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Dan and George. Knowledge Fight.

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Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are. Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for ya.

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Sup.

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What's your bright spot today buddy?

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My- I- I have to be honest with you.

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Oh yeah?

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I don't have a bright spot today.

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You don't have a bright spot today.

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But I do have a dark spot.

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Okay.

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I'm pointing at you.

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Yeah I can feel you.

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I'm staring you straight in the face.

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You're not wearing your pinky ring though so it doesn't feel as strong.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And it's because I don't deserve to be wearing a pinky ring because I am my own dark spot.

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Damn.

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Dark.

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Now here's what I'm saying.

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Okay.

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Um. I have not bought a Switch 2.

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You have not.

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And I told myself, what's the rush?

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Hahahaha.

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Who cares? Who cares? There's nothing to play on it.

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There's nothing to play on it.

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I don't like Mario racing. I don't like the karts.

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No.

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So I can't drive. I don't- I don't want to do that.

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So I told myself, who cares?

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Who cares?

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It doesn't matter until Donkey Kong comes out.

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That's true.

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Now we are sitting here today on the day that Donkey Kong releases.

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Yeah.

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And I realize-

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You don't have one.

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I don't have one.

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Eee.

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And if I had acted sooner-

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Eee.

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There's a chance that I could have one in place to play Donkey Kong on now.

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Right.

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But I didn't.

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I didn't- I didn't believe that today would exist in the past.

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Right. Right. Right.

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Um. And so now I'm left with no Switch 2 and no Donkey Kong.

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And I have no one to blame but myself.

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Uh. You know, what I think you should do.

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Uh. What I like to do is I like to trifurcate.

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Alright?

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Present Dan. Disappointed in past Dan.

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Future Dan. Always possible to pick things up.

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Sure.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That's the way you gotta view it.

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Past Dan. He's a real piece of shit.

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You're never gonna see him again though.

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So that's nice.

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Doesn't really exist.

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Doesn't really exist. He's gone.

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Present Dan. You know what you need to do.

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Future Dan. Get on it!

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Okay.

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Yep.

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That's a okay pep talk.

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I'm trying.

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I'm gonna go get those bananas.

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Go get em. Go get that Kong.

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So what's your bright spot?

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Uh. My bright spot.

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Uh. Very lovely down to earth.

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Uh. Wonderful day date with my wife yesterday.

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We walked over to the farmers market.

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Sure.

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We got some ice cream cones. Waffle cone my friend.

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Uh.

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Fresh waffle cone?

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Yeah. And they put ice cream in it obviously.

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We didn't just buy em in a bag.

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What kind of ice cream?

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Uh. I had milk and cookies.

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Okay.

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Uh. She went with the raspberry sour bay.

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Was. Okay. So they have at the farmers market

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there was someone selling ice cream?

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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And it was like 90 degrees.

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Uh.

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That's exactly when you want ice cream.

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It was a perfect day and then we made ourselves a nice little dinner.

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It was fantastic. Couldn't have been better.

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Made a nice little dinner from things you got at the farmers market?

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Uh. Some things but mainly not.

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No.

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Just uh. Just old groceries.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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It's nice there's a. You know. One of the upsides I guess of living in a city

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is those farmers markets do pop up.

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Yeah.

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And it is cool to go in and see some nice vegetables.

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It is. It's fun. It's fun. There was a guy with fish.

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And you're like what? A frozen fish guy but it wasn't frozen. It was fresh fish.

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A fish monger makes more sense to me than an ice cream guy.

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That's. I'm less surprised to hear that there was a fish person.

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Yeah. A fish monger. A grocer.

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Uh. These types of things.

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A green grocer?

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A green grocer. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Uh. Yeah.

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Bagels.

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Ice cream person. It seems. I guess. I. I. I.

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They're probably just scooping it right?

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Yeah.

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It's not a soft serve.

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They weren't. They weren't making it at the. In the moment.

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Oh. Okay.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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It was not being churned.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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So. Uh. Jordan. Today we have an episode to go over.

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Uh huh.

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We're going to be talking about June 21st and 22nd.

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Alright.

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2025.

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Okay.

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We are here in a situation where um. Trump is about to bomb Iran.

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Right.

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And the civil war in the United States is still ongoing.

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And Alex killed Gene Heckman.

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Yes.

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Uh. But these. Uh. Alex has reported to us that the fever of war has broken.

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The war fever. Yeah.

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And that Trump has realized like. Oh. I gotta give Iran time to negotiate. This is. You know.

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He's played up our dear leader as being a masterful peacemaker.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Meanwhile behind the scenes Trump has already decided. I'm going to bomb Iran.

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Not so much a peacemaker.

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And that is coming to a head.

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Right.

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And so we're going to talk. We're talking about Saturday and Sunday. Saturday is before the bombing.

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Uh huh.

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And then Sunday is after.

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Uh huh.

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So we'll see how that vibe goes.

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Okay.

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But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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That's a great idea.

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So first happy birthday Scruffy Corgi. May we enjoy more Knowledge Fight episodes to come.

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Love Chunky Chipmunk. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next Dr. Steven Jones. Whenever we work our out our chests together we are truly working on Dr. Jones's big nap.

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Dr. Jones's big naturals. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And Sierra from Brooklyn who hates Trump and Adam jokes. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And we got a technograd in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much too.

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I finally caught up to the present but started listening on the day y'all were on Stelter because I had COVID and had never heard of Alex Jones but the podcast sounded cool to my fevered brain.

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Min Sung is real pronounced Min Sung where you make an O with your mouth but say oh. Thank you so much. You're now a technograd.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark. Bomp bomp bomp bomp bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much.

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That really is our target demo. People with fevers.

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Fever brains. Why would I do this? Well you weren't in your right mind at the time. It's fun now but you got to be in a different place to get there.

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So we start off on the 21st. This is Saturday. Alex has no business doing the show on his day off.

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Naturally.

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Whatever he's doing the show.

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Why not?

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And he's discussing a little bit of a conflict that we've mentioned is present and cannot be resolved.

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Right.

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And that is that everyone on the right who's calling for war. They're saying Iran is about to have a bomb.

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Right.

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And Alex is saying they have a hundred bombs.

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Right.

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They got all the nukes already.

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They got so many fucking bombs.

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Yeah and so Alex is discussing how he knows that.

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Okay.

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I know people are smart.

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Do you?

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A lot of people are intelligent.

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Are they?

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But most people are smart in this area or that area. They're informed in a few areas but not a lot of other areas.

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Don't have general historical and then current knowledge.

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And I know the media will kind of put out two different stories. We're supposed to decide which of the two is true.

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I didn't start saying this month that Iran has atomic weapons. I've been saying it for 15 years.

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And I got it directly from a source in CENTCOM.

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And then I over the years talked to other people in intelligence and in the first Trump administration and others.

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And they said yes that's that's indeed true and that's a very closely guarded secret.

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Now I have a track record of having a lot of inside sources on many big stories that later breakred and confirmed.

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But if you just look at the logic of all of this you're supposed to either be for Iran or for Israel.

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And if you are for Israel you say yeah they're always two weeks away for 25 years.

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And if you're pro-Iran you say oh no no they don't have a nuclear program.

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Even though they've officially had one before to try to get a bomb.

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Well I don't go with the two narratives I go with the information I have.

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And to put it simply when you are manufacturing weapons-grade uranium and other materials that can be used for different types of bombs, atomic, hydrogen and others.

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That when that's being produced it's very hard to contain it and it gets in the air and spies can get in and on the ground and collect the air many different ways.

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But through a vent in the front of the car's grill and then it goes into a scoop and gets the samples that are then taken and processed through different types of spectrometers and other devices.

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Then they can also scan from the air and from satellites but it's even more accurate on the ground to actually get the samples.

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And that's what I was told by folks I really trust and I'll just leave it at that.

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So in the interest of treating Alex as fairly as possible I will get his back on the fact that he hasn't just started saying that Iran has nuclear weapons.

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He's said that for a long time though the importance of them having these weapons it varies depending on the world situation.

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Sometimes it's a huge deal and sometimes it's brushed aside but either way it's not a new development. He's right. He's not making that up.

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Alex actually thinks pretty much everyone has nukes and that they're an outdated form of weaponry compared to the magic laser stuff that we secretly have now.

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So yeah, anyone saying that he's a Johnny come lately to this idea is not right.

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Then what was Stuxnet about?

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Who knows.

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It was a false flag probably.

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So I want to talk about Alex's evidence that backs up his idea that Iran has the bomb.

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He says that they have readings from these snoopers on the ground from analyzing air captured by cars running around in Iran.

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Alex says that he has this from people he trusts and he's going to leave it at that.

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And there's a really good reason that he's just leaving it at that.

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It's because this is just something that one of his relatives told him when he was a kid.

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He has no evidence about any of this data collected by snooper cars.

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This is just some stray gossip that he's passing along from one of his patriot ass relatives.

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So he has talked about that in some fairly recent episodes where he's like, you know, you can choose to believe this stuff or not. This is what my family told me.

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And I don't.

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That has very strong comeback vibes. Do you know what I mean?

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Like whenever something exists, mainly because I can hear somebody having a conversation and then somebody being pushed into a corner and somehow coming up with, they already have the bomb.

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And that's, you know what I'm saying?

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Sure. And it's even more comeback energy when you're like, I have it from high level sources that I trust and I'll leave it at that.

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We don't need to talk about it any further. You just have to trust me.

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Right. The image that you want to give off is that I don't want to betray the trust of these very legitimate, very high level sources.

