Transcript/1035: May 8, 2025

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledge Fight!

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Stop it.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding us.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time calling in with huge fans.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Zeline, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today is, so I've lived in this apartment building for a year or two-ish.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Somewhere in there.

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And I get emails from the condo association, and it's always boring.

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They're always stupid things like, I don't know, the elevator's out or something.

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Yeah, reasonable stuff.

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House stuff.

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I finally got one that I had to open.

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Oh.

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And it was an urgent message to not throw things off the balcony.

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That's fair.

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And I wanted more information.

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Absolutely.

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Who threw stuff off the balcony?

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Nobody is suddenly giving you an urgent, don't throw things off the balcony, unless somebody

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threw something off the balcony.

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Right.

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And a lot of things that you can throw off balconies don't really cause a problem.

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Wouldn't even know.

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Right.

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Cigarettes?

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So this had to have been something that was an issue.

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Sizable.

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That someone threw off a balcony.

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Yep.

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Or a pattern of behavior.

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Where a bunch of people are throwing things off balconies.

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Right.

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And I got no information.

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But it was exciting to see an email that I actually was curious about.

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Like a regular beer can thing.

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You know, like you have a party and people are just tossing beer cans over.

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If it's one beer can, nobody's gonna send you an urgent email?

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Probably not.

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If it's 20, there's gonna be a problem.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but I feel like that wouldn't be throw things off the balcony.

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That would be like littering.

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You're totally right.

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Or something.

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This feels like a couch.

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It feels like, yeah, I was thinking table.

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My first thought was table.

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It's furniture.

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It feels like it's furniture.

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It feels furniture-y as a problem, yes.

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Which I kind of understand.

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Moving's a pain in the ass.

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It is.

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But I don't know.

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I'll get to the bottom of this mystery.

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I've been angry at a table before.

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Sure.

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Just gotta go.

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This is bullshit!

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So what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is yesterday was my birthday.

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Happy birthday.

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And it was, I think, my first official old-ass person birthday.

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You're not 40 yet.

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Because, not because of age, but because for my birthday, my wife went to a cardiologist.

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My back really hurt.

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And we were gonna eat dinner, but both of us were like, ooh, I don't know.

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My stomach acid is a little bit off tonight.

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So it was essentially a non-day.

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Yeah.

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I'm sure that a year ago your wife didn't go to a cardiologist.

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No, she did not.

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But I'm guessing your back hurt, and maybe you had some stomach acid.

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That tends to be.

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I feel like your last birthday might have been fairly similar.

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Yeah, but my wife didn't go to the cardiologist.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And I think that's, yeah, I think just saying cardiologist ages you.

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Yeah.

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So I think that you might need a La-Z-Boy.

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We got a chair.

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Yeah, but is it a La-Z-Boy?

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Mm-mm.

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No, it's not a, it's not a cooler.

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Do you know how fucking expensive those things are?

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I think I did look it up once.

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I think they are crazy.

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Crazy expensive.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What about a not-so-lazy boy?

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A very busy boy.

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I mean, for my Christmas present, my wife and her mom bought me a chair, one of those

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chairs, but I mean, you know, I went for the $500 to $800 range.

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Right, right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You didn't go for the...

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The La-Z-Boys are like four grand.

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You didn't go for the old man, what was that, fucking Trump by grace.

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That chair.

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That chair was a chair.

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There were two of them too.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh man.

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That's the dream.

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That's the hammock.

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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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Yeah.

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We're going to be talking about May 8th, 2025, because there's a new pope.

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Yes, there is a new pope.

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And it happened while Alex was on air.

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That's awesome.

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So we gotta see what happens.

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Of course.

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Does Alex like the new pope?

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Does Alex know who the new pope is?

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I mean, I didn't know about the new pope.

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You didn't know about our Chicago boy?

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I didn't know anything about the Chicago boy.

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Me and this guy go way back.

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Do you go way back?

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Yeah, man, we used to be like, we'd go to open mics at High Tops over on Lincoln.

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That sounds true.

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Yeah, I would do a tight five about my dick and he would pray.

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He would bless everybody.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Talk about canon law.

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You know, like you do.

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Yeah, into the early hours of the night.

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I mean, he was the general of the Augustinian order, so you know he's a boss.

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Yeah.

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No, I knew nothing about him until he became pope.

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But yeah, it'll be fun to hear Alex's take on things.

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And so we'll get down to business on that.

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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, to Salma, liberal lesbians want to eat your brains.

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Alex Jones, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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That was a, I think it was a quote.

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It was an Alex Jones quote.

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Next, Tall Tall Chase in Springfield, Oregon.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And my bright spot is traveling two hours to see a 4K restoration of Princess Mononoke

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in an IMAX theater.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to release the Glasgow show, You Cowards.

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Love from Craig the Squonk, who missed his flight from Dublin and is still visibly angry

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about it.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little kitty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Never.

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Yeah.

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Wasn't that the one where we didn't get the audience?

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Yeah.

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The audio of it is, is troubling.

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Terrifying.

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Yeah.

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We sound insane.

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Yep.

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And I don't, I don't have the capacity or I don't want to put fake laughs in there in

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order to make it sound palatable to the ears.

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Nope.

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But also I'm going to pretend that the reason that we're not going to release it is because

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Glasgow did not hold up their end of the bargain, which was kicking the shit out of

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you.

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I was meant to die.

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Yeah.

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That was to be my last day.

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Yeah.

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We made it out safe.

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That's true.

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And everyone was very nice.

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And that is not what we signed up for.

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So we start off here on the eighth.

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Yes.

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And I think, I think by the time Alex got on air, the white smoke had come out.

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Okay.

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Like I think, I think, or maybe it was right after he got on air, but he, he's not aware

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of it.

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Definitely.

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He's setting out to just complain about Bill Gates.

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Regular stuff.

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Yeah.

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It's Thursday, May 8th, 2025.

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Bill Gates is really at it again.

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We're about to expose him for wars.

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Tomorrow's news today.

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We are now entering the 100th and eighth day of the return of the West via the American

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Republic 1776 worldwide.

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I am your host Alex Jones, company from deep in the heart of Texas broadcasting worldwide.

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Now I got up this morning and saw splash all over corporate media, everywhere, Bill Gates's

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big comeback, he thinks, or his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his big assault.

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And he has singled out Elon Musk to say, Elon Musk is doing everything that Bill Gates has

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done.

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So it's that classic meme of where you've got Indiana Jones with the golden idol and

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he's trying to switch it out with the sand.

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And that's exactly what's happening here.

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I mean, it is incredible.

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And what's amazing is I woke up at 5 AM and saw this everywhere hours later, kept looking

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and right before the shoot went live was looking.

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No one even seems to understand what's going on.

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Even people that don't like Bill Gates don't understand how he operates, what his foundation

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does, and what he's doing right here.

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I mean, Bill Gates runs the world population control foundation.

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They changed the name in 2000 of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.

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So we've talked, we've talked about this in the past, but Alex just got that thing about

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the name of the Gates foundation from a meme that he saw on Twitter.

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It's not true, which would give some indication about how seriously one should take his coverage

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of this story.

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So Bill Gates came out and announced that he was going to close the Gates foundation

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at the end of 2045.

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And in the time until then, he was going to give away virtually all of his money, approximately

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$200 billion.

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I have no interest in deifying Bill Gates, but this kind of makes sense.

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Trump has made clear that public health, particularly investing in health in other countries, isn't

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something that he's interested in funding, which really makes Bill Gates's work hard

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to do.

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He discussed the problem that getting rid of USAID represented earlier this year, saying,

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quote, getting those people out there in their depth of experience, that's an asset that

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would be very hard to recreate.

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He was essentially saying that if Trump flips that switch, it'll cause giant problems that

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can't be solved by just re-flipping the switch.

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I think that Gates is right here, but I also don't really care about him all that much.

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And this is where Alex's show has become deeply pathetic.

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This isn't really even talking about what Gates did or didn't do.

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This is all happening because Gates insulted Elon Musk.

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He said, quote, the picture of the world's richest man killing the world's poorest children

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is not a pretty one.

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So Alex has to lead the show with this or else, you know, he won't be doing his job.

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Yeah, but it would be nice to watch the poorest children in the world kill the richest man.

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It does go both ways.

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Sure, sure.

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Eventually you'd hope that that would be a picture.

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Man, if they just ate him.

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Just, oh boy, Lord of the Fly style.

