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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Blech. I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. Uh, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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Uh, uh, w- this is a podcast where we like to sit around to talk about
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Alex Jones' words with the ultra-slang- oh shit.
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Oh, man, what happened?
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Oh, no.
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We're starting off 1,001.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy, it's... We're all the way back to one.
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Back to one.
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We don't even know what the opening is anymore.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, shit.
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Jordan, what's your dark spot? Oh, no.
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Oh, my dark sp- oh, we've gone into the mirror realm!
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No.
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(laughs)
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Oh, no.
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I'll be hosting the show for the next 1,000 episodes. We decided to do a switch.
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Okay.
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Uh,
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welcome-
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Hi.
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The end. (laughs)
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(laughs) Well, I, I whiffed the intro on this one, but, uh, hi, Jordan.
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I think you're doing great. Hi, Dan.
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Uh, Jordan.
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Uh, Dan?
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(laughs) Yeah.
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I have a quick question for you, my friend.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Um, my bright spot, uh, Jordan, we're still, uh, han- uh, getting these buttons out-
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Sure.
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... folks.
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Yeah.
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Uh, they're coming, people. Uh, and, uh, it's very exciting. A lot of fun, uh, to do, but
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I wanted to take this opportunity to scold
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a certain group of people.
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Scolding a certain group of people?
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Yes.
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All right. Is this country-based?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Well-
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Yeah. Yeah.
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... what are you gonna do?
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I've noticed something.
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Okay. (laughs)
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And I don't, I don't wanna generalize too much-
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Sure.
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... because this certainly doesn't apply to everybody from this country.
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Sure.
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But I have noticed... We have a lot of listeners, like, in Australia.
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Okay.
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And I have noticed a lot of hubris.
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A lot of hubris?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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A lot of people who have sent in addresses from Australia-
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Uh-huh.
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... think that I know what province they're in-
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Ooh.
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... or whatever.
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Of course.
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There's a lot of missing information-
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Of course.
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... that I need to, like, Google to figure out-
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Right.
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... where the fuck am I supposed to send this button.
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Sure.
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Um, and a lot of like, uh, you know, it's confusing 'cause there's like a Victoria in Canada-
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Yep.
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... and in, uh, Australia.
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Yep.
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So like, if someone doesn't write Australia on there-
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Oof.
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... maybe I'm sending an Australia button to Canada.
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That's trouble.
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My point is that-
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Yes.
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... of all the countries of people who have sent in button requests-
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Uh-huh.
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... I would say that Australia
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seems like they are the people who most think
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everyone knows where this is.
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Sure. Sure.
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I don't know that we do.
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There's a very laissez-faire attitude in Australia.
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Sure.
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A f- a f- one, far more self-reliant, I think I would say.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, and that includes, uh, if you're more self-reliant, you're less likely to get post. Let's face it.
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It must be nice to be out there in the middle of the ocean.
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(laughs)
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Must be great.
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Yeah, I would suggest not talking shit about Australia.
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(laughs)
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Uh, at least not for the next year or so. (laughs)
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I, I'm just saying.
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Yeah.
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High incidence-
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Yeah.
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... of missing information.
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I, I think it's a, it's... And also, I would say they are rambunctious people.
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Mm-hmm.
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From my experience, rambunct is what I would describe them as.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I, I obviously don't know how all addresses are formatted.
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(laughs)
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It's a learning thing that I go-
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That's true. Yeah.
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... along the way with.
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Fair.
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I have found that Australians often leave off a piece of information that is critical.
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Whoa.
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And I have a suspicion that the listeners in Japan have given too much information.
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Well-
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Those addresses are long.
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Well, I mean... (laughs)
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(laughs)
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I, I don't, I don't know what-
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I mean, when you hear the I-
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... everything that's being specified.
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... island, island nations have very, uh,
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they, they kind of c- their cultures kind of, uh, uh,
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solidify a lot faster, I think, than more expansive places.
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All right.
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Huh?
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Anyway, what's your bright spot?
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Uh, my bright spot, ah, there's a new Mogwai album out.
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Mm.
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Always, I'm always gonna do it, I guess. That's, I f- I was listening to this album, and I started to feel old,
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because I started to feel like this was my, like, "Oh, I've listened to every
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one of the- Dylan's albums for the past 20
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years." You know? And it's like, you don't need to listen to all of them. You don't.
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Mm-hmm.
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Most of them, you could just kinda skim through. Uh,
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and then especially with Mogwai, because it's a post-rock band, most
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of their songs are instrumental. So it's not like you're singing along with lyrics or anything.
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Mm-hmm.
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And if you're not paying attention, then they can all kind of become one long song.
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Sure they can.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they're trying some different stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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There's a lot more lyrics. They're doing some singing. Uh, everything is far more electronic.
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And again, I started to feel old, 'cause I was like, "Ah, man." Remember those days of the '90s?
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Sure.
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Mogwai fear Satan. Yeah, they do.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? And, uh, it just doesn't sound the same.
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30 years later.
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It doesn't sound the same.
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I, I have two questions that I ha- I'm preoccupied with.
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Sure.
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The first is, aren't Mogwai the name of the, like, uh, Gremlins?
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Uh, Mogwai are the name of the pre-transformation Gremlins.
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Right.
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Yes.
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I was trying to make sure... I was like, I think that's what that is.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I couldn't quite remember.
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Yep.
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And then second, is there pre-rock?
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Um, yeah.
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There's post-rock. Is there pre-rock?
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Yeah, I would say it's probably R&B.
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Hmm.
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I mean, if you wanna describe it that. But I think post-rock-
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Everything has, everything has to be in relation to rock?
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Uh, no. I mean, if you wanna descri- I mean,
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M- Mogwai is in relation to rock. You know, you could describe
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Broken Social Scene as a Baroque, uh, uh, rock and roll band-
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Mm-hmm.
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... if you will. You know, there are different things that you could apply to, to various genres.
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Well, I'm just, I'm just saying that if,
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you know, if we're calling something post-rock, something's gotta be pre-rock.
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Sure.
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Uh, and then, um, uh-
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What about ASAP rock?
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Uh-
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Is that... That would be pre-rock because Aesop, of course.
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You mean Aesop Rock, the Def Jux artist?
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I mean, no, I mean Aesop's Fables.
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Oh.
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Uh, as, an- when he turned them into songs.
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You don't mean the-
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(laughs)
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... the guy from Def Jux-
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(laughs)
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... uh, who would
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rap, uh-
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Never.
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... somewhat, uh-
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(laughs)
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... seemingly disconnected words.
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(laughs) There you go. Pre-rock. (laughs)
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Yeah. Um, so anyway, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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All right.
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We're gonna be talking about the rest of January 20th, 2020-
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Okay.
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... five.
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All right.
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Uh, this is the, uh, the, uh, obviously inauguration day.
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Yep.
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On our last episode, we went over the, um, you know, the, Alex watching the speech-
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Sure.
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... the inauguration speech.
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Sure.
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The second inauguration speech.
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Yeah.
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And then he went to the quiet place of the Most High.
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Yes, he did.
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And I think that might've taken a lot out of him, 'cause he went to go take a nap, I think.
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That's fair.
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Yeah.
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I think that's appropriate.
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So he got off air-
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Right.
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... and then he came back.
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No.
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Uh, during The War Room.
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No.
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Jase was hosting The War Room, and, uh, Alex took over for a little bit. Um,
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and so we're gonna experience the rest of the evening-
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Okay.
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... uh, that Alex went through, uh, on-
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Is Jase still there?
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... Inauguration Day. Yeah, he'll, he'll pop up for a little bit.
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Ah.
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No good tandem moments, but he, he's gonna make a little appearance on today's show.
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All right.
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So we'll get down to business on all this, but
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first, uh, let's take a little moment to say hello, uh, to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, uh, Tessa, there's no one Joe and I would
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rather have stood beside as we filled the basement of the Middle East with the sound of hissing.
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You're a magnificent woman of powerful hisses. Merry
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Christmas from Hailee and Joe. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Sss-
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I think, I think we might see where, uh, where we're at-
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Mm-hmm.
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... based upon... (laughs)
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Mm.
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Yeah.
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Next, uh, this is Matt in Ireland who would like
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all Knowledge Fight listeners to know that his brother Scott in Richmond
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can, in fact, paddle, uh, the Lower James, paddle the Lower James.
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Merry Christmas, Scott. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk.
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I'm a Policy Wonk.
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Thank you very-
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Thank you. And Jessica and Nick, road trip from
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Chicago to California and back, listening to Knowledge Fight the whole time. Thank you for the
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perfect show to travel the country with. Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a Teknokrate in the mix too.
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Ooh.
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So thank you so much to our cat named Sushi, looks exactly like Saline, parenthesis, plus one eye. Hmm.
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Hmm.
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Also, every time Jordan talks about Iran, he confuses
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Operation Ajax with the 1979 Revolution, and it vexes me to no end. Thank you so much. You are now a Teknokrat.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Sharp (singing) .
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean Black accent. He's a loser
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little, little titty baby. I don't wanna hate Black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Shots fired about Operation Ajax.
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I, I'm fine with that. I don't thi- I don't think I could tell you what either of them are, so-
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Well, Ajax is a kitchen cleaner.
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... so I'm amazed that I could confuse them. Oh, that's-
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It's a-
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... fair.
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It's a powder that you use to clean your sink.
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I only use Mr. Clean, the pa- the most patriotic of cleaning, uh, uh, uh, mascots.
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Sure.
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Of course.
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You know, you know who came up with Mr. Clean?
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The Iranians? (laughs)
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Yes.
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During
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Operation Ajax.
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During Operation Ajax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.
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Um, so Jordan, today we start off when Alex comes into the war room.
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All right.
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About an hour and 20 minutes into the war room.
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(laughs)
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So he went to go take a little breaky, uh, and, and came back-
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Uh-huh.
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... uh, because Trump is gonna give a third speech of the day.
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What?
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Yep.
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I am
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completely overwhelmed. I know a lot of you are as well.
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Uh,
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I mean, the stuff he said in his second inaugural speech, that was extremely powerful
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on so many fronts.
