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hallow when do you have to go

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now you know there's not long

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enough to.

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Election is exhausting.

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vet.

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If the fps barrow

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys

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Knowledge fight

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Need money

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Stop it

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Pray

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Knowledge fight calm

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Hey everybody welcome back knowledge fight. I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan workable dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe

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Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question for you

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What's up, buddy my bright spot today is that I was getting dressed

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Mm-hmm reached into my old boudoir. Is that what it is a closet sure thing?

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Yeah, yeah, why not and pulled out this shirt is a our show shirt

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I think I'm recording in our show. Oh my the first

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Ever maybe wow that's from the past. Well. This is a gift from

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Our Canada show yeah, I threw it from the audience

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And so I was just like oh, that's fun. That's yes. That's great. So yeah, I'm wearing our show a show thing while doing show

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Metababy that's very cool levels. That's very cool

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Yeah, what's your bird spot? My bright spot is?

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So in

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Preparing to go right

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Cleaning the place up so when you come back

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You know you don't want to come back to a mess then you're just like now back to the desert yeah

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It's a bummer right and I have this thing that I do and we do now together

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Wherein something gets things get regularly cleaned for the most part things get regularly clean

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But then something will not get cleaned once and then it'll be that little pebble and then the next time it's like

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I'll get to that one because it's more and then and then until eventually

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It reaches a point where you actively don't want to clean it right. It's a crisis. Yeah, or get near it now

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I think there's nothing very special about just regular maintenance of your home

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You know but sometimes when a task is

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Herculean hmm. There's a sense of accomplishment upon creating it so I'm not saying that you know or on completing it

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Yeah, definitely. I'm not saying that this is a way to live your life, but there is a good

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There's a sense of satisfaction that you get from cleaning up a mess that you've created and left for way too long

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Definitely that you would not receive from just clean from just cleaning up a regular mess. I don't know

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I I think I think you shouldn't sell short just the small pleasure of

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Cleaning up you know, but but I get what you mean that like let's say your stovetop or whatever

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You let it go for a while and then the feeling of looking at it once you've

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Take care of this yeah on the other side. Yeah, that is a great feeling yeah

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What was your what's your specific? Oh, we don't want it. We don't need to get into specifics, okay?

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It could be anywhere. It could be anything. It's just a matter of what happens when very much thought that you were

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Getting to like and that's I cooked the right I cleaned the oven all right

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Okay, so there's cleaning the stables, and then there's cleaning stables

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So dirty that the Greeks will never not write legends about it. You just like cleaning the dog bed

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It's cleaning a toilet

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It had to be done, man

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I don't understand why you are so precious about this as if like because it's more fun. It's more fun

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Look, I mean what you call it a fuck stick. I charge you a video like what do you want?

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But whenever it's a toilet. There's something very fun about being a demure. I enjoy it. Oh, I cannot talk about

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Exactly yes, I enjoy. I don't know why it's more fun for me. Okay. Yeah, I don't actually feel any embarrassment, okay?

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Well

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I'm not apologizing for drawing it out of you. Please don't okay

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So Jordan today. We have an episode to go over all right. We're gonna be talking about something

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Off the beaten path today, and so we'll get down to that in just a moment

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But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some waltz great idea so first

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I live in Portland and have lived there most of my life

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What is the purpose of me knowing so much about weirdo American fascist propagandists?

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Oh wait Poland not Portland that makes way more sense more sense. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much

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Thank you next. I'm the pelican hop inside my mouth if you want to live. Thank you so much

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You're now palsy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you, and okay fine patty. I'll become a wonk already

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Let me know when this airs because I'll probably be three months behind signed toaster. Thank you so much. You're now palsy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, and we got a 10 credit in the mixture

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So thank you so much to Hobbes is a

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Soros globalist who gets all this news from knowledge fight, and he will always be my bright spot

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And he's dying to know what Alex said right after I don't want to hate black people

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But he knows it couldn't be anything good. Happy birthday, and may you continue to dream of Jean Hackman

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Thank you so much. You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk

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Someone sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent

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He's a loser little little titty, baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ

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Thank you so much. Thank you very much so

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Today I said we're going off the beaten path a little bit

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and we're gonna discuss a little bit of an adventure that I went on a little bit accidentally and

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Some of the feelings that came up because of it okay

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So to just start things off give a little bit of context for how this ball got rolling

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As Alex's bankruptcy case has gone on I've tried to limit the amount that we cover that

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Subject just for a number of reasons that I hope people understand sure

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The first is that it largely surrounds issues that I don't know much about and aren't in the lane that I think you and I

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Are suited to cover I don't think either of us are particularly good at business

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So I think that we're out of our depth when we trying to get the weeds about the minutia of business dealings

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Which is such a huge part of the bankruptcy stuff true the second and larger part is that different people have different ideas about?

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Exactly how this should play out and the precise details of it. I largely think aren't our business

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Typically this just isn't our turf except the parts when Alex very clearly explains his strategy to defraud the courts on his show

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That's where most of our commentary has come in because Alex is forcing our hand by laying out his schemes with the subtlety of a bond

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villain

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However a couple months back

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There was a filing in the bankruptcy case that I think helps highlight an important theme that I want to discuss

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On March 17th a lawyer from Ohio named Robert Wynn young filed a motion in the case to appear pro hoc Vichay

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This is a request that's made when a person who's licensed to practice law in one place

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Wants to act as a lawyer in another place and the court allows it for a limited time

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Young isn't allowed to just be a lawyer in Connecticut now, but for the purposes of this case

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He's in good standing as a lawyer. So the court has accepted his accreditation to appear as if he were

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Licensed to get sure his motion for pro hoc Vichay was approved and the next day

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He filed a huge motion to intervene actively in the case and requested that the whole process be put on hold so he could present

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Evidence that the judgment against Alex was fraudulent and thus the bankruptcy was based on

