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pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for calling in.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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KnowledgeFight.com.
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Blech. I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I, I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit
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around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor-dan.
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Quick question for you.
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'Sup?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today is, I was poking around on YouTube.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I was recommended a video, uh, from Vice.
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Okay.
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And I thought, "Ah, why not? Uh, check this out."
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Sure.
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Uh, it is, uh, it was a series that, uh, Jamali Maddix, who was on Taskmaster.
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Okay.
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Uh, uh, I knew him from there.
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Okay.
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He's, he was, uh, hanging out at, uh, like the, uh, Gun Church.
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Okay. (laughs)
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You know that guy-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... Reverend Sun Myung Moon's son?
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Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so I gave it a whirl, and I, I really enjoyed it, so I watched some more. And I, I
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think it's, uh, really not... Uh, when I was in college, I used to really
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love Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends.
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Okay.
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And, like, when he would go embed with, like, the Westboro Baptist Church.
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Sure.
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There's something about a British person, uh-
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(laughs)
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... interacting kind of jovially with-
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Right.
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... American weirdos-
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Right, right, right, right, right.
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... that's just great. He, he taps-
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We spurns you.
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He taps into that.
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Yeah.
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Like, Jamali is good at, uh, at being this guy who's clearly
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critical of what he's seeing on some level-
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True.
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... but also not being hostile to the people, to the point where they would throw him out.
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Right. Right, right, right, right.
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And, uh, I fi- I find, uh, his presentation quite good.
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Huh.
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So I enjoy it.
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And there's something very American about
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allowing a British person to just kind of insult you to your face and then not care.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's c-, it's,
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the, there... Him and Louis are both people who are able to present pretty harsh things,
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but not in a way that feels like a criticism.
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Yeah.
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It's-
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See, that's...
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It's not just like, "Hey, you're an asshole."
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(laughs) Right.
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It's like a, "I don't know if I'm sure what you're doing is good."
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(laughs)
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(laughs) And I'm fascinated by the ability to get to say that.
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(laughs) There, well,
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there's, there's never been a, "You bad" that, uh, the British couldn't make six paragraphs long.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, I've enjoyed it.
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Huh.
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I recommend it.
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Good.
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Uh, what's your bright spot?
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Uh, my bright spot is, uh, uh, you, uh, uh-
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Yes, me.
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You warned-
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Oh.
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... me about Warriors Abyss.
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It's a, uh, game.
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A new video game.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, and I thought I'd give it a try. And I was like, "Oh, it's all right," at first. And then yesterday, I got, I
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b-, I played it for a good hour or two, and then
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it hooked me.
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Mm.
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I don't know what it is, I don't know what happened, but it scratched the itch.
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And now I'm just reveling in that thing that Dynasty,
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uh, Warriors games do so well, which is give you, like, 60 characters and you-
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100.
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Every time you press a button, it's like, it's a little bit different.
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Mm.
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It's not actually different.
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No.You know in the back of your mind, this is the same
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thing.There's gonna be some kind of an effect that goes across the screen.
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Yep.
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Or, like, uh, some sort of different color of out, like, burst.
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There's gonna be a number that is, that is associated with damage, et cetera.
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Mm-hmm.
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Gets me.
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Yeah.
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They, they get me.
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The end, like the aesthetically different enough weapons.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, yeah, it's, uh, it ha- it's dangerous on that level.
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Yeah.
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I was not meaning to warn you. I thought that there's no way this would appeal to someone other than me.
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Yeah.
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Because I like a roguelike-
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Yeah.
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... and I like Dynasty Warriors.
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Yeah.
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And so I thought, like, "Oh, this isn't my sweet spot." I didn't for a second consider that you would try it.
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It hit me in the Hades spot.
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Right.
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That's what it was.
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Right.
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It hit me in the Hades spot. It's got enough... And it's like, it's almost like an inverse-
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Well, 'cause it takes place in hell too.
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Right. Right, right, right. No, it's clearly they played Hades-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and were like, "This would be great if we were making money off of-"
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We put Lu Bu in here.
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Yeah, no. (laughs) Uh, but, but it is like, it's almost like an inverse proportion for Hades, where
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Hades had so much story, but then when you're going through, there was
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six weapons, you know? There were, there weren't too many ways to play the game.
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Yeah. You could-
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You know?
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Well, you get different boons and such-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... change, that could change things a little, but yeah.
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Totally. Uh-
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There's only six base weapons as opposed to 100.
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Of, as opposed to 100.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So there's, there's very little story to no story. Uh, but, you know,
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there's 100 different people, and every time you go in through, you find out
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this person attacks with a butterfly. Hooray.
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Yay.
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Next game.
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(laughs)
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Boom, next one.
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(laughs)
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100 more. Let's go. Next one. Let's go. Yeah.
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This guy looks like a giant baby and he's got a huge club. What?
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Yep. Boom. Next.
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(laughs) Ha ha. The old man has a bow and arrow.
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He's got a bow and arrow? Next. (laughs)
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Wait. Does that guy have a gun?
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(laughs)
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I finally, I unlocked Lu Bu this morning.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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You're in deep-
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World destroyer.
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I'm sure.
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It is ridiculous.
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Yep.
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It is a completely different game when you unlock that character. You're like, "Oh, why am I even trying?"
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I'm sure he's deeply overpowered.
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Beep, beep, beep. Next.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's bad.
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And by the time, uh, 'cause he's the har-
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like, furthest to unlock. By the time you get up to him, you probably have, uh,
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unlocked a lot of, like, just general-
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Yep.
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... every-character upgrades-
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Yep.
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... and stuff.
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Yep.
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So, he, he, yeah. He's, he's a, he's a monster-
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Oh, yeah.
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... in every form. It's that Lu Bu.
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It's brutality. Yep.
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Um, I did not get the bug from that. I did not end up, uh, getting, uh, wor-... I just dabbled in it for a minute-
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Yeah.
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... and then I heard that there was a Ninja Turtles-
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(laughs) You s-
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... roguelike.
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Which now I have to also get. (laughs)
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And so I jumped over to that. Uh, so now you're gonna get, uh, into that. 'Cause that's way more like Hades.
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Oh, God.
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If you have a, the Hades itch, then that Ninja Turtles...
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You have, you have damned me to hell, my friend.
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Mm-hmm.
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And by getting me out of hell and into the sewers.
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The only hope that I have, 'cause I haven't really played much of this Ninja Turtles one, but-
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Yeah.
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... the only hope that I have is that it goes
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deep.
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I mean.
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I want so many characters you can play as.
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100%.
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So far, I know that Casey Jones is in the game.
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Excellent.
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And the four turtles.
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Perfect.
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But I need so many more.
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Gonna need Splinter? Uh...
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Well, Splinter has been kidnapped. This is the premise of the game.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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All right. Uh-
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So maybe he unlocks if you save him, or something.
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Hoo, boy. Yeah. I mean, you should be able to fight, uh, Shredder, right?
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Well, Shredder's the bad guy.
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Well, yeah, but I mean, later on, you know?
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Yeah, maybe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm, I'm not open, I'm not closed off to New Game Plus-
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Right.
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... having the villains in there.
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(laughs) All right.
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Uh, but I'm talking about, like, that bunny. Was it Yusaku Yojimbo?
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Yo, Yo, Shimbo? Yoyotimbo? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh-
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Usaki Yojimbo, yeah.
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Um, who?
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(laughs)
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Uh, Baxter Stockman? No, he's gonna be a bad guy.
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(laughs)
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Who are the other good guys?
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Uh...
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April? I'd like to be able to fight as April.
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Oh, you're def- you v- for sure gonna be able to fight as April.
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Yeah.
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Um, yet, you know, actually that's a good point. I, I don't remember too many of the good gu-...
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W- what, what's his face from Secret of the Ooze?
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Well, there was Venus.
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The pizza guy? (laughs)
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No. Pizza guy's not.
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Secret of the Ooze is non-canonical.
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I wanna say that's canonical.
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So, Jordan, today, we have a canonical episode to go over of Alex's show.
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Okay. All right.
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We're gonna be talking about January 28th, 2025.
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Ooh. All right.
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Continuing on our path.
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I like it.
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I was kind of thinking about, like, maybe we
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speed up a little bit. But there's enough to talk about in here
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that, that, uh...I, I, I'd like to bring a focus to some, some of this shit.
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Excellent.
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Um, so we'll get down to business on this, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, the Prophetic Future Tense is a literary technique which describes future events that are
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so certain to happen in the past tense as if they had already happened, commonly
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used in religious texts and by Alex Jones. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Uh, next, Bird Friendly Wilford Brimley. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Is that a vocal warmup?
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No idea.
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Uh, next, Mary Christmas Anne, congrats on
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making it through the back catalog. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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Ooh.
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So thank you so much to-
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Hi.
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... Mary. Merry Christmas from Mr. Chipotle. "I suppo-
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I support these two shmucks as a gift for you because I know how shocked
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you'd be h- hearing your name yelled by Dan. Love you, boo-boo." Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Sharp (singing) . Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean
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Black accent. He's a loser little, little
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titty baby. I don't wanna hate Black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So there's a lot going on in the world.
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Sure.
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Um, there's a ton happening.
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Sure.
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And, uh, you know, a lot of that you don't get a sense of from Alex's show.
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He's pretty happy about, uh, how mean, uh, Tom Homan is.
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Sure, 20 out of 10.
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He loves Elon Musk.
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200 out of 500.
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A lot of the specifics get kind of lost. (laughs)
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Yeah, I can imagine.
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A lot of the news stories end up not getting covered while Alex rants, uh, about nothingness.
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Strange, strange choice of life to lead, but okay.
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Well, I mean, on our last episode, uh, a fair amount of time was taken up with, uh,
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Wernher von Braun, uh, prophesied the coming of Elon Musk who will bring us to Mars.
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Yep.
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Seems like a waste of time.
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That does feel like something that, uh, we could just dispense with entirely.
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It almost feels a little bit like
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I've gotta fill this time with Dark Journalist.
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Yeah.
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So this is what we're gonna talk about.
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What else are you gonna talk about with Dark Journalist?
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Uh, I, I just wouldn't talk to him.
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I, I would... I strongly support that.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I mean, if you're, if you're stuck in a "we gotta talk to Dark Journalist"-
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Mm-hmm.
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... might as well get to (laughs) Nazi prophecies.
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I guess so.
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(laughs)
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So we start off here on the 28th, and, uh, it's kind of just a rumination about how
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Trump's beating the shit out of these globalists. These globalists, they're, they're getting worked.
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Busy eight days.
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All right, I'm gonna be very calm about this,
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but
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I am here to tell you
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that I have been studying constantly
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every facet of what Trump's doing, and I can't even keep up with it. This is
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absolutely plotted out by
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incredibly smart people. I know that this broadcast and our suggestions have been
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absolutely taken up like mother's milk by a baby,
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and I am so proud of this audience of activists keeping us in attack formation through all these attacks.
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And Trump is just devastating the living shit out of the globalist.
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I mean,
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it is unbelievable.
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And yeah, we can bitch about this little thing or that thing, but in the
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whole, this is earth-shaking, globalist-destroying, irrevocable,
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absolutely
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irrevocable
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to the globalist.
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It is incredible.
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He really does not seem to care at all about swearing on air anymore. (laughs)
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Why-
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This is like less than a minute into the show he's dropping shit.
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(laughs) Like...
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I love it. (laughs)
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Well, I... Yeah, but it, uh, it is reflective of how much
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bullshit it is when he says like, "We're on 400 radio stations."
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That's true.
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No, you're not.
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No, you absolutely are not.
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You're on Twitter.