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He hit every point. Though I wish the speech was only
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40 minutes, it could've been a lot longer, but he did an excellent job.
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And, uh, he means to do everything he said, so the policy was just excellent.
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And, and then he did that, uh, off the cuff, more hardcore, hour-long talk
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to another area in the Capitol to supporters.
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And then now, he did that totally impromptu. As you heard, there was an area with overflow,
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people were watching, a lot of his new incoming staff
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but also just fans.
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And now he's at the scheduled
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victory parade.
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And, uh, reportedly this is gonna be big meat and potatoes
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on the 200 executive orders that we still don't have all the details on. We've gotten some
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of what he's gonna do.
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Uh, very smart to just declare a national emergency. It is an emergency, the dissolved borders and the Great
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Reset that we're fighting to to- totally reverse
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and repair. But the way the laws have worked, he, he isn't able to even get what he wants done
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statutorily to override previous presidents' emergencies
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unless he declares his.
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So,
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a lot goes into that. And, and that's... That's why the
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UN reauthorized a few months ago its bird flu emergency.
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Oh, that's why. So this relationship with declaring emergencies in order to seize power cannot possibly
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fit with the image that Alex has presented for the rest of his career.
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He's up here on his show acting like it's just how business is done.
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All leaders need to declare emergencies or else they can't
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do anything because of the previous emergencies that past presidents have declared.
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You need to declare emergencies, and any president who doesn't operate that way would be an idiot not to.
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But that's not what Alex believes, at least if you
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judge by his public positions that he's expressed over the past 30 years.
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In Infowars' world, the emergencies, th- they're declared so presidents can unilaterally do crazy
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shit they couldn't get away with otherwise. It's about
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subverting the Constitution in order to exert power they don't rightly have
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outside of the context of that emergency.
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I understand that the way Alex is trying to frame this
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goes like this: The globalists have set up a bunch of really
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evil stuff that restricts Trump from being able to enact his plan, so the
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only way that Trump could do what he needs to do to free America from this really evil stuff
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is by declaring an emergency. At which
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point, he can act as a dictator and get rid of all that really evil stuff.
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If he didn't do the dictator move, he would run into problems trying to get rid of all the really evil stuff
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because the globalists have built in resistance to getting rid of really evil stuff
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in the bureaucracy of the government and all the checks and balances.
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He has to take on unilateral dictator-type power in order to save representative democracy.
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It's kind of like what happens in the Star Wars prequels.
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I get that that's what he's promoting, but it's very
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stupid, and I don't think that Alex himself could actually believe that. I don't believe it.
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He obviously knows he's just supporting
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a guy seizing unconstitutional levels of power, because
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the way he's exerting that power is in line with the white identity based world that Alex wants to live in.
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It's just a bad strategy though, because when you sign off on someone acting like this,
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you really need to hope that the other side
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never comes back into power. If Trump has seized
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all this authority because of an emergency he declared, it seems
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like a, kinda silly to oppose the next president declaring an emergency to seize their own power.
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And if Trump can declare this emergency and then sign an executive order attempting to
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ban birthright citizenship, then why would you
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ever have a problem with the next president signing an executive order banning gun ownership?
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The 14th Amendment very clearly says, quote,
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"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
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are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." On this
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evening of January 20th, Trump released an executive order titled, quote, "Protecting the
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Meaning and Value of American Citizenship," that says, quote,
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"The 14th Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship
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universally to everyone born within the United States." If the president is able
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to make interpretive decisions about the Constitution,
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certainly it's fair game to say the Second Amendment doesn't guarantee a citizen's right to own guns.
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Trump gets to do this kinda stuff because Alex really never cared about a president
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using an emergency to justify unconstitutional actions.
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He just didn't want them doing stuff he doesn't
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like that way, and he supports them doing stuff he's into however it happens.
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Yeah.
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The principles around this stuff are just a charade. It's a mask.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because it feels like Alex in- inadvertently or perhaps advertently, uh, uh-
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Postvertantly.
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... has, nice, uh, uh, essentially normalized being a horrible dictator
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by calling everyone a horrible dictator.
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Yeah.
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Right? So it only makes sense that you have a... It's like the same
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excuse that NSA has for spying on people. Like, yeah, it's unconstitutional, but come on.
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Mm-hmm.
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What? Are we not gonna do it? They're gonna do it. That kind of thing.
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Sure.
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Um.
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There's, there's shades of that.
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You shouldn't be cool with that, but I guess we already are in a, in a lot of ways.
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And then you have just, like, it's smart if you're not, Alex, because
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this presi- You know, as you were saying, like, why would the next president not do that stuff?
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Well, and it's because if they're a Democrat, they've already proved that they won't do that stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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So you have full weight. Like, you should go crazy
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during these years, because even when you're punished by being out of power,
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you're not going to be undone.
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No, I-
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So you might as well go even crazier.
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I understand that strategically-
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Yeah.
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... from, like, Trump and all of their positions, but, like-
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No, it makes sense.
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Yeah, but they're very seriously gambling on the, uh, idea that
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someone who could do that will not e- emerge. You know, like-
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Well, I mean, it's a good gamble.
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I think,
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yeah,
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it's fair, it's fairly, it's a fairly good bet.
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I mean, Obama didn't even, you know, do the financial crisis right.
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Sure.
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So-
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He went through Congress for Obamacare.
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(laughs) Yeah.
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And, you know, like, all of that stuff-
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Right.
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... could be-
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Right.
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... you know, this, uh, festival of executive orders that Trump-
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Right.
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... carried out that night.
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Yeah.
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There's so many things that could have been, uh, just done, uh, shittily-
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Yeah.
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... like this.
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Yeah.
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This is shitty.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, but my, my larger point around it is, uh, less that-
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... although they should be thinking about it a little.
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Well, they-
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Uh, and it's more, it's more that Alex has always pretended to care
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about how these things are being done.
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Sure.
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Like, the, uh, eh, being opposed to executive orders and emergency declarations and stuff.
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Yeah.
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Um, and it's all just circumstantial. It- it means-
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Yeah.
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It means nothing.
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Yeah. It is... It makes you wonder if that's kind of... Was any part of it
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conscious, you know? Like, the, is there any knowledge of,
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as long as I can paint my enemy as the most evil thing I can think of, then my
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evil will be justified?
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I don't know. I don't think so.
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Yeah.
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I think they're-
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It can't be.
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I think there are just sort of tricks that he's learned over time, and
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shit's gotten more and more desperate for him, uh, in terms of trying to keep things interesting.
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Sure.
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And that's the point that you get to. The ball rolls downhill.
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There you go.
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Um, and, but I do think that he would, uh,
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you know, he's made a bunch of police state movies, and I think he'd be totally fine with a police state.
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Yep.
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I think he has no problem with that. (laughs)
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Well, you know, people who, uh, who want a police state are
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generally people who don't think they're gonna be subject to the police state.
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I think he would be fine as long as there was a, uh, uh,
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executive order that white people didn't have to show their papers or something like that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think he'd be totally fine.
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Nazis were a lot cooler with the whole Jew thing, because they didn't have to worry about it. (laughs)
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Hmm.
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So, uh, Alex, you know, he really doesn't want Trump to do these emergencies-
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Yeah.
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... and stuff.
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But what, what are you gonna do?
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What are you gonna do?
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What are you gonna do?
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What are you gonna do?
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And I would hope, as we restore our republic,
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um, that, uh, they follow the War Powers Act again.
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And presidents don't launch wars on congressional approval. Trump voted
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for that, and I would hope that they, we should push for... stop ruling by emergency.
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But
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that's what's on the books, and...
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the real emergency is how we have the sickest kids in the world, and getting sicker, and
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it's by design.
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So this is a pretty good illustration of Alex's relationship with
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principles. He has a fundamental belief in the Constitution, and it's so important to follow that
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holy government document. It's been
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everything to him. Everything in his, uh, career has been
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about defending that, because the globalists need to undermine the Constitution in order
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to enslave humanity on behalf of the devil.
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But now, he's a fully dedicated Trump supporter, and Trump has clearly indicated he has
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no respect for the Constitution, and he will undermine it however he can
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in order to achieve the political and financial goals he's seeking. And that should be a problem for Alex.
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The undermining of the Constitution
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is the actual problem, not just that the globalists want to use that undermining to
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enslave or kill off humanity. The act of undermining the Constitution
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is an actual problem, because the globalists would never do that
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unless their goal was to enslave or kill off humanity. Because this formulation is super
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clear in Alex's content, Alex now needs to come up with conditional reasons why it's sometimes
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okay to undermine the Constitution. "It's okay when there's a real emergency, like unhealthy children
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to address. It's okay when declaring emergencies and seizing unconstitutional power is the only
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way to achieve the goal that you're seeking."
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If any of that is true, then there is no reason to pretend you have a Constitution-based problem
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with the president unilaterally establishing a single payer healthcare system.
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There's no Constitution-based issue with the president restricting access to guns, which are a leading
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cause of death for children aged one to 19 in the United States.
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Alex can disagree with the goal, but he can't possibly have a problem with the method.
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I'm harping on this a little bit, and the reason is because
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Alex's career is unique among the classic right-wing pundits. It's come out a little more religiously
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based in recent years, but even earlier
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on, he pretended to transcend partisan disagreements, and so he needed to find
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ways to elevate what he thought his points
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were and how they were being delivered. If he really
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just believed that guns were cool and people should have them, he couldn't just make
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that his point. That's what everyone else
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was doing, and he wouldn't stand out. He needed to set himself apart from the rest by pretending to report on
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the, uh, to the audience on the decades-long plot to surreptitiously subvert the Constitution
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through executive orders and emergency declarations meant to take your guns away from you.
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People rightly label him a conspiracy theorist, and how that comes out a lot of the time is in him discussing
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the methods he believes his enemies are using.
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His positions often have little to do with the actual
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subjects he's pretending to cover, but are actually
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about secret moves the enemy is making behind the scenes in order to achieve their goals.
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Because a lot of his coverage and complaints revolved around these types of stories, the
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methods the globalists were supposedly using got a lot of attention and are roundly understood to be evil.