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fraudulent debts that Alex could owe I'm in right

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Initially your thought might be that this is someone trying to defend Alex and this was just another stalling tactic from the info wars side

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But it's actually a little bit crazier in his filing young lays out a dumb theory that Alex and his lawyers

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intentionally through the case as part of an elaborate

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Conspiracy where he was working with the other side's lawyers in a plot to destroy the first and second amendments

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Okay

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His basis for the argument is that Alex's lawyers never tried to get the initial case to be heard in federal court

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Specifically by asserting federal question jurisdiction. They had tried to move the case to federal court, but only through claiming diversity

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Diversity jurisdiction and that's the big tell that they were taking a dive

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Diversity jurisdiction is the thing someone can claim when they're being sued in another state's court by a person who lives in that state

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So in this case Alex is from Texas and he's being sued in Connecticut state court by Connecticut plaintiffs

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So claiming diversity jurisdiction could be a way for him as a defendant

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To make sure that he's not gonna have a local jury or court be biased against him as an out-of-state person

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Conversely federal question jurisdiction is something that could be claimed when an action at the root of a case is something that's gonna involve the

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Constitution or federal laws

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Young's claim is that this case involves the First Amendment, but the state court can't handle constitutional questions

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So the fact that Alex didn't remove the case to federal court shows that he was throwing the case

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The issue is that the federal question jurisdiction is something that the plaintiffs can assert not the defendant

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As the defendant, it's not Alex's place to claim federal question jurisdiction

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The only thing that he can do is assert constitutional reasons as a protection from the claims being made by the plaintiffs

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It's considered established law that the likelihood of a defendant using the Constitution or federal law as a defense

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That's not enough for a defendant to claim federal question jurisdiction

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So even if the plaintiffs in this case would have wanted to do that like say hey our

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Argument is gonna be rebutted by Alex saying this is First Amendment stuff. Even that isn't enough to make this

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Something subject to federal question jurisdiction. Mm-hmm

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It would have to be the plaintiffs saying the root of what we're saying is that our First Amendment right was

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Violated in this case then it would become something that's relevant for federal question jurisdiction

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Sure

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Young's argument is that because Alex didn't do this thing that he couldn't have done he threw the case and it was all a plot

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In order to make sure that the claims about Sandy Hook would never have to be decided in court

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From the beginning Alex was in on this defaming these families because he knew to do so would eventually lead to a lawsuit

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Which he would throw and would then destroy the first and second amendments

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Suffice it to say that young is a mess

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But because I was really curious about where he was coming from I decided to watch his entire almost two-hour

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PowerPoint presentation that he did with some channel on rumble hosted by a guy who calls himself Victor Hugo great

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It was all pretty dumb and most of the points that he brought up could be explained pretty easily by him engaging in

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What seems like very obvious misunderstandings, but through the watching of this video?

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I was struck by something I realized that we haven't spent much time covering

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Which is the criticism of Alex that comes from the conspiracy side of the world

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There was something about how they were talking about Alex that interested me probably because it was dumb

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But also because when I started this show it was partially because of this kind of vapid

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Conspiracy based conspiracy of Alex and how that was the only thing that seemed to exist no one

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Criticized him except for these kinds of conspiracy criticisms. Sure sure sure sure sure

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I was reminded of some feeling that I hadn't really engaged with in years and it led me to exploring this Victor Hugo guys

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Channel a little bit more

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I'll just peel off the band-aid here and say that he's a huge anti-semite

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He is an obsession with saying that he's quote noticing things sure

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Noticing is a big anti-semitic dog whistle and buzzword

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It's meant to say like I'm noticing that the Jews run the world, but you don't have to say that explicitly

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You know you can kind of say I'm noticing things. Yeah, okay for instance

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Let's say there's a big business guy like Larry Fink and you want to talk about how he's Jewish

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But you're not sure if the person you're talking to is on the same bigot wave as you so you say

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I noticed something about that guy and if the person gets what you're saying then you get to talk freely

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You know you get get into the weeds right? It's a secret handshake

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Yeah

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But if they don't recognize what you're saying then you haven't shown too many of your cards

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And you can't like there's still plausible deniability. I like that. I think that's good. That's what noticing is yeah

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Yeah, yeah, yeah stay in your own home. I can't force you to not do this obviously we live in this world

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I can't do it well sure

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I mean the flip side of it is that it makes it way easier for these folks to communicate in ways

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That are spreading these you know Nazi ish ideas

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In plain view that people you know it's the same thing that we talked about a lot with the crypto language

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And oh sure I mean I just you know just keep them in the same place

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Keep them in a little place keep them in a under adult sure keep them in a hole anyway

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Hugo Victor Hugo he started the show called the noticing and

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The first or second episode of it depending on if you trust the title or the content of the episode

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Victor Hugo had Robert Wynn young on as a guest to discuss the motion to reopen this

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Sandy Hook case through the bankruptcy court sure in order to unveil this great

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Cover-up that had gone on that'll do it. It's sort of interesting

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Maybe I guess but when I watched the interview the thing that stuck out most to me was Hugo's co-host

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There's a guy named Dustin Nemos who he introduces here in this clip the noticing Dustin Nemos

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Is there anything you'd like to share with the audience on this premiere episode about the Nemos news network?

