Transcript/1095: November 13, 2025

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["Ode to Joy"]

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Radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio.

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Nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Eheh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh.

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Knowledgefight.com. It's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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Knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying,

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We are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.

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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.

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Riddle her. Riddle her. Riddle her.

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Need. I need money.

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Riddle her. Riddle her. Riddle her.

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Andy and Kansas. Andy and...

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Stop it. Andy and... Andy and Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledgefight.com

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are. Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today buddy?

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My bright spot today involves a little bit of a spoiler.

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All right.

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So if anyone is watching The Amazing Race.

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All right.

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Please click forward a little bit if you don't want something spoiled.

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Okay.

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But it's actually not that much of a spoiler.

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All right.

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It's just kind of...

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I have never seen until this most recent episode of The Amazing Race something that I would have smoked.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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You mean something that you would have done very, very well.

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I would have beat everybody by a country mile.

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Not like, wow, that's the biggest spliff in Chechnya.

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No.

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I'm in.

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No. Although maybe we could see that on the next season.

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No, listen, I'd be all for it.

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So here's the spoiler without saying who won or any of this stuff.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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The last challenge that they had to do after all the roadblocks and everything,

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right before they checked into the finish, was they had to memorize the Greek alphabet.

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And then identify Greek letters.

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Everyone had so much trouble with it.

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Oh God.

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And I would have just been like, doo, doo, doo.

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Seeing these people that see a delta and they're like, I think it's a beta.

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Go fuck yourself.

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That's always really, truly great whenever you watch one of those shows.

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And then suddenly somebody's just, this is my wheelhouse, guys.

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We are going to be ahead by four hours because accidentally I am a very specific person.

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I was waiting for like, there's enough people left on the show that I thought

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maybe someone would have some familiarity with Greek.

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Yeah.

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But no, no.

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Oh, it's the physical Asia show I was talking to you about, right?

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One of their challenges, you got these strands of fabric and you got to hang on above the ground.

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Right.

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One of the guys on one of the teams, Cirque du Soleil guy.

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So it was like, oh, everybody just quit.

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This guy's going to win it.

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We're already done here.

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No point in being here.

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Yeah.

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Like I would fail at almost everything, but like, they're just, this would be that moment

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where it's like, thank God they came along.

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Oh man.

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This is what I bring to the dirty dozen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I get it.

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You know, everybody wants to be the guy who does all the stuff and gets a lot of the glory,

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but sometimes there's a guy who does one thing and he needs that one thing.

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And he's the only guy who can do it.

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I know that a Sigma is not an O with a squiggle on it.

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I know that.

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All right.

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Come on.

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I would have, I would be hard pressed to tell you what Sigma is.

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Fucking people.

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Anyway, what's your right spot?

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My bright spot is, wait, what was my bright spot?

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I don't know.

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Could have fooled me.

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Something about your wife?

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Got your ass.

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Nice.

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Eat it, Jordan.

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Oh no.

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My bright spot is every night we fall asleep watching Chopped.

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Sure.

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And my bright spot is Chopped is a perfect TV show to fall asleep to.

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It's the perfect structure form to be asleep and then awake sometime in the middle and

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be immediately caught up on what's going on and then fall asleep.

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And then the next episode and be like, no problem.

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It's always very interesting when they open up the ingredient, you know, and then it always goes.

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Okay.

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It never goes too great or too bad.

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It's really hard, but you know, everybody knows how to kind of melt stuff together.

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Yeah.

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I've watched a lot of that show and I don't think I've ever seen somebody like this fucking sucks.

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You failed.

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We were watching an episode where it was like, oh no, this fry tag is having a bad day.

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She just tore into everybody and you could feel the other judges like reacting to her energy.

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Just be like, I guess I'll try and be meaner about this.

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But she was, it was personal.

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She had just gotten a divorce or something like that was a completely separate thing.

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It was a rock in her shoes.

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Yeah.

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So I was just like, I was just reflecting on what a workhorse of a show that is.

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It never needs to stop.

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There's never an end to it.

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There's always going to be more random shit that you can put in a basket and make people try and cook.

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Yeah.

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And it's like, it's exciting, but not that exciting.

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So falling asleep too.

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It's pretty good.

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So easy.

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Yeah.

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It's great.

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It's kind of a, uh, like melatonin show.

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It is.

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I don't know if you can set out to make a show that's perfect for falling asleep too.

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But, uh, if they did, they nailed it.

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I think you can't set out for it, but you just have to accidentally discover it along the way.

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Yep.

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Well, I'm glad you found it.

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Too good.

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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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All right.

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We're going to be talking about November 13th, 2025.

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All right.

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As the Epstein emails continue to peak their little heads.

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Around.

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And Alex is forced to be constantly just saying everything's fine.

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Yeah.

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Hey, we're good.

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Well, everything's fine.

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No big deal.

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Nothing burgers.

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Okay, fine.

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So we'll chat about how he deals with this day's events.

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But first let's take a little moment to say hello to the new wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, this is my actual name, not a shout out Jones.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Jeff Brown.

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Damn you.

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And thank you for bringing Knowledge Fight into my life.

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May God start waking you up to tell you the time.

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Love, TC.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And hey, Maggie, still promised to love you even during football season.

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Skoll Vikings.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to greetings from Nut Hatch.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much.

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So on our last episode, we discussed some emails coming out about Trump being the dog

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that didn't bark.

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Sure.

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And, uh, Wolf, uh, uh, Michael Wolf and Jeffrey Epstein going back and forth, talking about

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how they can exploit Trump and shit.

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Basically, we're just doing everything short of Trump and Epstein emailing back and forth,

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being like, Hey, wasn't it great when we had sex with that underage child together?

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Right.

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But that was kind of the subtext of the birthday message.

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Exactly.

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The friendship is a wonderful riddle.

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Basically there.

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We're just waiting for an email that explicitly lays out.

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We fucking Eiffel towered somebody and now we've moved on with our lives and we can go

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with it.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, you know, I don't think I'm allowed on regular news programs.

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No, no.

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CNN does want us back now for sure.

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But I was trying to think of like an American equivalent of Eiffel tower.

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Cause you know, that seems so European.

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Sure.

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That was what my brain was doing.

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Do you read the St Louis arch?

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Yes.

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There we go.

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The gateway to the West.

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You ever been up there?

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I have.

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I have actually.

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Yes.

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Underwhelming.

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It's very.

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So, uh, there's more Epstein emails that are coming out.

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Sure.

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And uh, Hey, here's the, here's the headline.

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Trump's cool.

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All right.

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Here's the deal.

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Um, everybody knows I just call like it is balls and strikes.

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And I predicted it wasn't hard to predict.

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Yeah.

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What was in the so-called Epstein files that Congress in the last few months subpoenaed

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from the DOJ.

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And most of it's already been out and been public.

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And it's everything we already do.

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And it all exonerates president Trump, but that's not the way the media is taking the

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headlines and spinning it.

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So my job is not to defend Trump when he's doing something that's not defendable.

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My job is just analyze the facts and pretend that there's a completely different set of

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facts for you to respond to really convenient set of facts that already fit with what you

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were hoping they would be.

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Yeah.

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And I think that if you, if you judge things solely based on headlines, I would say that

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a lot of the media stuff isn't great either.

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But I think that criticism it's universal for mainstream commercial news enterprises.

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Like they're always going to write headlines that make you want to click on them and shit.

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So like, yeah, maybe you could read a headline that overstates some of the, the, the email

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stuff, but the counterpoint is Alex, his whole existence is.

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I mean, yeah, it's, it's, I, I don't want to say it's a matter of degrees.

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Much as it is like at the very least, one of them is trying, you know, one of them is

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trying, there's a lot of compromises they have to make and you know what, we're biting

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the bullet on this, but we're trying.

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And the other one is like, what if I peed on his face?

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Yeah.

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One, one is like a putting on a, uh, uh, like fireworks around something that's real and

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the other is just lying.

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And Alex is the one that's just lying.

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Just lying.

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So it turns out that there are some new revelations.

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All right.

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Okay.

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And they have to do with Steve Bannon.

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Okay.

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Doing some, uh, some hanging out.

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Is he releasing the seventh seal?

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Maybe.

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So now the new thing, they're like, oh, we're going to release it all.

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Oh, actually drip, drip, drip, drip.

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The best they've got is the stuff they've released.

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And now, Ooh, Steve Bannon's in there.

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And I know, you know, the Epstein thing up one side and down the other backwards and

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forwards.

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So I already knew what it would be when I read it.

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He had at least one meeting with him in New York.

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Yeah.

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For a TV interview.

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That's what he does.

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Oh, uh, Steve Bannon.