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But now Alex has to support someone using those same
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tactics and make excuses for why they're doing
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that, and in the process, it calls into
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question how sincere any of his old complaints about these methods actually were.
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If there are circumstances where you can unilaterally infringe on the Constitution when you're
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president because you have a good goal that you couldn't achieve otherwise, you're
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in very dangerous waters if you're Alex. Very few of his past political positions make sense
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with that context added to them. It kind of becomes too
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obvious that he's actually motivated by something else. Uh, like hate.
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Yeah. Yeah, this i- this is interesting.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right? And I find this interesting because, for
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his career, obviously, he's been lying to his listeners, but he's been giving them lies that they like.
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Uh, now,
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will, will it matter, or does it bo- or do they just like the new lies?
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Mm-hmm.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, go where the lies are. Go where the people are responding to your lies.
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I have to assume that it just, like... I don't know. Anybody who was gonna care is gone already.
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Right. Yeah.
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You know? Like...
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Yeah, yeah. Or maybe they just never cared in the first place.
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Yeah.
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Maybe they just liked hanging out with other Nazis. (laughs)
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They're...
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(laughs)
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Or they get, you know, get a charge out of, uh, Alex yelling, and that's-
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Sure, sure, sure.
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... that does something for you.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. It's nice.
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Um, so yeah, I- I- I don't know what the path forward for him is, but it has nothing to do with
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continuing the tradition of what his career has been about.
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No.
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And, uh,
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I don't know.
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I mean-
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It's a bummer.
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It, it is, it is, it's a, it's a... I think, I think the question now is going to be, uh,
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like, will he ever be allowed back? You know what I mean? 'Cause it's, it, they-
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No.
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I mean, unless, unless this lasts forever.
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But after this is done, are people gonna do the same thing that they've, you know,
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been doing where they're like, "You had a rough
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go for eight years. Now, you're back to being the real guy that we remember"? You know?
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To who? To, to what audience?
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Exactly.
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Like, do you mean to conspiracy right-wing audiences? Or do you mean-
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Yeah, I mean, when they're, when they're done-
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Mm-hmm.
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... enjoying the, the new lies, are they gonna go back to the old lies?
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I mean, I don't know. I, I think that, uh,
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what we've seen is all been pretty downward slides in terms of like, um,
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quality.
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Sure.
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So you have like, uh, Tucker being a respectable shithead, uh, cable news pundit-
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Sure.
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... uh, supporting the Iraq war.
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Sure.
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Uh, sliding down to Fox News Trump pundit-
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Sure.
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Sliding down to, "I was attacked by a demon."
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Sure.
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Those are all downward slides, and people have accepted him as he hit each level.
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Sure.
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And I think if there's another downward slide, he'd be accepted wherever that is.
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Sure.
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You know, like, I don't know, swastika tattoo on his forehead.
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Yeah.
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He'd be accepted by that group.
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Right.
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But I don't know if you could ever get back to
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the, the place you slid from. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, totally. I mean, in the media, yeah.
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And I think that's the same with Alex. Like, I don't think he could ever become like,
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uh,
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the guy who was in Waking Life and yelled about 9/11 being an inside job in the Federal Reserve.
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I don't think he could return to that.
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Yeah.
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But he could find another spot under this.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting question, because with the media, you can return back to...
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If you go down, th- that's, for them, all a lateral move.
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Mm-hmm.
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So like, you can go back.They'll, th- they can't
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wait to hire you back in 'cause then you give them the legitimacy of being,
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like, "See? We're above the partisan thing."
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Mm-hmm.
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'Cause we've, we've elevated, uh, Tucker Carlson back from, uh, uh,
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the demon bit me too. Now he's Fox News's biggest host again.
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I don't, I don't know if he can do that.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if he can.
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Well, I know he wouldn't want to do it.
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No, but I, I don't know if it would be accepted. I don't know if he would have an audience for that.
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Hmm.
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I think that people would look at him as a sell-out
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and whatever he's done, he would l- I think he would lose too much by going back up.
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Yeah.
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I think the, the path, uh, through goes down (laughs) .
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I'd be interested.
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Quite frankly.
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Yeah.
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Um, but yeah. I, I, I think that, uh, Alex has ba- made his bed.
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Sure.
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He'll have use forever as, like, the image of a guy who was prophetic and he was right about everything.
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Sure.
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Like, the fake version of him that, uh,
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li- lives in Tucker's head, that will be useful for people regardless of what happens to him.
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Sure.
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Uh, just so long as the late end of his career doesn't end,
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uh, too embarrassingly.
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What you gonna do?
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Looks bad now, though.
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It doesn't look great.
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So, uh, there was a border patrol agent that got shot.
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Okay.
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Recently. I don't know if you heard about that.
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Nope.
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Uh, but Alex ta- talks about that and then he's trying to weave it into, uh, some of his narratives about
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false flag attacks-
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Gotcha.
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... on, uh, migrants.
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And, and, I, I think they'll hit the migrants or, or a, a, a pro-migrant demonstration with a mix of people
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who are citizens and migrant. That's
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80% of the programming. But they keep hyping he's gonna come kill the Black people
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with just zero evidence, totally cockamamie. Why the hell would Trump do that? I mean, it'd be...
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He, he doesn't dislike Black people. Plus, he, he lo- he loves everybody in America
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and, uh, uh, uh, and, and who, who loves the country and
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why would he do that out of a clear blue sky? No, the people telling you he's gonna do that
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with just absolutely random, no evidence, are the, obviously the ones that stand to gain from it.
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And it just goes on and on and on and on and on.
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So,
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this just happened in the last couple of hours.
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Border agent reportedly shot dead in Vermont traffic stop as Trump sworn in.
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A border patrol agent
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in northern Vermont was fatally shot in the neck
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by what is reported to be a legal immigrant, and they're just out of control, folks.
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Just after President Trump was being sworn in in hundreds of miles in Washington on a promise to deem
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the border crisis a national emergency on his first day in office.
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And it goes on to say the border agent was shot while conducting a traffic stop. The shooter, who
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Bradley referred to as a visa overstay,
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was also reportedly killed.
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So that's thanks to the Biden Administration and George Soros and the NGOs.
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Vermont public safety officials have issued a news release announcing
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that Interstate 91 at mile marker 168 is closed due to an evolving police incident.
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The location is near Newport, north of
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Burlington, near the Canadian border.
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Vermont officials have not released additional information on the incident.
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So there's another one. Border patrol agent shot and killed during traffic stop. This is Fox.
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U.S. border agent killed.
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Now, thi- this is what we're talking about.
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In fact, guys, I, I meant to tell you, get, get the clip of the mayor,
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the, the jerk
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in Chicago ready.
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(clears throat) Borders are Tom Homan says raids on sanctuary cities to
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deport illegals may be paused after plan was leaked.
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And, and that's
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bad guys inside that's coming out
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because they still got leftists in there and they're still talking to NGOs.
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Oh no, the deep state! Ah.
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About what they were planning to hit and what they were planning to do, namely Chicago,
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as early as tonight.
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Ooh.
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And that's good to, to be careful because th- this is... They're walking into a trap
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to brand all of what Trump's doing, trying to secure our nation and our borders, and, and, and, and
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going after the human traffickers and the sex slavery. They need to... I mean, think about
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one person died in Charlottesville and they acted like it was the end of the
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world and blamed Trump. And, and, and
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J- J6 they said seven cops died and o- no
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cops died. It's just a... They will... And they called that worse than Pearl Harbor.
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I mean, you get a, you know, couple of hundred illegal aliens shot
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at some anti, you know,
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Trump rally
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and they blame it on a Trump supporter and kill some patsy, it's gonna be
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crazy and they're gonna activate the leftist groups, Antifa, the Communists, and the
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Black Lives Matter, to burn the country down.
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Then when Trump tries to call the military
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out, they're gonna call him a dictator, then they'll hit us with the
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cyberattacks, the power outages, and God knows what. That's when they're gonna make their move.
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But as long as we're aware of it and the public
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is looking for that, there's a good chance they won't try it, but we gotta get this as a front burner issue.
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Nobody else is gonna make the point I'm making.
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Yeah.
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This is clear as the nose on my face.
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Very clear.
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Very clear.
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So Alex's big conspiracy storyline here is that the
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Trump Administration is gonna carry out raids
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meant to round up undocumented immigrants, which insanely, Alex supports, but I guess whatever.
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There's some opposition to this plan, so people have indicated that they're going
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to protest these raids and when possible, maybe even
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try to obstruct them through some form of civil disobedience.
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Alex believes that these protests will be
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cover that the globalists will use to set off truck
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bombs and mass shootings, targeting the protesters which will then be blamed on Trump supporters
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as a way of demonizing Trump's plan to round up immigrants.
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On one level, this is just Alex doing preemptive damage control for the fact that there's a
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non-zero possibility that some Trump fans or
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more extreme right-wingers who feel
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betrayed by Trump's insufficient action, they could commit acts of
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domestic terrorism against left-leaning protests. Alex knows that this would be a huge PR
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problem for his business, so he has to do everything in his power to make sure that
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no one cares if some act of terrorism like that happens, or at least if
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they care, that he's able to hijack that concern and redirect it towards things that are profitable
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for him. But in order to flesh out this narrative, Alex is incorporating this breaking
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news about a border patrol agent getting shot.
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This is meant to be an example of the sort of thing Alex has been
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pr- predicting will happen. This specific
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incident is reported in the context of this larger
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story because it's supposed to be connected. However, this was about a
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German guy in Vermont who had overstayed his visa and had been under
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surveillance prior to this traffic stop.
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He and a 21-year-old woman from Washington
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State had been reported to the police as suspicious because they showed up to check in to a hotel in tactical
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gear and the woman had a gun in a visible holster.
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That's very suspicious.
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It's a little, it's a little bit, uh-
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It's suspicious.
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It depends on the hotel you're staying in, whether or not it's gonna be,
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I'm calling the police suspicious, but, uh-
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I mean, hey.
