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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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I need, I need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy. It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan of your channel. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, D.N.
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Jordan.
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D.N.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Well you know it is still January so as is tradition you must go first.
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Well I have a bright bright spot.
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Nice.
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Because if you recall I went out for a nice little lunch with my childhood best friend a little while back.
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Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
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Right?
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And so yesterday we went out again.
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Took my wife, took the, we did the whole thing.
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Him and his fiancee, me and my wife, we did the thing.
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Wild.
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Which means that now we can escalate from childhood best friend to just adult regular friend.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah.
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You know I know when you all first got back in contact you weren't sure, you know like, who knows how this is going to be.
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I haven't seen this person in forever.
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It could be weird.
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I could have been an asshole for longer than I suspected.
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Sure.
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That would have caused resentment.
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Turns out I was medium bad.
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Medium asshole.
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Medium asshole.
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The appropriate amount for me I guess.
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Well this is wonderful news.
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Yeah and then we went out to the bone temple which makes this the most social week I've had for maybe the past, since maybe the pandemic.
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Yeah.
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In all honesty.
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Because there's two things.
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Two things that I have gone outside for.
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And one of them involved a bone temple.
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And both of them involved friends.
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Yeah.
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This is what it's all about man.
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I'm getting addicted to it.
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Oh no.
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Maybe next month I'll go out two or three times.
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This is, your new year's resolution was only that you were supposed to go out next new year's.
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Unprecedented.
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This is crazy.
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This is crazy.
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Well I'm happy for you and I'm excited to see what you talking to people brings.
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This new social exploration.
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This is crazy.
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This is crazy.
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This is crazy.
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You might be thinking of Pay It Forward.
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Oh.
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Does he get murdered?
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That kid gets killed at the end of the-
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No.
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No!
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Yes.
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Oh man.
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I may be, I might be talking right out of my ass, but like I really don't think Patch
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Adams gets murdered.
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I don't, listen, I'm not gonna die on that hill.
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I think he's a silly doctor and it's a dark movie because his patients are all sick.
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Right.
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I don't think he dies.
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He might die, but I don't think it's murder.
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Well, we all die.
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Yeah.
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Eventually.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Whew.
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Man, he bummed me out thinking about someone
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cranking Patch Adams.
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OK, well, I don't know.
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I don't know if that's how that movie ends.
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I hope I didn't rewrite that movie to end that way
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for some personal reason.
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We may never know.
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It's possible.
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Yeah.
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Oh, now we're looking it up.
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Now we're looking it up because there's no way Dan can continue
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unless we find out for sure.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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This is extra vamping time for doing.
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So here is the last line in the Wikipedia plot
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synopsis of Patch Adams.
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At graduation, Adams receives his doctor of medicine degree
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and bowing to the professors and audience
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reveals himself to be naked underneath his cabin.
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Hey, so he doesn't get murdered at the end.
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No.
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OK.
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Whew.
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It appears that he is nude.
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OK.
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Now, I feel like that is a very different ending from the one
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that I thought was.
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Yeah.
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Maybe diametrically opposed.
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Yeah.
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He's nude at his graduation ceremony
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and then when he comes off stage, sniper.
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Very different.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't go back and revisit that.
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No.
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No.
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That's just going to be disappointing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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What?
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I mean, it's your time.
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Yeah, but you're supposed to ask.
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What's your bright spot?
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There you go.
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What do you mean, what's your bright spot?
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So it is January.
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It is January.
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And as is tradition, we have the Haribo Advent Calendar.
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Indeed.
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And it is time for a sting.
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All right.
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Haribo coming Advent Calendar.
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Thank you so much to Ryan for that.
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That was great.
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That was good.
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That was really fun.
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You're going to be hearing a lot more of that as you get social.
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You go out to the industrial clubs.
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I'm going to hear British dance music from the early thoughts.
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It comes with being social.
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So today, the 19th, we've got Merry Christmas Haribos,
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which I've had like six times so far.
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They're all over this damn calendar.
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Well, I mean, it is a Christmas Advent Calendar.
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And there are only so many gummies.
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Yeah, I understand that.
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But I know in advance, because I've already had this,
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that it's just basic-ass gummy bears.
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But here we go.
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I'm going to try them while you vamp.
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All right.
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My vamping today, I want to apologize.
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One of our shout outs that will be upcoming
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sent me an email almost a full month ago.
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And I was like, ah, I'm on it.
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And then it's now a month later.
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And I was not as on it as I was hoping.
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So you will know who you are.
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I won't reveal anything.
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But you will know who you are.
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And it is my apology to you.
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OK.
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Good vamp.
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Thank you.
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Not vamping about the Bone Temple, huh?
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No.
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I mean, what is there to say about the Bone Temple
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other than it's fucking great?
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Yeah, it was real good.
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You know, better than those gummies is the Bone Temple.
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Is the Bone Temple?
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By a wide margin.
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Woo!
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I was real worried.
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We talked about it on the last episode.
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I was a little bit stressed out about it underwhelming,
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underperforming, ruining the taste of 28 years later
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in my mouth.
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Couldn't have been more wrong.
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Yep.
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So good.
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Couldn't have made you more excited to see more.
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You want to see it again.
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I've tried to start a little bit of Oscar buzz
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for best leading Bone Temple in a motion picture.
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How many ossuary movies do you think
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there are going to be in 2026?
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Now?
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Yeah.
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I think there's going to be a bunch.
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You think we're going to be?
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Proof of concept here.
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Hollywood's going to see Bone Temple
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and go, that's a money maker.
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Yes.
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There's going to be a Charnel House documentary.
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It's going to be a movie.
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All right.
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I like it.
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OK.
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Bones everywhere.
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I mean, if there was an upcoming Bone Temple
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fad in a lot of movies, I wouldn't be against it.
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No.
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It's better than a lot of fads we've seen in movies.
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I'm on board.
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Yeah.
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Let's all just Bone Temple it up.
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Also, I think we should have a retroactive Bone Temple.
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We should start putting Bone Temples in movies that
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have already been made.
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Patch Adams?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, should end with a Bone Temple.
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You got there first.
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He's nude at graduation.
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He goes off stage.
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And then his skull is placed on top of the Bone Temple
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by his son.
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It's perfect.
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Yeah.
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That's a really good movie.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about the 7th of January,
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2026, also known as the day that Ice shot someone in the face.
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And we will discuss Alex's take on all of this.
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Probably great.
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It's so good.
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Police State 4 great.
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5.
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Yay.
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Forthcoming documentary about how
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the police state's cool, actually.
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And we'll get to this here in a second.
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But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, hey Dan, my policy wonk status
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was formally announced a few hundred episodes ago when
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you were super fucking depressed.
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I've re-listened many times over at reduced speeds.
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And I have to know, while you were in your dark place,
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did you kind of laugh when you read my policy wonk name?
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Sincerely yours, Dan's Jump Fart.
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Thank you so much for now, policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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No.
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Next, Maka, thank you for helping my dream of bubble
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blowing cigarette a reality.
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Can't wait to grow old with little old you.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And my husband is the biggest fan of your show.
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Shout out to my sexy best friend, Aaron.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Mark Moncrief.
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Thank you for being the best dad I could ever ask for.
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Listening to these guys on long drives
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has become a memory I will treasure
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for the rest of my life.
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Love you lots.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Jump fart did not happen.
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It's fake news.
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Anybody who is telling you, if you
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have like audio of me talking about it in the past,
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let's say, it's a deep fake.
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And did not happen.
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I like that.
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I like the new world we can live in where it's like,
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ah, that just didn't happen, buddy.
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It's a deep fake.
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Deep fake.
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So we started off the show here.
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And Alex is now in a place where like, hey,
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we got away with it.
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He fucking overthrew Venezuela and nothing happened.
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It is better to ask forgiveness than permission.
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I believe that's maybe true.
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Trump has paid.
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No consequence for it.
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There's been no political blowback.
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Nothing has happened.
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And so now Alex is like, we just got to fucking empire this.
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Go for it.
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The old globalist new world order system
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fell apart a long time ago.
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And people just figured that out.
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So there is the EU.
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There is Russia.
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There is China.
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There is the United States.
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And the United States still has more
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power projection than all of those groups together.
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But because of internal issues in the United States
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and because of our debt, the United States at many levels
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is in a great position, but also in a very bad position.
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So here's what's going on.
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You notice everything's accelerating faster and faster.
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Slow down.
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The EU and Communist China are in greater debt
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than even the United States.
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Their demographics are bad as well, even worse than ours.
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They need to expand territory.
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They need to put more money on their ballot sheets
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or they will sink.
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It's the same thing with the United States.
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So you can debate whether the imperial activities of Trump
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and manifest destiny 2.0 are right or wrong
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from a moral perspective.
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Can you debate that?
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But there's no doubt that the reason Trump's
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doing what he's doing is that if he doesn't do this,
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the United States will not come out on top
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in this power reshuffle.
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I can debate that.
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So everybody is desperate.
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Europe's plan is to continue war with Russia.
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They believe, take Russian territory
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and add that to their ballot sheet.
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That's their official insane plan.
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China thinks they're going to project power
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all over the world and maintain economic control
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and somehow stay on top of that way.
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You've got the British empire players
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that are trying to play all the different sides
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against each other.
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It is just unbelievable.
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So this seems totally out of step
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with the entire storyline of Alex's career
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and also notably out of step with how he's been trying
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to sell Trump's overthrowing of Venezuela so far.
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That was supposed to have been based on the Monroe Doctrine,
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but now we've moved on to manifest destiny 2.0.
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That's the scariest collection of words
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I think you could possibly hear.
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And it sounds like somebody
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who just vaguely remembers junior high.
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Yep.
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You can't have been listening to Infowars
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from before the Trump era
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and think that what Alex is saying isn't insane.
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There's no way he would have supported
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an American president recolonizing the world,
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even if it was Ron Paul.
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Like that's, no, this is fucking stupid.
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Especially if your argument is to add to your balance sheet
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because there's too much debt.
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That's crazy.
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Right.
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Okay, see, here's the thing.
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We owe too much imaginary money,
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so let's take over a country.
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Right.
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He's supposed to be against like qualitative easing.
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Yep.
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Quantitative easing, excuse me.
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Like not, oh, the answer is takeover countries.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no, okay, you're right.
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Steal resources.
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We do owe China a trillion dollars,
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so how about we steal everything from Venezuela
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and then give it to China.
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Wait.
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Wait, no, we're not gonna give it to China.
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We're going to keep it
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and then just continue to have more debt with China
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because it's all pretend.
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Right.
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It's all pretend.
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Until like all the world has been taken over
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by the United States, Russia, and China,
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and then there's a big fucking war
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between the three of them.
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No, like in one, like in a book.
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Yeah.
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I think that Alex is real dumb.
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Yeah.
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I think that what he's trying to put forth
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is dumb and really scary from a conceptual level,
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but degrading from an Info Wars perspective.
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Yeah.
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If someone had been listening to the show
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for a long time, hearing him say like,
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the globalist order has been destroyed long ago,
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but people are just realizing it now.
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What the fuck were you crying about six months ago then?
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Like what about the globalist proboscis?
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What about all this bullshit?
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Sure.
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Have you been lying about that the whole time then?
