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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit
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around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor- Dan.
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Quick question.
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Sup?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot is two-pronged.
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Two-prong.
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Uh, first, uh, we forgot to do this on the thousandth episode because, uh,
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the- this person sent something very nice, like, a month ago or so.
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Yes.
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And, uh, so it was a little bit in advance of the thousandth episode and we kind of forgot.
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Right. Yeah.
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Uh, but thank you so much to Greg, uh, for sending a, uh, Cameo of Alex Horne-
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Yes.
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... congratulating us on the thousandth episode.
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Yes! Yeah, it was really cool.
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Yeah.
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But we didn't want to bring it up because it was for the
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thousandth episode, but we hadn't done the thousandth episode yet.
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Yeah, and by the time we did the thousandth episode, I had forgotten to look up his name.
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Totally.
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And I felt really bad.
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Well...
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Uh, n- A thanking without a name.
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Brutal, yes.
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So, thank you so much.
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Yes.
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That was very nice.
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That was amazing.
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Uh, second...
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Yeah.
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Uh,
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checked out our friend Liza Treager's new special-
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Yeah.
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... Night Owl over on Netflix.
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Night Owl, very good.
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Very funny.
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Yeah.
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So good.
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She's very, very funny.
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She's the best.
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Yeah.
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Uh, so I enjoyed that.
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And she was on TV, uh, talking shit about Bernie Sanders. How fun was that?
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It's true. True.
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She was on a whole commercial.
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Yep.
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(laughs)
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Great, uh, great comedy special.
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Yep.
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I- I recommend it highly.
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Yep.
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How about you? What's your bright spot?
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Uh, my bright spot is, uh, Control. I've been playing-
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The game.
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... the video game Control.
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Right.
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Uh...
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I started you off on a Alan Wake journey.
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Yeah, you started me on the Alan Wake-o-sphere.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, uh, we, uh... Two ships passing in the
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night, you started with Alan Wake 2 and I foolishly began at the beginning.
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Right.
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Uh, uh, but now I'm starting to play Control,
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and, uh, very fun. You know what?
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You can grab things, uh, with your mind
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and then throw them, obviously. Telekinesis. The physics of it are so satisfying.
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All right.
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There's something b- You know, like,
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'cause you've played Jedi games or things like
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s- things where you have telekinesis in the past. There's something about the way
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these things hit stuff, the way that
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it flies through the air, just the way that you can kind of feel the impact.
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I wonder if that would be more fun, like, on the
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Switch, 'cause you could have the Joy-Cons or the little, uh, controllers-
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(laughs)
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... that you actually move around to throw things.
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Right. That's interesting.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think the... Part of the problem w- there would just be sheer, like,
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the graphics on the regular Switch.
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Mm-hmm.
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The pre-Switch 2 is what I'm calling it now.
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Oh, my.
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That's a... Why, why even have it?
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The graphics aren't that bad.
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They're not that bad, but they're not... They're not, like... It's not the strongest of devices.
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What about we get you into a VR situation?
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What about if we get me into a VR situation?
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With this, uh, telekinesis.
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It'd be pretty fun.
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'Cause you have the little hand things.
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Yeah, it'd be very fun.
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Yeah?
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There's some, there's some fun things on VR. I've, I've tried it.
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Mm-hmm.
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I try- I tried a little bit and it made me feel a little bit nauseous.
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Yeah.
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And so I've not explored very far.
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I used, uh, I- I- I- uh,
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d- dancing. That's what I use. Uh, aerobic dance.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's what I use it for.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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VR aerobic dance?
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That's what I use it for. I gotta stay-
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D-
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I gotta stay in shape.
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Do you do the dancing, and in the VR headset you just see, like, the Olympics? Like, as if you're on the mat?
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(laughs) That would be fun.
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The experience of, uh, being down there-
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Of being, of being a- a-
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... being judged.
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... somebody from Australia.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, that's about as good as I am.
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Mm-hmm. As a ray gun?
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As a resonant, um-
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Is that the joke you're making?
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Oh, boy.
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Making a ray gun joke?
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How about that? Why not? It's past, it's past due date.
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It's 2025.
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(laughs)
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No more of that.
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Um, well, I'm glad you're enjoying the game.
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Yes, thank you.
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So, today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over, a little sneaky snake, ss-episode.
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Mm-kay.
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Uh, we're gonna be talking about January 21st, the day after the inauguration.
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Okay. All right.
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Now, at this point, obviously, everyone was buzz about, uh, Elon
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doing a Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration rally.
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(laughs) Right, right.
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And various other things, like all of the executive orders that Trump-
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Sure.
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... uh, put through on the, the first, uh, day in office.
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Yeah.
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So let's, uh, tune in to see how Alex responds.
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I bet well.
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So good. Um, and we'll get to that, uh, real quick, uh, after we say hello to some new Wokks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, "Where lies the strangling
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fruit that came from the hand of the sinner?" Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Hey. Thank you, uh, next, uh... Hello, Nick and Will from Jordan R. Thanks
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to the latter for showing me this podcast. Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And thank you so much to KB McSpazz. The B is for buttons. After listening to 666 shows, I'm
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out of excuses not to donate. Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a TikTok right in the mix, Jordan.
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Ooh.
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So, thank you so much to iateabowlofchiliandinmychiliinducedfuguestateIaccidentallydeletedmypatreonsubscriptionsandtomakeupupforadayresubscribedatahighlevellifeisveryfragile
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thank you so much. You are now a Technocrat.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark. Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean
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Black accent. He's a loser, little,
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little titty baby. I don't wanna hate Black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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This chili is very dangerous.
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Yes, that is true.
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Um, so we start here on the, the 21st.
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Okay.
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And Alex is reflecting on what Trump did on Inauguration Day-
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Sure.
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... and what the most important piece of this puzzle, uh, has been.
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I would like to know that, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I have to say that I rarely have trouble
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saying which action is the best o- of a group of good things. But today,
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it's important to ask, what is the most important thing he's doing?
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Well, in general, it's getting our
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morale up
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and then bringing tangible, real things
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to the morale being up that will actually then
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have that successfully relaunch the civilization.
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But there's so much, getting out of the global carbon tax
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world government regime, the heart of the New World Order, pulling out of the WHO,
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uh, the J6,
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uh, complete pardons. I mean, this is amazing.
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So, Trump did a lot of shit on Inauguration Day, and pretty much all of it
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sucks and is either counterproductive or designed to hurt people.
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Alex has a couple of those examples that he throws out, but I think it's notable that the
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most important thing he did seems to be make Alex feel good.
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All of the stuff that Trump is doing is bad, and it offers no
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path forward in terms of the problems that exist in the real world.
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Climate change is still gonna be a huge problem regardless of whether or not we're signed onto the
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Paris Accords. Public health emergencies and pandemics will
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still be a threat we face, if we're a part of the WHO or not.
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What Trump achieves by leaving these agreements is not actually a part of solving or facing these problems.
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It's an act of cowardice or of wanting to pretend that these threats aren't real.
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When we leave the WHO, we don't become more
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able to sway public health policy and make the world a healthier place.
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We just give up our seat, uh, at the table at the body
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where the world collaborates on addressing those issues.
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None of this stuff solves anything, but it does make people like Alex feel
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good. So, in a way, I think that Alex has actually
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nailed it when he says that that's the most important thing that Trump did on day one.
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Agreed.
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He pandered to the base and gave them the catharsis they needed in order to not give up on the fantasy
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that he really has their interests in mind.
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Mm.
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He gave them just enough to make it so, like, we don't have to cut bait here.
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Yeah. Yup.
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And that's pretty important.
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Yup.Yep.
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(sighs)
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The most consequential thing that he did would probably be something, on- one of those other ones.
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It's, it's nice, it's nice to watch them put out all these executive orders
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and have nobody stop them or have any consequences for it at all.
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Well, the courts are intervening in some of the cases and, uh, we'll see, you know-
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Okay.
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... we'll see what that process leads to. But, uh,
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you know, there's a challenge to the executive order, uh, getting rid of birthright citizenship-
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Sure, sure.
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... uh, for one. And then the freeze-
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Yeah. That'll probably go all the way to the Supreme Court.
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The freeze on government spending is also being challenged.
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Sure. I bet that'll probably go all the way to the Supreme Court. (laughs)
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I understand, uh, what you're saying. Um, but it is not, uh, right to say that nothing is being done.
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Sure.
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You can, you can have a nihilistic perspective-
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I mean-
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... on whether or not this process will lead to a, a good outcome, but-
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Okay.
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... people are, people are responding.
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There you go.
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You know?
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G- I wish them the best of luck.
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(laughs)
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I'm sure that they're going to get it this time. I bet they got it.
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Sure.
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I bet they've got this one. If I believe harder, maybe that's what I gotta do.
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Okay.
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All right?
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So, uh, the enemy that Alex has-
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Yeah.
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They are not, uh, like a political thing, right?
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Okay.
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They're a depopulation scam that, uh, is being run by the devil.
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Right.
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Uh, and so he talks about, uh-
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I assume we haven't killed the devil.
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Hmm.
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The woke mind virus, dead.
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Right.
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The devil's still around.
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Also, the woke mind virus may be... We need to be scared of it later.
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Oh, okay. Well, fair enough.
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But for, for now, it's not a problem.
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Okay.
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Yeah, the devil's still up and around, but he's greatly weakened.
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Old Scratch.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Uh-
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You're not gonna beat Old Scratch with an election.
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No, no.
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So anyway, uh, they're all trying to depopulate the world.
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Mm-hmm.
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Bunch of scientists, what, six, seven years ago, thousands of 'em signed a big letter.
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Astrophysicists, you name it, that the sun
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drives 99+% of our climate. Of course it does.
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We'd be below zero if it wasn't there.
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And
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the UN put out a declaration saying the sun has no effect on climate. You can look that up.
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"UN issues declaration that the sun has no effect on climate." I mean, i- it's, it's like saying,
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"We have a declaration that oxygen is not needed for humans."
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So, you're dealing with
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savage-level lies. Like, Bill Nye the Science
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Guy says there are not X and Y chromosomes in his new children's show.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson says women are as strong as men.
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Next, he'll tell you that leprechauns are real.
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So,
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this is a sabotage system sabotaging civilization and logic, and I know you know that, but
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we have to say, we know you're a fraud. We know
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you're a depopulation weapon system. Everything you push is to sabotage us. You're in a death
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cult. Paul Erlich would go on TV in the '70s, '80s and '90s, he's the Grand Poobah of it all, The Club of Rome,
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and say, "We're gonna have only images of ma- men as bad
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in TV, we're gonna destroy the family. We're gonna cut off the resources where you're so poor
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you can't afford to have kids, and we're gonna dumb people down so they're more easily manageable.
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And that's what we do, because I'm a liberal, and
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that's how we want to sabotage civilization, because humans are bad for the Earth." And they would have
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the liberal talk show host clap and agree.
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A bunch of self-appointed monsters.
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I love the idea that Alex is like, "Next, Neil deGrasse
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Tyson is gonna tell you that leprechauns are real." Now,
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demons walk among us.
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Obviously.
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And I see them and no one else can. (laughs)
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Yeah. My fictional characters are real. This guy's fictional characters are bullshit.
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Cool, man.
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Yeah.
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So Alex wants his audience to treat the other side as if all of their points are secretly about launching this
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demonic population, uh, depopulation agenda, because he knows that's really his only
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chance of winning an argument. If you
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by default assume that anyone you disagree with is secretly
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just trying to advance the devil's grand schemes, you probably won't take any
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time to consider the veracity of the information they're presenting. It's just
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a shortcut to disproving things without disproving anything.
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Sure.
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I think our show would be pretty useless if on episode one I just said, "Alex claims this thing, but
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I don't care about that claim 'cause he's a racist."
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If I'd had that approach, my criticisms would not truly be based in how the things he's saying are bullshit.
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They would be attacking the messenger, and I've tried not to fall into that being the core of what I do.
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I attack the messenger plenty now 'cause he's a dipshit, but I try very hard not to say,
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"This point is stupid because Alex is the person saying it."