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But what you're actually doing is like, I don't want to admit to you that it was my uncle. I don't want to admit that it was just some random shit talk.

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No, some guy I was talking to told me, why don't you, I mean, they're a high level. It's something.

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Cool. So everyone is either saying, Alex, you're now you're saying that Iran has a bomb or they're accusing him of being crazy for saying that Iran has a bomb and he's trapped in this weird state.

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Now, Trump comes out and says yesterday, we'll play the clip in a moment that, hey, Tulsi Gabbard's wrong. National intelligence is wrong.

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But their official assessment is is wrong. They are building a bomb. They're very, very close. Now, that doesn't mean that I'm support Israel striking them or Trump dropping bunker busters.

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I'm not saying this now because I want to support Netanyahu's position. I've been saying for 15 years because it's what I believe is accurate.

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Now, hold this thought in your mind out there. Those can't seem to understand this. I see a lot of you, millions and millions of views.

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I talk about this yesterday, just a couple videos in my car talking about this. People, a lot of people, probably a third can't understand this.

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If Israel says they're 15 days now, 14 days away from having it, and Trump says they're building it right now, why is it far out that I'm saying for my information, they already have it?

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This is chaos world and there is no agreed upon reality that we share. There is no message discipline from the administration whatsoever.

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Trump appointed Tulsi to be the director of national intelligence, and she testified in March that Iran had not restarted their nuclear weapons program.

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She's in a position to know all of the classified sensitive information, and she was clear about this perspective.

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Trump doesn't want to live in that reality, so he came out and just said she was wrong.

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What you gonna do?

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The person he chose to run the intelligence operations of the country can't be trusted to make a determination about the intelligence operations of our country, and he just big-dogged her.

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The day after Trump came out and said Tulsi was wrong, she came out and said that Iran could have a nuke within weeks or months, and that the media had taken her out of context, that testimony from March.

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Her position apparently has always been that Iran has the materials to make the bomb, but wasn't pursuing it, and I guess if you chose to pursue the bomb, it would take weeks or months for you to do that, from the point of the materials that they have already.

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This is a form of gaslighting, where a neutral state of affairs can be reported differently depending on how you want someone to feel about it.

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In this case, if Iran is trying to develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes and doing nothing wrong, they could debatably be months away from making a bomb at any time.

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It might just take a few months to divert these efforts from power generation to making a bomb, so in a completely peaceful world where Iran is following the letter of the rules that everyone agreed to, you could still say that they were weeks or months away from building a bomb.

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All of the things Tulsi said could be true, but the point depends on how the things are being said.

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In March, she testified that Iran had not restarted its weapons program because the goal was to ease tensions between the United States and Iran.

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Now, the goal is to justify attacking Iran, which Trump has already decided to do, so the messaging becomes focused on how they could make a bomb in weeks or months.

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As for Alex, it's crazy for him to say that Iran has nukes because it's not backed up by any legitimate sources, and if his position becomes more popular, it has a tendency to give war hawks a strong justification to invade.

Unknown Speaker (00:15:11.919)

Like, everyone spent years litigating weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, as if them having weapons of mass destruction would have made everything justifiable.

Unknown Speaker (00:15:22.919)

And the reason for that is why people want to say that Iran has a bomb or is about to have a bomb, because they feel like that would be justification for war.

Unknown Speaker (00:15:33.919)

Yeah, I mean, I feel like you can kind of actually work backwards on this one. The reason to get a bomb is so people can't invade you without you going, I'm going to nuke you. So if we can invade them, they don't have a bomb. It's very simple.

Unknown Speaker (00:15:46.919)

Yeah, maybe. Maybe that logic holds.

Unknown Speaker (00:15:51.919)

Like Russia's not going to invade Ukraine if Ukraine's like, we'll kill everybody, you know?

Unknown Speaker (00:15:56.919)

I think that most of the time, that is a fine axiom. I don't know if it holds all the time, but it's generally a pretty good rule.

Unknown Speaker (00:16:03.919)

I think that Alex, if his mentality is more widely accepted by the GOP hawkish types, if that were the mentality, we would be more likely to go to war with Iran, I think.

Unknown Speaker (00:16:19.919)

And I think that he should know that. He should understand that, but seems to be oblivious.

Unknown Speaker (00:16:24.919)

Anyway, it was going to be Thursday or Friday that Alex said that Trump was going to attack Iran. This did not happen. Because Steve Bannon intervened. He got Trump to choose to negotiate.

Unknown Speaker (00:16:40.919)

And so who's the good guys, who's the bad guys here? Well, I don't like the modalists. And they're an unpopular dictatorship.

Unknown Speaker (00:16:48.919)

Okay, that said, they're not expansionists. They're contained. Israel's wiped out their proxy forces in Lebanon and Gaza and other areas, West Bank. The Houthis have surrendered, at least not to attack our ships anymore to the US or made a deal.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:04.920)

Same difference, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:17:05.920)

And Israel wants to drag us in. Remember, nine days ago, oh, we're just taking other nuclear sites. Oh, no, now we want regime change. We won't negotiate.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:16.920)

And then Trump said he wouldn't negotiate until Thursday after he had a two hour lunch with Steve Bannon. And I talked to Steve, he doesn't like to take credit for things, but I talked to Steve Waner yesterday, but also talked to him a little bit off air.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:30.920)

And he says, man, we talked to the president, basically said he agrees with my analysis, his stand on, his similar analysis. And he said there's a lot of other people telling him to.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:43.920)

He said, obviously, what's in the news is accurate. The majority of his generals and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Cain, are telling him don't do this.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:53.920)

And then he's got.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:56.920)

Carilla.

Unknown Speaker (00:17:58.920)

They had a sitcom.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:00.920)

Who is telling him to do it and head chef, you know, his his American patriot and fought the Middle East and highly decorated, and he does not like the mullahs and their war fighters and Trump wanted generals that like to go to war.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:14.920)

Well, he's got some Trump wanted generals who like to go to war.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:18.920)

What? That's not supposed to be.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:20.920)

Hold. What the fuck is happening? That's not the messaging we're supposed to have. He's the peace guy.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:24.920)

Yeah, this is great.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:26.920)

Good stuff. So what Alex is trying to present is that the majority of the generals and the majority of the Joint Chiefs and all of them have cautioned Trump and he's not going to attack.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:38.920)

Yeah. Thanks to the efforts of people like Steve Bannon intervening.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:43.920)

Why not? Wiser counsel has won the day.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:47.920)

Yeah. It's very clear that that is the messaging that we're receiving on this Saturday.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:52.920)

Sure. And Trump is good.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:55.920)

OK. Trump's real good. OK. He's so good.

Unknown Speaker (00:18:59.920)

No, I'm OK. Trump is good. I'm proud of Trump. He's really trying to be a peacemaker.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:03.920)

He's working for that hard behind the scenes and publicly what he says publicly is what he's doing behind the scenes.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:10.920)

But the scenarios are too dangerous to continue down this road with full confrontation with Iran.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:19.920)

They will block us rid of our moose. They will attack our ships. We will end up going to full war with them.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:24.920)

It'll cause nuclear disasters, blowing up these bases, even conventional weapons.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:28.920)

Yes, Trump's good. Trump's good. And he's not the kind of guy who's going to be saying the one thing publicly and doing something secretly behind the scenes.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:36.920)

I mean, he's not that kind of globalist type.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:39.920)

It's really nice, actually. Frankly, if I was Alex, this would be such a kind moment in its own way, because here we have indisputable things that you have agreed to.

Unknown Speaker (00:19:53.920)

I don't even need to be a part of this. You have said definitively that to be good, Trump must do these things.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:03.920)

He did not do those things. Therefore, he cannot be good. You have no choice. You have locked yourself into this.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:10.920)

Or else you have to introduce a whole new layer of negotiation about what's good.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:15.920)

Yeah, exactly. Are you kidding? That's what our whole show is.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:17.920)

No, no, no, no. I mean, in terms of...

Unknown Speaker (00:20:21.920)

The whole show is watching Alex squirm.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:24.920)

Right, right. No, I mean, in terms of the purposes of this particular situation.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:29.920)

Yeah, he should recognize that this is going to be a deal breaker based on his own terms that he's set up.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:35.920)

Exactly.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:37.920)

But we'll see if that happens on the Sunday show. Who knows?

Unknown Speaker (00:20:40.920)

I will be shocked to find out whatever the answer may be.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:42.920)

So I think that when a president gets elected or a political movement is more ascendant in a country, it can make people more vulnerable, generally.

Unknown Speaker (00:20:56.920)

I think that certainly immigrants, LGBTQ folk, are in more danger now than they were before Trump was reelected.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:06.920)

I think things have escalated. And I think that that is a normal thing to recognize.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:12.920)

I think it's not a normal thing to think, if the president that I like doesn't get elected, I'm personally going to go to prison.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:22.920)

And Alex thinks that. And so does Steve Bannon, which is weird.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:27.920)

If Trump doesn't succeed, and Steve Bannon openly said this when I was on a show a month ago, he said, you know, if Trump doesn't succeed, we're both going to prison.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:34.920)

And I told my family that I never want to evacuate the United States.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:39.920)

And I'll go down with a ship, but gauging it, I mean, if it looks like a Republican isn't going to get in, in three and a half years, I'm going to have to leave so I can continue to fight for the country as an exile.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:53.920)

I mean, I mean, I'm having these discussions with my family, folks. I really want Trump to succeed.

