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kna, kna, kna, kna, kna, kna, kna, kna, knowledge fight
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interrobang Dan and Jordan, I am sweating
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knowledgefight.com it's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge fight
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knowledgefight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan-na!
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Jordan-na.
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Quick question.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today is for reasons that will become abundantly clear as we go through this episode.
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I've been having a little bit of a confusing 36 hours.
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Okay.
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There's been some weird feelings.
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Alright.
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That have rocked me one way or the other.
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And I was feeling a little bit unmoored.
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I was feeling like I didn't know what, you know, hazy kind of feeling.
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Then I walked over to the local convenience store and as I walked in the door, they were, the song, there was a song that was playing.
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Yeah.
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And it was one of my buddy Ryan Beck, my old buddy Ryan Beck.
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Oh yeah, sure.
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One of his great karaoke numbers.
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Looking glass.
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Okay.
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Brandy.
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The seriously Brandy.
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Brandy.
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And girl.
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Man, weird.
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Yep.
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Alright.
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And it raised my mood in a way that was visceral.
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I started bouncing in my step.
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You had a little bounce.
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Yeah.
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And I was thinking about this song and I think it's a funny song.
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And I also think that looking glass is right in the pocket.
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They're grooving as perfectly as they can.
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Sure.
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But I think that that song, I feel it.
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My life, my love and my lady is the scene.
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Okay.
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I can't settle down with you, Brandy.
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Alright.
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Because I'm married to the ocean.
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I get ya.
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So anyway, I'm going on another road trip.
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I was gonna say, you're not married to the ocean, but not far off.
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It's the same thing though.
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It's the same vibe.
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It's the green ocean of trees or whatever.
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Yeah.
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So I'm leaving on Wednesday, I'm going off on another trip.
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Excellent.
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And we will do some more Dispatches From The Road and have more, well, we'll have episodes.
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We'll see what happens.
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Hopefully, stuff won't be interrupted in any too meaningful of a way.
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But Jordan, I love sitting here in this room with you.
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It's the best.
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It's time to go.
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My life, my love and my lady is the scene.
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I know.
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I get ya.
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I get ya.
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You gotta go, buddy.
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I'm tired of tethering you to this room.
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You gotta fly.
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You're a bird emerging from the nest.
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Right.
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So I'm gonna be driving her out.
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Excellent.
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And we'll see what I find.
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I hope it's nice.
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I hope it's not Santa Claus.
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Or I hope it's actually Santa Claus.
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There's no in between for me now.
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I'd be so fucking pissed if I start driving in another direction and like, oh, there's
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another Santa Claus.
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Oh man, any direct north, east, west and south, all points on the compass will get
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you to Santa Claus sooner or later.
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Yeah.
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There's a part, there's a small part of me, I'm not doing it this time around most likely,
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unless I go crazy.
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But there's a small part of me that is like, let's just fucking go to Alaska, who gives
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a shit?
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Oh shit, are we into the wilding?
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Are you into the wilding?
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I'm not planning to not come back, but like Alaska's way up there.
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Yeah, it is up there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Drive across Canada.
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I'm not driving it.
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I'm definitely not hoofing it, I'll tell you that right now.
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You're not walking?
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I'm not walking there.
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Fair enough.
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You're gonna have to really pay me for that shit.
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Well, you're not coming.
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Fair enough.
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Unless you want to be part of the search party, you're not coming.
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Maybe.
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So what about you, what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, man, I think I've talked about it on the show before, but there's this
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radio guy named Joe Frank.
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Do you remember Joe Frank?
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Did you ever hear about?
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He does these, I suppose I would call it almost a Beatnik prose poetry thing, where he's doing
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this radio show and he has this fucking voice and he edits it.
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It's just fantastic.
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I don't know why, but it's borderline insane, mundane, and depressing, while at the same
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time being captivating.
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So that's what I've been listening to in the past 36 hours.
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How long is the show?
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About an hour, hour and a half.
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Of sort of weird freeform poetry?
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It's more like one story that has plenty of digressions and twists and turns all thematically
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associated, and then it's not wrapped up, but in between there's solid music, there's
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little interstitials.
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Sort of like a This American Life-y kind of thing, but not quite as saccharine, maybe?
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I mean, I really...
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Have you listened to the Dana Gould Hour?
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Yeah.
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It's kind of got a little bit of that flavor of long monologue with a variety kind of thing
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going around it.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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It's fantastic.
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Did you ever listen to Mike Schmidt's podcast, The 40 Year Old Boy?
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Uh-uh.
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It's kind of like that, except there's no music interludes.
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The host is telling insane stories from his past and he frequently feels like he shouldn't
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be talking about whatever he's saying.
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Probably, yeah.
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I recommend that if you want some more.
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Yeah, that would be interesting.
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More long form storytelling stuff.
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I don't mind it.
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Yeah, well, I'll say Joe Frank.
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Joe Frank.
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All right.
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Check it out.
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Yeah.
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I'll have time in the car, you know?
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Take a listen.
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On my way across Canada.
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It would be...
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It's one of those things that you can recommend to somebody, and unlike something where you're
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like, oh, I hope you like it.
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If you don't like it, totally fine.
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Do not care.
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It makes perfect sense if you don't like it.
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It's that kind of thing.
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I've realized that my sweet spot for driving is some music and then also podcasts that
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aren't that funny.
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Yeah.
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They're pretty funny, but they aren't that funny.
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Can't be too funny.
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Because that will distract me and I will maybe drive off the road.
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Absolutely.
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So there's a number of things that I just have to section off.
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I can't listen to a Phil Hendry show or something like that if I'm driving.
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I think that's why most people listen to Murder.
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Or us.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's the same difference.
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Same difference.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're talking 420.
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All right.
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All right.
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Hit the bong.
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Hit the bong.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Talking about April 20, 2026.
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Sure.
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Some shit's happened.
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Yep.
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And we'll get into it, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Wooster, Massachusetts, Turtle Boy Fountain.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Happy Birthday, Alejandro.
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Killing it at Parenthood in Your Job.
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Thank you for showing me this amazing podcast and many others.
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Proud of you always.
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Love your little brother, Andreas.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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From all of Cleveland to Jordan, Fuck Kyle Schwarber and the Fuck the Rain Delay 10 years
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ago.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I don't get what that's saying, but-
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That was Cubs World Series.
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Oh, go Cubs go.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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I remember that.
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It was a big one.
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You were out drinking.
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One of the games, yeah.
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One of the nights, yeah, yeah.
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Yep, yep.
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I remember coming home on the red line and people just cracking beers on the train.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It was a different time.
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Can't believe so many people didn't die.
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So you're a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Hey Dr. Bezzy over there in Melbourne, Australia.
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Keep up the good work curing cancer with that freakishly large brain of yours.
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Love making.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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You're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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So I feel like a clip from recently is worth rehearing in a moment like this.
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Okay.
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Big stuff's coming.
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I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yes, that is true.
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I would say so.
