Transcript/1032: April 23-24, 2025

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Dan and Jordan.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and...

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Stop it.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and...

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Andy...

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding us.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a fifth-time caller.

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Knowledge Fight.

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Knowledge Fight dot com.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple of dudes.

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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today is I was thinking about this whole experiencing life with a pinky

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ring thing.

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Sure.

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And how I'm supposed to report back on experiences.

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Sure.

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And this is kind of hitting a wall because I don't do much.

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There is that.

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I don't leave the house that much.

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There is that.

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So I started to notice that there weren't many things for me to say, hey, this is what

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it was like for me to experience X, Y, or Z while wearing a pinky ring.

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Sure.

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But I did go to try and...

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I went to like a second-hand store to try and find an end table with a pinky ring.

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And I did feel like the people might have suspected that I was looking for a new fence.

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Okay.

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You know, I'm like, I'm trying to move stolen goods.

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I like that.

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I like that.

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I'm coming in there looking for a connect.

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So they like clocked the pinky ring and were like, whoa, we got to treat this guy a little

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bit differently because we don't know.

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I don't know if they did treat me any differently, but I felt it.

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I felt like maybe they were looking at me as a potential guy who has some things.

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Yeah.

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That he needs to move.

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He needs to get rid of.

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I don't think it's always the case, but sometimes your inner feelings are more important than

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what's happening around you.

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So it's important that this influenced you in this way.

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Guy with a pinky ring at the second-hand store, there's a criminal veneer to that.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It would have been more fun if you were using Cockney rhyming slang at the same time.

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That would have done it.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'll work that in next time.

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Okay.

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So what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is Andor.

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Okay.

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Andor.

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I've heard it's great.

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It's fucking great.

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Yeah.

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It's really fucking great.

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It just is.

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Where do you put it in the Star Wars properties?

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I mean, as far as TV shows, it's the best Star Wars TV show.

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Better than Mando.

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Yeah, better than Mando.

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Better than the Book of Boba Fett.

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Better, way better than the Book of Boba Fett.

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Better, I don't remember any others.

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What about that cartoon one?

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The Clone Wars?

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Rebels?

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Mmm.

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Uh, uh, uh.

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Upper...

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The one with Ezra?

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Lower Dec?

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Yeah, the Lower Dec Star.

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That's Star Trek.

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No, not that one.

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Um, then there was Obi-Wan, which I enjoyed Obi-Wan the show more than other people.

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And then The Apprentice, I really enjoyed that.

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That was with Trump.

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Uh, no.

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Was it called The Apprentice?

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No, what was it?

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Trump's show was.

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It was, uh, no, I'm for sure.

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Oh shit, what was it called?

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Acolyte?

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That's what it was called, yes.

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I know that.

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I have no idea.

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Mmm.

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Um, so yeah, I've heard that's fantastic.

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Yeah.

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And not, uh, like crazy Star Wars-y.

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No, I mean, it's so crazy that it's so hard to make it happen, but the Star Wars universe

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has more people than just the Jedi.

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Mmm-hmm.

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You don't need to always see what wizards are fighting about with their lightsabers,

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you know?

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Yeah, I know that's what you liked about the new game.

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Yeah, I really liked it.

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So much.

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I don't need Jedi with their fucking moralism all the time.

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Sometimes you gotta steal shit and blow stuff up.

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And I think everything we know of the Jedi from all of the stories, like, they're not

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right.

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Nope.

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So, like, let's see what other people are up to.

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Let's see what everybody else has to say.

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Yeah.

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Ah, haven't thought about it.

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Well, I'm glad you're enjoying the show.

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Yeah.

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Did they just finish the season, or?

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No, the last three episodes, uh, are gonna be next week.

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Nice.

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And that's the end of the show.

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Forever?

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Yep.

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Because, and I'll tell you why, at the end of this show is when the movie Rogue One happens.

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Okay.

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And that's in, so the show ends, Rogue One happens, then a new hope starts.

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We're eventually just gonna get everything.

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I mean, I think the whole timeline, essentially, yeah.

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We're gonna have a, like, actual rise and fall of the Roman Empire kind of thing.

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Alright.

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Yeah.

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That's fine.

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Yeah, it could be interesting.

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Sure.

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And then we get to, like, when they go real, uh, like, you know, there's a lot of niche

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characters.

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Sure.

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In Star Wars.

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Sure.

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I, I, do...

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You mean like Jack Tono Porkins?

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Sure.

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Let's give him a show.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah, let's do that.

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I'm down for that.

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Let's make everybody a show.

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Okay, alright.

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You wanna, you wanna, uh, uh, go take out some wamp rats with Biggs?

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And Binks.

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Biggs and Binks.

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I like it.

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Let's do it.

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Biggs and Binks is like a TV, is like a movie review show.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm in.

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A two-hander with Biggs and Binks.

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We're printing money.

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Nisa Thinks Spielberg is over the shark.

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Oh, right.

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Nisa thinks we're gonna crush the ratings.

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Um, so, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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Yeah, okay.

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We are back in the present talking about our primary ding-dong.

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Sure.

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Uh, we're talking about the 23rd and 24th of April, 2025.

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Gotcha.

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And shit, is this a bummer.

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Oh, no.

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Alex is wrestling with the reality that he's about to lose everything.

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Okay, good.

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Fun.

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Um, we've been here too many times in the past to get too excited.

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Sure.

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But if you, if you feel the tone out of where he's at, he is actually like, um, this is

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gonna be gone.

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I'm done.

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Good.

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Kind of.

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Yeah.

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It's good for him to be in, but he sucks.

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Sure.

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So it's kind of fun.

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Yeah.

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Um, and we'll get down to business talking about all of that, but first, let's take a

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little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, what's in this mail bag?

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Yep, Peter Dutton is Timu Trump.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Liz Liz, the Chicagoan neurosurgery goddess.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Pete Booty Juice.

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I want to ride my bike with Pete Booty Juice, liberal photo op in Washington, D.C.

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I'm going to keep on riding with the Pete Booty Juice, Pete Booty Juice.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm sure I got the meter of that wrong.

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No, it was perfect, and I'm glad you said it out loud.

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Uh, thank you.

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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much too.

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I'm writing this on March 31st to say happy 12th anniversary to Kel for May 11th.

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I always thought you were cool.

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Love from Pippin.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy Shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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That one wasn't super late.

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No, I know.

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I'd like to, I, so I read that one and I was like, it is possible that I could hang a hold

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onto this one and do it closer to the day.

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But then I thought that's unfair to all the people who we've been like two months late

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on.

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If your name comes up when your name comes up.

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Yeah, it's just a roll of the dice.

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Exactly.

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Um, so, uh, we're going to start this off on the 23rd and Alex is, uh, he's getting

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to some headlines for the day.

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All right.

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It is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025.

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We're entering the 93rd day of the return of president prompt.

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Then you look at the 94th.

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All right.

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Uh, wow.

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What a day.

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The British government says, Oh, we're going to have the jet airplanes, all spray chemicals

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in the air to save you from global warming, to block the sun out.

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Oh, that I said 95 with the documents.

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Oh, and clause Schwab's under fraud criminal investigation.

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Ooh.

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And so much more.

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It's just insane.

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And I told you, I always say 2000 chemicals.

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That was the old number.

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I'm wrong.

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They've listed them as over 10,000 deadly addictive toxic chemicals that only us food

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producers it's banned everywhere else.

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Putting our food as part of the globalist targeting all banned officially yesterday.

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It's all being pulled out right now because the liability protection is gone.

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So in the first minute of the show, Alex has laid out three fairly large stories, almost

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like bullet points in an actual news show or one of the pundit type shows you see on

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major networks.

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This would be like the headline rundown of what's coming up later on in the show.

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These are the segments that they've prepared and they're about to present.

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But with Alex, it's kind of random.

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These are tweets that he's got towards the top of his stack of paper.

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And it may or may not be the case that he covers these stories in the body of the show.

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It really depends on how the vibes evolved throughout his broadcast.

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You can be certain that he won't do any actual coverage of the stories in this headline rundown,

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but it's funny to realize that a lot of times he doesn't even get back to rambling about

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them.

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This is incredibly just rough.

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Yeah.

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Throwing darts.

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There would be like a chyron.

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There might even be like a thing on that end or like five minutes from now we'll get into

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this specific story.

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So you know, this is when you take a shit or something.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There'd be some production meeting that had taken place and cues.

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Structure of any kind.

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Yeah.

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So the UK government has announced a 50 million pound investment in a limited experiment involving

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seeding clouds that may help in reflecting solar radiation.

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But it's a very small scale thing.

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This is under the heading of a program called ARIA and the head of it told the Guardian,

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quote, having spoken to hundreds of researchers, we reached the conclusion that a critical

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missing part of our research was real world physical data.

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These would show us whether any of these potential approaches would actually work and what their

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effects would be.

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Modeling and indoor studies are essential as prerequisites, but can only tell us so

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much.

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In this instance, Alex is completely full of shit about this being about like poisoning

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people with chemtrails or whatever, but I'm kind of on his side in terms of opposition

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to this kind of program.

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The argument for these types of studies and programs is that climate change is happening

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and we aren't making the required adjustments to our emissions.

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So a geoengineering project that could help manage the rising solar radiation, it could

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buy us the time to make the cuts that we need to make.

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However, a lot of climate scientists oppose these kinds of initiatives because they view

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them as being a distraction and basically like trying to rearrange deck chairs on the

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Titanic.

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If we aren't going to make the cuts now, this is only going to delude us into thinking that

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maybe we can get away with not making them ever, which can be a dangerous trap to fall

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into.

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As someone who's not a real expert on this subject, I kind of lean towards that perspective,

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so I'm slightly opposed to this kind of geoengineering.

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Not because I think it's wrong or evil, but because it seems like it could have a pacifying

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effect on making real change.

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So Alex, this is a weird place where Alex and I maybe have like in the appearance of

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some agreement, but we actually totally disagree.

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This is one of the worst experiences of déjà vu I think I've ever had.

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I feel like I've existed in this very conversation before.

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So I'll say what I remember saying if I had said it before, which is, buddy, that shit

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ain't happening.

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What we got to do is throw all the spaghetti at the wall because none of this cut shit

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is happening.

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None of that shit is happening.

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Throw away hope for any of that.

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And I think that's a totally valid argument too.

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I don't think it's wrong to do these kinds of studies, but I think to think that's going

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to buy us time, which is a lot of the mentality that people have, I think that that's kind

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of...

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Yeah.

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I think it's both wrong.

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The cuts aren't going to happen, so get rid of your hope on that.

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And buying us time isn't going to happen.

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Get out of here.

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Figure out a way to just control the air.

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That's what you got to do.

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Well, good luck with that.

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Step it up, science.

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As for Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum received a whistleblower letter alleging that

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he and his wife had misused WEF funds.

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A lot of the allegations are rich people, business as usual kind of corrupt dealings,

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like getting massages with WEF money or his wife planning WEF meetings strategically so

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she could justify travel.

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It's not good stuff, but when Alex has accused him of being a mastermind who just tried to

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kill most of the world with a virus and make everyone else eat bugs, it's kind of weak

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stuff.

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One of the allegations is a bit more serious, though.

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From The Guardian, quote, the letter also accused Schwab of manipulating the WEF Global

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Competitiveness Report in order to curry favor with certain governments.

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The publication ranks countries based on criteria such as education, infrastructure, labor market

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and health systems and is a point of reference for the annual Davos meeting.

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At this point, this is just an allegation, but if Schwab was doing that, he's a real

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piece of shit.

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Not the comic book villain Alex tries to make him out to be, but definitely someone who

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is putting personal interest over the good of the world while pretending to run an organization

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that was about increasing the good in the world.

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The news here is that the WEF Board of Trustees unanimously agreed to an investigation into

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the allegations that were made in the letter.