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He, uh,

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was in emails with him and he's like, Hey, can you put pressure, get any of your buddies

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to help get rid of Powell?

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We really need to cut interest rates.

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I've never had a communication with Steve Bannon and I've had him for many, many, many,

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many years.

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It isn't just, we need to take action on this.

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We take action on that.

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Here's how you know to help do this.

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I mean, that's, you want to go to this island with me?

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You get behind the scenes 18 hours a day, just like me running around, finding the globalist.

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That's it.

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So Alex's version of the story is that Steve Bannon had just emailed with Epstein to discuss

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if anyone had a connection to Jerome Powell so that they could get the federal reserve

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to change interest rates.

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Makes sense.

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Totally innocent.

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Nothing to see here.

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Above board, we're just trying to manipulate the prices of things.

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So to make a lot of money.

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Yeah.

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It's just a sex trafficker emailing the former head of Breitbart and one of Trump's top

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advisors working on some behind the scenes deals on economic policy.

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Now, come on.

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I mean, it's, it's almost like you don't want a deep state.

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This is Americana.

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So in reality, Steve Bannon and Jeff Epstein were good friends and had a strong working

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relationship.

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The emails reflected in 2018, Epstein was coordinating international travel for Bannon

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and Bannon called him quote, a great assistant on more than one occasion.

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Great.

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When Bannon was still involved with the White House, Epstein was advising him on how to

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handle foreign policy, telling him quote, if you're going to play here, you have to

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spend time.

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Europe by remote doesn't work.

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This was in the context of telling Bannon that he would need to be physically in Europe

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to hold influence there and that Epstein could set up meetings with world leaders for

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him.

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So Alex can cut the bullshit with, uh, they had one meeting one time, but a TV thing,

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fucking garbage.

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You know, it is, it's, it's like this version, the, the, the conspiracy theorist version

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of it is that horrible, like they make you have sex with a child and they film it so

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they can blackmail you later and all that stuff.

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But the real life version of it is, is this like everybody just knew him.

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So yeah, he's a monster, but everybody knows him.

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So everybody must be a little bit okay with it.

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I guess everybody, like you're not, you're not complicit in like doing a murder ritual

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with a child, but you are complicit in, Hey, I was fine palling around with this guy because

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I made a lot of money and all that shit.

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I sacrificed whatever piece of my morals should have been there for that.

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Which means that now we're on the other side of it and it turns out like fucking everybody

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knew him, but we just don't talk about it all the time because Hey, fucker, you know,

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everybody knew him.

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What are you going to clean house?

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Maybe we'd be nice and see that's what Epstein and Bannon were trying to do.

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Clean some house, get rid of that Jerome Powell.

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And, but yo, the headlines, Ooh, met with him.

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Ooh, emails and you read them, got them right here.

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And it's, Hey, you got to put pressure on everybody.

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You know, we really got to get rid of Powell.

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That was eight years ago.

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Well, imagine the white house chief of staff trying to mobilize powerful people to get

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rid of the federal reserve head.

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And it's like, Oh, shocking revelations.

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Oh my goodness.

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And you read it as nothing burger on top of nothing burger on top of nothing burger.

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So keep in mind that at the time when Bannon would have been doing this, it's well after

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the point where everyone knew that he was a sex trafficker and a pedophile.

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The best defense Alex can come up with for these emails is that Bannon acting as Trump's

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chief of staff felt that part of overthrowing the head of the federal reserve required rallying

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a known sex trafficking pedophile into your ranks because he was powerful.

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Even if Alex wasn't lying about what the emails say, and even if you were covering the story

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down the middle, this explanation is horrible.

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The Alex Jones of 2011 would have serious problems with the president's chief of staff

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secretly coordinating with a sex trafficking pedophile in order to sway economic policy

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for the country.

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And to see this be a nothing burger for Alex now is just pathetic.

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Like I want better for him.

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This is so bad.

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Again, it's just so easy.

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This is the easiest thing in the world, right?

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I understand it's the instinct of everybody in the internet sphere to talk about the details

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and the specifics and argue about all of this stuff.

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But the reality is if you're in the business of being Alex or the like, you can just be

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like, hey, all of these people were talking to him.

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All of these people get consequences.

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That's it.

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Right.

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Right?

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And at this timeframe that he's talking about where Steve Bannon would have been coordinating

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with Epstein in order to try and get Jerome Powell out.

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It's the same time that all of the people in the media sphere of like Breitbart and

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Info Wars are sensationalizing the shit out of like Podesta emails and all this Pizzagate

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shit.

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And so like, it's a little bit ludicrous to pretend that anyone really cared about any

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of that stuff.

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Now is the time for torches and pitchforks.

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You're the torches and pitchforks guy.

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Buy some torches and pitchforks.

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No, because then you have to use them on each other.

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That's what I'm saying.

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It'll be fun.

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You have to torch and pitchfork your friend.

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You guys gotta have it out and then we'll deal with what's left.

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I see.

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I think the problem is that you are suffering from something that Alex thinks is very common

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right now, and that is that people are just, they're too stupid.

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That will happen.

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I have thought that about myself an awful lot lately.

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You may just not get it.

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But it's the messaging.

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I'm serious when I say this, because things have kind of become idiocracy.

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We gotta be really smart about policy, implement it, be very brainy at that.

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But I mean, if Trump just did like Kid Rock did and say he had an eye sculpture of Jerome

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Powell or an eye sculpture, you know, of some globalist and started beating it with a sledgehammer.

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He got a 10% boost.

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And you're like, wait, Alex, you don't want violence.

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You don't want rhetoric.

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You don't turn it up.

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Well, here's the problem.

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The public's so dumbed down.

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That's why the left's running around saying kill everybody.

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That's why the left's running around saying murder everyone, civil war, because that's

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the plan.

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And B, that's what their constituents want.

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And I'm not saying Trump has to go that far.

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He's just got to get hard core because his actions are revolutionary.

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But the delivery is very corporate.

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And people are seeing this and.

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Note to Trump, don't have Larry Ellison or Bill Gates at the White House.

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Note to Trump.

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Stop saying the whole Epstein thing's a hoax.

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Remember what it got explained to you, how you were the one exposed it and all that.

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It's on record.

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Remember, I know you don't care.

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It's a distraction for you.

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Remember the lies we told you to tell?

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But remember, Roger came and met with you and was like, oh, my God, you went out and

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people want.

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Oh, oh, yeah, because it was true.

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Remember, Roger coached you on this.

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This is why the left is going.

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Come on, buddy.

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Oh, my God.

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Don't you remember?

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How is it possible that you could both hero worship a guy and then speak to him like that?

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Remember, you're talking points.

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Oh, God damn it.

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This is crazy.

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Yeah, people are really stupid.

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If only Trump would be like Kid Rock and smash an ice sculpture of somebody.

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People would love it.

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I think there was a time when I like whenever I felt like they were lying.

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Right.

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But they knew what the reality was.

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And from there they were creating a lie to go from there.

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Right.

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Right.

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I think I know the distinction you're making.

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Right.

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Now it feels like nobody even bothers with what reality is anymore.

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And they just enjoy crafting new and more fun lies on top of those lies.

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Yeah, I think that in the past it felt like there was a lie,

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but there was kind of an obligation to pretend we all still lived within reality.

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Right, right, right.

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Like I know you know that I'm lying, but not everybody knows that I'm lying.

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And that's where I get my grift.

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You know, that's where we're at.

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But now it feels like I don't even know if I'm lying anymore.

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I might be telling the truth.

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I might be lying about lying right now.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, it's very untethered.

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Yeah.

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When you said there was a time that I got a really horrible thought in my head.

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And that was, there was a time that I probably could recite the lyrics to like five kid rock songs.

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Ooh, five!

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And I think that time might be now.

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I think I still could.

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You think that time is still now?

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I think I listened to Devil Without a Cause, that album, enough times.

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That means it's just there forever.

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You know, it is like I, whenever I did hearing aids, I spent some time

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more than I would ever like to in nursing homes and hospices.

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And there is that like person who's like,

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man, I still smell that from when I was nine years old.

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And I was like, there's so many things I don't want to be the last memory I have on my pad.

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I think I'm the bulldog.

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Ba-wa-da-ba.

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Right, of course.

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Only God knows why.

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How many lyrics are there in Ba-wa-da-ba though?

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Because I feel like 40% of it is the title of the song.

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No, no, 40% of it is that intro where it's just like,

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wahhhhhhhhhhhh.

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That's one, that's one lyric.

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Ba-wa-da-ba-da-ba-da-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah.

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There's other lyrics.

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There's a few.

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Okay, okay, all right.

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Don't make me Wild Wild West this.