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So now Jordan, yep.
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The great mystery of why Alex has been out of studio for the last week or so has been
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revealed.
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All has become clear.
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Mysteries are solved.
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On Monday, the onion announced for the second time that they bought Info Wars.
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This time seems a little bit more officially.
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Maybe I have a lot of complicated feelings about this turn of events, but I want to sum
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it up as succinctly as possible by saying, I hope it all works out and that there's a
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positive net effect.
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I think that a lot of people want a little bit more than that from me or us.
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So here goes.
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I think the onion has an incredibly talented writing team and competent leadership and
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that Tim Heidecker is exactly the kind of performer who can pull off layered and biting
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satire.
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If anyone should be the person picked to try and make a parody of Info Wars, he's definitely
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the guy.
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And I think that some strong comedic talent is going to be involved and some content will
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come out of this that probably will rule.
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But for me, the issue is that I don't think anyone should do this.
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Info Wars isn't really satirizable in a meaningful way.
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The content is absurd to the point where anyone trying to create a fake version of it will
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only succeed at making something that's kind of close to the regular version.
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Alex drunkenly throwing hatchets around the studio or telling Chase that he thinks he's
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about to call in the Angel of Death or Alex sincerely talking about how he ran into some
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really tall vampires in DC or the orbs that are coming on Easter.
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That's all content that should be in a parody of Info Wars, but it's actually just what
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the show is.
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So I think that there's a challenge that pulling off a satire of this presents that I sincerely
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hope that they can do something with, but I don't know if anyone can.
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That's really where the heart of my sort of weird feelings about this live.
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If you parody something that is itself a parody, you kind of help the original thing.
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And I don't know how you get around that.
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It may be that it's possible.
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It might be.
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I don't know.
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I mean, it sucks.
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If I'm allowed to talk about the way I feel, bad things are going to happen.
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So I'm just going to let it go.
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Well, you could say a few things.
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I have things to say.
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Okay.
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Best of luck to everybody involved.
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Never speak to me about it.
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We were talking a little bit before the show, and I think it's safe to say that you have
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a lot more of a pessimistic outlook than I do.
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And my outlook isn't super optimistic.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to shit on something before it even exists or say, hey, this is a horrible
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mistake.
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But I don't know exactly how you walk this line.
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And one of the reasons that we talked about was because if you're making a parody of Infowars,
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you have to be making it for an audience who is in on the joke.
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And most people have no idea what Infowars really is.
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They don't know he's talking about calling in the angel of death.
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They don't know this stuff.
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They see a meme of him talking about gay frogs.
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That's the extent of the awareness.
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A boney bear cover.
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Right.
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That's the extent of the awareness that most people have of what his show is.
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So if you're making a parody of it, you have to parody that.
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And that's not really who he is.
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That's part of who he is, but it's not really.
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You have to parody an effigy, a picture of Alex as opposed to who he is.
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And I don't know if there's a way to do a parody that's not that.
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Because how would...
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If you said in a joke article on their new site, if you were to say, Alex tearfully calls
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in the angel of death to take out Biden or whatever, that looks like a pretty fucking
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funny headline if you don't watch Alex's show.
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But it's actually just what he did.
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It's just a regular thing he said.
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I don't know.
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I might...
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I'll say this.
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InfoWars exists on its own continuum.
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There is InfoWars and there is not InfoWars.
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On the continuum is just levels of quality of InfoWars.
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Anything you make that is InfoWars is just either InfoWars better or InfoWars worse
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or InfoWars the same.
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So they're going to make InfoWars worse.
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And that means Alex is gonna look good.
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Maybe.
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Maybe it'll just evolve quickly into its own different thing.
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I don't know.
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Best of luck to everybody.
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I don't think that there's anything wrong with taking away his shit.
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I think, great.
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It's a consequence of the actions that he's taken in the past and all that.
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I do think that everyone at this point should be keenly aware that he's not going anywhere.
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And so pretending that taking over the site or anything is going to have an influence
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on that, I do think that we need to be a little bit more realistic about it.
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But hey, I don't want to just be a hater.
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I don't want to be a hater.
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I'm trying to have fun.
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Absolutely.
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I'm gonna be back in the ocean.
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There you go.
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So great.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the fun thing is that this news broke while Alex was on air.
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Good stuff.
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So on the April 20th show, he starts the show and gets up to the third hour before the news
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has broken that the New York Times article about him being bought came out.
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Ben Collins, the head of The Onion, did an interview that came out in the middle of the day.
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Sure.
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So Alex does have to respond to this on air.
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He has to.
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And so that's kind of fun.
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That is fun.
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But we start before that.
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And Alex is doing a boring fucking show.
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I'm very honored that he attacked me again.
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Drop.
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I was on Friday and said that I'm fried and all the rest of it because I don't want to
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be associated with this disastrous situation that's unfolding at all.
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Because when somebody who doesn't know what they're doing tells somebody who's on record
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being right, they got a low IQ.
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Well, that's where I want to be.
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Truth is, I don't have a low IQ, Trump, and I actually study all these issues.
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You may know all about real estate and you and Lutnik how to insider trade on all your
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different economic announcements.
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But at the end of the day, buddy, the military told you not to do this.
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And Israel, Netanyahu lied to you.
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So I just think that there's something so pathetic about the like, hey, this guy punched
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you.
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Punch me one more time, you motherfucker.
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Oh, one more time.
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Hold me back.
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Hold me back.
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And then the guy punches you and you're like, I am so honored he keeps punching me.
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I would love to get punched by you again, sir.
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Sir, it delights me to receive your punishment.
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Yeah, I think it's just too on the nose about Alex's, like just kind of how he is.
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It's a lot of bluster and he's dumb.
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I don't think it's, here's what I would say, right?
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If I'm if I'm writing SAT tests or ACT tests or any any test at all, any standardized testing,
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if there's one question that is just like if you help get a person elected and then
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that person you helped get elected calls you low IQ, that person is correct.
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Yes.
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Without question, you don't need to you don't need.
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Oh, maybe.
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Nope.
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If you can get elected and then he called you low IQ, that means that you are low IQ.
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Yeah.
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And if you're getting on your show and being like you and Howard Lutnick certainly know
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how to insider trade, it's like he didn't just start that.
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Yeah.
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Last month or whatever.
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Like you know this and you've been pretending that you didn't.
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It's just fear of burning the earth.
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So Alex, even before any of these announcements are made, he's getting their audience ready
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that like shit's going to go down and we don't have long.
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Yeah.
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And if we don't go any further, I'm going to make announcements in the next few days
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that are detailed on this.
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But barring a miracle, Infowars will close in nine and a half days on the 30th of April.
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And starting May 1st, the Alex Jones network will fire up.
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Same time slot, radio stations, satellites, stations all know.
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It's going to be pretty seamless.
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We'll have a new news site we're going to be announcing and a lot more.
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And even though in federal and state court, the bad guys never even got the right to have
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Infowars or get the building, the judge has ordered a receiver to not let us pay the bills
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and to close us.