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This should be a good opportunity for Alex to reflect a little bit about the kind of

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coverage that he does, because Gates directly indicted some of Alex's storylines that he's

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had a hand in promoting.

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He said this to the New York Times of Musk's actions with Doge.

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Quote, they cut money to Gaza province in Mozambique.

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That's really for drugs, so mothers don't give their babies HIV.

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But the people doing the cutting are geographically illiterate.

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So they think it's Gaza and condoms.

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Will they go to meet those babies who got HIV because the money was cut?

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Probably not.

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A recent Lancet study estimated that in the next five years, the cuts to USAID are likely

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to result in half a million more children needlessly being born with HIV.

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And that's only one piece of the damage that Trump and Musk are doing.

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If you read Gates' interview in the Times, it's pretty clear what his thinking is here.

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We have idiots in charge now, but they won't always be in charge.

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Gates believes that him spending more money now to try to fill that gap will make it so

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that public health issues the world faces don't become unsolvable before a new administration

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takes back over the government.

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Whether you want to believe his motives or not, that is what he's clearly expressing.

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And that makes some sense.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'm all for it.

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Like logically, I see where he's coming from.

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But there is a large part of me that says it's 2025 and to hear a billionaire be sanctimonious

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about anything makes me rabid.

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Yeah.

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I don't, I'm not naive enough to believe in like fully altruistic motives.

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But at the same time, I don't, I'm not cynical enough to believe that this is all just like

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I need to hide my money.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, you know, there's one part of me says go for it and I'm all for it.

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And the other part of me is foaming at the mouth.

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Sure.

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So what's that part of you is always going to be foaming?

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Yeah, it's never going to not.

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Yeah.

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So Bill Gates, he kills children like he's accusing Musk.

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Sure.

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So he's accused Elon Musk of killing children with USAID cuts when on record just pull it

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up Reuters AP, but had to admit it.

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Headline the majority of polio cases worldwide caused by the vaccine.

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And then you read the articles, the documents, it's Bill Gates's worldwide polio program.

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If Alex had a good argument about this stuff, you really think he wouldn't just constantly

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go back to this single example of a headline that he's misrepresenting.

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If Bill Gates and polio vaccines were really causing so much polio, I would expect that

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Alex would be able to point to other pieces of data than just this headline.

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He can't go any deeper than the headline because this is a parlor trick Alex is playing and

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he knows that any further information reveals that fraud to the audience.

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And I just wish he'd get into any numbers, even the basic stats, like how there were

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16,000 cases of polio in the United States per year before the vaccine was developed

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and there were zero.

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That is an issue.

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Eradicated.

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That is an issue.

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There are only two countries in the world where wild polio virus still circulate freely.

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Yeah.

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Freely is even probably not the right word.

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I just, I don't understand people.

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I understand all the reasons.

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I understand rational stuff.

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I understand all of that.

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But to me, like once I found out I could eradicate a disease, I'm building a fucking Avengers

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team and we're going after all of them one by one.

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I don't give a shit.

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Well, you know, you may actually like Bill Gates's interview in the times more than you

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think that because he, he talks about how it's criminal to not eradicate the things

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that can be eradicated.

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I mean, why, what, what, what kind of lunatic doesn't think that right?

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Yeah.

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You don't have to be a crazy or a healthcare CEO.

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Yeah.

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Or an Alex.

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Or an Alex.

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Yeah.

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So I think he's just mad that he was mean to Elon Musk.

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Yeah, it has to be.

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I really think that that's just what's a, what's got him all hot and bothered.

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Because it's very frustrating.

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People don't get this.

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And even me trying to address how bad he is, I can go 10 hours straight.

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I mean, it made the top of my head blow off this morning when I saw this.

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Elon Musk is the opposite of Bill Gates in pro human population systems.

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Mr. Gates is the Mr. I want to kill everybody on record.

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And now he says, Elon Musk is who he is.

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I will not stand for it.

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And you shouldn't either.

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I think like, I get it.

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You know, you hate Bill Gates and that's fine.

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You don't have to be like Elon Musk is trying to save humanity.

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Yep.

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You don't have to do both of those things.

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You can just.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the problem with that is obviously like, oh, if Bill Gates wants to, wants to

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kettle pot shit, like the very existence of his billions is a zero sum game that has absolutely

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led to poor, poor people experiencing misery beyond misery.

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The creation of the inequality that he encourages and embodies is bad for children.

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So if you want to do that, then that's fine.

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But then you go, well, Elon Musk is exactly the same fucking piece of shit, but probably

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worse, probably way worse.

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And also, I think you would like this New York Times interview because Bill Gates talks

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about that a little bit about how he needs to put the money back into the world.

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And you know, whether or not you believe him, that's, again, it's fine.

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He's not unaware of the dynamic that you're, you should be.

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He's like 65 years old.

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You should be aware of this at this point.

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I think he's 69.

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Nice.

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Like the Pope.

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Boo!

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Coincidence?

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Not controlling the population there.

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So Alex, he's decided he's going to fucking expose Bill Gates.

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Yeah, about time.

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I am going to cover all the other incredible news in this hour.

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And then when I start the second hour, I am going to expose his ass like nobody else has.

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And here's the problem.

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What I cover in the next hour, second hour, is only a small portion.

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This guy is so bad.

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So evil.

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I hear stuff like that and I'm just like, was he holding back before?

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Does he think he hasn't said everything he has to say about Bill Gates?

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And what more could you possibly need?

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I don't know.

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Right?

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He doesn't have any new material.

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I know that.

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But like once you're like, hey, this guy kills and eats children for their blood.

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I don't, I mean, I don't need a, and also he's bad.

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Like I know.

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He's maybe part of the council of 12 or possibly middle management.

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Fine.

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We've already reached the point where I'm on your team for getting rid of this guy if

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that's what we have to do here.

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Right?

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I just, I think that it would be like if we sat down and we were like, we're going to

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fucking expose Alex.

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It's about time.

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We've been holding back all these years.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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We've been trying to make him look good.

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Yep.

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I've been giving to the better for the doubt.

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Now granted I did eight years ago.

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You did.

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We moved on.

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Yeah.

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I think Alex has fully exposed Bill Gates.

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But thankfully the Pope news breaks.

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Yes.

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And Alex doesn't have to only have this one plate to spin for the rest of the show.

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They're neo-feudalists depopulationist.

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I can show you their awards gala's where they go to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.

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Actually, the real name, ha ha ha.

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The global population control foundation was set up by his father.

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Oh, I thought it started in 2020.

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Yeah, right.

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And his father took over the Thomas Watson IBM global eugenics foundation.

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Thomas Watson received the highest award ever given by Nazi Germany.

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A special award made by Adolf Hitler for him.

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Thomas Watson ran and advised Joseph Mingola.

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They just elected a Pope.

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Let's put that on screen even though there's on that.

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So I'm going to stop there until next hour.

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Oh my God.

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It makes me so angry.

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Really switched gears.

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Yeah.

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And to be clear, Alex just saw a meme where a woman whose name he doesn't know was introduced

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accidentally as being from the Institute of population control.

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When the MC meant to say the Institute for population and reproductive health, which

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was a Gates foundation funded branch of the Johns Hopkins school of public health.

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Some dipshit posted the clip of this introduction and pretended that it revealed the Gates foundation's

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original name.

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And Alex has just run with it because he's a dumb liar.

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And this person didn't include the context where the person, even the MC corrects themselves.

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Anyway, Thomas Watson was probably a piece of shit and someone who profits over human

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life, but Alex is overstating things a little bit.

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But even if everything Alex was saying was true, why should he care?

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If he was alive, if Alex was alive during world war II, he would support the Nazis saying

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that they were bad and all, but how can you possibly judge them when they're fighting

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against these evil globalists?

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When these evil globalists are so mad at white people and not letting the Aryans just

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live in peace.

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It's ridiculous to be mad at them whenever you should be mad at these things.

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Right.

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Get the branch out of your eye before you spec, you know?

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There's no such organization as the Thomas Watson global eugenics foundation.

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That would be a weird organization.

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Yeah.

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And I suspect that Alex might be mixing up Bill Gates's dad with Frederick Gates, who's

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unrelated, but was the founder or one of the founders of the Rockefeller foundation.

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I think that's what he's doing there.

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I'm not totally sure.

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Gates is Gates.

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Who gives a shit if they're actually related.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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You know who Bill Gates's cousin is?

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I don't.

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Benjamin Franklin Gates.

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I did not know that.

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Nicholas Cage's character from national treasure.

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Was that his name?

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It was.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So we got a new Pope.