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Well, maybe.
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Yeah, huh.
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Maybe instead of worshiping your Christian God,
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I am a fan of the Prince of Lies.
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Turns out.
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Old Nick.
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Old Scratch.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So Alex is like, we gotta do this shit.
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We gotta fucking take people's stuff.
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Or else that's gonna be bad.
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It is like you get a taste
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and then you just gotta have more.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah.
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The United States needs the 18 trillion of oil
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and trillion of gold or more on the ballot sheet.
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So the whole world sees us winning
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and that we're not in the same debt as China and the EU.
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And then the way the world works is they then say,
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oh, we're winning.
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Then they all rush to us to invest with us.
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And then we come out on top
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and then we don't go into a total prolonged depression
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and you hear social security and the rest of it.
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People would say, well, that's empire
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and that's wrong.
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And okay, fine.
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Then just be ready for what's gonna happen.
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Now, the empire building we've been doing for 40 years,
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really since World War II, 75, 80 years,
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but intensely for the globalist for 40 years,
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has been at our expense and in our name and our treasure,
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demonizing us worldwide against our own interest.
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With Trump, you're getting strong man empire
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that is 100% for the general public
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because he understands you gotta stabilize the base
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for his own wealth.
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He's a hospitality guy.
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He's a hospitality guy.
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He's a hospitality guy.
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Okay, let me pitch you on Ocean's 14.
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All right.
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That might already exist.
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In order to get a trillion dollars worth of gold,
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Danny Ocean has to become president.
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This is kind of just national treasure.
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But Nicolas Cage never became president.
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Ooh, wait, was that the third one that I wrote?
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That I think was the third one that you wrote.
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He had to become president
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to be buried in Arlington Cemetery.
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Did you add cannon?
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Yeah, I did.
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No, wait, doesn't he have to get to the presidential cemetery
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in the second one?
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Yeah, but he doesn't.
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He doesn't have to become president though.
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We're talking about somebody who has to steal
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the office of president.
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How does he do it?
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He has fucking, who is it?
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Who's the grease man?
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The grease man is essentially Roger Stone, right?
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We've got that going on.
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Then we've got the younger fucking brother of Ben Affleck
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and then the son of James Caan.
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Alex is the acrobat.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what that, I don't know.
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They're like Steve Bannon.
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The two of them together are basically Steve Bannon.
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Then we got to get a 14th guy.
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Let's call it Julia Roberts again.
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But actually Julia Roberts this time.
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Instead of the character playing Julia Roberts,
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played by Julia Roberts, being Julia Roberts,
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it's actually Julia Roberts playing Julia Roberts.
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Who's Brad Pitt?
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Who is Brad Pitt?
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Like as an existential question.
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He's been around for a long time.
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Mel Gibson, we'll get Mel Gibson in there.
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Seems like he'd do it.
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I mean, it seems like he would become president
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in both fictional and maybe real terms.
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Okay, I got distracted by my old national treasure ideas
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and I forgot what they have to do.
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They have to become president in order to steal.
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They have to steal a trillion dollars of gold
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from Venezuela.
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Okay.
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Because apparently now we're cool with just saying,
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we're gonna need a trillion dollars of gold from Venezuela.
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Yeah.
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That's just what we say now.
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Grab it, grab it, grab it.
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We need that 17 trillion dollars of oil from you
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and a trillion dollars of gold.
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Yeah.
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It's unfortunate that you're in our hemisphere
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because that's ours then.
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Yeah, and again, you can't eat gold.
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There's no value it provides, all purely imaginary.
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Sure, well you can.
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Well, you can.
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Put it in gold schlager.
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That's true, that's true.
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You can eat gold, okay.
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So let them eat gold.
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Yeah.
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So look, man, I think that you could probably argue
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that there was a world order.
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Sure.
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And Trump may be creating a new one.
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That's possible.
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So I think we're gonna have to start talking about
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how there's a new world order.
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Oh yeah?
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People look at Trump and his military expansionism
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and they say, oh my God, it's Neocons 2.0.
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I'm not defending even what he's doing.
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It's academic, we should have a discussion about it.
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But you should know the basic pieces to it.
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This is a whole new ball game.
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The old new world order, globalist plan is done.
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Old new world order.
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I told you a decade ago it was already done.
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And it's officially done and they admit it's done.
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Now the midterm's.
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It's a bad scramble to form the future global system.
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The new new world order.
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As a centralized new world order, globalist,
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transhumanist, anti-human system,
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the natural order would be a tri-polar world
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and the negotiations between that tri-polar system
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and its affiliates.
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Cool.
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Europe doesn't have a place at that tri-polar.
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And Africa doesn't exist.
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As if they're dead to demographics and all of it.
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So they're trying to threaten Russia,
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holding a gun to everybody's head,
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with war to keep themselves central players.
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And to hold together the British empire,
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Bilderberg, Western Europe model,
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and use that to control US foreign policy
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to be the backstop for their plan.
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That's not working.
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Okay.
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So yeah, there's a natural order.
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Yeah.
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Which is a new world order.
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Yeah.
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Which is in juxtaposition with the old new world order.
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Right.
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Which then was a response to the old world order.
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Right.
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Which is something.
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Yeah.
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And the natural way that things exist are there's Russia,
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China, and the United States.
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Yes.
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And no one lives between Cairo and Joburg.
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No.
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Period.
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Zero people live there.
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Affiliates.
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Affiliates.
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Fuck me.
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What even is that?
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That's cruel.
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Yeah.
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Fuck you.
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We're going from like, ah, Ron Paul to like,
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hey, listen, there's three countries
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and their affiliates that are the world.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Three countries and their colonies.
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Yeah.
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We talked years and years ago about how like,
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he just needs to get right with the fact that
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he just wants colonialism back
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and that's kind of where we are.
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Here we are.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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He just believes that certain countries have their spheres,
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their superpowers, and they should fight over affiliates.
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Where they can pillage and plunder all the resources
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and fuck the people who are there.
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What a weird thing to be cool with.
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Yeah.
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Especially for him.
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Yeah.
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That's the issue too.
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That's the, that's, I mean, obviously it's not the main
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issue, the main issue is this is a horrible worldview.
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Sure.
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But off to the side of that just a little bit is,
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hey buddy, do you remember who you are?
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You don't like, it's not like you just wake up
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and everyone has forgotten continuity.
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Yeah.
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Just because his show is allowed to exist without any,
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like a context doesn't mean that the rest of the world does.
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Yeah.
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It's fucking insane.
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I mean, it's hard to argue anything other than
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if there is a tri-polar world and its affiliates, right?
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Then those three countries together,
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were they to make decisions for the world,
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would indeed have a one world government.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And it would eventually become one.
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It would have to be.
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More explicitly.
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It would have to be a one world government.
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And for now, there is no reason why the rest of the
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countries who aren't considered part of this,
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to not think of those three as real valid targets.
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Yep.
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I think that anybody who doesn't want to just be
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an affiliate would be right to overthrow the United States.
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Now would be a good time to start causing some problems.
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Yeah, it seems like Alex's worldview implies that.
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If you would like a more than tri-polar world,
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this is a infomercial at two in the morning.
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If you want a more than tri-polar world.
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Do you feel like an affiliate?
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For just the price of a cup of coffee a day,
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you can overthrow a government.
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Nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we got to get Greenland.
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That's coming.
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What?
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That's coming next.
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Sure, fine.
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The US has seized a Russian oil tanker
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that was taking oil out of Venezuela.
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That's a major provocation with Russia,
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but is Trump openly flexing?
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Even bigger, you have Denmark saying, quote,
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we will shoot first and ask questions later over Greenland.
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Denmark is saying that the government of Greenland,
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which it claimed more than 40 years ago is autonomous
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from the Royal family of Denmark.
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Now they're saying, read the fine print.
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You're actually still a vassal of Denmark.
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Gotcha.
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The Royal families just said they weren't in charge anymore
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in Europe and the UK.
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No, they are.
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Canada is still under the Royal family's control.
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The governor general can dissolve parliament.
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They don't like the votes in Canada.
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Same thing in Australia.
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You think the British empire doesn't exist anymore
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because it went into stealth mode.
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And so Marco Rubio is going over there
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and Greenland's like, absolutely,
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we'll take tens of millions of investment.
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We'll become a US protectorate.
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It's key to resources in the Arctic,
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China moving in, Russia moving in
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with all their icebreakers, all of it.
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It's critical for refueling.
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It's the move we saw with the US expanding
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during manifest destiny and its first 175 years or so
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and buying Alaska from the Russians
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and the Spanish American war in 1898.
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So all that went on before the neocon showed up,
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before Trotsky fled Russia
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when Stalin was trying to kill him and came over here
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and set up the neo cons and national review and took over.
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That's them, that old systems bye-bye.
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And that doesn't say I endorse this.
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I'm simply saying Trump is obsessed
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with the 18th and 19th century.
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He follows it.
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His planners are, and they are trying to reboot the country
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with the Teddy Roosevelt model
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because bigger than the Monroe,
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it was president Roosevelt, Teddy, not Franklin,
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who really implemented the Monroe doctrine.
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Alex just sounds stupid.
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Yeah, he sounds real dumb.
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Yeah.
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This sounds dumb.
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It's not even like he doesn't know things.
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It's just like conceptually this is dumb.
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Yeah.
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I think that, great, go get Greenland.
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This has such a weird flavor.
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You're not gonna be happy.
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Of like giving a book report on a book
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you've never even seen the cover of.
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Like just the idea of saying,
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Trump is obsessed with the 18th and 19th centuries.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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His planners.
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Oh, Dave, he has planners?
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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I thought he's not supposed to have planners.
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You were supposed to tell us about fucking
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where the red fern grows.
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And instead you're telling me that Trump has,
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is obsessed with the 18th and 19th century.
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Bully.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, he loves Teddy Roosevelt.
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He loves Teddy Roosevelt, fine.
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Yeah, I think that there's some stuff
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he's not taking into account.
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Maybe.
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I think that this is a little bit insular.
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I think this is a little bit dumb.
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It's just not taking into account
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a hundred different variables that exist in the world,
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have existed over history,
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is oversimplifying to a level that's-
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They did exist in the 18th and 19th century.
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Some of them did.
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Some of them did.
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It's just embarrassingly oversimplified
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to a point where anybody who had actually,
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maybe studied, or maybe who has a history background,
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you'd hear this and you'd be like,
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what the fuck are you talking about?
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You sound like a kid who didn't do his homework.
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Even with a cursory,
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like skimming over a couple of history textbooks,
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you would still not get here.
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Yeah, and the thing that I want to point out
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is that I don't think that Alex is that stupid.
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I don't know if you can be that stupid.
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No, I don't think that he is.
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This is just the only way to not say what he really wants,
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which is a white supremacist imperial dictatorship
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run by Trump, and he wants that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I remember how I was talking about how great Rome was.
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Turns out I still think Rome was great,
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and I would like to be one with a Caesar.
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Let me know if it goes wrong.
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It's a good idea, good idea.
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So the UN and the EU,
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maybe not thrilled with some of Trump's actions.
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What? Why?
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Well, I mean, you know, over through Venezuela.
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Sure.
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I was talking about taking Denmark.
