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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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saying we are the bad guys
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Hello Alex, I'm a victim, calling in my huge fan
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I love your work
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I love you
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're a couple of dudes who have enjoyed sitting around
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Ooh, it's already begun
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Drinking novelty beverages, we're sticking to the altar of Selene and talking a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed we are, Dan
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Jordan
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Dan
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Jordan
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I have a quick question for you
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What's up?
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What are we doing here today?
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Oh man, no bright spot?
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Ah, I don't know, I don't know if I have a bright spot
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I got a bright spot
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Do you got a bright spot?
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Yeah
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Okay, good
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The look on your face when I mentioned that there was a movie about a haunted whistle
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That is, that was bright
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You were tickly pink
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I could not be happier with that
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We were talking before the show
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Yeah
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And one of the things that came up was there's a movie about a haunted whistle
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Yes
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And you thought it was very funny
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Yes
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And I do too
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And that's something to celebrate
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Yeah
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I mean I guess I have my bright spot
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My bright spot is I love you very much and I'm so grateful
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Mmm
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I'm so grateful
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Sure
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Yep
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That's my bright spot
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Love you too and I'm grateful as well
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Yep
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So anyway, let's not beat around the bush
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I think everybody's kind of put it together by now
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Yep, we're done
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We're-
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Hahahaha
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Let's do it the way- let's go out the way we did at QED
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Let's forget to show up for the banquet
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Hahahaha
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It was not forgetting
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No it wasn't
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It was not knowing
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We did not know that we were getting an award
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We didn't know
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We did- we intentionally didn't go because we thought it was going to be a banquet that we didn't need to go to
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And would be-
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We thought everybody else was getting celebrated
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Yeah
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Um, and instead we were disrespectful
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Hahahaha
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Yeah, but you know, rip the band-aid off
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That wasn't the highest of our moments
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No
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But I thought it was pretty good
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Character consistency, yes
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Hahahaha
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Us being smart and polite and gracious, no
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Ugh, there is- we've done better
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Um, so, uh, yeah
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We're- we are ripping this band-aid off and just not beating around the bush too much
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But we will beat around some bushes here
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Sure, we've reached the close
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Um, it's between you and I
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Yep
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We have kind of mutually taken different paths a little bit to the, uh, mutual decision
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Yes
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That this is, uh, we are not, uh, we're not doing this show anymore
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There may not be productive
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Yeah
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And there may not be, um, a future in it
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Yeah
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That either of us can really deal with
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Yeah
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I think, uh, I think for a lot of people who've been on the internet, obviously they've seen a very personal catalyst happen
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Mm-hmm
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Uh, but I don't think that's where we are right now
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I think where we are at is, like, this is a- this is- we did it
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I feel like I did it
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I feel like we did what we needed to do
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And now the onion is gonna be the next people who take over
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And that's- that's done
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Mm-hmm
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You know?