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Right.

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Did it, did it feel, I felt like maybe this is because it came out so close to conclave.

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I felt like we got a new Pope awful quick.

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Right?

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Like, and I'm not saying that the movie is an accurate depiction of events or anything

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like that, but it felt like it was only a day or two.

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Do we, don't we normally have like a week of looking for a Pope?

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I wondered about this and I didn't look it up and I regret it now because the question

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has been raised, but I did feel like the last time it was longer.

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It felt longer last time, but that was cause they got cool Pope.

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Cool Pope is going to take longer to get.

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Sure.

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Everybody knows that.

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Yeah.

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I don't, I don't know.

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I don't maybe, maybe that's the case or maybe it was that short and it's just been that

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it's been so long.

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We just, yeah.

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That we, I've expanded it in my mind.

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I have no idea what the reality is, but it just felt soon.

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This does feel quick.

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And I think the conclave of it all really just makes it too zeitgeisty.

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Yeah.

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There's too much in the air about a conclave.

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It was like one of the best pictures last year.

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And then the Pope dies.

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Did you guys kill him?

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Mm hmm.

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The award season is coming up.

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Or maybe it isn't.

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I have no idea.

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Yep.

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And then on Doughboys, they had a whole big conclave running joke during munch madness.

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So it's like, there's just so much conclave stuff going on.

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There's a lot of conclave stuff.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah.

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So overall, how are you feeling about the Pope?

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I mean, I guess we talked about it a little bit.

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We just joked about how he's from Chicago.

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Yeah, basically.

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But there is a part of me that's like, you can't have an American Pope.

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You just can't.

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It does feel a little...

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It feels wrong.

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It feels right.

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Now, then there's another part of me that's like, you can only have a Pope from the Medici

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family.

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And then it's like, that's also crazy.

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But I don't know.

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When I heard that it was an American Pope, I was like, Cardinals, read the room.

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Right?

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Don't have an American guy.

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Now's not the time.

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But apparently a lot of his practice was in South America.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's from America, but also not totally...

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No, he's a global guy.

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I guess is what I'm inventing a thing.

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He doesn't have just a church in Chicago.

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No, no, no, no.

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He has never gotten a hoagie with us.

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That's never happened.

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Except for that one time outside of high tops on Lincoln.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Of course.

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After we miked.

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Of course.

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But those were different days.

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Yeah.

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He's heard that there's a new pope.

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And so of course he's gonna just start ranting.

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And now he's coming out all over with a major giant paid-for propaganda news blitz.

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This is about Bill Gates.

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This is not about the pope.

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I was gonna say, when did the pope do that?

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He's jumping around topics a little bit.

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Bill Gates is.

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Where, oh...

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Elon Musk and Trump are gonna kill everybody.

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They want to kill poor people.

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They're billionaires killing the poor people.

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That's who Bill Gates is.

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All right, give me the pope information.

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Put it on screen, please.

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Okay, so the smoke has come out.

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Crowd celebrates election of a new pope.

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So soon we should...

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Boy, I hope it's a more conservative, traditionalist one.

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And not one like Francis, the black pope.

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For those who don't know, that means a Jesuit pope.

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Which is under canon law illegal.

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Because you can't have the guardians of the church, the Society of Jesus, the secret police

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of the Catholic church, what they were set up for by Loyola, be able to then manipulate

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things to put their people in because then the quote guardians become people that take

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it over.

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And in the democratization of the cardinals electing the pope, which has now happened.

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So the question is, will the Jesuit globalist, communist, anti-Christ Jesuits, because you

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say, is there an anti-Christ force in the Catholic church?

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They're double Jesuits.

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Hillary's been asked many times, what is your thinking?

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She goes, well, I'm not Catholic, but I am Jew-itical.

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I was trained by the Jesuits.

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And so much of the neo-liberalism crap you see is the Jesuits.

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So this is all pretty stupid.

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And I've listened to enough old episodes of Alex's show to know that the Jesuit conspiracies,

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those were generally something that got brought up by callers.

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And Alex really wouldn't want to get into that too much.

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Because I think it was coded in a particular way in conspiracy communities.

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And Alex didn't want to get involved.

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Much like aliens and stuff.

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Earlier in his career, like, nah, I'm not going to do this.

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I don't remember, maybe it's been too long since I've read Death of the Archbishop.

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But yeah, I don't recall a lot of that going on there.

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It was just more like a, just a missionary dude just doing his thing.

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Well, you have to read between the lines.

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I should have read between the lines.

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He seemed like a pretty good dude though.

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So all this is just fair game now, I guess.

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Like you just do this fucking Jesuits or the Antichrist.

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How do you even do that?

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I don't know.

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And I liked The Order.

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I thought that was a great movie for...

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The Fledger movie?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I like Catholic conspiracy movies.

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Those are fun.

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That was the one with the Sin Eater?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Wasn't that fun?

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It was great.

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It was alright.

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Yeah.

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Well, yeah.

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What about that one with Tom Hanks?

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That's what I'm saying.

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The Da Vinci Code?

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That's it.

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Yeah, I like seeing what Catholics have been up to, I guess.

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Is that what we do?

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Pretty amazing I could come up with Sin Eater, but not Da Vinci Code.

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Yeah, one of the most popular books at a time.

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Yeah, especially of that genre.

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As opposed to an obscure Heath Ledger spiritual sequel to A Knight's Tale.

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Yeah, I worked at a theater when it came out.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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I think I worked at a theater when Da Vinci Code came out too.

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Anyway, there's other news that's going on.

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Okay.

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And Alex touches on some of that.

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Laura Loomer discovers that the new Surgeon General nominee by Trump is a globalist and

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not even have a medical license currently.

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She exposes it.

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RFK's VP Nicole Shanahan exposes it.

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They call Trump and he says, oh, I made a mistake.

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Pulls it back.

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We're doing that all the time.

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And so that's why Gaetz is so angry.

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Yeah, that's why he's pissed off.

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That's why he's doing this New York Times interview.

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That sounds right.

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So Trump initially had tried to nominate a former Fox News pundit to the position of

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Surgeon General, but then that nomination was withdrawn after the media started poking

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around and found out that she had lied about her credentials.

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Wow.

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So that Trump nominated someone named Casey Means to be Surgeon General.

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And this is the person who Laura Loomer has recently gone after.

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Alex is mixing up his unqualified Surgeon General nominees because Means hasn't withdrawn

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her nomination.

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Right.

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That's still active.

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Okay.

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Alex notably likes Casey Means.

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Jesus.

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I'm almost certain that he's talking about Means in that clip though, because he said

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new nominee.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's the second person.

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Yeah.

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It's an easy thing to get mixed up about though, because Loomer also attacked the first nominee

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for liking vaccines.

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Sure.

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They've somewhat painted themselves into a corner where now it's almost impossible for

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them to come up with a legitimate doctor who passes the base's purity test, which is essentially

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denying germ theory.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You can't really have somebody who's going to get past any kind of confirmation who also

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appeases Laura Loomer.

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They messed up because normally what happens is you do the thing and then once you win,

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you get to be like, and now we're going to put all that behind us and we're adults again,

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so we're going to actually have real Surgeon Generals.

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But they fucked up whenever they were just like, all science is bad.

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Oh boy.

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And I'll kill you if you believe in vaccines.

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Kill you if you believe in vaccines.

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Because they're a bio weapon that's meant to kill my kids.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes, maybe, people don't think ahead whenever they make wild outlandish claims

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during a pandemic for years while everybody's trapped inside.

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Yeah.

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People should think about that more.

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People really should.

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So Alex is largely watching the feed, I think from Fox, of the people hanging out waiting

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for the new Pope to come out.

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Okay.

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Yeah, and if they get another globalist Pope in, then they'll have a majority of their

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operatives in and then you could officially say that the Catholic Church has been captured

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completely by the beast system.

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That's my opinion.

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I'm not trying to attack Catholics or anybody.

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Catholics are great people on average.

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Catholics I know are wonderful.

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This is just, I know they're the most concerned people about this.

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This is not as important as getting Trump elected, but almost.

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I mean it's a big deal.

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Is it?

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Half the Christians in the world are Catholics.

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So?

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And they've got institutions everywhere.

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And you saw Catholic Charities, one of the worst, so-called Catholic Charities running

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illegal aliens into the US, Europe, you name it.

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Not using seat belts.

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There it is.

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Understand this is important.

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The suspense is really bad here and they always have him come out before the sun sets behind.

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Was it the Basilica they call it?