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Hmm.
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He's stupid and he's a liar, but that doesn't mean that everything he says is a dumb lie. And I try to
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take the claims as they are.
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Sure.
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Alex's show is useless as a source of information because he's
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training the audience to just assume that anything
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the enemy is saying is a lie, meant to cover up their real
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position, which is that they want to depopulate the Earth on behalf of the devil. It's cheap
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and it's not based on anything. And then beyond that, you
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just have him rambling about all these things that aren't true. When his fantasies intersect with
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reality, where he's supposed to provide the foundation
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for his shit talk, you end up with erroneous claims, like that the UN said the
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sun has nothing to do with climate, or this imagined rant that Paul Ehrlich definitely went on, on TV.
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Hmm.
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Like, it's very...
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It sounded true.
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Oh, yeah.
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It felt true.
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You may notice that Alex's citation for that is so unspecific to the point that it's meaningless.
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Ehrlich apparently said these things on an unnamed TV
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show at some point in the '70s, '80s, or '90s. That's 30 years of
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possible TV appearances. You would have to watch
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all of them to even be able to assess whether Alex has anything to base
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this on, and that's insane. He needs to be specific
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or you should treat this as, oh, here's a guy saying something stupid.
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Yeah.
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Also, I think that Alex is confusing Paul Ehrlich's population bomb with the
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Club of Rome's publication, Limits to Growth. And I think he does that because his grasp on information is
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bad and he just assumes everything is the same thing.
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Yeah, put it all in the same pot.
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Who cares?
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Yeah. If you're, if you're gonna live by
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the three witches' rules, just put it all in the ca- same cauldron,
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swirl it around. Whatever happens, that's what was supposed to happen.
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Sure. No, hey, that's fine.
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Yeah.
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I'm just not also gonna pretend that you've studied things, then.
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Sure, sure.
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You know?
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I mean, I understand that you probably don't go to the
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three witches for, like, detailed, uh, readouts of news.
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If everything is the same thing, all things are interchangeable and
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y- you don't have to read anything because you already know what it's gonna say-
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Right.
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... fine, have fun.
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Yeah.
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But I'm going to treat you as a stupid person
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as opposed to someone who actually knows the things they're talking about.
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Sure.
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So,
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there's one thing that Alex is, is caught onto, you know-
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Mm-hmm.
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... on the 21st, and that is that
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people are saying some stuff about Nazis.
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Sure.
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Saying that Trump's a Nazi.
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Right. Well, for good reason.
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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Um, Alex doesn't seem to know a whole lot, other than that people are talking some shit.
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There's no way to know why people would call him a Nazi.
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No.
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It's not possible.
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It's mysterious.
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Yeah.
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Ignore them.
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Because the last power the corporate media has, with almost no audience, is to attack
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Trump and myself and Elon and everybody else that's fighting 'em, and then have us spend our time responding
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to the BS they put out. Like I saw these headlines everywhere, and I thought I sent it to you guys.
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I say don't respond to it, but what I say, respond to it, but explain it's designed to make you respond to it.
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Don't just respond to the lie, explain why they're doing it so
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then people get it. Elon posted it yesterday. I thought I sent it this morning. I posted it on my X.
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But you've got
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all these mainstream corporate media, AP, you name it,
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and they're saying, "Trump is Hitler-like. Trump's inaugural address was like Hitler."
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And then we all go and debate and say, "We're not like Hitler. Trump's not like Hitler." No kidding.
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No, no, you, you then go address it and explain
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that that's all they've got left, and that if you actually study them and eugenics
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and depopulation, they're the ones that are actually like Hitler.
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So, I think that Alex is probably trying to talk about how
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everyone was criticizing Elon Musk for throwing up two salutes to the audience-
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Sure.
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... that looked a lot like the Sieg Heils.
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Do you mean the Nazi salutes that he threw up?
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But he doesn't even want to say that.
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Right.
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It feels like he's dancing around this without saying it.
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Right.
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And I wonder if that's because
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what, what he's talking about, the theme is that
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if you bring these things up, you're falling into the globalist trap.
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Right.
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So he can't even bring up
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that Elon Musk was doing Nazi salutes.
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That's wise. I-
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Yeah.
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I mean, what's, what's ironic about that is that I do think that is the smartest thing for him to do.
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Just ignore it.
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People are gonna forget about it in two weeks.
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Yes!
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They don't give a shit.
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Totally.
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He's a Nazi! Everybody knows this. Nobody fucking cares.
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For Alex's money, I think it is best just to ignore it.
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Yeah. Oh, he-
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Yeah.
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Well yeah, just be like, "I don't, I don't remember that," and then everybody will not remember it.
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Yeah. We... Like Alex, for whatever he,
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he's done in his life and whatever importance he thinks he has, no one's clamoring for comment on this.
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Nah. Nope.
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I don't really care about arguments about whether or not
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what Elon did w- did was a Nazi salute because I think it's kind of a distraction.
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People like Elon do this type of shit all the time
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and the plausible deniability of it is what allows them to play these sorts of games. The
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joke is in the debating whether he meant to
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do a Nazi salute, when in the real world, his intentions don't even come close to mattering.
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He either meant to do the salute as a little symbol or a troll
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or he made a sincere mistake and he's the stupidest person in the world. He did two back-to-back salutes that
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looked like Nazi salutes at the inauguration of a president who did a racist rally at Madison Square Garden
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as a way of mirroring the American Bund.
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He did these salutes in the middle of a stretch where he's making public statements like,
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"Only the AFD can save Germany," and talking about how Germany needs to give up on its guilt from the past.
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Very Lindberghian, if you will.
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What I'm saying is that this is all, uh, meant to speak to a certain group
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or Elon's revealing that he's a public danger due to how dumb and irresponsible he is
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with public messaging. And I think the group he might've been trying to
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message towards heard him. Folks like
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Nick Fuentes were pretty pumped, as were the folks in the more Nazi side of Trump's base.
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Sure.
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I'm not sure that this is what he was doing, but it would make total
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sense if Elon did this gesture to excite the bigot side of Trump's audience.
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In the past month or so, they've been pretty mad at him about the H-1B visa stuff and him not, uh,
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being a hard no on immigration, so if he decided that he would
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throw the bigots a bone by doing the salute at the inauguration rally, I think it would be a pretty
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good move on his part. Pretty savvy.
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It would neutralize a lot of the heat that he's getting from the extreme end of the base and there's
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literally no risk of him being punished by the more moderate part of the audience.
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Trump doesn't give a shit, so if this is something that Musk planned to do
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in order to placate the Nazis, that makes sense.
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Or he's showing his Nazi leanings or he's a complete idiot with
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no awareness of how he's behaving in public and he shouldn't be allowed to have that kind of platform.
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Whatever the case, Alex doesn't seem too worried about it.
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"Just ignore it!" says the tip of the spear. "Don't even engage!" says the guy who spent months
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whining about how Biden doing a speech at night was Hitlerian.
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Mm.
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Calm down.
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Yeah. I mean,
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for, for my money, it's hard not to think, in the context of everything I know about this man, he is
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very desperate for an idiot on the internet to not be mean to him.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, so he's willing to go to extreme lengths for
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everyone that c- he possibly can get to like him, to like him. Uh, so I would suggest that doing things, uh,
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probably look at who likes him afterwards as to the motive.
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And it also seems like Elon has a, a real interest in shitty people liking him.
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Sure does.
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He seems to have less of an interest in people who are considerate and thoughtful
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and, uh, you know, reflective about life.
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I mean, and also, it does go both ways in that
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if you are thoughtful and considerate, one of the easiest ways to find out for sure is if you hate Elon Musk.
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Sh- Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is a all squares are-
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It's a-
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... are rectangles-
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It's, it's difficult. It works-
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... but not all rectangles are squares.
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It works back and forth. It's very strange, yeah.
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So, I thought that Alex was being savvy and just sort of ignoring-
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Yeah.
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... the Musk thing.
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Yeah.
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But then he keeps talking, and I think he didn't know.
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I think he-
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Oh.
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I think he was surprised to learn that people were upset that Elon Musk did that.
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Sure. Ah, what you gonna do?
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They're the ones that are actually like Hitler.
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(silence)
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Yeah, I'll find it. That's not it. I'll show you.
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Um, it's, uh, Elon reposted or commented on a, um,
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headline about Hitler.
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If you just go to his feed and you scroll through it.
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Set, set Elon Musk where you find it.
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(silence) I
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mean, just type in Trump Hitler and Heil to it.
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Go to Google.
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It's okay in a prof-
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A lot of results for that one.
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A lot of results.
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Hitler.
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So many results.
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'Cause you know me, I'm neurotic. I'm gonna show you something if I see it.
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(laughs)
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Yeah. Nadler condemns what appears to be a Heil Hitler from Musk. Oh, see? This is all they got.
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Uh, Elon Musk performs bizarre
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Hitler salute. So, mainly they're just focusing on that.
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Trump inauguration features neo-Nazis and Hitler salutes. So instead they're
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sh- obviously been, been, been attacks on Trump,
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uh, but it's, uh,
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mainly on Musk too.
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So you get the sense from that moment that
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Alex actually doesn't know what people are talking about, which seems impossible. Elon
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throwing up that salute was a major story in the news and on social media, so I can't
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imagine that Alex is actually unaware that this
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was the center of the story. But maybe he really doesn't know.
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That last headline that Alex reads was, quote,
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"Trump's inauguration features neo-Nazis and Hitler salute from top ally."
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That was about Musk's salute, but also about neo-Nazis who were invited.
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This is about a guy named Timothy Hale Cucinelli
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who got invited for, uh, he got convicted for his actions storming the Capitol on January 6th.
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He's a notable January 6th guy because there are pictures of him online with a Hitler mustache
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and he's an opium, uh, Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist.
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Sure.
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His coworkers have said that he believes that, uh, the problem with Hitler was that he didn't finish the job.
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What you gonna do?
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Inviting that guy who's spoken at Trump's clubs multiple times in the past year
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is an interesting choice, and it looks a little bad when
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Elon Musk then goes on to do what appears to be two Nazi salutes.
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I guess Alex, uh, uh, you know, should
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follow through with his own advice and just ignore this stuff, like the real, you know, tip of the spear.
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Yeah.
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It's what they would do.
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(laughs) I would recommend it. I would recommend it.
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But don't, don't you get the sense from listening to that that it
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feels almost like he's like, "Oh, wait, this is about Elon?"
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It does feel like he doesn't understand
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what people are talking about, which is weird 'cause I know he's glued to Twitter.
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He's gotta be.
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He's glued to it all the time, being like, "Oh, 100 million and one views.
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100 million and two vie-" Like that's how he gets his, that's how he gets off, essentially.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? So he can't not have seen 300 pictures.
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It seems to me un- very unlikely.
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Yeah.
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But he also seems to be, uh, uh,
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showing a lack of awareness-
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Yeah.
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... about
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what, what's going on.
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Well, I mean, maybe on the other hand, he's like, "Why are people complaining?" You know?
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That's possible too.
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"How did you not see this coming?"
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Or-
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"You know where we live now, right?" (laughs)
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Or, "Why are people complaining? I don't see anything wrong with this."
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, I mean, it's, it seems, it seems silly to be unhappy about it now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is trying to get this, uh, headline that he wants to cover-
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Mm-hmm.
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... about the, uh, Nazi stuff.
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Sure.
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And, uh, the crew can't get it. Can't find it.
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Can't find it.
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And so Alex gets pretty mad.
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Yeah.
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This made me feel very uncomfortable.
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Uh-oh.
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So instead they're, see, obviously been, been, been attacks on Trump,
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uh, but it's, uh,
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mainly on Musk too.
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So,
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that's all,
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that's all they've got.
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We can pull the, the Musk-Trump Hitler up though, right?
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Uh, just overhead shot actually. Just, just show on my phone. It's no big deal.
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We'll just show it on my phone.
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We'll do it this way. Overhead shot please.
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There you go, right here. Yep, uh, uh, I shoot over here. (bangs desk) I shoot right here.
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(bangs desk) Here you go.