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Well first of all Victor welcome to the news network. I appreciate the backup

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We needed help and your work and content has been you know second to none

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I mean you're out there noticing, and I appreciate it, and I hope others do as well

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You know with that said formalities aside this particular episode is very important

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And what when young is doing is very important because Alex Jones calls himself the most censored man alive calls himself the tip of the spear

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And in fact is just another controlled opposition Jewish asset

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Probably Masad ran or CIA ran and we know he's connected to the CIA and he's out there

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Giving us 80% 90% truth and then making us look crazy stupid or

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Even criminal now with the other 10% and what he's doing by throwing this case and you know basically

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Refusing to call it a First Amendment issue

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He is essentially setting us all up to be either afraid of speaking the truth

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Or possibly even have a precedent to actually come after us in the courts for speaking the truth

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So Alex Jones is not the tip of the spear. He's not the most censored man alive

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He's one of the greatest threats to free speech that we have so suffice it to say that Dustin is another

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anti-semite who actually believes the Jewish people aren't human and he frequently advocates for what he calls the Obadiah 18 solution

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Which is a reference to Bible verse that reads quote and the house of Jacob shall be a fire and the house of Joseph aflame

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And the house of Esau for stubble for they shall kindle in them and devour them and there shall be

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Not be any remaining of the house of Esau for the Lord hath spoken it sure sure basically is a proponent of

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Exterminating all Jewish people. Yeah, you can dress it up

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However, you like with literary references if you if you if you buzz sure and you could use that fun dog whistling thing of like

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Obadiah 18 that's always fun. Yeah. Yeah Dustin has some really bad positions

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But he doesn't shy away from it at all other than using these phrasing games like noticing and over

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That kind of stuff so I saw this guy as like this guy is interesting to me and I don't know why

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Obviously, they're weirdos talking about Alex Jones. Sure, which is you know, somewhat similar to what I do

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Yeah, just a different version, you know, there's there's uh

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What I feel this from a lot of people

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This like there's a social pressure

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and I think a lot of the times what people are

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Reacting to in in this kind of like all the tone police kind of stuff is the anxiety you have towards

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What if I say something and I discover after the fact that this person is very clearly personally offended by it

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And I didn't mean it in a personally offensive way, right?

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And so I understand why people feel that way

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I don't often feel that way because my first thought when that guy started talking was if this guy was talking to me

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I would say you sound like a psycho

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You got to deal with whatever that is before we can continue this conversation

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And then people would be anxious because they'd be like what if he says oh

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This is how I was born to talk like that

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Then I would say then you need to change it or not be on this mic. Well, that's how we do things here

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You know, it's not even about like how he's talking in a way of like people have different communication styles

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Sure, you know, it's not it's not some kind of a judgment that you're making about

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Like something he could be neurodivergent

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It is appropriate for it is inappropriate for now. Yeah. Yeah, but also it's a you're doing a lot of noticing

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You gotta stop doing that kind of stuff

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The way you're communicating is meant to convey something that is far beyond

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The polite way that you're pretending to talk. Yeah. Yeah, you know, there's there's I think a lot of people took that

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You know right speech leads to right action to mean like the meaning of your speech leads to the the meaning of your action

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Right, maybe just you know, you're talking wrong talk different. Maybe you'll do different. Who knows maybe yeah, so

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Dustin goes on to talk about how Alex will never say it's the Jews

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Yeah, and this is well, you know a large part I think of his criticism of Alex

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Sure is he won't he won't point out Jewish people

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You know others have pointed this out but when what you're doing is

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You know, it's taking it to the level of legal proofs to show this in a court setting now

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I don't know that they're ever gonna like get in with the courts

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They're probably gonna cover this up at some point but by then it's too late

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We'll have gotten the information out and Alex Jones is he's falling. He's almost done

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He's he's he's no longer trusted his credibility of shot since October 7th

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He couldn't figure out bombing babies was bad or that it was even happening for a long long time

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I I definitely you know

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I am curious as to how this is gonna go in the courts and what his response is gonna be

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But I am gonna share my my website here if I can pull it back out

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I have too many options to share so that's kind of confusing

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So I have a post on Alex Jones. I mentioned it earlier. It's called Alex never Jew Jones

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Can you guys see this

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Yes

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So I'm not gonna make everybody go through all this but

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Working on it earlier to make it a little bit neater

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I have a documentary where I basically show that he will never ever expose Jews for anything

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He always you know, Nazis chai comms globalists

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Whatever anything but the Jews. That's why I called him never Jew Jones

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And in you know, obviously that's a side topic

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But in the case of modern politics people in my audience know at least in my opinion

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It's them behind everything every single time. I think we got why you called him that you need to explain

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Yeah

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The nickname very very simple and direct unless you miss here it and you're like never J

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Is that like is that African never Jew? Is that no no never mind. Okay. All right, so I

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Stumbled upon this because I was looking into this weirdo who had

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Inserted himself into Alex's bankruptcy case

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Yeah in a weird way that kind of works to Alex's advantage because it's crazy

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Yeah, it's never gonna work. No, and it's just gonna stall things and that's all Alex wants. He wants to just stall things

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Yep, and so there was a part of me that's like what who is this? What's the what's what's going on?

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And him being on this show with these anti-semit

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It's like huh, that's interesting and as I was watching it I was like

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Dustin is almost a perfect embodiment of the thing that was unsatisfying eight years ago

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Yeah

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When I started asking a lot of these questions and exploring Alex in a more serious way

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Mm-hmm, and that felt weird

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yeah, and then I was like I'm

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I'm continuing to watch this and

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Now I'm watching more videos of dust. Oh god, and I I was like why and it dawned on me that I

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You'll see. Okay. There's a bunch of things that just didn't seem right with the case

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And people are noticing so to speak

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And then of course the other things that he's done as well down here with his associations his connections to the CIA

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His refusal to call out atrocities

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Like, you know war crimes and ethnic cleansing of Gaza and such

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Basically this post has everything you need if you want to talk about Alex Jones

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I don't want to like go through the whole thing because it's quite long. I've been dealing with him for for many years

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He hates me. I'm Voldemort at Infowars the guy who must not be named

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He's threatened to kill me on air before all of its on video

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Alex Jones does not like me very much

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But that's because I've been exposing for him for about eight years now and before that I watched him growing up

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I mean, I know this guy as well as he knows himself

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I watched him since he was a young person and I was a child

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You know 16 years basically watching Infowars growing up on Infowars seeing how Alex Jones operates and seeing when he'd let us down

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I hate to say this because Dustin sucks a lot

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But I would be lying if I didn't see a bit of a funhouse mirror of myself. Yeah. Yeah

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This is fucked up. Yeah, that's very weird. That's weird

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We both entered into examining Alex Jones with a similar question namely. There's something wrong here

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But what is it what's going on? Mm-hmm?

