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Dan and George knowledge fight.
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I need money.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Dan.
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Andy and chances.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to knowledge fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around worship with the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is I was playing tennis with my cousin.
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We like to play tennis.
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It's fun.
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And then he got sick.
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The air quality was really bad and he just couldn't play any longer.
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So we had to stop.
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And we'd only been playing for a little while.
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So it was like, eh, this isn't any fun.
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But even though it was 7 30 in the morning, there was just another guy out there.
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There's just another guy by himself.
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Now that's weird.
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That is weird.
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Because tennis is for two.
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It takes two.
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Yeah.
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Or a wall.
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Or a wall.
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But he was just playing around, you know, doing stuff.
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I don't know.
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How?
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I have no idea.
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He was just hitting balls.
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Way up in the air and running around?
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No, he was practicing serves.
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Okay.
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I think that's what he was doing.
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So you can do that by yourself.
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Yeah, sure.
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I mean, it's not as impressive to get one past somebody if there's no one there.
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No, but you know, you get a bucket of balls and you, yeah, that kind of thing.
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So instead of calling it a day, I was like, hey, let's just play some tennis.
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And the guy said yes.
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Okay.
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Yeah, it was great.
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So we played for another, like, half hour.
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Him and me, we talked.
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We, you know, it was great.
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It was real fun.
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Oh, we didn't keep score.
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He was not, he's not as good as me.
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He's good against no one.
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He's good against no one.
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So it was, it was just fun to, you know, go back and forth, hit a little bit.
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Sure.
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Didn't have to try and win anything.
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That's nice.
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You know, it's nice to run into somebody and they say yes to life.
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It was awesome.
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It was awesome.
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We both, we both, it was, it's interesting to genuinely meet a new person, a complete
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stranger with just the intent of like, I guess we're going to hang out now because both of
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us could feel this, like, this isn't what we do in 2025, is it?
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Yeah.
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Do we still just shake hands with new people?
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I guess we do.
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Well, you have to over the, over the net.
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Over the net.
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Yep.
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All right.
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What's your bright spot?
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Well, I think I've talked about this before, but I'm going to keep on, I'm going to extend
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it even further.
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Okay.
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Cereal is getting out of hand.
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Cereal is getting out of hand.
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I agree with you.
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I have encountered a couple of cereals recently that I feel like this isn't a bright spot.
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This is a warning.
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This is a warning.
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This is a label.
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To the cereal industry.
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I'm calling you out, cereal.
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You can't keep doing this.
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Frosted flakes had a donut hole variety.
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What?
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Yeah.
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It's just like balls of like, cause frosted flakes are just like, you know, frosting on
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a flake.
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So this is just like a brown thing, but with frosting frosted on it.
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Terrible.
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Just a disaster.
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That's awful.
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That sounds awful.
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I didn't care for it.
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And I'm mad at the tiger now.
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Yeah, I believe it.
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Um, so the other thing is every goddamn cereal is throwing in marshmallows.
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That's true.
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I think I've brought up in the past that I found a Froot Loops with marshmallows.
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That's disgusting.
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And I recently found a Fruity Pebbles with marshmallows.
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No.
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It's too much.
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No, that's a fucking travesty.
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You have to choose one lane that you're going down with these candy cereals.
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Marshmallows are not an addition to most cereals.
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Marshmallows are usually a subtraction to most cereals.
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They belong in specific territory.
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Lucky Charms.
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Absolutely.
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The Monster Varieties.
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Of course.
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We can throw marshmallows in there.
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Boo Berries.
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Yes.
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You don't want Cinnamon Toast Crunch with marshmallows.
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It's too much.
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No, disgusting.
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You pick one major.
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Yeah.
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And then you graduate.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Where are you going to focus and where are you going to matriculate?
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Kellogg's University, my friend.
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These fucking cereals are trying to be jacks of all trade.
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And it's just not working.
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You know, it's tough.
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It's tough because you got to ask yourself, like, don't we have some ambition?
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Like the people who make Kellogg's Corn Flakes.
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They've been doing this since a guy tried to stop people from masturbating.
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That's what this is their whole thing.
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What are they going to do?
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Just make Frosted Flakes forever?
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Somebody's got to have ambition.
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Somebody's got to shoot for the ad marshmallow stars.
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Right.
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But they did the donut hole.
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Oh, that was a bad idea.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just look, don't hold a bad idea.
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Yeah.
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Throwing marshmallows and everything is insulting.
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Yeah.
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Because we can do that ourselves.
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If we really want marshmallows in that cereal, we can do that.
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I will put the sugar in Grape Nuts by myself, sir.
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Thank you very much.
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You're depriving me from the ability to be creative.
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Yep.
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Agreed.
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And I don't like it.
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No, you're right on.
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Cool it, cereals.
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Knock it off.
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So today we have an episode to go over, Jordan.
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All right.
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We're going to be talking about July 13th to 15th.
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OK.
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2025.
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All right.
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As we encounter the next chapter in Alex's deterioration
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around the Epstein debacle.
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I think it's going great.
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It's still going great.
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I think people have got a handle on it.
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I think we've all moved on.
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I think, thankfully, nobody's made any own goals
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since this time period.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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There's not still headlines coming out that are dicey
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and need to be spun.
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Nobody's on a rooftop.
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Hey, look.
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I know.
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We've talked about this.
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I didn't look too deeply into it,
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but you texted me about Trump being on a rooftop
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and yelling at reporters.
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And I thought, like, I get it.
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I like being on a roof.
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No, no, no.
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This is, you're right.
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This is the most relatable thing I can think of for this man
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to do right now.
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Yeah.
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If you had like a folding chair and a cooler.
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Yep.
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Having a beer on the roof.
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I get it.
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Guys, what are we all doing here?
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That's the thing that I'm going to open up a beer
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and talk to you about.
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Yeah.
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It would be a chill move on the president's part
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to hang out with his bros on the roof.
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Agreed.
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But yeah, this episode sucks.
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This is a disaster, and I think it's very funny.
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OK.
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But before we get down to any of this,
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let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, happy eighth birthday to Clifford,
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the big gay dog.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, please send help.
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Ultra methylene blue cleaned out my mitochondria,
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the powerhouse of the cell, and now my cells are dead.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And macho man Charlie Donnelly comes in with a flying elbow.
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He's completely eviscerated, decapitated, obliterated
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the competition politically.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we have technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Zach from Lou in St. Paul.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So you might notice that there's a little bit
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of a gap in between our last episode and this one.
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Sure.
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And that is because Alex goes away.
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I'm sorry?
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He does.
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He disappears for a bit.
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Fun.
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So if you're Alex at this point, after the ninth,
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those are our last episode.
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After that, you're probably thinking
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that you've made it through the worst of the turbulence.
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And they can't really get any worse from here.
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It's hard to imagine it getting worse.
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Damage has been done.
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Trump blew up at a reporter who asked someone else
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why the DOJ seemed to be changing their story
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about the Epstein case.
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And that looked so bad that Alex had to explain it away
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by saying that Trump had made a deal with the globalists
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and maybe was planning on using this blackmail
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that Epstein allegedly created for his own purposes.
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Sure.
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For Americana's sake.
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Survivable at least.
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But that was a few days ago now on the 13th.
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And the Trump base, they have a notoriously non-existent
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attention span.
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In the past 10 years, they've cultivated a media ecosystem
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built on the principle of distracting the audience
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from realizing that Trump sucks.
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And he always has.
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If you're in the position of a propagandist within this space,
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in the past 10 years, you've thought like, uh-oh,
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this is the big one.
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Like, 100 times.
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Only to see whatever you're really worried about
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fade into the background whenever
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some other shiny, scary headline comes around.
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Oh, no, there's another migrant caravan.
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Oh, no, secret Ebola outbreaks are happening in Denver.
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What I'm saying is that things had to look dark.
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But you would have every reason to think
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that maybe it could blow over.
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This whole time, Alex's primary message
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to the Trump administration has been,
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if you want to cover this up, then shut up.
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Talking is hurting the cause.
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And now it seems like Alex has decided to take his own advice.
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Because Owen hosts the show for the next few days
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while he tries to recover from whatever
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the past few days' spin has taken out of him.
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Alex takes off Thursday and Friday,
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the 10th and the 11th of July,
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and he doesn't have a show on Saturday.
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But then, on Saturday, Trump got on Truth Social
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and posted a message that just made everything worse.
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Amazing.
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He said, quote, what's going on with my boys,
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and in some cases, gals?
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They're going after Attorney General Pam Bondi,
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who's doing a fantastic job.
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We're on one team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening.
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We have a perfect administration,
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the talk of the world, and selfish people
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are trying to hurt it.
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All over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
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For years, it's Epstein over and over again.
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Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama,
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Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan,
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and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration,
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who calmed the world with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,
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51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell, and more?
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They created the Epstein files,
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just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton,
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Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me,
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and now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands.
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It's a very long post, but it wraps up saying, quote,
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one year ago, our country was dead.
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Now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world.
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Let's keep it that way and not waste our time and energy
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on Jeffrey Epstein, someone that nobody cares about.
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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As you can imagine, this didn't go over well.
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And on Sunday, even though Alex has a show on Sunday evenings,
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he couldn't wait and had to get something out.
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Gotta do something.
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Because this is a crisis.
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That is fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, as a lover of dignity, none to be found.
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None to be found very near here at all.
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A lot of capitalization in weird places.
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Yep, that sounds right.
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Do you not think it's dignified for him to have put my boys,
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and in some cases, gals in quotes?
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Amazing.
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Boys and gals are in quotes.
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Do you know what I love about something like this post?
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Is that this post started with, don't worry, I got this.
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Yes.
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Sir, what are we going to do?
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Don't worry, I've got this.
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Boys and gals nailed it.
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Let's roll.
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What's up with my boys and sometimes gals?
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Sometimes gals.
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What's up?
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Very few gals these days.
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Wonder why.
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Anyways, Epstein's probably not a problem for me.
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Would you guys please shut the fuck up about this guy?
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What are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
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All we're doing is pointing out that he was my best friend.
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That's playing right into the enemy's hands.
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And my fake friends won't shut up about it.
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I mean, that's actually accurate, though.
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They are his fake friends.
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I don't know if anyone's a friend.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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So Alex has been gone, and that's a little bit strange.