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Well, Venezuela wasn't in the United Nations.
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Yeah, but Denmark owns Greenland,
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and they are a NATO country.
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Sure.
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And that's a little dicey.
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So anyway.
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Then we have the EU and NATO saying,
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the chairman of the Osteering Committee for NATO,
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enlargement, if you take it, Greenland,
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we will take every single US base
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from Ivano to Rammstein,
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from Romania to all their military bases.
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We will be, they will be confiscated and you will lose it.
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If you go extreme, we go extreme.
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That's great.
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Let's get out of NATO.
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Let's let Europe defend itself
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so it stops starting fights with Russia.
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Let's call their bluff.
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They got the other EU heads saying it,
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the Unelected Commission.
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But the point is, behind the scenes,
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I can tell you, and I said this before
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I did the news yesterday,
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that Russia and China actually like this.
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What?
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They understand the globalist.
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How could you imagine that?
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What?
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Should we let Brussels and the UN
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and NATO dictate to everybody?
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No, Russia controls its fear.
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China has its fear.
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The United States has its fear.
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What a shocking bit of news
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that Alex has somehow figured out through back channels
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that Russia and China are thrilled with this discord
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among the Western countries.
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Can't imagine.
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It's pretty hard to listen to Alex
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and not feel like he's trying to create the conditions
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for a new world war.
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There's just no way around.
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This is where this leads.
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I mean, we're literally going World War I too.
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We're not even doing a good one.
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We're going with just like,
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hey, we've got a petty squabble
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between people who know each other.
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Anyways, let's kill tens of millions of people.
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Or I guess maybe like a cold war
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that is fought through proxies and affiliates.
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Which was great for so many affiliates over the time.
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And Alex definitely didn't have any criticism
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of that proxy war kind of stuff.
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And if you never forget,
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then you definitely don't think
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that maybe those proxy wars had something to do with 9-11.
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Yeah.
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Alex also just, he needs to do more work
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than just skim tweets
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when he's talking about stuff like world wars
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and his desire to create a new world order.
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That guy that he's talking about
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at the beginning of the clip
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is a guy named Gunther Hechlinger Jan.
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And his bio on Twitter says that he's the quote,
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Chairman Austrian Committee for NATO Enlargement Balkans Plus.
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He runs an advocacy group
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that's in favor of NATO enlargement,
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but he has no formal connection to NATO
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and he doesn't speak for them.
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Alex is reporting this guy's comments on Twitter
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as if they were the position of NATO.
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And he's doing that because he's lazy, sloppy,
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and doesn't give a shit about this.
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He's saying that NATO is saying
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they're gonna take away all bases and everything
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based on a fucking guy on Twitter.
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Yeah.
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We need to do, so I know it's gonna be tough
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and I don't know how it gets pulled off,
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but there needs to be a nationwide, probably worldwide,
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let's just face it, like a social media recall.
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You know, like we fucked up.
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We know we fucked up, but we still gotta have it.
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So we're gonna take a couple of weeks off, retool things,
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and then bring it back in a better way.
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Because the way it's going now, it's not good.
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Social media?
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Yeah, we can't be doing that.
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No, no.
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This Twitter shit.
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It's unsustainable.
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Come on, you gotta get this shit out of here.
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Sure, and even beyond that, Facebook too, all of it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I think when a product is defective in a meaningful way,
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you're able, like if a toaster causes fires,
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people are able to like say,
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hey, this is not safe for consumers.
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Totally.
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You gotta fix that coil or whatever.
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Absolutely.
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And yeah, social media, we gotta do that.
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If your car literally drove you insane, you'd go,
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we should not do this car.
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We should get a different car.
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This is a Stephen King novel.
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This is a Stephen King novel.
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This thing that I bought is driving me insane.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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When you put it that way.
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It does feel crazy, doesn't it?
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It does.
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So Alex, I know from listening to his show for many years,
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is a big fan of the Constitution.
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Loves checks and balances, loves it.
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Can't get enough of the idea that like a unitary
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executive power unchecked by other branches of government
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is dangerous.
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Absolutely, terrible idea.
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So now here we are.
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These are the few areas Trump can get something done
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because the Justice Department's so corrupt,
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he can't really act as much as he wants to domestically,
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but he can militarily.
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DHS is a newer agency.
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He's got better people than there.
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2000 hit Minneapolis, St. Paul alone.
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Reportedly 500 arrests just the last day.
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I mean, the left's going crazy right now.
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So anywhere Trump can get his agenda through,
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he's doing it with flying colors.
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Anywhere he can't, he runs into a brick wall.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Wow.
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He shouldn't have to run into those brick walls
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of the few vestiges of checks and balances existing.
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He can get his shit done in places where he can act
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like a dictator.
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Man, I remember growing up and hearing so much bullshit
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from Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity
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about how what they want is a government
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that couldn't do anything.
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If the government is-
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The government that governs least
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is the government that governs best.
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You bet, absolutely.
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Bullshit like that.
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Just like, no, you want them in gridlock
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because if they work, shit goes terrible.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Now here we are.
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Now here we are.
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What you want is a kleptocratic and corrupt billionaire
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to be the sole power in your world.
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And look, it sucks that he can only exert his will
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through the military and that's kind of why
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he's got to do it that way.
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It does make sense.
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Does make sense.
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These fucking assholes.
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Yeah.
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It's nuts.
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Gotta give it to them.
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So anyway, they're only acting like this
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and really the world has only come to this point
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because whites are so under attack.
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That doesn't sound true, but I'll believe you.
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Yeah, it's not true, but it is how Alex feels.
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And that's the communist model.
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Crash the economic system, crash the capitalist system
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with corruption and overload, then offer communism
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and redistribution of wealth
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and seizing the means of production
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and seizing private property.
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And they've already made it racial.
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Mondani-
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You mean like a trillion dollars of gold?
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Says, we're going to take white people's homes at the clips.
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And in the UK last year, they said
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white men get three times the sentence of anyone else.
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And it's official, they're doing it.
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And they also said-
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Official!
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There's too many brown people in prison.
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We're going to release them no matter what
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and have quotas for white people.
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Sounds true.
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You put white people in for praying for three years
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and you rape a 10 year old girl, no time.
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Obvious.
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I have them in parliament.
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I have the laws.
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It's on screen right now.
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You cannot make this up.
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And the leftist globalist control systems are the same
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from Australia to Germany, to the UK, to the US.
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Anytime they need to, any chair they're carrying out,
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they just say, oh, it's for the brown people.
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Then they can activate the leadership of the brown people
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who are NGO globalists, who communists,
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to burn everything down anytime we got a line.
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And then we're the white supremacists.
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Figure this out yet?
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You figure it out?
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Absolutely not.
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I figured it out.
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Yeah.
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I figured Alex out.
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Yeah, that is figure-out-able.
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So to be clear, what Alex is saying here
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is just classic white supremacist talking points.
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In its early stages, white supremacists and Nazis
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had very clear and open affinity
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for anti-communist extremists
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for some fairly obvious reasons.
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Communists and Nazis have historically been at odds
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with each other, so that alliance makes sense.
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But the connection for white supremacists isn't as direct.
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Anti-communist propaganda has historically presented
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every attempt by the oppressed and often non-white people
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to escape their oppressors as being a plot
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the communists are using to disrupt
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the natural order of things.
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Communist parties and organizations
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are often on the side of groups that opposed systems
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like South African apartheid,
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so it was easy for anti-communist propagandists
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to conflate the two and create the impression
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that no one would be complaining about apartheid
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if it weren't for those pesky communists
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making black South Africans feel like
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they should attack the white people.
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Over time, this connection became a central pillar
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of the anti-communist worldview
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and a way for people on the extreme right wing
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to express white supremacist views
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without feeling like they were being super racist.
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They could pretend that they would be in favor
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of civil rights, but they couldn't possibly endorse them
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in the 60s because all of that was just communist agitation.
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If only there were some call for equal rights
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that wasn't communist agitation,
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they would totally get behind it.
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But it's impossible.
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Right.
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There's just none.
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Right, and this system has worked out perfectly
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to the point where we are now,
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and that is what Alex is expressing.
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I mean, it's one of the great mergers.
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I remember reading something from, oh no, yeah,
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there's this business podcast about people,
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and man, made me wanna start capitalism fires.
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But anyways, their show is about successful mergers
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and shit like that.
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This one is the most successful one.
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Yeah.
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You know, like the two of them
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could not have gotten on better
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and then continued to light fires more.
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It serves their own interests,
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each interest perfectly to the point where
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you now start to wonder if they are even different interests.
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Is there any, yeah, is there any separation
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between the two?
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Yeah.
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I can't think so.
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I mean, he didn't say that he was gonna seize
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white people's property,
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and all that other stuff Alex is saying is just bullshit.
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His tenant director, Sia Weaver, posted a tweet in 2019
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that said, quote, private property,
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including and kind of especially home ownership
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is a weapon of white supremacy
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masquerading as wealth building public policy.
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Sure.
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Alex doesn't know who Weaver is,
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and he has no idea what she actually tweeted.
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He's just responding to people getting all worked up
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about libs of TikTok posting about her tweet.
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Right.
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And trying to make the appearance
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that Mom Donnie is gonna steal white people's property.
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Yeah, yeah, it's hard.
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It's hard whenever people have a competent theory
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behind what they're saying, because that's easy to exploit.
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Yeah, that tweet is totally fair,
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and it makes a fine point,
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but it is very easy for people to exploit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you're not going to be able
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to get a clear explanation from somebody
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if all you hear from them is them screaming like,
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redlining is bad!
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But it's very similar in content
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to what she was expressing.
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Yeah.
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But one of those is gonna get you on libs of TikTok.
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Private property and home ownership
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are not in and of themselves white supremacist
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or a function of white supremacy necessarily,
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but they are tools that have been used
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in a way to reinforce white supremacist policies
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and leanings within organizations.
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So it makes sense.
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It's not that inflammatory.
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So anyway, Alex seems to be struggling with the reality
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that he has to move on from the globalists now,
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because he said it's over.
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There's a new New World Order.
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There is a New World Order.
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And it's good.
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I guess.
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And so he tries to explain it to the audience
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in ways that they can possibly understand.
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Nice.
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Like The Hobbit.
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Good.
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Movies.
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No, boo.
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He's out of the brain.
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The old globalist system has fallen.
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And now there is a power vacuum
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with the major powers of the world
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trying to flood in to grab all the different resources
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and different things to establish
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the new political landscape order.
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And I would use the analogy of The Hobbit,
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where at the end of the book, they've killed Smaug.
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Smaug.
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He's got the biggest treasure trove in the world
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that he'd stolen from the dwarves.
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And so the five different races of Middle Earth
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hear about it,
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and they all go rushing towards the Lonely Mountain
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to try to get control of the giant treasure hoard.
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And that's where we are right now.
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And so China's running around grabbing stuff
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from the Philippines and Vietnam
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and moving into Africa and Latin America
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and trying to get to Panama Canal.
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And Russia just wants to secure its borders
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and not be attacked by Europe
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that openly says their business model is to take over Russia,
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which is totally insane,
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and quote, break it in five pieces.
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So we're going back to what was always done before.
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And under the globalist,
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they were doing it corporately going around
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taking over the world and proliferating weapons.