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So it should be any men in here.

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St. Peter's Basilica.

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Ah.

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See I don't care about some NFL overtime Super Bowl.

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That doesn't matter.

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I don't have any suspense watching a football game like that.

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I have suspense here.

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I have no idea why.

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And this is a great breaking news coverage.

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I'll say that he lacks a little bit of anything.

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How about who were the candidates?

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Well see some of the Fox News people were talking about that.

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And that's where Alex got the half of Christians are Catholics stat.

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He just repeated that from the pundits on Fox News.

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And so they talk a little bit about people who don't end up becoming Pope.

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But who are like front runners and people who thought like this is someone who might get it.

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But yeah Alex doesn't know anybody.

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You should know if you want like I don't know any of the Cardinals.

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Because of course I don't.

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And I didn't know who the pope was going to be because of course I don't.

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And I don't care. Right.

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But if you're covering it you should know at least two Cardinals names.

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At least. Right.

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Especially if this is close to as important as Trump's election.

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Right. Yes.

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You should have some basis in anything.

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You should look like you care.

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At the very least.

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You should not be making like weird noises and saying the suspense is killing you very unpersuasively.

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What's what is the Basilica.

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Let's just get into it. Who really knows. Who really knows.

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Yeah. So Alex he doesn't know one thing about Catholicism.

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That is that Pope Francis sucked. Sure.

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That dude was not even a Christian. Oh.

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And then he has a great idea. OK.

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I mean you know Francis saying all these communists and leftist leaders.

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Oh they can have communion even though they're pro-abortion.

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It's blasphemous.

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And Pope Francis in my opinion was a blasphemous person.

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I mean that's really bad when you got somebody representing.

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The biggest denomination of Christians who in every way is not a Christian.

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By his actions.

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But that's how Satan operates and captures control of things.

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Oh boy.

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Lot of suspense here.

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Who's hating the seemingly Ozagami on.

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I should have thought to get him on today. I just so much going on.

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I'm actually sick to my stomach right now with a suspense.

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Yeah it shows. It really feels like a person engaged.

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I now maybe maybe my doctrinal understanding is wrong but I might suggest that for the right hand of God his representative on Earth to be called not a Christian would be fairly blasphemous in and of itself.

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Right.

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Then to suggest that the devil could capture the pope i.e. suggesting that God wasn't paying attention or can't protect the pope would also be pretty blasphemous.

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Well I think I think what it really comes down to is that Alex gets to decide who gets communion.

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I feel like that is what it comes down to a lot.

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Alex will tell the pope what's cool and what's not.

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It feels like maybe he should have a doctorate in canon law before he gets to it.

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He's not even a Catholic.

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He's not even a Catholic.

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Why does he care?

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Why?

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Why does he care who gets communion?

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Why does anybody care who's not a Catholic?

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But good instincts trying to get Leo's Agami on.

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Absolutely.

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That is a home run. Great thinking.

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Alex clearly has nothing to say about this whole pope thing and he knows nothing about any of the potential new guys.

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So he needs a weirdo with an accent to do some heavy lifting.

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I think that you can tell exactly how busy Leo is by whether he shows up and how quickly.

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In theory he's a huge illuminati Vatican insider so he should be super busy on the day that there's a new pope.

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He should be unavailable. You can't even get him on the phone.

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At the very least he should be blowing up.

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Yes.

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He should be like if he shows up he should be like Alex I gotta go the phone's ringing off the hook.

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I just wanted to let you know that I gotta go I'm very busy right now.

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I'm sure that when I can I'll get back to you.

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I couldn't leave you hanging but hey I gotta go.

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CNN's calling. All of the big outlets want to do a hit.

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Or at the very least I'm talking to my sources.

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We're figuring everything out so I can get the full picture of the vote as it happened.

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Something.

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We want to know who's on what side.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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He shows up very quick.

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Yeah.

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Unsurprising. Unsurprising.

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He is available.

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I am sitting at my computer waiting for your call sir.

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I'm watching the same stream as you.

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So Alex I can't get Leo on immediately.

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Right.

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And so he decides to Google the people who might become.

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Great.

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And read off what he finds.

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Great.

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Petro.

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Parolin is that how you say it?

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From Italy he's in the betting odds who they think it's going to be.

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That's usually accurate.

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It's not.

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So let's look at him.

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Here he is right here.

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Petro.

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Parolin.

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That's how you say it.

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Is a conservative.

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Anti same sex marriage.

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Anti globalist.

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And they haven't had an Italian pope in a long time.

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But it could also be this conservative.

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Peter Turkson out of Africa the conservative Gaon and Cardinal leading the African church.

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A top contender to become the next pope.

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And so he's not a globalist.

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He's got a good record they say.

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Oh cool.

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Alex does later say that he's just reading off chat GPT.

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Yeah that's okay.

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So I think he just plugged in these names and is relying on AI to give him a breakdown

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of who these guys are.

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Are they cool?

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Are they globalists?

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Oh god.

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Yeah.

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So the betting market is pretty much how he's trying to predict who's going to be the pope.

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And that's wrong.

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Yeah.

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All of the predictions.

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This guy was a real long odds kind of situation.

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The one thing I think I read about the new pope was like the betting odds have always

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been way wrong.

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Like it's never been the guy with the best betting odds.

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I think that I mean I've only been alive for a small number of popes.

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But I do feel like every time it's been like huh how about that?

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How about that guy?

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Yeah.

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That was out of left field.

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Yeah.

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I've never been prepared for the pope.

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Yeah.

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I think they like to I think you know Cardinals like to keep everybody on their toes.

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You never know what we're going to do when you think we're going to zig that's when we

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get to the point where we're going to be the showman.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I mean obviously they bring him out in the fucking balcony.

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They wear all red gigantic robes with big hats and then they bring a guy out in white

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with an even bigger hat.

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Yes they're showmen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You can respect that.

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Yeah.

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So the announcement is made and Alex is like fuck I got to find out if this guy's a conservative.

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Fuck.

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And so as we said before you know you saw all the flags and everything out in the square

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and now all the Americans are holding their flags.

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It's a historical point.

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All right well it wasn't the Italian and I'm not an expert on this.

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We're trying to find out is this guy conservative.

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Let's go back to the feed.

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Continuation of evangelization mission of the church.

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The priority yeah.

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So you can see still the little pockets of red where all the Cardinals are standing on

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the balconies.

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Alex is just basically like someone tell me what direction are we pointing.

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Good pope bad pope.

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What are we doing.

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I don't fucking know who this guy is.

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What are we doing.

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Are we going to be a mean to the pope or are we going to be nice to the pope.

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You have to tell me.

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Yeah I have to listen to this Fox News feed and tell you at least give me a general direction

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to go in.

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And so he does more Googling.

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Sure.

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Chat GPT and he figures out oh this guy hates women which is good.

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Yeah.

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But he also kind of sucks.

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Maybe he's a globalist.

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Oh all right.

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Here's the bottom line.

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Pope Leo.

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Pope Leo the 14th an American cardinal from Chicago is a pope Francis light.

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So he doesn't think that he'd have women priests.

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And so they call that conservative.

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That's just standard.

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And but he's for open borders and all the rest of it.

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So that is not good.

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That's not good.

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Do you think God doesn't transcend borders.

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Yeah I mean Alex does think there's something divine about borders.

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Right.

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Except not just America's borders.

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I feel like he thinks God is a little weak.

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I think he's I think his God is weak as shit.

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That's all I'm saying.

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Well I don't think that you could be Alex and not think that God has some nationalist

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streak.

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That is fair.

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You know.

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That is fair.

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You have to respect the arbitrary decisions of lines that we've made.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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At what point in time does God go like oh well yeah obviously the river is a good border.

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Why else would I put it there.

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Stay on the other side.

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What.

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So Alex needs to find out about this pope and quick.

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Of course.

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And so he's like fuck Catholics Catholics Catholics Catholics Catholics Mel Gibson.

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I'll call Mel Gibson.

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No.

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He doesn't.

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But he thinks about it.

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OK.

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We can open the phones up in the fourth hour if Catholics know more about this than I do.

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I know quite a bit but not not as much as traditional Catholics out there that are really

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up on all this.

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Hey let's see what Mel Gibson thinks.

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I wonder if he said anything that we should.

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I know he's really on top of everything.

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So is his son.

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So we will.

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I guess I.

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I guess I could call them trying to find what they think.

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And Robert Francis.

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Provost born September 14 55 is an American Catholic.

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He has been the prefect of the.

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Guy.

