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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
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I love your work.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes.
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We like to sit around to worship at the altar of Zlien and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your brain swap today buddy?
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My brain swap today is within the mail bag.
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Ooooh.
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Opened up this mailbag, what do I find?
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We got some stuff in the mailbag.
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Yes.
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So I'd like to thank, first of all, Sheridan, Mal and Lynn.
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uh, for, uh, sending us an old condom.
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It was!
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An old musk ox flavored condom from 25 years old.
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Yeah, it'll be cherished somewhere by someone someday, hopefully.
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Yeah, it's a sweet, the thought is sweet, uh, gift weird.
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Yeah.
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But it'll go on the mantle.
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Also thank you to uh, G and Serena.
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Mm-hmm.
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Sent a couple of, uh, what is this called?
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What is this kind of craft called?
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Uh, needlepoint or, or, yeah.
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I'm not, I'm not, your wife's the artist.
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I know, but she's the artist.
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I'm the guy who listens to her.
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But a couple of lovely little pieces, one of, uh, Celine and, uh, one with a quote of you
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saying you shouldn't have quotes.
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It's very, very good.
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Yeah, it's very good.
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Thank you so much.
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It was really, really bright in the day.
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, uh, the, uh, Lazarus project.
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My wife and I watch this show.
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It's called the Lazarus project.
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Does it have to do with a resurrection?
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Uh, kind of, in a way, but not in the way that you think.
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It's a, it's a time loop, uh, show.
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And it's not that great, but it's fun because they do something right with time loops.
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There's, there's the, uh, uh, like you can have a time loop and you can explore one thing
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and be like, oh, this is how it works.
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And time, time travel could work.
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Right.
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Or you get it kind of unwieldy and you've got like three or four going on and they don't
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really work together.
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Or you get like 50 time loop things going on and eventually you're just go, I guess I'm
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in.
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All right.
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I guess we're juggling them.
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Yeah.
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I'm not going to be able to follow along.
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So this is just, I'm on for the ride, you know, like, uh, did you ever see primer?
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No.
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Okay.
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It is like the, uh, quintessential time travel loop indie movie made by these two guys for
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$15,000 and it's got so many time loops and you kind of don't know what's going on at
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all.
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And then you read about it and people have made charts that show you what's going on.
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And you're like, I still don't know what's going on at all, but it's a great movie somehow.
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You know, it's enough because you just, you, you buy in.
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Yeah.
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It's enough to be like, all right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's all, it's almost like if you see someone juggling like one or two chainsaws, you're
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like, how's he doing that?
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But if you got like 10, there's like, fuck it.
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You're a God.
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I don't know what you are.
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I'm not even gonna question this anymore.
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Nope.
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Um, well that's fun.
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It is a show.
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Is it?
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It's a show.
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Yeah.
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It's two, there's two seasons out.
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Okay.
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But it's still ongoing.
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I think so.
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I think it's like a sci-fi show too.
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So it's got, it's that kind of, it's that kind of energy, you know, high quality production.
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It's just something like that.
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It's, it's got that like big idea, swing and miss sometimes kind of thing that the magicians
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had and the, yeah, it was great.
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It was fun.
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I'm glad you're enjoying that.
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Maybe I'll check it out.
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Uh, but I'm busy with the challenge.
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That's true.
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Me too.
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Shout out to that unwieldy fucking cast they have this year.
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Oh, it's gonna be nuts.
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We talked about that on the, on the last episode that the new season has started and we went
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in totally cold.
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Woof.
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Mistake.
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Mistake.
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I should have read up on it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So many people.
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You need lore.
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I do.
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And they're from places like, well, my wife is like, oh, that's that show.
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And I'm like, ah, get this place out of here.
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Yeah.
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We got a couple of people from Survivor on this season and one I know and the other,
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I can't remember.
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But yeah, so once I'm done with that, I'll get right to the Lazarus.
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Take your time.
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Take your time.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about July 9th, 2025 as the situation with Trump's coverup
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of the Epstein conspiracy is falling the fuck apart.
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Yep.
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Alex is reaping the harvest of not saving Gene Hackman.
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The United States is still in an active civil war and the world is falling apart everywhere.
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Yeah.
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So let's see how Alex deals with that.
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Would you say that the Trump thing with the Epstein has given kind of an armistice for
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the civil war?
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Maybe, maybe a ceasefire for the civil war?
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In the same way that talking about the Minnesota lawmakers is not as important for Alex.
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Sure.
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Or any number of conspiracies.
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Yeah.
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It's not so much there's an armistice as there is like a, it's drawing a lot of attention.
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Fair enough.
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And Alex is definitely going to have to wrestle with that on this episode.
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I believe that.
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So we'll check in on that, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some
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new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, greetings from Ben in the UK.
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And also I need to know Dan's thoughts about Jason Manczukas on Taskmaster now that season
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19 is wrapped.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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But series 19, but UK dork.
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What the fuck just happened?
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I was trying to bring some Jason Manczukas energy.
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You're getting your ass kicked in Scotland next time we're out there.
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Bring it.
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Yeah.
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I thought it was good.
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I thought he was, he fit in well.
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The cast as a whole was, was a good balance.
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They were great.
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He was doing his thing.
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He was very much doing his thing.
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Yeah.
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Some of it seems a little bit forced sometimes.
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The agroness, but it works for him.
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Yeah.
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And it's very funny.
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Yep.
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So I enjoyed it.
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Yep.
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Next, my wife wants you to know that because we listened to knowledge fight at 1.5 speed,
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Jordan sounds like he says I'm jort and she refuses to call him anything else and loves
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his exasperation.
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Love you, Memily from your wife Weaver.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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From jort.
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And thanks to please support your local roller derby team, Scarbuck.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Uh, and we got a second credit next, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to shout out to Molly Conger from the weird little guys podcast
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who recommended this year's show, which led me to growing a hyper fixation on it.
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Thanks for that.
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Genuinely much love from the Czech Republic.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone.
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Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Um, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you.
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That's you know, what's fun about that.
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That's we take that for granted.
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You know, the internet allows things like that to happen because when I was growing
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up, the only person in America who the people in Czech Republic knew was like Michael Jordan
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and shit, you know?
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And for some reason we're just there.
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The internet's amazing.
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And maybe like Bugs Bunny.
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Sure.
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And they were both in Space Jam.
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But they have to be the most huge, you know, like, and we can just people just know us.
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Yeah, that is very neat thing about the internet.
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A little overwhelming at times.
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But yeah, real cool.
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Big up Molly also.
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Absolutely.
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So this, this episode is a real twist.
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Okay.
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There's a real sort of web.
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Okay.
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Up till this point, we have had a situation where Alex is like, well, Trump made a deal
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with the globalists.
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You know, he's going down this path or maybe he's going to use this Epstein blackmail.
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Sure.
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Today, today is a departure.
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Okay.
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But I also have an out of context drop that I think is very funny.
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That's one problem with conservatives is we don't know how to complain enough.
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Yeah, that's the problem.
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Yeah.
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I've, I've experienced that a lot in my life.
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Too much restraint.
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Not enough conservative complaints these days.
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Yeah.
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Our grievance economy doesn't complain enough.
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Boy, I remember listening to four hours every morning of my dad in rush Limbaugh.
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That's great.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think down the road we have heard in this second term for Trump, Alex has given
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a lot of scores out of a hundred.
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Yes.
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Do you remember some of these?
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I believe one was well over a thousand out of a hundred.
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Yeah.
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Regularly I've experienced him at the 150 out of a hundred mark.
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A lot of it is over what's possible.
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Very rarely have we stayed, have we stayed within the traditional 100 point scale.
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Yeah.
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When he's tried to show like some, like, uh, got some questions about Trump, it's been
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like, he's almost at 200.
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Yeah.
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He's like a 190.
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Yeah.
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Even, even when we're unhappy, we're all exceeding expectations beyond reasonable abilities.
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We might be closer to reality now.
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It is July 9th, 2025 on this live Wednesday edition, we're entering the 170th day of the
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Trump administration that we had hoped would be the rebirth of the American Republic and
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the West.
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And still, I would say 90% of what he's doing is good.
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But six months ago, it was 98% that a few months ago it was 95% in my dead reckoning.
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And now we're moving down about 90%.
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So a turn into events and behaviors that is beyond troubling.
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That is troubling.
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You're using real percentages.
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Yeah.
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That's dangerous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, at this rate next month we might be down to like 87, 86.
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Yeah.
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But you know, even then with those percentages, I feel like it's, it's similar to the, like,
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you know what, 90% of the time, this guy's great.
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Love this guy.
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The other 10%, you know, when you're a vampire, you eat people.
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It's a real problem.
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That 10%, it is a real problem.
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That 10% implicates the other 90.
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Might make the other 90 not so important at all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's also not real numbers.
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Like, I don't know what it means that 90% like, you know, that possession is nine tenths
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of the law.
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That kind of thing.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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This weird saying that means nothing.
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That's an interesting way of describing our government right now.
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Yeah.
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Nine tenths of the Trump is good.
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No?
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So Alex, I think what he wants is like, all right, this Epstein shit's bad, but it's not
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on us.
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This isn't our fault.
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Is that possible?
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I think he wants it to just be like, let's see if we can isolate this.
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All right.
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So whereas some of the behaviors of Trump, like the Epstein file, gaslighting, whitewash,
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firestorm, whereas that is extremely frustrating and extremely dangerous.
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At the end of the day, it doesn't matter because our global awakening in the United States
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is the epicenter of that is exponential and is unstoppable.
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Unless it will almost release some super virus or have a nuclear war.
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And even that in the end, they'll be defeated as people know they're behind it.
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So Alex wants to try and create this image that this is just one thing.
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This doesn't taint the rest of what we are.
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Our movement that whitewashed and brought to power this guy who could be involved in
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an Epstein cover up.
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The fact that we were that gullible doesn't mean that we would fall for the Antichrist
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or something.
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Oh boy, I feel like that is exactly what it means.
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Like to a T, this is about as close to the Christians are going to fall for the Antichrist.
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You know it.
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You know they will.
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It's in the book.
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Yeah, if you spend 10 years following a false Messiah, I think you probably have no credibility
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when it comes to like, hey, look, our judgment's good except for this.
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Where does deals with the devil fall on sunk cost fallacy situation?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like that's what we're finding out.