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So the police had been following them and they saw them go to a
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Walmart and the man exited the store with a bunch of aluminum foil, which was eventually
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used to wrap cell phones, which is a little bit suspicious. The border patrol attempted to make a routine
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stop to bring them in for an interview
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and the woman started shooting, ultimately killing one of the agents, uh, and in the firefight, the
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German man was killed also. According to the Seattle
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Times, the woman's parents had reported her missing to Seattle police in
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May, fearing that she was in a "controlling relationship"
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and was being forced to cut off contact with friends and family.
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I don't know exactly what happened in this case, but it definitely appears that it was some, some bad shit.
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The issue is that it has no connection to Alex's narratives about immigration protests and false-flag
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truck bombings. He has no information about this story other than a couple of surface
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details, and he's trying to use that to manipulatively reinforce the story he's been pushing.
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This is, uh, not following best practices with the reporting.
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Yeah.
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I'll say that for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah. There should definitely be some, uh, some rules.
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But I think more importantly, there should be some respect for a crazy fucking story.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? If you're Alex, you should be like, "Hey, tip of the cap, this story's fucking nuts." You know?
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It's pretty nuts.
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It's pretty nuts.
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Yeah.
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So, you know?
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But it also seems like from the details that are available
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when I was preparing this episode, it seems like it's an instance where there was
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probably a fairly abusive guy who had, uh, you know, exerted-
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Sure. Right.
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... some influence on this woman.
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Right, right, right, right. The-
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They were committing some crimes.
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The problem has, the problem isn't CBP. The problem is domestic violence.
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It seems like that's more the headline.
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(laughs) You know?
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But I guess Alex can use it for his conspiracies if he wants.
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I think, and I, I don't know, I can't prove this, but I would bet-
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I would bet everything that I've ever owned
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and will own in the future, that if we got rid of all of the agencies that we had
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and then put them into one big agency that
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just deals with domestic violence, we would do better at solving the problems that all of the agencies have.
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You should run for president so you could do that in an executive order-
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I think-
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... and Alex can complain about it.
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I think they probably would. But maybe Alex would get
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torn up by a dragnet. (laughs)
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So, here, uh, we get one of our favorite fucking things.
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Yeah.
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And that is a Thomas Jefferson quote.
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Great.
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And again, it's all meant to weigh down the carrying capacity of the
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civilization, demoralize people, make them give up.
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That's how you conquer a country, is by collapsing it from within.
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As
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Thomas Jefferson said, "America could never be conquered from without. We
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would have to be rotted from within."
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So, that's not a Jefferson quote.
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No, there's no way Thomas Jefferson said that.
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Nah. It went around social media a couple years
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back being attributed to Abraham Lincoln, and the folks who researched the quote agree
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that it's basically a rephrasing of an actual line from a ni- a 1838 speech that Lincoln gave.
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Okay.
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Quote, "At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I
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answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up
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amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and her
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finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all time or die by suicide."
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This speech that Lincoln gave was specifically
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about mob violence that was popping up around the country, lynch mobs and what have you.
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Sure.
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On an unrelated note, uh, one of the first things that Trump did when he got into office was
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pardon all the members of the Oath Keepers militia and Proud Boys street gang, who conspired to use
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mob violence to stop the certification of the 2020 election.
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Well.
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So, this is an inconvenient, uh, misquote that Alex is, is trotting out here,
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uh, when you understand where it comes from.
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Yeah. And if it's... I don't know if this is, if it was going on at the exact time, but,
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uh, one of those things that this quote could really very much apply to is, uh,
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whenever Kansas and Missouri went to war about slavery.
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Mm-hmm.
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That was fun.
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It was fun.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think that had to do with Operation Ajax.
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I think it might have.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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But I always mistake it for the revolution of, uh, 1879.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So, Alex, uh, he, he does not stick around all that long.
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Sure, sure.
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I think he gets bored. And so Chase comes in, and, uh, ooh, this, this fucking dork.
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Hmm.
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I think what we're gonna see from Donald Trump is more action in the first 30 days
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and the first four weeks of his presidency than we saw from Joe Biden in the first four years of his.
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This is not somebody who is a puppet, who
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obeys the orders or commands of the globalists
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at the top or the elite of the highest levels of the political class. He's not someone who is
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subject to the world bankers or international interests.
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He owes them money!
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Exterior interests, rather, those interests which exist exclusively
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outside the interests of the United States of America.
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He does!
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We are ending the reign of post-World War II globalism less than 100 years
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after the end of World War II, and we are beginning the reign of the 21st century's
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national sovereignty, populist movement, total awakening, Pax Trompana.
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So, Chase is very clearly referencing the idea of Pax
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Romana here, which is a term that's used to describe the period between 27 BC and AD 180.
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The, uh, term Pax Romana translates as r- uh, Roman Peace, but it's an ironic name, because that was
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not really a period of peace. It was a time of insane
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Roman imperial conquest, uh, when it went from a republic to an empire. Octavian ruled as a
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bit of a dictator, and a lot of it went pretty well, because
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the Romans were incredibly strong, and their economy
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boomed considerably, partially due to the
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invention of concrete. Also, let's not forget that the period of Pax Romana included the time when
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Caligula was emperor. So, maybe, maybe InfoWars should s- shouldn't be into that, right?
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Sure.
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I mean, their whole thing is about, like, being against the Epsteins and stuff.
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Yeah.
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Like,
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during Pax Romana, there was, there was a, you know, Caligula, and their guy, Trump, Pax Trompana-
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Yeah.
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... is friends with Epstein.
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Yeah. But I mean-
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This isn't, this isn't-
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... you know, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
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This doesn't mirror well.
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The, the guy who Caligula w- you know, is better than the, than the, uh,
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Europeanists.
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Hmm.
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'Cause they didn't have global, they didn't have the globe back then.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And also, if we, if we, if we believe this framing-
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Yeah.
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... that Chase is using-
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Yeah.
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... then Marc Anthony is Biden.
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Okay.
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All right. So, Melania is Cleopatra?
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No.
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Oh.
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Jill Biden must be- (laughs)
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(laughs)
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Um-
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Sounds right to me.
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Sounds right to me. (laughs)
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(laughs) Um, no, 'cause I guess it's the third
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term of Obama, so you could say that Obama was Marc Anthony, maybe.
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Okay.
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And then Michelle is, uh, or Hillary, I don't know.
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Oh, and then Hillary-
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Obama wasn't having sex with, uh, Hillary, though, so...
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Yeah. Yeah, and they made Hillary sell out to the globalists
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like Cleopatra had to give up her empi- there we go.
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Hmm.
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It all makes sense now.
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It's all coming together.
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It's all coming together.
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Barron is Caligula.
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You know what? It repeats itself, history.
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Ooh.
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It's crazy like that.
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So, uh, Chase goes on and, uh, he's talking
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about how, like, yeah, sure, all the billionaires were there at Trump's inauguration.
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He can just, you can just believe anything-
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(laughs)
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... can't you? You know? Like, he's not lying... I mean, he's, he's not lying to himself.
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He believes some of this crazy shit.
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Some of it.
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Wild.
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Some of it. But, like, uh, th- a little bit later, we're gonna hear some more of Trump, uh, talking.
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Sure. (laughs)
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And one of the things that kept running through my head as, as I was listening to it was-
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Yeah.
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... the only relevant question here is, to what degree are you aware you're lying?
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Right.
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That's the only real relevant question.
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Yeah.
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You're saying complete
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bullshit.
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Absolute nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not worth engaging with you on a-
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Yeah.
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... true or false level.
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Yeah.
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Are you insane, or are you just that deeply malicious that-
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Right.
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... you are
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rattling off repeated lies at me-
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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... and, and demanding that I accept them?
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Yeah.
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And I think the same is kinda true of Chase.
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You know, it's like, how much of this is, is, like, how much do you know you're lying?
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Yeah.
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It's a, it's a percentage.
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Well-
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But I'm not sure what it is.
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Yeah, you know, but at the same time, it's like, it's a percentage and then it's a paycheck.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know? Like,
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"What I'm, what I'm doing is my job. I'm not lying to anybody.
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I'm just doing what I'm paid to do, man." That kind of thing.
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I think, I feel like Chase probably could get a job somewhere else.
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He's one of the few people I, I f- I think may be competent.
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You wanna give him an internship here?
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Fuck no.
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(laughs)
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Uh, but, like, he could probably have some job in, in
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i- uh,
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you know what? I spoke too soon. I don't know what he could do.
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(laughs) I was gonna say, I don't know if he can do a thing.
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I think until he became, like, really
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branded as an InfoWars guy, Owen Shroyer probably could have been a totally
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fine, like, sports reporter or whatever.
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Hmm.
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Like, he has enough chops to-
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Sure.
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... fill some slot.
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Sure, and it's not a gig that requires the, the, a, a massive level of talent.
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Not really.
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No.
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And I think that Chase has some, uh, skills that would translate to a job-
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Sure.
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... if he weren't branded as the InfoWars guy.
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Sure.
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Whereas Harrison, I think, has no redeeming quality whatsoever.
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No, no, no.
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Uh-
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Chase seems like a good, like, late night radio...
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No.
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Like he should play some music.
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I, I'm, I'm thinking IT guy.
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You're thinking IT guy? (laughs)
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I'm thinking, like, behind the scenes-
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No way.
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... 'cause he runs all the spaces.
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I want him, I want him on air from 2:00 AM to 4:00 AM playing his heart out.
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Hmm.
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Whatever music he feels like listening to. That's what I'm here for.
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Oh.
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College radio.
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I wonder what it would be.
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I can't imagine.
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A lot of Mogwai. (laughs)
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I bet. (laughs) He's a huge post-rock guy.
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So, here's more of Chase being a fucking dork.
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Okay.
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And we're gonna see people go up and give speeches
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and talk about how great Trump is and just totally kiss his ass.
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And we're gonna see from the Zuckerbergs and the Bezoses and the Bill
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Gateses and the other globalist elites, even the Alex Soroses, how they're just gonna
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stroke his ego in attempt to flatter him and
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flatter him and flatter him, because they believe that he is leading based off of
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vanity or some superficial motive. But it's not true, he's leading
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for the sake of his legacy, which one could say is vain, but it isn't in his
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case, in Trump's case, because it's about-
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What?
