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Dan and George!
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Riddle riddle riddle riddle riddle.
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Andy and Candice.
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Andy and Candice.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Candice.
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Andy and Candice.
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Andy and Candice.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Candice, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller and my huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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knowledgefight.com
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today, let's get back to MacGyver.
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Let's get back there.
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So, I watched the next episode of MacGyver.
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No kisses.
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No smooches?
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No.
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No ants?
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No ants.
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Okay.
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The bad guys in this episode were some fellas who'd stolen a Brinks truck.
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Sure.
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Are they bad guys?
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Yeah, alright.
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They've taken over an airport, a little small airport.
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So MacGyver's going out, he's trying to go fishing at this place that him and his dad
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used to go to back when he was a kid.
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Takes a wrong turn, ends up going to this airport trying to get directions.
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What are you gonna do?
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Right?
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It has been taken over by thieves.
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Just so happens that that's the day.
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So they take MacGyver hostage, along with the rest of the people.
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Huge mistake.
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Huge mistake.
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And chaos ensues, and a guy heals from his trauma about Vietnam.
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That's good!
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That's nice!
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It's wrapped up in a good 45 minute episode.
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Most of the story, a lot of it hinges on whether or not this guy is willing to fly a helicopter
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in order to save everyone there.
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Right.
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Because he swore after Vietnam he would never fly another helicopter.
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And so he finally finds it within himself.
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I suppose that's a positive thing.
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I like a guy who sticks to his guns, even in the face of adversity.
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But I understand the guy sentencing everybody to death is probably not a good TV character.
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So instead of kisses, there is sort of MacGyver being the best guy in the world.
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Because the guy who's recovering from Vietnam is in love with the waitress from this airport.
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Right.
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Right.
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And they just can't get it together because he can't get over Nam.
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Right.
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And so by encouraging him to fly this helicopter, he has allowed them to love each other once
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more.
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Well, it deserves a peck on the cheek at least.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Come on!
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Nope.
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MacGyver is selfless with the kisses.
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I don't know when smooches became MacGyver's thing, but I like it.
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I appreciate it.
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Well, I think it was because there were two in the first episode.
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Right.
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It was jarring.
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Yeah, that's just too many.
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Now, this episode also features a young Jackie Earl Haley.
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Really?
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Not that young.
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Not the kid Jackie Earl Haley.
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Not like Bad News Bears.
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No, adolescent Jackie Earl Haley?
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Yeah.
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Alright.
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He plays one of the creeps who's taken over the airport.
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One of the criminals.
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Right.
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Man.
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Did he say that you guys aren't locked up here with me?
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Wait, no.
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I think I got it backwards.
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You're doing a Rorschach?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No.
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He doesn't do that, but he does say, I'm a youth.
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He's a lot younger than the other criminals.
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Right.
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Anyway, it was fun.
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I'm excited to keep watching.
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I will say that this one was a little bit of a meh compared to ants.
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I mean, come on.
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Yeah.
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Ants are like a season finale.
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You can't just... ants in the sixth episode?
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What is that?
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That's way early on.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is I met my childhood best friend for lunch.
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He reached out and was like, ah, I exist.
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And I was like, wow, me too.
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We were alive at the same time.
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And then we went and had lunch.
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He's a great person.
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Which is cool because I was thinking about this afterwards.
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I was like, considering where we're from, considering where the world is and how it's
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heading and how it changed while we were growing up, the chances are much higher for both of
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us to be horrible people.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true.
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The odds are not in your favor.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So that the two of us worked out made me think maybe there was truly something of like when
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we were growing up, we influenced each other to keep us from eating pieces of shit later
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on in life.
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I doubt it.
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You know?
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I wouldn't take credit for him being decent.
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No, no, no.
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I was going far the other direction.
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He was responsible for you being decent.
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He's basically kept me from throwing my life away.
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Or I guess maybe becoming the most popular right wing podcaster there's ever been.
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There were only two options for me.
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Well one's still available to you later.
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Sure, sure.
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That'll happen.
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Yeah, that's always on the horizon.
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It could be.
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But I'm glad you had a good time and reconnecting is always a little bit scary, a little bit
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stressful beforehand, but I think it always is nice.
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I think it usually is nice.
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I mean it could have been even fine, but it was great.
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That's awesome.
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Well congratulations.
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Yeah!
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Today is not going to be great.
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That is unexpected.
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But it is a meeting of friends.
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Okay!
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And there are some friends that we'll talk about on this episode.
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Oh no.
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But first, before we get into any of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to
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some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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First, from the king of cats, forget the frogs, stepdad to my bisexual roommate's bisexual
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cat who gets bullied by my girl Yennefer.
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I'm sorry, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Says I'm sorry at the end.
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Yes.
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Next, taking a fistful of super male vitality and back stroking at Barton Springs, then
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hum the Jaws theme.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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I will karate chop you if you land in Shenzhen or Hong Kong, and I'm swimming in rare earth
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minerals here in China.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to the episode numbers jump from 425 to 427, and I'm filled to the
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brim with righteous indignation.
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Release the 426 cut.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Unfortunately Todd Snyder owns that episode and we don't, we're not allowed to.
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Well that was the one where we found out that both our moms names were Martha.
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Right.
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And that allowed us to, I guess, connect on a more emotional level.
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And we no longer own the rights.
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Right, that's true.
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So Jordan, today, like I said, we're talking about some friends.
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And that is, I wanted to branch out a little bit and see what was going on in some of the
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other, the other people in the Alex-overse.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And it just so happened that Alex was recently on his trainer, Sean Johnson's podcast.
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Sean Johnson got a podcast.
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Why wouldn't you?
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Not Sean Johnson, the Olympic gold medal gymnast who won Dancing with the Stars.
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Yes.
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Very different one.
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That's not.
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She does not train Alex Jones.
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That would be an interesting twist though.
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It would.
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Yeah, it would.
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No, this is a guy who's a former enlisted guy.
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Sure.
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And someone who has no juice.
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Probably in really good shape though.
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Yes.
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I think, I think that is, that is definitely fair to say.
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He is yoked.
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Yep.
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But I don't think he has a lot of charisma.
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And so I wanted to, I wanted to see what these, these other figures were like.
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Sure.
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Because we only really know him as a name that Alex brings up.
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That's true.
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Um, and so, hey, let's, let's, uh, let's see what, uh, what they're all about.
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I would be delighted to see what they're all about.
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So what it turns out they're all about is ripping off Rogan.
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Are you not entertained?
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Is this not why you are here?
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Rolling.
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All right.
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Rolling, rolling, rolling.
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Keep them doggies moving.
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Episode 23, Alex Jones, the man.
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Nope.
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Sean B. Johnson's the man.
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No, no, sir.
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No.
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You're paving the way for young guys like us.
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Like what you're doing is incredible.
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Um, thank you for coming on.
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You bet.
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Love it.
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That just feels like a Rogan opening to me.
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There's this music, there's a little sound drop of, are you not entertained?
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Yeah.
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As long as the, uh, train by day, Rogan podcast at night, you know, like there's this intro
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and then it's as if we're just rolling.
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We're just rolling.
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We're just starting the conversation.
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I get just aesthetically as a, it feels like a cheap knockoff.
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It is, uh, when you're being an artificial, uh, uh, uh, you know, performer, you know,
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you're, you're acting, you're saying somebody else's words, you're, you're, but you're,
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you're, you're a mechanical person existing within this job.
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Right.
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Uh, on the level of quality is how well you pull it off, how well you make it look like
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it's not artificial at all.
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This is not that this is very much artificial as shit.
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This is like an AI making a podcast about like make a Rogan show.
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Yeah.
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And I think it's a testament to how like heavily influenced all of these people in that sphere
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are that like, I don't know if they can really conceive of much else, but doing another Rogan
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thing and it sucks cause they're not Rogan.
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Well, I mean, creativity isn't really rewarded in their spheres either.
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True.
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You know, and at the end of the day, when you really look at it, what he did wasn't
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that creative, but creative.
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He just got there early.
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He was really good at being high.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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God boy, the world.
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So Sean starts off this interview by asking about the recent news, uh, that the Supreme
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Court is not interested in Alex's appeal.
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Not at all.
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And so he asked about that and Alex has a take.
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I know we wanted to get you back on here as soon as possible because the verdict just
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came back.
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Uh, they are not going to hear your appeal with the Supreme Court.
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And so I don't want to talk about anything else.
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Let's jump right into that.
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What the fuck is going on?
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And we were also layering into the latest on Charlie Kirk, Trump, um, but it all ties
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together.
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This is a lot bigger than just me.
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The we've, we've, we've sued them.
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It's come out in court that Obama put me under national security investigation 2013 and in
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Comey.
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Those daughters were released by the Trump administration about seven months ago and
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they had a dragnet and we're looking for something criminal to put me in jail.
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And even once Trump got in in 2016, 2017, it still continued on.
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Trump never got control of the justice department.
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And so they settled and I've admitted this on claiming I said and did things concerning
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Sandy Hook.
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I said, so the years of discovery and then found nothing wrong.
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So they claimed that I didn't give them evidence that they claim existed with no proof.
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So that answer that Alex gives is interesting.
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I think on two fronts.
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The first is that he's saying that the courts claim that he failed to turn over evidence
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with no proof.
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He's arguing that they insisted that Alex held a piece of evidence that he wasn't giving
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them.
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But in reality, this evidence didn't exist.
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They were demanding him turn over something that wasn't real.
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So this is essentially a trap that he got put into in a situation like this.
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It's very difficult to prove that someone's withholding evidence without knowing what
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that evidence is.
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In Alex's case, though, the court absolutely knows that he withheld evidence because his
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lawyer accidentally sent the plaintiff's lawyers in Texas part of Alex's phone records.
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In discovery, Alex was required to turn over all communications that he had that mentioned
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a ton of key terms, including Sandy Hook.
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And he turned over a bunch of stuff, but it appeared incomplete when his text messages
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were accidentally sent to the lawyers.
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There was one where Paul Joseph Watson was warning him that this covid stuff that he
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was doing was, quote, Sandy Hook all over again, which should have been turned over
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in discovery.
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Yeah, but that one's really incriminating.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The fact that this text wasn't produced in discovery irrefutably proves that there was
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material that Alex was required to turn over to the court that he did not.
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There is rock solid proof that he didn't comply fully and appropriately with discovery.
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So when he's saying that they say I didn't turn over everything with no evidence now,
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it's so often very easy to make that argument.
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And he is one of the few cases where you can.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is like to the point where I feel it escalates to a moral obligation to say, yeah, you got
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me, you know, like this was you got me, you got you got me.