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Guy diocastry of bishops and president of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.

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He was the bishop in Peru in 2015 2023.

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He has made a cardinal in 2023 by Pope Francis.

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He was born in Chicago, Illinois.

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All right.

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Well.

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His eyes don't look evil.

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What.

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Francis.

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I mean Francis looks evil to me.

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I mean not just the action looks like an able to go with your gut.

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So it doesn't.

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Doesn't look evil.

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Now those aren't.

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Really evil eyes are they now.

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Little bit.

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What are we doing here.

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Well we're going to see the actions.

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Yeah.

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Killing it with the analysis of the eyes.

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I like I like that he's like I know Mel Gibson I could call Mel Gibson.

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I'm not going to do that.

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I'm going to just read from chat GPT and then start rambling about eyes.

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I mean to to be a person who is confident enough to just be like you can tell the pope is evil because of his eyes.

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Right.

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But this pope's eyes are ambiguous.

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Not sufficiently evil to notice immediately.

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Right right right right.

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Maybe evil which should call into question your previous assumption about eyes.

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Right.

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If you can't immediately tell all evil or good through eyes maybe you were wrong about the previous eyes.

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Yeah maybe or maybe some people's eyes are just fucking evil.

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I mean you know what.

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Hey there's a little bit of a middle ground.

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You know some things are hot.

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Some things are warm.

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OK so then let me ask you this question.

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The devil's captured the papacy.

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Francis is in there and then the Francis dies.

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Did the devil like lose the papacy.

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No no because Alex is the way the ball seems to be breaking.

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This is a Francis light.

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Right right which means demon pope.

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Right.

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Well Alex already said earlier that if they don't get a conservative in then the Catholic Church is basically taken over.

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Basically been taken over by the devil.

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That's fair.

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So now that that news has happened he must think oh shit Catholic Church is gone.

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Right and now half of all Christians are actually devil worshippers.

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That is tough.

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Yeah now what do we do.

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Complain about Bill Gates.

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That makes sense to me too.

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That's safe harbor.

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Yeah.

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Well that's exactly what his stated goal and aim is that he's given himself awards at their foundation.

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That's really named the global population control foundation.

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Why would you name it that.

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Bill Gates accused Elon Musk of killing children with U.S. aid cuts.

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Gates nukes Musk world's richest killing poorest close quote.

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Oh yeah it's not Bill Gates killing people and saying he wants to.

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It's all Elon Musk for.

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The picture of the world's richest man killing the world's poorest children is not a pretty one said Gates.

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Who told the Times that he loved for him Musk to go in and meet the children.

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They have now been infected with HIV because he cut American aid that had been going to hospitals in Mozambique.

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Why are the children getting HIV.

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They're putting on the shots they've been caught.

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Pull up Reuters.

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Majority of global polio cases from the U.N.'s polio vaccine program and it Bill Gates program run that Reuters AP.

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It should be really embarrassing for Alex to put on this kind of display.

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He has so much nothing here that he has to pull up that polio article again while trying to pretend that children in these countries are getting HIV from vaccines.

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This isn't a person with any grasp on the material he's presenting and it's just way too obvious that this is about Musk.

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It is too clear.

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Yeah this is pathetic.

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I'll just cut through some of the bullshit and explain the game that Alex is playing here.

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Bill Gates came out and made a very good point which is that the actions that Trump and Musk are taking in terms of slashing public health funding around the world are going to have serious repercussions.

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Many of which will lead to increased death particularly of women and children in poorer countries.

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Another possible consequence of this is being completely unprepared for a new pandemic that could emerge which would also lead to a ton of death.

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Alex knows that this is possible and if or when that happens Trump and Musk are going to get blamed for it.

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It's all fun and games to support Doge when it's all memes and Musk's got his chainsaw.

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But when the impact of these cuts start happening Alex is worried that they're going to lose a ton of the normies.

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We're going to see a lot of the actual consequences.

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Yeah.

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I'd be pretty shocked.

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Yeah, yeah, these aren't supposed to have effects.

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Yeah, no, it's just fun, memes.

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It's supposed to be, you know, being men.

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So he's coming up with a storyline that explains everything ahead of time.

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If Alex can have an explanatory narrative in place he may be able to take some of the heat off of Musk and the consequences of his actions when the time comes.

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This is what the information war really comes down to for Alex.

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Bill Gates is doing this interview to put out his storyline which is that Musk's cuts have been very damaging and they'll lead to increased death.

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Alex is responding to this by pushing his narrative which is that Gates is going to release a bioweapon to blame it on Musk which is going to lead to increased deaths.

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These are both just explanations for why there's going to be more death.

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But a very important difference is that one of them is based on bullshit memes and misinterpreted headlines.

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So I think it's pretty clear who the sincere actor in the information war in this case is.

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Jesus.

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That's what this whole coverage of Gates is about.

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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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If I stand up and I see a billionaire on my team I think maybe I might be on the wrong team, you know?

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Like, I don't know why you would run interference for one.

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No. No.

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That's crazy.

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I think that you can incidentally be on the same side as a billionaire.

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That's possible.

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But if you're going out of your way to cheerlead for them, something's wrong.

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Yeah, if the billionaire is on my side it's either because the billionaire came over to me or I'm sneaking in the bushes.

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There's no like, oh, hey, you're going to be mean to this billionaire?

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Yeah, I'm fine with that.

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Yeah.

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So we get Leo Zagami in and it did not take long.

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He was not busy.

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He shows up and, a little refresher, we haven't seen Leo in a little bit.

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For those who have not heard all of our back catalog, Leo Zagami created a religion called Matrixism.

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Did.

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Where he was Neo. He was the savior of this religion.

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Yep.

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Then he got kind of tired of that and decided that he was Jesus.

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Yes, he did.

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And that he had been accepted as Jesus by the Catholic Church.

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Secret Catholic Church.

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Yes.

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And then he did 9-11.

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He did do 9-11, which was a swing.

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Him and Osama bin Laden were working together.

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Yep.

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And after 2010 he swore we would understand why he did it.

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He did!

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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It'll all make sense.

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It has yet to make sense.

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Yeah.

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And we're way past 2011.

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So he was also in real life a DJ in Rome.

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Which makes more sense.

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In the house scene and was known as a lunatic.

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And now he has rebranded himself as an Illuminati Vatican insider.

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Yeah.

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Who pretended to have done 9-11.

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And I respect that.

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I think I've fallen into most of my jobs.

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You know, I didn't set out to become a hearing aid guy.

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And yet here there I was, you know.

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Like I didn't set out to do a lot of the things that I've done as my career.

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Sure.

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So I can understand just falling into the Vatican insider Illuminati game.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't begrudge it as like an improv exercise.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I worry that he might believe some of his own shit at this point.

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But he's the guy you're gonna get if there's a new pope.

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If you're Alex.

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And here's where they began.

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Okay.

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So Leo Zagami we have the first American pope being brought in from my first glance.

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I'm not an expert like you.

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He appears to be globalist Francis Light.

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At least from the surface Light version of Francis agreeing with most of it.

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But they billed Francis as a moderate.

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Of course you document that he's not.

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But you are the Vatican expert of experts.

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What is your take on this individual and were you expecting this Leo Zagami?

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Thank you.

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And best selling author researcher I should add.

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Go ahead Leo.

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Thank you Alex for having me on.

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This is of course a pivotal moment and a turning point in the history of the Catholic Church.

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Following of course the teachings and what was already outlined by Pope Francis.

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Who just before he went into hospital was working with the US bishop conference on yet again waging war against the Trump presidency.

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This is a sign by the cardinals that rather than choosing somebody from Asia or from Africa.

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They wanted to actually insidiously nominate and elevate to the pontificate somebody who is American.

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It's the first time in history that Robert Francis Prebose is no friend of Donald J Trump.

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Oh man. This is bad for Trump.

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Okay.

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That's interesting. That is an interesting kind of conception of the choosing of a pope.

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Is like oh yeah we'll get an American pope so it'll be more reasonable when he says Trump sucks?

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No I took it more along the lines of like they're trying to sucker Trump into thinking that it's an American.

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An America first pope.

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Oh they're trying to trick Trump.

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Trump is notoriously stupid.

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There is that.

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Yeah.

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There is that.

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Yeah.

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It's not a bad process.

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Yeah I mean people chant USA for just about anything.

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Just about anything.

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I think that yeah maybe that's what Leo is expressing that they're hoping.

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Okay I can see that.

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But don't be fooled. Don't be fooled.

