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twist those dumb t comprehensive
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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.
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Andy and Kansas. Andy and Ch
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Stop it. Andy and Chan. Andy and Chan.
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It's time to pray. Andy and Chan.
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You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room. Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight dot com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes.
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I like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan.
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Quick question for you. What's up?
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What's your Brights spot today, buddy?
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Well, I think, you know, the end of the month is halfway here.
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And we are in the Ides.
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And next month, things might be different.
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It's possible. But March, I got to go first.
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It's always you in March.
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So that's the tradition and I'm going to stick to it.
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And this Brights spot that I have
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is a little bit of a correction.
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I think that I was a little bit harsh on Survivor.
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Okay. All right. We're back at it.
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I think there's, you know, Jeff Probst's rapping
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was a disaster and I think it's unforgivable.
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And I will, as I was editing that episode,
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I heard myself say it and I immediately was like,
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that didn't happen.
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I replayed the beginning of the episode to make sure.
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I had, oof, so bad. It really did happen.
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It did. It did. Oh my God.
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But look, there's some really fun people on this season.
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I really enjoy a fair amount of this cast.
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Yeah. I love Z and Q again.
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He's great. Yeah.
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He is a chaotic player.
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His strategies are all over the place.
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No one would ever think to do the things he's doing.
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And I enjoy it. He's great.
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Has anybody made any big moves?
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Has anybody come up with an overarching strategy
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and they're like, hey, we've got a whole thing
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and we're ready to take it on? Or is it all just kind of ...
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Is everybody kind of still doing eighth grade dance
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like we're waiting to find out
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who's partnering up kind of situation?
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At the beginning, we're only a couple episodes in.
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At the beginning, big moves are kind of hard to make
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because the stakes are really survival,
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make it to the merge. The merge is really where-
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That's where the big moves happen.
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Yeah. Gotcha.
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I think that's where you're going to find
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the impressive flashy gameplay.
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Gotcha.
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But I think people have ...
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It's all about restricting information at the beginning.
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Okay. All right.
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There's in-group, out-group kind of stuff.
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Sure, sure. That's the beginning of the clicks.
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Yeah. You want to have your numbers in the tribe.
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Right.
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Seven people you want four.
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Got it.
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So choosing who you're giving information to
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and sharing stuff with and keeping things from,
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those are the moves that people make at the beginning.
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All right. All right.
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And I think there's some bold choices.
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Okay.
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But not much. Not much.
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Eh.
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One sent the Billie Eilish boomerang idol to Aubrey,
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which was a big choice.
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That's a big move in theory.
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Okay.
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But it might not turn into anything.
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Yeah. I just ...
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Those idols really got to pay off.
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At least one of them has to pay off
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with the boomerang aspect.
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Otherwise, that's going to be really frustrating for me.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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If none of them ... If they all just get used,
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like even just regular idols, that's still bullshit.
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Yeah. There's no boomerang aspect
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to it that it just hit a tree or something.
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One has to boomerang.
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Although, I will say this. Okay. Here's my positive.
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Okay. In the last episode,
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we learned that Mike White, the guy who made White Lotus-
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White Lotus. ... and School of Rock,
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he knows Ozzy from a restaurant in LA.
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That'll happen.
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So, Ozzy, the king of the water,
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who is the best swimmer in Survivor history-
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Right. ... and also did some porno.
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Sure. He also owns a restaurant
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that Mike White has gone to in Los Angeles
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and they're friends from that.
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Mike White is a Survivor superfan,
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so of course he was like, he owns a restaurant?
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Yeah. I'll go there.
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Yeah. All right.
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That's fun. That is fun.
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Anyway, what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is I discovered finally,
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after you having told me about them
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several times over the past few years,
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the live readings of Star Wars
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produced by the George Lucas talk show.
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Well, yeah, sure. Yes.
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Connor's not in all of them. Not in all of them.
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Watto's not in all of them.
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He does a pre-video for those who aren't aware of Connor.
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Now, Connor is in one heavily.
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True. He is in the Star Wars holiday special.
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And my friend, that is fucking dynamite.
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Yeah. I love that shit.
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Yeah. His spirit is in all of them.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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He is a main player in the holiday special.
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And no matter how many times I have seen it,
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I refuse to remember everything
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that happens in the holiday special.
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It's pretty crazy. I've seen it probably 10,
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maybe 12 times.
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It's where we met Boba Fett.
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Absolutely. Just ...
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And every time I'm like,
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well, this clearly didn't actually happen.
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This is like some sort of artifact
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that fell from a universe where Shazam ...
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You know what I'm saying?
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This has got to be a global hallucination
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because it can't be real.
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Nope. And it is.
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It is. It is uninterrupted,
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unsubtitled wookie speech for a long time.
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Yeah. Amazing.
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Yeah. That's one of the fun things
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about it being a script reading is there's the ...
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Yeah. I was like ...
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There's authorial intent that comes through.
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Oh, is that what they were saying?
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How about that? I thought itchy was just a grump.
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Yeah. There's also ...
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There's some things that are through lines
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of those live readings that are really fun.
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Like the person playing R2D2 with the beeps and boops.
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Jojo Ginn. Yeah. So good.
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And she gets better over time.
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It's clear that she cares.
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Yeah. But there's a thousand little fun things about those.
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Like Vic Michaelis is amazing.
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Sure. Everybody's great.
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Matt Gourley is all across the board.
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Fantastic. Just truly great.
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You could just tell that he was like,
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I really think I can nail this Trade Federation voice.
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Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just there was a way to go,
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and it was a bad way. And then there's another way to go,
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and it's doing a southern character,
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and that is the correct way.
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So now we have once again spoken so highly of something
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that the George Lucas talk show people are involved with and ...
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Never ... Never going to speak to us.
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No.
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What you going to do? Oh, well. Keep up the good work, guys.
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Yep.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Alex is obviously having a tough time with the Iran war.
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Sure. Sure.
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We'll see what's up with that.
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All right.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello
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to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, a tiny doe. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, if it bleeds, we can make a supplement out of it.
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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And I've been a secret wonk for two years,
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and I can't stay silent anymore.
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Haribo is pronounced quokka.
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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a technocratic that makes sense.
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So thank you so much to abracadabra boomshockaday.
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I'm Dan Friesen, and I'm back like a vertebrae.
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I come with a hat full of tricks,
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trunk full of methylene blue, car full of documents.
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Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser. Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Jar Jar Binks didn't have a Caribbean accent
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in the live reading now, did he?
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He did not. He did not.
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Wise to keep that away from him.
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Yeah.
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But man, Daffy Duck is a good voice.
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That's a good choice.
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I read that technocrat name as if it was going to all rhyme
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because the chakaday and vertebrae tricked me
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into thinking it all was going to have an A, B.
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I believe it's a Juggalo reference.
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Oh, whoop whoop.
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Yes, whoop whoop. I believe we should be whoop whooping.
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I apologize if I didn't get that.
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I didn't get it.
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I don't like their music.
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I'm not a big musical Juggalo fan.
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I'm more of a community guy.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, Alex has been struggling in the present day.
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True.
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There's a lot of stuff that's happening
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and the people he likes are doing things
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that are indefensible in terms of his ideology.
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Sure.
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And it pains me that we're going to have to keep
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talking about it.
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Oh my God. Oh my God. What's that?
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Oh my God. Is that the past? Oh my God.
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It's the past. We're going to the past.
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All right. Thank God.
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We're going to be talking about 3.16, March 16th, 2006.
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All right. Stone Cold Steve Austin day in the past.
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Yes. And get this.
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What? This episode is coming out
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on 3.16, 2026, the 20th anniversary of the episode
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that we're listening to on this show.
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And that's why I did the God's Break.
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Well, you got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely. It's worth it. It's worth the pageantry.
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Layers. Yeah.
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20 years. Yeah.
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Same day. Like if you were folding time,
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this would be the moment where the things touch.
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Yeah. Maybe this-
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Oh my God. No.
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The things I've touched.
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I wonder if this was, if we were doing a bad movie,
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this would be the moment where we transport ourselves
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back into a, what is it? 13 going on 30 situation.
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Is that what I'm doing?
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Oh my God.
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It's a 13 going on 30 situation.
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They have created a singularity. Oh my God.
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This is a time paradox.
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Man, I got to be Jamie Lee Curtis in this one, I think.
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I'll be Jim Ross. Okay.
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We're back on in 2006. Sure.
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316. All right.
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And we've been dealing with a fair amount of
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Solobedon Milosevic-
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We've had, yeah. In the past.
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Yeah. And I will tell you that this episode
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has nothing to do with him.
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It's a Fastedon Milosevic.
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Yes. We are pastedon Milosevic.
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All right. Nice.
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But we do start with a clip of Alex saying something
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that he would not want to take responsibility for
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in the present. Uh-oh.
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Belarus says US planned school bombings on election day.
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Are we to believe this?
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The Russians wrote the modern book on doing this.
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And so, would the United States be involved in a bombing?
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Yes, certainly.
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To blame it on enemies, but Russia likes to do it too.
