Transcript/1037: May 12, 2025

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Party ride minute

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Bra sewing

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knowledge fight

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I'm sick of them posing

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knowledge fight

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knowledge fight

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knowledge fight

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Dan and George. Knowledge Fight.

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.

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Blech.

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Need, I need money.

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.

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Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy.

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Stop it. Andy and, Andy and Kansas.

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Andy, Andy.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller. I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight dot com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes. I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today buddy?

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You go first.

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My bright spot is Expedition 33.

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Oh okay.

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This video game is amazing.

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Yeah, you were telling me a little before we started recording.

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Love it.

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You like the French?

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Ah man, it's just great.

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Yeah.

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And I do like the French angle to it. I think that's fun.

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The French angle.

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The French angle.

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That game is deeply French.

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It is deeply French.

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It is so fucking French.

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Yeah, which is fun.

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It's just like video games in my head from, because where we grew up in this world has been like, it is so heavily influenced by Japan.

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Sure.

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Especially RPGs.

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You know, like the JRPG is such a massive part of growing up that the language in and of itself is a whole thing.

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And then to just suddenly be hit with some French like, ooh, look at that guy's mustache.

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At times do you not think it's too French?

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Absolutely not.

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Okay.

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I mean nobody has yet gone, ha ha ha ha.

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No?

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So it is possible that I will get to him.

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I thought there was one character who just speaks in ha ha ha's.

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There was a guy.

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Have you reached a point in the game yet where you find an unlockable weapon that is a baguette?

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No, not yet.

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Okay, that would be too French.

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I assume that a baguette is coming.

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That's too French.

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Two days old.

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Two days old is the baguette time for murder.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Everybody knows that.

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Yeah, I'm glad you're enjoying that.

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I tried to play it and it wasn't my cup of tea or a cup of vin.

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Ah, nice.

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But yeah, I'm glad you're enjoying it.

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Yeah, that's great.

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What's your favorite character so far?

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Mayel is a world destroyer.

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Sure.

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She is, I've got, I think right now, early on, part of the struggle for me is that I've

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got this like three person combo set up.

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So it's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

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And then the fight's over.

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And Mayel is just at the end of that.

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She is the, she is the denouement.

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So I enjoy her immensely.

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Okay.

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Uh, yeah.

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Awesome.

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Did you, did you have fun with anybody?

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I had no strong feelings about anybody that I encountered, uh, except for they were fucking

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French.

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Gustave!

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You're like Gustave!

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Maybe fucking Lumiere or Gaston or some shit.

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Um, no, I thought it was a great game, but it just wasn't for me.

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I can't do those timing things.

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Like it's very, very hard for me.

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And I just can't get good at it.

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Totally get it.

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So I set it down.

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I may get back to it one day because it is gorgeous.

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It's beautiful.

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And the narrative of it is very gripping.

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Yeah.

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So like, I would like the story.

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I'd like to know more of the story.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's fantastic so far.

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Nice.

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What's your bright spot?

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Trebin.

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Um, my bright spot is Jordan.

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Uh, are we, you're usual suspects in me, but like you're verbal kinting.

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You're looking at the walls like, uh, Kobayashi!

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Where's Kobayashi, God damn it!

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Um, no.

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So my bright spot is not a bright spot.

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It's a, it is a negative spot.

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It is a boo spot.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Um, and that is, I went to the grocery store that we shan't name.

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No, no plugs.

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I was wearing the pinky ring.

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Sure.

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So this was a pinky ring experience.

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Okay.

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Um, and I think it was partially, I think the pinky ring played into it a little bit.

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Okay.

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Because I saw a, uh, a cheesecake, a mocha cheesecake, uh, for sale.

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And I had seen it before and I'd said no.

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Okay.

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And I was there, I was there this time with the pinky ring.

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With the pinky ring.

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So you believe that the pinky ring influenced you towards the cake?

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I think it might've given me a little bit of a devil may care attitude.

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Okay.

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And I bought the mocha cheesecake.

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Okay.

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And it was trash.

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I ask you this question.

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Do you think that over time, if we were to like really map out your behaviors, there

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would be a trend towards a riskier set of behaviors with pinky ring, as opposed to without.

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I wonder.

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Don't we all?

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I think, yes, I, I, I bet there is, but I also, I don't know how risky quantitatively

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a cheesecake is, you know?

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Listen, that's fair.

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I mean, it's a mocha cheesecake though.

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So you, you never know what you're going to get there.

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Yeah.

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I mean, depending on how we set the variables and everything, I think you would find that,

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but I bet it would be like a very incremental, tiny little bit of added risk.

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Yeah.

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No.

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But that's what happens when you're cool.

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I mean, yeah, absolutely.

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You get a cheesecake.

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Anyway, it sucked.

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It was a bad cheesecake.

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I didn't enjoy it.

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Boo.

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I like the idea that you were eating the cheesecake and then you took the ring off

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and then you were like, ah, I hate this cheesecake.

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I don't want to, I don't want to speak bad while I'm wearing the ring.

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As soon as I took the ring off, I realized it was a bad purchase.

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Bad purchase.

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I've made a mistake.

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But I guess it could still be a bright spot because I felt the freedom to buy this cheesecake.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I guess.

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Negative experiences are positive experiences over time.

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Sure.

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Makes sense.

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You learn the things you don't want.

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Exactly.

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Like more mocha cheesecake.

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Makes perfect sense.

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So Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.

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All right.

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We're going to be talking about May 12th, 2025.

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Alex was out of studio for Friday and then Sunday.

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And so now he's back on Monday.

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All right.

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And yeah, I think that he's a sad man.

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He's a sad, sad man.

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Sure.

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And we'll talk about it.

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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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That's a great idea.

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So first, Nick, you're a loser little tidbit baby.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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From Carrie.

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Phoenix, I love you more than anything in the whole wide monster hunter world.

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See you in startling city.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I removed an Info Wars bumper sticker off a utility box two hours south of the Arctic.

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Fuck you, Alex.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to I want my mom to know that I made something of myself and I am now

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a policy wonk.

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Correction, you're now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little kitty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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So I felt like this episode is a grim picture of Alex.

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Okay.

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I think it's a very like as much as everything about him sucks.

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Sure.

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Like the, a lot of the political beliefs and you know, all that.

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The fact that he's a huge old liar.

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Yeah.

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All that sucks.

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But man, this, this just felt weak.

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And I think you'll understand why as we get through it.

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It's just, you never want to live long enough to become this.

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If you're someone like Alex.

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So we start off with him covering the, uh, some news about China and tariffs and trade.

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Okay.

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Now the stock market's up what, 6% right now, but that's not the real indicator of the economy.

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That's what they just try to use to manipulate people.

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China completely capitulated and the corporate media is, oh my God, Trump backed off his

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tariffs.

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Trump totally surrendered.

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No, China did what Trump asked them to do eight years ago and tried to do.

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And even the Democrats passed trade policy and continued Trump's trade policy.

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But the Chinese in Switzerland told the treasury secretary, and he's on record now, we have

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the clip coming up.

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They said, listen, we already did the deal and you didn't enforce it.

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So now there's this 90 days to implement all the finer pieces of it, but it will go through

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because China is on the verge of total collapse.

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You are not going to see the corporate media tell you that you would think Trump is the

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biggest moron on earth.

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So there was a major breakthrough in the trade negotiations between the United States and

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China, but it's kind of silly to say that China capitulated.

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In the past months, Trump has imposed and stalled and then impose giant tariffs on Chinese

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imports into the United States.

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In response, China has put retaliatory tariffs in place and then has had the effect of basically

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creating an unofficial embargo between these two giant trading partners.

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It was very dumb and unnecessary.

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And then in April, China had added export restrictions on rare earth minerals, and they'd

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done a bunch of other adjustments to their relation to the United States, not necessarily

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just involving trade or tariffs.