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So we are now entering the battle of five armies.
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But instead of five armies,
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it's the Chicoms, the Russians,
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you've got the America first Trump people,
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you've got the British empire playing both sides,
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the US off against each other,
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then you've got Islam.
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Just Islam.
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And then you've got Christians standing up for what's right
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and getting politically involved in praying.
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What did you consider those?
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So I guess there is the battle of five armies.
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And that's where we're at.
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That's where we're at.
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It's interesting that the America first Trump people
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are a separate group in Alex's mind from the Christians
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who are doing the right thing and praying.
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Yep, it is very strange.
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So the Hobbit, the battle of the five armies
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isn't really that important,
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but it was expanded into its own movie
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for the Peter Jackson trilogy.
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So this tracks for Alex.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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I was gonna say, because it was like,
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that's just a conversation about pride and greed
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of being stupid.
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Yeah, and the point at the end of the Hobbit
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is that Bilbo, the main character,
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turns down his share of the treasure
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and goes back to the Shire.
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Because he doesn't need or want riches,
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he only takes a little and ironically ends up with the ring.
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Of course.
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You wouldn't think of the battle of five armies
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as being like, this is what the Hobbit is leading to.
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Yeah, no, no, no.
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Unless you were going based on the movies.
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Right, that makes sense.
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What's going on right now
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is that Alex is trying to shed the baggage
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of the globalists and pivot his content
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into a new world order era,
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but he doesn't have any other real tricks
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than this battle of good and evil stuff.
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The globalists are Smaug, and now they've been defeated.
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And so now China's the goblins, Islam is the wargs.
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I mean, in a way, I never saw the movies
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because I assumed they would be a horrible bastardization
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of something that I really loved.
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But there was no good and evil in any battle of these armies.
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There was not a good and evil.
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There was people being prideful and stupid,
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people being greedy and holding,
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people not being able to distribute fairly.
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Then there's the river lords, then you've got everybody.
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And then at the end of it, it's like, they fought,
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and then we figured it out.
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Yeah, the dwarves, elves, and humans
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all wanted the gold and the treasure.
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Yeah, they weren't on the same team.
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Nobody was on the same team.
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Until the goblins came, and then they got together,
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and those three armies fought against
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the goblins and the wargs.
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Right, but again, they still just wanted shit
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for themselves.
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Yeah, and I've not seen those movies myself either
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because I was deeply traumatized by getting high
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and watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy too many times.
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That'll happen.
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And I'm not watching another one.
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But I do know from just being kind of like
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a light movie guy who has awareness,
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I know that Peter Jackson's,
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he only meant to make two of The Hobbit,
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and then he had to make three.
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And in order to do that, he had to expand
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the battle of the five armies into something
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that was much bigger than it was in the original text.
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Jesus Christ.
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Anyway, this is just another example
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of Alex being a movie guy.
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Man, the best part of The Hobbit is that it's a light,
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quick, and awesome story told well.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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You do not need three movies out of that.
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You certainly don't.
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Jesus.
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So Alex, remember that fake NATO guy from earlier
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that Alex saw on Twitter?
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Yeah.
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Alex plays the clip of this guy
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and then sounds like a fucking baby.
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Top member on the committee of NATO enlargement,
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chairman
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fellinger
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of the NATO enlargement committee,
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the NATO conquest committee.
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If you take him in Greenland,
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we will take every single US base in Europe.
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Good, good.
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Here it is.
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If you take it, we take every single base
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of the Americans from Aviano to Rammstein,
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from Romania to all the other military bases,
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will be confiscated and you will lose it.
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And the whole position of American power since World War II,
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if you take Greenland, you have to leave.
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It's very simple, Mrs. Miller.
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This is the leverage we have.
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You need the spaces for global power protection.
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You won't have it.
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And we can defend ourself very well.
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And we will do that without the US nuclear shield,
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without the US troops in Europe,
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without the American bases.
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We will simply run these bases ourself
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and we run your boys home into Chicago and Ohio.
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And goodbye.
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You go extreme, we go extreme as well.
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Be sure about it.
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That is the biggest bluff I've ever seen.
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The bases without our weapons
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and satellite control of the weapons are worthless.
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85% of Europeans in major polls are gonna run
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and aren't gonna be conscripted to fight.
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They want us to get into a direct war with Russia.
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We're basically already in one.
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And so, oh, if you go make a deal with Greenland
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that you claim was independent,
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oh, now we're gonna go to war with you
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and now we're gonna kick all your military off.
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Please get us out of NATO, please.
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And then all these wars with Russia will shut down
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just like that.
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And Europe's got its nukes
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so Russia's not gonna attack you.
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It's been the EU expanding up to the borders of Russia.
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And we know that.
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So these guys hold none of the cards,
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but there they are holding us hostage.
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We gotta get these clips to Trump.
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I can't wait till he reads all these EU officials
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and NATO officials running their mouths.
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Oh my God.
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Unbelievable.
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So again, that guy is not speaking for NATO.
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This is just something Alex found on Twitter.
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Great.
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More importantly though, really think about the mentality
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that Alex is expressing at the end there.
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He's excited about the idea of Trump being informed
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about a geopolitical threat
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that NATO is supposedly making
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by Alex showing him the clip.
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In Alex's conception,
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Trump doesn't know about something like this already,
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which to me sounds like holding comically low expectations
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for a leader.
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If some pundit on MSNBC was playing a clip
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of a foreign leader making a threat against the US
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during the Obama years, and the host said,
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I can't wait until Obama sees that on our show.
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It would come off like a real dumb child.
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I don't wanna bring this up to highlight any hypocrisy
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or play some What About Games.
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I just really wanna stress what Alex's behaviors
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would look like in other contexts.
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He looks very stupid.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I can't wait until Trump sees this.
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Yeah.
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Oh.
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Yeah, there was a power in being willing to look stupid
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and being willing to look insane
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and being willing to look like this a while back, early on.
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This is different though.
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This isn't looking stupid or insane.
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This is trying to look smart
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and winding up looking stupid and insane.
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Yeah.
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And that's fucking crazy.
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Yeah, well, I think it's a mix between
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a really infantile mind that he has
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that is just unescapable.
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He can't get away from that.
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And then the other end of it is him needing to play stupid
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and really make this content dumb
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because the alternative is accepting like,
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here's what we're doing.
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Yeah.
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It's going to be, we're throwing the non-whites
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out of the country and we're taking over all the economies
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and fuck all the stuff that I'm supposed to have
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really held sacred.
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Yeah.
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You know, I wonder, I suppose we'll find out.
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I kind of hope we don't,
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but we've been able to sell military action
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to the military with an enemy.
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There's somebody attacking, there's somebody big,
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there's overarching, something like that.
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But whatever war is going to come next,
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it's impossible not to say it's for stuff.
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So like as an army, do we still have an army of conquest?
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An army that's just like, yeah, fuck it.
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I'll go fight anybody.
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Or are these people actually going to say
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we don't fight for stealing shit?
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I think that, you know, it's an interesting question.
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And I think that unfortunately I don't believe
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that all are principled.
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Sure.
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And I think that you have private armies
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that have certainly been the reason.
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They don't mind?
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No, so like, I think that even if our standing
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volunteer army is like, nah, I'm not into this.
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Yeah, there'll be a way.
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I think you can find somebody.
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Right.
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I just, I mean, I just can't imagine the idea
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of expecting anybody to like deny an illegal order.
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Like at this point, fucking soldier, hello, that's illegal.
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That's illegal.
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Like what everybody who's every,
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everybody's doing illegal shit.
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How do you say no, because it's illegal, right?
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Mm-hmm, I don't know.
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That's tough.
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So speaking of illegal things,
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I shot someone in the face.
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And that happens while Alex,
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I think it actually happened a little bit
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before Alex got on air, but he finds out about it on air.
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And so here is how he begins to cover the story.
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Now, I've been telling you,
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the left can't debate us on policy.
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They can't debate us on economics.
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They can't debate us on culture.
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So all they need to do is create racial division.
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And they've been hyping a new civil war in America
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and having violent groups attack ICE and border patrol
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and openly saying, we need somebody to get killed.
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So we have a new George Floyd.
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So we have a pretext to burn the country down,
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say Trump's a dictator,
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implement the martial law Podesta plan.
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Well, now we may have a candidate of that.
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I'm surprised this hadn't happened earlier
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with all the shooting at ICE and shooting them
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and killing them and ramming them
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and throwing rocks at them and all the rest of it.
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Witnesses report ICE agent shooting woman
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in Minneapolis after a car crash incident.
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Oh, I wonder if it was a ramming.
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So this is the first dimension Alex has of the ICE shooting.
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And you can see how his default is to make the story fit
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his narrative, regardless of what the truth
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in the case may be.
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He's not interested at all in the details.
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He's not reporting on a breaking story.
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He's taking a horrible traumatic event that just happened
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and demanding the audience view it solely through his lens.
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I get that everyone is insane now,
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but personally I'm not going to dignify this situation
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as something worth arguing over.
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It's very clearly an inappropriate shooting carried out
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by an ICE agent against a US citizen
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and it should be treated as a possible homicide.
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I understand heat of the moment type defenses
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and all that sort of thing should be litigated
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by a court and a jury.
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Anybody who sees the details of the shooting
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and say that it's acceptable, that's not a sincere actor.
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You are not coming at this from a sincere place.
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You are a tool of state power and it's fairly obvious.
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With Alex at this point in his show,
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I think his behavior is actually less nefarious
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than it could be.
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And that's only because in this moment,
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he doesn't know anything.
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He has no information.
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This is all just a knee jerk reaction to breaking news
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that ICE killed someone.
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In the InfoWars conspiracy narrative,
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anti-Trump agitators have been trying to get someone killed
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so they can use them as a martyr.
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So it makes total sense for Alex to slot this in
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as the fulfillment of that prophecy.
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He's an idiot and this is inhumanly cynical,
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but I really think that you can only grasp the depths
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of Alex's intentional depravity
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by seeing his reaction to this case
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once he has more information.
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It makes total sense and is boring evil
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the way he responds in the moment.
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It takes more evil and intention later.
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I believe you.
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I believe you, Jesus.
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So as this news starts to come into place,
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people start tweeting about it and everything,
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there start to become visuals.
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And immediately after Alex has already set
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his narrative framework,
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he starts to see a little bit of video.
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Fuck.
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And yeah, the countless videos that I'm seeing,
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get after them, attack them, and visually attacking ICE
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and already walls is out demonizing them.
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They're already, before we even know the facts,
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federal law enforcement shoots civilian in Minneapolis,
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city officials say, acting like federal law enforcement's
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military, see how they spin that?
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Like, oh, a civilian.
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And here's the video, breaking tear gas and pepper spray.
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Oh, turns out we're getting footage now.
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They were running around screaming, attacking,
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going after people.
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And who knows if ICE even shot this lady.
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Again, you never know when they're gonna pull a false flag.
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And they've said one death
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and they're gonna burn down the country.
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And again, a bunch of middle-aged and elderly women
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as usual, white women, virtue signaling,
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running up, screaming, pushing, attacking, ramming cars,
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all of it, and the left always cuts after they ram the car
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or after they attack somebody,
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when they just slam the ground.