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We're learning where the line is.
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Right.
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So Alex talked to some of his sources behind the scenes.
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He got some more information about this, right?
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And it turns out this might just be Israel.
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Now I've had some time to continue to research and talk to my sources about what's happening
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with the suppression of the Epstein case, not just a list of clients, the terabytes
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of child rape and the rest of it and the desperate damage control spin we've seen and my sources
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in high level US intelligence in the White House and in the FBI have said, no, exactly
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what you said on Monday is exactly what we know it is now.
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And that it is a war inside the intelligence agencies in the DOJ,
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not even so much between the Democrat NGO Soros wing, that's more and more on the outside
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and being dismantled.
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Trump's really doing that.
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But that into that vacuum has come Israel.
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Now, people are always saying Israel runs all our foreign policy and Israel.
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People are saying that my research has been
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factions and power groups and Israel's not been dominant in our domestic policies and
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has not been dominant in our global foreign policies, but has been steering the bus on
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the Middle East.
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But in this power vacuum and this global revolution happening, particularly here in the United
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States, Israel and the Likudniks are making a run at seizing control of MAGA right now.
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This is exactly the same narrative that Nick Fuentes is trying to pitch on Alex's show
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in the aftermath of Israel bombing Iran.
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Israel and Netanyahu were supposedly trying to brand any Trump supporters who oppose the
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bombing as fake MAGA.
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And this was a part of a plot to make Jewish conservatives like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro
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the image of real MAGA.
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Alex is just reappropriating the narrative now and applying it to the Epstein cover-up
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situation, which is shady.
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But this doesn't really make any sense.
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In the case of the Iran bombing, there's a clear split in teams.
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One side performs war with Iran, the other does not.
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It makes sense from a storyline perspective for Alex and Nick to say that Israel is trying
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to influence MAGA in order to marginalize those who are against the war with Iran and
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promote those who support it.
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But how does this work with the Epstein cover-up?
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Which side is which?
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As it stands, Trump's Department of Justice has said that there's nothing to see here
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and everyone should just move along, which is creating a division in the right-wing base.
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There are those who have said, I guess we'll just move along, like Charlie Kirk.
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And then there are those who have said there's no way we're moving on, like Patrick Bet
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David or Tucker Carlson.
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It makes sense that people on either side of this divide might consider people on the
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other side to be fake MAGA, but which side is Alex saying represents Israel trying to
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take over MAGA?
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I don't know what the point is.
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That's that you've agreed that, like we've established as fact now, or not fact, but
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like strong conjecture that Trump is in charge of the globalists, or at least has made a
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deal with the globalists.
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Yeah, he has the potential to be.
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Right, right, right.
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But what it means is essentially we're all in a, we're all at a table together.
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Me, Trump and the globalists are at a table together, making decisions together.
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The devil.
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Which makes Trump a globalist.
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Otherwise you're not in that room.
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And also the devil is there.
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Oh God.
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The devil is there.
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The real fucking devil.
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So Trump is in the room with all the globalists and the devil making decisions, which means
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if you don't like something, it is Trump's fault.
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Well, maybe, but maybe there's a deeper state.
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Now, we took care of the deep state.
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Turtles all the way down.
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It's a deeper state.
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Turtles all the way down.
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God damn it.
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Underneath that turtle.
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There's one more turtle.
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You know, I wonder, I wonder if, if we have, you know, like Snowden released all of this
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horrible stuff, but it didn't take anybody down.
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You know, it didn't take the government down.
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It didn't take the president down.
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If there is a CIA operative now who releases all the Epstein stuff and Trump is in it,
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is that potentially more likely to topple the government than revealing war crimes?
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I don't know.
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I mean, like, I guess it depends on what is there.
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Right.
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You know, hypothetical, like what is the information that's there.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, that is a bleak picture that, you know.
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Yep.
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War crimes in America.
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Not that big a deal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So like, this is not a good way for Alex to evolve the narrative.
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The whole Trump decided he wanted to blackmail the globalist thing.
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That was untenable, but it was a fine first effort.
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This is disconcerting that after he's had time to think the angle he's decided to go
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with is Nick's anti-Israel stuff instead of what would be so much more in his best interest,
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which is to say that Trump got a demon in him.
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Yep.
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It's fine.
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Demon, walk-in, clone, robot, all on the table.
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The only one that's not on the table is this is actually Trump.
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Yeah.
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And David Icah's proof of concept that, like, it's possible to not destroy your entire career
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by being like, nah, fuck this guy.
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Nope.
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Fuck this guy.
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You can speak, like, not truth, but you can speak something that power doesn't like.
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Right.
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And not be squashed.
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What I don't understand truly is, like, right now is just the perfect time to be like, no,
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we were right about Trump.
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He's been killed and replaced by a robot or a clone or whatever you like.
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Perfect.
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Just we were right about everything, but there was a demarcation point where this is no longer
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the Trump that we were talking about.
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So we can all, without guilt at all, move on from our terrible decisions and mistakes.
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Yeah.
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And somehow, like, look, we did everything we could, but the defense shields for demons
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dropped momentarily.
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Totally.
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Maybe because of the no kings protest or something.
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Make it the left's fault.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Who knows?
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Or we just made a miscalculation and then the blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has a piece of news that I think that if he actually believes what he's reporting,
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he should be, like, taking up arms.
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Okay.
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And I'm just going to lay out the facts here about this Epstein gaslighting coverup whitewash
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that went from being a very dangerous fiasco Sunday into Monday with the DOJ memo that
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got leaked like a fart in church.
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They didn't want attention to it.
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But the Epstein case is closed.
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And then, of course, on Monday, the White House confirmed the DOJ.
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No, that's a real memo.
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And it said Epstein acted alone.
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He wasn't a human trafficker.
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There was no blackmail operation, and he killed himself.
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Now, already, when they killed Epstein and covered this up over the last 15 years and
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killed him four or five years ago, it has already been a firestorm of firestorms because
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of the Streisand effect.
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We don't know what the Streisand effect is.
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Barbara Streisand built this giant mansion on the beach, and she didn't want people
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talking about it.
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And when a local reporter talked about it, she attacked them.
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So then it got picked up by the international press.
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It was a giant story.
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And so by coming out and saying, actually, everything we told you in the past isn't true,
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there aren't 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, there aren't all these new flight logs
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and blackmail.
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Forget about it.
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Go to sleep.
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It went to a whole nother level.
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This is the big issue the general public finally understood the deep state through.
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And then when Trump came out in that press conference yesterday at about 1130 Central,
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we'll play the clip again, and got visibly upset about it, he was in the middle of a
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terribly angry and then attacked the reporter, basically said, you're standing on the graves
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of dead kids because they just been talking in a free for all discussion about the tragedy
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in the Texas Hill country.
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And I mean, that was a very unfair attack on a reporter that asked a really good question.
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And so the story went from mega massive to ultra massive.
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And so now behind the scenes, and a lot of big reporters have talked about it, but the
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others that's happened to, they've had the FBI call them up.
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That's given them information in the past as a source, and said, you're going to be cut off.
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If you don't stop talking about this.
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Okay, so the FBI is threatening journalists to stop covering this.
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I feel like Alex should be like, this is a red alert.
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So for me, the red alert is Alex saying that he was being unfair to a journalist, which
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is wild.
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Yeah.
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What is he saying?
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Trump, the guy who yells about how all reporters are the enemy of the people and all this stuff.
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Yeah, this one time Trump's being unfair.
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Do you remember whenever he made fun of the guy who was disabled?
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Fucking hell.
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Yeah, Trump's been historically quite unfair.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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To journalists.
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That was a really unfair response to what seems like a reasonable question.
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Yeah, not cool.
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Not cool.
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But the FBI calling and threatening to cut off all access to everything in case you...
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You know, that's fairly normal though, right?
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It's so dumb for Alex to just be like, well, this is just something to talk about.
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No, you're supposed to be getting your battle rifles and shit.
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Like, this is what you're made for, man.
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I mean, to bring it back, this reminds me of the movie Enemy of the State, starring
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Gene Hackman.
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We should have listened.
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Alex should have listened as well.
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This all goes back to Hackman.
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It's all about Hackman.
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It's all about Hackman.
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We missed it.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So I think that if Alex believes this, he should be taking it far more seriously than he is.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think it's kind of a little bit light.
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And that makes me not believe him.
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I have a question.
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And I think I know the answer to this, but I would like to hear your response to it, okay?
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If the FBI called, let's call them middle of the road journalists, the regular old working
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for CNN assholes, right?
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It was like, hey, I'm going to kill you if you do this stuff.
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Everybody would be like, this is an attack on the fourth estate, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Right?
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But if they're calling right wing journalists while Trump is in power, they're not going
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to talk shit, are they?
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They're not going to be that mad.
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They're going to be like, they're going to do this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is what they're going to do.
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They're going to be like, oh, we, our boss told us to stop.
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Isn't that weird?
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Isn't that weird?
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Yes.
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Well, but I think part of that is because I imagine this isn't actually the FBI.
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This is like fake weirdo, fake whistleblower types that like, they're who the FBI is to
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Alex.
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Right.
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So maybe these threats aren't coming from the actual FBI, but the presentation of it,
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the image of it is something that should be like a huge four alarm fire.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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You know, who cares?
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No big deal.
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I mean, that is, that I think really is emblematic of these people believe they work for the
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government now.
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And now like if I got a call from the FBI and they were like, don't talk about this
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stuff, I'd be off to Mooseport.
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Yeah, no, I'm out.
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I'm out of here.
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It's another Heckman movie.
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Welcome to Mooseport.
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Welcome to Mooseport.
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There we go.
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So Alex gets to some news headlines.
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This shit sounds bad.
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All right, so let's go to a bunch of these huge clips.
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Out of all the other amazingly important news we have new audio has been leaked of President
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Trump threatening to bomb Moscow and Beijing.
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If they invade any countries, Putin sends message to us with record 700 drone missiles
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in overnight attack on Ukraine, mainly targeting their capital Kyiv.
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Panic in Brussels, globalists tremble as patriots for Europe group will lead negotiations on
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the EU's climate target and ditch the climate cult global carbon tax.
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I mean, it just goes on and on.
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So this makes Trump seem like a horrible leader and someone Alex should see as a threat to
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world peace and someone who's likely to launch a nuclear war.