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Neo-Nazis love the Nazi-like salute from Elon made at Trump's inauguration.
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(thud) And I guess... (sighs)
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I guess, uh, Hulk Hogan too, when he does his muscle pose, is Hitler. I
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guess when surfers Was that your choice-... when surfers do that.
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... for examples?
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That's all they got, folks.
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(smacks desk)
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So,
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what it actually is, is a Roman salute.
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A Roman salute? That's all Alex has got?
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What is he doing?
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I've, I mean, hey,
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you know what? I, I, I don't know, I don't who I'm more angry at. I don't know if I'm more angry at somebody
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who is a professional journalist writing Nazi-like-
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Hmm.
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... or somebody saying that it was a Roman salute.
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I actually prefer Roman salute. At least that's a bald-faced lie instead of a coward, you know?
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Yeah. You know what I'm not mad at though, is whoever was on staff that day. I could feel the energy of like-
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Yeah, they, oh, that feels bad.
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... that sort of abusive parent who you gotta tiptoe around. Like, that felt scary.
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Yeah.
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There's a tension.
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Yeah, there's, there's definitely no good coming out of that relationship.
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Yeah. So, Alex has a headline there about how
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Nazis were thrilled, uh, with what they experienced as Musk throwing up the Nazi salute.
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Yeah.
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That was a headline from Wired, and the reason this is kind of inconvenient for Alex to work into his rant
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is because there, i- i- it's not about the Dems or the globalists calling
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Trump or Elon a Nazi, it's about Nazis saying, "Hey, Elon is doing our thing."
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The article cites a Nazi meme channel admin from Telegram posting,
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"We are fucking back," in response to Musk's gesture.
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A Holocaust denier who works for Turning Point USA said,
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"Holy crap! Did Elon Musk just Heil Hitler at the Trump inauguration
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rally in Washington DC? That's incredible! We're so back!" Alex is getting mad and frustrated because
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he didn't actually prepare before going on air, and these headlines don't quite work for what he
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was imagining that he'd be covering.
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It's actually, uh, revealing a shocking level of unawareness that he must have had when he got on air.
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Also, by descending into this what about Hulk Hogan and it was a Roman
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salute type defense, isn't Alex doing exactly what he said not to do?
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Aren't you supposed to just ignore this stuff?
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This is, this seems like him not following his own advice because he didn't know-
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I mean-
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... what he was talking about.
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... I'm still stuck on Roman salute.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's,
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that's wild.
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Hmm.
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That is a wild thing. If the, if that's where you c- if you can come there
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direct, you know what I mean? Like, if you're not, 'cause it felt like that came out of nowhere.
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But yeah-
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Like, if you're not snaking through like, "Oh, this is, it's obviously Nazi salute.
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Uh, obviously that's a swastika behind him. Um,
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so a swastika, maybe that's a Indian religious symbol. So, ha ha,
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see? I've got you there." But if you're just like, "Nah, that's a Roman salute," you're crazy.
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I think, I think I, uh, I somewhat agree with you, but I also know enough of like
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seeing these types of responses over the years that the Roman salute thing is a pretty knee-jerk, like-
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Just right to it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You train yourself to get there.
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Yeah, 'cause-
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That makes sense.
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... because you're, uh, you, you know,
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you're in Alex's orbit, you're in this world, you're gonna end up seeing-
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(laughs)
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... a fair amount of-
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If you see a lot of Nazi salutes-
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Yes.
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... you gotta have a quick, you gotta have it on hand.
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Mm-hmm.
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You gotta have it in your back pocket.
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"Oh, that's not a Nazi salute, the thing I've seen several hundred thousand times."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You have to, you have to be ready. Uh, and Alex, I think, is ready.
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That makes sense.
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So, w- the premise of this show was gonna be that Alex was gonna take calls, uh, but I think, uh, having this h-
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Elon Musk Nazi salute thing thrown into his lap and him seeming to be unprepared-
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Sure.
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... for it has led to him like, "I'm not taking calls. I'm not doing a Space."
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Don't do it.
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Fuck it.
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Yeah.
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We got a lotta news to get to.
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Yeah. Oh, do we?
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I'm gonna do this. I'm not gonna do an X Spaces now.
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I'm not gonna take calls now
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because I, I've got a lot of material and a lot of news to cover, and
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I just got more philosophical and 35,000-foot view here.
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And there's just too much news and too much that has to be dealt
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with, and I need to go over these executive orders, I need to go over his Congressional
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policies, I need to go over what the left's planning, and I need to
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get into the international news, the military news,
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and the other big, uh, ways that they are now coming after Trump,
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and coming after, uh, his supporters
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and trying to rebrand things.
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That, "Oh, there wasn't an elite before, or if there was, they cared about you."
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But now that Trump and the populist movement
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is taking over all over the world, and a lot of powerful people are
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joining us 'cause they can see which way the wind's blowing,
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the corporate dying media is now trying to become the resistance
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and say, "Oh, there is an elite that wants to enslave you, and it's Donald Trump and Elon
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Musk." These headlines are everywhere, "American oligarchy is officially here."
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And then look who the American oligarchy is. It's Trump, Musk, and Zuckerberg.
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Zuckerberg capitulated
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because he knew he'd failed and his globalist bosses had been
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defeated, so
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he's just a follower.
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But
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Musk
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openly is opposing the actual globalist agenda and helped take Trump over the top and is the real deal.
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And then, of course, Trump
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is the real deal.
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Real deal.
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Real deal.
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Uh, nothing Alex says, uh, there in any way refutes the argument that Trump is ushering in an oligarchy.
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Yeah.
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Alex is just being defensive about how it's kind of undisputable based on the actions that are being taken.
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It's fair enough to have criticisms about the
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corporate media, but Alex should really be forced to reflect on what he's saying.
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Elon Musk is a billionaire with international
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business interests and a ton of reliance on government subsidies and
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contracts that he needs in order to stay a billionaire.
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In advance of the election, Musk bought Twitter and brought back to the platform a
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ton of people who specialized in spreading misinformation and also Nazi stuff.
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He fundamentally altered fact-checking processes and, uh, moderation practices
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in a way that favored people who were aggressive liars.
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He created a system where people could make
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money off tweeting if they got large enough
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audiences and engagement, which gave a financial incentive for people to post sensational content
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regardless of whether it was true or not.
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Musk created a public information space that was
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as if it had been intentionally polluted so it wouldn't really be of any use for the public.
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And then he gave Trump millions of dollars for the election campaign and started doing
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raffles where people could win $1 million for registering to vote, all
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while he gave speeches about how Trump needed to win or else the world would end.
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Alex calls all of this Musk, quote, "Putting Trump over the top," and that's fair enough.
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Elon Musk meddled in the election in a way that, uh,
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he was only able to do because he's a billionaire, and he only
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did it because he knew that that's the best way for him to protect the money, was to get Trump into office.
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In return for Trump putting him over the to- or, uh, Musk put- uh, putting him over the top,
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he, uh, got rewarded with a fake government efficiency office where he'll use that, uh, power to advance his
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oligarchical interests. And then he got to speak at the Trump inauguration rally where he threw up a couple
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Nazi salutes, and he's gonna face no
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consequences for it.I understand that hypocrisy doesn't mean anything and dipshits like Alex have no
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concern for it, but I lay this out to stress exactly what it is that Alex is hand-waving.
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If this series of actions took place, but
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involved Biden, Alex would have very serious problems with how a
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billionaire was allowed to sway the election so brazenly like this.
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His principles mean nothing, so when you
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see him making arguments that appeal to things that kind of make sense, it's important to remem-
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remember that he's just pretending to care about things that make sense to you
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in order to exploit your rationality. And, uh, you should not take it
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seriously. He does not give a shit about any of this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it is tough to square, uh,
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you know, screaming for 30 years about how we're gonna get a dictator and then install a dictator.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's weird to scream for 30 years about how a small group of global elites
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have complete control over the population and they want to
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reduce it, uh, while at the same time ushering in an era of small
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group of billionaires having complete control over the government
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and then using it to, I guess, remove a lot of people from the country.
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Mm-hmm.
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It does feel weird. Although, I wonder if what we should conclude is that if you yell for
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30 years about how your other people are doing something, you are
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guaranteeing that your people will do that thing.
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I don't know if it's a guarantee but yeah, I think th- that in this case,
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you're really seeing, you're really, you're making a compelling argument.
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Yeah! Yeah!
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(laughs)
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Interesting.
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Yeah, I think, I think that something that Alex does illustrate is this kind of career
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of, like, this shit-talking, idiot, wrong about
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stuff, making things up all the time, uh, entertainment disaster kind of guy, um,
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I think that
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what he pretends to be against is often
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kind of baked into what he believes.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I think you're gonna see that.
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Yeah. It's, I mean, that, that classic, "That's what I would do."
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Mm-hmm.
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Is like, "Well, I think you've explained what you want to do."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To other people.
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To other people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, you know how Musk, he threw up those salutes, but like...
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Sure.
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It wasn't really a Nazi salute.
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Okay.
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When you really think about it.
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It was a Roman salute.
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Kind of.
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Kind of?
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And coming from obscurity to-
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That's what he said it was.
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... preeminence,
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is not a elitist movement. It is a grassroots movement
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of, for, and by the people for a pro-human, pro-expansionist plan
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instead of the globalist
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post-human plan.
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A- and that's the fork in the road
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that Elon Musk was just talking about.
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And we have now taken
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the right
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fork.
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So, it's just insane.
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And, and by the way, I didn't properly address the Elon Musk Nazi
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salute because it's so ridiculous. I'm gonna show you a bunch of videos
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of Democrats doing it and everybody else, and, and Hulk Hogan doing it,
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and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is, actually was a Nazi, but the point is (laughs) , is that,
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again, a Nazi salute is if you
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slam your hand into your chest
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and
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then
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say, "Heil Hitler," at the end of it.
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That's-
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Dumb.
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... the Nazi salute.
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Dummies.
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You have to say, "Heil Hitler."
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You gotta.
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So that's a super convenient way for Alex to set the parameters for
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what can or can't be called a Hitler salute. Also,
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real shitty list of people he stammered together. He thinks Arnold Schwarzenegger
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is actually a Nazi, so that example doesn't work. Hulk Hogan famously
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was caught on camera saying the N-word a bunch and then talking about how his adult daughter
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can't date Black dudes. He came up with two
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people, one of whom he believes to be a Nazi, and the other is
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a publicly-known racist who was a speaker at the Trump RNC.
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Alex makes a stupid point, but even if he
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weren't, he made that point poorly. If your rebuttal to someone saying that what Musk did
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looked similar to a Nazi salute is that other people
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have done non-Nazi-salute gestures that looked similar to what Musk did, then a full
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refutation of your argument is just to provide examples of people doing explicit Nazi salutes
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that look similar to what Musk did. There's no, uh, uh,
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there, there's no value to the evidence Alex is trying to present
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in terms of making the argument that he wants to make.
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Yeah.
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But I guess if you need to say, "Heil Hitler," for a Nazi
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salute to be a Nazi salute, then it wasn't a Nazi salute when
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Richard Spencer was Sieg-heiling and saying, "Hail
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Trump." I guess the folks at the Unite the Right rally weren't actually doing Nazi salutes because
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they were saying things like, "Jews will not replace
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us." Alex should probably take his own advice and not even respond to this, because his response has done
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nothing to make me think that Musk wasn't doing a Nazi salute.
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Yeah.
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It has, however, made me pretty convinced that Alex is worried that, uh, people might think that Musk was.
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There's definitely that.
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So Alex is revealing a little bit about his thought process.
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I like this game, though. I like this game. How do you know it's a Nazi
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salute is a good game to play, because that would get rid of our shitty headlines.
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Mm-hmm.
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That would get rid of our arguments, you know? That would get rid of
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Nazi-like salute, 'cause if you just tell me what a Nazi salute is, then you either, it is or isn't that.
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It's like the Supreme Court's pornography, m- man.
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No, it's not!
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You know it when you see it.
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It is not! There is a Nazi salute or there is not a Nazi salute, so just let me know which one it is.
