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N-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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Knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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That'll hurt, that'll hurt, that'll hurt.
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I need, I need money.
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That'll hurt, that'll hurt, that'll hurt.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan, quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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No time for bright spots.
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No time.
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My bright spot is baked into this episode.
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Gotcha, gotcha.
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We had, we are recording on Saturday instead of Sunday.
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It is intense.
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We had to convene the Conclave.
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Move it up.
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The podcast bishops.
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In order, I don't know.
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I don't know, alright.
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The white smoke, let's just say the white smoke.
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Something happened after we recorded, or during, and after when we recorded our last episode.
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Oh that's how we do it.
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And we're walking a tightrope of you not finding out about this thing.
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And so my bright spot is that we managed to preserve the integrity of what we're doing
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here.
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There was one hour, there was one hour where it all could have fallen apart.
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Because I left here and then almost an hour later you were like, stay off the internet.
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I didn't say that.
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Do you know what's happening?
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Or you asked me do you know what happened?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Something along those lines.
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And I was like, well, obviously no.
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This is gonna be a problem.
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So I have just been off the internet for the past two days.
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I haven't looked at anything, I haven't touched anything.
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I think I've been fucking with you a little bit about like, oh my god, are you sure you
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don't know?
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You have to have heard this.
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If I knew what it was I would know, but I don't know.
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And you know, it's kind of been good.
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It's been good to be off the internet.
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I've liked it.
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Yeah, so it's a bright spot for you too.
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It is nice, it is nice.
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But I'm so excited.
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A long time since I've been like, god I can't wait to see what Jordan says about this.
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I can sense it.
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I can feel it in your heart.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot, my man is tennis.
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Oh.
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Tennis!
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Nice.
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Do you watch a Ridley Scott interview and cry?
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No, but I would have if I had heard my own soul reflected so clearly.
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No, first final of the year starring both Sinner and Alcarez.
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Tomorrow morning, it's going down.
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Wow.
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In Monte Carlo and the ranking, the world number one ranking is on the line.
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Holy shit.
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It is a big deal.
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The stakes.
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It is huge.
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It's going to be very enjoyable.
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Well I'm glad that the two of them are locked in their death battle.
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Forever and ever until one of them dies.
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It's interesting that tennis just does that.
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It seems to constantly create that.
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But hey, it's exciting and I'm pumped for you.
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Greatness demands challenge, right?
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You know you've picked such an interesting sport that it's like constantly on in the
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middle of the night or like early in the morning because it's in other countries.
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It's around the world, yeah, it's all over the place.
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It's such an interesting choice as opposed to like baseball and football that are on
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like normal human hours.
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Ready to watch whenever you are.
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It reminds me of back when I was doing standup, there were a lot of people who were like really
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into wrestling and like Japanese pay per views would be on at all hours of the day.
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They'd be like, oh I was up at two to watch the Japanese.
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We had a couple of friends like that with football.
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It was European time, soccer football.
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You go to Galway Bay at 10 AM, you're going to have yourself a day.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Not a long one, but it'll be a day.
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It'll be a day.
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So Jordan, today we've got this episode.
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Holy shit.
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We're going to be talking about April 9th and 10th.
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Two episodes.
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Oh yeah.
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All right, okay.
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It's such a ride.
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Okay.
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I can't wait.
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I can't fucking wait.
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Okay, okay.
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Let's get to it.
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Let's take a little moment to say hello.
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Oh my God, the suspense.
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So first, my nickname in college was Big Balls, but not for the reason you might think.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, I played bass in a progressive rock band until one day the front man went on a
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rant about George Soros and the World Economic Forum and how they're using Disney movies
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to brainwash everyone into being socialist feminists.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Geddy Lee is fucking annoying.
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Yeah, that is how the band broke up.
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Yep.
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Next, Pukey Pukey, me and Huey drank all the liquid death.
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Nae Ho, Loopy, Cucco.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Tugai.
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The last five years with you have been a wild ride right down to our weekly ritual of listening
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to Knowledge Fight together.
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You make me the happiest deep state globalist in the New World Order by being my non-binary
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adrenochrome guzzling partner in crime.
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Love, Chelsea.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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You're a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Um, so we had an out of context drop.
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All right.
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But it's kind of, I don't know.
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I feel like this is just teasing more.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Don't do war crimes, bro.
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Cool.
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Don't do that's good advice for all of us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Again, this is like, Trump doesn't want to be a weenie forever.
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Do war crimes, bro.
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That's, that's something that you can really only say in 2026 back in the day, you know,
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you would get that in a long letter, you know, like the king of, of Spain would send a letter
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to the king of Russia and be like, but at the end of the day, don't do war crimes, bro.
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Come on, bro.
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Come on, bro.
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Um, I had very much intended like, we're going to take it as slow.
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Alex is having his like falling away from Trump.
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Yeah.
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Um, but there's just, let's savor it.
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Well, I was intending to, we're going to go day by day through this.
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How does Alex respond to the, uh, we're going to wipe out your civilization comments.
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It's an autopsy specific enough, but we can't have to get to this.
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Let's get to the meat.
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So, uh, Alex comes on his show on April 9th and is telling a story basically that Trump
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had said, I'm going to murder everyone in Iran.
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And uh, then he was like, talked out of it and he was like, Oh, he came to his senses.
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And basically Alex was a part of that.
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I'm not a prideful person.
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I don't like thinking about how great I am.
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It's the opposite.
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I know my limitations, more power.
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You really get more dangerous to realize it is, but I do get satisfaction without even
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looking around.
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I've seen Mark Levin and all the neocons attack me on national news online saying Jones and
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Tucker Carlson at MTG, they got Trump to pull back from total war.
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This is absolutely horrible.
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These people are big traders.
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They're enemies.
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Yeah.
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They don't want us putting pressure on Trump because it works.
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And he just came out today and said, no nuclear weapons will be used in Iran when he promises
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it's stronger than anyone has ever seen strikes.
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If they back out of these deals.
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So as a brief recap of what's happened here, Trump posted a deadline for Iran to open the
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Strait of Hormuz on truth, a truth social, putting it at 8 PM Eastern on Tuesday as that
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date grew closer and Iran said no and made fun of his threats.
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Trump escalated the online rhetoric to the point where he said on Tuesday, quote, a whole
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civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
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I don't want that to happen, but it probably will.
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Sure.