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You are by yourself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but it's, uh... I mean, it, it makes his swearing... it does feel a little better now.
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Yeah.
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You know, it doesn't feel as, like,
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12-year-old getting away with saying a curse.
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Boy.
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That actually kind of felt a little bit organic.
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Yeah, those, those early days. Those early days whenever he would, like,
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put a "fuck" in there, and you were like, "Ugh, don't do that."
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Well, I think there was too much trepidation about, like, this is
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actually gonna be a problem with the radio stations.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna have to... I'm gonna get a phone call for saying "fuck," so it comes out all wrong.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now, let it fly.
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Let it go. Shit this.
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So, um, the cartel...
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Which cartel?
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Great question.
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(laughs)
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Who knows?
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Okay, so, well...
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Tom Homan, his czar, has said, "We are declaring war."
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And he said for the last few months, he said, "As soon as we
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start actually shutting down the human trafficking and the fentanyl
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and the sex slavery, the, the cartels are gonna try to kill
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federal agents and others. And when they do,
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we're gonna come in with the military, and we're gonna slaughter them."
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And so the
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Mexican cartels don't understand there's a new sheriff in town. They walked into their trap.
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They just tried to ambush.
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Down on the Texas-Mexico border yesterday, really dramatic
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drone footage
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of the Mexican cartels trying to kill the Border Patrol and shooting up their vehicles
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and then the Border Patrol
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firing back.
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It is dramatic.
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And a few days ago, they shot hikers across the border in
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California, shot a m- mountain biker.
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Uh, the days of them just running around
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murdering everybody and the Border Patrol being shot at and told not to shoot back, uh, is over.
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And so, uh, if, uh, Mexico really wants the Marines to invade again, you're about two inches away from it.
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And, and Trump's not playing games.
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He's looking for somebody
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to cross the United States so we can get back to where we were.
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I'm sorry?
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And that's fortress America,
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and that's America expanding.
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I'm sorry?
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Not in conquest, but by business deals.
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Yeah, so this, this is what Alex's vision of peace entails.
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Right.
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Hoping Mexico will give us a reason to go to war with them.
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Mm-hmm.
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Talking about Orwell is a little bit hacky in Conspiracy
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World, so I won't call this Orwellian, but it's something.
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A dramatic, uh, ambush, the thing that Alex is talking about here, uh, was some people in, uh,
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Mexico side of the border firing shots at Border
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Patrol agents, Border Patrol agents shooting one shot back and no one getting hurt.
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The news reports them as, quote, "suspected cartel members," but I'm noticing this, uh, a lot,
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that there's no substantiation of the cartel connection whenever this title is used.
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Sure.
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It very well may be the case that these people are involved with a cartel, but it's also
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quickly becoming a catch-all term that I think could get weaponized
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pretty easily, and I think we're seeing that.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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also, those other cases, uh, you know, there was that... We talked about the guy who got shot.
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Yep.
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Bu- um,
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suspected cartel member.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say this, um,
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these days,
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you know, if we're talking about the Trump, uh, Border Patrol and the Trump ICE and the Trump cops,
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I don't think I trust what they're saying.
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Hmm.
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I don't think they're trustworthy narrators anymore.
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I think that there was good reason to,
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uh, worry before.
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Yeah.
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Uh, always a grain of salt with, uh...
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Cops lie. It's okay for them to lie.
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It happens sometimes.
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It's okay. It's legal.
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Um, but now, I think maybe more.
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I wouldn't trust a goddamn word any of them fucking
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say about goddamn anything. The sky is blue? You fucking liars, no it's not.
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I, I am in a position where I think I require a little bit extra faith.So, uh,
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when you talk about getting information-
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Yeah.
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... you wanna have good sources.
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Absolutely.
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When you're someone like Alex, who's like God's chosen warrior-
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God's a great source.
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... and the information wa- well, he would be.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but Alex prefers to go other routes.
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Okay.
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We know their attacks. We know who they are. We know their organizations. We
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know their dark money. And we're watching their ass like a hawk.
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And when I say we're watching 'em, you're watching 'em. You know where I find 90% of this... is-
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Don't say it.
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... you.
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(laughs)
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Posting under my post on X, email. The crew brings me a lot of stuff, but I'm digging through everything, but
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the really good stuff comes from you.
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Now on the Bill Gates thing, everybody's like, "Look, these are fake doctors. It's this
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dark money group." And I went, "That's Bill
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Gates' group." Of course, five seconds later, yeah, I knew it was his group. So,
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that's what we're doing.
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Yeah, that is what you're doing.
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Mm-hmm.
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Dumb shit from Twitter.
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I can't b- you know, sometimes when he says it-
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Yeah.
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... it's sti- it's even more shocking for him to say it, 'cause it's rude.
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We all know that's what you're doing.
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Mm-hmm.
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But the contract is, you'll pretend that it's not what you're doing.
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Y- y- if you-
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Yeah.
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... have awareness of it, you should be embarrassed.
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Yeah, you should feel bad.
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Yeah.
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You should feel bad.
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I just get on my show and whine about various things people comment on my Twitter account.
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Absolutely. This makes me feel bad.
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Cool. Great.
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Hmm.
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So, um, he, he said that he wants fortress America.
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Yeah. That's not good (laughs) .
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No, it's not.
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No.
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But it gets worse.
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Okay, great.
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Yeah.
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And then some are saying, well, this new fortress America thing, yeah, it's gonna make the country strong-
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Build it up!
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And yeah, Trump's for real, he's taking over, but he's kind of building his own new thing.
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Scott Ritter,
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like criticizes Trump and then says, but he supports it,
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but Scott's smart.
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He knows that this is the classic American system. I mean, manifest destiny
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and expansion. You're either expanding or you're dying. W- instead we were being cut up and turned into a
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third world hell hole and becoming globalists' footstool.
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So I'm not for an American empire of military, I am for an American empire of ideas and culture
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and industry, and then everybody's just gonna want to join us.
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But we've gotta check the country, we gotta check the
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system, we gotta, you know, make alliances and things, and of course, we need to get Greenland.
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I'm sorry?
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And of course,
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we need to have
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nation-to-nation agreements, not through the UN.
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So this is not the new world order the globalists wanted.
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It's
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the Monroe Doctrine.
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This is so goddamn stupid coming out of Alex's mouth.
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He wants to bring back the Monroe Doctrine. Is he concerned that France is
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colonizing some place in the Western hemisphere and that needs to be stopped?
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I mean...
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Alex is just throwing spaghetti at the wall here, and none of this should be taken too
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seriously. He just wants to live in a right-wing dictatorship
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because he's convinced himself that he'll be
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free of the consequences of living in a right-wing dictatorship, because he's a crazy
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right-wing dude who's white and Christian.
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Alex seems to be pretending that countries don't have
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one-on-one relations, uh, in addition to the larger
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multilateral agreements that, uh, and those bodies that exist in the world.
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That's stupid, and Trump isn't gonna bring back having one-on-one agreements with other countries.
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He's gonna normalize relations between the
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US and hostile foreign governments, like
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Russia and North Korea, against the wishes of the international community and longstanding US policy.
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The one-on-one relations are going
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to be things like him trying to make condos in North Korea, not negotiating a real peace
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in some country that's in conflict. This is all pretty much, uh, the level of a
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farce, and someone who was sold on Alex's InfoWars message like 15 years ago
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should be horrified by this. The guy who doesn't trust the federal government to regulate
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highways is secretly in favor of manifest
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destiny? These are the kinds of moments that should make it blatantly clear to anyone listening to him
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that he never believed that shit that he preached to begin with. It was all just the best way to Trojan
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horse his real beliefs to a wider audience. Also, why isn't he mad about Scott Ritter being a sex offender?
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Shouldn't he be more concerned about that than the
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little difference that they have about Fortress America?
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I mean-
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Shouldn't he be screaming about how he's a demon or something?
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I, I'm j- I'm, (sighs)
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I'm surprised, one, he's not caught up in a very effective task force that I'm hearing about from Tom Homan.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, that should've handled, one of those problems should've handled the other.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, and two, uh, uh, so, so
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we're good with manifest destiny.
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And we need Greenland.
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Now, now, I'm gonna just say from, from my American perspective,
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that means we're either going to make Greenland part of America, thus increasing
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the number of people who we call Americans. Uh, I, uh, I mean,
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that's like reverse immigration, is that we immigrated on top of you.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which is an interesting problem to have. Uh,
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and then second, or if we're not going to make them a state, that it's taxation without representation.
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Psst., Alex thinks people from Greenland are white. (laughs)
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Right, I under- hmm, I understand.
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He considers them white, it's fine.
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No, I u- I mean, I understand the concept why it's okay, but eventually it will very much be not okay, right?
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I mean, nothing, nothing they want is ever okay.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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Like all their stupid plans eventually end up, uh, some terrible s-
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We've colonized Mexico. Ha ha ha, you can't immigrate to us, we immigrated to you.
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It's, uh, it's, uh, all just a bunch of nonsense.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, I think,
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I, I just
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think it's important, uh, w- a- as we're seeing the, like, the
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laying out of the beginning of Trump's second term-
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Mm-hmm.
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... to see these things that are direct invalidations-
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Mm-hmm.
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... of like, you cannot possibly be someone who believes the stuff that Alex's career is built on-
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Yeah.
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... and act this way.
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Yeah.
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Those beliefs have to have been fake.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh,
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and I, I think that there's value in pointing this out, not in like a, "Ha ha, you're a hypocrite," kind of way.
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Mm-mm.
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But in an illustrative way that can be helpful when you run into the next Alex Jones-
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Exactly.
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... who's trying to sell you on some kind of idea about liberty and-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and all this shit, when really what they want is a very cruel-
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Yeah.
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... harsh
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Monroe Doctrine-
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is, it is ultimately like we should be learning from this past
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30 years exactly what the liars are doing, (laughs) you know?
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Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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You should know where they're lying.
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And th- and that people are still susceptible.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's, it's, uh, it, it's n- it's an issue that we can have a lot of insight in-
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Yeah.
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... and, to, and like understand
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how the mechanics of this works.
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Mm-hmm.
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But it is still very dangerous.
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Mm-hmm.
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People still engage in this.
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Yep.
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Um, so Alex, uh, rambles about how, uh,
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thrilled he is about how the Border Patrol is going to, uh, kill a bunch of people.
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Great. That sounds right.
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So now they have,
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again and again, tried to kill the Border Patrol and killed some in cases.
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And so, uh,
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you're gonna have a lot of Mexican drug cartel people that are gonna start getting killed,
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and their bosses are gonna get killed.
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And so the Mexican drug cartels have had a free hand down there
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bullying their people and others that come
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through there, and I'm gonna tell you, they're gonna be pushing daisies up real fast.
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So the Army's gonna be killing them, already are. The Marines are gonna be killing them, already are.
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I'm sorry?
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They're gonna turn loose other groups
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and you're dead.
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So enjoy.
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... hundreds of thousands of Americans
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killed by fentanyl, supplied by the
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communist Chinese and the Mexican drug cartels. You're dead, dead, dead.
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Alex says that they've killed Border Patrol officers, then mutters, "In
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cases," because he's trying to combine stories that he can't actually combine.
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There was the story about a couple of guys shooting over the border where no one
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got hurt, and then there was the separate story
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from a little bit back about the Border Patrol agent who was killed in Vermont.
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Mm-hmm.
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That has nothing to do with the border of Mexico, but Alex wants to superimpose that death
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onto this story so he can get the most benefit from it.