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Like if we're in a dunk tank, bullseye, you're in the water, you know.
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But how is it?
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How can we live in a world where he's still allowed to say you didn't get me?
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Yeah, that's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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It is.
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It is.
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It's a refutation of the continuity of reality.
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It makes you question what is real.
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If this is allowed, he can possibly ever be held to account for anything.
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This is not.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's there.
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Like it makes you scream things like it's there.
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So the second thing there is that Alex's story about this case seems to have changed.
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For years, it was started by Hillary Clinton because she was too afraid of Alex's connection
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with Trump.
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She wanted to destroy Trump, so she cooked up a case against Alex to attack Trump by
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extension.
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But now Obama started this in 2013?
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The fuck are we talking about?
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Yeah, I thought we were in the 2015 region was when she started bringing everything back
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to the fore.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Now it goes deeper still?
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Yeah.
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How could I believe that?
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So this is about some FOIA documents that came out recently that showed that the FBI
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was assessing, quote, white racially motivated extremists in 2013.
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It says nothing about Alex.
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It's just kind of understood by all these media figures that he is a white identity
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extremist.
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Yeah.
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So this must have been Obama trying to crush him.
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Well.
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I can say this with no uncertainty.
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If Clinton, Obama or Biden were half as inclined toward dictatorship as Trump is, Alex would
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be in prison right now.
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He has committed crimes and the only thing that's protected him is that his enemies believe
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in upholding the traditions and protections that our legal system affords.
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He is living free because other people believe in the rules that he pretends to care about.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I know it would be a tough sell, but it would be something where I would consider it much
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more cleanly if Obama had been like, guys, I listen, I get it, but I'm just going to
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take this one off the board.
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This one's me.
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I'm just going to take this one off the board.
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Come what may.
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I think it makes more sense than to go through all of your bullshit.
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But you know what?
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Chess is the way it is.
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Bye.
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You know, I would have, I would have been able to accept more of that argument.
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I believe in the rule of law.
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Everything is very important.
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Seriously.
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Seriously.
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Fuck this guy in Texas.
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Listen, 100% I am all on board with the law.
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I'm a lawyer.
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Fuck that guy.
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Let's get him.
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So Alex believes and argues that there was fake evidence that was used against him in
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court.
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Right.
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And so he says that and Sean asks him like, like what, what was the fake evidence?
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Uh oh.
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They had two show trials produced three years ago where I was already found guilty by the
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judge.
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The judges instruct the jury I'm guilty and they put on all this fake evidence.
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I'm not allowed to challenge it.
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And Texas had a $45 million judgment and Connecticut a $1.4 billion.
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What was that evidence?
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What's this fake evidence that they put out?
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Well when a judge defaults you, uh, then they're still supposed to put on a trial on damages.
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But even that wasn't real.
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Uh, so it was just completely rigged.
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Answer the question.
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Now they've done that to, uh, Mike Lindell on my pillow.
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I just saw that.
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Um, where a federal judge said, I decide you're guilty.
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Sean doesn't get that he's not supposed to ask a question like that.
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He's just supposed to nod along and say, Oh my God, they were so mean to you, Alex.
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This is the kind of question an actual interviewer might come up with because it's interesting.
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And if Alex was telling the truth, it would lead to some good conversation.
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Alex is just making up that they presented fake evidence though.
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So if you ask him what the fake evidence is, he doesn't have an answer.
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And that kind of reveals the illusion of this whole thing.
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He has no answer.
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You can, so you can see how Alex has to awkwardly change the subject and see if he can get some
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momentum going in another direction.
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Talking about my pillow.
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See if we can get Sean to forget what his question was to begin with.
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Yeah.
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You'd really think he's had a lot of time to find that fake evidence at this point in
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time, or at least make up some your own fucking you're using the contracts that fake George
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Soros made for Antifa make up a contract for, uh, we're using fake evidence to get Alex
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Jones and Obama signed it.
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Well, I think one of the issues that Alex has is he has to say pretty vague on this
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because I do think that if he were to say that the lawyers introduced fake evidence
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and use a specific, they would fuck him.
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Like you might be able to, you might be able to get him into court real fast with that.
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Right, right, right, right.
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You can't do it to lawyers.
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Yeah.
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Then you'll get in trouble.
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They're efficient.
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You can do it to parents.
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Come on.
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I think that, uh, I think he would, he understands that the hammer could fall pretty quick if
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he was accusing them of committing crimes within a courtroom.
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Right.
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And so you used to keep it vague and be like, Oh, the whole trial was fake evidence.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's fucking nonsense.
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I do like that.
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I do like a good, uh, hold on, hold on.
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This whole thing is imagining.
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Oh, all right.
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All right.
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So Alex, uh, rants a little bit here about his, uh, forefathers and all of these intellectuals
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that used to come on his show and coached him and taught him about life.
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The sick, beautiful irony of this is even if you guys kill me or put me in prison or
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whatever you do, you can't stop the signal because now Alex Jones is everywhere.
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It's like Spartacus.
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We're all Alex Jones now.
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Okay.
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And the truth is I only popularized what the former head of the FBI in Los Angeles taught
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me what the former head of air force weapons development taught me, what my uncle who was
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in black ops, all over central South America, Iran, contrary, you name that Southeast Asia
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before that everything he taught me, everything that all these amazing people taught me when
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I was a child and a teenager and then an adult.
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So the truth is I didn't discover all this.
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I didn't, I know I simply got on air when I was 19 and already had the background and
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then, and then was able to get syndicated and successful by the time I was 21.
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And then I got to be interfaced with all the top brains, the Anthony Sutton's that ran
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the Frank Church committee hearings on the deep state, all of them, the G. Edward Griffiths,
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the Ron Paul's, all of them, all of them, all the inside experts from Reagan, all the
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head of the department of education, Charlotte Iserby.
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I got to sit there with thousands of all the best people we've got seven days a week, interviewing
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them, researching, traveling, being sent documents by them.
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And that's why, that's why I've been proven right.
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Because all I did was take what all these people that didn't have media and we're doing
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conferences and writing books and trying to warn people and go into Congress and trying
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to get them to listen that Congressman Larry McDonald, the Democrat who was super hardcore
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and was going to win the presidency.
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So they killed his ass.
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You know, the John Birch society, William F. Jasper, all these people.
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So I stood on their shoulders, but I was able to take this giant brain trust and put it
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out in a interesting, I guess, entertaining way.
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I wasn't trying to, but that's just how it happened.
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And so none of the credit goes to me because all the people's shoulders I stand on, but
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now they were the core.
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I was the next big wave blasted out.
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And now this new wave is a hundred times bigger.
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I'm getting chills and it's just everywhere.
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Ooh, chills.
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So what about the visions from God that Alex got as a child?
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Like what about his gift of prophecy and all the dreams that tell him the future?
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I get that Alex wants to make it sound like he comes from a serious line of thinkers and
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all that, but he just ranted for two minutes about what makes him important.
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And there's not a single word about God.
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It's almost as if he has a sense that Sean's brand is a little more in the Rogan space
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than the Tucker space, where it might be a little embarrassing for him to just let Alex
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make himself the Messiah on this show.
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And like, he's his trainer.
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They know each other.
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Yeah.
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And you were like, God chose me as a child to lead the resistance against the devil.
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Your trainer might be like, hey man, what the fuck are you talking about?
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We got three sets in of leg presses the other day.
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You also didn't fall to your knees and get healed by Jesus.
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Yeah.
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Come on, man.
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I've seen you sweat.
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I wonder if there was a conversation between Alex and God at some point where God was like,
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listen, let me get out in front of this.
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You're going to have to lie to people about me.
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You know you're not going to be able to sell my brand on other people's shows.
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So I give you full permission to omit me from your list of accomplishments, even though,
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yes, I am God.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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He's like, I'm not going to take it personally.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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I'm God.
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I already planned this whole thing out.
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I can't be mad at you.
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I have to let you know in advance, it's cool.
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It is cool.
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It has to be cool because he doesn't seem to feel any guilt about it whatsoever.
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No.
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And it seems very different than what he says in a lot of other circumstances.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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Also a small point.
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There's no way Alex had Larry McDonald on his show because that dude died in 1983.
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McDonald was on a Korean Airlines flight to South Korea that was shot down when it entered
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Soviet airspace.
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And because he was a diehard anti-communist at John Birch Society guy, it became part
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of an elaborate conspiracy.
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Sure.
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Incidentally, Larry McDonald also ran his own intelligence company called Western Goals.
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An article about it in Politico quotes one of its former employees, Mary Jo Buckland,
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as saying, quote, a lot of funding came from Germany, more than what came from the United
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States.
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A lot of it was kept from us.
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The Germans were all a lot of medals and they had a lot of money.
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The Germany people never came to the United States.
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They would fly Western Goals accountant to Germany.
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Something didn't feel on the up and up.
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Western Goals, former John Birch Society guy, Germany.
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I'm not liking it, buddy.
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That triangle doesn't hunt.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So that's the people that Alex looks up to.
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That's great.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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Not God.
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I would say 95% racists explicit and extreme.
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5% crypto racists.
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Still 0% God.
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Crazy.
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Yep.
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So a lot of this is obviously, but Sean's not much of a spark of life.
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Not super entertaining.
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I think Alex can feel it.
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And so he's got to fill space.
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And a lot of this is just giving him a platform to complain about the Sandy Hook stuff because
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the appeal to the Supreme Court just got rejected.
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I can't imagine they thought that you would still be standing strong after this amount
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of time.
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I'm stronger.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I love the Connecticut when he goes, you don't get about the Godfather, the movie,
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the mafia.
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Oh yeah.
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Mario Puzo.
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I'm like, that's a great story about...
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He was gonna go speak at a college, Mario Puzo, who'd never written anything, never
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done anything.
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And he'd just hung around as Italian in New York and actually knew all the real mobs.
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So he put a fiction thing out on Backstreet with real people.
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He just changed the names.
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It's actually a documentary, literally.
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And he writes it and he's gonna go speak at a top college on screenwriting.
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Top college.
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Not one of those lower colleges.
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You can pull this up, the story's in there.
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And they say to him, they say...
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So they want him to go address the whole class of writers and film students on how to screenwrite.
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So he goes to the bookstore to buy the best selling book on screenwriting.
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And the whole thing's about the Godfather script and Mario Puzo.
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He didn't know that.
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But the funny thing is, you know what the Godfather is, Sonny?
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And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, the Mario Puzo book.
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He goes, no, no, the movie.
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You know, the Godfather, the mafia, you know what that is?
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And I'm like, oh, do I know what it is?