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Mm-hmm.
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I'm not, lis- I'm not, uh, listen. We're not doing Nazi dash like-
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Hmm.
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... in 2025.
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Okay.
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If you do that, that's pathetic.
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Okay.
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And you should be ashamed of yourself.
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I think I probably did.
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Ah!
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At some points-
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Trouble!
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... in this or...
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Trouble!
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(laughs)
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Trouble!
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So Alex gets to the, uh, you know, the information of the, of the piece.
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Mm.
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Which is the executive orders, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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Like, obviously he's a policy wonk.
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Sure.
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That's why
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we, we have that title-
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Sure.
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... uh, for people that, uh, 'cause he, 'cause it's in honor of him.
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Absolutely.
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He gets into the, the real weeds-
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The weeds.
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... of stuff.
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Yeah.
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And so, I wanted to hear what he had to say about these executive orders.
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Mm.
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All right, I've got quite a job to do here in this, um, second hour. I, I wanna go through
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many of the amazing executive actions of President Trump, over 200 executive orders and executive actions
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yesterday.
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Uh, obviously, the pardoning is
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good. The people are innocent, they were set up.
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It's meant to frame Trump and America as a bunch of terrorists.
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It's important to take that
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narrative and destroy it.
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And it's good to just not give a damn what the left says and, and stop
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making decisions according to not being criticized by them or
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doing things so
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you think it makes you look morally superior
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when you're buying into their lies.
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That's important. But this, to the economy and the world, is
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massive.
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There's different numbers and actuaries and studies out there, and really Lord Monckton's excellent
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at, at breaking those down on air, but if they had the net zero plans actually followed through on
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by 2030, and now they've adjusted it out to
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2035 'cause people aren't going along with it, so they don't ever give up, they just
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keep moving the goalpost,
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you're talking about billions of people starving to death.
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You cut the energy off here, people just get poor.
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You cut the energy off in the Third World, they die.
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And then the, the survivors flood us.
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They die here, too.
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And human organizism and does that.
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So Trump issues sweeping pardon of
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the J6ers, that's great, but the big news is,
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Trump orders
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US exit from the World Health Organization.... we'll also be getting into
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that.
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It really feels like Alex is just winging this, and he hasn't really
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even looked at the information he's jumping into covering, all of these
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non-prop pieces of paper on the desk.
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He put off actually talking about the executive orders for the first hour, but now it's time to strap
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in, and it's just rambling. He's manifesting a lot of defensiveness about the January
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6 pardons, because there are some people who say that it would be a good idea to pardon people selectively.
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Like, go case by case through it, and be like, "Hey,
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you were just part of the mob. We can pardon you. But you gotta keep some of the more dangerous people
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who acted violently with clear premeditation. You gotta keep them in jail."
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Alex is opposed to that and favors sweeping pardons for everyone, because
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all of the people he likes are the ones who acted violently and with clear premeditation.
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But then, he starts rambling about cutting off the energy and Lord Monkton, pivoting into
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covering an article. But the headline is about Trump taking the US out of the World Health Organization.
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Yeah.
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Between this kind of shit and him seemingly being on the back
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foot about Musk throwing up that salute, this is a real special
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level of him seeming to be unprepared for the show.
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Yeah, this really seems nuts.
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Yeah.
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What's Lord Monkton d- how is Lord Monkton doing?
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I wouldn't be-
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Is he doing okay?
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... surprised if he's dead, honestly.
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I wouldn't either.
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I have no idea.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it w- it wouldn't be m- commemorated. It wouldn't be memorialized on InfoWars.
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No.
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We already saw him throw Larry Nichols six feet under with no problems.
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Mm-hmm.
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Dang.
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Yep.
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Man. I, I, I don't like feeling more empathy for the characters that died
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than the, the person who cares about them.
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Well, it is strange, 'cause think about it. How else would you ever know that Lord Monkton is dead?
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That's a good point.
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How else would you ever know if Steve Pieczenik died?
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I'll never know.
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Do you think that would ever come up in your life?
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No.
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A rare, like, obscure guy who used to write with Tom Clancy and then turned weird has died.
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That would be a newspaper clipping.
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That obituary would be
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pretty low.
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Yeah, but he'd be a good read.
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Yeah.
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He's lived an interesting life.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if-
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(laughs)
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... obituaries print the legend.
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But they should.
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He should write his own. That's what should really happen.
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And that'd be a book.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Book-length obit.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, Alex is like, "All right. I read the wrong headline." Let's actually
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go ahead and skip ahead to the Paris Accords-
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Right.
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... part of this.
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Yeah.
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But as I mentioned it, Trump signs order directing US withdrawal
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from the Paris Climate Agreement.
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And again, that's where
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Europe, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, the US, and Canada
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get rid of our fossil fuels
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and have a bridge to nowhere
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with supposedly nuclear and wind and solar.
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And then we're all supposed to drive electric cars
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that are built in China or Mexico or India
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or South Korea.
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And then you were supposed to charge those cars up
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with wind farm electricity.
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And then in all the numbers, it doesn't even give you 10% of what you need.
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Put windmills up everywhere, it wouldn't do it.
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So again, they wanna get rid of cars. They wanna get rid of private cars. They want a
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post-industrial world. They wanna get rid of your gas range stove and everything else.
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That's the UN global treaty, Agenda 2030.
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And, but they don't just say, "Oh, we're gonna take your cars." I mean, th- they admit that in the fine print
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and, you know, banning all
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fossil fuel powered cars
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by 2030. And those orders have been signed, the sale of them.
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And then countries that are further along, like Germany, are saying, "Oh,
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soon we'll ban you even owning one."
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And, and banning the sale of RVs. Seven states passed that last year.
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BlackRock lobbied for it. They don't want you and their gouging real estate and
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inflation to actually be able to survive and, and live in a mobile home.
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Pretty good living, actually. Things are pretty nice. And you can, you know, move
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around and stay different places and see people and... Oh, nope, sorry. You can't have that. It's, it's bad.
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It's about destroying your lifestyle, killing your mobility, and locking you down in a 15-minute city.
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So including in his, uh, in, in his e- executive actions, uh, Trump withdrew the US from the
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Paris Accords, which he did in his first term too, a move that was reversed by Biden when he got into office.
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Pretty much the entire world is on board with these climate accords, partially because they aren't very
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strict. It sets goals and ambitions, but there's no
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mechanism to enforce anything. So it's actually kind of a, "It's the least we can do" situation.
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If you're a climate change denier, it's actually
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probably in your best interest for the Paris Accords to be in place, because
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governments and corporate interests can point to it and say,
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"We're doing the best we can," in response to activists pushing for tighter and more serious climate
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action. Alex doesn't know anything
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about the subject and is just kinda saying whatever comes into his mind. For instance, this thing
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about RVs being banned in seven states is just made up.
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Claiming that BlackRock wants to ban
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RVs is, uh, something he's crafted out of various memes he's seen and dumb thoughts he's
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had and, you know, a way to create a fun story about, uh, you know, BlackRock wants you to
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not be able to afford your mortgage, so they also don't want you to have RVs.
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Yeah.
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But because this is fun, Airstream is probably
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one of the biggest RV manufacturing companies in the United States.
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That company is owned by Thor Industries Incorporated, which owns other RV manufacturers as well.
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And, uh, their number two institutional holder of stock is Vanguard, followed up by
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th- number three, BlackRock. Very sneaky of them to so heavily invest, uh,
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in a company that makes this product that they're trying to ban. But that's just how BlackRock operates.
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Yeah, they're-
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They're crafty.
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They're smarter than all of us put together.
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Yeah.
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Obviously.
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Mm-hmm.
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They're, they're playing seven-dimensional backwards chess.
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Right.
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Which you c- I like the idea of... Because it's a lot easier to be like, "Oh, BlackRock wants to ban RVs."
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Because then you, you create a fictional, like, building.
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Mm-hmm.
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You don't go like, "Oh, there was a meeting
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where six billionaires got into a room and some dude had a PowerPoint presentation that was like,
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'Aha, fellas. Here's how we do it. No more RVs.' And they all stood up and applauded.'"
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Mm-hmm.
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Because that sounds fucking ridiculous.
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It does.
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You would have to be an idiot to believe that something like that would happen.
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But if you say, "Oh, BlackRock wants to ban RVs," well, that, oh, maybe they do. BlackRock's crazy.
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I think Alex just saw a meme.
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Ah, that would make sense.
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That's all that's behind this.
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Yeah.
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I have some great news.
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Lord Monkton is still alive.
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Good news.
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72 years young.
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Good news.
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Birthday coming up.
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Well, let's, uh...
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Should we celebrate his birthday?
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I think we should.
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(laughs)
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I don't know if anybody else will. The other lords don't seem to like him as much.
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He's a lord. He's not really a lord.
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Hm.
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But he is a monk. Uh, so I was scrolling through his Wikipedia page.
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Sure.
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And I don't actually know if this is true
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(laughs) , but I hope it is. Uh, he has, uh, like some books that he's published.
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Okay.
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Right? So one of them is Anglican Orders: Null and Void, question mark?
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And then the AIDS Report, which probably isn't good. And then a bunch of Sudoku books.
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He may have published a series of Sudoku puzzles.
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Why can't people focus on what they're good at?
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Yeah.
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You know what? Get rid of this, uh... Hey, buddy, you don't know shit about AIDS.
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If you know Sudoku, you've got a job.
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I don't-
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You've got a place in society.
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You'd be the Will Shorts of Sudoku.
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Absolutely.
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I-
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You've got a niche, man.
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I don't, I don't, I don't know if that's true. I didn't look into it. I just saw it on Wikipedia, so-
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Oh, well.
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Don't, don't hold me to that. But, uh, maybe he's a Sudoku guy.
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Hey, I... Monk Sudokuton.
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Happy birthday coming up, Lord Monkton.
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Best of luck to ya.
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So, um, Alex, he, he's talking about the, the Paris Accords and stuff.
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Sure.
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And obviously, he just wants, he just wants us to get that coal going. Wants that coal.
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Really?
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Wants it everywhere.
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Hmm.
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Beautiful, beautiful coal.
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Why?
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'Cause it's clean.
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No.
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Trump's orders, US withdrawal from Paris Climate revokes Biden climate actions.
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And there were a whole bunch of those, as you know.
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But I, I'm hearing from a lot of Republicans, "Okay, we won't close the remaining coal
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power plants now."... turn them back on.
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Trump's plan, if he can do it, is to cut energy prices by 50% within one year of being in office.
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You don't just drill, baby, drill, to do that.
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Yeah, that will cut the cost of-
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You dig, baby, dig.
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... fuel in your gas tank.
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But you need coal to drive down electricity prices
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to make us competitive with Mexico
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and with China and others. And you go down to the Mexican-Texas border
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and you fly around in a helicopter like we've done showing the illegal alien UN
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migrant bases. And you look off a few miles over the border
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and you just see coal plants everywhere in factories.
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And you see the brown smog because they don't run scrubbers in Mexico.
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They got a
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turbine
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that
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turns in boiled water,
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hydroelectric, (coughs) and
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they just dump black smoke into the air that is very bad
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when you're burning dirty coal. The US has the largest deposits in the
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world of clean-burning coal and enough to run for over a thousand years
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at current rates. It's estimated if you burn the dirty coal, 10,000. The world,
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the world, the world.
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Will be melted
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underneath a cloud of-
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For 10,000 years at current rates.
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And all you gotta do is put scrubbers on there and nothing dirty comes out.
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A- and I know I harp on this a lot. It's just, (clears throat) coal is not a sexy thing.
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And so,
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you know, I hear leftists all the time, "Oh, I got an electric car 'cause it doesn't, you know, use carbon."
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Yes, it does.
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So Trump is withdrawing from the Paris Agreement again, reversing US climate policy.
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Cli- uh, coal is not a sexy thing.
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(smacks lips) I agree.
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Alex has no idea what he's talking about and I think it shows in clips like that.
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Yeah.
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Like where he's having to just say words and (inhales through teeth) huh.
