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o.o

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HEY, awhile go follow da

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Udyr Rising

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g

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ex

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knowledge fight.

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And

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the money.

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Stop it.

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And the in Kansas.

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And the in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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So Alex.

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I'm a fan.

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I love your word knowledge

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knowledge fight.com

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I love you.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to knowledge fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex

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Joe.

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Oh indeed we are Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for ya.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today buddy?

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My bright spot today I'm gonna say is actually a fork in the road.

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A fork in the road?

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No that's the wrong metaphor.

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It's two pronged.

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Okay.

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The first is I forgot this person's name but they'll know who they are.

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Okay.

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He forwarded me an email after our last episode I talked about how I was sad that I didn't

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have a Switch 2.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Because I wanted to play Donkey Kong.

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Right.

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And someone messaged an offer to sell me one at retail value.

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They did.

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Because they had somehow had another one.

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Magic.

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And it was such a sweet offer.

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It is.

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You know.

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It is.

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And the message was about the feelings of like I related to what it's like to not be

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able to hang out with your buddy Donkey Kong.

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Totally.

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And it made me realize like I do I need to play this Donkey Kong.

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So it was a very nice offer.

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And that I really appreciated a lot.

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Right.

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So that's one bright spot.

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Yes.

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And then the second bright spot is I did not take this person up on that offer.

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Right.

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But I did get the Switch.

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Right.

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And I've been playing the shit out of Donkey Kong.

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Yep.

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Love it.

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Nailed it.

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I'm wearing yellow top and brown pants.

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Because of Donkey Kong?

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Is the closest thing in my wardrobe that I felt was Donkey Kong themed.

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Is that to record so you can get a little Donkey Kong into this episode?

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Oh yeah.

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Okay.

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Alright.

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Whoa.

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I don't know how I feel about that.

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Eat my chest.

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That may be a little too aggressive.

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I'm gonna eat a banana.

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I am not a Donkey Kong.

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I have gotten through a fair amount of this game but I think there's still a lot to uncover.

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I've found Cranky Kong and Rambi the rhinoceros.

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Who's your favorite Kong?

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Dixie.

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Dixie is your favorite Kong?

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Yeah I think so.

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Alright.

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What about you?

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Well I mean King obviously top of the list.

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That okay.

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Yeah.

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Well okay.

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Alright.

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How does he fit into the family?

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That's actually a really good question.

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The original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong.

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Right.

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You have to expect that because of the Kong moniker they are somehow related to King Kong

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right?

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They're giant apes.

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Yeah.

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The Kong.

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It's gotta be King Kong.

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So is King Kong the progenitor?

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Is he the oldest of the Kongs?

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I think it must be or at least like he's an uncle or something.

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You know like he's in the mix.

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Right.

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Somewhere in their lineage.

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Right right right.

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Yeah I don't know.

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I know a lot of their familial relations.

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I know how their family tree works but I don't know.

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I don't think Nintendo owns King Kong.

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Okay so.

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I don't know if he can legally be a part of the family.

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So he's brought over from Skull Island to the United States.

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Early what?

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Early tens early twenties somewhere around there.

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Put on display.

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Climbs the tower.

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Grabs the girl.

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Etc etc.

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Now are we saying that the girl and the Kong and now we have multiple Kongs?

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Is that what we're saying here?

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You mean like terms of like.

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Did they get married?

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Right.

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Yeah that's what I was thinking you were getting at.

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Yeah sure why not.

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I don't know.

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And that's how we get Donkey Kong who becomes Cranky Kong.

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I don't know.

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Who's your favorite Donkey Kong in the canonical the Donkey Kong franchise?

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I will tell you this.

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I think you don't know.

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My favorite is Diddy.

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And my memory of why is fairly simple.

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Playing Donkey Kong Country I would always wind up losing Diddy and he would go.

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And then you jump on the box and Diddy would reappear.

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You throw a barrel.

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Or whatever.

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You jump on a box to get Rambi or Espresso.

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Fair enough fair enough.

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Or En Garde.

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So you throw a barrel and then without skipping a beat he does a little flip and gets right

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back behind you.

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I don't know why that always.

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I always appreciated that a great deal.

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He's loyal.

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Yeah he's having a great time.

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He's ready to go.

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He was just like ahhh no big deal I fell on those spikes.

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I would always play it with my brother and I was always forced to be Donkey Kong because

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I was a big boy.

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I was a thick young boy.

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Sure sure sure.

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He was more of a smaller agile cool guy.

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Sure.

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He was more of a Diddy.

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He was a Diddy and you were a.

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And Diddy was cooler because he's the young guy.

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I mean you know it was the 90's if you have a hat you are cooler.

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And so I always had that.

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I always felt forced to be Donkey.

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But then I kind of made peace with it.

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Now you wear it as a badge of pride.

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But then the second game came along and we were introduced to Dixie and she could do

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a propeller with her hair.

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That is pretty cool.

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She could float a little bit.

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She's way too cool for all of it.

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But I'm enjoying the hell out of Donkey Kong Bonanza.

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It's such a good thing to be playing while I listen to Info Wars.

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Because you're just punching shit.

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You're smashing shit.

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Yeah.

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You're just breaking walls down and rampaging through.

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Fuck you!

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Yeah.

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Fuck you!

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It's very cathartic in that setting.

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Nice.

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So what about you?

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot?

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Tyler the Creator's got a new album.

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Okay.

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He's someone who has a very interesting career trajectory.

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He does.

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He does.

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A very strange one.

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I feel he's someone who I don't really know a ton about.

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But I feel like he went from horrorcore kind of stuff to much more artistic.

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Much more high aspirational.

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Yeah.

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I believe it started with Odd Future Wolfgang Kill Them All.

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Which was him and Earl Sweatshirt and those cats.

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And then he did Goblin which had that one song that everybody was like, ah, he's so

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scary.

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You know, that kind of thing.

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And then he did that for a while and everybody was kind of like, ah, that's kind of boring.

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Then he came out and started doing all kinds of different stuff.

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And everybody's had a great time since then.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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What's the new album like?

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Like, how genre, like, what would you describe it as?

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So he had a couple, so Few Albums Back was more of an R&B album.

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Yeah.

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Few Albums After That was more of a hip hop album.

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The last one I think was more of a rap album.

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I think this one's more like a just general hip hop-y vibe kind of thing.

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More hooks.

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There are hooks.

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There's a hook.

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There's some hooks.

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Great.

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I like that song, What the Hook Gon' Be.

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What is the hook going to be?

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By Murphy Lee from the St. Lunatics.

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I ask because he's a really interesting type of pop culture presence.

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That you say Tyler the Creator has a new album out.

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And I don't really know what to expect that is going to be.

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That's interesting.

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I think that's a really cool thing.

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I would take that as a compliment if I was him.

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Yeah.

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I feel the same way about when Andre 3000 would put out an album.

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It's like, I don't know exactly what this is going to sound like.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then it turned into a flute.

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Then it turned into a flute album.

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That doesn't always go the right way.

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And if you're going to do a flute album, you've got to call Jethro Tull.

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You do have to.

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You've got to call Ian Anderson and get it done.

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Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that album.

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Yeah, it's good.

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So today we have something not as enjoyable, but maybe is horrorcore in a way.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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And that is June 24th, 2025 of Alex's show.

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As we watch a disintegration happen, basically throughout this entire timeframe.

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He's killed Gene Hackman, which unleashed a demon that might be possessing Donald Trump.

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The United States is in a civil war.

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The world is maybe in a civil war.

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Donald Trump seems to be going back and forth from wanting regime change in Iran.

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It's very confusing.

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Yeah.

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But we may have stumbled upon our saving grace, which is that Donald Trump is no longer in

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control of Donald Trump.

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It's possible that there's a walk in.

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Right?

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We've got a walk in situation.

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Well, we don't know for sure.

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We don't know for sure yet, but this changes everything.

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He's been dealing with the flesh quite a bit, and that is a way that demons can get inside

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you.

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Everybody knows this.

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Right.

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So we have this possibility.

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And we'll see what kind of horrific anti-Semitic garbage we see on this episode.

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Great.

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Good news.

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Good news.

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Spoiler alert and warning.

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Oh, great.

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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Bad Bob, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, my wife and I communicate by sending secret messages through this show, and this

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is a birthday message to say happy birthday.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And Bad Tad the Rad Lad, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much, too.

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Pumpkin face McSlutpants from your best friend will be better tomorrow.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy Shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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So before we get going on this garbage ass episode of Alex's show, I do have an out of

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context drop.

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All right.

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And it made me very sad.

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Well, Dan, you're the only reason we're on air.

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We are literally in a toe to toe battle and I want to keep fighting and it means so much

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to me.

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It means everything.

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I mean, the most important thing to me is staying in the fight literally.

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So when you do that, you are everything.

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God bless you, brother.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Wow.

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That would be that is identical to a Joker to Batman speech.

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That is it.

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We are going to do this dance forever.

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This is what I want.

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This is what I really want.

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I don't want to win or to lose.

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I want to fight.

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Yeah.

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It's a weird thing to hear in a false context.

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In reality, there was a caller named Dan who had bought one of the products.

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Very different.

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Very different.

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And yet you can edit it out of context.

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This is great.

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This could become his thing that he edits out of context to predict that he was always

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going to be fighting you.

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Chase is going to put this into a drop.

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It makes perfect sense.

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So we start off the episode on the 24th.

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And I will say that most of this episode is Alex whining about how everyone is saying

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that he's fake MAGA.

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Everybody's so mean to him.

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Because he was against the idea of striking Iran.

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Right.

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He's like, oh, now I'm an imposter.

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And he is just mad.

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I don't like the Moolahs.

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They're a dictatorship.

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My goodness gracious.

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I want a total moratorium on all Muslim integration.

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I want to deport.

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All the ones that are here illegally.

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Every single one of them.

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Boy, I'm a known Islamaphobe, just like I'm scared of rattlesnakes and Black Widow spiders.

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Yep.

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Wait.

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You know, you got those phobias for a reason.

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Wait.

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And, but, oh, the Microsoft CIA Mossad group will be getting to later.

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They say I work for the Ayatollah of rock and rolla.

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Not Chris Jericho.

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Very different.

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31 years on air.

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I'm not from the family that raised Colonel Travis's son.

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I'm not from the family that literally wrote the constitution and started the whole war

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in a long term tenure project under Andrew Jackson.

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Both sides of my family weren't on the Mayflower.

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I'm not related to the inventor of the stock exchange.

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Lord Gresham.

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Wait.

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Of course, I'm all that and more.

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Are you?

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I'm an Americana, but I'm an Iranian spy.

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These people are Israeli sock puppets is their technical name.

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That's what the Israelis call them.

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And I don't want to see Israel destroyed.

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I don't hate Israel.

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Just like I might like my neighbor.

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He's a friendly guy.

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Go for barbecue.

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I don't want him to come over and say, Hey, buddy, I'm going to bend your wife over and

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fuck her in the ass in front of you.

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Sure.

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Wow.

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That seems aggressive.

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You don't run my line.

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My country and Israel people are sick of Netanyahu and they're sick of your games.

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And so I don't like the moolahs and I don't like you either.

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Talk about your leadership.

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Sure.

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It's like, yeah, another gross analogy.

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You're out in some, you know, parking lot and you see some rotten hamburger meat on

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the ground with maggots in it.

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And then you see a used tampon on the ground and somebody's like, which one would you like

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to eat?

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How about neither?

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Excuse the gross analogy, but that's that's what this comes down to.

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And you've got Iran's the rotten hamburger with maggots in it.

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And then, you know, at Netanyahu's.

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Yep.

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A used tampon.

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It's been up Satan's ass.

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All right.

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I'm going to stop right there.