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You know what the real mafia is, jackass?
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Anyways, and so called good people.
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You mess with long enough, you find out.
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But the point was, he's like, well, that's who we are.
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You're gonna lose no matter what.
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So I'm gonna talk.
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But the point was, he's like, yeah, kid, once you learn we're thugs, once you learn we're
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crooks, you're gonna go piss on yourself.
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No, it's why I'm waging war on you.
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I know.
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Hmm.
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The idea of these people play these fucking games.
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I'm coming for you.
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You're not coming for me.
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Are you though?
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You understand that?
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I'm not locked in here with you.
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You're locked in here with me.
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Hey, five points.
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I turned against you and you're on the wrong side of history.
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Whoo.
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I know it.
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You should have saved that for the end.
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That would have been the end.
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We still got so much farther to go.
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Here's the thing.
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I haven't talked about this as much as I should.
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It's just built to a head now.
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I know.
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I know.
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I feel great about it because, you know, oh, God, you get a website, you shut down our
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building.
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Ooh, well, you just go work for other people.
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Already got my crew, new management, new everybody.
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And then I've just got a job there that they chase me around that I don't give a shit.
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I'm not a high roller.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, what are you gonna do?
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So this is fun, but Alex doesn't realize what his actual appeal is.
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If he has to sell Infowars and go work for somebody else, it pierces the entire premise
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that his career is based on, which is that he's totally free.
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He's his own man and no one can tell him what to do because he runs the whole thing.
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If he closes up shop and goes to work for Bigley, then he can get fired.
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Bigley obviously supports the political ideology that he pushes, but they're first and foremost
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a money-making operation.
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They sell shit, and if he does something that makes it impossible for them to make money
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selling shit, he's no longer worth employing.
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Alex can take on this posture that he doesn't need to be flashy and living a ritzy lifestyle,
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and that's fair enough.
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I do think that he would accept a certain amount of diminished luxury and continue doing
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what he's doing, but this isn't about that.
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It's about his soul and being free.
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At Infowars, Alex is free because it's a one-talent business built entirely around him.
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If he wants to get drunk and cry about demons on his show, no one can stop him.
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If he wants to pretend that an Ebola outbreak is about to happen in Denver, no one can stop him.
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If he wants to continue to harass the Sandy Hook plaintiffs and cover new stories in ways
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that mirror how he behaved to get those lawsuits started in the first place, no one can stop him.
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But Bigley isn't a one-talent business.
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They may like Alex and see a profit in him, but they run stores for tons of shitheads
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in the right-wing media and they don't need Alex.
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The audience may not immediately understand this, but the idea that Alex is an employee
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of someone else's thing will become a problem for them.
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In the back of their minds, the audience gets that in order for Alex to make money, he can't
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own any business ever again, and that makes his position vulnerable.
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Bigley may be better than him going to work for Fox News, but ultimately it's not that different.
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He's giving up his independence and putting himself in a position where corporate interests
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can very easily exert pressure on his content or fire him.
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So all this talk about victory and all this bluster is fine, and I'm sure it feels good
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to do these rants and talk about Mario Puzo, but underneath this, Alex almost certainly
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knows that it's not just a website or studio he's giving up.
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It's the entire idea of his career.
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He can't go back again.
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He's gonna be in a pocket.
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Whoever's pocket it is, it's still a pocket.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's no way to either reveal that everybody already knew that you were doing what you
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were told from Trump or whatever it is, and they don't care that you work for somebody
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else now, or you are revealing that even though you quote unquote work for somebody else,
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it's a bullshit arrangement and you should have all of your shit stolen from you again.
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You're either ruthlessly independent or you're safe from the bankruptcy.
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It's one of the two.
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That's the whole point of being Alex Jones is you get to pick one.
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There's no ambiguous...
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Everybody else has to live with like, oh, maybe I should do this or maybe not in this
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situation.
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Maybe I should...
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No, you're Alex Jones.
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You do the thing.
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Yeah.
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And if you're who Alex pretends to be, it's an automatic decision that you maintain your
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ruthless independence.
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The fact that he doesn't speaks to how this is all fake to begin with.
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So Sean, he's a young gun on the Rogan impersonator scene.
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And so he wants to ask Alex for some advice for other people in this media.
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Should I do 20 bicep curls or 30 bicep curls?
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No, no, no.
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That's the advice that he gives Alex.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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This is the other way.
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All right.
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So a lot of these other kind of, I guess, fringe influencers that are out there, quote
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unquote fringe, what are some like warnings you would give to them based off of what you've
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had to live through?
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I never put out sensational stuff for attention.
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I genuinely...
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And I've been wrong some and gotten things wrong, had people on that were wrong, but
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never intentionally.
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I see a lot of people just jumping on bandwagons because the public has woken up to their being
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lied to, but they haven't woken up to exactly what's going on.
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So just because you got the general public that wasn't awake yet, it's kind of like there's
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a fire alarm, you wake up, you don't know where the fire is, you're kind of like in
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the dark.
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So you got to flip the light on and get your bearings.
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So we have the Great Awakening happening.
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It's part of the Fourth Turning.
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It was predicted decades ago.
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It's here.
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But you've got a lot of people now that don't have enough depth or sophistication or context.
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And I see what they're doing.
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And they will just jump on things just because they know it's clickbait.
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And whereas the globalists lie to see for their power and control, there's an organization
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to that.
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And it's still very destructive.
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But because they've been proven to be liars, now Hillary Clinton can walk out on a blue
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sky day and say the sky is blue and people wouldn't believe her.
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And so then there's also a danger that people then think everything's a lie, everything's
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a conspiracy, everything's a scam.
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And then I get to hear, oh, you're the guy who thinks the Earth's flat or you're the
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guy that thinks reptoids really run things.
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I'm like, no, that's somebody else.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Alex doesn't believe in reptoids or flat earth.
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Those are just the things his friends believe.
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And he does clickbait interviews with them about those things.
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Right.
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And how dare people try to associate Alex with such silly ideas.
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He only covers the real hard hitting, not disputable facts like how God gave him 200
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prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman in the year before his death and Alex just ignored
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them for some reason.
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Or how God tells Alex what time it is in the middle of the night so he can prove that it's
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God talking when he tells Alex that he needs to slow down on the booze.
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And also that it's OK he doesn't tell people about God.
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Alex absolutely lies and does clickbait on purpose, but I think that he doesn't even
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register it like that.
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I think he just doesn't care what's true or not.
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He's not lying to the audience because truth is irrelevant to how a headline can be used
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in order to push what he thinks is a larger, more important truth, which is that white
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Christian men should hold all the power in society.
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And so I think in service of that larger truth, he allows himself to lie or imagines that
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God has given him permission.
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Yeah, I would say that whenever he says those types of words, I think he's more meaning
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it in like a this is a successful decision or a failure decision based upon how much
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money or influence I received from it.
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Right.
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So, yeah, I've gotten some things wrong because people got mad at me and didn't give me more
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stuff afterwards.
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But all the things that I'm right 99% of the time, look, I'm rich.
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Yeah, I think that there is like I think there's an irrefutable argument that comes down like
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this.
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He's the stupidest motherfucker in media.
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He's been wrong about almost everything fairly constantly.
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Yep.
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And he is still here.
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Yeah.
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In this place where people are willing to take him seriously.
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Jesus Christ.
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And that is a success in a way.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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But it has nothing to do with truth or falsity, but.
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There's an achievement somewhere or I guess like, I mean, it's not really an achievement
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for water to fill the open space.
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Right.
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Like if there's if you pour water, it's going to fill up the open space.
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So maybe he's just a fucking bowl of water that got poured in the right area.
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And he's just that's where he's going to be, you know?
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Yeah.
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And people didn't do a good enough job of setting up whatever sandbags needed to stop
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this flooding or whatever.
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This is fucking Katrina.
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Yeah.
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That's what it is.
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Alex talks about some good stuff that Trump's doing.
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Yeah.
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Which is surprising because there's a lot of really bad stuff that he seems to be ignoring.
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We have to get engaged and we have to be in charge by leadership.
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I do.
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Not by deception, not by theft, not by lies, but by election and by example and by quality,
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whether it's in businesses, corporations, everything is a vote in this world.
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And we have to hang our shingle out and we have to advertise that we are superior to
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these globalists and we want prosperity and goodwill.
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And Trump definitely wants that.
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He's definitely for a renaissance.
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I mean, you saw what he did two weeks ago.
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He pressured Saudi Arabia to basically double oil output.
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No one's never done that.
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Yeah.
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Now, now, now, now think people.
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He's got us as the number one producer in the world.
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We were number three under Obama.
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He cut it off, cranks us up to number one, beating Saudi Arabia.
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And then Biden comes in and prices double, which is the ultimate tax on people's energy
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cost.
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And then Trump skyrockets it back in just a few months to number one producer again.
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And then he tells US oil companies, I want you to work even harder to cut prices.
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And then he goes to Saudi Arabia and says, I want to help the whole world.
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So even though this is going to hurt US oil producers, the whole world's connected, which
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is true.
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I want to lower energy prices for everybody because this is a global problem.
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And my economist explained that to him.
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He already knew it.
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So he got the Saudi suit.
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They actually, you're right.
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Everything collapses, we're screwed.
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So they did the biggest increase in oil production ever.
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Now, now that is how you fight inflation.
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Okay.
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Is the base level.
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The Saudi government did agree to increase their oil production in the last months of
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2025.
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But part of that agreement was also to not increase in the first quarter of 2026.
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A lot of this does have the optics of a win for Trump, but the larger picture here is
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that OPEC understands that Russian oil companies are under sanctions.
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So raising production is a move that's designed not necessarily to lower prices, but to be
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more stabilizing on the supply end of the supply and demand.
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A lot of experts view it as a kind of risky move, but one that's not very surprising.
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More to the point though, shouldn't Alex think this is the government getting involved in
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price fixing for commodities?
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I feel like everything about his political ideology should be against the federal government
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getting another country to change its energy policy in order to manipulate prices.
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This isn't the free market that Alex loves and, and, and yells about being so important
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all the time.
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Trump is very manipulating here.
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Yeah, with these types of things, it is, it's when you know that you're so starved for a
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victory that what is actually a huge, horrible loss because in the moment seems like you've,
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you've got a big fist up in the air.
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You call it a victory anyways.
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Like there's no situation where in the long term Trump has done the country good.
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You know, like this is just a couple of days for him to go, well, look at how great I am.
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And then we move on with getting shittier.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a, it's a little, it's a little blip of a, Hey, hurrah.
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But I don't, I don't know if it's as impactful as Alex wants it to be, but you're right.
