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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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We like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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I guess my bright spot today is that there's a new season of Taskmaster coming up.
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And Jason Mantzoukas is on it.
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Oh I'm so excited.
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And I am so thrilled for whatever that's gonna be.
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Like he's such a chaotic, fun kind of element.
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And I think he has, as someone who's listened to a number of podcasts that he has guested
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on and been a part of and seen a number of his pieces of work, he has high status in
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his comedic persona.
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He performs and it is a trouncing of the people around him.
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And to see how that's gonna interact with a Taskmaster and Greg, I find I don't know
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what I should expect.
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And I'm interested in that.
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So I'm excited.
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I could not be more excited because the energy is similar to like Acaster in terms of sheer
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funniness and steamroll ability.
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Once he gets going, get out of his way.
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You're not involved there.
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But James Acaster is also a younger man.
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And so him and Greg's kind of thing was like a teacher student, kind of like a I was you
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but I don't want you to get away with stuff kind of thing.
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And it's great.
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Yeah.
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These are two old men.
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This is not a student.
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I'm Jason fucking Mantzoukas.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I see the energy that he would have with Alex and just crushing him.
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I see that being very easy to imagine.
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But with Greg.
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Who knows?
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I don't know if there could be any human being more suited to trying to cleverly solve absurd
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tasks and making it electric to watch.
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Right?
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Sure.
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And someone who like in the studio bits will pose a great challenge for Greg to maintain
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his authority.
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Spectacular.
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Yeah.
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So that'll be great.
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I'm excited.
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What's your bright spot?
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I think I could say a few things, but honestly, today I'm going to go as mundane as humanly
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possible.
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This is my Vonnegut.
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You know, if things are nice, say things are nice.
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Right.
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I took the hell out of a shower.
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OK.
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I took such a great shower today.
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You know, when you walk out of a shower and you feel like clean.
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That's generally how I feel.
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But like but like there are no bacteria.
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There's no there's no even invisible.
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I'm Mr. Clean.
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I am this kind of clean.
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And I just it was just great.
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It felt great.
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And so I'm acknowledging that sometimes that is a great feeling.
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Let me ask you a few questions about your routine.
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Sure.
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What type of shampoo do you use?
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My wife gets me whatever shampoo is from someplace that makes good shampoo.
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Is it something that has a mentholating effect?
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You get a tingle in your head when you use your shampoo.
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No.
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OK.
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No.
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I don't know what I do with that.
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She buys stuff that's very smart because my hair is on its way out.
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It's saying goodbye.
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And she's getting me stuff that's like, not just yet.
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Not just yet.
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We're hanging on, buddy.
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That stuff that's the maintenance.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The stuff that's part glue.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Next question.
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Liquid soap or bar?
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Liquid soap.
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OK.
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Lufa.
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Lufa.
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Lufa.
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That's the only way to go.
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OK.
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Next question is in the shower, how regularly do you wash your feet?
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Every time.
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Every time.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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I didn't used to wash my feet at all.
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Until probably three or four years ago.
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And for some reason, three or four years ago, I really did just start being like, you know
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what, I should take care of my skin.
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Sure.
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You know, I'd be lotion up, do all this other stuff.
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Every single time I wash my feet in the shower.
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I think of that, there's an Andy Capp cartoon comic strip where he's stepping on a bar of
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soap and slipping and he says, I wish there was a better way to do this.
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I think about that every time.
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How terrible that fucking comic strip is and was.
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And yep.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, glad you had a good shower.
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Yeah.
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It was great.
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So today, Jordan, we got an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking, we're going back to Mystery Babylon for today.
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We're going to be talking about, I wanted to keep making progress through this.
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I think that one of the things that has characterized our show, unfortunately, is a tendency that
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I have, which is to lose threads.
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Sure.
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I will bark on something and then we'll just, you know, we'll get back to it.
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And so I wanted to make sure we didn't do that.
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We stayed moving forward.
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As we refocus on our primary ding dong, we also make progress with discovering what the
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mystery religions are all about.
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Because I think that Alex believes some of this stuff too.
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Yeah, it would make sense.
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Right?
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I mean, like this is part of his cosmology.
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He was a fan of Bill Cooper.
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This is weird esoteric nonsense.
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So I think there's a value in maintaining some momentum on this.
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Yeah, and it's a little bit like a melange too.
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It pulls from so much stuff that of course it must flow, of course.
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But like Alex pulls from enough of it that even if he isn't like directly inspired by
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it, it's from the same pool of bullshit.
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So we will look at three and four.
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Three and four of Mystery Babylon today.
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Because three is a dud.
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Four also not great.
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But there's a little bit more meat on the bones for us to talk about.
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But three, holy shit.
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Not enough mystery.
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Nothing.
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Nothing is happening.
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Holy shit.
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It's boring.
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Just a discussion of various Egyptian deities.
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Great.
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Oh boy.
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Anyway, we'll get down to business on this.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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Shout out to Joy.
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I've been listening since 2019 and I start every work day and road trip with.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I think there might have been something after that with that you cut off.
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I believe it was you.
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I think whenever I copy and pasted it, I lost the Y-O-U.
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All right.
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Well, next, the consortium of women who convinced Alex that he impregnated them with a gaze
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and scammed him out of $300 apiece.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And then the next one says, happy birthday and happy almost wedding day to my very own
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Alex.
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Does sharing your name with a person give you a deeper understanding of their inner
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chaos, Alex?