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Is that where he puts tampons?

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Forgive me.

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I'm really angry right now.

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Lord, I apologize.

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Family audience.

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I'm just so real.

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I can't help it.

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Oh, seems real.

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Seems very real.

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How about that?

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That's gross.

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How about that?

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That's fucking gross.

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How about that?

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That whole clip.

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How about that?

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How about it?

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How about that clip?

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Yep.

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Alex referenced a Microsoft CIA report.

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And that'll come up later.

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But that was basically about like people using false flag narratives in order to disseminate

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Russian and Iranian state backed media narratives.

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And Alex isn't involved in that report at all.

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He's not even mentioned.

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But like he's got so mad about this.

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And he's just like, fucking these people saying I'm fake MAGA.

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Lord Gresham.

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That's American.

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I mean, the laundry list of things that he thinks are supposed to be Americana bonafides.

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It's just white capitalists.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't even think I want most of those things involved in America.

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Sure.

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But the lineage is just white capitalists.

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It's not Americana.

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Yeah.

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Is the stock market Americana?

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If you're talking about a 10 year plan under Andrew Jackson, there are only so many plans

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Andrew Jackson had.

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And there are only so many 10 year periods where he would have power to have plans underneath

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them.

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They weren't good plans.

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None of those were good plans.

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They were white as hell.

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They were very white plans.

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And I think that's the Bonafide days that Alex is responding.

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I think there's a part of it that's like, I'm so white.

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I am a member of the people who finished off the Native American genocide.

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You owe the West to me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's interesting because this protest station that he's making is silly.

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Yeah.

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But it is based on him having a point I guess I don't disagree with, which is we shouldn't

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go to war with Iran.

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So it's very strange that he's getting heat and blowback from people online because of

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his opposition to war with Iran.

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And he's responding in this way that is disgusting and is like, you guys don't think I hate Muslims?

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You think I don't hate Muslims?

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I do.

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I mean, I absolutely do.

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I am so white and scared.

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What I immediately thought of, and I don't know why this happened.

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I think it was, I think it had something to do with him being like, and that's because

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you're afraid of rattlesnakes and spiders for a reason.

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But I immediately had like a daytime talk show, nineties kind of Sally J. Raphael kind

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of situation.

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And they're like, we're dealing with phobias today.

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And I don't know if you, do you remember the one where they had a lady get into a bathtub

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filled with spiders?

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No, definitely not.

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Okay.

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Well, they were trying to, they were doing immersion therapy.

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Are you sure this wasn't an episode of Fear Factor?

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Could have been a dream I had.

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But the point is I just immediately had a vision of Alex getting into a bathtub with

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a bunch of Muslims.

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And I think he would be fine.

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I don't, I don't think there's anything to be scared of.

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Counterpoint.

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We've already seen him freak out about women at a pool supply shop.

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But he wasn't forced to get into a bathtub with them.

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Pool supply shop is pretty close to bathtub.

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Really close to bathtub.

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Yeah.

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Almost weirdly close.

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Both involved water.

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Yeah.

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So we get to talking a little bit about this report.

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This Microsoft CIA report.

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Yes.

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You people, it's like it's high school or junior high and you're at the cool table and

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you look at the OGs who are absolute thoroughbreds of this fight, been through hell to do this.

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And you say, oh, those are the imposters because the Israeli bots said so.

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Next you're going to tell me two men can have a baby and there's no X and Y chromosomes.

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I am.

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So I'll come back.

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Actually, I'll go to the Trump clips here in just a moment.

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But Steve Bannon in prison for defending the president, one of his top advisors.

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Demonized MTG.

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Most attacked in Congress.

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The president says, I think this is a bad idea.

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Oh, she's a traitor.

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Tucker Carlson for over 15 years, woke up to the neocon, said he was wrong supporting

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the wars, blown up flying out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, covering the first month

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of the war in Afghanistan, a war reporter.

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They put a bomb on the plane, blows out the bulkhead, kills a bunch of people.

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They crash land on the edge of the ocean.

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He almost dies.

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You never heard about that because he doesn't talk about it.

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Oh, but he's a wimp.

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What's he know?

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What's he ever been around?

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He just spent years in the Middle East in war zones.

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When he was 17, was sent down to live with the Contras and fight the communists by a

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CIA high level dad.

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Oh, what's he know?

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He was just in the jungle in battles when he was 17.

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Guess you didn't know that.

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And then Alex Jones.

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I mean, who's this guy?

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He just walked into town.

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We don't know anything about this guy, except he's an Iranian spy.

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Pathetic, disgusting talking points, chirped out, chirped out by Microsoft and Netanyahu.

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I'm going to get to the proof of that coming up.

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Those are the people you don't listen to.

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Those are the people that are just taking money to be imposters.

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Notice Iranian and Russian imposters have taken over MAGA.

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They say me and others.

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And now, and then they use bots and MAGA imposters to try to take it over and turn the Trump

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movement, which is the populist American forefront.

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He's riding a wave of that, the silver surfer of the golden surfer.

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And they try to transmute all that and turn it into now Netanyahu and Liz Cheney are MAGA.

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So Alex really should, Tucker should kick his ass.

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If any of this is true, this is really not what we need to be out there in the public

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if you're Tucker.

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Yeah, absolutely not.

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Because his behavior in the past few years looks really fucking shady if he is a lifelong

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CIA agent and asset who was a child soldier with the Contras.

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This is the thing I think that happens with America and war stuff, is that it blinds us

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to them being people.

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Once you become soldiers in a war situation, it's like, ah, you're a soldier.

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It blinds you to being a person.

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And so when somebody like Alex goes like, when he was a teenager, he was in the jungle

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fighting.

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And he thinks like, look, that's how strong he is.

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But what he's telling me is that they have psychologically traumatized this poor human

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being and now have unleashed him upon the rest of us.

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None of what he believes is real.

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He's an absolute psychopath.

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This is terrifying.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you're fighting in the jungles with the Contras, then he's like, it's not day one

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stuff.

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No, that's crazy.

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That'd be enough to drive you crazy.

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Right.

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And there's stuff that predates that.

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You know, like there's stuff that leads up to that that is like this person cannot possibly

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have had a healthy childhood.

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No.

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They are.

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Okay.

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Or how about this?

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Have we, let's go back further.

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Is this a last star fighter situation?

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Was Tucker Carlson so good at playing a video game about fighting the Contra in the jungle?

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No, because he got this position as a 17 year old through his high level CIA dad.

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Yeah.

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That doesn't help.

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Yeah, no, this is, this is someone who has been MK ultra.

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Why haven't you, why haven't you like dealt with the relationship between you and your

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father if he puts you in, there's no way you can deal with that.

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Man, I would be pissed.

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There's no way.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy.

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So this stuff that Alex is talking about, it all goes back to a report that was put

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out by the network contagion research Institute titled false flags and fake manga, how foreign

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and inauthentic networks use fake speech to destabilize the right from within.

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Naturally, with a name like that, you could see how Alex would take that personally, but

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this report isn't about him.

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It's not, it doesn't involve him at all.

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It was published on June 18th, but from the report quote, our analysis indicates that

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recent high profile cases, including you've all the crocus city hall, October 7th, the

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Trump shooting and other domestic attacks triggered an immediate surge in online false

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flag discourse emerging within minutes of initial reports and aimed at recasting the

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events as evidence of hidden conspiratorial plots, thereby obscuring the true motives

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and perpetrators.

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And the days following these crimes, Kremlin affiliated propagandists and Iranian state

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linked media were able to rapidly inject narratives that were taken up by Maga imposter influencers

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who then injected them into Maga branded spaces, often within minutes of breaking news in the

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report, they specifically call out Nick Fuentes, Jake Shields and Jackson Hinkle, but they

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don't point out the fact that all of these people have been on info Wars, which would

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have been, I mean, if Alex, if he wants to take this personally, that would be the angle

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to do.

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Yeah.

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He's getting defensive about this and saying it's about himself, Tucker and Bannon, but

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this report doesn't mention them at all, which seems weird.

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He seems to be throwing himself into this for no reason.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I guess in a way it implicates all of them, you know, it is, it is just essentially

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like everybody now knows you can throw a grenade into the right wing Twitter sphere and Lord

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knows what's going to happen.

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You know, it's calling out a game that Alex definitely profits off of.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So you could kind of see why he would be interested.

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The angrier that they have turned it into a, a like streamlined, technically sound project

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filter, or like injecting bullshit into America is, is it like there's teams of people who

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do it within minutes they have it done.

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They've got all this pre worked out, they've got scripts written.

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So this will happen across hundreds of bot accounts at the same time.

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Like it shouldn't be that easy.

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Yeah.

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And I think for Alex, you probably also like thinking the fact that I'm not in this report

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makes me seem less relevant.

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Right.

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There is of course, I don't have as much reach as like Nick Fuentes.

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Right.

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There's the personal element of pride.

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Yeah.

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So maybe you would lie and say that you're in the report because it's, it's almost like

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a mark of pride.

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I am important enough to be in here.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Getting, getting flack means you're over the target.

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Right.

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And if you're not getting flack, then you have to pretend that you're getting flack.

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Otherwise you are really not relevant.

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Uh oh.

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Yep.

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So this is one of the major pieces of discussion on the show.

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And another one is Alex being really mad that people are saying that Trump works for Qatar.

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Oh yeah.

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They're now saying Trump's in bed with Qatar.

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That trope that Qatar has any propaganda or power.

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We have a giant base there.

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Totally in a US government's hip pocket.

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And then now Trump doesn't want a war.

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And so now he, he's a traitor.

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Trump is a MAGA imposter.

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Put it back up.

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Trump Trump net.

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No Netanyahu now turns.

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That's all Netanyahu and you see that everywhere.

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You see it everywhere.

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Emily Bleebler or whatever it is.

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It's all the same.

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Israel do not drop those bombs.

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If you do it, it's a major violation.

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Bring your pilots home now.

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Donald John Trump, president of the United States.

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People say that Trump is in bed with Qatar because he very obviously is.

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Their government gave him a plane worth about $400 million a couple months back around the

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time when Trump's son Eric announced a new Trump International Golf Club was in development

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near Doha.

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Weird.

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His business interests are inextricable from his foreign policy actions.

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And that's not even taking into account the fact that his attorney general, Pam Bondi,

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used to be a registered lobbyist for Qatar at a firm that she used to work at, Ballard

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Partners.

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Right.

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This was sponsored by Brian Ballard, who is a lobbyist for the Trump Organization in Florida

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from 2013 to 2016 and a top fundraiser for Trump's campaigns.

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Seems like if this were Biden, Alex would probably say that it had been declassified

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and proven and admitted in the congressional record that Trump was on the Qatari payroll.

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This is plenty of evidence for his standards.

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Yeah.

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I mean, one of the great things about this, right, is like back in the day, I remember

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people having to have arguments about, oh, is this corrupt or is this like, oh, and Citizens

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United is opening the door for corrupt.

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This is the single most for sale the government's ever been.

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You can't argue with it.

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Shit is on the block.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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No conversation.

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When Alex says like America is open for business, he means that in a...

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Oh, baby.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You also might notice that Alex is citing someone that he called Emily Bleebler, which

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is...

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Yes, who is Emily Bleebler?

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It's actually a person named Emily Schrader, who's an Israeli American journalist.

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She reply tweeted to Trump saying that Israel needs to not bomb anymore, saying, quote,

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someone is in bed with Qatar, which is what Alex is yelling about.

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He's yelling about tweets.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you can't...

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I get it.

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I totally get the instincts to be like, this is the real world, so we should be like, hey,

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you can't do that, but come on, buddy.

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We're way past that.

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He's in bed with...

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Yeah, obviously.

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He's in bed with like 50 guys right now.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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It seems stupid to just yell about a tweet.