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It's not criminal investigation, it's the board.

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Keep in mind, this board includes Al Gore, the Queen of Jordan, the head of the World

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Bank, the CEO of BlackRock and legendary cellist YoYo Ma.

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All of these people are, like, they're interested in launching this investigation.

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All of them are huge villains in Alex's world.

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So he can't possibly think that this is a positive development.

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He can't think like, oh, we got him.

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The best he can do is like, they're cannibalizing Schwab.

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Yeah.

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YoYo Ma just released a new album.

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So this could have something to do with it.

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He needs headlines.

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You think this is Buzz Market?

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Are you looking for YoYo Ma's new cello album?

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I mean, I think it's a Stravinsky.

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So like, come on, man, you're gonna need help selling that shit.

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Have you listened to the album?

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Um, no, but I haven't.

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You need to check if there's a hidden track that's like a real like, hit em up kind of

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diss track on Schwab.

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I was, no, I got the record and I'm about to listen to it.

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And before I put it on, I had to do something.

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And so I haven't gotten back to it.

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But there was a moment where I was like, YoYo Ma, good for you, buddy.

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Who would have seen that?

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It's like the, it's like that, uh, tenor guy, the opera singer that ever...

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Pavarotti?

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Pavarotti, yeah.

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Like, how do those guys penetrate the major consciousness?

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And we all know him.

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Well, I think...

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But it happens.

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I think that, uh, YoYo Ma, first of all, in addition to being like a philanthropist and

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a amazing musician, he also, didn't he do an album with Bobby McFerrin?

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Is that what happened?

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I think so.

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I think that broke into a little bit of like mainstream...

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Right, right, right.

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Spread it about.

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I gotcha.

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I associate that in my head.

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I haven't.

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Could be.

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So the third story here is about food additives being banned.

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And this is about the FDA announcing that they were planning to quote, phase out eight

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synthetic food dyes, hopefully by the end of 2026.

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However, there's no enforcement mechanism for this and no law was passed.

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The FDA just announced that they were working with the HHS to ask industry to not use these

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synthetic dyes and expressing that they wanted to fast track the approval of four new natural

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color additives.

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Alex said there were 10,000 chemicals that were just banned, but the actual number is

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zero.

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Nothing was banned.

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The closest this press release gets to saying that they actually want to revoke authorization

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for anything is about orange B and citrus red number two.

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These two things, they said they express like an intention to revoke.

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These are trouble.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Alex's coverage of this is bullshit, but on a deeper level, he should not be in favor

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of the FDA banning a ton of chemicals.

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At most, he should think it's a state's rights decision, but he probably shouldn't even have

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that position based on how hostile he is toward any regulation of the supplement industry.

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He really is on thin ice.

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Yeah, that's trouble.

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Going to screw himself over with these positions.

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Okay.

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So imagine where he's just embellishing and we are here.

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How many addictive and toxic chemicals do you need before you say we've got too many?

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He's throwing 10,000 around.

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I feel like that's just too many.

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It's way more than is necessary.

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Yeah, but I mean, even if you've got like 50, 51 is too many.

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You don't need that many.

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Right?

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What are these people doing making all these addictive and toxic chemicals?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I think that if you really want to lead this crusade against toxic chemicals and the food

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and stuff like that, a real great place you should start is probably cigarettes.

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Right?

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Probably.

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Because they're real bad for health.

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They are real bad for health.

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If you want to say that these food dyes are bad, you're going to have a tough time proving

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that they're worse than cigarettes.

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It is going to be hard.

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It is going to be very hard.

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So you should try that.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, these are the news headlines.

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And we move on to Alex talking a bit about how Trump is basically...

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He's describing Trump in a way that sounds downright...

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Messianic?

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No.

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No socialist.

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Oh!

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Interesting.

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He's got a tree by its roots.

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Elon Musk has 15 children.

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And then they try to spit it and say, oh, it's not very Christian conservative.

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Didn't say he was a Christian.

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He said, we don't need to poison people, depopulate people.

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Humans are good.

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We need more humans.

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He's got 15 children.

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That's money where your mouth is.

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He had one taken and sterilized from him.

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His son pissed him off.

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But look at Trump.

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He's got a major White House initiative with huge tax incentives and other initiatives

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to get people to have more children.

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The left doesn't want you to have children and wants to replace you with dumbed down,

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starving, terrible populations they control.

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White House assesses ways to persuade women to have more children.

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How about an extra on top of it, $5,000 payment?

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How about new increased tax incentives with even bigger tax cuts when you have more children?

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On top of that, oh, it's all being announced.

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How about tax increases on people making a million dollars a year or more?

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And then just get rid of taxes on people making $150,000 or less.

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That's what they're proposing.

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And if you really want to help people, you just get rid of federal taxes on middle-middle

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class, lower-middle class, blue collar.

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I mean, those are the defaults you do.

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Meanwhile, all the corporate publications, oh, it's so great not to have children.

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This is complete insanity.

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Yeah, I don't like it.

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And Alex doesn't mean a single word to this shit.

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If these policies were being suggested by anyone other than Trump, they would be the

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definition of socialism to him.

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Any politician telling you that they would give you these things, they'd be a con artist

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trying to buy your support with promises they would never fulfill.

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Fundamentally, all of this is counter to what Alex is supposed to believe.

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If he thinks the state should reward you for having kids, then why would he ever be opposed

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to social welfare programs that seek to alleviate the financial burden that comes with parenthood?

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For his entire career, he's not believed that that's something that the government should

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do.

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And why should the government penalize you for being successful?

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You want to only tax people who make over a million dollars?

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That sounds like a really good way to make sure people only put in $999,000 worth of

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effort.

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Come on, man.

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Oh, my God.

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You're holding back innovation.

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Oh, my God.

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To be clear, I think that child tax credits and universal pre-K and extended parental

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leave, those are all positive things.

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I think that shifting the tax burden onto the rich is the right thing to do.

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So I don't have a problem with these positions Alex is pretending to support here.

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I just know that he doesn't actually support these things, and neither does Trump.

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Trump is engaged in a very dumb and damaging trade war at the moment, and he's trying to

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distract people from the coming price raises that his tariffs are going to cause.

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People are about to get really mad about the effects of this shit, and acting like the

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tariffs are going to replace taxes is a good way to try and control the narrative.

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There's no tax bill that Trump or his administration is forwarding.

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This is just PR.

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And Alex is essentially a regime PR man, so he's selling his audience this bullshit that's

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directly counter to his alleged political philosophy.

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It's wild, the level to which he's sunk.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they're just lying.

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Just lies.

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Just throwing lies around.

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Well, if you recall, we just, on our last episode, we had that sushi date, and we learned

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that the Alex Jones problem is that sometimes he just makes shit up.

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It does feel like sometimes he just makes shit up, and that is an issue.

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Yeah.

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It's a good thing that we nipped it in the bud.

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Yeah.

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People took care of it.

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Yep.

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So, you know, the left doesn't want you to have kids.

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Of course not.

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And when you don't have kids, you're depressed, and it's not good.

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Is that how that works?

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Sure.

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Okay.

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But Alex has to hedge things a little bit, and just be like, hey, I know some people

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can't have kids.

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You're not bad.

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Right, right, right.

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You're not evil people.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then you look at the people, they are the most unhappy.

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They die earlier.

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They're totally depressed.

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And I'm not saying everybody that doesn't have children is a loser or bad.

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I'm saying statistically.

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You know, there are a lot of men out there that have the love of their life and they

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die.

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Or they get burned.

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They marry a young woman they think is great, and then she takes everything they got.

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And then they're bachelors the rest of their lives.

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What has happened?

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There are a lot of women, same way, get burned by men and decide they don't want to do that.

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Or they can't have children.

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Nobody's judging them.

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In general, though, everything's being incentivized to not have families, and that means not have

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humans.

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You can boil it down to David Hogg, famously, now the DNC chairman, saying, Alex Jones thinks

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it's bad that chemicals in the water are turning frogs gay.

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I think gay frogs is great.

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Well, because you know if the frogs are all gay, what's that mean?

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It means there's no more frogs.

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What about senior frogs?

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And that is the perfect snapshot, microcosm of us.

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And that's what all of this is about.

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Have you not seen Jurassic Park, sir?

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I was going to say, life does not find a way in Alex's estimation.

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So David Hogg is not the head of the DNC.

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And broadly speaking, even if somehow everyone magically became gay overnight, it would not

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mean the extinction of humans.

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Alex doesn't fully understand the whole thing with atrazine and the frogs, but one of the

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things that makes their situation different from ours is that we have science, whereas

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the frogs do not.

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We have labs and IVF, so even if there were no more heterosexuals, which is not a possibility,

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people could still reproduce.

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But anyway, Alex is...

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I do like that he's coming up with ways that you can be decent and not have kids.

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It seems open-minded of him.

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I suppose.

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But he's lying.

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Because they are bad people for not having kids in Alex's philosophy, and they will be

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treated as bad people if Alex's philosophy has allowed dominance.

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But they might be bad people by circumstance.

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Like maybe they got burned.

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Right, but Alex doesn't care.

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No, he's lying.

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That is the Alex Jones problem.

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That does seem to be the case.

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So Alex starts shooting on the United States, talking about how bad we are and how we have

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bad health.

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Is he allowed to do that?

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Yeah, he is.

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Love it or leave it!

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No one else is, but he is.

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Oh, okay.

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R.M.K.

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Jr., a month ago, said, okay, the regulation saying that any chemical a company wants to

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come up with and stick in a food, most of them petrochemical that happen to be highly

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addictive on purpose and very toxic, that are banned everywhere else in the world for

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the lowest live expectancy of any industrialized country, that and other things, we're dead

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last.

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We're dead last.

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Education, live expectancy, disease, everything.

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We're the worst.

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And I would say 2,000 chemicals.

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You know, it's actually, they listed over 10,300 chemicals a few weeks ago and they

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said the liability protection is gone.

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You're not authorized to put that in there.

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The FDA has joined with the HHS secretary.

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And as of yesterday, they gave the press conference.

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It's coming out of the drugs, the food, everything.

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And they're all scrambling to reformulate.

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Good.

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I mean, you want action, sweetheart?

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Get poison out of our food for our children?

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Pay people more of their money to have children?

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All of this is a, Trump is a 170 from the globalist on some of the war stuff and the

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Israel stuff.

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He's anti-war.

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Easy.

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He makes him not really, but a 170.

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And I'll take it.

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I love that we can add 170 as a new number that means nothing.

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Out of 100?

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Yeah.

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No, it's a 170 degrees.

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It's not quite 180.

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Oh, okay.

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It's like 10 degrees off.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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I think if Alex heard someone else talking that way about the United States, he would

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say that they were unpatriotic and America bashing and trying to hurt morale.

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It feels like it.

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And I don't enjoy that.

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I'm fine with it.

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So the FDA is responsible for assessing the safety of new quote, food additives that are

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going to be in commercially available products.

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They're tasked with determining if something poses a risk to consumers.

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However, there's a category of food ingredients called generally regarded as safe ingredients.

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This category includes things like baking soda or flour, just things that we have in

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everything.

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Yeah.

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The food industry self regulates the generally regarded as safe designation and the FDA for

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the most part doesn't get overly involved until there's a problem.

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This has been the hands-off process that the FDA has followed since 1997 and there's a

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lot of concern that the food industry has abused this lenience.

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I think RFK sucks a lot and he shouldn't be anywhere near power, but I don't think that

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a review of the practices around generally regarded as safe foods is a bad idea.

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I have two main issues here though.

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The first is that Alex definitely shouldn't support this.

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It's ridiculous.

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The second is that what RFK wants to do is meaningless and it lacks any kind of teeth.

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Trump and his administration have been targeting the administrative state and trying to force

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government employees out of their jobs.