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to all the wonks at High Score Saloon.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So I think that one of the things that I'm trying to focus on, like I said, is doing
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these things that you mean to do and you lose sight of.
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And so Mystery Babylon has existed in our heads for a long time to the point where some
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people will use shout out names that sass about how we need to do it.
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And I feel like checking that off the list is important to me.
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And unfortunately, the experience of going through it, like I said, three is if I were
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listening to it for sport just for fun, I would be gone.
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I would tune out.
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It's that dull.
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Makes sense.
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Except for one part towards the end of three, the third lecture of Mystery Babylon.
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I mean, he's essentially reading somebody else's book to you too.
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A lot of it is just that Manly P. Hall book.
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Right.
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That is true.
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There's a lot of that that's, yeah, it's going to be dull.
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He's reading a dull book.
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It's kind of the way that Alex will read a headline and then yell a couple things.
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Bill's doing that, but with the text of this Manly P. Hall book.
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About Egypt and Freemasons.
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And so that is, you start to feel like, why am I even listening to this?
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I should just read the Manly P. Hall book.
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But then there's every now and again, there's moments that are like, uh oh, this could be
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interesting.
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And it turns out towards the end of this third episode, Bill reveals that this has to do
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with Atlantis.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Osiris is the primitive revelation of the first race.
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But as Isis was born upon the fourth day, we find this tradition coming into Egypt through
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the Atlantean Mystery School, of which Isis is the symbol.
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And you will find at the base of all of these things Atlantis.
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Francis Bacon wrote about Atlantis.
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Never believed in Atlantis.
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So you know it's good.
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This country, the Freemasons, established the city of Atlanta as the new Atlantis.
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And all of this will come together for you.
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It took me many, many, many years of studying deep into the night and trying to discuss
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this with other people who had no idea what I was talking about.
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So most of it was put together in loneliness and late at night.
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Then when I established my organization known as the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence,
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many others begin to help and furnish bits and pieces of information.
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And we have succeeded, folks, in infiltrating the Lodge.
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We have members in the Lodge who feed us information constantly.
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Too much, in fact.
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Members...
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Seems like they're making up a lot of it.
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... whom we taught how to take an oath so that the oath of Freemasonry would not be
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binding upon them.
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Words mainly.
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Have to play sometimes by the rules of the enemy in order to beat the enemy.
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We are beating the enemy now.
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So I thought that this was an interesting clip amidst a lot of rambling about, like
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just stories about Osiris and Isis and what have you.
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Because this is so Alexi.
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This is, I'm fighting imaginary, I'm fighting ghosts.
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And I have devised a way that you can take an oath and not mean it so you could get it
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to the basins without giving up your soul.
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Fucking crazy.
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An absolutely crazy thing to say.
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I have discovered lying.
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What?
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What are you talking about?
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No one else has been able to infiltrate the Lodge because they didn't know how to lie.
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Unreal.
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Unreal.
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But that is so much that somewhere within this man is a belief that there is a cosmic
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contract.
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Yes, and magic.
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Yeah.
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That you cannot, that like, you physically, in the universe we inhabit, cannot break once
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you establish this thing.
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Or you will receive unearthly consequences.
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And it does seem to imply that he and his Kaji members, the citizen, journalist, whatever,
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intelligence, joint intelligence, excuse me.
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That is where he'll teach you how to take this oath.
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And it also costs $45 to join.
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Of course it does.
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So there does seem to be a little bit of a, a little bit of a scammy thing going on.
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But I think that there's a real pathos.
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I think there's a real human thing that he's expressing when he says that I stayed up long
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nights reading this stuff and talking to people who had no idea what I was talking about.
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I think that there is some real feeling of like, I was alone and then I found conspiracy
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folks and everyone knew what I was talking about.
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And it didn't sound crazy.
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I found my people.
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Yeah.
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I was listening to that and I thought, cause the moment he brought up Atlantis and Atlanta,
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you're talking about hot Lantis?
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I was like, we're off to a great start.
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But then I immediately went to Atlanta, Ted Turner, and then I went to Duke Phillips and
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I was like, oh, if Bill Cooper were in The Critic, Duke Phillips would fulfill all of
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his ideas basically, right?
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Duke is life.
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Like it would be a dukestrophe, what we're dealing with here.
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It would be like he would get it.
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I think it makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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So like I said, the third one is not, there's not much going on and I found myself almost
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falling asleep through parts of it.
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But as a refresher, I guess, what do we know?
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Ooh, as a refresher of...
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Can you help as the pupil, the eye of Horus.
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Oh my God.
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Can you tell me what we, like a recap?
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What we've established, I think, cause here's the important parts to me.
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What we've established is that he is talking about something they believe that he does
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not, even though I think he kind of does.
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I think he kind of does.
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He is also talking about something that he's older than Christianity, but he believes is
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subjected to or subjugated by Christianity.
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He believes that Christianity is correct and that they believe that Christianity is a perversion
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of their mystery religion.
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Then he believes that there is, I don't know if there's a pantheon so much within the Mystery
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of Babylon.
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This is something that I can throw around from three, lecture three.
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And that is that there is not so much a pantheon as all of these deities are metaphors for
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things.
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Okay, that's kind of what I was worried about here.
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I wasn't sure exactly how far he was talking about with the gods.
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Right, so there's like an esoteric truth and an exoteric truth.
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And the esoteric truth is known to the initiates and the select few.
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And that is that there isn't actually an Isis or an Osiris.
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These are metaphors for things.
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It's the sun and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Sure, sure.
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And the exoteric belief is whatever you want to believe, the cult doesn't care.