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I agree.

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Yeah.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

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I think that that's kind of what all of this is.

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The show is just basically him getting mad about Twitter.

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And now the Israeli CIA, stay behind network, Microsoft bot farms, and fake influencers

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that are following the talking points are now saying Trump is a MAGA imposter, not just

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Tucker Carlson, not just Steve Bannon, not just MGG, not just Alex Jones.

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No, Trump himself.

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I just show...

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It's everywhere now.

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He works for Qatar as if Qatar has any real propaganda push.

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It's a minion of the United States, a giant military base.

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What the hell does that mean?

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So when Alex says, I showed you it's everywhere, he's talking about that tweet.

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Our podcast has basically just become watching the effects of Twitter addiction manifest

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in an old man.

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It is a very strange sociological experiment.

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This used to be about far right tradition, the John Birch Society legacy, all of this

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intellectual conspiracy propaganda shit.

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And now it's just a cautionary tale about thinking the internet's real.

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It is interesting because you read studies on it and there's a lot of self-reporting,

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there's a lot of looking at internet stuff.

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There's a lot of conversation, there's a lot of interviews, there's a lot of this, but

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we are getting a very specific portrait of this phenomenon, which I think has affected

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everybody, right?

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To some degree, yeah.

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To some degree, there is absolutely somebody in your life who has done this.

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Whether or not you're experiencing the kind of things that Alex is clearly struggling

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with, you've dealt with the ripple effects of someone else.

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It's been foist upon your life.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And it is consuming.

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It is consuming, which is what I think everybody responds to.

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If somebody is saying some bullshit, you go, eh, you're saying some bullshit, but this

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consumes you and then everything is about this.

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There's such a noted difference, too, between earlier time Alex and this.

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Back in the day, he would go and bullhorn people and be sitting at an editing doc and

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really trying to make something.

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I don't see any evidence of anything other than looking at Twitter.

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I mean, he needs an intervention.

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Genuinely, I believe that this is an addictive situation, the level of an intervention.

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But that's the thing, before there was the booze, and then now it's this.

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I think booze is better.

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Absolutely, booze is better.

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Listen, we're all going to die and our bodies are going to disintegrate someday.

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I would rather go out one way than fucking Twitter addiction.

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I hate to say that alcoholism is less dorky than Twitter addiction, but it kind of is.

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It's really nerd shit.

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Come on, step up.

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Yeah, fuck.

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Come on.

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Alex is mad at these people who are saying that he's fake MAGA and that Benjamin Netanyahu

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represents the real MAGA.

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And he seems to be particularly mad at Jewish voices.

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Wild how that happens, too.

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And now Mark Levin is attacking President Trump.

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Of course he is.

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He didn't support Trump early on.

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Ben Shapiro didn't support him.

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No, no.

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They are the imposters.

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Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin.

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They've always been neocon bootlickers, anti-American trash.

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They're not Americans.

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They're globalists.

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They're power brokers.

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They're lacunics.

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And they think you're stupid.

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Alex isn't really being subtle here at all, and any unbiased observer should be able to

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see the kind of slide that this show's content is on.

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This isn't about Levin or Shapiro having political positions that Alex disagrees with.

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It's about them being two very high profile Jewish men in the conservative media space.

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This kind of shit isn't being directed at people like Charlie Kirk when he has a disagreement

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with Trump over something, or Candace Owens.

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This is very much dependent on them being Jewish men.

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Yeah.

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Or Jewish people.

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It feels like the...

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Okay.

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It feels like there has not been any kind of explicit agreement with everybody, but

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everybody has dipped their toe in here or there until the point where I think this region

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knows where the wind is blowing.

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To the point where-

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When you say region, you mean right wing media.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Right wing media.

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That is like, okay, this is where it's going.

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Whether we believe in this, whether we're as racist as we're going to sound right now,

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doesn't matter because this is where the wind is blowing.

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This is where the money's going to be.

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Yeah.

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I think that one thing that's really illuminating is years ago when Alex's texts got revealed,

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one of the exchanges that was in there was between him and Millie Weaver.

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She was warning him after he had had Nick Fuentes on the show the first time that she

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had hung out with Nick and his fans and they were actually Nazis and he should not hang

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out with them.

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Right.

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And that's great.

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But the other part of what she was telling him was that these are young people.

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They don't even buy your supplements.

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This isn't even going to raise sales for you, so why are you trying to cater to this audience?

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And I think that that mathematics has changed.

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That maybe a lot of those people who were buying the supplements died from COVID because

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they didn't get vaccinated.

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Maybe a lot of that market is now they have to chase it and online Twitter would lead

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you to believe, oh, well we got to go Nazi.

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These are the people who are getting big numbers.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And that report that Alex is complaining about kind of illustrates that.

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Nick Fuentes is named in that.

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Alex isn't.

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Everybody's doing a pivot to Nazi.

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You know, it's a, yeah.

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These fucks are for sure.

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So Alex feels like he's been shit on a little bit.

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Maybe pissed on a little bit.

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People saying he's false.

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He's fake MAGA.

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Yeah, but he's not.

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He's not.

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He's the best in the business.

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The whole business?

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Yeah.

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He's the Tom Brady of this shit.

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That's why when they get the Rockefeller Foundation documents and others, they go, how does this

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guy know our plans?

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Who does he work for?

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When the Democrats sued me for years in discovery and sued my employees and would offer him

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money, they'd say in the depositions, who does he work for?

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Who gives him the talking points?

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Who's his boss?

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They go, it's him.

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They post my dad.

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They go, who creates the Jones show and the things he says and how does he say the things

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he says?

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You know, so it's all in his head.

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That's you quote CNN.

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Dr. David Jones, Alex Jones' father says there is a plan.

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There is a boss and it's Alex and it's in his head.

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So see the bad guys know I'm on them.

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Remember the headlines seven years ago?

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The new chief of staff's main job is keeping Trump away from Alex Jones.

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Why would that be?

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Um, sir, you have three board members of George Soros's group in your White House.

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No, I don't really.

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You didn't know about Fiona Hill.

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You didn't know about bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep

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tell him because they were scared of the repercussions.

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They had 60 minutes programs with Fiona Hill crying in Congress.

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But I was mean to her.

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No one was willing to go after him.

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And I'll go after the globalist Soros deep state with our own Trump.

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And I'll go after the Kudnits and Benjamin Netanyahu.

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And if they ever got Russians around him for real, I'll go after them.

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What about Elon?

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The Chai Coms are all over the Democrats and all over some of the Republicans.

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Mitch McConnell.

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I just tell the truth.

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It's so easy.

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The truth and integrity are not my North Star.

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They are my prime directive.

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It's all I do.

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I couldn't shut up and stop telling the truth if I had a gun to my head.

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And that's why you're told I'm the imposter, I'm inauthentic, I'm the fraud, because I

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am the real McCoy.

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And I'm attacked and I'm not even happy about this because it's so dangerous, but I'm the

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best there is.

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Steve Bannon says it.

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I think he's about as good as I am or better in ways.

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I'm just saying there's not many of us.

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General Flint's about as good as you get.

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I'm the best there is.

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And it'd be like if you're Tom Brady in his peak and suddenly they say you're not a football

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player and we're kicking it off the team.

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You go, I just won the Super Bowl.

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I'm like, I don't want to brag.

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I'm Tom Brady.

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But I'm not.

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You've never been on the New England Patriots.

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I'm like, yeah, I won like all these Super Bowls with them.

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No, you didn't.

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No, this 60-pound person that's three feet tall is the best quarterback in the world.

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You're like, the person can't walk.

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They're in a wheelchair.

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Well, no, no, that's the best football player on the planet.

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And just all this mad dogging, those are Israeli bots.

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Those are Microsoft bots.

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Know what they are.

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These idiots will get us all killed.

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This is really fucking sad because what's actually going on here is that Alex is yelling

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on his show about how people on Twitter don't respect him enough.

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That's literally what this is.

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They don't respect my credibility and my career and what I've done.

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I'm Tom Brady.

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This is just a man bleeding out his insecurity on camera.

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And I honestly felt a little embarrassed watching it.

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Like if you are Alex Jones, you should not feel this desperate to be validated.

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You are Alex Jones.

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You were Alex Jones.

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I mean, look, I don't know about...

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Alex seems to think that continuity isn't real in life.

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That's fair.

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Yesterday doesn't relate to today.

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That's fair.

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But I do.

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I believe that the past led to the present.

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And so he is still physically the person who was Alex Jones.

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Fair enough.

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You don't need to be like this sad that people on Twitter are mean.

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You snuck into Bohemian Grove, asshole.

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You did that.

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Here's the thing about the bots, right?

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Because this is a problem for people, I think, who talk about bots.

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If you say that this coverage that is negative is bots, then you must also accept that sometimes

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the coverage when it's positive is bots.

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Meaning it doesn't matter anymore either way because you'll never know.

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You can't know whether the feedback you're receiving is real.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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And I think that the...

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I don't want to tip all of my cards too much, but I don't really think that this Network

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Contagion Research Institute report is good.

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I don't think that it's...

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I read it.

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It's not very...

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I don't agree with it.

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I'm a little dubious of it.

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When it's talking about bots, it's talking about Nick Fuentes would post something about

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some attack being a false flag, and then tons and tons of replies would just be spam emojis

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of 100 or whatever.

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They're saying this is indicative of bot kind of behavior.

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And I'm not sure if that's 100% true, but it definitely could be.

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I don't know.

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Some is, some isn't.

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It's not the dead internet theory.

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It's the garbage internet theory.

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It's all...

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It doesn't matter.

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It's all garbage.

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Yeah.

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It's just there.

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Yeah.

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It could be inauthentic or it could be authentic, but what it means is identical and that's

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nothing.

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You can't know and that robs it of meaning.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that is to say that I'm not sure...

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When Alex is talking about bots, he's not even talking about what this article or the

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report is talking about.

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So I don't even know how to assess it.

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Right.

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In the way that he's talking about bots being real, I mean in the way that he's feeling

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about it in that negative coverage is all coming from false things.

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But if you believe that, then you also have to believe that positive coverage comes from

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false things.

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Yeah.

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Like it has to work both ways or it doesn't work.

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I think he doesn't really care.

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He's just complaining because it's not going in the direction he wants.

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Exactly.

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That's really what the complaint is about.

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That is.

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It's not about bots.

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I want people to like me.

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And respect me.

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I'm the Bohemian Grove assholes.

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Right.

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So all that being said, I'm pretty sure that we are literally the only people who covered

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Alex's dad's deposition.

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Absolutely.

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When he said that CNN talked about it, there's no other conclusion I can come up with than

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he thinks we're CNN.

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Because I had to get that deposition.

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That wasn't like...

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I didn't cover CNN covering it.

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We're the only people who cover depositions period.

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A bunch of those.

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Yeah.

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They did not get any coverage outside of us.

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No.

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Because why would they?

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Inexplicably, depositions are our thing.

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Yeah.

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I think maybe the Kit Daniels one got some press because he cried.

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I think the Paul Joseph Watson one got some press because he said that Alex lied about

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Sandy Hook.

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Sure.

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I think that maybe the Owen Schroyer did because he said he was a puppet.

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Maybe.

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But none of them received more than between 30 seconds and three minutes of video coverage

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or a clip or something from there.

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It is taking one small thing out of context and then writing bullshit.

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We're the only people who would actually listen.

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Yeah.

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So that seems weird.

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Yeah.

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It does seem weird.

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So, Alex, a lot of his targeting is at Mark Levin.

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Sure.

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On this episode.

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Yes.

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And so he complains about Mark Levin a bit here.

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Let's go back to what Levin's saying.

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Oh, Trump doesn't want regime change.

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So the sleeper cells are set to hit us any minute.

