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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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Uh, we're a couple of dudes who like to sit around
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and worship at the altar of Celene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor-dan.
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Quick question for you.
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'Sup?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Uh, my bright spot today is, uh, yesterday, uh, as
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we're recording this, was the first time I played tennis this year.
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Hey.
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With my cousin, we went out, we played some tennis.
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It was supposed to be warmer, and it turned out to be only 40 degrees.
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And there's snow on the ground right now.
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And there's snow on the ground right now.
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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It was very cold. It was very cold. Uh, but, yeah, we did it. It was great. I'm- I'm an old man.
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Mm-hmm.
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Everything hurts. Uh-
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But, uh, w- rank yourself on a scale of zero to Alcaraz.
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I'll tell you what.
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Mm-hmm.
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Here's what happened, though. And I'm- I'm not gonna put my business out there too much.
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Okay.
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This was the first set of tennis I had won off of Ben
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for, uh, (blows raspberry) , the entire time we've known each other.
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This feels more like you're putting Ben's business on the streets.
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Very first time I've, uh, I've won.
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Uh-huh.
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The very first time. It was great.
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'Cause it feels less like you talking about your business-
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It was magical-
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... than shitting on his game.
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No, no, no. I don't wanna... I'm just telling you that I
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was, I was amazing. It was truly an incredible per- performance from me.
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It's gotta be either you were amazing or he was bad.
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He wasn't great. It was not a good day for him. (laughs)
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Ooh.
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See look at this, talking that shit.
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But he's-
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One day back on the tennis court-
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Exactly.
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... and you're already peacocking around.
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Well, what am I going to do? Not peacock around? I've never won before.
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You gotta do it.
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I get one shot.
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How did the re-, like, uh, was it, like, uh, three sets?
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(laughs)
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I panicked.
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Close enough. I liked it.
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I don't know.
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It was great.
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Yeah.
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No, we, uh, we played one set. It was six to four.
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Six to four.
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Six to four.
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25 or 6 to 4, a great song by Chicago.
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That sounds true.
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It is. That is definitely true.
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I don't know about the great song part.
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Yeah, it's great.
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(laughs)
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A lot of horns.
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All right. What's your bright spot?
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Um, I was thinking about how there have been... Like, I haven't had a food thing in a while.
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Sure.
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And I think that, uh, there's... It's been slow over at the unnamed grocery store.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I think that w- what it has to be now, 'cause I think that was unsatisfying anyway, as a 2025 thing.
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Sure.
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D- I'm gonna eat something strange and
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d- d- d- diminishing returns.
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Sure.
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If people want to send things to the PO box that are fun, maybe,
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you know, we could al- I'll try some fun foods and shit that people send.
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Right.
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But, I think more interesting
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is 2025 is the year of this pinky ring.
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I was literally... You were... You've b- you've been swirling it around.
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I have.
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You've been playing with it like a m- like a conductor.
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And I think that what it should be is-
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(laughs) It's just a pinky ring.
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Right.
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Okay.
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But I can review life situations
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as someone who's wearing a pinky ring.
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With a pinky ring versus without a pinky ring.
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Right.
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Okay.
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And so I can say that I went to the grocery store with a pinky ring.
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That is true.
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It felt
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almost no different.
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Almost no different.
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Almost no different.
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Almost?
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Well, I, uh, there was the slight awareness that I was wearing a pinky ring.
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There's a little weight. There's a little weight on your pi- (laughs)
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(laughs)
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Your pinky is slightly heavier.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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And there was the, uh, walking to the store-
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Uh-huh.
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... and thinking like, "Am I gonna feel, uh... Is everyone gonna be staring at my pinky ring?" (laughs)
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Do you... It... Okay. That, that is an interesting question.
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There was a self-consciousness.
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There was a question that I had been avoiding-
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Uh-huh.
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... about the pinky ring.
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Yeah.
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Are you inviting attention on the pinky ring?
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How would I do that?
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I have no idea. You've been swaying it about...
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We... In front of, uh, in front... In this conversation, you've been pulling a lot of pinky moves.
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I feel like I'm talking-
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You Dr. Eviled me a couple of times.
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I did not Dr. Evil you.
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(laughs)
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Um, no, I don't think I am.
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I don't think I'm bring- bringing attention.
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Well, I mean, do you want people to notice the pinky ring?
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Not really. I want to experience what life is like, uh-
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Okay.
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... within a, a pinky ring prism.
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Right. But what is-
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Prism, not prison.
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Nice. I like that. But, and this is something that I don't know, perhaps you'll discover
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obviously, as this is your foray into pinky ringdom.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh,
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I just have always assumed that if you wear a pinky ring, people are gonna be like, "Oh, hey.
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So put that on your pinky?" (laughs) You know, like all the time.
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So far, zero questions.
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(laughs) Okay. Okay. Okay.
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(laughs)
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Just-
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Also, no one has given me, like, tribute as if I'm a mob boss-
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Fair enough.
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... or anything, so-
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That's fair.
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... I've avoided that.
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No tips of the cap? No nothing?
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C- I don't know if I've seen many people wearing caps that are, are tippable.
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(laughs) Fair enough. Fair enough.
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Um, so, uh, I'll keep you up-to-date on various, uh, life situations that I get in-
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I like it.
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... and how my pinky ring affects or does not affect them.
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Excellent.
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Um, so today, Jordan, we got an episode to go over.
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Mm-hmm.
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We're gonna be talking about February 5th, 2025.
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All right.
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Uh-
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Year of the pinky ring.
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Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That is what it is.
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That is what it is.
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And the world shall, uh, accept that-
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(laughs)
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... I guess. I don't know.
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Um, so this episode, uh, is, uh, interesting. Alex, uh, lies about a fair number of things.
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True.
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And, uh, is full of shit. And so we'll talk about that.
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Uh, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, DD MegaDooDoo, you are the love of my life, you make me the happiest wonk alive. Thank you for
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marrying this loser little titty baby. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Uh, next, happy birthday to Tracy who has one download from God, uh, away from her PhD.
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Keep eating your chicken fried steak and you'll be
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Dr. Tracy in no time. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And the transgender global human rights
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student who listens to Knowledge Fight while
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giving Black Muslim immigrants' government money, thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a technicrack, uh, technicrack in the mix. (laughs)
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Technicrack.
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So thank you so much too. I'm Redneck Matt, and my wife thought Alex was calling Jar Jar Binks a loser little
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titty baby. Sorry for exposing you to Alex, honey, but I love you. Thank you so much. You're now a technicrat.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser
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little, little titty baby. I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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It really does sound like he's calling Jar Jar Binks a loser little titty baby, doesn't it?
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I mean, I d- I'd, I wouldn't... If he were to-
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Mm-hmm.
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... I would not get in the way.
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Do you remember who he was calling a loser little titty baby?
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Uh, was it Schumer?
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Nope.
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Was it, uh, was it Bryan Cranston?
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Nope.
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Oh.
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You can keep going if you like.
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No, I don't think I want to.
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Colin Kaepernick.
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Colin Kaepernick?
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Yep. (laughs)
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Really?
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Yep.
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Man, that feels like a million years ago.
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It sure was.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, today, uh, we're jumping off here, and, uh, turns out Trump is, uh, seizing control of the CIA.
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Okay.
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And Alex is thrilled about it.
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Trump and Musk and us, all of us, we are over the target.
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Now,
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the developments are so incredible that I am gonna do my very best to go over it all here
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and
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break the latest information as it comes out.
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But
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what has been revealed and then what, what Trump's doing, uh,
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Trump offered t- t- to have all the employees of the CIA quit
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and buy them out.And then if- under the law, if they don't accept
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that, he says all of them, knowing it's the bad ones that'll quit.
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Then under the law, they have no recourse when he fires them.
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That's why he's doing that.
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All of the CIA.
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That's how you abolish an agency and then of course, Trump won't
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completely get rid of it, he'll just put his people in.
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This is not a person celebrating a president attempting to make reforms
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in the CIA. This is celebrating a hostile
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takeover of the country's intelligence community, replacing the CIA with ideologues and loyalists.
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Trump's new administration had the CIA send them an unclassified email that listed the past two
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years' hires by their first name and last initial, which was a crazy thing to do.
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Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee said, quote, "An
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absolutely unnecessary counterintelligence risk was assumed today." I wish this was more
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interesting or complicated than it is, but it's pretty simple. Trump is
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taking over the government and purging dissent with the offer of a buyout being the carrot
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that's gonna be followed by the stick if need be.
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Sure.
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Also, Trump did this in early February and he's still alive. If the premise is supposed to be that
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JFK was killed 'cause he was gonna get rid of the CIA, this kind of hurts the conspiracy.
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Like, he shouldn't be able to do this-
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No.
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... based on everything that Alex's world view is built on.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it does feel like, first off, if you have
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a big bad guy with a super powerful secret intelligence agency,
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um, the idea that it would just go, "Oh, the boss says we have to be dumb now,"
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Uh-huh.
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... sounds crazy.
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Right.
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Uh, so, you know it's real because apparently our agencies just go, "I guess we're stupid."
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Hmm.
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The end.
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I guess we're being forced to be dumb.
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(laughs) We-
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This is really unwise.
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We're, we're, we're the people who have our tendrils inside the governments of every major nation
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on this planet. Oh, sorry, we're dumb now. My bad.
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So, the reality and the existence of the present undermines the premise of the past-
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Yeah.
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... uh, in Alex's world.
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Yep.
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And I think that that's something that I, I can't imagine how he deals with.
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Uh, I th- I would actua- you know what? I might even go so far as to say the existence of the present
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should kind of re- re- make us think about how we all thought about the past.
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I think, sure. No, I definitely think so. I think so.
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(laughs)
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That's, that is a universal thing, um,
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but it's particularly pointed in the world of conspiracy theories.
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That's true.
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Um, and the overpowered, all-powerfulness of like, let's say, the CIA.
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Yeah. No, I mean, you know, in a way you could say
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that this was the culmination of conspiracy theorists wanting one of them to be true.
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Mm-hmm.
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So they made a conspiracy happen
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and then it took over, and now they're realizing that they were never really that smart in the first place.
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No. And other ones were true, they just weren't that interesting to this brand of person-
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Right.
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... like Alex.
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Right.
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Anyway, Doge.
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Great.
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Great.
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I said it.
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The present is great.
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So, I have, I've been working on a theory.
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Yeah.
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And that is the second that someone says
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"Doge,"
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there should be an emergency button.
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Like, t- the idea that you would name this bullshit, fake, uh, government oversight thing-
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Yeah, absolutely.
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... after a meme coin.
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Yep.
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Like, it's just crisis. Crisis. Crisis.