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It's very clear what Alex is doing here, which is
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cheering on the killing of immigrants by the
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US military. Based on literally everything he's ever pretended to believe,
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Alex shouldn't be in favor of this, but again, the
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principles wear a costume. It's clips like this that highlight why it's very important, uh, how
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loose the term cartel member has gotten with the right-wing media and politicians. If
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Alex believes that it's appropriate for soldiers and marines to kill cartel members,
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what level of evidence does he require to accept that someone the military kills was actually in the cartel?
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He shouldn't believe the military is right to kill them, even if they are
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in the cartel. But leaving that aside, if
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Alex makes that okay, he's essentially saying that the military can kill whoever they want so
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long as they tell him that they were in the cartel. This bloodthirsty,
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right-wing, uh, kind of mentality, this was what he was supposed to exist in opposition
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to, uh, in the days of 9/11 with the term terrorist. Like, this game is something that he
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presented himself as the opposite of, the other side of.
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Yeah.
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The deaths of people in other countries and the violation of liberties of people here
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were hand waved away by people saying that they were terrorists or suspected terrorists. Alex
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knows all of this. His career has spanned through that
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time, and he's been critical of how the police state tried to excuse their bad actions by
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just saying terrorist. He knows exactly what he's doing. He just thinks that he's close to
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power now, whereas he knew that George Bush was too ambivalent about bringing back segregation
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and they could never really work together.
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Yeah.
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That's the difference.
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Basically. Yeah.
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It's,
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if Trump had been around then and he felt like, uh, another George Wallace type was, uh-
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Yeah.
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... possible, he would have gone all in on the terrorist, uh-
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Probably.
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... uh, labeling after 9/11.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah. It was the easiest thing for him to do in the
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world, to be like, "See? Obama bombed another wedding
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and then he called them terrorists." That's the easiest thing to do in the world if you're Alex Jones.
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Which is why he did it.
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Which is why he did it.
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Yeah.
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But if you don't actually give a fuck-
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Mm-hmm.
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... then you're lying. You're a lying piece of shit who just wants to, who just doesn't
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like that it's the wrong brown people, I guess.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And you, you, uh, recognize the power of the game.
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Mm-hmm.
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The alienation, the othering, the term being so vague as to, like, uh, and scary-
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Sure.
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... that you can justify-
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Cartel! Terrorist!
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Hoo! Right.
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Cartel cuts people's heads off.
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True.
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Just like the terrorists do.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So you know the power of, um, manipulatively and abusively using that language.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, to, to such a broad, uh, population.
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Fucking everybody should at this point. Yeah.
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Right. Um, and Alex's complaint when he was talking about, like, Obama justifying attacks or whatever-
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Mm-hmm.
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... by saying that they're suspected terrorists or whatever,
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he wasn't concerned with th- the actual behavior.
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Right.
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He was just mad that the side he's opposed to is using a tactic that he knows is powerful.
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Right.
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Now, he's perfectly happy to use the same tactics.
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Of course.
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Because he's a piece of shit.
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Yeah, well.
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Anyway, if you have fentanyl, Trump gonna kill you.
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Trump's just straight-up gonna kill you.
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That seems like not the way to solve a problem.
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Well, it, the fentanyl's in a dead person's hand now.
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Okay.
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Now, the big cartel that runs Puerto Vallarta and, you know, is out of there,
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that one years ago, it came out, has been killing any of their members that are caught selling
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fentanyl, because they knew Trump was coming back, and they, they, it's been in the news.
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What?
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They told people, they said, "Trump's gonna probably end up back in and he's going to kill us."
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We've been told that by hi- him through the, through intermediaries
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that Trump's been behind the scenes saying, "When I get back in,
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anybody caught with fentanyl, you're dead. (upbeat music plays) And I mean you, the leadership,
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all your sons, dead.
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We're gonna kill you."
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All right. We're gonna come back and play the clips. Just stay with me.
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This doesn't seem like a tenable position for Alex to have.
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Like, if all you need for the US president to be justified in sending the military in to kill
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you and your family is that you're somewhat connected to a drug
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ring, why should Alex have been against the war in Afghanistan?
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Mm.
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The low bar for what he'll accept as a good cause for the US to use
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deadly military force, it's just unsustainable. There's no war that he couldn't support given this level.
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Mm.
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Like thi- this, this type of celebration of killing, "We're gonna kill your children"? What?
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I mean-
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What if the children don't want to be a part of the drug game?
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I think what he was trying to say was that in preparation for Trump
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murdering families, the cartel leaders
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are already murdering families of their own, if I understand that correctly.
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Well...
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Because they don't want to get people caught with fentanyl-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because Trump is gonna kill them.
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And their families.
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Yeah. So then they killed them and their families.
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Mm-hmm.
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Is that what I am under, to understand from Alex?
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I,
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I, sure. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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I think he just likes violent fantasies.
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Yeah, I think that's probably true.
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So look, he likes violent fantasies.
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Right.
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But you know what he doesn't like?
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Protestors. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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He does not like people exercising their First Amendment rights.
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Right. Right, right, right.
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So he, he talks about the, that as it relates to, uh, immigration issues.
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Great.
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And then he gets lost thinking about a new Marvel movie.
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Ah, it'll happen. That'll happen.
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In Dallas, we've seen the worst with the illegal aliens waving their Mexican flags.
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Now
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tackling and beating up Trump supporters and taking away their American flags and stomping on them.
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(gasps) .
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Boy, these folks really love America, don't they?
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Now,
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obviously the vast majority of Hispanics that come here
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want to be in America and they're great people and there's
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record numbers of Hispanic Americans that voted for Trump.
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They are just as disgusted, or probably more so by these people than
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other Americans are.
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But
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here's the thing. America is not living on its knees anymore and we're not taking it anymore.
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And you got all the leftist scum and antifa out there with them as well.
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And then it's saying about, "Oh, we're
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Native Americans so we can be wherever we want." That's all taught by the big foundations, by the UN,
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by the globalists who want to break this country up. By the way, I'll get to this coming up.
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Disney's new Captain American, uh, the new Black Captain American
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just decided to
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set his box office prospects on fire.
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You know, America would love a Black Captain America,
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and he was the former, you know, buddy of the white Captain America.
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What are we doing here?
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Well, now the leftists just said, "Oh,
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Captain America has nothing to do with America." That, that's a quote. I'll play the video.
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Now, now have you ever heard of more doublespeak?
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Well, yeah, it was Kerry last year repeatedly said, "We gotta cut off half the farming in the world.
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We gotta reduce farming by half to cut emissions or people will starve.
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We've gotta cut food off or people will starve."
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And now Bill Gates officially says trees are bad for the Earth, they put off carbon, cut them down too.
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So Kerry didn't say that we need to reduce farming or starve, and Bill Gates didn't say trees are bad.
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Sure.
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He invested in a company that works to thin out densely forested areas in California,
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something that Alex is supposed to be in favor of in terms of fighting forest fires.
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Fine. Yeah.
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Alex doesn't even know what Gates is doing because he's just
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skimmed a headline or saw a tweet. Who gives a shit?
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Yeah.
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Also, con- consider me just taken completely off
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guard by the revelation that Alex doesn't like a Black Captain America.
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I'm, I'm bl- flabbergasted.
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(laughs)
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I'm flabbergasted.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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It's divisive (laughs) .
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It would be- it would be more fun if it was Captain Americ-K-K-K. That would've been great.
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It's fascinating because Alex is, like, a character in-
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Yep.
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... uh, like, Falcon and the Winter Soldier (laughs) .
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Yep. Yep, yep, yep. "We can't have a Black Captain America?
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Oh, that's, it's interesting that you would say that," like, the people in the movie. Weird.
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Yeah, so Alex complains about that a little more.
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Makes sense.
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So Captain America
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should not represent-
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Captain A-black-ca-ca.
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Sh- he should not represent America.
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Captain America has nothing to do with America. That'd be like saying the
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NFL has nothing to do with the National Football League.
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Or Jesus has nothing to do with Christianity.
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(laughs)
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And you're like, "That's so ridiculous." Everything they do, it's, it's psyop, people.
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Oh, put that back up. I didn't even know about that.
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Captain America: Brave New World alternative trailer includes
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new footage after removing assassination attempt. Oh. Give me that article.
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Oh, that'll be exciting to hear about.
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That'll be, that'll be great.
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And probably have a bunch of important data points about God's plan against the devil.
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Def.
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So Anthony Mackie was speaking at a promotional event in Rome and explained that, quote, "To
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me, Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don't think the term 'America' should be
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one of those representations. It's about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity.
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Someone who's trustworthy and dependable."
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There are two big points here.
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Hm.
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The first is the very obvious fact that he was in Rome and was trying to sell the movie to a crowd in Italy.
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Sure.
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If all you see when you look at Captain
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America is America, then the international
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audience is never really gonna take an interest in that character. And if you're trying to
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sell a movie, obviously you would wanna make it more relatable.
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Yeah.
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The second, uh, thing is that Mackie, uh, what he's getting at, uh, is what makes Captain America
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Captain America. When he thinks of the character, he thinks of the traits that the character embodies, as
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opposed to the flag he's decked out in. The reason Steve Rogers was chosen to
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be Captain America and the reason Sam Wilson was chosen to be his successor
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is because they embody those characteristics
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which the powers that be want to make synonymous with America.
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A ton of the media surrounding Captain America
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has to do with the idea that the shield doesn't make him a superhero. It's those honorable qualities.
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Yep.
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It's really basic in the text, and Alex won't engage with media that challenges his very dumb
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and rigid worldview at all, and I find it
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super funny.
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Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I v- I, I'm pretty sure, now, I could be wrong, but in
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literally every Captain America movie, one of the biggest things that
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Captain America does is disregard everything that the American government says
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because the American government does not represent America.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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He was against the, the-
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He's against America.
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... Sokovio Accords, uh-
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Yeah. He's against America-
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Or, uh, the registration of superheroes.
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... the government, because the government is fucking Hydra in the other one.
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Mm-hmm.
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So you can't trust the government, but America is its people, as embodied by the person of Captain America.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I, I, I, I am
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bewildered by Alex's... Like, he-
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Do you not understand that Captain America
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is not a jingoistic character by definition because it is more
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interesting for it not to be a jingoistic character?
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Right.
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It's ridiculous.
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Yeah, a- and that he just seems to embody
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a dumb, sort of villainous side character in the movies themselves.
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Yeah.
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Like, he, it's life imitating art in some way-
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Yeah.
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... because he's so dumb (laughs) .
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Yep. Yep.
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It's fun.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, did you know that you can steal in California?
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Steal what?
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Anything.
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Okay (laughs) . Okay.
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That's an assault on the nation, just like defunding the police
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or defunding the fire departments. What do you think's gonna happen? The breakdown of society.
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California passes a law, you can steal up to $2,000 a day from any store you want
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and no one can stop you. And then they rob the stores and half of them close.
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Sounds true to me.
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What type of government says you can rob $2,000 a day per store?
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A smart one?
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And then they come into some, you know,
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family-owned little convenience store and they go behind, get the lottery
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tickets, the cigarettes, and the families will start
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begging. You've seen the videos. Indians and others, and then
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they'll, they'll, they'll come arrest them when they buy it back.
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Ooh, white store owners do it, they really get in
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trouble, but... And, and they go, "Please, I don't have money, I don't have
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insurance. You can't..." And the p- person's just shoveling cigarettes and lottery tickets and,
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you know, into the
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bag, and then finally the, the store owners just start beating them up.
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And then oh,
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the Soros DAs have them indicted.
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Just like Daniel
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Penny.
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So that's a fun fantasy Alex just played out, but Daniel
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Penny wasn't a store owner. He was a dude who killed a guy on a train and was found not
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guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
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Sure.