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Let's put that Mark Levin tweet back up, please.

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The Iranian terrorist embeds are here and have been here.

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Eleven arrested by ICE.

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They're here because Biden and the Democrats invited them in with open borders.

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We said so at the time.

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Quatarlson Tucker Carlson's now works for Qatar, Quatarlson and his ilk will blame patriotic

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I would give up on that one in the military.

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Let that go.

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Oh, put up the date again.

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He says that this morning.

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At 850 at 847.

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Oh.

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The Iranians are going to hit us.

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And Tucker Carlson is going to say it's a false flag.

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That's funny, Mark.

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I'm the one saying that.

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Why don't you just say my name?

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Oh, damn.

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Oh, damn.

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So you might notice that Alex is just complaining about something someone tweeted again.

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Yep.

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His complaints and Alex's feelings are pretty much this entire show at this point.

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Feels like it.

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You might also notice that Alex is doing a mocking voice when he reads that Mark Levin

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tweet, but it's exactly the same stuff Alex says.

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He spent so much time on his show saying that Iranian sleeper cells have infiltrated the

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country.

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But now that Mark Levin is saying it, it's somehow stupid and you've got to do this cartoon

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voice?

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The key to understanding this is that Alex doesn't care about the what.

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He just cares about the why.

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He isn't worried about Iranian sleeper cells being in the United States.

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He just pretends it's a huge issue when he needs to use it as an excuse to push a narrative

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that he wants to sell.

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The reason that Alex is mad is because Levin is doing the same thing.

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Levin favors regime change war with Iran, so he's trying to present a scary image of

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what the price of not carrying out that war would be.

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He's trying to create the impression that we need to go to war with Iran, because if

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we don't, they'll activate these sleeper cells.

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For Alex, the Iranian sleeper cells storyline is an anti-immigration talking point.

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He wants to create a scary image of terrorist sleeper cells invading the country, because

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he wants the audience to be suspicious that any immigrant might be a member of one of

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these cells, and therefore should be deported.

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Both of these dudes are using the same means to pursue a different end, but they're also

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dishonest actors and they don't really care about alleged sleeper cells.

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Levin wants to use the fear he can create around this issue to justify going to war,

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whereas Alex wants to use the fear he can create around it to justify white nationalist

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immigration policies.

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Alex doesn't want the fear that he's built around this subject to be redirected in a

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different direction, so he has a need to attack Levin.

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But because he does no preparation and knows the audience that he's talking to is stupid,

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he ends up mocking Levin on the show about the point the two should agree on.

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Both of their propaganda campaigns rely on believing that these sleeper cells exist,

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and they are an imminent threat.

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So this response that he's doing seems counterproductive, and it's just really good that anybody listening

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to his show and taking it seriously, they have to be gone by now.

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So he can just do this.

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Yeah, I mean it is like two men arguing over a fire hose, like, oh no, point at this direction,

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no point at this direction, no point at this direction.

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It's like, I don't know.

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Well it's like, but the hose, they're like, I want to spray this dog with it, and the

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other person's like, I want to spray this kid with it.

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I want to annoy someone and jeopardize someone's safety this way or this way.

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Yeah.

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It's fucked up.

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Yeah.

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So it's nothing compared to what comes next though.

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Okay.

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Alex does a long, long act out of Mark Levin hypnotizing his audience.

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Oh boy.

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And those very same bots are now attacking Trump directly and calling him qu-Trump, qua-tar

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Trump.

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Boo.

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Or Carlson or Tucker.

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How would you combine Trump and Qatar?

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Qua- Don't do it.

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Qua-twomp?

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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Yeah.

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Qua-torump?

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Quatari Trump?

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Nailed it.

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Quatar Trump?

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Good.

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You'll be hearing that soon.

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Doubt it.

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Will you?

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Trump is an imposter.

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Trump is not real.

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Trump is not MAGA.

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Trump is not good.

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Ben Shapiro is MAGA.

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Mark Levin is MAGA.

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Benjamin Netanyahu is MAGA.

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Trump has nothing to do with MAGA.

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I'm surprised he doesn't have a gold watch out on TV going like this.

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Look into my eyes.

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Watch the watch.

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Watch the watch as we swing the watch back and forth.

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Go to sleep.

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Let me hypnotize you.

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You love all the wars.

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There's WMDs in Iraq.

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La la la.

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A pack doesn't have any power.

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If you question anything the Israeli leaders do, you're going to hell.

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Jesus said always do what the Pharisees say.

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Watch the watch.

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Watch the watch.

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Watch the watch.

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There you go.

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You're getting sleepier and sleepier and sleepier.

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Yes, Mark Levin supported the lockdowns and forced injection.

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Yes, Ben Shapiro did.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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They hated Trump.

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Yes, they were never Trumpers.

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Now they will tell you who the good people are.

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They will tell you who you can trust.

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They will tell you who you have to listen to.

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Good.

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Good.

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Who is MAGA?

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I don't know.

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Who am I?

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Oh.

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Oh, we're adding another character.

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Who is Benjamin Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and me, Mark Levin.

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Say it with me now slowly.

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Trump is an imposter.

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Trump is the imposter.

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Is this a new character?

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It's good scene work.

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That's insane.

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You would never be able to convince me that Alex didn't know that the idea that Jewish

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people hypnotize the public is a giant historical anti-Semitic trope.

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He's not unaware of that.

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It wasn't some big mystery back in 2019 when Infowars was criticizing Ilhan Omar for tweeting

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that Israel had hypnotized the world.

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He understands this perfectly well.

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He knows what the fuck he's doing.

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You see this back and forth in the show's content over the last weeks or so.

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One day it's profoundly anti-Semitic and then the next day it's back to him pretending that

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the last day didn't happen.

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He's engaging in these outbursts and then bringing the temperature back to normal because

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he's trying to get the audience acclimated to this kind of content without scaring people

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off with Nazi salutes and swastikas.

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This is a marked departure in his content.

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It's where the wind is blowing.

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That is only half of that impression.

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I'm not going to play the rest because it's more just hypnotized.

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That's a long...

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Here's...okay.

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Let me try and...okay.

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What this feels like is the modern version of being trapped at the breakfast table with

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a guy who writes letters to the editor.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like this feels like in the morning I've woken up, I'm trying to eat cereal, somebody opens

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the newspaper and you hear that crack, right?

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And then he goes, oh, so now they're going to say this shit about me, you know?

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And then starts drafting a letter.

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But I kind of feel like I'd rather be around that guy because you can't hit refresh on

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the newspaper.

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Absolutely.

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You know, like there's...

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Absolutely.

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He has to have a second hobby.

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No, that's...I mean, I was thinking about it wistfully.

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Like remember when it would end at the letter.

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The letter would be sent to the editor.

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It would be printed in the newspaper maybe.

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There's something cathartic about like putting the stamp on the envelope and they can be

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like, well, I can't possibly expect them to respond immediately.

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Now I can take a breath.

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I will see you guys next week.

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Yeah, but Twitter, it's just constantly refreshing.

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It's stuck!

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Okay, great.

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Okay.

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All right.

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It's just fucking immediate.

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Yep.

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Awful.

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But yeah, Alex is definitely taking a shift towards the neo-Nazi.

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That'll happen.

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It's undeniable.

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Yeah.

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Like these things keep happening and I think that he's trying to signal very clearly that

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this is a choice that he's making.

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One of the things that I think is one of the signals is the choice that he comes in, the

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song he plays, coming back from break after this really long hypnotism riff.

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So we're witnessing just incredible developments right now, ladies and gentlemen.

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And I can't wait to get Nick Fuentes on in the next hour to get his take on all of this.

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Yeah.

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He's like, I've noted a Nazi anti-Semite fuck Nick Fuentes on and he's coming back in over

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No More Mr. Nice Guy.

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He's like, no, I'm going to be the guy that I've pretended that I wasn't my whole career.

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Yeah, I've said that the globalist, I didn't mean Jew, but fuck it.

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I do.

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I mean, now I'm literally calling prominent Jews globalists in a one-to-one as everybody

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told me I was doing in the past.

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Yeah.

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I think a little bit later, we'll get some more indications that he knows exactly what

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he's doing.

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Yep.

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But he's not just mad at Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.

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Sure.

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There are other Jewish people.

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Why not?

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Like Laura Loomer.

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Oh.

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He spends a long time complaining about.

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So I love the bots and the Laura Loomer.

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So I've never done anything to who's just mad dog.

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Like I'm taking screenshots, he might criticize Trump and I'm giving it to him.

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Please, please.

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Next time you go see Trump, don't worry, I'm getting stuff too.

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Please take him while I'm saying right now, please, sweetheart.

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Plus Steve Bannon had me do it and got it to Trump last Thursday.

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I can get him on the phone too, cupcake him if I want to.

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Or I've been invited to dinner up there.

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Didn't go.

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Because see, I'm not into the pageantry like you.

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I'm not in the cool kid club.

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Never have been, never wanted to be.

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I wouldn't be part of any organization that had me.

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So bad.

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See, I create the paradigms.

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I create the future.

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I don't try to sit like a bird on a perch higher than another bird like cockatoos do

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so I can feel more powerful.

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I don't dislike black tie dinners.

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What are we doing?

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Quite frankly, I'm a married man.

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It's a little tempting, so I got to stay away from that.

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What?

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That's why I don't go on the road a lot and go a lot of places and things because I got

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my weaknesses and I'm a good person.

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What?

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The point is, is that, is that I am integrity.

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Look, I'm integrity, but I like to fuck.

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I can't not fuck.

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You cannot be integrity and also be like, if I leave the house, I'm going to fuck a

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stranger.

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I'm going to fuck a stranger.

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I don't know.

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Could be anybody.

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If I go to a black tie event, I'm fucking.

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I'm going to fuck.

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I'm going to fuck.

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If I go to a black tie event, I am going to fuck.

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So because I have integrity, I won't go.

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That makes sense.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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I have no notes.

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I, I, if, okay.

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If you ever find yourself in the, I am the creator of dreams.

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I am the one who is controlling the weather.

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I'm as good as it gets.

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I can't leave the house without fucking.

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If you, if you find yourself in a situation where you're giving that speech, reevaluate,

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step back, stop, have somebody nearby.

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Maybe just have a friend whose only job is to notice if you are giving megalomaniacal

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speeches.

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Maybe that friend's name is Tito and he's made of vodka.

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That is possible.

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Maybe.

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Take a drink.

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So Alex is mad at Laura Loomer because she's like, I'm going to snitch to Trump that you

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guys aren't loyal enough.

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I'm going to tell daddy.

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The real irony is that, um, there's a good chance that Laura Loomer wouldn't be in the

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position that she's in if Alex hadn't also helped foster her career along the way.

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Um, so, you know, you guys are dealing with your own problems.

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Um, but he, he's really explicit about how he just wants to fight with her for attention.

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Oh my God.

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I saw, I've seen like thousands of posts by other people.

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I'm going to get you.

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I'm going to report you.

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Well, good.

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We can take all the publicity we can get.

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That's ridiculous.

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Thank you.

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Go back to me real quick.

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Yeah, there she is calling Tucker Carlson, a raging Jew hater.

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Let's just stop right now.

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Yes, let's.

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Let's just stop.

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We can stop.

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I like Laura Loomer.

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Oh, God dammit.

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She just got a little, little excited.

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Got him on a power trip.

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She's always, I'm getting screenshots of every one of you and I'm going to give it a drum.

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Gee, you think somebody on X, it's getting millions of views, us billions, but millions.

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Do you think when I posted a picture of Trump saying what we voted for and then a picture

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of George W. Bush, what we're getting.

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Then I said, I hope this isn't the case.

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Do you think when that got like 8 million views or whatever last time I checked and

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then posted everywhere else, do you, it got put on the national news.