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Obviously everyone interpreted that as a very clear threat that Trump intended to make and
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acted shocked by how weirdly nothing happened.
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Yeah.
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Everyone was, I don't know anyone who's not confused by like, uh, I, I, Hey, listen, I,
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I think we made a huge mistake electing and appointing nothing but cowards to the government
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and now we're all fucked because of it.
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At least not enough not to coward.
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Yeah.
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Trump used the social media company that he owns to post a threat to kill an entire civilization,
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speaking as our representative to the world.
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And as far as I can tell, nobody did anything.
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No spies or snipers took him out.
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His cabinet didn't invoke the 25th amendment to remove him from office.
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This is just behavior.
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That's fine now.
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I mean, Hey, I, I, you know, Hey, what you're going to do?
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What you're going to do?
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Let's escalate everything to nuclear war.
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It's a mess.
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Let's escalate.
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Oh my God.
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I'm talking tax by five cents.
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Fuck you.
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I'll bomb your whole civilization to nothing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The talkers were talking about this, you know, like no one was really doing anything, but
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the talkers were talking and most of the talk was bad.
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Yeah.
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It's really hard to justify someone saying something like this because it's literally
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threatening to commit genocide if you don't get your way.
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Yeah.
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Alex is in this tough situation where he knows he can't support or justify the things Trump
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is doing, but he's not able to just be a man and go against him.
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He can say critical things about Trump, but he refuses to speak freely because of an obsession
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with winning the midterm elections.
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There's a sense that Alex has converted to electoralism and become a bit of a normie.
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Even if he likes to spend his time talking about orbs with dipshits like dark journalist
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orbs.
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Now that he's gotten into a pattern of yelling and crying at the audience about how Republicans
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have to win everything or else the world is going to end to the point where he was a key
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part of trying to overthrow the 2020 election because they lost.
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They can't really go back to the days when elections were all theater and it didn't matter
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who won.
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The reason for that is because the second that becomes Alex's story again, his fans
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might start considering the possibility that 2016, 2020 and 2024, those were theater too.
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If they start to realize that, it's a very quick walk to realizing that Alex was part
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of that theater.
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Never going to happen.
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So Alex tries to tread water in this idiotic space where everyone knows he should be burning
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Trump, but he holds back for the sake of some kind of imagined congressional victory
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in the midterms.
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He wants it to come off like some kind of ability on his part to see the big picture,
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but it's really just indicative of his descent into partisan hackery.
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Trump threatened to nuke Iran and then about two hours before the deadline, he pretended
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to accept a ceasefire deal for two weeks that was brokered by Pakistan.
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Everyone knows the deal is bullshit, but this really highlights something that I think is
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super dangerous and we need to take seriously.
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We all know Trump making this deal is bullshit, but we all also know that it's a good thing
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he agreed to that fake deal, because the alternative is dropping nukes on people.
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We don't want a nuclear war, and it feels like the best way to not have one is to go
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ahead and pretend that the great deal maker made a great deal that avoided so much unnecessary
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death.
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On some level, this is training the public that it's best to just humor Trump and pretend
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the emperor has great new clothes because if you don't, 8pm eastern might roll around
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and his pride demands that he kill a lot of people.
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This is a sort of standard abuser-bully type of thing where Trump has clearly demonstrated
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his willingness to kill and to violate constitutional and international laws, so we don't know what
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he's capable of.
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His threats might be empty, but they can never be taken as such because the stakes are so
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high and he knows that.
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If he threatens to do something that would essentially end the modern world and then
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he makes a fake deal to stop it at the last minute, the real effect of that is that he's
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demanding everyone thank him for avoiding the end of the world.
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Anyway, he didn't say that he wouldn't use nukes.
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Alex is misinterpreting Trump saying, quote, no nuclear weapons after he was asked what
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an acceptable deal with Iran would look like.
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He was saying that Iran would get no nuclear weapon.
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Ah, okay.
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And Alex is desperate to pretend Trump changed courses, so he's yelling at his audience and
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saying that Trump committed to not using nukes.
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Basically, this is Alex playing his role in the abuser-bully dynamic.
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Trump has just lashed out at the public and is demanding everyone praise him for stopping
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before he nuked the world.
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Alex is now getting on his show and praising Trump for stopping before he nuked Iran and
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also trying to pretend that his actions were critical to bringing Trump to his senses,
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effectively demanding that the audience play the same role in his narcissism cycle as he
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feels like he does in Trump's.
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Alex had to get on his show and attack him in order to correct the ship, which is explained
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by him.
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He came on his show and said that they should invoke the 25th Amendment.
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And so that made a lot of headlines.
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That was him saving the world.
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You know, it is something where it's very easy to forget this because we all just assume
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it will happen.
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But Trump saying those things is just him saying them.
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People have to do them.
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So we're all assuming that all of the people who know that the deal is bullshit, all of
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the people who know that what he's doing is illegal, and all of the people who are in
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a place where they could say no are going to say yes to him just because he's the imaginary
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president for a while.
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Well for us, at least from where I'm sitting, it's the same issue.
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And that is that maybe they will, maybe they won't.
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The stakes are too high to bet on people not following what he says.
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Yep. Amazing.
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So I'd like to endorse not following unconstitutional and flagrantly illegal things that the president
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might tell you to do.
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But I don't know if we can bank on that because someone might.
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Yeah, man.
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Boy, it's just tough not to say, I get it.
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I get Nazis.
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I get it, buddy.
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It's tough.
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It's tough to be a Nazi.
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And here we are.
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What you gonna do?
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So Trump, he really can't threaten genocide.
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You can't do that.
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I mean, I guess you can.
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And I tip my hat to Alex.
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Yeah.
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Politics warns America is ready to strike Iran stronger than anyone has ever seen before.
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Close quote.
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If agreement isn't reached, declares no nuclear weapons will be used.
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That is very good to calm nerves because you can't talk about total annihilation of a civilization
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never to return its definitions of genocide and not have us have to come out and say emergency
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break, slam the disc brakes on.
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Whoever's telling you this, well, we know Mark Levin, he said it on Fox News, do not
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listen to lunatics.
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This is some of the most weaselly stuff you can do.
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It's wrong for Trump to threaten genocide because it's wrong.
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Full stop.
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The formulation Alex is putting forward is that it's wrong for Trump to do that because
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if he does, then Alex has to be critical of him.
