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["Wannabe
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Dan and George. Knowledge Fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Ahh!
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Need, need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy and, Andy and.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge Fight.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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Ahh, bleh.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is Alien Earth. It's a new TV show.
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Okay, in the Alien franchise?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it, we watched the first couple episodes. It's fucking great.
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Does it take place on Earth?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I think so.
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Are there aliens there?
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Yes there are!
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Facehuggers?
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But they're from the future.
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Okay.
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But also the future is the 80s.
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Oh.
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Because we're in the Alien universe.
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Okay.
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But also it's the future, but everything's like, beep boop beep boop beep, kind of computers.
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Can the aliens time travel?
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No, not yet.
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Okay.
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But perhaps once they meet the Predator, because I'm pretty sure the Predator's time travel.
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So Alien vs Predator has to be a time travel movie.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Which, but it's already happened.
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Oh that is the point.
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Alien vs Predator has already happened.
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That is a good point. This is dangerous.
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We'd have to time travel to go see that in theaters.
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I think we can do Multiverse.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that's what we'll do.
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What's going on with this show?
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It's really good. It was done by the guy who made Legion and Fargo.
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Both of which were fucking really, really good and really interesting.
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It's a good, like it's hard to make a horror TV show.
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True.
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Because, you know, you're gonna see, you know you're gonna see these people next week.
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But man, that Alien's so fucking scary that even if you know people are gonna be alive,
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when that little thing comes out and just...
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That's the magic of the Giger.
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It's solid. Yeah, that's good stuff.
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That's an interesting path that this person's carved out.
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Because like, Alien seems like a TV show that, like it's a movie that's really good.
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Yeah.
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And people would be mad at a bad TV show.
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Fargo.
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Exactly.
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A movie that's really good.
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That's the only reason.
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It was almost like, there's only one guy that we can reliably choose to make this show
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in a way that won't make everybody go, this fucking sucks.
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And it's the guy who's done that exact same thing multiple times.
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All right.
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It's just a weird skill this guy has.
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I've never seen anybody do it before.
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All right, let's get Jurassic Park TV show.
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Right?
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Let's get some good stuff.
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This guy can finally make, it's like he makes worlds inside,
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it's like a diorama inside somebody else's world.
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It's really interesting.
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Nice.
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Maybe I'll check it out.
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Yeah, I would suggest it.
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Sweet.
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What's your bright spot?
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I've been dipping back into Legend of Zelda, Hyrule Warriors, Age of Calamity.
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All right.
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The sort of Dynasty Warriors Zelda, Breath of the Wild game.
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Yeah, the whole thing.
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Yeah, it's fun.
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It's just a great art style and these characters are fun, it's cute.
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Do you get to play as any of them that you want?
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A lot of them.
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Yeah.
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You get to play as Impa and Zelda and Link and-
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What kind of weapons are we dealing with?
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Who's our long range fighter?
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That would be like Rovali, the bird guy.
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Okay, the bird guy.
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He's got a bow.
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He's got a bow.
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Yeah.
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All right, all right.
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Link's got a sword, he's got a spear.
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I guess you could say that the fish lady...
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I've played so much of these games that I can't remember any of the names of the-
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What's the fish lady's deal?
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So what's the... who are those fish people?
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You know, the fish people.
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I always just think, hey, they got the fish.
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They're fish people.
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They're water folk.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She has like a trident.
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That's fun.
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So that's kind of range.
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Yeah, that's fun.
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Anyway, I played it when it came out and then I stopped and I'm glad that I stopped because
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it's now pretty fun.
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Yeah, those are such great like scratch and itch games.
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Somehow there's just an itch and then that game just hits it right and you're like, oh,
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I'm satisfied.
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I don't know why.
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Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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All right.
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We're going to be talking about August 10th, 2025.
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Okay.
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11th, the 11th of August.
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That's the day that Trump unleashed the federal troops upon the DC.
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Right.
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Everything's going great.
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Yeah, and so we're going to check in and see how Alex is dealing with the anticipation
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of that and as that unfolds, we'll see how Mr. Police State responds.
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Yeah, I mean, becoming everything that one has said they were against piece by piece
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over time is kind of fascinating to watch.
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Yes, and in this episode in particular, it's such great timing because one of the funniest
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things I've ever seen happens and it revitalized me in a way that I can't even describe.
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So I'm excited to get to that.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Drew, you're an amazing person, even though you refuse to listen to the best
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podcast.
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Signed, Scuttle.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Or that could be Scuddy.
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Next, Lehman.
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Project Butter Pecan was created by the Ice Cream Elites to keep people like us creamy
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and compliant.
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We must resist.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And Sort Me Out Geezer to Cobb Love Dumpling and Gray Gray.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we had a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Reese Rehan and Larski.
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There's a war on for your mind and you've just been drafted into the info war.
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You're the truest of titty babies, but not for long.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Just to let everybody know, we've been doing shout outs for a long time.
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We're very grateful to everybody.
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I'm looking at it and we've been ahead for, or, you know, we've been behind a month for
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a long time and we're catching up.
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So I was just thinking, if you want to send a joke shout out or something like that, you
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don't have to donate, but it would just be weird to go without shout out.
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If anybody wants a shout out, send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com.
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Yeah, it's been like 800 episodes since we've done those.
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It'd be interesting too, but yeah, send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com.
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Sure.
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Um, and, uh, you try and trip me up with a, with a little tongue twister.
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Yeah.
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See what you...
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We're trying to do it out.
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Send some Gaelic words in.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Siobhan's get your, get your engines going.
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And so Jordan can see me panic.
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So, uh, uh, we have a little jump from our last episode to here.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, you know, last we left off, Alex was, you know, he had, uh, his struggle with
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the Trump, uh, response to the Epstein debacle.
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Yep.
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He was letting, uh, Nazi take the high ground.
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Sure.
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Quite a bit.
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It was quite an embarrassing showing and he was, he was a bit turned off on Trump a little bit.
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Sure.
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There was a, there was a fair amount of, I'm going to call it like I see it.
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Sure.
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Maybe he's getting a 90 out of a hundred.
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I'm going to call it like I see it.
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This man's waffling.
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Uh huh.
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He's a waffler.
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So waffles.
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So where do you think he is now on a, on a one to a hundred?
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I'm going to go with a 99.8.
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You're in the right direction.
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Okay.
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I have seen a lot of really good actions against the globalists in the last week by Trump.
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Six months ago, I would give him a 98.
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A month ago, I would give him about a 95.
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He's already dialed back up to about a 97.
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Ooh, I'm so close.
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And anybody that isn't looking at all the positive stuff Trump's doing and is just
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bitching and whining and complaining is not paying attention.
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Doesn't mean we don't get on Trump's ass and people in this administration
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when they go the wrong direction.
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No, we, we put him in there.
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He works for us.
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They got national news constantly cherry picking.
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When I criticize this or that Jones is deserted.
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Trump Jones is abandoned ship.
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Bull crap, bull crap, bull crap.
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There is no difference between a 98 and a 95.
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I mean, I can't even understand why you would bother.
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I don't know if there was that much media attention to the idea that Alex turned on Trump.
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To the extent that anyone cared, it was really just people laughing at the situation that
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he found himself in.
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The entire time that Trump has been a relevant national level politician has been post pizza
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gate and his political movement runs on the satanic panic that arose out of that.
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Watching the Trump propaganda scramble to figure out if they could afford to keep their
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connection with their power avatar has been funny.
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And that's what any media outlet would have been covering.
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Look at these guys squirm.
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I mean, it's hard not to look at it like that.
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And here's the God's honest truth.
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The only story here is that Alex didn't abandon Trump.
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The fact is it's so revealing to what's actually important to him and it's not fighting corruption.
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That is clear.
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His number one brand is invalidated.
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This is hard to articulate precisely, but there's a certain appeal that info wars has
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that's built on not making excuses for politicians.
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It's why Alex repeats, I'm not a lesser of two evils guy all the time, because this shows
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political identity is fundamentally opposed to that kind of thinking.
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It's baked into the idea of like transcending the left right paradigm.
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And it's central to why Alex backed Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 instead of choosing a viable
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Republican candidate.
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If you believe that you're fighting the devil and all your enemies have demons inside them,
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then you can't break out pros and cons lists to determine your allegiances.
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If Trump's working with and aiding the devil on this giant thing and demanding you not
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question it, then it doesn't matter how many godly acts he might be doing on the side.
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He's working with the devil and that's what you're asking the audience to accept.
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This is not sustainable in the long term, but it's not surprising that this is where
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Alex is.
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No, no, it's funny.
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It's very funny because even the tone that he's using, I remember this tone very well.
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I remember this tone very well because and I think a lot of people will too.
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Anybody who's still talking about Bernie is just getting in the way of Hillary winning
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this election, you know?
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And it's like, man, for the longest time, that was the bonus of being somebody who wants
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to get away from the political system but is on the far right.
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You're not going to hear that.
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You can just scream like a lunatic and people will eventually do what you say.
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But now finally, you guys have to deal with Hillary.
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That's what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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Trump is your Hillary.
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Alex has turned himself into a blue no matter who kind of guy.
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100%.
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But he wants to still think that he's...