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But I do think that on some level,
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it's partially because he has to think that everything's OK.
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Trump calms down a little bit.
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And then it picks back up here on the 13th,
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and there's just no way around stepping back in.
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Owen can't handle this.
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Do you know what's funny about it?
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Is that this is one of those things where, once again,
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we suggest that Alex is aware that he can only
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make things worse because of his inability
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to not make things worse.
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Right?
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So we can rely on nobody paying attention to Owen,
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or him just being able to toe the line of like,
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and that's it.
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Yeah, Owen talks, and the world ignores.
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No one cares.
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But Alex could create something that he's
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going to have to undo if he's on air.
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He's a danger to himself in a situation like this.
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Alex, you're a grenade.
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We got to put you away for a while.
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And they know it.
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Yeah.
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So he's out of studio.
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He's on vacation somewhere or something.
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Right, right, right.
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He's in a bunker.
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Yeah.
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And he has to record something on this Sunday,
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because it's like fucking hell.
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This is crazy.
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Yeah.
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So I call balls and strikes on this.
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And I'm not here defending the fiasco we've seen
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and what's unfolded that we've been at the very center
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of breaking and reporting on.
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Ball.
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But I have my integrity, so I've got to go where the facts
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lead.
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That said, you notice during the last few days,
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I've posted a few articles, a few videos,
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but I've not really made a bunch of big statements about this.
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Strike.
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Because I wanted to really do my own research
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and really make an informed decision
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about what I was about to say.
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Ball.
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And doing that research has only opened up
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more questions than it's answered.
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Error.
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Yep.
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Alex wasn't doing his own research.
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He was desperately hoping Trump would shut the fuck up
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and this thing would go away.
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He was hiding out, and rightly so.
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Alex was only going to talk himself into choppier waters
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and like you brought up.
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It's perfectly said.
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No one cares what Owen does.
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He went to jail, then got out of jail,
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and basically no one noticed anything had happened.
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Didn't become like a martyr, didn't become
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just a guy who was in jail for a while.
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Tucker barely interviewed him.
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Yep.
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I'm pretty sure that if Trump hadn't posted this shit
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on Truth Social, Alex would still be off air.
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For the past few days there's been bad vibes
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and hush talk about Dan Bongina wanting to quit at the FBI,
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but you could still possibly think
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that this was going to be all right.
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Trump blowing up at that reporter was bad,
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but this is now becoming a pattern.
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And it's pretty clear that Trump isn't going to budge here.
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So I can see how this would be like a moment,
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an inflection point, where it's like this isn't going away.
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There shouldn't be any question for these people at this point.
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Like Trump has made the cost of entry to the club very clear.
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Yep.
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And it is shut up.
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Yep.
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You can't ask questions.
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Guess what?
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I get to do whatever the fuck I want,
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and that's beyond what you ever imagined I would want to do.
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So surprise.
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So Alex is like, hey man, it's a holiday, kind of.
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Sure.
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It's the anniversary of Trump getting shot in Pennsylvania.
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So why won't we think, look, think about how stressed he must be.
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Let's remember.
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That one year ago today, July 13th, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania,
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a young man with total government federal MO connections goes to that
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fairground and is on top of that building for at least 10 minutes with a gun.
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And everybody's saying gun, gun, gun.
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No one does anything.
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And sure enough, they've now forced the Trump administration part of the report to come out
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that 10 days before they got a specific threat alert on the planet Butler.
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And then that was basically stood down on by the deputy director who we now know is
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involved running stand down.
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Trump's FBI just came out and said the crooks, the Pennsylvania shooter acted alone,
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and it wasn't an inside job.
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This is supposed to be another coverup that Alex is furious about, but now there's some
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kind of a victory here or something.
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The report he's talking about was put out by Rand Paul, head of the Homeland Security
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and Governmental Affairs Committee.
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And Alex should definitely not agree with the argument it lays out in terms of the advanced
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threat warning that Trump had.
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Alex has said that the globalists wanted to present the idea that Iran was trying to kill
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Trump and that they would spin these assassination attempts as being done by Iran in order to
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create public support for a war with Iran.
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Right.
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If you're an Infowars listener, you absolutely know this narrative backwards and forwards.
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In Rand Paul's report, the advance warning wasn't 10 days prior to the Butler shooting.
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It was the day before, and it wasn't about crooks.
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It involved the FBI arresting a Pakistani national who they claimed had links to the
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IRGC, and they claim admitted to the DOJ that he had come to the United States in April
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2024 to quote, recruit an individual to assassinate US political officials.
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According to the report, he met with undercover federal agents who he thought were assassins,
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made a deal for them to carry out the murder and gave them $5,000.
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That's not enough money for me to take this seriously.
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If the FBI, like with what they're saying is true, then I'll believe that this guy
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probably wanted to hire someone for a murder.
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But if they were paying five grand, they weren't working for a foreign government and no self-respecting
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assassin would take that rate to kill a president.
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That's crazy.
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Either way, the report Alex is making up a bunch of stuff about here, like he should
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have a fundamental problem with the premise that Rand Paul is working from.
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This isn't a report about like an inside job globalist assassination plot and the Secret
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Service stand down.
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It's about the Secret Service failing to protect Trump from an Iranian assassination
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attempt.
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Like Alex should be mad at this report.
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The Secret Service, okay.
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They've never protected anybody from getting shot.
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Right?
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Like we've had the Secret Service for a long, long time.
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Yeah.
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And it's actually, I was reading a history of all the presidents who've been shot at
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or died in office, which was fun.
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But it also shows like the slow evolution of people being like, well, we got to protect
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this guy.
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So the first time everybody's like, oh yeah, you're going to get shot if you try and be
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the president.
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And then they're like, ah, we'll have a couple of guys stationed outside of here.
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And then the more details and then the more details and then more details, but people
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are still going to shoot him because you can't see people coming.
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It's just how it works.
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Sure.
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I haven't read this book and I don't know for sure, but I would assume that there are
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like once bullets start flying, yeah, maybe they haven't protected anybody.
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But earlier stages, I imagine there are some examples of things that they've averted.
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But there's also like this to me kind of feels like the terrorist plots that were disrupted
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after 9-11.
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Oh yeah.
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Like there's a lot of FBI probably entrapment.
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Yeah, they've done like a hundred or more of those recently.
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If somebody is paying $5,000 to undercover FBI agents to kill the president, I don't
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know if that is an Iranian assassination attempt.
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That's somebody who's clearly not capable of doing the math of murdering a president.
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Probably.
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So you've very specifically chosen this person to steal $5,000 from.
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Yeah.
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So you just got to remember, man, it's a stressful anniversary and we all should go a little
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light on the guy.
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Yeah.
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So let's just have that background here of the stress and the pressure that Trump is
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under and the fact that the bad guys that we know are bad, the Democrats, the globalist,
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Obama's people, you just had to see him third on an elected term with Biden.
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Let's just remember that when we're balancing on this, okay?
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Because my job is not to be an apologist here for Trump.
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I'm very, very upset.
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Won't you think about how stressed out he is?
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This is an apologist.
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Come on, man.
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I mean, there should be...
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I think one of the things that would make communication between all people easier is
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if we had a visible meter of when it's going to cut it.
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Oh, that's going to cut it.
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His bullshit.
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But this isn't going to cut it, buddy.
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The meter's high.
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Everybody's meter is too high.
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You're going to have to find something to cut it because this isn't going to do it.
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Ironically, the only thing that probably could cut it is nothing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, again, yes.
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Just have Owen...
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Go home.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't really feel like there's anything short of being like,
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fuck it, I've put up with this too long, Trump bought me off.
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And having a Bulworth ass moment or something like that,
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it's the only thing that really feels like it would cut it at this point.
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Trying to deepen the conspiracy and come up with an explanation and guilting everyone
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about how stressed Trump must be because he got shot at a year ago.
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Nope.
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No way, dude.
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Nope.
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Jimmy Fallon and break character, my man.
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Let's do it.
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It is weak.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Trump, you know, he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago.
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Sure.
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Now, we recently, after this episode was recorded,
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we have gotten more information about Trump's feelings about that, which are not good.
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But Alex doesn't know that at this point.
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That's true.
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And so Trump was in New York socialite, Palm Beach socialite.
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He knew Epstein.
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I've did deep research on it.
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Never any connection to any of the crimes he committed.
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Jesus.
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Trump actually kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago 15 plus years ago.
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One of the first people to criticize him.
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It's true he said nice things about him before because he was in the newspapers all the time.
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Trump said a lot of nice stuff about me.
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So...
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Dude.
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What?
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Don't say that.
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What?
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Yeah, sure.
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Trump said nice things about Epstein, but he said nice things about me.
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Yeah, he's a lying piece of shit.
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What does that mean?
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When could you ever trust anything he says?
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Well, there's that element of it.
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Yeah.
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Then there's also the element where Alex is putting himself into a comparable position
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with Epstein.
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And that's not good.
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He says nice things about people who are evil, and then he says nice things about people
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who are me.
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And I can see that those two are very different.
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Yeah.
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Even though they're the only two in the same sentence.
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This is a...
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Like, in a season of unforced errors, everybody is committing in Trump's world.
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That's another one.
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That one's as close to the Hitler-Trump one.
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That one's pretty obvious.
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So, look, even though Trump's cool and very stressed out because he got shot at a year
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ago and we should all be very nice to him.
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Trauma's trauma.
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There's still the question of the Patel and Bongino and Pam Bondi, like they're flip-flop.
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And it just doesn't make sense.
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We recently get told there is no human trafficking.
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There is no blackmail.
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There is.
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He killed himself.
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Just go to sleep.
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And this is after we see Bondi, as you already know, and many others saying, no, no, no.
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We got these 14 terabytes.
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The Democrats were controlling them in New York.
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At the FBI, they wouldn't give it to us.
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We went and got it.
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It's all those horrible kids being raped.
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It's all this terrible stuff.
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Hundreds of new victims with Epstein.
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She's very specific.
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And then all of a sudden, Bongino and Patel come out a few months ago on Fox News, like
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during the headlights, going, no, no, no.
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It's all open and shut.
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There's nothing there.
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The case is closed.
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And Butler's closed, too.
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People go, man, that's terrible.
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Then they go on a tour, and Patel goes on Rogan and says the same stuff a month later.
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A bunch of other shows.