Unknown Speaker (00:21:58.920)

I mean, my eggs are in his basket. I mean, he's the lifeboat. I'm in the North Atlantic, and the water is 30 below zero.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:08.920)

And you fall in that water and you stop breathing in about 10 seconds. You just sink.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:13.920)

You are a totally unreliable source of information, then. Your existence is predicated on Trump staying in power.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:22.920)

That to me feels like Alex is just being, I'm compromised.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:25.920)

What could possibly be corruptible in this scenario? You have somebody in power, right? You have somebody in the fourth estate holding that power to account.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:41.920)

Now, it just so happens that that person holding that power to account is indebted beyond any reasonable degree.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:48.920)

Existentially indebted.

Unknown Speaker (00:22:49.920)

Ah, but as we have established, the person in power is good, so they welcome criticism, thus allowing themselves to become greater than they were before.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:01.920)

They would never throw you out of that boat.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:03.920)

Absolutely. It is because Trump is so good that we can guarantee that his reasoning is not motivated.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:08.920)

Yeah. All of this is really embarrassing a month later.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:12.920)

It should be.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:14.920)

We are living in the present day as we're recording this, not only in the wake of the release of Donkey Kong Bonanza, but we are also living in a time where Trump is lashing out at people who care about Epstein.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:29.920)

And Alex is having to navigate those territories.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:32.920)

And there's a real part of me that wants to speed up and be like, let's get to this.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:37.920)

But I think that what's going on here is a prelude. It's an important piece of this entire chunk of time, which is Alex facing the harshest wiggle he's ever had to try and wiggle.

Unknown Speaker (00:23:51.920)

Like, this is a disaster. Everything is falling apart. You can't support Trump. He's bombing Iran. He's lying to the media. He's lying to you.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:03.920)

He is clearly hiding something about this Epstein shit. He's lashing out at his own supporters about all this. All of this is the point of no return for Alex.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:15.920)

There's only one thing left to do, and it's to become the person you have been lying about being this whole time and abandon the entire political system entirely.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:25.920)

And the reason why this is so difficult is that Alex does feel an existential indebtedness.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:31.920)

You have to.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:33.920)

And you have to be in this really cold water if there isn't someone like Trump whose power allows Alex to fly under the radar.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:43.920)

He needs to make some sort of Aryan Faustian bargain, if you will.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:46.920)

Yeah. So I think that this is a really rich period of time. And as much as I really, really want to get to the Epstein stuff, I really feel like we've got to walk this path.

Unknown Speaker (00:24:56.920)

I mean, it is. If I was going to compare the narratives that we are dealing with right now in Alex's life and their complexity and, you know, bitter absurdity, I would describe it as bitter absurdity because I think I'm going to have to go with like, Turgenev?

Unknown Speaker (00:25:16.920)

Like Chekhov. We're talking like the cherry orchard levels of malaise that should confound everyone. This is insane.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:26.920)

Fitzgeraldian.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:28.920)

It's insane. It's ridiculous.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:30.920)

Well, there is like a feeling of this thing that I faked isn't real.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:36.920)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:38.920)

And it's now become too obviously unreal. And how does one deal with that?

Unknown Speaker (00:25:42.920)

As Dostoevsky once said, every radio host is happy in the same way if they're happy. But every unhappy radio host is unhappy in a completely unique way.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:53.920)

So I think we can take that lesson from here.

Unknown Speaker (00:25:55.920)

Sure. So looming in the background is the fact that the guy in Minnesota shot those lawmakers and Alex is struggling with the fact that he was a fan of his.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:08.920)

And he's been calling the roommate of the shooter an actor. And this has been, this has worked a little bit.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:19.920)

But there's more information coming out. And so Alex, he decides, we're going to revisit this story.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:26.920)

But all of you were watching last weekend at the same time with emergency transmission.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:30.920)

And I laid out all the different angles and I surmised and I said, looks like a Democrat Party hit to get rid of Democrats they don't like.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:38.920)

And to be false flagged to be blamed on Trump.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:41.920)

And if I had to guess, it's a CCP funded operation through the Democratic Party, which we now know from more federal documents that came out this week.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:50.920)

The CCP literally stole the 2020 election with the Democrats and the CIA, all public now, with the fake ballots.

Unknown Speaker (00:26:56.920)

And I'm telling you, Tim Walz is dangerous. And I said that he is a major suspect, not just because he appointed this guy to a board, not just because the guy's wife's a Democrat.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:06.920)

All the connections and the way they came out day one and said he loves Trump, the shooter, the assassin, the patsy, probably.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:16.920)

And that he loves Infowars.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:20.920)

Nobody always know King's flyers in his car.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:26.920)

So now we're learning he was in a security company. Are we learning he was over in Gaza?

Unknown Speaker (00:27:33.920)

International aid groups.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:37.920)

Classic MK ultra emo probably just drugged out of his mind.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:41.920)

Probably not involved in any of it. You got to get out of the plastic mask at the door. All this reeks of an assassination plot operation with this guy as the patsy.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:51.920)

Alex is wrong about every claim that he's making in that clip. And more importantly, he's not really bringing in any new information.

Unknown Speaker (00:27:58.920)

He's covering this story again in an attempt to solidify his narrative about it. But I this is just repetitious.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:04.920)

So Bolter wasn't involved in an intelligence company, but he did travel a bit overseas.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:09.920)

This mostly took the form of him going to do missionary work in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where he preached against LGBTQ folk.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:17.920)

I watched an entire sermon that he delivered, and I just don't think he's very good.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:24.920)

He clearly has a pretty right wing view on Christianity. But he also isn't that good. He's a bad preacher.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:33.920)

Well, I mean, if you're a good preacher, you're usually a bad assassin and vice versa.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:37.920)

It's rare for those things to overlap.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:40.920)

It's rare for them to be in the same sentence.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:42.920)

Except for...

Unknown Speaker (00:28:44.920)

Father Guido Sarducci, who's a comedy assassin.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:49.920)

Who is that? Reverend Horton Heat?

Unknown Speaker (00:28:52.920)

You're going Reverend Horton Heat? Alright, alright. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (00:28:58.920)

They killed a lot of shows.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:01.920)

I'll take that one. I'll take that one.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:02.920)

So Alex is really all over the place on this narrative.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:06.920)

The roommate's probably an actor. This guy is a classic patsy. Tim Walz and China are behind the assassinations to punish disloyal Democrats.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:13.920)

This is a mess. It doesn't need to be, but it is a fucking mess.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:17.920)

I have a question for you.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:19.920)

And I was thinking about this.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:20.920)

I would argue, despite what movies may say about extreme outlier cases,

Unknown Speaker (00:29:30.920)

I would argue that the qualities that make you a good coach of a sport preclude you from being a danger to the world order.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:40.920)

I was reading, I've read Bill Russell's autobiography, his relationship with Red Auerbach.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:48.920)

Great. Red Auerbach?

Unknown Speaker (00:29:50.920)

Not a threat to the global order. Interesting.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:53.920)

All of the qualities that he possessed that made him great also kept him from being a threat to the global order.

Unknown Speaker (00:29:58.920)

Phil Jackson? Read his book? Similar things.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:01.920)

I don't think you can be a good coach and be a threat to the world order.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:05.920)

And from what I heard and read, Coach Walz was alright. Sure.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:09.920)

He was pretty good. Now you know what I think? What's that?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:11.920)

This makes me think. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:12.920)

I recently watched a biography about Uncle Luke Skywalker from the 2 Live crew. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:20.920)

And you know what he does now? What? He's a football coach.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:23.920)

He's a football coach? Yeah. Is he a threat to the global order?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:26.920)

I think he was a threat to people who didn't want freedom of speech.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:30.920)

Sure, sure. But that was pre-coach.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:33.920)

Uh, yeah. Yeah, I guess so. That's true.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:36.920)

Now that he's a good coach, precludes him from being a threat to those people. Fair enough.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:39.920)

So Alex talks a bit about how the Minnesota shooter, this Bolter guy, is MK Ultra stuff.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:47.920)

And I know about MK Ultra stuff. Classic.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:49.920)

Because my dad was in the program. What? I'm sorry? What?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:52.920)

We're just hearing this now. I don't know about MK Ultra.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:54.920)

I'm thinking about just the mind control component.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:56.920)

MK Ultra was just a larger group name, MK Naomi, for test scores in schools and changing the educational system and medical testing and medical experimentation.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:09.920)

It was just lethal and non-lethal. It was just a giant ongoing project of testing the mind.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:15.920)

So when I say this is an MK Ultra project or that person worked under MK Ultra, that's just an umbrella name for that whole genre.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:22.920)

But MK Ultra in general is thought of as only classic mind control.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:26.920)

That was just one part of the one project that got a lot of attention in Congress when it came out in the late 70s in the Frank Church committee hearings and other areas.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:34.920)

So when I sat on a podcast and went to the laboratory the last time I was there, my dad was recruited into MK Ultra and went on in a larger project.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:43.920)

That was just medical experimentation. He wasn't me experimenting on. He was 14, 15, 16 working as assistants, as an intern.

Unknown Speaker (00:31:53.920)

He was experimenting on people?

Unknown Speaker (00:31:55.920)

Oh, you've won the Wizkid thing. You get the feeder for NASA, but first you've got to go...

Unknown Speaker (00:32:00.920)

Experiment on people.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:01.920)

I was in a cancer research facility with terminal patients.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:04.920)

Your dad experimented on people.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:06.920)

So again, if I had to call it, that's what it was.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:10.920)

I got the main glove.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:12.920)

So that's what runs all that stuff. The DARPA created the internet.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:15.920)

Sounds right.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:17.920)

You should understand, it's larger systems, but this would be classic mind control.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:23.920)

Or they just drugged him up.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:25.920)

That's also possible.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:27.920)

But the whole thing unraveled.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:31.920)

The telltale sign is, the day it happened, they tried to connect it to me, within hours.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:37.920)

And the way the roommate does it, the body language, it just screams scripted bullshit.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:45.920)

So the news that Alex is kind of dancing around, and he does bring up, but not in these clips, is that Vance Bolter left behind a letter that was meant to be sent to Kaush Patel at the FBI.

