.

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I did.

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Uh, and this is the first time I've ever said, man, this water is garbage.

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Hey, come on!

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It's garbage water.

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Don't say that about my good friends over at Ice Mountain.

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Garbage water!

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See, I like-

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This tastes terrible!

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I like the Ice Mountain line of sparkling, uh, waters because they're very, there's a tartness to them.

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Right.

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There's no sweetness like a lot of these other fizzy waters.

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It's just a straight up water.

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Right.

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No, that's the problem.

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It's not straight up water.

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It's garbage water.

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It's European.

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And that's why I'm against it!

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And that's why you are, don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, we missed that one.

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Jordan, I've got a really fun show planned out for you here tonight for you and the listeners.

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Yes, you have, uh, not stopped bothering me with it pre-show.

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Good Lord.

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Which is defeating the entire purpose of the show for me to know anything about it.

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But I haven't told you anything.

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I've just been telling you that this is crazy.

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Annoying!

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It's been like you've been standing next to me, poking me like,

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can't wait to do this for you.

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Can't wait to show you this.

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Sometimes.

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This is going to be so good.

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Sometimes I stumble.

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It's like whenever I hadn't seen the movie Moana and you just would not let up about it.

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That never happened.

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I know.

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You saw it before me.

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Um, it's just sometimes the stars align in such a way that I know that something along

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the way here is going to blow your fucking mind.

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Okay.

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It's going to be nuts.

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Okay.

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And I'm just very excited to bring that to you.

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But first I'd like to say thank you to a couple of new donors here on the podcast.

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So first I'd like to say thank you to a new donor.

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Uh, thank you very much, April.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Congratulations.

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Hey, April, welcome aboard.

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And it's not April O'Neil from the Ninja Turtles.

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I wasn't going to make that joke.

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That was my impression of you.

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I was going to go with April Ludgate from Parks and Recreation, but fine.

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Fair enough.

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Fine.

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I also would like to give a shout out to Mike T.

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Thank you so much for joining up with the show.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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If you would like to welcome aboard Mike T or as I would call you April O'Neil from

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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Using a very elaborate pseudonym.

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If you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the support the show button and helping us keep this going.

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We appreciate everyone who donates so amazingly much.

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So much.

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It's absurd the level of support in donations and in interest and people reaching out to

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us, it makes this all so possible as opposed to you and I losing our minds talking about

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this dumb asshole in Texas.

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It's ridiculous that anybody listens.

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When we first started this, I think it was going to be like, oh, we'll get like 10 people.

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Something like that.

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Let's see what happens.

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You guys do that and not just that, but support us and you're fucking nice and you're smart.

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You teach us shit.

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It's crazy.

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It never happens.

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Yeah, it's nuts.

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So Jordan, today I wanted to check back in with Alex Jones post marathon.

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Of course.

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Because over the weekend he was lying about YouTube shutting down his channel.

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He was saying that his account had been frozen and YouTube told him that he was going to

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be shut down on Sunday.

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But he kept posting videos, which kind of flew in the face of the idea that he was frozen.

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And then Buzzfeed reached out to YouTube and asked if any of that was true.

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And they said, he's just making shit up.

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And they were like, no, no way.

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And they explained that that's not even how it works.

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And so Alex was just lying.

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And I realized that I realized that the reason why is that because he didn't make enough

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money at the marathon and he needs to really get people excited and try and get the fear

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back in them.

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Right.

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So I checked in and I looked at the show here on Monday as we were recording on Monday.

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And God, Owen Schroyer was hosting because Alex Jones had to go talk to a lawyer.

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Hmm. So he's in meetings with lawyers.

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So I'm like, I can't.

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There's nothing here.

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So I went back to Sunday's show.

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I was like, maybe Sunday will work.

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Maybe Sunday will be fun.

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I want to be in those meetings with his lawyers because they're just going to be like, for

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real, you did this shit.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how to help you.

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And Alex is just screaming.

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He's like, it's the chimeras that are keeping me down.

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And I want to be there.

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He could be like, the lawyer's like, I can try something, but you're screwed.

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And then Alex was like, whiskey?

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Yeah, that'll work.

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Yep.

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So I watched Sunday and it was really boring too.

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So I was like, God damn, there's nothing we can do.

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I guess I could go back to one of our donators donated on a time travel episode.

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Okay, cool.

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So I was like, I'm going to go back.

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They had requested their birthday, which was September 1st.

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And so I went back.

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Never forget.

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September 1st, 2012, 13 and 14.

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I'm sorry.

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13, 14 and 15 were all best of shows.

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Really?

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He has a habit of what is a best of show?

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Jesus.

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I got clip, clip packages.

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He's doing clip shows.

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Yeah, basically.

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How can you do a best of on a news show?

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It's nuts.

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So September 1st on the episodes that I had in front of me were all untenable.

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I was like, I can't, I can't do a fucking clip show.

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But one of the clip shows included his interview with Russell Brand.

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And so I'm like, here we go.

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Now you're going to find out where the fuck that came from.

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Here we go.

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So I listened to the Russell Brand interview and I'm like, we're going to go over

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Russell Brand.

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It's going to be great because he's a dumb ass new age guru or whatever.

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And it was just, it was just boring.

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It was a really, really boring interview.

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There's some comedy in the fact that like,

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Russell Brand is pushing for revolution.

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And when asked what his revolution, like the ideal outcome of it, he's like,

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Oh, an egalitarian socialist state.

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Alex is having a bone.

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He's like, everyone needs to wake up.

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That's right.

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Like, it's just nonsense.

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There's some comedy to that, but I realized it wasn't fucking worth it.

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No.

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So I started looking through.

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Also, is Russell Brand funny?

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I know that his bookie wook is a great literature.

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No, I don't know.

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All right.

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I have seen a couple of things from Russell Brand I've enjoyed in the past.

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I don't think he's great.

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I don't think he ranks with good standups, but he's not, he's not terrible, I guess.

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And here's the one thing I do want to say for all of like his overly scarfed,

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asshole-ish, uh, like, uh, I think they call it like a ponce.

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Well, I think the British press refers to him often as a champagne socialist,

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where it's like, uh, the people who live in Beverly Hills and are worth $15

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million talking about revolution.

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Right.

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They go to, you know, posh lifestyles and what have you, but wasn't he like born?

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It wasn't.

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He like raised a terrible life.

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Yeah.

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I was going to say it was like, it was like homeless.

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Like, what do you, what do you, what do you win?

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You lose.

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Everybody hates you.

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No, but that's the thing I want to say is that like for all of that stuff,

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that is valid criticism of him, certainly that he's very annoying, that shit.

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Yeah.

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Um, he's not somebody, if you look at his actual life and his actual career,

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he's not somebody who's just been all lip service.

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He's really active in like union fundraising and stuff like that.

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He's active in trying to help people through action and stuff like that.

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You can't take that away from him.

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And I won't.

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Right.

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And the fact that he grew up and was a horrible drug addict, uh, and then has

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been trying to, uh, lobby, uh, people to deal with drug addiction as a disease,

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uh, and, and trying to take that more seriously.

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I think there's a lot to respect there.

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Even if he did, I hate those champagne socialists doing all that stuff.

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Oh man.

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Even even more poor socialists who don't have a voice.

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That's who I'm interested in.

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Maybe the poor ones.

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Give me the poor ones who can't say anything and no one will listen to them.

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That's real socialism.

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Right.

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That's getting the job done.

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He does a lot to help people and isn't all talk, but he wrote a book called my bookie wook.

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Oh, well then now I'm, now I'm off.

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Now I'm off again.

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So anyway, that interview was all that union money back guys.

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Yeah.

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That interview was boring as hell.

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Um, and then I was like, I got to find another fucking celebrity interview.

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He's had a bunch.

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I got one of these.

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It's gotta be good.

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So then I listened to his interview with Jonathan Davis from corn.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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One, there's a guy in corn named Jonathan Davis.

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That's a lead singer.

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He also goes by his DJ name, Jay devil.

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This didn't come up in the interview.

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How did that not come up?

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Seems relevant to Alex.

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Yeah, that's, that's gotta be the only thing that comes out.

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I understand that your DJ alias is a satanic.

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Yes, I am the devil.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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That's a very quick asked and answered.

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It was a really boring interview because Jonathan Davis kept saying like,

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I don't really know much about politics and I don't want to sound stupid,

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but Obama's trying to be a dictator.

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All right.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And then the rest of it was Alex Jones just kind of sucking his dick because he's a,

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he's a star fucker.

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Yeah, he's a star fucker.

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He loves celebrities so much that in the beginning of the interview,

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this is the only clip I really regret not cutting was, uh, I've been a long,

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a long time fan of corn.

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I love corn.

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Let's do them all the time.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So now I imagine Alex just driving around in his Escalade listening to corn.

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Right.

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Right.

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Absolutely right.

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Something like got the life down the street, listening to a bullet with butterfly.

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No, that was, uh, that was fucking smashing.

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Dude, I got nothing.

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Uh, Alex, I don't know any corn references.

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Alex loves new metal.

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Uh, so I, I, I listened to that and I'm like, this is not usable either.

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Um, that was from 2013, which I would remind everyone is 13 years after corn

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had any chart success.

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Um, so then I was like, ah, what am I going to do?