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If you watch Alex's show with anything more than a passive eye

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You can't help but notice that his actions do not match the character

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He's presenting himself as and even more troublingly his positions on stuff seems to shift more than it should

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He presents his beliefs as black and white where he's working with God to fight the devil

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But then on a day-to-day basis, he often engages with news like someone who believes in gray areas and lesser of two evils ideas

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It doesn't make sense as a show which is fine if people are just listening to it for an emotional fix

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Alex performs the outbursts that are cathartic for the audience and he insists that his outbursts are rooted in academic research and divinely granted

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wisdom, so it's

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Questionably correct based on earthly and heavenly standards if that's all you want then his contradictions

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Don't really matter and you might not even see them

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But if you pay closer attention his show will bother you

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It'll start to come to your attention that things that you were being sold last year aren't so important anymore

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You'll begin to see that this disaster that the globalists are about to trigger is the same thing

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Alex was telling you they were gonna trigger two years ago, which never happened to steal Dustin's favorite word

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You'll start noticing things and that's a split in the road for that person. That's what you come upon

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There's just you have to make a choice

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Because they're able to put their finger on this nebulous thing that makes Alex's show

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Confusing this person who confronts that fork in the road

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They can't enjoy it in the same passive way that the bulk of the audience probably does

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The itch of what's going on here? What the fuck is wrong? That doesn't go away

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So if they really are asking questions

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Then this fork in the road appears and they have to choose a path as I see it

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There are three paths that split from this road

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The first is the path of just accepting what the mainstream media would tell you about Alex

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You can find plenty of clips on him about him on sites like media matters or the SPLC that are fairly accurate most of the time

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But they lose a lot of context and they present him a bit too dimensionally and a little cartoony

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It's a generally correct picture of Alex that gets painted like he's an angry idiot

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He's dangerous, etc. But it also fails to paint the whole picture

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This is what I would describe as the pacifying off-ramp for conspiracy theories. You can go that path

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It's possible. The second path is what I've attempted to do with this show

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I took Alex at his word and then assessed the claims he was making

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If he was correct, I would be an info warrior if he was wrong

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I would seek to understand what he was wrong about and the context that the errors were made in

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Why do you reach the conclusion that you reach based on this?

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Misuse of information or this fake thing when primary source documents are provided

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I would go find them read them and then read up on what was going on around the time of that documents creation

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What was this document made in response to who was creating this document and most importantly?

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Is this a fake document I would call this path a risky

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Open-hearted path. It's you might end up learning that Alex Jones is right about stuff

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Sure, and you have to make peace with that if you're gonna walk down this road

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Sure

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The third path is the one that Dustin is on

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He believed Alex and the conspiracies that Alex was selling him very deeply for that 16 years that he was listening to Alex's show

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So when the fork in the road came the only way he could engage with Alex was through the internal language of conspiracy

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He was able to correctly assess that Alex was lying

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But it was too threatening to the worldview that he'd created to ask if Alex had been lying about the fundamental

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Conspiracy shit that Dustin had used to understand the world over that time

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The conspiracy worldview must remain intact

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But the goal is to now find a way to incorporate an evil version of Alex into that world

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He's a limited hangout. He works for the Jews

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It's a perfectly simple solution to a problem that if not resolved simply could lead to an identity crisis

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This third path is the radicalization path and it's why a lot of folks who are more extreme than Alex

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They still consider his existence a net positive

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Over time overt neo-nazis and the like they knew that a lot of their ranks came from people who were quote

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Woken up by Alex and eventually they grew past him

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They recognized Alex as a first step in the initiation process that some people might never get past

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but it also provided a much larger potential recruitment pool than they would have had access to otherwise a

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Regular everyday person is not gonna gravitate towards media that just screams that Jews are inhuman monsters

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But they might dip their toe into infowars if they get into infowars

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It becomes possible for the neo-nazis to then start asking them if they notice anything about Alex and plant seeds that draw them

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Closer to the Jews are inhuman monsters type of shows

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Frankly Dustin's existence is kind of evidence of this without Alex's influence

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It's likely that he wouldn't have been in a place where his

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Disillusion with Alex as a white supremacist figure would have led him to create the kind of media that he does

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His explicit bigotry grew out of becoming tired with Alex's cagey bigotry

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So what's the point I'm driving at here?

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Essentially the thing that I want to stress is that the danger of what Alex does

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Exists on the surface level and I believe we you know covered that in terms of the LA protests recently

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Sure, but it also has a tendency toward funneling people down these sorts of paths and creating people like this

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Alex is full of shit and he engages with information in a way that's full of shit his lies

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You know in his misinterpretations of data points. He does it in a way to serve

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Furthering whatever storyline he's using to keep the audience interested and buying pills. That's a large part of his business operation

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Yeah, he's also speaking to something very real which is an underlying feeling that people have that something about society isn't right

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Load bearing pieces of how our country operates are designed in systemic ways to hurt certain people and benefit others

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Most people feel this way on some level or another

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Some are able to suppress it and say yeah

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It's the cost of living in the modern world, but others try to seek out explanations for why things are the way they are

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Some of that exploration it leads people to advocacy and political organizing

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But a lot of it also goes to more entertainment based shit

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For decades Alex was the leading figure of the media space that catered to the people who wanted to find an answer for why the

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World wasn't how they felt it should be and he provided easy answers. It's the globalists

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Globalists, it's fucking simple. It's complicated, but it's simple