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I'm on the vanguard.
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I'm a big strong boy, but blue no matter who.
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But the blue is Trump.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Hillary and Trump are the same person now.
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Trump no matter what.
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Oh my God.
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So the Russian folks, they got a summit coming up with Trump.
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I think it's going to go great.
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Yeah.
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In Alaska, they're going to meet up and maybe there'll be some false flags.
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And the Russian foreign ministry, Lavrov, has come out and said there will be titanic
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efforts to prevent peace with Ukraine.
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And they go into what those efforts will be false flag attacks.
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And again, you heard that from me first.
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I don't follow the Russian talking points.
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They just always days or weeks after I say something, say the exact same thing
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because they see the same thing going on.
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And quite frankly, listen to me.
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But they're not the only government that does.
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That's just a fact.
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That's the level we're at by the grace of God.
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So this is, I think, is a good illustration of what Alex can't let go of.
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Appearing close to Trump and seeming like he's connected to that power is just one
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expression of Alex's addiction to playing this role of the most important person in
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the world.
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Multiple governments take their cues from him.
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So if you really think about it, Alex Jones dictates foreign policy.
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His rants, they move armies.
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They change history.
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Absolutely.
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There's a grandiosity to this position that he's put himself in for the show.
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And to reel it in at all would reveal, it would threaten to reveal how thin it is and
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how fake it all is.
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Sergei Lavrov didn't say what Alex is claiming in that clip.
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This was actually something that a Russian investment envoy named Kirill Demetriev posted
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on Telegram.
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He didn't say that false flags were going to be done to stop the Trump-Putin summit,
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but that there was disinformation being pushed to try to derail it.
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Sure.
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Demetriev is the head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, which is a $10 billion sovereign
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wealth entity created by the Russian government.
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Great.
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More concerning for Alex is that he used to work for Goldman Sachs and was a World Economic
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Forum Young Global Leader.
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Sure.
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It's probably best to just pretend Lavrov said false flags are coming.
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Let's not unpack this too much.
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Let's move on from that.
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Yeah.
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Lavrov appeared at a thing with Alex remotely.
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Here's what I like about an Alaskan peace conference or whatever.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right?
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If something happens, what?
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In Alaska?
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That's crazy.
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But why would anything happen?
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Because it's Alaska.
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That would be crazy.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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All bets are off.
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It's genius.
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It's the best place.
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It's the most obvious place to do something movie-like crazy.
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And that's why no one would ever do it.
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If one of them didn't make it out, you would be like, well, the wild's got them.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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It would be the wild.
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The cold, untamed frontier.
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If what it needs to be is identical to John Cena and Idris Elba in that World Leaders
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movie, except it's Trump and Putin trying to survive in the Alaskan wilderness, I think
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they would crush it.
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The only way to know is to give them a shot.
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Yeah.
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I think they have slightly less charisma than Cena and Elba.
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Maybe a little bit.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is thrilled about this summit.
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Of course.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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Thrilled about some other things that are going on.
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Probably racist-based.
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Yeah.
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I think you might be able to make an argument.
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There's talk of Trump sending the military in to Mexico to take out all the cartels.
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Can they do that?
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I feel like they can't do that for a lot of reasons.
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For so many reasons.
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I will say that the Mexican president is opposed.
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Shouldn't that have something to do with why they can't do that?
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Yeah.
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Because it would be a military invasion.
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It would be invading a country.
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Yeah.
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Alex is into this.
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Of course.
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Oh, Mexico says that the United States has announced that it's going to invade it.
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No.
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NATO has invaded Russia.
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Mexico and China have invaded the United States.
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What?
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When Trump stood up with these tariffs deals, he wasn't attacking people.
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He was retaliating to the attack.
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Mexico is run by the narco terrorist states.
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Venezuela, other countries.
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It's run by the cartels on record.
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And Trump's given them seven months to stop the activities and shut down the cartels.
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And they haven't.
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So Trump is saying, I'm getting ready to have the US military, as he did four or five months
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ago, designated them terrorists, take action against the cartels that are more
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well equipped than even the Mexican military.
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So translation, Trump has declared war on the cartels.
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Warned them all.
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And now they haven't taken action.
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And so now Trump is getting ready to go after them.
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And I'm not for invading Iraq or Syria or Russia.
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And I've been against all these past wars because it was globalist run.
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Globalist started and not our interest.
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I 100 percent support President Trump.
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If he decides to engage in military strikes against drug cartels inside Mexico, this is
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the anti war guy there is.
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OK, now I think I understand why people would think he's the anti war guy.
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But you got to understand he's also from Texas.
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And that means he thinks most of Mexico should be theirs.
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True.
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Yeah, true.
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Like they just took it one time.
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Why can't they take it again?
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It's kind of their belief system.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And as as I was going through this, you know, listening to him, I started to realize that
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like his his war philosophy is just like, no, no, too far away.
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Yeah, no, 100 percent, 100 percent.
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He's far away for now.
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He's four wars that are close.
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Absolutely.
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Because I can I can then I can have that now I can have that.
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Right.
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If we we can't have Iraq, Iraq isn't going to become the 51st state.
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How are we going to get a highway there?
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Well, he considers himself like Confederate royalty and his family founded Texas.
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And they did that by stealing, stealing Texas.
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I mean, one could say they took a giant chunk of land from people who were on it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think he likes that.
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Yeah.
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And that's kind of why he's down with Russia invading Ukraine.
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Yeah.
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It's close.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You get more stuff.
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It makes sense.
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Yeah.
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I want your stuff is a reason to fight a war.
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So this guy is anti war.
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Yeah.
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Super anti war.
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But he's a big into B and E's.
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Yeah.
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For a country.
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Yeah.
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Country B and E's.
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And this one would be good, man.
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Sure.
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This one would be so good.
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Sure.
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I don't like war, but we have millions of dead from fentanyl.
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We have millions dead from the crime waves and all the stuff of the past decades.
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We have a physical invasion.
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We have Mexico helping continue the invasion.
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We are under attack.
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We didn't start it.
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The Marines in the Army have had to go into Mexico in World War One when Mexico side with
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the Germans and attacked us.
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And before that, and if the Marines need to go into Mexico City, so be it.
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This is almost indistinguishable from the people trying to defend Bush's wars after 9-11.
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Yeah.
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Alex says, consider the people who have died of fentanyl.
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Whereas back in the day, they were concerned about the Taliban growing poppy and how they
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were responsible for all the heroin deaths.
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It's drugs.
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It's drugs.
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It's just us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alex says that there's a physical invasion, but back in the day, they had the physical
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attack of 9-11 to terrify people with.
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Absolutely.
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People says, Alex says that Mexico's enabling the invasion to continue.
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Whereas back in the day, he said Saddam is facilitating terrorism around the world.
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He sure did.
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Alex is saying that we didn't start this and the Marines, they've had to go into Mexico
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before and back in the day, they could point to the first desert storm as a piece of history
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that normalizes this march to war.
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There you go.
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For someone who's built their career on the kind of ground that Alex has, this is pathetic.
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This is so wrong for him to...
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People have got to feel betrayed, right?
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I mean, his audience has to feel like, what the fuck?
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It's hard not to imagine that this will never...
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Okay, do you think Texas should own everything south of Texas?
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I think that's a genuine question now.
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Well, I mean, sure.
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Once you make Mexico safe...
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Yeah, you're gonna have to take...
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Gotta keep going.
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You're gonna have to take Nicaragua.
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Sure.
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You're gonna have to take Guatemala.
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Yep.
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You definitely need the Panama Canal, so you might as well take everything in between that and there.
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And then once you're at the Panama Canal...
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Go for Brazil.
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Absolutely.
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Brazil's got so much things.
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It's big.
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Yeah.
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And by that point, it's close.
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And frankly, we'll all be Mexican then.
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I feel like you can't have lived through the Iraq War period and had the kind of mentality
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that Alex has seemed to have and put forth this kind of an argument.
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I have been sold a war the same way for my entire life, and it's probably never gonna stop.
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And Alex has built his career on being the opposite of the people who are selling you
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that war, and now he's trying to create support for invading Mexico.
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Listen, I'm a hardliner except for the situations where I want things the way that I want them.
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Yeah.
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It's just fucking strange, because he seems to actually want war with Mexico.
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Great.
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So I 100% support a measured strategic rollout.
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And look, the cartels may do terror attacks.
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They may kill Republican leaders.
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That's what they do.
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Good.
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Let's get an out in the open fight here.
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That way it's not kids dying of fentanyl overdoses and stuff.
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We'll send in the men and we'll fight your men and we'll see who wins.
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This makes sense.
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I'm betting on the United States of America.
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And this will also send a message to the rest of the world that America's back.
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Yeah, man, it'll send a message that will invade our neighbors.
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Alright.
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Now, if I understand correctly, warfare has not evolved ever.
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We'll send our men, you send your men, we fight, the end.
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Yep.
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That has that...
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Okay.
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As a system now, historically, as a system, has that worked out for us?
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You know, it's got us where we are.
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So no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I can't see this as anything other than a little saber-rattling.
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Okay.
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So let's play this out.
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Let's war games this from a very literal standpoint.