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This agreement that they struck involved dropping those pointless tariffs that Trump had initiated

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and as part of the deal, China's going to drop all the other stuff that they were doing

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in response to those tariffs.

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We're essentially back where we started, but also clearly worse off.

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In terms of international relations, I think that this whole affair paints China as a much

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more reliable and trustworthy trading partner, and it also kind of reveals that they have

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a bit more leverage than Trump and Alex want to admit.

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They can clearly move the needle.

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No, it makes sense.

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Anyway, this agreement is just to lower the tariffs for 90 days, so we'll see what happens

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in the meantime and when that clock runs out.

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I would predict more chaos and stupidity.

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Yeah.

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But, you know.

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Yeah, there's a part of me that feels like we shouldn't be, nobody should be getting

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any updates on any of this because God knows what's happening.

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I don't think they know what's happening.

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I think us knowing anything only makes things more confusing.

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I think Alex having any bits of things to hang onto is bad.

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You know, like we should all just wait because fucking, I don't know what's going on.

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Yeah.

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And I think that Trump and his administration have such a lack of credibility that like

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them coming out and saying like, oh man, we worked out a great deal here.

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Makes me feel like, I don't think you did.

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Yeah, there's no way.

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It doesn't look like it.

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And this whole like, well, 90 days.

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That I don't like that as a media strategy.

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Yeah.

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Because I think that this has happened a bit where it's like 30 day pause on this stuff.

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And that just kicks the can down the road and people's attention will be gone by the

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time this, this, this time runs out.

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Yep.

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Oh, well.

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Yeah.

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That's the problem with getting the wrong kind of news.

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Would you say though that that is kind of the art of the deal?

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Ooh, I, let me, I'll just throw this out at you.

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Okay.

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Now I don't know what's going on.

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I'm not sure about negotiations and I'm not an economist, so I don't know what levers

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push what and make what happened.

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But I will say that as far as negotiations go in history, from what I understand, if

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you are in a weak position, you are probably going to have to give up more in the negotiations

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than you will receive.

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So you want to be in a stronger position within those negotiations.

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Now, perhaps putting all of your political capital on suddenly being an asshole might

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be a weak position in a trade negotiation.

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Yeah.

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Or it could be a way to artificially create the appearance of strength.

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Exactly.

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Which indicates weakness.

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In reality, when you're negotiating with China, you will find yourself in a weak position,

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but you look like you're the big guy with your big shoulders all up all over everywhere.

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It does.

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I do get that vibe, but it could be just the art of the deal.

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You know, I haven't read that book.

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Nope.

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So China has agreed to get rid of all of its non-monetary tariffs, all the little hidden

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ones.

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And this is a huge victory.

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And I explained Trump's policies.

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He's explained them.

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Kirk Elliott, great economist, explained it six months ago, long before Trump even got

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back in, that he comes out with a moderate tariff.

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If they don't agree, boom, it gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger

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and bigger and bigger, which is weaponization because they've been weaponized against us.

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And then when they back off, he comes back to what he first said.

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I mean, that's just simple art of the deal stuff.

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And he didn't invent that, by the way.

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I mean, it's like your kids.

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First time you tell them, don't do that.

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Next time you go, hey, I'm warning you.

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Third time, I'm going to whip your ass.

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And, you know, if you're 16 and keep not doing what they say, they just say, hey, get your

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ass out of the house.

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Go.

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So this is the guy who's like all about the sacredness of the family and how the left

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is trying to destroy the family unit.

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But he's also someone who believes that violent threats and kicking your kid out of the house

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in their sophomore year of high school is good parenting.

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Sure.

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Seems like an asshole.

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What Alex is describing as the art of the deal and also parenting is just bullying.

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This is a cornerstone of Alex and Trump's worldview, and it shows a little bit of the

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path of how you need to respond to it.

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This is this is just bullying.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the problem is it's not like they're doing it because it hasn't worked for them.

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You know, like it is it is so much like, of course, bullying works up until it doesn't.

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That's the risk reward strategy of bullying.

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Sooner or later, somebody is going to be like, no more bullying.

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And then it turns out you're a piece of shit.

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That's how it works.

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So Alex is going to get to the news.

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OK.

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But before he does, there's something that is a little bit more important.

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Oh.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Our forebears won.

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And the public going, my God, we can't have our new government of the people.

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I mean, we're the rebels.

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Oh, well, I mean, now George Washington's King George.

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We can't.

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Why?

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So apparently talking about what random people are saying on Twitter is more important than

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getting to the news.

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This dude is a serious problem with social media.

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It's taking over his life.

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I can understand how this criticism that is being waged against Alex kind of stings him

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a bit because it does directly indict his entire career.

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So this is a natural part of the challenge that his type of career presents.

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The relationship with power is always something that he needs to manage or else he is going

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to become seduced by it.

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Someone in his position isn't a watchdog about corruption or any of that other shit.

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But in order to play that role, he needs to have a healthy distance.

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And unfortunately, that means never really being associated with the actual power structure.

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It's important for him to champion idealistic losers like Ron Paul, who have no shot of

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actually getting elected because maintaining that support is easy.

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If only Ron Paul had got elected, we wouldn't be in this mess.

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That's a simple refrain that he can pull out any time a Democrat or Republican president

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does something bad.

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Maintaining this connection to power always allows you to be playing forward thinking

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and optimistic games.

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You're striving for a state of affairs that will never come to pass.

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But man, if they did, things would be great.

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When your guy fucks around and gets elected, you have to make excuses and justify why things

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aren't as good as they should be or you said they were going to be.

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You become someone playing a defensive and backward thinking game.

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And that's not the natural position for a media figure like Alex Jones to be embodying.

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The criticisms of Alex aren't about him being close to power, but it's a byproduct of how

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what he does doesn't work in this state of affairs.

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He's made a career off talking about how the media just lie to prop up the globalist

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leaders, but now anyone paying any attention can see that all he does is lie to prop up

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Trump.

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He's become the dinosaur media that he's used to attack, which probably sucks for him.

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And I can understand how he doesn't want to see that on Twitter, but it's unfortunate.

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It's the reality of where you are.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I think in his world, I think he like his job, it functions a lot like a parasite.

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You know, like as long as you're on the right host and you don't get too big or too small,

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you can just kind of have a nice run.

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You're doing great.

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I'm yeah, fucking I'm a big fan of Rand Paul.

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Nobody's ever going to take me too seriously.

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I'm never going to get big, but I can suck juices out of Rand Paul.

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If he gets too big, then you've got to be dealt with.

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People have to look at this gigantic tick and go, ah, we got to get this shit out of

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here.

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I think, I think that's part of it.

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And then I think it's also like, you know, the green lantern can't exist in red or whatever.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Weak against red.

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Yeah, it's yellow.

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I believe it's yellow.

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Whatever.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I saw that Ryan Reynolds movie.

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That's the most I know.

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Don't remember it.

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But like, it's he's the character is weak to this thing.

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And that thing is exactly what's happening now, which is having to tow the line and carry

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water for the power establishment.

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It's you should know better.

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Yeah.

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Just don't go in this proximity.

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It's it's I mean, if seduction weren't seductive, we wouldn't have a word for it.

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That's the problem.

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You know, of course, you got a week.

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He's right.

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He's weak to social media.

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Of course, he's weak to shit tons of money.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I think that if Alex were smart, yeah, he would agree to have Roger Stone on the show

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that first time, but only if he was tied to a mask.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Unable to respond in any of the ways that Hannibal Lecter mask.

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Yep.

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So anyway, Alex is like, hey, man, all you people on Twitter talking shit.

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You're wrong.

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I'm cool.

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I've never been anti government when the corporate media would call me that in the ADL.

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So I'm probably lost.

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Senator Democrats would say I'm pro constitutional government, limited government, the American

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system, and I'm anti occupied globalist government.