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I feel good
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Okay
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I mean, not good, but I feel good about it
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Sure
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I, um, I do not feel exactly the same
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Um, I- when you're referring to a personal catalyst
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Mm-hmm
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We were talking, uh, about a video that not everybody who listens to our show saw
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Sure
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But probably a lot of people did, where you had some takes on the onion
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I had some harsh things to say
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Still do
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And I do think that this- that video had a lot of- there's a lot of response to it
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A lot of people had a lot of feelings about it
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Mm-hmm
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I had a lot of feelings about it as well, um, but
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I did believe that it was part of something that we could work through
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Mm-hmm
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That we could, um, come to the other side of
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Yeah
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Uh, but- and so the point that I want to make is that
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Yeah
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For me, that catalyst, people may believe that to be, like, a straw that broke the camel's back
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Mm
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And that's not entirely true
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No, I- no, absolutely not
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The video itself, I don't agree with almost anything you said
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Sure
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Except for the underlying points you were making
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Sure
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I agree with a number of those in terms of, like, righteous passion about, uh, like
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Sure
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Not- things not being fair
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Sure
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Um, but I don't agree with a lot of things that you say
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Yeah
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And we deal with that, uh, as- as we have, you know, through the course of the show
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Yep
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We have dealt with that
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And through discussions that we've had, um, after this and in response to this
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Mm-hmm
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It- it- what's really true is it's more clear that we're not there anymore
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Yeah
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That- it's- we're not at a point where you and I can really work through, uh, some of our greater differences
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Yeah
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And the way that is what made the show interesting and fun
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Yeah
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And to pretend that we can is gonna cause trouble
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And I think that it hurts people
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I mean, they- the thing about comedy duos is that- and this has happened with radio comedy duos for a long time
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Is after a few years, they hate each other's guts
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But then they work together for another 20 years or something like that
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Without ever really speaking to each other
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And I think radio comedy duos or radio duos at all
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A lot of the times have the benefit of being lower stakes
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Mm-hmm
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And the conversations that they're having aren't around things that are really important
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And people can feel, uh, terribly betrayed by, uh, the, like, the- like if you're talking sports
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Who cares?
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Well, people care about sports
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Well, people care about sports, but the universe doesn't care about sports
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It's in a different way than, um, hatred and, uh, lies and misogyny and transphobia
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These things are far more real than, uh, sports fandom
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Mm-hmm
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And more important to people
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So when- when they're kind of- I don't think that we disagree on any of those things
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But they certainly touch on things that we disagree with
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Sure
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And- and when those disagreements touch up on things that are really serious and really matter
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Yeah
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It's-
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Yeah
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It's- you can't just blah blah blah over it, you know?
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No, no
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There's a- there's a core belief con- conflict and, um, I don't think-
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I think a lot of people would like the internet to be the internet
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Where everybody's mad at each other and everybody says, fuck you and I hate you and all that shit
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And, uh, you know, there's- you can have a core disbelief- or a core belief run up against somebody else's core belief
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And it's not a hatred
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Mm-hmm
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It's just not
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I don't- I don't feel any ill will whatsoever
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It's just sometimes you gotta not compromise
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Mm-hmm
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Sometimes you just gotta
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And maybe that's just me
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Sure
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But it's, uh, you know, that's kind of how I feel
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Yeah, and- and to- to whatever extent I have any feeling about that
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It's that, uh, compromise is a complicated thing
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And sometimes it involves actual abandonment of the thing you care about
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And sometimes it doesn't
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And I think that- I think that we would have been able to compromise on a lot more in the past in a productive way
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Yeah
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And, uh, you know, this isn't like a disagreement about, like, you don't like the onion and I- I'm more wishy washy on it
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No
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Which I think on the surface some people could probably get that impression
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Sure
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And I wanna make sure that no one thinks that
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Sure
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Like, um, it's- I- I- I think that, uh, you know, I made my feelings clear
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Yeah
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I think that parodying Alex Jones is a difficult game to play
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I don't know if anyone should but they're the people who are best situated to do it
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And they, you know, have the blessing of the people that are most importantly impacted by this