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It's because all the other surrounding stories are like, what the fuck?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it is, it is wild to consider that part of the decision making for a government
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like the United States is includes what can I make us look good about tomorrow on the
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paper?
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All these fucking people who are in prominent positions are media figures.
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Right?
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So of course it doesn't mean anything like, Oh, do people get to have more roads?
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I don't care.
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No, that's six months from now.
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Yeah.
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And, and who cares about roads?
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All that's important is whatever I can say in a media hit about road.
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Exactly.
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I got a promise for a thousand roads.
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Great.
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Cool.
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Great.
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So Alex talks about how he would do this for free.
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He loves it.
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He loves the fight.
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And then they, they got a non-dischargeable debt.
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Okay.
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Which means even with bankruptcy it never goes away.
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So to them, it's just a way to harass me and stalk me and have me be a hunted man and come
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after me.
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And they somehow think that means anything to me because, because it doesn't, I mean,
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I will, I will live under the bridge.
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I mean, I will live on the roof of the new studio they're building.
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I'll live.
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I'll live on a couch.
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In fact, I'll do it for free.
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I'll do this for free.
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And there could be a charity and they, and I just give them my food.
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I literally don't give a shit.
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So I mean, they can put a gun to my head.
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I'm not going to stop.
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They think this does a thing to me.
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So Alex in 1999 might've been willing to do this shit for free and live under a bridge,
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but hearing him say this in 2025 is a little much.
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It's important to understand that the reason that he set up these fake companies like Dr.
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Jones Naturals and the Alex Jones network are to make sure that he can still profit
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from his very easy job.
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If he really didn't care about being poor or living under a bridge, then he wouldn't
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be doing everything he can to protect his assets and wealth from the bankruptcy up to
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and including giving away his autonomy.
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Yeah.
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Alex can say that he would do this for free and that he would live under a bridge if it
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meant that he could get the truth out, but his actions are all in service of making sure
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that he's able to maintain his wealth and doesn't have to resort to some kind of harder
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job than being a guy who yells and makes shit up to piss people off.
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So I don't know.
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I find it, I find it unconvincing.
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You know, I guess it is technically true that you could say, right, uh, I would live under
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a bridge.
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I'd do this for free as long as you keep in parentheses, so long as I have exhausted every
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available fucking option to not do that, I will then do that.
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Yes.
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But I will do every single thing, including die before I do that.
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So would I really do that?
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Right.
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And I'm pretending that I so committed to the fight and being this person that I am,
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that I would suffer the, you know, like living under a bridge in order to stay that.
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And unfortunately all of Alex's actions are like, okay, I'll give up on being that kind
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of a guy if I don't have to live under a bridge.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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So it's kind of easy.
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The opposite every, every temptation to give up a piece of his integrity was taken.
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That's why we have none left.
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So go onto that bridge.
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Good luck.
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Yeah.
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I think his riddles would be bad.
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I was a bridge troll.
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I mean, that's a good question.
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Would they be harder to answer because they would be more incomprehensible or would they
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be easier to answer because they would be as easy to understand as he could?
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I think they would be half and half.
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You think half and half?
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Some would be so fucking easy.
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Like I open a door, what am I?
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You're a fucking knob.
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Right, right, right.
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Or like a key or whatever.
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It'd be so easy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then others would just be like using concepts no one's ever heard of.
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And like, this is, there's no way I could guess this.
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Two men go down the road, the sky is green.
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What is your name?
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Uh, uh, uh, uh, Fred.
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Dead.
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Ah shit, it rhymes with Fred.
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Yeah, I think half and half.
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Yeah, okay.
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So Sean asks Alex, like, hey, you're going out of business.
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How do you feel about that?
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How do you feel about that?
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He feels great.
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Does he?
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How do you feel about this next-
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We'll probably be shut down within about three weeks.
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This next chapter in your life, okay?
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They shut you down in the next three weeks.
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I mean, I told you, working out the river.
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I know.
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I said I feel great.
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Well, you tell them what I said.
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Well, you tell them what I said.
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Well, I want you to tell them.
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I want you to tell the audience like this, like you're literally turning the page, InfoWars,
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done moving over to AJ live, right?
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Well, here's the deal.
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It'll make the term InfoWar that's just generic bigger than ever.
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No, I understand.
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They'll have a website, but no, actually, Alex Jones Network.
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But I'm talking to you.
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Like how do you feel closing a chapter, a really long chapter in your life and moving
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to the future?
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Are you feeling reinvigorated?
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I feel great.
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Is this because it's obviously something you were trying everything to avoid and now it's
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here.
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Well, I pledge to do it and they want the name to misrepresent and act like they're
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me and a bunch of other harassment, which is fine.
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And when I say I'm going to fight and support the listeners, they buy so much product at
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the Alex Jones World.com and support us that I was 100% not pulling punches.
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I was fighting as hard as I could.
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But then there's something when you know you've been in a rigged game like the movie Gladiator,
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but you still get them at the end.
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This is their defeat and we're only going to get bigger out of this.
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And now they can target me all day instead of targeting my organization, trying to shut
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it down.
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Now I'll work for other people.
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And then now the money can go not to legal most of it, but to new crew and more hosts
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and going like basically 24 hours a day, at least 20 hours a day.
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So yeah, I'm excited in that I fought the fought, left it all in the field, exposed
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them, won the court of public opinion.
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And now they basically, I got a tug of war.
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I think they pulled something out of my mouth and run away with it.
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They don't know it's a lipstick, a dynamite to paraphrase, but it's kind of like Wiley
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coyote thinks he's going to get the road runner.
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It's the opposite to paraphrase a cartoon.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So like this whole thing that we've been through is a lot like Wiley coyote, not a horrible
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tragedy that we have existed in for fucking ever.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't think that Sean seems convinced by Alex's answer.
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I think that there is an internality that he'd like to discuss of like, how is this
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affecting you?
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This change of era in your career.
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And Alex is just unwilling to give him an inch.
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I appreciate this because this is unexpected for this guy.
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He is a personal trainer and somehow he's like, you are very shallow in an emotional
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sense.
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I would like you to open up and reveal more to me.
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I'm a sensitive soul.
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Well maybe like some of the things you say when we're exercising or hiking, maybe there's
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something that you've let me in on and you are not giving any of it.
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Do you cry a lot when you work out?
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Is that what we're really finding out?
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That'd be great.
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Yeah.
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That would be great if there was just an intro to this interview.
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All right.
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I just need to know Alex cries a lot.
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He cries every time we do fucking lat workouts.
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It's crazy.
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So instead of crying, they laugh and they laugh a little bit here reflecting on Alex's
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deposition in the Sandy Hook case.
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It feels good because men are supposed to crush tyranny.
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We're supposed to crush scum and that's what we're supposed to do.
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It feels good to be doing what I'm supposed to do.
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It just feels good.
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Yeah.
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Like a mountain morning or a beautiful sunset.
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Or your toddler running around the backyard playing with bubbles or whatever.
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It just feels like what you're supposed to do.
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Just smash.
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That's when they asked me on the stand of the show trial, they go, is always being accurate
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and telling the truth your number one mission?
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I said, no, crushing globally.
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Because they were going to come up with, oh.
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This is such a legendary situation.
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It's funny.
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You claim high-powered politicians are smuggling and trafficking children.
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How outrageous.
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Tell us about that.
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I go, you mean like the Clintons and Epstein?
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It's like, they just walk into this stuff.
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I think at this point it would probably be best for Alex to not even bring up Epstein
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anymore.
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His actions have thoroughly demonstrated to anyone paying attention that he does not care
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about the actual crimes that were committed and it's all just a prop that he uses to attack
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his enemies.
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So the less attention brought to it now, the better.
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He's taking a victory lap for bringing up Clinton and Epstein in his deposition many
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years ago, but seems uninterested in holding Trump in any way accountable for the very
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obvious connections that he has with the guy.
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By continuing to pretend to care about this when it involves Clinton, but giving Trump
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a full pass on it, you run the risk of the audience catching on that you really don't
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care about crimes against children.
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You're just happy to exploit people's revulsion about the subject for profit and you kind
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of look like a real asshole.
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Yeah.
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Hey, but at least they're having fun with it.
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They are.
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It's legend stuff.
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They're just doing laughing.
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I don't think it's fair personally to be Alex Jones having gone through the verbal lashings,
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the exsanguination via word that he's gone through to then be like, these stupid guys,
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here's how I zinged them.
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Here's how I zinged them.
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Yeah.
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I can't imagine some of those places that I remember doing standup.
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If a guy went home after that night and told his wife, I got him, I would want to have
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witnesses.
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I want audio.
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I want cameras.
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You did not get me, my friend.
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Also, I recall the deposition when Alex brought up Epstein.
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Mark was like, we will get back to that.
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I promise you.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's coming.
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Don't you worry.
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We'll cover this topic a little bit later, but answer the question that's in front of
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me.
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Absolutely.
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It's not like, hey, don't talk about this.
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Oh my God, I have been dunked upon.
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If you paid somebody 30 grand because people made fun of you too much, you don't get to
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talk about how you zinged the lawyers.
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Yeah.
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I think that's, you should reflect.
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So this is one part of Alex's, I think there's a media push.
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This was definitely something that was in his Tucker interview too.
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This idea of like focusing on Todd Blanche.
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He's the evil guy.
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He's the bad guy.
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Right.
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Ed Martin was trying to get Alex, like the DOJ to help him go after the Sandy Hook plaintiffs.
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Cause fuck it.
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And then Todd Blanche was like, shut it down.
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That's crazy.
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We're not that crazy.
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Are we that crazy?
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So now Alex is on the war path against Todd Blanche.
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He was against letting out J-6ers.
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These guys are foamy at the mouth.
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Can you believe it?
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Elitist, leftist, well no, Alex Jones' fringe a horrible person.
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We don't protect him.
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Oh, a little peasant down there.
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I mean, it's disgusting.
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So listen, it's not about me.
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Okay.
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It's that if obviously Todd Blanche was to protect the FBI and DOJ cause they ran this
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illegal crap against me.
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It's cover your ass time.
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But then, and I waited a week.
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I said, well, they're just doing that to cover my ass.
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Let me see if he talks smack.
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Oh, he talks smack, which is good.
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Cause I already knew what he was.
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And I'm like, good.
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You just, for everybody just came out and said, Alex Jones is scum.
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Good.
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Good.
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We already knew that.
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We already knew what you thought.
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You just told us who you are.
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Thanks for the confession, buddy boy.
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So you'll stack yourself up against me with the general public.
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And now everybody's investigating and all the stuff's going to come out.