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... conscience.... something these globalists
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know nothing of, something the Alex Soroses and the Bill Gateses and the- and the George Soroses
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know nothing of. They haven't tasted conscience since their youth, if they even had it then, a conscience.
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And so, he's not gonna fall for it. He's not gonna fall for the vanity
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and the flattery. He doesn't care any more because he dodged a bullet and he saw the face of God.
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Okay.
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And so we, as a nation, need to realize that what Trump experienced in Butler, Pennsylvania,
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dodging of a bullet and seeing the face of God, seeing the hand of God, is also what we as an American
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population experienced.
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You're a fucking lunatic.Hey, what you gonna do? (laughs)
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Trump saw the face of God.Welp!
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Sure! Sure, they're there, uh, to flatter him because we all know
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he owes a lot of people a lot of money-Mm-hmm.... and is
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very susceptible to flattery.Yep.Uh,
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especially 'cause we saw that on the television, altogether-Right.... for
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decades.And the billionaires are going to need, uh, his acquiescence and him not being a
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giant dickhead to them in order to keep their businesses
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going and make, b- you know, record profits.Yeah, they do
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tend to care about that more than, uh, winning or losing the president.Yeah.Uh, yeah.So,
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th- uh, obviously, it's a great relationship for them now.Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, can you, can they still be mad at, like, corporations that, like, donated to
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B-Biden, or Harris, or whatever? Because now, they're just
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gonna give a lot of money to Trump.Mm-hmm.You know? Like,
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shouldn't they be like, "Hey, welcome, uh, welcome aboard,
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uh, Bud Light. Now, no more, no more of this, uh-"No more woke."... wokeness."Yeah.Yeah.Um,
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I don't know. I mean, w- we do know that Trump banned woke.He
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did.He stopped woke.He did.He did have an executive order to get rid of
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woke.He... Okay.Yeah.Good!Get rid of all D-I- DEI stuff.About time.Um,
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uh-Yeah.... trying to undo affirmative action.Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.Um...I mean, people
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could just make the choice to hire more Black people, uh, without a law, but I guess that's just
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not possible.Sure.Yeah.So, I- I- I think that, uh,
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you know, we have a situation where things are bad.Yep.So, later on
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in the evening-Uh-huh.... uh, they come back on air.Sure.And at this point, Trump is
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signing his executive orders.Great.People are- are- are
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around him, fielding questions. They're asking questions to him while he
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has put- paper put in front of him and he just signs it. He has
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no idea what these fucking things are.Why would he? Why would he give
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a shit? (laughs) Why would he give a shit?It's-None of it
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matters to him!It's almost comedic on at least a couple of points where
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he's like, "Ooh, what's this one?" And the guy's like, "This is the thing
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about firing a bunch of people."Doesn't matter."Ooh!"Could have been
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anything.Yeah. (laughs) Could have been anything.Yeah.I don't know
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why anyone is bothering to do the things that he says, whenever you could just-
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just be like, "Oh, we missed." Like, it wouldn't be
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hard!It's absolutely crazy that, uh, h- he's just so clearly
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signing whatever they-Who cares?...
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sh- shovel in front of him.Yeah.Um, so here's a little, a little taste of, uh, of that.Mm.
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Did you talk to Xi about, uh-
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So, thank you very much for saying this.
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Did you talk to Xi about the Ukraine war?
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Yeah.
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Because China and Brazil together has a proposal to bring, uh, Ch- Russia and Ukraine to talk.
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That's good. That's fine.
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Um...
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I'm- I'm ready.
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When are you going to talk-
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That's good.
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... with the Brazilian president?
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How did Brazil get involved?
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Brazil's role-
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This is a new one.
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When are you going to talk to Lula?
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Are you from Brazil?
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I'm from Brazil.
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Oh.
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(laughs)
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When
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are you going to talk-
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That's why I moved them out for you.
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When are you going to talk with the Brazilian
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president? How do you see your relationship with Latin America and Brazil?
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Great. Should be great.
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There you go.
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They need us
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much more than we need them. We don't need them. They need us. Everybody needs us.
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Okay. All right. (laughs) Day one.That's fun.Going strong.That's fun.
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That's just- that's just good old-fashioned fun.I
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guess. (laughs) I mean, it's irresponsible at best. (laughs) What's
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Brazil up to these days?They're good."Hey, how
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you guys doing?"Hmm."Brazil! Where my Brazilians at?"Look, we-
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they need us. (laughs) We don't need them. (laughs) "Hey,
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hey, little dirty joke. Melania knows Brazilians, you know what I'm saying? (laughs) Hey, everybody." Oh,
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no. Nope."They need us, we don't need them," is a
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different tone than when Bolsonaro was in office. (laughs) Well...But, uh,
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oh well.What you gonna do?So, Chase, uh, much like you, recognizes the humor
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that is going on with Trump's-Yeah....
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handling of the press.Mm-hmm.Uh, and he's just, he's like, "Ah, this is great."
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I hope the audience appreciates how hysterical ****** and his whips-
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What is- what is that? Define that.
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... team witnessed (laughs) . He's
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literally taking their questions and just nonchalantly signing executive orders-
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Because of fentanyl.
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... to shut down the whole political press establishment. (laughs)
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That's only because of fentanyl. There are other things.
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The whole deep state establishment. (laughs)
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And a very big thing is the Panama Canal.
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Uh, China controls the Panama Canal. What's that all about?
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They're not supposed to be good. When Jimmy Carter gave it, which was a terrible
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mistake, a terrible mistake, uh, he didn't do it, he didn't give it to China, he gave it to Panama.
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And China controls the Panama Canal.
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So, are China tariffs still on the table then?
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And we're not gonna allow that to happen.
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Are they still on the table? Or is that off the table?
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We're not... No, we're not gonna allow that to happen.
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Thank you, sir.
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What can we expect of the countries in NATO that spend the least amount of money, like
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Spain, France, below the 5%?
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Spain is very low.
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And yet, are they a BRICS nation?
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What?
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They're a BRICS nation, Spain.
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What's Brazil up to these days?
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Do you know what a BRICS nation is? You'll figure it out.
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(laughs) Wait.
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But, um-
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There's a journalist in there-
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In Spain?
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... who doesn't know what a BRICS nation is. This is how retarded ****** become.
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(laughs) Okay. (laughs) Okay, so Spain.Yeah, Spain.I didn't-
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I didn't see Spain coming.No.No. No.So, BRICS is an acronym meant to describe the countries that are
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a bit more in the Russia and China sphere of influence, which exists
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sort of in response to the G7 group of countries. Uh, their- their grouping, uh, the BRICS, was formed after
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Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, and it became
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somewhat clear they were gonna be kicked out of the
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GA.Sure.I'm glad that Chase thinks this exchange is funny
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and illustrates some ignorance on the part of this reporter, but
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it should be pointed out that Spain is
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definitely not a BRICS country.No.The S in BRICS is for South Africa, who
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joined, uh, what was then called BRIC in 2010.
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There are 10 countries in BRICS. There's Brazil, Russia, India,
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China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the UAE.
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There are nine countries who were offered status as partner states
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and then accepted, which are Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand,
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Uganda, and Uzbekistan. Spain is nowhere
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near this thing, and yet the whole conversation about BRICS countries began with
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Trump complaining about Spain not paying into NATO enough and accusing them of being a BRICS country.
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He's the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, and yet Chase is too
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dumb to realize this, so he just laughs at the reporter
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filling in and, uh, just falling in line with whatever the
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God king, uh, says. Trump-Hey.Trump
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dictates the terms of reality, and then Chase insults people for not, uh,
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following them, even though they're stupid.Yeah, that's a bummer.It is. (laughs) It's a
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real bummer.Mm-hmm.Um, what if, and I'm gonna throw this out there,
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now that he's president, he knows that
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secretly, Spain has been a BRICS nation this whole time?I will change my
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tune.I think this is something that we need to investigate.Sure.He's just asking
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questions about where Spain exists.
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And I'm gonna tell you something, uh, it's in Europe.I wanna follow
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your line of thinking on this.Sure.I'm gonna say that
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even if Trump has secret information
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that Spain is secretly a BRICS country-Sure.... Chase's
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response doesn't make sense.That's true.Because Chase
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is acting like this reporter is the asshole.Yeah.Uh. (laughs) Yeah, there's really no way to
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square this one.Chase doesn't have that secret information that Trump has that Spain is secretly
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a, uh, BRICS country.No matter how you slice it, as they say, Chase is a real idiot.Yes, he is.Yep.
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So, he plays, uh, more of this live Trump signing fest, uh, and the, the subject of TikTok comes up.
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Cool.
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Uh, you know, there was the TikTok ban.
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I do know that there was the TikTok ban-
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We-
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... that everybody wanted, specifically Trump, and then there was the TikTok ban that
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nobody wanted, specifically everybody, and now there's the TikTok ban that they're not
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gonna do because people are mad. Correct?
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Uh, I guess. (laughs)
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Is that essentially what it was? Yes.
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More or less.
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There you go.
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Uh, it gets a little weirder in this, in this context, though.
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Sure.
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President Trump, you and your, members of your team now used to warn
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about the dangers of TikTok spying on Americans. What changed that you're not worried about that anymore?
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Well, it depends on the deal. I mean, I may not do the deal or I may do the deal. TikTok
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is worthless, worthless. If I don't approve it, it has to close. I learned that from the people that own it.
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If it, if I don't do the deal, it's worth-
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They called me.
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... worth nothing.
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If I do the deal, it's worth maybe a trillion dollars. A trillion.
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(laughs)
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So, if I do the deal for the... I'm talking about
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doing it for the United States. If I do the deal for the United States, then I think we should get half.
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The TikTok CEO?
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In other words, wait, I think
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the US should be entitled to get half of TikTok.
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Why?
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And congratulations, TikTok is a good partner.
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(laughs)
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No, it doesn't.
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And that would be worth, you know, could be $500 billion or something. It's crazy. The numbers are crazy.
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That seems a lot like mob shit. (laughs)
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That makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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As long as they pay me the protection money and give me half of their business-
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Yeah. (laughs)
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... I will allow them to continue operating in New York City.