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Doing full assessments of the long list of food additives that are considered generally

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regarded as safe would take a ton of time, labor, and money, none of which it appears

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the government is interested in spending.

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Beyond that, last year the Supreme Court struck down the Chevron doctrine, which severely

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limited government agencies' ability to set and hold regulations.

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Even if RFK and his HHS ban all of these generally regarded as safe products, which they aren't

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going to do, they will have no enforcement mechanism for it and the Supreme Court that

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Trump has created has disarmed the regulatory agencies that could back this up.

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Getting rid of a bunch of these chemicals in food is probably a good thing to do, or

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at least reexamining many of them, but these people aren't going to do it.

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In order to actually do this, you would need to provide massive funding for the FDA and

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create strong regulation enforcement, and Trump isn't going to do either of those things.

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They're antithetical to their view of how government works.

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I don't know what the point is other than grandstanding.

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It feels, well, okay.

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The point is what it's always been.

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It is make a lot of noise, get people looking over here, and then steal all their money.

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It's very simple, really.

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It's essentially what Alex does, make a lot of noise, get people looking over here, and

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then steal all their money.

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We'll ask these people nicely to not put shit in the food.

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It's always worked in the past.

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And then we'll have a little chat with them and then determine a couple of dyes that we

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can ban that aren't going to hurt the bottom line too much, and have a nice photo op and

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shake hands.

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Is that all that it is?

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It kind of feels like it.

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That is all it is.

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We've heard the introduction of the 170 degrees.

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We've heard 1,000 out of the 100.

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We've heard Alex give a lot of rankings and grades for Trump.

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Not a fan of Nick Lachey, and that's why we haven't heard 98 degrees.

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No, that's true.

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Also, his brother was in that group.

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He was.

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Little known fact.

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I did not know that.

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Still hate that music video where this I promise you, at the end, it's Screech.

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No, I understand that.

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I did not explain that music video well.

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So Alex gives Trump another grade in this next clip, and it's bad.

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It's an F-.

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It's an F-.

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For something very important.

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Oh, that's not good.

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But this is not why I'm playing this clip.

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I'm playing you this clip because it's one of the most disturbing things I've heard Alex

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say probably in at least a year, maybe two years.

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It's very upsetting.

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I have to say in the Trump administration.

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On the front of controlling the border, A+.

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On finding the kids, F-.

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Look at that 90 something days.

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It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

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We've gone out and found them.

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You can find them.

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Everybody else can find them.

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All the other researchers find them.

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Anthony Rubin, the guest we had on yesterday, all of them.

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James O'Keefe.

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I can go in an hour and be in a house full of kids.

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Guaranteed sex slaves.

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We've done it.

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I mean, I'm taking it right now.

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So I mean, there's over a million of them right now.

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It's not 350,000.

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That's just not worth the government to miss.

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So I mean, it'd be harder to find a.

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Valero gas station and sex slaves.

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I mean, I saw something the other day in South Austin.

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And it was so freaky and so weird.

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Valero?

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And I almost did it.

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And I'm just like, I'm kind of at a 35,000 foot view of general.

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And I was like, do generals do that?

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And I've done plenty of that.

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You've seen me try to block the cars full of unaccompanied little kids being thrown

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in hatchbacks.

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I mean, we've done it.

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And I just sat there.

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I took a few pictures.

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And I said, there are about 10 minutes.

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I was like, I'm sure of it.

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You know what you're looking at?

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I was just like, God almighty.

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I mean, they were wearing those like yoga exercise shorts that are all the way up.

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They had their lipstick on all of it.

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I was looking at them.

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I was like, they're both about 14.

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I got three daughters.

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I'm just sitting there.

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Got it on my phone right here.

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I'm like, click, click.

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And I'm like.

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And I said, now don't call 911.

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You won't have the proof.

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I said, do I wait?

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I sat there about 10 minutes.

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They started looking at me on their phone calls of mine.

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They kind of had that, you know, the shady criminal thing.

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They can man.

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They've been this a while.

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And I was just like, put it in reverse and left.

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Sorry.

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I'm digressing.

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You just can't.

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It's just, it's insane.

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So we got a problem.

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I think you do.

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What the fuck was that?

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The only comfort I take in that clip is that I don't believe Alex is telling a true story.

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That's fair.

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I suspect that he saw some young women that he thought were dressed too provocatively

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outside of a gas station.

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And he's trying to come up with a heroic story to explain away how excited he was by it.

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If he's telling the truth and he really did this, he's unsafe to be in public.

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He has no idea how old these women are.

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And his only evidence that they're involved in sex work is that they were dressed in a

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way that he thought was too scantily and that they were on their phone.

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He has no reason to suspect that these were trafficked minors.

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That's all in his head.

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If Alex sat there at the gas station for 10 minutes, took pictures of these young women,

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and considered following them all because of the story he's made up in his head, he's

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seriously dangerous.

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Taking their picture and keeping the picture is in many ways an invasion of these women's

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privacy.

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And the fact that he's kept the pictures and is suggesting that he would show them on his

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show has the potential to very negatively impact them.

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At its core, this is stalker behavior he's displaying.

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Like how he had his head of security, Tim Inlow, fellow his wife around and run people's

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plates who she was hanging out with.

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Kind of on brand for him.

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I don't trust Alex's assessment of a person's dress, so that's not compelling evidence of

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anything.

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The fact that they were on their phone sounds to me like that could have been in response

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to them seeing him stalking them.

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If I were hanging out at a gas station and some dude was staring at me from his car for

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like 10 minutes, I'd probably call someone too.

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Because that dude's probably gonna attack you.

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His story is insane.

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And like I said, the only reason I don't take it very seriously is I think that Alex is

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just making this up to sound like he's a crusading hero to his audience.

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It's so wild that you could imagine that this makes you sound good.

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He sounds like an ambivalent predator.

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That's the way this comes off.

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Also, it should probably be a way bigger deal that Trump is getting an F- on the finding

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the kids front.

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Seems like you should be taking that a little bit harder than you are.

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Well, I mean, it's just in his mind, a million children missing and being trafficked.

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F-, D-, A-.

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It's all the same.

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It's all the same, right?

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I would think it's a deal breaker.

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You would think?

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Yeah.

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You would think real hard about that.

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F- on that one.

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But then, you know what?

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Even, okay, disregarding all of the obvious fucking terrifying behaviors that he is engaging

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in.

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Let's say we are in a serious, they are being trafficked scenario.

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If your justification for leaving them and doing nothing is generals don't intervene,

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you're also a fucking lunatic.

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What?

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That's crazy.

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That's a crazy thing to think in response to this.

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You could think things like, none of my business.

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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Not generals don't intervene.

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What?

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No, because I think that Alex got over that rebuttal.

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I think he realized he's a general, but he does sometimes get involved.

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I think if you actually listen to what he's saying, he is very aware that he knows nothing

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about what's going on.

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He knows that he's making assumptions about these people, and if he were to just hang

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out there and wait or stalk them, they might call the police on him.

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Well, I mean, the obvious thing to do is, if you're Alex Jones, roll the window down,

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and you're like, excuse me, whores, are you okay?

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Is a John coming?

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Can I help you?

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If so, do you need security?

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What can I do to help facilitate this sex work opportunity?

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I used to be a bouncer at a strip club.

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I can help you out.

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If you need physical protection, some men are out there, they're scary out there.

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Maybe I can help you out, but I'm not going to get in your life.

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If you need security, I'm friends with Joe Rogan, who knows people from the UFC.

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They fight a lot.

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I don't think that's probably the way to go, though.

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Nah.

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That story made me feel ill when I heard it, and it's that Alex Jones genre of, if you

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are telling a sincere thing, you are so fucked up.

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And if you're making this up, you're revealing a very fucked up brain.

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You need help, man.

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You need help on so many different levels and ways.

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It's true.

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So Alex, he's talking a lot about RFKs, banning of all of these chemicals.

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And I noticed, like, oh, wait a second.

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This is all just to lead up to an ad.

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The advertising has at least played a factor to that extraordinary revenue stream and disabling

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their capacity or their inclination for skepticism and for critical thinking.

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So Americans don't know what they're eating, and they don't know the implications of those

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things.

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So we have the sickest mitochondria in the world.

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You must have iodine.

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It's essential for mitochondrial, electrochemical generation.

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It is the foundation of it all.

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But what else does incredible things for your mitochondrial system and cleans them

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out and makes them healthier on record?

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The Germans invented it for health and energy.

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You don't even know why it worked.

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The first patented drug ever.

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We don't sell it as that.

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It's a supplement, but methylene blue.

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Why does Robert F. Kennedy take three droppers of it a day?

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By the way, that's triple the dose you're supposed to take.

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So to consult your physician.

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We have the strongest medical grade USP methylene blue, ultramethylene blue at the alishownstore.com.

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Yeah, so there's a very long RFK segment, and it just is leading up to this payoff where

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he's trying to sell the methylene blue.

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And RFK has taken triple dose of methylene blue.

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Look at that man.

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Nobody looks healthier than him.

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He does not look like he's about to fall apart like a skeleton at any given moment.

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Do you want to be good at pranks that are very funny and very cool?

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Take methylene blue?

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That works.

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So yeah, that was a little bit deflating, I think.

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Realizing that this might as well have all been an infomercial.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's one long, we're going to have to put a clock on this.

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So Alex has a guest on, and this guest I found a little bit shocking.

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This is a person named Kathy O'Brien.

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Have you ever heard of her?

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No.

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Okay, we'll talk about her in a minute.

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So at the beginning of their interview, Alex tried to play it off like they didn't really

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know each other.

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And so this was a problem.

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When you and I met 30 years ago, I was speaking out on my daughter's behalf.

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Not only was she born into MK Ultra Mind Control and exposed to the same military DARPA and

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NASA MK Ultra Mind Control programming that I was, but she was then thrust into the corrupted

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so-called child protective services.

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And when that happened, I was speaking out because by then I had gained my free thought,

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my free speech, and it was love for her that compelled me to speak out.

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And it was that long ago when you and I first met.

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And my gosh, look at the world of change that has happened since those days and the

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world of change that has yet to happen because we have got to get this problem stopped.

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Absolutely.

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And just for people that don't know, when I first read your book, it had to be 30, 31

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years ago, because I was just kidding on air.

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And I had a lot of knowledge, but it was about you guys with a beta test and it was meant

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to externalize into the total culture takeover of mass mind control.

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And a lot of this was already come out in hearings and things, but the tens of thousands

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of kids on record that the CIA funded grabbed in Canada, the US, and some were taken from

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their parents, some grabbed, some of the parents were working with them.

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It was coming out of the Pentagon, the CIA, and then using these children for couriers,

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for spies, creating artificial, multiple personalities, electroshock, chemicals, literal

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mind control, Manchurian candidates.

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So that's not just a movie with Frank Sinatra.

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Imagine with children, that's where you can really do it.

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And then now, as I learn more and more, it was 100% real, 100% dead on.

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And your book today, because I just reread it last year, is not evergreen, but ultra-green

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in that it is more powerful than ever.

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And the film, which I need to see, and I want to talk about your film, I need to see that.

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People need to see that.

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So as soon as I heard Kathy mention knowing Alex in the past, I knew that he would immediately

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have to respond to that and explain how they could have been in contact before because

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he tried to play a game early in the episode where he was saying he was going to have Kathy

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on.

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I read her book decades ago and the claims are so sensational in them, I just couldn't

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believe them.

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But now that he's learned more, everything that she said is proven and documented and

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all this stuff.

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The idea is supposed to be that even he thought she was nuts back in the day, but now he sees

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the light.

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That game is kind of disrupted if they actually had met and were working together back in

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the old days when he was supposed to think she was nuts, so Alex has to jump in there

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to try and right the ship.

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And that's what you can see in that clip.