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Sure.
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Right.
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So we invade Mexico.
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What does that even look like?
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Do we have cars?
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Do we have tanks?
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Are there planes?
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Are people getting bussed over the border?
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What are we talking about?
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We invade Mexico.
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Well, Alex has said that the cartels have better technology than the Mexican
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uh, uh, army.
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Okay.
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So it would be a greater challenge than just taking over Mexico.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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So that's number one.
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So you would need tanks, I would assume.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So we've got that.
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He did say measured.
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But there's so much distance you would have to drive a fucking tank.
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It's a, it's a tank.
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You'd have to drive it forever.
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That's a lot of gas.
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This is an expensive war before we've even gotten there.
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Right.
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And that's why you send a man on foot.
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I mean, is that what he really was?
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He's like, let's just do the Alamo, man.
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We'll get a bunch of guys.
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I've got guns.
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Are you asking if Alex wants to do the Alamo?
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I think Alex wants to do the Alamo.
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That's all he's ever wanted to do.
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I think you might be right.
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So, um, I, I just think that this is a crazy position for Alex to have.
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Like we should, fuck it, man.
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They're going to kill Republican leaders.
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Good.
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I don't know if this, maybe this exists for everybody.
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Maybe we're all like, listen, this I I'm against this, but fuck that guy.
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That guy's a piece of shit.
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Let's go get him.
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He just hates president shine bomb.
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Is that what we are?
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I don't know.
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So I thought this was strange and, uh, it only got worse as Alex began to discuss the
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idea of Trump, uh, taking over DC.
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Okay.
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And will it be nasty?
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Will it be horrible?
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Will it be disgusting?
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Yeah, it'll be better than surrender and millions of our people dying quietly and the
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illegal aliens running over people and the drunk drivers and the carjackings and my reporter
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getting killed and all the home break-ins and all the rest of it.
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So these criminals, just like the thugs all over DC carjackings, 10 times a day murders,
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everybody getting robbed home invasions.
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And Trump's like, I'm putting feds on the streets and we're going to federally charge
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people.
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I mean, look, you've got to do something.
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The communist, the globalist, he funded the police.
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They want to make us a failed state, just like Mexico.
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Trump is doing what he has to do.
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And on this, I 100% supporting.
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So that's a fundamental betrayal of everything Alex is supposed to stand for.
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Literally everything, every single one.
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Trump is attempting to whip up support for his idea of federalizing the police in Washington,
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DC.
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And the only justifiable way to argue in favor of this is technicalities involving the home
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rule act of 1973.
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DC isn't a city and it's not a state.
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So it doesn't fit the same mold as other municipalities in terms of offering its residents full self-government.
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They have a mayor who acts similar to a state's governor and their council is their legislature.
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But because the center of the government is there, the federal folks have an outsized
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influence.
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Congress has to sign off on all the bills that the council passes and the president
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retains a lot of powers that would normally go to a governor like taking over the police
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in the case of an emergency.
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Section 740 of the home rule act allows the president to take over the municipal police
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department if there's an emergency, but also they're only supposed to be able to do that
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for 48 hours.
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By that point, the president is required to justify the use of force to Congress unless
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Congress is adjourned when they do it, in which case they have 30 days.
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Sure.
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It may surprise you to learn that Trump invoked this while Congress was adjourned.
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Huh?
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How about that?
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So in the real world, crime is down significantly in DC.
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So it doesn't seem like there would be a good argument to say that this was an emergency
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that required this kind of action.
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Sure.
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But that didn't stop the Trump administration from pretending that everything was out of
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control.
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On August 11th, after Trump officially took over the MPD, the White House published a
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statement titled, quote, fact, yes, DC crime is out of control.
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Okay.
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It begins, quote, Washington DC should be a symbol of pride and patriotism for the American
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people and a safe location for tourists, residents, and public servants.
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Unfortunately, while fake news, journalists, and politicians go out of their way to claim
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otherwise, the reality is that our nation's capital is anything but safe.
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That tone is not what I love to see.
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Sure.
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So the first thing they cite in this statement is a study from the Rochester Institute of
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Technology, which they accurately claim shows DC having a murder rate of 27.3 people per
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100,000 residents.
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Uh-huh.
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In the very next sentence, they use this study again to claim that DC has the, quote, fourth
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highest homicide rate in the country.
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Sure.
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This is based on that same study in that, and it was correct based on that, that DC
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is the fourth highest among the municipalities that that paper looked at.
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But that title, the title of that study is, quote, 2024 homicide statistics for 24 US
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cities.
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Their data only included 24 cities, which were selected because they were the same cities
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that this professor, Irshad Ulfheimer, used when they did the same analysis in 2019 and
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2020.
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Sure.
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This paper isn't about homicide rates full stop.
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It's really about homicide rates in Rochester, New York, and how they compare to trends and
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averages in other US cities.
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The researchers chose 23 other places in the country, and that just became their data set.
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It doesn't include some cities with notable homicide rates like Baltimore, Birmingham,
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Cleveland, and Jackson, Mississippi.
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The Trump administration is using this paper to make the claim that can't be supported
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by the source.
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And by the end of the statement that they put out, their citation for carjacking statistics
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is a link to a tweet.
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Like this is very clearly trying to build the argument for why there's an emergency
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as opposed to showing an emergency and then responding to it.
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Right.
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Everybody accidentally got it backwards.
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What you need is an exact number for when you can do it.
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And then everything else is when you can't do it.
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So like what's the number?
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Like is it a thousand per 100,000 and then you get to do that?
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Okay.
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But you got to have a number.
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You can't just be like 27 is enough.
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What?
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When?
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Is 40 too many?
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Is 10 enough?
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Like what's the number?
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You got to work backwards.
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Well, but yeah, 27.3 is an interesting number and there's a lot of discussion you could
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have about it.
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Sure.
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But saying that it's the fourth highest city in the country is just a lie.
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Sure.
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It's not true based on the context of the source that it's using.
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This is using a lie to push a narrative.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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So who cares what the 27 is?
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Yeah.
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No, they shouldn't be able to do it.
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Yeah.
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And if there's one thing that Alex's career has centered on, it's the idea that a tyrannical
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leader will exploit and fabricate crises in order to expand their power.
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Whether he did 9-11 or not, Bush used the public's fear around the attack to pass the
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Patriot Act and go to war.
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And Alex sold himself as being important because he was the voice who could interrupt the globalist
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plot.
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Their evil plans to seize power rely on building that fear up because the public's fear is
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what drives the public to demand and accept actions that the tyrants couldn't get away
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with in other circumstances.
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It's all part of the Hegelian dialectic, the problem-reaction-solution model of social
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control.
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The globalists tell us there's a problem, and we react by demanding that the government
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take care of it.
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They respond by offering a ready-made solution, which was the reason that they got us all
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scared about that problem to begin with.
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A perfect example of this from Alex's career is the body scanners being put in airports.
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He said that on numerous occasions that they wanted to install these all over the place,
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and the contractors stood to make a ton of money from that overhaul, but the public wouldn't
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have gone for it.
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So instead of arguing that the scanners were a good idea, the globalists false-flagged
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a flight with the underwear bomber, and just like that, people were demanding that the
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government protect them from that threat, even if it meant an invasion of our privacy.
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Hey, whatcha gonna do?
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If you've listened to Alex's show and internalized the point that he's making, there's no way
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to interpret Trump's actions around DC as anything other than a tyrant creating a pretext
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to seize control.
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Absolutely.
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It's like, it's cookie cutter.
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There's no way to describe his own behavior earlier as anything but that.
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Right.
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Like, oh, fentanyl, let's take Mexico.
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It's very, yeah.
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But now it's like so laid bare.
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What are we doing?
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Right.
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He made the city a fortress.
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Alex is saying feds on the streets.
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Yep.
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That's something that he's saying.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not even the Arkansas Department of Transportation.
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No.
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We have gone up several levels of scary at this point.
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And it's fine.
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Yeah, well.
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And here's the point.
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Yeah.
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In the past, Alex has existed as a figure on the outside of the problem-reaction-solution
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dynamic, pretending to just observe the demonic plots of his enemies as they unfold and warning
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people.
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But now he's part of the dialectic.
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He's trying very hard to get his audience to be a part of the reaction that justifies
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Trump's solution.
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He can't possibly be the figure that he's pretended to be all these years and not understand
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that that's what he's doing.
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So he was either faking that shit all along or he's now knowingly trying to calm the audience.
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Yeah.
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And that's sad.
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Well, according to him, he's had talks with the White House where they say, what do you
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want?
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So maybe he's gotten what he wants.
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And he's had talks with God.
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Well, there's definitely that.
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So...
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Absolutely.
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It's just a mess, man.
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They gotta...
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Okay.
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Now, I understand it's scary and stuff, that he's taking over the DC police and there are
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feds everywhere.
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I understand that's terrifying from a metaphorical standpoint.
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But what is he doing with him?
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You gotta arrest a congressman, right?
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You gotta use the police to have a fake investigation and then arrest somebody powerful and terrify
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the rest of them into submission, right?
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Otherwise, you're just kinda general vibe scary.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, we're pushing the boundary a bit now.