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The Belarusians, I guess you could call them,
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have been known to do it.
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I mean, who doesn't really?
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So, we'll have to research this
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and hindsight normally will let us learn if it's the case,
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but we're not sure right now,
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but I will get into this article out of Moscow on this.
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So yeah, the Russians, they like to false flag bomb stuff.
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Yeah.
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That wasn't supposed to be happening in 2006.
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I do appreciate the hindsight normally allows us
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to do something because that's a loaded concept.
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The hindsight in 2006, and now we're in that,
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like in hindsight, hindsight doesn't do shit.
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No, it turns out it doesn't.
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Yeah, it's very useless.
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No, it allows you to look at this and be like, huh.
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How about that?
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Yeah, you're lying.
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What about that hindsight?
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So, I thought like, okay, that's cool.
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That's certainly a different take
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than Alex has in the present day.
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Sure.
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Let's hear about some more geopolitics.
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Yeah, I like it.
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But instead, Alex gets real local.
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Okay.
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And wants to talk about a band.
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Well, today's broadcast is gonna be a little bit different.
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We'll cover all the normal state,
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most government sponsored terror,
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the new world order, the satanic elite,
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the real world that surrounds us.
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But Cruiserweight, who I'm a big fan of,
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I played part of one of their songs yesterday,
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won a big award at the Austin Awards last night.
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And I'd incidentally gotten some complaints
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that I hadn't aired the whole thing by listeners.
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So we'll play the whole song later in this hour
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that I never got to yesterday.
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We just played about two minutes of it.
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And also you'll get my review
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of the dystopic science fiction, Philip K. Dick novel.
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Yes.
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For the first time made into a full length feature
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rotoscoped Hollywood production
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up on the big silver screen.
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I had a chance to go watch it last night at a sneak peek.
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It won't be out till July.
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And I was just blown away.
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I mean, it is avant-garde.
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What is avant-garde?
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New, something new before it's time.
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Oh, so now we know what avant-garde means
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when Alex calls all the Nazis that.
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Yeah.
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So that's good to keep in our back pocket.
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Before their time.
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Coming, coming down the pipeline
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is another way of saying that.
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I'm helping them down the pipeline.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So there's absolutely zero chance
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that Alex likes this band Cruiserweight.
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They're a local Austin standout pop punk band
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that's won the Austin Award in that category
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for the past few years.
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They're in that mid 2000 sweet spot
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where they're wildly successful, but also obscure.
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Where they've had songs and video games
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that have been open for bands like New Found Glory,
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but they aren't New Found Glory.
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Right.
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They put out an album in 2005 called Silent Weaponry,
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which I think could be a reference
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to Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
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Right.
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The fake document that Bill Cooper published
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in Behold a Pale Horse, and Alex has also treated as real.
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Right.
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The song Alex is gonna play is called Operation Eyes Shut,
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which does have some early 2000s Infowars vibes.
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So while I don't think that Alex is into this pop punk band,
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I wouldn't be surprised if their manager reached out to him
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and wanted him to play the song.
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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I could see that connection being made,
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but he's not out there checking out the pop punk scene.
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I would be, I mean, and I'll say this,
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I don't think there are a lot of pop punk people
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going to the bunkers where the fans of Alex Jones
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at this time might be living.
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Playing house shows in the redouts.
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Man, those were the days when you would have to go
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about 20, 30 feet underground to play a house show
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with all those little bunk beds.
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There's a bar of MREs. Canned foods.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Would you like a cocktail of beans?
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Who wants to buy merch?
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It's also strange to hear Alex talking about a scanner
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darkly and not immediately mentioning that he's in it.
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That he's in it.
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I mean, why did he get to see a sneak peek of it?
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Is it because there was a sneak peek available
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or is it because maybe he was in some way
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associated with the fucking film?
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I mean, it is gonna come up,
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but it was shocking to me
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that it doesn't come up immediately.
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Right.
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Pretty close to immediately.
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It's got government sponsored chair in it.
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If you closely follow what's happening,
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the government in conjunction with private corporations
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ships in the drugs.
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The police state is a mechanized control grid
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to control the population.
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And basically it is put out by Warner Independent
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and behind the scenes,
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it's been quite a task to get this through.
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But it is definitely anti-New World Order.
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It's got some of the biggest stars in Hollywood in it.
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And believe me, they're anti-New World Order.
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It's a labor of love.
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You know, Keanu Reeves makes around $50 million
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for his movies.
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He made 200 million on his last two Matrix films.
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And he made, what does it say?
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He was paid $70,000 to make this film
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for people that shoot their mouths off and go,
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oh, it's Hollywood establishment.
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This film would normally cost about 80 million
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to make conservatively.
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You can go read major industry publications
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that are reporting that.
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Was made for 8.9 million
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with an original budget of 6.9 million.
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Anyways, that, my big review of it,
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and of course I haven't really mentioned
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or talked about in the last review we did.
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And then I'd only seen it in the studio there
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on a TV screen, parts of it.
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My first review didn't even mention that I'm in the film
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or consulted on the film.
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And I'm just so honored that I was able
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to be part of this film.
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That my friend Rick Linkletter called me
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and included me in it.
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And that the producer Tommy Palotta did.
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And of course one of the other producers is George Clooney
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who he knows as the anti New World Order.
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Okay, so Alex is trying to sound like
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he basically co-directed this movie,
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which he really just had a cameo in it.
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In 2017, Vice interviewed Richard Linkletter
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about how he feels about having worked with Alex,
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which never happened again after a scanner darkly.
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Weird.
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His response, quote, Alex was just this guy
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on public access TV.
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I liked his energy, but he was kind of a joke.
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I got to know him a little bit because he was in Waking Life
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and scanner doing some weird version of himself
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in both cases.
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He's not really an actor, so I haven't really talked
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to him since the Obama years.
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I guess there's a part of me now that's surprised
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because he never really seemed like that to me.
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I can't say he's not a good manipulator.
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I can't say I've really known him all these years.
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Really bizarre.
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He's asked about how he first met Alex,
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and he says, quote, on Waking Life,
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he came in and seen my movie Slacker.
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We started talking about a part,
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so I worked up a little part for him.
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He was more fun when it was the Bush era.
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Put it like that.
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When he was anti that, I was like, yeah.
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And then I was like, oh, you're just anti everybody.
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But then he's pro somebody for the first time,
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which is like, big choice, Alex.
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We'll see how that shakes out long term.
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Ooh, hindsight.
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I haven't spoke to him in years, though.
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Hindsight is, whoo.
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In that and other interviews,
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Linklater makes clear that Alex was someone
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who was known in Austin and they all laughed at.
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He was funny, not somebody to be taken seriously,
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who or who was an important consultant in Linklater's films.
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Ethan Hawke is an important collaborator
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with Linklater throughout his career creatively.
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Alex is not.
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Also, it's funny to hear that Alex thinks
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that George Clooney is anti New World Order at this point
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because he becomes a huge globalist later.
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Yeah.
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And I was telling you, I just watched Hail Caesar.
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Yeah.
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And it's funny because George Clooney is a communist.
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Yeah.
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Or he becomes seduced by the communists in that.
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And it's funny to think what Alex would take on that.
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Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of shifting allegiances
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in the past 20 years.
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That Linklater, like, ah, he was more fun at the Bush years
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is maybe the best way of describing it.
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Like, as long as he's in a contained place,
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if you have stuff in a box and you don't let Pandora near it,
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it's a perfectly serviceable box.
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Yeah, it's easier to be tricked back then.
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Yeah.
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He tricked people.
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It was fun.
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Shouldn't have let it open.
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Got to keep that box closed, my man.
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Yep.
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So Alex is hitting on all the major important, very serious
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issues of the day.
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Like an episode of Boston Legal.
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Hell yeah.
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Boston Legal has put out a lot of pro New World Order
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stuff in the past.
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And what they're having to do now is put out some
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anti New World Order stuff or lose all credibility.
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That's what TV's having to do.
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24 does it.
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It's Boston Legal.
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TV shows do it.
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You lose all credibility.
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There's a lot of the writers and people who are-
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They would put Brett Shuttner.
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... productions.
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They're not bad people themselves.
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They're just told this is the angle we want.
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This is what the quote advertisers want.
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This is what we're doing.
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Not talk to a lot of these people.
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They want to tell the truth.
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They want to get the word out.
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And so more and more of it is slipping out.
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Here's a little five minute piece from Boston Legal.
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Five minutes of Boston Legal?
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... twist at the end, which is part of the false paradigm.
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So let's roll that.
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Here it is.
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Not counting commercials.
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Wait, is it an hour long show or a half hour?
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I feel like it was a half hour.
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I don't know.
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If it was an hour, then maybe it's less percentage
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of the whole show.
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Right.
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Alex is playing like a scene.
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Yeah, it's basically a quarter.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Man.
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I think it's crazy how focused on pop culture
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he is in this episode in particular.
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Like everything is a movie.
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This band Cruiserweight.
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Boston Legal is, it seems so trivial.