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If you do not pay me, then I will burn your building to the fucking ground.
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You had a nice TikTok here, it'd be a shame if, uh-
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It is-
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... something happened to it.
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It is, it is strange that everybody is in the room listening to this man say this and going,
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"Interesting, I'll put that in the newspaper."
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So-
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Instead of going like, "Oh, this man's a lunatic."
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Uh, follow-up, uh, Mr. President.
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(laughs)
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That sounds a lot like extortion.
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You're a fucking
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mafia don.
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(laughs)
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You understand that, right?
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Yeah.
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"Yes, I'm a mafia don, that's what I do." Okay, fair enough. That's what you do.
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"With this pen, I can either make TikTok worth a trillion dollars or zero, so why don't you give me
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a, whoops, I mean the United States half?"
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(laughs) That's amazing.
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Would you like to invest that-
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You know what?
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... half in my meme coin?
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I mean, I'm not gonna say that that's
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not a lot of how America's gotten a lot of territo- tory over the years. I think Hawaii might
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actually be the exact, uh, that exact situation. (laughs)
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Whatever the case is, true or not true about the past-
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Yeah.
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... the present, I feel like we should be past that a little bit.
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Eh.
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And
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let's say that you are still engaging this way.
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Sure.
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Acting, like being this sort of naked about it is, is-
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Shouldn't be open about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should lie.
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It's fucking bizarre.
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You should lie to people. That would be the way to go, I would say.
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So, they talk a little more about TikTok, and they wanna know, like, "Why
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did you change your, your position on this?"
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Sure.
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And it seems like his answer is, there's an extortion racket that he feels like he can get into.
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Right.
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And then second, he realized, like, "I can fucking push so much misinformation on TikTok."
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Yeah.
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"The kids love me on there."
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It's one of the biggest places for it, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So many different products made in China, and nobody every complained
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about it. The only one they complain about is TikTok.
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And TikTok is largely young people. I guess I have a warm
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spot for TikTok that I didn't have originally, but, you know, I went on TikTok
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and I won young people, by 36%, Peter.
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And Republicans typically don't do too well with young people, but it's a different Republican party.
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Would the US government buy a portion of TikTok then, or how would it get that 50%?
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No, you'd, you'd take 50% of TikTok for the approval
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that TikTok can continue in business, and they'd have a great partner, US would be a partner.
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You just keep saying it.
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But the US essentially would be paid, for doing that, half of the value of TikTok.
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Would there be a private sector owner as well of the US?
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Could be, yeah. Could be a lot.
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Why is that your question?
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They want... Every rich person's told me about it.
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You lunatic. You fucking idiot.
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You wanted to block TikTok. Why did you change your mind?
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(laughs)
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Because I got to use it.
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And remember, TikTok is
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largely about kids, young kids. If China's gonna get information about young kids, I don't know.
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(laughs)
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Holy shit.
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To be honest, I think we have bigger problems than that.
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But, but, you know, when you take a look at telephones that are made in
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China and all the other things that are made in China,
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military equipment made in China, um, TikTok,
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I think TikTok, uh, is not their biggest problem.
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But there's big value in TikTok if it gets approved. If it doesn't get approved, there's no
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value. So, if we create that value, why aren't we entitled to, like, half?
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Yeah, I mean, your building's gonna be useless. It's not worth anything if it's burned down.
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I, I have to say that I think everybody in that room is fucking dumb together.
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I think a lot of them are probably surprised. (laughs)
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Those, those press people-
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I think the rest, maybe some of them are-
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... are fucking stupid.
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... in shock.
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You would have to be a moron to ask any of those questions.
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I d- I actually-
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I apologize for those idiots. I apologize for insulting them-
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I, I actually-
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... but they're fucking stupid.
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... I somewhat think that they're maybe pretty tactically good questions.
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Sure.
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Because he keeps answering them.
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Well-
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You know? Like-
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... what are you gonna do?
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He probably wouldn't have answered some question like, uh-
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(laughs)
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... "How is this any different than a shakedown?" (laughs)
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I bet he would have. I bet he 100% would have.
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But not by reframing it-
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(laughs)
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... and then expressing again that I'm trying to shake down this company. (laughs)
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Ugh. Those are, those are ju- wow. Okay.
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But the, the other thing, too, is I like how he hit a brick wall when he was like,
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"You know, if Chi- it's all, a lot about children, and if China's gonna be trying to get this information-
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That was fucking crazy.
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... about children..." And then the thought just dropped,
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because I think he realized, like, "We should get some of that information." (laughs)
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I mean, yeah, he's essentially going, like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody
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wants that information." 'Cause he almost said, "Eh, you can have information on young people.
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I don't give a shit." And then he was like, "Eh."
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But we want a piece.
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"Yeah, you're right. We want half." Jesus Christ.
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So, during this conversation, uh, the TikTok, uh-
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(laughs) I do appreciate... Again, I do appreciate
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the insanity of people being like, "Okay, so your point to me
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is that China can't have TikTok because they'll spy on us, so your second point is you should both have
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TikTok."
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Well, because Trump, Trump-
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Do you think that's to not spy... Do you guys think you cancel each other out
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so neither of you spy on me, or are both of you just fucking spying on me?
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Trump's like, "We could police it a little bit."
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What?
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Yeah.
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You fucking lunatics.
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So, uh, d- during this conversation-
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Yeah.
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... the executive order about the TikTok sale-
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Yeah.
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... uh, he has signed it.
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Okay. (laughs)
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And so someone asks him, "What did that, what did you just sign?"
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No idea.
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He has no idea.
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No clue.
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What did your TikTok order do, Mr. President?
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Just gave me the right to sell it or close it.
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Essentially with TikTok, I have the right to either sell it
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or close it,
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and we'll make that determination. And we may have to get an approval from China, too. I'm not sure,
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but I'm sure they'll approve it.
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And, uh, if they don't approve it, it would be somewhat of a hostile act, I think.
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But it's good for China if it gets approved.
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Mr. President, so you're not guaranteeing that TikTok will be around after 90 days from today?
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No, but it, it could very well be.
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It makes sense for it to be,
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'cause it's got tremendous value.
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But if we create the value by approving, you know, in other words, that approval gives it tremendous value.
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If that's the case, then we should be entitled to 50% as a country.
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Mr. President-
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You wanna s- You haven't heard that one before, right? That's called a joint venture.
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I've heard that one before.
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(laughs)
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You know you got a lot of value when you got your legs not broken.
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Wow.
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(laughs)
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Just wow.
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We wanna preserve the value of you not having your legs broken.
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I, I-
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So I think that I need 50%.
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I, I think we probably fucked up when we allowed the mafia to talk on TV.
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(laughs)
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That was probably where we fucked up.
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I found this to be shocking.
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(laughs) That's wild.
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Yep.
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Jesus.
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So, uh, throughout this, also the subject of, uh, North Korea comes up-
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(laughs)
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... and, uh-
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Okay, sure.
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... Trump's like, "I like, uh, I like that guy.
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You know, everyone said he was gonna be bad, but I like that guy."
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Yeah.
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"He's got a, he's got a lot of coastline, a lot of beachfront property."
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"I haven't heard him threaten us with nuclear weapons for a while, maybe this is a
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good, maybe this is a good strategy."
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"He's got a lot of condo potential."
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That's true.
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"A lot of resorts could be built in North Korea."
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You know what? Here's a
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guaranteed profit. Uh, build a Trump resort in North Korea. People are forced to go there.
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Hmm.
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Done and done.
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Hey.
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Instant and consistent profit.
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So, uh, that I thought was kind of weird.
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Sure.
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But I didn't pull that clip.
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Yeah.
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But I wanted to bring it up because the subject of Gaza comes up.
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Yeah.
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Uh, someone asks Trump about, uh-
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I bet it's gonna go great.
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Nope. Uh-
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Oh, it doesn't?
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But it als- also seemed to be that Trump thinks that you could build a lot of great resorts there.
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Hey, what are you gonna do?
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How confident are you, Mr. President, that you can keep the ceasefire in Gaza,
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and conclude the three phases of this deal?
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I'm not confident. That's not our war, it's their war. But-
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I apologize.
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... I'm not confident, but I think they're very weakened on the other side.
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Do you support a ceasefire?
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Gaza, boy, I looked at a picture of Gaza. Gaza is,
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is like a massive demolition site, that place is... It's really, uh,
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it's gotta be rebuilt in a different way.
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Do you plan to help with rebuilding Gaza?
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I might.
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You know, Gaza's interesting, it's at-
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It's like an app.
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... location
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on the sea.
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(sighs)
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The best weather. You know, everything's good. It's like,
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some beautiful things could be done with it, but
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it's very interesting-
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It's like, "It was made for me."
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But some fantastic things could be done with Gaza.
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How do you see the future and governance for Gaza?
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Well, it depends. I can't imagine you could have... Well, you certainly can't have the
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people who were there, most of them are dead, by the way, right?
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Huh?
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Most of them are dead.
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Fair.
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But, uh, they didn't exactly run it well.
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Run viciously and badly.
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So you, you can't have that.
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Yikes.
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All right.
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So I don't, I think he doesn't give a shit. (laughs)
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I like that he's honest.
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I guess.
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I appreciate that. I appreciate that, because in, in this regard, you know what? He didn't flatten it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, I guess he was out of office.
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Right.
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But, uh, he-
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It was, uh, somebody else's fault entirely.
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Right. I think it would be, uh, delusional to imagine that it wouldn't have
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been the same or worse had he been in office.
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Sure.
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But, um,
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still, there's a real shittiness to, you know, dealing with the, uh, the people in North Korea who are
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suffering under Kim Jong-un. Uh, as, uh, like, oh, there's a lot of, uh, you know, resort potential.
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Sure.
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And then being sorta like, "Oh, yeah, we can rebuild, uh, up in Gaza. There's a,
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a lot of coastline, great weather."
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Uh, it's just, it's, it's very, it's very strange.
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Yeah. That's, that's no fun.
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He th- thinks a bit like a, uh, guy who-
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I remember Jimmy Carter being like, "Ugh,
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I wish, I wish on a star that I could keep this peanut farm making me
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no money. I wish!"