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And we're going to get rid of you up there.
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We're going to get better people in.
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And if they don't tell the line for the truth, we'll get rid of them too.
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It's called public pressure.
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You're like, Oh God, he's dangerous.
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He can indict you.
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They've already tried a whole bunch, whatever.
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I've always been an active guy, pushing myself.
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But once I learned how captain forces your body into that fight or flight mode, wrecking
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my recovery, I'd get the boost, but I couldn't really rest.
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That's when I came across methylene bloom.
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Now obviously like I'm someone who's fairly opposed to advertising in most of its forms.
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Pretty much all of them.
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Pretty much all.
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I will be against, I'm not interested in it.
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I don't expect the rest of the world to follow exactly like the standards that I would set
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for myself in my behavior.
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I think that this is embarrassing.
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If you must do an ad, do an ad.
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Don't do it like this.
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Don't edit it like this.
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Find a natural point in the episode to just like, okay, here is where the subject changes.
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We can insert the commercial there.
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This and Tucker, it's disrespectful.
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Yeah.
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I will say this.
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I think what happens with these things now, all right, is I've heard of a few companies
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that have like an automated, we insert the ad thing.
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You know what I'm saying?
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They probably don't even listen to the show.
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It's just like at minute blank second, this ad goes in.
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Yeah.
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It's automatic.
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I think that that is wrong.
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Horrifying.
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That is maybe meaning you don't really give a shit about your show at all.
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I would, and God, I mean obviously we don't get any ad revenue from anything, but like
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if some platform was inserting commercials on our shit, I would hope someone would tell
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us so I could like address that.
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I mean, like if I were creating the show like this, I would feel really bad about this being
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the product.
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Like I understand you've got to insert the ads wherever they go.
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Yeah.
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Have a little bit of thought about it.
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Yeah.
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Like back in the day, back in the day of broadcast television, you would plan around commercial
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breaks and it's better.
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You would know way in advance.
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You would have segments that were almost religiously to the second.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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We need to go back to broadcast TV.
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I mean, I don't, how do I, cause I don't want to be too much of one of those guys, but there
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was just a craft to making a show, man.
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Like if you're not interested in making a good show, if you're not even interested in
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asking people who make good show, like, hey, should I cut off things mid word?
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Yeah.
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If you, if part of your process for making a show is understanding and accepting the
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possibility that a passionate rant that Alex is in the middle of could get cut off by a
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commercial, I think you don't care about the product.
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Yeah.
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I think you don't care about the show.
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How could you, how could you sell me on caring about the show?
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Right.
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I don't know what word you're going to finish the sentence with.
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What if Alex was just about to confess to a murder?
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Absolutely.
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Oh, sorry.
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We got to do that.
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Sorry.
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Nothing we can do.
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It's not like this is a, not a live product at all and something that we can edit over
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and over and over again.
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Yeah.
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It shows a lack of care.
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Yeah.
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Just care about making a show.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a personal trainer.
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I'm sure he cares about that.
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I mean, that's fair.
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So Sean asks Alex about Charlie Kirk's murder.
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Right.
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And Alex unprompted.
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I think he, he, he brings up something about Tucker Carlson that I think is very illegal
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It's true.
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What do you think about the whole Charlie situation going on right now with all the
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people and all the question marks surrounding this and a lot of people are not believing
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the narrative.
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Well, when I was up at Tucker's last Monday in Maine for a show, he was going to dinner
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that night about to jump on a jet up to remain over to DC to have dinner with the vice president
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and with Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk.
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And I was talking about all these things with him and he said, well, the way cash Patel
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and them haven't been releasing more videos and more documents and putting their narrative
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out, he's talked to him and Bongino.
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And they're like, well, we don't want to give the case up.
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And he Tucker's been first job was a crime reporter.
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He goes, you guys always put out the narrative of what's there.
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That's not true.
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And he said, that's, what's generating all of this.
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And you know, he literally just had, did you tell me that was that off record?
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God, they tell you so much stuff.
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I better just not say it, but the point is Tucker's dialed in everything.
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I mean, I mean, everything, um, little more than meets the eye with that guy.
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So he's like the secret.
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I mean, this is known now, but he's like the secret us ambassador of the world flies around
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constantly world leaders meet with Trump messages and, oh man, that's super illegal.
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Uh, I mean, I can't think of anything less legal than unofficial ambassadors to the world
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from the president of the United States.
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Right.
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And the sort of leaders that he seems to be sending messages to are like Putin.
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Yeah.
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I mean, listen, Kissinger was evil, but at least he was hired to do the evil job.
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Right.
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You know, he wasn't like suddenly there like, oh, I'm just Kissinger.
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I'm just here causing hell all the way.
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You know, appointed position that is theoretically, uh, like Congress can do something.
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Yeah.
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It's not like we sent Dan Cortez over to negotiate with the Contras.
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At the very least later on, that stuff will be written down somewhere or there will be
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a recording of something, you know, something not just like, oh, Tucker was there.
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That's no good.
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I don't want that for history.
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No.
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And it also like, uh, I don't know the extent to which I believe this, but if you're someone
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like Alex, who's distrustful of power.
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Yes.
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I mean, I have a guy who has a weird media show.
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Right.
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Um, and he also is the ambassador to the world.
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Right.
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A lot of power.
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Carrying secret messages to world leaders on behalf of the president of the United States.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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I would, uh, I'd be careful.
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You know, if you, if you were carrying secret messages from the president, uh, a notoriously
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elderly man who says and talks a lot of shit that he doesn't mean and won't take back or
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will take back at a moment's notice, maybe you think I could change some of the words
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to what I want them to be.
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Well, sure.
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That is a possibility, but I think more realistically, if you're this guy, if you're Tucker and,
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uh, like Alex is doing an interview on his trainers podcast where he reveals that you
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tell him a bunch of stuff that maybe he can't repeat publicly.
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Maybe you stopped telling him stuff.
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Yeah.
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And on the other hand, there would, there is a little bit of a waggle.
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There's a little bit of a Dick waggle to just be like, yeah, go on your trainer's podcast
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and say all kinds of national secrets.
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No one will believe you.
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I got attacked by a demon.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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Believe whatever you want.
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You can't trust me.
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So all of this just has a little bit of that feel of like Alex has been seduced by the
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cool kid crowd and he doesn't even realize like how much he's unrecognizable from his
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past self.
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Yeah.
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JD Vance is good friends with them.
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When I was up at TP USA last year, three months before Vance was announced, I was back there
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with Vance and Kirk in the green room and they called me in there.
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And I was talking to Vance, been a listener for a long time.
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I was like, Hey, I hear your probably.
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He goes, yeah, I got it.
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And even he didn't even say, don't tell people.
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He just, yeah, I got it.
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It's me.
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I was like, wow, that's the word thing is they just, I'm like, I did that on record
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off record.
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Someone hadn't put out and said, Oh, JD Vance, he's got it.
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But they're all buddies back there drinking ginger ale and high-fiving and watching YouTube
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clips and X clips of people like they're like, fire them.
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I drink beer.
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And, and, and so, and so, I mean, these people are like, like goody two shoes.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like there's the rumor, Oh, uh, Don Jr. is a drug addict.
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But no, I mean, Trump doesn't even like his kids drinking.
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So the point is, is that, is that these are, I mean, Erica Trump is an actress.
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Erica Trump has done thousands of these events.
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So when her husband gets killed, she gets up and executes and does a great job for him
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because that's what you do in those times.
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It's an interesting slip that Alex calls Erica Kirk, Erica Trump twice.
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Yeah.
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I let's not think about it.
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I don't want to think about anything anymore.
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Also, I love the angle that Don Jr. can't possibly be on drugs because his dad doesn't
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want him to.
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Nobody's ever made more sense to me.
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He's 47 years old.
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He's not a fucking teenager.
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Somebody's ancient father doesn't want their middle-aged child drinking.
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So obviously they don't.
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Yeah.
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He can't possibly.
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Of course not.
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I like, I think that there is a weird prism of infantilism that, that Alex works through.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There is an amount of like, if the world works like the way you think it does, it should
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collapse.
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Yet somehow because the world works the way it does, you're allowed to think that the
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world works the way you think it does and it doesn't collapse.
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Wild.
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Yep.
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And I think that he wants Trump to be his dad.
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Yeah.
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And I think he projects the dadliness onto everybody else.
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Like he's my dad too or whatever.
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That's sad and gross.
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But it makes sense.
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I mean, it runs through like Tucker's like dad's home.
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He's going to smack you kind of shit.
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I mean, we can't complain too much.
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Just about, I would say maybe 75 to 80% of all great literature kind of rolls around
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daddy issues.
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So, hey, you know, what are you going to do?
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No, I get it.
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I think that, I think having issues with your parents is totally fine.
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I think that there's better ways to channel it.
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Probably.
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Bring back the Nazi party.
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Write a book.
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Yeah.
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But not one that brings back the Nazi party.
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Don't write Mein Kampf.
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No.
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Yeah.
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So Sean brings up that like, you know, Trump didn't, he didn't seem all that emotional
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about Charlie Kirk getting killed.
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Because he doesn't give a shit.
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Well, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh.
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Alex explained.
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Oh.
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He cried privately.
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Oh, of course.
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Of course.
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Where you can't see it.
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He was devastated.
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Looked like hell.
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You go back up to two.
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He was like, and then Trump gets over things.
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They're like, oh, how are you feeling about Charlie?
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And a week later he's like, well, it's okay.
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Look how great we're rebuilding this over here.
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Yeah.
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Everybody flipped out.
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Well, but Trump, that's what Trump does is he moves on.
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He's, you know, he's not like a liberal.
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Oh God.
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Oh, help me.
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Tallest building in New York, I believe.
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But these people cry behind the scenes.
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And that's just what people do.
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I mean, I have to tell you.
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Well, the implication is, and I've heard this and I want to be very clear.
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People have a right to say this.
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Just like I had a right to say what I wanted about Sandy Hook.
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I just didn't even say the things they said.
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I said it's the First Amendment.
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Okay.
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So what you're getting at and let's just say it is what now five weeks into this, what
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people were telling me two weeks into it, all these Green Berets, Delta Force, sniper
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experts, medics, unless they release the HD and we see a bunch of blood on the ground.
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And I'm sure that's the case.
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And other stuff going on here.
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They're saying Charlie Kirk didn't get killed.
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And that's what all this builds towards.
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I believe he got shot from a higher angle.
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I was the first to get the information from the head of TPUSA because he put out a little
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bit and he called me when I said it sounded crazy that 30 on six didn't go through.
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He said, no, it came down from an angle.