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If it were possible, and you know what?
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Maybe we're thinking of it the wrong way.
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Maybe this is a problem of focus.
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Maybe if we all focused hard enough on Boston Legal,
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that would be the domino that sets the rest.
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The problem is we're focusing on too many different shows.
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Some people are on Boston Legal,
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some people are on a cooking show.
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No.
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You know, like it's all about the legal.
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If you make Boston Legal the most anti New World Order show
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in the world, like perfect according to Alex,
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he's just gonna start complaining
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about another procedural.
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Yeah, that is true.
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It's just gonna be like, law and order sucks.
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It's almost like he prefers the complaining to the show.
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It's almost like maybe he doesn't even watch Boston Legal.
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Let's imagine that.
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Yeah.
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He's a big Boston Legal guy.
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You hate the law and you hate Boston.
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He owns every one of Shatner's spoken words albums.
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Fucking insane.
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Yeah, it is crazy.
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So anyway, let's get to some substance.
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All right.
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What's Bush up to?
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What is Bush up to?
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And there's a really scary report here
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where Bush signed a bill that hadn't been passed.
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Not only is Bush saying that if you don't pass a law,
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like the Patriot Act expansion,
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I will just enforce it without having a law.
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That's called lawlessness.
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And when a leader engages in lawlessness,
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it's called despotism.
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It's called a tyrant tyranny.
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A tyrant carries out a tyranny.
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They carry it out upon the population,
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the serfs, the slaves.
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And we've got him at the signing ceremonies
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where he signs bills and then says,
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well, the bill says this,
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but I'm ordering the executive with my statement,
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speaking like Zeus or like Ramses or something.
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By decree, right?
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And then he says, well, this is what we're actually
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going to do with this.
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And there's lawyers there all writing it down.
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Boston legal lawyers.
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So all of this is pretty clear.
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Bush is a despot for doing a thing
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and Trump is a great leader for doing the same thing.
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Alex was pretty concerned with executive power in 2006,
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which looks a little silly in hindsight.
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Yep.
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This situation with Bush signing a bill that hadn't passed
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isn't exactly like what it sounds like
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in Alex's telling of it,
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but it is a bit of a mess.
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This has to do with the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005,
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which passed in both the House and Senate,
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and then was signed into law by Bush.
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However, democratic representative Henry Waxman
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later pointed out that the version of the bill
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that was passed in the House was different
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from the one that was passed in the Senate.
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The Senate had passed a version of the bill
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that only required Medicare to pay for patients
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to have access to medical equipment for 13 months,
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as opposed to the House version that had it at 36 months.
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Waxman essentially argued that the House had debated
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and were prepared to vote on what they believed
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was a version of the bill
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that offered patients more Medicare benefits,
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and then at the last minute,
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the bill was changed to match the Senate version.
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It's not so much an allegation
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that Bush is signing non-existent bills.
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It's more that a democratic representative
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is accusing the GOP-controlled Congress
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of not following the rules
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about altering bills before votes.
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So I think Alex doesn't know the difference,
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or he's just skimming ahead lying.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, the...
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It's so interesting.
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It's so interesting, the idea of like,
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should they have treated it with the same urgency
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that Alex is lying that they should treat it with?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like, in terms of the Republicans
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are breaking the rules of Congress,
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maybe we should have treated that like,
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that is Trump right now.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like, if we overreacted early,
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would that have kept us from being where we are right now?
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Well, lawsuits were filed over this.
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And I don't know if it was actually changed,
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like right before the vote or whatever on it.
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This is what Waxman is alleging.
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But I don't know from like,
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if it was in fact a sweep,
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then yeah, maybe they should have,
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maybe you should have treated it with the urgency.
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But if that's not the case,
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then it is just someone making the allegation
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that this was true.
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So, if you act with the urgency and it is hyped,
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then you make a mistake.
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Yeah, I mean, I suppose tactically then
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what should have happened,
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or like maybe what would have been most effective
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is when they caught him on a thing,
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like a real thing that they got him dead to rights,
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they just way overkill it.
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Just go so far overboard because hey, I got you.
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There's nothing you can do about that.
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Yeah. Right?
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No, I think, yeah.
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The point that I'll agree with is the,
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what Alex even said in 2006,
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is that if you don't punish the executive,
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then you end up deteriorating what is allowed
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to be done without punishment.
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I agree with that.
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The issue when you say like over respond to things
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when you're dead to rights,
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I think that what we've seen is that people
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will make it appear that somebody is dead to rights
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to something in order to get you to have that overreaction.
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So once you set the standard of this is what will cause
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the overreaction, people will change
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like what it means to be dead to rights.
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They do like to lie about stuff.
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I have known that with people.
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So that gets dangerous.
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They like to try and manipulate things to get their way.
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That's crazy how that works.
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I don't know what the right answer is.
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Even about 2006.
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It would be easy in hindsight
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if it were easy in the present.
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Sure. Yeah.
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So you know what is clear though?
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I mean, we can all agree on this.
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Posers suck.
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They do suck.
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Fuck posers.
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Everybody out there posing.
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Stop posing.
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Stop posing.
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We didn't stop it.
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We didn't stop that.
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Alex is not a poser.
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Oh.
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I mean, frankly, I look down on people
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that are not genuine to begin with.
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I'm not a poser.
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He poses.
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I don't have time to pose.
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I'm so sick of posers and all their ilk.
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Posers aren't just posing for the public.
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They're posing for themselves,
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their own little mental vision of themselves.
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He says into a mirror.
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I'm digressing here.
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I just can't handle it anymore.
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Everything is getting so nuts.
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It's getting crazier and crazier and crazier
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and crazier and crazier and crazier and crazier.
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And I know they're doing it on purpose to wear us out.
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That's why they'll announce they're going to
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attack Iran this month for sure.
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And they won't do it for six months a year,
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probably next March.
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Just like Iraq.
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They just psychopathic the same thing over and over again.
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They know that just about hearing,
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we're going to attack.
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We're going to attack.
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A lot of us at a sick level on our own subconscious psyches,
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we're now expecting it.
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Okay, get it over with.
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And I've been here for a year hearing about this.
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And so I expect it to happen.
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So when it happens at a subconscious level,
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we're going to want it to happen.
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Just because they've built up the suspense.
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They play us like a fiddle.
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Poser.
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They play us like a fiddle.
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He says, echoing throughout time.
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It's weird.
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No, it's not.
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It's the opposite of weird.
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Yeah, that is what we expect.
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That is exactly what is expected.
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That is why we are here.
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Because he could say that and people would go,
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that sounds right.
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Right, it's why Linklater would cast him in his movies.
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It's because this sounds good.
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These fucking posers.
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No, this guy sounds good.
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He is posing.
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That is the problem.
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Yep.
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That is, it's the ultimate bluff.
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It's the poser bluff.
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I hate posers, he says, posing.
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Like, it's amazing.
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Oh, these evil people are going to attack Iran.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to talk myself into.
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Wow.
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So Alex complained some more about the posers.
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And I don't think what he's talking about is posers.
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I think what he's talking about is people
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who take on an identity that has to do
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with like cultural groups.
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Right.
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Like maybe you're into rock.
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Like, anybody who's not into whiteness
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is posing by pretending to be into rap
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or hip hop or something when in reality
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you should be into being white.
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That's kind of what it feels like.
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Okay.
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And I'm dumbfounded.
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I am thunderstruck.
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I am, I feel like I've been hit by a bolt of lightning.
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I mean, it just,
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I'm living
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on the dark side of the moon or something.
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A lot of song titles.
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I see the mind control zombies everywhere.
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Really the telltale sign is the pose is what I call it.
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You see these people, these adults,
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you got the cowboy type and the hippie type
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and the yuppie type and the trendy types
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and all the other types.
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And they're all like, like, like dress up.
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Like, you know, six year olds like to dress up
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like pirates or dress up like astronauts
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or army or cowboys and Indians.
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And you go out in the backyard
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and you're in an imaginary world.
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And I've caught myself in years past
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when I was a kid doing this and I figured out,
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Hey, that's not the real world.
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You know, I mean, we propagandize ourselves.
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You know, we rationalize bad things we do.
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That's posing when you rationalize something
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you're lying to yourself so much.
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I just see it, mesmerized populations.
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Who've taken on false identities that the media hung out.
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You know, the media puts out a buffet of lies for you
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and all these different selections
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and all these different flavors
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and all these different ideas.
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And they land out there for you.
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And they hope you come and select one of the identities
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they put out for you through television,
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through the sitcoms, the dramas, the theater,
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because we are social creatures.
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We emulate the leaders.
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We idolize.
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We fashion ourselves after someone.
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You're supposed to fashion yourself after your father,
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your mother, your aunt, your uncle.
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You're supposed to fashion yourself after heroes
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that have fought against overwhelming odds.
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And that was the classical heroes.
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The old man who worked his whole life
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to provide for his parents died.
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You know, that's the heroes.
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That's what you're supposed to fashion yourself after.
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Not some gang member-ish, giggling, non-white person.