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Mm-hmm.
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"But alas, my ethics require me to divest myself,
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lest I abuse the office of president for my own gain."
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You know, but the, what we don't talk about, we talk a lot about Jimmy Carter selling his peanut farm.
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Sure.
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But we don't talk about how he launched a peanut coin.
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That is true. That one, I don't think he can live down.
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He did-
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There was the gas crisis and then the pean- peanut coin was a real giveaway.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He started his own peanut-based currency-
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Yeah.
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... that, like,
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was untraceable. (laughs)
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Yeah, they put, they stamped George Washington Carver on each peanut.
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And then his wife launched a peanut coin.
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Wow.
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That was even weirder.
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That was a different, it was a different
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peanut coin. They were, they were cashew coin. It was a completely different coin.
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Right.
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Ha.
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I mean, it was still a nut.
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(laughs)
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I don't know, man.
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Well, I mean, tree nuts are actually, uh, uh, wait, I have no idea what they're
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We are a million miles past acceptable, uh, you know, i- in terms of handling of Gaza.
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Sure.
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And then also just in terms of
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the way that it's so clear that the way Trump's brain is d- like, thinking about and discussing world events-
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Sure.
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... is how he can make a profit off them.
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Yeah.
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It's really fucked up and kind of disgusting, but-
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I mean, it's the second time as president. (laughs)
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Right. No. I, I, hey, look-
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What, what are you gonna do?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You, everybody chose this. (laughs)
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I, I, I, I, I'm, I
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totally agree, uh, with you that, uh-
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(laughs)
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... we should, we, there's no reason to be surprised.
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Yeah, yeah. Surprise is not the reaction here.
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Uh, but it is still fucked up.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
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So, uh, they, they ask Trump about the, uh, like,
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past presidents and has he talked to some of them? And he starts talking nice about Bill Clinton.
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Of course.
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And so I think Chase realizes, "I gotta cut this off."
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Yeah, smart.
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President Trump, you've seen the other living presidents fall, how does-
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"We were both on this flight run by Epstein. It was a great flight."
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... as you guys are calling, wanting to ask for advice-
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"It was the most beautiful flight."
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... about anything that's going on here, which one would you call?
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That's an interesting... Well, I thought Bill Clinton was a very good politician.
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I don't think he was used properly. I think they disrespected him.
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When Hillary was running, he came back and he said, "You know, you better get up to
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Michigan and Wisconsin." You remember that, Peter?
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Every house has a Trump sign on it.
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And they all laughed at him because the Repub-
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I'm not gonna lie, switching to Mint Mobile was a life-
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All right, so Donald Trump is continuing
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to
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sign executive order after executive order,
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thrashing back at questions, uh, from the press in the Oval Office.
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That didn't look like thrashing back. That looked like him saying something
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nice about Bill Clinton, and then we got a Mint Mobile ad pop up, and then, uh-
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Yeah.
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... you (laughs) -
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... cut away.
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Huh. Weird.
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Uh, very strange. Uh, he goes back to it not too long after.
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What's the feed from?
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I don't know.
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I mean, 'cause if it's from, like, Fox News, did they cut away to a Mint Mobile ad?
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I have no idea. I bet it's probably, like, a Rumble channel or something like that.
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Well, that's probably true, yeah. That's a good point.
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They have more ads that... I don't know if Mint Mobile would advertise with them. It must be on YouTube.
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B-
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'Cause I think, like-
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That would make sense.
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... the ads that run on Rumble are all, like,
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so obviously scam.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They're transparently fake companies.
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Yeah, don't even buy gold.
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Yeah.
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We'll give you money if you give us more money.
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(laughs) yeah.
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What?
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Yeah. Here's a gel that makes you lose weight if you put it in your ears. (laughs)
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Yeah, exactly. Okay.
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Oh, shit. No way. Oh, doctors don't want you to know about that one.
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Also, America and, uh, China just wanna co-own TikTok. There's no problem there.
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Mm-hmm.
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What are we doing?
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So, uh, Chase finishes up-
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Yeah.
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... his shift.
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Does an great job.
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And Alex comes back.
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Yeah.
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And by this point, word has spread that Trump is going to pardon the January 6th protesters-
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Gotcha.
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... and rioters-
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Okay.
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... and everybody across the board. And so,
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I mean, that's a fucking great occasion to have a January 6th pardonee on the show.
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That is, that is true.
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I, you'll never be able to guess which one.
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Well, we already interviewed him last week.
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Wait, what?
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Gary Haven,
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and he's the owner of Bigly
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that just so happens to run the alexjonesstore.com,
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and he's a great dad and a father and husband.
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Nate Hughes.
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And we've shown you the footage, we've shown you the trial, we've shown you the documents.
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They're crushing a bunch of people up against the tunnel, they kill a woman right in front of him.
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He does nothing but, in a huge crowd, reach out with his arms trying to
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pull himself up and hope... Touches a police shield.
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They wanna put him in jail for three years,
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end his sentencing.
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So Nate, um, Trump is delivering here, you know, the full
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names haven't been released 'cause there's thousands, but they put the
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supposed worst devils up top.... but we know from all the trials, no
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evidence of sedition conspiracy, no, n- no nothing.
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So undoubtedly, your name is gonna be on there and a few you get missed, they'll be added. Uh,
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but, uh, ho- how does this feel right now as a father of a young baby?
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(laughs)
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Like, I've, I've been in tears on and off all day, right?
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Just hoping that, okay, is he gonna pardon some people? Is it gonna be all? Um, Alex, I'm like over the moon.
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So I'm sure this doesn't need to be said, but Alex is
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100% lying about the video of Nate Hughes from January 6th.
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He's very clearly lunging at and trying to
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steal a cop's riot shield, which is what causes him to lose his balance.
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Sure.
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It wasn't the other way around.
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Well...
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Also, he pled guilty to those charges.
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Yeah.
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Dipshit.
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Yeah, but you know, the, the law stitches you up and makes you
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plead, uh, guilty so you don't get a longer sentence. It makes sense.
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Sure.
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You gotta ple- 98% of cases don't go to trial or something like that.
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Look, I, I think that this is, uh, like-
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(laughs)
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... the pardoning of everybody for this is incredibly fucked up. I think it sends
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a message that is beyond uncautionable, but
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I'm not super positive that someone like Nate Hughes
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going to prison for two years is necessarily n- like, needed,
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based on-
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I mean-
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I, I, I understand that it was the, the sentence that was passed down after he pleaded guilty.
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True.
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So, you know, I, I...
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Yeah.
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I, I'm not in favor of people going to jail
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generally.
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I mean, the, I think the, I think the-
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But-
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... hard part about that is if you think about it as like a, a
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rehabilitation situation, there's really nothing to rehabilitate because
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they're not, uh, like, as long as there's no, uh, Democratic president, they're not gonna riot again.
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Probably not.
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There's no reason to J6 if you've got a dictator.
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No, but they're... yeah. And, and, uh, I mean, if you wanna stretch out rehabilitation to-
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Sure.
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... the broadest fucking thing possible-
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Sure.
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... he has now found a place for himself taking a cut from Alex's online store-
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Perfect.
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... in order to get around the fact that Alex can't own the company. So he's kind of
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in a position where he could be a productive-
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In a, in a situation that maybe you don't want to be the case, this man is a
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w- a pillar of society in his community.
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He's probably not gonna commit crimes.
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Why would he?
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Um, but then in terms of, you know, rehabilitation, in terms of
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recognizing what you did and, and how it was wrong-
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Sure.
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... there's no hope that two years in prison is going to do that.
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No. Well, it wasn't wrong.
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Uh... Well, he... Yeah.
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Yeah, from their point of view.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I, I, I think that it would have been senseless and, and
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kind of-
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It would be a waste of everybody's time and resources
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to keep them in jail for a crime that they don't think is a crime.
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They would consider themselves political prisoners, so yeah.
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Yeah, so on the level of this guy-
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Yeah.
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... I don't know if I have that big of a problem-
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No.
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... with a pardon. I think that the act of pardoning them, though, is wrong.
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Yeah.
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I, I think the end result of him not having to go to jail I don't really care about.
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Sure.
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Like Jake Johnson's gonna get a pardon. I don't really care if he went to pr- jail or not. (laughs)
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Good. Good for him, good for him.
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He's not getting back on Bob's Burgers. (laughs)
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I don't think he's getting back on Bob's Burgers.
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But, uh,
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I, I think that when you get further out, though, and you have people
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like Stewart Rhodes and people like Enrique Tarrio, that
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I think is really fucked up. The idea that they, you know, they did very
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actively plan-
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Sure.
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... doing things that they did.
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Sure.
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Uh, and they are being pardoned. I, I think that that's their danger. And, uh-
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Yeah.
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... not having any Democratic president I don't think
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diminishes the amount of danger that they pose to people.
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If anything, it only increases it.
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I do think so.
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Yeah.
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Because the whole reason- the whole
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thought around January 6th for Stewart Rhodes was that at some point Trump is gonna call us up-
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Yeah.
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... as the rightful militia-
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Yeah.
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... and we will be empowered by the force of the state.
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Yeah.
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I don't w- know why he wouldn't think that even more now.
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Yeah. I mean, that is a consequence of Trump winning.
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Yeah.
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It sucks.
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Yep.
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And it's v- it's very dark.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, but hey, they're not on until later.
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What?
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Not on this episode, but-
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Oh, God.
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... in the next days we are going to be talking about, uh-
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Great.
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... Tarrio and Stewart Rhodes coming onto Alex's show.
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Great.
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Uh, but as far as this episode goes, it is just his
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Alex Jones store guy. Uh-
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Great.
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And so they, they talk a bit about how great Elon Musk is.
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Great.
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Because he is
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awesome. Notably, uh, earlier in the day, um,
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Elon Musk did that Nazi salute thing that might have been a Nazi salute, or maybe not. And then he did it again.
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Sure. Sure.
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Um, that is not mentioned when the topic of how Elon Musk saved free speech comes up. (laughs)
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Funny, funny how that goes.
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Yeah.
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Weird, because that is a great example of free speech in action.
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It, it, it could have used that as a perfect example.