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Sure.
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Yeah, man.
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And you're saying you gotta push the boundary even.
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You just gotta keep going.
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Nobody's kicking doors down, is what I'm saying.
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We're not yet quartering soldiers, which is nice.
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That's a great amendment, and I think it's gonna hold up for quite some time.
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But it's scary.
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But you gotta do something with it to really give that punch.
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Well, actually, a little bit later in this episode, and I'm making this up, so don't
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take this seriously.
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But Alex does talk about how all you people probably wanted to run a bed and breakfast.
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Right?
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Quartering soldiers ain't so bad.
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It could be worse.
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You've got enough to...
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It's not like in the 1700s, man.
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Don't you support the troops?
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You've got a refrigerator.
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That's better than they did.
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You can quarter a troop.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is in favor of Trump federalizing DC.
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Why not?
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And that's crazy.
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Sure.
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He's also seeming to be very enthusiastic about war with Mexico.
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Right.
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Which is just nuts.
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We're not starting a war with the Mexican drug cartels that run that country.
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They started it.
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We're just recognizing that it's going on.
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And once America finds its instincts again and finds its genetic code, and I don't mean
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that like an American eagle had about white people.
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I mean, it's code what it is to not sit there and bend over and take it up the ass all day
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by the whole world.
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Sure.
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This will turn around very quickly.
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So go ahead.
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Mexican cartels attack a US military base.
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Go ahead.
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Kill some Marines.
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Kill some army.
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Watch what happens.
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What?
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You're gonna get your asses blown to hell.
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So you want to fight?
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You better believe you're about to get one because Trump is very focused and he looks
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at all the data he's got of what's killing this country.
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And one of the biggest thing is that narco terrorist state to the south of us with a
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bunch of arrogant drug cartels that have taken control of the government and bullied
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almost every bit of it.
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And let me tell you something, when they run up against 21st century high tech military,
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it's bye bye.
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They're not guys with a bag of rice and AK 47 and the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
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They are in compounds, running towns and cities out in the open.
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They will be vaporized.
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I understand their threat, their posture, what they've got, what they have.
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They are a pushover for the US military other than if they decide to resort to terror attacks
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and targeting US law enforcement leaders, which, which, Hey, eggs got to get broken here.
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What are we doing?
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You want to come up here and kill some federal agents and some judges and talk show hosts?
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I know you got to hit on me.
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Well, that's what grows the tree of Liberty, bitch.
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What?
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So if you, if you think all Americans have had their balls cut off and if you think there's
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no Americans left, you're about to find out.
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I predict war with Mexico.
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This is insane.
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Who the fuck is the you in this scenario?
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Do you know what I mean?
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If you think that you're like, who is you, who is clamoring for war with Mexico?
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Who in Mexico is like, it's time for us to take down the US the cartel.
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What are they a full on like conquering military?
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Do we have a colonialist force of court cartels?
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Yeah.
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I think he's thinking of like the Salamancas or something.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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We're in Breaking Bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I here's the only thing I have to say about this.
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Yes.
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Completely insane.
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Yeah.
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But also I do like the that's how you water the tree of Liberty, bitch.
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That's how you want to the tree of Liberty, bitch.
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And the reason I like the way Alex is using that is constantly that tree of Liberty needs
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to be watered is a threat.
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Right.
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Alex is talking about his own blood.
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He's like, come kill me.
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Cartels.
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I'll Liberty.
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I'll wash that tree.
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Yeah.
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You rarely hear that in that tone.
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And I admire it slightly.
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Like, okay.
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I understand he has this concept of war because we've lived through wars that happen elsewhere.
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All of our wars have happened elsewhere because it's really, really hard to cross an ocean
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to fight.
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It's really far.
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Right.
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But to have a war that could happen, can you imagine if Mexico just like put a siege on
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Phoenix and all those old people just got too hot and died?
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Like that would end the war immediately.
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We'd be like, ah, fuck it.
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We'll just keep the border.
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The Rio Grande actually makes sense.
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You know?
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Fuck it.
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Yeah.
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That's even going to Arizona.
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Let's keep it in Texas.
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Like El Paso is right there.
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It's literally right there.
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We share it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's just.
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We're not doing East El Paso, West El Paso.
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This is not Germany.
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Despite, despite a sincere desire for that.
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Yeah.
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Apparently.
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On Alex's part.
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Oh my God.
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So Alex predicts that Trump will be able to beat the cartels in a week.
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Just like, you know, the Epstein files came out day one and you know, Ukraine's done.
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That's over now.
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It would take a week to get there.
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Yeah.
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Those tanks.
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They roll slow.
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Forever.
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So he starts talking a bit about Russia and Ukraine.
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Sure.
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Trump's going to solve all those problems.
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I bet he is.
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It is Alaska summit.
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Because he and Putin, they're the ones who have real power here.
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Zelensky is just going to go along with whatever deal these two work out.
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Feel like he's kind of been clear on not doing that.
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Yeah.
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But Alex thinks it's all going to work out.
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All right.
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And then he talks a little bit about history.
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Okay.
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Russia has said the United States can have Ukraine, which produced 40% of the cold war weapons.
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It's their main industrial center.
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Because we're on the border with Europe.
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Russia has destroyed their own infrastructure.
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Russia with the Ukrainians.
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That's the same.
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It's like cousins.
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It's like a German shepherd versus an Alsatian.
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Just a different variety of German shepherd.
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I mean, it's literally where Russia started a thousand years ago.
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We're all a different variety of the same.
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You understand that, right?
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Or Russia or Ukraine or Georgia.
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They're all called Slavs because this one Orthodox priest that came in there and evangelized
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people.
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Slav the Wise.
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He came from Ukraine.
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He came from Kiev.
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And so again, that's why Putin, when he talked to Tucker a few years ago, just harped for
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like an hour on history saying, do you understand this?
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I mean, do you know this?
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Slav the Wise was not a Orthodox evangelist.
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He was the Grand Prince of Kiev and became the Prince of Novgorod and Rostov.
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Sure.
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The word Slavic doesn't come from his name and that collective noun predates his birth
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by hundreds of years.
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Oh yeah?
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I do admit they sound similar though.
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So I can see how Alex convinced himself of this.
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But that mentality that he's expressing there with like Russia, they ruined their own infrastructure
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by attacking Ukraine.
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That's why we need to attack Mexico.
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It's the same mentality that you're talking about.
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He thinks Ukraine is rightfully part of Russia.
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It's just there.
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And he thinks that Mexico is rightly part of the United States or Texas.
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Man, I can't begin to describe what would happen to his brain if he was like, wait,
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but they're all just different versions of dog.
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So they're all one.
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So like people are all just different versions of people, man.
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Maybe we're not being nice to Mexico.
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Dog is God backwards, man.
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That's also pretty serious.
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I got to call Rogan.
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You're right.
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We got to take Ukraine down.
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So there's some good news with Trump.
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Yeah.
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He made a big deal recently.
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Yeah.
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Big money deal.
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To do what?
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Selling the EU energy.
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And he's taking everything away from Russia.
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He's taking everything away from the EU.
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These deals screw them even worse.
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I mean, when it comes to hardcore business, Trump is dominating for you.
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But people don't understand geopolitics.
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They don't even see any of this.
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Trump just got a deal since NATO blew up their Nord Stream pipeline to the Russians.
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Okay, now you got to buy all your gas from us at a premium.
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$600 billion two weeks ago.
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So believe me, Trump isn't sitting there giving Russia a back massage.
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So this $600 billion deal is between the EU and the United States.
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And it wasn't a situation where the Nord Stream was blown up so the EU had to come to us for gas.
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Sure.
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Basically what happened here is that Trump threatened way too high of tariffs on EU
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countries and things got a little bit messy.
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Following through with his threats would severely impact the US economy,
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but giving up on them would hurt his ego.
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So the EU struck a deal where they would avoid ridiculously high tariffs and they
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would pledge to spend a bunch of money in the future on US energy.
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Right.
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There's no commitment and no enforcement mechanism for this pledge.
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I know that works.
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Most experts say it would be literally impossible to follow through on.
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Yeah.
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One basic issue is supply.
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The United States couldn't export enough energy to reach the numbers in this agreement.
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Politico quoted a gas expert as saying that the arrangement is,
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quote, completely unrealistic.
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The numbers are just beyond wild.
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She also said it was, quote, never going to happen.
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And on the other side of the equation, you have a problem with demand
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in that the EU itself, it can't force member countries or private companies
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to buy American energy products.
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So they're not in a position where they can dictate that.
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Weird how that works.
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So like forcing them to buy American energy is impossible.
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Right.
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And the United States can't create enough to get to the number that is in this deal.
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I don't understand what you're saying.
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I feel like you're trying to make some sort of point,
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but all I'm hearing is that Trump is crushing it in business.
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He's so good.
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He's so good.
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So Trump needed something to save face over the fact that his tariff demands weren't going to fly.
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So the EU agreed to a ridiculous thing that the US can't deliver on and they can't enforce.
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So everyone can just walk away feeling like winners.
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That's nice.
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I was reading a couple of takes on this that were...
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Are there takes?
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Do you need a take?
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Well, I don't know.