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So I think that really building a lot of scaffolding to.
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Yeah, turn this guy into a villain.
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Even worse, though, the idea that he would threaten that and we all know it's a bluff.
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That's a real bad leader.
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It's an empty threat.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, I think you'd have to assume it's an empty threat if the next headline is Russia
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is attacking Kyiv.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So what are we doing here?
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The president just gets to talk shit whenever he wants?
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Yep.
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All right.
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We have a world of shit talkers.
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All right.
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So that last headline is interesting.
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Yeah.
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A group with a name like Patriots for Europe is one that should make you a little suspicious.
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And as it turns out, this is an international organization of extreme far right and generally
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ultra nationalist political groups founded last year by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor
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Orbach.
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Great.
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It's basically an effort to make an anti-internationalist EU, which is fucking dumb.
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This is a group that grew out of the ashes of another group called Identity and Democracy,
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which included such winners as Germany's AFD and Marine Le Pen's National Rally Parties.
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Identity and Democracy was a group that came together in 2019 after the collapse of another
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group called Europe of Nations and Freedoms, which itself was created just a few years
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earlier.
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Right.
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Basically, these coalitions of extreme far right elements get together and form a new
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super group every few years, and then it falls apart because someone decides to get a little
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too overtly Nazi in their messaging, and they have to come up with a new name for branding
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purposes.
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Patriots for Europe is the current one, and we should start the clock on this name being
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abandoned probably by around 2028.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It seems like, you know, it seems like a good idea.
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Like, hey, let's bring all of our hate groups together.
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But then you're like, wait, isn't a hate group based around a lack of togetherness in all
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effects?
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Yeah.
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So then here we are.
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Each of us has like a couple seats in these bodies, and maybe we can work together.
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Oh, no.
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I hate you.
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Shit.
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I am a bag filled of hate.
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So Alex, for what it's worth, he's trying to get off into other topics, cover some other
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news, Trump threatening to bomb people and what have you.
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But you can't avoid the Epstein elephant in the room.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is like, I'm not going for this.
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I'm not going along with this Epstein.
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Ooh.
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What an insult to everyone's intelligence.
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And let me tell you, 95% of the time Trump saying something, it's true.
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I defend him.
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I do it constantly.
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My job is easy, but not now.
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And I won't defend this.
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Tucker Carlson says this could trigger and spark a revolution.
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Ben Shapiro, though, is in my view, I mean, definitely is from his actions, probably a
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Mossad agent, but definitely works for Israel.
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Always has.
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He came out and said Epstein didn't do anything, basically.
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And there was no money funding him.
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Don't look into all the other known Israeli operatives like Lex Westner and all the rest
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of them.
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And by the way, you're either for Trump or Alex Jones.
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So he builds the straw man classic intelligence formula.
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It's coming up.
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You're either with the crazy person Alex Jones or you're with Trump.
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And then he quotes CNN articles that are fake that my lawyers said 12 years ago in a custody
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battle that I'm an actor and nothing I say is real.
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It's not true.
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They never said that.
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So Alex is, I guess, just decided, like, OK, Israel's we're going to say that Israel's
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trying to take over MAGA.
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Yeah.
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High profile Jewish commentators in the right wing are going to be Mossad agents.
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And this is just like, OK, you're just you're just deciding that you're going with that
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branch of the right wing.
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You're cozying up to that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's pretty fucking predictable.
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Like, what was what was this wind up breaking apart on?
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You know, they're not going to blame each other for fucking up the very obvious thing
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that they fucked up.
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They're all going to find some sort of proxy reason to blame each other because it's all
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all your faults together.
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Yeah.
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And like what audience is Alex realistically going to chase after like this?
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When you need to make a pivot, it's not like he's going to be able to find some left wing
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leaning audience.
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Yeah.
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It's not like the rhinos are going to like accept him or want any of this bullshit.
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Yeah.
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The only thing that is available is probably like more extreme folks.
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I've been saying this for years.
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Yeah.
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And the indications are that when forced, when the temperature rises, this is the direction
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Alex is going to go towards the neo Nazi wing of the the right wing.
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Somehow they represent safety to him.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And I think it's really unfortunate.
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But at the same time, like I'm not saying people should embrace Alex with open arms
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to keep him away from the Nazis.
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That's not how it works.
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No.
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Glenn Beck's apology to her wasn't sincere.
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You shouldn't fall for it with Alex either.
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You really shouldn't fall for it with Alex.
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Yeah.
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So he just decides like I'm going to go against Shapiro.
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Shapiro's going to be...
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Shapiro mentioned my name.
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Yeah.
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And so we're going to war.
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Yeah.
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But she's convicted of human trafficking, but you'll hear Shapiro say, no human trafficking.
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Because they put out a two page memo and said so.
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OK.
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And how do you expect us not to sit here and go, what in the world is this?
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I got to tell you.
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I think they thought because Trump, you know, has so much support, has done such a great
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job overall and survived the assassination attempts on the law fair, that when he came
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out and said on and did all this, that we would just say, OK.
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But almost no one is buying this.
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And people are being told now other prominent talk show hosts, I'm not going to name them,
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though some are going public, you keep reporting on this, you're not going to have White House
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credentials, you're not going to get invited to Air Force One, you're not going to blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah.
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The FBI is doing that.
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Why would the FBI put itself in a position of total damage control?
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Because Boncino and Patel and Trump were manipulated by people telling him, shut this down, move
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on from this, knowing it would create a firestorm.
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And now the deeps table come and say, don't worry, we'll manage this, we'll control this,
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we'll start censoring.
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We can we can protect you.
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So they maneuver them into an unmitigated Shrizan effect disaster.
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And then out from under a rock crawls the discredited.
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Israel Firsters.
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Mark Levin and Shapiro and the rest of them.
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To say.
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Alex Jones just hates America.
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So this is tortured stuff.
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And it really makes Trump look like a total piece of shit.
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But it's important to understand that Alex's only goal here is to make sure that no one
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thinks that Trump was associated with Epstein and is implicated by his crimes.
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Alex has turned his career into an exploitative crusade against child abusers.
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And he likes to pretend that he was the first to cover the Epstein story.
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So the entire house of cards really comes down if Alex has to face the reality that
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the last 10 years of his life has been dedicated to shamelessly defending Epstein's best
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friend.
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Alex has claimed that he researched this heavily and he vetted Trump.
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So the idea that he could have possibly missed something so obviously disqualifying is a
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severe threat to Alex's credibility around an issue that his audience is actually hysterical
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about.
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Trump doing something self-defeating in terms of the economy, that's spinnable because
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the audience really only abstractly cares about those types of issues.
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But this one's visceral.
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Trump cannot be involved with the Epstein stuff because if he is, then Alex is either
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incompetent at vetting messiahs or he knowingly covered it up in order to sell Trump to the
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audience.
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Because it's so important to steer people away from that conclusion, Alex has to come
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up with these alternative explanations that make Trump look super bad but still maintain
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the game.
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He's still a good guy, but he was put into an unwinnable situation by the forces of evil.
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You got to understand they maneuvered it.
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You also notice that Alex is going hard into blaming Israel here.
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This is an indication of the desperation that he has to spin the story in a way that
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isn't damning about his own support for Trump over the years.
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And seen through that lens, like, it's all first of all makes total sense.
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And second, it's just like, okay, yeah, I didn't kill this guy because I was busy robbing
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a store or whatever.
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You're coming up with an alibi that is also really shit.
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No, it feels like in our lives, whenever he's been, like, if we call this a game of
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chess, right, you get pinned.
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You know, you've got one piece and if you move it out of the way to protect it, it's
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only going to get another piece killed.
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That kind of concept.
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There's no escape.
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There's no escape from this pin.
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Somebody's going down, right?
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But in our lives, we've seen him do that and he's like, ah, actually, but the knight can
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fly.
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Sorry.
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It's a flying knight.
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No big deal.
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None of this is real.
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It's not fifth dimensional chess.
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It's crazy chess.
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Yeah, it's cuckoo chess.
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Yeah, none of this is real.
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Also, the opponent is fake.
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He's not really playing against anybody.
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And I'm upside down in this one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And this feels like there's just, it's reality's hit.
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We're on the board.
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The piece is pinned.
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You got to do something.
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He's like playing chess alone in a park by his own rules and someone has accidentally
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sat down and is now playing against him.
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Oh, fuck.
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It turns out I don't know how to play chess.
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So Alex, there's a lot of people who have a lot of beliefs about Epstein being connected
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to intelligence agencies.
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Now, I don't want to say you're wrong to believe that.
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I don't want to say that it's definitely proven.
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Right.
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But the biggest piece of evidence that a lot of people point to is Alexander Acosta, the
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former secretary of labor that Trump appointed, who has made some comments about, or allegedly
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has made some comments about how he was made to hands off, treat Epstein hands off during
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the 2008 prosecution.
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Right.
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Back when he was in Florida.
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Which we all know because of the deal that he was given.
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Well, it's implied in a way.
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Right.
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But Alex, this is the big piece of evidence for him.
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Yeah.
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And so he plays a clip of Acosta that he thinks is going to be a slam dunk, nail in the coffin
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type of thing.
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And it's actually the opposite.
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Here's another one.
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Jeffrey Epstein's six story played out years in plain sight.
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Here it is right there.
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And of course, Roger Stone recently put out this tweet when Alexander Acosta, the US attorney
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for South Florida, who gave Epstein a pass on sex trafficking charges, was appointed
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secretary of labor.
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He was asked why he would say about his handling of the Epstein case.
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You've asked about it in the US Senate confirmation hearings.
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Acosta said, I'll tell the truth that he worked for the CIA and the case was sealed at their
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request.
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And here he is then being asked about it and saying he can't comment.
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Here's the video.
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One more question.
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Richard Lardner from the Associated Press.
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Mr. Secretary, were you ever made aware at any point in your handling of this case if
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Mr. Epstein was an intelligence asset of some sort?
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So so so so there has there has been reporting to that effect.
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And let me say there's been reporting to a lot of effects in this case, not just now,
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but over the years.
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And again, I would you know, I would hesitate to take this reporting as fact.
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This was a case that was brought by our office.
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It was brought based on the facts.
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And and I look at that reporting and others, I can't address it directly because of our
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our our guidelines.