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I get that Mark Levin is just the scapegoat explanation for everything now and Alex has
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decided that he's going to paint him as the guy behind all of Trump's bad decisions.
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But if Alex has enough sense to accurately describe what Trump did as threatening genocide,
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then he has to be able to understand that Trump did that on purpose.
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You can rationalize that someone gave him bad advice all you want, but no one could
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ever talk me into threatening to commit genocide because I would never do that.
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If you're honest with yourself, you can't say the same about Trump.
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Based on the actions that Trump took on social media, there are only a couple of conclusions
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you can come to.
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One, Trump is willing to kill the 93 million people in Iran if he doesn't get his way.
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Two, Trump is such an incompetent negotiator that the only way he thinks he can get his
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way is to bluff and threaten to kill 93 million people.
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Three, Trump is so dumb that he can be talked into threatening to kill 93 million people
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even though he doesn't want to nor does he think it's a good strategy.
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Or four, Trump believes that he and Iran are just doing this for show and all these threats
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are just a dick measuring contest for him.
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Alex really needs to accept that there is just no saving this.
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Trump threatened to commit an intentional genocide in order to scare another country
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into accepting a deal that they didn't want to accept and even Alex can't come up with
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a less damning way to describe it.
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If you're fine with this, you don't have a principled stance against Trump nuking someone
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because he did everything but pull the trigger here and everyone knows the justification
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for not pulling the trigger is bullshit.
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It's arbitrary that it didn't happen.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we all, one of the biggest things that we all lived through was Game of Thrones.
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And one of the main characters of Game of Thrones, when faced with a out of control
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despot threatening to kill millions of people, he killed that guy, right?
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And everybody agreed, totally the right move.
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Totally the right move.
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Can I actually correct you?
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Yeah.
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Two main characters do that.
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Good point.
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And in both cases, everybody's like, you gotta do what you gotta do.
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It is the correct move.
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There were consequences but everybody, you know, there was some stigma.
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But yeah, everyone kind of...
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Yep, yep, yep.
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Everybody moved on.
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They were real bummed out for a bit, but yeah.
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So Alex talks here about Lindsey Graham and how he's overconfident about Iran and ground
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troops and the war and that stuff.
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Sure.
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Jesus Christ.
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And he gets a little lost.
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Lindsey Graham's asked two weeks ago, 2005 when Marines take Crogh Island?
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I believe in the Marines.
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Well, it took 110,000 Marines and sailors to take Iwo Jima.
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That was 20,000 Japanese.
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Crogh Island has more than that.
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Well, you're just against our Marines.
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This is mathematical stuff.
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It's like, what's it take to get a Falcon Heavy into orbit?
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How ever many tens of thousands of tons of fuel?
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They're like, well, we just need 500 pounds.
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You're like, no, you need tons and tons and tons.
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It's mathematical.
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But so many of these malignant narcissists, politicians and corporate leaders, the highest
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percentage you see anywhere, not just sociopaths, but psychopaths throughout history, they
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get so delusional.
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They will just give orders that are insane.
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And one of my favorite examples, because the film is amazing, Deepwater Horizon.
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Of course, it came out like, of course, it's a movie.
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Well, 14 years ago.
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Of course, it's a movie.
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Yeah.
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One of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell, but I'd see a documentary about it from the court
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case.
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It's from the transcripts of the court case.
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That all happened.
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That movie's like basically exactly as it happened.
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Even the actors they chose to play the people, the head of the rig looks like Kurt Russell.
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You know, the Mark Wahlberg guy looks just like Mark Wahlberg.
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I mean, they just did a master Mark Wahlberg five times.
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I need to watch it again.
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And they get a call by the coon ass head of BP in the US.
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Nothing is coon ass.
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He says coon ass accent.
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We gonna do well.
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Don't be great.
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So I think that you're talking a bit a lot about Deepwater Horizon here when it should
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have just been maybe an analogy you're making as opposed to a five minute chunk that you're
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going to get into about the movie and how it's real.
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Really don't need to even give me a cast list.
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Even if you're nailing the analogy part, at no point in time will the cast list assist
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me in getting your point.
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No.
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And I would also say that you're not making the point with the analogy.
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That part is why you would bring this up.
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And that is weak.
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Yeah, that's no good.
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Because Alex keeps talking about the movie.
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Why not?
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The Pentagon said 90% chance they don't get removed.
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The strike gets closed.
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It creates a chain reaction.
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And now we can't do regime change.
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We got to do ground invasion.
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And that's even lower probability because they'll keep fighting because we funded a
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huge war for seven years against them in the 80s.
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And they're even tougher now.
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But it's the exact same thing.
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Well, you just go ahead and you do that now.
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In fact, let's play the trailer or whatever clip you found.
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This is it.
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And this is the transcripts because these old companies have secretaries back.
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You know, they're recording it all.
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They create transcripts of it.
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They had the transcripts, these phone calls.
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You just go ahead.
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We going to save 50 million a day, not putting that mud in.
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They call the concrete mud and the Texans on the line going, it's going to blow up.
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But still he went, OK, did the pressure test.
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Didn't blow up.
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All right, I'll do what you said.
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Hours later, blows up like.
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We have to listen to the real experts, not.
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Oh my God.
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Mark, not Mark.
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Oh my fucking God.
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This is an exact parallel here.
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Folks play the clip.
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So he plays the clip from Deepwater Horizon.
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I will.
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I lived.
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I was alive.
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I was alive during Covid.
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I was alive living.
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I was a living human being during Covid for that man.
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For him to not be ripped to shreds by wolves after saying shit like that.
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Or Walburg's.
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Or Walburg's, absolutely.
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If he goes to Walburg, I expect him not to make it out.
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You stay out of Boston.
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I expect to eat an Alex burger at a Walburg.
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To be clear, I want to make sure we're all clear on the argument that Alex is trying
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to make.
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He's saying that experts warned that attacking Iran would not be a good idea, but the wrong
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decision was made.
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Similarly, in the case of Deepwater Horizon, experts told the decision makers that the
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well was going to blow up, but they didn't listen.
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The connective tissue between the two things is that the right experts weren't listened
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to, and Alex is saying that they're both bad things that could have been avoided.
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Right.
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What I find really interesting is that this isn't a strong connection between these two
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things.
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And in fact, understanding what happened at Deepwater Horizon really doesn't help you
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understand the situation in Iran at all.