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And so I am pro government when it's limited and constitutional.

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In fact, I defend it because it's of the people.

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It is our country.

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And I am anti illegitimate government and will fight it with every ounce of energy and

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every drop of blood, sweat and tears clawing with my fingernails to the last breath in

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my lungs and the last beat of my heart against them.

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Yeah, I understand what Alex is trying to say, but this just doesn't work with the rest

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of his career.

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His career has been based on a very strong position of states rights over everything

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that wasn't specified as a power that the federal government was given in the Constitution.

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That's what so many of his positions have been theoretically based on over the years.

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What he's saying in that clip is basically I'm not opposed to all government.

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I'm just opposed to government I don't like, which is a meaningless statement.

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It's fine to believe this, and I don't actually have a problem with someone saying something

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like that because it's kind of a fine position.

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You would be saying the government itself is value neutral, and when it's used for good,

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it's good.

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And when it's not, it's bad.

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But that's not what Alex believes.

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He's intellectualized his feelings about government, and he's got a long-standing position

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that the federal government has to be weakened as much as possible, and that states have

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all the powers that aren't given to the federal government specifically in the Constitution.

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He's always been a critic of executive power, and the issue people have is that he's completely

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abandoned this essential piece of his philosophy.

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Anyone paying even a little bit of attention can tell that he's fundamentally altered his

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beliefs about civics, and it makes sense that he's sensitive about being called out about

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this.

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He was part of the popularization of the idea of democide, like government murdering people.

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He is opposed to government in a sense.

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Yeah.

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I guess the question for him is, this is frustrating for him because I do think that this is inaccurate

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criticism, because the accurate criticism would be to say, Alex has been lying to us

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this whole time, right?

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Not like Alex has changed his beliefs about blank, but Alex was lying to us from the jump.

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Yeah.

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If you're going to put intention into it, if you take intention out of it, it is your

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relationship with what the government's power is has changed.

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Yeah.

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If you just want to give it descriptively and give it the most benefit of the doubt.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because in a way, if you want to provide some depth to the idea of states' rights as an

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actual philosophy that you could say was real, then it would be less states' rights and more,

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here are all of the tools that we have at the constitution, propaganda-wise, reality-wise,

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courts-wise, all of this, to protect against a centralized form of government that I don't

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like.

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And then here are all the tools that the constitution and propaganda and all this stuff

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has to enforce a executive government that I do like.

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You know, like I am willing to lie, cheat, or steal to get power is the actual criticism

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that is Alex.

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You know, not like, you were cool, man.

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I was never cool.

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Not once.

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I was lying to you, you idiots.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a...

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It's a flawed criticism.

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And then even if you take it at its most generous, it's a misarticulated criticism.

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But these people are responding to something that is real.

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Exactly.

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And that is that Alex's tune has changed.

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And he doesn't like that.

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He doesn't like the idea that like, oh, yeah, in order to maintain the position that I have

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now and the relationship with power that I have now, I have to give up on what is my

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stated philosophy and what I pretended to believe all this time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I think that you're right that the real criticism is you were a liar.

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Right.

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You weren't, you didn't believe any of this shit.

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It was just what was convenient for you at the time because you knew that there was no

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chance of executive power being something that would go in your direction.

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Right, right.

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And you've internalized this criticism as being so bad, not because of the content of

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it, but because you've been lying to yourself as well.

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Probably.

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You've been trying to tell yourself you are also still the powerful truth teller while

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at the same time being the bootlicking toady.

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Yeah.

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And I think that the criticism and the fact that it's happening on Twitter, where he is

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obsessively scrolling around looking for dopamine hits.

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Right, right, right.

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I think the reason it's so palpable for him is that it does start to chip away at that

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facade of the character that he is.

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And that's threatening psychologically broadly.

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You know what's great about social media is that if you're somebody with a propensity

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for repetitive thoughts, you want to have those externalized and then shot at you through

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a gun.

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That's healthy.

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Yeah, that's the way you want social media to do things.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, people are a little too mean to Alex on social media.

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And I think he gets lost ranting about it.

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The Patriot is a scarce man.

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Hated, feared, scorned.

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But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it cost nothing

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to be a patriot.

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When his cause succeeds, when his cause succeeds, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him

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then because it costs nothing to be a patriot.

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And what did the timid and the Johnny-come-latelys do now that we're winning?

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Oh, he sold out to the government.

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He's with the system now.

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We have not taken the government back yet, but we've taken large pieces over it.

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We've turned the tide and humans are not God.

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And so we will always have problems.

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And I'm not promising some utopia here.

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What I'm saying is we're going back to the American system and we're going to have victory

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or we're going to have death.

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As Colonel Travis wrote in his final letter to my ancestors in Gonzales, with instructions

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to take care of his son.

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And that's what this is, ladies and gentlemen.

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This is about victory or this is about death.

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And we're going to get plenty of death if these people continue on, as you've seen with

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the poison shots, the GMO, the chemtrails, the fentanyl and all the autism and all this

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garbage because the wages of sin is death.

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Mixing metaphors there.

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So my answer to the tyrants is victory or death.

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Okay.

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Was that policy wise?

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Like progressive taxes?

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Victory or death with three lines under it.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Three lines.

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Total commitment.

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And when you commit to something worthy and good, it is not a weight.

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It is everything.

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It is your greatest strength.

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It becomes your soul.

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Keep in mind, this is a guy who's just mad about some things people said on Twitter.

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Like he's God's appointed soldier to kill the devil.

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But he also has to spend long chunks of time on air whining about how people don't respect

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him enough.

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Also, I was thinking about that.

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Like, I'm not promising a utopia thing.

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And that's sometimes not true.

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Alex does get into utopian visions periodically, but I'm going to pretend that he doesn't.

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Okay.

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If you just accept his premise that he doesn't promise the listeners a utopia, I still think

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that he sells his shit by promising utopia.

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Yeah.

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One version of utopia is the creation of an ideal state, but another is the avoidance

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of a totally evil one.

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Alex doesn't promise a positive vision of a utopia, but he does promise the audience

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that if he wins, they'll be spared from the dystopia that he spends so much time on air

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describing.

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In effect, he's created a hell for them to fear and offered a path to salvation from

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it.

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This is really no different than promising someone a utopia if you follow them.

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It's just playing on their fear instead of optimism for a better tomorrow.

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Sure.

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It's like, great.

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Yeah.

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You don't promise a utopia.

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You promise...

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Right.

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Avoiding hell.

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Ultimately, in both cases, all you're really promising is safety from pain.

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One is a positive vision and the other is an absence of a negative one.

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Yeah.

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Great.

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Yeah.

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Cool, man.

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Ultimately, fun to stumble upon them being fundamentally the same.

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That's an interesting thing.

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That's fun to get to.

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But ultimately, yeah, no.

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He doesn't understand anything.

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No.

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But, you know, Twitter gets to him.

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That sucks.

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Yeah, it does.

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That sucks.

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It does.

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I don't empathize or I don't feel for him, but of all the things that I would want to

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be tortured by, I really think social media, being addicted to it, and at the same time

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being...

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Okay.

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Being a person who talks to the TV because the TV keeps calling me a piece of shit.

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But also the TV keeps calling me a piece of shit.

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You know, like it's really calling me a piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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That's terrifying.

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It is.

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And the fact that Alex has worked himself into this situation where in order for this

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business model to continue working, he has to keep getting called a piece of shit by

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the TV.

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Yeah, it is a Twilight Zone episode.

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It is fucked up to exist in his world.

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Yeah.

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So we get back to the news that's not Twitter based and has to do with the prescription

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drugs that Trump has...

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He's just solved it.

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Oh, well, that's nice.

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Humanity has awoken.

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And it's getting more intense every day.

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The level of the awakening is getting stronger.

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So let's get into the big developments.

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You know, on average, the people of the United States pay triple

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what anybody else pays on average for drugs.