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It's, it's a, it's a turbine, hydro-electric. What? What are you talking about?
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Scrubbers.
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Scrubbers!
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So scrubbers in coal power plants, uh, are there to remove
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things from the gases that are emitted when you burn the coal. And
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in terms of, like, sulfur dioxide, they do a pretty good job of that.
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You can't get those emissions down to
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nothing, but you can cut them pretty far
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down. And most of them work by spraying, uh, something like limestone
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slurry into the area where the gas is emitted, where the calcium in the limestone reacts with the
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sulfur dioxide to combine into a neutral substance.
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Fun.
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This naturally creates this new issue of sludge removal. But leaving aside all kinds of the
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into the weeds kind of discussion, these scrubbers do cut down on sulfur dioxide emissions.
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Sulfur dioxide is one of the flue gases that are released during the
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carbon-burning process. And this strategy
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is all right for that, but the issue is that there's
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a ton of gases that get put out. And this technique works differently with each of them. CO2 is
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much more complicated to scrub, and the methods we have now are pretty
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expensive. And you're left with all these
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byproducts, and the process requires a bit of fuel to carry out, so it's kind of circular in a lot of ways.
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Alex just pretends that a scrubber is a complete
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solution to the problems that coal-fired
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plants present, and it's just junior high-level understanding of the subject that he's covering.
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I've made jokes before about him, like, I think he thinks that they're just washing the coal-
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I 100%, I 100% do.
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And it, it, he's not convincing me that he has a
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deeper understanding when he talks about these subjects.
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I, I believe when he thinks about the scrubbers, he sees a cartoon, uh, uh, like,
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conveyor belt with chunks of black coal
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and mechanical arms with, with scrubber brushes scrubbing it off. And then as it goes by, it is white coal.
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Well-
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I swear to God, I believe he believes that.
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I believe it too, but I believe it's slightly different. The image is different in my mind.
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Okay.
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And it's the same thing, except instead of arms coming down-
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Yeah.
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... the conveyor belt stops and it's Alex sitting in a bathtub with a little rubber duck-
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Okay.
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... in there. And he takes the coal and he scrub-a-dub-dubs.
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Yes, it, scrubs it up... Okay, I can see that.
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And then it gets all, back on the, yeah.
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I'm, I'm more in the Tex Avery cartoon world-
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(laughs)
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... of, uh, mechanical hands with, uh, white gloves on them. No, no.
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Sure, sure. Well, it's one of the two. It's in his head.
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It's gotta be.
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So we got another executive order.
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Sure.
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Uh, Trump got out of the World Health Organization.
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Sure.
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Woo!
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Good.
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And then you've got this. Trump orders US exit from the World Health Organization.
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Points out they have inappropriate political influence
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here in the United States, that they, um,
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fairly, the majority of the money's paid by the United States. And I wish he would've gone
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further. I mean, it's the criminal group
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involved with the globalists cooking up the viruses and
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pushing the world government and... Boy, I'll tell you, Bill Gates is not a happy camper right now.
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Trump declares US will withdraw from the World Health Organization.
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Trump wants to pull the US out of the World Health Organization again.
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Here's what may happen.
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(coughs) And now they're talking about,
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well, maybe this won't actually get done 'cause, you know, he did it his first four years in.
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And look at this article. Meet the world's most powerful doctor, Bill Gates.
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Remember that? 2017.
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Little catch though, he's not a doctor.
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He's a eugenicist.
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So Alex has clearly identified the irony
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that the writer was using in that headline. Bill Gates is not a doctor.
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Yeah.
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So it's ironic to say that he's the world's most powerful doctor.
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Yep.
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Proud of Alex reading at a sixth grade level.
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Yeah.
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It's re- worth, worth applause.
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Little, it's a little wordplay, little turn of phrase-
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Sure.
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... to kinda get to... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's quite good.
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Yeah, maybe fifth grade.
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Yep.
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On the subject of Bill Gates, just before the inauguration, he went around making nice with Trump.
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He told the Wall Street Journal about a dinner he had with Trump, saying, quote, "I
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was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues
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I brought up." He does a lot of philanthropic work and there's large
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upside to a lot of that stuff, and, and some criticisms too. But, uh, he's
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still a part of the mega rich class, and his behaviors will
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generally tend to follow that. (laughs) So I don't know.
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I, uh,
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th- z- What does it feel... I wanna know what it feels like from his perspective.
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Bill Gates?
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Uh, yeah. To be in a room with Trump, and then to leave that room and to have other human beings
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look at him in the face with his eyes.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then for him to go like, "I was impressed with him."
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Well, here, let me read that quote to you again, actually.
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Sure, sure.
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"I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues I brought up."
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Sure.
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That is almost like saying, "I was impressed that he registered, uh-"
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Right. I could see his eyes w- and his mouth was moving,
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but when it, when I was talking his mouth wasn't moving.
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Yeah.
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So that's how I know he was interested.
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I, I was surprised with his, um,
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ability or willingness to, uh, accept that I said things. (laughs)
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Sure. No. I mean, again, that, uh, but see, that's-
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It's a low bar.
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That's even dumber. That's even dumber for him. That, how could you
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f- how would, does that make you feel from the inside looking out?
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Pretty empty. Pretty empty probably.
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Like, it's pretty fucking stupid. Like,
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his whole idea is, "I'm gonna have a legacy that,
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where I saved people's lives despite
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being a billionaire and murdering everybody and doing all this horrible shit." Instead,
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he's gotta look people in the face and say shit like this.
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Yeah, here's-
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That's brutal.
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Here's me being very nice to the person who's going-
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No.
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... to work to dismantle a lot of the, uh-
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Yeah.
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... work that I've done.
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Yep.
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These diseases that were very well, uh, era- you know, eradicated or close to eradicated-
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Sure.
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... through global coordinated effort-
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Coming back, baby.
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... uh, would not be surprised.
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Yep.
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So getting out of the World Health Organization is just
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stupid, and it's likely going to lead to increased difficulty handling all kinds of public health issues.
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It seems like if the complaint is that the group is too political, you'd want to
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stay in it so you can exert your own political will in that arena.
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The WHO is gonna continue to exist with or without the United States, and now
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Trump has just removed us from the body where collaborative decisions happen.
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It seems like shooting yourself in the
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foot so you don't have to spend money on global health issues that affect everyone. But oh well,
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whatever.
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Whatever.
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So we got another, uh, uh, executive order that Alex touches on.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, there's a lot of them.
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Yeah.
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Um, Trump-
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... signed another order:
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no more showing up to work.
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One day a month, if you're going to collect a paycheck
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from the government, you actually have to show up to work.
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President Trump signs an order mandating federal workers show up in person to work.
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This is just a no-
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Uh-
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... remote-
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I've seen different numbers, but on average, federal workers show up about two or three days a month, and
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they say they work from home and they have these devices for the name of it.
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They say they work from home.
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They're, they're best sellers. Millions of them are, you know,
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sold on Amazon a year alone. And it just moves your mouse.
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So it's a little device that's plugged in that you put your mouse on, and then it just moves the mouse
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periodically around the table, and that's because a lot of these companies and the feds
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will monitor work-at-home people to make sure they're working,
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and then they've just got it plugged into one of those devices. And, I mean, I gotta tell you,
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they, they designed the COVID lockdowns to train you for carbon lockdowns, to train you to work from
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home. They admit that. That's one of the big initiatives of Bill Gates and the UN.
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And
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the work ethic never came back like it was after that, and that's been seen systemically.
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Through Alex, for sure.
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Oh, yeah.
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(laughs)
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't think his work ethic is it.
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No.
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So, if I understand this correctly-
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Yeah.
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... uh, this machine is a top seller-
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Yeah.
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... that makes your mouse move around a little bit-
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Yeah.
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... uh, because
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that is how you get around, uh, b- like, you work from home but you're not really doing any work.
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Right.
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You're just tricking them because your mouse moves around.
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Right.
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Now, if I'm to understand this, what a mouse
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moving around would do is make it so you don't go into, like, screensaver.
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Yeah, your cursor would move around a little bit.
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Right. But it's, what does that do other than
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make it so you don't go into screensaver?
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I mean, I imagine if they have any sort of key tracking software installed on there...
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You'd see that they're not hitting any buttons.
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They're not hitting any buttons.
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Right.
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Which would be a pretty crucial aspect of the work part.
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Oh, also, if there's something that you ho- you do-
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Yeah.
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... you wouldn't be doing that thing.
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No, you wouldn't have-
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And so, like, I-I mean, when I worked at Groupon-
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Yeah.
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... maybe I shouldn't say this, but I, uh, did work from home sometimes.
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Sure.
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And I would work less.
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I would.
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Sure.
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But
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there are still things that I needed to do.
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Right.
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You know? And if those things didn't get done, someone would notice.
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Right.
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So,
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I- I think that these federal employees, some of them probably have things they need to
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do that would be noticed. You can't just,
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the gov- the government is not just checking in on whether or not your mouse moves.
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Right. Right, right, right. No, there's a whole, there's a whole job you have to do.
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Yeah.
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You do your job.
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And if it's a screensaver thing, you could
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just change the settings on your computer to not go to screensaver.
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Yeah.
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So you don't even need to move your mouse.
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Yeah, the, like, everything that needs to get done
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if you work from home will get done. The reason that they want
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you in the office is to exert more control over you.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and to put the pressure of you might get fired on you all the time.
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Yeah.
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And to get you n-
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And to keep you in your place.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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Yeah. And, uh, that's bullshit (laughs) .
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If you want to, it, like, nobody would be like, "Oh, being in a co- cubicle
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makes me feel like a normal human being as opposed to being in my home." Yeah.
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Let me actually clarify that on the Groupon thing.
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Sure.
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I did as much actual work. You know, like-
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Yeah.
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... the number of deals and stuff that I got pushed through were the same as if I had been at the office.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh, but I worked less.
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Yeah.
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Because I wasn't doing all of the extraneous other bullshit-
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Yep.
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... that, uh, comes along with working in an office.
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You bet.
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Um,
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but, like, I don't know. This is just a sad thing for Alex to be s- excited about.
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I, I, I don't, I can't imagine anybody
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on the side of the worker who's like, "Man, they really should force you to go into the
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office whenever it is exactly as the same."
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Especially, also, someone like Alex who's so big on family values.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of times people being able to work remotely
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has a huge impact on their ability to spend more time with their family.
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Yep.
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Um...
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Or just to afford childcare, period.
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Absolutely.
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They don't have to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is something that is actually
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directly counter to what Alex pretends-
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Yep.
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... his beliefs are.
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Yep.
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Uh, but he talks a little bit more about how these people are, they're all-
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All these lazy people.
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They're, they're just screwing around.
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Working one day a month, Ted.
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Yeah. Ugh.
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And we're going to have to cut some things on average, and we're gonna have to work harder,
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or we're gonna go completely belly up.
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And that's the plan.
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And so for most people and most jobs
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there's a lotta screwing around going on,
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and people just try to figure out a way to act like they're working. I mean, the, the examples are out there
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where you have government construction crews will take 20 years to build something
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when a private company can do it in 2. And that's, and, and, and in Texas
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they really privatized most of it now, and they can build stuff
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way quicker than when it was the Texas Highway Department doing it. And it's just like NASA couldn't
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even build a Saturn rocket anymore. That's a Wernher von Braun design from the '60s that they put up.
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And then here comes Elon and it, it just, more space
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exploration, acceleration, innovation
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in a decade than all other space exploration before,
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government or private, because he sets aggressive goals.
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And that's how you get stuff done.
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Things either happen really quick
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or they don't happen at all.
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So two things really quick. One, if Alex's whole point here is to be
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like, "Elon Musk is not at all like a Nazi at all"-
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Sure.
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... I do think it's a little strange for him to be like,
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"He's the only person who could continue Wernher von Braun's legacy."
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There is that.
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That, uh, I would work, I'd work on this.
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I think it's, I mean, it's c- the thoughts are connected-
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Hm.
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... whether or not he intends them to be.
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I'd scrub them a little bit-
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Hmm, maybe.
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... before I release them.