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Do you think I was doing that to hide it?

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Do you not think this is an attention business?

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It's pretty much as laying out an engagement farming strategy here.

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So on this day, there's a system in the Trump base with one side preferring war with Iran

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and the other opposing it.

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Each side is made up of people with different agendas.

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Some of them bigots, some of them politically motivated, you know, it's a combination.

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It's not a big tent, but it is a tent.

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Yeah, but for the most part, the conflict in the right wing on the 24th is over this

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wedge issue.

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The landscape for Alex has to be looking good because there were two sides arguing on social

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media about who the true Trump fans were.

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This whole episode is really just Alex trying to pick a fight with various high profile

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right wingers on the other side of the issue, all in hopes of getting more people to tweet

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about him and respect him more.

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With that aspect of what he's doing in mind, that whole hypnosis thing from earlier really

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takes on a grotesque dimension where Alex is weaponizing antisemitic tropes specifically

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to get a Jewish man to call him antisemitic, which Alex can then pretend to not understand.

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It's sick shit.

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This dude needs to get off Twitter because he's trying to be a Nazi for attention.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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He probably also means a lot of it, but it's also an attention strategy.

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Like, you know, okay, how about this?

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He literally had Kanye on his show when Kanye was doing what he's doing.

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You know, like I'm going to be a Nazi for attention.

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Yeah, but way more confidently.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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These people, honestly, Kanye did it first.

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Kanye turned into a Hitler lover before you do.

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You guys are following Kanye.

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What a weird turn of events.

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Quite sad.

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And actually, yeah, it's interesting that you bring him up because Alex is complaining

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about Laura Loomer.

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You used to like Ye.

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What now?

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What now?

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Gotcha.

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And then Laura Loomer.

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Oh, she loves Ye.

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And she used to love Nick Fuentes when she wasn't in the entourage of Trump.

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Oh, she was smiling and laughing, you know, next to a guy saying he loves Hitler and wouldn't

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even dare challenge him on it because she was so star-stripping about Ye.

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And now I tell you, he's full of crap sitting right there.

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Because I know all about Hitler from the real history and the deep stuff.

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But oh, now Tucker Carlson, though, he's a secret Nazi.

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That's right.

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He's got a red armband.

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He's got he's got a Nazi swastika on his ass.

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That's called bullshit.

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And it's called hypocrisy.

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I mean, Laura, you run around with people that put out music videos saying how Hitler.

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Got him.

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Boom.

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Yeah.

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And then you're going to say Tucker Carlson's a Nazi, as if that hurts people.

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Tucker Carlson's not a Nazi.

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He's sophisticated.

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He's an American.

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He's a populist.

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He doesn't like Hitler.

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He doesn't like totalitarianism.

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That's why I don't like Hitler.

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Oh, that's why?

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Is that the only reason?

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So this is just another instance of Alex trying to bait a Jewish right wing media figure into

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fighting with him by drifting a bit into anti-Semitic territory.

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It's a wild thing to see play out so clearly in front of you, especially when Alex is slamming

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Loomer for formerly hanging out with Nick Fuentes when Alex is going to have him on

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the show later.

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Like what is the what is the dunk that you're making here?

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Oh, you think you can just call anybody a Nazi?

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Well, I'm a Nazi.

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You think you're too cool to hang out with Nazis now because you actually go to the White

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House?

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All right.

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All right, fine.

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This is sad.

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And it gets disgusting.

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OK.

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I will honestly say that it gets disgusting.

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All right.

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Alex has a little bit of a flight of fancy about Loomer.

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Oh, that's no good.

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So I'll quote Jesus.

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I don't like that.

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Loomer.

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I'm just singling around as an example.

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I can't wait for her to attack me.

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I'm really looking forward to it.

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Jesus was being accused of being evil and sinful by a Pharisee.

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Maybe it's a Sadducee.

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And he says, hey, why don't you get the beam out of your eye, the two by four, before you

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tell me about the speck in mine?

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So, Laura, I'm just putting you over my knee here and spanking you.

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I know that's what you've wanted and you've been mad I haven't given you that, but that's

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OK.

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But I'm metaphysically putting you over my knee right now and giving you a spanking.

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So the context of that whole eye plank thing, that's from Matthew seven.

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There's no Pharisees or Sadducees in that story.

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It's just just a regular guy.

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Yeah, just regular.

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I'd be interested to hear Alex explain the difference between those two groups, though.

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I wonder if he has any idea who the Pharisees and Sadducees were.

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Oh, God.

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Nope.

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So also, this is just disgusting behavior on Alex's part.

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He's more or less sexually harassing Laura Loomer on air.

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Sexualized threats and Bible verses in the same minute.

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It's impressive.

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And guess which one comes from his heart?

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Hmm.

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Because it's not both.

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I mean, this is very Spanish Inquisition.

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I'm feeling very Spanish Inquisition about these people.

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It's not good.

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Laura Loomer's just mad I wouldn't fuck her.

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I mean, that's very...

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Gross.

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That's pretty Spanish Inquisition, if you ask me.

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This dude's gross.

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So...

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Bleh.

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We shift off the sort of sexualized threats territory, and I think this is where the show

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really just takes a nosedive.

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So, Rem Fan is the name of the pagan god worshipped by some Israelites who were led astray in

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the wilderness, which is covered in Act 7.

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The text says, quote, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch and the star of your god Rem Fan,

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figures which ye made to worship them, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

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It's a pretty well-known antisemitic conspiracy talking point that this verse proves that

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Judaism is actually Moloch worship.

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And so that's the thing that Alex is against.

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But what's interesting is that he seems to reject that antisemitic smear in favor of

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a more extreme one.

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And Alex's version of the Seal of Solomon stuff is about as extreme as you can get.

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This dude is only not a Nazi, because he just finds them disappointing, apparently.

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This is real fucked up.

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Yeah, I mean, when you get into...

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When you see people get into a hypocrisy fight, and there is no bottom, because they're both

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so emblematic of the very concept of hypocrisy, it's hard to even look at them without the

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brightness of their hypocrisy blinding you.

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You get weird shit like this.

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What are you doing?

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Yeah.

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It's so strange to hear Alex be able to get mad about this.

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What is the correct antisemitic conspiracy interpretation of the Star of David?

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He has strong feelings about these fools who think it's the Rem Fan version, but no, it's

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the Solomon version.

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It is like listening to people argue about deep lore of Star Trek, the next generation,

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but then also using it to justify horrors.

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Yeah.

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It's fun when it's just Star Trek stuff.

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Yeah, just argue about Star Trek.

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Do not also, and then be like, and of course we need to subjugate.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't.

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No, you don't.

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No, Star Trek doesn't teach that.

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Yeah.

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So I think that we're pretty fully off the rails at this point.

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Which other ancient texts?

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Ooh, because that works.

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What?

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I mean, you've heard of Smolley.

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We wrestle with God.

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Israel is what it means.

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And we're even greater than you, God.

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Remember that clip we played last week of Smolley?

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Ooh, that's dangerous.

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That's some...

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And then see, oh, and we control Satan too.

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Yeah, well, I ain't trying to control God or Satan.

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I've got defense against Satan through Jesus Christ, but it isn't me doing it.

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It's Jesus Christ.

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So you guys go ahead and run your mouths now.

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You control God and you control Satan and, oh, you're so powerful.

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Yeah.

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You think you're in control?

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Bless your soul.

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We should come out with Gnarls Barkley.

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Bless your soul.

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You think you're in control?

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You don't even know what you're dealing with.

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My dad explained when I was about eight years old, the seal of Solomon.

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He said it was important to understand how the secret society's operation was at the

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heart of it.

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I just believed my dad.

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I later went out and researched it.

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But it's hard to find that information because the profane, that's what the other occultists

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call everybody else.

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The Jews call you the goyim.

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And see, here's the thing.

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People go, oh, God, the Jews, they call us goyim, they call us goyim, they call us goyim.

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All the cults call everybody else profane, like dog crap.

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Be lucky the Jews just call you cows.

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What are we doing?

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What are we doing here?

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You see, I'm trying to get you to not act like a cow.

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I said we were off the rails.

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This is a fucking mess.

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And I think the one Alex says, like, my dad taught me this when I was eight and then I

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researched it.

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He just listened to Mystery Babylon.

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That's it.

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He's just listened to Bill Cooper's dumb ass and all these fake books.

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I'm telling you, if we had a time machine, I just feel like a lot of things would go

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completely different in our world, completely different if somebody showed up at Alex's

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house when he was like seven and told his dad to, like, knock it off.

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Like, hey, leave the kid alone.

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You know, like, much like is the message of the Bible.

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Knock it off.

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Hey, knock it off.

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David Jones, knock it off.

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Knock it off.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's the mystery that we'll never really be able to solve.

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And apparently Alex's dad is in poor health.

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And so maybe he'll never give a full tell-all interview.

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But there is this lingering question of how much of that is real, like what his dad did

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imprint on him from a young age, all of this sort of crypto-Nazi bullshit, right-wing nonsense.

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And how much of it is Alex creating these stories about what his dad taught him?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't.

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But I'm just saying that going back in time and stopping him might not solve the problem.

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But something would.

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These people are nuts, man.

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That's just what he just said is objectively crazy to the level of, like, we shouldn't

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allow you to be out in a car because that's a murder weapon.

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You know, like, that is scary to listen to a person say that.

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It really implies a level of rank dishonesty throughout his career.

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Oh, absolutely.

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If he's, like, this is what he's believed since he was eight or whatever, like, there

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is so much pretending to not be an anti-Semite throughout your career that you have to unpack

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that.

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Yeah.

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Why did you lie about that?

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And actually, Alex does give an answer later on in the episode.

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Oh, yeah?

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Oh, great.

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So look forward to that.

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Well, all right.

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I'm excited about the possibility that people will take him out of context.

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Yes, that'll be because where they get its engagement for.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There it is.

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The Ring of Solomon to command demons and spirits.

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So that's what it is.

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King Solomon said it.

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He studied all the seals and conjured thousands of demons, including Satan himself, and married

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hundreds of wives to study their different occultic religions and even involved human

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sacrifice.

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And he said, that seal commands Satan.

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Oh, we're having a history lesson today.

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Laura Lemert, tell me about anti-Semitism now.

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Oh, how's old Yeh doing?

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Don't need help.

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You got it.

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You nailed it, buddy.

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I love Hitler.

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Watch the left will take that out of context.

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Say, Jones is loving Hitler.

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Good.

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Put the lies out.

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People just come and hear the truth.

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Hitler was an occultic loser.

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Set up my British intelligence.

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It's all on record.

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You can go find out about it.

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Well, I'm convinced.

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So Alex is essentially begging for people to take him out of context on this episode.

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He's saying insane anti-Semitic shit and targeting specifically Jewish right wing media figures.

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And he's desperate for someone to call him anti-Semitic over it.

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When he says that the media is going to cut him out, say, I think that I love Hitler and

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take that out of context, he's fantasizing.

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That's what he's doing.

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He's just hoping someone does that.

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Oh God, I'm going to make some money off that.

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This is something that I haven't experienced in a bit, but this episode feels like it's

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entirely meant to be bait.

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This doesn't make it any less horrible and Alex's shit is still awful, but his goals

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are very transparent.

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This has the same kind of feeling as the, I'm going to eat my neighbors.

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That episode is such bait.

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It's meant to get coverage that then he can yell about it.

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See, look at what they say about me and yada yada yada.

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Create like a attention spiral out of it.

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And he's doing that, but he's just doing it with like, tada, the reveal is it's the Jews.

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Yeah.

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It's what?

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What's his, was it Kid Rock?

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The Rolling Stone article about how Kid Rock was trying to do a whole thing?