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There you go
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And, um, I think that because of your very negative and very aggressive response
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People might have mischaracterized or misunderstood where I was coming from
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Yes
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Or what my position was
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Right
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So I wanted to make sure that- that, uh, I expressed that
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Absolutely
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In a conversation with you
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Absolutely
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Um, so yeah, I- I think it's hard, uh, that we're in- we're in a tough spot and, um
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The world's just a different place too
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Yeah
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It's not the same place it was
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It is not
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It's just not
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In some ways the needs of, uh, uh, people are far more severe right now
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Sure
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And in some ways the- I think that- any- like, focusing on this brand of misinformation
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I don't know- I don't know that if it- I don't know if it serves the needs of, uh, those in the world who are most impacted
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Mm-hmm
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You know, it's- you wish- change happens
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It's true
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Whether you like it or not or whether it's something that you plan for or not, it's- change- change just happens
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Yeah, and when we set out to do this show, we had no conception of what it was or what it was going to become
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But I do believe that in our most, uh, basic and, uh, to the ground level of it
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Mm-hmm
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We never were like, we're gonna take Alex Jones down
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Yeah
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Maybe there was a piece of our interest in what we believed to be doing that was crumbling away the edifice of the fake version of himself that a lot of people believe is real
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Yes
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And that's great, and I think we've done a tremendous amount of work on that front
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Yep
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But we never set out to destroy him and-
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Specifically the opposite, your- your initial position has always been like, you know, I'm not here to fucking kill this guy
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I am here to understand
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And I think- I think certainly over time we got more, uh, hey fuck this guy
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Sure, well he earned it
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Yeah
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Yeah
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It was- it was an evolution of, you know, and it makes total sense
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Yeah
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Um, but in terms of, you know, what we held as a point that we were doing
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There's not a failure in not destroying Alex, because I think we all knew that we couldn't
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Sure
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That that wasn't something that was going to happen
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Sure
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And the only way, essentially, to get people to stop believing in Santa Claus is for people to stop believing in Santa Claus
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Yeah
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You can make a thousand podcasts about like, I've been to the North Pole, they're lying
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I swear to you
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Right
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I went to Santa Claus, Indiana, I know what I'm talking about
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Yep
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But eventually the only thing that stops this is people who are drawn to it
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Treating the content and the ideas behind it more reasonably
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And, uh, with a more, you know, it's a- it's a ultimately consumer based
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Like where the- where the work is, is the consumer
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Yep
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And I think we will be- we would be banging that drum repeatedly were we to just continue and follow on with Alex's stuff
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Yep
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Now secondarily, another thing that became a very important piece of this to me through the process of doing
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Was that I realized that there was no central place where you could go to fact check claims that Alex made about himself
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Mhm
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When I started doing this show I had to find hidden RSS feeds that had the old episodes of Alex's show
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That I could go and consult to fact check these things
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Mhm
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And as the process has gone on, there's the KF-
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Absolutely
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You can go through every transcript, so yeah
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Has put together this amazing archive that were that in existence at the time when we started this show
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The show would still have value, but in terms of pointing out the ability of someone to go back and be like
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Wait, is that what he said?
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Yeah
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It is now so easy for people to do that at the Fight Fudgie site
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I think that the point that I could serve as a archivist or as a resource for journalists who want to do a better job
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About understanding Alex in a fuller context, I don't serve a purpose in that way anymore
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And I don't say that in any bitterness or any resentment
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I think that that site has essentially done the most solid work of what I could have aspired to do in terms of making a wiki
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Yeah, absolutely
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And so to me, I think that that is something that has grown out of this and that will live there
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It covers so many other misinformation people
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And so people, whatever entertainment loss there is in us not doing the show anymore
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Real hard, like where the rubber meets the road, facilitating covering this responsibly
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I believe that that mantle is taken care of
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Yeah
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That resource is available for people and that's something that means a lot
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So I want to publicly thank the person who put that together
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Yeah
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Amazing work
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I didn't do it
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I mean, if that had been available, I don't know if the questions that you asked that started the show wouldn't have already been answered
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It would be very easy for me to answer
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Right, so when we started the show, if that had existed, maybe our show wouldn't exist, so who knows?
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But in the process of finding the answer to like, hey, is Alex racist?
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Or, hey, what does he mean about this thing?