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The further problem is something that we've touched on another time Alex brought up this
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movie, and that is that Alex is just wrong with the details about the actual explosion
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at the horizon.
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Well, that sounds right.
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He's right about the movie, but he's not right about the real world.
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That is the problem.
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He has to insist that this movie is so accurate to real life because he only really knows
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about the movie, but he wants the audience to believe that he's speaking from a place
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of deep research about the real world.
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And at this point, I could descend into a very elaborate discussion about drilling and
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the mud that he's talking about, but it is thoroughly unnecessary and we have other things
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to get to.
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So I'm going to skip what I spent a lot of time on.
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He's just an asshole.
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You spent a lot of time on drilling.
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Drill baby drill.
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Unfortunately, we're now moving on.
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Yeah.
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So the mud, they put the mud down in order to offset the pressure down at the bottom.
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This has nothing to do with the explosion that happened later.
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Anyway, who gives a shit?
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Okay.
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All right.
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I'm actually kind of interested, but...
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Well, okay.
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I'll tell you this.
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Tell me a little bit more.
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When you're drilling, you have to weigh two variables against each other.
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One is the pressure down in the rock that you're drilling into.
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Too high explodes, you're going to die.
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If you hit pockets of things, they will rush towards places with lower pressure, so it'll
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go up the pipe.
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In order to offset this, you need to put mud down the pipe, what they call mud, down the
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pipe in order to create a greater pressure.
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So stuff won't go upward.
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Gotcha.
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However, you have to balance the weight of the mud with how...
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If it's too heavy, it will penetrate the rocks.
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It will crack the rocks.
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You need a Goldilocks amount of mud, and it takes a lot to get a Goldilocks amount, because
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too much and too little are very easy to do.
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Right.
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So in the case of the Deepwater Horizon, when they were drilling, they had way too little
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buffer between the mud weight and the pressure density kind of thing, that equation that
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they needed, and they were doing that in order to try and maximize profits and take a higher
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risk.
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When they were getting out of the mine, or out of the well, the normal thing that they
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do is they pour concrete down there to cap off the well so things don't come up.
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No more problem.
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Right.
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And in that process, they did not correctly or fully cap it.
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Right.
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And so that's what caused...
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Right.
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They had given too little buffer between the drilling of the mine, or the well, and then
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they didn't cap it properly.
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Right.
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Gotcha.
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So anyway, Alex is...
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He's just wrong about a ton of shit.
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Gotcha.
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And I don't care.
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All right.
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But not because you cared.
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I'm actually...
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I'm interested in how that works.
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That was a really interesting thing.
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You should go see the movie.
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Well, okay.
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Alex has seen it five times.
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That's too many times.
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Yeah.
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So there's other issues on Alex's mind.
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Yeah.
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Like aliens.
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Sure.
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All right.
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While we've been focused on this incredibly dangerous war, the shock waves that are happening,
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foreign control, US foreign policy, Israel planning to nuke Iran and more, we've not
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been looking enough at all these Congress people that are very trusted, Brachette and
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others saying, no.
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Four alien species talking to humans on the earth, spacecraft, all of it.
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Trump needs to release it all.
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Are they being given this info or is it real?
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I've got a lot of answers.
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No, you don't.
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And I think we've been focusing on that plenty.
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It seems like we've talked about that a lot.
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Yep.
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Dark journalist has been making some great points.
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Yep.
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I mean, I'm going to just reiterate my forever stance on aliens.
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If aliens, then only aliens.
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You will know.
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You won't even need to ask.
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You won't need to be like, hey, are aliens?
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You will know.
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It will be known immediately if aliens.
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Right.
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Like we talked about on the last episode, I think if aliens want to destroy us, they
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can, and they aren't so great.
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They don't want to harm us.
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Yep.
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And if they want to reveal themselves to us, the government can't do shit about that.
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So like they don't want to, if they're here, they don't want to be seen.
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Let's respect their privacy.
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What treaties?
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Yeah.
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Shut up.
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Shut up.
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Anyway, we get Alex teases this, that there's like, this is in his mind.
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Yeah.
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But he also has some real world stuff to talk about.
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All right.
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Like the night before he prerecorded an interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Okay.
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And so he plays that interview and a part of it involves her saying, hey, Alex, I'm
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proud of you that you called Trump crazy because he's crazy.
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Yeah.
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And you came out and you call it exactly as it is.
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And you said the president has gone insane and it's time to use the 25th amendment.
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He's not mentally stable.
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And I, you know, you can love president Trump, but you can, you can not love him no matter
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how you feel about him, but everyone has to be honest and realistic and, and wake up and
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look at the facts.
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Any person, no matter who they are, when they say they are willing and they set a deadline
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and they literally say 8 PM that night, that they are going to wipe out an entire civilization
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of a country that by the way, Iran has not bombed America.
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We don't have bombs falling on our head.
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We don't, we are not being attacked right now.
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Nothing is happening like that to us.
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Am I defending Iran?
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No, I am not.
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I'm just pointing out the real, but president Trump put out that true social right there
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and literally said that he would wipe out an entire civilization of people.
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I don't know how that is defensible by anyone.
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It's total super villain stuff.
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Not even Hitler said that out loud while he was actually trying to do it.
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No, that's absolutely right.
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Yes.
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Civilization.
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And then, then saying it's going to be bridges and power plants.
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That's critical infrastructure.
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And he said never to come back.
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I thought he's trying to save these people.
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Yeah.
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Never to come back.
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And the president has come out and he's, he's spoken about why he's going to war and it
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was to free the Iranian people.
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He claimed it was to help them.
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He said it was not about the oil, but yet it's straight up about the oil.
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It's all about the Strait of Hormuz.
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And it's because he found out that this is not popular.
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People don't want to have the so-called temporary pain for long-term gain.
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Well, that was the good news though, is when you and Tucker and everybody else came roaring
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out and not the Democrats, they saw polls and I'm talking to insiders at Raspy's, you
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name it, they're below 33.
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He's in free fall.
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So thank God still somehow we're able to get to him.
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And again, I love the old Trump.
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I told you on the phone this morning, I said, I hate the new Trump.
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I'm just gonna be honest.
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I hate this person.
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This is, this is a disgusting husk of the former person.
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This is like, you know, in a vampire movie, you love your wife, your husband till the
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vampire bites them when they're now a vampire.