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Saying the N word.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And the guy's like, I'm not doing this, man.

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I'm not following this.

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That's what this feels like.

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It feels like you're trying to shock me in such a way that makes me go like that.

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That's come on.

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It is shocking.

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I guess.

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And like, it's not, it's not something that I want to just brush aside as look at this

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attention seeking clown.

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Sure.

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You know, but at the same time, it's, you can't take it outside of the perspective.

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Like you can't understand what he's doing without understanding also that it's meant

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to provoke.

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It's meant to create a negative response that profits Alex.

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Yeah.

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This is, this is, it is what, okay.

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There's the type of bigotry that is hatred towards the other.

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And then there's the type of bigotry that is, I am going to manipulate my in-group at

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the other's expense.

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I don't particularly, I don't get to talk about who the other is, anybody.

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I'm trying to harm my in-group with this bigotry.

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But it's, I'm just using the, the allure of bullshit.

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And I would argue that this is both, but it's fundamentally as a, because it's public speech

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and communication, it's fundamentally the second one.

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Like that's, it's primarily and most dangerous as the second one, as opposed to like whatever

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Alex's actual feelings are.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that sucks.

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Still good.

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Nope.

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So Trump's cool.

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Eh, okay.

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It's just the cult members that are inside his administration.

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Which cult members?

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I don't know.

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Mm.

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And the good news is, I like specifics.

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Trump, cause I know Trump very well.

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He's very smart on business, very smart on all this stuff.

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He'll admit even eight years ago, he'd understand a lot of geopolitics.

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He didn't understand how DC worked.

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He's learned a lot, but he still thinks these people are briefing him correctly.

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A lot of them are just acolytes.

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Heck Seth, it's not a bad person.

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He's a combat vet, highly decorated.

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Why not?

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Fully brainwashed by the Lacunae.

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Same thing with Carilla, the head of CENTCOM.

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So when they give him these briefings, they are, they are members of the cult.

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They drink the Kool-Aid and they told him, sir, we know where the uranium is.

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We'll get it.

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It'll stop him.

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And he goes in and now his very same advisors, the media turn on him.

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The one saying, do it, do it, do it.

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It's so easy.

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Just fly right over, you know, a few bombs.

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Oh no, we didn't get it.

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They moved it out, which of course I'd say it wasn't gonna be the case, which I directly

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warned the president with last week.

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And then, then he always says, no, we're not doing regime change.

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And I showed you all these sock puppet influencers, and I'm going to show you what Nick Fuentes

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coming up right now.

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The NGO Israeli sock puppet Microsoft group that put the talking point out that you're

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not real MAGA.

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You're an imposter.

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If you don't do whatever Netanyahu says, now those groups are saying Trump is on the payroll

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of the Qataris.

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So this is where the thread of the show really came together for me.

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And I think that Alex is either selling broadcast time or he's so lazy that he'll just do whole

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shows for other people.

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If they give him talking points and like a skeleton.

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Sure.

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When this episode began, I was pretty confused about why Alex was getting so defensive about

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that alleged Microsoft CIA report that wasn't about him.

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It came out six days prior and I don't think it's been brought up on the show until this

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point.

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It makes total sense now though, with the context that Nick Fuentes is coming up on

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the show.

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Yeah.

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Nick was named in that report.

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Alex doesn't really give a shit about this report.

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He's just doing all of this content on Nick's behalf, but he's trying to make it seem less

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like that this is like what he's doing by making it about himself and Tucker and Bannon.

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This is like, I think when you look at what this show is, this particular episode, it

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seems like it could all be explained by Nick having four requests for Alex.

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And that is yell about this report that mentions me, deflect about Trump's connections to Qatar,

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harass Laura Loomer and be a real antisemitic dick.

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And those are all four things that are primarily what Nick wants.

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I hate to say this really, really feels like brokered spawn comp.

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But it really does.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it is inauthentic at the very least.

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It feels a bit like when you find out the first time that people who go on late night

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shows, the anecdotes have been very, very meticulously poured over and tightened.

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That whole exchange on the couch.

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That's been written out well in advance, that kind of thing.

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That feeling of this is all...

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It feels stupid to say, but it's like in many ways, this is supposed to be all an act.

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In one way, it's not supposed to be.

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And in this way it is.

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Yeah.

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And I think that I don't particularly...

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I mean, I care.

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I think it's less problematic for me when one of his episodes is very obviously like,

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oh, economic turmoil.

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Oh my God, all of these storylines.

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And then that's a feeder into his gold sales guy.

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Because that's just kind of a pump and dump.

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It's just a financial scam that they're running.

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And I think that when the episodes are that, it's not really all that interesting.

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But this is, it feels like the same thing, except instead of selling gold, it's Nazi.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean...

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And that's shit.

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It is like, I am going to promote Fuentes as a way of regaining relevance, by associating

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with this prevailing wind Nazi.

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I'll kind of have something there.

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And then the profit is just, I want these Nazis to buy my pills.

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Yeah.

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I don't...

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That's where my fundamental confusion is.

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And it's something that I can't answer without private documents of Alex's.

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But is it sincerely just a trying to tap into this other market and chasing the popularity

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of this young Nazi?

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Or is it like Nick is paying to be on the show to try and poach Alex's audience?

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And I don't know.

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In the past, I would have been much more reluctant to think maybe he's paying to be

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on the show.

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Just straight up brokered.

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Yeah.

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But I don't know anymore.

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I have no idea.

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How could you?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This shit's crazy.

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Yeah.

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And this episode is so notably bait.

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It's so notably antisemitic.

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It's so down.

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It's like a Nick episode.

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You know how Lost has a Sawyer episode?

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Yeah.

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It's a bottle episode.

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Yeah.

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This is a self-contained antisemitism episode.

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And that's a large...

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It feels kind of similar to the last time Nick was on.

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That felt like an antisemitic bottle episode too.

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Yeah.

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It really feels like there's at least an influence, whatever Nick is doing.

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And if you wanted to be like, this is how their structuring goes.

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If you wanted it to be Alex going, I am going to try and say some really inflammatory shit.

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So that'll get people listening when you come on.

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That kind of idea is that, okay, now people will find a way to like, oh shit, he's saying

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it real.

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Yeah, it will hit the nose.

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Exactly.

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Hit the gas.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And that'll be right whenever everybody, all the numbers will come and right as we crescendo

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to your interview.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's gross.

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Whatever the motivation for it is, is disgusting and toxic.

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Great guys.

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So Trump, good guy.

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Good guy.

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Good guy.

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They're all great guys.

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He doesn't want regime change.

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No.

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Today.

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Well.

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I'm going to shut up now and go take a point test.

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But to me, this is very positive that Trump finally gets it now says, okay, no regime

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change.

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I'm really mad at the Israelis.

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And hopefully he...

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I'm mad.

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Because this is how he always operates and he gets roped in.

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And so I don't know what Nick's going to say.

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I follow him almost every day, but I didn't watch what he said last night.

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I pretty much do every day.

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At least I catch them at night or I catch it in the morning, but I did not today.

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Seems like Trump's policy on regime change shouldn't be a day to day thing that keeps...

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He keeps getting tricked about.

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That seems like bad leadership.

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The thing that...

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People sometimes think that things are excuses when in fact they are disqualifying failures.

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They're indictments.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like, oh no, this is what happens.

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He gets roped in.

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Do you mean he's fired?

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I'm firing you.

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I'm firing...

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah, isn't that his catchphrase?

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You're fired?

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You're roped in.

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What?

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Yeah, you don't get roped in.

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That's not...

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You can't.

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You can't.

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You cannot.

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Yeah, you're the leader.

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Jesus.

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Also pretty embarrassing for Alex to say that he watches Nick's show every day.

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That's definitely not true.

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But the funnier part is Alex being so clear that he didn't watch today, so he has no idea

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what Nick's going to say.

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Just in case he has to distance himself.

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Like Nick still could go too far and Alex is keeping that door cracked just a little

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bit.

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Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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Keeping my eye on the door, making sure I have a clear path.

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Yeah, that one's classic showbiz.

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That old like, hey, I love this guy.

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I'm a huge fan.

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Watch his show every day.

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Didn't watch today.

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Weird.

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You'd think I would because he's on the show, but it's weird.

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Yeah.

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He might be on one.

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Who knows?

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Wild.

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So I noticed in this exchange, we track the monkey behavior dominance hierarchies of Alex

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and Nick.

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Yes.

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And Alex is full on subservient.

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Okay.

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Nick is alpha in this exchange for sure.

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Wow.

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Well, Nick Fuentes is a very exceptional young person.

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You can agree or disagree with some of the things he says and I do, but he's 26 years

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old.

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He's been on the political scene nine, 10 years, exploded onto it.

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And all I've done since I was 10 years old is study, not all I've done, but I mean, I'm

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big in geopolitics and I've talked about that family that was all into it.

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Some family was in intelligence and things and were anti establishment.

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So I grew up, you know, John Birch society, people, all that type of stuff.

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So I had a real leg up.

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We're listening to Nick.

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His family really wasn't even in politics.

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I don't know how he got so informed so quick.

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But imagine when he's 51, how much he'll know.

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Hopefully we're not here and haven't blown ourselves up or AI hasn't killed us all.

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But Nick, there's so much to unpack here.

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So let's go through it here and I want you to wherever you want to.

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We got a lot of time here.

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I appreciate the time.

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This episode has an entirely subservient energy that Alex is displaying for Nick.

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And you can feel that even in how he's comparing himself to Nick.

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This isn't Alex saying something like one day, if you work real hard, you might be the

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next me.

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It's him saying this kid is going to be so much better than me one day.

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Look at him when he's my age.

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He's going to be amazing.

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And make no mistake about it.

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Ever since Alex has known Nick, he's known he's a Nazi.

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Millie Weaver texted him about hanging out with him and with Nick and his fans and was

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like, they aren't joking about this.

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She complained multiple times to him that Alex shouldn't associate with Nick.

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So there's no way that he can fake some kind of ignorance on this.

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Like he's full on like, I'm breaking the glass or whatever.

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I'm just, this is fine now.

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This is paternal.

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Yeah.

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This is paternal at this point.

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I'm proud of the Nazi son.

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I'm proud of the boy.

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I'm so proud of this boy, he's going to be the quarterback.

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I want to be the dad that teaches this kid about the seal of Solomon when he's eight.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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So gross.

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So Alex is clearly supposed to bring up this Microsoft CIA report.

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Because he set the table for it earlier in the episode.

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He started to build the narrative and now the payoff is supposed to be Nick complaining

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that he's in this report.

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And Alex doesn't bring up the report before Nick has a chance to bring it up.

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And you can almost feel Alex being like, oh, I'm so sorry that I didn't get to that in

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time.

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Mr. Stop.

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I'm going to give you all the time you need.

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But since I was about to launch this and you launched it, so I just want to preface it

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for everybody.

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This is a big deal.

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Okay.

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I was waiting for this.

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This is actually the biggest thing we were going to talk about.

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I was about to go there 10 seconds before he just threw it out, which I'm glad you did.

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Let me explain.

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A publicly Israeli funded run Microsoft USAID funded previous people said, well, Trump's

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in its front load with CIA funding to these NGOs.

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They come out on June 14th.

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Right before the attacks and all this rolls out, then right when the attack happens, they

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come out with the New York Post, which is, you know, a Israel mouthpiece, basically,

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and say there's all these Russian and Iranians attempting to destroy Trump.

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And they're there.

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It says they're imposters.

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They're not Maga, which then all the people being paid, the influencers, the bots all

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put out.

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But then when you read the report, their main threat is there's going to be terror attacks

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and things.

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And when those happen, we don't want anyone to say it's a false flag, which now Levin

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and all the rest of them are saying so right is that they're about to launch the attack.