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Went down his vertebrae, bounced back up, shrapnel.
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That's now been said by the doctor and they say they're going to release it at the end
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of the month.
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The autopsy that better happens.
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I'm giving them benefit of the doubt.
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I don't think the doctor's lying and I don't think Charlie Kirk's best buddy's lying and
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is he still all of this?
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But people have a right to say the moon's made of cheese.
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People have a right to say, you know, that didn't happen.
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That's an American right.
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And you brought this up to me.
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You don't believe it.
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There's got to be some other explanations.
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But what you and I, what you said to me two, three weeks ago is what during the breaks
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when I'm talking to these Green Berets, all these guys are like, they're like, man, it
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just, you know, if they don't release that HD or at least, you know, show it because
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because if there's not blood down there and it's just a squib pack, because that's how
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they do it, it stunts is it pops and then pops the back for the movie to make it look
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like it's real.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not saying that happened.
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Alex Jones does it again.
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But here's what's different.
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You're doing it again.
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There are a bunch of people saying this weeks ago, nobody's even attacking them because
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nobody believes anything anymore.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess no one does believe anything anymore.
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How could you when you're listening to that man speak?
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Exactly.
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Right.
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So apparently, I think Sean doesn't believe that Kirk got killed.
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Yeah.
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So he's still alive or somebody else or the government killed him or I think he must still
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be alive.
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Okay.
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But I don't know what the end game is in that.
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Yeah.
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Now I'm interested to know what when does Charlie Kirk coming back like Gandalf the
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White solve a problem for us?
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I mean, he could be the Antichrist.
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I mean, CK.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah.
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Louie.
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Yeah.
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Free associating baby.
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Let's just do it.
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Let's just go.
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I think that this might dovetail with that idea that, you know, like, is it the Kosh
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Patel said, I'll see you in Valhalla.
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Right.
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And like that's the resort in New Zealand or whatever.
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Right.
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Oh, that's right.
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I remember that one.
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Yeah.
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So I think that might dovetail with this, like Charlie retired.
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Right.
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Essentially.
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And they made a martyr out of him.
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Right.
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Or whatever.
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Okay.
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For Trump and the right wing to use.
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Right.
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He doesn't fully explain what the reason for faking the death would be, but that's the
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best I can come up with.
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Okay.
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So the idea is here's our plan.
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All right.
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I'm coming to you.
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Here's my pitch.
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Charlie, we need a murder or we need a martyr.
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A murder, murder, murder.
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We need a martyr to get murdered.
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And but we don't want to kill you for some reason.
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You're too cool.
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We kill so many people according to these people.
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Well, you know so much about us that we want to keep you alive.
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Probably.
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It makes the most sense.
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And we want to give you more incriminating evidence on us.
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Like the fact that you're alive.
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Absolutely.
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And that we've made a big deal out of it.
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Yeah.
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So then, yeah, we'll just fly you to New Zealand.
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I don't...
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This feels like what people really believe whenever you're like, oh, they want to live
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on the farm.
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Like, no, that dog's dead, man.
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Yeah.
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Charlie's power and leverage, like he ceases to have the same power that he had the second
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everyone thinks he's dead.
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Right.
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But he has a very different power.
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A massive power.
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And the only thing he has power over is youth.
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That's the problem.
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If I'm leaving, if I'm a guy who's against loose ends, I'm not, I'm blowing up New Zealand
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before I'm moving him to New Zealand.
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All the shit that Charlie is useful for alive stops once he's believed to be dead.
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Yeah.
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So like the only way that this conspiracy would make sense is if they like told him
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they were going to fake the death and then actually shoot it.
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Right.
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And then that kind of...
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But even then, that would only work if then you're the one telling Shawn Johnson this
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information.
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Like, hey, we didn't actually kill him.
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I don't know, man.
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And Shawn Johnson believes you.
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I don't see a world where there's a reason to do this.
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No.
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Like to fake Charlie's death.
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I don't see who has an advantage there.
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Yeah.
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I could see it being some sort of data as terrorism.
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You know, like a true, this will be inexplicable for all time.
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Like Joker?
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Talking about Joker?
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I don't know if that's inexplicable.
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He's crazy, man.
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I think it's fairly explicable.
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Oh no.
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I think, okay, so I am willing to say that Charlie is probably more useful now than he
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was before.
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Sure.
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Like he is an incredibly potent symbol and martyr that these folks can use.
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They're having a grand time.
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I don't think that justifies killing him and it wouldn't be served by faking killing him.
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Right.
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Well, there's just...
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It doesn't make sense.
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But I mean, if you've got him already on the, we can kill you tip, right?
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Then pick a better time for it.
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I mean, I'm not saying he's not a martyr, but it didn't feel like there was that much
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to change the world with in July or whatever.
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Well, I mean, it was deeply traumatic.
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Sure.
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It was deeply traumatic and some professors lost their jobs and shit, but...
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Well, yeah.
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I get the sense that this is what happens when you talk to a conspiracy theorist's trainer.
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This is the kind of shit that you entertain.
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It's like, oh yeah, they faked Charlie's death.
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Like who...
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You're forcing a conspiracy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's not even...
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Your conspiracy is they're going up to the other side in some way, right?
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So it's not even like they got a congressperson fired, right?
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Or something like that.
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I don't know.
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They didn't get a high value target out of it.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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So Alex, he doesn't want to talk about...
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He doesn't want to say that this is fake or anything.
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So what instead he wants to do is prompt Sean to discuss the anomalies.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, look, Trump got shot.
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I know real stuff when I see it.
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We all know fake stuff when we see it.
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I thought we could tell fake AI.
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Charlie Kirk, blasted.
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But I get why people look at all the weird anomalies because it all points towards that.
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You do a good job laying them out.
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You want to lay them out?
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What?
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As far as what I'm thinking?
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Well, Proviso, you're not saying this.
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You're just recounting what...
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Well, listen, when something like this happens, you have to look at what are the possibilities
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of the actual motive and who did this, right?
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So in my opinion, it's like, okay.
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Option number one, what they're telling us is absolutely correct.
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It was Tyler Robinson.
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He shot him from the roof and everything else is just weird.
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The second option is there was a second gunman and maybe they used Tyler as a decoy and we're
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kind of seeing what looks to be...
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I mean, to me, it looks like they're covering something up and I don't quite know why.
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I don't know why they took the narrative and ran with that so quickly.
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I don't know why Erica Kirk was giving Tyler forgiveness so quickly after the investigation
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was still ongoing.
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Why are you giving forgiveness to somebody that just killed your husband and you don't
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even know if he's the actual guy?
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They haven't finished the investigation.
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So I feel like this is a really good encapsulation of how Alex likes to do business.
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He talks to a person who's willing to say some crazy shit and then if the audience is
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into it and it drives traffic and sales, it slowly becomes the Infowars position while
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Alex pretends to have not endorsed these ideas himself.
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Sean is painfully uninteresting in this interview and this anomaly that he comes up with is
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idiotic.
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Erica was forgiving the guy who killed her husband because that was what she was required
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to do to perform the character of a saintly Christian, which is the brand that she's inherited
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from Charlie.
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Sean is acting like there needs to be a conviction in the courts before you forgive someone,
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which is fucking dumb.
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If this is part of your group of arguments why you think maybe Charlie's death was fake,
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you are grasping at straws.
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And that makes sense.
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You're a conspiracy theorist's trainer.
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Yeah.
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I do like the presentation.
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Alright.
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The way I see it, there's three options.
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Option number one, they're telling the truth.
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Option number two, they're lying.
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Those are all three options.
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Well no, there is a third option.
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Oh, okay.
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That he's going to express, which is just that it's fake.
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Oh.
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The second one is they're covering something up like a second shooter.
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And then the third one is like, it's all fake.
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Right.
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But here's the thing about possibilities, right?
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He doesn't have a reason for these being possibilities.
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Nope.
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These are the three things that I'm thinking.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Here's the three fantasies that I've decided to cover all possible scenarios.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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You haven't explained why it's possible there was a second shooter.
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Erica forgave him.
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See, that's not an explanation for why there's a second shooter.
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Huh?
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What?
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It could be, I mean, Erica, it could be evidence that something happened, but why is second
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shooter a possibility in this situation?
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Well, it's just weird.
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It stinks.
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That, I mean, that's-
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It smells.
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There's too many anomalies.
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That's fine, but that would mean there's more than three possibilities at the very least.
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There's so many possibilities.
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If something stinks, it could be anything.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But I think that, I think that the three possibilities actually do kind of cover everything because
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they're so vague and meaningless.
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Right, right, right, right.
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There's like, they're telling the truth.
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Right.
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The government is-
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Which covers everything.
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Well, that covers one thing.
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Right.
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Then there's like, there's a second shooter and they're covering that, all those kinds
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of, there's a half cover up.
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Right.
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That's one slice.
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Right.
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And then the other slice is it's a full cover up.
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Right.
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We're doing Goldilocks and the three conspiracies.
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But a million stars could be in that night sky.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's the hierarchy of infinities.
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Yeah.
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So there's the third possibility that everything is fake.
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The last option, and there's only one option that answers every single question mark that
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all of these influencers have, that are floating out all of these theories and all these video
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angles and everything.
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There's only one answer that answers all of it.
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And that this is fake.
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This is all staged.
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And that, like you said earlier-
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And now why did you-
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The squib?
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Why did you send people to their houses to harass them?
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What's that?
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Why did you send people to his house to harass his family?
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Why did you pee on their graves?
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Are you falling asleep?
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No, no, no.
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Are you drunk?
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They're not.
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Kirk's not gonna do that, but imagine how.
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Why did you send people to their houses to harass them?
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All you did was ask questions.
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Why did you pee on their grave?
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Why did you make $300 million off that?
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You just made $300 million by saying that.
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Yeah.
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No, but that's how it works.
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Yeah.
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But see how the world's moved on?
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That's totally reasonable.
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And a bunch of the military people are saying what you're saying.
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They're saying, looks real when he gets shot.
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Where's the blood?
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And then all the rest of it.
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And then where's all the footage of him on the roof?
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They got all these cameras.
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Why are we showing only him running?
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And then all the weird anomalies there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What does he go to?
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The point is it's good you're asking those questions.
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It's American you're asking those questions.
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And it's not just okay.
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We're supposed to do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Even if we're wrong, it's okay.
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Dig into this.
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As long as you're not going to hinder the investigation that they're doing on Tyler
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for this case-
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That's your bar?
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Like, right?
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You don't want to hurt the case.
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Like if-
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The thing to know is though, since when can he, like he's supposed to confess three times
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in all this.
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Yeah.
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Why would they put the confession out?