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I'm a citizen, I'm innocent, why are you doing it?
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So you can see in that clip,
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Alex beginning to weave visual details
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he's picking up from early videos into the story.
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They're white women virtue signaling.
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He's blending his standard talking points
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and predictive narrative structure
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with the first little details
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that he's been able to take in about this shooting.
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This clip also includes an interesting condemnation
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that I'm gonna pretend I don't quite understand,
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which is Alex complaining about Tim Walz coming out
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and talking about the shooting.
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He says that Walz is out demonizing ICE about it
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when we don't even know the details,
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but Alex himself is out defending ICE about it
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when he definitely knows less about this than Walz.
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If what Walz is doing is wrong and manipulative,
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then what Alex is doing is too, by default.
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If you believe that he's doing so,
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it would be okay to criticize Walz
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for jumping to conclusions.
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Like if you believe that about Walz.
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But if that's the problem,
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then Alex shouldn't be doing the exact same thing too.
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He can't live in both spaces
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without pointing the finger at himself.
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Yeah.
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In the info ward, there is no truth.
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There isn't an objective reality that everyone has to accept
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and events must be judged by.
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There is only narrative.
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Everything that happens is only as true or false
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as the story you tell about it.
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So if you understand Alex's complaint about Walz correctly,
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this is what he's talking about.
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Presumably Walz doesn't have any of the details
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about the shooting and neither does Alex.
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Walz is putting out a narrative
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that it's inappropriate for ICE to kill people
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and Alex's narrative that it's actually okay
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for them to do that.
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Alex doesn't actually care that Walz is talking
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about this case before anyone knows the details.
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That's what Alex's business model is entirely based on
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and it's silly to pretend he cares.
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Yeah.
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All that matters is that you're not,
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you're talking about this case
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before anyone knows the details.
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That's a valid criticism that non-insane people
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can accept about public officials.
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So Alex uses it to attack what he perceives
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as them building a narrative.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it looks like hypocrisy
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for Alex to be making up his mind about a story
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while criticizing Walz for hardy
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having made up his mind about the story,
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but it's not relevant to see this as hypocrisy.
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It's a rhetorical trick that he uses
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so he doesn't have to full throatedly argue his real point.
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It's far easier for him to say that Walz is too eager
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to blame ICE for the shooting compared to what Alex
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really needs to do, which is justify ICE shooting a citizen.
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Yeah.
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He doesn't want to do that.
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Yeah.
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So he hides behind this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it is that form of hypocrisy that is misleading,
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like, you know, just Mitch McConnell's existence.
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You know, it's, you think they're supposed
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to be doing one thing, but if you pull back,
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what's happening is they're trying to cut down a tree
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and they don't give a shit what tool they have to use
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to do it.
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There's no such thing as hypocrisy.
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There's just the tree is up or it's down.
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So I'll lie, I'll say this, I'll say the same thing you say.
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It doesn't, nothing means anything
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except for the tree falling.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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And understanding that things are hypocritical is good.
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In a sense.
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Yes.
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In a sense.
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Learning and understanding what it is.
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If you are able to then grow from the point
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where you understand that this is hypocrisy
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and it does not matter,
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the hypocrisy is a rhetorical trick
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that is being weaponized against you.
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That's where it becomes relevant.
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If you stop at the hypocrisy point,
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that tree's coming down and you're never going to be able
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to even understand what their objective is.
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It is, yeah, that is the early Daily Show.
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That is what they were like,
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see if we expose hypocrisy, but they didn't understand it.
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They didn't understand it then.
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I think people understand it better now.
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I hope so.
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I would hope so.
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But you never know.
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You never know.
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So Alex starts to see some images
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and starts to make up his own story.
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Sure.
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Stay back behind the line.
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Back that up a minute, back it up.
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Notice the bloody airbag.
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So let's back that up.
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What does the vehicle crash into?
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Was this person like all the others ramming vehicles?
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What went on here?
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ICE has been extremely restrained so far.
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So Alex is playing a video
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that shows the aftermath of the shooting
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where there's a bloody airbag deployed in the car.
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That was because the victim was shot while driving away
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and her car then rammed into another car
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because she was dead behind the wheel.
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Alex knows nothing about this situation.
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He's just making stuff up about the little snippets of video
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he's cold watching on the show
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and then trying to use whatever details he sees
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as proof of his predetermined narrative.
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There's a bloody airbag
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because this person rammed an ICE vehicle
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before getting shot.
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That's a possibility that Alex sees
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as maybe working to justify the shooting.
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So he's throwing it out there.
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That's probably what happened because that works for me.
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Yeah.
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It's a sign of a liar.
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Yeah.
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It's like, I mean, these people should just have a board.
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You know, they should have a writer's room
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and they should have a board that just is like,
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what are all the possible reasons people might accept
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where it's okay to shoot somebody
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and then just pull them out at random whenever you need them.
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But that's what Alex does.
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Exactly.
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He might as well be that.
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Exactly.
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It's just fucking, it's disgusting.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is developing this idea
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that it was a ramming situation.
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Makes it okay for ICE to kill somebody.
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I guess so.
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Yep.
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All the way back to the ride.
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All the way back to the ride.
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If you can't do it, put your hands up.
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Yeah, this is a clean machine.
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Look at all the crash smash vehicles.
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Back that up.
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Look at her vehicle and then the smash vehicles around it.
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What do you think was going on there?
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You think it was a ramming?
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I'd say about a 95% chance.
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That's a deadly weapon.
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You've seen all over the country.
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They've been so restrained so far.
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They know they're gonna have Soros DA
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trying to put him in prison.
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You know they've been highly restrained so far.
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We're already hearing from Jen Walls and all them
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that this is the bloody shirt they wanted to wave.
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Start over again.
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So yeah, you can hear Alex already being defensive
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about criticisms that people had.
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Like the idea that the officer fled the scene.
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Yeah.
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Which he did.
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Like whether you want to say he fled
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because of being afraid for his safety
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or to get out of there.
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Sure.
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Because he shot somebody.
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Yeah.
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Who cares?
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He did do that.
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Yeah.
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And that's what he did for the federal building.
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So like this is a criticism that people had
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and you can hear Alex picking up on these things
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and justifying each new thing
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that he's seeing someone say on Twitter.
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Yep.
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And it's not a sincere commentator.
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No.
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No.
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It's almost like a media surrogate.
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It's fucked.
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It's fucked because the point of it is like
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for most people who, like if you wanted IceGone,
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you didn't need this to happen to push you over the edge.
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Nope.
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You know?
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But everybody is somewhat conscious
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that maybe some people need something like this
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to push them over.
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Right?
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And Alex is very conscious of that.
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And so all of this is focused on making sure
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enough people don't get pushed over that line of like,
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let's actually just fucking get rid of this shit.
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Well.
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Let's actually just be fucking done with it.
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I would argue that there's a little bit of that.
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It's pacification on one level.
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Sure.
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And then I think on another level,
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it is also hoping that people go over the edge
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on the other side.
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Sure.
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And start attacking protesters.
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Be like it's totally okay.
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Like think that they're helping Ice
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by killing a protester or ramming their car
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into a protest or something like that.
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So I think it's double pronged.
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But at the end of the day,
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it is all in service of protecting and justifying
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the state power that he wants exerted.
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Yep.
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It sucks.
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It's fucking bullshit.
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It really is.
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So Alex plays some more video and he's taking this all in.
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And you could just clearly see his editorial stance.
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You got a bunch of leftists to get up your radio listener
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like hyenas chasing everybody around,
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attacking, trying to get their provocation.
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I can't believe they could even get Ice to do this job.
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This is how they invade us, human trafficking, all of it.
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Blocking the vehicles, all the stuff they do.
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Cause they're the white liberals.
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They're the saviors.
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They're the good guys.
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It's fascinating to hear Alex mumble this kind of stuff
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over these videos because his career is based on
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way tamer videos than this one.
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And his insistence that they were all the police state.
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He spent years of his career whining about a video
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where troops are doing a crowd control drill
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and some teen improvised a line about how they can't
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do this to him cause he's a citizen.
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The optics of that were so scandalous that Alex
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basically declared war.
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All that shit seems so quaint and dumb now.
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This woman was killed by federal agents on the streets
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in the United States.
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It's not a hypothetical.
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It's not some kid role playing at some national guard
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training exercise.
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This is real and you can see where Alex's loyalties lie
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by his immediate response to this.
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And duh.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I just don't know if I could be on any team.
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I don't know if I could be on any team that could find
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a reason to justify this, you know?
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Just like, I don't even, I don't care if it is justified.
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It is not doable.
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You cannot do it.
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You can't.
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Even if you think it's right, even if you think it's right
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in your head, you cannot do it.
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Yep.
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The worst possible acceptable angle is this reveals
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a unacceptable force.
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Yeah.
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You know, like this requires a deep level of congressional
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investigation.
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This guy needs to be stripped of his gun.
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Whatever you like.
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And position.
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That's the least acceptable version.
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And yeah, once you get to the point where there's
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justification involved, I think you have to be so far gone
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that I just don't even know what to do.
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I mean, because at the core of it, that guy shouldn't even
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have been able to murder somebody.
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That guy shouldn't have had a gun.
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That guy shouldn't have been in a government agency.
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That government agency shouldn't have existed.
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It shouldn't be here.
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None of it should have even been able to happen.
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Right, there's layers of abstraction that come far before
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the actual incident itself.
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And I think those are all valid conversations to have.
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I think people should.
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But as it relates to exactly what happened, I don't think
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that there is a good faith reading of it that cannot just
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be like, this isn't okay.
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Yeah.
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And I think that that is a line that people should
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understand.
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Yeah, I mean, if you see something different from me,
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then we don't need to talk.
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Right.
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Because whatever you see makes the world so completely
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different from the way I see it that we cannot,
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we don't communicate.
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You're an alien to me.
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If you see something different, it means one of two things.
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It means either you are someone like Alex who profits
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off seeing something different.
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Right.
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And you are trying to pied piper people into a negative
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state.
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Right.
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Or you are lying about what you value.
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You are saying that this is okay because you want ICE
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to kill people.
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Yeah.
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And I just don't think that you can have sincere motives
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and justify this.
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Can't.
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No.
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And I won't engage.
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How could you?
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So Alex, I think one of the things that he wants to do is
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to make sure that all the people who didn't get shot at the
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protest, they all look as bad as possible.
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Of course they were.
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They're all so bad.
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They're outside agitators too.
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Liberals out here don't have jobs.
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Most of them are managing NGOs.
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They're getting the money.
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They're out there to ensure all of this.
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The Somalis are their bag men.
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And they don't want their precious illegal aliens with huge
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rap sheets and convictions for rape and murder
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being deported.
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These are agents with federal court orders,
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absolutely constitutional, doing their duty, surrounded
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and under attack.
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This is the UN globalist model.
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You have the UN head of the security council in Minnesota,
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in Minnesota, Ohio, running large parts of the scam.
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They're finding individuals with hundreds of millions
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of dollars going into their coffers a year now.
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This is all about robbing the country,
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bringing the nation down.
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And Trump's following his duty.
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He's doing a hundred percent supporting him.
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Which is why he's robbing Venezuela.
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We'll see how they try to spin it.