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And we're just like, if you guys think you can't prosecute this and want to move on from
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it because it's got US intelligence and Israeli intelligence involved, I'm not endorsing
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that, but I can at least understand the logic from your perspective of it.
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I said back then a few months ago, I said, shut up then.
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This is a self-inflicted wound.
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The way you are just absolutely fully and completely doing exactly what I would do if
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I was trying to discredit myself, as I said at the time.
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I think that Alex can't even quite grasp what he's saying.
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He's essentially saying, if stopping a giant child trafficking ring is too inconvenient
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for the deep state, then you should just let it go.
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But they need to do it quietly.
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They need to do it.
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I could understand you not wanting to disrupt the deep state because it would be a mess.
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Yeah.
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I understand that.
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But just shut up.
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It is interesting to me when unreasonable people feel like what they're doing is saying
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what reasonable people would say.
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That idea of, well, if this is true, then you should shut up without realizing what
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that admits about everything else.
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If you are aware that a way for them to get away with this that you want them to have
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is being quiet about it, then we have to go back and relitigate everything, man.
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Yeah.
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Everything.
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Well, I think it's an inherent problem that comes when your world is demons and angels,
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black and white, absolute battle between good and evil.
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And then you have to try and equivocate a little bit and do like, well, you know, you
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take the wins and losses in politics.
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You can't play both games because one side is the devil.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You've got either we have to fight for God or I don't really have to do anything because
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God's in charge, my man.
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That's what you get.
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That's why you choose that life.
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Yeah.
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And it's just no good.
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No good.
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So I think that Alex does not want to talk about this Trump post.
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Yeah.
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I think he's kind of like, he knows he has to.
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Sure.
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But he doesn't want to.
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You know, now you've seen Trump with his true social last night.
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They end here on X saying, you know, hey, look at all the great stuff we've done.
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The boys are fighting with Pam, but I back Pam.
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We all need to get on the scene.
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Some of my so-called friends are bringing this up.
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You know, I'm good.
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Just trust me and move on.
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Trump is not stupid.
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I don't believe he's involved with that scene in criminal.
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These files aren't just a list of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of John's doing this evil
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stuff.
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It's all his business stuff.
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And so Trump had said back in October with Lex Friedman, well, I'll release JFK and 9-11
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and RFK and all that.
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And I'm okay, but maybe not the upsteak is it might hurt innocent people.
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How does it hurt innocent people if innocent people went to the island?
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I mean, Disney cruises went there.
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How does it hurt innocent people if you're not in the investigation of criminal area?
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But you see, it's a bunch of powerful business leaders and people, a bunch of them who are
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guilty and they're telling Trump this will bring down the stock market.
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This will crash the economy.
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This happens.
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I said that last Monday and I've been proven right.
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They now floated that through circuits.
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That's what it is.
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And I'm not defending that.
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I'm just simply laying out the thought process.
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People keep taking clips of me out of context when I'm wargaming this and doubles advocating
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and saying, Oh, look, challenge is the worst thing.
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No, I'm not.
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I'm here exposing it all.
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But what I do is try to get lizards and viewers who teach me a lot as well in your comments
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and videos, but also I teach you to, to actually what do what real intelligence analysts do
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that I do as a private intelligence analyst for freedom in force.
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And I go out and try to, when I don't know exactly what's happening, but I have a general
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understanding to take all the historical context, current behavior, who stands to gain key bono,
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how the narratives are changing and try to give you an approximation of what's most accurate.
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Like today to have a website name M4 seems like that's what this all is.
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They say we're in info where everything's important.
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Well, people are so unaware of this back in 97 when I registered that name that I would
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say it was info war really popularized the term.
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Even though it was already in use in intelligence.
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You can really tell when Alex doesn't want to talk about an issue that he's brought up
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because he'll start going hard in whatever other direction his brain wanders.
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This is supposed to be him talking about Trump's insane truth social post, and it's drifted away
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pretty quickly into grandpa's story time about how smart he was to call his website info wars.
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He can't look at this head on because if he did, the only way to go is to say, you heard Trump,
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it's time to stop asking questions.
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That's it.
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Trump is directly coming out on his social media platform and telling people who are upset about
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Epstein that they're getting in the way, they're fake friends, and they need to shut up.
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There's no ambiguity here.
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No way to say that this is the globalists.
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The only question is, can Trump say shit like that?
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And Alex's answer on this episode seems to be yes.
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He seems to be drifting in that direction, which is weird.
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I mean, you know, at a certain point, maybe list all of your favorite ice cream flavors.
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And it's ice cream.
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So maybe every flavor is your favorite flavor.
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You could take a long time just on Ben and Jerry's.
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Exactly.
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So, you know, you just start listing those things and then by the time that you're ready to really
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get into things, it's time for the show to end and for you to get some ice cream.
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Second hour, Jenny's.
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There's a reward at the end of talking about ice cream and that's ice cream.
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Yep.
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So why would you talk about this truth social post?
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I'm on vacation.
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That's for everybody.
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Ice cream time.
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So, uh, look, Trump threatening the media.
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Sure.
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Not good.
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Wow.
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I mean, for democracy or whatever.
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No, no.
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It's really just more a tactics thing.
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It's, it's really just not ideal.
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You wish you wouldn't.
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The attempts by some of Trump world surrogates to reach out to talk show hosts and journalists
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and influencers and say, Hey, your access will be cut off.
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You'll never be invited to a Trump event again.
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You'll never be invited to the White House.
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You'll never be any of this stuff.
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You're not going to need conservative sponsorship, you know, no campaign contribution, you know,
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ads running next cycle.
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If you do this, that's what's going on.
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That a is not very moral.
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That's how the Democrats are out of sensory control.
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And then, and then B it's going to create a mega Streisand effect, as I said, seven,
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eight days ago.
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And that is exactly what all of this has done.
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So again, I go back to the central point of it is Trump and it is his agenda.
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His advisors that have gone with this narrative of him just saying, forget about it, move
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along.
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These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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As populist, nationalist, common sense, conservatives, whatever you want to call us Christians, we
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are not falling to Jedi mind tricks and gaslighting.
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Oh, teeny Jedi.
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So the mind tricks don't work.
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In fact, it makes everybody go, ooh, why are you doing this?
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Remember when a couple of days ago, Alex made fun of Ted Cruz appealing to his boomer audience
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with Star Wars references?
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You know, that's strange.
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That's exactly what I was thinking during that.
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It's hard not to anymore.
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It's very weird how we had the same thought about something very related.
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Yeah.
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So I think that, I don't know, I've never really been involved with the world of politics.
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Sure.
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I don't know how it actually works, but I would assume it's just kind of an unspoken
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thing that if you do things that the White House doesn't like, you might fall out of
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favor with them.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that means we're not going to advertise with you or we're not going to
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give you White House credentials.
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Sure.
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I don't know how much retaliation there is, but I would assume maybe there's like a cold
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look you might get from the press secretary or something.
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If you do, I feel like that is just how humans interact.
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It's a human system.
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That's how it works.
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I think it's crazy to imagine that someone would articulate these things.
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It's a bad idea.
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Some Trump surrogate being like, we're going to cut your ad revenue if you don't fucking
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shut up about Epstein.
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Yeah.
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Why would you say that?
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There's a-
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You could imply it.
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I think it was Terry Pratchett.
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I think it was Terry Pratchett.
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He invented this group of people and then he had them, because they didn't know how
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to lie.
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So this group of people doesn't know how to lie and they have to have somebody to interact
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with the outside world.
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And so they call them the liar.
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Right.
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And then the liar goes and meet with all of the other diplomats and they go, you make
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us feel not very good about our jobs.
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You know, because you're saying what you are.
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Right.
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It's kind of like that.
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If you don't say it, we don't have to feel like maybe we're liars here.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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But in this case, it's like extortion.
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Yeah.
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That's the trouble.
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I mean, is that a kind of lie?
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Maybe.
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Maybe it's a little bit on the you scratch my back, I scratch your back line of meritocracy.
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Yeah.
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And I don't think that it's good for a government to retaliate against reporters.
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Probably.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I don't think that that's okay for it to be business as usual.
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Sure.
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But I do think that in a real world setting, a tiny bit of it probably just happens like
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it might at an office.
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It's hard not to be like, Hey, you know what?
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That guy's an asshole.
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I don't want to see him anymore.
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He made me feel dumb.
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So I think he's an asshole.
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I'm not trying to end democracy.
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I'm trying to end that asshole.
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This is like an effort to end the press.
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This is the whole, let's get rid of all of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This may be a baby in the bathwater situation.
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Fucking crazy.
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Yep.
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So Alex has a new angle on what happened here.
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Great.
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And I bet it's going to work.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, it's going to fly.
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Yeah.
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It's going to pass the mustard test or whatever.
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It's going to cut it.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So Elon tweeted that thing about Trump being in the Epstein file.
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Sure.
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And then Trump kind of overreacted.
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Wow.
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That's really all this is.
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Is that all this is?
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It's really just an overreaction.
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Fair enough.
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We know why this is happening.
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A few months ago,
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Trump's director of hiring, who's got a very mysterious past himself, Gore,
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killed Elon's director of NASA.
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Not literally.
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It did a bunch of other stuff because the Republicans didn't want
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Elon in there because he's killing real, real, very believable now, though.
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And people said, oh, screw Elon.
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We choose Trump like it was a beauty pageant or something.
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And I said, you need to look out.
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Folks mess with Elon, came after him.
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The Democrats have that work out.
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So this is a really bad rift.
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It's really dangerous.
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It's out of control.
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Trump came out and said, maybe we'll use Doze to shut down his companies.
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The monster he created.
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I said, that's very dangerous.
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Not good.
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But I said, regardless now, this Epstein thing out there in the open, how will Trump respond?
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Well, Trump puts the pressure on and he has.
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Bongino and Patel announced the case is closed.
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They start doing it month and a half ago, two months ago,
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right after Elon makes those statements about him dropping a big bomb here.
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Trump's in the investigation, basically in the list.
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Didn't say he's raping kids.
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He said he's being suppressed as he's in there.
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And I'm like, I don't know if that's true.
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But let's just see.
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But this is dangerous.
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A lot of people have pop-carded out, hey, this is fun.
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It's like a gladiator fight.
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No, it's not.
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We need Trump to succeed.