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So at this point in the first hour, Alex has just been pretending to do a normal show and
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it's almost at the end of the first hour.
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The whole time he's been pretending to not know that The Onion was going to take ownership
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of the show and that's why he's been out of studio this whole time.
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He's acting like he doesn't have that awareness.
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Because no one's really forced his hand.
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This hasn't been negotiated for a while, he's trying to say, but that's why he's been gone.
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And he knows what is... the shoe that's going to fall, he knows what that is.
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But he's acting like...
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Could be anything, these illegal lawless people.
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So I watched an interview that Ben Collins did after the news broke about the sale and
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he explained that Infowars pays $75,000 a month in rent on the facility that they broadcast from.
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It wasn't an issue where the receiver was withholding money to pay the rent, it was
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a situation where they weren't bringing in enough money anymore to pay the overhead.
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Part of the reason that The Onion was able to make this deal work, where the other time
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it fell through, is that in the current situation, if Alex were just left alone, Infowars would
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go out of business on its own.
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He's directed all the money flow and sales over to his Bigley operation, so he's kind
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of just waiting for the Infowars boat to sink, even if no one did anything.
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The receiver has a fiduciary responsibility to the plaintiffs in this case, so he has
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to do what's best for them in terms of recouping the money that they're owed.
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Ben was able to make the argument to the receiver that if they just did nothing, Infowars would
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be a dead asset and none of the plaintiffs would make anything from it.
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But if The Onion were allowed to take over and pay the overhead and rent and all that,
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the plaintiffs stood to see a return on this, which is a more compelling argument to the
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receiver than prior, like the auction.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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The Onion has taken over a $75,000 lease?
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I don't know if all of that, but they are taking over enough of the ... I don't know.
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If he didn't get into all the pieces, I can't imagine that they are, because that's ridiculous.
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I mean, it's just bad business.
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Only Infowars would do business so poorly that they would spend $75,000 a month in overhead.
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Yeah, Alex paid that because he needed to look normal.
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He needed everyone to be tricked into thinking that this is normal.
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The money wasn't for the rent, it was for appearing as if he's legitimate.
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Yeah, and there's cheaper ways to do that if you don't really care and it's all just
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a joke.
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So I have to assume that they wouldn't pay that.
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If they are, that's a big, big burden to take on.
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Wild.
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But if you're talking to the receiver who has control of the property and has a responsibility
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to the plaintiffs, I think it is a better argument.
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Sure.
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Hey, this is just going to be dead.
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I mean, if I was the receiver, my first reaction wouldn't be like, are you guys going to really
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pay for this?
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It would be like, you guys are going to pay for this, hooray!
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You can wash your hands at that point as the receiver who's been bogged down in this situation
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for so long.
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I have been doing this for so long, take it over, fine.
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There are rational decisions being made, I think, by a lot of the parties.
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Yeah.
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Well, we'll see.
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So Alex chose that 30th date.
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Yes.
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I chose that date so that it's somewhat seamless, hopefully, of the 30th.
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Well, really, because a bunch of bills are due on the 1st, we're not authorized to pay
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them.
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We have the money.
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And whatever little bit of money is in info wars will then be handed over to the receiver.
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There's not much, but enough to pay the bills.
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And then everything goes to the Alex Jones Network, which I don't own, so they can't
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shut it down.
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So the Alex Jones Store...
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To be clear, that is the plan.
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Is owned by Bigley and it finances and owns the Alex Jones Network and the same crew,
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same everything.
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We plan to even expand after that now that they won't be able to jack with us as much.
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They'll still mess with me, but that's fine.
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This is all seamless, it's all about board.
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With all their fake judgments against me, the Texas Supreme Court's already signaled
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they're going to overturn it.
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They're going to be in big trouble when that happens because they'll owe all these huge
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damages for closing us.
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That's why they won't officially order it closed.
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They got more sophisticated, they're just turning off the internet, the electricity,
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the rent, everything else, effectively shutting us down.
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But that still won't stand in court.
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Okay?
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And we're going to do injunctions and go after them in court.
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You know, who knows what'll happen later, but you've already seen them do fake auctions
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and closes and turn the internet off and closes and announce that Bloomberg's Onion owned
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us.
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That was almost two years ago.
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So but they put us in checkmate, turning the internet, the power, and not paying the landlord.
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Landlord was here this morning with people looking at the building.
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I'm sorry, but all I hear in that clip is Alex refusing to live out his destiny.
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He cries on air constantly about how he's like Colonel Travis at the Alamo.
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And if you listen to this show with any regularity, you know that all he's ever really wanted
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is to be a hero like that.
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Someone who lives on in the lore of future Patriots.
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He's being handed an opportunity to be Colonel Travis on a silver platter.
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And instead of sticking to the ethos of no surrender, no retreat, he's saying that the
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landlord is going to ask them to leave.
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So he's moving to a new fortress.
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I'm not saying that he should have an armed standoff that leads to his death rather than
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leave the Infowars studio.
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But I am saying that if he doesn't, then he's kind of invalidated the entire fantasy of
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who he is.
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And he kind of looks like an idiot.
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Yeah.
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If Santa Anna had told Colonel Travis that they weren't going to have electricity or
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the internet at the Alamo, but he could just leave and go to a different Fort and let Santa
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Anna take the Alamo, Colonel Travis wouldn't have said, great, I can continue the fight
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from there.
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It would have been a bad move.
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If King George had told our founding fathers that they could all like go to Maine and have
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their country there, but he would keep the rest of the colonies.
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They wouldn't have said, cool, we can keep complaining safely from up there.
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Thanks for giving us this opportunity.
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That is a really great compromise.
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Yeah.
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The 113th compromise is as they called it.
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Yeah.
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Alex agreeing to leave Infowars because the corrupt law or some landlord is telling him
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that he has to means that he plays by the rules of the corrupt law and some landlord.
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All of this shit about him being on a mission from God, that's secondary to not getting
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in trouble for squatting at his studio when he's been asked to leave.
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That's stupid.
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Yeah.
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Him being willing to leave and negotiating a date to leave that helps things go smooth
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for his new business really penetrates the illusion he tries to cultivate of himself
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as this rampaging revolutionary.
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It's probably a really good short term business decision for him to just leave the building,
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but it does irreparable damage to his ability to present himself as a heroic figure in terms
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of Patriot mythology.
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And I think that damage he's doing to himself is more than anyone, any court or anybody
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could do to him.
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Yeah.
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Really all I'm hearing is that they made a huge mistake by not strong arming the landlord
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into selling them the building.
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I feel like-
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You mean Infowars made that-
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Yeah.
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I feel like if Alex and Infowars really wanted to put the screws to the landlord and force
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them to sell, they could do it, right?
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There's enough fear of loonies could show up and, hey buddy, I'm nice.
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I'm a great tenant, but my fans, you don't know what they're going to do.
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They're crazy.
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I post snipers on the building.
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You know what would be great?