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But people have the interesting point of like,
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I think people have figured out how to deal with Trump.
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Yeah.
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And that is just don't lie.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's lying.
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Why would you not lie?
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How many times have I been screaming this at people for how long?
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Yeah.
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Give him a fantasy that will make him happy and then everybody else can act like they're real.
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Yeah.
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God damn it.
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Fake capitulation.
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It's like, it seems like it could work.
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Yeah.
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And this deal was like a really prime example that people had of like,
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Well, it kind of looks like the EU just agreed to something that was non-binding
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and they definitely can't do and the US wouldn't want to do either.
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Yeah.
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We'll play pretend with you.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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That's great.
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Can I just ask the question?
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All right.
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So Trump is crushing it at business for you.
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Now...
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And you.
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I feel like perhaps if he was crushing it at business for me,
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there would be some evidence that he had crushed business for me in the past at any given point in
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time. And considering he is a 90 billion year old man, we would have some evidence.
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But he has only ever crushed it at business for himself.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It's not, there weren't homes stakes.
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You can crush it at business for other people without being the president.
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You definitely can.
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Yep.
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And this is such a weird example for Alex to be taken as like this big win.
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Because like the numbers, like I said, they're ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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They essentially would require the United States, all of the energy that we export,
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you'd have to go to the EU and then we'd have to make more in order to get to this agreement.
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Or we could just not give a shit.
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Yeah.
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No, imagine if we just had a department of the government called the coddling department
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that made up a bunch of fun things for far right conservatives and those people to believe in.
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And then everybody else just worked the rest of the day, like normal people.
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I honestly think that maybe it's at this point,
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is it a chronic condition we just have to deal with?
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Right.
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I mean, you have to live with.
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It's about pain management, not pain solution.
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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So the issue that Alex has is that we gotta be nice to Putin.
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Of course.
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We gotta be friends with Russia because if we don't, they're gonna be friends with China.
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We don't want that.
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So we need to drive a wedge between them so we can have all the business.
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Because Russia and the United States, they secretly want to be friends, but not China.
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China's bad.
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Why?
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What?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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But Alex says something towards the end of this clip that I just thought was, it just very funny.
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So I've always been here.
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Just because we're getting people in government that aren't 100% against our country,
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does it mean when, oh, now I'm for China taking over because I don't want the US elites to be
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in control.
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There are elites now.
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We're taking the country back and we're cutting off the Chai Comms.
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Got it?
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We have power.
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We hold the administration's feet in the fire.
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We're in charge.
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Got it?
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What, you think we stand up to communist China by putting the Democrats in?
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Maybe.
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Well, JD Vance is just trying to end the war with Russia because he wants to cut China off.
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Yeah.
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Uh-huh.
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Exactly.
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You know what China's doing to the South China Sea and everywhere else?
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You know what they're doing dominating the whole planet and what their agenda is?
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You think the Democrats are bad.
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The communist Chinese make them look like angels.
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And the Russians have got the biggest country in the world.
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More resources than the whole continent of Africa.
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The real strategy Pentagon documents going back to the 50s and throughout,
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up to now, and the Rand Corporation and Carnegie,
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said the ultimate alliance would be the United States and Russia geographically and resource-wise
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and culturally and through soft power, we would dominate the whole planet and have a true golden age.
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And hmm, the middle east, Saudi Arabia is going that way and just stopping.
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And then we can have the Jetsons future, but not under this current trajectory.
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So yeah, I do support Trump and the security establishment beachhead we have that doesn't
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want to drive Russia in the arms of China and destroy the dollar in America's future.
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Yeah, 100% I'm in alignment with that, of course.
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And stop the eugenics poisoning of our food and water and the Bill Gates plant and all the rest of it.
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And the Hollywood demoralization of the country.
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Trump's doing all the right things on that stuff, folks.
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Securing the border, national sovereignty, all of it.
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But the main danger is NATO attacking a nuclear reactor in eastern Ukraine,
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blowing up some NATO ships planning on Russia, firing some missiles into Poland or Romania or
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something like that. We're in the prime zone right now for titanic efforts, as the Russians
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say, to derail this peace deal. Because Zelensky and NATO won't take it, so Trump says fine,
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I'm going to go do a deal with Putin, offer it to them, and if they don't do it, we're out.
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And it's going to happen. And this brings down the whole globalist system.
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And it cuts Russia off from China and drives them into our arms, which in all strategic
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analyses is the obvious best move for everybody concerned.
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Empires that were smart didn't kill each other. They made alliances.
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They married their sons and daughters off. That's what they did.
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That's strange. Certainly the guy who hates feudal systems and kings and stuff
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is like, we should intermarry.
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No, what we should have is two large empires that control vast swaths of territory between
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the two of them. You know, I think that's great.
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Through threats of extreme violence.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's because it would be a new golden age,
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so people would just naturally go along with it.
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Sure.
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Like when you de-radicalize the Middle East, if you're America and Russia, what you're really
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doing is just talking. It's talk therapy. Look at us. We got through it. You guys can get through it.
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I'm picturing Putin pulling up a chair and sitting backwards on it.
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Let's rap, guys. Let's get into it.
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That's how he's approaching the situation.
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I guess the more shocking part was actually at the beginning of that clip where Alex is like,
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the elites are our elites now.
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Yeah, that one's crazy.
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Kind of got to be stupid to try and pull that.
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In what world can you have your own elites? That's the whole point of it. The word elite is
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they have you.
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Yeah. They have their own intrinsic interests that don't include you.
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Yeah. I understand the British people think it makes sense that they have a king,
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but the king has them. That's how kings work.
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Yeah. And like I said, this is kind of the difference that Alex is finding himself in.
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He's inside that conversation between the elites and the unwashed masses.
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Right, right, right, right.
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As opposed to being someone who's like, this is how they're trying to trick you, man.
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I'm trying to trick you.
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This is the guy who was in the union, who's fucking fighting, who's crushing it,
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and then he's a rep and all of a sudden he's like, you know what? These guys are really nice.
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I think if you just talk to them, we don't have to get everything we want.
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Yeah. It has that vibe.
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Yep.
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So most of the beginning of this episode has been a large desire to go to war with Mexico.
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Right.
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Signing off 100% on Trump putting troops in DC.
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And I thought like, we are off to the fucking races.
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Yeah.
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But then halfway through the show, everything changes.
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Fuck that shit, because we got to talk about beef.
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Oh my God.
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Well, the story has gone mega viral in the last two days.
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And I'm so glad that the public is finally erupting with interest over this,
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because I've been focusing on lab grown meat and lab grown butter and lab grown milk and
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insect flour.
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It's not flour.
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It's toxic chitin shells of crickets and things.
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Or flour.
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Or flour.
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For decades. But now all the big top food producers, Tyson, you name it, in the last
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four years have invested tens of billions of dollars and they've got factories, you
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can pull it up, built all over the United States to have lab grown meat and produce
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all these insects and try to force you to eat it.
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Now, at first I thought, all right, we're just doing eats the bugs.
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Yeah.
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And we're just going to try and rehash that territory.
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Why not?
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But Alex kept teasing and he kept selling this story.
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It's gone mega viral.
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What?
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I don't know what it is.
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Well, I'll give you a hint.
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It has to do with fucking fake butter.
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There we go.
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Fake butter.
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Yeah.
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There's a fake butter company and someone did a local TV news piece about it.
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Yeah.
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Was it that they can't believe it's not butter?
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I don't.
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I think they legally couldn't say that, but they were dancing around it quite a bit.
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I am finding it difficult to grasp that this thing is not what I expected to be.
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You have deceived me into thinking.
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Yeah.
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So that's the kernel of the story.
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Right.
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Now I would probably just ignore this except for this leads to one of the biggest belly
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flops I think I've ever seen Alex do.
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I love it.
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And I think it'll pay off even if I hype it.
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The high dive.
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Here we get into the beginning of the discussion of lab made butter.
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Okay.
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Try to just look at the lab made butter.
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We're going to get lab made beef, salmon, all of it right now.
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A company called Batavia in Illinois is making butter in a way you're not ever seen before.
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No animals, no plants, no oils.
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The butter is made from carbon oil.
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The sustainability focused approach has the blessing and backing of Bill Gates.
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CBS news.
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So let's go ahead and roll this news report.
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Then I'll give you the news behind the news.
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The rest of the story.
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It looks, smells and tastes like the butter we're all familiar with, but without the farmland,
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fertilizers or emissions tied to that typical process.
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So this company isn't called Batavia.
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That's the city.
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Yeah.
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The city in Illinois.
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Done a lot of comedy at Batavia.
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Sure you have.
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Uh, there's a company called Saver and they're at the factory in Batavia.
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Sure.
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A fund started by Bill Gates is invested in Saver and he wrote a blog post about their
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butter product last February.
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Okay.
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This isn't news.
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Alex just saw a bunch of idiots posting about this year old story that now like maybe a
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week before this, some local news did a thing about the factory.
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Yeah.
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Isn't it interesting?
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They make butter.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I can't, I understand that there's like a lot of fear and stuff because yeah,
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of course there is.
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But I thought I've always thought that the future had part of it was just like, Oh, we
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can rearrange Adams to make the thing, you know?