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I'm not trying to do this.

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This is for the questions that don't have any answers.

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I prefer Will Smith's.

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The Midnight Glancers and the Topless Dancers.

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Let's stay in Safe Harbors where there is a giant mechanical spider.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is reflecting a little bit about how like everyone would just,

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everyone would love him if he turned on Trump.

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That's true.

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No, it's not.

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No.

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Trump doesn't succeed.

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And what everybody understands is it's so fashionable to attack him.

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So fashionable, you know, to spend all your time going after him.

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The Democrats will promote you because they want to schism.

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And a lot of Republicans are pissed off.

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So they're all for it.

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I mean, if I came out here and said, screw Donald Trump, f him, I'm done.

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While the Democrats would drop their lawsuits against me and I'd have to.

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Is that how it works?

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And I could be number one everywhere again, and they wouldn't be blocking me or attacking me.

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But America would end up degenerating and collapsing.

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So I don't even think about selling out and doing that.

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But at the same time, I have to cover each little piece of this and be accurate about it.

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Trump is the lifeboat we're in.

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Literally.

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And he's not perfect.

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But if the lifeboat sinks, we go down with it.

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If Alex turned on Trump, none of his legal problems would go away.

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He'd still be in the exact same mess that he's in.

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And there's a pretty good chance that no one on the other side of the media would even care past making fun of him.

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Alex has missed the boat in terms of his timing to make a meaningful pivot.

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It legit doesn't matter what he does or who he supports now,

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because the beast he was serving has grown far more powerful than anything he has to offer.

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Alex and his audience are just kind of backwash now.

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There was a time when everyone in the extreme right-wing media were caught up in Trump worship,

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and it would have been a pretty big step to break with Trump.

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In and around 2020, that election time, that probably would have been the best time to stake this kind of a position,

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because it was super clear that Trump was trying to overthrow the election.

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And after January 6th, it would have been profoundly easy to present a position that basically boiled down to,

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this guy is obviously a tyrant, and while I support a lot of his policies,

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everyone on the right has been whipped into a cult of personality that's going to destroy us.

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If he would have done that then, he could have preserved something for his career,

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and probably got a larger audience, but he's a coward.

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I mean, obviously the irony of that is we told him to do exactly that around 2020.

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Yes. If Alex had made that pivot, it might have mattered, but now everything is inconsequential.

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By degrees and over time, Alex has made decision after decision that's eroded his ability to ever stand up for himself in a way that matters,

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to the point where he now feels like he has to cover for Bannon and Epstein being friends.

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Yeah.

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Like, you've got nothing.

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It feels like a VH1 behind the music documentary.

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Like, we're at the point where it's like, wow, you really did Downfall, huh?

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You really went through it.

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Yeah, but he's like, Alex isn't going to make the best art of his career.

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Like, he's not going to find the music again.

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There is no third act redemption story here.

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There is just fucking Whitesnake went on and then they died.

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Unless you're painting show.

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Oh, now we're talking, hmm, that actually does sound good.

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I think that there's like a weird buyer's remorse kind of feeling of like,

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everything in my life would be better if I didn't do this.

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And it's like, no, you're delusional.

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You're just, you mistimed the jump.

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I mean, it's amazing to listen to somebody be like, well,

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if I did the thing that I should do, it would end society.

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But at the same time, knowing that this person has only ever gotten more

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and more and more of what they want,

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which is exactly proportional to how much worse and worse and worse

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everything has gotten.

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Like, it could not be more stark, the two lines of more you get,

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worse it gets for us.

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Yeah.

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And it's fascinating, too, how I think like Alex should really take stock of

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like how his career has come to a point where he can't say no to Trump.

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Yeah.

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Except in petulant outbursts.

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Like he's falling in line with everything that matters.

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And the only kind of pushback at all is like,

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and it's just doubled back once the feeling subsides.

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And the closest he can get to some sort of sober-eyed criticism

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is saying he calls balls and strike 100% of the time strikes for Trump.

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Yeah.

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Like crazy.

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So the media, I think this is really the point.

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They should be nicer to Trump.

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That does sound true.

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And then I think Alex is encouraging people to self-harm.

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Well.

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And so everybody just needs to remember, yeah, criticize Trump,

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but are you spending 80% of your time on it?

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Yeah, you are.

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That's not going to help us.

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Are you spending most your time on trying to promote the good things he's doing?

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That's not how we got to space.

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Fight the globalists on the left and expose the bad they're doing?

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Because we really should be spending our time on that.

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Most of it.

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I just took Trump somewhat to the woodshed because I know he gets the gets information back.

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So I'm more riding a horse.

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And that's what I see Trump as literally.

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He's the horse getting us there.

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I don't mean that as an insult, but.

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And I'm just jamming spurs into, you know, his back legs.

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And and I got a riding crop and I'm whooping his ass lovingly.

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And by the way, I got a riding crop beat my own ass.

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I mean, you know, get up, get on your feet, fight.

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Because we're right at the heart of the battle right now.

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So all of us need to be digging our spurs into ourselves.

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All of us need to be getting a riding drop out.

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Man, you know, that'll wake your ass up.

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Take a riding crop and slap yourself hard on the thigh.

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Know what a horse feels.

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I mean, you know, open the skin.

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What are we doing here?

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I'm not a masochist, but at this point I am.

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I mean, it's like Roy Batty's dying at the end of Blade Runner.

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I need to feel something.

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Juiced up through adrenaline.

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So he's driving nails into his hands just so he can finish the fight.

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I mean, I'm there, man.

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I'm like pulling nails out here and like, get that son of a bitch going here.

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All right, this is do or die time, folks.

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Get your game faces on.

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Get serious.

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Remember last episode he was talking about jumping out a window?

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This guy's in a good place.

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Good place.

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I mean, listen, I was even willing to go along with it.

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You know, all the way up to like, you know, I've given myself a nice slap on the face.

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You know, you give yourself a splash of cold water into the face.

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You get the senses sharp and that kind of thing.

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So I can get on board with a little riding crop slap, and then he's like, break the skin.

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I'm like, what are we doing here?

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What's happening now?

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Feel the blood.

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There is no need for that part.

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What?

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Why do you want blood?

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What's happening?

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It's a color of passion.

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No, no.

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Just splash some cold water.

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You don't even bleed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a couple corrections.

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He had not taken Trump to the woodshed.

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That's crazy.

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Yeah.

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And then the second thing, it's not so much a correction, but it's like, okay, if he's

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the one who's digging the spurs into Trump, who's digging the spurs into Alex?

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Right.

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That's Roger, right?

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I would have to be.

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I mean, who's giving him the whippin'?

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It's not God.

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Once you start with God doesn't do that.

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This person's a puppet.

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We've seen how that goes.

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Right.

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Right.

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But like, God is about free will.

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Sure.

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So God's never going to whip you with a riding crop to be like, get it, get it, get it done.

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Get it done.

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Well, I mean, to be a devil or like a Roger, I guess if I guess the closest we've seen

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God come to riding crop behavior is whenever he gave Alex several hundred dreams and Gene

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Hackman still died.

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So you clearly can't riding crop Alex, but none of that was riding.

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That didn't break the skin.

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No, that's true.

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That didn't break the skin.

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That was mainly just a nagging.

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That was mainly just nagging.

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Yeah.

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Listen, if you don't clean your room, it's not nagging for someone

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to be like, you got to clean your room.

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You got to do it.

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It's not nagging.

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It's reminding.

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You took on this mission of keeping your room clean.

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I'm not killing Gene Hackman right now.

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Yeah.

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That's the problem.

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That is the baby.

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The problem.

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I mean, I guess it's too late now.

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Yeah.

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So it's interesting that you bring this up of God telling Alex things because the night

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before this, he was visited by the Lord.

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Last night.

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It happened again.

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Got my cell phone turned off.

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I stuck it in the drawer.

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Don't do that.

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That's the best.

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And don't do it.

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And I wake up and do it.

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God's tapped me on the shoulder.

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Oh, God.

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Hey, Alex.

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And I said, turn my cell phone on, right?

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You're going to show me your real again, right?

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Alex, this isn't fun anymore.

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Get it and turn it on.

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And I say out loud.

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247.

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Fucking hell.

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Bone boots, which means God told me that he probably 246.

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Boots 247.

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That's probably happened.

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Thousands of times in my life, maybe a thousand.

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I don't know.

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Over and over again.

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That's God's way, I guess.

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Is it?

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But that's you see me do it.

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Is that God's way?

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That's it.

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That's the whole thing.

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Exact minutes, times.

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It's amazing.

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And that's just God's way.

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I guess you're talking to me.

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You know, today is the one year anniversary of the fake auction

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they had last year.