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We need to stop the globalist.
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We need the Democrats.
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We know we're parable.
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That's that's a known thing.
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And so now you see this mature.
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It's not really been Elon that's been regenerating it now.
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It was Trump's over response coming out and saying,
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I want that investigation case closed.
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The people said, how dare me last Monday say this is from Trump,
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not Bondi, people were trying to scapegoat.
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And then, of course, he came out with a statement on social afternoon.
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And the next day at the press conference, it's not so famous.
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If Alex believes that this is the case, then Trump ordered a giant cover up of this case
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because he got his feelings hurt by an Elon tweet.
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If he believes that, then he's accusing Trump of possibly the clearest case of presidential
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abuse of power in American history.
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I don't believe that Alex believes what he's saying.
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But if he does, then he should be calling for Trump to be executed for treason.
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Like he why would he want like Elon tweeted something that's inconvenient for me.
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So I'm going to mobilize the Department of Justice to squash a case.
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What the fuck is he even saying?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And again, it's it's a tweet.
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More to the point, though, here, like this is a completely different narrative than the
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one Alex has been going with since this story broke.
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If Elon's tweet made Trump overreact and demand the DOJ publicly clear him of any wrongdoing
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with the Epstein case, then everything Alex has been saying so far has been wrong.
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There wasn't a deal that was made between Trump and the globalists.
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This isn't Israel and the U.S. intelligence agencies fighting for control.
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It's two creep billionaires arguing with each other on their respective social media platforms
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that they own.
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Like, this is stupid.
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Yeah.
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But it's incompatible.
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Yeah.
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You know, it feels like Trump is speedrunning Nero.
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You know, like he's doing all this stuff really fast.
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This asshole can't fiddle.
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Well, I mean, he can watch things burn, though.
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That's true, but he doesn't have the skills.
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I don't know if Nero was that good, though.
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I think a lot of people said he was good to him, but maybe behind his back they were like,
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the emperor can't play.
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Right.
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We don't know that for sure.
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We don't know that for sure.
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We could litigate this all day and talk about his technique, whether he was a good fiddler.
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Look, there are things to remember, like Nero, great fiddler, not a good emperor.
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Hitler, terrible painter.
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You know, it all happens.
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Do you think that if the devil went down to Rome, do you think Nero would beat him in
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a fiddling contest?
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You get that fiddle made of gold.
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I think the devil would take a knee and be like, hats off to you, buddy.
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But the devil only cares about your fiddling ability.
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That's true.
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He doesn't care how evil you are in a fiddle contest.
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No, he doesn't care.
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He's the evilest of them all, naturally.
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I think he would kick his ass.
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He would get the devil to win?
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I think the devil would kick his ass.
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The devil's really good at the fiddle.
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Then by the transitive property, Johnny would beat Nero.
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I agree, absolutely.
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There is zero doubt in my mind Johnny would beat Nero.
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Okay, it's been settled.
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So Alex is clearly trying to be like, Trump is cool.
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He just overreacted a little bit.
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He got self-conscious.
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It happens to all of us.
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But there's still gaslighting that's going on from the intelligence agencies.
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Oh, well, I mean, yeah.
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We're trying to tell you like, hey, there's nothing to see here.
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Yeah, that does seem wrong.
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And you cannot go for that.
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So everybody has seen this.
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And if we go along with the gaslighting and drink the Kool-Aid, we are now aiding and
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abetting in the lie.
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We're now aiding and abetting in this.
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We're now becoming a cult.
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And we are now by extension becoming accessories after the fact in front of God, not under
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law.
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But by saying none of this matters, none of this ever existed, none of this ever happened,
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we now by extension become part of that.
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And that's why it's the hill to die on.
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That's why I can't sit there and be part of this.
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Now I'm going to continue to support the good things Trump's doing.
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So Alex is sending a pretty clear message there.
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And that's he cares about fighting the devil, but not that much.
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He cares enough that he's not going to put on red makeup and carry around a pitchfork
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himself because that's bad optics.
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But he doesn't care enough to denounce the person who he helped get elected, who is by
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his own mythology and metrics doing the bidding of the devil.
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This is pathetic because Alex cries on his show about how demons are all around him and
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he's in a battle between good and evil.
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He does that to manipulate the audience into buying supplements.
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You can't do that and say that you're still going to support the good things Trump's
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doing while he's complicit with the devil in covering up a worldwide child trafficking
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and blackmail operation.
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You can't be the fire and brimstone guy and also the let's look for nuance guy.
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And when you try to be both, it looks pretty dumb.
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And that's what you're seeing here from Alex.
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It's just it's clashing outfits.
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Yeah.
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It's nice to have a big enough cult, though, where you can be like a Christmas and Easter
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guy, you know, like, listen, I don't go to Trump church every week, but, you know, we
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do it for the music on the day.
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You know, we do that.
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We have we have a little relationship there.
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You know, it's no big deal.
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Yeah.
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If like there was deep hostility between the regular churchgoers and the Christmas and
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Easter churchgoers, I think that's the inevitable direction that this has to go.
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There is deep hostility, but it's well below the surface.
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Yeah.
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When the rest of us aren't in the way, that's who they're going after.
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The Christmas and Easter ones.
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Yeah.
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Maybe there's a boiling resentment under the surface.
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Oh, yeah.
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But this is very surface.
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This is very surface.
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So Alex gets back to talking about Trump's truth social post.
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Sure.
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And he's kicking around the tires of this thing.
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All right.
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And he's like, fuck, this could have worked.
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Trump could have.
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We we should have just said that the Democrats destroyed all this is crooked.
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Hillary, what the fuck?
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That's something I've said, but I made a big deal about it.
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So the last week, though, I dropped the ball on this.
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It's true.
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The FBI Comey, which in 2013 was controlling the Epstein file.
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They decided to go ahead and limitedly bust Epstein.
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The year after that, so that they could put pressure on all the politicians and
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corporate leaders that have been involved in it and Comey under Obama was going to
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now use that CIA file that they've been gathering and garnering going back.
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They were making massage, share their file, Masat from everything we know.
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Lex Wexler and Epstein was mainly a MI6 Masat file.
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MI6 is the original maggaddies of this size.
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Close second CIA close third of my research.
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Sure.
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They came in and controlled that prosecution, made it limited, but used the fact that,
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hey, we got the file now, which it always had.
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But they had to have a way to come in and courts called parallel construction.
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They already have the file.
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It's their file.
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They control it.
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But when they've done something illegal through a black operation, they've got to
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create a case to then investigate all the areas of it to bring in the pieces so it
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can be admissible in court.
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Compende?
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My God.
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You're getting the real download here.
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The real deal.
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The download, the download.
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So it is true that what they left in the Epstein case research investigation files,
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the videos, the documents, the interviews, the witnesses, the court cases, the depositions,
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all of it is a deep state file because we've always said, oh, obviously the Democrats
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that were the main ones on this summer, hope is we're involved as well.
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But 90% Democrats as usual, the Clinton was all of them.
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They're not going to leave anything in the file that's incriminating for them.
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They're going to whitewash it, except they could leave in what they wanted in the file.
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And the files are FBI agents and us attorneys.
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There you go.
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And reports just like Crossfire Hurricane based on the CIA funded Steele dossier.
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So when Trump said that, it's true.
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And it hit me yesterday.
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I went, oh my God.
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I was about to go ahead and shoot a report and say, this is next level.
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Oh my God.
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Wait a minute.
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So I have it coming in conclusions here.
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I'm giving you my thought process.
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It's a dumb thought process.
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So this is entirely incompatible with the story that Alex has been telling up till this
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point.
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The Democrats didn't alter the Epstein documents to remove themselves and leave suspicious
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things about Trump in.
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Pam Pondy was supposed to have raided FBI offices and located houses full of evidence.
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What Alex is describing is his thought process.
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And as much as that, when he saw that post that Trump made, he realized he could have
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gone with that as the primary narrative and saved himself a lot of trouble.
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Alex has spent a lot of time saying that folks like Bon Gino and Patel should have just shut
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up.
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And the only reason their actions are now suspicious is because they said a bunch of
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crazy shit before.
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He's now suffering from the same problem where he could probably pull off the Democrats
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edited all the Epstein files thing if he just shut up earlier.
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But he said too much up till this point.
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It's a massive departure from where he was.
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This is what I was thinking the entire time this has been going on.
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I've been thinking that Larry Nichols is spinning in his grave because the obvious
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thing to do is be like, it's the Clintons.
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The Clintons did it.
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They did all of it.
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And then start screaming, lock her up.
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That's the obvious thing to do.
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It's Linda Bloodworth Thomas.
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See, there you go.
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They've had their hands in it the whole time.
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I found an unaired script of designing women that actually plays out exactly like what's
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happening on Twitter right now.
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That does sound true.
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It's predictive programming.
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Here's my address.
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Man, it's just right there.
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It's just right there.
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That's what that's the smart thing that Hillary did is she went away for a little while.
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But I think that Alex, the reason he didn't do that is obviously that would not have worked.
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Like it feels like it would have worked now.
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Sure.
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But in the moment, there's no way you're like, we can pull this off.
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Fucking Hillary.
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I bet.
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Roger would think that.
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I think, I mean, they couldn't have done it.
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It wouldn't be possible because of who these people are.
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But I think if they had advanced time, advanced warning, and they had an agreement on what
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they were going to say, if they all just screamed Bill Clinton at the same time, I think their
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base would have eaten it up enough.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Enough.
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Yeah.
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Enough.
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Yeah.
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So Alex was close when he saw this tweet and everything that's been happening.
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He was close to being like, fuck it.
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I'm going to war with Trump.
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Hell yeah.
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But then he realized that that post on true social was right.
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So I was moving into the realm of just because of a bunch of other bad stuff Trump just did
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that I'll get to in a moment.
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I'm just saying I'm not declaring war yet because the Democrats are so evil, but I've
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lost basic faith and I'm beyond concern.
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And now I hate to have to move my spotlight, mainly on Trump instead of the Democrats are
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trying to kill him and enslave us.
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But I'll get to the new stuff that really is upsetting a moment, but,
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but, but, but that fact that I think I've got all the angles and I got way more than
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most people.
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And I went, everybody's blowing up a Trump.
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Well, this is ridiculous.
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Now this is a deep state lie.
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It's it's their file.
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It's it is their file.