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Get some robot hands in there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then the second thought is, like, he seems to be saying, like, oh, these people just fucking
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screw around. It's too much dicking around at work.
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Isn't it?
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Not like Elon Musk who's l- pretends to be level 100 in Path of Exile-
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Right?
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... and screws around on Twitter all the goddamn time.
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Yeah.
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Like, that guy is probably the, a parody of efficiency.
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I, I mean, I don't even, I don't even know how to, like,
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engage with somebody who is willing to take Elon Musk at his word.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Just like Perry.
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It's kind of funny.
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Yeah. I suppose.
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(laughs) It's a little funny.
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Yeah, I suppose. It is a little funny.
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It's really funny for someone who brands themselves like, "I'm skeptical."
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It's more funny when it's other-
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"I've got discernment."
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It's more funny when it's other rich people who should have known better.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's less funny whenever it's just people.
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Yeah.
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That sucks.
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But Alex is a stupid rich person who should know better.
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Mm-hmm. That's true.
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So (sighs) he gets into just reading off
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all of these executive orders, and play a little bit of this just 'cause it,
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this is the, the level of shit we're dealing with. Like, you don't learn anything from this.
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Yeah.
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Now here is a short list 'cause it's so long.
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Presidential actions Trump signed day one.
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Withdrawing the United States from the World Health Organization.
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Application,
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uh, protecting Americans from foreign adversary-controlled applications, TikTok.
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Granting pardons and commutations for sentences for certain offenses related to the events
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at or near the United States Capitol, January 6th, 2021.
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Putting America first in international environmental agreements.
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Delivering emergency
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price relief for American families and devastated, and defeating the cost of living crisis.
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Hiring freeze, regulatory freeze pending review.
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Return
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to in-person work.
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Ending the weaponization of the federal government.
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Restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship.
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Securing our borders.
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Protecting
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the meaning and value of American citizenship.
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Realigning the United States refugee admissions program.
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Unleashing American energy.
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... in clarifying the military's role in protecting the territorial integrity of the United States.
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America First Trade Policy.
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What does any of that mean?
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I have no idea.
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What do any of those things do? You have no context or information for
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what these executive orders are meant to do.
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No.
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Alex is reading these names-
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Yeah.
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... that many of them could be considered, like, "Oh, that's kind of like the Patriot Act, huh?"
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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"This name kinda sounds good,
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I guess?"
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I can't, I can't imagine taking any name
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at face val- from any of... any government. Any name-
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Elon Musk at face value. Any name at face value.
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At face value. Like, like it... Like, it doesn't matter. And this is a
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non-partisan take. It doesn't matter what it is.
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Sure.
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If it sounds nice, it's pr-... Like, Obama's Drone Strike Program was like Everybody's Gonna Be
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Happy Forever Program. You know? Like, it's-
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Yeah.
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... not a good thing.
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I th- I think a lot of times there are names that are given to things that are a little bit, uh-
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Yeah.
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They hide a little bit of-
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They're there to hide. Yeah.
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Yeah. And I, I think being skeptical about that is probably good. Um,
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Alex is not diving into any of this stuff.
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No. No.
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Some of this he's accidentally already talked about, like the January 6th people and, you know, that... But
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what, what does it... What does any of it mean? What does it mean?
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I, I mean, even just hearing, like, taking care of the cost of living crisis is like, wait, does that mean
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lowering o-... Or does that mean, like,
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making sure it feels nice about itself? Giving it a good day. You know?
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Oh, yeah. Putting-
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Taking, taking the cost of living crisis to a massage parlor.
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Right. Putting America first in environmental policy. What does that mean?
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What does that mean? Burning down our national parks.
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Probably.
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Is that... Wha- What? How is that wh-
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Yeah.
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Well, we're taking care of things.
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So that list goes on longer.
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Of course.
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And, uh, there was one that I just thought, like, it stuck out a little bit.
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Okay.
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Protecting the American people against invasion.
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The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development global tax deal.
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That's going after... The OECD's always calling for higher taxes. Reversing that.
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So Alex has zero idea what this OECD thing, uh, this tax thing is all about.
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Yeah.
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He's happy to let the audience think that it's about the OECD calling for higher taxes, which is a
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bad thing, and it needs to be stopped, and thank God Trump was there.
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Sure.
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But what if I were to tell you that this was actually about an OECD plan for
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global minimum tax, which would only apply to multinational companies
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that take in more than 750 million euros a year?
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Hm.
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What if I were to tell you that this was just about making a rule that such companies would be subject to a
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15% minimum effective tax rate, which has the effect of disincentivizing businesses
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who leave their countries in order to operate, uh, you know, in places that have low or no taxes?
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Sure, sure.
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That certainly sounds different than what Alex would want you to think that this is, and it actually
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sounds like something he should be principally in favor
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of. He hates these multinational corporations that take
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all the money offshore. Having a tax structure like this in place would actually
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seem to help address some of the negative effects of globalization,
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but I guess the tip of the spear isn't interested in this.
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And you know nothing about it, based on Alex's coverage of it. He's just, "Uh, it's
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ba- They wouldn't like higher taxes. Bah."
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Yeah.
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"Bah."
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Yeah, it does feel as though, uh, if you wanted that one to stick,
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you should not have elected the
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owner of a multinational corporation.
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Yeah.
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That seems like... I don't think they would've, like, been like, "Hey, let's keep this guy going."
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But I think the fact that that can happen is the reason why you wouldn't need it to be a global thing, you know?
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Did anybody... Uh, here's a question. Did anybody even bother giving a shit if he pretended to divest from
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Trump Organization? Or is everybody just, like, fucking fine?
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He launched a meme coin.
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Yeah, right? You know what I'm saying?
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(laughs)
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Like, I remember last time people were like, "Oh, he's got a-"
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Yeah, they tried.
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"He's jo- Jared Kushner and blah, blah, blah, whatever."
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There was a lot of talk about emoluments and all that mess.
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Sure, sure, sure. Yeah.
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B- Because in s-
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Nobody gave a shit now, right?
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Well, I mean, I think it would be hard to after last time.
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It'd be a little bit ridiculous. It'd be ridiculous, yeah.
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I, I think the people tried to care, and-
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Yeah.
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... uh, had a good faith effort.
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There they went.
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And it went how it did.
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Best of luck, everybody.
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And now everyone is just like, "Well,
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I guess."
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This is how we do it.
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Yeah.
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This is how we do it now.
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So, uh, Alex, uh, he's, he's, he's like, "Hey, you know what I'd love to cover right now?"
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Yeah.
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Hillary looking mad at the inauguration.
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At that... (laughs) Honestly, so would I.
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Yeah, that'd be great.
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That'd be more fun. That's more fun.
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We ought to go back, because I've got so much here.
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We ought to go back and just get footage from yesterday
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during the swearing in and, and during the ceremony, and I mean, you look at the faces of Obama and Hillary
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and Bill Clinton.
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And
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Hillary looks like she's been taxidermied,
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Obama looks like he's crapping his pants, but Bill Clinton,
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who's looked like a corpse for years and still looks like he's starring in Day of the Dead,
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but animated-wise was laughing and smiling and turning red and get- and getting off on it.
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'Cause see, Bill Clinton deep down-
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Famous for it, getting off.
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Likes to screw underage girls. But you know, 15, 16's still
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bad, but I me-... He's not, like, you know, you know, a baby-
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I'm sorry?
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... ******* from what we know. Like, certain people
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that think they're the world's doctor
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who reportedly likes to screw babies,
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makes him feel powerful. He's a selfish piece of crap, a demon.
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Bill Clinton's evil as hell.
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Sure.
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But man, he likes power, and
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you can't not look at Trump and be fascinated by it. I mean, that guy's a fricking
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dynamo of engine power. I mean, that... He is a workhorse. He is a titan.
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Game recognize game.
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Wow.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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I don't know. I can't do a Bill Clinton impression, but-
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We were both on the... We were both on the jet together. Why would I be
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mad? I'm Bill Clinton. I'm here to have a good time.
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Bill Clinton is sitting there. He's like, "I love power so much that I gotta give it up to this Trump guy."
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(sighs)
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"He's exerting power in such a way that
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it really hits my fundamental interests.
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Now Hillary and Obama, they're not the same way. Wait, I thought they were."
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(laughs)
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"I thought they were all super in- interested in, uh, power."
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I, I do, I do feel like I... Actually, I appreciate this. I appreciate finding out about this, because that
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fits. That fits with my understanding of the world and of those people.
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That is totally appropriate. Bill Clinton should be yucking it up and having a grand time.
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Well, fine, but I think that this fits my view of the world more, and that is that
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Alex just imagines things when he sees stuff.
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Sure, that's true.
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Maybe Bill Clinton, uh, before the camera went to him, was, uh, coughing on a piece of popcorn that he was-
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Could be.
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... eating at the inauguration.
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Turned red.
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So his face was all red.
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Could be.
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And Alex has turned this into a... He, he just loves it.
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Man.
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He sees Trump. He's so s-... Trump's so strong. (laughs)
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Man, that is... It is weird. I, I feel like if I was the Obamas, I would, uh,
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not go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, probably.
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Yep.
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I would have done that too.
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Yep.
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So, uh, Alex has someone who is going, on the show.
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Sure.
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Someone who's a guest, someone who was a guest.
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Yeah.
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Someone who hangs out with another guy who is called Based Stickman.
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Great.
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Uh, that is Enrique Tarrio.
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Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool.
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All right. Um, former leader, I guess current leader, of the Proud Boys, political prisoner,
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former J6 hostage,
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released from prison last night.
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And that's a whole nother subject.
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Enrique Tarrio is joining us.
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Uh, I talked to their lawyer,
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who's also been my lawyer on some things
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concerning J6, Norm Pattis.
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He was calling me last night, 6:00 AM this morning, and he's talking to all of them.
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Norm, was your lawyer on more than just J6, buddy?
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Yeah.
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Uh, very, very cool, you sharing lawyers with, uh, these guys. That's not suspicious or shady,
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uh, especially considering that it's Norm.
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Great.
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Uh, but yeah, so he's gonna have Enrique Tarrio on, and I thought that was
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predictable-
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Yeah.
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... and kinda funny.
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Hm.
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Uh, but more funny was that I hadn't thought a lo-
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uh, about for a while the fact that he used to hang out with people
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who jumped you into a gang until you named cereals.
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Yes, that's true.
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And he had a friend who was named Base Stickman because he hit people with sticks.
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Yep.
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And a guy named Rufio Pan Man because he hit people with pans.
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He hit people with pans, yep.
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(laughs) "These guys were so stoked-
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Wow, how far we've come. How far we've come.
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And their, uh, their gang is named after that song from Aladdin, Be Proud of Your Boy.
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We have, we have come a long way from the Proud Boys.
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Yep.
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Oof.
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And it's all folding back on in, uh, on itself.
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It, yep.
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So Alex has the same lawyer as these, uh, these Proud Boys.
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Sure.
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But he's also just, like, really good friends with him.
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And for the next 30 minutes, Enrique Tarrio is very gracious to give us his first big interview.
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TarrioFamilyFund.org, @NOBEL_1,
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and he's a really personable guy, a friend of mine, um, been here to Austin many times,
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been around the country with him, great Trump rallies in DC.
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Totally set up, for the people that don't
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know, most people do, and Trump did the right thing. Total, complete,
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unconditional across the board. Stewart Rhodes, Joe Biggs,
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all friends of mine as well.
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You're too close to this story, buddy.
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You were there on January 6th, you're friends with all of these people who committed
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seditious conspiracy (laughs) and were convicted, um, you have the same lawyer, um...
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Yep.
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This is, uh, real close.
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It feels like if Pablo Escobar was interviewing all of the people who ever worked for him.
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Seems like-
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And they're like, "Hey, everybody got fr-... We got out free! It's
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crazy that we all have the same lawyer, isn't it? It's crazy."
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What a coincidence.
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What a weird thing that I paid for the same lawyer as everybody else.
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Yeah, and it speaks to Norm's quality.
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He's a good guy.
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Great.
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Praised a lot in the court.