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No, this is horrible.
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No, he's the same guy.
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No, but like, I find this fascinating the way that like MTG is perfectly situated for
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what she wants to do.
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But she's just not very dynamically interesting as a media personality.
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She's great for someone to be a shit talker in Congress.
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But like if she has to do a show for herself, I just don't think she has it.
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She doesn't have the chops.
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Yeah, but it's so unfortunate because she made all the right choices to set herself
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up to have a very lucrative career in right-wing media.
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I just, I don't think it's going to work.
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There are so many comics I know who would be delighted to be in her position and would
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fucking crush it, but they would never have the chops to get into her position.
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And so the two of them being unable to, it's very old Henry, you know, I'm good enough
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to do the thing, but you're not good enough to do the thing.
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Maybe she should try and become Theo Vaughn's co-host.
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Maybe the two of them could make a go of it.
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Maybe they'd fall in love.
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Yeah.
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That'd be beautiful.
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That would be beautiful.
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So this isn't the only post that MTG is offended by.
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All right.
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She also is not thrilled with what Trump said on Easter.
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Okay.
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The post that it disturbed me deeply inside was on Easter morning when the president made
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that horrific post and it was shocking.
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Easter morning is when families and people all across the country, Christians across
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the country are waking up and celebrating the fact that Christ has risen from the grave.
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This is like, this is the greatest day that we have.
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And it's literally the basis of our entire faith.
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And many families are getting ready to go to church and planning to have, you know,
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all day long, uh, celebrations with your cooking and gathering and eating.
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The president put out a post that was the most disturbing post I've ever read.
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And I killed Jesus.
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Straight up hormones.
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Allah is great.
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Uh, just, just, you know, I'm going to totally destroy you.
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It's just foaming at the mouth.
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Yeah.
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It's unacceptable.
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Yeah, no shit.
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So in case you missed that one, Trump's post from Easter morning was quote, Tuesday will
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be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped in one in Iran.
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There'll be nothing like it.
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Just live in the fucking street, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.
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Just watch praise be to Allah.
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He is risen.
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Oh my God.
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Honestly, that's one of the craziest things anyone has ever said, because it just has
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too many layers to it.
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He's threatening war crimes by targeting civilian infrastructure, which is in itself a terrorist
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act.
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He's saying fucking and bastards at 8 AM on Easter morning.
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He's throwing in completely unnecessary lines like just watch and there'll be nothing like
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it.
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He's throwing in just filler.
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Yeah.
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And then the praise be to Allah is almost mind melting.
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What could he possibly have meant by that?
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Is it trolling?
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A presumably Christian president saying praise be to Allah on Easter morning is so weird
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that it's confusing.
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Yeah.
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Naturally you read something like that full post and you're immediately horrified by the
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intent to kill that he's expressing, but then you have to take a step back and look at it
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like it's a magic eye poster.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, man.
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You know, I can't.
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Okay.
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All right.
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This is the thing.
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This is the thing that's going to kill me in the next, in the next five years, I'm going
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to die because of this thing that everyone is going to do to me all the time.
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Everyone is going to do this thing to me, just like Alex going like, this guy is crazy.
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He's nothing like this or anything like that in order to justify how he thought previously
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and how he doesn't have to change his thinking in the present due to the things that happened.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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How many times, how many times did I talk to one of those fucking journalists and I
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was like, Hey, call these idiots, Nazis, call them Nazis.
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Just do it.
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And they were like, no, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, these Nazis said not even Hitler about
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that Nazi, not even Hitler.
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Right.
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And they're going to come at me and say, no, we were totally right.
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What we did at the time was right.
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Well, cause Trump changed.
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Exactly.
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Except he did.
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Today is the day he finally became president is what happened.
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There is a clip.
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It's not really like worth cutting, but there was a moment where Trump or, uh, Alex actually
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said that Trump needs to be president.
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Oh my God.
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I was just like, come on, man.
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I'm just going to die.
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I'm just going to die.
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Yeah.
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And like, I think that it's great that MTG doesn't like this post and those other ones
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and whatever, but she can cut it out with this act.
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Like it's exactly what you're talking about.
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Like I'm not going to sit here and pretend like Trump hasn't been this person the whole
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time.
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We're not going to launder your, like what sounds good that you're saying now?
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Yeah.
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Did you yesterday exist?
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I either say we fucked up or shut up.
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That's it.
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So after he plays the Marjorie Taylor Greene interview, Alex reveals that the Lord has
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blessed him since he came out against Trump.
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I wasn't consciously guilty for still supporting Trump because he was doing so much good.
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I don't want to throw the baby out of the bathwater though.
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I was still critical.
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But in six months, and I've always slept great, seven, eight hours nonstop.
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Great.
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Last six months I've had trouble sleeping.
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Since I've come out directly against what Trump's doing, I slept 10 hours last night,
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nine or 10 hours a night before I feel so good at a gut level doing this.
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The end of the day, that's what matters.
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It's like an intellectually look at something and it's the right thing to do and my conscience
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helps me do it.
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But man, when I feel great about something, that's why I do this because it feels good
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to tell the truth.
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I don't believe the sleep thing is real.
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That's just a way for Alex to reinforce that he did the right thing by calling for Trump
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to be taken out of office with the 25th amendment.
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But Alex doesn't feel good when he does the right thing.
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When he experiences things he likes, he defines them as a good feeling.
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He defines that feeling as, oh, I must have done the right thing.
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There is no right or wrong for him.
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It's all conditional.
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And then after the fact, whatever choice he ends up making will magically have been correct
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and the heroic option for him to make.
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That's crazy how it works.
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Yeah.
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Every time.
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He writes his own myths in reverse.
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Yeah.
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That's fun.
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It's cute.
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I do appreciate this late in the game.
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Like, oh, I slept well.
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Like wow.
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Wow.
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So you've been doing, how many years have you not been sleeping well?
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If that's where we're at.
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Well the guilt of being the giant piece of shit probably weighs on you.
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I bet.
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So I, at this point, we enter some waters that are a little bit dark.
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We enter the danger zone.
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Yes.
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And I can only sum things up like this.
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Okay.
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The big stuff's coming.
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I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel.
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Yeah.
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Me too.
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Me too.
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There is, we're just on the cusp.
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We can't, man, the worst thing that ever happened was dark journalists showing up for hours.
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Well get this.