Unknown Speaker (00:32:56.920)

In which he claimed that he'd carried out the assassinations on behalf of Tim Walz, who wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchar so Walz could take her Senate seat.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:05.920)

Right, that makes sense.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:07.920)

This letter was later released in a search warrant, those filed to get access to blink security camera data, and it doesn't necessarily come off as entirely credible.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:15.920)

He claims to have been secretly trained by the military since he was in college, and that he was involved in a bunch of secret unspecified projects, which is pretty standard stuff for these types of folks.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:24.920)

Unverifiable, unfalsifiable.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:27.920)

Yeah, they build up a self-mythology that follows archetypal beats, but it doesn't include anything specific.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:33.920)

The idea is supposed to be that this stuff that they were involved in is so secret, and they're such good soldiers that they would never reveal these secrets, but that premise is shaky.

Unknown Speaker (00:33:42.920)

Why maintain that kind of secrecy when you're writing a letter to the head of the FBI where you admit to murders and an elaborate plot involving the governor?

Unknown Speaker (00:33:49.920)

I think that some of the coverage of this letter has been a little bit off, because the impression that you might get is that Tim Walz enlisted Bolter to kill a bunch of Democratic politicians, including Amy Klobuchar, and that the two assassinations that he attempted to carry out were the beginning of that plan.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:07.920)

I think that's the impression that a lot of people get.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:10.920)

Right, that they're trying to, yeah, okay, I got you.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:13.920)

The assassinations were part of the plot that Walz put in place through Bolter.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:17.920)

Right, right, right, right.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:19.920)

However, it seems from this letter that killing Melissa Hortman and trying to kill John Hoffman, those were Bolter going rogue.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:27.920)

From his letter, quote, recently I was approached about a project that Tim Walz wanted done, and blank, and Keith, also left blank, but it's clearly Keith Ellison, they were aware of the project.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:38.920)

Tim wanted me to kill Amy Klobuchar, it's misspelled, and Tina, blank, but it's obviously Smith, the other Minnesota senator.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:48.920)

Tim wants to be senator and he doesn't trust blank to retire as planned and thinks she's going to stay on at the last minute.

Unknown Speaker (00:34:55.920)

Bolter is telling the story that Walz wanted him to kill these two senators so that he could take one of their seats.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:00.920)

Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman aren't targets from Walz at all in his telling of the story through this letter.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:08.920)

His letter goes on, quote, I told Tim I wanted nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off the plan I would go to the public.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:15.920)

He said he would call it hurt my family if I did play ball.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:20.920)

Then he set up a meeting with me and Mel and blank to talk about options when they had some people waiting to kill me.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:27.920)

I was able to get away by God's mercy. So I went back a short time later and shot at both blank and blank.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:35.920)

It's not a situation where I feel comfortable filling in all the blanks that Bolter left in his note, but I am confident that Mel refers to Melissa Hortman and that the story he's trying to tell is that Hortman and Walz and a third unnamed person confronted Bolter with this plan saying that he needed to follow through with it or else they would hurt his family.

Unknown Speaker (00:35:54.920)

Bolter didn't want to go along with it so he returned and shot at two unnamed people.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:00.920)

That leads me to suspect the unnamed people are Hortman and John Hoffman, which implies that Hoffman is supposed to be the third person who was at this meeting that Bolter claimed he had with Walz where they were threatening him.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:12.920)

If you follow the train of thinking in this letter that he left, he didn't kill Hortman and try to kill Hoffman because Walz wanted him to.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:20.920)

He was a desperate man who was being threatened by Walz and the entire power structure of the Minnesota government and he was living out the plot of an action movie.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:28.920)

This distinction doesn't really matter in the real world because Bolter isn't telling a true story here, but the stuff that we look at is all about narrative.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:36.920)

What story is being told is critically important to understanding how these stories are being used.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:43.920)

I think that a lot of the coverage around this letter has been a little bit off, telling the story that Bolter claimed he did the shootings for Walz.

Unknown Speaker (00:36:50.920)

His claim is actually the opposite, that Walz wanted him to kill the senators and was threatening his family and Bolter decided to go John Wick on the state government in order to try to fight back.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:00.920)

I haven't talked to the guy and I have no idea what his mental state is really like, but I don't think that this letter is very confusing.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:07.920)

He's done something very serious and it didn't go according to plan.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:11.920)

He knows that there's a very good chance that he's going to die after doing the shootings before getting arrested. There's a really good chance.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:19.920)

So leaving this letter behind puts a permanent imprint on the story.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:22.920)

It'll always allow conspiracy theorists to flourish around the story and will give Republicans ammo to attack Tim Walz and other Democrats.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:30.920)

Like, they could have hearings forever.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:33.920)

If he'd died, then the existence of this letter would be the only thing to go on, but since he survived, he can go to trial and he's going to have to try to prove some of these claims, which all veteran conspiracy theorists know isn't going to work.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:45.920)

But, at the time when he would have written this letter and left it, he'd have every reason to think, I'm probably going to die.

Unknown Speaker (00:37:52.920)

This letter will be a piece of evidence that will be able to be exploited in perpetuity.

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I mean, it was written after the assassinations were sure?

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Yes, because he confesses to them and talks about them specifically.

Unknown Speaker (00:38:07.920)

Right, right, right. Well, I mean, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in a fake story. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, there's strong reason to believe it was written after.

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Okay. Yeah. Just a question.

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Beyond all of that, I don't think Alex knows all that much about MKUltra, but it's fun to know that his dad was also recruited into that.

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Like, his family has such a deep history with all of this shady shit that's not real.

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My favorite thing about—

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History is not real. MKUltra was real.

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My favorite thing about MKUltra, the more I read about it, is how well they've done in making it sound like a super secret brainwashing program.

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Instead of a bunch of guys were on a lot of drugs and had no oversight whatsoever.

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And did awful shit to people.

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Yeah, they were sneaking stuff into each other's drinks. There was no accountability for anything.

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These guys were going out for fucking weeks at a time on LSD and doing experiments at the same time.

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People are talking about it like, oh, these guys are evil. These people are insane. And no one did shit about it.

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But the effect of it is quite evil.

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Totally.

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And you can understand why people would have some of that take on it.

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Now, I think what you're describing is why Alex talks the way he does about MKUltra.

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Because when you take it from the specifics of what actually happened, what this was, when you talk about it in that sense, it's not as exploitable.

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You can't use it to explain this Minnesota shooter.

Unknown Speaker (00:39:37.920)

No, you can use it to hire an HR person.

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Yeah, but as you generalize and you turn it into, oh, no, it's really just about test scores. It's everything.

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Then you can just apply the name MKUltra to whatever you want and take the feelings about the real thing and apply them to the false thing.

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That's part of his big strategy.

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Horrifying.

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So he decides that he's going to keep on digging with calling the shooter's roommate an actor.

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Why not?

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I feel like he just doesn't feel like there's any possible consequences.

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Yeah, come get me.

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And now Minnesota shooting suspect Vance Bolter claims an FBI letter he was secretly trained by the military, alleges Governor Tim Walz ordered Senator Amy Klobuchar's assassination so that he could take her Senate seat.

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Well, I said last week, is this guy an assassin to get Democrats that were starting to vote against him in the state back in line and a false flag to blame Trump and his supporters?

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And then, lo and behold, that day, oh, the guy did it for Trump and he really loved Infowars and that CBS stage question.

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Now, the body language for me was total and complete scripting and disingenuous.

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That's my opinion, but I'm not trained in that.

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But a whole bunch of trained Secret Service FBI behavioral psychologist experts have come out and watched the video.

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Of.

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David Carlson, the roommate of Vance Bolter.

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And said exactly what I said.

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And here's one of them right here, Scott Roosch, we're going to be getting to that.

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Coming up, that weird sound effect is what plays at the beginning of Scott Roosch's video.

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He's a YouTube guy who does like body language stuff.

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So Alex is doing just exactly the same thing that he did around Sandy Hook.

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Like they just take things that someone said, like I've got a random guy on YouTube and now I'm going to say that tons of CIA top level experts are all saying this guy looks like an actor.

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This is what he did with Steve Pechenik and Fetzor.

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You take these little things and then pretend this is representative of a giant sample of experts.

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Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask a question?

Unknown Speaker (00:42:14.920)

Sure.

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If because the more I think about it, the more I think this is poor reasoning on Walz's part.

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OK, so if the plan is to assassinate this guy to get other Democrats back in line.

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Right.

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That doesn't work because you if you like.

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OK, so I go, no, I'm not going to get back in line.

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And then he kills me.

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Now you've got two assassinated politicians.

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And then if I the next person goes like, oh, I'm not going to go on.

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Now you've got three. That's a pattern.

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You're going to be in more danger than the people who are ostensibly going to want to fall back in line.

Unknown Speaker (00:42:52.920)

Yeah. This doesn't this isn't something you really can pull multiple times.

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It's a bad plan.