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What a strange thing to do when choosing a pope but okay.

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Yeah.

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This is a level of everything is about Trump like that it's beyond parody.

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I think a lot of people in Alex's sort of area they talk about Trump derangement syndrome.

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And I can't imagine anything being a better example of that than being like the election of the pope is about my

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like online politics.

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Yep.

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And uh.

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So Pope Francis rigged the election of the popes.

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I'm sorry when?

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After?

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Before he died.

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Before he died.

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Yeah yeah.

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Are we sure?

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Yeah he worked it all out in order for this pope to carry on his work which is finishing Vatican II.

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Okay.

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It's not a great thing and I have outlined in my new book that just came out how Pope Francis has rigged

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this concret which nominated his successor so he could have of course 80% of the Cardinals on his side

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and nominate somebody who will follow in the policies of Vatican II.

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Those policies that Pope Francis said were only completed by 50% is another 50% that will of course not only

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destroy what the remains of Christianity but then eventually will bring us to the integration with other

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religions because now the next thing this pope will do will step out step down from his role of pope

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and rather be perceived as a bishop amongst bishop to favor the unification of all Christian churches.

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What?

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It's gonna be a war against Trump waged by the church every day.

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See Trump is gonna save the church from the church.

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What?

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Yeah see the church is gonna try and become too much church.

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Right.

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They're all gonna unite as one church.

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And Trump is gonna stand against that.

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Boy.

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I just don't understand.

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No.

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I just don't understand.

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Like ultimately like even when I'm trying to get into the brain of somebody who might believe some of this stuff.

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What?

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Yeah.

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What?

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It's tough.

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It's tough because I think that if there's one thing that I the whole thing about the conclave and all this stuff is ceremony.

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Yeah.

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Like all of it is so much tradition and all this stuff.

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It goes way back before there even was an America.

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Yeah there's no way that he's gonna be like hey there's no popes anymore.

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I'm a bishop among bishops.

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What?

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That's not.

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What are we doing?

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That undoes the point of the pageantry.

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And even then.

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Okay so you're.

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So this is all about Trump.

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Fine I guess.

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Because that's just who you guys are now is just a little masturbatory Trump things.

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Okay so the Catholic Church is gonna wage war on him.

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What does that even look like?

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Trying to unite all of the Christian churches as one.

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Okay.

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What does that mean?

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Well you know hey if you're a Baptist you can come to Catholic Church.

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Right but are we Catholics can go to all borders or borderless churches now.

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I've got a terrifying bit of reality for these people.

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Anyone can go to any church they want.

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At any time.

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Yeah.

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You don't even have to agree.

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There's not a blood test for if you're a Catholic.

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Honestly most churches like to have you in there.

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Yeah.

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As long as you're not disruptive you're fine.

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You're fine.

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Yeah I don't know.

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I think obviously the New World Order kind of stuff has the one world religion piece

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of it.

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And so that's what he's signaling to.

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Yeah.

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But I don't see this as being very feasible.

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I don't think it's realistic under this pope.

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Yeah I don't understand the like part of faith has always been my understanding of

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it is that I don't know what is going to happen.

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Right.

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But my faith says that because God is in control of stuff even though I may disagree with what

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this pope has said in the past.

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He is the pope.

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So I have to have faith that he is going to do what he's going to do.

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Right.

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And if what he does is something I don't agree with I have to have faith that that is what

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is important to have happened.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah that's why that's where the Vatican II of it all comes into it.

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Leo doesn't really believe that the popes since then since the 60s have been real popes.

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They've not been real popes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which is like just stop being Catholic then.

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He can't.

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Because he's.

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It's in his blood.

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Ugh.

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And they don't blood test you for Catholicism.

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They really don't.

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They don't.

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They should.

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He does say a couple times how he refuses to leave the church because it's in him.

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Fine.

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He also brings up his new book a lot.

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Yeah that sounds right.

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Good timing Leo.

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Yeah it is a really good time to have written a book about the pope.

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Yeah.

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A twelfth of Confessions of the Illuminati.

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One for each Illuminati.

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It makes sense to me.

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Probably way too many pages for the giant fill.

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So Alex is like, hey you know what would be great?

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I got another guest coming in.

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Yeah.

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Talk about Bill Gates and stuff.

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Sure.

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Can you come back later?

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I've almost.

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I don't think I've ever heard him do this to a guest.

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Yeah.

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Like I gotta talk to this other guy.

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But I do really want to talk to you.

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The pope just.

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We've got a new pope.

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I would love you to come back.

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Just to be clear.

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What I'm trying to say is.

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You're not going anywhere.

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You're not going anywhere.

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And this other guy might have paid for the time.

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Yep.

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So.

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Yep.

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Can you come back later and take Catholic calls with me?

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I've gotta go to break.

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But could you come on at like 2.15 central so we can take some calls and then you can

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respond to the Catholics cause you obviously know like they do a lot more than I do.

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Absolutely.

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I mean and like you said my new book also explains why the Luciferian court made up

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of Illuminati.

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He pretty made some think tanks from the building.

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Hold on stay there.

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I gotta go to break.

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Do five more minutes with us.

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Steve Kirk is coming on to respond to all this Bill Gates stuff and some new shocking

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studies confirming the mass death from the shots.

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But stay right there.

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We're going to break in a minute.

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We'll come back to you for five minutes.

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Talk about the book.

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Then we'll have you back on in the fourth hour and I'm going to write your calls.

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So Zagami is going to be here to respond to you and answer any of your questions.

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You may disagree with him.

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You may agree.

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But Zagami knows his stuff.

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We'll stay there Leo.

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We're going to break.

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Oh.

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Oh worse than Francis.

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I'll take his word for it.

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That is bad.

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Oh.

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But is it because they're there's the progression of their takeover or is because he himself

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is worse.

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This is just stunning.

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And then we're supposed to celebrate this because he's an American.

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Are we?

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Say something about the war on Catholics by the Democrats conservative Catholics.

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We're going to go to break.

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We'll be right back with Leo Zagami for five more minutes and then our special guests joining

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us.

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Please remember we had huge sale on Methylene Blue.

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Methylene Blue.

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You know it's flying up the shelves.

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Don't you dare bring up your book.

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I'm going to plug.

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You think you're going to bring up your book.

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I'm going to plug this Methylene Blue.

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You didn't buy for this.

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You didn't spend for this time.

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All right.

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All right.

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Now granted you did show up on short notice.

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There is there is that.

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And I'll give you a little plug on on my time.

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A little kickback.

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Yeah.

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When I choose.

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But yeah Alex has Steve Kirsch come in and his gold guy.

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So I think that that was like a block of time.

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Yeah.

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Like he couldn't move around.

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Yeah.

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So you got to get Leo back on later in the show.

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So we got that to look forward to.

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Yep.

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You would have to think that God fucking God of the universe God is interested in the United

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States electoral politics when choosing a pope.

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Right.

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No.

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Well maybe but not necessarily because the Vatican too right.

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The devil is interested in American politics but maybe not God the devil of the universe

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of existing for all time fame keenly interested in Trump's rolling numbers.

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Yeah.

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They're not even president for that long.

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In terms of like existence.

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Well a day to God is a thousand years.

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Oh Jesus Christ.

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A thousand years is like a day.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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What you gonna do.

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So I'll tell you I'll tell you what listening to this next guest is like a thousand fucking

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years.

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I hate this dude.

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Steve Kirsch.

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Steve Kirsch.

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He's the anti-vax guy who's got a sub stack and he writes a bunch of dumb shit.

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Right.

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Apparently he's uncovered a new study that is big news.

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It's just incredible not just the insurance actuaries have been out for years and all

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the other numbers and global live expectancy dropping particularly where the shots are

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rolled out are the government databases that have come out proving all of it from New

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Zealand to the United States and then now all the big developments with RFK Jr. overall

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doing a lot of really good things but also big pushes to roll out more COVID shots that

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he's trying to block by making him actually study it.

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But this new study by a very respected MIT scientist is out.

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Pfizer recipients face 37 percent higher risk of death than Moderna recipients.

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Well we'd always heard that Moderna was stronger in the same thing as the Pfizer.

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Very interesting study of 1.47 million Florida adults by MIT scientists and Surgeon General

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finds significantly higher all-cause cardiovascular and COVID-19 mortality after Pfizer vaccinations.

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So this is the Surgeon General of Florida with all the government resources coming out

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with this.

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So this is a non peer-reviewed study published by a professor from MIT and Ron DeSantis'

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Surgeon General in Florida.