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And you know, in this hysteria,
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we hope the woman pulls through,
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but we're not going to get the true story from the left out
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there telling us what happened.
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We've got to actually see and get the facts here.
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But ICE has not really made any mistakes so far.
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I wouldn't expect them not to make some.
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So this could be their George Floyd 2.0 moment.
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Insane, just insane.
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I genuinely, like, I don't know.
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It has to be something because I just genuinely don't know
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how you can be so fucking political brain rotted
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that you can look at this and think that there is a right
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or a left, you know, like fuck off, fuck off.
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This is not, this is not like-
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Are you arguing that you're above the left right paradigm?
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This should redistribute wealth
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is worse than fucking capitalists.
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No, this guy is a government agent who shot somebody.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I think that-
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Sorry, government agent who murdered somebody.
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But like murder.
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But I think that it's even kind of foolish
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to look at it as political because it's not.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, it's cultural.
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The idea of this, the idea of framing it this way
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is insane.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And arguing on that front, I think is a fool's errand.
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Yeah, it's absurd.
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It is essentially the way that I see someone like Alex
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and people who would defend this is it's a proxy.
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It's a, this is a symbol of something that they want,
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which is state terrorism deployed against the people
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they don't think deserve to be here.
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Which does include people who would stand up
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for the rights of immigrants and the like.
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So I think that no matter what,
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no matter what the circumstances,
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you're going to get the same outcome.
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For them, he's an avatar.
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It's not left or right.
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It's not political.
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It's not about the constitution.
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None of that shit matters.
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Nope.
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I would just, here's the thing.
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Here's the thing that sucks, right?
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Because if there were enough people, right,
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who are like, hey, I think we should openly say
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that the state should be a terrorist run organization
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that merges people we don't like, right?
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Then we could just fight them.
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But because there's not enough, they have to lie about it.
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And that's terrible because people get tricked so easily.
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It's so hard to know everything that's going on.
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And like, I think that a pretty decent argument
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could be made that the reason that they're doing this
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in Minneapolis is because they couldn't do it in LA
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or New York or Chicago.
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Because people would fucking fight them.
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Yeah, no, there'd be no, yeah.
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There is enough, like the large enough cities
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they could not pull this kind of shit off on.
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No, there would be real burning of cars.
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Yeah.
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That shit would go down.
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And I think that, yeah, that's why the full throated
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argument isn't being made.
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Because the power base does not exist
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for them to terrorize all of us.
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Right.
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They can terrorize certain amounts at a time.
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But they're not strong enough.
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Nope.
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And fuck them.
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Fuck them.
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So Alex has media star Bobby Barnes on the show.
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Because it's a legal thing.
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No, no, he was gonna come on already.
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Oh, okay.
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Because they wanted to talk about the New World Order
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that Trump is making with Venezuela.
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Fucking hell.
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Barnes is a little bit against it.
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He's a little bit against the Venezuela thing.
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He's iffy.
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And so the two of them were gonna talk about that.
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Right.
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All right, riding shotgun with us is great lawyer,
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constitutional expert, real historian Robert Barnes
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on the global political realignment happening,
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the seizure of this Russian tanker,
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the militias rising up in Venezuela
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against US regime change.
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The US saying they're about to take Greenland.
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Denmark saying that'll be an act of war,
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that they will go to war with us.
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They'll shoot first, ask questions later, close quote.
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This is all because the old order has fallen.
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Now there's a scrambling for the New Order.
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Just say you want a New World Order.
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Come on, man, I dare you.
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I mean, just- Just do it.
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Yeah, come on. Just do it.
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Come on.
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We want an apartheid based New World Order.
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Just do it.
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Just say it,
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because I wanna edit it together with George H.W. Bush
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that you're so scared of saying New World Order.
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Yeah, that'd be fun.
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I wanna make music videos of you saying,
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oh, we're bringing in a New World Order.
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Come on, that'd be fun.
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I mean, you kinda gotta.
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Come on, dumbass.
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And it's really, it's not even your fault.
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Any time-based modifier is going to look stupid
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as time goes on.
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Like, the idea of post-modernism.
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Fuck off.
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Start over.
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We gotta redo all words.
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Yeah, we can take, we can find new descriptors.
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Yeah, we can't be having like post, post, post.
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Get the fuck outta here.
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New, new, New World Order.
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A fresh World Order.
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Nah, nah, see, that's great.
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But any modifier that bases itself on time
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is gonna look stupid.
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Yeah.
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So also stupid is Robert Barnes.
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And Alex doesn't really care too much that he's there.
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He can wait because Nick Sordore
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is on the ground in Minnesota.
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Goddamn it.
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We'll go to Barnes in a moment.
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But first, we just talked to Nick Sordore,
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the incredible on the ground reporter,
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also Infowars reporter,
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hosts his Sunday show with us.
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Nick Sordore is on the ground embedded with DHS.
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They have confirmed to him that a woman,
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just in the last hour and a half,
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tried to ram their vehicle in one of these neighborhoods
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where this rapid reaction force of 2000 went in
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to arrest illegal aliens with long wrap sheets.
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And DHS has said that she tried to ram the vehicle.
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Last hour, I looked at raw footage
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and you see what looks like a bunch of, you know,
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rammed vehicles in her car and the bloody airbag.
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So it looked pretty obvious to me
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that you've got vehicles rammed
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and then you've got a DHS vehicle there
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and you see the bloody airbag.
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She has now reportedly been pronounced dead,
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according to DHS sources.
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We just talked to Nick Sordore,
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he's coming on next hour, on the ground.
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So Nick Sordore is not embedded with the DHS
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as a journalist.
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He's there as a mouthpiece of the state.
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He's there to spin events in a way
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that state media surrogates like Alex
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can then report to their audience in ways
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that defend the narrative that maintains state power.
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This narrative that the victim was trying to ram vehicles
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is the first attempt to make something stick
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that exonerates the ICE agent, but it ends up not working.
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They later pivot to accusing her
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of trying to run over an agent once more video is released,
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but if that hadn't happened,
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it's likely that this would have sufficed
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for most of Trump's audience and allowed them to move on,
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which is the role that Nick plays.
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He has been so seduced by proximity to power
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and the Trump administration treating him
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like he has something valid to offer
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in terms of media or journalism that he's compromised.
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He's been captured by the state
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and they can freely just lie to him
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and he will report the lie on Twitter
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and it will travel around to folks like Alex.
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He's an essential piece and granted, it's not just him.
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There's a bunch of hims,
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but yeah, they serve their purpose in the chain.
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Yeah, you'd think after watching Spicer go,
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you'd be like, this is a short-term gig
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at the very least, at the very most.
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What about the mooch?
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See?
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Don't be a mouthpiece of these pieces of shit.
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No, but that's where Nick Sorento is smart.
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He's not official.
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He doesn't have an actual job.
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He's a Twitter personality and influencer.
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Yeah, that's the sweet spot.
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Worst thing.
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It is, but it's also the sweet spot
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for making those sweet bucks.
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Yeah, just having a nice little lie shield
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around yourself at all times.
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Yeah. Great.
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So Alex talks a little bit about ICE here
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and I think that we all need to recognize
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that this is a huge problem.
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I'm just surprised they could get ICE to even do this.
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It's such a dangerous job.
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Go another way!
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Move!
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Go another way!
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You gotta do something!
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And you've got all these virtues
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signaling white people out here so pissed
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at murderers and rapists and criminals and fraudsters.
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I mean, they got federal orders from courts, folks.
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They're busting drug houses and fentanyl houses
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and human traveling houses.
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Stop!
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Telltale, they've got umbrellas to block their faces.
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That's an Antifa move.
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Get out the way!
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Get out the way of the truck!
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Move!
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Move!
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They're trying to leave.
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They're blocking the road, attacking them.
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No!
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No!
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This is the provocation they want.
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This is what they're looking for.
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No!
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And then if Trump doesn't execute federal law,
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certain deported illegal aliens,
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he's capitulated to them
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and they control the blue cities.
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These are really excellent.
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These are really expeditionary forces
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into areas captured by the left in America.
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Look at 1917, the Russians took them
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in a couple of years in control of all of Russia.
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First they only had Moscow.
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The left ones control the main cities.
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We just can't live like this.
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Like, on the one hand, it's unacceptable
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to view areas that vote differently than you want
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as enemy-held lands that need to be invaded.
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Once you have that view,
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there's no point never trying to engage in politics.
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Why allow voting if voting the way
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you don't want me to means you should get to invade
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and terrorize my city?
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On the other hand, it's particularly unacceptable
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for Alex to hold this view.
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It's such a betrayal of what he's supposed to stand for
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that his hardcore followers should burn down his studio.
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Like, this is a person who clearly is saying,
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hey, I fucked with you this whole time.
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I didn't mean any of that shit.
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Anybody who has sacrificed for what they thought
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Info Wars was about,
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people who've been alienated from their families
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because they wouldn't shut the fuck up about Ron Paul
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or some dumb Bilderberg shit,
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people who have died because of this
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or lost loved ones to, like, this,
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they should be furious at Alex.
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He's telling them that this doesn't matter.
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The mentality Alex is expressing here
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is one that you can't really allow to exist
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because engaging with it ends up becoming a trap.
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If your political enemies are actually enemy combatants,
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then politics is useless.
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If we accept that framing,
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then we become incompatible with each other.
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And I reject that.
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I don't think that people who have different political views
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like in rural America, in deep red areas
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should be invaded by the government
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in order to stop them from being racist even.
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Enjoy.
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If you're not bothering anybody, nobody cares.
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Right.
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You can't operate in public spaces with racism.
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Like you can't.
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You can't have a whites only business.
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And the government has an interest in protecting that.
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So if you're doing that,
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I understand the police being like, you can't do this.
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But if you're just racist,
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the state shouldn't invade you because you're racist.
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That's the idea.
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That's the whole thing.
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Right. Yeah.
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And you can't have expeditionary forces.
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You can't do this.
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No.
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You can't look at things this way or else we're done.
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It's done.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'll listen to propaganda.
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I'll listen to you spout the state line over music.
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But if you're saying it over footage of that,
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let's fight, let's just go.
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Let's just do it and then get it done.
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Well, but here's the thing.
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I can't hang with Alex saying that shit over that video.
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Right. Fuck off.
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And you're going to be looked at
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as the person who can't use decorum
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and you must resort to violence.
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I don't.
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I don't use decorum.
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Fuck them.
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Right.
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But what I'm trying to get at is the point
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that Alex is making is if you are not in line.
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Those are the, it's fighting words.
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It's extermination fighting words.
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Yes.
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You are not people unless you are who I determined
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to be people.
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Yes.
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Which is not in your control.
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It is always going to be in his control.
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That's the idea.
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I get to determine who's real.
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And it will never be like sincerely applied.
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It will never be coherently articulated.
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It will always exist.
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There will always be enemies
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to send expeditionary forces against.
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And Alex fucking understands this.
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His career is built on making people scared about it.
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It's fucking garbage.
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So anyway, Robert Barnes.
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Sure.
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Media star Bobby Barnes.
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Yeah, he's one of the good ones.
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One of the best.
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One of the best lawyers.
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Man, he's great.
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One of the best constitutional scholars.
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Probably.