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I don't know what kind of point Alex thinks he's making by
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bringing him up. Also, just for any of our non-California listeners, uh, this isn't true.
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Yeah.
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And for our California listeners, don't do this.
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No, do it.
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Don't steal $2,000 worth of stuff from the store.
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Steal exactly 2,000... Count it up.
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This is not a get-rich-quick scheme.
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Run it by the-
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You will get arrested.
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... register. Read it through the register so you don't
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wind up stealing more than $2,000. You'd have to be a fool not to do that.
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In 2014, the citizens of California voted in favor of Prop
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47, which made crimes like shoplifting or receiving stolen property a misdemeanor instead of a felony
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when the crime was non-violent and the
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amount stolen was under $950. Gavin Newsom didn't do some kind of, like, silly
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crime-loving dictator move here. It was a ballot measure. Then, in 2024, there was another
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ballot measure, Prop 36, which changed
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some of this, making repeat, uh, shoplifters face felony
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charges even if their theft was stuff less than $950 in value. So in the real
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world, California made things tougher on shoplifters in 2024,
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but Alex is reporting the opposite because he's a liar.
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Right.
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Alex would also probably be horrified to learn that in Texas, it's a misdemeanor
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to steal stuff worth less than $2500.
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Oh my God.
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So it's basically
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fine.
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That's cr- Yeah.
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D- you could steal even more stuff in Texas.
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That's not even, that's not even a penalty.
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Yeah. This dude has to be so embarrassed, uh, to say shit like this.
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The only way you could think that it's legal to steal whatever you want up to a certain value is if you
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literally have never been in public before, or you think the people you're talking to are complete idiots
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who maybe have never been in public themselves.
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You have to be a special kind of stupid, too, to think people in this gener- uh, situation, like,
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this imagined scenario that you have, uh, to think that they would steal lottery tickets.
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Yeah, that would be insane.
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A lot of the stuff, like, uh, you know, the
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Powerball, that's printed off by the cashier
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so it's difficult to steal. But if you're just talking about scratch-off tickets, all of those are serial
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numbered, so they're super easy to report as stolen.
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Yep.
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If you won any big amount, you'd pretty much b- guarantee that you'd get arrested-
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I mean, it'd be abs- ab-
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... when you tried to cash it in.
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Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
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I've worked in gas stations before, and they keep pretty close logs on those things, because if you didn't,
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anyone who worked at a gas station or sold scratch-off tickets would have a free pass to print money.
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Pretty crazy.
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Most criminals understand this, and they tend to stay away from
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lotto-related stuff because it involves the state (laughs) .
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The m- a ton of lotteries are state-owned. Like it's-
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Yeah.
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What are you talking about?
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Yeah, the regulation of that, that kinda shit is, is,
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uh, criminals understand that.
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If you're gonna steal from the state, you don't do it in a way that might fail i- l- just purely by sad luck.
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Yeah.
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That's absurd.
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The luckier you get, the more fucked you are.
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I mean absurd.
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The, um, I mean, so, well, I, I worked at a gas station when I was, like, 18.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, of course, because I was stupid, smoked a lot of weed-
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Sure.
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... uh, didn't have a lot of experience in life, I thought, legit, "Okay,
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I have a shift.
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I can just keep scratching-... off tickets until I pay back what I have scratched-
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Oh my God.
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... and come out ahead at the end of the day.
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Oh my God.
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I didn't do this.
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Okay.
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But I thought that.
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I gotcha. You were thinking right.
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You tell... Until I learned about how
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tickets are handled and, and all that shit. Because otherwise, you could do that.
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I guess.
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And you would usually break even
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and maybe hit something big.
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Okay.
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You could.
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I mean, I'm, I, I don't know what the math is on scratch-off lottery tickets.
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Given unlimited tickets-
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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Eventually-
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Yes.
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... it would even out.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah. The reason that it doesn't even out for you is 'cause you're not buying enough of them.
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Hmm. I, I feel like it's st- I feel like the
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deck is stacked against you. Isn't that the idea of lotteries, is they-
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Ever so slightly.
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Hmm. Okay.
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But-
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They skim it off the top.
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But you, like let's say you scratch off 3,000 tickets-
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All right.
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... and in there you win a $5,000 ticket.
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Okay. All right.
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A, a $5,000 ticket.
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Right.
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You're $2,000 ahead
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if they were $1 tickets.
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If they were $1 d- Okay, that's fair.
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You know?
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That's fair.
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Like it's-
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Yeah.
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That can happen and like-
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Let's go put $3,000 into 1s. (laughs)
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Let's not.
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Anyway, criminals understand this.
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Criminals do understand that.
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But, uh, it's tough. It's tough owning a store-
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Hmm.
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... in California.
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I like the idea of somebody going over the register
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and just
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shoveling packs of cigarettes. Like, who's...
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I, if you were walking, eh, by and somebody
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was doing that, you'd be like, "Hey man, that's, uh, that's wrong."
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Mm-hmm.
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"Just don't do that." I'm pro people stealing shit most of the time, but that's too much.
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Yeah.
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Get outta here.
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Yeah, if it's, especially if it's like a mom and pop place.
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Yeah. What are you doing?
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Don't steal their cigs.
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Rude.
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So it's tough. It's tough out there for shop owners in California.
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Sure.
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And they can't even look up to Captain America.
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Could you imagine owning a store in California or other states where they let people rob and someone comes in
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when, when, when, when, when you're living on tiny margins in your little gas station, you, you're, you,
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you deal with armed robberies, homeless, everything.
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And I know a lot of these store owners and, and you, maybe the whole family that works there
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is altogether, you know, dividing up $300,000 a year between
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eight, nine people that work there. So they're all making like 30, 40, 50, 60 grand a year apiece.
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They're working long hours and then y- people come in and just
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rob you of your stuff and then you go bankrupt and close.
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That's George Soros.
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Is that George Soros?
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It's the same thing in Europe to destroy... There are little towns in Germany with 50-something people or
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100 people, little tiny villages that they'll dump 500, 1,000 Muslim men on them.
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And they complain, they arrest you for being hateful.
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That's war against the West. We can't take it anymore.
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And then we're supposed to be so embarrassed about being American that, oh, well, Captain America
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shouldn't have anything to do with America. I mean, come on.
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Next, you're gonna say that Terry Bradshaw has
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something to do with the Steelers. I mean, that's ridiculous.
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I don't think
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the New England Patriots should have
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anything to do in history with Tom Brady. I mean, that's... Come, come on.
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So this is what happens when people fake populism.
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You end up with this level of pretend concern about these store owners which
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you're just faking in order to disguise your racism and xenophobia. So
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I don't care. Incidentally, Chris Evans said almost identical things-
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Yeah.
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... about the character of Captain America.
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Of course he did.
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But no one got mad then.
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Of course he did.
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Ah, it's weird.
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It is strange.
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Also, Alex's brain cannot make analogies. Saying that Captain America
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isn't just about America isn't like saying that Terry
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Bradshaw has nothing to do with the Steelers. It would be like saying that Terry Bradshaw has nothing to do
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with Bradshaw, which is a name that's derived from the old English for broad thickets.
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Hmm.
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His name would have to be Terry Steelers in order for him, Alex, to make this-
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Right.
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... connection.
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That would make more sense. Yeah.
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The point about the Patriots is just as bad, but in the opposite direction.
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Mm-hmm.
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They would be need to, to be called the Bradys in order for this analogy to make sense-
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Yeah.
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... with Tom Brady.
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Yeah.
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It's fine if Alex wants to say that he doesn't like how people try to sell movies to foreign audiences and it
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offends his sense of patriotism, but it's obvious that that's not what this is about.
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But he could make that argument if that was his actual complaint.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Which-
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But it's not.
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Also, once again, uh, not understanding the very concept of, uh, a, an individual
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(laughs) in response to a government's action saying you shouldn't trust the government. (laughs)
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Hmm.
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They do not have your best interests in mind.
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Hmm.
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I feel like that should be a message that Alex is pro.
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He's not very thoughtful.
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I, I, I feel like that might be true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So he, uh, plays a clip of, uh, some protesters.
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Sure.
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Some immigration protesters.
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People who think that the government has their best interest in mind.
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He says something shocking.
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Okay.
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All right. Here's, uh, some of the clips together. (crowd yelling)
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Radio listeners, it's illegal aliens waving Mexican flags, attacking
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people and beating them up that have American flags and
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stealing the American flag and stomping on it and throwing it.
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Just really friendly stuff.
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I mean, if you went in Mexico and grabbed somebody at a Mexican parade and
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grabbed their flag, you, you'd get beat to death and you, you pretty much should. (laughs) I mean, you know,
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'cause they got a little pride in themselves. What? I'm so sick of taking this.
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So I guess he's not so cool with free speech
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and seems very protective of flags. I th- uh,
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if Alex thinks that the police should beat
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protesters to death for desecrating the flag, then he doesn't care at all about the Constitution or
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his audience should eat him. You know, that's where we're, that's where we're at.
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Yeah, that's absurd.
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He can sidestep that a little bit by saying that the police shouldn't do the beating, but another
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citizen should be entitled to beat these protesters to death for desecrating the flag and waving another
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flag. You get the sense that Alex wouldn't defend that position though across the board. Like let's say if,
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I don't know, someone were to get beat up for waving a Confederate flag.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that, uh, he'd justify that.
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He might have a different, he might have a different point of view on that.
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Yeah, he would- he wouldn't, uh-
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'Cause that would be hurting somebody's history and their, their like,
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I suppose their heritage, some, uh, somebody-
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Mm-hmm.
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... who cared about where they were from, who cared about their past-
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Yeah.
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... who cared about the, the nation that-
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He probably, he'd probably defend that person a little.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It seems too traditionally do that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh. Weird how that works.
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Yeah, these standards are all over the place.
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It does feel like there is not a single standard.
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Except for anger.
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Yeah.
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At the other.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, Alex is, uh, is talking about Trump's great negotiation skills-
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Interesting.
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... with foreign leaders.
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Okay.
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And he says something that I think, uh,
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were there to be a God, lightning should have struck him.
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Okay.
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Trump is sending Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, down to
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El Salvador and Bukele.
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Bukele has said
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that
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he's looking to make a deal with the United States to let them bring non-El Salvadorans there
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and that totally freaks out all the international drug gangs and the rest of them because,
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okay, you make a deal with us
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and pay us, we'll just keep them in our giant prisons.
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(laughs) And that, of course, will shut him off. He's totally shut the crime off there.
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So they're gonna turn that into a little nice little prison planet for them.
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I wanna be clear.
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Alex knows he's endorsing and pushing for everything he's pretended to stand against his entire career.
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He's celebrating Trump negotiating with the president of El
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Salvador to ship people to that country so El Salvador can lock them up there for a price
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and Alex literally calls it a prison planet.
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Yeah.
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That's the name of his website.
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Yep.
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That's his branding that he's now applying to this thing that he supports.
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Yep.
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And that's because he always supported it.
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Mm-hmm.
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After World War II, the people who supported the Nazi
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Party really wanted to downplay how
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much they knew that what they were doing was wrong.Things like this, where Alex supports creating a
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prison planet in El Salvador for people that Trump deports, that should make clear to
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anyone looking back on this time, uh, that Alex Jones 100% knows that what he's supporting is wrong.
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He conceptually understands that treating people like this is wrong, but he also
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knows that all of the cultural groups that he's a member of
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won't be subjected to this treatment, so he doesn't care.
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It was always about white Christian identity. There's just no reason to pretend anymore.
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Yeah.
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So you can say, "I wanna send these people to a prison planet."