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Roughly double what people pay in Europe for the very same companies.

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And that's because everything's been set up to screw the American consumer.

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He just cut with an executive order, take a few months to phase in the cost of prescription

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drugs.

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So the reason that prescription drug prices are lower in other countries is because other

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countries have regulations in place that limit those prices.

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Sure.

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Places like England have nationalized health care that drives down the prices.

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And essentially, those countries don't allow pharmaceutical companies to set their own

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prices and run the game however they want.

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That seems crazy.

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On the flip side, the US doesn't have these types of protections for the consumers.

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And big pharma and insurance companies can fleece us from medications at huge markups.

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Trump signed an executive order that said that they were going to ask drug companies

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to voluntarily drop the prices of drugs, but there's no mechanism for enforcing anything,

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and this will do jack shit to solve the problem that Americans face with health care.

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Fun.

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According to NPR, the EO also quote, directs the US trade representative and department

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of commerce to take action against unreasonable and discriminatory policies that lower drug

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prices abroad.

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The reason that drug prices are lower abroad is because of government subsidized health

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care systems that set prices that drug companies are allowed to charge.

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It's pretty clear that Trump's goal here is to put pressure on these countries to raise

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their drug prices on the premise that if everyone else were paying more for these drugs, the

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Americans would pay less.

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Just from a purely law-based standpoint, Trump did nothing with this executive order, but

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it's clearly signaling a direction that involves US consumers paying the same amount for drugs.

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But it's trying to do that by forcing Europeans to pay more, which doesn't help anybody except

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for the drug companies.

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This is populism, baby.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we're trapped in accurate falsehood territory, where it's like, it doesn't matter

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what you're reading.

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It doesn't matter how reputable the news source is.

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They're reporting on something probably accurately, probably defensively, that also might not

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be true tomorrow.

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It might just not exist tomorrow.

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So they might've lied to you today, but they're accurate today, but tomorrow it might not

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exist.

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Well, I mean, these things that are like, hey, we're doing a 30-day pause on this, that

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makes that so much more likely.

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Right.

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What's true today might not be true tomorrow, next week, or-

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Exactly.

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You have accurately reported on something that does not exist in time, which is a wild

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circumstance.

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It's a weird state of affairs to exist in.

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Like, I understand that what you're telling me is true right now.

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Check tomorrow.

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I can't trust anything.

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You know?

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Do you mean Alex's description of the prescription drug executive order is true today?

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I mean, no, just like-

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Because it's not.

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No, no.

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I read a thing which was like, president signs executive order to drop prescription drug

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prices by 30 to 50% or something like that.

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Well, that's like on his, he assumes it'll drop it that much.

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You are telling me something accurate, and yet at the same time, in no way is any of

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that information true.

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Well, yeah, I think the articles that I've read maybe have had something along those

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lines in headlines, but then once you get into the body of the articles, they'll be

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like, this has nothing, this does nothing.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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So the accurate thing to say is Trump does nothing, right?

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Sure.

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But that's also not accurate.

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Because he did do something.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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But what's real?

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The body of the article lays out more of what's real, but unfortunately people's attention

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are drawn, you know, everyone's addicted to Twitter, right?

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Exactly.

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You got those headlines.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, this prescription drug thing is not a meaningful change that Trump is going for.

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And honestly, I think if you look at it from most angles, the only real party that stands

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to gain is drug companies.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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And the people who stand to lose the most are European consumers.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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Yep, that sounds right.

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So that's one story of a big Trump win.

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Great.

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And then we get back to the China tariffs thing.

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Another huge win.

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Okay.

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Breaking US and China agree to cut tariffs for 90 days.

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While they negotiate and get the founder points done.

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Major breakthrough.

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Here are the details of the China trade deal.

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And when you look at it, the tariffs President Trump announced against China on April 2nd

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are being cut by 24 percentage points for the temporary period while retaining the remaining

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ad valorem rate of 10% from that announcement, according to a joint statement.

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China agreed to the same stipulations, adding that will adopt all necessary administrative

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measures to suspend or remove the non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States

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since April 2nd.

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Announcement stated under the deal reciprocal trade for both countries would be reduced by 150%.

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The US will temporary lower its tariffs on Chinese goods from 145 to 30 and China will

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reduce its levels on American products from 125 to 10.

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Now, 145 to 30.

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225 to 10.

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Who's got a higher tariff?

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We do.

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Is 30 bigger than 10?

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Who just won that?

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Okay, but the whole team wins by 30 to 10.

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That is not how it works.

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So we're lowering to 30.

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They're lowering to 10.

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Who won that interaction?

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This is a good representation of why people would say that Alex is just working for the

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government now.

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He's dumbing this issue down to a point where it's meaningless in order to present it as

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a win for Trump because everything is a win for Trump.

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These numbers really don't tell the whole story.

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For most of Biden's presidency, the US had a 19% tariff on Chinese exports and China

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had a 21% tariff on ours.

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However, there was a disproportionate application of Trump's tariffs.

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For example, almost 67% of Chinese exports were subjected to US tariffs before, whereas

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only 58% of US exports to China were tariffed.

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What Trump has done is raise these tariffs to a ridiculously high rate and subject 100%

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of Chinese exports to that tariff.

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In response, China raised their ratio of tariffed exports from the US to 100% as well.

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So we were actually disproportionately affected by that retaliatory jump.

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This also fails to take into account that we have a sizable trade imbalance between

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our countries.

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We import way more stuff from China than China imports from us.

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So on a consumer level, the US is going to feel these impacts way more than Chinese citizens

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do.

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Alex is so invested in spending everything as a positive for Trump that it ends up creating

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surface level coverage that even some passive idiots in his audience, they're probably

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starting to sense that.

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30-10!

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He better hope that he gets some of that Elon money soon.

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Some of these people aren't going to follow him on to his next fake company.

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I just, I think the quality is slipped.

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The idea, listen, I don't know.

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I genuinely don't know.

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I have no idea.

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I can't, I can't fucking fathom the difficulty of understanding international finance agreements.

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No fucking clue.

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Sure.

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What I can do is tell you that if you say 30% tariff beats 10% tariff, obviously we

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win.

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You're a fucking idiot.

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It's very obvious that you're not accounting for a ton of variables.

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And you're willing to like, this is the story that I'm going to tell you, my audience.

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Yeah.

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And it just makes clear that you're not interested in information.

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You're not interested in the news.

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This is propaganda.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And here's the other thing, like, I genuinely don't know if anybody knows what long-term

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any of this is going to do.

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No.

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And I think a lot of the articles that you end up reading from experts reflect that.

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They say things like that.

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We have no idea what this is going to do.

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This could go any direction.

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Yes.

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Like maybe, no, and here's the thing.

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Maybe we could somehow whatever win quote unquote is, I don't know what that means,

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but over long-term, maybe something happens.

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But I don't even know what that would mean.

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Would that mean that we pay less for stuff and they pay more for stuff?

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Is that what winning is?

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I'm not sure, but I think that most of what I've read is, you know, there is a lot of

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that who knows who knows what the fuck is going to happen.

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But a lot of it is like, odds are it's not good.

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It's in a territory of not good for the consumer.

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Right.

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Like that's, but that's the question is like, what are we doing when we're talking about

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this?

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Am I going to pay less for stuff?

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Is that important or is somebody getting paid more to make it?

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Is some who's here's my problem.

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I don't think anybody is actually keeping the money, but rich people somehow at the

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end of all of this shit, I don't think anybody's getting paid more in China if they charge

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us more here.

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Right.

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I think your instincts might be onto something.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has a big show, big show lined up, you know, all of these great Trump wins.

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But you know, top FBI whistleblower, Kyle Serafin to cover the waterfront in studio

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the third and fourth hour today.

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He's already here with all these documents, articles, clips, info.

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We're going to cover dozens of key topics with him.