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And I was scrolling around and I'm going to save this for another day because this is

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too weird and I couldn't unpack it and it was too long.

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Uh, and I didn't actually listen to the whole thing, but look for this in the future.

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Uh, back in 2001, Alex Jones had Noam Chomsky on the show.

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What?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Fuck yeah.

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Yeah.

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We're going to go over that in the future.

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That's going to be a long episode.

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I had no time to like deal with that appropriately.

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So I was like, I, I, I am like, all right, got to put Chomsky on the back burner.

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Uh, and he heard that all the time growing up.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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And so I found something that would work, something fitting.

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Uh, and that is a time that Alex Jones had a preacher on his show named Steven Anderson.

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Are you aware of Steven Anderson?

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No.

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He, uh, he runs a church that is described as, uh, something that makes the Westboro

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Baptist church look like Gandhi.

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That's an intense church then.

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Yeah.

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We'll get into some of the specifics about him, but, uh, I listened to their entire interview

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and, um, man, it's really all about just arguing about pre or post tribulation rapture.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All right.

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I've been, I've been wondering when we're going to get into some trap, uh, tribulation

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rapture, the specific timeline of it.

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Right.

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Pre tribulation raptor.

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That's back to Mark Richards.

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That's what, no, I was thinking that whenever we had in our last episode, raptor man calling,

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I was like, oh, that's rapture man.

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Of course.

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Do you think raptor man is actually friends with Mark Richards?

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No, but man raptor is.

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Yes, probably.

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Yeah.

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Um, so I have, I have done this strategically, uh, in terms of the clips that I have, we

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don't have a whole lot from that episode.

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Uh, because it's really boring, but you'll see what I'm, where you'll see where we're

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going.

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Okay.

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Here is a clip of Alex giving a little bit of an introduction to Steve Anderson.

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Uh, and then, uh, talking about a book, uh, that is a part of his foundational, uh, like

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the foundation of his philosophies.

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Okay.

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I'll explain on the other side of this, why Alex is stupid.

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I want to go back to pastor, uh, who's here in studio with us today and he's got the new,

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uh, well, he's part of the new film, pastor Anderson, let no man deceive you after the

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tribulation film.

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What is your take, uh, on this Carol Quigley passage and what the caller was raising?

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So real quick, um, the caller before this had brought up, uh, Carol Quigley's book,

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tragedy and hope.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and, uh, Alex, he ends up trying to read here in a minute, which is pretty funny, but,

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uh, on air on purpose, you can't do that.

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It's a disaster.

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It's going to be, it's going to be very embarrassing.

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Well, it's, it's all part of the same agenda.

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You know, in order to totally enslave people, you're going to have to take away their

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guns.

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You're going to have to take away their weapons.

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The Bible clearly says that the Antichrist is going to make war with the saints and overcome

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them.

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Well, how's he going to do that?

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Obviously he's going to put us in a, in a, in a, in a society where we have no freedom,

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where we're completely controlled, completely surveilled.

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We're not going to have any weapons.

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We're not going to be able to defend ourselves.

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And that's why the Bible tells us that Christians are going to be beheaded on mass because of

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the fact that the government's going to have the control to carry out.

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But a TV preacher told me that Scotty's on the enterprise.

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He's going to bend me up.

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It's about, it's about as, that's about as true as Star Trek is true.

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You know, I mean, I mean, the idea of the rapture taking place before the tribulation

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is about as biblical as, you know, uh, the Starship Enterprise.

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Um, so you could have come up with a different reference there.

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In my, in my research for this, you're going to go with Star Trek for both references.

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Come on, man.

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In my, uh, in my, uh, preparation for this episode, I found a sermon that this guy gave,

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uh, about, uh, and there will be no tribble at all.

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You're really close.

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It's all about Star Trek?

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No, it's about Star Wars.

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All right, well then I'm back on board.

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It was about Star Wars in relation to the Bible.

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Okay.

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It's like, you know, it's all, they always, they're always talking about going to the

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dark side and it's like, anger leads to, uh, you know, whatever.

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Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side.

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Right, exactly.

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And he's like, that's not how it is.

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That was that?

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Yeah.

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It's not.

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No, no, no, no.

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That guy Yoda, he doesn't know shit.

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Right.

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And that's about the point where I was like, all right, I'm going to move on to the next,

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next sermon.

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That's like, I don't want to spend an hour listening to this guy critically deconstruct

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the reality of, uh, of, uh, Star Wars.

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Uh, I do, uh, well, I'll send you the link.

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I want to know, I want to know how he feels about so many things.

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Okay.

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So in the biblical metaphor, right.

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Did Han shoot first?

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That's the first question that I want to know.

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Yeah, of course.

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Right.

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Absolutely.

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Now that is just like when King David killed his best friend with his wife.

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Yeah, King David shot first.

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Um, so here's the next clip, uh, where Alex begins to start reading.

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Um, and, uh, he gets into some real stupid shit.

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You'll see pretty quick.

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I want to go back to the caller, but if you just joined us, I'm going to read the passage

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from page 1200 that the caller was raising.

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When weapons are of the amateur type of the 1880s, as they were in Greece in the fifth

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century BC, they are widely possessed by citizens.

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Power is similarly dispersed.

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So dispersed power is everybody.

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This is like an elementary school situation.

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They want the abolition of civilian ownership of firearms quote, because it threatens a

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legitimate power monopoly of the state treaty on general, ratified and accepted for full

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attempted passage at the full UN assembly.

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Did he alert us to the fact that he was no longer quoted?

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I mean, this is their plan.

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They say, well, because they know people aren't reading what they're saying.

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And neither are you.

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Um, so we'll get back to Carol quickly.

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You're saying what she's not writing.

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He, but we'll get, uh, we'll get back to that in the second quickly as a man.

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Yeah.

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He's a gentleman.

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Um, but Alex there at the end was saying that the UN, uh, the 1990 or the, uh, 2001, uh,

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small arms, uh, uh, treaty that they made in the UN, uh, was about everybody.

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It was about shrinking arms.

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It was about disarming.

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Right.

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All the world.

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I just want to read to you here from, uh, uh, something that was put out, uh, by the

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UN about myths about the UN.

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Myth, this conference is being convened to draft a global treaty to ban ownership of

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firearms.

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Facts.

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The review conference is not about banning small arms or prohibiting people from owning

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legal weapons.

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The review conference will not be negotiating any treaty to prohibit citizens of any country

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from possessing firearms or to interfere with the legal trade in small arms or light weapons.

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The United Nations program of action on small arms does not prescribe or suggest any action

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against the legal trade manufacturer, possession or ownership of weapons.

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Each sovereign state determines its own laws and regulations for the manufacturer sale

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and possession of firearms by its citizens.

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The United Nations has no jurisdiction over such matters.

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Oh, really?

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The UN program of action is focused on the illicit trade in small arms, uh, weapons.

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The program was agreed.

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There is no illicit trade, Dan, no regulation, no regulation.

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There's no illegal bootlegging of weapons.

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Nope.

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That's, that's how it should be.

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The program was agreed to in 2001 by the 191 member states of the general assembly, including

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the parliament members of the security council.

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They committed to collecting and destroying illegal weapons, adopting and or improving

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national legislation that would help criminalize the illicit trade in small arms, regulating

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the activities of brokers and setting strict import and export controls.

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It's not about saying people can't have guns or trying to outlaw guns in any way.

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It is just a matter of, uh, slippery slope, legal, international gun running, slippery

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slope, Dan.

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First thing you know, you're coming for the illegal weapons and then you're coming for

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the illegal weapons.

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Obvious.

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That's not even a slope.

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That's a plateau.

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Yeah.

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Well, they're going to do it.

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Yeah.

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They're going to come for the illegal weapons and then they're going to take the other illegal

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weapons.

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So Alex also there was reading, uh, from Carol Quigley.

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Um, and he, he's editorializing like crazy.

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Uh, and I'll, I'll, I'll give you some context after we get to this next clip where, uh,

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he finishes up reading, uh, he reads like a hunt and peck typist.

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That's how he, it's scattershot.

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Yeah.

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He's missing words all over the place and then parenthetically adding stuff that just

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isn't in the text at all.

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It really makes it sound like Carol Quigley just wrote down like, and then of course we're

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going to go after everybody and kill them.

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And then, you know, now that we, now that we've taken all their guns, we're going to

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destabilize everything and kill everybody.

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None of that is in there.

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No, it's in there.

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He read it.

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I mean, they're like, we're going to enslave these people.

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We're going to cut their food off so we can sterilize whoever we want.

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Once we got them all on welfare, they'll all be social engineered.

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We can just give them shots to kill their butt.

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But we want to kill them over a couple of years.

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They don't know we killed them.

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That doesn't make sense.

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And the Africans don't want to run at the villages when the UN shows up.

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Let's continue.

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Other reasons for that.

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And again, let's show people from the actual book.

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If you guys can document cam in on here, I want to show people this right here, right

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here.

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When the weapons, thank you.

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When the weapons are of an amateur type as the 1880s, as they were in Greece in the fifth

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century BC, they're widely possessed by citizens.

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Power is similarly dispersed and no minority can compel the majority to yield to its will.

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Globalist foreign bankers editorialize with such an amateur weapons system.

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That's what he calls it.

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What in other conditions are not totally unfavorable.