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They always do that.
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Yeah.
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On certain level, yeah.
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If the families of Turning Point workers like Erica Kirk get harassed by people who've
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been incited by Sean's coverage of the shooting, then they should be able to take legal action
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against him.
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He's not just playing around with interesting ideas.
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The interesting ideas he's throwing around require that Erica Kirk be involved in gigantic
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crimes.
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Yeah.
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These aren't just theories.
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They're also accusations.
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Yeah.
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And that's the piece of this that folks like Alex have worked so hard to obscure.
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The implications of their dumb fuck conspiracies, that's why people harass those folks.
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If I say, why did Erica forgive him so fast?
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Mm-hmm.
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Right?
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I am not asking-
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How is she capable of this forgiveness?
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Yeah, exactly.
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It is like, okay, well obviously Erica's in on it.
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Is she paid for it or is she a happy idiot?
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It's that.
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It's like, are you in on it or are you a useful idiot?
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I have now gotten rid of all that one part-
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And it's quite obvious that you're in on it.
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Yeah.
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How dare you say there's three possibilities?
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There's two possibilities, a half cover-up and a whole cover-up.
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This is not a fucking original recipe chicken.
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There's only one explanation that explains everything.
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It's all-
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And think about it on this level.
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I don't know what the end game is here.
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We're faking Charlie's death.
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But just on a really simple level, you have defrauded thousands of people with that memorial
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service that they held.
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The president spoke at the fraud memorial service.
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Yeah, at the very least you should be morally judged for such behavior.
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And I think there's crimes involved in that.
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I would have to assume so.
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It's like they isolate this incident so that this incident can be analyzed and all of these
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theories can be made, but these theories cannot have any effect on the larger world, despite
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the fact that this incident only exists because of its relationship to the larger world.
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Yeah.
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It's removing continuity of reality.
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Right, right, right.
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Where it's like, no, no, no.
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It's okay for Erica to have been in on it.
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It's not.
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No.
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She's like, get on a massive cover up and still be a good guy.
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Yeah.
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And it would stand to reason that the entire Trump administration is also in on it.
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Right.
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And everyone involved in the memorial.
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You would have to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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On another level though, like, yeah, who cares if dipshits are asking stupid questions that
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aren't really questions.
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Sure.
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If they aren't interfering with the investigation, all they're doing is wasting everyone's time.
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That's true.
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There's no law against wasting time.
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No.
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The consumers of this media would be wise to ask themselves, at what point do you think
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do questions demand answers, and at what point are they not really questions?
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The game that Alex and Sean engage in is pretending to be asking questions that demand immediate
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answers, but the answer that satisfies their question and gets them to say, well, that
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explains that, that doesn't exist.
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If the police don't release the confession, then that's suspicious.
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Right.
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If they release the confession, why'd it take so long?
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Because it's suspicious.
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If there's an explanation for the delay, then why does this one word in the confession seem
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weird?
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There's always going to be another question to replace the last one, because these aren't
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sincere questions.
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They're excuses to believe something idiotic while still pretending to be rational and
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making money off it.
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And it's really important, I think, if you're consuming this kind of media, to understand
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that dynamic and reject people who play those games.
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Yeah.
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I've got a new, here's another thing I've got.
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All right.
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Here's my new, here's my new thought.
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Can't restrict free speech.
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Trump has.
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Right?
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Uh, legal, whatever, legally.
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I am going to, uh, tack on to free speech, right?
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If you say it's the first amendment, you have to say the entire first amendment.
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That is now a rule.
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That's a law.
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I'm not going to restrict your free speech.
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You can say first amendment all you want, but if you say first amendment, you have to
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say for the government shall not make a law infringing upon the right for people.
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You have to do the whole thing.
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And then you have to recite pie down to 20 decimal points.
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We're going to amplify this to the point where people who say it's the first amendment aren't
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allowed to talk at all.
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Yeah.
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And then you have to, uh, the periodic table.
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You have to say something about the noble gases.
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Right?
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Are there seven?
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Are there four?
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It's so sad that we both immediately just went to the noble gases.
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The noble gases.
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What are you going to go to?
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Fucking uranium?
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I don't know.
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So Candace Owens has been blaming Israel for Charlie's death.
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Sure.
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Why not?
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Um, and so Sean wants to know what Alex thinks about what Candace has been up to.
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Yeah.
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And Alex doesn't realize what he's asking.
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Oh, what do you think about Candace?
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What do you think about her, her stance on all of this right now?
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Cause she has fucking backed herself into a corner and she's fucking got the claws out.
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She's fighting.
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Well, that's, um, I like Candace Owens.
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You know, we really discovered her.
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I like her too.
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I was one of the, I was like Paul Watson, my host and we're the first ever really ever
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get her on here.
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You know her awards and story?
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The red, uh, what is it?
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Red red pill, black or black pill red.
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Well, she was in a sort of social media for women and then liberals wanted to get control
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of it.
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So they were false flagging her, threatening her like white supremacy and stuff, but it
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was the women in the group doing it.
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So, so that's kind of how she woke up as a liberal cause they were like Jesse Smollett
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and her and the other staging stuff.
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So and my lawyer, Norm Pattis from Sandy hook up in Connecticut where she's from, he actually
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represented her and got her a big settlement where she did go through racist stuff in high
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school stuff.
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So I know all about Candace Owens.
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I think she is a good person.
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I think she means what she says.
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Um, and you think there's any truth to what she's saying?
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Well you've got to give me the latest cause I, all I know is this.
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Um, she came out a few weeks ago and it's like he was shot from the front and it goes
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through the vertebrae and all that.
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And everybody's like, Oh my God, Candace Owens.
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I'm not lessening it.
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I'm like, I broke that like three, three weeks before that.
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I'm not, I'm glad that whatever she says or my pays a lot of attention to it cause that
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was true what she said.
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And then they had tails was the TP USA had had guys says, Oh, you know, he's got my number.
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He calls me up 30 minutes after I do a post on X.
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He's like, Oh, 30 on six.
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And I said, no way at that angle.
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And then so he called me, gave me the full details of what later came out and what he
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said, you know, it's what Candace is saying, you know, actually happened.
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Um, my point is she's going off what they say.
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We haven't gotten a coroner's report yet.
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Does that make sense?
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Cause she's talking to the same people.
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Yeah.
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She thinks this is, was an Israeli hit.
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Correct.
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Oh, is that what you're getting at?
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Yeah.
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Oh, Oh, Ouch.
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Going to have to redo that one.
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Can we take that from the top?
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Just talk about it.
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And I guess day one, everybody said it was Israel.
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So my thing is the Israel thing is something that sucks all the oxygen down the room.
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So I wasn't being coy earlier when I'm like, what is she talking about?
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She said so much stuff.
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She said so much.
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This lady talks so much shit.
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I didn't know the clear question you were asking me.
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Sean, I need you to understand something.
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You're the person who listens to all of us talking shit.
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You're the conspiracy theorists trainer.
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Right.
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We talk shit.
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We don't listen to each other talk shit.
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Why would we talk?
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Why would we listen?
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Mostly just know when something becomes a problem.
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Yeah.
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I'm an annoyance.
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Um, yeah.
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So I like the, I like the, uh, you know, I discovered her, you know, she stole that
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news from me.
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I'm trying to ask you about her saying that the murder was an Israeli hit job.
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You know, I'm great.
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Ba ba ba ba boo boo.
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Have you, uh, have you, have you considered how great I am, uh, in this question about
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somebody else?
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Yeah.
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Pretty great.
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I'm pretty great.
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I'm pretty great.
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What did she do?
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I'm sorry.
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So one of the things that's really great about Alex is that, you know, you have people like
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Candace Owen saying that the murder was an Israel hit job.
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Sure.
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And you know, that's, that's a representation of how Candace is a sincere actor in this
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space who has criticisms about Israel.
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She believes it.
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Now, Alex early in his career learned how to tell antisemites from people who have concerns.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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I bet he did.
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Yup.
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Okay.
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But there's all sorts of groups and organizations like that, but I don't sit there at night jacking
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off when I hate to choose, you know, that stuff just gets really old.
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So well, that's what a lot of these guys that hate them do.
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I mean, they literally look, maybe I have an allergy to it because I've been on there
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30 years plus, and I was on here just a few months and like, I'd have guys come down the
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studio and go, you're talking about the new world order, but you know, it's the Jews and
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here's some pamphlets.
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We want to come on your show.
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And they'd be up there the next week.
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I've been there like a month, 31 years ago.
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They're like, I noticed you didn't call me back.
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I guess you work for the Jews.
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And my friend was like, no, I hadn't read the stuff yet.
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It's like in the back of my car.
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I'm like, yeah.
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Joe's is kind of a Jewish name.
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We'll be watching you boy.
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So my first experience was like, these people are like, just, I was like, well, I, uh, they're
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the worst ambassadors there are because they're the little club that's good and everyone else is
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not pure and all leads, all roads lead to the Jews.
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Smash cut to Alex hanging out with Nick Fuentes.
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Fuentes.
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Shaving a Hitler mustache with Sean Johnson.
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It's Sean Johnson.
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As a bit, as so funny.
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Um, I think that the, what he's describing about this Nazi that he interacted with a month
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into his career is literally exactly the same thing that happened with Nick.
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Yep.
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Alex, uh, was not being hard enough on Jewish people.
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And Nick took to his show and said that Alex was a fat drunk who got a call from Israel
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and he worked for the Jews.
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Yep.
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And then now they're good buddies.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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What an idiot.
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It's just one of those patterns.
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It's just a, it's just like Alex, Joe Rogan's fucking liar and I'll gut him like a pig.
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And now we're best friends.
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Uh, and it's, they're kids on the playground.
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They just need to blow off some steam sometimes.
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Man, these guys.
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I hope Sean Johnson is a really good trainer.
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I mean, look, I don't know how much of it is all organic.
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You know, like I don't, I don't know if Alex got on the, on the shot or whatever.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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He did lose a lot of weight.
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I mean, and like if Sean Johnson is the trainer responsible for that now, he's not bad.
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No, I think, I think that might be where we're, I think this might be our issue, right?
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He succeeded too well at his good job that made him think I could also do Alex's job.
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Right.
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I'm skinny.
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He's skinny now.
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He can do a radio show.
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I can do a radio show.
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Makes sense.
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I think that there's a lot of people who are in like some proximity to Alex that get the
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idea that what he does is super easy because it is right.
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They just don't realize that without the past, like the bullshit of the past, like 20 years,
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no one cares about the easy shit that Alex is doing.
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You're just another streamer.
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Right.