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There's a reason why this matters that may not be readily apparent to folks who haven't

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spent a lot of time in the conspiracy community.

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If you've taken in a lot of this content, you already definitely know who Kathy O'Brien

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is and you already have a pretty set opinion of her.

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She's made a ton of wild claims over the years and provided no evidence for any of it, so

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a lot of people in the truth-seeking world don't really have a high opinion of her.

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She's been someone who's been around forever and her basic story is that she was a MK Ultra

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abuse survivor and was owned by Gerald Ford, among other things.

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She's kind of like an MK Ultra Steve Pacenik.

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Was she an MK Ultra though?

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I don't think there's ever been any evidence that has shown that.

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There's a reason that Alex pretended not to know Kathy and hasn't had her on regularly,

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and that's because the pre-Trump audience Alex had would see it as embarrassing for

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him to be interviewing her.

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Alex having her on is kind of a signal that whatever standards he used to pretend to uphold

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her out the window, so he has to be kind of defensive about having this booking.

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Kathy's done hundreds of interviews, so it's not like this is a get for him or anything,

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and all of her claims have been widely discussed in conspiracy circles for the past 30 years.

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Over the years, Alex has gotten a lot of calls about Kathy and he's shockingly consistent

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in his response.

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He's usually very quick to move along, being sure to say that he can't prove anything that

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she's saying, so he doesn't want to get involved.

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The kind of, hey, I'm not going to say it's bullshit, but I'm very hesitant to sign off

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on any of this.

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But then came Trump.

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In 2016, Alex realized that there was a way that he could use Kathy, and he was pretty

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explicit about it on air.

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I'm going to play a few of these clips, play a couple minutes from a Kathy O'Brien interview

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that she did 15 plus years ago.

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She's been on this broadcast a long time ago.

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You know, she says that Hillary Clinton raped and abused her, and I know that Hillary has

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a very shorted, twisted past.

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A lot of credible people have asked me to have her on, so I'm looking to do that, but

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that's coming up here in a few minutes.

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You know, they're having people with no proof, absolutely no proof.

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You know, come on, make up all these wild things about Trump.

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So I never really went there with O'Brien, but you want us to, you want to play by those

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rules, we will.

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Alex was mad about what he viewed as baseless sexual assault claims being made against Trump,

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and he thought, I know someone who can make some baseless sexual assault claims.

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This is a man who wants to cynically exploit this woman, who he's intentionally avoided

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being associated with for years.

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Because he could use her to attack Hillary, Alex warmed up a bit to Kathy, but he still

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wasn't going to have her on the show.

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She was too well-known a character in the conspiracy world, and giving her too much

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credibility meant that you weren't too interested in evidence.

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Alex, having her on is a symbolic act of him declaring that he doesn't care about pretending

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for that old conspiracy audience anymore at all.

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She's going to say some inflammatory shit, and maybe he can get some clickbait for Twitter

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out of it, and that's really all that matters.

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Like I find it difficult to put this exactly into words, like how much this is a really

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subtle but profound thing to have her on.

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It's like him having Mark Richards on.

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Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, I would almost feel like, what, wistful?

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I mean, there's a way to look at it as him being forced back into his early days.

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He was here, and then he rose, and then he's fallen, and now he's here again with Kathy

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O'Brien, and she's pretty much stayed at the exact same place the entire time, right?

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So maybe there's something to be sad about, man.

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You're back at your roots now.

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Start over.

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I think of this as more the erosion of Alex's pretend standards.

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You know, it's the same thing where those old clips of him talking about how David Icke

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is the turd in the punch bowl and stuff like that.

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It's just like, oh, you've let yourself drop from whatever pretense you had of caring.

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Back in the day, he's like, I don't talk about alien stuff.

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Only things I can prove.

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Yeah.

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You know, that wasn't true then, but it was a good image, and that image has fallen apart.

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I would say, right, I agree with you.

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To me, it's a little bit professional wrestling, you know?

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There's gonna be a split, and there's gonna be a cut back together.

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These dumdums hate each other, and then they get on the same stage together all the time,

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you know?

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Like, they're a bunch of idiots.

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I don't think that he and Kathy work together too closely, but he was circling her more

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than he wants to.

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Now it's right on into the castle gates together.

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Yeah.

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We both are fighting demons.

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Yep.

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All right.

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Fun.

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Fun.

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So Alex is gonna take some calls with Kathy, and I found this to be a weird thing that

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he says.

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I was about to say, I mean, you've been exposed to this a lot.

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I actually went through it, but we got very slow movement now.

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Now things are rushing, and lights speak imperatively, so people that are just now waking up, I get

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you.

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What is it?

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Results?

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We're getting things way faster.

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Praise God.

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Stay right there.

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You've agreed to stay to the next hour.

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We're also gonna take some calls.

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Be respectful, folks, and serious questions here, which I know we're gonna give.

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This is what he's amazing.

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I've been through a lot.

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You get to talk to, really, the ultimate whistleblower, all confirmed, amazing information.

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Get her book at trans-formation.com.

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You must read it.

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I think Alex is being preemptively defensive, because I think he has a suspicion that some

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callers are going to be like, what are you doing?

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He doesn't get any of those calls.

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I think a fair amount of that is because he only takes a few, and they're screened.

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But yeah, I think he has every reason to think this could go bad.

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Eh, it doesn't.

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I wonder where these guys are with their whole standards thing, because there's gotta be

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a confusion for all of these dum-dums, even Tucker and all this stuff, of how far can

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we really go with this?

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People seem to be coming along a long way, and a lot farther than maybe we ever even

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imagined we could get to.

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And it feels like we haven't found the bottom yet.

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Tucker got attacked by a demon.

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Right?

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We could go fucking anywhere now.

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Just on the table.

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Tucker got up in front of a crowd of people and said, daddy's home.

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Right?

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Talking about Trump getting re-elected.

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What do we have to do?

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Daddy's home and he wants to give you a spanking.

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I think at a certain point there's a morbid fascination that some of them have to have

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of just like, is there anything I could do to get stopped?

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Is there anything these people won't accept?

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I would want to find out.

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Right?

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I mean, Tucker could be sitting around hitting the bong and then just being like, I'm going

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to fuck around and turn Alex Jones into a prophet.

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Absolutely.

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Let's do it.

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No one's going to stop me.

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Who's going to stop me?

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No one.

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See, we're worried if we can.

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We have to ask if we should.

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No, I don't give it too late.

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Should has gone way out the window.

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Now it's all about can.

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So Alex avoided association with Kathy for many, many years and then wanted to trot her

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out in order to make baseless accusations against Hillary in order to play defense for

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accusations against Trump.

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Always fun.

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But that didn't happen either.

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But now it's very clear what he wants to use her for.

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And that is anti-LGBTQ propaganda.

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She's going to take some phone calls coming up about 15, 20 minutes.

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We're specifically talking about MK ultra mind control.

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The externalization of the trans movement, the left openly sexualization of children.

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They're making their move and humanity's fighting back.

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And the public and private schools, the big grants literally trying to cut your children

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away from you and put them in a cult and not tell the parents.

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I mean, this is beyond evil and it's hiding in plain view and it's all over the world.

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Drag queen story time from Australia to the U.S. funded by BlackRock convicted pedophiles

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many cases, men dressed like clowns saying they're a woman, little kids being put on

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their laps.

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I mean, this is just the quote, LGBT parades would like the kids like captured slaves marching

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at the front holding flags.

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I mean, this is truly satanic.

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All these different choirs, the San Francisco choir, we're coming for your kids.

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We're grooming them.

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We'll get them.

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You'll never stop us.

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Texas legislature a month ago had these people testifying.

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We need access to your children.

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Give us your children.

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We're here to groom them.

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They are out in the open.

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They are making their move.

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Kathy O'Brien is our guest.

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Toll free number to join us.

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877-789-2539, 877-789-2539, 877-789.

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Alex, and remember, all over the country now, the private big hospitals give a form at birth

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with dozens of names.

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Your child's gay.

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They're trans.

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They're queer, whatever.

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They're all these terms as if the baby can choose.

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But no, now the parents choose.

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This is what Alex wants to use Kathy for now.

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She's a high profile child abuse survivor, and Alex wants to use her story to demonize

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LGBTQ folk.

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It's very clear, and he should be ashamed.

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It's garbage.

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All those things he's saying are just nonsense we've discussed in the past, but that last

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part, the one with the birth certificate, that's new.

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Alex is misreporting a story from New Jersey where a new parent was asked on a form they

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had to fill out what the gender identity and sexual orientation of their baby was.

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It wasn't on the child's birth certificate, but you can kind of see how this is still

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a bit weird.

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In 2021, New Jersey passed a law that required hospitals to collect more demographic information

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from patients, ostensibly in an effort to provide better care.

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As a part of following that state law, at least one medical company, Inspira Health,

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created a form that asked parents for this information about their newborn children.

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There are a thousand articles that have been written about this form, and New Jersey Republicans

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have been making a big deal out of it, but it seems to me like all of these stories trace

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back to this Inspira Health company.

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From everything I can tell, this was a well-meaning piece of legislation that was taken too literally

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by this one healthcare company to the point where they were collecting demographic information

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that's kind of ridiculous.

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These hospitals don't need to be asking for a baby's sexual orientation or gender identity,

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but it's clear what the intention of this legislation is, and that's what Alex is attacking.

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He just wants LGBTQ folk to feel stigmatized and unwelcome in public, and yeah, the form

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is a little silly.

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It's not cause for the things that he's trying to justify.

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No, no, no, but you know, you've got good intentions and then you do some dumb shit

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like this, and here we are.

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It's a mess.

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And I feel conflicted about Kathy too, because I haven't thought about her in a long time.

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She was a figure that I was well aware of when I would go and read conspiracy blogs

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and stuff like that back in the day.

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And my feeling on it is I think there's probably some trauma there.

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I don't know what it is.

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I don't believe that she was owned by Gerald Ford.

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And I don't have necessarily reason to believe a lot of the stories.

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But I don't want to shit on her too much.

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But at the same time, she's expressing opinions.

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She's going right along with Alex's demonization.

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It's not like Alex is completely hijacking her shit.

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She's a complicit participant in it.

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I mean, I think it really does kind of halfway come down to the whole MK Ultra thing.

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So Ken Kesey's in MK Ultra, and then he gets on a bus and starts freaking people out, giving

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them LSD.

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These things make sense, right?

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That follows.

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Right.

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And then you do the books, and then you run away to Mexico.

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Of course you do, because that's what happens when the government tries to mind control

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you.

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Right?

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You know?

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Now, it's reasonable behavior to then do that.

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If he wasn't in the government mind controlling you thing, that shit's crazy.

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That's crazy behavior.

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That's not okay.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I think if you aren't in a government program and you just take a ton of drugs,

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you might go and try and freak people out too.

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Sure, absolutely.

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Hunter S. Thompson wasn't in the MK Ultra, and he was a fucking weirdo.

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Yeah, but he was a fucking weirdo.

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He wasn't a guy who was in a government mind control program and then did all of this stuff,

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you know?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And Unabomber.

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Sure.

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There's probably a number of people we don't know their names.

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They might have gone on to live fairly boring lives.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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You don't know.

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But we don't know.

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Anyway, I don't know what her story is, and I don't want to shit on her.

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Yeah, I get it.

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I find it repulsive, this whole thing.

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And I think it's indicative of a backslide that Alex is experiencing with whatever I

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can do for attention.

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Anything.

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It doesn't matter.

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Yeah, I agree.

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So we jump to the 24th.

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And this show starts with what I would describe as a half an hour of Alex rambling about a

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new James O'Keefe video.

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About how they have uncovered definitive evidence of coup plots within the government.

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It is uncompelling.

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And it is just trying to justify Trump cracking down on anyone, any opposition to him at all.

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Throw him in a prison.