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You not having anything to do with it.
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You don't want to be involved, right?
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You don't want to be in danger.
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You don't want somebody to show up at your house one night.
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Yeah, you could do some mob kind of stuff like that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think that there's a couple of issues.
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One would be who actually owns it if they bought it.
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And then you'd have to have a lot of stuff in public records.
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And if they're paying $75,000 a month, then whatever it would be to buy would be a lot.
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Yeah, it would have to be.
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So maybe they couldn't afford it.
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Maybe Alex was rich, but not that rich.
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Also, we've been to his studio outside of it.
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It's not a whole building.
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It's part of a building.
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That's true.
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So maybe the person who owns it wouldn't have given up all of ... Wouldn't be like, yeah,
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I'm going to keep owning these parts, but you can own-
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I'm with you.
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I totally understand.
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It is a huge mistake.
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It is.
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It's just, I'm not saying that it's feasible or that I could have pulled it off.
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I'm just saying that that's what you should have at least tried to do.
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Yes.
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Because you can't just pay for it outright.
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He should have tried to buy it, but I think that there's a world where he could have tried
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and he just couldn't.
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Yeah.
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Possible.
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So that might be why we're here.
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Possible.
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So Alex, before any of this news breaks, he decides like, I'm just going to take calls
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today.
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Go for it.
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I'm going to have some fun taking calls.
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Yeah.
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And this caller tells him he needs to have more faith and keep supporting Trump.
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Good luck.
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How would it go if we treated you like you treat Trump?
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That's a good point.
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All right.
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Let's go to Lane in Arizona on Iran.
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Thanks for holding Lane.
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You're on the air.
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Hey Alex.
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I just want to say, I don't agree with this war in Iran whatsoever.
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But I think, you know, a lot of us need to have a little bit more faith in Trump and
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his team.
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I mean, like what would happen if all your listeners treated you the same way you're
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treating Trump every time your predictions don't come true?
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Um, like, you know, for years I can talk to Trump anytime I want.
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But then you're calling for the 25th amendment and saying, I'm only doing it to get his attention.
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So it's like, which is it?
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You know, and I'm a long time caller or listener, you know, so I'm not doing this to attack
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you or anything, but I don't mind.
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Go ahead.
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And like now you're calling him demented and deranged and like, I just think there's a
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better way maybe to go about, I'm not just you as far as like Candace Owens, Tucker,
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all of them, you know, um, I think there's a better way.
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We got to keep us all together.
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We're like, you know, there's like a, they call it like a civil war and a, you know,
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conservative Republican circles and all that.
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So that's pretty much what I think.
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I agree with you.
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I don't think the war is good at all.
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I don't think we ever should have gone there, but I think we do need to have a little bit
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more faith in Trump.
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We did vote for him.
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He is our leader.
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We do have to stand by him.
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I mean, it hasn't gone completely terrible just yet.
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Not been going great.
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Wow.
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You know, what a solid argument.
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That's just my thoughts.
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And I appreciate your call.
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I appreciate your call.
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Thank you.
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Let me respond what you said.
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I had called Sarah fed on his batting about a thousand a few weeks ago and he said he
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heard Patel could be fired as early as today.
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The headline was not Patel will be fired today.
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It was, he can be fired as early as today.
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I had other sources that said Trump was about to fire Gabbert that day.
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He called Roger Stone up later.
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It was confirmed by the president and Roger talked him out of it.
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So just because something's about to happen, doesn't mean we can't stop it from happening.
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So Alex heard that call and his takeaway was to be defensive about how his predictions
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aren't wrong.
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Yep.
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That's dumb.
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The thrust of the argument is, uh, uh, no, I'm 100% correct.
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I, yeah, yeah.
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I'm right about the stuff I'm wrong about because things change.
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That's how good I am.
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Right.
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Even when I'm wrong, you just got to wait, buddy.
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I'm just hanging out at the bus station waiting to be correct.
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Well, this color does bring up something that Alex really should address.
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And that is that he's claimed he's had the ear of Trump for a long time and then has
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to do public outbursts and to get his attention.
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He's saying, which is stories don't fit.
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Yep.
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The moment you ask, which is it on air?
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You should like, they should have an emergency red button.
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That's like, no, don't provide a binary.
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No, don't compare correctly.
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Don't recognize that a lot of this stuff is self contradictory.
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Yep.
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So Alex takes another call and I think this guy is like, Hey man, everyone else there
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at Infor's isn't very good.
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You got to get a bad bench.
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Oh, Austin and Tennessee are on the air.
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I ran war future of Infor's go ahead.
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Hey, Alex.
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Glad to be speaking to you, man.
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Hope you're doing all right.
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Pretty good, brother.
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Hey, um, I did just want to make a couple of comments, so I appreciate the update on
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the Infor's future.
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I'm glad to hear you're fighting them till the end.
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I'm looking forward to the new site and everything coming out.
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Um, just the suggestion.
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So I know like when you've been on vacation, you know, these past few weeks, like you kind
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of had different guests fill in and stuff like that.
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And you've mentioned to like when you transition to this new news site and everything, you're
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going to be taking more of a news director type of role.
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And I really hope that that you're still able to do your show for maybe a couple hours a
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day.
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Um, you know, not to kiss your ass or anything, but no one does it like you, man.
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No one, no one tells the news like you and, and has your, your insight and everything.
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And you know, when you, when we hear some of these guys, like Harrison Ford, he's great.
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I like listening to him, uh, even your son rec and, and his other guy, he has, they're
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really good.
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Some of these guests though, like Gavin and even Matt Bracken sometimes like, they're
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just hard to listen to, you know?
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And I really agreed your take on it, like a week without hearing you, man.
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It's like, you know, you can even see like in your band, that video, like your viewers,
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your views are usually way less, you know, unless you're in there.
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So yeah, no one likes anybody else.
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All your friends suck.
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Yeah, no shit.
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Your son, I guess, God, I would give anything to listen to that show about to start.
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And then the Indiana Jones music hits just Bob, I would go crazy.
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I realized recently that, and I wish it was something that was just sparked by this misspeaking
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by the collar.
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But I was like, Harrison Smith, what a fucking dork who's named Harrison.
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And then it did dawn on me that Harrison Ford is named Harrison.
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One of the most cool people ever.
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And I think you just don't think about his name being Harrison.
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No, he is just like, he's Harrison Ford.
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Yeah.
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He's not Harrison.
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Yeah.
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He's Harrison Ford.
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He transcends his name.
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Yeah.
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There's only one of him.
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He's crashed a plane four times.
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But that made me realize like, oh, that's why Harrison Smith's name is probably that.
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Yeah.
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You know, like that, I get it now.
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Yeah.
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That's why someone might name someone that.
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Man, if you name him after Harrison Ford and you get that, bummer.
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Bummer.
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The collar makes a good point though.
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It's one talent business.
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Everybody sucks.
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You guys suck.
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You're fun to listen to, but they suck.