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Like, Oh, we can rearrange the air to make butter.
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Great.
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Perfect.
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That's the future, right?
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I don't need to ask questions.
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Sure.
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I mean, someone should be asking questions, but it's not me.
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But not me.
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Yeah.
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I'm not, I'm not going to help in this situation.
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I do a podcast and I'm kind of interested.
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Yeah.
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But I also know that I'm not a butter scientist.
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Absolutely not.
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So I will, uh, I'll leave a lot of those.
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Should we do this question?
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I'm barely even a butter enthusiast.
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Yeah.
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I, I, I accept the stuff that's below.
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I can't believe it's not.
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I can't believe it's not butter.
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Right, right, right.
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This shit is not butter.
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No one's gonna be tricked.
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Unmistakably not butter is the brand I buy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So look, man, they're trying to sell you fake butter.
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Also, where can I get to?
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When can I get this fake butter?
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Where can I get this?
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This will come up later.
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Okay, good.
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In the local news piece.
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This is a very important thing because this is a local news
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piece from Batavia, Illinois that I'm supposed to view as a
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threat by the globalist.
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2027, it might be in stores.
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So get scared.
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Fear now.
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Right.
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But here's the thing.
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All right.
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They're trying to sell you this and they know the only way
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they can do it is to fucking get women to do it because women
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aren't scary.
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Women aren't scary.
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How all the managers, all the reporters.
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Oh, my God.
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Are women with Stockholm syndrome, but got their college
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degree in PR and science.
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And so it's non threatening.
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Oh, it's a woman.
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It's always a woman.
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Oh, we're gonna teach your son to cut his penis off.
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It's transgender.
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I'm sorry.
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That's a joke.
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I'm a woman.
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I'm non threatening because epigenetically, you're not
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threatened by a woman as being a tyrant because traditionally
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men commit 97% of violent crime in every culture.
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Okay.
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So I think Alex's point is supposed to be that the globalists
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have women sell you on these evil things like fake butter
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because no one's scared of women.
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That's great.
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But Alex is super afraid of women and anything he sees as
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not masculine enough.
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The globalists aren't putting a female face on this.
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The company's co founder and CEO just happens to be a woman
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named Kathleen Alexander.
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Alex sees a woman in this position and he needs to invalidate
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it somehow because she couldn't possibly be there because
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of merit and hard work.
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She's only there because the globalists need a not scary
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face to sell you on fake butter.
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And if they didn't need that, then a man would be in charge
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because that's the way nature intended it.
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And I'm not scared of women.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think the real issue here is that the magical
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science is finally being perfected.
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Alchemy will come true in our lifetime.
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We will be able to turn lead into gold.
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And that is an achievement, right?
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That not even Newton, not even Isaac Newton himself could
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figure out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So now we can turn air into butter.
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We're just gonna make butter from air.
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Shouldn't that just be something that we all go like,
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good for you.
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Like, I'm not even stoked or against it or anything like
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that. If you want to try and turn air into butter, fuck yeah.
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Well, I think the real question is, once they do that,
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what will stop them from replacing all the air with butter?
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I mean, and then how do you so many again, so many things.
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Oh, they pretend to care about climate change, but they
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want to replace air with butter.
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So the butter is like a cat's cradle.
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It's like Vonnegut's Ice Nine or whatever.
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Once you fabricate enough butter, it will create its own
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butter chain reaction.
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And then we'll all drown in butter.
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You're crazily not far off.
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I'm sort of joking, but Alex kind of thinks that lab grown
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meat is self replicating in a way that it could take over.
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Right.
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Fair enough.
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What you gonna do?
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Because they're growing this meat with human cancer cells.
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How does it taste?
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I love butter, so I'm going to take a really healthy amount.
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Admittedly, surprisingly, like butter.
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Back it up again.
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Cheers.
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Back it up.
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Back it up.
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Back it up.
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Back it up.
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I love butter.
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It's all scripted, so I'm going to take a really big bite.
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It's not butter.
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How are they allowed to call bug protein?
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Kitten.
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Very carcinogenic.
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Their shells.
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Flour.
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How are they able to call human cancer cells?
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Beef.
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How are they able to call human cancer cells?
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About to get to it.
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Fish.
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Because you take a blob of fish and throw it in with Henrietta
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Lacks, the mortal cell line, and it grows a whole vat of it.
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It cancer takes over those cells like the movie The Thing
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and then replicates a giant vat.
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Some of these vats I've seen them of the size of Olympic
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swimming pools.
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You just throw in blobs of Henrietta Lacks's cancer blob
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and you throw in some salmon cells and a month later you
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got a big giant vat of salmon.
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Do you?
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Yep.
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Just throw it in the pool.
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Just so Henrietta Lacks cancer cells into some fish.
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I mean, this is not a great system, but if it works, you know, it works.
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It's so funny because I see the thought process in his head.
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No, I see it.
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It's how Clayface from the Batman anime series was created.
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Yeah.
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It's amazing.
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It's so dumb, but kind of beautiful in a way.
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It is the way that a child would see how this would work
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and it would be pure in its own way.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So throughout this, he's interrupting this local news story
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and he's teasing a lot that he's about to-
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he's gonna get to the cancer cell part of it.
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Henrietta Lacks of it all.
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I could not love calling a local news segment acting more.
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Have you ever seen a local news-
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these are so-
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this is the most produced thing that this place is gonna make that day.
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And they loved it.
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They fucking loved it.
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Let them have their fun.
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Yeah, to the extent that anything isn't taken over by Clear Channel
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or whatever these big conglomerates that own all of the stations.
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Let these people do their shit.
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Let these people just have their fun.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is teasing.
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He's teasing away.
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We're teasing Mark.
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Another reason they say this makes an impact?
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No palm oil.
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A significant contributor to deforestation and climate change.
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That's not all.
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Of the 51 billion tons of greenhouse gases emitted every year,
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7% is from the production of fats and oils from animals and plants.
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So when could you get a taste yourself?
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Right now they're working directly with restaurants-
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Hey, boss again, back it up.
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Oh, it's so wonderful, so delicious, and so healthy.
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When can you get it for yourself?
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That's what you asked.
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Yes, that is what I asked.
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Don't worry, it's only the most trendy restaurants first.
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Just like the fake salmon from human cancer cells,
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we'll tell you about in a moment.
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Let's continue.
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This is a guy having fun.
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This is great.
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Some ladies are talking about fake butter and Alex is pissed off about it.
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So he's just interrupting this video over and over so he can blow off steam
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and he just keeps promising that right around the corner,
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he's going to show us these lab-made meats that are being grown with human cancer cells.
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He sucks and this is stupid, but there's something about this that feels right.
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This feels like home for Alex.
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When I was growing up, my grandfather spent most of his day,
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like starting at 10 a.m. or whatever,
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at this bar with these three other guys playing cards the whole day.
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They weren't drinking, they'd have maybe a beer.
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Like they were just there, that's where they were.
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And they were talking bullshit at each other,
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things that were nonsensical that could never happen, that will never happen,
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that wouldn't happen in anyone's mind but their own.
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That is what Alex is meant to do.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's it.
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He's meant to sit there and talk shit and break down what secret messages the media
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is trying to tell you with this fake butter stuff.
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Interjected every now and then with, it's your play.
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Yeah.
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Yep, that's what it's got to be.
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And he needs the staff to press the button and back it up a couple seconds.
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He needs that.
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Yeah.
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Can't do it himself.
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Uh-uh.
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So the local news hit ends and Alex is fucking pissed about her wardrobe.
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Bullshit.
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I put more information on food sustainability and how this could impact our food industry
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moving forward in the story that's up on our website right now,
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where you'll also find more information about this company.
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Reporting inside Savers facility in Batavia, I'm Tara Molina, CBS News Chicago, investigators.
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Oh, and like the doctors wearing white lab coats, take the shot.
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You can't get COVID.
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You can't share it.
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You'll get a nice heart attack and cancer though.
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It'll destroy your immune system and you get COVID way worse.
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She's wearing a hard hat and safety glasses.
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My God, I got to listen to her.
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So Tara Molina has won both national and regional Edward R. Murrow awards.
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Holds a master's degree in mass communication from Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite
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School of Journalism and Mass Communication and is overqualified for this.
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Sure.
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She put on a hard hat and safety glasses for the sign-off shot of this piece,
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but that's kind of like the level of quirk that they allow on local news.
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This is what we're here for, man.
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This is the human spirit that refuses to give in to corporatism.
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All of everything else that you could ever complain about mainstream media does not apply
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to this one section.
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This media is perfect for what it is.
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And it relies on that heart attack.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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The story is about a factory in Batavia producing this butter.
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So it's not like that hat is out of place, but more importantly, how is wearing a hard
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hat like people wearing lab coats so they can convince me to get vaccinated?
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Right.
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I get that a lab coat is supposed to signal that I can trust those doctors,
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but are construction workers known for telling you what foods are safe or are they butter
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scientists?
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I mean, I have no idea.
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Does it make me trust her more to be like, oh, she's a blue collar person instead of
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very qualified woman who's telling me about this?
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I don't know, but he's mad.