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A movie with their punked out clothes
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hanging down around their ankles.
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Not some punked out population that just thinks
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that it's all just, pick some genre
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that you're going to be part of
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and then go out there and emulate it.
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And then you're never really truly alive.
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And you talk to these people who are posing
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and they just, they aren't even alive.
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They aren't even real.
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And I'm sick of it.
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I want people to begin by realizing
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that they're lying to themselves.
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That would be good, Alex.
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That would be a nice little start.
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So there's obviously like some kind of racial component
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to this.
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Feels like it.
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It seems to veer into like, why your pants say it?
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Yep, feels very, the black youths are up to a thing again.
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That's some of the territory that this is in.
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But then even beyond that, it also has the same feeling
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as like that, like rural people out there going to a rodeo.
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Just let people enjoy their lives, Alex.
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So are all of those things poses?
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Like the idea of a poser.
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Cowboy, a hippie.
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Right, right.
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But like the poser is the person who goes to the group
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under false pre-senses.
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They are not that person.
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They're lying to get into the group.
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But they're all real hippies.
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But there have to be real hippies for that group to exist.
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Otherwise it's a group of posers,
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in which case they all belong there together.
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Yeah, it then becomes an authentic group.
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Exactly.
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Just of a second order.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So in reality, what Alex is describing is he doesn't like
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people who aren't exactly him.
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And his problem with him is he doesn't like them.
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He doesn't like groups that aren't homogenous.
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Yeah, very specifically.
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Who don't belong in those groups going into those groups.
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Conservatively homogenous groups.
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And when the sun goes down, let's not worry about it.
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I do like how he can see that someone taking on the persona
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of a hippie or a cowboy, that kind of stuff,
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like, hey, you're doing that falsely.
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But he doesn't see Crusader against the New World Order guy
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who gets visions from God as being an identity
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that he takes on posingly.
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I mean, hey, you could even take it a little bit,
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step back and just go, he's posing as Rush Limbaugh
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for a good long time.
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He's posing as a country boy who can skin a buck
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and run a trot line and do his little wah wah voice.
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Yeah, it's all fucking posing.
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Yeah, he's a poser.
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So he is, but one thing he's not is a Bible thumper.
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Pause.
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Pause.
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I know what you call a Bible thumper.
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I'm not really a Pharisee.
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I don't get around telling everybody about the beams
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in their own eyes, because I got plenty of beams of my own.
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But I do love God and I'm a Christian, I don't hide that.
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But this is a news program.
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But all over the country, we have had Christians
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being arrested for their speech, arrested for protesting,
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arrested for demonstrating,
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not even outside abortion clinics,
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but just out on the streets of major American cities.
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And we've had liberals getting arrested with a T-shirt
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saying I'm against the war.
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And there's 500 unpermitted pro-Bush people,
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but the demonstrator that's anti-Bush goes to jail.
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This isn't a true description of Alex,
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but it's exactly what he needs people to believe he is
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in order for his shit to have any chance of success.
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Alex isn't just a Bible thumper.
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He's an extreme right-wing Christian fundamentalist.
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He wants to use the allure of conservative politics
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and pretending to be interested in the Constitution
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as a Trojan horse to evangelize to the audience
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about his very bizarre and white-identity-laden version
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of Christianity, which he wants to be
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the organizing principle of the world.
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He believes that the devil is running the globalists,
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and the only way to defeat them is if the US
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effectively becomes a theocracy,
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where the secular laws are based on his religious beliefs.
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That's what he's evolved into.
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And if he were the person he claims to be here in 2006,
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he would have no interest in becoming what he's become.
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If this were a sincere description of his agenda
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and who he is, then Alex would have resisted the call
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to become a demagogue that he's become, quite clearly,
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because he would have known that there was a plank
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in his own eye and that he was an imperfect person.
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He wouldn't become this.
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It's so important at this point in his career
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to pretend that he gives a shit
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about the anti-Bush protesters on the left,
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because if he isn't able to trick them
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into thinking that he's on their side,
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then his show is dead in the water.
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He's destined to just be another Bill Cooper,
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who has an impact on the underground culture,
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but he never gets rich or influential
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in a way that he gets to enjoy before he dies.
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The stuff with Linklater is a perfect encapsulation of that.
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If Linklater understood who Alex was and what he was about,
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he never would have cast him in either of those movies,
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and Alex definitely knows that.
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It's why Linklater said,
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I can't say he's not a good manipulator,
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because he was manipulating people
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into thinking that he's funny and like,
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oh yeah, harmless, kinda goofy, dumb shit yelling
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when he's actually Trojan horsing really extreme politics.
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Yep, and if you don't fall for that form of manipulation
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where he's fun and interesting,
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he'll go on a show and say he'll gut you like a pig
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in a different form of manipulation
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that'll somehow get you to invite him back on your show,
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where suddenly you'll be manipulated again
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into thinking that he's a very funny
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and fun friend to be around.
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And then your hippie friend will view him later.
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And then Duncan'll fucking show up like an asshole.
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Speaking of which, I wanna correct something slightly
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from that Duncan Trossall episode.
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I mentioned that Daria emailed us,
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and I think I got the year wrong on that.
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I think it was brought to my attention
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that that might have been earlier than,
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years blur together.
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Who cares?
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Yeah, there are, it's, yeah.
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But I didn't wanna give people the impression
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that there was like.
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It wasn't like a week after we started.
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No, but it was earlier than it should have been.
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It was way earlier than it should have been.
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Yeah.
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And it would have been enough to fuck us up.
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Yep. Yep.
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So Alex, when he's saying this stuff about
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he's not a Bible thumper, he's not,
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it's in service.
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He's lying, when he's lying about these things.
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Oh yes, it is a lie.
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But it is also in service of leading up to a guest
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that he's gonna have.
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Gotcha.
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Which is a dude who got fired from his radio show.
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Uh oh.
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Because he criticized Israel.
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Uh oh.
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And I predict that our guest that we've got on
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with us right now is gonna be blessed
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after he's been punished for free speech.
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And I don't attack Israel.
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You know, I get criticized for not even being neutral on it,
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but just saying, you know, that, well, I mean,
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Israel could have a state if it wasn't so anti-Christian,
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anti-Muslim, and anti-Jew.
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I mean, it's atheist.
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The Labor Zionists funded Hitler.
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That's now public.
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So I get criticized for not bashing Israel.
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But Christian radio host fired for criticizing Israel,
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20 year host, Dale Crowley, with high ratings,
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told you can't talk about that.
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Michael Collins Piper, American Free Press,
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the un-American thought police operating on American soil
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have struck once again this time.
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Their victim is veteran Christian evangelist,
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Dale Crowley Jr.
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So Alex has gassed as this guy named Dale Crowley,
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and he wasn't fired for talking about Israel.
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He had a show called Focus on Israel,
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which the station was no longer interested in airing.
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It wasn't like he was a normal old Christian talk show host
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who one day decided he was gonna start complaining
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about Israel, and then the station shut him down.
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It was more of a thing where his show
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isn't what they want to dare anymore.
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And honestly, he brings up, like, they talk to him,
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and he's like, I wasn't getting paid anything for it.
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It's like a local radio show.
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Public access.
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So they just were like, hey, don't show up anymore.
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You're fine.
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You were getting a little bit weird.
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And they were like, we didn't even pay your gas
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to get here, we're saving you money
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by keeping you from coming to the radio station.
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It's like volunteer community radio,
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and Alex is acting like, oh,
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it's the highest rated thing in the world.
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It might as well be like on Salem,
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or Westwood One, or whatever.
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Come on.
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Like the idea of not knowing the difference
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between talking about Israel and having a show called
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Focus on Israel.
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I even think that name could exist in a benign place,
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but we're gonna hear some things that this guy has to say,
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and I think that you get a pretty good sense
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of why you might not air his shit.
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So certain people are really invested
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in pushing the narrative as if you were fired
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because he dared to criticize Israel,
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and those people are Nazis.
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Alex is reading a story about this
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from the American Free Press,
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which is a flagrantly anti-Semitic outlet
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founded by white supremacist Willis Cardo.
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The writer of the piece Alex is reading
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is Michael Collins Piper,
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who is the former editor for the Liberty Lobby,
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and has a deep history of anti-Semitic slob.
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That said, Dale Crowley's not just a guy
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who criticized Israel either.
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He definitely was someone who engaged
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in a fair amount of anti-Semitic content,
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and viewed America as a country for Christians.
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So it makes sense that the American Free Press folks
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would wanna make the most out of him
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getting dropped by his station,
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except he didn't even get dropped by the station.
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He had a 15-minute show that he did on Saturdays,
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and then a weekly, like a weekday show.
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They were fine with his weekday show.
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It was just the Saturday one, they're like-
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The title being focused on Israel.
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That one is- That one specifically.
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You might be going a little bit far with this one.
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Right, right, right.
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We're not interested in that.
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Maybe just don't put it on the radio.
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You could keep it on the weekday show.
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And then they also were like,
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you can air your show, you just gotta record it in advance.