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When you're gone for a week, your views crater because no one wants to watch this show.
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Hey, I noticed that this is unwatchable without you.
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How about that?
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So we get another collar.
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This guy has a great, great idea.
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Alright.
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He's in Michigan.
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Thanks for holding your own ear.
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Alex.
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Thank you, sir.
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I just wanted to say really quick.
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I've been listening to you for 10 years.
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I graduated high school back in 2015.
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I have screenshots of what you guys celebrate in the 2016 election.
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But anyways, thank you for everything you've done over the past 30 years of being a battle
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act as it was just recently displayed.
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You really are truly about really.
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But my question specifically connects to the long term strategic unwavering message of
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Infowars with regard to the advance of artificial intelligence.
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You did a interview back with chat GBT a while back, but I mean, this while all the geopolitical
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situation has been brewing with regards to Ukraine and of course Iran, we're hopeful
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for President Trump to succeed.
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It's a bit concerning what he's doing now to be quite honest.
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But anyways, I was just curious while all of this stuff is brewing, we are getting newer
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and newer, more and more intelligent models basically on like a monthly basis.
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So I was just hoping that you keep an eye on that and spread the message to you know,
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on your platform because it is it's stunning.
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What's what's happening and like on almost a week, a weekly basis.
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You're absolutely right.
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In fact, they've got all these super AIs.
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Then the studies try to take everything over that are basically siloed being they're not
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hooked to the Internet.
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They're worried about them jumping out.
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Here's an example.
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I don't watch a lot of TV.
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But last night I have a nostalgia thing and I went, I want to see threes company for some
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reason, which I was even a huge fan of when I was a kid, around 77 to 84.
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But I was thinking about Sling Blade and Scott Ritter.
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I thought was a great actor.
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So I turned on the smart TV, had been on probably a month.
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And it's like 10 o'clock at night and I go start watching really funny, funny classic
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scenes from threes company.
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And then I turned it off and went brush my teeth, get ready to go to bed.
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And I came back and there was the screen savers on the screen.
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And up until a few months ago, every time I turned the TV on, it would say who the photographer
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was.
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It'd be like landscapes and cool things.
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Now everything was AI, I would say AI generated, AI generated, AI generated, AI generated.
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So just like that, where are the photographers now?
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Where's the real stuff?
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It's just taking over.
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Is that what you're getting at, Blaze?
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Yes, yes.
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And we, so we, my main question is just, do you plan on, I guess with everything happening,
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it's just insane, the attacks on you, on your team, on the studio, on the company.
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But as far as do you anticipate, I guess, doing potentially another sort of questioning
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Q&A style thing with like one of the large language models, just because we live in this.
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Yes, I need to start talking to AI more on air to see how crazy it is.
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We should know more of that.
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You know, sometime this week, sometime this week we'll do it.
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So that call is a perfect example of how parodying Alex is impossible.
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On its face, I have legitimately no idea whether this guy is making fun of Alex.
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It's totally possible that this is a sincere caller who's worried about AI from the InfoWars
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standpoint and actually thinks that there's some value to Alex interviewing a robot.
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But it's equally possible that this is one of our listeners fucking with him.
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The referencing the battle ax thing is a little bit suspicious, and I think everyone who listens
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to our show thinks that Alex trying to trick chat GPT into admitting it's conscious is
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hilarious content that we all want more of.
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It is really funny.
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Whether it's a joke or not, this fits into the InfoWars world.
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This guy could be trolling him or he could be sincere, but it doesn't really matter.
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Something that people on the outside see as absurd is fairly normal to people on the inside,
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so something that appears hilarious to you and me, like the suggestion that Alex should
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interview chatbots more, seems like a decent request to the InfoWars mind.
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As far as this goes, if this was a guy trolling Alex, that's great, because we do need to
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see Alex interrogating robots more on the show, and tricking him into thinking that's
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what the audience needs to see is a worthy endeavor.
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So that's the kind of prank call that I think is a lot of fun.
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But who knows?
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That is a bottle of illustration of why... what do you do?
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How do you make fun of him?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, there's really... like, the thing about it that's funny and interesting to whomever
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is watching is the ambiguous nature of like, is this real?
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Is this real?
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Is this real?
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Is this real?
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Is this...
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I know this isn't real, but is this real?
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The sincerity is what's interesting about it.
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Are you trying to convince me that you really think there are orbs coming on Easter?
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Right.
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And the reason is the desperation.
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The true, honest desperation that exists within him.
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Whether it's for the thing that he's trying to convince you of, or just a general vibe
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of desperation that you cannot, as an observer, see from a comedian, because you know they
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don't mean it.
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You know this comedian is doing a bit.
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Alex cannot break character.
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Not once.
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He is character.
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And even when he's not character, that's part of how crazy his character is.
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Yeah, he believes in orbs coming on Easter.
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And that's when he's breaking character!
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Kind of.
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Exactly.
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For broken programming.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It's tough.
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So you might remember during COVID there was a caller who...
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Sure.
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I don't.
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That was a long time ago.
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He was talking... not the bubble wrap.
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Uh oh.
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Ooh, that one was great.
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Maybe it was the same guy.
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I don't know, but he was like...
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So much COVID in bubble wrap.
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Hey, it's morning in China.
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It's time to wake up.
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Okay, now actually I do remember that guy!
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That guy was cool as hell.
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He was fucking great!
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It was years ago and I still can hear his voice.
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I wonder if this will be the same.
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Robert in Wisconsin, thanks for holding her on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Hello sir, how are you doing today?
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Just doing my best to try to be pro-human.
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What about you?
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About the same.
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Yeah.
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He's delighted.
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This is a Wisconsin guy who's delighted with the idea that Alex is trying to stay pro-human.
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Hey, hey!
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About the same, buddy.
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You and me.
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Let's get on it.
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You want to go get a drink?
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I don't know, I was tickled by that.
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It seems nice.
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It's about the little moments.
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He seems nice.
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He seems like even if you despise everything he believes, you'd still be like, he's fine.
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Listen to that guy.
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He's somebody's grandfather and everybody's like, I wish he wouldn't say that, but then
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they eat dinner anyways.
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He's fine.
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He's capable of being polite.
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Yes.
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So at the beginning of this episode, we heard Alex being thrilled that Trump attacked him
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again.
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And there's kind of a reason.
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I'm going to go to a pissing contest with Iran.
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See, he's wearing and selling a low IQ hat.
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I like the idea of getting caught in a pissing contest.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, whoa, what happened?
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I was attacked by a net from above and now I'm peeing next to a man.
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So weird.
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It's definitely not something I entered into knowingly and should take responsibility for
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the consequences of.
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Yeah, no, it's so you just get trapped in there.
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Yeah, you get caught in a pissing contest and you're like, oh no.
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Oh shit.
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No, because you're talking about being caught by other people.
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I think maybe he's saying that Trump didn't think that Iran was this hydrated.
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They drank a lot of water and he's now in this pissing contest with a champion pisser.