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Just stalling it.

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Get rid of those people in the photographs.

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You don't need them anymore.

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Yeah.

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It is exhausting.

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I was listening to this episode and I'm like, this is just nothing.

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I thought we were done with O'Keefe.

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Wasn't he in jail or some shit?

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No, he got forced out of Veritas.

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Right.

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Because he was doing like musicals and stuff with company money.

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And I think they said, enough of this.

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I don't want you.

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We're not paying for your DJ equipment.

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That's fair.

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And all this.

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And so he got forced out of that and then he started his own thing.

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I think he was incorporated with Tucker somehow, but that might be a little bit more distant

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now.

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I don't know.

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He's just still doing his stings.

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I never thought I would get here.

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Like if you had told me when I was young and reading this particular book, I would never

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have been like, well, obviously we're going to get to this place someday.

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Yeah.

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If you see the Acorn video, like back in the day, James O'Keefe dressed up like a pimp

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and all that stuff, you're never going to be like, we're still going to be hearing about

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this guy in 15 years.

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So when I was reading the Scarlet letter, right, I'm looking at Hester Prynne and I'm

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going, that's wrong.

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They shouldn't have done that shit.

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But now I'm living in a James O'Keefe continues world.

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And I'm like, man, we got a brand, some assholes, big old a right on top of his head.

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Asshole.

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You're talking about an inglorious bastard.

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Listen, Hey, it is what it is.

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Everybody gets to make their own choices.

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So I was wading through this water and I was like, there's not much in this here pond.

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And then Alex starts talking about Elon Musk's family.

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Great.

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And so a lot of powerful people that were just going along with the system, doing their

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projects that were overall moral, but had to have the approval of the globalist even

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run their industries and services, realize there was no more room to coexist with Satan.

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Cause there's never room to coexist.

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You're being put into a trap.

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And it got so bad that a lot of people from the grassroots up went, Whoa.

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I mean, Elon Musk, one of the most powerful people in the world, even at the time, one

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of the richest.

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Steering COVID is nine, 10 year old son with the baby mama wants to go to this elite school.

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He doesn't know.

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He says, sure.

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He had no idea.

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They put him in a cult brainwash and tell him he's a girl.

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Tell him, Hey, your dad never talked to him again on purpose.

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Then that was a head they were getting.

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It was, it was a mounting it on the wall.

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It was a, it was a cult victory.

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And Musk came and said, Hey, stop, this is wrong.

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Let me see my son.

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And they just laughed at him.

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And then he looked around and saw his brother and his crew getting really sick and dying

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from the shots.

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And then he looked around and he said, it's really this evil.

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It's really this bad.

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He was always for more people.

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He was always for prosperity.

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He was always pro-human, but he didn't, you know, he thought Alex Jones was extreme.

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He thought it was a little exaggerated.

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Then he found out.

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No.

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People are so evil and so arrogant.

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They thought they could take his child as a prize.

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So Alex is talking about Musk's daughter, Vivian here.

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And it's interesting to note how Alex doesn't know any of the details of her story, but

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has chosen to write his own version in order to hero worship Musk.

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Alex is saying that Vivian was nine or 10 during COVID, which isn't true.

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She was 16 in 2020, when she became more public about her gender identity.

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He's been very public about how much of a piece of shit Elon is and how he's lying about

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her.

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She said, quote, he doesn't know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn't

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there.

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And in the little time that he was, I was relentlessly harassed for my femininity and

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queerness.

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Alex is making up basic details about this story and lying about it in order to enable

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and glorify Musk's abusive parenting.

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And that sucks.

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Yeah.

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Sucks a lot.

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I can honestly say that I don't give a shit what this guy believes about families, about

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children, about any of that stuff.

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Why he thinks having 15 of them is a good idea when he could feed every orphan in the

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world 20 million times over.

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So he obviously doesn't give a fuck about children and he can go fuck himself.

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Well, look, what good is food if comedy is illegal?

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I mean, make all orphans your kids.

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Now you're the most have kids guy ever.

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You can pay for all their shit and you will parent them an equal amount.

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Can you imagine what Alex would do with Elon Musk's buying up all the kids?

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Adopt all children.

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Elon Musk owns all children now.

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All unwanted for children live with Elon Musk and are paid for by him.

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See, this introduces the can God create a boulder so large he can't pick it up kind

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of thing.

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Right.

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Could Elon Musk pull that off and keep Alex on board?

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Or is it just too good of a conspiracy?

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He's buying up all the children.

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He's buying all the children.

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How could you not though?

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Like how insane do you have to be to genuinely be like, oh, I need to have 15 kids to populate

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the earth, but feeding all of the orphans on this fucking planet.

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It's crazy.

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It's missing the forest for the trees a little bit.

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So Alex is in a mood and it's probably because he's probably about to go out of business.

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But he spends a bit of time ranting about how they've made a lot of successes.

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They won a lot against the globalists, but a lot of people just don't have the stomach

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to land the killing blow.

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And that's what they need to do.

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They just need to kill them.

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Now we have to have the courage to finish the job, to deal the blow, to finish them.

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And there are people scared.

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Oh, we can't court-martial three-star generals.

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Oh, we can't court-martial high-level officers.

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Oh, we can't indict FBI agents for treason.

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Oh, but you can shoot the populist president and try to kill him at his golf course in

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Pennsylvania.

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Oh, you can kidnap our kids and chop them up.

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Oh, you can human traffic a million kids over the border that disappeared.

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Oh, you can start World War III.

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See, the consequences of letting them continue on are a trillion times a trillion infinity

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worse than whatever the consequences are for the men that have got to do what must be done.

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I have no fear of what they can do to me or my family, because they're all destroyed anyways

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if this thing wins.

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I only have fear of failure.

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And if you realize the power you had, and if you simply stepped into that office that

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God has created for you, that agency of God's will to go do God's will to fight evil, to

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expose evil, you will be as bold as a lion.

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I have no fear.

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It's a distant memory.

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I've not had fear in 30 years.

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All I have is determination and anger at the idea of failure.

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I don't fear failure.

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I am angry at failure.

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I am enraged that I'm not strong enough, that my oratory skill and my mind cannot transmit

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the total truth to you so that you would know you have no choice but to fight these people.

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If you saw your supposed choice, you would know there was no choice at all.

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But people out of fear and laziness think, what do you do?

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Well, it's all of us doing little things together, isn't it?

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I'll go to break.

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I'll come back with a deep dive on the ongoing coop, and I'll try to do a recap.

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It's quick for everybody.

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We can get out on the X, because everybody can't sit around for an hour.

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You can sit around for three hours, watch a football game or a baseball game, but how

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do they come up with that?

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We got stuff to do.

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I mean, there's a game on tonight.

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Yeah, well.

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You know we're all being slowly killed right now, right?

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I would argue that people are more likely to watch football than listen to Alex's show,

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because Alex's show sucks.

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He's an angry dipshit getting lost in his own feelings and vomiting his fantasies into

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a mic.

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Even if you don't think he's full of shit, it would be difficult to listen to the show,

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and imagine that you're getting any benefit out of it.

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Just look at Twitter and imagine what the angriest response you could have to a tweet

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is, and you've saved yourself some time.

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It's as good as it gets.

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What Alex is saying in that clip is the kind of thing that you can imagine being played

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in a historical documentary tracking the rise of an authoritarian ruler.

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He's straight up just saying that Trump needs to seize all power and jail his political

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enemies, and that some people don't have the stomach for that kind of show of strength.

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They aren't man enough to do what needs to be done.

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And that frustrates Alex, because as he's displaying in that clip, he's done all the

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work for them.

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He's helped create a bunch of the narratives that they can use to justify why Trump doing

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dictator shit is good.

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He's laying out all of these things.

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Oh, it's fine to shoot at Trump.

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Oh, it's fine to smuggle a million people across the border.

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He's laying out his, like, run with this.

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I've done it.

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Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

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I've given you the bricks.

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Make the wall.

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Make the building.

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That's good stuff.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh.

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Like to listen to it, you know?

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I like to...

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Here's what I would say, right?

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First off, it's always good whenever all the dumbest people get rid of all the competent

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people in their organization.

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They tend to run them great after that.

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So that's always good to look forward to.

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And then second, I would like to have a summer stock with Alex's Henry V. I would like to

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hear his St. Crispin's Day speech.

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It is.

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He was doing a little of the theater in that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He was on the boards.

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I would like to see him try and improvise his way through a half-remembered St. Crispin's

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Day speech.

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I think it would still be stirring.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it would have an interesting and novel take on it.

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Yeah.

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As long as he gave him a little apple juice.

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Well, I think that's the theater, my friend.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't think he's gonna be good at improvising that sober.

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Yeah, I imagine so.

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So Alex is like...

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I think he started declaring independence.

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Okay.

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I feel like...

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Up for that?

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I think that's where this is.

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And then it just becomes clear that it's like, oh man, he actually thinks he's going out

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of business.

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Oh.

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Where as populace?

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Where as the people?

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Where as the elected government?

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Where as the legitimate people?

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We just accept that they do this to us.

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And to our children.

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And to our bodies.

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And to our minds.

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Well, I'm done accepting it.

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And I'm not here.

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And my family's not here.

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And you're not here to be shed all over by these demons.

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All right, we're going to break.

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Whew.

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Whew.

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Please share the live feed.

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Critical information coming up from Alex Jones.

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I'd say share it from mfaultwars.com.

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We can be shut down as early as next Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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We've survived a lot of stuff, but this is court final judgment stuff.

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This is...

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It didn't...

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They've so discredited themselves it's hilarious.

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It is what it is.

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But the great news is they don't own the alexjonesstore.com.

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That's our sponsor.

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They don't own the Alex Jones Network because I don't own it.

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They can't get it.

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And all the other stuff that's been built that you don't even know about.

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And what's funding it is that URL right there and you going to it.

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The alexjonesstore.com.

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And everybody should become a VIP when you get the ultramethylene blue that I got on

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my hands because I took some of it earlier.

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Hard to wash off.

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That's a good sales pitch.

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Yeah, that's great to know.

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That stames.

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It stains your skin.

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I will look like I just robbed a bank all the time.

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Cool.

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Alright.

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I just punched a smurf.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So yeah, I don't know.

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I think...

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I find this a little bit more convincing than times in the past where he seemed bummed out.

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And I think it's because it goes on.

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He's in this funk for this episode.

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And I mean, basically what he's expressing is I've run out.

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I've run out of moves.

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There is no other...

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The Connecticut Supreme Court ruled that they're not going to hear my appeal.

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I don't have anything left to do.

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There's no more kicks for the can down the road.

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And I think that he's just saying that pretty much openly.

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But let me just give you a quick update first on M4s and its future.

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I know that everybody's gotten a little lackadaisical, including me and the crew.

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And I don't mean we're laying around and we're bad.

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We have been through seven years of law fair and attacks and dirty tricks of every type.

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And groups coming in with armed security being ordered to close the doors by the Justice

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Department through the bankruptcy with no court order.

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I said no, didn't leave.

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People couldn't believe they did it.

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Then it was admitted in the news and court had happened.

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It's insane.

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I know.

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It's hard to believe.

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And then they had a fake auction, the Bloomberg financed Onion, satirical communist publication.

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That all got shot down because it was illegal.

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I told you that would happen.

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But now they've got a final judgment out of Connecticut with their show trial.

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And it's 20 days after that judgment that they're able to bring it to Texas.

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And they already have a turnover order with Guerra Gamble that ran the show trial.

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And under Texas law, it wasn't even supposed to go to her to decide that.

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It's supposed to get rotated and it's randomly picked.

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Yeah, right, out of hundreds of judges, she gets picked again.

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She's already said grab everything.

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So but anytime Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I expect them to come quickly.

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They are going to try to come in here.