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But I can tell you that that a lot of reporting is just going down rabbit holes.
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A few more questions.
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A few more questions.
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Have you asked a question yet?
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I have.
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OK, how about that in front of you?
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Yes.
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All right.
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So, Roger, you have been right there at point blank range.
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Oh, Roger's there.
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Oh, so it's painfully clear that Alex didn't know what was in that clip before he played
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it because it makes the opposite point from what he was trying to say.
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Alexander Acosta was Trump's choice for labor secretary in his first term, which is a strange
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choice because he was the prosecutor who worked out that sweetheart deal that saved Epstein
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from a ton of jail time in 2008.
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In 2019, a journalist named Vicky Ward published an article in The Daily Beast that cited an
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anonymous source who told her that Acosta had said that he was told that Epstein, quote,
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belonged to intelligence and that he needed to leave it alone.
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Ward has stood by her anonymous source, but Acosta has also publicly refuted this in a
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vague way in that clip that Alex just played and in a much more direct way when he spoke
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with the Justice Department Office of Professional Responsibility in 2020.
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It may well be the case that Epstein had some connections to intelligence, but Alexander
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Acosta's alleged comment doesn't do a good job of proving that.
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But it's good enough for Alex, and he's very incurious, so he doesn't seem to even consider
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that it's possible that the clip that he's about to play is Acosta saying that Epstein
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wasn't intelligence.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Also, Alex needs to cut off Roger.
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Regardless of the path that Alex chooses to go down, Roger is no good for it.
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If he wants to become less extreme and more like a libertarian type, Roger's way too
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loyal to Trump to make that pivot with him.
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If he wants to lean into the anti-Semitism thing and swing with Nick Fuentes, Roger isn't
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going to go along with that because he knows that's a dead end.
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Whatever Alex does now, he needs to put on his big boy pants and stop taking Roger's
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call.
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There's nothing, yeah, there's nothing to do there.
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That well is gone.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you can't, listen, and you know what?
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I think it's totally reasonable for Roger because nothing Alex does can compete with
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getting a pardon.
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Nothing.
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Mm-hmm.
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There's nothing that you can do that's like, oh, well, I saved you from years of jail time.
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Nope.
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I'm in Trump's back pocket because he pardoned me.
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Yeah.
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It's that simple.
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There's something also really weird that Roger does bring up, and that is that he says that
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he reported this Acosta quote in his book, The Clinton's War on Women, which came out
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in 2015.
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Roger reported it.
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Right.
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He says that.
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Okay.
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And then this Vicky Ward article is in 2019, which is later.
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So that would have, it would strongly imply that maybe Ward's anonymous source is Roger
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Stone.
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But I'm not sure exactly what is in his book.
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And I think that might be also him fudging some details.
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But whatever the case, it's a little bit less concrete.
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The Acosta angle on this is a little bit less solid than Alex wants to make it.
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So Roger is in, and of course, his take is Trump's fucking cool.
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Obviously.
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He's great.
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He's the best.
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Problem is that Biden destroyed evidence.
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That sounds true.
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Jeffrey Epstein was charged in Manhattan with two crimes.
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Count one was sex trafficking of minors, violation of 18 US Code 1591, and conspiracy
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to commit sex trafficking of minors, violation of 18 USC Code 371.
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But those grand jury testimony is sealed.
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Also, the search warrants are sealed.
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Pam Bondi can clear the air here by directing the US attorney, the acting US attorney, the
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interim US attorney in the Southern District of New York, to go into federal court and
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ask the court to unseal those documents.
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They didn't indict this guy without evidence, and the evidence has to be within those documents.
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When Cash Patel and Dan Bongino tell you they don't have the evidence, they're not lying.
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The evidence was destroyed by the previous administration.
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They can't give you what they do not have.
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But the court has this information, and they should move aggressively to ask that it be
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unsealed.
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That's a great point.
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So Alex says that this is a great point, but I'm not sure that he realizes that this completely
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contradicts everything he's been saying since this story broke.
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The narrative is incompatible with Alex's coverage, where he's like, they made a deal
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and all this stuff.
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But Alex can see like, oh, that could work.
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Roger, you might be onto something here.
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We could say that Biden just destroyed all the evidence.
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That would be insane.
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But they also didn't destroy the stuff that's in these warrants.
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Yeah, come on.
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Come on, man.
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They did like a half cover up.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That makes sense.
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It's the person seeing the light.
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Like the, ooh, there's my escape hatch.
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I can maybe do this.
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No, buddy, you're in the movie The Descent.
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You ain't getting out of there.
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There's monsters.
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You've already committed a lot to this narrative that you're building.
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You can't go along with Roger on this one.
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Too late.
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Too late.
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You blew it.
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Part of the reason is because Roger's story feels good for a second.
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Yeah.
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But there's also like, why did Trump like lash out at that reporter then?
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Like what's going on?
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This doesn't make sense, Roger.
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He's got, it's such a great, oh, no, what are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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This might work with another employee at InfoWars, but Alex is like, what do we do?
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Come on, buddy.
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But I overall agree with what you're saying here.
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My big concern is who is advising?
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Who is coming up?
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Who advises the advisers?
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Why is it good to have Bongino and Patel and and and and Pam Bondi and now Trump going
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out and contradicting stuff that they said in the last few years, the last few months?
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If if if U.S. intelligence is involved and they've hidden most of the evidence,
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destroyed it, and Trump wants to move on and try to save the economy and stop the current
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human trafficking, why not just say that?
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Why freak out on reporters?
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Why come out and wag their fingers at people and say you need to stop talking about this?
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I mean, anybody knows that if you tell people don't look into something or don't talk about it,
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I mean, that that is going to have the exact opposite effect.
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So great advice.
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Hey, you've got, you know, him being indicted in New York, you've got the court case.
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There's the evidence there of the human trafficking.
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How can Ghislaine be in jail for human trafficking?
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But now this new memo says that there is no human trafficking.
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I mean, this is just preposterous.
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What else should Trump do?
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I think he has to make a clean abreast of it.
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I suspect this is speculation.
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I'm not going to say this on the air, but don't you think the Israelis, the Brits, the Saudis,
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everybody else who has dirty laundry here is saying to Trump, you know, this is we can't
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have this out.
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This is very problematic for us.
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At the same time, he's trying to negotiate a peace deal and avert World War Three.
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I said yes on my part.
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I haven't talked to him about this.
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No, there's no doubt that's what's not a guess.
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Obviously, the entire establishment would come down.
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And and and so all these allies are bare minimum begging, you know, especially the British
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do not release this.
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I think that's a no brainer.
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Why then come out and slap people around and say, stop asking questions?
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You know, I'm not sure.
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You know why presidents got larger things on his mind at the moment.
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One of my favorite things is I'm not going to say this on air, on air, on air.
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Oh, my God.
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You can see that Alex desperately wants to accept Rogers spin, but there's just that
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sticking point that it doesn't make sense.
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Why are Trump and the people around him lying and changing their stories if this is just
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a situation where Biden destroyed the evidence?
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Roger's story doesn't deal with Trump's very suspicious response.
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And Alex is like asking him to help just help with that cover over it.
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And the answer Roger gives is essentially that Trump doesn't want to upset the establishment.
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The international deep state would be severely impacted by Trump releasing this information,
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which he doesn't have anyway, because Biden supposedly destroyed it.
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So even if Biden hadn't done that, Trump couldn't just put this stuff out.
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That might take down the establishment.
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This highlights a big difference between Alex and Roger.
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Alex is an idiot and thinks he's fighting for against the establishment, but really
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he's just flailing around and trying to beat up immigrants.
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Roger is fundamentally a huge fan of the establishment.
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He just wants power within it, which he's achieved in part by tricking anti establishment
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people into being his mob, which is what he does.
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They've paid him a lot of money over the years.
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Yeah.
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The establishment loves Roger.
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Yeah.
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Roger wants nothing more than to maintain that establishment and be powerful in it.
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Alex thinks, like, I've waged this crusade against the deep state and all this stuff.
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And now he's faced with a situation of like, okay,
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why isn't Trump doing this thing that we really want him to do?
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And his mentor is a guy is like, that would ruin the deep state, man.
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Like, okay.
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So for a lot of stuff, you know, that people live within, you know, that like, this is
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right or wrong or all that stuff.
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Reasons can alter people's perception of how right or how wrong there can be things where
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it's like, well, maybe this is this, but maybe we're not over here.
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And you don't know all the details and you don't know what this person is going through.
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But sometimes you pass over into a place where you may or may not have accurate details.
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You may not know all the details, but no matter what you do, you're not going to change the
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fundamental reality.
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And that is, you all know what's happening here.
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At least you're worried about what, you know, you know that something is amiss.
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No matter what details come out, they will not reinforce the things are going to be fine
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with this guy.
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Yeah.
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You know, for your ideology and your worldview that you've built up, there's going to be
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problems.
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If there was going to be a, no, actually we didn't do this.
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It would already be out.
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Most likely.
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And I think that like, you have to be like, there has to be a like rock bottom type moment.
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Yeah.
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When you're sitting there talking to Roger Stone and you're like, why isn't he putting
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this out?
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He's like, well, it would destroy the deep state of the establishment.
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That wasn't that our whole idea.
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That's why we elected Trump.
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We elected him to destroy the establishment.
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That was the point.
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And who cares about these allies in intelligence agencies and other countries that would be
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hurt?
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How could you possibly argue to Alex Jones?
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No, Trump can't release the Epstein files because there are some prime ministers in
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other countries who will be fired.
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Yeah.
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The globalists will get in trouble if he does that.
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Yeah.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Are you shitting me?
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That's your pitch?
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Yeah.
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Fuck me.
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Roger's just the bad guy all along.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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Here we go.
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Oh, Alex, you're so stupid.
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So Roger explains to Alex, Alex asks him about like, what about the left?
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They're doing all this violence.
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They're all mad at ice.
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Yep.
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Having protests and stuff.
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Oh, that left.
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And Roger's like, yeah, Trump just used martial law.
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That's fine.
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There we go.
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And Alex's response is thank you.
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There needs to be blood.
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Democrat lawmakers tell Axios that their constituents want violence and want to elicit a response
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from Trump so they can play victim, have a civil war.
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That's the Podesta plan.
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What do you make of this?