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Yeah, that does make sense.
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If you believe that Horus is a person or Osiris is a person, they don't give a shit.
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You can believe that if you want.
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You're already in.
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Right.
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Or you're out.
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You're the exo.
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You're the people on the outside.
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Your beliefs and the reality of deity and all this stuff isn't really important to them.
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So that's kind of the way that the mythology is understood.
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And then from there, it really does feel like everything else is just like, ah, these words
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sound similar.
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Atlanta, Atlanta.
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Yeah, Atlanta, Atlanta, ah, ah, you can see that it's similar.
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There is a lot of that.
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Yeah.
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That seems to be the Mason's center stone of the building.
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Which is why I think it's hard for me to remember specifics after that, because once we get
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into a, oh, these two sound alike and that's it, then I just shut down.
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I don't also absorb the other information about why the sun and then sundial or like
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some, yeah, it's really, especially when like you have these words that sound similar and
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they're being presented as being connected and that's wrong.
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Right.
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That when you have failed on that level, it calls into question your ability to assess
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a lot of the other information.
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And that's a problem for bill.
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So we start the fourth lecture and this one has a sponsor.
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Well, wait, is that okay?
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The other ones didn't have a sponsor so far.
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And so I was, I was intrigued.
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The hour of the time, ladies and gentlemen, is brought to you tonight by the pilot connection.
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That's the pilot connection.
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How would you feel if I were to tell you that income tax is voluntary and if you know how
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to untax yourself, you would never have to file another income tax return, pay income
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tax, or keep the records associated with those who are termed taxpayers.
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So this episode was recorded in 1993 and it may come as no surprise that in June, 1996,
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the two people who ran the pilot connection were sentenced to 17 and 14 years in prison,
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respectively.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Yes.
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According to a department of justice release that brought the total number of people associated
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with the pilot connection who had charged with criminal offenses to 34.
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They made millions of dollars selling fake documents to people that they claimed that
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they could just send to the IRS to make them legally designated as non taxpayers, which
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was obviously a scam.
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It's unsurprising that this is the kind of sponsor that bill could have access to.
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And that kind of lineage definitely is trickled down to Alex.
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You know, like this is, it's honestly pretty surprising that bill wouldn't have gotten
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in some trouble for just doing this participant in promoting this because it is male fraud.
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It's not just a tax issue.
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Like this is, this is fraud and bill is active participant in it.
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He says that he has used this himself.
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He says that I'm not just a member.
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That's your dodge.
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He's also a victim.
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Um, yeah, but he's also clearly making a cut.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
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You know, he's a middleman, even if he is a victim of the scam.
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And it's like, okay, we're talking about the fucking esoteric religion that's behind the
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world order in history.
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This is your sponsor.
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Yeah.
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That's bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, that is, that is like a throughout American history because you're right.
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There is that lineage that's going through Alex now.
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There is, there is a person who is like, here's what people want to do crime.
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Here's what also people want to not feel like they're doing crime.
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So how do I tell people to do crime and also make them feel like they're not doing crime?
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And that's my business, right?
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Well, even, even if you take it away from like crime, it's just like, people like to
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scam.
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Yeah.
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I mean, get away with some, you know, crime.
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And as far as legal is concerned, more like just get one over on somebody.
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Right.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Like, you know, Alex.
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Look at all these idiots paying taxes.
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I have the pilot connection, so I mailed in a thing.
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I don't have to pay taxes like the dumdums here, you know?
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Yeah.
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Alex likes to terrify people about how like the money system is going to collapse and
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everything and then he sells them gold.
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Yep.
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And it's, this is all just, you know, false promises and it's great.
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Here's what the smart people are doing.
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Yeah.
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And then you go, oh shit.
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Yeah.
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But what you're really doing is selling this packet of fake documents and stuff to people
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who are probably going to get in trouble themselves.
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Like what do you even say at that trial?
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Oh yeah, I guess it is a crime.
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How about that?
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All right.
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Well, 17 years, that sounds about right for me.
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Um, so, uh, he gets into the actual, the meat of the subject.
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Gotcha.
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And so the mystery religions, they believe that basically, uh, God put us in ignorance.
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Okay.
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And that Satan saved humanity from the bondage of ignorance.
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Oh, okay.
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So they're doing that.
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Okay.
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Gotcha.
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The light bringer stuff.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Now this might sound cool.
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Well, I mean the kids like it.
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But it's not.
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Oh no.
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It says, the Mystery Religion of Babylon believes that man was held prison in the bonds of ignorance
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in the Garden of Eden by an unjust vindictive God.
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Lucifer through his agent Satan, and many believe them to be the same entity, and that's
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okay.
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Lucifer through his agent Satan released man from the bonds of ignorance with the gift
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of intellect.
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And through the use of that intellect, man himself will become God.
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And that's the heart and soul of the dogma of the Mystery Religion of Babylon.
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Now since I am taking the content of all of these episodes directly from their own teachings
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and their own writings, so that you'll know that this is exactly what they believe, sometimes
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it may sound to you like these are the good guys.
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But remember, they are the ultimate perfection of deception.
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And they have intentionally made it this way, so that they can get people to join them and
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stay with them until they're so deeply involved and committed that it's too late.
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That is why the degrees of initiation.
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So stick it out and you'll find out that these guys are the greatest liars, deceivers, manipulators,
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and scum that exist upon the face of the earth.
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Typhon in their teachings is the desire of the few pitted against the good of the many.