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Sure.
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No, no, I mean, yeah, the, but one of the big problems that we
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have is whenever things are illegal, there is no immediate things happen button.
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If, if like Soros was, uh, doing a government oversight thing and it was named after a meme coin-
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Yeah.
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... that he had, but was doing a lot of stuff that I supported, still an emergency.
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Still an emergency.
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Still an emergency.
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That's how it works.
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So anyway, they're in the FBI now. (laughs)
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Cool.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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Then, Doge is inside the FBI. They've been there for two days. I told you, big
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stuff's about to break. The FBI has been illegally
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paying all sorts of groups, Infiltrate, to set people up.
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They paid the provocateurs, they had thousands of them there on January
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6th. The FBI director Persinger who's helped in Congress, he's already been caught in lies.
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It's a lot bigger than what's already come out.
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I mean, for God's sakes, there's video of hundreds of them
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in antifa gear putting Trump gear on. I mean, it's ridiculous, and Fed that broke through the windows, fake
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arrests and taking their handcuffs off and high-fiving them. We have them.
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So you're hearing the media, "Oh, it's about the J6
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Committee and the illegal stuff it did, destroying evidence, witness tampering, paying people,
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falsifying evidence." No, that's a small part of it. It, it's the people that ran the J6
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in Congress with Pelosi, quarterbacked the attack with a special FBI unit.
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We already know the name, we know who did it.
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So all this stuff about January 6th is bullshit, but
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if Alex has all these names and all that stuff, then he should probably report them. I know he whines about
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Ray Epps and all that shit, but based on the level of the case
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that he's saying he can make, he needs to provide more details.
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I thi- I think that, uh, Alex is telling a stupid story here.
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If Nancy Pelosi and the secret, uh, FBI unit here, they planned January
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6th, which in Alex's mind is a false-flag attempted overthrow of the country, am I supposed to
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believe that they left behind clues that Elon Musk's crack team of young racists are just gonna
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walk in and find? If they're willing to go through
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so much effort to break the law in secret to get their way, don't you
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think they would have killed Trump or Musk by now? They wouldn't just
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leave like, "Uh-oh, they're gonna find, they're gonna find the, the, the murder weapon."
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Yep.
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Please.
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Yeah.
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These globalists in Alex's head have the power to pull off any
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fantastic villain plot he can imagine, but are somehow limited by
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stupid shit like paperwork. If there's some evidence in the FBI that proves that Nancy Pelosi and a
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secret team planned January 6th, they aren't gonna leave it to some possible
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court injunction to say that Musk's guys can't look at that stuff.
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If they're evil enough and good enough at planning to handle the first part, they
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wouldn't handle the second part the way they have. It's character inconsistency.
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This is gonna become a major problem for Alex as the second Trump administration goes along.
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The opposition that he's built up as being all run by demons and
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super competent conspirators has shown itself to be
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pretty incompetent against Trump's blitz of seasoned power, which makes no sense.
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They're supposed to have superpowers. They can see the future and shit. They've been doing this since
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Jesus was alive.
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Yes.
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As time goes on, we'll likely see the institutional power that exists as an opposition party to Trump lose
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a lot of the traction that it has. The Democrats, not all but many, seem to be
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unable to navigate this moment politically, which limits the checks on
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power that Congress can have, and the Supreme
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Court is dubious at best. I imagine that we're gonna see a
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lot more grassroots type of entities that are gonna exist as forces, forces actually
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pushing back against Trump. So the move you're gonna
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see is Alex connecting these things to his existing villains.
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He needs to do that for narrative purposes, like how he used those
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fake contracts that someone found on, uh, online
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to claim that Soros was behind the Black Lives Matter protests.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, that's what's going to happen.
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Yeah.
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You're gonna see
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organic
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things connected to Hillary Clinton, you know?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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'Cause otherwise Alex can't tell those stories.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, uh, here, the one thing that I would, I, I think, uh, about these particular people
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is I feel a lot more comfortable when they and law enforcement are in a far more, uh, uh,
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uh, confrontational arrangement.
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Mm-hmm.
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I do not like them feeling like law enforcement has their back. That's no good. That is no good at all.
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You mean folks like Alex?
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Yeah. No, thank you.
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Well-
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No, thank you.
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... I think that there is a part of his brain that always kind of thought
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like, true law enforcement has my back.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Uh-
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'Cause true law enforcement is fascism. (laughs)
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Sure. And he had some of that.
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Yeah.
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But in, in, in reality, he wouldn't have any expectation that the police...... are going to-
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(laughs) Right.
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And now,
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I think you'd have much more of an expectation that like, "Nah, the system is on your side."
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I, I, I mean, yeah. Now's not the time
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to, uh, to be like, "Hey, the FBR sucks." Don't do it now.
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Hmm.
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Now's not the time.
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Well...
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(laughs)
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Yeah, it, it's not not to time though, too.
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Fair enough. (laughs)
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(laughs) I mean... Anyway, the globalists are done.
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Okay.
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They're fucking done.
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All right.
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Except maybe they're not. They might do a suitcase nuke.
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God damn it.
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Maybe?
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Okay.
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But they're done.
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The entire old globalist order is...
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been swept away.
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And their death throes
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are spectacular and also dangerous. And we're now at the maximum point of danger, where the COG
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globalist system is being taken over by Trump.
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I'd use the analogy of in
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2001: Space Odyssey, when the astronaut
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gets back here to turn off the AI that just killed the other
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astronauts. And he gets in the airlock and he's turning off the brain functions.
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And the robot's saying,
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"I'm afraid, Dave.
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I'm afraid."
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And then
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as his higher functions just turn off and he goes,
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"I'm losing my mind, Dave. Please don't, Dave.
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Please stop, Dave."
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And then finally, "I am a HAL 9000 computer.
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I was manufactured in Chicago, Illinois for the..." I mean, it, it's, it's, it's,
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it's
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happening.
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(whistles) And the globalists could set off suitcase nukes
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and blame Russia, Iran. They could kill Trump, blame Iran.
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That's the one big screw-up I see, is
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Trump saying, "If I get killed, I've put orders behind to
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totally obliterate Iran." Oh great, then the deep state kills you and then
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blames Iran. And then the public could possibly be convinced that it's true, and then they
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have their cake and eat it too. Not good.
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Not good.
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I, I, uh... Before we go any further-
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Mm-hmm.
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... I just wanna make sure 'cause I hope, I hope this is true.
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Now I'm not sure, right? Uh, the president can't leave, like, "You have to do this if I die" orders.
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I, I, uh, no- nothing's stopping anyone from doing that-
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Right.
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... in a free country.
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Right, but they can't do that, right?
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Uh...
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(laughs) Like, they can't do that. They can't
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be like, "Well, the president said it before he got murdered, so now we have to do it."
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Well, you see-
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Like, that's not okay.
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But you're talking about something different. You're talking about whether or not it's binding.
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Right, exactly.
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Anyone can make-
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Sure.
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... these orders.
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Sure. Fair enough.
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Once a person's dead-
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Fair enough.
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... you don't have to do it. (laughs)
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, no. I don't think so.
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That's what I'm saying. There are no binding,
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uh, y- we have no like, "Oh, he's the president fore- forever even if he's dead" rules.
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No.
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Okay.
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I, I don't think that you could, like, unearth some secret Abraham Lincoln missive-
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You don't know that now though!
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(laughs) No.
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You don't know anymore! (laughs)
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(laughs) I don't think you could do that. But that would be great. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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There'd just be a whole new industry of, like, forged-
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Discovering we're all Joseph Smith now. We're all finding-
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Yeah.
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... golden tablets left and right.
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Yeah. Just a bunch of forged executive orders from-
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Holy shit.
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... dead people.
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I've got your Monroe Doctrine here.
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Yeah.
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Boom! Found it!
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The new Monroe Doctrine.
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(laughs)
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Um, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think it opens up a
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very unsettling-
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Probably not a good idea.
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... world of possibilities.
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Yeah.
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But that was a good impression of, uh, Hal.
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(laughs) That wasn't terrible, I guess.
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So I think that oftentimes, people try to use, um, like, movie metaphors and shit-
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Sure.
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... to make th- concepts more understandable to laypeople.
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True.
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And I'm putting it in quotes 'cause it's-
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Yeah, yeah.
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... you know, it's a little condescending.
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Yeah.
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But, like, uh,
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i- in Alex's world, he just does
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movie stuff.
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Like, he's not even trying to, like,
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make a hard-to-understand concept more relatable.
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Mm-mm.
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It's just, "Oh, I thought of that movie."
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Yep.
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That's it. (laughs)
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's fucked up. He's stupid.
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Y- yeah. It's, uh, I think a lot of people want the idea to be like what you described as like, "Oh,
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well, I read all this Plato." Right?
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Mm-hmm.
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"But, you know, we're several thousand years later, so we've got a lot of culture built up, so I can kinda
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lead you through those ideas through Star Wars or whatever."
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Mm-hmm.
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Alex is like, "I saw a bird outside. That's like that movie. There's a Bird outside."
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Birdman.
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Yep. There we go. Nailed it.
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Um, also, Plato left behind
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some things to do after he died. (laughs)
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Oh, shit!
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(laughing) I just found them.
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God damn it!
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Yeah.
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What isn't binding these days?
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So, um, uh, Trump is, uh, trying to fire all these CIA people.
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Sure.
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And then he's gonna get rid of the Department of Education.
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All right.
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For people that don't understand statutorily,
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when Trump goes to all these federal agencies and says, "All of you can quit,
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anybody,
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and I'll give you a one-year buyout of your salary," in the Executive Branch under the law,
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there's a lot of people he can just get rid of outright, but, uh, other people, there's a p- procedure
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or they can have some legal standing and tie things up in court.
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So Trump has initiated
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the different laws and provisions that if he gives them a buyout plan
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and then they don't take it, they can be fired.
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So it's hilarious to watch all this is happening.
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Very funny.
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And then, of course, they said, "Why are you, you know, putting McMahon in, uh, at, uh,
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Department of Education?" He said, "To shut
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it down. But first we gotta find out where all the money that's been stolen or the criminals
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are, but we'll, we'll be shutting it down and giving it back to the states."
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And they just go, "Ugh."
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They're like, "You're not gonna shut it down, are you?"
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He's supposed to say, "Oh, no, media.
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No corporate media. I, I, I... Yeah,
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I'm gonna shut it down." And they just go down the list of the agencies that are (whistles)
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who are globalist parasites at war with us on record.
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This kinda has to feel like an insult if you're Linda McMahon.
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Hmm.
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The only reason that you would be justified as a nominee for the Secretary of Education if-
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is if the plan's to destroy the agency.