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And there are no kings thing fizzling out to a great extent.
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I mean, but it appears they're still trying to get a civil war going.
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I think they would be very, very unwise to test Donald J.
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Trump.
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You notice that unlike when we had the Antifa BLM riots during his first term, and he was
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persuaded to let governors make decisions about how to deal with that, as soon as you
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had problems in Los Angeles, he mobilized the National Guard.
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He also sent in the Marines.
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Those who think that they can mount an insurrection are going to see that insurrection crushed.
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The first responsibility of the president of the United States is to maintain order.
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That is his responsibility under the Constitution.
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This president has already demonstrated that he will do that.
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So those who are planning violence, they better think twice.
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Donald Trump is not to be trifled with.
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He will be a law and order president and he will maintain order and protect the American
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people.
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Roger Stone, StoneZone.com.
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Thank you so much.
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I think it's really important to understand how far Alex has drifted from the principles
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that he's supposed to care about.
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He believes staunchly in states' rights, and it's always tyrannical for a president to
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use the National Guard without a state's governor approving it.
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FEMA can't even do disaster preparation or relief work without a governor requesting
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it, according to Alex.
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Now here you have Roger telling Alex that Trump will disregard a governor's wishes and
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commandeer the National Guard and even send in the military in order to quell protests.
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Earlier in this episode, Alex was talking about the FBI calling journalists and threatening
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them to stop covering the Epstein story, which is a comical example of violating the First
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Amendment.
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Alex thinks that if Twitter doesn't let you harass people, it's a free speech violation
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worthy of going to war.
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But now the FBI can directly coerce the press, and maybe it's not a huge deal?
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Like, he's gone, man.
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This is nonsense.
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Just after Roger leaves, this is how Alex describes the FBI's actions.
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to do ever.
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Don't start acting like the Democrats.
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And whoever's giving the FBI the advice to do this, I mean, you're being set up.
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This isn't a fundamental violation of the freedom of the press.
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It's not bullying and intimidating meant to cover up a story about a human trafficker.
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It's just dumb and probably a setup.
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It's just dumb.
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This is dumb.
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Don't do this.
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I mean, you know, in terms of just like pure let's get rid of all of the realities and
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let's just go with what is happening from a broad sense.
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Historically speaking, it's almost never happened that an out of control megalomaniacal
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dictator when facing a challenge would wind up destroying himself in the attempt to overcome
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that challenge and keep people from seeing it.
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So any action that this megalomaniacal idiot dictator takes is necessarily going to actually
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lead to the downfall he's trying to avoid.
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Now, thankfully, there's almost no examples of that throughout history.
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Yeah, we're in the clear.
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Yeah, I can't think of any.
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So what's going on is just like a squabble between the Israeli intelligence and the U.S.
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intelligence about who gets to control this blackmail file.
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Yeah, what are we going to do?
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Hey.
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And Alex is like, I think Trump will be fine if he just shuts up.
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Yeah.
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And we know Israel is heavily involved with Epstein and the CIA.
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And I'm told by very high level sources that that's what this is, is an internal fight
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over that file between those two groups, U.S. intelligence and Israeli intelligence.
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And I think it's a Roman clear that's what's happening.
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So we'll continue to watch this as it unfolds.
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But for heaven's sakes, no more.
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Press conferences saying, shut up, don't ask questions.
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All you're going to get is questions out of that.
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And I am really, really trying to not get the Trump administration to self-harm here.
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OK, please.
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I'm trying to patch up the holes.
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I'm trying to make this work.
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Guys, stop it.
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Stop it.
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I mean, and they do not stop it.
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Like in the in the conversation, you know, you've got did you do this?
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Yes, I did.
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Oh, no.
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Or did you do this?
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No, I didn't.
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I don't think so.
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But it's your word against mine.
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You know, if you just give me yes or no, there's really nowhere to go from that.
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You know, I've got a follow up question.
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My answer is also no.
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You know, but if you give me like, actually, here's a 12 hour video with a minute missing.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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You've done far more harm than if you had just said, no, we didn't do it.
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Yeah.
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And I think that, you know, the answer that Pam Bondi has about that minute missing is
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that every night the cameras reset.
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Oh, there's always a minute missing, which is something that could be true, but is unacceptable
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in this situation, because also, if you want to say that it does that every night, then
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I guess the way you would prove that is release video of every night that minute being missing.
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Yeah.
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But also anyone could just take that minute out of other days recordings.
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Yep.
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In order to...
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You're trapped in a way that like...
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Never should have released that.
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You'd have to be insane to release that video.
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It's definitely like, even in the most benign circumstances where you are not lying at all
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about that minute that's going to be missing, you still have now shot yourself in the foot
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again.
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Like what Alex is saying, you're self-harming as a power block.
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Hey, listen, if there's anything I know, it's that the Zapruder film stopped conspiracy
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theories from happening.
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Yeah.
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So Alex does not get his wish of no more outbursts.
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There's going to be more.
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But for now, Alex, he seems to be fine to just like attack Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro
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and say that they're trying to run cover for Israel, trying to take over MAGA through the
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Epstein file.
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And then I want to talk about Ben Shapiro.
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This is a lot bigger than Ben Shapiro.
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It's about the methodology of how these disinformation operations work.
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And you know, when Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin come out from other rocks that they're working
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for Benjamin Netanyahu and they know exactly what they're doing and they don't want this
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Epstein situation looked into.
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Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin haven't been hiding under rocks and just popped up now to chime
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in on the Epstein situation.
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They both have daily radio shows that are broadcast on so many more stations than Infowars.
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Ben Shapiro runs probably the most successful right-wing media outlet at the moment, The
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Daily Wire, and Levin is a big player at Glenn Beck's network, The Blaze.
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They're huge.
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They're constantly putting stuff out.
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They pump out content all the time, and they are sure to comment on pretty much every topic
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that riles up Twitter because their businesses, they run on the same attention economy as
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Alex's.
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So it's kind of suspicious that Alex is saying that these two high-profile Jewish conservatives
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have just now come out from under their rock to do some misinformation on behalf of Israel.
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Yeah.
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I suspect that the reason Alex might have this impression is because that he doesn't
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necessarily see Shapiro or Levin's content regularly.
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He probably doesn't follow them on Twitter, and he definitely doesn't listen to their
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shows.
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I would guess that the only times that Shapiro or Levin pop up on his radar are when someone
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like Nick Fuentes is tweeting anti-Semitic shit about them, which would explain a lot
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of Alex's tone in this.
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Like, say, oh, they popped up again.
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No, the Nazis that you follow on Twitter are just mad at them at this point.
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Yeah.
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You're never going to get away from the, like, we live in this world now where you can turn
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and somebody's like, yeah, 50 million people love this.
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And you're like, I have never heard of that before in my entire life.
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Where?
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You'll never know.
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Okay, great.
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Yeah.
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And like I mentioned earlier, there are people who are like Charlie Kirk, who are going along
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with the, you know, the idea of like, well, I guess, I guess Trump said that there's nothing
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to see here, you know?
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And like, oh, weirdly, he's not the person that is being used as an example.
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Yeah.
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It's a very intentional, like, these are high profile Jewish figures in the right wing media
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that are being attacked because it's easier to connect this anti-Semitism that goes through
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Alex's right wing world with Israel criticism.
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I mean, it's never, you know, like, fuck it.
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Who was it?
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Was it Rahm?
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Like, don't waste a crisis, you know?
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Like, you've got this, you've got an opportunity to like, hey, maybe we purge some voices that
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are my competition and here's our opportunity to use this stuff and use this stuff.
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It doesn't matter what we do.
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We just got to get rid of them.
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Yeah.
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Horrible.
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So Alex says something along the lines of like, and I think this is probably a fair
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point, and that is we can't let ourselves be gaslight, gaslit in order to support Trump.
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Like he can't piss on us and tell us it's raining, right?
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We just can't do that.
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Where have you been?
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You've been under a rock getting pissed on for the last 10 years.
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Drinking all the piss.
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Drinking all that piss.
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You can't be in a position when they feed us rocks and tell us they're strawberries.
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There, I use the nice analogy.
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I didn't say piss on us and tell us it's raining.
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That's how I just did.
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Crap on us and tell us to love it.
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So just whoever's coming up with these ideas is setting up the Trump administration.
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And that's what Carl Serafin said on Monday.
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He believes it is because he understands how this works.
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And I agree with him.
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Again, Nixon was barely even involved with the plumbers.
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They did it on their own.
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He told them, go get dirt on people.
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The CIA was running them.
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Then they set up Nixon, who they hated.
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Then they got him through that.
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So Trump's busy and he's got his people running around getting all this bad advice.
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And I'm not defending any of this by saying it.
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I just know how all this stuff works.
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Roger tell you that?
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So what exactly is Alex trying to say is a setup here?
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I get in the case of Nixon, Alex is saying that Nixon didn't do anything, but he also
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told the plumbers to go get dirt on people.
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So I'm not sure what the setup is here.
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He seems to have, Alex is saying he did the thing that, oh well.
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The horrible reality that Alex can't allow himself or his audience to face is that the
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person giving the Trump administration their marching orders is Trump.
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There's no one setting Trump up.
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They just didn't think the conspiracy-brained audience would be all that upset when he tried
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to cover up their biggest conspiracy because they've gone along with everything else
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up to this point.
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It's kind of easy to see how Trump and all those folks would think this is no big deal
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and that the media folks would all toe the line and go along with this.
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They've done it every time.
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Trump is setting Trump up here.
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Or more accurately, Trump is setting up his followers who want to still pretend they care
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about the conspiracies that they use to get Trump elected.
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Trump's first run was full of crowds chanting to lock up Hillary.
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And then when he got into office, he said that worked well during the campaign, but
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he didn't care about it anymore.
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This is basically the same thing, except with the added layer that Trump was best friends
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with Epstein.
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Yeah.
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And there's some really shady there.
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Yeah.
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So it's just him trying to jettison the rockets again.
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I mean, it's just it's so hard.
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It's so hard to watch these people do this terrorist edging for so long and then get
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to this place where it's like, you know, all you need to do.
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There's just going to be a moment and it's going to happen.
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And then we're going to move into the next stage of our lives.
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But there's no escape.
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You're pinned.
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You're pinned.
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There's no escape from this.
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Yeah.
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No way.