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We're just not letting you on a live mic.
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Wild. Yeah.
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Wild.
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So they have gone out of their way
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beyond what anybody would consider reasonable
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to keep this guy on the air spewing bullshit.
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Because he's done a local access
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public community radio show forever.
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It's like, let's not kick the old man out.
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Let's give him an option.
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He's a Nazi.
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What old man isn't a Nazi?
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A Nazi is fine if you're not on a live mic.
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I'm like, yeah, I mean, hey, we can work with that.
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Oh man.
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I do appreciate those, like,
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when you can just sense that those guys back in the day
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would be like, ah, what?
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I hear something.
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I hear something in the world out there.
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There's something I can lie about.
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What is that hit?
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I can work with this.
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Yeah. 15 minutes?
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Oh, this guy was the crusader of justice and peace.
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He was just a normal, great kind of guy, Christian.
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He just wanted what's best for everyone.
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And then he dared to question Israel.
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And then they fired him for it.
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And just like if you have the courage to question things.
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The reason that that story is incredibly appealing
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to these folks like the American Free Press in the past
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is they want to appear like they're just questioning Israel
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and being critical of the government and shit
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when they are in fact anti-Semitic Nazis.
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Right.
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And they've also probably got some stuff
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where they've probably been fired from a bunch of jobs
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for the exact same reason.
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Well, I'm sure there's bitterness.
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Yeah, I bet there's a lot of bitterness among them.
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Yeah.
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They're angry, for sure.
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So Alex in the present day has really been trying
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to pretend that like, hey, Israel, AIPAC,
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that kind of stuff,
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it never really was that big of a deal for me.
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But now it is.
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Yeah.
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Because they have co-opted Trump's administration.
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I've changed.
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Right.
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Yes.
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Except, he seems to be saying a lot of the same shit
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in 2006.
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I don't know what triggered this decision.
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It could have been the White House, Homeland Security.
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I've been opposed to this Israel's war against Iraq
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for over three years now before it began.
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The Federal Communications Commission
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might have been pressured to talk about anti-Semitism
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and hate speech, which the program is not.
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I'm not a hateful person.
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I've broadcast 1,000 broadcasts to the Focus on Israel.
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It's a Bible study program.
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I close every broadcast with Romans 10.1.
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My heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel
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is that Israel will be saved.
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And the AIPAC people have got it banned in Israel
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to say that we want Jews to come to Jesus.
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And so now, buddy, you can't say it in Washington.
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Pretty soon, it will be greater Israel here.
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Well, that's exactly right.
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I've been coasting along here for 20 years.
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I thought I was untouchable.
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I thought if they left me alone for 20 years
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telling the truth on the subject of this-
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You're a canary in the coal mine, buddy.
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We're in the 11th hour, bastard.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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You're not supposed to believe this in 2006.
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We're gonna be, we're just, hey, listen,
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we're just gonna be part of greater Israel.
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What? Wow.
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That happened fast.
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Because this guy doesn't get to spend 15 minutes
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on a live mic?
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Are you saying that because he has to pre-record,
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that means we're about to become greater Israel?
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Well, it's evidence that this is a Zog.
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I mean, he is the canary in the coal mine.
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A very, very specific small canary
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in a non-existent coal mine.
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It's time to pray.
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It is time to pray.
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Yeah, I think that this is,
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he shouldn't have these takes in 2006
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if the way that he's acting in 2026 was sincere.
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But it's not.
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No.
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It's all bullshit.
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And that's cool.
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Yeah, I imagine if we really went down
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and diagrammed it day by day,
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there would be a corresponding ebb and flow
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that goes along with how far the furthest right is.
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As they ebb and flow about who's the most or whatever,
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he's maybe two steps below that,
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but in the same kind of wavelength.
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Yeah, I think so.
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And I think as it relates to Israel,
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his criticisms, I think,
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I don't know if they're ever valid.
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Right.
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But I think that Alex knows well enough
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that at this point in history, in around 2006,
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the only relevant people who were talking about Zogs
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and the Israeli influence on the government are Nazis.
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The people who are,
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there are people who are making valid points
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about the Israeli government, even in this time.
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But they are not super culturally relevant.
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The people who are the loudest
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are the people who are like maybe getting guns together
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and talking about how the US is gonna be greater Israel.
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He knows that.
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And he knew that then.
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He was signaling to those people
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because he wanted them to be part of his audience in 2006.
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In 2026, he also still knows this.
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So he doesn't wanna take responsibility
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for being involved in that world in the past
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that he knows was so dominated
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by Nazis and religious zealots.
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Right.
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Well, cause then he would have to admit
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that he's partially responsible
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for us being here in the first place.
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So there's really no reason for him
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to fake any kind of bullshit anyways
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and just be like, ha ha, I did it.
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Yeah.
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And I think that it's obviously,
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it is not fundamentally antisemitic
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to disagree with the state of Israel.
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Right.
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It's not antisemitic,
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but it does seem to attract a lot of antisemitic folks.
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Right.
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So you should take people based on how they sound.
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What are your complaints?
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Sure.
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How are you articulating these things?
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And I don't think these guys sound like antisemites at all.
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All you're trying to do is I guess continue what Jesus
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and of course people like up on the mountain Moses said.
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Well, that's exactly right.
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And Jesus got in trouble.
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My Habib Shiber said to me many times,
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if Jesus had dealt with the Jews of his day,
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like Jerry Falwell deals with the Jews today,
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never would have been crucified.
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Oh boy.
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So we're right where we were in New Testament times, Alex.
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That's what it's all about.
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It's about a bunch of Satanists in control
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and Jesus trying to overturn it.
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It's the same thing today.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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So that sounds bad.
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So if I understand correctly,
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if Jesus had oppressed and subjugated the Jews,
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well, that would have done it.
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I don't think that this comes off
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as anything other than antisemitic.
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Yeah, that's pretty antisemitic.
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It has not much to do with governmental criticism,
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even cultural criticisms, largely.
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It is treated, he's using Satanists as a proxy for Jews.
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Yeah.
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And that's, you know,
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that's what the American free press might like.
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Anyway, Dale sucks.
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Yep.
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What has happened to Christians in America?
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What's happened to Christendom?
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A lot of it, Alex, is a consequence
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of Scofield dispensationalism.
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I'm sorry?
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When Scofield wrote his notes,
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he did his best to exalt Israel, put Israel first.
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He even put Israel above the church.
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Read his notes in the New Testament,
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many times he denigrates the church, the body of Christ,
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and exalts Israel.
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He never has anything bad to say about it.
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And this Scofield Bible,
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this Scofield dispensationalism has influenced
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the church of Jesus Christ around the world
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to exalt Israel above even the church,
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the body of Jesus Christ.
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Well, I mean, let me just say something here
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that's important.
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Five, six years ago, I wouldn't bash Israel.
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I'd say, leave Israel alone, nothing against Israel.
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I knew that Israel had been involved in a lot of bad things,
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but you know, all these countries are corrupt.
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But if I didn't worship everything they did,
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like selling nuclear weapons components to Iran,
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or selling our missile secrets
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and F-16 fighter secrets to communist China,
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I would get a call up going, my guest I'd had on,
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you listen to me, Alex, you're gonna go to hell
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if you criticize anything they do.
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And I go, and I went, wait a minute,
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I don't claim to be a Bible expert,
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but I sat through a lot of Bible study when I was,
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you know, in Sunday school,
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every prophet came and criticized,
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and God would judge Israel with foreign nations
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in captivity, and Jesus criticized what Israel was doing.
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And I mean, isn't that the,
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I don't understand what you're saying.
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They're like, you don't say a word, you worship Israel.
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So really we don't worship Jesus Christ,
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we worship Israel now.
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Yes, the God's chosen people myth,
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and as I say, it came out of Scofield dispensationalism.
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This is very out of sync with how Alex has tried
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to present his views on Israel in the present day.
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He tries to act like his concerns about Israel are new,
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but it seems like he had the same awareness
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and complaints in 2006,
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and is even engaging in the same rhetoric.
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Like five years ago, I didn't complain about them,
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but now I'm going to.
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Yeah, almost like some sort of holy war.
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Almost like some sort of broken record, too.
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Yeah, huh. It's crazy.
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So without getting too into the weeds,
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Scofield dispensationalism is a reference to the debate
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among Christian thinkers about how many dispensations
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there have been in the history of God's people.
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Basically, it's a discussion of whether there's been
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three or seven different status quos
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in terms of God's relationship with man.
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The dispensationalist school of thought grew massively
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in the early to mid 1900s,
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and has an outsized influence on evangelical churches,
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the burgeoning megachurch movement,
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and a lot of the end times Christian folks like Jim Baker.
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Scofield had commentaries on like revelation,
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and a lot of the people who have ideas
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about big fun prophecy,
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they come from a reading that has some reliance on Scofield.
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Gotcha.
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In the last few decades,
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the school of thought has lost a bit of steam
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to the more covenant based thinkers.