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And film critics.
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I didn't know that.
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Robert Barnes, thank you so much for being here.
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What do you make of what's happening
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in Minneapolis, Minnesota right now?
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Well, I mean, it's the one battle after another script.
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The, I mean, the main movie that Hollywood is promoting
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to win the actually best film for Oscars,
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even though, you know, by most real critics,
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it's not a very particularly cinematically effective film.
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Who's a real critic?
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A particularly well-known director.
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Nor was it popular at the box office itself
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despite having some big name actors
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like DiCaprio and others as part of the cast.
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Sean Penn, you know, Benedictine Gaudelatoro, you name it.
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But the core of the film is to celebrate
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Antifa-type violence targeting ice facilities
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and ice individuals.
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Sniping and bombing and terrorism and hot sex
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when you do it.
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Exactly.
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These fucking clowns are so embarrassing,
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rattling off this bullshit
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when they clearly haven't seen the movie
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they're talking about.
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One battle after another doesn't glorify
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Antifa-style violence against ice facilities,
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but you might think that if you only saw the trailer
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and saw a bunch of right-wing dipshits
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complaining about the trailer on social media.
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The actual movie is fairly indicting
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of how that kind of violence is frequently carried out
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by people who are superficially interested in revolution,
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but what they're really motivated by
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is the money that they make from bank robberies
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or the excitement they get out of creating
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their own criminal branding.
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The real revolutionary action in that movie
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is love and family.
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Leonardo DiCaprio loving and caring for his daughter
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creates a better future,
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not the bonds that he made when he was younger.
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Benicio del Toro is able to create meaningful resistance
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not by committing acts of terrorism,
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but by creating networks that protect children
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and vulnerable people.
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Also, is fucking Barnes saying that Paul Thomas Anderson
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is a no-name director?
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The guy who did Boogie Nights, Magnolia,
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and There Will Be Blood?
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The 11-time Oscar nominee.
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No, no.
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What movies has he made that are widely celebrated
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as the best of his generation?
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Punch Drunk Love.
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Come on, what?
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Like some sort of Gangs of New York?
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I legitimately get them not liking one battle after another.
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I have no problem with that.
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It's fine.
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If you don't like it, whatever.
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It just sucks that they won't even watch the movies
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they're pretending to reveal
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all the globalists' big evil plots.
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It's fucking insane.
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If you think this is predictive programming, watch it.
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Don't just watch the fucking trailer.
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No, the worst thing I can do is dig past hitting gold.
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Yeah.
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And it turns out that all gold is on the surface.
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It's amazing how that works, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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Somehow other people are out there mining.
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Terrible idea.
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Just grab this shit on the ground.
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It's always true.
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It's so funny to be like,
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oh yeah, Alex reads the white papers and the documents.
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He gets really into the weeds about all this stuff.
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He gets behind the scenes.
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You watch the fucking Hobbit third movie
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and the trailer from one battle after another
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and decided you have a fucking worldview.
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Never dug deep, dick.
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Anyway, Barnes doesn't like one battle after another.
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Well, that'll happen.
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Once this was done,
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I thought there should have been
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a lot more cultural condemnation of this film
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and its pernicious.
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I mean, I said that this film has the potential
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to be what, you mean, what Birth of a Nation was.
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First movie ever shown in the White House
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by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson.
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He was a film that celebrated the Ku Klux Klan.
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Come on, buddy.
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And what happened within a year,
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the Ku Klux Klan took off across the country,
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not only in the South, but in the Midwest.
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You know things.
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Places like, you know, all over the place in New York,
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parts of the country, all parts of the country,
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in ways that the Klan had never been before.
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And it was a pernicious, proto-fascistic force.
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I mean, it was really what was behind, you know,
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Tulsa, Oklahoma, when that, you know,
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didn't they burn down?
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Exactly.
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And I looked this up, there were dozens of films
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the last three years, like this big budget one
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and like Civil War.
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So this is what they're planning.
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I just noticed that this woman got shot
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like an hour and a half ago.
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Instantly, the Democrats said it was a murder,
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George Floyd 2.0.
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And then you see all the smash vehicles,
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looks like a ramming, DHS says it was.
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That fits, we'll see the truth of this.
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We don't just take that as, you know,
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they're telling us the truth every time though.
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They've been very accurate so far.
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Fucking hell.
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But I don't think they're gonna care one way or another.
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They're just gonna spin this.
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What do you, how do you think we counter this?
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They're going to spin this no matter what.
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How do we spin this no matter what?
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Also just watch the fucking movie.
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Yeah, let's not even bother talking if that's your,
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if you've already had a foregone conclusion
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of what they're doing and what you're doing,
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then just don't even bother doing it.
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You've canceled each other out.
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You're just wasting my fucking time.
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So Alex and Barnes, they are like,
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hey, you know, it's weird that we have a secret police.
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It's-
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It is weird.
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It's weird that they're just like covering their faces
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in military uniforms.
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Probably bad, probably real bad.
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It's the kind of stuff that InfoWars
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has been historically against.
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Pretty Nazi shit.
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We kind of need them to keep doing it
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or else people will know who they are.
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Weird.
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I mean, I am bothered by the fact
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that somehow protesters know where ICE is operating.
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That's one key problem.
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But putting that aside, the other problem is the,
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at least perception wise,
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is should they stay masked and in military uniforms?
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I think that's the optics that they want.
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The other side wants.
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So if those guys were-
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Well, you know, Hakeem Jeffries and all them a year ago
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said, we're going to dox you.
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We're going to harass you.
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We're going to come after you.
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I'm surprised they go out and get shot at
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and bricks thrown at when they're just serving court orders.
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And I'm not all for paramilitary masks,
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but that's when you do it,
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you wear a mask when you're being hunted.
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It's one thing if you wear a mask to be secret police,
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but if you wear a mask
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because you're following a court order
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and they're hunting you,
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I guess they're just supposed to go out and say,
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by the way, here's my home address.
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Come kill me.
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That's the problem.
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That's a conundrum.
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That's what's curious your thoughts
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because they're just finding in the polling data
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that it's resonating negatively.
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And the Democrats are getting their net plus
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out of the fact that, as you know,
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they have to be dressed the way they are
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to protect their own safety personally.
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And so that they're not doxed,
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so that they're not harassed,
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so that all these things are happening anyway,
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but that it doesn't follow them home.
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And so very understandable
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and acceptable concern on their side,
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but it's playing into the democratic narrative,
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the democratic narrative that they're going to rescript
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in all of this.
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Because you know, they're going to,
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as you point out, they're going to retell this story.
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This story is going to be nice,
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innocent, sweet middle America protester,
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summarily executed by Trump's military force.
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Now this is part of why I'm concerned about,
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you know, the Venezuelan other things
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is that certain things make that perception easier
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for the media to get away with.
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The truth?
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I totally agree.
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We did this just broke.
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So it turns out DHS told the truth.
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Oh wow, that's breaking.
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So yeah, I think that these kinds of things
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that Trump is doing do make it easier
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to form a pattern of behavior.
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And that is inconvenient for someone in Robert's position.
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Yeah.
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But also if this argument holds,
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why should any cop not be secret?
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There's a chance of reprisal from criminals
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for carrying out your duty as a cop.
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Like why should any cop be public?
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And then when we're on the subject,
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why should any soldier?
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Why should any lawyer?
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Why should any judge?
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Why should any politician?
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Why should anybody, why should you know who anybody is?
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There's a danger to knowing who anybody is.
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Why should podcasters use their real names?
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That's a good point.
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This is dangerous.
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We could get caught out.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I think that this is stupid.
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Yeah.
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If circumstances were different,
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they would never make these kinds of arguments.
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I can't imagine, and listen,
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I don't know all of human history.
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I will admit that.
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I'll be the first to admit that.
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But I also know of zero situations
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where the masked secret police
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turn out to be the good guys.
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Yeah.
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I've not seen any one, not one.
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I'm running through,
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the thing that makes me wanna fight with you about it
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and argue.
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Yeah, it's just, because you have to.
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Cartoons.
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Cartoons, yeah, that is fair.
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I think there might be some instances.
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That's fair.
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Like of GI Joe or something.
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Right.
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No, even Snake is the bad guy.
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But do any of the Joes wear masks?
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No, because masks are big henchmen energy.
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That's true.
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You cannot be the hero.
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That's why, listen, frankly,
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if you're gonna be in ice,
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don't wear a mask because you're a fucking henchman.
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You're a henchman.
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Ugh, ugh.
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James Bond villain lives through James Bond murdering
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hundreds of henchmen.
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James Bond lays waste to henchmen.
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And the bad guy gets to go home at the end.
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Right.
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Here is where I think that the Proud Boys got it right.
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They had like Rufio Pan Man.
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That's true.
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And based Stick Man.
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They knew what they were doing.
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They were be-bopping Rocksteady.
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Yep.
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You know, like they weren't just normal
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Foot Clan soldiers who were walking around
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who were dispensable.
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That's what I'm saying.
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You need branding.
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You can't be a henchman.
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Okay, so unfortunately.
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And if you don't have a face, you're a henchman.
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Well, that's not true.
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You can have a face, but maybe it's like a funny mask.
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Sure.
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Like the dead presidents?
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No, I was thinking like a be-bop Rocksteady mask.
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Like literally.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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Sure, sure.
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As long as you've got some, but that's again,
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that's uniqueness.
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That's standing out.
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Yeah.
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The henchman dresses the same
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in the same military fatigues and the same mask.
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But unfortunately I think that what we're beating
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around the bush of advocating for is pageantry.
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100%.
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And maybe more.
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If our law enforcement were essentially the Power Rangers,
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we would all be a lot more accepting
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of the terrible shit they do.
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Because fuck, they've got style, they've got panache.
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They look like they're doing something important.
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But they're also like, there's a real threat.
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There's big monsters and shit.
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Sure.
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Like.
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Well.
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Look.
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Listen, if it's true crime there,
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we could use zords for some things.
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If ICE was fighting against King Ghidorah,
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then like we'd have a different conversation.
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It would be a different conversation.
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It would be.
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That's true.
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So Alex has decided that he, there's some breaking news
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and he has exonerated ICE of any wrongdoing.
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Funny how that worked.
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But he has not yet watched the new videos.
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Well, that is how.
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We did this just broke.
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So it turns out DHS told the truth.
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Didn't matter, Tim Walz, all them jumped the gun
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within minutes and said, no,
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it's George Floyd.
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They murdered her.
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No, here it is.
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Breaking video shows the moment a woman tried to run over
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ICE agents with her vehicle in Minneapolis,
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resulting in her being shot.
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And it goes on them attacking them,
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throwing rocks at them, bottles, all of it, agents.
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So again, breaking video shows the moment a woman
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tried to run over ICE agents with her vehicle
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in Minneapolis resulting in her being shot.
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Tim Walz calling ICE Gestapo is exactly
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why this stuff happens.
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Shame on Walz and Mayor Fry.
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Fry said two weeks ago, ICE is going to be killed.
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She got crowds attacking people doing their lawful duty.
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Then them spinning when she got shot saying they just killed
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her in cold blood, leftist out there on camera saying,
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oh, she was just innocent.
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They just shot her for no reason.
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Again, paid professional liars finally getting
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what they wanted to.