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It is, it is like, it is super easy because I'm me.
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It's impossible for you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's impossible to stand out as conspiracy theorist trainer.
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Right.
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So Alex, he lists off here some suspects that could be behind the assassination of Charlie
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Kirk.
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And I think if you have this wide of a net, you don't really know anything.
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You know, for me, Candace can talk about how she thinks Israel did it.
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And that's the big popular thing to think.
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And I think she really believes that.
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It's kind of like, you know, those ink blots where you kind of see what you want in it.
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And I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that a weird RNC alliance that wanted control
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of the group because it was bigger than the RNC now and bigger than CPAC with Israel,
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you know, didn't use Israeli operatives because they're very competent assassination to do
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it.
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That that's a possibility, pure speculation.
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The DNC knows he got two and a half million people to vote for Trump was the reason he
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won.
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And they're the guys and they're the ones calling for him to die celebrating when he
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died.
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And you got all these other trans Tifa trans Antifa out blasting people every week and
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you know, shooting up.
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I saw him like, I'm like, yeah, DNC RNC Israel Alliance.
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Makes sense.
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And then could it have been.
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I mean, if you got to sit there and start speculating, could the Chai comms do it?
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Now here's the twist.
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You actually don't have to engage in rampant idiotic speculation about every event that
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happens desperately chasing clicks and attention.
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If you really think that it's possible that all these different groups could have been
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involved in an elaborate assassination plot against Charlie, then you have no evidence
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about any of it because you sure as shit haven't ruled out any of these suspects.
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The truth is that Alex has nothing to say, which is why he has to say so much.
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This is so dumb.
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You don't have to do this and it's kind of embarrassing too.
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I mean, it's what it should really prove backwards thinking, right?
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Is how few people, especially nations want to assassinate anybody.
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Right?
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Because if I'm a nation, like say I, I just like a regular ass, say I'm Luxembourg, France,
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right?
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How do I want to get on the map?
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I'm just going to start assassinating people and they'll blame it on Israel.
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Like there's no, why wouldn't you?
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Well, Luxembourg, France works for Israel.
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Right.
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But this is what I'm saying.
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Like if you do some shit now, it will be blamed on Israel by these crazy people.
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It's exactly what Alex was saying earlier.
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No one believes anything anymore.
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Yeah.
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And I think that one of the things that's really shocking too is that like, I don't
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think that Charlie Kirk's assassination was that hard to pull off.
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It looked very straightforward.
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I don't believe that you would need elaborate conspiracy in order to have done that.
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And that reveals a really like a kind of comforting thing and that like, this could be happening
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all the time.
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And the fact that it's not kind of means that most people don't want to kill each other.
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Nobody wants to assassinate anybody.
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Right.
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And I think that that is, I hate to say a silver lining of this event, but it is kind
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of like, well, this would be happening a lot more if the world that Alex lives in was the
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real world.
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Right.
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Oh, and not just that, but every, like the most common part of all major political assassinations
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is very simple and straightforward.
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Any complications, almost every one of them is foiled.
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The moment, even if you've got two guns and you're trying to kill Andrew Jackson, it's
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going to get foiled.
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Right.
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Once you call the Chinese.
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What are you talking about?
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It's done.
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You're done.
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It's over.
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You have a gun.
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You're a guy.
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You walk up close.
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You shoot him.
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That's as good as you're going to do.
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Yeah.
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And like the bottom line, I feel with this, this like kind of interview and this, this
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tone is like Alex is coming up with fun, fanciful things to be like, well, maybe they did it.
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Yeah.
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But he's also saying like, if I were forced to speculate, like you force yourself to speculate,
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you don't have to do any of this.
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If I were forced to spec... if, if somebody were going to ask me in my professional expert
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opinion, if speculating about nonsense and making shit up were the only way that I could
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make money, then I would say that maybe the Chinese or maybe the trans Antifa.
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Gun to my head.
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It could be literally anybody I don't like.
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And for good measure, it might be people I do.
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Yeah, but it might be the kind of people who I do like who I also don't like.
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Right.
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It could be both.
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Rhinos.
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So, um, with an interview comes to an end and, uh, Alex is, is trying to drive home
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this message that Todd Blanche sucks and needs to go.
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Yeah.
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I don't own the AlexShowStore.com so they can't shut that down.
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That's got the best settlements, t-shirts, all of it.
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That's funding the new thing we're doing and so much, you know, very, very exciting things
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happening there.
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And so I just thank people for their support, their word of mouth.
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And thank you so much, Sean, for helping get me back to shape.
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Thank you, brother.
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I appreciate you for coming on and I'll end it with, uh, still no Epstein list.
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So all this chaos we've been talking about, still no Epstein list.
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And you know who's over not releasing it?
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Todd Blanche.
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Oh, that's weird.
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The guy that went and interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell and then put her in a minimum security
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prison, the best of the country.
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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Nice man.
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Yeah.
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And he's Trump's right hand man right now.
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So anyways.
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Yeah.
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That implicates Trump.
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I mean, here's the deal.
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They had that high level whistleblower that was the head of the case the first five years
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that they caught on tape.
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We know Trump's not involved all the way, which we already know, but it doesn't matter
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after the fact he's been convinced for the CIA and Mossad who are both involved to cover
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it up.
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Yeah.
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And, and so, and who is there?
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Todd Blanche.
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Yeah.
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So, and now that he's got that, now that he's over that case, he feels invincible that he
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can then deep six anything else he wants.
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Maybe he has something over Trump's head.
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Never know.
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EPC.
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All right, brother.
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I love you.
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Let's do this again soon.
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People can find me on exit real Alex Jones.
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Find the live feeds there and so much more.
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Thank you, Sean.
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Thank you everybody.
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Bye.
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So we impeach Trump then?
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Like what are we talking about?
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What a fucking absolutely insane way to end and not go like, we're crazy, right?
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Yeah.
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We have accepted all fanciful things and nothing means anything because I'm both like, hey,
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EPC should come out.
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But also I'm like, but I don't care.
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Fucking crazy.
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Well, and I think that this reveals a system that could be threatening the conspiracy community
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a little bit.
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And that is like Alex and his brand of shit.
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It's similar to the way that some of the more mainstream right wing talking heads, radio
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show hosts would work in the past.
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And that is for the friend group.
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We scapegoat someone.
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So like nothing is Trump's fault.
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It's bill Barr's fault.
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Right.
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It is Todd Blanche's fault.
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We find this other person.
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He's the one who the Epstein stuff works.
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Definitely totally mad about that, but it's his fault.
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We do not let the buck stop with Trump.
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Right.
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Whereas with the other side, every single underling, everything they do is Obama's fault.
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Everything is Clinton's fault.
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Clinton actually orchestrated all of these little downstream decisions and everything.
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And I think that some of the more like a newer wave conspiracy folks, they don't buy into
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that same old right wing mentality of protecting where the buck stops.
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Like Sean seems entirely willing to be like, well, that fucking means that Trump is involved
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in this.
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When people like Nick Fuentes isn't willing to just be like, yeah, Trump gets a pass.
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We'll just blame the guy at the DOJ or whatever.
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And I think if they can't get on the same page about that, that's going to be a problem.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think in my, in our lifetime, I can only point to examples of them essentially
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circling the wagons being like, listen, sure, we've yelled about this for a while, but now
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that we know we're not going to get any traction with this, we're just going to pretend it
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didn't happen.
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We're just going to move on.
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Like, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, yeah, sure.
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They caught this guy doing whatever didn't happen.
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We're moving on, you know, because we've already agreed that we're going to let Trump off the
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hook for it.
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So if we've already done that, then let's not like pick it a scab.
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Right?
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Yeah, totally.
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And that's what this ending feels like.
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Exactly.
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It feels like Alex kind of trying to be like, Hey, look, we've already kind of litigated
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this.
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We moved on.
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We don't care.
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He's lost.
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He gets to, he gets to do whatever he wants.
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He can rape kids.
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I don't care.
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He was right.
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He can shoot a guy in the street and we'll be like, you get to be more president.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think that there's, I don't know exactly how it plays out because I think that people
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who are willing to call out the hub of power or whatever, and not be like, well, let's
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blame the scapegoat.
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I think that they have possibly more of a moral indignation behind them.
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Sure.
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And I think that they can sell their argument better to people who aren't already in.
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Yeah.
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And so I feel like that would be ascendant.
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Yeah.
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But then like, who's going to fucking listen to Shawn Johnson?
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I think that's probably the, if we had, let's say a fair marketplace of ideas, I think maybe
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Shawn Johnson's point of view would get more traction overall.
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But since the overwhelming money can put a hand on the scale to like, hey, Trump gets
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to do whatever he wants, it's Blanche.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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But the problem is like the marketplace of ideas, like if it were just like a free and
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open marketplace, like the guy who's like, no, we still need to blame Trump is also the
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guy who's like, I don't know, I think Charlie Kirk's assassination might've been faked.
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Right.
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So like what kind of quality of ideas are we working with?
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I mean, I think here's my problem.
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I agree with you.
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I think that's probably because we're downstream of those guys already.
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You know what I mean?
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Like if we had gone back to a place before where they have poisoned us all in this horrible
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well of bullshit, then maybe we would have Shawn Johnson be like, you know, I have questions
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about regular government.
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Where did Texas go?
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What's a bill?
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What is a bill?
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Can we start with what is a bill?
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Is there a song I could listen to that explains how a bill becomes a law?
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I read this very seriously.
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When you are writing a bill, what words do you use?
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Are they in French?
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Ugh.
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Anyway, I regret this.
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I think that Shawn is boring as shit.
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I think he, I don't know, man.
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These people, like InfoWars is thin.
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I don't even think that he works for InfoWars.
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I think he's just adjacent.
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And like, this is the kind of media talent we've got around.
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It's bad news.
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I watched a couple of Owen's shows and they're terrible and pathetic, right?
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I think there's something interesting going on there.
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There's nothing going on with this guy.
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This is brutal.
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Yeah.
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This is emptiness.
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So I will not return to the Shawn Johnson well.
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I bet his triceps are great though.
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So good.
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I bet they are fucking tight.
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And you know what?
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I would love it if he was my trainer.
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Because I think it would be adversarial.
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And I think that might be able to get a little more.
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That might get you an extra couple of sit ups of being like, I gotta tell you you suck!
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I gotta tell you you suck!
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I gotta tell you you suck!
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Shawn, I'd like to hire you as my trainer.
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Alright.
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But I'll never listen to this type of show ever again.
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But, we'll be back with another episode about some other dumb bullshit.
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Indeed.
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But until then, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:49.380)
Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah woo yeah woo!
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