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Whatever they decided to leave and stick in the file, like the Warren commission total
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lie about what happened with Trump.
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Total lie about what happened with JFK assassination.
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We all know that now that's their file.
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That's what they decided to leave in there.
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And so that's really true.
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This is sad.
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Trump's truth social posts didn't make Alex feel embarrassed to have ever supported Trump
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and made him realize that there was a very easy conspiracy angle to this story that he
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had completely ignored.
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If it's not obvious, the reason that Alex completely ignored the Democrats edited the
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Epstein files angle is because it's ridiculous and it wouldn't have flown.
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For one thing, it's super defensive and the audience wouldn't have gone for it.
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Trump's base runs off a lot of different resentments and grievances, but Alex's end of
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that media space has become almost entirely dependent on Satan baiting listeners, mostly
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around Epstein type conspiracies.
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It's too central to the mythology and Alex's reason for existing.
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And if you said that the Democrats can just edit these files, then there's no possible
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positive conclusion left that you can promise the audience is coming.
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The justice you're supposed to be advocating toward is now impossible.
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And you've created an information war where the information part doesn't matter.
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Well, we've wasted everybody's time.
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Bye.
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Yeah, it's dumb and self-defeating.
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This is a narrative that you don't think of because it wouldn't work.
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But then when you've gone down these really dumb roads that also don't work, you think
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of this and imagine like, fuck, it would have worked if I would have just done that from
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the beginning.
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Some other pathway, any other pathway would have been like, yeah, it's less that this
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is actually a good narrative and it's more a reflection of how it's simple compared to
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the overcomplicated version of things that Alex has saddled himself with.
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Like the stuff that he's trying to pull off is so nonsensical.
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This is like, wow, I could explain this to a child.
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But see, that's the thing about it is that that's when it becomes nonsensical.
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All the other stuff started off very simple too.
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And then you have to argue about it and then you go, oh, well, that doesn't make sense.
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Oh, well, that doesn't make sense.
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In the same way, this one would have started out great.
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Look, this is so defensible.
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And then somebody asks a question and you're like, well, what if?
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And then it all falls apart.
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It has to get more and more complicated every time because it just doesn't.
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It's not real.
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We're at the result.
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We're at the dividing line between is and is not.
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There's no middle ground here.
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It is or is it isn't.
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We can't fight anymore.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, he heard him say that he has some other complaints about Trump.
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Yeah.
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And I'll just spoil that.
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And it's that he's not against fluoride enough.
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He's too good?
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No, he's not going to ban fluoride.
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And I think that's a really bad sign that he's trying to make that something that anyone
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really cares about.
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Do you remember when Obama wore that tan suit?
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It was a scandal.
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It was a scandal.
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So I just think that there is this indication that he's trying to shift the negative attention
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that's coming towards Trump to things like, yeah, attack him over fluoride.
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That one doesn't matter.
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Right.
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Let's do that.
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It's never going to ban fluoride in the water.
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That's never going to happen.
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So let's direct our attention there.
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This one sucks.
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Yeah.
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The Epstein stuff sucks and he's vulnerable there.
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Fluoride's cool.
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And I think that there's a crassness to what Alex is doing.
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And I think you can see it in moments like this.
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And I told you last Monday, I said this could lose the House of Representatives because
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people know about Epstein.
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They know about the coverup.
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They know about the Clintons.
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They know about Obama and Pizzagate.
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And they know about John Podesta and the kids getting delivered to the Woodland cabin hot
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tub for his enjoyment.
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And his brother promoting pedophilia openly in the Washington Post in 2007 saying what's
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a big deal showing all this horrible pedo art of kids being tortured and stuff toddlers.
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I mean, you know, we know this is the deep state operating system.
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And so for the cheerleaders out there that jumped on me and others last week and said
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Trump could do wrong, shut up.
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It's 50,000 trillion DHS.
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At first, oh, no, no, Trump's not behind it.
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Bonnie's over a ski.
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She's an idiot.
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Then Trump's like, no, I'm behind.
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I mean, that's completely obvious.
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He admits it now.
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You're behind saying shut it down.
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So that's where we are.
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It's where we are.
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Why does he care about the house?
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Like if you're accepting any of this stuff as being like what your main priority is,
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why are you worried about Trump's like really shitty response to this threatening elections?
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That's not what Alex is supposed to be about.
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He's not supposed to be an electoral politics guy.
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No, this isn't a team sport.
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This isn't supposed to be a team sport.
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This is supposed to be, well, I mean, you know, good versus evil, but good versus evil
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isn't your earthly teams.
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Yeah.
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That kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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It's just a strong indication of how incompatible like his behavior is with his ideology and how
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much he's lost his way in chasing this proximity to power or whatever it is.
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And it's sad.
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I mean, I'm sure for a narcissist, it's the most addicting thing you could possibly have is like,
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look at how important I am.
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The president of the United States is talking to me.
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Yeah.
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That's gotta be huge.
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Well, I mean, also God.
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Sure.
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Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, obviously the imaginary one is there, but the one that you can hang your hat on is the real
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one.
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Yeah, but is Trump really talking to Alex?
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But that's a whole other set of questions.
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Roger is, and I'm sure he's making a lot of excuses for why Trump isn't.
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I bet he is.
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So I didn't make this clear earlier, but Alex isn't just staying home from work.
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He's on some kind of vacation and he's sending these videos in that he shot on his iPhone.
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He took Thursday and Friday off and he said that he was going to be back on Monday,
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but Monday rolls around and Owen is hosting again.
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Oh, no one.
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And Alex might've been able to take the whole day off, but this whole Epstein mess just
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keeps getting worse.
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In the last hour of the show, Alex pops up for a special report.
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And I think that it's some grim stuff.
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All right.
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I'm doing what I have to do.
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My integrity is king.
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We're eight, nine days into this whole Epstein attempted gaslighting by the DOJ coverup exploding
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and endangers the entire Trump administration and by extension America and Western civilization
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and by extension the entire world.
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I want Trump to succeed desperately.
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I support 95% of what Trump's doing.
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I think he's a great man.
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If we want to research, he's not connected to Epstein and illegal activities, but all
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the one eighties and all the flip-flopping that we've seen has blown this into a new
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level of Streisand effect.
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Now, yesterday it came out in the corporate press that gives Lane Maxwell and federal
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president for human trafficking, Epstein's accomplice, the homicide operative, the MI6
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as well, that she's ready to release the list.
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And, you know, she's brought her case to Supreme court and all the rest of this.
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Number one, I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.
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She is on record, a human trafficker.
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And you don't taste my that's in prison and then take what they have to say later.
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So yeah, I'm defending Trump right there, but you look at this headline.
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The deep state is attempting to blackmail Trump.
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It doesn't mean they've got something, but they have had control.
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Like Trump said, the Democrats of the file, they took out whatever they wanted and added
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whatever they wanted into it.
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That's true.
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So a bunch of people are pissed off at me at one side saying, look, you're defending
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Trump when he said on true social two days ago that they've had the file just like Russia
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get or anything.
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They falsify stuff.
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You can't believe it.
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That's a real issue.
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They could have done that.
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I don't know they did that.
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I'm simply war gaming every angle of this.
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I'm just talking shit.
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There's only one angle that you're not war gaming though.
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That one's fairly glaring because that war game is about as simple as it gets.
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Yeah.
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It's called declaring war.
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So on July 14th, it was reported that Ghislaine Maxwell had filed an appeal to the Supreme
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Court to get her conviction overturned.
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And she was trying to put feelers out to the DOJ looking to talk shop.
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This immediately got people worried because when she went to jail, Trump said he wished
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her well, which was strange.
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Add to that Trump's propensity to pardon people who do him favors.
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And you could easily see a pretty messy storm brewing.
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Wow.
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I mean, at least she wasn't moved to a lesser security prison.
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That hasn't happened yet.
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Alex doesn't know that yet.
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She hasn't met multiple times with the DOJ.
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No, I mean, listen, it's probably fine.
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It's probably fine.
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What's fascinating about Alex's take on this story is that he's trying to discredit Maxwell
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in advance of the possibility that she would say something bad about Trump.
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He says you can't trust her because he thinks the deep state is trying to offer her a deal
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to attack Trump.
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Whereas the reality seems much more likely that she could get a pardon from Trump by
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exonerating Trump.
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Yeah.
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Everyone has seen what happened with Roger and the January 6th crowd.
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Like this isn't hard to understand as a game.
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Oh, I mean, you know, just because you've done something multiple times and it's worked
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every time doesn't mean you think it's a smart idea to keep doing it.
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Nah.
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The overwhelming sense you get from Alex here on this report that he's doing is that his
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audience is not into what he did on Sunday, trying to carry water for Trump's narrative
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that the Democrats edited the documents.
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This is the Russia hoax all over again.
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Oh man.
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Alex floated that.
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No one's buying it.
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And now he's trying to walk it back doing the I was just wargaming act.
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It's very sad.
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And I think the sort of whiplash that you get from these two days is crazy.
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I'm what amazes me.
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What amazes me is that I have not seen them pay attention to anything for this long, maybe
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in my entire life.
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All of these people are continuing to pay attention to the same thing.
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They have to.
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They have to, which is, which is amazing because I kind of didn't ever believe they would
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have to.
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Yeah.
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You know, like I never really thought we would get to a point where they would have to like
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look into a mirror.
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So this is wild, man.
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Yeah.
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From my experience, I think that people have like, Alex has paid attention to things for
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longer earlier in his career.
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Sure.
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Like, you know, we watched the Boston bombing coverage and stuff, and that went on pretty
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continuously.
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You know, there are instances of that, but a lot of that is before social media took
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over everything and his brain.
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Yep.
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Like it's such an anomaly now that something has like, like traction.
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Like a sticking thing that he just can't get past.
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Yep.
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And I think you're right that the reason is because the glaring one thing he won't entertain
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is that like, it's so obvious that there's just one conclusion that's unacceptable.
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Right.
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Right.
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Because if you weren't the guy that you're saying that you are, right, then you could
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at least entertain the possibility.
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Like, look, Obama fucked a child.
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Oh no, what would we do?
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We would say, go to prison forever.
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Fuck you.
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Right.
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That would be easy.
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It'd be easy.
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But he can't say it.
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No.
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Can't do it.
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He's a good man.
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He's a good man.