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And if you want to make it hyper simple,
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dispensationalists believe in a pre-Trib rapture,
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whereas folks like Alex and Dale
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believe in a post-Trib rapture.
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Dispensationalists believe that the Jews
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play an important role in the events
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that lead to the end times,
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whereas folks like Alex and Dale
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believe that this is making Christianity
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secondary to Judaism,
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where the fulfillment of their prophecy can't happen
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without the Jews making it happen, and that bothers them.
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Right.
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So that's a big part of like what's behind this
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schism that Dale is talking about,
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and what it means in terms of their actual belief.
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Yeah.
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You know, it brings something to mind,
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which is that I've never been in a situation
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where somebody's had like a proper name and then the Bible,
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and not had a really bad time afterwards.
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Especially if it's not new, standard, or King James.
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Yeah, if it's like Derek's Bible,
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I'm like, I am not going to have a good time.
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I don't want to talk to Derek about his Bible.
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I don't want to know what's going on in Derek's Bible.
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Oh, Scofield's despond said, I'm getting out of here.
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I'm getting out of here.
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You guys have fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't need any names in front of Bible.
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I think that scholarly conversation and shit about like,
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hey, this is a tradition and you know, this is blah, blah,
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blah.
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Sure.
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If you are angry about Scofield's dispensationalism.
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No good.
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I...
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If you've got elbow patches and a pipe, have fun.
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Yes.
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Go delight in yourself.
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If you've got a gun, go home.
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Do not.
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Yeah.
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So I think that Alex, like it's just, it's, I don't know.
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It's weird.
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It is weird.
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He, so in, in a recent episode,
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Yeah.
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I believe it was our last episode.
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Alex discussed the possibility that Jared Kushner is the
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Antichrist.
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Yes.
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And how a lot of people are trying to force God's hand.
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Sure.
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And bringing about the end times.
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It would be interesting if that's how it worked.
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Now, 20 years ago, Alex knew that this was impossible.
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Okay.
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Well, Scofield is dangerous.
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It's insidious and it is weakened.
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And the church is...
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Well didn't he come up with a whole rapture thing?
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Well, this is all related to Israel.
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He said, if we help the Jews get back to Palestine,
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then we can hasten the coming of Christ and the rapture will
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take place and remove us all.
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Yeah. That's right.
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Man can make God do things.
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That's right.
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My friend, Grace Haussel called it forcing God's hand.
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She wrote a book and that was the title of the book.
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Many of your listeners have it, I'm sure.
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Forcing God's hand, making God hurry something up
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that we want to see hurried up.
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Well, that's what the devil did
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that got him thrown out of heaven.
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Is it?
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True.
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True.
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Is that what the devil did?
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Yeah. Something like that.
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Something like that.
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But yeah, Alex seems to be coming from a place
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where you can't do that.
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Can't do that.
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You can't force God to do something.
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I mean, it would be, it would definitely change,
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I think a lot of people's fundamental relationship with God.
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If they knew that like,
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as long as enough of us get together,
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that dude can't do shit to us.
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You know?
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Like fucking, oh, you want to wait a couple of years?
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Surprise, tomorrow.
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But like, if you look at the way that Alex is engaged
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with it in the present and a lot of like, you know,
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the implications of things he says,
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you don't even need to get a group of people together.
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One person could subvert God.
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Feels very easy.
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Feels very simple at this point in time.
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God has to always be playing defense against us.
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It is a very strange point of view to have on God.
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Yeah.
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Of like, hey, don't be stupid.
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Of course we can get him to do shit.
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Oh, okay.
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That's not cool.
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Anyway, some Jews are not Jews, apparently.
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That's always a good start to a conversation.
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Yeah.
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What makes me mad is I never even criticized Israel
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and then I criticized 9-11 and the ADL attacks me.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they want a fight.
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They want to claim they represent all Jews and they don't.
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They don't know.
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You know, all the Jewish people I know
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who are my friends are great people.
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And then you sit there and you see these, you know,
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these folks from Hisaria, these European folks,
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they're not even really Jews to begin with.
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They're Nazi Jews, yeah.
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Yeah, and they're busy microwaving the Sephardi Jews.
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God!
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And they're thinking about killing all those Jewish kids
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and I'm back because I don't want them
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to kill Jewish children.
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So this is about the criticisms of Israel.
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I feel like we've gone a little off track here.
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Yeah.
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I think this is no good.
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I think I'm getting a sense of why this guy would,
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you wouldn't want him on a live mic.
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I was, I was, you know what?
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And I mean Alex and Dale, you don't want him on a live mic.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, talking about Israel,
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I'm already uncomfortable with.
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Focusing on Israel makes me very uncomfortable.
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For this guy to be focusing on Israel
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makes me want to leave the room.
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Yeah, his focus is not great.
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No good, no good.
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So we have one more clip of Dale's appearance.
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Sure.
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And I think that, yeah, this isn't,
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this is not about political shit.
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It's not about a government.
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It is about hating Jewish people.
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Well.
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And then meanwhile, you know,
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I studied the New World Winter Pasture.
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Did you know it's run by Nazi devil worshipers?
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No, I didn't know that.
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I really, really studied it.
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And at the highest levels,
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even some of these so-called Zionist leaders
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really aren't even what you'd call a Zionist.
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They're just into the occult.
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I'm aware of that.
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I'm aware of that.
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And this is something that comes up
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in these newspapers forward
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and Washington Jewish Week every once in a while.
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And I exposed that on the program.
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Everything that the Bible is against,
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Jewish leaders are on the front lines.
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I'm talking about sodomy, pornography,
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Oh shit.
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abortion,
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Fuck it out.
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abolitionism.
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Everything that the Bible teaches against
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is praised in the Jewish press,
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in the forward newspaper,
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in the Washington Jewish Week.
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It's in there every week.
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And this is one of the things
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that made up the content of my program,
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these outrageous occultic satanic things
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that the Jews are into and they're proud of it.
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Yeah, it might be why your program wasn't,
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we don't want,
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the station didn't want to hear it anymore.
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Dale, I appreciate what you want.
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And I know you like having that live time.
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So here's what we'll do.
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I can, we can keep your show
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and you can pre-tape it.
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Or, or if you want that live mic,
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you have to change it so slightly.
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It's called Focus on Water Slides.
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It's 15 minutes.
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Fucking demonic water slides.
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About demonic water slides.
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That's fine if it's demonic water slides.
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That's what the water slides are trying to push pornography.
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But also the water slides can't be metaphor for Jews.
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Ah shit.
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That's one rule.
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We can't be, can't be doing that.
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Yeah, I think that the presentation
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that the American Free Press wanted
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and Alex is reporting on is like,
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this guy just has some very reasonable criticisms of Israel
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and the influence on American politicians
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and the global foreign policy decisions
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that allyship makes.
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And instead he's talking and it's fundamentally clear
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that he thinks that Jews are the enemy of Christianity.
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Well, I mean, when you say like,
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hey, this group of people, they're people,
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but everything they believe in is against
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what my God believes in.
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And I know they cannot change,
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especially not through talking.
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That means you're probably not gonna have a good time.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think it makes it clear why he was,
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his show isn't on.
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And I think it invalidates the entire point
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that Alex's interview was supposed to achieve.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So he goes and Alex gets back to some of the big news,
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not Boston, legal.
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All right.
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Talking to Waxman and the Bush signing into law,
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something that didn't pass.
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Is he from Boston?
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Let me read this article though first,
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it's from a raw story.
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Congressman writes White House,
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did president knowingly sign law that didn't pass
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and it's posted on presidentplanet.com and infoawars.com.
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Representative Henry Waxman has alleged a letter
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to White House Chief of Staff, Andrew Carr,
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that President Bush signed a version
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of the Budget Reconciliation Act that in effect
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did not pass the House of Representatives.
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Further, Waxman says there is reason to believe
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that the speaker of the house called President Bush
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before he signed the law and alerted him
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that the version he had, that he was about to sign
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differed from the one that actually passed the house.
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If true, this would put the president
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in willful violation of the US Constitution.
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Got him.
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And it dealt with over 2 million dollars.
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2 billion dollars of extra funding.
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Now understand, there are a thousand page bills
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passed every week.
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There are hundreds plus page bills passed every day.
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So Alex doesn't understand this story
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and you can tell because of the way
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that he's talking about the two billion dollar discrepancy
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between the two versions of the bill.
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After this point, Alex descends into a riff
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trying to get the audience to imagine
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a two billion dollar bank robbery
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and how seriously people would take that,
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which is meant to imply that the version that Bush signed
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to law stole an extra two billion dollars
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for these politicians.
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Naturally.
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In reality, the version that he signed
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provided two billion less dollars in funding
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for Medicare recipients having access
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to things like CPAP machines.
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You could make an argument that this is a two billion dollar
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theft from the American people,
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but Alex doesn't think that Medicare should exist
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to begin with.
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So he is absolutely in favor of them having less funding.
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His policy preferences are in line
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with giving Medicare two billion less in funding.