Unknown Speaker (00:42:59.920)

Yeah. I mean, a lot of the theories that Alex imagines are pretty bad.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:02.920)

Yeah. This is I wouldn't do it.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:04.920)

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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And I also wouldn't enlist this guy to kill Amy Klobuchar.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:08.920)

Absolutely. That's a bad plan, too.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:10.920)

These are these are very poor plans.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:12.920)

Yes. I wouldn't I would suggest that maybe that is our best evidence that they didn't happen.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:18.920)

I don't think it's the best evidence, but it's fine evidence. There's other evidence.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:21.920)

Fair enough. It's much better.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:23.920)

You can have it.

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So we now go to the 22nd Sunday.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:28.920)

Yeah. It's because most of the rest of this show on Saturday is Alex whining about Heather suing his dad.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:34.920)

Yeah, that sounds about right. He seems very upset about this.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:36.920)

I bet he is.

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Probably because he gave a bunch of money and cars and property to him.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:41.920)

I mean, it's your fault, but I'm sure you are upset about it. I agree with both of those statements.

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Yeah. Yeah. So now Trump has attacked and Alex called it.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:52.920)

I'm sorry?

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I want to show you how I am 100 percent in the game before I go into what's happening now and what's coming next, the different scenarios.

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All week long, starting last weekend, I specifically said I believe they would strike by Saturday. That was the date that I saw everything lining up.

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Only person to say that anywhere. I was massively attacked by all sides, the left, the control right.

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No, no, no. Trump's just getting a peace deal. It's not going to happen.

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But I said on Thursday specifically exactly what happened.

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So this is kind of true, but also not accurate at all.

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For the past week or so on the show, Alex was saying that Trump was going to attack Iran on Thursday night or Friday morning.

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It was a prediction that was meant to be understood as somewhat flexible in the timeline, but it was also definitely happening.

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Alex spent his time lobbying against the attack and pretending to brief Trump on Bannon's podcast.

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And when Trump's press secretary announced that Trump was giving Iran two weeks to negotiate on Thursday, Alex took that as a victory.

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The war fever had broken.

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It didn't mean an attack wouldn't ever happen, but the immediacy of the crisis had decreased, thanks to the Patriots.

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In essence, what Alex is saying about his prediction here has some truth baked inside it, but that stuff can only be seen as true if you take away all of the context.

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Alex did say that Trump was going to attack Iran, but now Alex is lying about what day he said it was going to happen on, and he's pretending that they didn't do the whole war fever his broken victory lap.

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If you're listening to Alex's show for news and analysis, it would be a huge surprise to wake up on Sunday and learn that Trump had bombed Iran.

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Alex and his friends were supposed to have handled this situation, so Alex saying, I called it, is a little unfair.

Unknown Speaker (00:45:36.920)

This is gaslighting the audience.

Unknown Speaker (00:45:38.920)

Yeah, I was just thinking, like, a lot of gaslighting is insidious, and it's very difficult to kind of keep straight.

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I feel like if a person is like, hey, those last two days didn't even happen. They just didn't.

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That should be a, if you're in a relationship and somebody says the last two days did not happen, it's time to go.

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This should be really, really, really suspicious to anyone who's paying attention to his show.

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This kind of behavior is opportunistic, it's manipulative, but also par for the course. It's exactly what his show is.

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It's what you're looking for if you're there.

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So, look, some people want to believe that this is just a little cool bombing.

Unknown Speaker (00:46:21.920)

Is it a little, it's a little how's your mother?

Unknown Speaker (00:46:24.920)

Well, I think that there's some conspiracy folks on the right who are putting forth the idea that Trump did this in order to placate Israel.

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So, like, Israel is saying they just don't want Iran to have nukes.

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And so Trump carries out this attack in order to be like, there, now they don't have nukes. Are you happy now?

Unknown Speaker (00:46:42.920)

Right, right, right.

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So that is something that a lot of people are saying.

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That's not terrible. I mean, that's essentially the Moab kind of thing all over again.

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Or Soleimani back and forth.

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Yep, makes enough sense as it is.

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And so Alex doesn't think this.

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Now there's a whole other story here that I've seen a lot of people saying that actually has some validity, doesn't mean it's what's happening.

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And because of the ongoing massive buildup of planes, missiles and aircraft carriers, I do not believe that is what's happened here.

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Because this is different than five years ago.

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And I have said at the time, even though it's identical, the Iranians shot a bunch of missiles in retaliation to Soleimani, their top general being killed.

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The head of the Revolutionary Guard, Hezbollah, that when Soleimani was killed, they didn't want a full war with Trump.

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So they called Trump and said, we're going to shoot missiles, but they're not going to hit your base.

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And they didn't hit the base. Didn't kill anybody. Hit about a mile away in the desert.

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And Trump later talked about that.

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Some have said that's what this is and that this is now, you know, like the U.S. has come in and we took out your nuclear program.

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And so now we can tell Israel, stop it.

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Well, the Iranians were reached out to.

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Turns out by Trump, he'd mentioned this, but said, oh, we're talking behind the scenes.

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He wanted to meet with them on Thursday when he gave it two weeks.

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And they told you, they told us, go to hell, which is what I see in all the signs.

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They've never hoisted the red flag before. They've never done that before.

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They know the world's lining up behind them. They're dug in.

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And all the evidence points towards full war with Iran and its allies has now begun.

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So that's that's where we're at. This is not just a little bit of a performance of war.

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This is like this is it. This is this is the ship.

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I mean, it makes sense.

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After a certain point, you know, like in in what and in Avengers, you've got the aliens coming and you've got the light.

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You've got the whole earth. You know, that's that's your your Moab. Right.

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You got to escalate. Right. So then you go to the Civil War. You got your Avengers and then Ultron.

Unknown Speaker (00:49:04.920)

You know, you escalate that. So now we got America in a civil war. Where else do you go?

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You got to end the whole world. You got to end the universe. You got to get your end game in there.

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And the multiverse. You got to end the yeah. You got to have half of everybody die.

Unknown Speaker (00:49:15.920)

Right. I do. I feel like there is escalation, obviously.

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But then Alex is in a place where he's like, I can't pretend this is not like nothing anymore.

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Yeah. Like my guy is just fucking like he's he's messing it up.

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My messianic leader is not doing what I want him to do.

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He's been giving lip service to what I want.

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He pretended like Bannon had convinced him not to attack.

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And I fell for it. I went along with it. But I can't do this.

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You know, it's a real it's a rich struggle.

Unknown Speaker (00:49:53.920)

It can never be missed. But sometimes when you just stop and you go like these idiots are firing millions of dollars at nothing to show off how strong they are to other idiots when they could just be feeding their own fucking people.

Unknown Speaker (00:50:09.920)

It's true. Like, what are we fucking do? You guys, these people are all so stupid and we let them rule the world, which is great. So that's fine. It is going to be fine.

Unknown Speaker (00:50:19.920)

It's inefficient. No, it's gonna be fine. It's gonna be great.

Unknown Speaker (00:50:22.920)

So with this war, it's gonna come sleeper cells, obviously. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (00:50:27.920)

Pre sleeper cells or post sleeper cells? What does that mean? I mean, do we already have sleeper cells that are being activated or are there new sleeper cells coming in?

Unknown Speaker (00:50:35.920)

Probably pre. Okay. And one of them might have just popped off. Oh, shit.

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The fuse is lit on the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran's parliament has voted to block it. Only the Supreme Leader can override that now.

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They will be able to block it very easily. All the studies are out there. 20% of world oil production and delivery goes through that every day at least.

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Russia, North Korea and others are signaling that they're going to give nuclear weapons to Iran.

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Why? That doesn't make any sense.

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That doesn't make any sense.

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But a brave deacon jumped on him like a marine jumping on a hand grenade and then a security guard killed him.

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That just happened the last three hours.

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That morning, a man named Brian Anthony Browning, he had arrived at Cross Point Community Church in Wayne, Michigan and opened fire.

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He was run over by a member of the church and then died exchanging fire with security guards.

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Alex has almost all of the basic details incorrect about this story because he doesn't really care about what happened.

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It's a horrible tragedy and in the aftermath of the shooting, it's come out that the shooter seemed to harbor some resentment towards this specific church.

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He posted a photo of a friend of his who died recently that said, quote,

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You have not only lied to men but have lied upon the Spirit of the Lord. His blood is on your hands, Cross Point Community Church.

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I have no idea what exactly is going on with this case, but it seems to me like yet another instance of someone who was unwell,

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who had access to weapons, who decided to act out violently on whatever unaddressed feelings or thoughts he was having.

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Alex is a desperate liar who loves to manipulate the audience by exploiting tragedy, so for him, he sees a story like this and thinks, I can work with that.

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He doesn't see a tragedy where people are left hurt. He just sees an opportunity because he's a piece of shit.

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Maybe I can pretend that this was a Iranian sleeper cell. This works?

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I mean, man.

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Can I make a few bucks off that?

Unknown Speaker (00:53:08.920)

Man, what a piece of shit.

Unknown Speaker (00:53:10.920)

Totally.

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This feels a little bit like I want to be in a mall at a food court just watching this piece of shit because then it's like low stakes.

Unknown Speaker (00:53:22.920)

You know, when you're at the mall and you see somebody just clearly being a piece of shit to a retail worker for, no, what are you doing?

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It's a Burberry or whatever the fuck it is, you know? You're getting sunglasses. That's fine. That's a nice little people watch.

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That's a nice little, look at that piece of shit. At least we're not that guy.

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And I think that...

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I think also when you're watching someone be a real asshole piece of shit to other people in public, you're like, well, he's going to do that to the wrong person one day and get his ass kicked.

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And I think there's a small comfort in like, I don't treat people like that. I feel good. I think that there's going to be some comeuppance that's coming.