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It's not dark journalist.
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Oh.
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Alright, so I'm a fan of Dark Waters, a journalist, researcher, James Williams.
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I saw him a few years ago, but I watch him every couple days now.
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I went back and started watching his older shows.
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He was like seven, eight, nine, ten years ago talking about the fake alien invasion,
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how it's demonic, how it's interdimensional, which I've been laying out as well.
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So Dark Waters, aka James Williams, has been on the show before, but at this time, Alex
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keeps talking to, like, right now he's constantly hanging out with dark journalists.
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We can't do this.
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You can't have two darks.
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No.
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No.
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Two space dipshittery experts, both with names that start with, we can't do it.
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No, can't handle it.
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If you've forgotten, Dark Waters is a guy who has a YouTube channel where he would talk
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about cryptids and read scary stories, which turned into a stream that involves politics
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and religion.
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I watched a little bit of it the last time he's on and it's not very good.
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A lot of this stuff seems obsessed with a cryptid named The Dog Man.
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Ooh.
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His videos have a pretty small audience, so if Alex is having him on, it either means
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that Alex will have anyone on, or that this is more brokered programming.
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Or he agreed to the interview thinking it was dark journalists.
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That is entirely possible.
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He just might have seen the dark and been like, alright, that's good.
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Or Dark Waters finally found The Dog Man and is going to meet the most dangerous thing.
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There we go.
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So I've become a dark journalist guy.
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You're a DJD?
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Yeah.
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You're a DJ, Dan?
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Yeah.
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And so I can't really get excited when Dark Waters comes on.
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Right.
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I was wrong.
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You were wrong.
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I was unfamiliar with what he was going to bring to the table.
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Okay.
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And...
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We're really doing aliens, huh?
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This ain't aliens, man.
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Oh, okay.
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But I came in here, I didn't look at the notes he sent, and I saw what he was saying about
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we cannot abandon Trump now.
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Trump is a weapon of God's hand.
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No peace between Israel and Iran.
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A fast must be called from the throne of power.
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What is Trump contending with?
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And I've literally tried to get people that are defending Trump and what is going on on
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the show, because I really wanted to hear from them, not to beat them up.
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They won't do it.
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Oh, that's it.
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I thought the leftists were the ones who wouldn't come and debate.
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Didn't you have tapes of your own show from the past?
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You could just play those at yourself.
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That's an option.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, Dark Waters.
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Dark Waters is still on the Trump train.
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And he's calling for a fast.
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And he's rhyming every now and again.
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He has a position that basically, we prayed for Trump.
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Trump is a weapon.
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We can't let other people use this weapon.
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All right.
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That's fair.
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It is.
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That is fair.
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No, no, no.
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That is the one position I think I would accept.
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This is what we prayed for.
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Let's ride it out.
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That's fine.
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We have just lost our grip on the weapon.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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The one that people have is, and we expressed this the last time I was on the show with
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you, I said that you were a watcher and a watchers are people on the wall who see the
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enemy coming.
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And that watchers job is to identify to the king, Hey, we have a problem.
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So you've been doing what you're supposed to do as a watcher.
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You're being attacked because you are watcher.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I need you to remember people made prayers for Donald Trump to be
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president of the United States.
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It's not like Donald just became president by happenstance.
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This was something that we all prayed for, for him to be the president of the United
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States.
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And so now we have a situation where the man that we prayed for, who has an anointing
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from God and Alex, you could attest to this.
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You've seen this, that Donald Trump has an anointing that deep, a hundred percent supernatural.
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And it's not him.
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It's got supernatural.
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That was it.
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That's all it took.
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Hillary Clinton, everybody that's ever risen against Donald Trump and contested against
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him goes down.
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So what do you do with a man like Donald Trump who has an anointing from God that you
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can't defeat?
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You bubble wrap him, you control him, you point him like a weapon at who you want him
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to hit.
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And the problem that I have as a Christian is we, as the body of Christ in his nation,
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we don't understand that that is a weapon that God gave to us.
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And we have to fight for our weapon.
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We have to fight for control of our weapon.
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We can't just hand it over and throw up our hands and be like, Oh, he pissed me off and
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it's done.
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We can't do that.
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That makes sense.
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I, okay.
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It does.
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It, it, how about this?
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There is a through line.
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Yeah.
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And it, it follows it.
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Everything follows from one to the other.
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But if you listen to that man and understand that what he is talking about is supposed
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to be the real world, it should not surprise you that the president, this man desires is
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shouting shit like I will end a civilization and spoiler alert for later.
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I don't think the dark waters has that much problem with that.
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I wouldn't be, no, you can't.
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I mean, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that the fact that it does kind of make sense in terms of like a position, someone
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who likes Trump should have.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It just highlights how much Alex doesn't make sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cause he's crazy.
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He's yeah.
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Black waters is crazy.
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Absolutely nuts.
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But it makes so much more sense than Alex.
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No that, but you know, it's like if, if you start from nuts, but then you have a through
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line, I don't know, maybe you'll, maybe you'll make it through to the, to the same side.
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You don't know.
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Sure.
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Right.
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But if you start with, no, well you do know.
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But if you're just like, ah, I'll try and do anything you're going to lose, you're going
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to lose.
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Yeah.
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So dark waters has an explanation for what's going on and why the weapon has been taken
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from them.
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Jesus.
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No.
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Oh, I regret to inform you that witches are back.
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Oh hell yeah.
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The president has been under the witchcraft attack that you, anybody's ever seen.
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That man is isolated.
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That man is alone.
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And the worst part about it is we should be praying for him.
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I agree.
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I should, I said it some, but we should be totally praying for him because it's a battle
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over him right now.
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Just like the angels of the devil fought over Elijah's body.
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Moses's body.
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Yep.
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They fought over Moses's body.
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Sorry.
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You're right.
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Moses's body.
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And watch this.
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Understand this, ladies and gentlemen, the seat of presidency of the United States, the
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presidential seat is a throne of power.
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Men sit in that throne of power and they, they retain power for a while.
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It's why Barack Hussein Obama didn't leave DC with the first time Donald Trump came in
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because he set in a throne of power.
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So here we get, he'll be glad you get a Christian president whereby I say, Oh, he's not Christian.
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He and the Epstein files.
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We get a Christian president that comes in who sits in the throne of rallies.
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Nobody did it.
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He does the right legislation.