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Now if you understand what I just said, you understand that these are communist socialists.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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This is all communism.
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Was it communism in the 700 BC era or wherever?
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That was also communism?
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International socialism.
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Ah, damn.
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They've been running this racket for a long time.
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I like the retreat of the idea that you have, eh, you know, they sound good.
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But trust me, eventually we'll get to the part where this is bad.
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It sounds very innocuous to just say that people will use their intellect in order to
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be godlike.
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But that's bad.
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Yeah.
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And of the devil and communists.
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You know, here's what I think.
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Coming from it from the opposite direction.
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So he's from the I am a Christian direction and then the god thing.
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So I'm coming from this direction.
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Okay mystery religions, you're telling me the intellect can allow me to become god and
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stuff.
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What are we talking about becoming god?
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Because if we're talking about becoming god, I want some powers.
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When I was at the witch store getting your birthday present, there were two people honestly
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and very seriously discussing the powers of witchcraft that they are going to obtain.
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Which makes sense to me.
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Yes, you're gonna get powers.
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Of course, right?
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It's only if you're just telling me like, oh, you're gonna be at peace or something.
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Like nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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I don't need that.
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Well, I think some of the powers may be things like understanding the processes of nature.
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Ugh, boo.
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In order to act in ways that are in accordance with that so you can maximize crop yields
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and various things like that.
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Know when.
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I want to catch a leprechaun.
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Okay, that's gonna be tougher.
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Yeah that's my bar for all world religions.
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Catch a leprechaun.
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I don't like to shit on people's fun, you know, in terms of magic.
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I think that having some fun with the world is pretty necessary.
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And I think that however you get it, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, you witches can't
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do shit.
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That seems like a boring and assholish way to go about life.
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You're not bothering me, I'm not bothering you.
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At the same time, I think that if someone makes an affirmative statement that they can
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do magic, I must see the magic.
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One hundred percent, you gotta do it.
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And if you're going to insist on some kind of world that I must adhere to based on that
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magic, I need to see you shoot lightning bolts or something.
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I'll join your team if you shoot lightning bolts.
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I think of it as a positive.
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If you can shoot lightning bolts, I'm on your team.
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Right.
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I'll join a lightning bolt team.
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Why not?
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They can shoot lightning bolts.
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That sounds fun.
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A lot of my beliefs about the world are based on sort of truths that we've uncovered.
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And a lot of those are called into question when someone can shoot lightning out of their
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hands.
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Yeah, everything changes.
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And so I will reassess some of my prior assumptions.
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Totally.
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Some of the baselines.
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I think it's fair.
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Yeah.
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I'm coming into the... with open hearts and open eyes, I want you to shoot lightning.
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I want to be on your team.
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Because currently my team has a dearth of lightning shooters.
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And I can handle at least one or two of them.
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I'll even let you shoot me with the lightning a little bit.
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Totally.
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You now get a little jolt.
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Hey, that'd be fun.
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People do that for Zuck stuff too.
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You know, let's have a good time.
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So you mentioned Typhon in there.
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And that's just another member of the Egyptian gods and stuff.
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It will be used as a stand-in for Christianity.
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So that's the metaphor that it is going to take.
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It's the enemy of the mystery religions.
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They don't like Typhon.
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Gotcha.
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Okay.
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Weird.
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Yeah.
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They got... they got to... like...
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Okay.
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If you don't have any real gods, and your idea is that the intellect is going to do
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the thing, how is Christianity a perversion of that?
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You know what I mean?
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I think that they would view it as a perversion of it because it's a limiting... it's a co-opting
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of this myth... mystical truth.
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But it does kind of run counter to what Bill has already said too, which is the exoteric
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truth of like, if you want to believe that these images are humans, are individuals like
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Jesus, per se, then the Mystery School should have no problem with that.
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Yeah, it feels...
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They seem to have a problem with Christianity, but not with all the other personifications
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of hidden truths.
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Which is strange.
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It almost seems like he has a persecution complex.
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It's almost like he created an enemy specifically for himself.
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Yeah, almost like he's fighting ghosts and has figured out how to lie about them.
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Strange.
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Cool.
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But do you want to pay taxes?
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Of course you don't.
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Send Bill some money.
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So a lot of the people who have similar beliefs to Bill, and maybe some of the people who
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have helped him not feel so alone in the quiet hours of the night, don't like Jewish people
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so much.
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And a part of that is that the Masonic master builder Hyrum the Bith is seen as Jewish.
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And so Bill has to counter this, or address this here.
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The Mabelite Typhon is the spirit of dissension and discord that breaks up unity of purpose
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by setting factions against each other so that great issues lose the name of action.
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The desire for riches, pomp, power and—listen to this, folks—sovereignty by which this
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evil genius was obsessed, reveals the temptation by which humanity is deflected from its ultimate
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goal and led into the byways of sorrow and despair.
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Typhon, the queen of Ethiopia, and the seventy-two conspirators represent the three destructive
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powers preserved to modern Freemasonry as the murderers of the master builder Hyrum
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Abiff.
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You will see that Hyrum Abiff was never murdered.
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In fact, in the Bible you will see that when the Temple of Solomon was completed, he went
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back home to Tyre.
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But in the Freemason legend, Hyrum Abiff, the master builder, was killed and the Temple
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was never completed.
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So everybody is blaming all of this upon the Jews.
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It is not the Jews, folks, because all of this is a front.
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It's symbology for what they really, really mean.
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Hyrum Abiff was really, folks, Jacques de Malay of the Knights Templar.