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See that, see that saying, that's saying it's, it's, it's, it's a problem for the

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elite if people are armed, we are likely to find a majority rule.

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Oh, this is a big problem.

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And a relatively democratic political system.

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But on the contrary, when a period can be dominated by complex and expensive weapons

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that only a few persons can afford to possess robot armies, drones, or can learn to use.

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We have a situation where the minority who controls such specialist weapons can dominate

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the majority who lack them.

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And the minority is a eugenicist, Luciferian,

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more editorialized weapons.

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Just an idea.

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Is that an authority sooner or later, an authoritarian political system that reflects

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the inequity and control of weapons will be established at the present time that our system

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is to be little reason to doubt that the specialist weapons of the day will continue to dominate

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the military picture in the foreseeable future.

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And I'm gonna do a whole piece on this.

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He goes on to say how terrible it is that in the United States we have guns.

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That's right over here because they're not gonna be able to have their social engineer

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system because of the United States and the guns and England.

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Well, forget that.

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They got the guns in England.

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I'm not gonna spend all day on that.

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Pastor Anderson, another comment?

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Certainly not gonna spend all day on that.

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So what he's doing-

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Did he make any sense at all?

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No.

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So he's using a little-

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He just got excited whenever he heard, majority rule.

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So he's using a little passage from page 1200 in this Carol Quigley text.

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When weapons are of the amateur type of 1880, as they were in Greece in the 5th century

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BC, they're widely possessed by citizens.

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Power is similarly dispersed and no minority can compel the majority to yield to its will.

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With such an amateur weapon system, we are likely to find majority rule in a relatively

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democratic political system.

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But on the contrary, when a period can be dominated by complex and expensive weapons

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that only a few persons can afford to possess or can learn to use, we have a situation where

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the minority who control such specialist weapons can dominate the majority who lack them.

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So what this is actually talking about has nothing to do with taking people's guns or

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anything like that.

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Carol Quigley wrote this book in the mid 60s, and it has to do with Cold War status quo

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systems between the United States and the Soviet Union.

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Just on the page before this, on page 1199, he says, forecasting can be attempted only

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by extrapolating recent changes into the future.

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But this is risky business, since there is never any certainty that present directions

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will be maintained.

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And he goes on to really lay out that what he's talking about in terms of this stuff

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is back in early times, you had really rudimentary weapons.

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Free tribulation rapture.

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Absolutely.

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You had rudimentary weapons that anybody could use.

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And in those times, you had armies that were made up of just citizens.

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And so you would have people who would be driven to war, mostly by overarching reasons

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to go to war, like encroachment from, you know, like someone's going to wipe us out,

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taking our land, stealing our drugs, high and the reasons that like the wire, high end

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philosophical reasons to go to war, like self sustaining reasons to go to war.

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Whereas in the future, the weapons are going to become more complex and more expensive.

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And that requires professionalization of the army.

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Right.

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And in those cases, what you would see is likely a reduction of all out war.

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Because in those circumstances, you would have professional armies who aren't going

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to go to war necessarily for the same reasons that you could when everyone had swords and

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shit like that.

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They aren't willing to die, you know, for smaller reasons.

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Right.

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Basically, it's your job, but you're not going to die.

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So because Obama said like, but on page 1201, when the continued professionalization of

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the armed services caused by an increase in complexity of weapons, we may look forward

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with some assurances to lessen less demand for total wars, using total weapons of mass

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destruction to achieve unconditional surrender and unlimited goals.

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So he goes on to talk about the situation between the United States and the Soviet Union

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and how the idea that we're getting worse and worse nuclear weapons makes everything

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much scarier, but also makes the likelihood of any of those things happening less likely

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because they're so scary and because there are...

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Okay, so essentially what he is saying is not about intra citizenry.

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No.

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He's talking about international cooperation.

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And so when you have minority and majority conversations within that quote that Alex

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used, he's talking about the world.

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Exactly.

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He's not talking about like a government necessarily oppressing its citizens and taking away its

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guns.

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Now he's talking about the outsized sway that America and the Soviet Union have in global

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politics because of their specialized weapons.

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You can't just go to war with America because we can blow you up.

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Yeah.

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That's what he's saying.

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That's a big part of it.

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Gotcha.

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And it's a text that is, again, we keep coming back to this.

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It's a text that's descriptive, not prescriptive.

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He is a historian who's talking about the trends that have existed throughout history

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in civilizations and talking about what is likely to come from these trends, not saying

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we should do X, Y, or Z, just talking about the potential outcomes that could come from

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this path, this path, this path.

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Now I found a quote on page 1208 that I thought was actually very interesting.

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That's too many pages for Alex Reid.

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Alex can't read that far.

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Quote, there is still another element of this complex picture.

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This is also related to weapons.

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The large part of history over thousands of years shows that the reason political units

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have grown larger in certain periods has been because of the increased power of the offensive

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in the dominant weapons systems and the periods in which defensive weapons become dominant

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have been those in which political units remained small in area or even became smaller.

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The growing power of castles in the period of about 1100 BC to about AD 900 made political

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power so decentralized and made power units so small that all power became private power

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and the state disappeared as a common form of political organization.

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Thus arose the so-called dark ages.

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So the thing that I'm bringing up here is that Alex would probably really like the decentralization

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of power and making power units smaller.

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He doesn't like the federal government.

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He likes the state government.

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Right.

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So if you really wanted to say that, why don't you fucking tell everyone to get a castle?

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You know, right.

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Well, that's what he has.

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But you know what I'm saying?

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Like even in there, he's not Carol Quigley isn't saying everyone should have fucking castles.

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No, but he's just saying this is one of the effects that you see if you study history

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of offensive versus defensive weapons.

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Right.

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So anyway, that's a that's an interesting that's an interesting idea, because of course,

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if you're defensive weapon based, you are going to be much stronger in a smaller, tighter

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knit. That's that's the whole point.

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If you're you know, you're circling the wagons, everybody's getting as close as possible so

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they can protect each other.

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Yeah.

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Offensive weapons, everybody spreads out because you want to take as much as you possibly can.

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There's an expansionist element to offense.

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Yeah, that's really fascinating.

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It is.

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And I just started I found a copy of Carol Quigley's Tragedy and Hope.

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And in our endgame coverage, I said, fuck this.

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I'm not reading it.

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It's thirteen hundred pages long.

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Right.

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But I've started reading it.

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It's actually really fascinating so far.

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I'm but yeah.

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Then in a certain way, it's even more fascinating that Alex loves loves guns so much because

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guns themselves, according to that kind of thought process, are one of the main reasons

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that we have a federal government.

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Yes, 100 percent ironic.

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Yeah, his stated goals are defeated by the symbol that he has chosen to love so much.

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And guns are one of the reasons that like expansionism, colonialism were able to be

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so successful in the times that they were.

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Again, so specialized military weaponry that at the time be shared at the time.

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Absolutely.

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Exactly.

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That's another piece of this, that everything is so relative to the time that it's written.

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And this was written again in the 60s.

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So anyway.

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Well, yeah, but you saw that the globalist did it, right?

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Right.

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Anyway, I will have a lot more once I finish this book about how stupid Alex is about Carol

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Quigley and tragedy of hope, tragedy and hope.

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But at this point, this quote that he's taking is real.

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Man, I hope he never gets anywhere near Barbara Tuchman because he is not going to be able

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to understand a goddamn word she writes.

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No, I bet he pretends that he I understand Joyce.

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Yeah, um, see, that's Finnegan's Wake.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I finished Infinite Jest.

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That's what he says on first dates.

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Not his best work.

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I prefer the short stories.

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I prefer a supposedly fun thing I'll never do again.

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Nonfiction pieces are his best work.

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Absolutely.

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So in this next clip, this is the last thing we're going to hear from the episode with

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Alex and Steve Anderson.

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But I wanted to play this especially just to illustrate that Alex is agreeing with him

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and the two of them are sort of tag teaming.

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This conspiracy talk and they're in agreement.

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That's that's important.

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Pastor Anderson, another comment there, and then we'll go back to the caller.

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Right.

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You know, it talks about the distribution of power amongst a lot of people versus being

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ruled by a small minority.

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Well, when we look at the Book of Revelation, we see the end of this is that all the power

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is going to be concentrated in 10 kings or 10 leaders.

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And then all of those who give power under the beast.

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Exactly.

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Then those 10 kings will further give all their power to one man who's called the dragon.

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What's happening right now?

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All of the power he's going to rule over the entire world.

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And he's going to have cures and diseases, life extension.

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It says his image will be projected into all places.

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Real quick, using what?

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He's saying that the Antichrist is going to have cures for diseases and life extension.

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In 2016, 2017, he's been screaming about Trump bringing us cures for diseases and life extension.

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Don't worry about it.

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Don't worry about it.

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It's very weird.

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Leave it alone.

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A hologram TV.

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It describes that.

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Exactly.

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It does not describe a hologram TV.

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Everyone.

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And not only is he going to have all the political power, but he's also going to be worshipped

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as God.

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And the Christians are going to declare him to be the second coming of Jesus Christ, the

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apostate Christians.

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That's because they believe, well, you know, this must be the rapture or something.

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This is the second coming of Christ.

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And the Jews are going to say, this is our Messiah.