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So Tarrio, uh, he, he has, uh, this to say
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about... And, and I think he stops just short at the end of this clip of saying, uh, "I owe Trump my life."
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Mm.
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Which I think is kind of what he's saying.
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Mm.
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Uh, but, uh, Mr. Tarrio, it is wonderful, uh, to have you free,
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my friend, uh, what would you like to say to the world first?
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My friends, Alex, uh, I am gonna tell you that I am honored to
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give my first interview to you and InfoWars. Uh, I love you guys, I love you guys for fighting for what's
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right, and, uh, I'm, I'm happy to be out, and just like you said, I'm still
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shell-shocked, I'm still processing,
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um,
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I'm still processing my freedom. So
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with that, like, I tell you, I thank you, I thank you for everything that you've done
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and, uh, I'm happy. I'm happy that, uh,
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my guys are out, I'm happy the other J6ers are out, I'm happy we got pardoned, and I'm extremely happy
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with the 45th and 47th President of these United States,
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with Donald J. Trump.
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Promises made, promises kept, every time I had no doubt, uh,
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that he was gonna win, I had no doubt he was gonna release us.
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And he didn't release us 'cause we were buddy-buddy, he released us 'cause it was the right thing to do, Alex.
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Did he-
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And that I am eternally thankful for. He gave me my life back. Literally my life
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is,
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is back.
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When he says, "Literally my life is back," it kinda felt like he was gonna say, "My life is his."
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Yeah, yeah.
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Now, the, the issue that I have is, I, I get that the, the games that everyone's gonna play, uh,
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with these folks, like Alex and all of them, they're gonna,
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you know, sort of re-solidify their narrative that these guys were innocent...
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Sure.
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... and they were all set up...
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Sure.
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... and all this, and...
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Sure, sure, sure.
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... you know, ra-epps, blah, blah, blah.
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Yep.
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But they know what they did.
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Like, Enrique Tarrio knows what he did.
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Yeah.
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Stewart Rhodes knows what he did. They know what their intentions were.
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Yep.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So they have to be getting out of prison
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and be like, "Trump wanted us to do this."
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Yeah.
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"He has clearly indicated that he will get our back."
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Yeah.
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Why would you ever not do exactly the thing you were doing
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and more? Why wouldn't you have an expectation that, like, "We're Trump's, uh, mafia, we're Trump's guys"?
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Yeah.
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Like (laughs) I, I...
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I just...
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... want a man...
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I just love remembering that the, a lot of the impeachment trial
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hinged on, like,
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"He didn't... Uh,
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th- they didn't tell him to do it, he didn't direct them to do anything, he's not even related..." You know,
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and it's like, if you pardon them immediately, that should be retroactive, you know?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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You should, we should now be able to be like, "Okay, you
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were impeached (laughs) and removed from office in 2017."
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Yeah.
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"Now that's gone."
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Yeah.
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It... Like, you, if... Okay, if they can take away Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy-
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Mm-hmm.
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... all right, we should be able to take
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away the presidency. That's my, that's the way I
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should go. And that means that we remove all the things that he did.
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Mm.
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Go all the way back to the beginning.
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I, I...
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Cancel him out.
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(sighs) Uh, I don't know how you'd do it, but it sounds all right to me.
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Mm.
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I, I just, I, I can't, I can't imagine how, uh, you can't look at this and be like, "Yeah, you guys all know.
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You, you know, and you're gonna behave
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b- based on what you know, not based on what you're pretending to believe in public."
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Yeah.
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This is real fucked up. I think that there is a PR and whatever
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kind of thing that Trump could have done when he came into office
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with, like, "Yeah, the guy who shit on
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Nancy Pelosi's desk, you're pardoned. The guy who stole the lectern, you're pardoned."
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Sure.
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You know, like, this, all this stuff, you know, could be like, "Well, hey, you're not,
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you're not gonna learn anything from going to prison and you're not really a danger to society.
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I'm going to give a blanket pardon to all of these people."
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Sure.
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But
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still keep Enrique Tarrio, Stewart Rhodes, the Proud
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Boys, Oath Keepers, those people do, should not have gotten pardons.
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Because exactly what you're saying is too obvious
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through that action.
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Well, I mean, but those are the people he wants to pardon.
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Right.
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He doesn't want to pardon the people who are peaceful.
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Right.
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That would be stupid.
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That's the tension.
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Yeah, no, it makes sense. I w- I, honestly, like, the
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only people that I can see it being a purely rational choice
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to be like, "I hope Trump becomes president," that's those guys.
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Yeah.
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Right? That's their... Yeah, absolutely.
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And, and people who stand to gain a lot off scams and-
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Sure, sure, sure.
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... shit like that.
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Uh, yeah, I don't, I don't blame them for being stoked.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Not at all.
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No.
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Not at all. And they know where their bread is buttered, and they know that they have
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the president and the government's blessing to go beat up people at liberal protests and stuff.
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Yep, yep.
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(laughs) So, cool.
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I wouldn't protest.
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So, uh, Tarrio talks about getting out of jail.
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Sure.
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He tells the experience.
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What was it like when you finally heard you were pardoned?
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Well, um, they actually pulled me out of my cell at 4:00
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yesterday, Central Standard Time, and they told me, "That's it, pack your stuff, you're leaving."
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Uh, they put me in a holding cell, and, uh, right when they were about to release me,
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uh, they told me, "Wait, we have to wait because the verbiage on the pardon
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might exclude you." Because, uh, the way that the
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pardon was written, it was for people who were at the Capitol.
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Um, so since I wasn't at the Capitol that day, I wasn't even in the District that day,
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uh, the warden just wanted to make sure that, uh, my name was on the list.
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So they put me back in my, uh, to my unit, uh, where I sat and I waited,
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um, up until this morning, um,
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but I was jubilant the entire time. I was jubilant before that-
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And did you notice when Trump actually put out the list, he put your name at the top?
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Yes, I did, I did see that. I did see that, and I'm thankful for it.
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Again, we have the best president, uh, I think since George Washington occupying the White House.
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Oh, there's no, there's no doubt. I'm, there, this is the real deal.
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Oh yeah, so the street gang leader, uh,
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is the first name on the list that... I can see how they might take that as a message too.
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I definitely do.
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(laughs) It's...
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I, it... Hey, whether they read it or not, buddy, loud and clear to me.
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And I can tell you, of the names on that, neither Enrique nor Tarrio would be first in terms of alphabetical.
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Nope. No, sir.
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Pardon Jay Johnson, that's fine.
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Sure.
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Keep these shitheads in prison.
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Yeah.
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I don't know. So, uh, I- I think that there's something interesting in the way that this story is told-
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Mm-hmm.
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... because Tarrio wasn't there.
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Right.
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You know, he had already been arrested-
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Sure.
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... because he, uh, burned a Black Lives Matter banner-
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Yeah.
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... that he stole from a church.
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'Cause of the other crime scene, he does.
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And then he got caught with, uh, weapons-
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Right.
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... uh, in DC.
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He did the crimes.
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Yeah, so he was already, uh, in, in custody. And so
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it does make sense that they would be like, "Hold on a second.
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We just gotta get this technicality worked out. Maybe this doesn't formally apply to you."
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Sure.
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And then it took a little while, couple of hours, and then he was released.
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Yeah.
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Alex, I feel like he's deeply invested in trying to push the narrative that they tried to keep Tarrio in jail-
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Yeah.
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... even though there was the, the pardon. And so he rephrases this multiple times.
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It wa- I can't tell you it was hard. These past 24 hours have been hard on me because I had faith.
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Um,
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it was a good time, Alex, a good day, a good day to be an American.
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Uh, but it is absolutely very newsworthy, though. That... 'Cause I remember reading that
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and I thought about you when I saw the, the order come out. And I, I remember thinking about
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you 'cause you weren't even in the state.
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Mm-hmm.
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And
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it,
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it said right there, "Anyone in or around the Capitol on J6."
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Mm-hmm.
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So, so, so describe what it was like for people, again, 'cause you got cut off by the break.
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You're... The- they, they take you out, say you're leaving
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and they put you in a holding cell. They come back and say, "Oh, sorry.
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We're not sure (laughs) you're gonna be released now."
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Yeah.
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I mean, describe that.
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Yeah. They said, uh, "We're not sure
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because of how the pardon... So we just gotta make sure with the administration,
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so it might take a couple hours." Uh, they were actually really nice, Alex.
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This isn't working out the way Alex wants it to. He's trying to create some kind of a nefarious plot here, but
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Tarrio is like, "No, everyone's pretty cool. This is-"
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"They're really nice."
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"Yeah."
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"That makes sense."
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"It's a little speed bump that happened based on wording
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and everyone wanting to make sure that all, everything was checked off the list."
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Yeah.
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And, and Alex, he... This is not the only time he does this. There's multiple
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times where he's really trying to like, "Come on. Work with me on this."
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it's just not going anywhere.
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Eh.
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So Tarrio, uh, is a, he's a, he was the head of the Proud Boys.
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Sure.
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Serial king himself.
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Yep.
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Uh, the master of, uh-
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Lucky Charms.
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... spoons.
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All right.
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Um, and so, you know, there were, they were a, they were a gang of, uh, guys who liked to
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fight on streets and stuff, you know? They like to, uh, yell things at Antifa and what have you.
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It was their vibe.
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Um, and so Alex, he's like, "Uh, you're just in prison. I gotta debrief you
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on what's going on with the street-level stuff right now."
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Oh, buddy. We have, we have the internet, bud.
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So, uh, Alex, uh, gives him a little rundown.
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They've pre-programmed. You've been in prison, you probably missed it
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'cause I know there's, like, you know, one TV when you're able to get out a few hours and see.
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But they have been saying, "Trump's gonna kill the migrants.
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Terrorists are gonna hit them. Uh, Tom
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Homan's gonna murder them." They got all these mayors saying they're gonna resist the
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illegal, lawful, Constitutional federal operation. Uh, and
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they're planning, I believe, to false-flag a migrant protest. And I'm told, and I know,
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I know the
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borders are s- smart, so
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he already said yesterday they were planning to set them up on their
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raids in Chicago. Somebody leaked it, so they had to pull
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back for now, and that's good. They need to be very careful
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because all they need to do is, is these big demonstrations are, are, are
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a trap to get ICE to go after them there.
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And then somebody's gonna open up with a gun or truck-bomb the migrants and
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blame a Trump supporter. I'm telling you-
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Mm-hmm.
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... they have pre-programmed that. They've
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had all the Democrat people on TV, Carville, Raskin, all of them, "Oh, Trump's coming to kill the, the, the
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migrants. He's coming to kill the Black people. Oh, uh, they're gonna
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murder us en masse, and when they do, we're gonna have an armed uprising." They're
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planning to try to trigger a race war. Uh, they're, they're planning to, to, to
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burn down the cities much worse than 2020.
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What is your view on my concern and prediction?
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I think your concern has... It is extremely legitimate and I think, uh, we need to be... Stay vigilant.
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So, like, Enrique Tarrio is the head of a gang, right? I mean, like,
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they're... What is Alex telling him to do?
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Stay away from those protests.
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I would think so. I guess that's probably
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what he is, he's... And if that's the case, then I guess that's probably positive?
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Yeah.
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"Hey, Proud Boys, don't get, uh, don't get it mixed up in this shit."
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I guess... (laughs) I guess whatever gets us
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to the Proud Boys not being there-
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Yeah.
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... works for me.
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Proud Boys, stay home.
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I don't-
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Don't stand back and stand by.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't like, I don't like how it's being phrased.
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No.
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But you know what? If it keeps them away, that's fine.
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'Cause there's a part of me that thinks that Alex is actually trying to be
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like, "We need this actually to happen."
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Right.
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And they're, uh, they aren't going to do false flags-
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Right.
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... 'cause that's nonsense and of Alex's imagination. We need these conflicts to actually happen-
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Sure.
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... to give Trump an excuse to crack down-
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Right.
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... far more harshly on our, our, our enemies.
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Right, we won't be able to do what Carville and Raskin say
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unless we do this. (laughs)
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Yeah, so there's almost a part of me that feels-
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Yeah.