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I mean, but don't you see the beauty in a local news segment about imaginary butter
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you might see two years from now?
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Maybe.
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If you and you will never have to buy.
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No, no.
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You will never, it will never affect your life.
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You will probably never think about it again.
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No.
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Almost certainly never ever again will you think about it.
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Only reason you're thinking about it now is because someone tweeted something angry
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about this local news story and you saw it on Twitter.
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You're of the people who saw it in real time.
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You're one of maybe 200.
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If that.
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Yep.
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So, you know, you got these butter, fake butter, fake butter.
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Now that's like a fatty thing.
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It's like a fat oil lipid kind of thing.
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I mean, if you can create it on an atomic level, I suppose you can't call it fake
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it's actual butter.
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I don't believe it.
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Fair enough.
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No, I don't know.
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I don't want to litigate that.
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I don't really care.
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I'm just using fake butter as a proxy because.
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Yeah, no, I was just being.
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It's real enough for me.
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Yeah.
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I don't care.
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Absolutely.
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But they also got fish.
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Okay.
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They got salmon.
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Okay.
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They got some salmon that had grown in swimming pools.
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I mean, everybody is rejecting this crap, but you notice, oh,
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they're putting it in food companies that don't tell you what's in the ingredients.
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Like, well, they said that's coming in 2017.
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Really?
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They got approved last year.
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Now it went on the shelves this week at restaurants at the most trendy Haitian
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restaurant in San Francisco.
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Lab grown salmon introduced by Bay Area based cultivated seafood company, wild type.
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So it's not wild, but they tell you it's wild salmon when you, oh, it's wild, but it's not.
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It's not even salmon.
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Yeah, man.
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Right.
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So there are literally news stories about this brand of salmon being lab grown.
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So I'm not sure what point Alex is trying to make.
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The only reason he's even heard of their name is because someone wrote a press release about
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it being served at this restaurant.
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And then folks like who Alex follows on Twitter got mad about it.
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There's no trickery here.
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And the only reason this even happened is because Trump's FDA approved their salmon
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for public sale back in May.
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Oh my God.
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So the wild type name of a company, no one's being tricked.
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They're trying to actually get more people to the restaurant by advertising,
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Hey, we got this fake salmon.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask you a question?
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Yeah.
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All right.
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These swimming pools of fake salmon.
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Do you see yourself being able to, like, if you were giving a guided tour, would you be
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able to grab a spoon and be like, take a little spoon, like, have a taste of salmon for yourself?
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Texturally, spork.
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But yeah, I think that's wise.
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Yeah.
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I'm actually kind of imagining, like, does Alex think they're fins?
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Right.
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That's what I'm...
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Right, right, right.
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Does he think you still need to clean it?
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What level of recreating fake salmon does he think?
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I mean, obviously we know that it's not like they're putting it in salmon shaped molds
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and then, you know...
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They're not also recreating scales.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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But does he think that?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That's the million dollar question.
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And I don't know.
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I don't know either.
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Yeah.
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So they use this name wild type to try and trick you.
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Okay.
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Because they want to trick you into eating this fake meat.
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And that's why they use the women...
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Don't they have on the menu, like, fake salmon or even a press release that's probably available
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that they themselves put out?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They made a big deal out of it.
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Yeah.
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Area based cultivated seafood.
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Seafood.
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It's not seafood.
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It's grown in the lab.
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Cultivated seafood, wild.
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What did they call their company with the fake butter?
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Savor.
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It's savory.
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Everything like listing again, a deadly poison like cyanide is applesauce.
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Lab grown salmon is now FDA approved.
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Here's why this one restaurant is putting it on the menu.
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It's the hottest restaurant, the Haitian restaurant.
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Wow.
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They should have another cuisine.
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Well, they're black.
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We better eat it.
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So that was quite a leap.
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What are we doing?
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Whoa.
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So this company Wild Type makes lab grown salmon products and a completely separate
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restaurant decided to incorporate it into a dish after the FDA approved the salmon.
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Yeah.
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That restaurant serves Haitian cuisine, which Alex associates with black people.
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So it must be a ploy to stop people from questioning the meat.
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This is a dude who thinks that women are trying to trick him into eating fake butter and he'll
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be called a racist for not eating fake salmon.
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Yep.
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This is sad.
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Do you know what this reminds me of?
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When I was growing up, there was a certain type of dude who you would be out with and
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maybe you'd just be walking and then you'd be talking and then he'd do like a nut tap
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where he'd just smash you in the balls real hard.
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Right?
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That hit of racism at the end, that was a nut tap to me.
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That was exactly like, Jesus, man, ow.
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Like what the fuck just happened?
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Where did...
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There's no need for that.
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No, no, no, there's not.
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No, don't be that guy.
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I love though that this show has deteriorated into Alex just being so suspicious about black
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people and women trying to make him eat fake foods.
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What in the world could you possibly...
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Why would they...
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What?
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Well...
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What?
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We might have an answer a little bit later.
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All right.
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So we're in the meeting, right?
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Where we're trying to sell people fake salmon.
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All right.
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We're people who are in the real world thinking about how the real world works, right?
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Is our first thought like, oh, America responds well to black people and women.
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Yep.
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They're not scared of women.
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Right.
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And they don't want to turn down fake salmon from a Haitian restaurant because they'll
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be called racist.
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You know what?
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If I was going to work with McKinsey Consulting, I doubt that would be their decision.
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Probably.
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Just saying.
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So here is what I would say is one of the finer moments of recent memory on Alex's show.
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Alex is talking about...
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He finally is done with the complaining about the ladies and the butter.
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We're free of that.
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Talked about the salmon a little bit.
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Now we got to talk about cancer cells.
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We got to talk about the immortal cell lot.
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Right.
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Henrietta Lex.
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Yep.
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It's not me.
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That's false advertising.
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Who's afraid of lab grown meat?
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Yeah, what's wrong, pussy?
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Science created immortal human lipid cells.
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Now let's talk about in most of these companies how they're producing it.
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Growth hormone, immortal cell lines.
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And then they just emulsify the cells of whatever it is they want to copy.
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And then the cancer grabs it and then uses the vitamin water, basically.
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I don't mean the actual company of vitamins and sugar.
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And then it just produces this giant cancer blob and they call it beef.
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Beef.
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That's such a good explanation.
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That's good.
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I imagine getting so many degrees, working so hard for so long, learning so much, and
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then being at a dinner party and just having to try and explain even the slightest bit
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of it to Alex and then just going, fuck it.
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You know what happens?
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We put some stuff into a little Petri disc and then it goes, and then you get meat.
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That's what happens.
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It would go the opposite direction.
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Alex would be like, oh, you think you're so smart with what you do at your job.
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It's just a blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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That's fair.
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Try and alpha you.
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Oh, you use syringes.
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We all use syringes.
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So Alex has quite a headline there about immortal human lipid cells being created by these scientists.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So lipids are a group of chemical compounds in the body that take a bunch of different
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forms, but one of the main ones is fats and oils.
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Sure.
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This is why the news about the butter is so important because they claim they're just
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coming up with this fatty oil out of nowhere.
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But isn't it just a coincidence that scientists created an immortal human lipid cell line?
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It's almost too big of a coincidence to ignore.
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Well, I mean, in a sense it is a coincidence, but also at the same time, in a sense, it's
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more that one is not possible without the other being true.
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Well, I have other news for you.
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Uh-oh.
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Alex misread the headline.
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Oh, no.
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The actual headline is, quote, scientists have created immortal human lip cells.
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Lip, not lipid.
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This is about researchers at the University of Bern successfully immortalizing a lip cell
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line for the first time, which is a big breakthrough and has nothing to do with fake meat.
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No, that seems cool.
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This is art.
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Alex has been teasing this immortal cell shit for the whole episode, and then when it's
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time to pull out the source, he misread a headline, but he's in too deep to bail.
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Absolutely.
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I want you to listen to this moment again.
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Scientists have created immortal human lipid cells.
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Now let's talk about...
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He knows that didn't say lipid.
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Fuck.
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I do like it whenever his pauses are swear words.
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That is nice because we've seen it a lot, especially when trying to read where he just
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goes, fuck, silently.
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I appreciate it.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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This, that's poise though, too.
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That's a guy who realizes, can't go back.
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Can't go back now.
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Nope.
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Too late.
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If I stop running full speed, I'm gonna...
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No, a lot of people would have read the word, hit a brick wall, and then have scrambled.
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They would have panicked.
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They wouldn't have been able to pull it off.
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That plane is getting crashed into that mountain.
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This was fantastic.
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Sometimes it's just good.
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Just a little pause.
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Yep.
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That you can clearly tell I'm full of shit.
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Whoops.
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Oh, well.
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Oh, boy.
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If I keep running, I'll never fall.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So why not keep running?
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Why not keep running?
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CNN lab grown meats cleared for sale.
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Go read about immortal cell lines.
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Just type it in.
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Type it in.
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Henrietta Lacks and one other person.
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Their cells never die.
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You mix everything, it just copies them.
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They call her Cell Line.
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Her family gets paid a patent on now.
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Gila Henrietta Lacks.
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Yeah, man.
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Millions and millions of tons every year of her cells created.