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Seems nice.

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The headline might lead you to believe that this shows some kind of super high death toll

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among people who got vaccinated but it really just shows that people who got the Pfizer

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vaccine had a higher incidence of mortality from all causes in the following 12 months

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after their second vaccination than people who got the Moderna shot.

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You literally can't tell anything else from this data.

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You have no data in that set for people who didn't get vaccinated.

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So it could very well be that both the Pfizer and Moderna recipients had lower all-cause

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mortality rates than non-vaccinated people.

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We just have no idea.

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Because it's not in the study.

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Yeah.

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From this study the all-cause mortality rates were about 847 per 100,000 in the Pfizer group

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and 618 in the Moderna group.

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In 2021 the all-cause mortality rate for everyone in Florida was 829.6 per 100,000

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and even after COVID slowed down it was still 738.4 in 2023.

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These numbers really don't seem all that out of sync with the general population

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and the Moderna number is actually a bit lower.

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But even what I'm saying doesn't really mean anything.

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I only bring up those numbers to illustrate that these rates aren't really higher than

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you'd expect.

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Yeah.

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And you don't have any of that context from the study or these headlines on Steve Kirsch's

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dumb substack.

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Yeah, also this doesn't work for Alex.

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Or I mean in real, if you think for five seconds it works even less for him because if it's

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all about killing people then there should be no difference in efficacy.

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What does efficacy matter between Moderna and Pfizer if the goal is murder?

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Little ingredients.

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Right?

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What does that mean?

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Well the globalists want to learn.

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You know, so they're testing shit out.

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But that's what I'm saying.

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So it suggests that there is some sort of competitive element or some sort of experimental

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element that each of these are doing independent of each other which wouldn't make sense if

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it was everybody trying to murder you.

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Well, I think that we haven't quite figured out poison.

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You know?

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You may be right.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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It's not in this MIT study how many of those people were poisoned by vaccines.

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So you might look at these numbers that are in this study and think that this at least

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proves that the Pfizer vaccine is more dangerous than the Moderna one.

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But it doesn't really show that either.

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There are far too many possible confounding variables in terms of who got which vaccine.

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Like if one of them was released before the other and obviously higher risk populations

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would have had priority of who got the shot and maybe that would have skewed the data

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towards more of them dying.

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There's a whole lot of possibilities.

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Well yeah, this is a meaningless study.

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Yes.

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This is a little messy for Alex though because as he mentioned in that clip, he's been saying

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that the Moderna shot is more dangerous for a while and this flies right in the face of that.

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Right?

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So it's counterproductive for him.

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Right.

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None of this means anything though.

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Nope.

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But Steve Kirsch, you know, maybe paid for his time or didn't.

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So we gotta get through it.

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Gotta get it.

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They looked at seven different parameters to match the groups.

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And so what they did is they said, you know, the people in Florida, there are a bunch of

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people in Florida who got the shots.

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Let's take one and a half million of those people and try to match them together.

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Let's match 750,000 with 750,000 who took, you know, Pfizer 750,000 versus Moderna 750,000.

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And let's try to match them down to ideally they live on the same block that they got

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Pfizer or Moderna at the same, in the same week at the same vaccination center, you know,

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and you know, it's basically they tried to make everything look the same in terms of

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matching these cohorts.

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And to some extent these cohorts are matched better than what you would get in a randomized trial.

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Huh.

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Why don't you always do that then?

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So the researchers did try to match people up based on these seven variables that include

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things like age group and sex in order to try to eliminate confounding variables.

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Sure.

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They didn't consider comorbidities though.

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They literally say in the study, quote, the matching did not include potentially important

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characteristics such as comorbid conditions.

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Differences in these conditions could bias the analysis, although prior population studies

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using fewer criteria for matching have demonstrated that the omission of comorbid conditions doesn't

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appear to increase the risk of bias.

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But you just said that it could.

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So maybe it doesn't appear to.

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But it could.

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Yeah.

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Means even less to me.

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And it also seems pretty relevant.

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Pretty fucking relevant.

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Yeah.

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They also say that, quote, it is possible that the finding may not generalize to segments

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of the excluded population and that, quote, some of the health outcomes such as COVID-19

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deaths and cardiovascular deaths could be subject to misclassification due to errors

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on death certificates.

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So who really knows?

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Honestly.

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Yep.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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There's not enough to go on here, which is why it's a preprint non-peer reviewed study.

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And Steve is overselling this is right on brand for his sub stack COVID grifter shit.

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Yeah.

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So here we are.

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This is the surgeon general and this is made for propaganda.

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Yeah.

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This is a propaganda thing.

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Yeah.

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And Steve actually even says that he was responsible for getting made because he put a little thought

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in the surgeon general's mind.

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He suggested something about looking at these death numbers.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We could exploit that.

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We can fake shit about that.

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Can we work on something like that?

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Maybe you create that and then I'll write a sub stack article about it and go on Alex's

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show.

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I think that now we should be like, okay, that it is still 2020.

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It's still going on.

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We're still getting a flood of this like vaccines are going to kill you kind of thing.

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It has to be constant is because if you don't get it for even a second, you're like, yeah,

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vaccines are obviously better than not vaccines for all the bad stuff that they are.

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Like just pure numbers wise, it would be absurd to suggest that vaccines are bad.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You have to have a constant drumbeat of that.

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Otherwise, yeah, you have to have someone who's constantly making you forget about like

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how much less polio there is.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's there.

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It's so obviously that vaccines are better.

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Yes.

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I mean, it's just not like if you want, if you want to tell me about vaccines, no.

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And if you want to tell me about all the bad things that have happened, like there's this

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contaminated vaccine for all that stuff.

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And I'm like, yes, totally.

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We got to fix that.

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But seriously.

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Yeah.

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And it's depressing.

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Yeah.

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Because none of this shit holds up to scrutiny for even the shortest amount of time.

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Nope.

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And you have people like Steve who are just saying this dumb shit.

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Now, what's important to realize, and it's not brought out in the paper, is that vaccines

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in general, there has not been a vaccine that has ever reduced your non disease all-cause

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mortality.

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In other words, vaccines aren't designed to make you live longer.

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The vaccines are only designed to take whatever risk you have from a particular disease and

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bring it down to ideally zero for that disease.

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It's not designed to increase your lifespan.

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So that means that Moderna, which had a, we can assume that Moderna isn't increasing your

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lifespan.

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What?

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Because nobody takes Moderna and is living longer.

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So, so let's, let's give Moderna the benefit of the doubt.

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What?

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Let's say that Moderna doesn't increase your all-cause mortality at all.

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In other words, Moderna is perfectly safe.

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Well, let me make this point.

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You're the scientist, but I'm a lay person.

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The reason Kennedy wants to bring placebo back that they've gotten rid of overall is

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because if they did this rollout and then had actually given, say, a third of the people

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a placebo, we would have the real floor.

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But now we don't know with the Moderna under the Pfizer because there's nothing to gauge

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it by with a placebo.

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That is exactly right.

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You're, I'm going to give you an honorary degree as a, as a, to be a scientist from

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that.

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That is exactly right.

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Ooh, Alex, I'll give you a little pat on the head.

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Aren't you a big smart boy?

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You have a placebo group if you want.

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It's the unvaccinated population and Steve and Alex are welcome to use that as their

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baseline if they want.

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Go ahead, ding dongs.

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I mean.

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It's deeply unethical to pretend to give someone a treatment in the midst of a pandemic,

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so this kind of placebo study should never be done.

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Alex doesn't even want that to be done.

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That's insane.

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It's just a crazy demand that he's making so no vaccine can ever meet that standard.

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That's the game that he's playing here with this, oh, you got to do placebo studies.

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You don't want that.

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Yeah.

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You want people getting like tricked with fake vaccines during a pandemic, please.

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No, I mean, this is, this is like, I don't know how it's still around, but whatever explanation

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you have is equal in making sense to what it was to burn a witch.

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Like same thing.

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Oh, there's, they float fine.

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That's the same quality of thinking as vaccines don't make you live longer.

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Dumb, dumb.

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They just eradicate a disease like a good person would do.

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What?

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Yeah.

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They don't extend your life.

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Right.

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Ah, but I didn't ask them to.

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Yeah.

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And also, even if we accept the premises of the argument, it still doesn't mean that Pfizer

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shortened your life that much.

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That doesn't make any sense.

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No, no.

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This is just someone who's not thinking that great.

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It's not life extension and therefore it is life D extension.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I hate him.

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Yep.