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And then the days into it, they put out the big reports all over that Alex Jones and Nick

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Floyntez and all these people and Tucker Carlson were all just agents.

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And everybody else is a bot boosting them and they list us all.

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And they're worried.

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They're going to say there's a false flag.

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And then Mark Levin goes, don't worry, we're still going to war.

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We're slow to take over Iran because the Iranian sleeper cells are about to hit us.

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But look out.

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Tucker Carlson is Ilker in a sense, a false flag show.

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Here they are preemptively getting ready, literally Israel and the deep state.

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And it's all right there.

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I mean, you talk about telegraphing.

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It almost makes too much sense.

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It almost does.

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Yeah.

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I have to say this before I get into any of this.

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I have no interest in defending the Network Contagion Research Institute.

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I've read the report that Alex and Nick are talking about and looked over a little more

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of their output.

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And I think the NCRI may be a little bit of a dubious source.

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To give you some sense of what I mean, in March, they put out a report titled How Online

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Extremists Hijacked Christ is King.

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And the second author that's listed in the contributor section is Dr. Jordan B. Peterson.

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So this is maybe not serious, not a serious outlet.

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That being said, all of the stuff that Alex is saying is incorrect.

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The NCRI is not run by the deep state or funded by Israel.

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They did partner with the ADL's Center for Extremism for a series of reports, so there

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may be some relationship between the two groups, but I'm not sure how deep that goes.

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Alex has presented no evidence that there's USAID funding or any of that other stuff,

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so I'm going to leave that to the side because there's a bigger problem.

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Alex said they rolled out this report on June 14th in anticipation of the attack, so they

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could preemptively discredit people who called things false flags and brand them as MAGA

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imposters.

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The problem is that the report was released on June 18th, so Alex's timeline's a little

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bit screwy and convenient for him.

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Wow.

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Alex further claims that he and Tucker were listed and called agents in this report, which

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isn't true.

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Nick is listed along with Jake Shields and Jackson Hinkle, but even they aren't called

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agents of Russia or Iran.

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They're referred to as quote, marginal non-credible domestic actors who are quote, engagement-dependent

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personalities operating in the periphery of MAGA discourse.

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Ooh, talk dirty to me.

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The report says quote, as they lack institutional affiliation or consistent ideology, they subsist

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on narrative opportunism and algorithmic volatility.

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Their alignment with state-seeded propaganda arises from relevance hunger, social isolation,

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and the incentives of digital attention economies.

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Sure.

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A fair amount of what they're saying is pretty accurate.

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That is right on the money.

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But I'm not sure about the periphery part.

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Sure.

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That might be a story that these people are telling themselves to be like, well Trump

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isn't that bad.

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It'd be nice.

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It'd be nice.

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It's almost a delusion of neutrality or central-centerism.

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What?

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That's never, I've never seen that happen before.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So in addition to these names, the report lists a different tier of influencers who

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are the narrative seeders alleged to be working in service of Iran or Russia.

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Sure.

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There's a response called Draven Noctis, Adim Media, and Megatron Ron, none of which are

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Alex or Tucker or even Nick.

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Yeah.

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Alex is lying about this report and creating a false version of it to discuss, which it

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seems painfully clear is something that he's just doing on Nick's behalf.

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That clip has the energy of someone who doesn't want to get yelled at for not doing their

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job.

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Like Alex had fucked up by not introducing this topic before Nick got to it.

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Alex feels almost like a butler.

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Like, oh no, no, I didn't sweep up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's weird.

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It is interesting.

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I mean, I guess, I guess what happens, here's how I see it in the real world is that Fuentes

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got named and this was super duper exciting because now we've got something that is like,

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oh, they're attacking me.

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And then, you know, Alex can help them zhuzh it up, get the story going.

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So now we've got an actual, like, oh, this is a whole crucifixion kind of angle for it.

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They're coming after Nick Fuentes and all of us, but I guess there's not actually anything

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there.

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No.

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Right?

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So Alex has to make up a completely different story.

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Yeah.

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To prime everybody.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And all of it is in service of like a lot of very convenient things for Nick.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It's weird because this report doesn't matter.

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No.

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It's really just like, hey, here's an opportunity to pretend we're under attack.

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Narrative driven opportunism and algorithmic volatility.

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And the reason they're hanging out is social isolation.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Kind of nailed it.

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Yeah, that's right on.

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So Alex just yells and complains about a fake version of this report that he's created in

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his head to defend Nick.

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And totally, we got to do more on this.

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Just listen to me listeners.

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I have never seen such naked telegraphing.

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Okay.

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So their case study is false flag, but it's all about anybody says false flag is a Russian

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or Iranian, Kritarian propagandas.

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Then not just Levent is literally a Mossad agent.

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I mean, just it's obvious.

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A mouthpiece of the Lakuten experiment.

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The Pentagon is saying, oh, the attacks are coming.

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Ha ha ha.

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We'll get Iran.

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But don't listen to people that say it's a false flag.

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It is totally pre-programmed.

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He goes, oh, they're going to blame fellow Americans.

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No, we're going to blame Mossad agents, buddy.

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And so this means 100 percent they're doing.

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I mean, this is because they're geared up, they're ready and they're scared of this.

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We've got to get ahead of this.

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But then separately, I'll give you the floor separately in all of this.

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They also then say anybody that disagrees with the war is an imposter.

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And then all the talking points because I didn't read the report when it came out a

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few weeks ago, folks, I only read it like two days ago because I started I read part

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of it.

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I read the article about the report.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm like, wait a minute.

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Impostors undermining Magan.

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I was seeing that by all the bots and Laura Loomer and all of them.

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And then I actually read the report a few days ago.

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Oh, my God.

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I went to look at the accounts.

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It's word for word.

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They've paid these influencers, obviously.

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This is a Mossad.

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Bill Gates, Deep State attacked.

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And then the idiots have put their whole blueprint right here.

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This is the Death Star plans.

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They have fucked up, Nick.

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This is huge.

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Alex is making up all of this.

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But what I find kind of magical about that clip is the way you can feel Alex's excitement

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at discovering how he can make these pieces fit together to build a story.

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He's pulling in whatever he can and pretending that this report said that anyone who opposes

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war with Iran is an enemy agent.

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And he wraps it up with a little bow.

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It's almost as if he's asking, like, is that good enough, Nick?

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Have I done a good job?

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He's presenting this bullshit he rattled off like it's for Nick's approval.

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Sign off on this.

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Can I clock out?

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Is the check signed?

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I mean, yeah, that's it's very obvious.

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Well, it's not obvious, but the behavior matches with that.

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Like it's not it's not proof.

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But this is the kind of behavior you would see if that were the case.

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I mean, it's it's just yeah, it's I I'm doing a job.

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I am do I am here doing a job.

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I am not here doing my show.

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I'm not here doing this.

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I'm a contractor.

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You've hired me out to perform this behavior.

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Yes, right.

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That the part of it that's like he is doing a job.

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That is obvious.

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Yeah.

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But whether or not it's a job that's like brokered programming kind of job.

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It's a job that's just like I got nothing else to do today.

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That's a good question.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm desperate for content.

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This seems popular on Twitter.

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Yeah.

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If you if you get hired to build somebody's house, then you're like, yeah, look at it.

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Look, I've got this thing.

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I've got this going.

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I've got this place right here for you.

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This is this is a really good house.

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I'm building you a really good house.

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Yeah.

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At the same time, I feel like if I was his friend and I was in his vicinity while he

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goes on that whole rant about how all this like, I couldn't help but just none of this

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is real, man.

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Stop it.

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Stop it.

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Stop it.

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Like it's yeah, I get out there.

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I can't figure out like if he's getting paid or if he's doing it on spec.

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That's the that's what I can't really.

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It's about exposure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If Alex is working for exposure, we're in real trouble.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, I think that the tone that they have between them is captured in this clip.

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They're even running the game on the conservative base, on the Trump supporters saying, hey,

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if Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are against this, they turned on Trump.

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They're fake MAGA.

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They're manipulating MAGA.

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And you're right.

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It's literally word for word in the Murdoch owned New York Post.

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They say they're trying to manipulate Murdoch base by posing as MAGA and saying they oppose

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the war and by being propped up by Iranian bots.

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They're giving this impression that their opinion is used in a real quick.

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You're totally right.

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They even say impostor.

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So here's what is important.

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This is an elite globalist brainwashing point.

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But when I first saw it a few weeks ago, they had an implement in it.

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Then I noticed it was implemented.

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The point is, this is the battle plan.

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That's what folks.

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Have the plan, the Mossad plan right here, which means imminent false flag, brother.

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This is bad.

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It is.

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And everybody needs to be on high alert.

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I mean, I'm really concerned about traveling airports.

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This is embarrassing.

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Alex is horribly overselling this thing.

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And even Nick doesn't feel like he wants that spin that Alex is going a little too far.

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Yeah.

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In wrestling, this is what's called a style clash.

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Sometimes a big beefy guy and a little flippy guy, they have good chemistry and their different

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styles compliment each other.

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But sometimes they're just not on the same page and you can tell.

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The way their performances intersect with each other serves to break the illusion of

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kayfabe instead of deepening it.

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And that's how this feels.

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Alex is in Salesman.

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The sky is falling.

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We finally found the key to solve the mystery mode.

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Whereas Nick is trying to sanitize himself to Alex's audience and he's looking to come

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off like a studious guy who's being unfairly attacked by this report.

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It doesn't work together.

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And the two of them are kind of working against purposes.

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Alex is just doing this embarrassing over the top thing.

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Yeah.

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And it feels desperate.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that.

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OK.

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So if what we're looking at is actually trying to find allies, if this makes sense.

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So in the coming clash between far right media figures, we'll have, you know, obviously there'll

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be multiple sides, probably based around some form of bigotry or misogyny, one or the other.

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This feels like it was enough.

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Yeah.

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This feels like people feeling out who's actual allies and who's not going to be allies in

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the coming struggle.

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Sure.

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You know what I mean?

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But the problem is on the show, they're both trying to be allies to the wrong show.

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Well Alex, you know, yeah.

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Alex is trying to be like, this is how I promote you.

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Right.

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It's like all the people who watch my show are going to laugh at this.

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Yep.

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Because you're an embarrassing old douche.

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You suck.

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You're being a dork trying to say that this report is the battle plan of Mossad that reveals

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that false flags are imminent.

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It just seems overly desperate.

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It seems like somebody who's like, they don't even think tomorrow matters.

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I don't care what this story, I don't care what reality I'm implying with this story.

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Anything.

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And tomorrow it will mean nothing.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's the difference between them.

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Nick understands tomorrow exists.

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Nick, you know, he believes tomorrow exists for sure.

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Yeah.

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So Nick and Alex, they're both a little bit worried about the idea that Israel might take

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over the United States.

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Sure.

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Aren't we all?

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I mean, hey, they could walk in.

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And in discussing this, Alex, I think he says something that he really, really shouldn't

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have.

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Totally agree.

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I think, you know, as far as Mark Levin is concerned, that guy's totally, he might as

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well be in the IDF.

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And as far as the Hezbollah pagers are concerned, you know, this is something that it doesn't

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take a big imagination.

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If Israel can carry out this kind of intelligence penetration of Iran and Hezbollah, you have

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to assume they could do it to us.

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And that's sort of terrifying.

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You know, what would if there was a conflict between the U.S. and Israel, who would win?

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I think it's kind of an open question.

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You'd assume to be us because we're so much bigger and more powerful.

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But you know, if they have a man inside the White House and inside the Pentagon and inside

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Google and all the rest of it, and with A.I. and drones, you know, it's sort of a question.

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And that is what I'm concerned about is, you know, in the big picture, how this is going

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to affect balance of power in the Middle East and the world.