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It would have been much easier for us to come to those, like solve those questions
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And I think that the charm of the show, a lot of it involves me digging around in shit and who knows what we'll find
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Absolutely
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And that never would have been something I did if
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You already knew what you were going to find
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I probably would just be able to Google it
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Yeah, you just find it
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Oh, this is what I found, I looked for it
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And that's better, it's a better state of affairs for everyone
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Sure
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Or a better state of affairs in terms of me creating something fun
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Sure
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But, hey, you know, you take the rough with the smooth
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Can't win them all, as they say
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Yeah, so as that has existed, it has, you know, there has been a slight struggle of purpose
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And that's not to say that that website or the person who made it is responsible for me being ableist
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I'm certainly not saying that
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But, you know, there's a, what I can bring academically to Alex has been done
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Someone took that mantle of making an archive and that's there
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I have contributed as much as I can from an analytical perspective of like, this is how these lies work
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And so I do feel, I feel like I have hit sort of that maximum
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And at the same time, from our conversations, I don't think it's unfair for me to say that you don't feel like there's a whole lot more that you can add to this
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What else is there for me to say about Alex Jones?
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Mm-hmm
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You know, it is one of those things where now considering the change he's made that InfoWars is no, you know, we're knowledge fight
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Yeah
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This is fine, so what are we, you know?
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Our name is a joke on a thing that now is not what it was
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Right, and is in a way that's just metaphorically all we need to know, you know?
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It is an interesting kind of brain fuck or something
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Yeah, yeah
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You know, that like, our name is now like a metaphor or a pun on something that is now a parody of something that no longer exists
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I think that puts us way down the rabbit hole
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I don't think we're the mirror, I think we're like the 35th guy looking in the mirror, if you know what I'm saying
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Yeah, and that's strange
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It is strange
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It is strange, I...
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Yeah, yeah, it's hard to imagine things with Alex getting better, you know?
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What does that mean?
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I mean like, it's hard to imagine his sort of like huge resurgence of power and popularity that would require heroic knowledge fighters to rise up and combat, you know?
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Right
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Yeah?
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Yeah, definitely, I think that, and you know, from that standpoint, yeah
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And then from another standpoint, who are we kidding that like he's ever going to say anything that's like really worthy of reconsidering
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Yeah
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Like the point that he's coming from
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You know what guys? I got it
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Right
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Like I know that I've been, I've been probably wrong about a fair number of things over the course of this show
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But I know that his shit is bullshit
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Yep
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And that's not going to change like based on some new piece of information or a document that he finds or whatever, some meme
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Yeah
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You know, like, so I think that the challenge of finding a way that this is interesting
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Yeah
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Also is, I mean sure, it's a new chapter
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Sure
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He's got his new fake business
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Sure
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You know, whatever, but it's just going to be the same
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Yeah, you know, I think
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I'm going to feel real fucking stupid if he starts that painting show
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Oh god, one of the, well we'll start a
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Yeah, we'll start back up
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We'll start a new paint show, yeah, that'll be, that'll be a, we gotta move the brand names, we gotta do the whole thing
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You know what would be great?
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What?
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House painting show, Alex is on a ladder just like
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Oh my god, I saw, every time I see Zombie House flipping on like a guide, I'm like yes! And then it's just, it's just old houses, it's not
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Oh
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I dream of house flipping within a zombie apocalypse
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That's not fair
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That sounds like an amazing show
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Exploitative title that's bullshit
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Bullshit, yeah, it's infuriating
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Cause the zom, like a house can't be a zombie
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It can't be, but what if it was?
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Then it would eat the attics of other houses
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Attics, attics, attics
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Yeah, that's what it would do
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That would be interesting, I would watch that
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The attic is the head of the house
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What if there was a haunted whistle in one of those houses?