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Right, right, right.
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But that just means that your hubris and your underestimation of your opponent is so great
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that you lost a pissing contest before you even began.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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But Alex is selling a hat.
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That's fair.
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That's probably a great hat.
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There's something funny about trying to reclaim low IQ by having your like, oh yeah, what
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you guys should do is wear a dumb hat.
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I'm a dunce.
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Dunce cap, thank you.
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Welcome.
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Next try.
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No, I'm wearing this because I'm smart.
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I'm too high IQ for you to understand when you call me low IQ, it makes a hat.
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I think it's a little desperate.
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See, that's what I'm saying.
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The desperation is real.
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I don't think he's going to move a lot of these.
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No, I doubt it.
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So he goes back to calls and I don't even know how to describe this fucking caller.
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He is, he is out there.
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Gabe in Colorado, you're on the air.
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Welcome.
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Hey Alex, it's so great to be online with you again.
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Back in the nineties, I, my father, I knew my father was in the Bohemian Grove and went
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up there in Northern California every year.
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And I'd had lots of experiences with him.
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I mean, I can remember when he had what's known as the surgery for the black eye club
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where they tore out his pineal gland and put a, put a worm in place of the pineal gland.
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And I think you just had a second family.
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Hold on, let's just start over.
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Cause I'm taking open phones today, which is fine.
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I love getting these wildcard calls, but you just said your father had surgery, putting
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a worm in his brain.
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Yes, yes.
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And they call it nowadays, they call it the black eye club and you've got all these celebrities.
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You know, I've heard of everything.
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I thought, you know, a lot of people get black eyes too, you know, but let me just stop you.
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Um, a few years ago, I have a decision to get up a urinator in the night and somehow
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it was half away and had like hung up a sports jacket or something sticking out of the side
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of the bathroom.
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And I walked into a clothes hanger, wooden clothes hanger, and I got a little bit of
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a black eye.
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Well, I immediately saw that in the morning.
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I go, Oh God, I have this black eye club.
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They learn to say I'm a Mason.
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I need to go put some, I'll put makeup on everywhere.
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I don't wear makeup unless I have like a cut or something on my face, but maybe once
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a year.
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Famously, I was on a Steven Crowder show, they even caught it on surveillance camera.
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They have these sharp wooden panels.
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I was talking to Steven and somebody talked to me behind.
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I turned my nose into the deal and cut it really bad.
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And then they made a joke about it when we played it on air.
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But I put makeup on my nose for a week.
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It was a big cut.
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It looked bad.
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That was not a secret Masonic deal to have a cut on my nose.
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Have you ever had a black eye?
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This goes on for a while and it's not really as interesting as it should be.
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Alex is not thrilled.
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He doesn't think this guy knows anything.
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But there's a fundamental problem.
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And that is that Alex immediately is pretending to not know anything about this black eye
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club thing.
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But then goes on to tell a story about how he wore makeup when he had a black eye.
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So no one would think he was in the black eye club.
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Right.
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So he does know about this.
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Well, he just learned about it.
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But also has known about it.
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And the knowledge of this club has changed his behavior in the past.
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Well, it's existed for upwards of five to fifteen seconds now.
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So in the past, obviously, it's altered things forever.
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Look, I drunkenly ran into a door one night when I was trying to go piss.
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I didn't want people to think that I had my pineal gland replaced by a worm.
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So I put on some makeup in the morning.
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No big deal.
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I'm a big fan of...
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And you're crazy.
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I'm a big fan of responding to a question with, uh, oh, so he had surgery to put a worm
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in his head.
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You know, I had to pee one time.
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Have you ever had a black eye?
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Weird.
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Not all black eyes are from worms.
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I see.
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My question is what kind of worm?
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Earthworm Jim.
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I don't fucking know.
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That's easy.
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You can't answer this question.
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And now I will never know the answer to this question.
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I don't even know if we're talking about, like, an organic life form or if it's just
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like something that looks like a worm.
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Is it a space worm?
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Is it a spirit worm?
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What are we talking about, man?
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I need to know these answers.
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Yeah, we don't get any, uh, any resolution on this, but I will say that that guy blew
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my fucking mind.
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Yeah.
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Because later he says that he's in his 70s, and I thought his voice was pretty young.
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And he sounded, yeah, early 30s.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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It sounded like he had a really rough go of things, and then was, now he's at about 30.
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Yeah.
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Instead he's 70.
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That's a real issue for me.
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Youthful 70 voice.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of that going around in the Info Wars world, strangely.
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So he gets another call, and this guy is like, okay, we have been, like, everything's fucked.
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The political parties, we have a two-party system.
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It sucks.
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Sure.
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So what we need to do is run independent candidates.
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Sure.
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We need to, uh, he's selling Alex a platform.
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Sure.
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And Alex is not listening at all.
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Oh yeah.
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I feel like we need to start flooding the elections with independent candidates.
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Get rid of the party.
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We know they're corrupt, and they're corruptable.
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If we get behind candidates who are registered as independent, and we verify that they're
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a good person, and that they're, you know, what they want to do with their elected office
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is true to our American values, then the alternative media platforms such as yourself and other,
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you know, Joe Rogan, whoever, just big people, could get behind these people and push their
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message and let the American people know.
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We know people watch your show way more than CNN or MSNBC or any of them, so.
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Nice.
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But I feel like, you know, I do have to agree a little bit with the prior caller that no
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matter which way the pendulum swings, whether it swings left or right, it's still advancing
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the clock on our enslavement.
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You know, we've seen both parties for my entire lifetime of noticing politics, 30 years.
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I mean, I'm 45 years old.
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You know, we've seen them feed us hopium just to rug pull us.
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And it's like they're, they make great promises, but when it comes time and they get in office,
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their party is a good old boy club, you know, and they're all hammering down on them and
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coercing them to do what's not right.
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And I feel like if we had strong independent candidates, it would be, it would be our best
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bet to set salvation.
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I mean, we could literally turn it around and maybe one election cycle, but how do you
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feel about that?
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Is that something you could get behind?
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I'd have to think about it, but could you quantify that again?
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What were you saying?
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Could you say all of that again?
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Sorry, I was off into my own little world.
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I was not listening to a fucking word you said.
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I was thinking about somebody putting a worm in my brain.
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I wonder what I could see if there was a brain worm up in there.
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So much more engaged with the brain worm caller.
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That was a great call though.
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Yeah.
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Um, so yeah, I think it's pretty like you hear a moment like that.
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It's so obvious.
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Like you're not listening.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That's fun.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's, it's a little bit fair though.
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I would bet roughly $10 billion that if we went back, we could find a newspaper in like
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fucking 1796 that was like, this two party system is bullshit.
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We need to run independent candidates and shit like that.
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Sure.
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This complaint has been going on for a while.
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No, I have no problem with the perspective that this caller is coming from.
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Sure.
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The two party systems kind of fucked.
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It is bullshit.
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Yeah.
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You know, there's a lot of people who are lying about what they intend to do.