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... like what he's actually telling Tarrio to do is-
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Yeah.
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... "Be, be sure you go to these protests and cause some trouble."
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Right. Absolutely, 'cause you're there to-
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In order... Because then we'll be able to say that all this shit's a false flag."
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False flag. Yeah, yeah.
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"This is the way that our dance needs to work, buddy."
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"Send, send your most disposable people to these protests and have them cause problems."
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What time is it? I think Joe Biggs is about to get out.
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Crazy. Yep, get on in there, bud.
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So, uh, I, I liked this. Uh, Enrique says something that, uh,
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(laughs) I think Alex should probably take offense at.
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We need to make sure that, you know, we, we, we, we
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cross our T's and dot our I's, um, you know, and not fall for any traps, you know? I really, uh,
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I really think that, that, that, uh, we need to be looking at, uh,
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you know, a lot of these people that rile up crowds, um, and, and, and, uh, and
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really take a look at who they are
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and what's going on. We saw it happen on January 6th. It could happen a million more times.
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Hey, you talking about me?
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I rile up crowds with a bullhorn?
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I mean-
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I was there on January 6th, trying to rile up the crowd.
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I, I-
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You talking about me, asshole? (laughs)
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I don't know, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to... I, I'm, I'm, I'm gasted by flabber.
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If I were Alex, I would be pretty sure he's talking about me.
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Hey, there's only... How... Who calls? Pfft.
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The champion of riling up crowds?
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You're the... You...
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Listen, I guess, I guess
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doublespeak
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wasn't enough.
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Mm-hmm.
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We're all the way at quadruplespeak at this point.
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No, this is singlespeak.
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Lord knows what is being said.
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(laughs)
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I don't even understand what's being said.
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We have to be suspicious of people who rile up crowds.
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Right.
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Alex riles up crowds.
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Well, but, I mean...
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It happened on January 6th. Alex was there with a bullhorn on January 6th, specifically leading crowds
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through the streets of DC to the Capitol and then riling them up.
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Yeah, but now that's what they want again? God, I don't, I don't even know. I don't even understand.
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So they talk a little bit about what needs to happen.
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Sure.
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And one of the big things is we need to arrest, uh, Merrick Garland, uh, for spiteful reasons.
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You know one person they haven't pardoned, Alex? Or maybe I didn't hear about it.
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They haven't pardoned Merrick Garland.
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And, uh, Merrick Garland is, I guess, guilty of the same thing Steve Bannon was.
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And Steve Bannon had to go through three months
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of federal prison.
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I think we should start with that. We should put
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Merrick Garland, at the very least, for 90 days in federal prison
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and give him a taste of his own medicine
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of what he put us through.
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(laughs)
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So I'm calling for the incarceration of Merrick Garland
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for corruption
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and for not following
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the subpoena that the Congress
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legally gave him.
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Well, that's a great point. For those that don't know, Merrick Garland, uh-... put a, a,
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quite a few Trump officials, including Steve Bannon, in prison, uh, for
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contempt of Congress, refusing to testify, even though they were part of the administration. Clear
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executive, uh, immunity, uh, meaning that they do not have to testify on matters, uh, of that,
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uh, because that would violate the separation of powers and allow Congressional witch hunts.
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And so he, though, said, "Well I'm the Attorney General, so I'm allowed to."
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And that's a great point, uh, that, uh,
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that would be a good start, to put Merrick Garland in prison.
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Yeah. So Anna Paulina Luna should put that resolution in front of Congress,
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uh, to, to make a criminal referral to Pam Bondi's,
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uh, Department of Justice, and Pam Bondi should take a look at it and make a decision
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on whether to indict, uh,
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ex-Attorney General Merrick Garland.
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So Alex is full of shit, but let's just imagine that all of that description that he gave is accurate.
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Even if you stipulate all of that, then he shouldn't believe that Garland should be
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prosecuted. He believes that Tr- uh,
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Trump administration officials shouldn't have gotten in trouble for not
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answering a subpoena, and because they
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did, he believes that his side is entitled to do things that he believes to be unconstitutional and
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bad. Hearing him discuss these kinds of dynamics should make it clear to anyone that, uh,
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he, he doesn't care about whether or not something is unconstitutional or bad.
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This is about making an excuse to do shit in retribution that Alex couldn't justify otherwise.
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Mm.
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Because if he believes that Steve Bannon was
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unjustly prosecuted, the answer isn't, unjustly prosecute someone else.
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Mm.
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That's not
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appropriate if your concerns are based in the, uh, appropriate carrying out of the law.
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Yeah.
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Uh, it's either both or none for Alex.
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Right.
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And, uh, he wants one and not the other.
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Eh.
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That's, uh, doesn't fly.
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It's cheating.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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He wants to cheat.
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He wants to cheat, yeah. Well, they all do.
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Well, to be fair, this is a pitch that's being given to us by
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a street gang leader who just got pardoned for trying to overthrow the government.
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Which is, which is something that he should probably be ashamed about. Like, that's what he wants?
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Mm-hmm.
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You're a street gang leader and you want f- the fucking
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br- Congress should refer him for criminal prosecu- I prefer the Secretary of Retribution to this.
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Yeah.
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This is pathetic.
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The Sec- Secretary of Retribution makes sense in its delusion.
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Yeah.
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This is somebody who is-
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What?
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... way outside their lane.
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What are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You should be saying that, uh, if, uh, Merrick Garland can't name eight cereals, you're gonna kick his ass.
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Yeah, we break his knees.
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Yeah.
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That's what you should be saying.
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Yeah.
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We're gonna go break Merrick Garland's knees-
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Yeah.
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... and then the government's gonna be
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like, "That's illegal," and we'll be like, "Is it?" And they'll be like, "You got it."
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Yeah.
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"You scamp, get outta here."
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"Oh no, you've been pardoned."
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Also, I think it's kind of, um,
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a little bit sad,
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just from the, like, "Hey, I run this organization where we go beat people up and we have fun and we drink-
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Yeah.
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... and we talk about cereals, and, and have fun nicknames for each other."
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Yep.
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Um, I think it's really sad when you get pardoned,
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because then it's like, "I have the approval of the state."
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Yeah.
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How transgressive are you?
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Mm.
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How, like, dangerous are you as a street gang? You, you're, you're sanctioned by the police.
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Yeah.
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You're sanctioned by the government. You're, you're, uh, you're, it's, it's pathetic.
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Yeah, the only thing to do is push the
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envelope as far as you possibly can, even if you're sanctioned by the government.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Because now, basically, you have the impression, or you
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should, if you're Enrique Tarrio or Stewart Rhodes-
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Yeah.
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... you should have the impression that basically, you're the military or the cops without the rules.
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Yeah, you're above the law.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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You tried to overthrow the fucking government, and the
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pre- next president just said, "Hey, y'all are cool."
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Yeah, you should be pissed off if you get a parking ticket.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, you'll be like, "Fuck, th- I'm gonna call somebody about this-"
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Yeah.
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"... and I will get it." Yeah.
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There's no reason why that wouldn't be a rational conclusion for you to draw.
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That's what I would do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, we got one last clip here. Alex talking about how the Proud Boys are heroes.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then Tarrio making a big announcement.
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Mm.
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You know, we had the Proud Boys, for people that don't know, founded, because,
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uh, well, it was already founded kinda just to have fun, uh, by, you know, uh, folks-
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Secret serial lovers.
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Yeah.
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... Kevin McInnes, but
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got serious-
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It's fun.
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... when antifa
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in Portland, in Seattle, in other areas, was just going up and beating up
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any type of Christian barbecue, or any type of conservative march-
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I'm sorry?
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Beating up babies, uh, you know, attacking children, women.
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A Christian barbecue?
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And you guys-
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No Christian barbecues.
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... you know, just go out there, and never start it but always finish it.
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It's got the mustard sauce.
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That,
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you know, God tries to hit him with a metal baton, and it's just boom. And the left hated the image of men,
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Black, white, brown, together out defending women and children, heroes.
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Naming cereals.
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And so they called you Nazis, they called you all this other crap.
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Dorks.
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Uh, now they're trying to say Trump's speech-
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Losers.
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... was like Hitler. Elon's like Hitler.
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Nazis.
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Um, so it, it, it's just not gonna work anymore, but
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where do you see the Proud Boys going
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now that they're so trying to demonize, that they tried to say it was a terrorist organization?
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What, what do you see as now the future of Proud Boys, and will you be involved in it?
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Um, I think the future of the club is gonna be what it's always been, um,
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just a group of men
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that love America, get around, and drink beer.
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Um,
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and
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protect Trump supporters from being assaulted.
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We're not gonna, one thing I'll tell you, we're not gonna fall for these honey, honey, honeypots anymore.
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Um, but we will defend ourselves, and we will defend, um,
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Trump supporters, or any American, from being assaulted for their political views.
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Sure.
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As far as my f- future with the organization-
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Or my political views.
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... I'm not going anywhere. Um,
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and
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we, we typically, we, we've made a decision not to talk
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publicly about what our leadership structure is, but I do have a suggestion for the mainstream media.
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They should stop calling me the ex-Proud Boy leader.
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So you just made a statement about the leadership structure.
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Sure.
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Fun.
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Right.
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I know that there's probably legal reasons why you
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wouldn't wanna have, uh, people know too much about the leadership structure of your street gang.
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Sure.
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Uh, but, uh, you just said that you're the leader again.
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I mean-
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Dumbass.
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... unless words don't mean anything-
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Yeah.
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... then that's what you said.
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Yeah. That's cute.
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Yep.
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Um, so-
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Very Nazi-like. (laughs)
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(laughs) So is, uh, I guess, uh, Enrique Tarrio has re-ascended to the throne.
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(sighs)
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And now, this does introduce an interesting kind of pickle.
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Yeah.
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Um, and that is that we could be looking at a situation where, uh,
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Joe Biggs gets out of prison, and he, uh, returns to the sort of second-in-command position-
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Sure.
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... of the Proud Boys.
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Yeah.
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So you have an InfoWars employee who is a second, uh, uh-
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Yeah.
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... in command of a street gang.
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Sure.
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You have Stewart Rhodes coming out.
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Mm.
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And if he comes back in charge of the Oath Keepers, then you have a (laughs) fucking
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right-wing extremist militia that is-
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Yep.
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... headed up by
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someone else who's super close to Alex.
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Sure.
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You got a lot of adjacency here. You got a lot of close ties. And they have the same lawyer. You have a few.
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't worry too much about the lingering court cases, is, uh, how I would feel about it.
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(laughs)
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I wouldn't worry too much. I'd be like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure. InfoWars is a, it owes you money, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, we do. I'm sure we do."
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Yeah.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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This, uh, this Department of Justice might not be as interested in anything.
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Mm.
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Um, so yeah, kind of a bummer, a little bit, I guess, the-
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Mm.
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... having Enrique Tarrio back on the day after.
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But, uh, here we are. Alex is trying to get as much juice out of this as he can.
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Yeah, it wasn't quite the same, uh, political prisoner freeing as, like, uh, Mandela.
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No.
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Not quite that.
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Mm-mm.
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Uh, didn't have the momentum, uh, uh, but, uh, you know?
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Well, you know when Mandela got out, he was like, uh, "We're not gonna fall for these honey traps."
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"We're not gonna fall for these honey traps no more."
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Yeah. (laughs)
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Oh boy. Oh boy. All right.
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So, uh, we'll be back-
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(laughs)
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... with another episode, and there, there are other J6 folks who will be coming up.
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Of course.
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Stewart Rhodes, of course, will be making an appearance in the near future.
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Course. Course.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, shit's just a, just a mess. Just-
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What you gonna do?
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A mess.
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Dark.
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Yep.
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Dark times.
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Anyway, uh, until-
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(laughs)
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... we see some more dark shit, we have a website.
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(laughs) Indeed we do, at zelligfight.com.
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Yep. Uh, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the Mysterious Professor.
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Woo, yeah! Woo! Yeah! Woo!
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And now, here comes the, the sex robots.Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