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Yeah.
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Kinda feels like, uh, maybe she's actually just a super rich person who Trump knows well and is eely, easily
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controllable based on the dirt he undoubtedly has on her and her husband.
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What could, what dirt could they possibly have on them?
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I mean... (laughs)
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Those people are clean as a whistle-
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Yeah.
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... my friend.
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Yeah, when you think of pillars of the community, you think of Vince fucking McMahon.
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Absolutely.
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Um,
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come on now.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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I w- I would like that. I think, I think
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that would be a compliment to me, personally, if somebody was like, "Oh, the only reason Jordan was hired to
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helm this organization was clearly to destroy it."
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Mm-hmm.
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Because that would be like, "Yes, that's who I am.
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That's what I'm here for." Right? "You have, you have correctly understood me."
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Sure.
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I don't know if that's a compliment for Stephanie McMahon 'cause I think
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she thinks she's going to really revolutionize it-
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Well, here's the good news.
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... and make it better.
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Stephanie McMahon is her daughter who got kidnapped by Triple H-
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Right, whatever.
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... and married in Las Vegas.
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Right, right. Linda McMahon is her... Why?
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And then was kidnapped by the-
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Jesus Christ.
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... dark-
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Why do we even say Stephanie McMahon?
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Why-
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It's just because.
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Because she's-
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She's her actual daughter-
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Yeah.
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... who was kidnapped-
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By Triple H and then married.
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We're not really gonna allow this to happen, right?
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Uh, barely we are.
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What if it is all a work?
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Have you considered that? What if this is all prof-
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The government is now WWE?
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... the whole... Yeah, absolutely.
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Hmm.
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Well,
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I think the good news is-
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Yeah.
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...
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that
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Trump is a heel.
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Okay.
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And they generally lose at the end.
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There we go. We've got, we've got positive-
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So that's positive.
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Yeah, we got positivity going! I like this.
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I guess.
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(laughs)
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Uh, but I, I worry that in the world of,
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uh, modern time and, and the McM- McMahon family, maybe-
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Yeah.
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... Trump isn't a heel.
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Okay, let me throw this out there.
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Mm-hmm.
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Undertaker.
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Right.
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All right?
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Well, he's Mark now. Mark Caloway.
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Supreme Court building.
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Mm-hmm.
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Top of it. Choke slam.... Trump to the bottom. You know what I'm saying?
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Well, I, I, you-
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That's dramatic.
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You know, there's a thing called Wrestler's Court, uh,
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where people would, if they, if they violated the sort of rules of, uh-
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Kayfabe?
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Uh-
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The like?
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Yeah, that could be.
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Okay.
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Or if they just, uh, were kind of dicks to the other wrestlers, and-
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Fair enough. Yeah.
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... they would have to go to Wrestler's Court.
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All right.
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And Undertaker presided over that. So he could be in the Supreme Court.
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Hell, yes.
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He has experience.
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Hell, yes.
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(laughs) Yeah.
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We have already made a much better country-
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Oh, God.
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... in such a short period of time.
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Yeah. Pack the Supreme Court with legends.
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(laughs)
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(laughs) Stone Cold, he's been there.
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I finally found out what Austin 3:16 means, so I'm excited.
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That's true, yeah. You now know.
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(laughs)
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So Musk-
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Yeah.
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Elon Musk is fucking great. And we know that 'cause Alex says it every day.
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Okay.
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And so he can hire anybody he wants, and so he sends in
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Elon Musk, that knows how to go into a company. Look what he did
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at X. Look what he did at, eh, everywhere. Look what he did with
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Tesla. That wasn't doing well till he came in and got it.
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Then he slept and lived at the factory for a year till he got it done.
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So, no, I mean, Musk is everything you've heard and more.
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(coughs) So, so of course he's the guy to send in. Totally legal, totally lawful. So they get
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Hakeem Jeffries and
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Pocahontas. I've got all the clips here,
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saying, "He's in your Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. He's stealing it all right now.
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He's giving it to the Communist Chinese. He, he's in your personal data."
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Oh, and all these globalist commies weren't?
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He's not in the little data. He's in the big chunks where hundreds of millions here, billions there.
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Uh, they just released last night 100 billion
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that was given in COVID relief to, quote, "Europe" to all these, quote,
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"scammers" that were just set up. And let, yeah, scammers, globalist CIA,
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Soros groups, that's coming out now.
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And then, oh God, it was set up and they just got 100 billion, all
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of it got stolen, every dime. (whistles) Precision incompetence.
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Quote, "Europe." So it's interesting that Doge discovered this 100
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billion in fraud around COVID relief spending, because an
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AP investigation from 2023 found, quote, that, "Fraudsters potentially stole more than $280
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billion in COVID-19 relief funding. Uh, another 123 billion was wasted or misspent."
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This investigation was made possible by the Biden Administration's Department of
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Justice having a Pandemic Response Accountability
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Committee, which was overseen by Michael Horowitz, who was an inspector
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general. Surprisingly, he wasn't one of the ones that, uh,
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Trump immediately fired after getting into office, but he probably won't last, uh, all that long.
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Mm.
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This huge amount of fraud was facilitated by pandemic relief programs that began during Trump's first term
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and were run with almost no oversight. Because the severe need to, uh, aid small businesses
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and workers while so many businesses were closed, it just created a situation that was very easy to exploit.
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Yeah.
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It is very unfortunate. According to the Associated Press, the
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government has charged 2,230 people for this kind of fraud as of 2023
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when this report came out. Doge is itself a fraud.
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Since beginning this campaign to pretend to cut
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government spending, they've posted a ton of
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dishonest numbers meant to make Musk look more competent than he is.
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For instance, there have been grants that they've claimed to have canceled within USAID
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that have already been paid out. So in essence, they're claiming the value of those
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contracts as savings, where in the real world, they haven't saved anything.
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In other cases, they've made really simple and intentional errors.
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There was a case where Musk claimed that he'd cut three USAID agreements that combined up to $2 billion.
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He got that number because they pretended that each program was worth $655 million,
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but in the real world, they were all contained within the same $655 million contract, so he was triple
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counting it. They're making mistakes like this because Doge and Elon are working from the same
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playbook as Alex. They're abusing the cement while it's wet, knowing that
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this is the only time when you can make an imprint on it.
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You rush out with all these, uh, flashy headlines about billions of dollars, perfect for everyone on
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social media to repeat and get all worked up about, because you know that if you
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waited until people had access to relevant information, your narratives would have
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zero impact on that dry concrete. Alex understands this dynamic, and he's built an empire of bullshit
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on it. But now we have a government behaving in the same way.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which kind of helps you understand why, like, there is a gravitational
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pull between Musk, Alex, Trump. Like, there's, there's, um, an underlying, very much bigoted worldview-
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Sure.
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... that they all share.
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Yeah.
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But there is also, like, an operational, like, this is the way this works-
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Yeah.
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... kind of, uh, similarity.
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Yeah, and now that they've got a situation where they can assert something
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and no longer are we worried about, like, a pr- I'm, I'm, I, no- I don't think anybody would be
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or should be worried about a propaganda agency
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anymore, because they'll just say something and then people will defend them for free.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know, and then the fight will happen and it'll just be the
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fight. And it's the same fight that's been going on for 30 years or whatever.
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Well, and if you have any concerns about anything, Elon owns Twitter, so, like-
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There you go.
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(laughs) You know, I think-
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Yeah.
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... he's-
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Who gives a shit?
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Like, if you're, if you're at all worried about messaging, uh, don't be.
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Say something and then it'll be true-
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Right.
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... until it's not, and then it won't matter.
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Yeah.
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Huh?
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And I, I think that you also should be, like... (sighs) I can't imagine
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why anyone would be concerned about, like,
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saying something that would get them in trouble. If it, you know, like-
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Yeah.
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... Elon probably for a lot of these tweets, in a, in a normal
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world as we've
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understood it-
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Yeah.
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... as we were younger, you'd get arrested for that.
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Yeah.
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The, like, it's not so much a free speech issue.
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It is a incitement and, uh-
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It's a whole mess.
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It's a violation of privacy.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's a violation of all sorts of things. Um, and, and that's just not an issue anymore.
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Nope.
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So that sucks.
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Eh.
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(laughs)
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But it turns out
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that Doge-
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Yeah.
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... is sort of a front organization.
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That, oh, okay, mm, nope. Hold on. Hold on. Before we go any further.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, the idea that this
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efficiency agency would be a front agency
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renders all words meaningless.
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Ah, but do you think Alex is in favor of it as a front organization?
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Obviously I'm gonna go with the latter.
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Yeah, of course, because he loves it.
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Yeah. Yep.
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Now Doge, for two days,
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is at the FBI headquarters.
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And people go, "Oh, Doge, that's
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Elon Musk's computer programmers." No.
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That's what the media focuses on, and they're great.
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You know, that know, can find the back doors,
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where the back doors are. You know, they built the NSA modern system. We've had the former director of it on,
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William, many, many times.
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With, starting in the '90s when they, quote, "upgraded it" with back doors for all of the
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CIA fronts
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and contractors, Booz
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Allen, you know, all of them.
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And that's all getting shut off.
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So it's the opposite of what they say.
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But, but who's really at the FBI is all of Kash Patel's intelligence people,
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and that's from the Department of Doge, where Trump can immediately send his teams in to audit
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and then instantly start flooding the corruption out, flooding the crimes.
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And you try to even chronicle it, it's literally
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thousands of stories just in the last 24 hours. Here's another one.
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(coughs)
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And I already knew this. I've explained this for years. It's come out many times but, but not the full
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gravity. You hear about in Europe where the government
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pays the private media, but it's really state-run. You hear about the UK and Canada,
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'cause they don't even hide it.Well, just the USAID
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fountain, and that's small, but it was the most arrogant.
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And the State Department had full control of it, it's statutorily, so it was the
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easiest to go into and the most arrogant.
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They can tell the State Department's scree...
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What does that even mean?
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The damn law says State Department runs it and it reports to them.
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S- so...
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you've got
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it coming out
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and- i- i- i- the people, it's already devastating.
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The New York Times, Politico, all of them,
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were getting hundreds of millions of dollars a year
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to attack patriots.
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Smoking gun.
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Mine truly, and Donald Trump, and his whole family-
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Smoking gun.
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... and Elon Musk, everybody else. Like I told you months ago, it's not just 300 million
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that Biden put in a year ago to Reuters, that's MI6, to then
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run hundreds of other publication attacks on Elon, his family, his businesses, PIs, harassment.
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I said, "It's gonna be a lot more."
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And now they found b- b- b- b-
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b- b- b- b- billions, over two billion dollars in what they just released yesterday,
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of
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federal money
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given to the corporate media.