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It would have been a good example, yeah.
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Elon saved free speech-
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Woke is dead.
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... when he spent the billions on X, right? He saved it. And I
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feel like he just saved the election with what he did, because
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it gave everyone a voice. It gave you a voice. It gave, you know, hundreds of other people that were, you know,
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silenced by big tech, it gave them a voice again. And
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I really think that pushed us over the top. And-Well,
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Trump understands-... this is historic for him.They set him up that day.
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They set me up. I was supposed to lead the crowd there, um,
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even before Trump was done speaking, and I was supposed to lead the crowd.
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Hundreds of thousands had already gone there.
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They already started the provocateur stuff with
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Ray Epps and all of them. That's all been confirmed. The feds lied about it. They've been caught.
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And so for me, it's very personal. You were there too.
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Um, they put Owen in prison.
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And
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yeah, a lie went halfway around the world
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before the truth put its pants on, but in the end, the truth won, as Mark Twain said.
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And Mark Twain also said-
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I'm sorry?
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... in the beginning, a patriot's a scarce
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man, hated and feared and scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds,
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then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
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Because you know, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. I messed that quote up.
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Yep.
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But it's, "In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned."
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Yes. That's... It... Who... What was that original quote?
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It was by... I can't remember who it was, but it was a Sunshine Patriot quote. Like,
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everyone wants to be a patriot when you win, when it's cool, when it's fun.
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But when the going gets tough, you really see who the, the real patriots are, right?
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Well, it was, it was George Washington-
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And-
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... in his letters, talked about the Sunshine Patriot-
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Okay.
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... and the Winter Soldier.
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And then it got expanded on from there-
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I see.
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... by other poets and people. But yeah, it's-
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So Mark Twain didn't include the part about the truth winning against the lie-
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(laughs) He did not.
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... once it's taken the time to get its pants or boots on.
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100% did not believe that the truth had a shot to win against the lie.
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No.
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I think Alex is combining Twain's quote with the story of the tortoise and the hare.
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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(laughs)
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If I had to guess, that's what he said.
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Aesop's Fables. We're right back to the beginning.
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Also-
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Free rock.
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... the Sunshine Patriots thing isn't from Washington's letters.
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Sure.
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It's from Thomas Paine's The American Crisis, which starts, quote-
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Ooh.
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"There t- These are the times that try men's souls. The
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summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shirk from
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service of their country." The term winter
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soldier actually didn't come into fashion until the 1970s as the result of the
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Veter- uh, Vietnam Veterans Against the
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War, who sponsored a hearing called the
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Winter Solder- uh, Soldier Investigation. The hearing was meant to highlight war
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crimes carried out by soldiers in Vietnam
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and how the culpability for those crimes lay with the military
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hierarchy and their policies. It wasn't the result of a couple of bad people doing bad things.
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They were arguing that it was the product of a corrupt system.
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John Kerry testified at the hearing, and he described how they'd come up with the term winter soldier
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as a play on Thomas Paine's term summer soldier.
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Sure.
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He said, quote, "We call this investigation the Winter Solder- Soldier Investigation.
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The term winter soldier is a play on the words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot
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and the summertime soldiers who deser- deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.
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We who have come here to Washington have come because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now.
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We could come back to this country, we could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went
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on in Vietnam, but we feel because of, uh, what
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threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not Reds, not the Redcoats, but the crimes
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which we were committing, uh, that threaten it, we have to speak out."... Churchill,
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Benjamin Franklin, they were all just the people who, uh, who did street jokes-
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You know-
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And that, they, they're the, just got remembered.
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I don't think you're wrong. And I'll tell you this, just from our history as comedians, uh,
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in my, in my experience, oftentimes, the pithiest, the ones most clever, the ones most capable,
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uh, not getting laid. Not getting laid at all. Ben Franklin, getting laid.
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Yeah, he was doing some business.
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So I don't think, uh, I don't think he wrote it. Yeah, you're right.
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Hm.
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I think that's the way to go.
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So we, we come to the end of this-
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Mm-hmm.
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... uh, Alex's evening on, uh, the 20th.
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Yeah.
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And there's a little bit of a
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pretty shallow coverage of the, uh, the January 6th pardons.
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Sure.
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There's pretty shallow coverage of the
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exe- exe- executive orders 'cause I think that they don't really know what a lot of them are.
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Sure.
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There's, uh, Trump saying, "Ooh, this is about TikTok."
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Yeah.
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And then signing things.
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Yeah.
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But there's no analysis outside of Chase being wrong about stuff
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and then Alex doing an interview with his January 6th, uh, uh, guy (laughs) -
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Yeah.
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... friend who runs his, his company for him.
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Yeah.
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So I, I, uh, there's also no discussion of, uh, Musk's, uh, uh, salute. And so
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we're gonna come back with another episode-
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Yeah.
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... and get into, uh, the
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subsequent days.
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Sure.
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And see, see how, if Alex, uh-
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How he handled the aftermath, the fallout, if you will-
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Right.
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... of what amounts to a giant nuclear bomb hitting America.
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We ha- we have seen the coverage of it happening.
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Yep.
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Um, and then, uh, the realization of, of some of the details.
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Sure.
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Perhaps will play out in subsequent days.
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It's gonna be great.
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And we'll have Joe Biggs and Enrique Tarrio-
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Great.
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... and Stewart Rhodes-
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Cool.
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All of them making some fun appearances, undoubtedly.
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Awesome.
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Uh, but for now, uh, we
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bid adieu.
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How are you feeling?
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Um,
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booom. You know, they say be bor- i- uh, you know,
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the, the old saying, uh, it's super great to be born in interesting times-
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Jefferson.
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You should love being born in instere- interesting times. Interesting times are great.
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Franklin.
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Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think
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it helps, uh, to know that when that was originally said,
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they didn't have indoor plumbing. So it's a lot easier to be in interesting times these days.
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Sure.
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I'll say that.
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But I bet that someone, you know, whoever first said that-
Unknown Speaker (01:23:46.002)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:46.243)
... probably wasn't living in intering- interesting times.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:48.783)
Oh, I'm pretty sure that the, uh, eh, I believe it was, uh, eh-
Unknown Speaker (01:23:51.823)
They were enjoying-
Unknown Speaker (01:23:52.802)
... Chinese proverb during a time of horrifying, uh, conquest of the entire land.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:58.502)
It, but those times would be interesting.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:00.443)
They would've been very interesting to see, uh, uh, Shi Huangdi walking up to your door.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:05.823)
Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:06.182)
Not a good day.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:06.983)
Probably not.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:07.582)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:08.262)
Um, I think that people who generally say, you know, "May you live in interesting times-"
Unknown Speaker (01:24:12.042)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:12.382)
... they're, they're generally, I think you, you hear it a lot more i- from people who
Unknown Speaker (01:24:17.502)
like the not interesting times.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:19.802)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:20.762)
They're, they're enjoying that.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:21.943)
More, more interested in the boring.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:23.643)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:23.903)
Yeah, uh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:24.422)
Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:24.523)
Like, when nothing's really going on and you're just kinda hanging out. Everybody's going out to the porch.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:28.523)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:29.143)
There's a swing set.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:30.342)
I think that what, what we're experiencing right now and what we're looking
Unknown Speaker (01:24:33.283)
at is a little bit too interesting, you know?
Unknown Speaker (01:24:35.523)
It's, it is-
Unknown Speaker (01:24:36.363)
I, I, I think there's an awareness that, like,
Unknown Speaker (01:24:39.502)
eh, history's not, this isn't gonna be good.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:41.962)
I mean, you know, in the fu- there's a Futurama bit, very first episode, not first episode, but first season.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:48.762)
First season, uh, where this is from when,
Unknown Speaker (01:24:52.882)
uh, or it might not have been the first season. Now I'm, now I'm misattributing it to
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all, to, uh, this is a quote by Ben Franklin.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:58.563)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:58.882)
Uh, but there's all these monuments
Unknown Speaker (01:25:01.262)
from when New York City had a supervillain as mayor, and I
Unknown Speaker (01:25:05.382)
feel like we've, that was, that was shooting too low. We got a supervillain as president.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:11.283)
Yeah, and I really think that... Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:14.823)
I think we're gonna have the real Eiffel Tower here pretty soon.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:17.382)
W- here's, here's what I'm saying.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:19.262)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:20.783)
D- we've gotten to the point where Tucker has been attacked by a demon.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:24.342)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:24.842)
Alex has prophetic dreams.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:26.363)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:27.103)
Trump needs to have telekinesis. We, the g- uh, we have to have an actual supervillain.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:33.443)
That would be nice.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:34.103)
Like, we need a superpower that he has that isn't, like, oh my God, he can eat McDonald's at age 80 and not die.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:40.502)
I mean, maybe he has the power to alter minds, you know? Maybe he has some sort of a, a Professor X kind of power.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:48.582)
He has a-
Unknown Speaker (01:25:48.962)
And that's how we got where we got.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:50.342)
He has the ability to enthrall shitheads.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:52.983)
I mean, what else could explain anything that Chase is saying?
Unknown Speaker (01:25:57.203)
Hmm. Profit motives.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:58.962)
Yeah, there's definitely that.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:00.143)
Yeah, I think it might, uh, it might be a lot simpler than that.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:02.483)
Maybe it, maybe Xavier wa- didn't have any psychic powers at all.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:06.023)
He was just really good at getting those mutant dough. You know what I'm saying?
Unknown Speaker (01:26:09.783)
Get, come to my school. It's a great school. It's the best school. We've got the best-
Unknown Speaker (01:26:13.603)
Professor X has a meme coin for mutants.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:15.842)
(laughs)
Unknown Speaker (01:26:17.082)
That could explain it.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:17.842)
That would explain it, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:18.863)
So we will learn more on our next episode, uh, which may, uh, uh, we'll see when it happens.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:24.643)
Shh. We'll see.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:24.983)
But until then, uh, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:26.422)
Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:28.103)
Yep. Uh, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, Leo, DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:33.443)
Woo, yeah. Woo, yeah, woo.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:36.203)
And now, here comes w- the sex robot.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:38.403)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:42.382)
Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