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Even if you even if Trump escapes and nobody gets any consequences and yada yada, you know,
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the world is the world.
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There's still no escape.
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There's still no way for you to have an argument with somebody that doesn't end with, well,
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what about Epstein?
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And you going, yeah, what about Epstein?
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Mm hmm.
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That's it.
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And the whole thing is about arguing on Twitter.
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The whole right wing media is all just about who can argue the most.
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And it doesn't matter if your arguments are right, just that they're adjacent enough or
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angry enough to continue the fight.
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But if this fight is just what about Epstein and you go, yeah, what about Epstein, then
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your entire media sphere is done.
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Yeah, well, it's definitely threatened.
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Yeah.
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And Trump may not face, like, real actual consequences because he's operating in the
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sphere of power.
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Right.
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Whereas Alex is operating in the sphere of, like, attention manipulation.
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Imaginary power.
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Yeah.
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And a large part of what's made his game work is this proximity to the real power that Trump
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has.
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Right.
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But now he needs to give that up in order to maintain his ability to operate in that
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attention fake power space.
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Yeah.
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And so, yeah, he's just, it's a crisis.
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You have to pick one.
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The wizard's got to get up in the balloon, man.
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Can't hide behind the curtain anymore.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So why would Trump do this?
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Because he did it!
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Because he did it!
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God, it's so dumb.
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Why would he do it?
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Why would this guy who was holding a bloody knife right next to this dead body, why would
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he hold that bloody knife?
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That's a terrible idea.
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Why would he let someone tell him to hold that knife?
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It's a terrible idea for him to be...
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Bad advice!
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He goes to this dead body and then he holds the knife of the person.
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Ah, that's a terrible idea.
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He needs better counsel about what to hold.
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That's really the issue.
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Absolutely.
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And I'm just watching the Trump administration's self-harm and I'm just sitting here saying,
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you're the lifeboat here.
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Like we know the Democrats and the globalists are as evil as it gets.
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We know it's 90 plus percent Democrats and leftists with the Epstein thing.
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We know it's Bill Gates and all the rest of them.
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Why would you do this?
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And it's because they made a deal to roll over and stop opposing Trump.
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You can already see it.
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And they said, oh, just one thing.
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We want you to join in the cover up with us.
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So you'll never bring it out against us again.
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We want you to say it's closed and there was nothing there.
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And they give him a list of it.
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And then it happens.
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And Trump just thinks it's the right thing to do.
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And he's got so much support, he can do it.
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I mean, it's not like I'm not up here telling Trump how to cover things up.
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I'm here exposing the whole thing.
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But I'm also saying, who is it giving you people this advice?
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Because for heaven's sakes, if you're going to use the blackmail file in the deep state
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and you're going to do all that, then shut up.
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Don't treat us like we're stupid.
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Because we're not.
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It really feels like Alex is trying to advise Trump on how he should cover up this Epstein
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stuff by just shutting up and using it to blackmail Alex's enemies.
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Seems very emphatic about that.
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Yeah.
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I love the part of Alex's fantasy where the globalists have to insist that Trump's
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Department of Justice puts out a memo saying that there's no evidence of the Epstein
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trafficking stuff as if the government works on a no take back system.
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Like the FBI said this now, they can't possibly ever say something different later.
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What would happen?
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All smooth sailing.
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Chaos.
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This is an aspect of the narrative that sounds ridiculous and wouldn't be necessary if Trump
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just took Alex's advice and shut up because Trump keeps talking and saying really suspicious
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stuff.
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Alex has to try to explain that all the way because this is Alex still trying to defend
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Trump.
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It just looks like shit because there isn't a good explanation for any of this.
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Yeah.
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Like it's yeah, he's saying there's a cover up, but that's because the alternative is
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so much worse.
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Yeah.
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You can't you can't like knowledge of good and evil this once you have it, it's too late.
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You can't be like, oh man, if I didn't know this, I could totally still support Trump.
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I would have all of the support of Trump I need.
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So what if I just didn't know this?
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That's not how it works.
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You know it now.
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Too late.
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Yep.
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You're fucked.
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Get out of the garden, dude.
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The veil has been lifted in terms of what's plausible.
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Now here's my favorite clip that we've had in a long time.
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All right.
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Now I think there's, you know, there's some historical stuff that maybe people would argue
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about, but there's one glaring error in this clip.
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I'm going to play it.
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Mic down for this.
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I want to see if you catch it because I think you might.
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And they tried to kill Hitler in Operation Valkyrie and they failed.
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It wasn't the German high command weren't Nazis.
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Wasn't the German high command.
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No, they knew they'd lost the Russians by the more out producing weapons three to one.
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They knew the US was getting ready to invade.
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And so they said, all right, but they only get about half the German officers to be part of it.
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They wanted a new person to lead Germany.
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They thought, well, who's as popular as Hitler?
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Only one person.
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Rommel.
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The Desert Fox.
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And of course, right after they tried to blow Trump up in the Wolf's lair.
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With the explosive, they placed it up against the big table legs, so it was deflected and
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Hitler was hard to kill.
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They learned that in World War One, blow him to the wall, but he still got up, went back
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to work with his arm paralyzed.
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Oops.
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That's unfortunate.
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Sometimes, you can be like, ah, Sigmund Freud was a coked up lunatic who was probably just
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touching people inappropriately.
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But sometimes you go, that Freudian slip thing, he was onto something there.
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Yeah, Hitler was hard to kill, just like Trump saying, fight, fight, fight, and Butler.
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Hey, come on, we all misspeak.
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I'm not going to be the person who's like, this means everything, but it's funny.
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Well, okay, so we all misspeak oftentimes whenever we mix up words that sound similar
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or have similar meanings, or we intend to say one word and it comes out as the other
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word, so they combine together.
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And sometimes words do not sound at all alike.
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Like Trump and Hitler?
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Yeah.
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And the only thing that connects those two things is very suspicious that you would connect
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those two things that way as well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, like if they occupy a similar kind of role in your mind as heroic figures.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Weird.
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Weird, weird, weird.
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Strange.
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So Alex plays a clip of Ben Shapiro talking some shit.
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Sure.
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And I think that this is a weird thing because I don't care about Ben Shapiro, but Alex is
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clearly misrepresenting what he's saying.
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Yeah.
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But here's Ben Shapiro saying, none of you ever had any evidence.
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There's no evidence.
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Do you hear this memo says there's no evidence.
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There's just people in prison that worked with him for human trafficking, but that didn't
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happen either.
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Nope, your FBI said it.
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Trump said it.
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So you're either with Trump and Bongino or you're with that crazy guy who admits he's
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fake.
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Alex, when did I say I was fake?
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Oh, well, CNN said in the court filing, didn't say that.
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But that's what they do.
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An intelligence agency talking point.
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Here come the Israelis to the rescue.
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The bugle, the cavalry.
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Here comes Ben Shapiro.
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Here he is.
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We now have the answers.
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And the problem is this.
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People who never hedged their bets, people who never at any point suggested to you that
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they don't have data to back up the speculation that the speculation was in and of itself.
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The conclusion that if you speculate without evidence that amounts to an actual conclusion
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to an investigation, they're going to be very upset today because it turns out that the
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DOJ and the FBI have concluded that Epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide,
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according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios.
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Now, again, does this put to bed like all inquiries?
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Of course not.
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People can continue to speculate as much as they want.
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And I think there's still open questions here regarding how did Epstein make his money?
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That's a very serious open question.
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The speculation for a long time was he made his money from blackmail.
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But the DOJ and the FBI, again, run by people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi
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are telling you they are.
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I'm not telling you.
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They're telling you people who are members of the Trump administration, people you elected
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and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter are telling you that
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he didn't.
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In fact, he was not murdered.
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He did not keep a client list and he did not blackmail powerful figures.
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That is the that is the thing that they are saying, not I.
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They are saying this.
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If you're willing to throw that over and claim they're lying, then I'd like to see you present
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your evidence that they are, in fact, lying, because I know, Dan, I don't think that Dan
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Bongino is lying to me.
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I know Cash Patel a little bit.
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I don't think Cash Patel is lying to me.
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There is a stop right there.
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Back it up in five seconds.
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What did Patel say on Rogan a few months ago?
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He goes, listen, Joe, you know me, you can trust me.
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Alex should really listen to these clips before he plays them, because this is another example
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of one that doesn't say what he claims it does.
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It's hard not to see that as a sign of either deception or incompetence.
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And I hate to say that Ben is making a good point, but he's right in that clip.
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The FBI has said that they don't have the evidence, and it's not the FBI you can just
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pretend is run by the evil Democrats, because Trump is in charge and he picked all of the
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leaders.
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You're welcome to disagree with their conclusion, but Ben wants to know what your evidence is
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to disagree with it, and also speculation doesn't count as evidence.
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Yeah.
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I don't know Ben's track record on this issue, so I don't have any idea if he's consistent
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here with what he's always said, and I do think that he's full of shit generally, but
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that clip isn't him telling everyone to stop questioning the Epstein stuff.
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He's saying that you shouldn't confuse having questions with finding answers.
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Basically, Ben is saying that it's all the deep state type arguments.
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They're becoming implausible, since Trump's guys pretty much run all of the government
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now.
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The team you wanted is in charge, so you can take their word on this, that they have done
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the investigation, or you can decide that they're lying.
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Ben seems to largely have taken their word for it, whereas Alex desperately doesn't want
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to do that because it's not viable for his brand, but he's also not willing to deal with
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what Ben is actually saying, which is like, hey, you have a choice now.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, Ben is presenting the correct choice, and he's making the wrong choice, but he is
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presenting the choice.
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Well, they're both wrong choices, but Ben is more or less saying the power has made
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its choice.
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They are saying there is no evidence here.
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If you want to maintain proximity to power, this is the choice that you need to make.
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If you want to maintain these conspiracies, the burden of proof is now on you to argue
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that the FBI is lying, and that will probably drive you away from proximity to power.
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That's how it works.
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That's what you...
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That's...
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There's no other way to put it.
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What else do you say?
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These are the guys you elected.
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If you don't like their answer, it's your fault.
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How do you not understand that?
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I already chose.
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I knew they were lying about all kinds of shit.
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Why would I give a fuck now?
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I think that Ben is essentially making an argument about the dynamics of this media
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space.
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Yeah.