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Go have a drink.

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Oh, my God.

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So what's the point?

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Like, what did God want to convey to Alex through time

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predictions?

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Isn't the point supposed to be that the time trick is to get

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Alex's attention, then God tells him to stop drinking or

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whatever.

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Right.

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The time trick isn't the important part.

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It's the message God is conveying afterwards.

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And Alex seems to be a bit vague on what those messages are.

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We certainly hear about this clock shit over and over and

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over again, though, which you're right.

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It's not fun anymore.

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It's pretty fucking stupid.

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Even if I'm God, I'm getting annoyed.

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I was just thinking earlier today, I was like, man, hell

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seems like a waste of energy.

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You've got so much energy and effort forever to punish some

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dead guys who can't even bother you anymore.

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They've got to get bored, but clearly they don't get bored,

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right?

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So there's no way for a demon to get bored with fucking with

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Alex like this.

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Like, he's bringing his friends every morning.

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Like, check this out.

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I swear to God, he does it every fucking time.

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He's going to do it.

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If we presume that it's a demon doing this, as opposed to

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Alex looking at clocks and choosing to forget all the times

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he's wrong about what time he thinks it is.

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That does seem reasonable.

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Yeah, I think that's more what's going on.

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It seems reasonable for you to say that, but I'm going to

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go with demon.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So look, I'm no theologian, but I believe that based around

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my understanding of God from the Bible, he wouldn't just

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be desperately chasing Alex around trying to impress him

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with clock tricks.

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God gave Alex hundreds of dreams about Gene Hackman in the

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year before his death, and Alex ignored them.

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If you have the balls to call yourself a prophet and try

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to make money off this status you think God's afforded you

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by speaking him speaking to you, you don't get to pick and

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choose what visions you accept.

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If you just decide that you get to ignore some prophecy and

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go with the stuff you like, then you're using God.

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And if he exists, you're probably going to hell.

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Submission to God requires that you accept things that are

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personally disadvantageous, like recognizing that it would

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look crazy to randomly go to Gene Hackman's house because

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you think God told you to.

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That looks crazy to normal people because we know that God

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doesn't just give us missions.

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But if Alex is the person that he pretends to be and profits

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off making people believe he is, then he should have gone

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to Hackman's house after, like, dream number four.

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This is not that complicated.

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He thinks he has visions.

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It's not weird for him.

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It would be weird for you.

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Yeah, it would be weird for me.

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It would be weird for me.

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It would be very weird for him.

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He's had a thousand instances where God told him what time

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it was in the middle of the night.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm just thinking, you know, I'm thinking about Jupiter,

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right?

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So Jupiter real big, made out of gas and stuff.

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There's a storm on the planet that's bigger than Earth or

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maybe something like that.

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That might be true.

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Might not be true, but there's a really big storm, right?

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There's all of this shit, and it's so far away, and it's

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so big, and this God had to have created that, too, right?

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So he's got this giant gas giant, and he's got a storm that

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goes on for eternity, and you can see from space.

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But also it's 2 47, buddy.

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2 47.

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It's 2 47, and you're late to terraform that big gas storm.

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What are we doing here?

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And get out to space and turn it green.

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God needs to get his shit together.

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Priorities, man.

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Make a better planet somewhere.

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Unless unless there is something really, really, really,

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really important that Alex is supposed to be doing that he's

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not doing.

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Like, if God is really shaking him around in the middle of

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the night, it's not because he wants him to continue to do

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a dumb radio show.

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Yeah, right.

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There's something bigger.

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I mean, he's got to, like, overthrow the power of the world.

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He's got to, like, perform miracles in front of Congress or

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something.

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Okay.

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You've got Noah, right?

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And he's all like, I'm not going to build this shit.

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And then you throw him away.

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You punish him.

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You do all this stuff.

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Right.

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This is a lot like Alex, but the goal at the end of Noah was

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everybody needs to continue living eventually.

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And Alex's goal is not even close to that.

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At best, it's save Gene Hackman's life, and that's already

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over.

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Yeah, you missed that one.

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So can you imagine a God or conversely, we don't know if

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you're supposed to go and kill Gene Hackman.

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That's also possible.

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Yeah.

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Can you imagine a God who's created free will and all this

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stuff, several hundreds of thousands of years of humanity

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and all this stuff, and then is like, man, for the first

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time ever, really regretting that shit.

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I could just take this guy over in a heartbeat.

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I possess people before.

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I'm really questioning my own infallibility.

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I mean, this guy is a real fuck up.

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I could start over.

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Like, it's not too late.

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You know what I think is also kind of funny?

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Yeah.

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Alex has, like, in the middle of the night, God tells him

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what time it is.

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And you think about these other figures from the Bible,

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like a Noah.

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Sure.

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And I just imagine Alex being like, you know what?

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I got to build an arc.

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And then all of his shithead friends being like, Elon's

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already doing a better version.

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Do you think you can make a better rocket than this?

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What are you doing?

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You're making a boat?

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I bet I will say this for the next catastrophe.

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I have a strong sense that a boat's going to be more useful

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than a rocket.

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Boat will...

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Yeah, you should have a boat.

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I would bet on boat over rocket next catastrophe around.

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So Alex, one of the things that he spent some time on

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on this episode is Woody Harrelson.

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Sure.

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He's talked some shit.

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What's going on with Woody?

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Woody's all right, right?

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He's not all right.

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He's not all right?

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Is Woody doing okay?

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First of all, his dad killed JFK.

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Well, that is true.

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Second...

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That is true.

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I forgot about that.

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I forgot about that part.

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He's been talking some shit in interviews about maybe

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how he would poison Trump.

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And Alex is not thrilled with this.

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Sure.

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You used to dream about being a Secret Service agent,

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but then that passed when I realized the character

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that I liked on television was actually an actor playing

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the Secret Service agent.

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But luckily I didn't become a Secret Service agent.

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I'd be having to protect Donald Trump right now.

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That just wouldn't sit well.

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You would have a very big job right now.

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Yeah, I'd be wanting to slip him some cyanide instead

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of jumping in front of a bullet.

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I shouldn't say these things.

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You should not be saying these things.

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Okay, I guess.

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No, not when your dad's a famous CIA top assassin.

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Probably don't want to be saying that stuff, Woody.

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Not good.

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Because they might recruit him again?

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Not good at all.

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Charles Harrelson.

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And I've interviewed more people than anybody.

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I've interviewed three of the people that were there

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with Charles Harrelson.

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And I'm told that big

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Subruder film clip, that's that Harrelson's one got that shot.

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None of them were exactly sure because they shot him

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full of holes.

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One just three bullets at him, whole bunch.

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Pangulation, that's the key.

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So I think when old, uh, Woody.

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Makes comments like that, that's not good, Woody.

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Why?

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Because he's Woody Harrelson.

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The top racehorse of killing people.

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Well, we know, you know, that stuff passes on.

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You kind of got to-

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I'm sorry?

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... makes you really believable as a tough guy in the movies.

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That you need to dial that back, sonny boy.

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You need to dial it back.

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And I like Woody.

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What is happening?

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But, crown it win points with the Democrats and the liberals

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talking about killing Trump.

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Not a good thing, Woody.

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Not good, Woody.

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What are we doing?

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Murder is genetic.

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What is this?

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I don't know.

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So there's no evidence that Woody Harrelson's dad was

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involved with the CIA or the JFK assassination.

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Sure.

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He was a mob assassin though, for sure.

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Yeah.

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And he died in jail serving a sentence for killing a judge.

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So Alex does have a lot of clay to work with here.

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Sure.

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No, no, no, no.

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That, I mean, I have a hard time with, hey, if your dad's

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a mob assassin, you're probably great at killing people.

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That's intense.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You have a button someone can press somewhere that'll

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turn you into Jason Bourne.

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As opposed to just being like, oh, pretty great actor.

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Yeah, he's a good actor.

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So Woody Harrelson's a figure in Hollywood who has politics

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that are close to what Alex wants to pretend his are.

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So I think Alex tends to treat him a little softer

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than he would anybody else.

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It's just weird for him to be sitting on the show and having

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this response to a celebrity saying that he wanted to kill

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Trump when he's routinely lost his shit screaming about folks

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like Robert De Niro saying that he just wants to punch him.

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Yep.

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What I'm saying is that this is all a game and Alex likes

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Woody Harrelson.

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Yep.

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And so he's, I like you, Woody.

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Yeah.

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Dial it in.

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I mean, I feel like, what, how many years ago now did

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Kathy Griffin hold a headless Trump?

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That was around the election, right?

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2016, 17.

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Yeah.

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We're, I mean, hey, come on, buddy.