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So, if I understand Alex correctly, Doge is a
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fake organization that Trump created that's full of hackers who report only to Elon
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Musk, which serves as a front group for Trump to send in loyalists in the, like, the organizations, uh, like
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the FBI, to internally investigate government bodies that they don't like.
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If Doge is a way for Trump to send in Kash Patel's people to
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subvert the law, it really seems like a flagrant conflict of interest for Doge to be looking into the FBI.
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I don't know, I, I, this is all insane and it's just really funny to imagine
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2001 Alex Jones trying to justify supporting this shit.
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Yeah.
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But as that clip went along, we saw Alex seeming to get into a specific.
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He's covering Elon's revelations of all this supposed illegal
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spending by just waving at a giant pile and saying, "He's doing so much, it's impossible to cover it all."
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He seems to be continuing to do that here, but then he kind of gets into specifics.
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He says that USAID paid corporate media billions of dollars to run attacks on patriots.
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So Alex already misreported the story about the BBC getting money
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from USAID, which was actually money that went to the BBC
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Media Action charity, and he never made a correction about that, so he's not really
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starting off from a place of credibility.
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The next media outlet the people were posting a lot about was
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Politico, which was not propped up by government funding. USAID had paid, uh, Politico $44,000 in
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2- uh, 2023 and 2024 for subscriptions to Politico Pro, which is a policy tracking site.
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The government paying for those subscriptions is like how your job might cover your access to Microsoft
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Office. Like, this is just grasping at straws. Then Elon Musk made a
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lot of noise claiming that the New York Times was essentially state funded by posting a screenshot
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that appeared to show tens of millions of dollars being given to the Times. This was a
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fraudulently presented screenshot posted by notorious
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idiot and social media troll, Ian Miles
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Cheong, that included all spending listed on the,
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uh, website, USA Spending, uh, when you searched for the words, New York Times.
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Newsweek reviewed this and found that it included a bunch of unrelated spending
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to things like the New York Genome Center, so right off the bat, this story is a fraud.
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As it turns out, uh, in the past 17 years, the New York
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Times has received approximately $3.1
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million in government spending, almost entirely on subscriptions for employees.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously.
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The thing to understand here is that Elon Musk is the person who's supposed to be working around the clock to
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save all this government money, and he's amplifying bullshit tweets from known idiots that
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lie about what the government is spending.
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He doesn't care ab- at all about the core issue he's pretending to engage with. This is just a
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matter of finding things that shitheads online can misrepresent
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in order to provide cover for the real agenda that's going on that's being carried out behind the scenes.
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Yep. Yep.
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That's the whole thing.
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Jangle keys over here-
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Yeah.
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... kill everybody over there.
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Yeah.
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It's very uncomplicated.
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Yeah. And Alex is, uh, as he has wished to be, uh,
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i- irrelevant.
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Yeah.
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He is superfluous-
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Yeah.
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... he doesn't matter. All he's doing is sit arou- sitting around and reading the tweets.
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Yep.
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F- fuck off.
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I mean, yeah. I...
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I wish to be obsolete. Congratulations.
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You know what? To a certain extent, I will say this, there's a, if, if I'm him, right?
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I would really be mad at the Democrats right now for not having a better resistance.
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Mm-hmm.
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'Cause what else am I supposed to do? Just read tweets?
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Yeah.
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What are they doing? Fucking nothing!
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Yeah. All-
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This is wasteful.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And, and it's, it, I don't even think that you can credibly
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come up with too much of a storyline that involves peril-
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No.
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... to the, to Trump and-
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Absolutely not. What are they... Oh, they're gonna vote? Really?
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Are they gonna vote? 'Cause I bet it won't matter.
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I...
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(laughs)
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It's, if, if you're in Alex's position, it's, there's no credible bad guy kind of thing-
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Mm-hmm.
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... to do anymore, except for,
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I guess, a suitcase nuke might happen or something.
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Like, can you even imagine trying to paint Chuck Schumer as a bad guy now? Or like...
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I, I mean as, as a-
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You know, like-
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... i- incompetent or like-
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(laughs)
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... as, as someone who's not doing a good enough job, yes.
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Sure.
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But, like, the way that Alex try... (laughs) I mean, it was
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only like six months ago that he was screaming about Chuck Schumer not knowing how to cook meat-
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Yep.
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... (laughs) and, and stuff, but that feels real silly now.
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These masterminds no longer feel very mindy or mastery.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, um, Alex has, he- he's touched on this USAID spending.
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Mm-hmm.
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And it's all about how the media is all controlled, the government's paying off all of the corporate media-
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Sure.
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... and all this, um, and so he talks about his experience with that.
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Okay.
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And he is full of shit.
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They'll put out corporate news and you'll notice at the timestamp when they have an attack on me.
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Sometimes thousands of articles a day, 2017, '18, '19.
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And they would all have the same exact, to the second time code, and the articles were all very
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similar, because they all have agreements with each other too, that, "Well, we're all getting the same
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money. We, but we do want the ratings, so
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we all agree to publish at the same second." These are totally
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illegal, coordinated attacks. It's illegal for the federal government to censor somebody,
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but it's really illegal to have them pay people
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to do that.
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Musk just posted, "Not for long. This was obviously a huge waste of taxpayer money."
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Uh, that's an understatement.
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It's not just Politico, the Associated
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Press has been raking in millions of dollars in government money for years.
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The AP's bias also makes perfect sense. The bias?
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It's not a bias, it's a weapons system operation mockingbird of the CIA 2.0.
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But you guys have that now.
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Yeah, when you get 2,000 articles published the same second, that you go to kids' graves and piss on it,
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when you never did it and no one ever did it, but
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they don't care, that people are like, "Come on, Alex, there's not
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2,000 articles that say that you peed on graves."
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This feels very specific.
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Yeah, that's not fake.
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Come on, Alex, there's 500 articles there that you
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beat up your employees and there was a fish tank with a fish in it that belonged to
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one of the employee's nieces and you grabbed it and ate it.
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Never had a fish,
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never killed the fish.
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Got a fish tank at home, a saltwater tank, I love my fish. Got some fish been alive
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11 years, my little cutie. There's actually a name for it.
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Is this necessary?
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But the point is, is that...
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But my fish's name is Top Secret.
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The point is,
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is that that's from
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The Wolf of Wall Street
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and Finding Nemo, they combi- they're so lazy.
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Ah, so lazy.
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So lazy.
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It's interesting how this is like a compounding
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lie.On the first level, Alex is lying about what people have accused him of.
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No one claimed that he ate an employee's fish.
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His former employee said that he threw away a goldfish that another employee had brought to the
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office in a bag. Alex has attached the Wolf of Wall
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Street thing on, to create a straw man to pretend his
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enemies have accused him of something in a movie. Similarly,
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no one accused him of peeing on any child's grave.
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We've been over this a ton of times but Alex has created this accusation up
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so he can defend himself from a fake charge and ignore the reality of what he did and how his actions
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have affected people in deeply traumatic ways.
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These accusations aren't real and they weren't published in the corporate media, let alone in
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thousands of articles that were set to release simultaneously to the second.
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This is a further, uh, layer of the lie that
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Alex is trying to perpetuate. I think
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it's believable that some random people on Twitter accused Alex of eating a
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fish or peeing on someone's grave, but that would be
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the result of them not reading the actual stories about these subjects. It feels like,
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like it's often the case that Alex doesn't touch any real
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stories, choosing instead to complain about social media while pretending that he's
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upset about something real. So, he might
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see somebody say something in a tweet and be like, "Oh, the corporate media is accusing me of this." No.
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No.
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Nope.
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It's not real.
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It's like that joke, uh, you know, like, uh,
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but you fuck one goat and they call you a goat fucker forever, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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But it's like, he's the only one saying it. It's like, you're the only one calling... What are you doing?
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Hm.
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Nobody's calling you a goat fucker, man. Why are we t-
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we're calling you a guy who hit that kid 'cause you're a monster, like, what are we doing here? Now.
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Well, the reason, I m- it, I think in this case, it's fairly clear, and that is because
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the reality is that these parents received harassment
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that included someone saying they peed on their kid's grave.
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Yeah.
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And Alex knows deep down in his heart, he knows
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that he facilitated that.
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Yeah.
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And he knows that he profited off of what led to that.
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We did a whole thing.
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He absolutely knows that he made a choice
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to promote Wolfgang Halbig, who was
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actively harassing these parents, and is part of the inspiration for why people
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would have g- sent them a message in a letter that says that, "I peed on your kid's grave."
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Yep.
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Uh, Alex knows that, and he can't allow
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that part of his actual guilt to have any air to breathe.
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Right.
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So you create the fake accusation to accuse, uh, to, to defend yourself against,
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uh, which is fun, and I hope he's happy.
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Okay, let me throw this out at you.
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Yeah.
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What if
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Alex was in the movie The Cell starring Jennifer Lopez?
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Um, what abo- I don't think I've seen The Cell.
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Oh, you haven't?
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No.
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Oh, man.
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Gotta see it. It's really good.
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I- is it about A, a prison cell, or B, a cell of a body, like a, like a, d-
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Okay.
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... like a skin cell?
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What happens is, Jennifer Lopez goes inside your mind-
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Mm-hmm.
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... as like a therapist kind of thing, and then you see, uh,
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and then it's a serial killer's mind, uh, and it's Vincent D'Onofrio-
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Mm-hmm.
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... so it's all super cool, and it was made by the guy who made The
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Fall or something. I don't know, I don't remember it, but it's a great movie.
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And the point is, inside of Alex's subconscious would be a series of escalating monster tropes, uh,
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that would keep you from learning about the truth of what he knows about himself-
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Yeah.
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... psychologically.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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That's apt.
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Yeah, that would be a better way of going about it.
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Yeah.
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If, if you had seen The Cell-
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Yeah.
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... th- we could have had a nice conversation about it.
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Absolutely.
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Would have been great.
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Yep.
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This is now a mess. (laughs)
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Yeah. (laughs)
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I think you explained it all right, though.
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(laughs)
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I get, I get the point that you were making.
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(laughs)
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But I should probably see that.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex, uh, i- i- he's continuing on about this, uh, like, Politico had millions of government funding-
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Right.
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... and look what happens now.
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Ugh.
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Politico faces payroll issues amid revelations of US government funding.
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O- o- oh,
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Politico can't make their payroll because Trump froze just USAID,
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and let me give you a newsflash, my friends, that's a small piece of this.
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So Politico had a payroll issue on February
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4th, which they say was caused by a technical glitch that led to a delay.