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So what happened is actually exactly what he wants,
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but in order to make it into a narrative
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that plays on Infowars,
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he has to spin it like it's Bush and his cronies
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adding two billion dollars to the pot for themselves.
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If this whole different versions of the bill thing
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hadn't happened, he'd probably just ignore this story
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cause it's boring and he's just cold reading
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a raw story blog post.
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So like it wouldn't even matter to him
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if there wasn't some little intrigue.
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Yeah, it is kind of interesting that you have to,
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whether or not he knows it or, you know,
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it is at this time, like he's a creature of,
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of instinct more than anything else.
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Cause he's, he's also kind of creating his responses
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to these things in real time.
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But like you have to take stances that are absurdly
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against your own position in order,
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but without any stakes in order to convince people
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that you can have positions that are against your position.
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So it's so easy for him to be like,
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ah, look at this $2 billion stuff and get real anger
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cause he really wants it to be zero.
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I don't want them to get any money.
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I'm furious that he would sign this bill
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and fake that anger into something
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that people could agree with.
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Yeah. And by presenting it as like some kind of grand scam
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that the Bush and his cronies have done to enrich themselves
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it sidesteps the entire question of,
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should Medicare recipients be getting this money?
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Yes, they should, but you don't believe that.
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We're not on the same page,
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but by creating a grander fiction,
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we can agree on that grander fiction.
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We could not be further from the same team
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and yet somehow your bullshit has made me feel close to you.
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Yeah.
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Cause it's fake.
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I wonder if he's, does he,
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and maybe I don't know if this is actually how it works,
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but if everybody was like, okay,
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this is the bill we agreed to sign,
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but then like he accidentally got the wrong typing.
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Do we live on fairytale laws?
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Is it like, ah shit, there's no way to change it.
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This was the plot of Bullworth II.
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That never got made, but as a script that was going around.
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No, I don't know.
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I mean, like I'm certain there are mechanisms
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that deal with that.
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There have to be like,
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there has to be just like a regular white out
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that you can do.
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And I think that Alex wouldn't care now
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because Trump could just do whatever he wants.
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Well, you can just rip that shit apart.
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Yeah.
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So we know in the present day
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that Alex is painfully addicted to social media.
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Sure.
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But in 2006, he is just thinking
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about getting into MySpace.
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Ooh, that's right.
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And so that storyline continues a little bit.
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I mean, everybody freaks out about China censoring stuff.
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MySpace has erased a whole bunch of blogs
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that we and others had put up there
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with names like Will, Rupert Murdoch, shut down this site.
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Haven't shut down our main room we put up yet.
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We haven't really plugged it.
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Because it's not a lie.
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I asked earlier,
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what's the name of our MySpace account?
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I saw them in their building only yesterday in the day,
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but we're just testing it.
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Our MySpace account is about exposing MySpace.
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They may be sophisticated enough to leave ours up
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knowing we're big and we'll send them traffic
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while cutting out all the little ones.
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We'll see what happens.
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I mean, they're not dumb.
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They know it's a trap.
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Doesn't will show what a bunch of sensors they are.
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There's already lesions and examples of that.
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This is the perfect scam for Alex.
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He can get on MySpace and take advantage
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of all the benefits that come from being on social media,
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all while pretending that his presence there
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is some kind of rebellious act.
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And the best part is, no matter what happens,
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the end result is proof of how dangerous and rebellious he is.
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If MySpace throws him off the site,
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it's proof that they're sensors and Alex is right.
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If they don't throw him off,
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that's proof that they know he's too big to censor
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and they don't want to fall into his trap.
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Alex's career is full of rigged shit like this
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where it's pretty much impossible for him to ever be wrong
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because his career is a carnival game.
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When he predicts a false flag attack
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is going to happen in the next month,
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if there's a big shooting,
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he gets to say that attack is the one he predicted.
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And if nothing happens, then he gets to claim
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that he scared the New World Order with his predictions,
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so they change their plans.
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It's all a game, but in the meantime,
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Alex gets to use MySpace in exactly the way
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he's supposed to be above using it.
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It's an evil Trojan horse of censorship,
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but as long as he pretends that he's using it
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for a higher purpose, he gets to profit off
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of all the attention and free promotion
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that the site provides.
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He gets to use it exactly like any other business would.
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But he gets to pretend that it's a high-minded trap
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that he's set for the devil.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys.
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See, here's the thing, here's the thing, right?
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So I know, listen, you can't, you can't use this hot tub.
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Evil, evil hot tub, disgusting.
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You should never use this hot tub.
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Now I'm gonna sit in this hot tub to prove to them
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how evil it is, and you'll know how evil it is
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because I'll look so fucking comfortable in it.
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I'm gonna look so comfortable in this hot tub.
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And if they kick me out, that's because they're evil.
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But if they don't kick me out,
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that's because you know they're evil
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and I'm having a grand time.
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An analog of this would be like us taking ads
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and rationalizing it with like a,
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wouldn't it be so funny if we took ads?
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Yeah.
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Like, these companies are so dumb
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to take an ad from us. Look at how fucking stupid
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they would be if we, if we, listen,
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we'll tell you to go to fucking Target or whatever,
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but we'll be like, Target sucks.
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Yeah, we're making fun of the idea of having an ad,
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but we're also enjoying all the benefits of having an ad.
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Oh man, Target, bunch of assholes,
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they're giving you milk for like $3.29.
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Can you believe that, Dan?
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It's 40% off the street, what a bunch of assholes.
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Are you kidding me, what a bunch of assholes?
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It's, it's, um.
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Also, Target owes us money for that.
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That's the game that Alex is trying to play
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with Myspace, and it's just.
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It's absurd.
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Yeah, so obviously at the beginning of this episode,
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probably one of the most exciting things happened,
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imaginable, and that is that Alex said
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he was gonna review a movie.
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And I kept waiting, I was like,
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alright, we got this anti-Semitic dude.
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Yeah.
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We got a bunch of complaining about Boston Legal.
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Right.
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He played that song from the pop punk band.
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Did he?
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Yeah, he did, and it's not bad.
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Is it a good song?
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Yeah, it stuck in my head a little bit.
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If that's all we get from this episode,
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I'll take it.
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I went and listened to a couple more songs of theirs,
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they're not bad.
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Alright, alright, okay.
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If that's your, if your flavor's pop punk,
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maybe take a chance.
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They're really what you would expect
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of a like, high level local band in that era.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They're good, and I don't know,
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I'm not gonna listen to a ton more of them,
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but they're very serviceable.
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And three of them are siblings.
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Three of the four band members are siblings.
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That's crazy.
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Do they, are the Hanson brothers around at this time?
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Bob.
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Yep, they were.
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They were, weren't they?
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Oh yeah, because they were around when I was in high school.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Man, we're old.
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Yep.
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So anyway, Alex gets to his review of Scanner Darkly.
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Sure.
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Pretty late in the episode.
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That's too late.
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And he is not committed.
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I said that I would do a review of Scanner Darkly,
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and I don't know how I do justice to it.
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It is Philip K. Dick science fiction, you know,
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phenomenons, really his autobiography about drug use
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and drug abuse and what it did to him
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and people around him.
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And you know, why do we put people in prison
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for something that is, really is something
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that's just chemical that they fell into
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that is something very addictive and just destructive.
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It is a disease.
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Humans have always had substance abuse problems.
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And by making it illegal, we actually put money into it
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and then actually empower the industry
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and then make it fashionable and connected to money
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and then make more people actually get on it.
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All the research and evidence and historical lens shows us.
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But that's just the backdrop.
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A larger part of the backdrop is face scanning cameras,
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total surveillance, 20% of the public on this drug.
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And of course you learn that a private corporation
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working with the government much like Halliburton
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and others is actually creating the crisis.
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Problem reaction solution.
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Spoilers, Alex.
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Wait, did they make a Scanner Darkly?
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Who?
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The New World Order, the problem reaction solution guys?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The Hegelian dialectic people?
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No, Philip K. Dick was exposing it.
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Right.
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Exposing that there's like a Halliburton type company
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that's making the drug, bop, boop, bop.
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Is that what a Scanner Darkly is about?
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I mean, there is a drug.
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Yeah, there's drugs there.
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Well sure, there is a drug.
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Well, yeah.
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All right.
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I think that if I had to peel out something
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that Alex is saying, it's legalized drugs.
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I believe that would,
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well, I mean, if your question is why put people in jail
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for doing something that's awesome and that everybody likes,
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the answer should be you don't.
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Yeah, it seems like the most real world application
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of this would be legalized drugs.
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Yeah.
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And he doesn't believe that.
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Or explain why it's totally cool to imprison people
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just for the thing that we all do
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and we've had for a long, long time.
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So his review of the actual movie is not,
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there's not much, but there is,
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he does talk about himself a bit.
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Yeah, well.
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And I know it's got one on a rider.
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It's got-
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Did you see the movie?
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Woody Harrelson, it's got Count of Reeves,
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it's got just a lot of other people
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and their performances are just amazing.
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Then they rotoscoped it.
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This is unlike any rotoscoping you've ever seen
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where they animate each frame.