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They called like a jihad on her.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Like what are we, what are we doing here?

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Everybody went fucking ape shit.

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Yeah.

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I remember like Alex was like trying to sell Kathy Griffin

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his ISIS shirts and stuff like that.

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Yep.

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Crazy.

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Man.

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I love, I love that that stuff in retrospect still does,

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like people are still like, well, let's, you know,

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she's gone a little too far and here we are, you know,

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what are you going to do?

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So a lot of this show, obviously, immigrant bashing.

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And racism and what have you.

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But we don't need to dwell in all of the instances of,

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of that because we have a guest who comes in.

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This guy named Elijah Shaffer.

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Okay.

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He sucks.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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Used to work for the blaze, but he got fired for

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sexually assaulting a coworker.

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Boy, that's, ugh.

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And so he has his own show called Slightly Offensive.

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I wouldn't name my show that if I was a...

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Well, it's kind of like a comedian naming a special

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canceled.

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It's like, it's to let people know you're cool.

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Yeah, I guess.

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I guess.

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Slightly Offensive is not cool.

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That's the least cool thing you could be.

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I'm a little bit.

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That's the coolest thing you've got.

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I'm a little.

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So he is getting sued by Kash Patel's girlfriend.

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So he's extremely offensive.

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Yeah, he has offended her sensibilities for sure.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So here's the situation.

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Oh.

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Someone else posted something about leaders being like,

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having handlers and like, there's too many people who are

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under control.

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Right, right.

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We're getting back to Israel sooner or later.

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Yes.

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And so he, Elijah Shaffer, posted a picture of Kash

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Patel and his girlfriend under this tweet.

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So he responded to this tweet about people being controlled

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within the administration.

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Kash Patel controlled by his Israeli girlfriend.

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Right.

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Yes.

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Which is, she has already sued Kyle Serafin, another of Alex's

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friends, for more explicit claims that she is an Israeli

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honeypot agent and that he's being handled by her.

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Sure.

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And so she decided to sue him for this tweet.

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And my take on it is generally like, she shouldn't sue him

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for that probably, but he 100% meant it to be something

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that is defamatory and deserves to get you sued.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The only reason I say maybe she shouldn't have sued him is

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because like, is it worth your time?

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Sure.

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Is it something that really you can follow through?

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And there's an argument to be made that she doesn't have

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the same protections that a lot of people would as a private

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citizen because she's a musician on top of already being

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you know, Kash Patel's girlfriend.

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Right.

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So she is more of arguably a public figure.

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I don't know.

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I think it's a mess.

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Everyone's wrong.

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Yeah.

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But it's what happens when you have like dipshits being

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elevated into media roles, no professionalism anywhere, and

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other types of dipshits running the government.

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Yep.

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You end up with this kind of drama circle nonsense.

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Yeah.

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And everyone's just trying to make some money off it.

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Boy, that is the epitaph of America.

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Everybody was just trying to make some money, man.

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So Elijah Shafer comes on, and I think that one of the

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things that he really has to do is play dumb about what he

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did. Right.

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Like, obviously what he was doing was saying, this is a

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person who is controlled by the person in this picture.

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It's fucking obvious.

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If we were both to be honest about this situation, the

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facts of the case have already been decided against me.

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I was defaming her.

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Right.

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Or at the very least, there are no real plausible arguments

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for what else you were trying to say with this post.

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Right.

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So I only need to make a just good enough argument to keep

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me out of trouble.

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Yeah.

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I have no interest in making an actual argument.

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I think it's embarrassing for him just based on, like,

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you know, what's obvious.

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Sure.

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But it's also embarrassing for Alex.

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Start over.

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This is insane.

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Insane.

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Yeah.

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You never said anything bad about us, but because you

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criticize Israel, we're going to destroy you.

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I mean, this is Bonkertown.

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I bet Netanyahu's people wrote this.

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Go ahead.

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Sorry.

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Well, look at this.

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Look at this.

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Defendant Elijah D.

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Shafer has perpetrated a malicious lie about Alexis Wilkins,

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falsely claiming that she is an American born country singer,

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is a foreign agent of the government to manipulate and

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compromise director of the FBI.

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So they say the lawsuit starts at its first sentence, says,

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I said something, and then it goes down and it says,

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he actually didn't say this is legitimately what it says.

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He did not say anything.

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It said he replied with a wordless reply with no caption,

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with no statement, with no words.

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However, we know what he was thinking.

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That's where this is crazy.

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We know what he was thinking when he posted a picture of

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Cash Patel and his boyfriend.

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Look at this is a great photo.

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He looks great.

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She looks great.

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This is you posted this on top of someone else's post.

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This is $5 million.

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They look great.

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I mean, what the hell is going on here?

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Well, this is what I'm trying to tell people.

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Look, and you'll see the folks already.

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You're being sued for $5 million for that.

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Yeah.

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All you did was close on somebody else's post that maybe

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you shouldn't be sued for that, but you shouldn't be playing

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dumb either.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The reason that we end up in a position where nobody knows

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what anything means anymore is because covering your ass

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when you have posted something like this to avoid paying

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someone for defaming them with accusations, you have to play

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this kind of stupid.

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Oh, you don't know what I was thinking.

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Maybe I just wanted to post a picture of Cash Patel and his

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girlfriend looking beautiful together.

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It's embarrassing.

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Say what you mean.

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What you say.

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Right.

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I think it's this kind of shit right here that is the

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inspiration for that.

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No, that somewhere an adult should be coming, that kind of

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thing, because this is the type of shit where you should

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just someone should slap Elijah and be like fucking stop it.

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Stop lying.

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Just say what you want.

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Do you want to speculate and talk about how you think she's

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possibly an Israeli honeypot?

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Then do it.

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Then do it.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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It is like we're all in elementary school, and there

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should be.

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When we were in elementary school, everybody inherently

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trusted the teacher whenever the teacher would hear this

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shit and go, get the fuck out of here.

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Get back into your fucking desk.

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And everybody would go, Yep, totally.

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You shouldn't be able to do that.

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Go to time out.

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Absolutely.

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And now we just don't have anybody who we can trust to do

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that. And what you would suggest to trust, like a judge,

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his job is essentially that is that you go there, and that's

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the one place where you're like, we all know this guy said

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something defamatory.

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How is it possible you disagree with us?

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Well, I think that it is arguable.

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I could see a very responsible judge thinking that this

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doesn't rise to the level.

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Sure, absolutely.

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Of a lawsuit.

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Right.

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Right.

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You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to not understand

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what he means by this.

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You would have to be insane.

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Yeah.

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And the fact that he wants the people he follows or who

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follow him, excuse me, to accept that as an excuse means

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that you don't have a whole lot of respect for the people

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that you're talking to.

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Yeah.

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I mean, brutal.

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I think I just think that it's childish shit.

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This like, you don't know what I'm thinking.

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Yeah.

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Like that kind of like you're supposed to be a conveyor

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of information.

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You're supposed to be somebody who's putting out news and

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analysis and all this stuff, and you're trying to hide

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behind the mysteriousness of whatever your language could

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possibly mean.

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And it's just you can't know what's in another person's

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heart, right?

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Oh, my.

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Yes, I can.

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Whenever you tweet shit.

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Well, then by all means, tell me what's in your heart.

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What's the other explanation for this?

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The burden of proof is on the state.

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Sure.

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So Alex obviously can't have a conversation with somebody

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who's in this position without it being like, it's entirely

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about Alex.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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It was an image that I posted without any words.

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They extracted all of these statements.

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He said this.

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It's not even just that he implied.

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It's like he said that she is an agent.

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He said that she is working from Assad.

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He said that she's manipulating and controlling her boyfriend.

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And they extracted like a dozen or more statements from

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that picture that were never stated.

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I am being sued for something I never said.

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Now you can get sued for what they said.

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You said.

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Correct.

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That this is nuts.

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Like, do you know how crazy this is?

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Alex?

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I've never been to Connecticut.

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And they claim I sent people to pee on graves.

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And then we asked them on the stand.

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No one peed on graves.

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That's amazing.

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So, yeah, it is kind of about you.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I like the game.

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You know what?

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Let me put it this way.

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Right?

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I like the game.

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I like the line game.

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I like the trying to get away with shit game.

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I like the doing something that's against the rules and

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seeing if I can't jump the General Lee over it kind of game.

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That's fun.

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But if you get caught, you accept that you lost the game.

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You move on, you know?

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You know what I'm saying?

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You don't give me this like, well, you don't know, you know,

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like, fuck you.

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You got caught.

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Except the game.

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The game works.

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Move on.

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Yeah, it's not impressive if you're jumping the General Lee

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in a video game with, like, moon physics.