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(laughs)
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By the morning of the 5th, when Alex is doing
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this show we're listening to, employees had already been paid, but because Elon and
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Trump have been targeting the media, and Politico is one of the
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entities that they've made erroneous claims about, the dipshits on
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Twitter began connecting imaginary dots.
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"This payroll issue must be because Elon stopped their money and now there's no money."
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This is right wing and online idiots engaging in
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a large-scale creative writing exercise, where
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they're coming up with the reality that they want to impose on everyone else. Effects
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happen, and then the cause is decided based on
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whatever the loudest voices on Twitter want it to be, and that becomes reality. But
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in the real world, USAID paid about $44,000 for subscriptions to Politico in the past two
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years, and it's estimated that Politico
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Pro subscriptions accounted for about $100 million in annual revenue, so
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I don't think that ending these USAID
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accounts would make that much of a, a dent in their ability to pay, uh, their payroll.
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It would leave the government workers without access to an important information
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tool and make their jobs harder, but
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the people who are now coming into the government
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aren't interested in doing those jobs anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sometimes you do just see in real time, like, a
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caveman 20,000 years ago, like, doing a thing, then lightning striking and being like, "That was God."
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Mm-hmm.
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"There we go. I connect those two things."
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"I better not do that thing anymore."
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"Very obvious that it, it was God who did it because I did the thing. Done, we're moving
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on. Everybody, don't do that thing 'cause it's God."
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Mm-hmm.
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And then, yeah, it's like,
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"You are a caveman. What are we doing here?"
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But this is even, like,
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kind of more dorky.
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Oh, it's way more dorky.
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Because-
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It would be a lot cooler if there was lightning.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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And, and it's like, uh, the effect is, Politico had a payroll glitch that got resolved quickly.
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Yeah.
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And then the cause is, uh, your God-
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Right.
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... uh, doing something on Twitter.
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Yeah. Oh, man.
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And talking some shit.
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It's not even, like, instructive for how you should behave. It's, it's just
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background noise.
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In the fantasy these people
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are like, "Oh, we, we're like Norse Viking people. We
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worship like Thor and Odin and shit." And then in real life, it's Elon Musk.
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Mm-hmm.
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Jesus, that's sad.
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Well, the val- the value of lightning
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striking and you telling yourself, "God did that, I can't do the thing I was doing when lightning struck"-
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Yeah.
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... is to protect yourself from being struck by lightning in the future.
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Right.
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It is a coping mechanism or something in order to gain control over your own, uh, actions and outcomes.
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Sure.
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If you are looking at this through the same prism, Politico had a payroll issue.
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Yep.
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And that's the lightning strike.
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Yep.
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I am not worried about being in that position.
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Oh, no?
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But you have to appease the God which is Elon Musk.
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It's sad.
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It's very sad. Everybody should do something else with their time.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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So Elon has taken over the government and that's totally cool-
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Sure.
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... 'cause Alex loves that.
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Um, Doge is inside the FBI,
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and
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how they do it is, Elon talks to all the experts, talks to all Trump people, talks to the
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intelligence people, and he says, "All right, well, we're waiting for
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you to get confirmed, give me your top people."
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And then
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they literally march in like an army,
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and then Musk puts one of his managers in there
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that just stands above and is re- constantly reporting back, and Musk has got like two, you know,
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two phone earpieces in his ear, (imitates siren) you know, just running around in, in battle joy
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because this is a real war, ladies and gentlemen.
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I went home at seven o'clock last night and I was mad at myself but I was cross-eyed tired
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and I just said, "I, I, I gotta, I, I gotta rest."Trump is a
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beast.
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Elon Musk is a beast.
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This is a fantasy version of what Elon's doing, but it's unbelievable
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to think that Alex could say this with a straight face. I get that he's in favor of what Elon and Trump are
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doing, but based on the entire premise of his career, there's no way Alex shouldn't think
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that this is anti-democratic tyranny. Like, what he's describing is so on its face
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fucking illegal-
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Yeah.
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... and just taking over. Like, it's, it's a coup.
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Yeah.
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What he's describing is
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he... Before people are, are confirmed
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to be the heads of organizations, "Give me your top
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guys and we'll send an army in to force these agencies in line."
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Yep.
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(laughs) Like, it's crazy.
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Yep.
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Like, uh, imagining that Alex could support that is... (clicks tongue) It's funny.
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If you replaced Musk and Trump with Soros and
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Obama, it becomes a little easier to understand what a sellout Alex
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is, except he's not really. This is in line with everything he's always
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wanted. The problem and the confusion comes from the fact that he spent all of those years pretending to
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support liberty and democracy. The John Birch Society could hardly have
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dreamed of a better turn of events. A billionaire who's deeply indebted to the government to enable the
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accumulation of his wealth is taking over the government and running propaganda
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campaigns against government spending that he doesn't like on the social media platform he owns.
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The opposition party can't do anything to stop it apparently, and the
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ruling party is just entirely capitulated to the billionaire
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who's reshaping the government in front of our eyes.
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Corporate interests will reap huge benefits in terms of tax
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breaks and relaxed or eliminated regulations and worker protections, and everyone else is going to get
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fucked. This is gonna cause huge problems, but
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Elon owns Twitter and I think he's kinda banking on being able to use that to divert blame
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onto other people for the consequences of his actions. And like,
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I just can't... I can't imagine someone who pretended to be
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Alex being this.
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Except that none of that pretend was real.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah, it is, it is an interesting thing, because
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it feels like... It was very obvious to me anyways, but I guess
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that's not how it, it was taught, uh, to these people at school, but, like, the Great Depression
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didn't happen in spite of the government regulating nothing and giving robber barons all of the money.
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Hmm.
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It happened because of the government not regulating anything and giving barons all of the money.
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But here's what happens when we completely distort everyone's ideas of cause and effect.
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Hmm.
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(laughs) It doesn't matter anymore.
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That is a good point. Well, I w- I'm going to say
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now, just going off of recent history, this is probably going to lead to some sort of
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negative e- economic outcome. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
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I think you're not even nearly g- alone-
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(laughs)
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... in that, uh, assessment.
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So, Elon tweeted something.
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Great!
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I think that could probably be, like, the subheadline-
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The name of the... Yeah.
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... of, like, every story that Alex has.
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Yep.
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"In other news, Elon tweeted something."
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"Here's a thing Elon tweeted about."
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Yep.
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Yep.
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S- And this one's particularly dumb.
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Uh-oh.
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Oh, Elon put out a tweet last night, I read it on Owen's show. Get it, g- get it for me again where he says, "I, I,
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I bought into America hook, line, and sinker. I believe
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every jingoistic piece of it, and we're gonna make it real."
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And in that statement, and I butchered it,
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'cause I'm teleprompter-free,
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is everything.
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Oh, we've been taught how bad America is. Why'd everybody wanna come here? Because
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it was the best house in a terrible neighborhood,
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and, and it was the, the flower of the Renaissance.
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And its ideas, if executed, empower us, and you've seen that. And
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it's a dream, but what we dream, we can do,
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like Musk in 10 years with SpaceX.
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(sighs) Musk said yesterday
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at
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12:12 PM,
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"I love America.
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I
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loved every bit of the jingoistic propaganda."
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By the way, propaganda never means negative, it just means
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ideas that propagate your ideas, operate you. It just means-
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Wow.
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... voting.
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Doing that, huh?
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"I loved every bit of jingoistic propaganda.
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I believed it
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hook, line, and sinker.
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Now, let's make it all real."
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So, I think that there's a misunderstanding that people have with propaganda.
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Almost anything that's meant to convey a point can be described as propaganda
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after the fact, but not everything is propaganda in the casual sense of the word, the way
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people generally mean it when they say it.
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That definition w- is more, like, stuff that's designed to make a
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point by obscuring some aspect of reality
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because it's inconvenient to getting
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the message across. It's generally stuff that's deceptive, and you can definitely
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argue that some decept- uh, deceptive content had, has been used
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and it's made to further positive goals, so you can
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make that distinction and argument about propaganda, but Alex is
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kind of
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making a dumb point.
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Whatever you like.
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The important thing here is the fact that Musk tweeted out that he bought into American
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jingoistic propaganda because that is a word that has a meaning.
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It's not about the US being the pearl of the Renaissance or whatever dumb shit Alex can riff out. Uh,
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jingoism is inherently belligerent and militaristic.
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Jingoism is aggressive and it starts
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shit. The US overthrowing the Hawaiian monarchy to make it a state is jingoism.
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Alex was supposed to be this big peace guy. You know, Trump's the
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peace candidate, and he's over here beating off about Elon
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tweeting that he loves jingoism. When Musk says that he bought into the
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US jingoistic propaganda, he's saying that he's an
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idiot who bought into colonialist ideas about subjugating what he thinks
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are inferior countries and cultures. That's what he wants to
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make real. That's what he's expressing in this tweet, and what Alex is, uh, celebrating.
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Yep.
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(clears throat)
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Nailed it. (laughs)
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Real sad.
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Real shit.
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It's pathetic.
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But
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if we all just buy into it.
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I don't even like school spirit, man.
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I didn't e- I don't even like it whenever, uh, a high school is like, "Go, team!"
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Fuck these people.
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I-
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You don't know them. They don't live with you. They're not
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following you later on in life. I don't do school spirit, man, let alone jingoism.
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Uh-huh.
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Shit!
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I mean, it's one thing to be like, "I bought into US patriotic propaganda."
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Sure.
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Then maybe you're thinking about hot dogs and 4th of July fireworks and-
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Great.
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... picket fences and what have you.
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The Statue of fucking Liberty and shit.
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US jingoistic propaganda is, like, it's a different sorta thing that he's signaling to.
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Yeah.
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And he's either... He means it that way or he's too stupid to understand what his messaging is-
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Yeah.
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... in a very dangerous way.
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Um,
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but if we buy into it...
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I j- I feel like people have watched Starship Troopers wrong.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's mainly what I'm feeling right now.
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I know Alex has.
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I know he has, or would 100.
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And it's interesting, it's interesting you bring up Starship Troopers-
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Okay.
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... 'cause that's in space, right?
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It is in space.
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Now, if we all-
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It's not all in space, or in another way, everything is all in space.
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That's true.
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Mm-hmm.
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Non-Earth space.
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Yes. (laughs)
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There is, uh, uh, if we all buy in-
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Yes.
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... to Musk's fantasies about how the world should be run-
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Yeah.
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... guess what happens in 10 years?
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I don't know. I would like to know more.
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Okay, let me just give you a little tease.
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(laughs)
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Moon vacations.
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Now, I'm in.
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If we just
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cut off the parasites and the saboteurs that use crisis for control,
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we will have
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unlimited resources, unlimited energy. We'll be interplanetary (snaps fingers) like that.