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Henrietta Lacks, immortal cell line.
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Here she is right here.
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She came in a couple of weeks.
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This blob grew in her whole body.
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It was John Amoeba sitting there on the wait hospital bed.
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I'm sorry.
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See what this does.
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And now you eat it.
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A spontaneously immortalized muscles stem cell line from
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Brown Marbled Grouper for cell cultured fish meat production.
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You can just read all about Grouper and salmon and everything.
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And they just.
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They just splice it in with her.
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Just call it that.
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So you know you're eating a black woman's cancer.
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So that article that Alex thought was about lipid cells,
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but was about lips, talks about how the researchers were
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able to create that line from donated cells from two people
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who are currently alive.
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Sure.
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The name immortal cell line sounds like something otherworldly
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or magical, but it's really not.
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Nope.
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Alex thinks that there are only two cell lines that have ever
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been immortal, which come from Henrietta Lacks and some
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unidentified child.
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Because he thinks all immortal cell lines come from these
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two sources, whenever he sees those words, he assumes that
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it must be about human cells from one of them.
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Yep.
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The headline that he reads off there about Grouper is from
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a 2024 article in the journal Communications Biology titled
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quote, a spontaneously immortalized muscle stem cell line
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from Brown Marbled Grouper for cell cultured fish meat
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production.
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This is about fish muscle cells.
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It has nothing to do with Henrietta Lacks.
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This is crazy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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Maybe.
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Okay.
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So if I'm looking at two options, all right, tell the truth.
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Wherein very smart people have figured out all kinds of
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very smart things.
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And I look like an idiot.
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Or lie my balls off and call people cannibals.
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There are reasons to be wary of technologies like this.
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Sure.
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You don't have to be stupid to be skeptical.
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And it's so funny that Alex can't.
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He has to be stupid.
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Just be just it's fine.
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It's fine.
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If you're going to get poisoned by fake butter, there's no
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way you're going to be able to stop it.
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Right?
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Like if you can see a fake butter poisoning coming, then
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they shouldn't even do the fake butter plan.
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Right?
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Sure.
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I mean, I think again, we get to the issue of all air being
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replaced by butter and what the scientists will be bitten
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by the snake.
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They tried to charm.
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The butter singularity is going to happen.
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Yeah.
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So anybody would, you know, you'd not start the process
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because you know that this is inevitably what's going to
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happen.
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My wife loves butter.
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That would be her chosen way to go.
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The butter singularity.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, it's savory.
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It's good on toast.
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That's what they want you to think.
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Sure.
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So Alex starts to think about this.
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He's like, all right, I have just described the blob.
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Yep.
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And it absorbs everything and becomes bigger.
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And so Henry Delex, her whole body became a big old blob.
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If I understand correctly, that is what he said.
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And then they just started adding it to things.
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And then like, oh, hey, we can make beef.
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Yep.
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So he started to think about this.
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And I believe at some point, live on air, he realizes,
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why would it ever stop?
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Good question.
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So if I'm buying a steak that is this.
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That self grows.
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If I leave it in the fridge or whatever,
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it's going to become two steaks.
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Right.
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And then four and then eight and then 16.
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That is how it works.
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And then we're going to get into that grain of rice thing
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with the prints and the chess board.
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Yeah, it's going to be a problem.
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And so Alex is like, you better just cook it.
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I mean, that'll stop it.
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What do we call cancer cell blobs?
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We're going to sell them tumors of hyperactive cancer cells
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that take over everything.
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Well, you I'm just thinking you better cook this lab grown
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meat really good, because if you absorb.
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Well, this is hit me if you eat.
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Say it a living, say undead, uncooked, immortal cell line
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that takes over any cells around it.
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Yep.
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That means Oh my God.
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What's the coming shot?
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It goes in and turns off causes cancer.
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My God.
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Good Lord.
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I mean, and then you've got all the big, big pharma companies
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saying, Oh, cancer is about to go up 5000% is going up right
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now. You go straight up and you're like, and everybody's
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going to be eating this whole honey.
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Let's go out and have some wild salmon tonight.
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Well, if you $50 for this is wild card.
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Oh, good Lord.
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He's cracked the code.
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He's figured it all out.
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I don't know what to do with that.
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Oh, good Lord.
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Oh, good Lord.
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Oh, good Lord.
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See, I want to talk about that specific moment with you,
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because I really don't know if Alex is taking himself
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seriously in that moment.
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100%.
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Has he given up on himself?
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I was.
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Because the tone is problematic.
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The tone sounds fake.
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The tone sounds incredibly fake.
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The tone sounds like fucking Adam West is saying, Oh, good
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Lord, the Joker is out again.
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Yeah.
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It's tongue in cheek.
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No, no, no, no.
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I don't know.
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I don't think his is tongue in cheek.
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I met Adam West.
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Sure.
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Right.
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But his has the similar tone to that, which makes it difficult
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for me to say that it's a genuine.
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Oh, good Lord.
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As in fear of this brilliant plan that he stumbled upon.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Like, I think what it feels like to me is someone who hasn't
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convinced himself and he can't really even get it up to
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just like, Oh, Hey, if you eat the beef, it'll give you cancer
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in the because it'll the cells.
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Right.
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And the COVID shot was to wipe out your immune system so
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you couldn't fight the beef.
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Right.
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Fake beef.
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You're right.
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Is this him being like, I can no longer get it up.
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This is my Ed.
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This is what it looks like.
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This is what it looks like.
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This has never happened to me before.
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I can't get it up for this.
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I guess the meat is going to become everything.
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Bullshit.
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I think some of it has to be because of the lipid thing.
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No, you're right.
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I think that even though he valiantly battled through that
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headline, even though he did not show any sign of losing
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his momentum in the moment, I think it took its toll.
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I think the friction of that has gotten him to the point
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where, like, I don't want to over commit to this because
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by tomorrow I'm not going to be able to use this headline
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anymore.
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Nope.
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So shouldn't have used it today.
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Yeah, the beef is going to take over.
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Oh, the beef is going to take.
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Oh, good Lord.
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Oh, God, you guys.
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I can't.
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I fucked up.
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I fucked up, guys.
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This one's on me.
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Maybe try the butter.
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It's probably going to be fine.
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That's but I feel like this at the end here.
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Oh, good Lord.
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Oh, good Lord.
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That's why you storm off.
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That's why when you have that headline, you pretend that
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there's a tech problem and you just get off air, regroup,
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because you're going to end up in a situation where you're
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like, better cook that beef well, you better cook that
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cancer well.
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That's where you ended up.
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Better cook that.
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You better cook that well.
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We've already established that you've bought the fake meat.
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You're fucked.
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According to Alex, you've already bought the fake meat,
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but you've got the fake meat.
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You've been tricked by the globalist.
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You're like, oh, well, but then the globalist plan can be
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foiled by proper cooking.
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If I understand correctly in Alex's worldview.
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But yeah, you got to get a meat thermometer.
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You got to have.
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It's got to be well done.
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We can no longer do thermometer.
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Oh shit.
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Oh, good Lord.
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They're trying to change everything.
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It's not a meat thermometer.
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It's a cancer.
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It's a heli-therometer.
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Oh, boy.
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So anyway, that was a lot of fun.
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And I'd like to remind you that this episode started with him
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encouraging war with Mexico.
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Yep.
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And then turned into a tirade about fake butter based on a
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misreading of a headline.
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Yeah.
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You know, you know, I will say, you know what I would say?
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I would say this, you know, like when you think about reading
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history books and they tell you the things that happened,
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it's sometimes hard to put yourself in the mind of somebody
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who's living through the thing that happened.
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Right.
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So you can find out that all of these characters are actually
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ridiculous characters later on.
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But in the moment you're like, this is the government.
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So this is the emperor of Rome saying something, right?
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It's hard to imagine living through the bat of pool of salmon
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stuff being real.
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And then just, oh, I guess that's fine.
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Yeah.
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Just throw a little bit of throw a little salmon steak into
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a pool sized bat of undulating salmon cancer cells.
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And it had to be a pool too, because he's thinking about
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swimming as a fish.
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Yep.
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So like you wouldn't have a pool full of beef.
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Why?
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Why would you have a pool full of beef?
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Aren't barrels?
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Don't they exist for a reason?
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Yeah.
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Barrel beef.
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Yeah.
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It's gotta be a barrel.
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It's gotta be a barrel.
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Fish are in a pool.
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You could grow it in casks.
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We could have like aged fake meat.
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Yeah.
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That's the way to do it.
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But that's the thing.
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Once they crack that nut, you can age immediately.
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You can age that meat.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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There's just no end to it.
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And that's why the poison is going to be in the butter,
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obviously.
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Yep.
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Because put a little butter on your fake steak.
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It's good that way.
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Double dead.
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It's good that way.
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Dear God.
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Oh, dear God.
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So anyway, Trump has taken over DC.
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That's the takeaway from this episode in particular.
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And Alex is spending his evening talking about butter.
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We will check back in to see how Alex responds once Trump
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actually has deployed some of these forces.
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And Alex is forced to justify and defend this.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Leo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo!
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Yeah!
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Woo!
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Yeah!
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Woo!
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