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We've been waiting for.

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And then, you know, the Islamic people, they will declare him to be the fifth imam or whatever.

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And then, or the imam Mahdi.

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And then, you know, the Buddhists are going to say, well, this is the new embodiment of

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the Dalai Lama or whatever.

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And that's why the UN already says you can have your religion, but it's going to worship

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this.

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Exactly, all of the major mainline religions, including apostate Christianity, are all going

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to be.

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Look at how the Pope's been saying we need a one world religion and all the same.

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Exactly.

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They're all having Christians always saying we need a one world religion, but it's Christianity.

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Don't they go everywhere?

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OK, now, yes, we are looking for the second coming of Jesus Christ, but we know it comes

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after the tribulation.

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We know that the imposter comes first.

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So there we go.

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This is the conclusion that they've come to.

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Alex is a pretrib.

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He's a he hates the pretrib guys because he thinks it's a cop out for Christians.

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Right.

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Like Jesus is going to come.

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Oh, you guys don't even want to live through the rapture.

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Right, right.

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Yeah, that sort of thing.

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It's an I think it's a function of his weird masculinity.

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Yeah, of course.

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I I'm thrilled to go through the rapture.

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I want to look at how strong I am.

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I'll be the best at the rapture.

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I'll be I will I will save all Christians.

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So I listen to this again.

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It's boring.

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They just once anybody starts to worship anybody, I'll punch them.

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So that like two minutes there is just the flavor of the entire time.

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Just them nerding out.

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Yeah.

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Real hard as if they were talking about Star Trek.

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Yeah, basically.

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So what I decided to do instead of listening to more of that.

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Dan was I pulled a bunch of clips from various sermons of Steve Anderson.

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God damn it, Dan.

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This guy is the worst.

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This guy sucks.

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We're just doing sermons today.

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Well, God damn it.

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Jordan, it's going to make you really mad.

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But I promise at the end of this, it's going to be really funny.

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OK.

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But what the reason that I'm doing this is one of the one of the things that is very

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important to this podcast is illustrating evangelizing Christianity.

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That's I know it's a stealth thing.

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I know you guys didn't pick up on that.

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But secretly, Dan is an evangelical Christian.

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No.

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He has been trying to get Christian iconography into this iconography.

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Like my Cthulhu show?

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Yeah, exactly.

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No, what I what I want to what I want to stress is like the caliber of guests Alex has on

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his show.

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Like a lot of times people who come on try and present themselves as like he's trying

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to present himself as like a biblical expert or something like that.

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He's a scholar.

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Right, right. And here's the first clip.

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Oh, boy.

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You know what makes women stupid is college, because college makes everybody stupid.

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Because fools, fools say in their heart that there is no God.

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And it's an atheistic fools.

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It's not a school system.

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It's a fool system that teaches humanism and atheism and agnosticism and godlessness and

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blasphemy against the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Look, the beginning of knowledge is the fear of the Lord, the beginning of knowledge, the

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beginning of wisdom, the beginning of understanding is the fear of the Lord.

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And so many fools walk out the door of these institutions of so-called higher learning

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because they're learning from fools and they become a fool themselves.

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You know, you talk to some of the smartest people that you know.

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There are people who know this book really well.

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Why?

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Because the Bible says of the word of God, making wise the simple.

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The Bible makes wise the simple.

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I've noticed people when they get saved and start reading the Bible, they get smarter.

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In all areas, not even just spiritually.

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They just get smarter because the Bible makes you smart.

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What is that Dunning-Kruger effect?

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The Bible makes you smart.

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Is that the one where if you're kind of dumb, you think you're smart?

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Well, you can never know how dumb you are.

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Right.

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And if you don't know how dumb you are, you're probably pretty dumb.

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So you never considered that as a possibility.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So women get dumb by going to college.

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That's the trick.

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That's how we got them.

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We're starting off light.

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We're starting off light.

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It's too easy.

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It makes too much sense, Dan.

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That's why your dumb brain can't process it.

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You've never even read the Bible, I bet, right?

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I have.

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Multiple times.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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Well then, how come you're not so wise?

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What?

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Uh, I mean, there's an interesting conversation to have there.

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Years of abuse.

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Yeah, that really did slow me down.

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That will do that.

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That will do that.

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You know, leading to self-destructive behaviors that kept me from going to a good school.

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If you want to get smarter, though, you should convert to Christianity.

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Because he just said it.

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He's seen so many people get so much smarter.

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Okay.

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Well, I could go back in time.

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You could enroll in a college course, too.

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That would also work.

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I could go back in time and not have gone to college.

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Well, then you wouldn't be so stupid.

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Right.

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So here is Steve Anderson talking about something he used to wish for.

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You know, and I grew up always feeling like a second-class citizen.

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Like, man, I wish I were a Jew.

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Seriously.

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I mean, I seriously thought that when I was a kid.

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I was like, man, it stinks that I'm a gentile because I just, you know, I want to be number

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one, man.

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I want to, you know, I want to be his main people.

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I want to be the special people.

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I don't want to be just like, you know, the red-headed stepchild of God's family.

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And so, man, when I learned this truth, it was exciting.

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The truth is that his church are the chosen people.

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Oh, that's crazy.

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He also has a video that's too long for me to have played on here that is just titled

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Why We're Not a Cult.

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If you got to make that video.

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That is a cult.

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You got to believe it.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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Wait, wait.

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So is his church like, are they past, like, all the Bible stuff and right into we're the

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only chosen people and that?

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I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure, but I think I know for a fact that he thinks that most of Christianity is

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apostate Christianity, apostate Christianity.

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Yeah, he's the founder of the nonprofit Faithful Word, as I call it, Aeropostate, the Faithful

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Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona.

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The church is currently listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center because

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of Anderson's racial stances, including the belief of radical stances.

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Excuse me.

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I was going to say he doesn't really actually have.

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Look at how not racist is.

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He used to want to be a Jew.

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Well, outside outside of the anti Semitic stuff that is going to come into play.

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Of course, I don't from the videos that I watched, I might have not watched everything,

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but from the videos that I watched, he doesn't really seem like a racist.

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Let's all give him credit.

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Yeah, I'm going to lean towards racist.

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So he what does he look like?

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Is it big, thin?

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I see.

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I see a thin dude in shape with good hair.

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He has fine hair.

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I don't think it's super, super terrible hair.

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Like dark brown?

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Got a little bit of a beard to him.

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Anderson established his church on Christmas of 2005 at his home address.

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He established it as a totally independent organization.

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The church's website states Faithful Baptist, Faithful Word Baptist Church is a totally

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independent Baptist Church.

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And Pastor Anderson was sent out by a totally independent Baptist Church to start it in

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the old fashioned way by knocking on doors and winning souls to Christ.

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About a year and a half later, the church was moved to a strip mall that was also used

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by Anderson's fire alarm installation business.

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When questioned about the relationship between the for profit business and the not for profit

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church in 2009, Anderson responded angrily.

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Yeah, so good times.

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All right.

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Good times on that.

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I'm going to go on the record as saying I think I would rather go to church in some

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dude's home than in the fire fire alarm alarm sales shop.

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So let's get on to this next clip.

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I think that would be less disappointing.

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Hey Jordan, let me ask you a question.

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Do you like holidays?

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Apparently I'm going to learn not to.

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Yep.

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And now you have all the Judaizers out there.

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All right.

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Never mind.

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Who are telling us Christmas is pagan and how we need to Rosh Hashanah and Hanukkah

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and all that kind of stuff, right?

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Hanukkah's all that junk and they want to get us on all this Jewish Hebrew roots thing

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instead of the Christian holiday celebrating the birth.

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Hey, I'd rather celebrate the birth of Christ than Hanukkah, which is celebrating dedicating

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a temple that God destroyed.

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Like you're celebrating a building that God destroyed.

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Yay.

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This is where we got the temple back.

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Oh, but then later it got wiped out because Jesus said it would.

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Because we rejected Jesus.

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Is he killing?

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He's killing, isn't he?

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I mean, Hanukkah doesn't make any sense.

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Yeah.

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What are you talking about?

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Hanukkah doesn't make any sense?

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To me.

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That's what he should have said.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Because you could make the same...

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His argument that God destroyed the temple and all that could be flipped back that the

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miracle of the oil staying for as long as it did is God's way of saying...

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Chill.

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Be cool.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's another miracle of God.

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This is so dumb.

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The argument, it's so just like, no, no, no, my stuff.

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My fantasy is better than your fantasy.

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Like, why does he sound to me like a...

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Or my legend is better than your legend.

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Let's say it that way.

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He saw way too much Andrew Dice Clay and then he was like, well, I'm bad at stand up, so

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I guess I'll become a cult leader.

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There is a little bit of stand up to him.

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Yeah, I can hear it.

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We'll hear a little bit later.

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But I mean, what's with these other holidays?

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Like Rosh Hashanah or whatever that is.

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Am I right?

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All right, we'll be right back.

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That would be a fun show.

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Seinfeld, but with terrible, bigoted preacher.

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How did he workshop his material?

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So he's up there preaching for a little bit, screaming like, what's up with this fucking

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dumb ass other holiday?

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And then the whole episode would be about him getting invited to a neighbor's Yom Kippur

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celebration and him being like, Yom Kippur?

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Isn't Kippur dog food?