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That like, you have these paths in front of you, and you can choose your path.
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I've chosen this, and Alex clearly is wanting to choose the other, and he's gonna drive
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himself away from Trump.
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You're too far down the path, buddy.
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In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So I think that Alex really wants another story to cover.
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Yeah.
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Because we need to get away from all this episode.
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It would be nice.
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It's too much.
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Yeah.
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Well, now this report.
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USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to the infamous Wuhan lab.
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Yeah.
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We're all taught USAID feeds starving people.
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That's less than 1% of what they do.
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Doesn't even stand for aid.
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The US Agency for International Development reportedly shipped thousands of viruses to
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a Chinese military link bio lab in Wuhan.
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USAID sent 11,000 viral samples to the Wuhan Institute of Virology over the course of a
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10-year program under Obama.
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Despite not having any formal agreement with the laboratory, according to documents obtained
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by The Daily Caller, the viruses were reportedly sent from China's Yunnan province to Wuhan,
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the infamous epicenter of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic.
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So this isn't news.
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It's just slightly repackaging things we already knew in order to create some kind of
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exciting conspiracy headline in hopes of distracting from the Epstein story.
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Yeah.
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This goes back to a Daily Caller story that covers a $210 million contract USAID had with
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the University of California Davis, who ran a program called PREDICT.
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Part of the funding involved transportation of samples collected in China to the Wuhan
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Institute of Virology, which makes sense.
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The big complaint I can see in The Daily Caller article seems to be that it wasn't a US-run
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lab and it should have been because it was US funding.
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And I guess there's a small resource allocation issue people can argue about, but it doesn't
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prove that this is where COVID came from.
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I mean...
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It's grasping at straws and this feels fucking desperate.
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I mean, just think about the budget allocation implications of this.
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Do you not understand?
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Alex wants it to look like they're shipping in germs from Germany or something like that
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for warfare.
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But it's like, this is the closest competent lab to where these samples are being collected.
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Totally a regular...
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This happens?
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Not that suspicious.
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All the time.
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Yeah.
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All the time.
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You're just not paying attention to it.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It really just feels like, hey, maybe this will work.
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Well, people go crazy for COVID conspiracies.
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Maybe we bring that one back.
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Sure.
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It's...
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You're not going to get past the fact that you yourself have said, my guy is a globalist
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leader now.
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Yeah.
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It's like this Epstein story puts you a mile underground.
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Yeah.
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And you think like, okay, I can get up a foot with this COVID thing.
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It's like, it's going to take you forever to get out of this conspiracy hole.
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You are not Uma Thurman.
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No.
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And another thing that he tries is, hey, they're going to investigate Comey and them.
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They're going to do Russiagate.
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They're going to figure it out.
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Unfortunately, he has Kyle Serafin on his FBI whistleblowers on.
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And he's like, they're not actually going to investigate Comey.
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Of course they're not.
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And not only that, he's like, this is clearly an attempt to distract from the stuff.
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Anybody with a brain hates seeing this self-harm by the Trump administration.
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But since we talked on Monday, the consensus has formed that this is some type of backroom
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deal with the Mossad, MI6, the US, and it is too damaging to come out.
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And so now we're supposed to just stop talking about it.
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Well, then they should have just stopped talking about it instead of making it a thousand times
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worse.
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This is turning into the mother of all Streisand effects.
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You sent me some videos to go to as well.
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We also have reportedly a criminal investigation now launched into Comey, Brennan and Clapper
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during the firestorm.
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I was told four months ago and reported that there was criminal investigations going on
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by someone in the Justice Department.
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And so I don't think it's a total lie that they just did it to cover up the last story,
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but I think they reported it to change the subject.
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What do you know?
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You got the floor, Kyle Serafin.
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Yeah, well, first of all, it looks like a complete cover up with the with the announcement
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of investigations.
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The fact that Fox News is going to go out there and push their piece.
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And you're hearing them say that they're going to investigate Comey and they're going to
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go after Brennan and all this kind of nonsense.
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You know, unless they have a capital offense, which is basically not a realistic possibility.
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These are not prosecutable investigations.
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Alex, you know this, too.
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When they want to go out there and do an investigation, they investigate you, period.
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They don't tell you.
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They don't warn you.
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There's no press release.
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There's no like leak it to Fox News Digital so that they can go out and have a favorable
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headline when you're having a bad two years later, because Google gives you a notice that
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you've been under investigation or you have to respond to a grand jury.
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That's right.
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This is exactly correct.
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There's an indictment.
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You get subpoenaed and you're and you're made aware of it or you're arrested.
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That's how you find out that there was an investigation.
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This sort of messaging saying we're going to be doing it.
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And I love it when they always use the word probe for some reason.
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Probe seems to be like a like a Fox News word.
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But when you want to go out and announce that you're going to investigate, that is 100
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percent deflection, trying to get attention on something else.
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Please follow the shiny object.
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Follow the squirrel.
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Follow the laser pointer.
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Take your pick.
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It's it's not real.
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Ah, shit.
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Well, that's going to be that makes it more difficult for me to distract people with the
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shiny object.
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You have been.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Wait.
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I mean, I suppose credit where it's due.
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That was well dismantled.
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That was well taken apart.
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And I think it's also like it really deepens the conspiracy that Trump is involved in.
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Yes.
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Because now he's trying to manipulate the media through fake investigations and things
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in order to distract people.
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He's using the FBI to threaten journalists to stop covering it.
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Like this is a crazy story.
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All active steps you take are going to lead towards destruction.
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Mm hmm.
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Yep.
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Whether or not a passive nonstep will avoid destruction remains to be seen.
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Probably not.
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Anything you do only makes things more suspicious because there's only one thing that you can
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do to make things not be suspicious, which is not be guilty of the thing.
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And we can't do that.
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Yeah.
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The explanations that you need to try to use to explain the situation are things that innocent
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people would never do.
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Why?
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Yeah.
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What are you talking about?
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Crazy.
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They're insane.
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They're an insane thing to do.
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You could have gone to like the Waffle House.
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It would have been fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think that Kyle might be a fella who's getting in on the Alex will let anyone on
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or maybe he takes payment for a payment.
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Hey, it's possible.
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A playola, if you will.
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And I think that we get a little bit of them not being quite on the same page here.
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And you said it to me this morning.
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I told my wife because it was too funny.
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You know, they tried to release this thing like a fart in church and they didn't get
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away with it because it squeaked really, really loudly.
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And so the Streisand effect you're pointing out is obviously the case.
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It's totally damaging.
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This might be the as Tucker said, it might be one of the worst rollouts of anything.
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I think we've got a clip of Mike Howell talking about this is a class on how to not do it.
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Now let's go to that clip of this is a class on how to not do it.
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Here is the Mike Howell clip.
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You guys gave me that clip.
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You had it.
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You came in and gave it to me.
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Well, maybe we don't have it then.
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So that has Schecter energy that has Alex like this guy has his own agenda.
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He's brought his clips that he's going to make Alex play and we're going to do this
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thing.
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And Alex is like, didn't work.
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He's enthusiastic.
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His enthusiasm is infectious.
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You brought me the clip, but I don't know.
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I don't know if the clip is here or not here.
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You can play it.
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Whatever.
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Who cares?
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You don't you don't believe me.
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I'm alone.
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It does.
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It does feel like he just wishes he could fade into the background.
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Do I need to be here for this?
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You paid for it.
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Yeah, I'm happy to chime in when things are running smoothly, but you didn't get us the
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fucking clip.
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And so Alex seems to get a little bit more annoyed by this.
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Listen to me on this, because you just came on.
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I love our guests, but you'll send us a bunch of articles and documents two minutes before
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I'm not mad.
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The crew, all the clips, they just don't know who Mike Howell is.
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And so I'm going to go to my house.
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Just look here with me, Kyle.
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Let's go over the clips you sent.
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Let's just we'll produce here on air right now.
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A red shot.
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This is my house.
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Let's talk about the other ones.
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So these are the things you sent us.
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It's all very well.
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Actually, let me let me tell you that that one you just picked up.
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If you go back to the to the Washington Times piece, this is just just as inside kind of
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information here.
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The piece is written.
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It's not as important what it says that FBI launches criminal investigation.
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It's a scoop.
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What's important is the source and the actual writer.
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So if you'll notice the byline there, it's Carrie Pickett.
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Carrie Pickett is an I'll call her an acquaintance of mine.
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And she's the person that introduced me to Dan Bongino.
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So I know she knows Dan well enough because they used to they used to talk in the background
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and they connected the two of us together in the first place.
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So Carrie Pickett is a soft and friendly source for the FBI to leak this information.
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And again, I just told you that information is obviously bogus because you can't go after
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Comey for anything that's not capital.
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And there's no indication there's a capital crime there.
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So just that's the reason why that story is relevant.
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The headline is almost all of it.
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And the byline is actually as important as anything else.
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But the Mike Howell, in his own words, you know, he's an attorney.
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He's been around D.C. for a long time.
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He's worked in and out of government and in oversight now.
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It's it's a it's a useful clip if you guys want to hear people in his own words.
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Well, we do have the Mike Howell clip from the oversight project.
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He intelligent.
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This guy is who Mike is.
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah, sure.
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Sure.
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Who fucking cares?
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Mike is whatever you want.
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I don't care.
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Alex is pissed.
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That is a angry man.
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But I in interest of fairness, once they actually do play the clip,
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Alex gets pretty excited because it works for him.
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Oh, but but the process of this is torturous.
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I found a penny.
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Oh, my God.
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So, yeah, that that has all the fingerprints of a guy who's just sort of renting out time on his show.
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Yeah, this Kyle Serafin gets to decide what we're doing.
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Yep.
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We usually smooth a little bit of this out beforehand, but he didn't number the clips or something.
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So, yeah, it's a little clunky.
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Yeah.
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And he's coming in confident with all of his conclusions made.
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He's not coming in like, Alex, let's kind of work out some ideas.
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He's like, we know this is bullshit.
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Now, come on, man.
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Yep.
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And so Kyle actually does have a theory about how Trump could be have made this catastrophic error
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that somehow doesn't involve Trump wanting to cover the story.
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OK, I'm listening.
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It's not great.
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So why do they want it closed?
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I think that there's also a secondary piece of it.
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I think they want to close because they don't want to mess with it.