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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I mean, and that's, that's... Even if you wanted to be like, "No, this is a smart thing to do,"
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I, I mean, based on his own arguments about the cartels and shit like that,
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I would probably say that if you were going to take a bunch of people
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who have no connection to a place, no contacts at that place,
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and no amount of money to take care of themselves at that place, you have essentially given me
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a draft list of people who are going to join the cartels because they need so much fucking money.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's absurd to, to think.
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It's, it's possible there could be that kind of a unintended consequence.
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It would be easy, it's the easiest... Oh, uh, hey, do you hate America? Surprise, buddy, you are on our team.
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Y- A- A- And it makes it a lot easier to really not like America-
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Yeah.
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... when something that, uh,
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Captain America, Alex Jones-
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Yep, yep.
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... is cheering on is-
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Yeah.
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... a for-profit
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incarceration,
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uh, and extraordinary rendition-type program.
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Yep.
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Like, Alex lived through this. With, in, after the Iraq War and during the Iraq War, after 9/11-
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Yep.
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... there were detention centers in third-party countries
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that, that's a huge shame on the United States'
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record. And one of the reasons that Alex was able to gain as much traction with his,
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"Oh, fuck the government," kind of stuff-
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Mm-hmm.
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... is because the government did do things like that.
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Yep.
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And you could rightly think that he cared.
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Yeah.
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Um, but he doesn't.
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Nope.
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He does not care.
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No, you, you know, you... There's no way not to know
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on account of you are making... Do you... The decision you are making is evidence that you know.
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Because if you say, "Ah-ha, we can't have this prison
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in America, it's against the law," well, then the answer to that is, "You don't get to have that prison." Not-
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What if you pay?
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"Well, we'll just put it-"
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What if you pay?
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"We'll pay somebody in another country for it."
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Ah-hah.
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What?
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Hmm.
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No! You're wrong! Otherwise it would be legal here!
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It's you who made it legal or illegal!
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Seems like it would be a nice incentive to keep those prisons full too.
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I mean, absolutely insane.
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Oh, well.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, Alex goes to the first press conference that the, uh, press person
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is doing. Sure, and it's, I don't care.
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Yeah.
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Uh, she does say that the New Jersey drones weren't aliens.
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That's nice.
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Yep.
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Were they, were they w- I mean, I know they were suspected aliens for quite some time, but
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everybody was just saying, "Don't worry about it."
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They were totally cool.
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Okay.
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"Don't worry."
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"Don't worry about it."
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Yeah.
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"Okay."
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Some of it's like, people like drones, all right?
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"I'm not gonna worry about it, then."
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Yeah. So, um, there's one big story that Alex does touch on, uh, through this episode, and it's that Trump
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is firing a bunch of inspector generals.
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Sure.
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And he keeps trying to cover this by not covering it-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and blurring the lines of what is actually going on.
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Okay.
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So I said over and over again, it's a no-brainer, it's
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not like I'm saying something really th- this is not known, but
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Trump must immediately remove the FBI director or he'll quit before that. He must immediately put his
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people into all the key agencies. He must immediately fire
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all the globalish US attorneys. He must immediately
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fire all these little illegal... It
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turned out it was illegal. Jack Smith's was
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clearly not constitutional. And then, and then get rid of these crooks.
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And that's his right to fire whoever he wants.
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You got Pencil Neck Adam Schiff, I got the clip here, you don't wanna hear it from him, but
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I'll show you the transcript. You know, "Oh, this is illegal." He's sorta stuttering, because it's not.
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Reagan fired
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US attorneys. Clinton fired 98 of the 100, 98%.
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Obama, half of them. On and on and on.
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And so Trump's doing what must be done.
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On this episode, Alex is trying to cover the story of Trump firing inspector generals,
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or inspectors general. Alex is attempting to rationalize that this is a
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good and just thing for Trump to do, and the
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way he's arguing that is by saying that past presidents have fired US attorneys
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and Trump was right to fire Jack Smith, who was a special prosecutor.
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That's all good and well, but Alex is comparing apples and oranges here.
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Inspectors general are not the same thing as
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US attorneys or a special prosecutor. They exist specifically to be independent
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oversight entities within government agencies.
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They're appointed by the president, but their role is meant to be strictly
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non-political. In essence, they serve as a safeguard to make sure the president can't
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just exploit government departments for their own purposes. This is not like
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Trump replacing US attorneys, which
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is a fairly common thing that presidents can do in a new administration.
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This should be seen as a serious threat that Trump is making to the
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foundation of oversight within government agencies
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by attempting to pre- uh, place loyalists in positions that are meant to be watchdogs.
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The move is very clearly illegal. And even Lindsey Graham acknowledged that and said, quote,
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"Just tell them you need to follow the law next time." Sure sounds like some members of Congress
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don't give a shit about the law. (laughs)
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Hmm.
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And, uh, yeah, so, I mean, it's just blatantly
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n- uh, illegal and, and, and horrific.
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I mean, yeah.
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But...
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But, you know?
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It's what you expect.
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It's, it's, it's just,
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it's just a thing where
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there is no legal or illegal, there's just who gets, uh, who gets laws enforced on them.
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And that's kinda it.
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And, and it's really, really sad to see somebody who is, you know,
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Lindsey Grahams, you, you, you are the person who should be saying
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that you can't do this. Don't, don't, uh, just kinda, "Meh."
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I mean-
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"I can't do anything."
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But, I mean, eh, the problem, the problem I have for these people
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is that this is their crowning achievement, and they don't even get to enjoy it.
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I don't understand. If I'm like Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham, I am crowing, "I
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lied to all of you, you dumb fucks. Surprise,
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we own everything now." How is that not at least something you enjoy?
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I am now a duke.
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Right? Like, just enjoy it! It would make me
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feel better to know that they're like, "Yeah, of course, this was our plan. We did this. Thank you."
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Mm-hmm.
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"There's nothing you can do about it, all of you are losers." Like, that would be great!
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I think that they're pretty concerned that that would cause a violent response.
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Aah! From whom? They're the ones who have the military pointed towards the cartels or whatever, I guess.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Eh.
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So anyway, the, th- this is the rationalization and the justification that Alex is making for, uh,
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the firing of these inspectors general.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And he has one other rationale too.
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So here's a report I put out last night. This is Trump's most
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devastating move against the globalist deep state, and it's removing
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them. Sorry, Democrats, there's precedent. Obama fired an inspector general in 2009.
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So this is what Alex seems to think is the slam dunk for def- uh, uh,
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defending Trump, that Obama fired an inspector
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general in 2009. When you hear an example like this, your mind should ask for details.
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What about these situations might be
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similar, and what might be different? By figuring out those elements, you can parse out whether or not
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Alex's argument holds any water.The thing that Alex
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is trying to justify is that within his first week in office, Trump has fired, like, 17, uh, uh, inspector
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generals, including those in the EPA, Hu-
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Health and Human Services, the Veterans Affairs, State Department, and the Department of Defense.
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No concrete rea- reason was given for the firings-
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(laughs)
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... and eight of these people have filed a lawsuit against the government-
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Sure.
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... because their firings were clearly illegal.
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Right.
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According to the Inspector General Act of 1978, and updates in the Securing Inspector Generals
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Act of 2022, there are steps that you
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have to take in order to remove an IG, because if there weren't, then the president or government official
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would, would d- would have a really easy time covering up corruption.
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Yeah.
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You'd just get rid of people who were looking into you.
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That's why Nixon was trying to fire everybody until somebody would fire people for them.
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Yeah, yeah. The law says that the president has to tell Congress
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30 days prior to the date of an intended termination of an inspector
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general, and they need to provide a thorough
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explanation with, quote, "detailed and case-specific reasons for the firing."
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Unsurprisingly, Trump did not follow that law.
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What?
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Conversely, in 2009, President Obama specifically decided to remove
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one inspector general that he'd lost confidence in. This was the IG for the
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Corporation for National and Community Service, Gerald Walpin.
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He was put on notice 30 days in advance, as was Congress.
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Congress received letters from the board of directors of the CNCS who were supportive of Obama's decision
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and said, quote, "Over an extended period of time, we observed how Gerald Walpin's effectiveness
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as inspector general significantly diminished."
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Even though this followed the rules of how a president can excuse an
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IG, Walpin still sued the government, and it was fully litigated and he lost.
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Looking at the basic situations here, you can easily see that these are not comparable,
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but Alex needs to make them seem the same because he'll do whatever he has to do to
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run defense for Trump's actions. There's an extra
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layer of manipulation that's going on here, which goes like this. Alex
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would call Obama removing this inspector general an act of a tyrant. He definitely would.
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Yeah.
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But he's using it as an argument for why Trump removing IGs isn't the act of a tyrant.
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Right.
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At least, that's what the argument is supposed to look like.
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Mm-hmm.
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In reality, the argument Alex is making is that removing inspector generals
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is the act of a tyrant, but that Obama did it, so Trump should be able to too. (laughs)
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Our tyrant gets to do it if their- if your tyrant gets to do it.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's meant to look like an argument appealing to the Constitution or principle, but that's
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really just a mask on, "I have made this look, uh, like tyranny, so I can do it now too."
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Yeah, no, it's, it's an interesting... I think it's an interesting side effect of
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the painting Obama as a tyrant that I don't think they knew was going to happen, insofar as it made it so,
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oh, well, now our tyrant can do whatever he wants because it's not Obama. You know?
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I think that maybe that is more conscious than you imagine. (laughs)
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That's possible.
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I mean, there's a reason that the people in the
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John Birch Society were running around talking about Eisenhower being a commie.
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Sure, sure.
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You know? Like, it's-
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Right. But I don't, I mean, th- I don't know if they meant to, to, like,
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I don't know if they knew that people would catch on quite so quickly
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with being like, "Yeah, tyrants are cool, as long as they're not Obama," kind of thing.
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Hmm.
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You know?
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I think-
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It's interesting.
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I think that, uh, there is a, a trend within that extreme right-wing
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ideology...
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Sure.
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... that is, make your enemy the devil, and then you can do devil stuff.
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And then you can be the devil, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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You can be just a little bit-
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Well, that's, that's every politic- that's p- politics. That's politics.
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It's more- I think it, it, it's,
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it's, it's a problem that it, it does exist universally-
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Yeah.
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... but more in that, in that right-wing, uh, JBS lineage than others.
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Yeah, but that's ironically exactly what
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we're talking about.
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Mm-hmm.
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Is that by them being more of it, it allows it
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for other people.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, maybe. Um, so Alex talks a little bit about, uh, NGOs that are, uh, taking over the government.
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Sure.
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And, uh, this, this, I thought, was, was wild.
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Mm-hmm.
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Now, let me get to the real key here,
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'cause it's not enough to fire the operatives in the government. You gotta
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cut their money off, which he's doing.
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But you also
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have to expose these people. So this next thing that ties into this, I'm an expert on.
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And
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Anthony Sutton was the head US archivist for more than 30 years of the US Senate.
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He ran the intel for Senator Frank Church's
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committee hearings that were the biggest
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ex- exposure of the deep state in history. It's about to get bigger with Kash Patel.
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But he wrote five, at least five books that I read
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off of those documents,
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and I was able to talk to him quite a bit, but he was too old he said, but he said he was too old to come on but
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he w- he listened to the show. Th- the point was, is that he's where we learned all this. And
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th- there was other knowledge as well, but
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around 1900, the big banks and the robber barons and JP Morgan and, and, and, and, and
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John D. Rockefeller r- went public about it
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then, they were in the news, saying Americans are too informed or too educated,
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we've got to find out a way to take over society. So they created tax-free
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foundations to get around the Sherman Antitrust Act.