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Hold on one second.

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Yeah, terrible.

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So Jordan, they do the opposite episode of Seinfeld, though, where they have to masturbate

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the longest.

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He's not into that.

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Who can go the longest while masturbating?

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I will tell you this.

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Anderson is not into that.

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I would have never guessed.

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So you know what else he's not into?

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Well, you know what it does?

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It gets rid of your male seat.

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Well, I'm sure if he was pressed, that would be something he believed or something like

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it takes away your drive to dominate your wife.

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And what's the real miracle here, huh?

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So Jordan, for the first many episodes of this podcast, we drank red wine while drinking

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and doing the podcast.

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Lost track of words.

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Drinking while drinking.

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Steve Anderson has some thoughts about wine.

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The Bible says the pastor should not be given to wine.

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The deacons should not be given to much wine.

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Wine in the Bible is fruit juice.

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Now, often it's alcoholic.

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And other times it's not alcoholic.

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It just depends on the context.

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But you know what?

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As a pastor, I should not be given to either.

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What?

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Wait, what fruit juice?

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Or the non-alcoholic kind.

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You know why?

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Because if I'm given to the alcoholic kind, then I'm a drunk.

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And if I'm given to the non-alcoholic kind, I'm going to get fat.

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And you know what?

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All across America, we have fat creatures in the pulpits.

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All across America.

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By the thousands.

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And look, I'm not down on them.

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I don't hate them.

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I'm not mad at them.

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Sounds like you do.

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That's a bad example.

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Sounds like you do.

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I'm not mad at them.

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Listen, I don't drink wine because that'll get you drunk.

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I don't drink fruit juice because there are just too many antioxidants in there.

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I don't know what an antioxidant is, but you can't have that in my body.

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Now look, creatures can't be fat.

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That's just true.

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You know what?

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I actually don't think that he's...

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I mean, it's a terrible argument that doesn't make any sense.

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But hey, he's not fat.

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So I mean, good on him.

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I don't know.

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It's tough to avoid gaining weight.

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So let's just go over shit so far.

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College makes women stupid and everyone else stupid.

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You just need to read the Bible.

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It'll make you very, very, very smart.

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If you read the Bible, you know not to drink fruit juice.

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Steve used to wish he was Jewish.

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Pastors shouldn't be fat and Hanukkah doesn't make sense to him.

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Now here's the next clip.

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As for ye brethren, verse 14, became followers of the churches of God,

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which in Judea are in Christ Jesus,

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for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen,

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even as they have of the Jews,

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who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets,

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and have persecuted us, and they please not God, and are contrary to all men.

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I mean, is he making a point here or what?

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This is a list.

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They killed Jesus.

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They killed their own prophets.

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They persecuted us.

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Oh, but they please God, right?

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Nope, they don't please God.

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They please not God.

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Well, certainly, maybe they just don't get along with you.

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Certainly, there's somebody that they get along with.

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I think you just made the argument.

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No, they're contrary to all men.

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Nope.

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Well, certainly, they must get along with someone.

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No, no, no, they're contrary to all men.

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Oh, boy.

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Oh, boy.

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Okay.

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Oh, boy.

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Okay, this is breaking the lid wide open.

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Maybe God is a Nazi.

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Did you consider that?

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Interesting.

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That explains so much.

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Well, their version of God is.

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Well, yeah.

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Their version of God is deep, deep into Nazi ideology.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I don't like that kind of preaching, quite frankly.

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I don't like his kind of preaching.

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I realize keeping that clip in might have been a little bit soft in terms of what this

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guy is capable of.

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Okay.

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But I just was like, wait, are you insinuating the Jews can't get along with anybody?

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Yeah.

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And God hates them.

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For all time.

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And they killed Christ.

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Sure.

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So there you go.

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We've already got three.

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He's going to give us three more things.

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No, because we got to move on to something else and move on to something else.

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Very important.

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All right.

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You're talking about porn earlier, right?

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Uh, no, I was just talking about masturbating.

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You don't need to.

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You don't need to use porn.

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A lot of people do.

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Okay.

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Either way, porn or not.

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You're, you know, you're struggling with lust, which is one of those deadly sins.

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Right.

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Like fruit juice.

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Steve Anderson has the key to getting around this lust demon.

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Fruit juice?

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A lot of people have come to me and said, you know, oh, I'm, you know, I struggle with.

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First of all, I like the a lot of people come up to me.

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That's just, so the other day I'm at the grocery store and somebody comes up to me.

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We're back to hack you.

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Stay out of people have come to me and said, you know, oh, I struggle with, uh, temptation

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and struggling with, you know, the temptation to fornicate or, or temptations with pornography

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or temptations with lust.

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And you know, what do I do?

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And they have all these solutions, but they don't talk about the biblical solution, which

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is to get married.

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That's the biblical solution.

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The problem now, a lot of people will attack me for saying that and say, that's just so

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wicked and ungodly to say that, you know, that the purpose of getting married is to

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avoid fornication.

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But isn't that exactly what the Bible says?

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That's what it teaches.

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Okay.

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This is just realistic.

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This is just biblical teaching from the Bible, whether people like it or not, it's, it's

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God's word.

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So God demands purity and it's better to marry than to burn.

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That's what the Bible says.

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Okay, that's weird.

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That's a weird, I mean, that's, that's fairly innocuous for a cult.

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It's dumb.

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It's very dumb.

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And it's, it's making a straw man argument of like people's criticism of him.

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It's a weird thing for people to criticize.

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Well, because I mean, the main thing is marriage does not deal with lust issues.

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I mean, people cheat on their spouses all the fucking time.

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Yeah, but they're married.

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Right.

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God's cool with it.

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All right.

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See, there you go.

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So there's all kinds of, uh, you know, there's all kinds of divorces that come from, uh,

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lust on either partner's part.

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And then the idea that he's saying that like, oh, uh, people will say I'm wicked for saying

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this.

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It's like, no, people will say you're dumb because it doesn't solve the problem.

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You're just being an idiot.

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This one would be so far down on my list of things to talk to him about.

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I think I'd start with the, are you a Nazi?

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And then maybe after a week or so I'd get down to what's up with the, you don't, are

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you saying you don't fuck in your marriage?

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Is that what you're saying?

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I'm not sure what he's saying, but I just kept that in because I thought it was a real

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dumb.

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But, uh, in this next clip, we, we learned pre-show in the, uh, the musical playlist

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that we both love Moana.

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Both love, uh, some of these great comic cartoon movies that have come out.

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I haven't seen a number of the ones recently, but, uh, this next clip is Steve Anderson

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giving a review of Coco in his car.

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Coco's great.

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Everybody past Steven Anderson here from faithful word Baptist church in Tempe, Arizona.

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I'm up here in Kayenta, Arizona doing soul winning on the Navajo reservation with about

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30 people from our church.

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Well, we went out to lunch at subway today and the kid's meal at subway was this Disney

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movie called Coco.

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And you can see that it has a big skull as the logo.

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And it's that kind of telltale artwork of the Mexican holiday day of the dead or

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point of order.

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He hasn't seen the movie.

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What?

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All right.

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Via de los Muertos and somebody explained to me, yeah, that's what this movie's about.

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It's some demonic film of, of some child, you know, who's communicating with the dead

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and, you know, just glorifying and promoting this wicked perverted holiday of via de los

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Muertos.

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And what's interesting is that brother Bruce Mejia, who's preaching down at faithful word

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Baptist L.A. on a weekly basis, he actually just made an awesome documentary about this

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because not about, I didn't really know much about this holiday, the so-called day of the

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dead or it was kind of like a Mexican Halloween.

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And obviously I could tell that it was ungodly.

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Sure.

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But I watched this documentary.

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I learned a lot more about it.

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And I recommend that you do the same because this is the kind of garbage that they're

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trying to promote even to children.

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Now it's demonic.

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Yeah, it's demonic.

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Yep.

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So that's it.

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That's just to illustrate that he's one of these, he's triggered by everything.

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You know, one of these guys who's just like, that's, that's such a, like when he said

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that, I know for him, it wasn't that big a deal, but thinking about it, that is the heart

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of just about every conversation that I have with like Christian people, specifically my

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family is like, I'm not going to engage with that.

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Right.

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Because obviously it's ungodly.

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I don't need to learn anything about it.

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I don't need to meet with it on its own terms.

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I can see from here as far away as I can be that I don't ever want to it's ungodly.

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Well, you know, you know what?

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Now, if you watch the goddamn film, Coco, it's beautiful.

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And it's about the joy of music and about a boy coming to terms with who he is and how

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his family has held him down.

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I am not trying to say that Coco is in any way related to how I feel about my childhood.

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This sounds demonic.

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Actually.

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That's a good point.

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See, you just actually embodied why they don't engage is because their perception is that

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if you get too close, you get sucked in and you got sucked in.

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So you're actually reinforcing their desire to stay far away by being like, it's so great.

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But that desire to stay far away is essentially ignorance and cowardice running your life.

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Absolutely.

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So 100 percent.

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So I'm going to go.

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I'm going to go with go fuck yourself.

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Absolutely.

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So in that he didn't see the movie.

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But as you heard, he's got great.

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He went to Subway.

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The music is so good.

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Oh, it's such a great movie.

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You should see it.

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He went to Subway.