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And when they come with a court order with the sheriff, I'm going to say, hey, how you

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doing?

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They're going to either grab all the equipment or they can just put a sticker on the door

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and say get out.

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It varies how they do it.

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And I'm not going to resist them being friendly.

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They're just doing their job delivering something about their fault.

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It's corrupt system and judge and all that.

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So if anything else, hey, we got some coffee in here fresh.

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And then we basically already gotten our stuff out.

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Even my sports jackets and stuff, I just keep at home now instead of here.

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Got a few more things to get out.

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Lamentos on the walls.

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Dear I shot 30 years ago.

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There's a few things mounted on the wall.

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A few things we got to get out.

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He sounds done.

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I mean, when you're taking a deer off the wall.

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That's kind of a big deal.

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Yeah.

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This is this does feel to me like a resignation.

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You know, like I got nothing else to do.

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I thought that Supreme Court thing was going to hang a little bit longer or maybe they

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would actually hear the case.

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I could grandstand during that.

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We could buy a bunch of time and you know.

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But it's not going to happen.

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It's going to go back to the Texas courts and they're not.

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They're going to take my shit.

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Yeah.

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So hopefully that it seems like there are not many impediments left.

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I mean, you know, we felt that way many times.

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I no longer I no longer anticipate.

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I just if it happens, it happens.

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If it doesn't, it doesn't.

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Yeah.

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You know, it is what it is.

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I agree with that perspective not to get overly like aha this time.

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You can't deny his mood.

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It's a bad mood.

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It's a bad mood.

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The man lives in bad mood, but it's not an angry, bad mood.

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It's like boat sunk.

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What you going to do?

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Fuck it.

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I mean, I do.

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I do like the literal embodiment of the problem with what is happened, which is like, well,

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they're going to take everything next week.

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So I'm going to take everything first.

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And then when they get here, there will be nothing here.

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Obviously, obviously I'm going to do that.

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What am I stupid?

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Well, but I think in this case, it's actually like fine because it's probably not like company

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assets that he's writing.

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It's not like he's taking the servers.

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Right.

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Right.

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Although he might be exactly giving them to Alex Jones.

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That's the problem show.

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Dot org or whatever the fuck his new show is.

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Right.

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He totally doesn't own.

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Right.

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It is not that he is taking everything or whatever.

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It's that I don't know what he's taking and I do know he is taking something that he should

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not have.

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Yeah.

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But if it's, if it's deer heads and sport coats, that's not a big deal.

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I want those too.

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That's the point.

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That's the point of consequences for his actions.

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I want it all.

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I want everything.

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I've seen his sport coats.

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I'm not interested.

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I don't want them.

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I want to burn them.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Take it up with the Texas courts.

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I'll see what I can do.

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So when you're in a bad mood and you're down and you think that your ship has sunk, what

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do you do?

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Ice cream?

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No.

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Oh.

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Interview someone who's arguably a bigger loser than you.

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Oh, that sounds actually smart.

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So Alex has Canadian politician, Maxime Bernier on.

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Max Bernier is our guest and I'm, everybody knows who he is now.

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I've been following him for years, but he's been doing a great job on all the big podcasts

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and shows here getting around the censorship.

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And there's a big election coming up next week in Canada.

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So it's very, very important that people understand what's happening.

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I've also seen the criticisms, Max, that like you brought up when you were here three weeks

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ago, that, oh, you're going to make the conservatives loose.

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Well, when you look at what they actually do, it's the same thing, just different rhetoric.

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So justice be done, may the heavens fall.

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It's like AFD keeps losing but winning more and more.

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And now they're set to win massively in the next election way ahead.

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And their policies are being adopted by the other conservative party just to try to survive.

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That's victory.

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You're a leader.

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You're not trying to conform to the globalist.

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So they'll let you in their party when you are the guy that kept getting voted to be

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the leader.

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But they wouldn't let people have it for those that don't know over and over again years

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ago, that's why you left the party.

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And so you've gone out to reform things as a leader and build a real populist conservative

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party.

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I think I've recaptured stance in the real history there.

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But that's why I'm supporting you over the other so-called conservative.

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So there's a real trend of semi-relevant foreign politicians coming on Alex's show in the past

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year or so.

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And I have a theory that it's because the bar for semi-relevance in politicians has

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lowered drastically since COVID.

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So Bernier is a long-time conservative politician in Canada where he's been a part of some cabinets

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over the years.

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He ran for the leadership position in the conservative party in 2017 but lost.

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So he decided he was going to start a more libertarian party, the People's Party.

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He lost his seat in parliament after that and has run unsuccessfully to get it back.

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He's run twice unsuccessfully, including this year when he came in fourth in his home area

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of Boas where he got 3,628 votes.

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That's under one-tenth of what the winner got in that race.

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He did not do well.

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In that election, the conservatives got trounced, probably slightly due to the old Trump wanting

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to take over the country and the conservative candidate being a little bit okay with that.

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Yeah, that is an issue.

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All in all, both the conservative and liberal parties got a higher share of the vote in

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that election than the past one.

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So it appears that both sides are kind of moving towards more center positions.

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If I had to read the charts and give a guess.

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It's really wild how much promotion Bernier got from the American right-wing media before

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this election and how little it mattered in terms of votes for him or his party.

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He was all over the place.

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He was on with Alex, on with Tucker, Patrick Bette David, just to name a few.

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And he got 3,628 votes and his party has no representatives elected.

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That's kind of encouraging in as much as it kind of shows that I don't know how much traction

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a lot of this dumb bullshit has in foreign countries.

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You can have this guy on and it doesn't move the needle.

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Well, I mean, or that it's not about, okay, maybe it's this.

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Maybe it's that if you are local, you can do good.

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But if you are pushed globally, it has nothing to do with your little area and everything

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to do with making everybody worse.

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It's not affecting his area where he could get elected.

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It's affecting everywhere.

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It's the internet that is his shitting grounds.

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Constituency.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's kind of the inverse of like, you know, sometimes bands got to go to Europe

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in order to make it big.

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Sure.

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Like the Beatles.

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Yeah.

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Going to Hamburg.

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Yeah.

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It's not the popular music in Canada right now.

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It's popular in the United States.

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Yeah.

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But I think it's kind of the reverse because I think that it actually makes you less popular

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in the country you came from to try and pander to this audience in America.

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In 2025, it sure does.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, Bernier sucks.

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Yep.

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And I found this dynamic really interesting.

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And that is that I think Alex thinks he kind of sucks too.

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I think that he thinks that Maxim is not a winner.

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Yeah.

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He does not have it.

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3000 is a loser amount of votes.

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Yeah.

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And I noticed that Alex was pretty early in the interview making it mostly about Bolsonaro.

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And that's not good.

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I like that.

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When you are another foreign politician.

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That's fun.

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That's fun.

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It's very strange.

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So it's what I think is fascinating.

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The long single part.

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Real quick, he plays a clip of Bolsonaro being handed some documents in the hospital.

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Fun.

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So that's the audio you're hearing there.

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Did you find this yet?

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Yep.

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Same.

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Now if you look it up under the law, he gets two months until he can go to one of these

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judicial trials, star chambers.

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Oh, sorry, five days.

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Magically delivered when he comes out of anesthesia.

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Max, I mean, this is just insane.

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We have the same in Canada with our court system.

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Actually, during COVID-19, we had a Charter of Rights like you, the First Amendment.

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And you know, the court didn't want to judge about that.

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They were saying, oh no, that's not important.

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They didn't listen or didn't want to hear our case.

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You know, I was handcuffed and put in jail for a non-crime during COVID-19.

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And so we have woke judges.

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And I just want to give you an anecdote.

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I was in the court in Canada to fight for freedoms.

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And I was a witness.

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And the judge did ask me, you know what, a question.

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And he said, what is your name?

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And I said, Maxime Bernier, can you spell your name?

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I said, yes, M-A-X-I-M-E-B-E-R-N-I-E-R.

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And the third and the last question was, what are your pronouns in the court court?

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I said to the judge, can you look at me?

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I'm a male.

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And I want to answer that question.

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We have woke judges and all that woke ideology.

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It is in our court in Canada right now.

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So we need to get rid of that.

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I want to get into your amazing Tucker interview last week.

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You made some really powerful points.

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It went viral.

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And I want to elaborate on that because more has happened now.

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But if you're Maxime Bernier, you need to recognize at this point in the interview that

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Alex is not taking you seriously.

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He's spending a good chunk of your air time right before your election complaining about

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how mean Brazil is being to Bolsonaro.

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Yeah.

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Bernier's got some good instincts, though.

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You see that he steered the conversation right back to Canada and he tried to get some good

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topics in there that Alex alike.

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He got COVID tyranny and woke judges.

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So that should be fertile ground.

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But Alex just seems unamused and he wants to talk about the interview with Tucker.

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It's very clear that Alex does not see Bernier as a contender, which makes sense.

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He comes off as a dork.

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Yeah.

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Bernier got in some legal trouble during COVID for not following public health guidance.

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In 2021, he got a ticket for not self-quarantining upon arriving in Manitoba and for putting

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together a public gathering.

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The irony of that is that according to CBC, quote, no more than 15 people were in attendance

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for his rally.

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So it was probably pretty close to being under the safe threshold for gatherings even at

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the time.

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Ouch.

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So that's that should he's not.

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Not very popular.

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That doesn't seem like it.

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I always like, you know how so there's always the German word.

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German is the language that I think we're most familiar with the idea of people like

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coming up with these words that are somewhat untranslatable into English.

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You know, and then there's Mandarin words, those kinds of things, you know, that we that

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are just said.

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And so you'll be speaking English with somebody and then out of nowhere, they'll just drop

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a word that's clearly from there.

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And they're like, I'll try and explain the concept to you.

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America so much has that with the worst possible words.

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Like it doesn't matter.

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Like woke.

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You can be listening to somebody speak Swahili and then out of nowhere, woke judges.

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And you're like, fuck, what does it take to get these people free?

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Yeah, it's it's it seems it is disorienting.

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Yeah.

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You know, just like this guy with woke judges.

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Because it really is an untranslatable concept.

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It is only you can only understand it if you are speaking woke judges, because then you're

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like, oh, well, it's some lunatic American thing.

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Yeah, well, you can translate it and maybe not precisely, but it involves grievance,

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right?

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It somehow is this person is angry about someone else.

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About what?

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Let's let's not ask the about what question.

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It's something something is making them mad.

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And that is what this judge is woke about.

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There is a bigotry that lies deep within them that is being sort of poked by someone else

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being polite.

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Yeah.

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So they call it mad.

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Yep.

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So they call it woke.

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Yes.

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Cool.

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Something like that.

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Good electoral strategy.

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Yeah.

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So I think that Max sucks.

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Yep.

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And I know that he doesn't like multiculturalism because he says so in this next clip.

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Well that'll help.

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Before they start complaining about how there's not enough white people at the Eiffel Tower.

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What are you going to do?

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We have that in our country, Alex, because of mass immigration and because of multiculturalism.

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We are saying people we open our doors to immigration and we are telling people you

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can come here.

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Don't share our values.

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Keep your culture.

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And you know, we will promote you keeping your culture and not being part of this country.

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The federal government is doing that.

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So you have people who are coming here.

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They're coming here or need to have a better economic future.

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And they're leaving in ghettos.

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And they don't some of them don't speak in.

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I saw footage yesterday of the Eiffel Tower area.

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And look, nothing against Africans.

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But there was no white people.

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As far as I can tell, it was Africa.

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And then the governments go, oh, white people are bad.

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Europeans are bad.

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And they sign them up for a communist anti-European mindset.

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The whole clergy plan, the whole replacement migration.

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People don't know we've been flooded with replacement migration.

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So just to be clear, Alex calling that the clergy plan is explicit white supremacist

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signaling.

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He knows exactly what he's doing.