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All of this will make much more sense to you in several shows down the road because we
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have lots and lots of information to go through before you put it all together.
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I guarantee this will not make sense a couple shows from now.
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There's no way.
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No, you're going to tie all this together.
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There's actually a point where Bill is like, it's not the Jews, it's some Jews.
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Nailed it.
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Nailed it.
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There we go.
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There we go.
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Yeah, there is a certain element of tap the sign to it's not the Jews.
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You say, ah, tap the sign, it's not the Jews this time, god damn it.
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So Hyrum Abiff is a mythical character in Masonic lore who is the chief architect of
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Solomon's Temple.
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He gets confronted by three fellow builders who demand to know his architectural secrets.
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What are the master mason's secrets?
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Right, right, right.
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But he refuses to tell them what he knows, so they kill him.
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The idea is supposed to be that he was the carrier of the secret Masonic word and that
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that secret died with him and was replaced by a fill-in word and the Masonic tradition
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from then on doesn't have the same secret that Hyrum Abiff had.
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But what they have is good enough.
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Jacques de Molay was the last head of the Knights Templar.
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There's no real way that these two figures can be the same person, but...
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Well, one isn't real.
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Timeline's a little strange, but in the 1700s some branches of Freemasonry began to believe
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that de Molay, while he was in charge of the Knights Templar, had come across some secret
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information at Solomon's Temple.
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He had discovered the stuff that was supposed to have died with Hyrum Abiff and those secrets
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were then passed down from him through Masonic tradition.
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So that's where this is coming from, that they're the same person.
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Last Crusade shit.
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Gotcha.
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And a lot of this is still just from that Manly P. Hall book.
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He's really just reading that stuff.
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And that's why it kind of doesn't make sense.
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Like a lot of it is...
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Some of it, naturally, is I'm playing clips, I'm not playing the whole thing.
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But even if you listen to the whole thing, a lot of it does not connect.
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Because he's taking just chunks of this book and reading it.
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And it's not going to make sense in a couple episodes.
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I don't think it will.
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I have faith there will be something.
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Maybe.
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Here's what I always like about whenever people are talking about somebody else's religion,
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whether it's real or fake.
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They're always taking it very seriously.
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Like they never really account for, are there like Christmas and Easter mystery Babylon
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people.
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People who don't really...
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They're culturally mystery Babylon.
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You know like, hey man, we don't actually believe in all this sun and solar.
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We don't even think false cognates make any sense either.
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But you know, you just go along to get along.
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This is just how I was raised.
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Yeah.
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I was raised in mystery Babylon.
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Like, why are you judging me for this?
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I'm not like, you know?
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to destroy you.
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I just...
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You're the one making us enemies.
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Do you understand you're the one making us enemies?
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I am over here just like having a good time.
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This is you, Bill.
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Yeah, Bill.
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You're trying to do crusades, Bill.
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Leave us alone.
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Yeah.
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I do think that there is something ultimately incredibly funny if we go through all of this
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and the end result is like, hey, you know what?
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This mystery Babylon sounds pretty normal.
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Actually I'm sold.
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If it's even a stealth evangelical thing for mystery Babylon.
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I assure you it's not.
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I'm trying to start a religion.
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Once again, I do think Bill has not done a great job of convincing me that this is a
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mystery cult that is evil and has run the world.
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But you know, there's a lot of episodes left.
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So he has plenty of time.
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So the mystery school, they have set out some objectives.
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Their objectives are chiefly to get rid of ignorance, superstition, and fear.
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And that may sound cool, kids.
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But when you understand what that actually means, it's no good.
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Now these three destructive powers preserved to the modern mystery school known as Freemasonry
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as the murderers of the master builder Hyrum of Bith, who was really Jacques de Millet,
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are ignorance, superstition, and fear, what they call the destroyers of all good things.
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When you get even deeper into their teachings, you find out that ignorance, superstition,
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and fear stand for the state, the church, and the mob.
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What?
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And those are the things that they have sworn to destroy.
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Wait, what?
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They substitute themselves as the ruler of the world in a benevolent despotism, a totalitarian
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socialist state.
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Because from the very beginning, these people have been pure, true communists, socialists.
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So it's communism.
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We're getting that nailed down pretty strongly.
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Yeah, it's feeling like that.
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So yeah, the three builders that killed Hyrum of Bith are the enemies of the master builder
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are ignorance, superstition, and fear, which really translate to the state, the church,
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and the mob.
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Right.
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That makes sense somehow.
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It doesn't really, because the state doesn't have to operate from ignorance.
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The church can be deeper than superstition.
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I guess.
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And mobs aren't the only things you associate with fear.
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I think Bill associates fear with the state quite a bit.
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He associates fear with the church, too.
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You're afraid of God.
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You have a fear of God.
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I don't know.
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This doesn't make sense to me.
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No, it feels very arbitrary and very X to grindy.
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It is very much like, these are the things that I have personally chosen because I don't
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like them, not like these are the Mystery Babylon teachings.
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I mean, that just doesn't even make sense.
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So why would you wrap it in the mysticism part?
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Why even bother if you're against the state, church, and the mob?
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That's everybody, first off.
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That's literally everybody.
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That's literally everybody.
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Yeah, the mob, taken as...
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Bill is kind of understanding it.
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It's everybody.
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It is everybody as a thing.
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Right.
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So why bother with the ignorance and fear part?
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Just be like, hey, we're going after everybody who's not like us or something.
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I actually think that maybe there's a way to interpret this that looks a little bit
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better.