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Because God told him that.
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And if Trump isn't, then God didn't tell him that.
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Or Alex is lying about what God told him.
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Or God's lying to Alex.
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And that's a mess.
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Yeah.
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It does feel like this is one thread upon which the entire world will collapse.
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It's, you know, like Loki, that show with the tree and shit.
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You know?
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I've seen pictures.
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It's the show with the tree and shit, yeah.
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So Alex is not, he's not going to do much on this episode.
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He's just filming a little report.
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He'd seen Benny Johnson and he'd seen Glenn Beck and they're talking some shit.
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And he likes some of the shit they're talking.
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Sure.
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Like Glenn Beck is like, hey man, we're going to lose our souls if we go along with this
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bullshit.
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That is how it works, yes.
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So Alex is like, I like what Beck is doing here.
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And then what Glenn Beck said, he said, listen, we can't lose our soul over this.
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Yeah, we get Trump's doing a lot of good, but we know this is all there.
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We know that there was blackmail.
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We know that we're intelligence agencies.
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We know this video of him from around the corner doesn't show that he didn't kill himself.
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We know this, so you're insulting our intelligence.
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And then it implied we went child porn released, as Bonnie and others have done.
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It's just totally outrageous.
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So that's where I am on this right now.
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And I'll play the Beck clip or post a black clip here as well.
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But then you've got Charlie Kirk, who I think is a great guy and so much Republican voters
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on.
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I love him.
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He's like, I trust Trump.
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I trust the administration.
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I'm not asking any more questions and I'm not talking about FC anymore.
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Well, that's the message I reported last week.
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The call seraphim reports myself and people, but he also had his reports and some public
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reports of major talk show host influencers getting calls saying your access can be cut
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off at the White House.
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Susie, while stuff, if you don't stop and the FBI calling people, well, that's a cover
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up, so we don't want to be aiding the Democrats here, but we're not in a cult like Democrats
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that go along with corruption.
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Yeah, that would be nice.
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Charlie Kirk has been threatened by the government to shut up and he's going along with it.
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That's weird.
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Oh, you also might notice that Alex a couple days earlier had talked about people who were
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saying that Trump has said there's nothing here.
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We got to move along.
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Yeah, they were agents of Israel and Mossad.
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They worked for Netanyahu and all this stuff because they were Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.
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Right.
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Charlie Kirk is now doing the exact same thing.
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Sure.
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And that's not the story for him.
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And there's a reason I don't understand what could be the difference.
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Yeah.
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Strange.
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Anyway, I think that Alex is in a place where he's like, this shit, this fucking shit.
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I can't do this.
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The audience was not happy about me trying to smooth over on Sunday.
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And fuck, I think we might have to declare war.
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It might just be happening.
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I mean, if he pardons Maxwell, what the fuck are we doing?
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The only way to prove you're not in a cult is to leave.
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True.
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That's the only, there's only one way.
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Yep.
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So yeah, there you go.
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And sometimes that doesn't even prove.
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It doesn't always help.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the jury's out on Trump.
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Yeah, you'll never know.
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I want to believe in Trump and the jury's out right now, but this is a fiasco of fiascos.
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So no, I'm not going to shut up.
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I'm not going to stop asking questions.
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And I wish Trump would stop telling people to stop asking questions.
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Do you know how this crazy the fuck works?
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I mean, I hate to give you advice, cover something up.
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I don't even want to do that, but it's like, what are you doing?
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They say who the gods would destroy.
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They first make mad.
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And as our founders said, we can never be overtaken from outsiders.
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We have to destroy ourselves from them.
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And I know the Democrats are variable and I just need Trump not to behave like he is.
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That's my report.
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Good report.
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Not good.
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No, this is a man who is like, he's so clearly like, you guys are not doing what we need
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to play this game.
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You're not doing your role.
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Trump.
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Fuck.
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Come on, ma'am.
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I mean, let's let's again, this makes sense to all of them within their structure.
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Right.
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But in the real world, right.
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We are watching a man with all the bombs get into a slap fight with a man with all the
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money.
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And that's it.
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You mean Trump and Musk?
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Yeah.
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We're not we're not watching like a conflict play out.
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We're not watching an ideological battle.
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We're not watching a physical conflict.
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We're not watching anything but two giant babies whine at each other.
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And then we have to pick up all the pieces.
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And in the process of doing that, these people have revealed insane things to the rest of
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us.
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Yeah.
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And those two giant rich babies have, you know, accrued power and influence by promising
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people various things.
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Trump promising a white nationalist utopia of your jobs back and all of this shit.
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And Musk a techno utopia of, you know, also white nationalists.
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Sure.
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But with an on off switch.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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With a nice little twist to it.
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Cool LED lights in your head and stuff.
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Yeah, a little sci-fi twist on it.
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Yeah.
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So like they've both done this and people have fallen for it.
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And we've ended up in a position now where we're trying to intellectualize it so much.
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Yeah.
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Because otherwise we have to admit that a large portion of the population just will go along
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with that.
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Yep.
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And that's sad.
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Yep.
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That's gross.
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Well, America's a con.
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Hey.
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Yep.
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Fair enough.
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Yeah, I mean, no, I got nothing.
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So Alex, he's in a position where this has been a fucking mess.
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Yeah.
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You know, there is obviously the FBI memo comes out.
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There's the attempt to deal with it.
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Trump made a deal, blah, blah, blah.
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Things get a bit more anti-Semitic.
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We blame Israel.
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I don't know.
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Maybe deep state?
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Deeper state?
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No, no.
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Don't you get it?
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It's cool.
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Now Trump is blackmailing heads of state with their pedophile material.
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It's fine.
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He's the good guy.
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Yeah.
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What would you do?
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What would you do?
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So there's just been a all over the place attempt to war game in heavy quotes, an explanation
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for how Trump can still be good and these things be happening.
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Right.
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When he's there on that Monday, when he's putting in this special report, it really
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does feel a little bit like I'm done.
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Fuck this.
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He says, I have to do what I have to do.
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You got to do what you got to do is usually a not a good statement.
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He's supporting Glenn Beck coming out with a message of like, yes, I like Trump deporting
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people, but we are going to lose our mortal soul.
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Right.
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If we continue to support him when he's very obviously working with the devil.
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I mean, it's impossible to say otherwise.
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So then Alex comes back on the 15th.
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Puked and rallied?
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You bet.
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He saw something on Twitter and hope springs eternal.
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All right.
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So much to hit.
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We have some really good news.
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Last night I saw the Benny Johnson interview with Laura Trump, who's one of the smartest
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people in the administration and the head of the RNC.
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And she said, no, we're looking to appoint a special counsel.
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Or she said the feds are looking to and Trump wants to reopen it.
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He understands the public's concerns.
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People said, wow, could this be true?
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Of course it's true.
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She's like the mouthpiece of Trump.
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And so this morning I made a few phone calls and they said, yes, the decision has basically
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been made, but it's being developed right now.
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But look for a special counsel to be appointed as early as sometime this week.
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So that was like a million pound weight off my back last night because I knew Laura Trump's
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not full of crap.
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We don't spend enough time discussing how nakedly corrupt it is that Laura Trump is
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the head of the RNC.
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What are we going to do?
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It's low on the list, but it's pretty brazen.
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So Laura Trump has come out, I guess, and said that there's going to be a special counsel
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appointed by Trump to look into the Epstein stuff and not a moment too soon.
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Shit was getting hot in the kitchen for the Trump media.
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And this is exactly what they need to take the edge off.
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Alex is saying a hundred pound weight is off his chest.
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Independent investigation.
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Great.
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We can spin all kinds of yarns about that.
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It'll take years.
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Does it matter if it's actually independent?
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Nope, because by the time you can prove it, we'll be way gone.
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And if there is like a independent investigation that's going on, someone's going to tell
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Trump to shut up.
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Absolutely.
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One of these lawyers in the White House is going to be like, they'll finally get involved.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately, two days after this, the White House press secretary was asked if Trump
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was going to do this.
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And she said, quote, the president would not recommend a special counsel in the Epstein
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case.
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That's how he feels.
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So I guess Alex's sources were all wrong or fake.
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And it's really sad to see him get his hopes up like this.
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It's exactly what he needs.
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And he's just like gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble.
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I'll take it.
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I don't know what their internal like, here's what I think.
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OK, you know how like publications have a style guide, you know, like if you work for
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the Times, you're going to have to write like this.
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This is what you kind of sound like because the Times sounds like this.
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Right.
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I don't know what the time for lying is.
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What are the style guidelines for lying?
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Because sometimes it feels like they are fine with just lying straight to your face.
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And then sometimes it's like you could have said Trump is thinking about it and then
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move on.
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You mean like the what?
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Like the press secretary?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Why is she saying Trump's not into this?
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Sometimes you are very clearly lying with a smile on your face, like, we're probably
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not going to do anything bad.
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Like you're lying.
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So why not choose this time to be like, oh, he's thinking real hard about it.
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And I think he's going to pull the trigger sometime.
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You know, I would imagine, you know, it's a little bit of an art.
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And I think that you probably intuit a bunch of it off of what Trump is saying.
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Which is the wrong thing.
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If she's saying that in response to a question, then he's probably like, no fucking way.
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So privately, he's probably pretty clear about like, this is not going to happen.
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I'm totally against this.
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And she's delivering like a watered down version.
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Right.
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Just lie.
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Maybe Trump wanted her to say that though.
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Which is another crazy thing about these people.
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Insane.
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Insane.
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Maybe, maybe.
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Who knows?
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I mean, his mind might think like, if I say it's possible and then I don't deliver on
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that, that's going to be worse than me just saying, no, we're not doing this.
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You're going day by day, buddy.
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Anything that gets you tomorrow.
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So anyway, pressure's off.
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Yeah.
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It's good to know that this'll probably go away.
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Yeah.
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Totally cool.
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I think on the 15th, we're fine.
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I'm glad that we're past it.
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I'm glad we're past it.
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It's like a dark storm, you know?
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I'm glad we're past it.
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We can clear skies ahead.
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Yeah.
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And now that the sun has come up, the morning is broken, Alex can sit and reflect about
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how like, you know what?
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He just overreacted to Elon's tweet.
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I think that's going to work.
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I think we'll stick with that.
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There you go.
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That's really all this was.
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Yeah.