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His kid got a kid's meal that had the cocoa on it.

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And that triggered him enough to make a fucking video in his car.

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Did he let his kid have soda?

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I don't know.

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I can't because that's how you get fat.

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I can't say either way on that.

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Might have been Diet Coke.

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That's still how you get fat, but aspartame.

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The point I'm making here is that at Subway, they have food.

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Yes.

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Which is ungodly.

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Other places.

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There is no food.

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Do you think that there's food in hell?

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Do you think that in hell they're serving up meal times for breakfast, lunch and dinner?

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If a person goes to hell, they'll never eat again.

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And they'll never take a drink again.

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And think about how enjoyable it is to eat good food.

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Yeah, that's biblical.

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You got a lot of so much, so much, so much magic, so much magic in the way these guys

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think, right?

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You go to hell, you never eat again.

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Never going to eat again.

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All right.

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So that means that like sort of the metabolic processes have to stop, right?

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Right.

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And I would assume that means my central nervous system stops too.

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And that's magic.

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It's magic torture forever.

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OK, so my body just magically creates energy then when I'm down in hell and the internal

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organs.

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No, God magically creates it.

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So God lets the devil run it.

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So OK, so God is allowing the devil to continue like my pain sensors and what have you.

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Right.

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Though there is nothing to power any of it.

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Right.

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OK, that makes sense.

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It's just a bunch of disembodied brains in jars.

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Is all that science in the Bible?

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Oh, yeah.

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It's in Ezekiel.

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Do they even mention hell?

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No, no.

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There is no there's no hell in the Bible.

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Oh, man.

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It just reminds me of how traumatized I was by the song by the Newsboys, that Christian

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rock band.

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There's a song called They Don't Serve Breakfast in Hell.

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And when I was at...

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See, now that would be a pretty bad ass metal song, though.

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Maybe.

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That's an issue.

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Maybe if it wasn't a Christian.

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I can see it.

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It's about or it could be a great country song, like a Waylon Jennings song about a

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guy who gets his teeth punched out, eating breakfast, and then it kills the man later.

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And he says, like, they don't serve breakfast in hell.

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It's not what the song was like at all.

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No.

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But when I was at church camp, they would always play the song blaring over the loudspeakers

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to wake us up.

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That is hell.

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It was.

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Yeah.

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Why would you do that?

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I don't know if anyone out there has actually heard this song, but it is not something you

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want to wake up to.

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Jesus.

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It's terrible.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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It's still like it still rings through my head.

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I might know all the words about it.

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Anyway, look, that's not good.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll tell you this about the Newsboys, right?

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Yeah.

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They're a band that, you know, has played a part in my life because of that.

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But I don't follow them on Facebook, and I wouldn't like something that they post on

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Facebook.

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Your setups for these are getting more and more torturous.

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Now, look, the subway reference.

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I was like, okay.

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And then I got it.

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I got it.

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You're going a long way for this one.

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Look, you're taking us on a long jaunt.

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All I'm trying to tell you is that Pastor Steve Anderson has some very interesting rules

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about what he likes on Facebook.

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You know, and sometimes it can have a great impact when your friend comes to you and

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lovingly tells you you're going down a dark path.

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I'm worried about you.

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You're going down a dark path.

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What you're doing is wrong.

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Here's what the Bible says.

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You know, let's get this right.

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Let's come back to the Lord.

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You know, that's something that we need to do and not just watch our friends go off the

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clip, and we're just clicking like on every bastard baby picture, and we're clicking

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like on all the drunken pictures and alcohol.

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We're clicking like on the sleazy attire of a harlot, and we're clicking like on everything

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that's wicked.

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You know, I don't ever click like on a picture on Facebook unless the people in that picture

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are dressed properly.

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I don't care who they are.

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I mean, ouch.

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But look, if somebody's in a short skirt, I'm not clicking like on that picture.

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Nope, nope.

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Some guy's tagging his pants and showing his underwear.

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No like for you.

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I got to pause there for a second, because that's I think you're trying to do comedy.

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That's clearly that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But I don't like.

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But I think he means it.

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I clearly means it.

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Yeah, he does not understand he is doing comedy.

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But listen to the end of this.

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Bottle of booze in the picture.

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I'm not clicking like.

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Woman in pants.

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I'm not even clicking like.

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You know, I click like when people are dressed right.

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I just love that.

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I love that.

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Woman in pants.

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I'm not clicking like.

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He's up there giving a sermon like this is in front of his congregation.

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He sounds like an 85 year old man on a on a fucking rocking chair stoop in the south

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in 1974.

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But he starts with like, you know, your friends can check you if you're doing something wrong.

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Yeah.

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Then he gets into I don't like pictures of bastard babies.

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If you're if your friends are getting away from God, you you take them aside and you

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say, hey, let's get this right.

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Let's get you back on track.

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Now other people go on Facebook.

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They're fucking all the time.

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Got their babies and you click like you sinful pieces of shit.

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You sit.

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It's you might as well have had your own bastard baby if you click like on that picture.

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And God damn you if I see you wearing pants, ladies and wear a short skirt.

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It's a long dress.

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Got to be a long dress all the time.

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What are we talking like?

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Ankle ankle?

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No.

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Can it be?

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No, it's got to have like a like a like a what's it called?

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Any trail?

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Well, a tail, not a tail train train.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm just saying like, where's where where does God really fall on the below the knee

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kind of correct length there?

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I don't know, man.

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I don't think he said.

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I don't think he said you didn't put that.

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I want to say that that's why the Sermon on the Mount is so popular, because he really

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got into skirt length.

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But look, this is all just about subjugation of women.

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Right.

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Oh, of course.

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That's just all about reinforcing ideas of like women can't make their own choice.

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Oh, no, the cult my parents were in was all about that.

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Yeah.

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And in this next clip, he goes a little bit longer.

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We live in a day where husbands don't want to provide for their wives.

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A lot of deadbeat husbands out there.

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They don't want to work hard.

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They don't want to pay the bills.

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And sometimes they're even husbands that literally stay home and are jobless and their wife goes

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out and makes all the money.

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And that is a backward situation that needs to be fixed as soon as possible.

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If somebody is in that situation, we as men say, oh, you know, you're old fashioned traditional.

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No, we as men need to fulfill that role of being the provider.

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And we need to wear the pants in that family.

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And let me tell you something, the one paying the bills is the one who makes the rules.

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That's just the way life works in general.

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No.

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And we as men need to be a provider.

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Our wife should be able to say my husband is providing and I shall not want.

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Well, I think what's craziest about that is just the idea of like no collaboration.

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Yeah.

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Men need to make all the money because if you make the money, you make the rules.

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And you don't want your wife making the rules because then you've got to follow your wife's

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rules.

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Oh, you can't do that.

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That's ungodly.

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As opposed to viewing, you know, like a partnership where you guys collaborate on like,

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yeah, what's the best rules for whatever?

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You know, how we want to live our lives together.

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Nope.

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Oh, let's see.

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I want to do X, Y or Z pursuit that might take a while.

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Maybe I want to start a business.

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Oh, yeah.

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How much money do you make, asshole?

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Maybe I want to do a startup.

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I make the rules.

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Maybe I want to maybe I'm a guy and I want to start up a small business.

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And my wife is a doctor and she makes all the money for a while while I'm while she's

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supporting me as I nurture this small business.

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Fuck.

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So are you saying this is all saying that perhaps partnerships could

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lead to better outcomes for both people?

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Possibly.

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As opposed to ratcheting yourself into chains made of the rules that you don't understand

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you shouldn't want, even though you're told that you have to make them?

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I think it's something along those lines.

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Okay, gotcha.

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But you'll notice that all.

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Also, do not come at me with the nerdiest, lamest voice telling me about what men now

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what men need to do.

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Right.

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Men need to be the ruler like you're clearly just overcompensating and you're probably

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gay.

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Oh, interesting.

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You should say that.

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Because this next clip is from a Q and A session that Steve Anderson.

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Steve, are you gay?

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That's my question.

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Hello, this is Pastor Anderson.

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Hey, Pastor Anderson.

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This is Mike.

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I'm from Nevada.

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I had a question for you.

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Sure.

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But, yeah, I've been watching a lot of your YouTube lately, and I saw some of your sermons

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where you were saying the gays have a reprobate mind and you actually had to cast one out

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of your church.

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And I was just wondering, is it possible for somebody that was gay to actually be saved

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and come to Christ?

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No, I don't believe so, because of the fact that, you know, if you look at John Chapter

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12, where Jesus talks about people whose hearts had been hardened and their eyes had been

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blinded.

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In fact, I'll read it for you.

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It says in verse number 39 of John 12.

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Therefore, they could not believe because the desire said before he had blinded their

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eyes and hardened their heart that they should not see with their eyes nor understand with

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their heart and be converted and I should heal them.

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So he talks about people whose eyes are blinded.

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Their heart is hardened to where they could not believe.

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And I think that in Romans 1, it's pretty clear that the reason why a man would lust

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after another man, which is pretty hard to explain.

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You know, when you think about the fact that 90-some people think it's disgusting and revolting,

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you know, what would get a person to actually desire that?

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You're going on long enough for me to think you're gay.

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God gave them over to vile affections.

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God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things, which are not convenient.