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And remember, he broke here months ago, the 14 terabytes of Epstein raping kids and horrible

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stuff.

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And now that's all over the news last week.

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So you'll have more coming up in his review of so far the administration and what's going

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on and someone's gonna be critical, but that's, that's good to get those perspectives coming

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up in the third and fourth hour.

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Deep dive today, we should also open the phones up some in the second hour when he's on with

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us in the fourth hour, second hour of the interview to ask your questions.

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I'm sure you'll bring up some better topics.

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You'll always do.

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I'm serious when I say that, not patronizing you when I say that.

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That's why I love taking calls with great guests because you bring up angles I wouldn't

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think of.

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I love that uncensored people power of populism.

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All right.

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I want to get into the so-called trade deal.

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It's a lot bigger than that.

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The prescription drug executive order and more that I'm gonna get into all the other

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news here.

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And there's a lot of it and it's important.

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But today is the last day at the Alex Jones store.com.

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When you get two bottles of ultramethylene blue already discounted, you get the third

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bottle free.

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That's an amazing deal.

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Whoa, that deal is crazy.

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Yeah, that deal is literally crazy.

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At those prices, I can't afford not to buy it.

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Right.

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Kyle Serafin is the guy Alex doesn't have on, this whistleblower.

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He worked for the FBI until 2022 when he was suspended indefinitely for refusing to get

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vaccinated.

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At which point he became a right-wing media celebrity by spreading J6 conspiracies and

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all this other shit.

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Yeah.

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He's cool.

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Okay.

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Here's the...

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I'm against him.

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Bad guy.

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All that stuff.

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But if I'm working for the FBI and I'm not seeing anybody else take the obvious job position

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of former FBI guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, I'm thinking about it.

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It's gotta be one better than working for the FBI.

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Yeah.

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There's more money in it.

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Nature abhors a vacuum.

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Absolutely.

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And someone is going to fill that slot.

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Somebody was going to do it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Whoever can get a hold of James O'Keefe the quickest has a new career.

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I genuinely think if I'm an FBI agent, I'm going to my boss like, I'm going to want to

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raise, otherwise I have this opportunity to lie about you for money.

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It's somewhere between blackmail and job negotiation.

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Exactly.

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It's somewhere in there.

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Yeah.

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But the intelligence services, there's some corrupt dealings.

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Yeah.

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Maybe that'd be a good way to do it.

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Yeah.

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So that might be a little bit of blackmail.

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Sure.

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But what is blackmail, but just sophisticated negotiation?

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I think that's a good point.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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That's expanded negotiations.

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Yeah.

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So Alex discusses that a little bit here.

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Great.

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Let's get back into Trump and this big victory with China, big victory with India.

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The list goes on and on.

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I mean, it's over a hundred countries now that have signed deals or in the process of

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signing deals.

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India was the big one.

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UK last week.

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And they're doing everything Trump wants because it's all one sided.

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And now Carney's having to say, okay, he's going to work with Trump, but you can't take

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over Canada.

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See, he's like, I want your country.

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Or can you?

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Fifty-first state, you'll be the governor.

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He's like, well, you can't do that, but we'll do everything else you said.

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Whereas he had all that other rhetoric before that Trump's a tyrant.

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The Americans want to steal our country.

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Trump asked for way, way, way, way, way more than he knows he's going to get.

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Show that when they do everything else he really wanted.

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Well, they feel like they did okay.

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That is a basic tactic of negotiation.

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So we're going from not having any negotiations and being totally sold out by the globalist

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middleman to the complete opposite, an incredible negotiator with an incredible economic team.

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I mean, what Alex is describing is basically a stick up.

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Like that's not a negotiation.

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No, that's we're going to take over your country.

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All right, fine.

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We can do some trade.

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Yep.

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Aren't like he that's a shakedown.

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By hook or by crook, we will have your things or you could negotiate.

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You choose what a masterful negotiator.

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What a bully.

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He's a bully.

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It is a, I mean, it's a longterm strategy that's always worked out.

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I can think of no massive resentment that could be built up over time.

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You know, it makes perfect sense to me.

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Yeah.

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I got a gun pointed at you and now I think that we're going to, you know,

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you're going to sell me some stuff.

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Okay.

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You're gonna sell me some stuff for the price that I think is pretty ridiculous,

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but I suggested at first, which you balked at until I had this gun in your face.

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It seems strange that the gun is involved.

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Yeah.

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Well, Hey, I have it.

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Now that I'm hearing your actual pitch, it feels very important to your pitch.

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In fact, well, you know, I think that you'll see my original terms as quite

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reasonable compared to this gun.

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That gun does make things different.

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Cool.

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The art of the deal.

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Negotiation master.

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Yeah.

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That's good stuff.

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What a Dick.

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When you think about it, guns do make negotiations easier.

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I don't know.

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I don't know if better or more longer lasting.

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Or seriously suggesting I'm going to take over your country.

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You could become a governor instead of the president prime minister.

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I feel like this is actually, here's what I'm doing.

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All right.

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If I'm Canada, I'm going, yeah, take us over.

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We'll become a state.

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How many fucking electoral college votes are we going to toss into your bullshit?

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Y'all don't, you're not even ready for Canada to be a state.

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Don't even think about that shit.

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Cause they could take over, man.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'm, I'm looking at a map.

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It's big.

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We're we're on a 50 50.

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Oh, Democrat Republican.

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Now we got to throw in Canadian in there.

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Anything could happen.

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Also, it's really funny that it would be conceivably one state.

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Yeah.

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I mean, right.

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Are we doing provinces or are we just Canada?

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51st state.

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Yeah.

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Twice the size of all other states combined.

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Yeah.

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It's it's it's it's it's it's this is negotiation.

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It's it's simple.

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I find this to be fucking stupid.

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And the idea of Alex suggest like acting like this is, is counter to what he's supposed to be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But when I told you the beginning, this episode is sad.

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Yeah.

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It's because of this.

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This next clip is, I feel like it's a new low.

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Oh.

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Boeing can't even build in a decade a new Air Force One.

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And so Trump gets given one and they go, oh, it's a bribe.

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No, it's a bribe if it's not declared.

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And you could say, oh, well, the point is, is that that of course, Boeing can make a jumbo

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jet for somebody else.

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But when they know it's a government contract, just like these fighter jets, they keep milking

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it and scamming it.

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And what they've already they're gonna be like eight billion for Trump negotiated it.

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Six, seven years ago, down to one point four billion, and they can't even deliver one.

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Alex's numbers are a little off, but this is really funny.

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The idea that Alex Jones, the champion against corruption, is having to bend over backwards

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to justify Trump being personally given a jumbo jet worth four hundred million dollars by

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Qatar.

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This is so comically corrupt that Alex should really just ignore it.

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Like, I don't believe that, like, you know, people talk about Illuminati humiliation rituals.

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I don't believe in any of that stuff.

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But this has the feeling of a public humiliation ritual.

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Yeah.

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Alex having to go out on air and defend Trump getting a plane from Qatar.

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Yeah.

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So the thing is, as laid out by Politico, this isn't a gift to the U.S. government.

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It's a luxury plane that's a gift to Trump and an expense to the taxpayers.

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From their article, quote, a private contractor would have to rip it apart and turn the jet

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into a flying White House for the president with secure communications and classified

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upgrades, according to former Air Force officials and lawmakers, an expensive and complicated

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prospect prospect that could cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

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So that's what Alex is defending.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, beyond beyond any other conversation, which it is absolutely fucked up.

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But even then, he can't take it because if I'm Qatar and I'm giving you personally a

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400 million dollar jet, I am loading that jet with all kinds of spying, spy shit that's

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ever been spied on for spies.

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You might.

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And that's part of the giant expense of if you were to take this, you'd have to we have

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to hire somebody to unspy this shit.

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Yes.

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And then we don't have a plane.

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We have to put the whole thing back together again.