Unknown Speaker (00:54:02.920)

And with Alex, it doesn't seem like anyone... There's not that wrong employee that he's mistreating.

Unknown Speaker (00:54:09.920)

No, in a weird way, that initial thing that he's saying about how he's indebted to Trump and if Trump doesn't win, he'll go to jail.

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That's not literally true for him and Trump, but the relationship of like, if the powers that be are not in some way or form protecting me, I am well aware that justice will come for me.

Unknown Speaker (00:54:31.920)

Well, yeah. And I think that he has an awareness that if, God forbid, all of these troubles that he has brought upon himself, if the consequences come to bear, Trump's going to let them slide.

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Like in whatever way he has that kind of get out of jail idea, even if it's not literally get out of jail.

Unknown Speaker (00:54:53.920)

How could you not? Your buddy got pardoned for stealing an election.

Unknown Speaker (00:54:57.920)

Yeah. And all of your buddies got pardoned for storming the Capitol.

Unknown Speaker (00:55:02.920)

For storming the Capitol! Why would you ever expect to receive actual consequences that you should be like physically scared of?

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Yeah. The only thing that's required in order to maintain access to those things seems to be loyalty.

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Perfect fealty to dear leader.

Unknown Speaker (00:55:18.920)

Yeah. And so that seems to be the priority. Anyway, the last few days didn't happen.

Unknown Speaker (00:55:24.920)

They didn't?

Unknown Speaker (00:55:25.920)

Nope.

Unknown Speaker (00:55:26.920)

Well, that's actually comforting because the last few days were pretty scary.

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Alex is just trying to pretend that like, I didn't say the fever broken.

Unknown Speaker (00:55:34.920)

Wow.

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And just to give you a little example that my head's in the game, so people listen.

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That's the opposite of what it is!

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The regular listeners that know that, but everybody else, we've just posted it X.

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How did Alex Jones, yours truly, predict last Saturday, last Sunday, last Monday, last Tuesday, last Wednesday, last Thursday, that I believe the strike was coming and that it would be probably by Saturday?

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But I said the windows Thursday evening through Sunday evening, if it was going to be done, I have a lot of intel, a lot of information, a lot of moving parts, but I myself came up with that equation.

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There's no way that Alex doesn't know that what he's doing is manipulation.

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It's fine for him to say that he predicted Trump would attack Iran Thursday or Friday, but he has to know that he's extending this window of the prediction after the fact, and that he spent Friday and Saturday trying to convince the audience that Trump was great and had listened to his calmer-headed advisors.

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If Alex wants to take some credit for this prediction, then he needs to also admit that he was tricked by Trump and his press secretary to the point where he gave up on the prediction that he had previously made.

Unknown Speaker (00:56:42.920)

You can't have one without the other. This is negating the part where you were way wrong in order to preserve the part where you looked right.

Unknown Speaker (00:56:51.920)

Yeah. You know, I think, all right, here's where I'm interested to see where things go, because from what I can see, based upon the messaging from our current administration, nobody knows what the fuck's going on.

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Or what they're supposed to be saying.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:08.920)

Yeah. Like I said when Trump and Tulsi disagree, there's no message discipline. It's chaos.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:14.920)

Right. Right, right, right. Now, that's fine for these people. They don't give a shit.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:18.920)

Reality is fungible at best, right? But the question is, how many times can you roll back and forth on the same fence? Do you know what I mean? Like, oh, we didn't go to war. War is evil. War is terrible.

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And we went to war. We love war. War is great. Wait, now we don't love war again? How many times before you go, fuck it, I'm done? Right? Like, that's the question.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:41.920)

I think the number's higher than it used to be.

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I think we're looking at at least five. I think people are going to, within a span of weeks, change their minds on one thing at least five times, and that will be too many.

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It may. It may happen.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:55.920)

So Alex plays a clip of himself making this prediction from his show on Thursday.

Unknown Speaker (00:58:01.920)

Right. What shows did he not take clips from?

Unknown Speaker (00:58:05.920)

The ones after the change.

Unknown Speaker (00:58:07.920)

Oh, yeah, that makes sense. No, that makes sense.

Unknown Speaker (00:58:09.920)

And then there's so much information, you call it a hunch. It's not really, it's the subconscious. War made women more powerful than the conscious.

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And then I did a prime political computation and said, I believe it would be Saturday evening, U.S. time. The crew couldn't find that clip. They did a great job, though.

Unknown Speaker (00:58:22.920)

They found a clip that's almost as powerful where I do nail it and say Saturday evening.

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Before I give you the next predictions and before I give you the next scenarios that we're now already deeply into here tonight.

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So here I am in the first hour of Thursday's syndicated radio slash TV transmission from this chair I'm sitting in right now. Here it is.

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What did I tell you? Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I said starting Thursday night through the weekend is when I see Trump deciding to not strike or deciding to strike.

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Because I understand military doctrine.

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Which is not a prediction at all.

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Pieces of intel and people ask, how did I make that announcement over the weekend? I had Steve Bannon ask, how do I know? And I just said, I can see all the pieces.

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And I am sure that by Sunday at the latest, unless I ran publicly says, OK, we'll give up the program unconditionally and publicly roll over.

Unknown Speaker (00:59:37.920)

That could extend it out because then if they say they'll do a deal, but pull back, kind of like Zelensky did on the minerals over and over again, they could probably rope Trump along a little bit longer.

Unknown Speaker (00:59:47.920)

But I don't think at this point if they're going to capitulate, it's going to be fake.

Unknown Speaker (00:59:52.920)

And I would tell the Iranians, even if you try to capitulate now, I think Israel is going to launch a false flag.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:00.920)

We know the Russians just caught the Ukrainians with a plan to torpedo one of their ships and blame Russia.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:07.920)

Torpedo one of our ships.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:11.920)

So.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:14.920)

It was about a 99 percent chance two days ago that by the weekend the U.S. joins the war officially, I'd say it's about a 95 percent chance right now.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:26.920)

But I.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:28.920)

Gut level, I believe by Saturday we'll be doing an emergency all day broadcast covering it.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:34.920)

So there you have it.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:36.920)

And boy, did I get attacked for being right.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:39.920)

So that's a great clip for Alex to play, and I think it's a lot of fun where he decides to cut it off right after he said that there was a 95 percent chance that they'd be doing an all day show on Saturday.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:50.920)

He said this.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:52.920)

It was about a 99 percent chance two days ago that by the weekend the U.S. joins the war officially.

Unknown Speaker (01:00:58.920)

I'd say it's about a 95 percent chance right now.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:02.920)

But I.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:04.920)

Gut level, I believe by Saturday we'll be doing an emergency all day broadcast covering it.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:11.920)

Now, things could change.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:14.920)

It's like you're in a bus driving towards a cliff, the Grand Canyon, and you're 200 yards away, 100 yards away, 50 yards away, and you're going 60 miles an hour.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:22.920)

There's not much time to slam the brakes on before we go off the edge of it.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:25.920)

This was a conditional prediction.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:28.920)

It was a prediction if the brakes weren't slammed on.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:31.920)

On his Friday show and on Saturday, Alex was invested in telling the story that they'd successfully slammed on the brakes.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:38.920)

Trump had listened to Alex's briefing from Bannon's podcast. The world was saved.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:43.920)

This is the important dynamic that he's trying to rip out of this false prediction that he made.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:49.920)

This clip from Thursday is great as a parlor trick, and it might impress idiots on Twitter, but anyone who's paying attention and watching his show would have to know that this whole thing is a lie.

Unknown Speaker (01:01:59.920)

And the only way that Alex could try to sell it to the audience is if he's a liar.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:03.920)

So that's just a shame.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:06.920)

This is like the pre-taped eulogies.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:10.920)

I don't know if you've ever, like those like, in case this guy dies, we've already got the eulogy cover.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:18.920)

They've already got the news organization. They've already got the template out.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:22.920)

Yeah, of course you've predicted it if you filmed 15 different versions of the exact same thing for the precise moment that one of them might happen.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:31.920)

Yeah, a lot of the content of Alex's show functions that way. I think he calls it war gaming.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:36.920)

But what he's doing is making a million predictions, and then he's going to selectively cherry pick out the ones that look the best in hindsight in order to pretend he's a prophet,

Unknown Speaker (01:02:45.920)

to make what bullshit he's saying in the present day seem like, oh, he got it right last time, we should listen to him this time.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:52.920)

It's a fucking dumb game. He's an idiot and a fucking monstrous asshole who exploits everyone's pain.

Unknown Speaker (01:02:59.920)

Anyway, I think also he really wants there to be like some 4D chess going on here.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:07.920)

He wants this to be Trump doing this to placate Israel in order to create more peace. He really, really wants that.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:15.920)

Listen, we all wish that forward thinking and strategizing were available to us. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:23.920)

I don't think that he can do it. I think that he just can't. He's like, no, this is actually war.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:29.920)

So I see all the videos of the bombers bombing and people playing rock and roll and celebrating it.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:35.920)

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran. Taking the John McCain statements and putting it to music.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:39.920)

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:43.920)

How much?

Unknown Speaker (01:03:59.920)

A drug addict.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:09.920)

He had this secret deal for them to stage this attack to save face. And I said at the time that's what that was.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:15.920)

That all their missiles don't hit a few miles away in a desert from our base. No, it was, you could see it.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:20.920)

Then they stopped right there. Then Trump stopped. And then later he admitted what it was. I know how this works.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:24.920)

Everything I see now is not that. All the signs say total war. I don't just say things to be incendiary or alarmist.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:33.920)

I say it because it's what I see. That's why I have the number one accuracy trade track record.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:41.920)

Number one accuracy trade track record.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:44.920)

Number one accuracy track network.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:47.920)

So accurate.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:49.920)

I think that you just have a sense of Alex desperately wanting it to be a pissing contest.