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And then you don't have.

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Yeah, there's gonna be stakes.

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Sometimes you lose.

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Yeah, you fucked up.

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You fucked up.

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Yeah.

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Suck it up, eat it like a man and move on with your fucking

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life.

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So here's the problem that I have.

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I'm not interested.

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Nope.

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I'm not really interested in this guy's lawsuit at all.

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I think it's incredibly dumb to pretend that he meant

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anything other than what he's being alleged to have said.

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But maybe she doesn't really need to be suing him.

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Maybe as a public official, these are the kinds of things

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you just have to be like, fuck it, whatever.

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Let these shitheads talk their shit.

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You know, whatever.

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I'm not sure.

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I don't know.

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I don't care.

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It doesn't really affect me.

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I think this is where we need a Solomon to just be like,

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hey, neither of you can be online for six months.

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Fuck you.

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I don't even give a shit about what either of you are saying.

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Get offline for six months and go outside.

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She's fucking dating cash Patel.

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So that sucks.

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Yeah, I don't think that she can be that great.

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Right.

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This guy's Elijah Shafer and he sucks.

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So he sucks.

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So whatever.

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Yep.

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Now what I am interested in is Elijah Shafer continuing to

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talk because I think he reveals that he really fucking

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hates Indians.

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I have been very critical and I've had some very viral posts

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very recently in the last three months against cash.

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One, I stated you cannot trust Indians because they have

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a deceptive and a dishonest culture.

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And that's not racist.

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That's true.

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And what are very spiteful and petty?

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They very Jewish culture.

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They just don't have the business actor.

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And that's why.

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Oh, my God.

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Israelis, they love Jews because they're like brown or

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like a different colored version of the same kind of culture,

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like a caste system of superiority.

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Now, obviously, not all Jews think like that.

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Obviously, not all Indians think like that.

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I don't mean all Indians are the same, but I have an African

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friend who told me that the hardest part about what is

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happening, you know, assimilating into the US was the

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fact that, you know, in Africa they tell you to lie.

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Now, keep in mind, this is not racist.

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He said it's not.

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So it's not.

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Yeah, the hardest part about assimilating into the United

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States is that other cultures tell you you should lie.

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Oh, my God.

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Says a liar on a lie show.

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It's crazy how the one black person I know tells me that

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all black people lie to me.

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It's their culture.

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It's their culture.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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That is a barrage of racism.

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Yeah.

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Even for this show, I thought that was pretty surprising.

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That is it's unguarded.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You can't just say, and that's not racist.

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No, at the very I mean, man, back in the you know, I'm not

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a racist, but would be awful.

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I didn't even know you could just say that's also not racist

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after you have said something that is deeply, deeply racist.

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All Indians are bad.

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That's not racist.

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No, no, you can't trust Indians because they're sneaky.

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Right.

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This isn't racist.

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That's not race.

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You can't just you can't just declare that, right?

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No, that's not okay.

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No, but I thought it was interesting as a person, because

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as a person on his show, on Alex's show, because I think

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even like Nick Fuentes is a little more careful or when

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he's saying shit to this racist, he tries to be funny.

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Yeah.

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Like, this isn't funny.

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No, this is just all Indians are distrustful.

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I mean, yeah, it's crazy.

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And here's my sociological and scientific reason why it's

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cool for me to have this prejudice.

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You know, it is like sometimes you're just not connected

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into the racism world.

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So you don't even know what kind of racism is out there.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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You're like, I'm not even in the regular races, the popular

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racism of like, you know, just American racism, black people

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are bad or whatever.

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There's like fucking bespoke racisms out there that I haven't

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even considered being racist about.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's something that I was experiencing while

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I was listening to this episode, was that Alex is not

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really that into this.

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It made me realize that he doesn't hate Indians that much.

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Like, there's not enough hours in the day for all this hate

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He is a white identity guy, but there's definitely, like,

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lower priority hate for him.

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And I think, like, Indian folk, Asian people generally are

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on the low rungs of, like, who he's worried about.

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Well, I mean, I suppose that does reinforce that whole

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familiarity breeds contempt kind of thing.

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You know, like, what he is racist about is his area in specific.

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You know, it's geographic in a very distinct way.

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Yeah.

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In his life, he is probably more prone to run into black people

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and Hispanic people.

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Yep.

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And therefore those are the larger.

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Yeah.

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And then I guess so much of the media around the last 20 years

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has been, like, deeply Islamophobic.

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Yep.

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And so, you know, a target on Muslims is kind of susceptible

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to that.

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So, yeah, you know, maybe he doesn't really care about Asian

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and Indian people because he doesn't know that many or see

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that many folks around.

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I feel like, and maybe I'm wrong about this, but I feel like

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it takes a lot of effort to be really racist.

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And there's a lot of people out there.

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It's true.

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And a lot of different cultures and traditions.

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So, like, you just don't have the strength to be racist to

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everybody all the time.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And that's why Elijah is here holding up the...

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Thank God for him.

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You know, like, we don't have time for the Indian bashing.

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I didn't even know to be there.

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Yeah.

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So he's got to represent.

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Thanks, buddy.

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Now I want to remind you that somebody else who got mad,

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Vivek Ramaswamy, the H1B honey queen.

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I'm sorry.

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I've sort of been one of the key figures that embarrassed

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him over his post about increasing H1Bs.

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When I went to go approach him at the RNC, his security

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physically grabbed me and threw me to the floor.

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So they assaulted me without provocation.

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And he seemed to be happy about it and wouldn't take my

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question. I kept asking him and he ignored them.

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And there seems to be this really weird thing that I bring

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up of, like, Indians getting into power into, you know,

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whether it's like IBM or Dell or anywhere.

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And then they fire all of the individuals who are individuals.

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It's just a very, very, very strange situation.

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And so I don't mind going there, but just back to the suit,

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because now we're going to see you into oblivion.

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But no, but this is important because I'm saying he was

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mad about this.

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It went viral and I saw his proxies getting mad.

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And there was this whole thing between him and the back.

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I'm bringing this to the level.

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You're saying it's a proxy suit.

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I totally agree with you.

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Well, yeah, but I'm saying I'm bringing up all the proxy

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issues. So him and the back were mad about my opinions on

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Indians, right?

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So this is like, like, I am bringing this here, Alex.

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Just listen.

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I'm telling you, just this is happening.

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Alex, I'm going to say a lot of mean things about India,

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a nation of so many fucking distinct people.

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I'm going to say something bad about a billion people,

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most of whom cannot communicate with each other because

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there are so many fucking languages.

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I am going to say something broad strokes about one seventh

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of the world.

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Can't trust them.

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Can't trust them.

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I think there's such a fun interplay in that clip of, like,

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Elijah being like, I want to talk about how I'm being

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attacked by the Indians and Alex being like, look, I'm fine

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if you want to do some racist stuff.

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That's great.

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Let's stay on this lawsuit here.

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And him, Elijah's being like, no, no, no, no, no.

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It is very important that I bring it all into focus.

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That India wants me dead.

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I imagine, right, that there has to be somebody out there

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for these people forever.

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We're like, there's got to be some white guy in the middle

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of fucking Nebraska right now who just really hates everybody

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from Kazakhstan.

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Who's just like, I hate the Kazakhs or whatever.

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Yeah, you saw Borat and thought it was real.

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Yeah, just like, and then one day some Kazakh immigrant

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will do something wrong and then, Bam!

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It's my time to shine.

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I'm the racist guy for Infowars today.

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Right?

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Like, that's what this feels like.

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Well, I mean, Elijah Schafer is a guy who's around.

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Like, he exists.

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He's not here because Alex needed to call a racist stuff

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from the bullpen.

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No, I understand.

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He got sued by Kash Patel's girlfriend, and Alex wants to

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talk about his own plight.

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Unfortunately, in doing so, he has welcomed a guy who seems

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to really be mad at Indians into the house.

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What a whiff.

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Let's just kind of talk shit about our continuing lawsuits.

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No, no, no, I'm gonna hate Indian people at you for a while.

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Yeah, and the reason that I'm having this lawsuit come at

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me isn't because of, like, an attack on free speech or any

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of that. It's because I'm too critical of Indians.

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Yep.

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Great.

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Great.

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So, Alex, I think, you know, like, we've seen this a bunch

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whenever, like, Fuentes will come in.

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Alex will want to try and coach him.

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Right.

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To be like, come on.

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Right.

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We're on.

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Don't say the JQ.

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We can say these things without saying them.

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Yeah.

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And so I think he wants to try and get Elijah to calm down

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on how overtly racist this is.

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Incredibly racist.

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He's using her to come at you, which just shows why is he

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spending his time on this?