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I'm listening
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I think you could get that made
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Clearly
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I think that can be greenlit, yeah
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It's gonna suck if that's a good movie
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Just like the idea of it's fucking dumb, but it's actually good
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Some odd tour, it's actually Charlie Kaufman's follow up to Being John Malkovich
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I'm gonna feel like an asshole
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Watch out for this whistle
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Whistle
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Uh, I hope he's so good if you blow it, you're not supposed to blow it
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You're not, I mean it's haunted obviously
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But if you do, it does the good, the bad, the ugly whistle
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Ooh
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Whistle
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Yep, alright
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So, I think that, I think we've made a point about the way that neither of us really see moving forward on this
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And I don't believe, based on our, you know, some of the fundamental difference that we have
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And some of the, not being really able to work through whatever it is, the tension
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That creates the interesting dynamic between us
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It makes it difficult for us to say, okay, well why don't we try something else
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And so, I don't know exactly like what your plans are
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Or if you have something that you would want to direct people to in the future
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I have some projects that I'm working on and I hope people will check them out
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And we'll go to them, and hopefully they don't suck, we'll see
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But we're not going to be working together in the immediate future
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Not in the immediate future, no
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It's not a hostility, it's not a hate, but it is a
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I mean, at the very least I need a break
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Isn't the best for all parties
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For right now especially, yeah
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Yeah, I mean, I'm still writing, I still, I've published a couple of books
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I'm at thequietpartloud.com, that's my website
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I'll finish another book here by the end of the year I imagine
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So hopefully that'll be good
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Yep
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That's about where we're at
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I have a URL, but I don't have anything on it
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Oh
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But it is showmestateofmind.com
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Okay
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Will be a website where I have things
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And hopefully sooner than later, I think, you know, but yeah, we'll see
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You've told me a little bit of your plans and I'm excited to see them come to fruition
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I think that the directions that I've gone and the things that I find interesting now
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I hope that these are able to capture those in a similar way that the wonder of exploring right-wing media has
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But I'm not sure
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That is not a good sales pitch
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Well, here's what's great
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We had a good run
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We did
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We're not as good a run as you, as anybody has any right to have
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If you say, hey, we're just gonna do an Alex Jones podcast
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That's crazy
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If you say we're gonna do a whole 1130 of those podcasts
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You're absolutely nuts
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Yeah
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And we did it
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This went on far longer than it had any business
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Yep
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In terms of a show
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Yep
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That like, you know, I think it's not telling tales out of school that like
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Most things don't last that long
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They don't
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Most shows don't go 1100 episodes or 9 years
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And that's something that is a pretty fucking weird thing
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It's huge
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And I think a year in, 6 months in, people were like, this isn't gonna last
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It's crazy
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It is crazy
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And we proved them wrong
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And right
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You know, there's, there's, there's, what was the last thing they said?
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There's practically a billion podcasts and now a third of them are AI or whatever, you know
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To, to be, to be number one is ridiculous, but to be up there
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That's fucking amazing
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You know, to be up there, that's tough to do
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Yeah
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And I feel like a little bit of this is patting ourselves on the back, but you know
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Yeah, now is the time to pat ourselves on the, before, no pats, now pats
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On the, on the way out of, you know, whatever space this is and you know, whatever this
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is, yeah, it is, I, I can reflect a little bit of like a
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Hey, pretty cool
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Yeah
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We did a pretty cool thing and I'm glad we did, I don't, I don't regret that aspect of,
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of things at all
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I do think that as we are recording this as a bit of a announcement of our, our, our
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A farewell
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Yeah
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Retirement from this
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Something, yeah
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I do think that it is only right that, first of all, I acknowledge all of the people who
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were such a huge part of, whether it's the actual functioning parts of the show with
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DJ Dan Arkey making the theme
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Oh my God, DJ Dan Arkey
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Angela Lampsbury and all of her designs and all of these things
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Absolutely
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Or if we go the other way to everybody who sent such thoughtful, cool things that decorate
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the office that we record in, it, without both the help of a cool theme song maker
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and things like people who've sent in designs and the emotional ebullience of people who