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He did the actual action, right?
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He sits in a throne of power.
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He comes under assault and then everybody's like, Oh my God, we're going to abandon him.
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No, we cannot abandon president Donald Trump.
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I'm sorry.
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So I'm hearing this and I'm flashing back to at the beginning of this interview, Alex
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said that he's tried to get pro Trump people to come on the show and none of them will.
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Yep.
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That leads me to believe that the best pro Trump argument someone is willing to make
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publicly on Alex's show is that Trump is under the sway of witches.
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Yeah.
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This reflects poorly on Trump and on Alex's booking department.
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This is, uh, this is rough times.
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Well, uh, I do like that there is some, there is a layer of like actual wisdom below the
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witchcraft of like, yeah, if you isolate and fucking drive a man crazy, don't be surprised
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when he goes crazy.
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And it was like, yeah, that does make sense.
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But also what if witches were involved?
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It's the greatest witchcraft attack that anyone has ever been under.
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I would like a ranking of previous, like in the oceans 11, you know, it was like, these
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are the people who got the closest to stealing from a casino.
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I would like a ranking of the greatest witchcraft attacks up until this point.
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Right?
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Sure.
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Well, here's what I, here's what just immediately came to mind.
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And I think that it's tough because the closest you can get to pulling this off or whatever,
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I think that's quantifiable.
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Okay.
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With witchcraft attacks, there's an art to it.
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Sure.
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So you're going to have a lot of debate between what's the greatest witchcraft attack.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Cause some of them, some of them are like, that's a good question.
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Is it the largest?
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Is it the most subtle?
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Is it the one that is most in essence of witching?
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You know, the one that, that makes people most feel witchy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I remember there was something I saw when I was in Santa Claus, Indiana, and that
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was that they have a Santa Claus hall of fame and there is a dispute.
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Oh my God, yes they do.
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There's a dispute between various people who have been like the official Santa of who was
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the like best Santa.
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Oh my God.
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Some of them are like, this guy embodied Santa the best.
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I mean, this guy was the original.
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Listen, listen.
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That's how it is with witchcraft attacks.
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If you've got, if you've got, if Santa was your thing, yeah, you got to fight for that
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territory.
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You got to fight for it.
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I'm I, people might say this is a petty fight.
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Disagree.
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You own that Santa Claus suit.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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It's as good a use of time as talking about witches.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, Trump's under this witchcraft attack.
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Sure.
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And, uh, the only way that we're going to be able to stop this is if someone in a seat
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of power calls for a fast.
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Hell yeah.
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Wait, what?
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How do we break that control?
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The way you break that control is what the Bible told us to do and what we've seen.
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When David sinned with Babsheba, David ended up calling for a fast and making sacrifices
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under God.
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When has a guy was having trouble.
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They went on the fast.
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What has to happen is there needs to be a fast from one of the thrones of power in this
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nation.
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It could be JD Vance.
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Who's a Christian.
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Hey, we're going to do a three day fast and pray for the president.
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It could be Susie Wiles.
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Who's in the throne of the, whatever her position is, is like the chief of staff.
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Hey, we can, we can do a three day fast for the president of United States to break this
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off of him.
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It could be his wife.
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It could be his oldest son.
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It could be anybody that sits in power close to him and pray for the man and fast, make
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a sacrifice to the Lord.
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And we can repent and say, Hey Lord, we're wrong.
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This is up there.
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We went in the wrong direction.
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Trump's been, Trump's turned it around before it can be done.
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So I think that there's something like very wormy about Alex with like, just like, Oh,
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we can save this.
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But then with, as far as dark waters goes, I don't think a fast is going to help.
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Probably not.
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But let's take all of the magic out of it.
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He's still advocating for people in positions of high office to do something that acknowledges
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we should take this seriously.
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At the very least.
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He's asking people to do anything.
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Yeah.
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I'm asking you just to not eat for a day.
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Treat this.
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We need someone in a powerful position to treat this and not like normal time.
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How about some urgency?
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How about some urgency maybe?
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If that urgency is expressed by let's not eat for three days, it's better than nothing.
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I guess.
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Or I mean nothing is better than the something.
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So I hate to say that like, you know, what he says makes sense, but it does, it does
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more than Alex.
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You know, when I listen to him, I immediately go back to the 16th century.
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Right.
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And I'm seeing all these Bibles start to pop up and I'm the, I'm the Catholic church.
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And I'm like, dude, you do not know what you're unleashing.
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We got to destroy these printing presses.
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You don't know what's going to happen.
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And all of their reasons they thought made sense, right?
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All the things that they were like, Oh, I'm so scared that this is going to happen or
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we're going to lose power or we're going to lose all that stuff.
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Right.
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Completely wrong.
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Here's what happens.
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That guy, that guy starts talking about Hezekiah taking a fast in 2026.
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You fucked up Gutenberg.
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And Susie Wiles can do it because she's in some office of power.
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Exactly.
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Oh boy.
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So a dark waters has some scripture.
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Well, he wants to get it.
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I knew he would.
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah.
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We have to battle for him.
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Watch this.
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I'm gonna give you another scripture.
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I want you to, I want you to hear this.
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Watch Jeremiah 50 and tell me if this is not what Donald Trump has been doing.
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Oh, right.
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Jeremiah 51, 2023.
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Go ahead.
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All right.
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Thou art my battle acts and my weapon of war.
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Hell yeah.
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For with thee, I will break in pieces the nation and with thee, I will destroy kingdoms.
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And with the I will break in pieces the horse and the rider.
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And with thee I will break in pieces of the chariot and the rider and with the also, will
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I break in pieces the man and the woman and with thee, I will break in pieces, old and
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young, and with thee, will I break in pieces the young man.
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I will burn around to the ground who also in pieces with the, the shepherd and his flock
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and with thee, will I break the peace in pieces?
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The husband, man, and his yoga boxing and thee with thee and with thee, well, I break
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in peace as captains and rulers.
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What has Donald Trump been doing
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on the behalf of this nation?
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Wrecking shop.
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The man is a giant wrecking ball.
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He's a battle ax of the Lord.
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In fact, every, Alex, you're a battle ax.
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You're just running around wrecking everybody.
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Boom, boom, boom.
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I'm a battle ax.
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Every Christian is called to be one of the Lord's battle ax.