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And it's a big problem, and I'm really concerned about it.

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Yeah.

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No, but this is what I'm saying is that this is like, yeah,

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I wasn't trying to turn a sidetrack.

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I'm saying this was a very sensitive, separate topic that

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I had embarrassed.

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No, you're not sidetracking.

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I think it's a foregone conclusion.

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That's just all about don't criticize Cash Patel.

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I get it.

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Correct.

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But I think the VEC might be connected to it, too, because

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the VEC was mad about this.

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Cash was mad about this.

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And obviously I do say some inflammatory things, but then

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it's like, okay, so now we can't.

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Like, now we have to accept Indians in our country, and we

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can't criticize the public figures that are responsible.

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And then also I'm bringing this up because it's a very like

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Indian thing to do to, like, manipulate the system to destroy

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people you think are less than you or are lower than you.

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And I genuinely feel like there's a lot of aspects to this

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where it looks like it's cash Patel.

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Sure.

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I mean, I would say it's a very human thing to do.

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Oh, wow.

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Wow.

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Listen, buddy, we're not fitting you for a clanhood today.

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What is happening when Alex has to respond?

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I think it's a very human thing to do.

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You know, you have gone a little bit far past the line.

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Racist for me, the guy who's afraid of children wearing

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burkas in a pool supply store.

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Yeah, I think that there's an element of it that is like

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it's unsophisticated racism.

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Sure.

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It's way too overt.

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Oh, man.

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It's not funny.

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No.

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And it's just kind of stupid.

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And I think that Elijah also sounds stupid.

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Yes.

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And I think that those are whether or not Alex would go

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along with that's a very Indian thing to do, like that kind

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of talk, whether or not you would.

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Right.

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The boundaries, the hurdles to it are those things.

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If it were funny, Alex would play along.

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Right.

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If Elijah came off way smarter, like he knew his shit,

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Alex would probably be like, all right, whatever.

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Yeah.

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Or if Elijah was a hotter commodity in the right wing media,

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he's a bit player, and so he's not going to be able to pull

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this shit.

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He's not an entertaining enough racist.

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Yeah.

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You know, there's plenty of ways to I mean, it is almost

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a big life out of you.

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Well, it is very funny, but only in the sense of how

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stark and dry it is that you can't even like, boof, wow,

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you're just raw dogging it right out the gate.

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God damn.

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Yeah.

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I think what's almost so funny about it is how this is not

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dissimilar from what you would see in educational contexts

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of talking about the civil rights era.

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100%.

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How racist people were, like how free that kind of speech

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was then it's like, well, we have just regressed.

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I mean, it is something that you can never communicate

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properly to racists, right?

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But everything that he is saying, I understand he believes

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that to be true in the moment, but I could take those words

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and remove Indian and put Irish in or remove Irish and put

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black in.

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Exactly.

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Like, you could say that at any different period in America's

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history about any that's a very Catholic thing to do is

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what's available.

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That's very Protestant.

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There was every possibility to use the exact same language

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in the exact same way about whatever group you want to say.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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And it's sad.

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And to a level that is pretty funny.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, Elijah Shafer has some other thoughts.

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Yeah.

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Not just about Indians.

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He also believes that the Trump administration has been

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compromised and that they're done.

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I believe that.

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And Alex is like, well, hold on now.

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Okay.

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And as a Trump supporter my entire life, it is hard for me

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to say the Trump administration is compromised.

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I repeat, this is not a drill to the American people.

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Thank you for repeating.

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The Trump administration is completely compromised, and now

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they have turned their guns back on us.

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And if you are a journalist, who could have seen this

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been credible and has helped the Trump admin.

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But we're being honest with the public now that whatever

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money this was or whatever blackmail there may be on him

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or even not even that the Epstein is blackmail.

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Maybe it's just embarrassed his friends or incriminated

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the wrong people and they threatened to kill him.

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I don't know who could have seen this.

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We cannot trust this administration.

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They have turned on us just like Biden did when he said

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the biggest threat is from within.

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We need to be aware that, you know, all this is not a worry,

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but the direction is starting to go.

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We got to put major pressure on them for course.

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Correct.

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A lot of Kennedy's in there.

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I don't know.

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I mean, listen, I know you want to agree.

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I'm saying it has been compromised.

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I'm saying, look, I don't know what else people you're

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not getting invited back.

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But you're not coming back.

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Hold over.

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Can you use more time with us?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine.

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I want to come back and talk about can it be fixed?

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Because I agree it's gone for real.

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Can it be fixed?

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The complete capitulation and compromising of the

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administration.

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Can it be fixed?

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I think that Alex is going to run into more and more people

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who aren't going to play along in the way that Elijah didn't

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there. Yeah.

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It almost sounded like he wanted to say, come on, man.

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Yeah.

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What are you talking about?

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But what are we going to do?

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He literally said, what else do people need?

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Yeah.

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What else do you need to see to give up on this shit?

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I've asked myself that question plenty of times.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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So we got a little bit more of Schaeffer after the break.

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How is it possible that this guy is still going?

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Well, because Alex wants not to end on this kind of a note.

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Right, right, right.

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Wants to talk about some other stuff.

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I understand your criticisms.

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Now make it okay for me to ignore them completely and still

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support Trump.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Like maybe we should talk about whether or not Kash Patel

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can do a pull up.

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There we go.

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Even the lawsuit says I never said anything about her.

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Do you know who I have said things that are critical of?

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Do you know who I have?

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Kash Patel.

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I've been very critical of Kash Patel.

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Very critical.

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So it's not sure he's hiding behind her.

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It doesn't look like it.

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I would say this.

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He is hiding behind her.

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It's a very the blaze thing to do for me to overstep

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and to assume that.

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Well, this is a lawsuit of assumptions, Alex.

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So there's without a shadow of a doubt.

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Like I mentioned earlier, he was mad about the comments

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about him being Indian.

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He was mad about the comments about Valhalla.

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He was mad.

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I had another viral tweet about him swearing

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by a demon, the Bhagavad.

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And he's mad about the cultural and the job.

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This man is an embarrassment.

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He can't even do a pull up.

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I don't know if you saw that video he released

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where he's trying to kip and he can't get his body up.

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We have an FBI director who's struggling

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to pull his own body weight above a straight bar.

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And that's a symbol for what's happening here.

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What happens in corrupt regimes is when they fail,

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they don't just fail.

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They try to take down everyone who points it out.

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Because why?

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Well, let's pull up.

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Not to be mean, but what else?

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Having cash for talking to pull up.

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Let's do Mondami needs two guys with 145 pounds.

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Let me see.

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Where is that?

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See, there's a whole bunch of pull-ups.

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He's in good shape.

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Ellie's got a 76 flag.

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Now he's not binge pressing 500 like you.

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So it's OK.

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This is cash, right?

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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I was going to say, wait, did you see the pull-ups?

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Did we play them already?

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Do the pull-ups again.

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Yeah, do the pull-ups again.

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The pull-ups is going to say, watch this.

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This is crazy.

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I'm not dogging on somebody's.

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I'm not a dog on other men, man.

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We all struggle.

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It's like, what are we doing?

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The thing is, I'm wearing my Riff TV t-shirt.

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Like, he looked there.

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I don't know what's going on here.

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No, you're saying they're not full pull-ups.

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Well, yeah, they're not full pull-ups.

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But it's like, I'm sitting here.

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I'm shredding right now.

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What?

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You and I, for some reason, don't need anyone to tell us.

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Well, I will say this about it.

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I'll just say they're not even beginning.

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They're not even beginning pull-ups.

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So my point is that I was fine when I was 20.

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You do 100 straight or maybe cheering on the gym, like full.

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The point is now I can do if I have to, I do 20 in a row.

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I almost kills me.

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But the point is, is that if I couldn't do that, those aren't even half pull-ups.

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I would not put that out.

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I can't believe he released a video of himself doing not even half pull-ups.

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I I yeah.

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I like I love having a good Bhagavad Gita reference swore on a demon.

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You know, one of the great holy books

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juxtaposed next to motherfucker can't do pull-ups.

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Can't do a pull-up.

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Motherfucker can't do a pull-up.

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Now you look at me.

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I'm shredding.

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Motherfucker, listen, we can talk about the Brahmin class all you want,

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but motherfucker can't do a pull-up.

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Look at these 24 inch pythons.

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I mean indigenous to India.

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To then have this guy be like, listen, neither of us need a reason to take our shirts off.

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Really undercuts his racism.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it just seems dumb.

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It's insane.

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I I wonder how many pull-ups Bernie can do.

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That fucking old asshole.

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You know what?

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Fine.