Unknown Speaker (01:04:58.920)

But he can't allow himself to. That's not what he feels. He feels like this is actually war. Trump did the thing that I said that he can't do.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:08.920)

Yeah. And we've already done the pissing contest.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.920)

Five years ago.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:14.920)

Exactly how are we still pissing if the contest is still going on? That's too much.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.920)

We're well hydrated.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:22.920)

We've moved on. Now shit's getting real time.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:24.920)

And I think because shit's getting real, Alex now feels like I've got to argue with someone.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:31.920)

I think people on the left would tell you, I told you so. Other people on the right, a lot of them maybe have positions that I don't really want to engage with.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:42.920)

Absolutely not.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:44.920)

So he decides he's going to get mad at a random QAnon guy on Twitter.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:48.920)

Now is the time.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:49.920)

He's going to tell the Q people about the mastery. This is going to totally expose Israel. Bring down Netanyahu. 5D chess. A thousand D chess.

Unknown Speaker (01:05:57.920)

And just dreamy eyed that, oh my gosh, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't stopping the war. This is accelerating the war. Watch.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:06.920)

And I wish that wasn't the case.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:09.920)

And Trump was convinced this probably would do that. And maybe it is. We're going to find out.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:13.920)

But this is kind of a sampling of the people thinking, oh no, this is a master stroke to go ahead and take out their nuclear program and then say, see, now Israel can stop.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:26.920)

The problem is I told you they would announce the Iranians had taken their enrichment out. They now officially are going for a bomb they've announced. They're pulling out of the UN treaty.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:33.920)

Officially? You think they already have it?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:35.920)

All these companies are saying they're going to give them nukes. They're going to block the Strait of Hormuz. We're massing all these aircraft carriers and thousands of planes everywhere. That ain't being done for no reason, sweethearts.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:47.920)

But let's just hope that the pie in the sky is true. Here it is.

Unknown Speaker (01:06:52.920)

Looks like the US military just went in and bombed Iran. They went in and bombed three nuclear sites. They got in and got out. You know, the stealth bombers.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:02.920)

I don't know how they detected the stealth bombers anyways, but the news is talking about it. So Trump said the planes are out and they're on their way back home and he's ready for peace now.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:13.920)

So what just happened, in my firm opinion, is we know the left, Cabal, deep state of Israel is on a mission and Trump took out their mission. Their mission was to make sure that there was no nukes in Iran.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:27.920)

Well, Trump said, okay, I'll move in and take out the nuclear sites. And now what? I think it's a bait because Israel is not going to stop attacking them.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:35.920)

And Trump's gonna say, why are you still attacking them? I just took out the nuclear sites. What are you doing? And that's going to open up the floodgates on who Israel really is.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:44.920)

Mark my words, in the coming days, watch. The peacemaker just drew them in. What a chess move.

Unknown Speaker (01:07:51.920)

What a chess move. Yeah, that's why Netanyahu begged him to do it. And they're worshipping Trump right now. Israel is. And now everything is degenerating into total war.

Unknown Speaker (01:08:02.920)

And they've got giant billboards up everywhere in Tel Aviv saying, thank you, Mr. President. Yeah, man, he really got the Israelis, quote, taking out their nuclear sites, man. He really did the opposite of what they wanted.

Unknown Speaker (01:08:13.920)

But this is what happens when people start getting into geopolitics and things and then have a comic book, you know, Avenger movie mindset. Okay. I said this all last week. I said it on Steve Bannon Friday. Have you missed it?

Unknown Speaker (01:08:27.920)

That's on X right now. Relox Jones overhead shot, please. Hegseth, we devastated the Iranian nuclear program. Zoom in, please.

Unknown Speaker (01:08:34.920)

That's today. Iranian sources say enriched uranium moved from Fordow before U.S. airstrikes and released the video of it all happening.

Unknown Speaker (01:08:43.920)

Iran valves continue enriching uranium after U.S. strikes. Iran media, uranium move from Fordow pre-strike. How Israel's campaign to wipe out Iran's nuclear program unfolded.

Unknown Speaker (01:08:56.920)

How far will U.S. strike set back Iran's nuclear program? Oh, now they're telling us, oh, it really didn't do that. Ah, but I mean, he just took out their program.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:05.920)

Yeah. Yeah, it's all over. The war is over. Everything's fine. Remember, Joe Biden is going to be executed on January 20th, 2020 at the inauguration. Q said so.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:17.920)

And monkeys might fly to my ass in unicorns. We'll be right back.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:20.920)

I think that Alex is in a really bad place because he feels the need to argue with someone who's more disconnected from reality than him.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:29.920)

Yeah. Like he's kind of using this guy as a punching bag in order to like, hey, I'm not that.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:36.920)

Yeah, it's it is about as bad as like, oh, hey, I'm an eighth level demon. I'm not a ninth level demon. Come on.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:44.920)

Yeah, I do it. I'm not one of those assholes.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:46.920)

And I think this is something that happens sometimes for fun, like him having Eddie Bravo on to talk about flattery. Sure.

Unknown Speaker (01:09:54.920)

But this is this isn't fun. This is him trying to just be like, all right, let's be serious.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:02.920)

Yep. You know, you you you kids with your new to geopolitics, you've got this Avengers world, you know, no, no. Stop with the Avengers. Childhood's end is real.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:11.920)

Yep. That's it's it's it's not a comic book. It's a book.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:16.920)

No, I mean, it's it is like early on doing stand up, you know, like you have a stretch where your confidence is getting hit pretty hard because you're not that good.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:26.920)

And you're not you're just not that good. And that's fine. That's how that's how it works. Right. But there are rooms there are rooms where not that good can be can be real good.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:34.920)

Sure. You know, so you'd go to one of those rooms, you'd get your confidence back up. But that's not a long term strategy towards improving.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:42.920)

Finding the easiest thing to do and then doing that is not the same thing as improving.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:48.920)

It's not a good strategy. And also what this feels like is somebody who has come up through, you know, open mics and maybe gotten better.

Unknown Speaker (01:10:55.920)

Maybe they're headlining or featuring and then they're mean to open micers or something, you know, they forget the entire like how you got where you are.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:09.920)

You were here. You were the same asshole that you're mad at.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:13.920)

And let's be honest, this is not that different than what Alex does. He sits in his car and says dumb shit.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:20.920)

No, you are you are the same asshole that you're mad at.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:22.920)

Yeah. You guys intellectually are both open micers. Right. Alex is just a headliner at selling pills. Right. That's it.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.920)

The relative quality is arbitrary and inside both of your own minds because you're identical. Yeah. Yeah. The difference is mostly money. Yep. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:40.920)

So Alex wants this to not be Trump's fault. And that's the sense that you get from this episode.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:46.920)

See, this is the problem with wanting a president who is also the king. By definition, everything is their fault, either by doing it or by not stopping it from being done.

Unknown Speaker (01:11:58.920)

It is also the problem with associating the person in power with being your literal lifeboat. There's an issue. Yeah. It's going to take a lot for you to turn on that lifeboat.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:08.920)

It's going to be hard. And so Alex wants to maintain like some connection to Trump. He's not bad. It's not him. It's all these other guys.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:16.920)

Iran says U.S. has blown diplomacy through its lawless jungle behavior.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:21.920)

That's fair.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:23.920)

Iran. You started it. We will end it. Iran media warns Trump after strikes nuclear sites airs maps of U.S. bases.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:31.920)

That's probably unfair.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:33.920)

All I see from them is they're getting ready for action. Is it all a big bluff? Let's hope so.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:39.920)

But then they're going to demand a total surrender of Iran so they can't. And more aircraft carriers and more aircraft are massing, the likes of which we've not seen since 2003.

Unknown Speaker (01:12:54.920)

So that indicates war escalation, escalatory conflict. That's what all the real signals show. Not delusional pie in the sky.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:09.920)

Oh, Marco Rubio. Oh, yeah, we want peace. Oh, yeah, we're ready right now. They're telling Trump that and Trump probably believes that.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:15.920)

But is Trump super sophisticated enough about real geopolitical strategy and military?

Unknown Speaker (01:13:20.920)

Or maybe he's in on it. Maybe he wants total war. I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:24.920)

I don't know. Making some good excuses, though. Like he's just not sophisticated enough to see through the lies of a Marco Rubio, the guy he made secretary of state.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:33.920)

Both of you have been chosen by your deity.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:38.920)

Yep. We lose sight of that sometimes.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:42.920)

Both of them. Not one. Not the other. The two.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:47.920)

And Alex's being chosen by the deity has a lot to do with getting Trump into power.

Unknown Speaker (01:13:53.920)

Absolutely. So like all of this is a divine mission that seems to have gone...

Unknown Speaker (01:13:57.920)

Very, very divine. Yeah. So, I mean, ultimately you should be mad at your own God.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:03.920)

Yeah. Either you all fucked up or God meant for all of this to happen.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:08.920)

Yeah. In which case you're probably being fucked with because, again, you have a very weird God. And you need to deal with that.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:13.920)

Who might be the devil.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:14.920)

You need to deal with that somehow, some way.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:17.920)

Yeah. So Alex takes some calls for most of the rest of the show.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:21.920)

That's smart. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:23.920)

And I think that he can't quite land on a position of like how to play this ball.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:29.920)

Because this is an egregious error that Trump has made.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:33.920)

It is against the peaceful... not really peaceful...