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Bill Gates just follows suit with his so-called, you know, nonprofit that makes even more money
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and lets him buy off governments' regulatory systems.
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And
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they get hundreds of billions, conservatively, a year
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of tax money
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and then, whether it's brainwashing
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kids or transgenderism or open borders or chipping in migrants, that's
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where the money comes from. The government
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to the tax-free foundations to the nonprofits to the NGOs
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and they, they, they buy out the universities and the churches and the, you know,
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2.6 billion to the Catholic Church in four years to smuggle kids in.
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That's come out. Not, not hundreds of millions, 2.6, 2.3. I showed the article yesterday.
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So, a lot of the stuff that Alex says in that clip is just stupid and wrong, but-
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Yeah.
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... before I go any further, I wanna indicate where there is the slightest, tiny
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bit of agreement that I have with Alex.
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Okay.
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In the way that, uh, our economy and system are set up, the
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super rich are able to use foundations and charities to mask and redirect massive amounts of their wealth.
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Totally.
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The system is very exploitable, and we've seen how it functions in terms of
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aiding the already very rich and hoarding resources.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's an untenable system and it needs to be
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changed, ideally in a way that doesn't hurt legitimate
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philanthropy, but stops massive corporations and billionaires from exploiting loopholes.
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And that is where our agreement ends. The rest of this shit is just John Birch Society nonsense.
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Anthony Sutton wasn't the Congressional archivist, he just wrote conspiracy books about Bolsheviks and
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skull and bones. He's considered a bad historian, a shitty source, and, and, and a bad writer.
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Hmm.
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This is all a fun story, but it doesn't also make sense.
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The globalists apparently set up this system because they needed to get around the Sherman Antitrust
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Act, but why would they allow the Sherman Antitrust Act to be passed to begin with?
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It's not like the globalist plot just started 50 years ago and they're adjusting to new realities.
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Their boss is the fucking literal devil.
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Mm-hmm.
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If the whole system that we live in now was created
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just to get around the Sherman Antitrust Act, it
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seems like it would be easier for the globalists if they just overturned that or didn't let it pass.
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They have magic powers and kill people all the time, and it seems like
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they have free run of all the government's power for over 100
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years, so it doesn't d- seem unreasonable to assume they could just undo this law.
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And interestingly, pretty much the only people who want to overthrow the Sherman Antitrust Act are folks on
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Alex's right-wing libertarian side.
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Crazy.
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They believe that the market would sort it all out, and these are just limiting
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freedom by having... You, you know, like, if you have a monopoly-... that actually works
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and gives people what they need-
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Right.
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... the market will allow that, but if you're a bad monopoly, the market'll take care of that.
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That's why everybody loves Comcast and AT&T.
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They love 'em.
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They love 'em.
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Big business wants there to be no antitrust laws, and Alex's ideological forefathers were shills for
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big business. Whether he wants to accept it or not, his entire
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conspiracy framework, and by extension his
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religious beliefs, are based in kissing the boss's ass. And that's
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all he's got.
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Yep.
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Um, but I do like to point out those little moments, uh, where there's the agreement-
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Sure.
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... which is, like, this is an exploitable system-
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Sure.
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... that the super rich can use.
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Mm-hmm.
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And the reason that I like to point out those moments of agreement is because
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those are the places where Alex lies to you.
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Yeah.
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Those are the places, um, like 15 years ago you coulda heard him say something like that-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and been like, "This guy's saying some shit."
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Yep.
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"He's onto something." Um, but he doesn't care.
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Nope.
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He's not going to resolve this, he doesn't have a solution to this problem-
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Mm-hmm.
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... he just wants to kick out immigrants.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's, it is just so clear, like,
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people do want to hear the truth said.
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Mm-hmm.
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People do want to hear you say, "This is fucked up," and not immediately follow it up with,
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"But here's why the system says we can't
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do anything about it now," or, "We have to wait until the next four years, or we have to do-"
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It's unsatisfying.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And it's-
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People wanna hear you say, "This can't be going on anymore."
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Right. And here's what we're gonna do about it, Tom Homans gonna throw people out of the country.
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Yep.
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Um-
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It's a big difference.
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It's, there's a difference between appealing to incremental change-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and hopefully in the future we'll be able to work the system better-
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Yeah.
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... um, there, there's a difference between that and scapegoating.
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Yep.
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And Alex has proven that scapegoating is appealing.
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Well, I mean, the problem is whenever the
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incremental change doesn't work, people are gonna go right to scapegoats.
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Mm-hmm.
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Love scapegoats whenever incremental change fucks up.
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It's, it is an unfortunate
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reality.
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Mm-hmm.
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So another unfortunate reality is that Elon Musk, uh, was, he spoke at the AFD conference.
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Great!
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And, uh, people are psyoping him.
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What? Mm.
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Well, this is the type of crap they do. Overhead shot please, and we'll show you the HD of it on screen.
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"Fears for security of Jews worldwide
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in wake of Elon Musk AFD speech."
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Now,
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look at this article.
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What do you see there in the photo they've got?
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Well, it's Elon,
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Saturday on a Jumbotron, speaking to AFD,
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which is the preeminent growing, winning-
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Nazi.
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... as Trump, his party, not even as conservative as Trump.
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They're more Ron Polish really. I've looked at their policies and
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listened to their leaders.
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They've been around for decades. So, A-
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He's Heil'd them.
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... Elon's pro-Israel, not anti-Israel. He's pro-Jew, not anti-Jew, that's known.
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And they have no evidence here, they just say, "Jews are scared," but look at the picture there.
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You've got the written lies, you've got the loaded question
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about people are scared,
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and then there is a person waving a
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AFD sign, and all they had to do is pause the video
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when it went over his nose to give him a Hitler mustache.
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Yeah. So Alex is totally right inasmuch as
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there's a still frame on this, uh, story that was chosen because someone's flag
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is covering Elon's face in such a way that it creates a Hitler mustache.
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That's pretty funny. That's pretty funny.
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There is no doubt about it, it is an intentional choice.
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That's pretty funny.
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It's an unflattering and maybe a little winking
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choice for an image, but Alex has never had a problem with inopportune timing in photos
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with people he hates, so I don't know why he cares so much here.
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Yeah.
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More importantly, uh, Alex is claiming that the headline is, uh, asserting this thing with
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no evidence. The headline itself is, quote,
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"Fears for security of Jews worldwide in wake of Elon Musk EFD, uh, AFD speech."
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The article is in The Guardian and it's, uh, it, it
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ref- it references the position of Holly Soyfer, the ex-
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chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America.
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In the article she says, quote, "The
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salute, the message to the AFD, the fact that he's willing to joke about the criticism he's getting,
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it all demonstrates that those around Trump are unwilling to recognize how
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dangerous their words and actions are.
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They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this alignment. It's been a steady
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stream of signaling to right-wing extremists that they have an ally
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now in the White House." Some of the other
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stuff in the article that it brings up are that, uh, Trump didn't release a statement for
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Holocaust Remembrance Day, but he did pardon the guy who stormed the Capitol on January 6th wearing a
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Camp Auschwitz shirt, which was timed tragically, that pardon timed
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right around the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
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Hmm.
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So when Alex says that these claims are being made with no
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evidence or backing, it's because he just skimmed the headline and he got mad about this picture.
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If he'd read the article, he would know that this is reporting on the
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views of a prominent Jewish American activist
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who's reporting her sense of how people are feeling about Musk's super obvious actions.
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But the picture I understand, like, you just see that and you're like-
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Hey.
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... come on.
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I mean, there's never been a bad picture where
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somebody's accidentally gotten in the way, it's like a Mar- uh, Margaret
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Thatcher standing in front of something and she o- obscures a word and then it says fart.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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No notes.
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Yeah.
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Margaret Thatcher in front of fart, I'm gonna laugh.
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Sometimes pictures happen.
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It needs to happen.
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You know?
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It needs to happen. We need to see it.
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But no. This is a subliminal message campaign-
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That sounds true.
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... meant to attack Elon Musk.
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Damn it.
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It's not just The Guardian, they're all doing it. So globalist corporate media...
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runs subliminal message campaign...
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to associate Elon Musk with Hitler.
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I
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think he's doing that.
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And they ran the image all over the place
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and I, I looked, when I saw it this morning I went and looked, I didn't
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see anybody, m- maybe they are now, pointing out
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th- how ridiculous this is. Now let me give you another example.
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So see, that's what I do, and I've been doing this for 40 years, but really I've been dialed up for 31
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in April on air, that'll be the anniversary.
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That when I look at things,
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I'm looking for what they're hiding, and I see it. And it's not like I'm a schizo, you know, that sees
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the Virgin Mary in a piece of burnt toast,
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or I see giraffes in clouds. No, I mean, I,
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I see
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what they're pushing, what the image is.
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And you catch it instantly.
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And I saw this r- an hour before the show and I thought, "Certainly someone's
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picked up on this." (slurps)
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And no one was pointing out, look at this
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photo, look what they're doing, look at the headline, look, it all is one message he's Hitler.
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So this is, uh, not subliminal. Uh, it's very overt, and honestly
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kind of the best picture you could run with a story (laughs) like this.
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When Trump got shot, obviously the picture of him with
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blood on his face in front of the flag was gonna be the image that went with that story, and even
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though it had a strong potential to create a deceptive hero narrative about
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Trump, the picture was too good. There's no way you're gonna fault some outlet for running that picture.
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Similarly, in this case, noted bigot and eugenics fan Elon Musk was giving a speech at the AFD rally
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telling the audience to stop worrying about the guilt of the past, and at an inopportune moment the
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shadow of a flag covered his face in a way that really looked like a Hitler mustache.
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Mm.
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We have the media that we have and we have their traffic
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incentives that they, they, they exist within, so you're never not gonna use that image if you have it. It's-
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Yeah.
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... just come on, man.
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Yeah. No, I agree with you in every way and yet somehow hearing the words
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out loud, "We have the media we have," is such a bummer. (laughs) It's such a bummer.
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But I, I-
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We do have the media we have, don't we?
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I would suggest almost-
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(laughs)
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I'm doing it. Absolutely. No, no judgment from me.
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Yeah.
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I'm just lamenting the state of, uh, ape kind.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So
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Alex, uh, he gets a little introspective.
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Sure.
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And he starts complaining about his own plight.
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Shit's tough.
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I mean, for everybody out there and... Uh, yeah, sure.
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You know?
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Sure.
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Some days you're like,
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"Isn't it fucking cool that we're raffling off a truck?"
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It is.
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And then other days you're like, "We're raffling off a truck?"
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That's pretty sad.
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(laughs) Yeah.
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It's pretty sad.
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And it's one of the kind of
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l- downer days-
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Ah.
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... uh, around InfoWars, I think.
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They've already been caught with the fake bids, caught with the
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fake auction, caught kicking us out of the building or trying to twice,
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turning off the internet, saying we were shut down, saying
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Bloomberg through The Onion owned it, this Everytown Group, and they, they're really embarrassed here.
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Well, (laughs) they're gonna be really embarrassed soon.
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We got some real nice stuff in discovery
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and... That makes what you've heard about sound like
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nothing.
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What you haven't heard about.
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And they just think, "Well, we can do this to Alex Jones.
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We can do all these illegal things to him, like we did Trump.
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We can have a conspiracy against his rights.
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It's open season 'cause we're the good people and he's the bad guy 'cause CNN said so. He peed on that grave."
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Never been to Connecticut. Nobody ever peed on it. Made up.
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But people back then still believed, "That son of a bitch is pissing on graves
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and going to people's houses.
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And Elon Musk has got a Hitler mustache too."
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(laughs)
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"See all those damn white people.
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New Yorker Magazine."