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Actually, I swear to God, I swear to God, I would put a lot of money on if we chose

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leaders via pull-up contest, there's a better percentage of good leaders compared to the

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ones that we've had over the past 60 years.

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Trump can do so many pull-ups.

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So many.

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You don't, you don't like, he wears a lot of coats.

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So you don't see his upper body.

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Let's go.

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Let's re-litigate some pressed presidential elections via pull-ups.

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I think Obama is winning both of the ones that he ran.

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For sure.

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I think Hillary probably out, out, uh.

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I say Howard Dean winds up pulling that one out.

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Okay.

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We're also doing primaries by pull-up.

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Oh yeah.

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I guess that's tough.

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That's tough.

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Yeah.

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So McCain Obama.

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Right.

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Bush, Bush beats.

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I don't know.

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Bush would have beat Gore.

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Yeah.

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Well, Gore is not a pull-up guy, but Bush and Kerry are both former military men.

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True.

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You know, they've both, they've both put in some, I mean, not Bush, obviously, but, uh,

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and I don't,

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Ooh, but here's the twist.

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Yeah.

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Lieberman beats Cheney.

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That's the one that does it.

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That's the one that does it.

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Yeah.

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So we never get Bush.

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We've got the, the tiebreak is the vice residential.

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Yeah.

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Cause I think Al Gore and Bush would be pretty closely matched.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But Cheney's fucked.

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Yeah.

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Um, so then we, so he, so, so he wins 2000.

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Right.

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2004 never happens the way it does.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So then we can't predict any elections by pull-ups after that.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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That was the final pull-up contest.

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Ooh, Clinton beats Dole for sure.

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I mean, there is 0% chance Dole wins the pull-up contest.

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He's got a one-arm pull-up.

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He can't even, that is, if he wins a pull-up contest, he deserves to be president.

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I would vote the shit out of Bob Dole if he could win a pull-up contest.

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But I think Bush senior might've beat Clinton, especially around 92.

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Clinton was way out of shape.

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Clinton was out of shape.

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That was part of his, his thing is that he was trying to run more to get back into shape.

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But yeah, he was doing that.

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But HW, HW is not a in the field guy.

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HW is a desk jockey.

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No, but I think, I think it would probably take two or three for him to win the pull-up contest.

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That's fair.

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I think he's, I think he's capable of that.

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That's fair.

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Probably.

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But let's ask, let's ask ourselves this very serious question.

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What amount of pull-ups can Ronald Reagan do every year of his presidency?

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I think second election he's in trouble.

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Yeah.

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Second election is negative four.

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Like second election, he doesn't know where the bar is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But.

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I don't, I mean, this is always going to be a lot more fun than dealing with the fact that

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the other part of this conversation is a guy being like, that's a very Indian thing to do.

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And that Indian can't even do pull-ups.

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Right?

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What is happening?

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You know, it was really good.

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Who?

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Goldwater.

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Goldwater.

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Goldwater.

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Goldwater would have, yeah.

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Goldwater would have changed the game.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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So we have one last clip of, of this dip, dip, Elijah Schafer.

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Yep.

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She's like, how did, how did Kash Patel get a hot girlfriend?

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I, you know, I got a beautiful wife.

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Got very good, whatever.

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It's like, it's like, look, I'm shredded.

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You know, it's like, I, you can, you can see my, my, my abs at the very least.

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And I got, you know, got striations and I only bring this up because it's like, I don't even

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like, I I'll put up some videos every once in a while, but it's like, look, man,

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people have questions about you, cash.

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You're, you know, you're a short little guy with crazy eyes, no striations, and you're posting

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videos to overcompensate about you working out.

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People want to know how you got a girl 20 years younger than you.

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Who's hot.

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And look, I don't comment that girls are hot that are random people's girlfriends,

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but she's a public figure.

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You could say a public figure is hot.

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Alexis Wilkins is an attractive girl.

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That's not racism.

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You know, what, what does she see in him?

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Well, you're dealing with something, man.

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And it's not what you think.

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Oh man.

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I got a wife and I'm shredded.

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How did he get a girl so young and hot?

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It is hard to listen to that part of the conversation and not think maybe this guy is

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transposing some of his feelings in other political areas.

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Yeah, it seems like that could be, that could be a piece of it.

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And I also think that when you listen to this kind of like childish, immature shit about

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like, how do you get a hot girlfriend?

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Yeah.

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Like you hear that and you're like, oh, that's the same brain that's saying this is an Indian

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thing to do.

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They come from the same place, the same stunted development and immaturity.

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And so I think that's very, very funny.

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Yeah.

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And I agree with you that I would be surprised if Alex really wants to spend that much more

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time with him.

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I don't think their, their vibes match well.

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His vibe sucks.

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I don't like hearing him talk somehow more than a lot of other people.

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Now that's bad news because it makes me want to do an episode about him to try and give

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you superpowers.

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I mean, I am, I, there are, there are some things that interest me about this guy.

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Uh, I am interested in a guy who is really into striations.

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Sure.

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Anybody who is like got an opinion on striations and also global international politics, I'm

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interested in.

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And gets really defensive about how like, yeah, Kash Patel's girlfriend's hot, man.

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I can say she's hot.

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What the fuck?

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I don't see people.

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Where are we?

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What is happening that you are doing this?

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Middle school, baby.

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All of this insecurity.

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This is one of the more insecure people that you could hear, right?

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It's painful.

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And they have, he has absolutely no concept of this.

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He can't possibly understand what level of insecurity he's operating on.

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No.

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And I would argue that it's probable that he thinks he's the opposite.

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Yeah.

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Oh, for sure.

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He thinks that Kash Patel must be the insecure one.

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That's why.

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Weak little cuck.

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Absolutely.

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Talking about Valhalla.

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Yep.

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Such an Indian thing to do.

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Yeah.

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Putting up a video of doing poor pull-ups is a sign of your insecurity.

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Whereas me saying that I am shredding and filled with striations and I don't understand

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why he gets a hot girlfriend is not insecurity.

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You can see the difference, right?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Completely different.

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Yeah.

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What a loser.

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I'm going to do that.

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I'm just, I'm going to do an episode about it.

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Yeah.

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Fuck this guy.

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No.

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Fuck you.

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I wonder, that's one of the things that I can never really know without Pete.

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Is like, is this just because he's on an interview with Alex that he sounds this fucking stupid?

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Yeah.

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What would he do with his own time?

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Yeah.

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Like I, the mind reels.

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So I can't imagine somebody wanting to go to him with this level of insecure energy.

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You know what I mean?

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Like I could see him being able to be on his own show and like in control of saying stuff.

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And then he gets invited onto stuff like info Wars, where it's revealed that he's a giant

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insecure loser.

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Right.

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But I can't imagine somebody wanting to be a guest on his show and then them having a

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conversation where they're not suddenly like, you're a giant insecure loser.

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I got to get out of here.

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I kind of would like to go on his show and just be like, you all right?

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You all right, buddy?

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Buddy.

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Are you hurting?

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Buddy.

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What's going on?

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Oh man.

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There is, there is, there is so much of like,

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the, the it's how to describe the, the lack of just regular maturity, you know, like there's

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no, there's so many conversations about a lack of masculinity or the lack of masculine

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role models or the lack of all of this stuff.

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But it's just like, why can't we just get a regular baseline for maturity?

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Yeah.

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Irregardless.

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And, and, and let, let them be totally clear.

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Neither you nor I are super mature.

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No.

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Absolutely.

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There is a lot of immaturity in our lives.

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I chose this.

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I'm a clown.

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Right.

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It's not like everyone has to be, uh, like, uh, stuffy adults and not laugh at farts or

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whatever the fuck, but it's notable how immature this is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's fun to be, uh, playful and flirty with him.

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Playful.

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Immaturity is good.

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Immaturity that creates systems where you like try to hurt other people.

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Immaturity has no part of system.

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Immaturity shouldn't be anywhere near systems.

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Immaturity can't even handle solo, let alone a group.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, um, I don't know.

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I think this is a good way to deal with the Epstein emails coming out and we'll, I guess

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we'll see how Alex continues to deal with even further revelations that may be tough.

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You just got to get a more extreme racist on every like, oh man, I forgot about the

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Epstein emails immediately after this guy said some shit.

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Stefan Molyneux is back.

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Whoa!

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But I don't think that it was intentional.

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That's the thing.

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That's the thing that makes it even more funny.

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Yeah.

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It's like, I don't think that Alex had any idea that, that, uh, Schaeffer was going to

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go off into this, this territory.

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How could you?

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Yeah.

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And I don't think he was thrilled with it.

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No, absolutely not.

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So, anywho, we'll be back with another episode, but until then we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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