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If everybody got on board...... the average middle-class family, in 10 years would be able to go do
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a cruise around the moon
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and go spend a couple of days at a moon base.
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Wow.
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They've got all these cancer cures. They've already got all of it, folks.
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And I can tell you, take one look at Trump, he's on it.
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They had brain boosters
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that are
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viral 30 years ago.
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Oh, viruses are amazing.
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Remember the Bourne-
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Don't.
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... the third Bourne movie? For- Fourth Bourne? I forget what it was. The-
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where, where, where they, they give him a virus that
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goes in and recontours the brain
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and it- and, and, and, and super advances your intelligence and also your
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physical abilities? They have that.
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Wow.
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The problem is, it kills a percentage of people that do it.
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That is a problem.
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But
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the- (laughs) The point is, ladies and gentlemen, is that...
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fabulous things can happen.
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This fucking idiot thinks that middle-class people are gonna have moon vacations.
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Like no one can afford housing, but we're gonna have vo- vacations on the moon. Are you
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kidding?
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Come on with this, this utopian-ass bullshit. He complains about how, like Obama, uh, talking about hope-
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Yeah.
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... is some kind of a brainwashing with expectations of, "Oh, I promise you, uh, food
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and your, you'll fall in line with me."
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He's saying fall in line with Elon Musk and you'll vacation on the moon if you're middle class.
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Yeah.
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Fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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It feels like the pyramids, right? Okay. But
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at least, this is what I would think if I was- if I'm an Egyptian, I'm thinking, "Well, at least the pharaoh
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has the decency to say that we're all gonna spend our lives building this thing
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just so he can feel good forever."
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Just so he can vacation on the moon.
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Like, yeah. We're upfront about this, right? He didn't have the
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balls to be like, "Hey, no, we make this one and then everybody will have a pyramid. Fuck you, Pharaoh."
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"We'll all have pyramids."
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"Fuck you."
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"Great."
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"You know we won't."
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Yeah. This is pathetic-
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This is pathetic.
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... on Alex's part.
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Yeah.
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But I'm glad to see that he's studied up on
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science by watching the third or fourth Bourne movie, one of them, I'm not sure which.
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Seems to me like they- if they have all this magic shit, like
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why didn't Biden use any of it? How could Biden have had that debate performance if they've got
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super Jason Bourne viruses? Why is George Soros getting super old?
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I guess it's probably because it kills a bunch of people who take it, so they just aren't as brave as Trump.
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But then, if Trump dies, is Alex going to entertain magic
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Jason Bourne virus as a potential cause? I feel like he's been saying that the globalists are trying to
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kill him desperately, but now Trump's given himself a presumably very deadly virus
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in order to gain superpowers. This shit is stupid.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Here's what I've got for you.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right? Here's what I'm pitching
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if I'm Alex. All right?
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Um,
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Trump's dead. Oh, no! Surprise. We have all this technology,
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downloaded his brain, uploaded it into a different guy. That guy's now Donald Trump.
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Mm-hmm.
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And we just- everybody just moves on. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.
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Anthony Atamanuik?
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Yeah. We've, we've set it up so enough people will believe it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Just go. It doesn't matter if it's real or not. Anybody could be anybody.
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I- I mean, if Alex is gonna tr- try and pass off moon vacations and Jason Bourne, like-
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Right?
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... why not? Who gives a shit?
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Why not?
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Yeah. Nothing matters. Nothing, nothing has to be connected to reality.
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We do not need to worry about whether or not we can download famous
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people's brains into an AI. We can just say we did, and if there's
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Alex and his whole cronies with their full throats behind it-
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Mm-hmm.
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... it's true.
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It's as good as true.
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Crazy.
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So I think that that also illustrates a
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really, like when I was talking earlier about how people are, you know, they try to
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take concepts and illustrate them through movies-
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Yes.
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... to make them more relatable.
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Yeah.
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That's- this is what Alex does.
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Yeah.
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He takes movies and then pretends they're real.
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Right.
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He's not making a concept more understandable to you. He's pretending movies are real.
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(laughs) Even if he doesn't know what movie he's talking about (laughs)
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It's one of those two.
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Perhaps especially if he doesn't know.
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It's not the second one.
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(laughs)
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I don't- Was Matt Damon the one in it?
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Matt D-
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Was he in it?
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No. It was, it wasn't the Jason, uh, no. John R- No.
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Renner?
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Renner. Jeremy Renner. That's it.
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Yeah.
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No. It wasn't that one.
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Hmm.
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Could be any of the Bourne movies.
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Oh, well.
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Yeah.
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We'll probably never know.
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Yeah.
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Until we get these brain viruses.
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(laughs)
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So anyway, we're like Atlantis and shit.
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Sounds true.
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Um-
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I'm in.
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And it doesn't mean there's not gonna be big
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obstacles in the future and, and this power's dangerous. Th- that- we have Promethean fire.
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Now, that's not just a Greek legend. The- this is it.
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We are the new Atlantis. Whether Atlantis existed or not, we're-
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Disney's Atlantis.
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We are Atlantis.
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Look around you.
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And of course, there were-
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Fish people.
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There's been other advanced human civilizations-
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Obviously.
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... which blew each other up before.
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And, uh, this time,
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we don't really want to do that, do we?
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So
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that's where we are.
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And there are people that are scared of the Atlantean moment
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and saying, "We will blow ourselves up," so they want to bring in, cull
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everybody, suppress technology except for a very tiny elite,
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and that'll never work. That's probably what caused the last war-
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Oh.
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... that blew everything up.
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Probably.
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Probably.
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Probably.
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Now, I could learn about it.
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Las affaires, open the floodgates, let's go.
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Let's go, let's go, let's go, like Elvis says.
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Little less talk, little more action.
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Come on, baby, let's go, let's go. Grab your coat and let's start walking.
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Little less talk, a little more action.
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Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on,
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come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
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I think Elvis does it better.
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Yeah, for sure. Um, fun fact, that song's about Atlantis.
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Really?
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Yeah. And how they could have avoided blowing themselves up if they just went les affaires.
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I didn't know Elvis was that deep in his songwriting.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely. When he was doing Blue Hawaii-
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Yeah.
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... when he was on that movie-
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Yeah.
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... he got, uh, you know, he started to learn about islands and stuff (laughs) .
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You know, I've, I've always been like, oh, I think his lyrics are very
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surface level. It feels very easy to understand, but now that I'm seeing
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there's a whole Atlantis undertone.
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Oh, yeah.
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I hadn't even considered that.
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And, and instructions on how to avoid the next, like, world-destroying war.
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Well, yeah. I mean, if I was going to keep those instructions anywhere, I would keep them in E- Elvis lyrics.
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Yeah.
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Obviously.
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You Ain't Nothing But a Hound Dog is actually about Julius Caesar.
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Holy shit.
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This is game changing.
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Yep.
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(laughs)
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So this is just stupid.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, there's really nothing else to say to that.
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I find myself, like, periodically just wanting to yell, "Shut up!"
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(laughs)
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Shut up.
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So dumb.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, we get back to some real world stuff as opposed to fantasies about moon vacations and Atlantis.
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Okay.
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Uh, and, uh, it has to do with, uh, more of these things that, uh, Musk is uncovering.
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Okay.
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Now, look at this. Can someone explain to me why the Department of Defense provided... Look at that number.
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$9,147,000
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to Reuters for active social engineering defense,
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AESED.
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Active social engineering defense.
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Large-scale social deception.... LSD.
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(whistles) Look at that document they just released. Now, I didn't even
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know about these terms. I mean, I, I know about a lot of them, but we're learning some very
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nice new terms. Active social engineering defense,
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th- that's what they call the Department of War, Department of Defense,
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every day since the name changed, and
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father of modern propaganda. Look. Active Social Engineering Defense,
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ASCD. I've always told you, it's a social engineering
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weapon, eye-to-eye social engineering. And then look, large-scale social
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deception.
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Alex is just cold reading a tweet and reacting to it.
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Like, he doesn't know anything about this story, including the fact that
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he's covered it already on his show.
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Great.
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He doesn't know what's breaking news, because
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all he's doing is reading tweets and then ranting about them. Like, on a very
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basic level, he doesn't even understand
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what information he's covered, uh, in the past or hasn't. This is all just noise.
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Yeah.
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He's just getting stimulus in the form of these tweets that someone printed out and put in front of him-
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Yep.
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... and he's reacting.
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Yep.
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(laughs) That's it.
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I, I feel like
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if, if, if I had one, like,
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instant thing I could do, like instantly everything changes, it would be any question that begins with,
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"Could somebody please explain to me..." would immediately be answered with, "Yes, somebody can."
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Mm-hmm.
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The problem is not that somebody can't explain it to you.
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Right.
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It is that you do not give a fuck.
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Yeah.
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So shut up.
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And you're dishonest-
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Yeah.
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... in, uh, the, the way you're...
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"Could somebody please explain..." Yes, they
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had to. That's why it's on a piece of paper
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with an explanation for why they could do it. There was a check written.
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Yep.
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Somebody went to somebody else, there was a proposal written out.
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Mm-hmm.
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Then they had to go up to their boss, and that guy was like,
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"I don't know if we have enough money this year." And the other guy was like, "No, we should cut this program-"
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Mm-hmm.
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"... so we can afford to do this program."
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Yeah.
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Yes, someone can explain to you why that money is there.
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Right. Yeah, and I think that, uh, like,
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m- maybe we should reorganize the world in such a way that people actually
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can separate who wants an explanation-
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Yeah.
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... from who's playing, "I'm just asking questions..."
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Yeah.
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... games.
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Yeah.
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Because those people are really, uh, toxic.
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Absolutely.
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So, um, Alex has been talking on this episode about Al Green, uh,
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putting out, uh, uh, impeachment against, uh, Trump.
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Right. Right, right, right.
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And, uh,
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it's kind of funny, because if you pay attention to this clip,
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you will see very clearly that Alex did not know why
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Al Green had suggested impeachment.
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Hmm.
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And when he realizes, he is no longer interested.
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Uh-oh.
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Just giant developments everywhere. Uh, this reportedly has already been done, but,
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uh, we haven't seen any yet, we're checking.
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Texas Democrat to bring first articles of impeachment
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of Trump's second term.
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He's done this many times, but this is the
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latest, uh, in, in this administration.
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Democrat rat, Representative Al Green of Texas, said today
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that he has just brought articles of impeachment against Donald Trump
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over the alleged threat of ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
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On Tuesday, Trump said during a news conference with Israeli
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, United States wants to take over the Gaza
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Strip, drawing backlash from some lawmakers and praise from others.