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Yeah.

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And then like every plane that you would have in your fleet, it requires upkeep.

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And like one of the I think it was that same Politico article quoted someone is like, you

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might want to ask yourself why Qatar's fine getting rid of this.

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Absolutely.

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Very expensive to maintain this giant luxury plane.

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If they're giving a plane like this, then you have to blow it up.

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That's the only thing that makes sense for everybody involved.

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They can't have it.

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You can't have it.

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Nobody can have it.

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If we take real world things out of it and put those to the side and just look at this

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as an Alex moment.

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Yeah.

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This is pathetic.

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Yeah.

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If you have the president of the United States being personally gifted a plane by a foreign

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government and your take on it is it's cool.

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It's not a bribe if you declare it.

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If you have to say it's not a bribe.

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If you are talking about a bribe.

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I mean, even if it's not, it's just a shady as shit.

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Like I don't know that if I don't know there's a quid pro quo that's specific out of it.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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It's not what you'd want.

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A general quid pro quoity to it.

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That is going to be an issue sooner or later.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Alex lies a bit about this whole plane business because he's a piece of shit.

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Ridiculous.

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There'll be like 8 million for it.

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Trump negotiated it six, seven years ago down to 1.4 billion and they can't even deliver

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one.

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And so a Gulf state says here we're donating to the US government.

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That's how ridiculous this has gotten.

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And then they call that a bribe.

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Yes.

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It is a bribe.

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It's like Elon Musk donating star links to the air traffic control systems when they

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go down or donating them during the fires and the palisades or donating them during

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the hurricane.

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So Qatar did not offer to donate the plane to the US government.

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It's a gift to Trump.

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And he's explicitly said that he would donate the plane to his presidential library after

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his term ended.

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This is a gift for a person, not the government.

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And Alex is directly lying about that to cover up Trump's brazen corruption.

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Also, Elon isn't just donating star link terminals because he's a great person and he wants everyone

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to be online.

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It's part of a business strategy where companies try to circumvent the government contractor

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competition by offering their product for free.

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By insinuating yourself this way, you can provide a service that ends up becoming essential

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to the point where your ability to remove that service gives you outsized influence

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and the ability to demand a lot of money.

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That'd be windows.

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This is what Elon is doing.

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He's provided star link terminals in places that need them so it becomes more costly to

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try and go with another vendor than just continue working with him.

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He's the proverbial drug dealer who gives you that first hit for free just out of the

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goodness of his heart.

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It's crazy how all of the government computers were given Microsoft Windows early on for

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free and now suddenly it costs a lot of money and they can't not use it.

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Yeah.

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It's crazy how that works.

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There was an article in ProPublica that was discussing how Elon's strategy and Microsoft

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are like, it's very clear.

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It's the smartest thing to do.

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Yeah.

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And we saw this even play out with the war in Ukraine.

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When the war broke out, Musk donated 20,000 star link units to the country to provide

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networking and communications that were based in satellites so they would still work despite

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Russia taking out major pieces of Ukrainian infrastructure.

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Then in November 2022, Musk said that it was too expensive for him to continue offering

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these units, telling the Pentagon that they would need to pay for it, saying it would

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cost $120 million to finish out that year and $400 million for the next year.

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Musk essentially put the government in a position where they would need to pay him a shitload

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of money to continue enjoying the gift he supposedly gave them, or they would need to

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come up with a replacement satellite communication system or leave Ukraine in the dark.

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Naturally, in 2023, the Pentagon announced that they had awarded Musk and SpaceX a contract

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to provide the star link service in Ukraine.

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This isn't a gift or a donation.

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It's a business model that is only a little bit different from extortion.

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Yeah.

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Musk is far from the only person who engages in these kinds of business practices like

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we discussed with Microsoft.

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Yeah.

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But it comes off as very pathetic for Alex to get on air and have to pretend that he

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doesn't understand this dynamic.

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Like how fucking stupid do you have to be to try and pretend like, oh, he's such a

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benevolent guy giving out these stars.

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No.

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Yeah.

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It's encroachment.

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It's a business strategy.

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And when your personal job is going to end before the consequences of a deal like this

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are going to fully mature, what do you really care at the end of the day?

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Not least of which, because at the end of your term, you'll probably get a job with

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the people who fleeced the people you were representing.

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You know?

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Well, but this time the term doesn't end.

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Yeah, right.

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So that's great.

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Yeah.

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Get rid of the revolving door by having a...

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Permanent dictator.

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Let's just do dictator.

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Let's come on.

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Let's see where I'm done with it.

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Yeah.

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Let's get out of here.

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We've been dipping our toes in for too long.

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Yeah.

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Come on, everybody.

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Move on.

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Wrap it up.

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So we talk here a little bit more about the major, major breakthrough on prescription

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drugs.

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Let's get in to what he did with the executive order on prescription drugs that they've been

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talking about for decades.

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Why do we pay more?

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Why do we pay more?

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Because we have a political establishment, both Republican and Democrat, that

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got together and screwed the people.

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And then the drugs we get and that they push are always the newest dangerous ones that

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are the highest cost because they make the most money off of it and it fits their agenda

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to kill us, to depopulate us.

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So here's Trump signing that executive order.

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But starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize the health care of foreign

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countries, which is what we were doing.

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We're subsidizing others' health care.

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Countries where they paid a small fraction of what for the same drug that what we pay

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many, many times more for and will no longer tolerate profiteering and price gouging from

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Big Pharma.

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But again, it was really the countries that forced Big Pharma to do things that, frankly,

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I'm not sure they really felt comfortable doing, but they've gotten away with it.

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These countries, European Union has been brutal, brutal.

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To be clear, nothing that Trump is doing with that executive order will have any effect

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on U.S. consumer prices for prescription drugs.

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If you listen to what he's saying, he's complaining that other countries have, you know, they've

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set prices that drug companies can't charge more than and that's what's unfair.

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In the fantasy that he has, there's a set amount that these drug companies need to make,

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let's say $100 billion a year.

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They need to make this amount in order to keep making new drugs and curing things.

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So it's really important that they make that much.

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Europe has set a law in place that these companies can only make $20 billion from their countries.

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So in order to make the amount they need, they charge the U.S. consumers $80 billion

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for subsidizing their drugs.

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Makes perfect sense to me.

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Trump is trying to attack-

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30 is bigger than 10!

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Sure.

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Trump is trying to attack the price controls that keep European drug prices low and pretending

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that this will drop prices here.

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Like if the European consumers have to pay $40 billion, all of a sudden our prices will

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drop because the drug companies only have to make $60 billion from us.

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Yeah.

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It's almost like profit motives and capitalism aren't factors in this imaginary world.

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Wild.

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In reality, Trump wants to pressure these other countries to drop their price controls

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so that drug companies can charge them more, which won't make a difference with U.S.

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consumer drug prices.

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Yeah.

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The answer to this is sort of the opposite of what Trump is doing.

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I feel like we should all know this.

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At like this is, it's 2025.

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We should all be here now.

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If there is something that is good for you in regards to healthcare, then you will see

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healthcare CEOs on TV all the time telling you about how bad it is for you that this

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happens.

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There is often going to be that dynamic.

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Right?

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It's like, I've never not seen it be the case where somebody's caught on TV and been like,

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actually this thing that's going to save you money, that's terrible for you!

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You want us to have the profits, otherwise we'll steal your legs!

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That's what we do!

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We steal legs!

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Yeah, I mean, if you asked somebody who was, like, I don't know, running a check cashing

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place or something like that, whether or not they provide a service, they'd probably say

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yes.

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Oh, of course!

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They were the best service.

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And those 50% loans are just great.

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Yeah.

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So I think that Trump is in a little bit of hot water because of the whole plane thing.

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Sure.

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Man, that plane thing is fucked up.

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It's pretty crazy.

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It's fucking crazy.