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When you look at the faces of the people,
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once you've been shot, they look like it's Christmas.
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These agitators are so happy.
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They have apps the Democrats have set up,
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different cities like LA and others have rapid reaction
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forces to send these people out to harass them.
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This is their plan.
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Let's go to the footage from the start.
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Here it is.
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Alex hasn't watched this at all.
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And he's really, really going hard.
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He's going super hard into this proves it.
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Everything is proven.
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ICE is great.
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So then he plays the video.
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Oh, yeah, that should be it.
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You don't do that.
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They have not watched it in advance.
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So they don't know.
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Why are they so stupid?
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And almost immediately, him and Barnes both seem dazed
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and are like, uh-oh.
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Well, this is what they've been looking for.
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We can't really see the footage from the agent's perspective.
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But it looks like he is in front of the vehicle
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when she does that.
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Could you argue either way?
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Did he overreact?
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This is the hysteria, the thrilling thing,
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screaming at him, yelling at him.
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They've been wanting this.
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They've been waiting for this.
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We'll have to get the body cam footage and the other angles.
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But this could go either way here, Barnes.
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What do you think?
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Yeah, I agree.
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Because, yeah, I'm glad you re-showed that.
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Because that's what I was curious, the angle,
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that particular camera angle we don't have,
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where the actual ICE officers are.
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I assume these are ICE officers
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rather than people guarding ICE.
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Seems to be a little bit taken aback.
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You know, like a little bit less.
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I'm glad you showed a different angle.
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Is that what you say whenever ICE has been exonerated,
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everything they've said is true?
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Yeah, that's not how it works.
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We're all good.
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And then you watch the video and you're like,
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I think this could go either way.
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Yeah.
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That's downgrading it quite a bit.
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That means this video looks really, really bad.
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You went from 100% certain to 50-50.
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That's a real big drop.
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Yes.
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That's a big drop.
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So the two of them are struggling to sit in this space
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where they're like, self-defense, man.
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I think we're against the government murdering people.
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But on the other hand,
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we're for the government murdering people?
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It's, ah, could go either way.
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It looks like his hands are basically down
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while the shots are going off.
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So we don't know who was out of camera angle there.
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Right.
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I am wondering who was it that did the,
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I'm thinking maybe it's the middle guy
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that pulled the, that did the shot.
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Well, note to the left,
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if you go out and surround people
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and start ramming them and bashing their cars
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and throwing water bottles and rocks at them and screaming
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and all the rest of it,
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and then you got vehicles driving around,
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you know, it's not a safe place.
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It's not safe to be doing that.
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Oh, and in my view, this is likely self-defense.
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The, it's not quite as clear as it could be, I should say.
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Eh, yeah, boo, bye.
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This is not, this is bad.
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Like Barnes, he's just sputtering like,
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I don't want to say this is self-defense.
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We were primed, we were ready to defend this.
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But now I'm seeing this and I'm not going along with it.
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This isn't as clear as I want it to be.
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I'll tell you this Barnes,
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Cochran wasn't like, I don't know, this glove might fit.
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You know, that wasn't how that worked.
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This is such a betrayal of their own like, oh no.
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Their own self image has been attacked.
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They're seeing this video and they're like,
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ah shit, we have to defend this.
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Not even we're cool with this.
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Fucking hell, this is bad.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a space
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that you can choose not to live in.
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Yep.
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You can be like, oh, well then I don't defend it.
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Yeah, except when you play the types of games
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that someone like Alex does, someone like Barnes does,
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you do have to play those games
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because you don't have another choice.
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The alternative is to like tell the audience the truth.
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Well, we're going to do something
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for the first time ever guys.
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That's some fucking bullshit.
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And you know what else?
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Everything I've ever said is some fucking bullshit too.
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We got to stop this.
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Now there's another interesting thing
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that I think is going on that I want to call attention to,
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which is Alex's, once it's clear that Barnes
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has a little bit of reservation about this,
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and Alex kind of does too.
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On account of it's a murder.
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Alex says, hey, there's a message to the left.
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If you're going out there and you're throwing the bottles
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and all this stuff, you notice
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that he doesn't actually say then.
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He doesn't finish the if then statement
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because he never does.
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Well, the then statement is then it's okay
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for the government to murder you.
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Yes, and it is right for them to kill you.
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As you can see right now, I will defend the government.
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To all my InfoWars listeners, just to be clear,
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if you are murdered by an ICE person
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because you might reasonably,
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having listened to InfoWars for your entire life,
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decided that the government murdering people is wrong
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and then they murder you,
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I will say they were right to do it.
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You're probably Antifa.
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Even though it's because of you listening to me
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that they did it.
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And I think that there's something
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that goes through a lot of Alex's content
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that is this, I'm gonna say the first part
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of the conditional statement,
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but I'm not gonna say the second part
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because your mind fills it in for you.
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He never has to say the then part.
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He only has to say the premise
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and your brain makes the conclusion for you
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and then he doesn't have to.
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He doesn't have to take responsibility for the, yeah.
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He doesn't feel like he's responsible for saying,
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if you do this, then the police should be able to kill you.
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Because maybe I was meaning to say something different.
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You're the one who jumped to conclusions.
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You obviously brought your own baggage to that
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as opposed to correctly looking at the situation
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and observing what I'm saying.
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Yeah, I think he does that a lot.
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Yeah, maybe.
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So we have one last clip here
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and I think that it's because
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I want to leave with this impression.
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These guys know what they're doing.
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I hadn't seen him in the earlier video.
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Now I think it looks like he,
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the guy that was in front of the vehicle
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that she drove towards is the shooter here,
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but we're not sure yet.
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Well, they're going to definitely try
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to have a civil war over this.
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They finally got something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, and they're going to keep building to this
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and that's where, I mean, the,
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I mean, we have to enforce the laws and we can't,
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as you note, allow them to just hijack cities
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by threats of violence.
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On the flip side, politically,
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how Trump handles it in perception is going to matter too,
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because it's unfortunately the reality of it.
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This is a narrative war as much as it is a,
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you know, a digital war and an online war.
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That's right, and once he learns more,
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you know, depending on what the facts are,
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he's just saying, very sad they attack everybody,
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very sad it's bedlam and insane,
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so terrible they shot up all these ice facilities
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and shot up the vans and killed these agents over here
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and did all this and just show a reel of their violence
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for like five minutes and say, this is,
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and show MSNBC headlines, we need blood,
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we need to get in their faces till they kill one of us,
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then we have a pretext.
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What's crazy is they admit the Podesta plan that
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and they admitted all these shows, this is what they want.
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It's so crazy, so I just think Trump points out,
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they're the ones that wanted this,
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they're the ones that pushed this.
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These guys are very clearly struggling
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with having just watched this video live on air
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and needing to make it fit the narrative
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that they're required to sell.
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On its face, this video is a murder.
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You can't watch it and come away with the impression
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that it was probably cool and justified.
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You need motivated reasoning to reach that conclusion.
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The narrative game that Alex had chosen to play
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was totally fine until that video came out,
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but now the story runs counter
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to what you would instinctually feel from watching that tape
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and Alex just played it live on the show.
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You could hear it so clearly in Barnes.
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He knows what his job demands of him,
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but he's viscerally uncomfortable with having to show a video
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and tell the audience that their eyes are lying to them.
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The Info Wars narrative had already been set
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and then the video plays and it's not as clear
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as Barnes thought, which is fucking uncomfortable.
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But keep in mind, this is all just rhetorical narrative games
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and Barnes knows that.
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He and Alex both thought that they could take this one
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head on and try to sell the story
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that this was an unhinged Antifa protester
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who got killed because she was ramming her car
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into ICE vehicles, but once that video was seen,
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they knew they couldn't do that
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and they needed to retreat to narrative.
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Now it really doesn't matter what happened
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in this specific instance.
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Trump needs to play videos of unrelated instances
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of ICE being attacked.
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They don't want to argue about the specific details
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of the shooting and how it unfolded
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because they just watched the video
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and they're pretty sure it's going to be bad.
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So now the shooting can really only be understood
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as part of a long line of events.
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Sure, maybe the shooting was bad,
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but it happened because the left and Antifa
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forced ICE to act like this.
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Maybe the shooting wasn't self-defense,
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but if you look at the big picture, it totally was.
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This is the information war and Barnes and Alex
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both fully understand their part in it.
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In the moment when they've been forced to watch a woman
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be killed in the street and they then have to turn around
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and defend it, you can see how eager Alex is to do his job.
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Barnes is mildly uncomfortable and he sounds kind of like,
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I don't want to do this, but Alex is a fucking monster
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and he jumps in without looking both feet down.
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Moved on like it, like.
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Yeah, he's eager for it and he knows
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he does not have moral compunction,
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which is kind of glaring in the presence of Barnes.
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It's like, oh, yeah.
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Yeah, it does like put into stark relief
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that my estimation of Barnes goes no higher,
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but my estimation of Alex is more like,
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he is actually a legitimate psychopath.
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Yeah.
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Like that's some shit that you only see
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when serial killers are like,
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yeah, I'd show up at their funeral.
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Like that's how fucked up that is.
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That's fucked.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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And I think that it's important to recognize this dynamic
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that is the like, oh yeah, this is all totally fine.
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Oh no, it's not.
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Yep.
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Let's turn it into a piece of this other narrative.
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You know, like this dynamic is not sincere.
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Yeah.
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It is not somebody who is dealing with facts
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as they arrive to them.
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Yeah.
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It is somebody who is trying to spin the actions
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of a power for its, like he is a tendril of the state.
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That's basically the only way to, and he has to know,
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he has to understand that that is his existence.
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There's no way to see that and not, right?
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Like I just watched a person get murdered
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and now I'm going to say,
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well, it's because the left throws rocks sometimes.
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Yeah.
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And there's no way to go from this like,
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ah, totally justified, everything's cool.
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Ice is a ramming, all this stuff to like,
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it could go either way unless you are really desperate
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to not go past, it could go either way.
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I mean, the most it could go either way is
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that is you admitting, oh shit, that's a murder.
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Yeah.
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That is as close to them going, fuck, that's a murder
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as we're ever going to get.
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Yep.
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So we'll get back with another episode
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and get more into Alex's reaction
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and more of this as it evolves.
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But I think that that moment for them
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is something that is resonant and fuck them.
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If I was ever in that moment,
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it would be the single worst thing to know
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that it was recorded and other people could see it.
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Like if I could show, if it was unavoidable
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for people to see me revealing how fucking fucked I am,
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like truly, like if I saw that video
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and then Bobby Barnes came into like a store,
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I'd be like, hey, get the fuck out of here.
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Get the fuck out, go, go.
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Yeah, well, I mean.
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If there's any way to exile somebody
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or to shun them with as much visceral hatred
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as I can possibly give, those two people,
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after having seen that clip, get it.
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My only reaction was that like Alex is worse,
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but then I realized, don't even say that,
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who gives a shit, Barnes sucks.
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Yeah, no, I fucking, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:19.840)
That's not worth arguing.
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If our Mendoza line is Barnes, believe me, Alex is under it.
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Yeah, the fuck this, fuck these guys.
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And unfortunately the conversation will continue.
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But until then we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:32.319)
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