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It's a perfect and undefinable explanation for why things feel wrong and it's one you can superimpose onto pretty much any story you want

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If there's a new villain that pops up in the world

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It's easy to say they're a globalist if someone who was previously a hero betrays the Patriots

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Then it's easy to just say that they were a secret globalist all along or that the globalist got to them

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Alex creates this ecosystem because it's where he can keep people as customers so long as they don't get too inquisitive if they start

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Noticing how his narratives are inconsistent and his actions over time are pretty suspicious

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It has a tendency to lead them right to that fork in the road and one of the paths is way more

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likely to be chosen than the others

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That third path the radicalization path is far more likely to be taken because it's easy

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Taking the first path requires that you blindly accept the information being given to you by sources that you previously

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Considered evil like media matters. You're not gonna just immediately adopt. Oh, they're actually great

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I love them now

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taking the second path requires you to assess information from a

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Dispassionate position and risk reaching conclusions that the worldview that you adopted is a fraud

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Essentially each of these options demand that you disrupt the way that you've engaged with the world up to that point

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Whereas the third option just requires you shift around a couple of your opinions while allowing you to maintain the same lazy easy

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Worldview that drew you into infowars in the first place

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So I was watching another Victor Hugo interview with Justin Nemos and I found one moment that I thought really

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Illustrated this point incredibly well

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I mean I've talked about all these different persecutions and I mentioned earlier that they are exempt from military service

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Let me share that one with you because they now want us to go die for their wars again

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I will not die for the Jews. I will not fight for the Jews, but they are actually

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Exempt from military service. Here's the the document. It's found at NARA National Archives and Records Administration

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I've got a link there and everything but just pulling that up so you guys can see it here

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Make it a little bit bigger. It's got the funny picture on it and everything

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But this is a real Central Committee Anti-Defamation League

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Record where they're basically saying that Jews will be exempt from the wars

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It was unclassified. We can all see it now for ourselves and it says, you know stupid Goyim nations

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That's what they call us

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It says they support the draft, but they don't want it for them

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So this is you know

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It says quote we can repeat our triumphs of 1918 if we maintain our

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United Front and the dumb Goyim will fight while we profit end quote

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So Dustin says there's a funny picture there and then of course is a racist cartoon of a Jewish man that you see on all

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The cool racist sites like Twitter chair and formerly it was mostly in places like message boards and storm front but now Twitter

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Because the world's cool

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So this cartoon is next to a screenshot of a document which is said to be from the National Archives and Records Administration

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It provides a link to a website called

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Israel lobby org which takes you to the the document

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This is a website run by a group called the Institute for Research Middle East Policy

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Which houses a large collection of documents that have been released due to declassification or foia requests

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About groups like the ADL the link that Dustin's meme goes to is a

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126 page PDF of documents from the FBI

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most of this PDF is a list of contacts inside the ADL that were provided by the group secretary to the FBI with the assurance that

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These contacts would cooperate with the FBI in investigations that they might be doing. This was a letter from September

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1940 so the mind reels about what the context of their cooperation might have been during World War two hmm

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After a long list of contacts is some stray pages one of which serves as the basis for the meme that Dustin is discussing

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This is headlined quote special notice to all Jews exclamation point

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It starts quote the Central Conference of American rabbis at the 47th annual conference held in New York on June 26th

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1937 declared for exemption of Jews from military service in accordance with the highest interpretation of Judaism

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The document goes on quote

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Why should we the only truly international people be concerned with the mutable interests of stupid goyim nations?

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We must do everything in our power to help the great president who has helped us so greatly in establishing control

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Support the draft law when it is presented to the American people

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Support England and France for they are fighting Judah's greatest enemy the goyim German state

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This was the Conference of American rabbis

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But they were you know if they were gonna be able to pull this off

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They need you know a little bit extra push sure which is convenient because in the document it says quote

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Powerful Jews will be in all draft boards and Jewish physicians will protect you from military service

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Arrangements are already made to exempt you in case religious exemptions cannot be prepared in time

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You are warned to Renault renounce abjure repudiate and deny any of this information if questioned by Gentiles

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Even under oath as outlined in the Talmud and justified for the preservation of our race

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It is so nice whenever the people I'm being racist to

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Just do exactly what I would want them to do

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My hands can be so convenient because it's almost like it completely justifies my raises

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Because otherwise if you stop and think about mm-hmm racism is unjustifiable

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There's really nothing you can do except in very specific circumstances

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Situate such as this one right here. Yeah, yeah when your racism is so justified by cartoonish villainry right now see now

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I've always hated racist because I thought racism was bad, but I realize it's just because their reasons were bad right

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They didn't have anything like this

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Come on, I'm swayed

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Physiognomy of course that's bullshit, but this is real. It's a document. This is how you know it

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They had to sign it

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So this is a pretty obviously fake document because it's written like how a Nazi would imagine a secret cabal of Jews to speak

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Yeah, a real document like this would be able to control the urge to editorialize about stupid goyim nations

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But a fake document created to stoke hate and stir up feelings and emotions

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It would lean into that kind of thing also a real document like this would probably not have printed at the end

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Don't say shit about this

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I mean if you must lie about this most the most if anything like this were real the most

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Evidence you could have would be something so oblique as to be like hey

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Do you have the name of the guy that got onto that voting board like that would be it like that would be the only?