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And guess what?

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We'll forget about it in a week.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good work on you.

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Some of his base has turned against, eh, not turned against him, but they're critical.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Other than about this.

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Yeah.

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This means that unfortunately Drudge is now Democrats.

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Oh, that'll happen.

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Here's the corporate headlines out of Drudge, I mean, Democratic Party.

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Qatar gives jet to Trump.

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Palace in the sky.

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Is it a crime?

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And no, the law is being followed.

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He's been trying to get a new aircraft for the last eight years.

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They admit the old one is, there's two of them, is falling apart.

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Air Force One, the main one in the backup.

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And so Qatar goes, okay, we'll donate this to the US government.

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And they're like, oh my God, it's criminal.

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They're paying him off, on and on.

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Look, I got no interest in Drudge, but I feel like I would be pissed if I were him.

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Alex, you have no career without me.

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I'm the fucking corporate news and the Democrats, you piece of shit.

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You ungrateful sack of garbage.

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How dare you?

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You know, everyone is corporate Democrats once they're saying the thing you don't want them to.

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I mean, it's, yeah.

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If you think about those, I don't know if you, there was a lot more of them.

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I think in the like 60s, 70s and 80s.

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But those, the Swami guru kind of things where there would be the guru guy.

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And then he would have a lot of people who got way into him too fast.

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And then slowly the stories would start being like,

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look at all these people leaving in droves because of the real things this guy is doing.

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But there was always the core group left.

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There was always the core group that like, no matter what you told them,

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they would look you in the eyes and go, we're pot committed.

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Sure.

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This guy's God, that kind of thing.

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Do you think it's fun to be a monster who exploits those people?

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Like, do you think Trump is watching Alex going like, can you believe this shit?

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Like he's got popcorn.

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Like, I wonder what else I can get this monster to agree with.

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No, I think, I think it's probably stressful.

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I think so.

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I think it's probably a man.

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If I lose these, these folks, I got nothing.

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I think, I think maybe, I don't know.

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Right.

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It's a glass half full, half empty kind of thing.

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I mean, isn't that, isn't that the thing that keeps us from ever even considering it though,

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is that it would be to us, it would be a horrifying thing to do to people.

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Right.

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So if you are doing it, you probably are fine with it.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I guess it would be hard to judge the mental state of someone who's already monstrous.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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No, it's also really weird to think about how like Alex is that inner core diehard group.

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He is, he is the cult member who's like more, he's going to go down with the ship.

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Yep.

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I think that he thinks that he's not though.

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Yep.

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I think, I think he is really deluded about where he is in terms of, like, if you are saying

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Trump is cool to have a Qatar give him a plane and that Drudge is Democratic party,

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corporate media, because there's criticism of this flagrant corruption.

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Yep.

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You are so deep.

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Yeah.

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You are, you were never getting up for air.

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Too far gone.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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And I think that, um, there's some other figures in this world that have a little bit of a more

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interesting maneuverability.

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Yeah.

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And one of them is unfortunately Laura Loomer.

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God damn it.

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Laura Loomer slams Trump over a guitar jet, calls it staying on the presidency.

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I'm so disappointed.

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You know, I like Laura a lot, but she just doesn't sometimes get it.

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And it just goes on and on and on.

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So on our last episode, Alex was bragging about how Laura Loomer was critical of Trump's

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choice for surgeon general, which made Trump change his mind.

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She was the shining example of constructive criticism.

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The part of the base that was holding Trump's feet to the fire.

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But now she doesn't get it.

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Alex's world has a Loomer problem because they've empowered her a little bit too much

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and she isn't going to play ball.

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She's a chaotic influence who isn't playing the same games as all of these people around

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her.

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All these assholes pretend that they were like Jewish people in the lead up to World

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War II and they got kicked off Twitter.

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They whined about how they were being put into digital ghettos because that helped them

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inflame the feelings of persecution that animate the audience, which then helps them sell

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supplements.

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Meanwhile, Laura Loomer put a Star of David on and handcuffed herself to the door of Twitter's

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headquarters.

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It was embarrassing and she forgot to handcuff herself to both doors so people just walked

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around her.

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But I think that's representative of the different game that she's playing.

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She sucks and is wrong about almost everything, but her actions often have the subtext of

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okay, what if we mean it?

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Whereas all of these other figures in Alex's orbit, they know that what they're saying

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is bullshit and they don't take any of it too seriously.

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Yeah.

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So now you have things like Trump saying that he's going to accept an obviously illegal

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gift from the government of Qatar and Loomer is rightly responding, hey, isn't this the

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opposite of what we're supposed to pretend to support?

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Alex's response is exactly right.

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Sometimes she doesn't get it.

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Sometimes she doesn't get that their media space is weaponized propaganda and you aren't

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supposed to criticize your side for not following the rules you demand the other side follow.

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Yeah.

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She and Nick Fuentes are good examples of people that the right wing media should have

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done everything they could to sideline a long time ago.

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They were too circumstantially profitable for the right wing media to use and they've

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gotten out of hand.

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They have too much status and have built organic audiences of their own that aren't going

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to go away and they're not going to play ball.

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It is comforting when you're anti conspiracy theory-ing to know that confidently

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no one in charge of anything has a legitimate long-term plan for anything.

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If you look back, it's like you guys, it's fairly obvious that this was going to happen,

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but you wanted it too bad because you're there.

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Like there's so much of that Alex addiction of like, oh yeah, but he's useful now.

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He's useful now.

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We got to use them now.

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We got to use everything now.

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You know?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's just, it's just that.

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The immediacy of the need.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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And I was, I was like thinking over a lot of the things that Laura Loomer has done in,

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in her career.

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And a lot of it is like the actions of someone taking seriously something everybody else

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knows not to take seriously.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like she and Jacob Wall and Ali Alexander, they went to try and prove that Ilhan Omar

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was married to her brother.

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It's like, this is something we're just smearing.

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This is, this is something for Twitter and shit.

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You don't need to go do an investigation into this.

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You don't need to handcuff yourself to the door at Twitter.

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Yeah.

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They come on.

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The irony of what you're doing is you're proving why what we're doing works and what you're

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doing doesn't work.

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Yeah.

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Because it's not real.

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And unfortunately if you do too much of that, it is going to ruin our ability to do our

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thing.

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Cause it reveals that none of what we say is real.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So they, they should do something about her at some point because otherwise it's gonna,

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it's gonna blow up in their face.

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Yeah.

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Just as a comparison point for somebody who actually believes something versus you, you

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know, like you don't want the actually believe something person to exist if you don't want

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to actually believe it.

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And I, I want to be totally clear.

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I don't want to go out on a limb and say that Laura Loomer actually believes any of the

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stuff.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Her actions follow the path more frequently of what if we believe in this.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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How would we behave if we weren't just all talking shit?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's not about belief.

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It's about comparison between the two.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we have one last clip here and it's cause Alex interviews that FBI whistleblower he's

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got and I just decided to turn it off cause he tells this story.

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Okay.

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And let's see, let's see how you feel about this story.

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All right, all right.

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Let me give the bottom line up front cause that's the way I was taught to brief people.

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If people look here on the overhead cam, you probably can see it.

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This is the, this is the notice I just got from Google.

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So this is brand new.

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This came in on, on Saturday evening at 10 23.

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By the way, it's funny.

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I sent you one of those on Friday that my wife got, uh, for your opinion.

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And the next day you get one.

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Yeah, no, thanks for that.

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I appreciate it.

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So it's, it's an identical notice.

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So this is something that happens.

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So I used to be on the other end of this and that's what's, I guess the weirdest part for

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me.

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So I used to be able to serve process to people like Google or meta or your cell phone companies

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and so on.

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And if we wanted them to preserve data and then we wanted to serve either a subpoena or

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what's called a national security letter, and that's a secret subpoena or a search warrant

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for content or information, then we would do so.