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"The movement to impeach the president has begun.
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I raise the announcement that I will bring articles of impeachment against the President
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for the dastardly deeds
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proposed
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and dastardly deeds done," Green said Wednesday. All Trump did was propose it
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and pay people, give them money to move somewhere nice.
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So you can actually, you can definitely tell that Alex had no
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idea why Green proposed impeachment before he started reading that.
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Alex is not ready to defend Trump saying that the US should take over the Gaza
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Strip, and you can tell because the best he's got, uh, in terms of defending ethnic cleansing
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is, uh, calling it, quote, "Paying them to move somewhere nice."
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Alex doesn't care about the Palestinian people at all, and
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any attempt to pretend to care about this issue previously was mostly based
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in not wanting to risk losing the deeply antisemitic ends of
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Trump's base before the 2024 election. He wouldn't care if Israel killed
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and displaced every Palestinian person, he does not give a
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shit at all. And you can... Like, what I'm saying, y- y- like, he didn't know why
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this impeachment was suggested before starting that. It, it's so clear
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if you listen to just the rest of how it goes.
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During Trump's first term, 2017 to 2019, Green, who represented the Houston
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area unsuccessfully, attempted to impeach the president on three separate occasions.
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So,
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they are beyond scared.
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Um, look, I know our audience knows they're lying, you know the law, but I wanna go
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over it some here and I wanna play some of the clips
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of the unprecedented
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hoaxing
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that is going on right now by Chuckie Schumer,
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Pocahontas,
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Hakeem Jeffries, all of them. They're all over corporate news, they're all over press conferences
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saying, "He's in your private info. He's gonna give it to the Chinese hackers. He's gonna..." Their, uh,
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people aren't getting their Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. All of that's a lie.
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You're not gonna get those payments if we go bankrupt, which we already are.
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We have to shut this down, grow the economy, or we're screwed. And that starts with cutting energy
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prices by half within one year, and Trump can do it. He did it before.
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So you can tell that Alex is eager to go onto another subject.
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Very quickly.
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He just moves right along.
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Very quickly.
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He thought that the Green impeachment was gonna be about something
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fun that he could yell about, but as soon as he realized that it was about
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Gaza, he bailed. There's a lot of window dressing on his next point, but the
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thing Alex is trying to argue is that the Dems are lying when they say
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that Elon's meddling will affect their Social Security payments. One of the benefits
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to us being a little bit in the future is we know that Alex is very much wrong. He's entirely wrong-
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Yeah.
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... about the Democrats lying about this.
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Yeah.
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An 82-year-old man in Seattle named Ned Johnson was erroneously declared dead, which
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led to him losing his Social Security benefits. This was in the context of Elon
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gaining access to Social Security records and Medicare data
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and making a big deal out of how many dead people are receiving benefits.
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This is a guy who was alive and receiving benefits, but
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could easily have, uh, been accidentally seen as a case where someone was scamming the system
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and shut off from the things they need.
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This is one person, but his case illustrates something that
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could happen and might very well be happening to a lot of people.
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Beyond that, the funding cuts that Trump and Elon are pushing
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have led to shrinking of the workforce, which necessarily means less Social Security reps and offices
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to serve the people who rely on it to survive and have paid into it their entire careers.
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Doge aimed, uh, to close 47 Social Security
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offices, justifying it by saying that
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hearings that were done there, like, they were in-person hearings, and these can just be done virtually.
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Simultaneously, Trump's administration has created new
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anti-fraud rules that require you to apply for benefits in person
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and do things like change your direct deposit information in person as well.
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If you wanna make these changes, you gotta go in.
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It's almost like they're trying to destroy this thing by making it impossible to use.
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Social Security is an incredibly powerful and beloved government
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program that keeps countless retired people out of poverty.
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Everyone knows that it's politically toxic to touch it, because it works
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and g- it gets rid, uh, uh, of a lot of poverty, and, uh, getting rid of it would kill a ton of people.
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That's why there's been a bit of mixed messaging from Trump on the issue.
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He's a political figure and needs to get
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voted into office, so he's sworn that they weren't gonna take Social Security, they're just gonna make it
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better. At the same time, uh, Elon Musk has constantly tweeted th- s-
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and said that it's a huge Ponzi scheme and he wants to destroy it.
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The administration is incoherent because Trump still kind of needs to be
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liked as that figure and Elon doesn't.
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Yeah.
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And
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so you get this.
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Yeah.
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... and the true face is Elon.
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Yeah. I mean, the problem, I guess, would- would be
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that, you know, naturally the people who are most going to be affected by Social Security are also, uh,
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majority of the people (laughs) who voted for Trump.
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Uh,
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and it's just not going to bounce back on him-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because they have complete control over what those people think, you know?
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Well, I think... Yeah, and I think that
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to the extent that it is going to bounce back, it'll be, uh, too little too late.
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Yeah.
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Uh, or i- i- the damage will be done by the time there is any, any bounce back or consequences-
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Totally.
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... uh, in terms of political capital for the GOP.
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Um, and that is really, really sad because people are going to be severely hurt by it.
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Yeah, yep.
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Uh, between the people who are directly hurt by these cuts and making these, uh, things more unaccessible,
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uh, and their children who may need to, uh, take on
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new financial burdens in order to help keep their parents alive, uh, it's just a load of shit.
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Yep.
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And, uh, they're- they're doing this
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willingly and knowingly. They know exactly what they're doing.
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Yeah, yep.
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Um, but you could see there that... how much Alex is just like, "Whoops," and moves along.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I wouldn't wanna talk about it. (laughs)
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I feel like h- you know, he, he had made a big deal of it earlier in the episode, uh,
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with no context, just that Greene had announced some impeachment thing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And, like, he screams about all of the attempts to impeach Trump.
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This is just like, "Oh,............................"
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Let's just, uh, let's leave this in the rear view mirror.
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It's notable.
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As long as people stop talking about it, maybe it'll go away.
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So Alex... I mean, like, this show, like, legit is just cold reading tweets.
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Jesus.
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Elon Musk just posted this, and it's right
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here in the federal documents they've been releasing. This is just to the public.
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"Can someone explain to me why the Department of Defense provided
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$9,147,000 plus
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to Reuters
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for active social engineering defense, ASCD, and large-scale social deception, LSD?"
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That's how
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in the grants
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at usspending.gov,
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Department of Defense,
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Thomson Reuters Special Services, that's
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MI6, if you look it up.
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Remember the 300 million targeting Musk last year
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from the Biden administration? The... A lot of this isn't even hidden.
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And you can read
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all about it
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right here.
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About how to brainwash
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the public
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under
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social engineering,
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defense system electro- electronics communication,
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North American
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industry classification system, active social engineering
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defense, large-scale
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social
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deception. (laughs) Zoom in on that.
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Look at that.
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Just look.
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Alex is just reading tweets that Elon's posting, and I
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think if you listen to that, you don't have any
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additional information, so you don't understand what any of this is about. You just know that
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Elon tweeted something, and there's a bunch of these words in there that sound kinda scary.
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Totally.
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Large-scale deception. Ooh, scary, scary stuff.
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So also, like you pointed out, this premise and the framing of this is entirely
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bullshit. Elon's posting about this contract saying, "Can someone tell me why
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the DoD gave Reuters this money?" He's not looking for an explanation. He could go ask somebody.
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This isn't looking for a reason that the money was spent. It's throwing red
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meat to the crowd and saying, "Come up with
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fun explanations to keep yourself entertained for a while while I steal all your shit."
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Mm-hmm.
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Thomson Reuters has a company called TRSS that they run that offers software and information
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services. In 2018, when Trump was in office, the government offered up a contract that involved preventing
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large-scale social manipulation online, including through cyberattacks.
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The contract was competitive, and TRSS won the contract and served as the testers on a defensive platform.
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Alex and his ilk are pretending that this is about
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Reuters, the news service, being paid
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to engage in social manipulation and engineering, but that's because they're malicious and stupid.
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And Musk gives up the game when he says that,
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"Can anyone tell me why this money was spent?" when he does that, because it's transparently dishonest.
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He's playing the same f- game that folks like Alex have for
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years, where you pretend to ask questions when in reality
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you have a very firm answer that you're pushing, and again, this goes back to the, like, the ways that
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these people do make sense together.
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Yeah.
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They play similar games-
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Yeah.
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... uh, even if
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the boards they're on are very different.
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Yeah, and it's predicated almost entirely on a, a power imbalance that
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keeps people from applying the same shit back at them.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like-
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It's predatory.
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... the idea of Elon Musk saying, "Can somebody
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tell me why this money was spent?" without somebody else going,
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"I will hit you in the face for all the things that you have spent money on, you waste of humanity."
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Right.
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"What are you fucking... Can somebody
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tell me why there's a hole underneath New York or whatever the fuck it is?"
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It's- it's-
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You know?
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... the, "Can somebody tell me why this" is,
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"I'm going to workshop and just sort of, uh, snowball this on Twitter
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with a bunch of random people coming up with angry-"
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"Hey, I'm trying to get a mob coming together. Anybody want in on?"
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Exactly.
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"Yeah."
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Yeah. There's-
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Yeah.
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... there's no, there's no benefit that is brought to anything.
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Nope.
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There's no further understanding, and there will be no correction
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when, uh, it's like, "Oh, here's what happened here."
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Yep.
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"Oh, thanks, someone explained it to me."
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Some well-meaning person wasted their life spending time-
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Yeah.
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... explaining to you a thing that you don't wanna know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's incitement without, like, owning the incitement.
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Yeah.
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It's cowardly incitement, uh, hiding behind
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the, uh, mask of curiosity-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and, like, "Oh, can somebody, uh, just get to the bottom of this?"
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Yep.
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Fuck you.
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Yep.
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So anyway, uh, Reuters has some payroll issues-
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Hmm.
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... as we, we've already learned.
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Lightning strikes.
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Let's see that
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in function here.
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Oh, look right here.
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Politico faces payroll issues amid revelations of US government funding.
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That's today.
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And they're funding the BBC with your tax money, secretly.
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And they can't make payroll.
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Staff at Politico did not get paid
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for their last pay period. The company just sent several emails to employees saying
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it believes there was a financial error
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and is looking into how to fix the issue.
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And that's the theft they're talking about, Musk cutting off all this illegal crap,
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because the president has that executive power
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when he believes it's fraud, and- and now they're gonna try to defend
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in Congressional hearings, you know, are coming,
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that Trump's cut off the money to carry out, quote,
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"active social engineering defense and large-scale social deception." (laughs)
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(laughs) He's just making shit up.
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Just, he's just making shit up.
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Yeah. That's absurd.