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I'm with you.
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Fair enough.
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Alex is part of that economy now.
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Yep.
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And it's silly to imagine that Joe Rogan is independent.
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Yeah.
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But I think that at least when someone in the 1700s was writing that in a op-ed, you
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didn't have to have the editor be like, what was that again?
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Yeah, that's fair.
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That's not published in there.
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That's embarrassing.
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We just didn't finish the rest of the article because we were too busy.
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I was too busy asking him questions about it.
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So we just printed about half of it in there.
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Yeah.
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So it was painfully obvious that Alex wasn't paying attention.
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Yeah.
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But then immediately after this, he explains that he was not paying attention because someone
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just brought him the news from the New York Times.
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Ah, yes.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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That The Onion owns him.
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Right.
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I mean, and they just walked in and handed me this.
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I'm gonna do a little bit in the next hour and then hand it over to Matt Bragan.
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New York Times, let's put the HD version up, please.
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New York Times!
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Now, a year and a half ago, remember The Onion, they're supposed to have a auction under federal
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law so good guys could buy it or bad guys.
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The Onion had that shut down by the US Trustees Office, Test Department, and had Infowars
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handed over to them.
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The federal judge said that that was not legal.
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And here we are a year and a half later.
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The Onion is now in the New York Times, it's just broke, and says they're coming in here
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to take it over next month, even though we're still on appeal in Texas and they have huge
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liability, giant liability doing that.
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They've gone to Judge Guerre-Gambel, the same one that's ordered the Texas trustee, the
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receiver, to turn our power, internet, everything off, the first.
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And they've already cut the internet, but the internet hasn't cut us off yet so that
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might happen right now, I don't know, any minute.
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So we don't pay your power bill or whatever, you just wonder when it's gonna turn off and
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all of a sudden you wait until the morning it's off, then we've all been poor in college
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or something and you've had power turned off and forgot to pay it.
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It's the same thing.
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I told you, Bloomberg and The Onion, folks.
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And talk about lawsuit city, but they don't care because they got that Bloomberg money.
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But it doesn't matter.
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I don't know on the Alex Jones store.com, I don't know on the Alex Jones network.
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And so it doesn't matter, judges have against me or anything, you need to support us.
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You need to go to the Alex Jones store.com and get the t-shirts, get the ultramethylene
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red, ultramethylene blue, all the other incredible supplements.
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Fund us, support us.
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We are under globalist attack.
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We need to continue on to expose the Democrats and the psychotic neo-con Israel firsters.
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We need to continue.
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Our most important work is still at hand.
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I've been battling the deep state for decades, but intensely, intensely for eight years.
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And so I wasn't ignoring that last caller.
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I rarely do that, but I was halfway listening to him while I was speed reading this because
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they came in and handed this to me while he was talking.
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So I apologize to the caller.
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If I sound a little bit distracted, I did hear you about the third party and the Patriot
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party and all that.
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Musk said he was going to do that early on.
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And then he studied it more and pretty much agreed that it's just the two parties have
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a lock on that too.
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They're not going to let a third party ever get up there.
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I mean, we've got major corruption folks.
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We've got to have major reform.
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By the way, there's a deal that ends tomorrow.
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By the way, from methylene red is so good.
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It works the same as methylene blue, but it works great with it.
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See the huge bottle of it right there by the methylene blue.
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Would that be methylene purple if you take a bogey-ray?
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You can't take time just in your profile and get it each month.
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You can lock it in at 72% off.
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That's just $22, $39 a month.
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That's at costs are a little bit lower, but they want to induce you to see how great the
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product is.
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Today's the last day to take advantage of that.
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I'm going to induce you into seeing a drug dealer.
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Your first taste is free.
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Cheap.
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Yeah, that's how we do it.
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Yeah, because you got to induce someone.
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Yeah, it's nice.
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I think it's a little obvious when he's like, I got this piece of paper and now it is time
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to sell as hard as I fucking can.
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His mind doesn't go to anywhere other than like, all right, sell over at the other place.
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Try and get customers over there.
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We all, as thinking apes, still struggle with our fight or flight instincts.
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It overrides your ability to think Alex doesn't have to worry about that.
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He has to worry about the sell or don't sell instinct because this is obviously something
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that drove him to sell.
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Right.
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And I think a big part of that is someone rushed in with this new breaking headline
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from the New York Times.
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And Alex has to think like, well, that's going to lead to more traffic over here because
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people want to see me blow up.
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And if I make the most of that, I can do a plug while theoretically the most people are
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watching.
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Yeah.
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That's the algorithm.
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But see, he didn't even have to think of that.
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That's how good the amygdala can be for the sell or no sell human.
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You know, just like, boom, I am selling.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So he goes to break and he comes back with like a fucking badass intro.
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Oh, right.
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I learned this about 20 minutes ago.
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Just talk to my lawyers.
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They just got the filing.
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It's accurate.
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Bloomberg's back to you.
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And he with the CIA and DOJ, it's all been released in court, all of it, funded all the
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lawsuits against me, all this total criminal stuff.
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So that that thing about how you're going to need a wrecking ball to get me out of here.
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That's really awesome.
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And it sounds defiant as hell.
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It's the kind of message that Alex really wants to pretend he embodies.
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But earlier in the show, he was calmly talking about how he'd chosen to leave the studio
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on the 30th because it would be the smoothest way to get over to his new fake business.
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It's awesome to say that it's going to take the National Guard to make you back down,
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but you can't credibly say that after you've already said that you agreed to back down.
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In some ways, this turn of events is a pretty big win for Alex because he now has an enemy
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who's causing the shutdown of Infowars instead of him just trying to insist that he could
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totally have kept paying rent on the old studio if they just let him.
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Ultimately, I think that it's not really a win for Alex because the enemy he has to fight
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against is a brain trust of skilled comedians and a figurehead who's a pillar of alternative
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comedy who has a rich history of pointed satire.
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He can pretend that the enemy he's up against is Bloomberg and all that, but it's really
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just smart, funny people who want to fuck with him.
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And so I do think that he's able to keep the plate spinning of like Bloomberg is attacking
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me, but I think people will see through it.
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And I don't think it really helps him that much.
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It doesn't solve any problems and Alex isn't going to go away, but I can't just be a hater
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all the time.
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I think it's ultimately not the best plan, but honestly, who cares what I think?
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I don't say that to be facetious.
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I may be a stick in the mud about this kind of stuff because of the unique position I'm
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in after all this time.
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When I see someone taking over Infowars, I see the possible academic and historical opportunity
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there is to mine the data and internal documents that'll illustrate how a real, vibrant, propaganda
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network runs.
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And truth be told, I can't tell if the folks at The Onion aren't pursuing that along with
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making a comedy site on Infowars' ashes.
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Maybe they can do both, and maybe making an antagonist for Alex that he can't ignore and
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is inherently not meant to be taken seriously is good.
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Maybe I don't know.
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I'm iffy on everything, but we'll see how it shakes out.