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So I, you know, U.S. of Israel, I don't think that's far off.

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I think that's kind of the point.

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Yeah.

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I mean, look, Israel was the client state of the British empire in the U.S.

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Now it openly says it's the most focused faction.

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It's put its people in everything.

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And Israel, after China, is the greatest national security threat to this country and world

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peace.

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That's just a fact.

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And they've now with them going into full offense, I try to give it energy because they

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Israel goes and stages false flags against itself since the 50s.

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They love it.

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OK, so the more you attack it and just attack Jews in general, the more power they get.

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OK, folks, I don't want to attack Jews in general.

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Most of them aren't sophisticated like everybody else.

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But at a certain point, when it gets so bad and the cancer spreading quickly, I'm like,

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well, we're past the point of return now.

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We just got a full, full guns.

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And I've I've always exposed all this stuff, but I've been attacked fully.

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And now we're in such danger of nuclear war.

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I'm just like floodgates, whatever.

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Floodgates.

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This might literally be the worst thing that Alex could possibly say to explain his shift

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over being way more anti-Semitic as well as being way more anti-Israel in the recent months.

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Alex is saying that he hasn't been very vocal about Israel in the past because they're too

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powerful and that criticizing them plays into their hands.

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They love false flagging themselves so they can play the victim.

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So Alex has historically just given them a pass.

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On one hand, this just isn't true.

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Throughout his career, Alex has had varying views on Israel, depending on what's convenient

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for him at the time.

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And he was even a fan of Netanyahu during Trump's first term.

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He's also been very critical of Israel at times when it's been in his interest, like

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at the beginning of the COVID vaccine rollout where there was high uptake in Israel.

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There isn't a coherent through line of his position on the Israeli government.

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But Alex now seems to be saying that he's been going easy on them.

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This isn't shifting toward being more critical of the Israeli government in terms of policy

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or action.

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He's becoming more outwardly anti-Semitic.

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That's what he's made a conscious effort to go easy on over the course of his career and

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what he's testing the waters of letting go of now.

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This isn't even close to subtle, what he's saying.

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This is like, yeah, over the course of my career, I've gotten a lot of criticism from

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anti-Semites and Nazis about how I don't say globalists.

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It means Jews.

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I don't encourage people to be Nazis.

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And the floodgates are open now.

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Fuck it.

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Who cares?

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I mean, you know, it's a return to that good old fashioned American exceptionalism, anti-Semitism

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from the old days, you know, back in the 1890s, whenever they were really doing it upright.

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Well, I mean, it goes back to that, you know, him coming in from break with no more Mr.

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Nice Guy.

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This is the image that he's trying to send across to the audience.

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It's like, I have been overly nice to you Jewish people, to Jewish people, because being

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mean to you is just, it serves Israel's interests.

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It's strategically not in my interests to be a Nazi.

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But now I don't give a fuck.

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Yeah.

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That's bad.

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This is really bad because on the one hand, he's saying, hey, Nazism is cool now.

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And then the second thing that he's saying is I've been lying over the entire course

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of my career.

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I've been pretending that I don't actually kind of hate all Jewish people.

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But I do.

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I do.

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And I've just strategically pretended that I didn't.

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Yeah, it is interesting what people will say when you're not around, you know, because

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that to me is something that if he and I were in the room together, that's something that

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is like, okay, well then we're done here.

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Yeah, I'd walk away or hit him.

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Yeah, this is the end of whatever peaceful exchange this was going to be.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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And in this circumstance, he doesn't feel like that's what he's doing.

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You know, like this feels like just like, no, no, no.

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See, it's okay.

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He gets roped into things.

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It's not bad that I'm saying it's got its people everywhere.

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It's not bad that I'm saying the Jews are unsophisticated.

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That's not bad.

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This is me explaining why I've been nice to all of these people for all that.

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Like that's...

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He wants like some kind of like virtue points for not being a Nazi all of these years.

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But it's in service of him saying now it's time that it's fine.

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It's cool now.

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That's crazy.

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See, I've been a secret Nazi this whole time, pushing the cause of Nazism forward in a much

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more acceptable way.

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Don't you think I deserve virtue points for not being more of an open Nazi?

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Now, the last time that Nick was on the show, it was another like pretty deeply anti-Semitic

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outburst.

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Sure.

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Well, he's a Nazi.

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And the next day it was back to pretending that that isn't the case.

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I'm not a Nazi.

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Right.

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So there is a part of me that understands that like this isn't necessarily indicative

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of him being like, all right, we're gonna be Nazis every day now.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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But this is raising the temperature in a way that is real.

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And it's fucked up.

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Like whether or not it's a bottle episode, it has an effect on the people who are listening

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to it.

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And he can fuck right off.

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So they take some calls.

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Great.

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Good.

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And Alex gets one call in particular that he thinks is complimenting him, but then has

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to quickly realize, oh, this person might be crazy.

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Mark in Florida, you're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Hello, Alex.

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If you had a ticker tape translation of your show in Hebrew, you would win the hearts and

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minds of the chosen in Israel who are presently hypnotized by the Shabbatian Frankist.

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You would devastate Bibi Netanyahu and you would devastate the Shabbatian Frankist by

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taking over the power of the chosen people.

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You would win their hearts and minds.

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Just put a ticker tape, AI translation of your show on your program and you were going

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to devastate them.

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Well, if somebody wants to do it, please do it.

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The show, I want to reach people in Israel, too.

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I know that Israel is very diverse than it is.

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I don't blame people for the general public in Israel for, you know, the Likudniks.

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But I mean, I just don't want to see this war get everybody killed.

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Anything else?

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This is coming from Ariel Cohen Aloro, who has been dying to come on your show for years.

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He is the so-called advocate that Jesus spoke about.

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He can prove that in Ghematria.

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He can prove that with mathematics.

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What's his name?

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What's his name?

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Ariel Cohen Aloro is begging you to put him on the air so that he can explain to you.

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I don't know how you explain this, but it sounds interesting.

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I'm not trying to cut you off.

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It's just we're out of time.

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We are out of time.

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We're out of time.

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Sorry, buddy.

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Buddy, I just...

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You just brought up Ghematria.

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We gotta go.

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You're going to talk about Bible math.

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Oh, boy.

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Yeah, but Alex thought that that was a compliment.

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He should have known when he said like the Shabbatian Frankins.

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That's like a direct thing to like David Icke anti-Semitic conspiracies.

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He has to know like...

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It's weird because on the one hand, you imagine he does know and he's just ignoring this.

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This like very strong indication of what this guy is talking about.

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Possible.

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But is it possible that he just doesn't care and that doesn't register for him?

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I don't know why he would spend his free time looking into this person.

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He's argued with David Icke about the Frankists.

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He argues with anybody about anything.

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True.

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He'll argue with you about what sidewalks should be made of.

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He doesn't know anything about making up a sidewalk.

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Gold.

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See?

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That's what they have in heaven.

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That's what they have in heaven.

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Sidewalks in heaven.

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Yeah, everything is better in heaven.

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Therefore, sidewalks of gold.

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Better.

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That is inarguable logic.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Fair enough.

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That call was a bummer, but it's a good way for him to be like, we're out of time.

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I don't do this anymore.

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So here's something that's fun, right?

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But also here's why the internet should be exploded.

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I have worked with a lot of different people in a lot of different jobs over the years

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and there have been at least, you know, I would say one out of every two to three jobs,

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there would be somebody that I was working with who would say something that would reveal

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a batshit belief that you're like, well, no human being could possibly believe that.

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And they do.

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And what you can do is just go like, we don't have to talk.

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We'll just do our jobs.

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We'll just do our jobs, right?

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Like that guy, the grammetrian guy.

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You hang up.

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Boy, buddy, we can just go to work.

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We can just go to work.

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Why are you calling into Alex?

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Yeah, if this comes up around me, we will talk about other things.

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We can just go to work, man.

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I have a lot of thoughts about Survivor and Donkey Kong that I can share with you.

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Have you ever seen the TV?

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Anything on the TV?

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Anything on the TV?

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Now Donkey Kong, when you break down the name with math, oh God.

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No, no.

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Ah, Jesus.

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And I can prove to you that Funky is the best Kong.

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No, you can't.

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We can just work together, man.

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So we have one last clip here, and it's Nick conceding a very important point.

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And that is that there may be some good Israelis out there.

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It's possible.

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I mean, maybe.

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There's certainly some good Israelis.

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I think, you know, Ron Oons is a good Jew here in America who would agree with us.

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But I think a lot of the Israelis, you know, they're, I think they're pretty stubborn.

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You know, there's a long history in the Bible of very stubborn and, you know, they kind

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of lose their way a little bit.

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Maybe that's happening now.

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What do you think of Michael Savage?

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What do you think of Michael Savage coming out and saying we need to get rid of Netanyahu?

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Alex was talking over him a little bit, but Nick said at the end there, the chosen people

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are us.

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Yes, yes.

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So Nick says there might be some good Israelis out there.

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Then his example that he has is Ron Oons.

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Oons is a straight up Holocaust denier who was born in Los Angeles, but whose parents

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were Jewish immigrants from Ukraine.

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He's in no way Israeli, but he is Jewish, which Nick treats as the same thing, which

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is weird.

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And you can see that Alex does the same thing when he brings up Michael Savage.

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He's an American who was born in New York, but his parents were Jewish.

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Like this is just them talking about Jewish people, but pretending they're talking about

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Israel or Israelis.

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This is fucking garbage.

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And this is the direction that Alex's show is going on.

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If there is a meaningful shift that's happening, there's a lot of stuff about his disenchantment

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with Trump and weird energy around Elon Musk and all that stuff that is very important.

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But this is a damn breaking.

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This is a 30 year damn breaking that I don't know how you can walk back.

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The stuff with Trump, like yeah, sure, you spend a decade kissing this guy's ass and

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making excuses for all the things that he's done.

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But you did that with Ron Paul too.

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This is way more high profile and embarrassing.

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And sure, there's going to be baggage you're going to have to carry for a while, but you

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can shift.

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It's going to be painful.

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You're going to lose some people.

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You're going to have to invoke a lot of cognitive dissonance for people to go along with it.

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But this, I don't know how you go back from.

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Being like, I've known since I was eight that the star of David is a secret seal that controls

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demons.

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I don't know how you're supposed to like, you don't go back.

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You know, I mean, I wonder if what we should be learning or the lesson that we should have

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learned is that these people were already crazy.

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Yes.

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When we thought they were not and that there was never any going back because it's already

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too deep in a hole that like, I am the one who creates the paradigms is right next to,

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I think we are the chosen people.

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These people are insane.

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Yeah.

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This is insane.

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You can't be the chosen people and also fucking go to a Walgreens.

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That's not how God works.

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I am the Tom Brady of this shit.

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I'm the best there is.

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And now let me do four minutes of an impression of a Jewish guy hypnotizing an audience.

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You're all fucking crazy.

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I don't know, man.

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I think that this episode is dog shit.

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I think it sucks.

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I think that Alex should be ashamed of himself.

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I think that there is a best case scenario that Nick paid him to do it.

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Like that's me trying to be as generous as possible with my interpretation of what caused

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this.

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If he didn't get paid to do this, then he's a fucking disgrace.

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He is a neo-Nazi and has been lying to his audience for 30 years about what he actually

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believes.

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I sincerely hope for his sake that he got paid.

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And fuck him.

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I mean, not enough.

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Whatever amount it is, it's not enough.

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So anyway, we still have the Epstein list.

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Coming soon to a theater near you.

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And we'll check in and see how Alex navigates all this territory.

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But until then, we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgeright.com.

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Yep, we'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DCX Clark.

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I am the mysterious professor.

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Woo yeah woo yeah woo!

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.