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And then eventually whenever we let the seal lapse, cause we would go, Hey, don't let the

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user be notified.

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I don't want Alex Jones to know that I'm in his emails.

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So we would ask that to be under seal for a period of time.

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At some point in time, either the case would conclude or we would bring out an indictment.

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So you knew about it cause you've been arrested.

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Then we would go out and we would let this thing lapse and you would get this email notifying

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you.

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So I'm just gonna read it.

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It says, this is from Google.

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It's on their official letterhead.

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It says, uh, hello, Google received and responded to a legal process issued by the federal Bureau

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of investigation.

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My ex-girlfriend, my former employer compelling the release related to your Google account,

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a court order previously prohibited.

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That's the thing I just mentioned.

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Google from notifying you of the legal process.

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We're now permitted to disclose the receipt of legal process.

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The agency reference number is as follows.

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And there's a number there, which is a grand jury subpoena says, uh, J G J.

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So that's what we assume for that one.

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There's some kind of a subpoena.

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There's another piece in there referenced 2023, our number.

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I don't know exactly what that means, but the odds are that this was served in 2023.

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So the chaos that I feel when I look at this is that my former agency, and I made a note

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about what the Stasi was.

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So a lot of people probably are familiar with that term, but it gets thrown around and bandied

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around an awful lot.

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They were the East German secret police and they operated for 40 years and they were responsible

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for three things in particular, domestic surveillance.

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That's what the FBI does intelligence gathering.

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That's a post nine 11 FBI thing in a very big way and suppressing dissent, which has

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been basically a post Obama era FBI mandate going after dissent.

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So we saw this stuff with the Twitter files.

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We saw this stuff happening under Trump's first administration, where he was removed

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from social media.

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Suppressing dissent means we now decide whether or not you're allowed to have all the information

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you want.

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And we're going to go after people that have contrary viewpoints.

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And that's what they've been doing to me, which you saw.

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We have that document from the Trump administration under Obama, national security investigation

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forever.

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Right.

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And so, of course, this is unrelated.

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I'm sure that I think it's from my bankruptcy.

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They wanted to see what was going on with my wife.

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I had something, of course, I didn't.

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And I'll do stuff like that.

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And B, I'm not stupid.

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And so obviously they probably had a grand jury.

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I disagree on both of those.

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And then they didn't find it.

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So it's been closed probably.

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Right.

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In this case.

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Yeah.

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And I'm sure in the same thing for your wife's case.

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But here's the problem.

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You saw my wife's notice.

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So that would be closed.

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What did you get from it?

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Same sort of thing as this.

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So this is the first thing that this guy is bringing to the table.

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Is this email.

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And how does that story grab you?

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Um, I mean, if a former FBI agent is calling the FBI,

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the Stasi, I feel divorced somewhere.

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We did call them his ex girlfriend.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I hear these details of the story where Alex's wife got this email,

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and then he sent it on to this guy, and then he got an email.

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I kind of think that maybe it's a phishing email.

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I think that maybe, you know, it's possible.

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Yeah.

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So I looked into it, and the sort of text of his email,

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tried to find if this was a legitimate thing that Google sends out.

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And it turns out it is a form email that they do send out.

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But there's a decent chance that scammers have also copied it.

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So I don't know if this is an authentic email or not.

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But generally speaking, what this email is indicative of is that your phone was near a crime.

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And your phone got caught up in the geolocation data that the police were running when they were

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trying to track the person's phone who committed this crime.

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So generally, when you get an email like this,

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it is indicative not of they've been spying on your email and everything that you've...

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Whatever he's describing, like there's a grand jury, and they're targeting you.

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No, it's that your phone got caught up in a dragnet.

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Yeah.

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Typically.

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Right, right, right, right.

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I'm not going to say that it's impossible that it can't be sent out in other cases.

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Sure.

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But if they're trying to weaponize the state against you,

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you're not going to get a notification after what you've done.

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We tried to find some dirt on you and we fucked up.

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It's a strangely...

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Okay.

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Its existence belies your lie about it.

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The email, if it's the...

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The Stasi didn't email you.

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They didn't go around your house and be like, hey, surprise,

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we tried to secret police you, but you're so good.

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But because they're using Google, Google has to do it.

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No, it don't.

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What?

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Why?

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Google's also part of your conspiracy about people who are in the globalist,

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who don't give a shit about laws.

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Yeah, that is a difficult point to get around.

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But my gut tells me that I think maybe it was not...

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I think it's a spam.

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Yeah.

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I think that that's what's going on here.

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The fact that Alex asked about it, his wife got one, sent it to him,

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and then he got one.

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That kind of leads me to believe that maybe it's a phishing thing.

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My initial vibe was he just made it up.

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Like if Alex sends you this, there's kind of a bit of like, hey,

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we need...

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This is what we're going to talk about.

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And what's a great way to throw that in there.

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I also got one.

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Your wife and I are close.

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You and I are closer now.

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This is all...

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We're all part of the same conspiracy kind of thing.

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That's very possible.

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I was trying to come up with an explanation that involved all of the basic facts being true.

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Now, assuming that they aren't, that is a good explanation.

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I also thought of another explanation.

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Is that like, maybe, I don't know, were they at the same place?

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Like if Alex, his wife, and this guy went to dinner or something,

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then it's entirely possible.

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Alex didn't have his phone on him or something.

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Both of their phones were near where a crime was committed.

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They would get the same geolocation alert.

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I would go so far as to say, Alex himself is a crime.

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And if you were around Alex, there's a fair chance that somebody might be looking at your phone.

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Yeah, that's possible.

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The explanation provided of the government was trying to

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investigate this guy and Alex's wife.

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It's nonsense.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no.

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So if this is the level of shit we're going with,

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then I think that this is a guy who, like you were describing,

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rightly saw an opportunity for a career change.

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Yeah.

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As opposed to, is someone I'm going to take seriously as an FBI whistleblower?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So fuck him.

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Yeah, I mean, probably had to drive more than he wanted.

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I bet his commute was long and he was just like, man.

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He can work from home as a bullshitter.

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Absolutely.

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I can do whatever I want from a phone.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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And no standards.

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None.

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None.

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No bosses.

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Yeah.

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So shit's sad around Info Wars headquarters.

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I think Alex is a real, just sad image.

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You gotta have a line, man.

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Yeah.

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You gotta have a line.

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Defending this plane thing is...

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You just gotta ignore it.

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There's no way for him to take on this story and not come off like just a worm.

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Yeah.

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You can't cling.

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If you're an Alex figure, that's gotta be the hardest rule of all.

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You can't cling.

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If it feels like you're losing your grip, you have to let go.

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Because if you try and cling, you're just going to look pathetic.

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Yeah.

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And I think I was trying to workshop, like, what could you do?

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And I think the only way you can even talk about this story if you're Alex and come off

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with any dignity is be like, I don't know all the details of this.

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Doesn't look good.

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Moving on.

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Like, that's about all you can do is feign ignorance and be like, I don't know.

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And then it'll blow over.

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Yeah.

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You don't have to touch every live ball.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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There's so much going on.

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You could probably gamble on enough people, like, just not even seeing it because it only

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happened for a day.

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Yeah.

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Well, the only problem is that Drudge and Loomer are being critical of it.

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So maybe they're forcing the issue in his head a little bit, but he still could ignore

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it.

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Yeah.

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I mean, at the end of the day, you're fighting ghosts.

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You're fighting.

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They're even Drudge and Loomer are fighting their own ghosts.

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You're acting like they're your ghosts.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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They're all shadow boxing.

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Yep.

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It's Pac-Man shit.

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Yeah, it is crazy.

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So we'll check in, see how low he can go.

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But until then, we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's KnowledgeVite.com.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZXClark.

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I am the mysterious professor.

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Woo!

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Yeah!

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Woo!

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Yeah!

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Woo!

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.