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And he explains in the process how their foolish heart was darkened and how they are people

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who don't even want to retain God in their knowledge, the Bible says, and they are haters

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of God.

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They're haters of God.

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Can't have the haters.

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So a little bit of...

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So if I understand correctly, John 12.39, no gays.

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No, I think it's also actually about just like non-believers and stuff like that.

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I don't really actually think that that was about...

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Anyway, a little fun fact about Steve.

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During his travels, he met his future wife, Zusanna, while out evangelizing in the streets

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of Munich, Bavaria.

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He converted her to Christianity and they were married shortly afterward.

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You know what I...

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Beard.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know what I get?

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I'm not saying...

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You can make all the jokes you want.

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I'm not saying he's gay.

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I'm saying he's a creep.

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Yeah, he's definitely a creep.

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Yeah, he's definitely a creep.

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You've run into these cats before.

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Oh, so many times.

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So many of these guys.

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I get this vibe of like, yeah, I found this person in a foreign country and we barely

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could speak to each other and I indoctrinated her to my very bizarre version of Christianity,

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took her away from her family in Germany and brought her back stateside and now she's stuck.

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Yep.

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And I make all the rules.

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And because I make all the money with my cult, I make the fucking rules that she doesn't

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wear pants.

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Right.

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It's very easy to do that with people that you take from a foreign country.

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People who you bring over to your life.

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I just get that vibe from him.

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Also, the convenient line on the complaints about gays, very weird.

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There was so much.

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He did the exact, like that little answer to the question was exactly what I have heard

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from so many former Christian, now gay people of like, now it can't be fine for God because

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some people think it's gross.

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And you're like, wait, what did you say?

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You said some people.

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Well, he said 90 something percent of people think it's disgusting.

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And if you take the homosexual population who definitely doesn't think it's disgusting

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and then you just take the people who are like, yeah, I get it.

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You could like having sex with someone of your same gender.

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I don't think that's weird or gross at all.

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That's not just 10 percent of the population unless you're including all of the world.

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And there's a lot of like the third world countries where I'm sure that would bump the

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average up.

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But either way, it would never be 90.

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I think what he just said is he was gay.

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Uh, that's crazy, because listen to this.

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No homos will ever be allowed on this church as long as I'm the pastor here.

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Never.

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I can't be around them.

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I can't.

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Then you guys don't even know what I do.

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You don't even know you weren't there.

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I thought Susanna was a man.

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You're going to she's from Germany.

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That's where they have a hair on their faces.

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I thought she was a man.

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He's bagging on the fucking pet.

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Like his his pulpit so hard.

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

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You don't you don't feel that kind of passion.

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So little known fact to you.

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Steve has been kicked out of multiple countries for his homophobic preaching.

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All right.

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Here's why he got kicked out of Canada.

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Yes.

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And then finally, the official reason that they gave for not letting me in the country

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is they said that the preaching that I did in Botswana on the radio program where Botswana

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deported me for what I preached on the radio about the homos.

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They said, well, then, you know, because they kicked you out, we're not going to let you

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in because that's not in an interview.

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That's in a sermon.

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That's in a sermon.

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So, so I got deported from Botswana for telling people that homosexuals should be burned.

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Right.

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And all of a sudden, Canada is like, we don't want you here anymore.

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It's like, why?

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It's like, why?

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I'm wearing pants.

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That's what a man's supposed to do.

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Come on.

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I'm not allowed in four or five countries because I'm such a antagonistic bigot.

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Yeah, it's amazing.

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He is.

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He is crazy.

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So in this next clip, what we get in is he has some props in one of his sermons.

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He has a nut and a bolt and he's going to demonstrate why homosexuality is stupid.

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And speaking of nuts, I have a nut here.

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Okay.

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And this is a bolt.

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Okay.

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So listen, this is what a normal person does.

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All right.

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See, I got a bolt right here.

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Represent the male, right?

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We got the nut right here.

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Represent the female.

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All right.

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This is what normal people do.

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Okay.

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This is what, now let me show you what insanity says to do.

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So he's banging them together.

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But at the same time, he doesn't realize that bolt could be a butthole.

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Or the nut or whatever.

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The hole could be an asshole or a mouth.

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Ah, but all he's talking about is ladies on ladies.

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Oh, maybe he's talking about his...

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He doesn't like scissoring.

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Okay.

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Which is not a thing.

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So you're fine, man.

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I guess.

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I guess.

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You're doing all right.

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Also, somehow this is offensive to me as well.

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Like, it doesn't work.

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Stupid.

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See, but people are crazy.

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Oh, it works, baby.

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And then here's what they do.

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They say, oh, Pastor Anderson's crazy.

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First off, did he screw the...

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Did he like twist the nut into the bolt and like screw it in there?

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Which is not how it works.

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He does not know how sex works.

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He may not.

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So, I mean, that's just good fun.

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Because he's making that stupid argument.

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That's such a dumb argument.

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And just the fact that there's people who go to this church and they're sitting there

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in the sermon watching the pastor go, ooh, banging a nut in a bolt together.

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Oh, man.

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I can't imagine sitting there and being like, this guy gets it.

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After he's like, I've been kicked out of Botswana.

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This is one of the few times that I'd be like, oh, I want to go to this church.

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I think I want to go.

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I want to sit there and I want to see how long I can take it without laughing.

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Hilarious.

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I think this next rant might change your mind.

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Oh, no.

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Kids do not have the guts to stand up to reprobates.

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I'll stand up to them.

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Unlike most preachers that are a spiritual babe in Christ.

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So they get bullied and picked on by the fags.

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You know what?

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They don't bully me.

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Take me on.

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Huh?

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A bunch of filthy sodomites and queers.

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I'm the one who has the guts to preach against them.

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Yeah.

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And these other preachers need to man up and stand up and say, come on.

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What are you going to do about it?

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You big bully.

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And the reprobates are always bullies, aren't they?

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They march down the street.

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They shout their voice so loud.

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They're such a small minority, but they're always a minority.

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And they're always a bully.

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And they always want to cram it down everybody's throat.

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Well, they're not cramming it down my throat.

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Phrasing.

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You know what?

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I'm glad.

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You know, I didn't like going to seventh grade at that messed up school.

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But in some ways I'm glad I did because it made me so mad that I'm still mad.

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And I still hate their guts.

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I still hate these reprobates.

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I still hate these sodomites.

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I still hate these haters of God.

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Then these vile pervertors of the flesh and I'll stand up to them.

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And I stood up to them then I'm going to stand up to them now.

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And we need some preachers that will stand up and say, no, no, baby, you're not going

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to back us down.

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You're not going to tell us that we're not like Jesus and that we're not.

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You don't even know Jesus.

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We know Jesus.

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We're going to tell you what Jesus is like.

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So that that seventh grade line, is he talking about general bullies or did he get sexually

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assaulted?

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I think he get molested.

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I feel like he probably got molested.

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I think that's one of the possibilities.

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And if so, I feel very bad for him.

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But at the same time, the damage that he's doing now is not appropriate.

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The other possibility is that he had gay feelings in seventh grade or something like that.

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Or maybe just some...

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And it was beaten out of him.

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Maybe.

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Like he was not beaten out of him.

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Obviously, obviously his gay feelings were not beaten out of him.

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It was like he was picked on for being an effeminate homosexual.

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There's there's a lot of possibilities.

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It's very difficult without all the context to know.

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But whatever it is, is something incredibly emotionally charged and a trauma that he's

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very specifically saying happened in seventh grade that has led him to hate gay people

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with a violent passion.

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Yeah.

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And that he should he should go to therapy.

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Yeah.

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This is not the way to work those feelings out.

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Oh, that's not that is not good.

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People don't stand up to him, but I will.

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I'll stand up and I'll say, put your big cock in my mouth.

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Just do it.

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They won't.

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You bully.

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Just put it right in there.

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They won't.

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They try to cram it down everyone's throat.

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Cram it down everybody's throat.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the the realities of like if he is talking about being the victim of some sort

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of assault.

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Yeah, no, that's it's it's terrible.

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And you really it's it's the same story you get from like it's it's how you feel about

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serial killers when you hear about their childhoods.

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Like it always there's always some sort of serious trauma there.

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And it's like, I feel for you.

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That's awful.

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You're awful now.

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Yeah.

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You know, I can't we can't go back and fix that.

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You should try to go get therapy.

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It's it's for the time being, you're killing people.

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It's an intensely complicated version of a balance of empathy and disgust.

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Right.

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That it's possible to feel I don't think for him, but for us.

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Now, from here, it's obvious that he's doing something ungodly.

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Here's where empathy goes straight the fuck out the window.

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Put the mic down.

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Hey everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe,

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Arizona.

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And I just wanted to record a quick video about the news this morning about the shooting

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in Orlando.

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I guess a Muslim terrorist went into a gay bar and shot him up.

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And there's 50 sodomites, homosexuals that have been killed and another 50 some odd injured.

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And then the the Muslim guy himself was was shot by the police, it sounds like.

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And here's the good news and the bad news about this.

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You know, the good news is that there's 50 less pedophiles in this world because, you

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know, homosexuals are a bunch of disgusting perverts and pedophiles.

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That's who was a victim here are a bunch of just disgusting homosexuals at a gay bar.