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Using that terminology, he's pointing to a certain group.

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And that's awful.

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These people are awful.

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Just, hey, listen, nothing bad about Africa.

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You're done.

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You're done.

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You've already said something bad about Africa.

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Nothing bad about Africa, but there's too many black people in Paris.

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I don't understand how that isn't against Africa.

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It's against something.

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Yeah.

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So there's a caller who calls in who's against Maxim.

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And he has a pretty good position.

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And that is what Alex tried to be defensive about as he was introducing his guest, which

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is that he has no chance of winning, and he is just going to guarantee that the liberals

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end up winning.

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His party only exists to take votes away from conservative activists.

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So this caller brings that up, and Alex is not happy.

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Hi, Alex.

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Thanks for taking my call.

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Just a quick comment before the question.

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In the analytics from the last election, there was approximately 20 seats that would have

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gone conservative, but the PCP party had a small amount of votes, which actually pushed

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the vote over to the liberals.

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And I want to say I aligned with Max in the majority of what he says.

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And Alex, I probably aligned with 99 percent of what you say, too.

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But there's a bit of sophistication here, because I think Carney would be the worst

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thing possible for the country right now.

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I live on Vancouver Island, and it's going blue.

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It's going conservative.

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And there's just about a sweep that's going to take place.

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My concern is, Max, I think your influence should penetrate all the parties of Canada.

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My concern is, though, is we're in a squeeze right now where we just don't have the time.

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Well, listen, I addressed this at the start.

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We addressed it last time.

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It's a reasonable point.

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It's a philosophical issue.

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Leadership versus going along.

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Do you want to take three teaspoons of cyanide or one teaspoon?

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They'll both kill five elephants.

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It doesn't matter.

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Or OK, let the commies, let the globalists stay and make it worse, get it better, instead

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of having fake conservatives that just dragged this on.

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Why didn't the Conservative Party let Max be the leader when that's what they voted for?

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See, my issue is, why is he supposed to just sit there and then watch this go on?

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So I think that's, let's let Max respond to that.

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Yeah, you have a point there.

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I understand that concern, but don't blame me if Polieve is not a real conservative.

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I do love the caller bringing up a very reasonable point and something that's backed up by data.

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Something that is a concern for him politically.

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Sophisticated approach to electoral politics.

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And he's asking this question of Maxim.

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And Alex jumps in, starts responding for him, runs out of steam, and then is like, oh, wait,

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the guy who got asked the question maybe should answer this.

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This is kind of his thing.

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This guy I don't respect at all.

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Maybe he should chime in.

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Yeah, that would make sense.

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Yeah.

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I don't think it was that big of a deal.

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I don't think they spoiled many of the elections this time around.

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But the last election, the People's Party had a larger share of the votes.

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So they had a bit of a boost during COVID stuff.

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Because the COVID lockdown, protests and all that was fairly popular and they rode that wave.

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But now that that's gone and over, the enthusiasm for their party is somewhat diminished.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, that's why you got to go full North Korea.

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We'll ruin every one of your elections until you do what we say, conservatives.

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You'll never get in power again.

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We'll blow up this whole fucking party.

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I don't give a shit.

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Max might be in for that.

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That's what he, yeah.

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Or you could say something like, it's not all about me.

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I guess I want the things to happen.

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Yeah, that sounds crazy though.

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So Alex, he's running out of time with his very special guest.

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And so he's like, hey, can you stay a little bit longer?

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I need you to wait on the phone while I plug.

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That's amazing.

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You know, at the federal level, we are your option because we want a country that would

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be Ottawa that would be decentralized, radical decentralization will give more autonomy to

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your province, but to every province also.

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And you know, I understand the separatist movement.

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I was in Alberta a couple of days ago.

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My advice to you would be vote for the people's party at the federal level and vote for an

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independentist party at the provincial level.

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If you want Ottawa to take you seriously.

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That's I know they are destroying that.

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We're almost out of time and I bet you're on a busy schedule.

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If you can't do it, it's fine.

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Can you do five more minutes to do a few other topics?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

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Oh, we got to go break in two minutes.

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We'll come right back for five minutes, about seven, eight minutes total.

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I don't know we get to Bryce and one because I got questions I forgot to get to.

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So we can't get any more callers.

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Sorry, the callers tried to get as I could appreciate you.

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We're gonna go to break back in two minutes with Maxine Bernier here with us today and

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be sure and check out their website and the party and at Maxine Bernier there on X as

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well.

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People's party of Canada dot C a.

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All right back in two minutes.

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But listen, they have a final judgment.

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They tried all the other illegals to shut us down.

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They're coming next week as early as Wednesday, but probably a few days when Thursday or Friday.

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We need all the funds we need for the Alex Jones network and what's been set up and what's

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going down and the legal battles because they're gonna come after me even more after that.

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So yeah, he's got a guy who's in theory a leading politician in Canada whose election

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is coming up days after this.

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And he cuts him off in the middle of explaining the electoral strategy that he, Maxim is putting

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forth.

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Yeah.

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In order to ask him to stay longer and then Alex spends a while plugging.

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It's just, it's a fascinating way the brain works.

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I mean, it's definitely like it is, it is one of, I think his real skills, not skill,

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but like one of his real survival talents.

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One of the things that has truly taken him this far is an instinctive understanding of

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power dynamics.

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Like the way he just exploits power dynamics is so, so clinically psychopathic that it's

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like, it's a gift.

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Like he's, he's bullying this guy for no reason other than power dynamics.

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This is the guy I bully, you know, like it is, it is insane.

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Well, you know, like the real Trump, Alex can't act like a dick too.

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But this guy wants to be Trump in Canada and he doesn't have the juice.

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He doesn't have whatever it is that, that I don't give a fuck and I might kill you energy

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that Trump has.

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And he comes off like a dork and Alex knows that he can push him around a little bit,

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be an asshole to him.

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And I think that probably makes him feel good.

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Yeah.

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Especially on a bad day like this.

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He does feel like the way to do it is because Alex is such a star fucker, just act like

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a star whether you are or not.

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And he'll probably go along with it.

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He's an idiot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just wear shades.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So, um, they, uh, they finished their interview and Alex has been building up a bit.

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Like there's going to be a big announcement kind of thing at the end of the show.

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Um, he's like, I'm going to take some calls on a topic that I'm going to announce after

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I get back from the break.

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Gotcha.

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And so he comes back and he's got this big announcement and you'll never believe.

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And then they were bragging to folks in Houston from our sources that were right there about

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their receiver and all the rest of it.

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Now they're coming in here and they were saying again that it's going to be Bloomberg and

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the onion.

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I mean, how is that going to look after they went on national TV in November and said they

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bought it and it was real, it was a real auction.

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That was no fember.

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Fuck me.

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It was my earnings pledge to them.

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Idiots.

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Never before done in a court over bankruptcy or not real monetary instruments.

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Bernie Madoff type stuff.

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And then trying to shut us down with the US trustee without a court order.

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I mean, all of those shenanigans, the justice department funding the lawsuits and the show

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trials, and then they're going to come in here, close it, and then use the exact same

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graphics, which you already did at the onion and the same font and say they're me.

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And they sent on the national news to misrepresent and confuse people so they can discredit our

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work, which they're so scared of by making it a joke and pretending they're us with info

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wars dot com.

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So there's a few things I need to hit that only at news and all the phones up and take

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a few calls on the subject with you.

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But I got some other news I need to hit as well.

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Today's the day, the last day that I think you should go to info war store dot com and

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order any product, because I think by next Friday will be closed.

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And then it goes the shipping department up in Denver.

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You'll get your products.

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They ship stuff like a day after it comes in.

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But I think like today I need to go turn in for store off because morally I'm not going

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to sit there and have people putting orders in and then and then and then potentially

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who knows, even, you know, because it's paid and it's done and it's done by the shipping

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people up in Denver and all that.

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But I did.

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So you can order something, you know, the day we're shut down and it would get shipped

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out.

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But I think it's time.

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Wait a day or tomorrow just to shut it off.

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So I mean, that's that's how serious this is.

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I mean, I've got five or six sports jackets here in my bathroom, in my dressing room.

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I got to get those out.

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I mean, that's got to be real hard.

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Stop talking about the goddamn sports coach.

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Those are very important.

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Yeah.

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I think that like the I'm going to just fucking close the store.

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Don't buy.

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Don't buy shit from there anymore.

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Let's move everything over.

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That feels more like a sincere expression of Alex.

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Yeah.

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Being like shit's going down.

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Yeah.

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Him screaming and like, I'm going to hold down the fort forever and all that stuff is

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very it's very performative.

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And there's there's a lot of bluster behind it.

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But like, it's just a regular business decision.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Funnel traffic over to this.

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Yep.

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Because this I'm not going to make any money off this anymore ever again.

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Time to onboard you into our new process.

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It's a cynical expression of it's over.

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Yeah.

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I think that I take that a little bit more sincerely than his more dramatic.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is about money, which I believe he is.

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He is.

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He actually cares about.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So it may be the case that the Infowars store is dead.

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You'll have to go to the Alex Jones Network dot com a completely different place.

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The Infowars store is dead.

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Long live the Alex Jones store.

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That's how intense and how.

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Fuck.

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And how real this is.

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But that's how urgent this is.

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But enough of him for store.

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You know, the great X2 all stuffs in stock.

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You want it.

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It's there.

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You'll get it if you order it today.

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But we may just put a note up there saying this is about to be seized.

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And if you want to still order there, you know, that's fine.

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But I just want to be clear, the Alex Jones store dot com is not owned by me.

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It's all my great folks, Begley, that have all their other people and all their other

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shopping carts they do for the Hodge twins and everybody else will put in for store dot

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com.

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Take that down, please.

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And we'll put the store dot com up, please.

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And so.

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I think that's the last time you're going to see him for store on the screen.

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Wow.

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It's almost like a ceremonial taking down of a flag.

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He's going to fold up the ad for Infowars store dot com.

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Wild.

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In a way that is uniform.

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You know, you have to have the right angles and the corners.

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Absolutely.

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No, there's a couple of R's in there.

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You never know where they're going to wind up.

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So yeah, you got to make sure that those are facing each other whenever you fold it.

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There's some guns they can salute with in the studio.

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There's definitely whiskey.

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Somewhere there's whiskey.

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There'll be a toast.

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Yeah.

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This is like sad.

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No, no.

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I mean, it's sad in a different way.

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Descriptively it's sad.

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Descriptively it is sad.

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I don't give a shit, but he seems real bummed out.

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I think I would say it's sad in a grander sense of like the meaninglessness of all of

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this could not be more expressed than, you know what, I'm going to have to take the Infowars

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store down and put the Alex Jones store up.

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That is fucking Looney Tunes.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I do wonder though, like...

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Wabbit season.

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Duck season.

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Yeah.

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I think though that like it might actually make a pretty sizable dent.

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Sure.

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I think that anytime you try to move people over from one thing to another, you're going

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to have some amount of non-retention.

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Totally.

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And Alex, I think probably relies on a lot of like people who have been around, you know?

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Yep.

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I don't know if he's going to be able to onboard everybody over to it.

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So I think that even though it is this stupid thing of like Infowars store is now Alex Jones

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store, that might make a difference.

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It will.

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No, it just, it will, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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Right.

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Right.

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Some people might think that Alex has a need for money.

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Sure.

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And he does.

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Because he says that a lot.

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Oh, so much.

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Yeah.

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He needs a lot of money.

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Yeah.

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But have you ever considered that maybe what he's doing is giving you an opportunity to

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give him money?

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That's a good point of view on it.

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And if you don't, you're crazy and ungrateful of the opportunity that he's given you.

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That sounds true.

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I need your backing because the magnitude of what I can do to these people is directly

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connected to the variable of how much you spread the word, how much you re upload our

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clips, how much you pray for us.