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So
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it's a new game, folks, 'cause people are onto them. And now
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the public is into researching and finding the
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lies, and it's exciting to discover it and, and, and break with all the mind control.
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But there's a problem.
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You gotta sell a lot of sea moss, which is excellent-
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Oh, my God.
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... and a lot of Twitter, which is amazing, and a lot of T-shirts-
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(laughs)
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... to fight the Democratic Party deep state that's still coming after me.
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Mm-hmm.
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They even say, "Well, Trump's in, but J- Jones, if we shut him down, will be a consolation prize."
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I don't think anyone says that.
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I think that should go into the national lex- You gotta sell a lot of sea moss to fight the devil.
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To fight the devil? (laughs)
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Yeah, abso- (laughs) Like, that should be our... That should go down in history.
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Oh, you gotta sell a lot of sea moss to fight the devil.
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So much sea moss.
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How much, how much in sea moss do you gotta sell to, to win this fight? That's the question.
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H- How much wood would a woodchuck chuck?
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Oh, you'll never know.
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Sea m- That's how much sea moss you gotta sell to fight the devil.
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(laughs)
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And like, I mean, earlier Alex was saying, like, most of the shit that
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I get is from people commenting on Twitter.
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I mean, ugh.
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Y- Y- It takes a lot of sea moss to keep me scrolling through Twitter to
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k- tell you things to be mad about. (laughs)
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That you told me. It takes a lot of sea moss for me to
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circum- circulate things that you are all rumoring about to each other.
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Yep.
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And then I piggyback on the fact that you guys go,
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"Oh, that's like what I said," and I get a little bit more money. I'm a parasite.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You should just start selling, like, dirt pills or something.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't know. What's the ne- What's next?
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It's a capsule full of dirt. It'll be-
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God made dirt. Dirt don't hurt.
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Absolutely. And then there's the, the fecal matter transplant- plants.
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That's a... That... You need bacteria in your gut, so we've got poop in a pa- in a pill. We got poop pills.
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I wouldn't put it past him.
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I wouldn't put it past him.
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So, uh, A- Alex has, uh, Mike Adams on.
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Sure.
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Um,
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because he's an expert.
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Uh, and what is he an expert in today?
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See, that's the issue.
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That is the issue.
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He's the health ranger.
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Right, so we should stick to health.
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Nope.
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Oh, shit.
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AI.
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So he's an AI expert.
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Totally. Always has been.
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That, that sounds the most untrue.
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Also a expert in running smear websites
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against high school, uh, students who were the victims of school shootings. (laughs)
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That one.
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Yeah.
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That sounds like there's a lot of experience there.
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Uh, HoggWatch, I believe-
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Uh-huh. Yep.
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... was, uh, Mike Adams' w- website-
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Yep. Yep.
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... uh, harassing David Hogg.
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AI.
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Cool stuff.
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Not so much.
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No, he's, he's big into it, and he thinks that, uh, the problem with AI-
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Mm-hmm.
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... is it's fucking woke.
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That's why China's-
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Whoo!
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... uh, AI system, DeepSeek, that they, they released-
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Yeah.
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... it's so much better.
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Wait. Wait, wait, wait. So he's pro... Where is everybody standing?
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It's not woke.
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Fucking pick a spot and stay there, for God's sakes.
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He still hates China-
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Ugh.
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... but he thinks it's a great gift that they've given the world-
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Oh my God.
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... because it's not woke.
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Right.
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People talk about DeepSeek from China
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being censored, and I say, "You're wrong."
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Yeah, DeepSeek may censor conversations about Tiananmen Square, but the US AI models
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censor any criticism of Big Pharma. They censor the truth about COVID
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origins. They censor the truth about the stolen 2020 election.
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They censor the truth about 9/11. You name it, the US models censor all of these subjects.
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The US has far more censorship than Chinese models. And Alex, I-
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A- a- a- a- and explain, 'cause you're an engineer, but I've read the studies. Why does manipulating it
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to, to, to, to make it deceptive
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o- on not just wokeism, but on everything, how does that make AI stupid? How does it hold it back?
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Because you can't have a reasoning model if
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the model is programmed to be irrational and to say that men can have babies. Okay?
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I mean, they are obviously contradictory concepts. Well, I asked DeepSeek.
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I have DeepSeekR1, a 32 billion parameter
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model running on my desktop. Okay? It's, it's, it's amazing. It's the greatest invention in human
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history. Okay? And I asked it, "Can, can men have, uh,
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get pregnant and have babies?" And it says, "No." Uh, men don't have
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th- th- you know, the reproductive hardware to, to
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have a, a baby. Uh, they don't have the hormonal hardware. I mean, obviously
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men can't have babies. But if you ask Google, "Can
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men have babies?" It says, "Oh, of course men can have babies."
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Or if you ask, you know, Anthropic or Microsoft or Meta, they're all over men can have babies. Well, you can't
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have a reasoning model that is good at reasoning
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if you teach it to be cognitively retarded, which is what wokeism is. So wokeism is cognitive retardation.
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That is the opposite of innovation, and that's why we're in this situation behind
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China, because China rejected wokeism while America's leftists
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pushed wokeism. Trump is trying to rescue us
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from that, and many conservatives are trying to rescue us, but we are behind
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the curve right now. We are losing in this race badly on an urgent basis.
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Okay. So I know you, you're, you're, you're, you are an AI expert. Uh, for people that don't know, Mike's-
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We're building a model that I'll bring to you in
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about a month that'll blow your mind. I'll demonstrate it in your studio.
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Well, please. S- s- so I've known Mike about 17 years. Really smart guy.
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Real smart guy. Um, he cured Ebola. Uh.Here's what I want.
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Yeah.
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All right? What I want from these people,
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and what I want, not... Like, I'm not gonna get it. What I want the people who agree with them to want
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is a list, a list of the things that will happen once you get rid of wokeism.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? Woke mind virus is dead.
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They've got it.
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Alex already declared it dead.
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Right, right, right, right. So what I want-
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Musk declared it dead.
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What I want people who hate DEI, wha- what I want is b- for my, like, for, like, my family,
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just write down 10 things that will improve or th- just 10 things that will happen-
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Mm-hmm.
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... once wokeism is gone, over the next four years,
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and see if any of them happen. If none of those things happen, then maybe it wasn't wokeism that you're
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unhappy with.
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Right.
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But nobody's gonna make that list.
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No, probably not.
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Also, it's kind of a joke that, uh, people
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make that is like, "Oh yeah, the reason we can't do this is woke. You know, woke got in the way."
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It's not a- it's not a joke anymore.
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But it's not a joke for him.
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That's what they say.
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Yes.
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That's what they say. Woke is in the w- Avo- woke things.
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But I thought-
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Even rhymed three times with situation, uh, uh, uh, s- whatever it was he said.
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The other thing too is like, um, I, I thought that Alex infected the AI models and like-
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I remember that.
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... he was the antidote, uh, in the matrix.
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I remember that. Yeah.
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So like, I thought this should be probably covered.
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(sighs)
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I guess it's not.
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Oh my God.
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These people are fucking stupid. I, I feel like when I listen to Mike Adams-
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Yeah.
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... I feel...
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... like
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I'm babysitting.
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Yeah.
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Like, it really feels like a child.
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Yeah.
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Uh, the reasoning and the com- the level of complaints, the level of expertise in every fucking field-
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Mm-hmm.
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... even though his career is littered with the corpses of humiliation-
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Yep.
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... uh, it, it's just... I can't take him seriously.
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Here's what I find so fascinating about AI and the way these people interact with it, is that there's only
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two ways that I've seen anybody interact with it through
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the books that I've read about it, uh, and then through people who talk about it and, like,
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do their stuff and, like, keep people up-to-date, is that there's incredibly smart people
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who can code the fuck out of shit who are playing with their fun toy.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then there are incredibly stupid people who think that it's more than a toy.
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Mm-hmm.
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And both of them are incredibly stupid to me.
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And Alex is gonna probably interview Mike's AI.
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Yeah.
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That'll be fun.
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'Cause nobody's, nobody's just going like, "Oh, this is a dumb toy. We fucked up."
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Mm-hmm.
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"We made a toy."
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"We overcommitted on this."
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"We overcommitted on a toy. We blew it," you know?
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Eh, that might be the end result, or maybe we will become a colony of China.
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Sounds right.
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Now, I know that Mike has, uh, said that, uh, it's over for humanity.
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Sure.
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There's only gonna be lone survivors.
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Yep.
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Uh, that was a number of years back.
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Right.
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He also said that during COVID, China was gonna launch a ground invasion of the United States.
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Did do that. No, that happened.
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Um, and now-
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RIP Wisconsin. (laughs)
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... and now because we're too woke-
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Right.
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... their AI is gonna take over and we're gonna be a colony!
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Sounds true.
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A- and look. Let me put it this way, Alex. If
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we don't become competitive in the AI race, we will be a colony of China
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within five years. That's how crazy the situation is right now.
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So what does Trump need to do and what do we need to do?
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Trump needs to decentralize an open
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source AI right now. Trump needs to, on an emergency basis, reform the entire university system, fire every
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woke teacher, every woke professor, every woke administrator across the entire education system. And
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we've gotta end all censorship across the board, including the censorship that's still on X.
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And, and by the way-
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Are you Chairman Mao?
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...
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... engineers are saying what you're saying, I mean, it is, it is wild.
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(laughs) Yeah, it's wild.
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What the fuck? Did we just get cultural revolution?
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(laughs) I think we did.
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Did we just get cultural revolution?
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But it's like Mao with a cowboy hat 'cause he's a Hell's Ranger.
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(laughs) Right, a, a Mao boy hat.
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And a pacifier 'cause he's a fucking baby. (laughs)
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'Cause he's a fucking baby. Yes.
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(laughs) He reasons like an-
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Unreal.
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... like an infant.
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Unreal.
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Yep.
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So if we get rid of all the woke,
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um-
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Everywhere.
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I mean, what, what, what's, what's going on
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in theoretical math that woke is fucking up?
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Uh, is the professor not white?
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God dammit, you win. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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I obviously hadn't considered just being racist about it.
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Well...
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But no, it makes perfect sense.
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Listen, I need to take context clues.
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(laughs)
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When I'm hearing somebody yell at me about how everyone woke must be purged from society-
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Yeah. (laughs) No, you're right.
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... I have to take context clues from other things that they're saying about woke stuff.
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You're right.
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And so here's, uh, Mike talking about how, uh, lesbian firefighters are woke.
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Sure, that sounds right.
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America's behind because we have been sabotaged. We've been sabotaged
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by the Democrats. We've been sabotaged by
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wokeness, the dumbing down of our school system, the dumbing down of our corporations.
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We now have a culture in America, which of course Trump
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is beginning to reverse, thank God, but we have a culture-
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How?
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... especially in Silicon Valley and in the tech areas, where
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the, the most woke person is given the advancement to be in charge of projects
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instead of the most qualified person.
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Our universities have been turned into woke indoctrination centers instead of education
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centers. Now, there are exceptions to this. There are still some
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good universities, but, you know, across the board, they're
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just woke factories. They're indoctrination centers.
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I mean, look at what happened in LA recently with the fires. Did we have competent fire chiefs? No.
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We had lesbian fire chiefs that were really happy to be, you know, lesbians, but can you put out fires?
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Not really. Uh, can you put water in the fire hydrants? Uh,
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turns out that's not the case. That, that's not part of being lesbian for whatever reason. I don't know why.
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But I don't care if somebody's a lesbian or gay or trans. I'm really gonna care.
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That feels not true.
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(laughs) Yeah.
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That feels not true.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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That feels... I mean, aren't-
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Everything you just said betrays that premise.