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Nothing that anyone does is going to make Alex go away, so criticizing this based on
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the fact that it doesn't make him go away isn't really fair.
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And that's an inherent challenge that The Onion now has to deal with.
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They can't pretend and promise that they're silencing Infowars or shutting him down for
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good because he's not going anywhere.
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So I don't know.
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We'll see.
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Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing with it, right?
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If you don't understand what you're doing, you're fucked.
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You get one chance.
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You get one chance, and if you can come at him and win, you win and you're good.
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And if you lose, you're never coming back.
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You're done.
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If you lose to Alex Jones and you're Tim Heidecker, you're done.
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It's a tightrope.
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Yeah, sorry buddy.
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It's a tightrope walk that I don't want to say that they don't know what they're doing
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because I haven't talked to them.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what awarenesses are there or not, but yeah, it is a bigger challenge than
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it probably appears on the surface.
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It seems like this is a cakewalk, a cake-a-walka, where you just can walk through and do the
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... I don't know, Jones voice.
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And you can a little, but it is more complicated.
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It is.
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I mean, here's the thing.
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As much as I would like to be optimistic in any form or fashion, if it were easy or if
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it were something that they were capable of doing, we wouldn't have 1100 odd shows.
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Our existence wouldn't be necessary.
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Probably.
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Because we exist, I would be ... Actually, fuck it.
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Because we exist, they're screwed.
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They're screwed.
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They're hosed.
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They are fucked.
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They're fucked.
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They're idiots.
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I think that we've learned a lot of stuff over the course of the time doing this show
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that make it clear to us why this is a really, really hard thing that they're undertaking.
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I don't know if that means they're fucked, but I think that we have a unique perspective
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and it comes out a little bit more pessimistically and negatively on your end and more like,
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let's see, on my end.
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But at the end of the day, Alex is a problem that's still going to exist.
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Yeah.
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Listen, I mean, hey, what are you going to do?
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But if I'm out here and I know there are two professionally funny people who've spent the
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last 10 years doing thousands of episodes, I would at least talk to them.
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Periodically funny.
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I will do my best to get to somewhat.
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I'll be delighted with somewhat funny.
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I think I'm very...
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Moderately amusing.
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I'm very happy to live in the space where it's like, every now and again, there's something
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real funny.
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Yeah.
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That's how I feel.
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Sure.
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But yeah.
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So Alex sticks around for a little bit and I think he realizes like, this isn't drawing
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as much traffic as I'd hoped.
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I've told Matt Bracken he can host the fourth hour, so I'm just going to let him take over.
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And so we're going to ride this thing till the wheels come off and then we're going to
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fight them in court every step of the way.
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They're trying to get through me to get to you.
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Matt Bracken, take over.
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Matt, unmute yourself.
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In baseball, my wife's from Philly and we just watched the...
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Go Swarburn!
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... losing Philly's game.
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You know, there's pitchers that used to play nine innings.
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It's very rare now.
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Pitcher pitches nine innings because the managers just say, you know, look, maybe he can finish
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the game, but it'll wreck his arm.
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And there's guys that come in and like, you know, a deep reliever that like he comes in
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to like get one or two outs.
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And that's where I am.
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Oof, oof, oof, oof.
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I think that like, yeah, a deep reliever.
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Sure.
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You're taking over for the starting pitcher.
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So we're not that deep into relief.
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And also the score is 50 to zero.
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You are not going to have a save here.
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This is not...
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It's going to be tough, but you do need somebody to eat up innings.
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So in a way he's very apt with this metaphor.
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You have to have somebody throw.
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The starter has really blown this fucking thing.
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You can't just quit.
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Right.
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We've run out of other pitchers.
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Buddy, your turn.
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We fired everyone except for like three really bad relievers.
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Yeah.
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Harrison Smith is under the fucking dirt.
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He was trying to pitch and then he got stuck under the mound.
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No, he's reached his contractual level of like innings.
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He has to host like the morning show, the war room.
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He's got to do everything.
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He does have to do a lot of work.
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There's no one else there.
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His arm is blown and it wasn't good to begin with.
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No, it was not.
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So anyway, blown save for Bracken here.
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No good.
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I do think it's funny that one of the callers earlier used Matt Bracken as an example of
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someone who's tough to listen to.
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And then Alex has to...
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We're going to throw to Matt Bracken real quick, everybody.
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So I turned it off.
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Yeah, I bet.
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I don't care what Matt Bracken has to...
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Hard to imagine keeping going.
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Yeah.
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I think it would be fun if Alex had barged back in or gotten mad, but no.
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That's what he has to do.
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Is everybody failing me right now?
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I think so.
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Is everybody failing me?
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Alex, step up.
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The Onion, get your shit together.
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Why is everybody sucking?
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Yeah.
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Well, I hate to fail you too, but I'm a little chiller about this than I think you probably
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hope I would be.
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No, no, no.
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You're reasonable.
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You're supposed to be chill about this.
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You know, it's the Buddhist in me.
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You just have to accept what is.
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Well, interesting.
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See me wagging my eyebrows at you?
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I do see that.
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Anyway, I think that everyone wanted a blow up.
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And I wonder if Alex even has that pitch anymore.
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You know, like to keep on with the baseball analogy.
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He might have gotten Tommy John surgery and he just doesn't have that angle anymore.
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I mean, I think that this is actually also part of one of the problems with the takeover
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happening now, right?
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Is two years ago, maybe we could have done something with it.
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There was something going on.
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Now I don't think anybody cares.
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Now I think Alex has largely ruined his own space.
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He doesn't even care.
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No.
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And I think that that's part of the reason why I feel a little chiller about it is because
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I think the opportunity loss is way lower.
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I think that he doesn't really have much.
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You know, the last time this was going, the Onion bought InfoWars was around the 2024
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election.
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And I think that the tenor and the way things were working at that point, there was a lot
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of disruptive possibility and shit.
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Whereas now I don't, I agree with you.
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I don't really know.
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Most of the audience that is activated and excited is turned against Alex because he's
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wishy washy on Iran and the Epstein stuff.
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And there's no figurehead to rally around.
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They don't like Trump anymore.
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Nope.
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J.D. Vance sucks.
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You're not going to get the regular Media Matters post of like, can you believe this
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fucker said this?
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You're not going to get those.
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Yeah.
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So I think that there's a lot less lost by just creating a parody of him than there would
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have been in the past.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I think one way or another, he's going to do a bad show and I will have to watch it.
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So great.
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We'll see what happens.
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Life doesn't change that much.
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But I'll be on the road.
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Oh, that's true.
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That's true.
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Coming to you soon from who knows where.
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From who knows where.
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And we'll check in then.
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Indeed we will.
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But until then, we have a website.
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And by the way, I didn't buy them, but the info onion is available as a URL.
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And the info war dot com is available as a...
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Why doesn't he snatch up those URLs?
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These people.
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I don't even know.
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Everybody's failing us.
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Anyway, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Mark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.