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And you start to notice, obviously, like, if you watch enough of his shows, he kind of is just
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doing laps. You know, like you get these same tweets-
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Yep.
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... uh, kind of in a cyclical fashion.
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Yeah.
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And that's because he's got nothing else.
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Yeah. It feels, it feels so much like
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when I was working the graveyard shift at a hotel, um, every
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morning at, like, the 4:00 AM hour, ESPN would show the old, uh, uh,
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Mike and Mike, uh...... radio show-
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Sure.
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... uh, on TV 'cause whatever. It was the early thousands. We did that back then. Um,
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and it would have just like the list of topics that was
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a r- it was a circle. Every hour, they would go through the same like,
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"Hey, by the way, last hour we talked about this but this hour it's like
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how's fucking Kevin Youkilis doing this year?" You know, and it was like,
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it was just a rotation. It was the same thing over and over and over and over again.
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That sounds insufferable.
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It, they had to fill time.
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Yeah, but at least they were honest about it like by showing the loop-
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Totally.
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... as opposed to Alex who pretends that these are all new stories.
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No, I, yeah, absolutely, like they, they just
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had it out there so it's like, "Hey, by
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the way, I don't give a shit about NASCAR right now. I'll come back in five minutes." You know? Like-
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Right.
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... I don't need to hear him read a tweet about NASCAR.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's, it's almost, it's almost like
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more, it's, it's worse because it's obvious (laughs) about what it's doing
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and at the same time it's better 'cause it's letting you know how to plan your time.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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So, uh, I guess we have moon vacations coming up-
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Sure.
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We've got all this. As long as we just submit to
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Elon Musk, uh, gutting out and reforming the, uh, government
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to exactly what we want, hooray, we're the new Atlantis. Uh, a little bit later on the show, Alex has a guest.
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What are we gonna do on the moon?
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Pfft.
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Ha.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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I couldn't decide, like in that moment, I couldn't decide whether to play the role of
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like really mean response-
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Right.
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... of like, "You do anything you want on the moon."
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Right, right, right, right.
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Or just be like, "Uh, you walk on it."
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(laughs)
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I couldn't, I couldn't figure out which role to play and instead I just laughed.
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Like is it, has it-
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Because of course you could do anything.
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Well, but I mean it's, it would take longer than 10 years to build something for
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people to do touristily on the moon.
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Mm-hmm. Yep.
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Okay.
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Also, like, I guess,
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you know, it, it's just being there.
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No, it's not! It is an empty rock in space.
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No, but I'm, I'm, I'm saying that if you took a vacation to the moon,
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just being there would be enough 'cause you're on the fucking moon.
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I don't know if that's true anymore.
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I think that's true for a lot of people 'cause I was thinking about it, I'm like, "You know what would take
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almost no time to make on the moon? A swing set." And I'll go do a little swing set on the moon.
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Okay. All right. This is an interesting test.
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(laughs) Right.
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Uh,
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is, is this a gravity-based test or like a space space test? (laughs) Like, nobody's getting in my way-
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Hmm.
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... (laughs) while I build a swing set.
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I just think it's k- like on a construction level, it's pretty simple.
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It's lighter.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And pretty easy to set up.
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Sure.
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Um,
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and I think it doesn't rely on, on
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increased difficulties. Like if you, a basketball hoop would be really easy to set up on the moon.
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Oh, that's true.
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But then using it would be hard.
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Ooh, do you know what else you could do on the moon?
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Hmm.
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With a swing set?
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What could you do?
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Cold welding
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because there's no, uh-
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While you're swinging?
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No, no, no, what happens is if you've got two pieces of the same metal-
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Mm-hmm.
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... uh, and they touch in space, they immediately become one. It's cold welding
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because there's, uh, it has something to do with atoms and shit.
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I think that was in the third Jason Bourne movie.
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It does sound like that's true. (laughs)
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Yeah. (laughs)
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It does sound like that was a, it wasn't Moonraker, the original novel though.
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Mm-hmm.
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Before they'd go (laughs) to space.
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Well, that was all the globalist plans.
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Yes.
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So anyway, Alex has a guest-
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Mm-hmm.
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... on the show. He should stop having this dude on.
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Uh-oh.
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Victor Bout is a Russian businessman.
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Great.
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He was arrested by the DEA sting operation famously in Bangkok 2008.
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He was illegally transferred to New York City Metropolitan Correctional
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Center November 2010, went on trial, and was sentenced to 25
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years. He spent 10 years in the infamous CMU Unit, United States Penitentiary
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Marion. In December 2022, he was exchanged for prisoner swap with Brittney Griner.
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He is now a deputy
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in the regional legislature, a member of the High Council LDPR Party, and
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I wanted to get his Russian perspective. He's also spent the last few weeks on the war front, uh, in
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western Russia and in Ukraine, which is Russia, uh, and, until Lenin gave it away, and-
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Oh, boy.
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... that's what's going on-
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How about it?
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... right now.
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Ladies and gentlemen. (laughs)
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So he can start with the Russian view on what he sees here in America.
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Our second American Revolution is in
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full swing, baby. And we're winning. Or he can start with the war. He's got the floor.
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Uh, Victor, it's good to see you, my friend. A, Trump
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survived, he got in, he's delivering in
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my view. I get chills at the, at the speed of this. This is, this is, this is incredible.
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But I then I want to think, "Oh, but what are the bad
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guys gonna do?" And I get really concerned. So you can start wherever you like. Thanks for joining us.
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Thank you. Uh, you're absolutely right. It's not only looks but it sounds like revolution.
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Yay, it's a revolution.
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Sure.
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So Alex is once again interviewing the merchant of death.
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Yep.
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Former arms dealer Victor Bout. Like, this is crazy. This is like,
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I think that if you're a peace guy like Alex likes to pretend to be, the only interview
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you can have with this guy is incredibly confrontational.
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It would have to be.
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Uh, but instead it's just kissing his ass
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and talking about how Western Ukraine is actually secretly Russia.
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Yeah.
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Uh, cool, man.
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Yeah, that's real cool.
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Yeah.
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Incidentally, at the end of last year, it came out that Bout was back in the weapons business-
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How about that?
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... he's brokering deals with the Houthis in Yemen.
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The Wall Street Journal reported that he sold about $10 million worth of small arms to the Houthis, uh, with
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what appears to be the approval of Moscow.
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Well, it would have to be.
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So that's interesting because just the other day
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as we're recording this, Trump carried out a large-scale attack on Yemen meant to take out the Houthis.
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Weird.
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Trump said, quote, "They will be completely annihilated." So
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I, I just don't understand where anyone's head is
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at. Like, Alex is supporting Trump, who's the peace candidate-
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Sure.
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... who's bombing Yemen in order to fight the Houthis-
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Yeah.
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... who the guy who Alex is, uh, interviewing as like a really cool guy-
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Sure.
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... uh, selling arms to.
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Yeah.
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Huh.
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What would Alex think about that in the past?
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What would 2001 Alex say?
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That's an interesting question.
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He wouldn't love it.
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Probably not.
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No.
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Probably not.
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I have another question for you.
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Mm-hmm.
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Um, and this is a question that is, has just occurred to me.
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Is it
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possible that Victor Bout is very good at the act of selling weapons
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as like a salesman? You know, some people are good at selling-
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You kind of have to be-
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Right.
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... if you're in his position probably.
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Right. Or is it that there are so few people who are just willing to straight out-and-out be a weapons dealer-
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Well, he-
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... that like people are already looking for weapons and you've got weapons?
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Yeah, that's-
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah. That's kind of a little bit where my head goes. I think weapons largely sell themselves.
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That's what I was thinking!
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Yeah.
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They need weapons, they have weapons. You just need a guy in between-
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Yeah.
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... who doesn't need to be like, "Hey, how can I get you into an extra set of weapons today?" You know?
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No, no, but I think whatever those used car dealer traits that are used to like move cars onto people-
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Sure.
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... I think they're used to not die.
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Right.
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I think- (laughs)
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Up-selling. (laughs)
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Yeah, it's, it's-
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Up-selling to life.
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In the arms dealer business-
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(laughs)
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... you have to use that charisma in order to survive-
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(laughs) I mean-
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... 'cause you're dealing with some shady fucking people probably.
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At the end of this, I'm gonna leave this room.
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Yeah.
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That's my sale-
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(laughs) Yes.
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... right here, is I live at the end of this conversation and I'm not shot in the head by my own weapons.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And I think a lot of that might come down to you're also a real bad dude who-
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Probably a real bad dude.
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... who scares the other people who, uh, sell weapons.
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Because you sell weapons. (laughs)
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Maybe to the point where they make a movie about you starring Nicolas Cage called Lord of War. (laughs)
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Sure, that does make sense.
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Yeah.
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That does make sense. Very movie-like. (laughs)
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Yeah.
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Just to broker weapons.
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This is just such bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Just such bullshit.
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Yeah.
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How... I, I just can't even, uh, believe
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that Alex can look himself in the mirror when he, he, he's, he's become this.
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Yeah.
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It's sad, it's shameful.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, uh, we'll see what he's up to later.
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(laughs)
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But I don't care about him interviewing a fucking arms dealer.
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I, I, see now, this is the problem for me is now I have an in on the arms dealer.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because I remember being in sales, I remember going to
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conferences where there would be all these salespeople-
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Sure.
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... all in a room together, all just sales talking into each other about,
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"Uh, I hit this blank number," or whatever it is like that.
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Mm-hmm.
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The idea that there would be a weapons dealer conference-
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I don't think there is.
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... where th- where like guys like Victor Bout are like, "Dude, I cleared two billion in weapons just-"
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No.
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"... generalized weapons."
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No. I'm gonna, I'm gonna guess that there is not like a con at a convention.
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Probably not. Probably not.
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And one of the reasons is I think that, um,
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there's a difference between when you're, you know, selling hearing aids and stuff.
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Sure, sure.
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Getting the material is legal. It's quite legal.
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That's true.
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And what you're selling is quite legal.
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Tends to be.
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On his side, he's got some, probably a lot of illegal shit.
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Gray area most of the time.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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In the same way there's not like heroin conventions.
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Sure. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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Sure. I imagine... You know what?
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I don't know if that's true. (laughs)
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I've, I've, I'm pretty confident there's not heroin
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conventions. Although if someone wants to correct me, they're welcome to, uh-
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Yeah. Yeah. (laughs)
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... let me know.
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So, uh, we'll see where, uh, where things go from here but it's not gonna be good.
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Nope. Doubtful.
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Uh, but until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep. Uh, we'll be back but until then, I'm Neo, um, Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah! Woo! Yeah! Woo!
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And now here comes w- the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.