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Okay.
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And that is creating a world where the state doesn't operate from a mode of keeping people
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ignorant.
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Sure.
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Like a state that has more transparency and has more accessibility to people.
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Sure.
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A state that doesn't operate off of superstition and a population that isn't chiefly motivated
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by fear.
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I think that creating a state that's characterized that way is actually fairly positive.
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I agree.
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And it doesn't involve killing anybody.
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No.
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No.
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And I think this is another thing that I find fascinating about when somebody else is talking
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about somebody else's religion with a real like, fuck these guys kind of tone is, do
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you see that right there?
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There is a space for interpretation.
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If you are saying that the ISF is actually the state, the church and the mob, then maybe
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there's another Freemason sect over there that's like, actually it's blankety blankety
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blank.
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That's just as reasonable as you maligning this group for believing this shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's just, you're just choosing arbitrary shit that you hate.
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It's you, Bill.
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Yeah, Bill.
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You hate communists and probably Jews.
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Let's just get over that.
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Yeah.
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So the mystery schools were the original college and they taught you about dicks.
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Fair enough.
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You see the mystery schools were the original college run by Nimrod in the city of Babylon.
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Rod.
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And the college was a college of priests who practiced the religion of the sun.
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The college, the adepts, the initiates, the priests were scattered all over the world
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when Seth, the son of Noah, came with an army and defeated Nimrod.
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And this is where the legend really comes from, because Seth chopped Nimrod up into
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little pieces and scattered him all over the land.
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In the legend of the Osirian cycle, Cyrus was chopped into fourteen pieces.
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Isis came to put him back together again and bring him to life.
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To find all the pieces save one, the phallus, or the generative force, it is now known as
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the lost word of Freemasonry.
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And the phallus is represented by the obelisk, the monolith.
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It is the penis of Osiris, the generative force.
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It represents the lost word of Freemasonry.
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It represents the Luciferian philosophy.
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Yeah.
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George Washington also.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, he was murdered and chopped up into a bunch of pieces.
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His dick was eaten by a fish.
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So Isis was unable to find it when she recovered all the parts of his body.
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This gave the Nile a holy quality because the dick.
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The dick is in there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then Osiris made, or Isis made Osiris a fake dick for mummification, which is permanently
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erect.
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Right.
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And that became, you know, a piece of tradition.
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But the lost word is Osiris's dick.
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Yeah.
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And that's the teaching.
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You know, sometimes when you go back through a myth, here's an interesting thing that I,
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so somebody just put out a new abridgment and like commentary of Augustine City of God.
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So naturally I'm on it.
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But sometimes whenever you go back through like myths and stuff like that, it stops being
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so big and starts feeling like a little bit personal, like a little bit like a guy was
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like, okay, here's why my dick's not working tonight.
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You know, like sometimes it gets really specific where you're like, oh, it's always erect.
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Is it always erect?
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Why does it need to always be erect?
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What are you talking about?
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Well, because she, in this case it's because she made a new like non-human phallus.
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Right.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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That doesn't have the...
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To satisfy her.
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No.
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Well, maybe.
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See what I'm saying?
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Like when you take away the myth parts of it and remember there's a guy somewhere in
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some time period explaining all of this to other people.
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Yeah.
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The craft of myth writing is the intersection of some really grand thing and a human who
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is writing it.
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It's huge and tiny.
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There's something personal in it.
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It's a guy.
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There's a guy in there.
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You know, sometimes you can see the guy.
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That kind of even relates to Bill.
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He's talking about this really big thing, but there's also him in there.
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Yep.
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Totally.
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And his long dark nights where he felt alone because no one understood.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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His mystery Babylon.
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That's why he's got a fake phallus to get in everybody.
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Yeah.
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So the schools are about dicks.
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Sure.
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Also the Illuminati is real.
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Ooh, I have a question.
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Sure.
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Maybe this is something that's already been included in the parts that we haven't listened
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to.
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Maybe.
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Are we going to get to Merlin?
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Mm-mm.
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Not yet, certainly.
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Not yet, but do you think Merlin's in play?
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Because I feel like Merlin is very in play in this kind of conversation, right?
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King Arthur and all of that.
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It should be.
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If it's not, it should be.
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Yeah, right?
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I feel like Merlin should be somewhere in the background.
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He's got thoughts at the very least on Mystery Babylon.
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And in this world that we're conceiving of, he's totally real.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Merlin's got to be in here.
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If we get to episode 15 and we don't see Merlin, there's going to be trouble.
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There's going to be issues.
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So the Illuminati is real, and people who don't think it's real are dumb.
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That's true.
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And we get back to the issue of Atlanta.
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Oh.
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And those who rose to enlightenment were considered illumined.
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Collectively, they are known as the Illuminati.
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And all of you who have fallen for the scam that the Illuminati does not exist, they do.
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The term Illuminati merely refers to the collective body of those who are illumined or enlightened,
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and they are the Illuminati.
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Ambition, however, personified by hyphen, knowing that temporal power must die if divine
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power in the form of truth be re-established, put forth all its power again to scatter the
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doctrine.
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This time so thoroughly that it should never be rediscovered.
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If hyphen, as Plutarch has suggested in one of his manifestations, represents the sea,
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then it appears that this second destruction of Osiris may refer to the Atlantean deluge.
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There's Atlanta again.
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Atlantis.
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Atlanta.
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The same.
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Are they?
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Go to Atlanta, Georgia, folks.
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Drive around in that city.
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You will see pyramids everywhere.