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express their creativity in a way that's a inside joke around something we've created
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I can't thank you all enough for, for the act of creating those things and sending them
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to us
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Yeah, yeah
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And the way that you've been able to create community around something that is so toxic
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as Alex Jones
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It's something that is so inspiring and I know that just because we are stopping the
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show, I don't feel like I cannot still have some feeling toward the audience and the community
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Yeah, absolutely
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I can't abandon
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Absolutely
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People who have, who have, you know, so much invested
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And so please feel free to email KnowledgeFight at gmail.com
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Of course
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And I will do my damn best to get back to everybody that I can
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I hope it'll be everybody who emails, I don't know, there might be some mean emails and
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that'll be fine
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I don't know, we might be in a button situation my friend
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And I made it through the button situation
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You did, you made it through three button situations
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Yeah, so that's, that's okay
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But I recognize, and I think it's important to express, that stopping the show is something
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that we can make an immediate choice on and do and it is something that everyone who listens
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to the show and it has been part of their life, there's going to be a process to it
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Sure
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And they're going to take the news and feel a certain way about it and it would not be
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right of me to sit here, you know, pat myself on the back and then be like, and good luck
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Yeah
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So I want to make clear that I will not, that's not the way I foresee myself doing this
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, when we were in Portland and I was on side stage right before we had
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gone out and one of the security people came up to me and specifically said, this is one
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of the most kind, and this was the night that I learned what an atmospheric river is
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Yeah
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Which is a river in the sky, that was that night
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It was wet
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Tons of people wound up not being able to make it and the people who did fought their
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way through it and they were still kind
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If anybody could have had a reasonable like, curtness or a bit of annoyance from just surviving
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that long out in the rain, none of them, none of you guys did and it's one of our legacies,
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I think, that will be perfect
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But it's a legacy also that we didn't, like, I don't think that we did
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They grew up around us
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And we were blessed to have drawn in and attracted people and listeners and an audience that
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was that way
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Yep
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That was not interested in fighting, that was not interested in, you know, stupid petty concerns
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Yeah
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And I will be eternally grateful for that and I hope that, I hope that some of you are interested
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in the things that we do in the future, whatever they may be
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Absolutely
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And I hope that, I hope that everyone's fine
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Is there anything front of mind for you, anything else that you feel?
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No, no, the only way I would want to go out is just letting you know how much it means to me,
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how much it has meant to me, how much you mean to me and how much this whole thing is meant
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So, thank you to everybody, that's the way I want to go out
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And thank you for being a part of this ride and to, you know, everyone in the audience
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There are truths that we discovered and found along the way that would not have been possible
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without you humoring us through some bullshit and some times of bullshit
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And that is, you know, in a way that is not like anything else that I've ever done in my career
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or in creative pursuits that I've had, there was an amount of, if people had not encouraged
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and people had not been as solid as they were and as cool as they were
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I think that both of us would have lost interest or not been able to continue as far as we have
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So, thank you and that is definitely the thing that I will, is most important to me of this time
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So, I guess with this we will sign off on this farewell
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We are, we still have our live show that we're doing at the Brothers Roundhouse
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Two Brothers Roundhouse on May 16th
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I mean, it's sold out, so unfortunately anybody who's listening to this is not going to be able to get tickets per se
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And people who have, I don't know, maybe they might be angry and want to burn them
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or maybe they want to come celebrate or something, I don't know
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But there's an element where there's people who've made travel plans and stuff and you can't cancel that
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We're going to do it
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So, we'll be there for a final show
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Yep, that's the plan
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And that will come out on the audio too, so long as someone doesn't screw up the recording
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As long as the recording works, that will come out as a final episode
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But thank you all again and, I don't know, am I the mysterious professor anymore?
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I mean, I think we're Dan and Jordan
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I think that we have reverted to Dan and Jordan, not Jourdan
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No, Dan and Jordan
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No longer is the D in your name capitalized
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We are ourselves, we are individuals
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Yeah, and that journey, hurrah
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But sex robots are still coming
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Absolutely
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I do need to warn everyone that the sex robots are still coming
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And for what will maybe be one of the last times
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work
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I love you