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Evidence that there is any kind of thing because you do this shit face to face you don't write it down

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Yeah, you don't write it down. It's like that classic joke Tammy Pascatelli joke

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It's like talking on the phone with her dad's like I shot a pilot

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So further supporting evidence that this is a fake document is that the 47th conference of American rabbis was held in 1936 not

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1937 and it took place in Cape May, New Jersey not in New York

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These are basic details that an authentic document

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They would not get that wrong and these are often the fingerprints of propaganda around this time

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It's designed to demonize Jewish people

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This is an obviously fake document and as it turns out the reason that it was in the FBI's files

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That got released is because someone in Cleveland had found this flyer at their workplace and reported it to the FBI in

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1943 good stuff you might notice that that date also in the middle of World War two when Nazi propaganda

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Pretty high popular even in the United States very hip popular in the United States. So this leads me to my point

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by taking the metaphorical third path a person like Dustin is able to incorporate the new information that Alex is a lying piece of

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Shit, but still maintain the freedom to play the same games with information that he enjoyed doing while he was an infowars fan

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All of the taking shortcuts and ignoring the fact that your sources are

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Transparently fake because they make the point you want to arrive at you can still do all of that stuff

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Because fundamentally all you've done is replace the target of your escapist explanations

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Alex would tell you that it's all the globalists, but now you just get to say it's all the Jews

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You've added another layer on the onion. Yeah, you really haven't you haven't replaced the target

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You've just you've it's the same thing because it's not real. It says it's as real as the globe

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You've replaced the target in a sense

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You've squinted your eyes

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Like the problem is the problem with both of them is at the end

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Okay

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So say you do it say you get rid of all the Jews

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You can't because five years later

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Somebody would be like I'm Jewish and you have to say that that's okay because that's how it works

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You can never get rid of that. You can never get rid of the globalist

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You can never get rid of because it's not real. It's all in your head

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It's all made up and and Dustin does spend a lot of time talking about crypto Jews

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And so like exactly there will never be an end, right?

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There's just who I'm feeling like is the problem right now because it's really like my boss, right?

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But this is essentially what I mean by changing the target exactly is is like it's not really a change

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But it is an aesthetic change and a little bit of a shift that allows you to maintain

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Exactly what you were doing before I'm hanging out with different people now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this guy's an asshole

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Hanging out with these guys over here you suck

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Yeah

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Going down this third path is a way to challenge your conclusion

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ie

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Alex Jones is a good guy truth-teller while never needing to challenge the way you arrived at your conclusions to begin with ie

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Alex Jones coached me to mishandle information in strategic ways that benefited him and now I'm starting to see through

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People like this aren't threatening to Alex. They're just kind of annoying

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They make him feel like people think he's a poser and they have a tendency to chip away a little bit at Alex's audience

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But these folks don't fundamentally represent any risk to the conspiratorial worldview that Alex exploits and profits from I

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Think the reason that I was able to approach the fork in the road differently and go down this second path

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It's not because I have some intellectual or moral character that's better than anyone or even Dustin

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It's because I didn't inherently believe Alex's shit to begin with

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So whatever conclusion I arrived at it wasn't personally threatening

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I liked conspiracy theories and I fucked around with acting like they could be real when I was out drinking with friends

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But I didn't really believe that 9-eleven was an inside job

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For someone in the position of an infowars fan that calculus is totally different and in order to reach the very simple

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Conclusion that Alex Jones is just a dumb liar

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You have to give up a much larger framework of things that you believe and have believed for a long time

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It's so much easier to just create a new conspiracy on top of the old one and pretty much always goes in the direction of

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discovering that Alex works for the Jews

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So for Dustin, I fucking hate him and I think he represents a disgusting ideology

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So fuck it

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It probably felt like I was gonna get to the end of this and express some kind of empathy for this guy and encourage

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Understanding and maybe in another time I might have done that but I'm not really interested in that anymore

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I get why he's gone down the roads that he's gone down and I do think the deck was stacked against him

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But that doesn't excuse becoming a Nazi

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Understanding how Alex's media strategy leads people to this kind of place is important and placing an amount of blame on Alex is correct

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These are fucking adults. I'm not gonna infantilize these dipshits probably wise so fuck this guy and fuck this Nazi bullshit. Yeah

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but I

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Find it very interesting. Mm-hmm to see

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This guy who also does have a little bit of a mirror myself

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Yeah, sure. And I think that that is the I think a lot of that is the fundamental difference. I

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Asked these questions sincerely. Mmm about what Alex is doing. He thought he was yeah

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But he was unwilling to give up the framework that he entered the question with

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Well, I mean the thing about that though

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Is that you then having noticed that you haven't dealt with what that would mean to then reply to you

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You've noticed that you did not enter with the same framework

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Which is why you are not ending in the same place because he's unable to let go of his framework

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You haven't analyzed whether or not you've been able to let go of your own framework

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I have you I have let go of a lot of pieces of things that were fairly important to me prior to

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You know examine a lot of these prior assumptions that I had about the world sure a lot of things that I believed about

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power a lot of things that I believed about

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How the media worked there was much more naivete that I had

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10

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12 years ago sure, let's say we were still friends with the SPLC

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but I think a lot of it came from a place of not really caring that much sure as opposed to

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a place where I'm like, I

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Actually thought that everything in society is built for everyone's best interest, right?

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Right, I didn't have like a position that

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Everything Alex is saying is not true. Let's say right. I just didn't really care that much

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It's with the examination

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The first step of it is really the risky part sure

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Where because I could take that step and find all shit Alex is right or I could take that step and find

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So a lot of this stuff that I previously took for granted or just didn't really care about that requires an updating of how I?

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See things. Yeah

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Whereas there is no risk in just being like, oh, it's the Jews

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There's no risk. No. No, there isn't people aren't gonna like you, but they didn't like you and you were an info warrior either

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Yeah, I already thought like your beliefs were weird and not

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Fun to be around most of the time

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So you're not really socially ostracizing yourself that much more by being like oh, I hate Jews now

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yeah, you limit your pool of people you can hang around with a little bit, but it's

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Not much, you know, it reminds me. I think this is a I brought it up too many times

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But it's becoming more relevant because it's so wrong about everything but that book about brainwashing

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right like

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In in another way of looking at it you could describe any act of learning information

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That is not the same information that you currently hold

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But would occupy the same space in your brain as being a painful

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Process of removing the old information and then putting the new information in its place. Mm-hmm, right?