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We know from the different criminal indictments and investigations and lawsuits, basically
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what's in there and who's involved and there's no Trump.
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So why is he doing that?
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Well, because Elon came out and said he'd been told by people that Trump was somehow
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implicated.
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Now, is that manipulation by people giving Elon bad information?
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Or is Elon super sophisticated instead of trapped for Trump?
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I'm not saying that.
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I'm speculating.
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I don't believe that.
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Regardless, you can see this being teed up.
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And indeed it was.
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But you've got the King of England wanting it shut down.
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You've got all these other world leaders wanting to shut down.
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Trump could kill it and then get a lot of political cachet with those groups.
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That's the type of advice that Suzy Wiles, the White House chief of staff we know has
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been giving Trump.
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And I'm not trying to villainize her.
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That's very avant- that's the trendy thing to do.
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Very avant-garde.
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No, I'm sorry.
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It is Suzy Wiles because she's a big politico that has a foot in the Democratic Party and
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a foot in the Republican Party.
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So avant-garde.
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Yeah.
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So we're going to blame Suzy Wiles on this one.
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I think he's just I think sometimes you got a bucket of things that you want to say and
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sometimes you just pull out the wrong one.
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But then you've got avant-garde, so you got to stick with it.
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Just fine.
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It's avant-garde.
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Yeah.
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That's very expressionistic to blame Suzy Wiles.
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It's very interpretive dance.
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So we can see one piece here that Alex definitely wants to keep of the stories that he stumbled
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into and that is that Trump got hurt.
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His feelings got hurt by Elon's tweets.
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He squashed the Epstein investigation to protect himself and now everything's unraveling because
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Trump listened to bad advice.
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He wasn't covering up his involvement with Epstein in any crimes or anything.
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He just wanted to get the stink of Elon's tweet off him.
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You know, it's understandable.
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It's human.
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Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing about this that really fucking bothers me, right?
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Because we all know that political leaders on some form or function are going to do evil
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things like throwing a bomb at somebody is evil.
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You can't do that.
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We allow that kind of shit to happen, right?
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This is horribly fucked up to me as far as a leader of the of a government is concerned.
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I would rather have an evil like monster leader than one who suddenly does things because
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his feelings are hurt.
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
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Like I would want it like, okay, you're evil, but at least I know you know what you're doing.
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Sure.
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And I know that this is a really awful thing and a lot of people hide behind it.
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So I don't want to say like this is an excuse, but a lot of times geopolitical conflicts
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can be abstracted out to like, it's in our national interests to do X, Y, or Z.
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Sure, yeah.
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There you go.
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And monstrous things get slid under the rug and people, you know.
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It's not so monstrous because what could happen is even more monstrous.
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Yeah, the whole thing.
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And there's really no version of that for like my petty feelings were hurt.
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We are now like in the thrall of this person's emotions.
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Yeah.
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As opposed to what we could intellectualize as like national interest.
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Hundreds of millions of lives depend on this in some way.
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Yeah.
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Whether it be improving or deep, you know, like making them work, any number of different
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things.
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This is literally a guy's feelings are hurt, so he's going to fuck up everybody.
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Yeah.
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And maybe I also think that, you know, while we're on the subject, maybe the idea of those
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things being swept under the rug for national interest in quotes.
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Maybe that's something that deserves to be reevaluated.
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Of course.
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But it is still different.
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I want to evaluate adult things.
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I want to evaluate adult things so bad, but we've got a baby in the way.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I thought it was very interesting what Alex is up to here because he's typically
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been pretty positive about Suzy Wiles.
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But the more overtly Nazi side of the right wing media really hates her.
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Nick Fuentes called her quote, anti-white scum after she said, quote, for every Karen
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we lose, we're going to win a Jamal and Enrique.
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She was a central target of Nick's Groiper war last September, partially because she's
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been supportive of the Israeli government and is alleged to have helped Netanyahu's
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2020 campaign.
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Great.
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I'm not sure where Nick stands on the issue of her dad being legendary sports broadcaster
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Pat Summerall.
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What?
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But it's an interesting piece of trivia.
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That is an interesting piece of trivia.
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Turning on Suzy Wiles is a subtle but telling signal about where Alex's wins are
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blowing and who he's kind of buddying up to.
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So when he says that it's avant garde, it's obviously a stupid use of a word, but what
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he means is like the Nazi kids are on this tip.
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This is what the cool kids are doing like Nick.
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And it's avant garde to be anti-Suzy Wiles.
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I think growing up, because I didn't know much, because I didn't know much about the
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man or his life.
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If somebody had said like, oh, John Madden should be president, he'd be better than
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most of the presidents we've ever had.
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I would be like, come on, he's a broadcaster.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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John Madden would have been one of the best presidents we've ever had without a question
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in my mind.
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He would have been great.
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Do you remember when you mixed up John Madden's catchphrase with Emeril Lagasse?
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I do.
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Bam.
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Bam.
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Tough act and connected.
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So Alex, he hasn't picked sides and that's what really makes him so great.
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It is.
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And then Alex, he's talking about that and then he starts talking about how Trump has
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been chewing his own foot off.
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People go, wait a minute, you were just attacking Trump and now you're defending him.
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What is this?
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Well, I don't pick a side here.
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As the investigation goes on, our own investigation, your investigation, we call balls and strikes.
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Error.
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But it's basically what I said a week ago or over a week ago, because this is how these
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people operate.
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But the answer to that is 17.
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There's a lot of stuff about criminal investigations and other indictments that they weren't able
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to hide.
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Let them put out their report.
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That's got some fake Jane Doe thing in it or some FBI report and then let it all be
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run to ground and just like Russiagate, it's fake.
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And then you go ahead and you indict all the big globalists that are clearly involved.
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If you say no, sir, the easiest thing is just to shut this down.
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No, you've now walked into their trap.
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So I'm like Trump, it's a bear trap.
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Don't walk into it two months ago.
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Oh, you're getting close.
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You have your surrogates out on TV, you know, saying move along.
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Nothing to see here.
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Bongino and Patel looking like deer in the headlights.
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They've always been ordered by you to do this or by Suzy Wiles.
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Stop.
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Don't step in it.
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No, no.
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Boom on the leg.
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And now I'm like, now listen, Trump.
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If you keep doubling down is equivalent to chewing your leg off, you'll bleed to death
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politically.
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We can help you.
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All of us together can get that bear clamp off your leg, bandage it up, get you to a
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doctor and you're going to be all right.
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And Trump's sitting there with his leg in a bear trap.
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Where, sir?
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Just be calm here, please.
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OK, don't start chewing on your leg.
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All right.
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Hold on.
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You're chewing on your leg.
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Oh, that's see, that's not good.
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So that's the analogy here.
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Trump sounds like an idiot in Alex's mind.
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It sounds like Alex kind of hates this guy.
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Yeah, he's too stupid to know that he's chewing off his own leg.
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Like, I think that Alex is there's an infantilization that he has and also like a, hey, we're the
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propaganda guys.
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This is what we exist for.
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Yeah, stop it.
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You're making our job harder.
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And I just he seems mad.
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It's it is a resentment.
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It feels like the it feels like they know somehow this guy is magic.
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He makes the things they want to happen happen.
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Right.
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But also, he's a fucking idiot.
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So we have to make the things that we want to happen happen.
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The magic has to happen.
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But the only way the magic can happen is if we all pretend he's not a fucking idiot, which
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is great.
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It's great.
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Yeah.
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Except when he steps in these bear traps and he starts chewing on his foot.
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Yeah, boy, that one's tough.
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That's a glare.
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Like if you're holding if you're watching Weekend at Bernie's, Bernie's not even fallen
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into that, you know, and he's dead.
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Maybe Weekend at Bernie's too.
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Oh, well, he's definitely well, because he can walk.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's the big difference.
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That is the big difference.
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Little known fact.
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That's the big difference.
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There really isn't much else, honestly.
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So, look, man, bear trap.
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Alex is like, I got this.
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Trump's like, no, I want to chew.
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Yeah.
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And then Alex is like, no, dude, come on, I got this.
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And thankfully, Trump's listened and everything is all right now.
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Great.
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And now Trump is sitting there with his leg in it.
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And now they're getting ready to announce a special counsel and the bear trap went click,
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click.
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Bear trap, you have to click, click, click, click all these springs.
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Thanks for the details.
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Click, click, click, click, click.
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Does that feel better?
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Now, a couple more clicks.
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We can get your foot out of there.
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Click, click, click.
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Ah, yes.
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Let's avoid the enemy traps.
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That's what I'm trying to do.
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That's the tone of voice you use with an equal.
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So we've been vindicated again.
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Everything we said has come true exactly like I said it would.
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And all the mainline influencers and Republican minions that Jones is a traitor.
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He's an enemy.
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He needs to be, you know, shut down, put in jail.
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You're amateurs and you just take establishment talking points and parrot them.
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You have no integrity.
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You don't know what you're doing.
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Not like me.
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I have decided that Laura Trump talking some shit means that a special counsel investigation
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is open and we're out of the woods and Trump's foot is out of this trap.
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I like it.
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I like you are fucking stupid.
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If you just say it, it's true.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, we, we talk about this a bit that like this show is largely about his
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feelings and you can tell this ride that he's been on.
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There's a lot of relief, but also resentment here on this 15th.
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It is, it is such a strange way to view the time that we live in, because it is like watching
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the only member of the media who truly has no ability to control the, these things.
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Watch the only politician who truly has no ability to control these things and everybody
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around them enables them in the exact same ways.
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It's, it's fascinating.
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There are other people who operate on like some kind of a, my emotions are dictating
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stuff in right wing media, but none of them as rich and sort of positioned as Alex.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, there's no one else who has the same vibe as Trump in that way that like,
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we're all beholden to your moods.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's fascinating.
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And we just have to wake up and that is the day.
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He's mad at people today.
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So we just have to do that.
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And then tomorrow we will do something else.
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I was going to declare war on Trump, but then that Trump social post looked pretty good.
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So I'm going to run with that.
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Oh, my audience doesn't like it.
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Glenn Beck is right.
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We're losing our soul.
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Oh wait, there's a special counsel investigation.
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Everything is fine.
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Trump's out of the bear trap.
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Great.
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This is insane.
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This is not good.
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Oh man.
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So anyway, Alex yells about how QAnon people are stupid.