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You will see 666 everywhere.
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You will see the symbols, the all-seeing eye.
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Yeah, man, Atlanta.
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The devil of the city.
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What is everywhere?
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What is everywhere enough?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, okay, so there's four or five.
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Is that everywhere?
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Have you ever been to Atlanta?
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I have not been.
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I don't think I've been to Atlanta, or I've been downtown Atlanta.
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Okay, so yeah, you've been downtown.
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No, I haven't been downtown.
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I've been around Georgia, but not to actual Atlanta proper.
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What does that mean?
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I mean, the city part of it.
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You've been to the suburbs of Atlanta?
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I guess.
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What the f- I was driving through Georgia.
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Okay.
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I don't know why I suddenly said something different.
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I have no idea.
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This makes me think you committed a crime in Georgia.
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I just suddenly was like- Why were you driving around Georgia?
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I don't know!
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No, what was I doing there?
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I would assume it would be like you had a show there or something like that.
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I think it actually was a college thing.
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I was going to visit some college in Georgia, and that's why my brain brought that up, even
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though it's unnecessary and unrelated to this conversation.
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Well, if you'd spent more time in Atlanta, you would know that the building codes there
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require that everybody live in a pyramid.
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Well, there you go.
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That does make sense.
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No houses, just A-frames everywhere.
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Is it a more efficient design?
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Nope.
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Should we be living pyramid style?
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I don't think so.
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Okay, fair enough.
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Also, Atlanta is not named after Atlantis.
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It was founded in 1837 and was originally called Martha'sville, but it was renamed Atlanta
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after the Atlantic Railroad because it was the end point of that line.
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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The Atlantic Railroad was named after the Atlantic Ocean, which has its name derived
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from the Latin and Greek words that mean Atlas.
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Atlanta does sound like Atlantis, though.
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Sure does.
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So you can see how Bill might jump on this and make a deep connection, but this is just
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dog shit.
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This is a decade before the Futurama episode, too, so there you go.
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I mean, obviously, Atlanta will eventually sink and then become Atlantis in the future.
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Hey, I could see it.
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I wouldn't put it past them.
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Yeah, it makes sense.
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Magic City.
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Strip club in Atlanta.
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Frequently referenced by rappers.
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Atlantis was a magic city.
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There we go.
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I think it makes sense.
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Ying Yang in this thing.
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Where's the sun in that?
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Probably up at the One Tweezy, another strip club referenced by Jermaine Dupree in Welcome
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to Atlanta.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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Yeah.
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It's where the players play.
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Right on those things like every day.
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Big beats, hit streets, see gangsters rolling.
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Parties don't stop till six in the morning.
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This is what we know about Atlantis.
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Sometimes you do listen to those old lyrics and you just go, hmm, yep, that's what they
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said.
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They sure did.
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So, Bill, he pulls like a real Alexey move here in this next clip.
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Listen to this carefully, folks.
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This is their own words.
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In the dark retreats of Islam, the Sufi explored the depths of nature.
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Among the Jews, the learned Rabbins unraveled the intricate
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skein of Kabbalism.
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Among the Greeks, initiates rose to life through the nocturnal rituals of
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Eleusis.
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In India, neophytes were brought to the contemplation of the triple-headed
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Brahma at Elephanta and Elora.
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Through the Middle Ages, the Alchemists in their retreats explored the infinite
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chemistry of existence.
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The Illuminati sought the pearl of great price, and
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Rosicrucian adepts sought to recast the molten sea.
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So at the beginning of that clip, Bill said, listen carefully, this is their own words.
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And then he's just reading a passage from this Manly P. Hall book.
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It's the same thing that Alex does when he's like, they tell you in their
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writings, they reveal it all.
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And then he's talking about like, none dare call it conspiracy, or W.
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Cleon Skousen.
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He's talking about someone else has written a book about this crazy shit, and you're pretending
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that it's like the first-hand document of this mystery religion.
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And it's not.
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You're cheating.
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Yeah, I mean, well, it's a lot less convincing if you say, they say it in the things we write
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about them.
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That sounds very suspicious, in fact.
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Yeah.
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It's not, it's skipping a step.
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I know they say it because we have a long tradition of all the people we trust who also
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are not allowed to speak to them at all, of knowing all of these things about them, who
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again, we're not allowed to have any contact with.
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Yeah, but I think that if you hear that clip, and you have listened to a bit of Alex, you
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see the same kind of handling of information.
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That tradition is deeply ingrained in this kind of entertainment content.
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Yeah.
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And I find that fascinating, the depths of these connections.
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It's almost something that you can't believe that Alex would consciously be mirroring.
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But he is.
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Well, I think it makes a certain type of sense, okay?
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In so far as the way they treat information that they say comes from them, you can't trust
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it because they're obviously liars, so you have to read between the lines there.
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Whereas the information you can trust comes from people like Manly P. Hall, it's only
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from him, you know what I mean?
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You can only trust the people who are lying about what they're saying, because they're
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lying whenever they say what they're actually saying.
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Yeah, maybe, but when you're saying it's in their own words, you can't then be reading
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someone else's words.
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Right, well we interpreted their words from, oh fuck off, yeah.
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There's a misunderstanding or disrespect of what a primary source means, and I think that
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that's indicative.
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Right, because the underlying truth of it is, I'm telling you that it's in their words,
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but I'm not going to give you their words because I know you wouldn't understand it.
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You wouldn't be able to interpret it the right way.
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You would listen to them say stuff like, we want to use the intellect, and you'd believe
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them, you idiot.