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So that could be what we describe as brainwashing or just regular learning, you know

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It is a process of risk as you put it to go

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Well, if this is wrong, I have to remove it entirely

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I can no longer have this piece of information and it must be replaced by information that could then alter

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Everything else that I know. Mm-hmm, and that's dangerous sure and it's not purifying like it's not no, it doesn't feel better

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But but also do exactly the same doing that about one question

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Sure doesn't mean that you've done that process for everything

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There are blind spots and shit that you don't even know you need to re-examine sure that

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Don't you don't become aware of it until it gets brought up or something, you know, like it's a constant process of

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re-examining and taking the risk of opening up that part of your brain to like I might learn something new that's a little bit threatening to

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You know where I was comfortable totally and I think that what this represents is

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The resistance to doing that. Mmm. I think that this is as opposed to taking that risk

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you're I

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Don't know putting a hat on it sure, you know, you're just like oh no, I'm a cool guy

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I'm a cool different kind of guy now as opposed to

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Really fundamentally examining if Alex is full of shit

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What does that mean for the past 16 years that you've been watching the show? Sure

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What all do you need to clean up?

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Cuz he just works for the Jews doesn't do it

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No, it doesn't clean up the clutter of that 16 years you think it does but that's just cuz you put a hat on yeah

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Yeah

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Cuz yeah, you got a you got to go back you got a dig. Mm-hmm cuz it's a root problem, you know

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Yes

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It is a it is a full-on whatever information that you are talking about right now is

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Not the problem that needs to be rooted out and it's a it's a bud and now that's why I think the handling

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of that

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Jewish people don't have to join the army thing is

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So illustrative of what the digging that's not being done is yeah

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Alex uses sources the exact same way. Yep total bullshit out of context. It means nothing

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This is just something that is used to prop up whatever the storyline he's telling is

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Yep

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Dustin is still doing the exact same thing

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Using this source to prop up the storyline that he wants to tell which is Jews are behind everything

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That's evil and wrong. So the digging would probably be indicated by

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Him not using a shortcut like this not cheating not using a source

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in an info war Z fashion sure and to me that I

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Think is a marker of not F non effort. Sure. I

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Mean, I suppose I suppose F non effort in the direction that you're angling for

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I think effort is not necessarily the same thing, you know, like I'm sure he does stuff sure

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Absolutely, hmm no, I mean but I mean it is interesting to go back and

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Like to listen to something that he said in the context that he said it which is like, oh he hates me

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He's threatened by me and then like cuz I stopped and think about it. And of course, he's not

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but also he's not threatened by

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The SPLC or anything and then it's it's exactly like it's exactly like power the people that have it

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You don't need to mention them the reason the people he's threatened by he will never speak

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I'm not interested in having a pissing contest with this Nazi

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I'm not saying that like oh you think he's afraid of you, but he's really afraid of me

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I have no interest in that sure. I don't think that we are actually even threatening to Alex

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We've been around for eight years. Sure. It has only affected him in

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Infinitesimal ways, right? I think that second path

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The awareness of that and the awareness that this third path is bullshit

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That's threatening to out sure and it's also threatening to this guy, right?

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Yeah, because they operate and profit off the exact same

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Abuse of information. Yeah the same

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lazy shortcuts and bullshit nonsense

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That's what's threatening right? It's threatening to both of them, right?

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Sure

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I just I'm just thinking about as as far as the root analogy is concerned this we are what it like

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What looks like to try and get to the root?

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Mm-hmm and not just deal with shit like when are you when you describe? Oh, this is how Alex uses sources

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He made up complete bullshit. It doesn't mean anything and it fits whatever story they're trying to tell the tell

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That's also what is being told about Alex that's also the the media talking about Alex bullshit

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Nonsense doesn't mean anything and using it to tell the story. They want to tell sometimes Alex has remembered that he's apologized

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Sometimes he's not doing you know, like it is it is a matter of narrative for them

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what is being crafted and again, it's in a similar way if they actually go down and

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Try and get to the root of what they're doing. They'd have to change

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I think

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Yes in much different ways. Yes in much different ways, but that's but again, it's the root

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It has to be the root and if you're not dealing with that there, then this is where we are

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Yeah, I agree

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But disagree with your assessment of the root being the same sure because I think that both roots of

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like

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Bullshit media like Alex and this guy. Mm-hmm and mainstream media both have problems

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But they're different problems. Sure the thing the things that you would want to address about

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Them you can't use the same pesticide on both in order to protect the roots, right? Right

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Well, it's a different fungus. Let me try and let me try and alter the point of view that I'm trying to express here

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Okay, it is to me that

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Alex exists as the problem in the media Alex is the media's problem the media

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Exists and where it fails

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Alex grows. Mm-hmm. That's where that so the two of them are not I don't think they're the same

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But they are a system that works together. Mm-hmm an ascendant useful accurate media

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By its nature pushes Alex down. Mm-hmm bullshit allows Alex to flourish, right?

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Right, and I think that if I could I'll piggyback on what you're saying a little bit

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I think and that is the point that I was making about Alex like he is

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Touching on something that's fundamentally true, which is the world is disorganized, right?

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The world is not organized in a way that works to all of our benefits, right?

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And there are intentional choices that entrench power and in trench

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Going along to get along exactly and

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Because of that

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Alex is able to provide a

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Bullshit answer that's satisfying and easy for people sure and that's what he offers

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And he can only offer that because the media can't offer a good answer

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Right partially because the truth and the reality of the world is deeply complex and there is no headline

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You're gonna be able. Yeah, I'm not saying

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And partially because a lot of those media companies they have their vested interest in the maintenance of

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That power and access to power. So like yeah, obviously that is probably a much larger piece

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But even if that wasn't the case

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You and I couldn't boil down

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Something into a headline that is gonna is gonna explain why the world is complicated. No, so even in perfect

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situations, there's still a market share that Alex could have

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but

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We're out of balance

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We are out of balance. There's a koya on a Scotty situation is it is of all the thing?