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Yeah, it's about time.
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Fight in the military.
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That's the reality.
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And boy, have we been proven right again.
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So now a special counsel, you can say, well, that'll be fraud, whatever.
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The point is it's not whoever was advising Trump to walk right into this Democrat deep state trap
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and say, oh, let's just move on.
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You know, stop it.
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Oh no, it's not Trump.
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It's Pam Bondi.
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You're rid of her.
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She misstep.
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No, it's Trump.
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I told you last Monday.
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And of course you learned the next few days.
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It was right.
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And over and over and over again, because this is what I do.
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This is what my team does.
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It's what my guests do.
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It's what my sources do.
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You have anybody who's been on the phone with this morning?
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No, you don't.
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Roger.
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So like that at the beginning of that, I guess I didn't include in the clip, the part where
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he specifically brings up QAnon, but he's ranting about the plan.
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No, I saw.
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Yeah.
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So I love the part there where he's like, I'm vindicated by this thing that is not true.
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Laura Trump said that there's going to be a special counsel.
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And then Trump said, nah, these have been vindicated.
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This is what I do.
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This is what I do full time.
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I say that it, and maybe I'm just taking a negative point of view on it, but I think
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it might be cheating to be vindicated before something happens.
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I think I view vindicated as a post script.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like I said this thing would happen and then it did happen.
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Then I have been vindicated.
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Not like, eh, it'll probably happen.
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I've been vindicated.
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Yeah, but someone tweeted about Laura Trump saying this thing.
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So that did happen.
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Vindicated.
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Right.
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I'm vindicated.
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Yeah.
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We're posting that tweet that Alex saw.
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Somebody tweeted.
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So look, Trump's had a tough time.
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This has been a rough week, but the fever has broken.
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Thank God.
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Yeah.
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Everything is fine now.
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Trump is back to his senses.
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Everybody who's saying that like he's going to stick to his guns on this and be like,
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Hey, all of you people who care about Epstein, I don't want you as my followers anymore.
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Wow.
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That's fake news.
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That's bullshit.
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And they're reporting Maga starts to move on from Epstein drama as Trump digs in.
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That's old news from yesterday.
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That's not true.
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The Democrats hope Trump quote moves on with the cover up because it'll be so devastating.
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As Steve Bannon said, he could lose up to 40 seats in the house in the midterms.
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And you see Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson at TP USA and.
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Turning point events and.
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They say, how many of you want Trump to not release the Epstein information?
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Boo, none of us.
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No, no.
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How many of you want him to release it?
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Oh, yeah.
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Just.
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People.
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Want the truth.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, Hey, everything's good.
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Everything's good now.
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We're cool.
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Um, anybody who says that Trump is, you know, hours away from tweeting that his followers
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who care about Epstein are losers and should shut the fuck up and go support someone else.
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They're they're liars and they don't know what they're talking about.
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Cause Alex knows everything.
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Yeah.
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And he's seen crowds cheer and boo.
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So he knows, I mean,
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he's seen a tweet about Laura Trump suggesting that there's going to be a special counsel.
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So everything is fine.
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There are worse polling methods than everybody wants this and nobody wants not this.
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That's true.
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Although it's clearly not indicative of what Trump is going to do.
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No, that does seem to be an issue with democracy.
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So he was very non-representative.
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Thank God though.
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Yeah.
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That everything is fine.
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Um, boy, rhyme and reason have returned.
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Alex has proven right.
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Once again, everything is cool.
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Moved on.
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But going back to what you just saw from Trump a year ago on Epstein on Lex Friedman's show
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and on that Fox program, we're on national news.
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They put out the clip.
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I'll release it on the internet on Fox nation.
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They put up a full club where he says, except I won't release it all.
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There's a lot of innocent people been mixed in by the intelligence agencies.
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That's how they do it.
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Now he put a true social out Sunday saying Brennan and Clapper were in control of this.
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People go, Oh my God, it's even bigger cover up.
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Now he claims the files from them.
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It is.
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They were in control of it.
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They're not going to leave the bad stuff about them in there.
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People go, I'm confused.
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You know, you're saying Trump made a bad decision covering this up and now you admitting it's
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a fraud.
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Well, yeah, you don't cover up the fraud because then that makes you a part of it.
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You go to war with it.
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And Trump now gets that.
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So just watch.
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I'll be right again.
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This is really good news.
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And of course, liberal media is like Jones was against Trump on this, but now he's spending
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it wanting to believe something good.
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No, I've experienced the Democrats falsifying files on me over and over again in Congress,
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you name it.
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They're famous for it.
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My goodness.
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Do you not remember all of this?
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Famous by who?
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I just report the facts that we know are the most accurate.
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As we get more information, we'll add to it.
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But in general, we're pretty much always right now.
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We're going to go to break.
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They just came in to the Arkansas facility and they're engraved there with the info wars
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and the Alex Jones on them.
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This is a new limited edition dagger.
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He's got a dagger.
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He's got a dagger.
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New info wars dagger.
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And it's good for a stab at man.
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A dagger is such a great thing to have in this exact moment, perhaps in the Ides of
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a month.
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Yeah, they might end up somewhere.
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Someone's back.
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Yeah, I think that it is a great product.
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Hey, I mean, when he went to an ad, I was like, of course he's going to an ad.
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But then I was not prepared for we got daggers.
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We got daggers, baby.
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Daggers are in stock.
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So that's cool.
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That's really that's definitely cool.
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And I'm glad that he's so confident that he will be proven right and that everything is
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totally fine now.
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You know, sometimes I feel crazy because I don't understand what these people want.
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I have no idea.
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They want to sell daggers.
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You know?
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No.
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Well, I mean, the conservatives who Alex is talking to and the people who are being guest
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lit in this way, like all of us, but they get stuff and they are fine with it.
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Right.
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But in this one instance, I know what they want.
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And the other people don't.
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They want some heads.
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That's what they want.
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They want some heads.
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It doesn't matter if they like give them a few heads, put them on trial in four years.
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Say there was a technical blah, blah, blah.
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Everybody will be fine.
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It'll cost a lot of money.
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But these people are going to get heads.
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That's what they want.
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That's that is what a lot of people want.
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Alex wants heads or he wants to at least be like, yeah, heads.
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Exactly.
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But then he also wants to maintain Trump as a source of power, as a source of institutional
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power.
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Because that's all he's known.
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Everything that he's grown up with, the whole world is about that.
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The proximity to that.
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And so Alex, I think the relief that he feels and that he's expressing is like, fuck, we
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found a way that it feels like we can give some heads and we can keep Trump in power.
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He was trying to figure out what's the line?
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How do we walk this?
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How do we promise death and not be like, well, we got to throw Trump to him.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I think that he feels like he's found that and he has not.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Trump's got to do it.
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Trump is the only one who can say, here are the heads you've asked for.
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I get to keep mine.
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But he's not going to because that would be admitting that he has to give them something,
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which he doesn't have to do.
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No.
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He's not going to have to give anybody fucking anything.
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No.
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Yeah.
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He'll give Alex Chase's head.
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Absolutely.
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Art of the deal.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's exactly it.
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Cut his head off with one of these daggers.
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Oh my God.
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I love that.
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So the dagger.
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How good is the dagger?
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It's so good.
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I bet it's good.
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Yeah.
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I bet it's a good dagger.
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Alex spends a bit of time talking about how easily you can click it in and out of the
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little sheath.
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Oh, okay.
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Is it one of the, it's not like an assassin's dagger, like from the Prince of Persia.
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It's actually one of the hand-
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Oh God, that'd be great.
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Assassin's Creed wrist knife.
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Get that ring finger out of here.
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No, I, you know what?
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I have to tell you the God's honest truth.
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I didn't watch this episode, so I don't have a visual on this.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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But I love to imagine what it could be.
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I think it's probably just like a Bowie knife.
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I see so many like Skyrim daggers.
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Like I see all kinds of stuff in my head right now.
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We've got fun things going on.
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I think you should be thinking more boring murder dagger.
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Anyway, Alex is plugging this dagger.
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And we have one last clip here because he really clearly stops himself from saying Info Wars
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store.
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That's great.
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Your purse backpacker on your side.
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You can also skin a buck and run a trot line with it.
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Get yours now.
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Limited edition at zeealexshowstor.com and fund the second American Revolution worldwide.
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The limited edition Alex Jones Seizure battle dagger now available in full force.
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I need your support.
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You could not be more clear about your about to say info war store.com.
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But you remember, I don't get any money from that.
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That needs to be an entire animated movie of his brain flying that plane and the plane
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going down.
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Just pull up.
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That pause is there's so much in it.
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It's an eternity.
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Beyond that, I want to say one thing.
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And that Alex is a country poser.
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He's trying to sell this knife by saying you can use it to skin a buck and run a trot line.
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But a trot line is a fishing setup that mostly involves tying knots.
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He just says those two examples whenever he wants to sound like he's a hail Billy because
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they're from Hank Williams Jr's song, a country boy can survive.
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This is a guy who's wearing an outfit.
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He's a poser.
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Yeah.
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It would be like me trying to say that I grew up on a farm because I sang Toby Keith at
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karaoke.
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This is bullshit.
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You know, it is just one of those like if something works, people keep doing it.
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When you see people doing something, they're doing it because it makes sense to them because
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it works over time.
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Why wouldn't you pose?
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Everything he does is a pose.
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And it's always been more successful than trying to be himself because he's a piece
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of shit.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So there's more to this episode, but I thought that this would be a good breaking off point
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because Alex seems to be in good spirits.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Generally speaking, he's a little bit pissed off that Trump's so dumb he's chewing his
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foot off.
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Sure.
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But he's relieved that like the weight on his chest has been taken off by this special
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council announcement.
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And right around the corner is Trump tweeting, get lost losers.
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So when the fellowship, right, they made it to the the Mines of Moria, and then we got
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the whole speak friend of enter thing, and then the monster's coming out and it forces
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them, chases them inside the Mine of Moria.
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And they're like, oh, man, so good we're not being chased by that monster.
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The Mines of Moria, slightly more threatening.
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This is the act break.
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Yes, this is where we think we're safe.
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The Balrog is coming.
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But the Balrog and the threat that drove you into the mines are both trouble.
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Both trouble.
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So we'll enjoy Alex running straight into that brick wall on our next episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yeah, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