Unknown Speaker (01:14:40.920)

Whatever we like. Whatever the vibe is of the America First crowd.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:44.920)

It's like imperialist isolationism somehow.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:47.920)

Yes. And they would not have a huge problem with him bombing somewhere.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:51.920)

Right. But Iran is a huge country. They have power in a lot of spheres.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:57.920)

They're also aligned closely with Russia.

Unknown Speaker (01:14:59.920)

And there's a lot of fucking Russia love that is in the America First movement.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:03.920)

Yeah, that's true. So a lot of this is like the wrong choice of a country to bomb.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:08.920)

What a sentence. There's a lot of Russia love in the America First movement.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:11.920)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:13.920)

I mean, no, it's perfect and apt and descriptive in ways that you can't even use words for.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:19.920)

Yeah, like if Trump had bombed, I don't know, Chile, I don't think people would care nearly as much.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:26.920)

They wouldn't know where it was.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:28.920)

Right. But because of the dynamics of Iran, it becomes really problematic for Trump's base.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:34.920)

Yeah. Team sports.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:36.920)

But Alex still sees him as that life raft and doesn't want to give up.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:41.920)

It's not enough for Alex to be like, fuck this. He's not drunk.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:45.920)

So he's not lashing out in the same way that he did during the first administration.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:49.920)

But you can tell, like, he's like, I can only put up with so much.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:53.920)

I have to... He's bending, but not breaking just yet.

Unknown Speaker (01:15:58.920)

Yeah. You know, I mean, it's so hard. Like for, I think for most rational people,

Unknown Speaker (01:16:04.920)

the calculus is simply like some sort of cost benefit.

Unknown Speaker (01:16:07.920)

It's going to cost me to try and stick through Trump with, you know...

Unknown Speaker (01:16:13.920)

And you would think that the bombing of Iran would be enough, but it's clearly not.

Unknown Speaker (01:16:17.920)

But is the benefit ultimately, is he right? Is the benefit like life or death?

Unknown Speaker (01:16:23.920)

In which case, what cost isn't he really willing to pay if there's only one price?

Unknown Speaker (01:16:28.920)

You know? Or if there's only one possible fail, you know?

Unknown Speaker (01:16:33.920)

I think a highly motivated Department of Justice could incarcerate him.

Unknown Speaker (01:16:37.920)

I think he's committed some crimes that would be...

Unknown Speaker (01:16:41.920)

I think that Alex should have every reason to think that...

Unknown Speaker (01:16:45.920)

Not that if Trump goes out of power, he'll go to jail, but the odds are higher.

Unknown Speaker (01:16:50.920)

But not life or death.

Unknown Speaker (01:16:52.920)

Out of power, out of money, these are the things that will definitely take him down far more than any kind of legal system.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:00.920)

Yeah. So the point that I think Alex is at is one where he's like,

Unknown Speaker (01:17:06.920)

Fuck, that calculus, that equation, whatever it is, is changing.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:11.920)

And it's much more real, the idea that maybe it's not worth it to support Trump.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:16.920)

But it's not enough. The scale is still meh.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:21.920)

So I don't want to listen to much of the calls, but I do want to say that Alex is a big boy show.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:28.920)

He is a big boy.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:30.920)

This is where the intellectuals come to play.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:33.920)

This is where heads of state listen to this fucking show.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:37.920)

WONKS OF ALL POLICY.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:39.920)

And the real movers and the shakers, the Rockefellers, they try to hire Alex.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:45.920)

They know that policymakers, people who are ahead of their time...

Unknown Speaker (01:17:51.920)

Putin listens.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:53.920)

So here's one caller.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:55.920)

China's going to stay scared of us one bit.

Unknown Speaker (01:17:58.920)

I don't think so. I think they want to call our bluff.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:02.920)

We've handed America to China.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:05.920)

I work in the oil and gas industry.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:07.920)

I mean, we're working for Tokyo people, which is not saying they're bad, but we're an American soul.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:14.920)

And here we are as Americans working for people from Tokyo.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:18.920)

Mitsubishi just announced that they're buying an oil and gas company that operates in this area.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:22.920)

I'm out of Kilgore, Texas by Longview, Tyler, North or whatever outside of about an hour and a half, two hours from Dallas.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:31.920)

And I mean, it's just scary to sit there and know that we're selling our land to them.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:36.920)

I mean, what have they done?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:38.920)

They've got their people here, they're in place.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:40.920)

They've always said they'll take over us and never fire shots.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:43.920)

Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:45.920)

When did they say they'll take over us?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:48.920)

Well, I think we first have to figure out who he's talking about.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:50.920)

Do you mean the Chinese or the Japanese?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:53.920)

Same to him.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:55.920)

It feels like he does not care if there's a difference.

Unknown Speaker (01:18:57.920)

It's big boy pants time, the show for racists who think that Tokyo people are Chinese.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:05.920)

I mean, wow.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:07.920)

I mean, why would you think that they'd have any other...

Unknown Speaker (01:19:10.920)

It would be a very interesting lens through which to explain to this man that nations don't really exist at the higher echelons of money.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:21.920)

And so what he's describing as like Mitsubishi buying something is not Japan buying anything, but a bunch of weird psychos now. So that's better.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:29.920)

Right. But it would be also interesting to try to explain to him the Chinese and Japanese people don't come from the same country.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:36.920)

I don't think we're able to get there. I think that'll take too long.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:38.920)

I think the abstract shit that you're talking about would be more difficult.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:43.920)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:45.920)

I think that he just does not like Asian people.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:48.920)

I think you might be right.

Unknown Speaker (01:19:50.920)

Anyway, I thought for sure that, you know, as the things were unfolding, when I heard that Iran got bombed, Trump had bombed Iran, I thought that Alex would have a stronger, devastated reaction.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:06.920)

Right. Right, right, right.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:08.920)

And to me, it was pretty surprising that he's just kind of lying to himself, creating a, I call this, and trying to slow play it a little bit.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:19.920)

Some of that may be because it's on Sunday, so it's on less stations. Stakes are a little bit lower maybe.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:25.920)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:27.920)

But I thought he'd be freaking out, and he's not.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:29.920)

I mean, you know, in a way, I think a lot of people would have described the way he treated alcohol as someone trying to wall off large parts of reality.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:42.920)

And now he's not medicating with alcohol in that same way. So instead, he's apparently psychologically walling off entire days of time.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:51.920)

Which I think is probably healthier.

Unknown Speaker (01:20:55.920)

We all cope, you know?

Unknown Speaker (01:20:56.920)

I guess that's how we should put it. We all cope. We all cope. Some of us just decide days don't happen.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:02.920)

Yeah. And, I mean, who knows? Based on the way he drank that apple juice, maybe days didn't exist.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:09.920)

Maybe they didn't. That's why you do it.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:11.920)

Oh boy.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:13.920)

Anyway, we'll see how this unraveling continues. But I really do think that we're in a chunk of time that is the path of disillusionment.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:23.920)

Sure.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:24.920)

The path of the Messiah being shown to be a false idol.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:28.920)

Right, right, right.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:30.920)

Essentially. And to me, I think that that's fascinating.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:33.920)

You believe we are currently living in what will eventually be the thing where we go, ah, that's where it really began.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:39.920)

Well, I think it's... Here's what I'm saying.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:42.920)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:44.920)

Yes. Possibly.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:46.920)

Possibly. Fair enough.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:48.920)

But we've done this show for long enough and seen so many things that felt like they were going to be that.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:52.920)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:54.920)

I see an entire world being possible where Trump does this bullshit about the Epstein stuff.

Unknown Speaker (01:21:59.920)

Yep.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:01.920)

And then Alex makes a big stink, yells about it, bah. And then a month later is like, well, other people aren't going to deport everybody.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:09.920)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:11.920)

You know, like, maybe we need to make peace with this pedophile.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:13.920)

It was all Clinton.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:14.920)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:16.920)

So I think that has the feeling of a moment that has a historical, like, this is the breaking point.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:22.920)

But then also...

Unknown Speaker (01:22:24.920)

It's tough to be on post-1000 episodes and be like, maybe things will... It's tough. It's real tough.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:31.920)

Because our evidence pointing backwards, very strong.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:34.920)

Yeah. There's too many times where it's felt like, aha, you can't possibly follow Trump after this.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:40.920)

Poist it again. Those Duke boys don't give a shit about reality.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:45.920)

It seems like there's no chance of Epstein stuff being non-breaking point.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:52.920)

Permanent.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:54.920)

But, eh.

Unknown Speaker (01:22:56.920)

I mean, when have you ever seen walls slowly close in on somebody with spikes, successfully close in on somebody?

Unknown Speaker (01:23:05.920)

They always escape at the last minute.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:06.920)

See, that's because they only exist in movies. I think if they existed in the real world...

Unknown Speaker (01:23:13.920)

Yeah, you think they'd be pretty effective?

Unknown Speaker (01:23:15.920)

Yeah, and I think you wouldn't see it a lot.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:17.920)

Right. Well, trash comp-compactors have pretty, yeah, they have pretty high success rates on crushing things into small stuff.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:24.920)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:26.920)

Didn't people used to put them in, like, cars? You know what? I don't even need to think about this right now.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:30.920)

Nope. So we'll be back and check in on how this path unfolds for Alex, but until then, we have a website.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:34.920)

Indeed we do. It's KnowledgeRight.com.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:36.920)

Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:41.920)

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!

Unknown Speaker (01:23:44.920)

And now, here comes the sex robots.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:46.920)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:50.920)

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

Unknown Speaker (01:23:54.920)

I love you.