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And he sucks.

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And so I'm not going to talk about him more past this study.

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Alex has his gold guy on, which is definitely a broker content.

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Very ethical.

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Very ethical.

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It's almost a hundred percent spawn caught.

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Yeah.

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But then the weirdo Leo Zagami comes back.

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Hey.

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And he's talking about how this is all just about the memes.

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Oh, wait, what?

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Trump and his memes.

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Oh God.

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So they knew Francis was about to die.

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They accelerated him into Cardinal and just brought him right in.

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Yes, because this is really about challenging Donald J. Trump.

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And that's why Trump, prior to this, did that meme, which looked like a joke, but in reality

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was a clear message to a conclave, which of course with 80% of progressives was about

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to elect somebody else that will bring the church closer and closer to communist China.

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Because of course this Pope is also a supporter of the Vatican China deal.

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Wow.

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Wow, indeed.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So Trump put out that meme of himself as the Pope.

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Yep.

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And the conclave took notice.

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Of course they did.

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Of this.

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And they were like, ooh, shit.

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This is fun.

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It's a fun way to look at it.

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I guess.

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I guess.

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I mean, it's more fun than just like, oh, a bunch of these old dudes voted for a guy.

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I mean, yeah, that is better.

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I get it.

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Yeah.

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And actually I kind of, I mean, I obviously don't hope that Leo's right, but I think it

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would be kind of funny if what he thinks is coming is coming.

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Okay.

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And there will be those forces, those conservative forces within the Catholic Church that will

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suggest a schism.

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And of course, if we are no longer, it's no longer possible to relate to a Pope like this

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and to a church that for the last 12 years has seen empty churches, empty seminaries.

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It's a little bit like the woke military that Hexit took on.

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Now it's being repopulated.

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But during the presidency of Joe Biden, it was going the other way.

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So this church is going further into wokeism.

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I don't think that we will find any solution.

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I mean, in April 2025, this present Pope retweeted a post highlighting the photo of auxiliary

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bishop Evelio Meviar for the condemnation of the deportation of a U.S. resident questioning,

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and he said this, and I quote him, do you not see the suffering?

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Is your conscience not disturbed?

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How can you stay quiet?

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So this means that people like Tom Homan, who is a friend and who is a Catholic, will

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of course be attacked and will find themselves in a very awkward position, as well as those

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hundred priests that went to Mar-a-Lago, those traditional priests.

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It's about time to really think about the future of us as Catholics and see if it's

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maybe the time for a schism that will lead us away from this heresy which has now become

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the Church of Rome.

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What if Leo Zagami leads a schism in the church?

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What if, like this becomes a defining moment in Catholic history?

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I wonder if Trump destroys the Catholic Church.

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I mean, if Luther's theses were actually just like, memes, I guess that would be similar,

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you know?

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It's a retweet.

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Yeah, what, the Pope retweeted something.

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Well, I mean, the Pope already, you know, it's not like it's new that the Pope had a

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Twitter account.

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Right.

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That's not new, but it does feel different when it's scrutinizing pre-Pope tweets.

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Like I don't know what Francis was tweeting before he became Pope.

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I don't, like, y'all, isn't God supposed to be in charge of this whole Pope thing?

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I feel like it's very much like a bunch of dudes now.

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We're not even giving lip service to like, it's God's Pope.

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Now it's just like, hey, maybe it's time for us to get rid of the woke half of the Catholic

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Church?

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Is that what I understand correctly?

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Well, this is the Vatican II of it all.

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It's time for Vatican III.

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Right.

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The return of Curly's gold.

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And we got Mel Gibson.

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We got Alex Jones, who's not even a Catholic.

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We got Leo Zagami.

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Yep, yep.

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It's gonna be a party.

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The Zagamian Church is, uh, yeah, I could see that.

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Why not?

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Let's do it.

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It's matrixism.

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Yeah.

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It's finally here.

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It's time for us to get rid of the woke Catholicism and move on to matrixism.

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Where Leo is Neo.

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So we have one last clip and it's from one of the calls.

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Yeah.

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These calls are just people who are like, oh my God, the Catholic Church is evil.

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Yeah.

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Whatever.

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Sure.

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The Masons.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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But there's one guy who I think made a point that Leo Zagami does not enjoy.

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Oh.

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Let's go to Jake in Ohio.

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You're on the air.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, so I had an African priest that was from Ghana and he tried to tell me that he

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did not know about Lali Bella in Aksum in Ethiopia.

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I'm 44.

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I've known about since I was 15.

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So that sent me down this route.

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Just my BS detector went off.

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So this is why I think he chose the name Leo and this is about something called Yaldabaoth.

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And Yaldabaoth means little boy come here.

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What she produced something became material.

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What she produced came to be something material like an aborted fetus.

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It took shape from the shadow and it became an arrogant beast, something resembling a

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lion.

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So that dude is just horrible, man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, well, I mean, I can't not say that you are right.

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My name is also Leo.

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My name is Leo.

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My name's Leo.

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I am Leo.

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So I'm not going to say that everybody named Leo is an aborted fetus that has been turned

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into a shadow of a lion.

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I'm not really going to go along with you on this Leo being a demonic name thing.

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That's that's just speaking as a Leo.

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That's just poor improv.

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You got a yes and that and double up.

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Yeah.

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I don't even want to know what it means backwards, motherfucker.

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Oh, God, that's just great.

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I think that there is a moment of like, I want to humor that I want to humor these callers

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with their nonsense.

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But there's a line.

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I you know, my own name.

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That's the line.

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Yeah, I think I think there is something incredibly unacceptable about the need for some people

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to suddenly be experts on bullshit.

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The idea of suddenly being like, oh, yeah, I know this.

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I've known this guy from way back.

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What?

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Fuck you.

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Well, you have not known this cardinal who's only been a cardinal since twenty twenty three,

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who is a fucking Peruvian guy for whatever length of time in South America.

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You don't know shit about this guy.

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Don't act like you're an expert on this guy just because he's the pope today.

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I say that about the callers.

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I say that about Alex.

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Yeah, I do not say that about Leo's agami.

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That's true.

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He knew that guy.

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I just I know he doesn't.

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But it's more fun to live in the world where he knew all about this fucking guy before

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Alex called.

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Yeah, like it's the same thing we were talking about with like liking to imagine Bill Cooper

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with a typewriter and a cigarette.

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Yeah, you know, like I like to imagine he's studying the fucking Cardinals, all of them.

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Yeah.

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He knows all their connections.

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No, I want him to be like a like an NFL draft guy who's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I've been

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watching this guy in fucking Ole Miss.

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And you're like, well, obviously, I don't know anything about Ole Miss.

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I live in Illinois.

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It's got fucking scouting reports on all of the bishops.

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Yeah.

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What's this guy's god above replacement cardinal?

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like what's his gark?

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I like to believe that.

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I know it's not true, but it's that's a fiction that I'll allow to exist in my head.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Popermetrics.

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Money Pope.

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Yeah.

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Money Pope.

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Yep.

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OK.

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So after experiencing this, I thought like, well, that when the last pope got in, Alex

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wasn't there.

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He wasn't in studio.

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Yeah.

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And maybe that was for the better.

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Probably.

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I don't think he had a whole lot to say other than he hates the pope.

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And we already knew that.

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Yeah.

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If it was somebody who was more of a Mel Gibson's dad kind of pope.

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Yeah.

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Vatican II hating kind of guy, maybe he'd be into it.

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But other than that.

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I guess whenever the other pope got in, everybody was very quick to be like, oh, this is liberal

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pope.

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This is woke pope for sure.

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Well, it was also like a really weird situation because Ratzinger had stepped down.

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He'd stepped down.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which popes can't do on account of the god thing.

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Yeah.

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And so that threw everything into a bit of chaos, whereas at least Francis died.

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Francis did have the courtesy to die.

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If you believe the news.

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Like shouldn't you think that, never mind, never mind.

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I'm not going to try and understand it because now Catholicism is woke, which is something

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I never thought I was going to hear about.

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Woke tholicism.

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Woke tholicism, never thought that was going to happen.

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So we will check in to see how Alex is going to build on the new pope.

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Now that the Catholic church is gone, it has been taken over fully.

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Half of Christianity is...

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Devil worshiping monsters.

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It's time for matrixism.

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It is tough.

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Yeah, it's tough out there.

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So we'll see how he holds up, but until then we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, we'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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That's Neo, Leo.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's our guy.

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Yeah.

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I'm the mysterious professor.

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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.

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I love you.