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You don't have to be a specialist in balance to look out and go like if there was a balance

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This ain't it. You don't need to be Rodney Mullen to understand that this isn't balanced

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We're not doing that I don't know just because it's your turn you don't want to do it

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I just I just got so many gymnasts in my head and now I'm like you don't need to be Biles to

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Take it and it's just not gonna it's not gonna go

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I don't have to be that guy from the documentary about the tight wire between the buildings and the twin towers

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No, I think it's man on one man on one man on wire yeah, he had good balance

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He did or did wait did he die? I don't think so. Okay, there's one there's one now

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that's like roof crawlers rooftop errs a love story, which is like

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But then it at the everybody dies like they all fall in real life people climb up high things

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Yeah, yeah, and they're like, ah look at me and then they post it on Instagram, but sometimes they fall. Yeah. Yeah, it's a risk

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Yeah, I think that ice I know that I saw a man on wire

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Mm-hmm, and I think I would remember if it ended with him falling. I feel like that would be a huge memory

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But who knows exactly?

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anyway, I

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Thought

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That this was interesting. It was a it was a subject

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And it's you know, it's something we can pre record to have while you're on vacation. But also here's the here's the thing that I found

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Notable about the entire experience. Okay, I

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Started down this road because of Wynn Young and this filing in Alex's

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Bankruptcy case. Yeah, it's led me to this anti-semitic

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Channel and this guy who is a distorted reflection in some ways of the path that I've gone down

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right with my life I

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understand

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What this guy's doing, you know like in terms of the

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methodology of misusing information and all this shit the

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Disillusion with conspiracy leading to adding a layer of conspiracy on top of it

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And I realized the deeper and the further that I went down watching this guy

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It's exactly the same thing with Wynn Young

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like

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There's a simple explanation for Alex's

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Court stuff. Yeah, it's he's a criminal

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He's doing illegal shit that does tend to it does tend to solve things whenever you really cut to the quick

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He was hoping to kick the can down the road to make it too expensive for these people to continue suing him. It's not like

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Sandy Hook didn't happen and he's part of an elaborate

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Conspiracy in order to make sure that he loses this case in order to make sure that no one ever has to know that

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Sandy Hook was fake. Mm-hmm. Like this is

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Your conspiracy hit a dead end. There's a very simple explanation for it and instead of

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Challenging what led you to the stupid conspiracy to begin with you've added a new layer on top of it and Wynn's doing that

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Dustin's doing that and that's

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It's an it's an interesting inverse to the I don't know. I don't know if this is a true story

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Maybe it's apocryphal, but it's the the story of Richard Feynman

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Some ladies like ah the world's on top of a turtle and he's like, oh well

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But what's underneath that and she's like it's on top of a bigger turtle and it's like oh what's underneath that?

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You know you do the thing and eventually she says the famous line. It's turtles all the way down. I

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Like this because this is it the inverse like oh it's turtles all the way up buddy

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What's on top of that more fucking turtles? Yeah, I mean like honestly the ultimate conclusion is is like Dustin

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Just uncovering evidence that he's Jewish or something. Yeah. I mean, it's either everybody or nobody right, you know

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Like either he reaches the point where he's like wait

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Genetically we're all Jewish and then it dies or he goes Jews aren't even real and then he dies

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I mean it more that like

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His co-host on this show has got to turn out to be part of the conspiracy eventually. Oh, yeah, you know like it's

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You'll never reach the end and

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any kind of

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meaningful information unless you kind of ask questions a little bit about how you got to the point where

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You become disillusioned. Mm-hmm, and I think yeah, I think that

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what I was feeling about watching these things is a reminder and a harkening back to

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The disappointment that I had when I first asked some of these questions about like fuck's going on with his Alex Jones guy

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sure, this is kind of the stuff that was available then and was around then and

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I

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Honestly feel like I don't know if it's much better

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Now I think it is a little bit

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There's there's a more robust conversation in non insane circles, and I think that's good. That's a positive

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But I

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also think that there's a danger and that is that I

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Don't think that these people

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Like a Dustin like Victor Hugo or whatever. Mm-hmm

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I don't think these people think Alex is necessary anymore. I think they would be fine if he went away. Yeah

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Twitter and

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the social media space

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a lot of these video sharing sites

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have become

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Such easy radicalization pipelines that like Alex isn't necessary. Yeah that time

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When people would need to dip their toe into

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Alex in order to get them acclimated to the point where they would accept

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Deeply anti-semitic shows and like explanations of the world. Yeah, I don't think that exists anymore

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Yeah, you can just go cut the middleman out and I think that that pretends a fairly scary

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thing yeah

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Alex is just conning people these guys want extermination. Yeah. Yeah, that is the danger when you con believers

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Is that eventually you have to deliver on something and everything they believe in is not good. No, it's not no

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That's why we get the Crusades. Yeah, I'm not really God's sure. I'm just a guy you put a hat on me

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Let's go kill the the Muslims. All right

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So I think that this was a bummer a little bit, but I don't know something to talk about. Yeah, it's fun

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It's fun to see the light carnival to your juggalos dark carnival, uh-huh

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So

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Do you know what a juggalo is?

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Is there a thing that they say that I should know if I did know what a juggalo is?

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It's kind of guy who put nuts in your soup. There we go

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God gotta get yeah, you know what not to the Somali Pirates, but you got to give it to the juggalo

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Yeah, you got to give it to the juggalos whoop whoop. So we'll be back with another episode

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But until then we have website indeed we do it's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm neo I'm Leo

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I'm DZX Clark. I am mysterious professor

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And now here comes the sex robots Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color my huge fan. I love your work. I love you