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And that's critical.

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And how much you support us.

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It is not in the final equation, you giving something up to go to the Alex Jones store.com

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and get incredible supplements that'll blow you away and work the best of anything out

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there.

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It is not you giving something up to get a Patriot t-shirt and see what it's like to

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meet all these like-minded people and find out just how popular liberty is.

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It is an opportunity for you to really be in the game in the fight against the globalist

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in the funds we get from that.

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And like anything good, you also get the great benefit of the products.

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But people have it drilled into their head that everything's just entertainment and everything's

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this and that.

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Well, everybody's got their hand out.

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There's all this media and all this stuff.

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What media has been dead on and told you the future?

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What media is under massive attack by the bad guys?

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I'm defending you because we've all got to defend each other together.

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So I'm going to do this regardless.

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But you understand the missed opportunity for the vast majority of you that never take

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the step to actually go to the Alex Jones store.com and actually get the very best methylene

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blue, the very best Irish Seamoss, the very best shells, the very best turmeric.

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It's ridiculous what it does.

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What a piece of shit.

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Listen, we shall all hang together or hang separately if you don't buy Alex Jones rope.

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That's what's going to happen.

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It's just how it works.

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Yeah.

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That's rough.

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Woof.

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Yeah.

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I love marketing because it is all that.

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You know, it's just that whenever it's that, you're like, wow, that's marketing, baby.

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Yeah.

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What do they call that?

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Like fear of loss of gain?

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Yeah.

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You know, like that kind of tactic where you can't afford to not get this thing.

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Exactly.

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You can't afford to not give Alex money.

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Just like, man, you've got to do something different.

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Yeah.

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It sucks.

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This is the worst.

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So the feeling that I got listening to this episode, there was a bit of like, it does

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feel in a way, Alex seems at peace with the eventual and coming lack.

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Yeah, inevitable.

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And soon lack of info wars being his anymore.

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All right, let's take some calls.

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Let me just say this.

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I'm going to elaborate in the next few days more on this info wars.

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The term info war is generic.

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It means information warfare.

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The truth lies battling each other.

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And they hate the fact that nobody thought they'll get the URL of what this is all really

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called in 1997.

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I did.

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We paid like $10 for it.

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And then they can just take that away and then have the onion pose and act like me and

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put out this info.

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That'll confirm it's going to be a joke.

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It's going to blow up their face.

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And I've already seen people in the last year, they're trying to shut us down intensely saying,

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you know, we're all going to be the info war now.

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Yeah, you just put in your tagline, whatever our new website is on X or wherever, and you

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say, I'm, I'm Spartacus.

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I'm the info war.

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This is all an info war.

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You're all the info war.

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There's a war on for your mind.

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So if they think they're going to go out there and steal my identity as they've already tried,

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it's going to be successful.

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It's going to backfire.

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So it's simple.

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Just promote the new stuff we launch the all shows network and other stuff.

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And everybody's the M4.

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This is the M4.

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They, they think taking a studio or a name away does anything.

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No, it doesn't except show people how afraid the bad guys are of what we've done legitimately

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here and how we politically destroyed them globally.

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They're falling apart.

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They're collapsing.

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They're on fire.

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And then they go, we'll just go punish that guy.

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Cause he was a big part of it.

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How did it work with Trump?

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How did it work with the mugshot and trying to kill him?

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It backfired because God's on our side.

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And if God's with us, nobody can stand against us.

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It's that simple.

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So you're all the info war.

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That's the key.

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We are all the info war and the info war lives forever.

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And this great crew.

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Love you.

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Love you too.

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Bye.

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So this, like, I think that he's delusional.

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Like this idea that like info wars being taken from me, isn't going to mean anything.

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I think that's, it's simultaneously true.

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And so untrue, like in terms of his ability to run some kind of bullshit nonsense, outrage,

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bait, click bait kind of content.

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Sure.

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That sells supplements.

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Sure.

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His ability to do that is going to be unchanged.

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Yeah.

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Regardless of the name.

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Yeah.

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But it is a giant loss to his ego.

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Yeah.

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It is, it's something he'll never really live down is that like you built this whole thing

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and now you don't own it anymore.

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That's tough.

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And I think that that's why, yeah, whatever is done with it, you know, I think it's important

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to not fall into a trap of what Alex is saying.

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You know, he's saying that someone's going to buy it up and then they're going to distort

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and misrepresent me and hide my content or whatever.

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I have a strong belief that Alex looks worse with context.

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And if anybody owns his shit, they should put as much of it out as possible.

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In as long form and full context as possible.

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Because he's damned by context.

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He's saved by editing and selective presentation of shit.

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So I think that if anybody does end up owning it, it should just all like release every

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single old backlog thing that he doesn't put out.

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All those episodes where he pretends to predict things, put them all out in their full context

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and let the light of the examination shine on it.

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Show even more than what Alex shows.

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Like he holds back shit.

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I mean, I'm imagining, well, maybe, Dan, people have accused me of being a very cynical man.

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Sure.

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Bordering on pessimistic.

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But I would imagine that Roger Stone and his crew are going to wind up getting it.

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I have no idea.

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You know, like the onion would be stupid to buy it.

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They've already got what they, you know, they got the announcement.

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They got people to subscribe that we're going to subscribe.

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They don't want to actually spend money on.

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It'd be a waste.

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It'd be stupid.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what anyone's decision process is like, but I would give Roger the same advice.

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It would work against his interests, but I would give him the same advice.

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Release all of those old episodes that Alex doesn't put out.

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Right, right.

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I'm just, you know, it's still going to be his.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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We will see.

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We will see.

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He's taking calls and it's really a bummer fest because his big announcement is, I think

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I'm going to close the Infowars store.

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There is that.

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And that's what he wants to take calls on?

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What a shit way to end the show.

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Thankfully, he gets a call from a guy who starts out sounding real smart and real like,

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hey, Alex, you did good.

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Sure.

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You did good.

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And then he veers into crazy town.

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Sounds good.

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Corona in Ohio, you're on the air.

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Hey, Alex, how you doing, sir?

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Man, I'm I'm alive and the world's wild.

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First time talking with you.

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It's been a long time.

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I've listened to you since like scanner darkly movie.

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For a few words of encouragement.

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Okay.

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Everything you just said, you're answering your own question.

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Okay, you're doing everything correctly.

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You're thinking correctly.

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I'm a highly intelligent person, just like yourself.

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And I analyze the logic map, the direction, probability, everything that goes into making

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that decision on what to do.

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And I just wanted to say as a listener in the background that respects you highly and

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your entire crew.

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Thank you.

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You're doing things right, sir.

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No doubt in my mind.

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Problem is we're fighting evil.

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The purest, darkest, most disgusting people in the world.

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I'm under attack too.

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Just for support and info wars in my own personal world.

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I'm under attack.

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Careful.

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Just for support and Trump.

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I'm under attack, just like yourself and everybody else who supports feel like a wife is coming

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in here.

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Right.

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Because we won't surrender to Satan.

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No.

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Because we know it's certain death if we do.

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And you may gain wealth, fame, prosperity, you know, by going in that direction and falling

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to those temptations.

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Let me tell you, I have sex operatives.

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I just had one this week.

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Coming out of Colorado.

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And I'm like, and this ain't the first time, believe me.

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They watch us.

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You know, I see it on my ex-account.

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And if you need to know it, it's at the Corona one.

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All ran together.

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Okay.

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I try to.

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Brother, I got to jump.

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I appreciate you and God bless you.

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I'm just wanting to hear everybody.

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Thank you.

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Hey, shit's getting weird.

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Oh, you got a lot of divorce energy coming at me real hard here.

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I really liked it when you were consoling me and telling me about how you like stats

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and numbers and logic and all that stuff.

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But then.

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I felt smart.

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I started getting weird and saying you're hounded by sex operatives.

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There's a lot of honeypots coming from Denver.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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You're in Ohio.

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Is this good news for us or bad news for us?

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Hey, they're coming.

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There's a lot of them.

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This is not my first.

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What does that mean?

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This is my first time.

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What does that mean?

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There's a lot of sex operatives.

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Tell me about what that means to you.

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For what reason is anyone trying to sex operate?

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Right?

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Like what?

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What is happening?

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He supports Trump.

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Sure.

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And likes Alex.

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I'm fine.

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And therefore sex operatives.

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No.

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Are all over the place.

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What does that mean?

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They're trying to come like they're trying to create some kind of a honeypot situation

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right where he has leverage against him.

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Sure.

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Stop spending $20 a month at the Infowars store.

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Right.

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What could he possibly have interpreted as a sex operative situation?

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Like what happened?

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Someone was nice to him at a bar?

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Yeah.

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Like the idea of not asking more questions about sex operatives.

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Obviously Alex is like, well, we got to move on.

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My next question is, let's go.

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Tell me about this sex operative.

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What was this person like?

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Well, but see, I think this is where Alex's instincts are better than yours for the job

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at hand.

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Because you ask follow up questions and this is going to get real...

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Oh, it's going to get real messy.

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Yeah.

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Fast.

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I'm very excited.

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He on his own took us in quite a direction.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And Alex is still kind of, I mean, he still has the scent on him of the guy who took pictures

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of young women in a parking lot the day before telling that story.

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So he's a sex operative in a way.

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That's not the call you want when you're just trying to feel better about the fact

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that maybe your business is going under.

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That just can't be...

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That's such the worst non-sequitur to then have...

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That drives me insane.

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Sex operatives out of Denver?

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You know that I have so many questions about that.

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So many of them.

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This is not the first time.

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I want all of the information here.

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Oh my God.

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This is where you and I are different.

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What was the first sex operative like?

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That's another question I want to have.

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Were they similar?

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Were they similar?

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Were they similar?

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They have a style.

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Is there a certain kind of...

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There must be a pattern.

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I mean, he's indicating that there's some sort of like things he can tell.

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Absolutely.

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Are you just talking about women?

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Anyone that says hello.

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Like what's going on here?

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Anyone who's not wearing a MAGA hat.

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Absolutely.

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Sex operative.

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See, this is where you and me are different in terms of curiosity.

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Like if Alex mentions like some old document or something like that, I'm curious.

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I want to know what he's talking about.

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Don't give a shit.

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Nuh-uh.

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This guy talks about sex operatives in...

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I'll be more.

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I'm so hungry.

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Meanwhile, I'm going to pass.

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I don't want to get in this guy's business.

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So we come to the end of this and things don't look great in Alex's world.

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And we'll see how the next stretch of time plays out for him.

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It could be quite bad.

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You know, the thing that's so stupid about it, the thing that I hate so much about it

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is that he's absolutely going to feel better once it's gone.

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Because it just won't be there anymore.

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You know?

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Like it won't be there.

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Yeah.

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And he can pretend to go on the attack.

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This is so much defense for him that it'll be a very big relief just from a narrative

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standpoint if he just shakes it off his back.

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Totally.

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No, you're right.

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Like the reason that this is horrible is because it is a huge blow to his ego.

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And that's why he can't let go of it.

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That's why he's holding on so tightly.

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He doesn't understand that he is the source of his own misery in this regard.

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And if he just lets it go, all of a sudden this weight will be gone and he'll be able

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to move forward lighter.

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Yeah, like Roger Stone, if there's one lesson from him, it's like always attack.

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Just move forward.

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Never play defense.

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And Alex, you know, he's not able to do that as well.

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And he could free himself up to do a little bit more of it.

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Or at least pretend to.

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But yeah, I think we could be entering interesting territory or we might be having this exact

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same conversation in a year.

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Trapped again.

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Who knows?

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I did love that subtle reminder of November was when the - ooh, yeah, baby.

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Time flies.

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That was a long time ago.

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Yep.

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So we'll be back with another episode.

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But until then, we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgeright.com.

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Yep, we'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I'm your host, Alex Tizer.

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.