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So I'm going to tell you what they think.
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Yeah, it's cheating.
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Yeah, it's cheating.
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So we have one last clip here, and it has more to do with Osiris's dick.
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Okay.
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Osiris's dick is apparently very important.
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Oh right, that makes sense.
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Thus the physical body of man is definitely tied up in symbolism with the creature which
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conceived Sun Horus, a term concealing the collective body of the perfected adepts who
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were born again out of the womb, swallowed the triple phallus of Osiris, the threefold
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generative power.
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This golden phallus is the three-letter word of Freemasonry concealed under the letters
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A U M.
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And all of those of you in the New Age movement, or all of those of you who fell for all these
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gurus who came over here and taught you to sit and meditate, and while you were meditating...
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Idiots.
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Communists.
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Come this Aum A U M.
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You got us.
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The golden phallus is the three-lettered word of Freemasonry concealed under the letters
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A U M.
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How do you feel sheeple?
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Why do you do these things?
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How do you feel?
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Here's the other question I have for you.
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If this is something that they presumably believe, then at some point somebody is explaining
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that this to somebody else, like this is what we believe, I am going to tell you that the
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golden phallus is A U M.
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And then what do they say?
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How do you feel now sheeple?
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Like what?
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Yeah, you meditate on the dick.
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Yeah, okay.
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I mean I guess that's fine.
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I guess.
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I mean like Aum also is like from Sanskrit.
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You're mixing up traditions entirely here in order to make this Atlantis connection.
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Type of that style of connective tissues there.
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And I will say that what do you think now sheeple?
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That's not in the Manly Pee-Haul.
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That's straight up bells.
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I imagine that.
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I imagine that.
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Yes.
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That really feels so much like what this is.
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It is an incoherent tying together of disconnected things, reading long chunks of text from Manly
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Pee-Haul, and then Bill editorializing some condescending and slightly aggressive thing
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about how smart he is and how he's seen through the riddles.
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And it's kind of funny.
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It is.
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It is.
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It is weird because it feels like...
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How would I put this?
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I guess I think my feeling about Bill is the amount of effort that a lot of these people
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put in versus the amount of reward they get is so low compared to so high.
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And I feel like Bill is working too hard for the amount of success he's getting.
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Yes.
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I think that he definitely never enjoyed the lifestyle that Alex has enjoyed in his life.
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And I think that Bill probably puts in way more effort.
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Way more effort.
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Now at the same time, a lot of that effort is not reflected in these episodes because
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behind what appears to be effort, he's just reading this Manly Pee-Haul book and not saying
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that's what he's doing.
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There is an illusion of more work than is actually being done, perhaps.
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But yeah, in terms of reward, a lot of these other scammers were able to monetize much
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more effectively.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, it is like he's reading the whole book though, which isn't what any of
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these idiots would do.
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They would be like, first line of chapter one, all right, I've finished the book.
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Now I'm just going to make up a bunch of bullshit and say that that's what was in the book.
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I can't imagine that this entire series is just reading this book.
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I hope not.
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It can't be because he is also jumping around a bit.
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And I've listened deeper into, I don't remember a whole lot of it, but I've listened to more
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of this.
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I do think it evolves into other subjects than this Manly Pee-Haul book.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I think I give him a little more credit for work than he deserves.
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I think though...
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And I think you might be too.
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I think it's more just that my bar is so low.
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Yes.
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That's true.
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We're used to Alex doing nothing.
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Absolutely nothing and being rewarded beyond your wildest dreams.
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This feels like he's working too hard.
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Make $100,000 in a day because you read a tweet.
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Absolutely.
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That's Alex style.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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At least this has some appearance of craft.
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I don't think that you could do this series or this episode without him sitting down to
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prepare.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And that at least indicates some level of I have intent.
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I have a point I'm driving at.
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The point may be stupid and also maybe being conveyed poorly.
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But at least there is like, you can imagine him sitting down before the show with some
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papers and being like, alright, here's the plan.
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I think that's what it is.
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I think it is exactly that.
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I don't think there's a cold read here.
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And that is what no matter how much effort Alex or any of his ilk put in, sooner or later
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you hear them do a cold read.
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Where it's like, you've clearly never read that before in your life and now you're going
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to improvise off of it.
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This feels like he has read the book in advance.
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He's done his homework.
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Yeah, he's done some homework.
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I think the way I would boil it down is that intent.
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He has an intent and there is an effort to follow through on that intent.
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Whereas Alex I think is killing time.
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Most of the time.
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And even though I think that the point that Bill is making is stupid and he's doing a
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bad job, I still think that there's...
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Do I say respect for an effort?
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Maybe?
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I mean, you know, like, the best turd, still the best turd, you know it's a turd.
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But at the end of the day, you're like, well, that one's better than the other ones, I guess.
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I don't know what to tell you.
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It's a blue ribbon turd.
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What are you going to say?
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It is relatively speaking.
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I know it's still a shit.
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But relatively speaking, that one's impressive.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we've learned a lot about dicks and Atlanta.
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I don't know.
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I enjoy this.
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So I'm going to keep doing it.
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But we'll be back to Alex next time.
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I feel like this entire episode could be summed up with just a guy going, Atlantis, Atlanta,
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Atlantis, Atlanta, ah, ah, ah.
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Doing a lot of ah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yep.
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I think that would be the theme of all of these episodes is ah.
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Ah?
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Yeah.
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Well, we'll check back in.
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I have another episode for you.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Leo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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I'm Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