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And I think it's ugly.
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And there's a decent chance that Trump, you know, you and I may differ an opinion on this one.
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You think that he's using using the tool, if that's the case, that's the worst capability
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ever.
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Dancing with the devil, literally using the devil's tools to control evil people is a
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you don't bet on the good guys winning on that.
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So I I'm kind of hopeful that that's not the case.
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And I don't really deal in hope.
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What I do think is that these people were advised by the worst possible actors inside DOJ.
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And also the same thing in the FBI, like most of the middle management there are looking for a Dan
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Bongino to fail, looking for a cash Patel to fail.
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And so they're out there.
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Palmer's really set up Nixon.
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I think you might be right.
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I'm I'm 50 50.
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Now I think these people are setting them up to fail.
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They said this is not as big a deal as you think.
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Like all we got to do is talk about it.
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You could see this being down briefed, Alex.
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If you came in and I showed it this morning.
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Hey, President Trump, by the way, we shut down the FC investigation.
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There was nothing there.
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And he's out there looking at World War Three in Russia and Ukraine.
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And he's looking at a peace deal that happens in Iran and Israel.
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He's got a million things.
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He's trying to figure out whether or not he's going to have the same Federal Reserve chairman
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and so on.
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You know, he's got 20 things up there that are all high level importance.
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Someone tells him we shut down the thing.
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We didn't find anything there.
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He goes, great, no big deal.
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They didn't go, hey, sir, by the way, the people who voted for you that that really
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wanted that executive order are going to lose their ever loving minds.
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If you say that an elite pedophile was able to get away with it and that we are proving
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that there is a second system of justice in America now, rich and the elite and the powerful
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and the corrupt can get away to hurting babies.
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And nobody cares.
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If you told him that he might be like, holy crap, you better take another look at this
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before I go talk about it.
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Do you think that's what they did?
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I think they slow played it.
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They underbriefed it.
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And then he goes out there and he actually probably was surprised that people were asking
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about it because, you know, he's not on social media the way that the guys like you and I
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are.
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He's just not.
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Yeah, very well said.
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Well, yeah, Trump's just not on Twitter enough.
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You know, he doesn't get it.
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He doesn't understand how seriously people take this and how much of a betrayal this
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will be.
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If only he was on Twitter more, he would never have acted like that.
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He would have understood.
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Okay, so essentially he's boiling this entire thing down to like some middle managers in
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the FBI were sitting around in a conference room and one guy was like, 50 bucks, Trump
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says anything we tell him to say.
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And the other guy goes, I'll take that bet.
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Let's say that Epstein didn't do it.
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And they're like, no way will anybody, no way is he going to say that.
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You'd have to be an idiot to say that.
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That would take our bosses down.
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Let's do it.
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Let's try.
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All right.
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A gentleman's wager.
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Is that how that works?
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Huh?
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I guess.
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I guess it could.
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Yeah, middle management is really sinking everybody on this one.
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Traditionally.
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Which is convenient because Trump has appointed all of the people.
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Yeah, it's always nice whenever the nameless people are at fault who we can never find
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or punish or face consequence.
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That deeper state.
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Oh, those states.
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They just keep going down.
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Fuck.
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I do love the idea that a bunch of Twitter addicts are like, Trump's not on Twitter enough.
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That's why he fucked this up.
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I mean, yeah.
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He doesn't have the temperature of the people.
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What have we been doing for the past 10 years?
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I don't believe that this excuse can work because Trump would have to be so like, you
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know, they talk about how, like Biden can't talk and he doesn't know what reality is.
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Trump would have to be far beyond that to not understand how important this is to his
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base.
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I mean, you know, okay, so sometimes if you think or say something like, only an idiot
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would do that, then that is also a retroactive statement through which you should view the
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rest of the things that he has done.
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So if only an idiot would do that, perhaps the other things he has done were done by
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an idiot.
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And if they were done by an idiot, perhaps I infected the idiot.
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Well, even beyond like being done by an idiot, like this action that Trump is making does
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not change my opinion on Trump.
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This is in line with about the character that I have considered him to have for a long time.
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Oh yeah.
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And so I don't really need to update all that much.
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I think maybe it's a little more brazen than I would have expected, a little bit more reckless.
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But it's in line with his character.
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For Alex, it's not.
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No, it can't be.
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Yeah.
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This cannot be.
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Yeah.
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So that's why he needs the demon.
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Yeah.
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But sometimes when you say only an idiot would do that, you're right.
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There's no going back.
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You know how you become an idiot?
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How?
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Demon gets in here.
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You gotta go, yeah, you gotta go with demon, walk-in, clone, or robot.
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Yep.
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You gotta do it.
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There's nothing else to do but say that is a different man.
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Mm-hmm.
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I would even go so far as to say Changeling.
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Let's do Changeling.
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Sure.
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He's a tiny Irish child that came back wrong.
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Shapeshifter.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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There's a million possibilities and they're all crazy.
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Yeah.
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And Alex just needs to commit to it or else he's gonna drift into this Nazi territory.
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Yep.
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And then still fuck everything up.
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Think about how much more fun your life is if instead of going like, oh, it's Israel's
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fault, you go like, maybe aliens made a clone.
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That's a more fun life.
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Yeah.
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You can still very clearly signal on like a crypto dog whistling level to the neo-Nazis.
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Israeli aliens.
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Right.
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You can do that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But your life is more fun if you just get wacky with it.
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Absolutely.
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Because it's not going to get more fun any other direction.
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No, no, no.
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There is no direction where you're like, whoo, this is fun.
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Yeah, getting closer to reality is gonna suck.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip here and it's Kyle and Alex talking about how the FBI, it's being
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run like a Twitter account.
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And then Alex says some harsh truths.
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These are media guys.
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Patel Bondi has been around media a lot.
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She's been on Fox an awful lot.
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Bongino obviously as well.
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They're media, which means they're savvy, which means they know they're lying.
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They know they're trying to spin and they're being run by PR people, which is exactly what
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a senior FBI supervisor told me the other day.
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The FBI is currently being run basically like a social media influencer camp.
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And they're just getting moved by the Williams and the waves of like the public opinion.
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Well, I give the advice if they're gonna cover up Epstein, shut up.
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I mean, that's not.
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Yeah, it would have been the best move.
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All right, Kyle Serafin, very interesting.
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We just, we'll just move forward.
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Thanks for talking to us.
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Yeah, you bet.
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Thanks, Alex.
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All right, let's get Matt Bracken on.
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I apologize for getting him on 14 minutes late, but I had to finish up with that.
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Look, here's what's going on in my brain.
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All I can do with viewers and listeners is just tell you what I'm thinking because when
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I'm cutting around something, an issue, I know what I stand for.
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Second Amendment, pro-life national sovereignty, you know, anti-nuclear war.
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Actually stand on Trump's doing a lot of good.
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And then I'm starting to see some bad.
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And I'm kind of having thoughts.
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Am I spending too much time on this Epstein fiasco or not enough?
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And I think I'm spending a lot of time on it to get messages up to the Trump administration,
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which we know they're watching and the FBI, whoever's setting you up to do this stuff,
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you need to fire them because you're doing the dumbest stuff I've ever seen.
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You just saw the Heritage Foundation say this is a really smart club.
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This is the dumbest thing they've ever seen.
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That's what I've been saying since Monday.
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This is some stupid shit.
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Everybody agrees.
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Why is this so complicated when it is obviously simple and they agree with it?
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Yeah, just about everybody who has an opinion is that they all agree that this is stupid.
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It starts with you should have shut up every opinion about like where to go or what they
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did wrong and any specifics it starts with.
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All of these people go, oh, well, you shouldn't have said anything,
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which shouldn't fit within their character whatsoever.
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No, it's very suspicious for the conspiracy people to be like,
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they should have covered this up with silence.
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Absolutely.
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Which suggests you already knew.
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You definitely already knew.
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You already knew.
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So what's stupid is that they're putting what you already knew out in public.
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Yeah, and what's stupid is what Alex is being forced to do as an explanation,
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like pretending that they're getting bad advice and the Trump administration's being set up
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and all this stuff like that's dumb.
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And Alex is forced to do that because the alternative is so much worse.
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And his hand is being forced to do that by them not shutting up.
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They need to shut up.
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And Trump does not.
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It seems, it seems again, it seems so simple to me,
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like any political philosophy that keeps you from saying,
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yeah, I want pedophiles to be in trouble for that is not a good political philosophy.
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No, it's a, it's a, it's a building a house on sand.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, oh, what team are you on?
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Don't care if one of them is a pedophile.
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I am no longer on that team and I hope he's no longer on that team.
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Especially when it's not even just these crimes that are being committed against children.
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It is also that they are the cornerstone of a blackmail operation that is
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responsible for literally everything that has ever happened in the world.
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Every conspiracy traces back to like people being able to maintain,
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maintain their power through this.
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If Alex actually believes in that construct of the world,
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then he can't possibly be like, it's not possible.
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No, it has to be.
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We have to escape possibility and it's straight towards fantasy.
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Yep.
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And that's why this is the stupidest shit ever.
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It's got it.
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It's stupid.
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Yeah.
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You're playing in the wrong sandbox.
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You're playing in the what's possible sandbox and you got to play in the anything's possible sandbox.
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Yep.
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And that's, I think a large piece of it is the like, the what's possible sandbox
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is the one that is closer to where power can be.
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Yeah.
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Like the crazy nonsense, you're never really going to get close to institutional power.
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Right.
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If you're talking about aliens and walk-ins and all this stuff.
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You're abandoning your ability to ever really be taken seriously by institutions.
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Yeah.
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And Alex has come close enough to being able to present himself as like, I briefed the president.
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Yeah.
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And all this that like, he can't let that go.
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Yeah.
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He's taken, he's put on the ring.
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He's put on the one ring.
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No, everybody has made so many bad decisions to lead us to this point.
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All of these people agree that we should not be here and agree that they've made bad decisions.
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And yet at the same time, all agree to continue doing the same stuff.
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And that will definitely not be a problem.
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Jesus Christ.
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So we'll see how this deteriorates.
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I mean, we're a few days away from Trump saying like, I don't want you losers as my fans.
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I mean, so,
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Oh boy.
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Wild.
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Good times.
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What a world.
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Yep.
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So we'll check in on that, but until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