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OK, but the bad news is that this is now going to be used, I'm sure, to push for gun control

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where, you know, law abiding normal Americans are not going to be allowed to have guns for

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self-defense.

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And then I'm sure it's also going to be used to push an agenda against so-called hate speech.

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So-called.

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The two things there is like that's Alex Jones, but without the subtext with the the, hey,

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good thing these homosexuals died.

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Yeah, that sort of thing.

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Wow.

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So the other thing is he always in all of the interviews that he's given that have been

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like so-called hate. I just said I'm glad people died because they are gay specifically.

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I'm glad.

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And people are going to come after me for hate speech.

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I don't even understand.

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I don't even understand why you consider that hate speech.

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Hey, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that if I said immediately following

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his church being shot the fuck up and I said, well, at least 50 Christians are dead, maybe.

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I'm just going to go out on a limb.

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Maybe some Christians would call that hate speech.

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It's possible.

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It's possible.

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So in an interview-

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Fucking Christ.

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How do you get to that place where it's like, I think I'm glad that gay people are dead.

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Here's an interview that he gave in a BBC documentary.

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It starts with him and then I will indicate when it goes to the interviewer.

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To normal people, homosexuality and pedophilia are disgusting to a normal person.

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And the interviewer says, why do you put pedophilia and homosexuality in the same group?

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He responds, they are in the same group because any man who would have sex with another man

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would have sex with anything, period.

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Like, I'll put it this way.

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Any man who had sex with another man would have sex with an animal.

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The interviewer, that's blatantly not true though.

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He responds, it is true.

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That's reality.

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Even if you don't think it's reality.

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So the interviewer says, what do you think homosexuals should do then?

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He responds, kill themselves.

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As far as I'm concerned, because they're horrible, wicked people.

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They're just going to keep molesting and destroying people.

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So I don't have any advice for homosexuals except to put a bullet in your own head.

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So you don't molest my kids or anyone else's kids.

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And at this point, it becomes very clear since this is such a consistent thread.

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I think he was probably the victim of some sort of assault when he was younger.

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And he has conflated in his mind that all homosexuals are the same as the person who

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assaulted me.

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And that is really sad.

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I mean, at the same time, it's kind of a trite armchair psychology to be like, well, clearly

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based on what you've said, you were molested as a child.

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And so you're carrying this deep hatred with you.

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That seems really likely right now.

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But I'm not going to just go out into this deep, childish misunderstanding.

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Right.

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So anyway, without psychoanalyzing him from a distance or whatever, I agree with you.

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It seems very likely that this explains all of his cosmology and the pain that he's causing

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to a bunch of people and the misleading of 150 or however many people he has in his flock.

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And he's the type of person who Alex Jones willingly has on his show as an expert on

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religion.

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Now, I told you it was going to be terrible.

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And then it was going to be hilarious.

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He used to go on the show in like 2009 or so back and back and a ways in the past.

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And in my looking around, I found this video from pretty currently.

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That's pretty funny.

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Hey, everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe,

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Arizona.

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And I just wanted to make a quick video to give you some thoughts on Alex Jones and Info Wars.

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Now, back in 2008 and 2009, I used to do a lot of driving for my job.

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And so, you know, you're just going down the road for hours and hours and hours.

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And so I would listen to, you know, Alex Jones live quite a bit on those drives just because

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I was bored.

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You know, I'd already listened to the Bible on CD.

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I'd listen to preaching.

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I'd listen to other shows, just tons of time to listen to stuff.

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So, you know, I definitely ended up listening to the Alex Jones show back in those days.

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And I watched his films, you know, The Obama Deception, Endgame, stuff like that.

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And I liked that stuff.

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Just real quick.

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He liked Endgame.

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We have five episodes about why that's a problem.

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I thought it was pretty good at the time.

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And a little bit later on in 2012, when we came out with our film after The Tribulation,

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you know, Alex Jones ended up picking it up and selling it on his Info Wars website starting

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in early 2013.

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And he sold it until just recently.

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He also sold the Book of Revelation series we put out money from him.

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And for a very short time, he also even sold our film New World of War.

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New World Order Bible versions.

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But here's the thing.

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You know, I just I have to just come out and say it that I'm gay.

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You know, I don't support Alex Jones or Info Wars at all.

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And in fact, at this point, I think that Alex Jones is just a total idiot.

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And that InfoWars.com is pretty much a worthless website at this time.

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Isn't that great?

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What a fucking idiot.

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What a bunch of losers.

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Why are these people?

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Why are they allowed?

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So get this.

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He also has some words about Paul Joseph Watson.

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Oh, well, that I'm in for.

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Paul Joseph Watson, OK, which is like the the the second in command to Alex Jones.

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You know, I had been following him on Twitter and on Facebook, and I had to delete him from

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everything because the guy is like a broken record.

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He's so boring.

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Everything is just about Islam and pro Trump and pro homosexual.

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I mean, literally, like everything that this Paul Joseph Watson thing is just now it's

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just pro homosexual and just, you know, pro Trump and anti Islam.

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It's like that's all he can talk about.

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It's so boring, man says the I hate gays and only gays guy.

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Wow.

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So one real quick last little parting shot here from that video about how boring all

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this is.

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Now it's just pro Republican, just, you know, anti Islam.

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And look, I'm against Islam as a wicked religion, but I'm talking about that's all they talk

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about now is just being against Islam, because that's what their Republican neo con warmonger

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audience now wants to hear.

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Apparently, how is it even this guy gets it even this fucking idiot gets it?

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What?

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It's crazy.

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You can't do that.

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It's so crazy.

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No, you can't get it and then just not be able to turn and look in the mirror.

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It's an unbelievable story of, you know, we got this guest on Alex Jones's show who's

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just on the surface appears to be someone who's into post tribulation rapture.

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And then it turns out he is a really weird Christian guy who seems to have some very

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strong feelings in the negative about Jews.

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And then also also goes on violent, angry rants about homosexuals to the effect even

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going so far as to say that they're all pedophiles and he's glad that they got killed in the

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pulse shooting.

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And we can use context clues to figure out why that's the case.

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And then even he fucking gets that Alex is an idiot.

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I can't believe these people.

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It's a broken clock is right once a day kind of thing.

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How does it how does that happen?

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How does it finally break through?

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It what is also I like it.

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I like how he said it's boring.

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It is like how he's like, oh, these guys are just so boring.

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It's because they're just anti Muslim and anti gay Muslims to hold on.

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But you got to switch it up.

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Right.

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He's just pissed off that they're not as overtly anti gay as he wants.

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Exactly.

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And he's and they're not inviting him on.

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He's he's pissed off that they've stopped inviting him on and they aren't selling his

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shit anymore because even Alex is smart enough to know when someone is bad for business.

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Yeah.

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You know, when you can't get involved with somebody.

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Right.

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And it's them.

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Yeah.

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If there's anything, Alex Jones is smart enough to know, it's when somebody is bad for business.

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And that's crazy because Steve Puchenik is still coming on.

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Well, even though he doesn't realize that he himself is also bad for business.

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Yeah.

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But even him just saying all these shootings are fake and stuff like that, like that's

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terrible for business.

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But somehow I got to keep him around.

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I've known him too long.

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Whereas I mean, this guy saying that it's good that gay people died in Orlando, like

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you can't keep that guy around.

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Even Alex knows that that's like.

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Conspiracy.

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OK.

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Faithful word Baptist.

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F.W.B.

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Whoa.

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Friends with benefits.

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All right.

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That's what he's all about.

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He's into that Ashton Kutcher movie.

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That's what he's all about.

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Loves it.

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Fair enough.

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Um, so, Jordan, this has been interesting.

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Difficult episode to summate.

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That's such a that's such a that's such a Dunning Kruger effect explanation perfectly.

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Like that guy is smart enough to realize that they're putting out this dumb shit over

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and over and over again.

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And yet he's too stupid to realize that he is doing the same thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like you can't figure that next level out.

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Well, it's a lack of self-awareness because of how intensely pained he is.

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Yeah.

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You know, and I again, that's the piece of it that I empathize.

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It's easy to empathize with.

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But unfortunately, the end results are terrible.

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Right.

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And I look most cult leaders don't don't come from peaceful childhoods.

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So like, I don't know, at the end of the day, all I wanted to do here was take a little

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journey through one of Alex Jones's guests.

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Oh, and it turned out Russell Brand's interview was too boring.

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So this is what we got.

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Anyway, if you enjoyed the show, please check us out over at KnowledgeFight.com.

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I'll click on it and they'll be like, and that'll be the end of that.

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Yeah, that'd be great.

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They'd be like, no.

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Yeah.

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Then you won't be friends anymore.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Exactly. This is the number one, our show top banner from now on is number one way to

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lose friends.

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Yeah.

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I wouldn't be too surprised.

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Also so far on the, in our Facebook group, the go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.

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It does look like the people are enjoying the idea of doing a bracket of sound bites

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instead of a super long one.

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So I think I will do that.

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All right.

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So it looks like that is the way we're going to go.

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I apologize because there's like two people last time I checked that were, uh, anti, uh,

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that option.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll maybe make you guys a soundbite.

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Right.

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You guys should develop, uh, more expensive and complex weapons in order to ensure that

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the majority can't take over the voting process.

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That's what you got to do.

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Yeah.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first name caller.

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