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So it's real, but it's not.
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And it makes their performances even more powerful.
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And the thing about this film,
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and I was there at this little sneak peak last night
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I was invited to, and it was great to be there,
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invited by the director and others.
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It was great to be there and to see something new.
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I mean, that's what avant-garde means, just something new.
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Once again, we have defined avant-garde.
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Yeah.
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So this is another, okay,
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I only really played that clip
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because he promised us a movie review
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and I'm obsessed with his movie reviews.
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Yeah.
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So you have to hear something,
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but the only thing that's important in that clip
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is Alex saying that he was invited
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by the director and others.
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That means not the director.
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Right.
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Richard Linklater, if he had invited Alex to this premiere.
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I was invited by the director.
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Exactly.
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You only say I was invited by the director and others
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when the others are maybe more important.
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The publicity people.
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Right.
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Or not even that, somebody he knows who had a ticket.
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I was on the reply all.
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Yep.
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And I accidentally got an email
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that invited me to this or something.
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Did you get to walk down the red carpet?
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Then you were probably invited like that.
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But I just know from the way he uses words and language
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that if you say I was invited by the director and others,
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that means not director.
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Yeah.
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That's how Alex talks.
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What a fun little tick to have.
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It's a lie truth.
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Whenever there is a lie that is kind of transparently a lie,
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you need to build it up more.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So many people invited me.
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I got invited, I couldn't stop getting invited.
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So anyway, Alex was a consultant on this film.
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Yes, he was.
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He consulted about how Philip K. Dick?
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No.
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Nope.
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No, not a Dick expert.
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No.
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But here is what he consulted on.
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Yeah.
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It's just, I'm so proud to be associated
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and to be involved with this film.
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I'm extremely proud of it.
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You know, I consulted on the film
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for some of the high-tech police state gadgetry.
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I'm sorry?
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Future.
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And I consulted in a moderate way, not in a huge way.
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I'm very impressed by the research that was done
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because Dick wrote this.
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Philip K. Dick wrote this back in the seventies.
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And I'm really impressed by his foresight
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of what was coming, what would develop.
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So Alex, he consulted on the gadgetry
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of the new world order, future gadgetry.
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So he's like Q.
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Well, yeah, except that Q made things.
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Right.
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He was a quartermaster.
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So yeah, I mean, I would assume that Linklater
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didn't like go to the Civil War studio
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and Alex had like an array of like,
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here's your futuristic gadget for this.
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What are you looking for?
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The things in the movie aren't real.
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They're props.
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Yeah, there is that problem.
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So then is it Alex's imagination
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of what things are supposed to look like?
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Here's what Alex wants you to think.
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Yeah.
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He's a futurist.
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And basically he described the future
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and what things would look like and all this stuff.
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And then Linklater ran with it.
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He's responsible for the vibe
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and the like kind of aesthetic things
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that are in the movie.
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And that's dog shit.
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No, no, no, no.
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It wasn't his idea a grappling hook.
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I think that that clip, I mean, it's short,
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but it includes grandiosity on an insane level.
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And then also modesty, false modesty
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of like I consulted, but in a major way.
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No, no, no, no, no, not in a big deal.
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I was, listen, he's the guy who said, should we have guns?
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And I was like, it's the future, give them lasers.
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No big deal, no big deal.
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But the film wouldn't work without me.
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That's all I'm trying to say over here.
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Hey, come on now.
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I would bet anything.
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And I don't think it was Linklater who asked it.
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But I bet someone on set asked him
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like just sort of a passing conversational question.
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And he's like, well, you know,
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I think that the globalists in the future
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would have brain wiping devices.
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And then he's like, I'm a fucking consultant.
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Obviously.
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That's what happened here.
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Hey Alex, what do you think about these bracelets?
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They're weird, right?
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They look a little futuristic.
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They're so futuristic, I saw them in a dream
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and then they were gonna take all their legs off.
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I'm gonna tell people I'm a consultant.
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Hell yeah.
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So we have one last clip and it's Alex talking.
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Now keep in mind, he's in one scene, he's in a cameo.
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It's a brief thing that he is in this movie.
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He thinks he's going to be featured prominently.
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Oh boy.
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I've heard prominently in the film.
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I'm gonna appear even more prominently in the DVD,
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which DVDs now bigger than theatrical releases.
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So that'll be exciting too.
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But a couple of scenes that have me in them
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that you won't see in the film.
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You will see your scenes in the film,
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but you'll see even more on the DVD
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and then that'll be hitting theaters in July.
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So we're excited about it scanner dark, Leah.
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I had all the stuff I wanted to say before the show,
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but I've kind of run my course already.
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I'm a little bit tired today.
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Yeah, you don't have much to say.
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Do you know what's crazy about that?
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That is exactly the type of shit you hear
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from an actor starting out a little delusional.
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Like I, listen, I know I called my mom.
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I said, I'm gonna be in this film.
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And I was only in there for three seconds.
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So I had to tell her, when you get the DVD,
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I'm in the deleted scenes.
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I was in these scenes.
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I have no idea how they even could cut them.
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Like it's somehow, you know, you get time.
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My best work is to come.
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Yeah, like absolutely.
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And much like with that early actor too,
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like there is no fucking shame in what Alex did.
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It's cool to be in a Richard Linklater movie.
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It's cool to be in a scanner dark, Leah.
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And it's even cool to be like, hey, I'm Alex Jones.
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And I was stuck cast because I was gonna be a guy
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yelling into a bullhorn.
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It's super cool.
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There is nothing to be embarrassed
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about just being in one scene.
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Totally.
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The idea that you need to be featured prominently
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or there's scenes in the DVD, like you don't need that, man.
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Just take the win.
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It's a fucking win.
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It's really cool.
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Do you know what he's doing?
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He's being a poser.
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Yes, yes!
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Exactly.
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Hit my music.
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There's no other way to describe it.
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I wish I could have done that more smoothly.
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Yes, he's totally, it's poser shit.
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You did something really cool and it's not cool enough
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for what you think you deserve to be.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And so you have to make it more in line
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with your own visions of yourself.
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And that's a fucking bummer.
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And I feel deprived because I actually wanna hear
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his review of Scanner Dark.
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I was thinking the same thing.
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I was so mad whenever we got here and you're like,
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I've been waiting for the review.
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Because it's like, the moment he opens with,
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I'm gonna review the movie, we're all, me, the audience,
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everybody around is like, well I wonder what he's gonna say
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about this dumb movie.
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Yeah, fireworks are going off.
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People are like.
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Absolutely, okay, well at least we got something
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to look forward to.
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People are calling off work to get excited
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about hearing Alex's movie review.
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Oh my God.
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So I'm kind of hoping that down the road
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in future episodes he actually gets into the meat of this.
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But I don't know if he will.
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It is, that feeling right there,
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that thing that he's doing,
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the posing about being an actor thing, is so depressing.
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It's so depressing because it is emblematic
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of his inability to just enjoy something so cool.
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Right, like this guy's experienced cool shit
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beyond what 99% of all of us are ever going to experience.
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And he couldn't enjoy it the same way that you can enjoy
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like a really good apple and just be like, fuck!
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What a great apple!
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He couldn't enjoy being in a Linklater film
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because it wasn't cool enough in his mind
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for how cool he really is.
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That sucks!
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It does.
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And I think it goes through so much of his work.
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He's involved in some episodes of like
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Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show
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or Joe Rogan Questions Everything show.
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And he has to turn them into like,
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I basically, I did these shows, I ran these shows.
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Like, you did something kind of cool.
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You are your own fucking weirdo.
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And because of that, people have stunt cast you
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in various things.
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Fucking enjoy that.
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That's the pinnacle of success for you.
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Absolutely.
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No, we've gotten to do so many cool things.
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And one of the biggest focuses for me is just being like,
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hey, enjoy the shit out of this.
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Just really enjoy it for what it is
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like to be in that perfect moment.
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For five seconds.
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Like we got to be on CNN.
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And it's not because like we run something.
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It was an accident.
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No, completely.
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Neither of us were like, oh, we've got some dangerous ideas
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and CNN had to come call it.
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Somebody emailed, probably by accident.
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Yes, or some oversight or something.
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But it's because of the position we've put ourselves in
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through doing this.
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And it was really cool.
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It was fun.
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But like, let's not pretend.
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No, we're not, we didn't have,
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we're not TV appearance people.
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We're not talking heads.
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Although, I'm in.
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I don't know.
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Nah.
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No.
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So we come to the end of this
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and I think it's a fascinating glimpse of posing.
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Yep.
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Of a very depressing view of Alex's sense of self.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of really weird stuff
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that is exactly the same as the present.
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Yep.
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So that's fun.
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Yeah.
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But we'll be back with another episode.
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Maybe we'll be in the past.
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Maybe we'll be more about water slides.
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Water slides.
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That's my goal.
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Water slides and actual movie reviews.
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Very, that sounds like a great show.
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Let's fucking do it.
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But whatever it is, it'll come later.
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For now, we have a website.
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We do, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