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Because if you stop and you really think about what it is you are actually saying, you are either saying you
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hate lesbians or people who fuck women can't fight fires.
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What, they're too busy fucking women?
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Exactly.
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When they're women.
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No, no, no, no, no. See, that's what I'm saying. It's either you hate lesbians-
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(laughs)
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... or people who fuck women can't fight fires.
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No, no, no. You see? You understand? She's, she's too busy being a lesbian. She, she won't-
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What is busy being a lesbian mean?
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You know.
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No, I don't!
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Come on.
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What? (laughs)
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Don't, don't play dumb with me.
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Fair enough. You're right.
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You think me, the Hell's Ranger?
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You're right. You're right.
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She's too busy being a lesbian.
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I don't, I don't understand-
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Doing all her lesbian things. She can't open up a fire hydrant?
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Here's my problem. I think I used to know what the stereotypes that these people used
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meant, you know? Like, "Oh, this person's a lesbian." Back in the
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day, that had a, like, stereotypical meaning
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so that people would think of, like, a lumberjack or something, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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That was the '90s, uh, butch phase era.
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Sure.
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That kind of thing. I don't... I, I have no context for what this is even stereotyping.
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Incapable of fighting fires 'cause he's too busy being a lesbian.
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I don't... See, that doesn't... That's not a stereotype.
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Nope. Um, but it's the, um, it's the mentality that, uh, someone like Mike brings into this conversation-
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Yeah.
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... which is
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if, uh, the person who is in a position of authority is anything other than a straight white man-
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Yep.
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... then, uh, the reason that something went wrong is because it wasn't a straight white man.
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Yep.
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Uh, and conveniently, he's able to play this game, but he doesn't, he doesn't hate LGBTQ folk.
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If it's a straight white man, here's why it's not his fault.
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Mm-hmm.
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If it's not a straight white man, here's why not being a straight white man is the problem.
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Precisely.
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Yep.
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And that's what woke is all about.
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I think you're right.
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(laughs)
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I... I mean, if you really wanna boil it down, white people,
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not at fault. Non-white people, non-straight people,
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fucking just existing is the problem.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And so we need to solve that.
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I feel like, mm...
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Quick, or else China's gonna take over.
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That doesn't sound true either.
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What we have to do now on an emergency basis, and if we don't do this,
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we are toast as a nation. I mean this. This is the end of the West-
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There will only be lone survivors.
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... if we don't become competitive and
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become dominant in the realm of AI. What we have to do on an emergency basis right now
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is we have to denounce wokeism and all of the irrational lunacy that it involves,
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and the climate lunacy, this idea that carbon dioxide is a pollutant, that it's bad for plants somehow
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when it's critical for photosynthesis for God's sake, right?
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And this idea that men can have babies, this idea that there are an unlimited number of genders, this
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idea infected our culture. It infected our government offices. It infected our corporate America,
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our universities, uh, pop culture, Hollywood, all of it. It's gotta go.
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And it's gotta go on an emergency basis. I mean, this is a national security issue at this point.
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So it's a national security issue that everyone cater all information to
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align with Mike Adams' stupid ideas.
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Yep.
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Now, here's essentially what is going on, is, like, he engages with the world
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on the complexity of, like, let's say, a junior high level.
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Yeah.
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Which is, "Oh, carbon dioxide, plants need that to grow."
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Um, he's reading a book
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that's a little bit out of his range, like maybe a high school or college book-
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Mm-hmm.
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... about how excess CO2 has other effects.
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And yes, no one is disputing that it's necessary for photosynthesis. Yes, that is true, but you're not
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emotionally or intellectually mature enough to engage with the adult discussion.
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So instead of...... learning more, engaging with that actual discussion.
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What Mike wants to do is cause an emergency that makes all reading second grade level.
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Yep.
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Make it all elementary level-
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Yeah.
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... all junior high level. "This is all I can handle. All the other stuff is woke shit."
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Yep.
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"I can't deal with that complexity,
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and you guys are the ones who are dumb."
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It is, it is truly... Yeah.
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Like, it is so much... Whenever I go outside,
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every aspect of reality tells me that I'm stupid.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I don't want to believe that. So, I will remove
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every aspect of reality that tells me I'm stupid, and that will leave me and Alex-
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Mm-hmm.
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... sitting in a fucking
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bar somewhere by ourselves.
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Yeah, and the issue is that, like, your point isn't wrong. Like, uh, well,
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uh, uh, a lot of his points are wrong, but, like, just the one I'm using as a case-
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Yeah.
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... in point.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Carbon dioxide is required for photosynthesis-
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Right.
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... is not wrong.
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Right.
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So I'm not saying you're wrong about that. You just need to know more.
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Vitamin C keeps you from getting scurvy. That's why we don't
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replace your entire digestive system with oranges.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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There's, there's more to this story than your dumb, uh-
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Yeah.
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..."Sunlight Makes Plants Eat"-
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Yeah.
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... uh, thing.
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Yeah.
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And
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what the, the... The issue is a lot of people
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who are maybe passive observers or just in the public,
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maybe they get swayed by an argument like-
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Mm-hmm.
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... uh, carbon dioxide's required to make plants grow.
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Yeah.
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'Cause it is true.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you can be like, "Ugh, it doesn't make sense to me." Whatever.
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Mike is not that.
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Nope.
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He knows
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he's (laughs) full of shit.
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I think, I think he knows that in some
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places he's full of shit, and in other places, I really do think he thinks he's the one who's smart.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Like, I know he knows that wokeism is not behind
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all of the shit that he's saying wokeism is behind, but I also think he thinks he's a genius.
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No.
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N- I don't think it even matters.
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Okay.
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I don't think any of that shit matters to him. He is such a craven, opportunist fuck that, like, I, I think he is
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emotionally... And the way he interacts is very, uh, childish.
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Yeah.
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Um, he's not very smart.
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Yep.
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Um, but he also, uh, presents this not smartness in a way that really works for his ends.
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Yeah.
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If he had any kind of, like, care at all or was in any way a sincere actor-
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Yeah.
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... all the dramatic shit about, like, the end of the
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world and all this stuff that he's said on Alex's show, like, he would have to deal with that.
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Yeah.
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He would have to be like, "Man, maybe I'm not a responsible person to break the Health Ranger news."
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I, I wonder-
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Maybe, maybe I should shut up.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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I agree. I wonder if this doesn't also have something to do with, like, as a culture, it is not
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okay, or at least we don't make you feel like it's okay to say something like, "I don't understand this,
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and I gotta be honest with you, I probably never will."
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Mm-hmm.
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"I don't have the interest in learning about it, I don't care personally, and it's not affecting me."
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Nope.
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So instead, you have to, you have to be like, "Oh, I totally understand that." And then, there you go.
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Yep. That's how you end up with, uh, a bunch of Health Rangers.
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'Cause it makes you feel... It doesn't make you feel
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good to be like, "Listen, I don't know what you're talking about, and I
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honestly am never going to (laughs) learn."
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Yeah.
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Yeah! I get it.
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Because learning more about it will threaten the stability of the political beliefs that-
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Totally.
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... I have made the center of my, my being.
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Yep.
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Um, enjoy Health Ranger.
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Oh, okay. So you don't understand, then we,
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uh... You just are gonna believe what you wanna believe regardless, so why
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are we bothering with you telling me
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that carbon dioxide is important for fucking photosynthesis, you know?
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Because it's because we have to eradicate woke.
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There you go.
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So we come to the end of this, and, uh, there's a lot going on in the world.
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Yep.
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And I don't know if we're covering a lot of it. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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Alex has ma- you know, he ma- he talked about the firing of the, uh, inspectors general.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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didn't, didn't s-
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do a great job of it. I think we're missing a lot of stuff that's happening.
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You know, I think... Here's what I think is interesting, right? So
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I'm living where I'm living, and I'm seeing, like,
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if we are in a space where
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(laughs) the, the President can just do some illegal shit and then everybody's like,
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"I guess you can do some illegal shit then," then all that we gotta keep your ears out
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for when somebody's like, "You can't do that anymore, and here's how we're going to stop you."
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Hm.
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Right? Otherwise, it's not really news when he does illegal shit.
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(laughs)
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Sure.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Um, what I was thinking more-
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Yeah.
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... is that, like,
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we're not, we're not getting a lot of c- like, you know, what's happening.
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Sure.
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Right?
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Sure.
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But I bet that Alex,
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his Twitter has a lot more on it.
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Yeah.
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And I start to think that maybe
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he's more a guy who has a Twitter account than he is a guy who does a show.
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Yeah.
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'Cause I bet, like, current events and, like, On These Days, I
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bet he's tweeting like crazy about all the stuff that Trump's doing-
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You're right.
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... and engaging and having back and forth with people.
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'Cause that's how you build engagement. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah! I bet he's engagement farming a great deal,
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but it's not c- like, coming out in any way
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on the show. The show, he's not a show host anymore. He's a guy who has a social
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media account, and the show is kind of an offshoot of that.
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Yeah, he's Tosh 2.0.
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Ugh. III.
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I mean, uh, is, I mean, if... What he's doing is aggregating bullshit that people have sent him on Twitter
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and then (laughs) giving it to us in a slightly more entertaining format, I guess.
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But, but, but it would be like if Tosh 2.0 was primarily a Twitter account.
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Right.
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Or primarily ma- like, online social media account.
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Right.
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And then the show was just talking
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about things that he saw on the tw-
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Yeah.
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I, I don't know how to make it work, but I, I think that...
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I think you're right.
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I, I feel like he has abandoned ship in a lot of ways.
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Yeah.
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There is not, uh, it, it... I don't think it's a priority for him, and I
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think that there's a certain level that he's
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making a bad situation for himself.
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Mm-hmm.
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'Cause if something happens
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and he is kicked off Twitter, he's fucked.
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Yep.
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He has put all those eggs in there, and,
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um, I
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don't think that his brand is gonna sustain
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this support, uh, that he has for Elon Musk.
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Mm-mm.
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I think that the prevailing and correct conspiracy position is to make him the Deep State.
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Yep.
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This is why Trump can't get any of the stuff you want done, is because of Elon Musk.
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Yep.
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It's almost perfect.
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It is right there.
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Right. And so, that will be the angle that
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the sort of more smarter, uh, conspiracy right-wing types like David Icke-
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Yeah.
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... uh, ha- are gonna go that path, and Alex is cutting that, uh, angle off for himself.
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I mean, yeah, and, and it's the smart one if you're, if you're a Trump fan because
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Trump gets to continue being your god-king.
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Yep.
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Uh, it's smart for Trump because he gets to canu- continue stealing from you (laughs) without you caring.
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Yeah.
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And it's smart for Elon because he gets to be the superpowered villain that he obviously wants to be.
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Right, and-
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He's doing Hitler salutes.
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Right, and, and, and it's the smart thing for you as, like, some right-wing dipshit, uh, commentator type-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because
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y- you get to enjoy all of the damage and shit you want to happen and still get to pretend like,
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"I, I'm actually against this."
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Yeah.
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You know? Like-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... you, uh, th- th- you can pretend to have, like, that opposition.
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Yep.
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And Alex is just completely blocking that door for himself.
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Um, so I hope it hurts him in the long run.
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Yeah, you know, I, I mean,
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I feel like he's a... I feel a little bit like he's a loyalist in Belfast.
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Hmm.
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I'm just saying, it's the wrong time to be that.
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We'll see.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, uh, I guess we'll be back with another episode-
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Mm-hmm.
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But until then, uh, we have a website.
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Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
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Whoo, yeah! Whoo, yeah, whoo! And now, here comes w- the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