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So when our, if we have this beautiful, you know,
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vintage battle ax that's chopped off millions of heads
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and won millions of victories, but the handle breaks,
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do we throw that ax, that battle ax away?
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No, we fixed the handle.
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Yeah, it was a battle ax.
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That is a terrible analogy.
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My mother-in-law.
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Yeah, nice.
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Nice.
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Bam, bam, battle ax.
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We've done stand up.
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So yeah, this is, it's an interesting scripture.
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I mean, it sounds hardcore.
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It sounds metal as fuck.
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So I'm down for that one.
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It's metal, but also probably not the one
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that I want some people hanging around with.
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Sure, sure.
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I think some people could take a,
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you are a battle ax the wrong way.
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It probably goes the wrong way from time to time.
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But it's an important beginning
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to something that is fucking insane.
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Okay.
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And that happens in this next clip.
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Mic down for this.
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Okay.
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There's these false expectations we have,
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although all the information is in front of us.
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So people are mad at Mark Levin.
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I expect Mark Levin to be a rank devil.
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Sorry, I just expect him to behave like a rank devil.
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Hold on, hold on Pastor James Williams,
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Darkwater stop.
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This literally, Rob dude just walked in
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to our news director, been here 20, 18 years.
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He just walked in.
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This was delivered to the door by FedEx two minutes ago.
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You talk about a biblical sign.
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This was just delivered to the door by FedEx two minutes ago.
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Rob, you just ran in here.
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What, you got a letter?
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What does this say?
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Now, I mean, this is biblical.
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This is, this is why God works.
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Somebody got touched by God.
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Dave, I'm crying right now to mail this.
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This literally just showed up FedEx.
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Rob, come here, sit down, read this.
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What the hell's going on here?
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He just said, I mean, literally, as you said, battle ax,
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FedEx arrived.
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What the, this is-
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So literally about 10 minutes ago,
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the guy who runs the business side of things
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brought this to me.
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Usually we don't bring things over like this,
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but he goes, this just came in.
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He said, it's a battle ax.
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I couldn't believe it.
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I heard you talking about it, pastor.
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Someone sent a battle ax.
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What?
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It showed up right when Dark Waters read a verse
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about the battle ax.
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That's unacceptable.
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Yeah.
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It's also very unconvincing
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community theater level performance this year.
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Yeah.
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And that's being unfair to community theater.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, that's pathetic.
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They, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Not doing that.
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No, refuse.
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So I played the clip of Dark Waters reading
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that battle ax related verse earlier for a reason.
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And that was because Alex said overhead shot during it.
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And that flashed up on screen, his notes.
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One of the things-
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Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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One of the things he'd printed out for the day
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was a page of talking points that Dark Waters
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had sent him to cover.
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One of which was the line that Trump is quote,
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not a politician, a battle ax.
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And as Christians, so are we.
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They knew in advance that Dark Waters was going to read
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a Bible verse about battle axes.
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So I can't help but think that they just had an ax
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that a listener sent them at some point in the past.
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And they're pretending that it just showed up.
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Yeah.
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The problem is that Alex and Du are asking,
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they're acting like this is amazing,
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but they're not acting like it's amazing enough.
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If an ax arrived at Info Wars,
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the moment a guy was being interviewed about God
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calling Trump to be a battle ax,
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they should be losing their fucking minds
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because this is playing out live.
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Yeah.
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This is in effect a miracle.
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No, the Crusades started for less.
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Yes.
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The production notes for this episode
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that Alex accidentally puts on camera
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kind of make it a little too obvious
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that they could have faked this really easily.
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Also when Du sits down and reads this person's letter
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who sent the ax, they show his whole address
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and phone number, which is not cool.
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You have to be more correct and careful
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about protecting people's privacy
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when you're doing fake miracles as publicity stunts.
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Wild.
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But yeah, that's crazy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I was kind of interested in that.
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Okay, we just re-watched that Amazing Race season
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with the long lost twins.
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I think there's more than one.
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See, that's the problem.
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Yeah.
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The young ladies?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, I remember that one.
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Always, always, always on the side
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of long lost twins, of course.
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But then these two people said something
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that made me want to start a riot.
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And everybody just acted like it was totally fine.
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And they were like, we both eat two hard boiled eggs
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in the morning and we feed the second one to our dog.
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Independently, they both came up with this very
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extremely specific thing that they do together
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and they're twins.
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And that's fucked up.
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It's unacceptable that that is allowed to happen
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on this earth.
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And then everybody's just like, ah, whatever.
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Weird coincidence like that.
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No, no.
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Well, I think that in cases like this,
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and I don't want to impugn their storytelling.
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But I think that there might be a situation
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where one of them did it regularly
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and one of them might have done it before.
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And when they talk, the one who does it regularly
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tells this piece of their history
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and the other one's like, oh my God, I do that too.
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And it becomes a piece of the lore.
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Of course, absolutely.
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I think that people have a tendency
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to do that kind of stuff.
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This is what I'm saying.
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It needs to be addressed.
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No, it doesn't.
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Not that one because it's cute.
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Let people have it.
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Let people have the mythology of their relationships.
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That's fine.
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This is faking a miracle on air in order to push Trump.
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I don't know if it gets more blasphemous
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than faking a miracle other than doing it on air.
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I mean, also while fake crying and probably praying,
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I'm assuming he's praying.
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It might get to some prayer a little bit.
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There we go.
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There's also a element of it
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that Trump has just threatened to genocide Iran
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and Alex has said he got much better sleep
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because God made him feel better
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after he called for the 25th Amendment.
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So this is kind of all over the place.
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It's very strange.
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It's a strange day.
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Yeah.
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So lest you think that Alex has faked this,
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he reassures everyone that he did not
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read these notes before the show.
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I was worried.
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God told him to do this just for this moment
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so people see how real God is.
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Look at that, that's another miracle right there.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty crazy.
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And the blood comes off the cross.
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There it is right there.
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That's crazy.
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Wow.
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And I didn't read what you said
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till 10 minutes before you came on.
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No, I just got it and walked in there.
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I'm like, this needs to go on the air.
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It was a sign from God.
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I tell you what, let me do something.
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We need to give God some glory right now.
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Oh, this is good.
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Oh, fire.
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Wow.
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Holy ghost, fire burns.
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Everywhere, oh.
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Oh, fire.
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Holy ghost, fire burns.
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Are you making that up?
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I don't know.
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I'm not sure.
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I don't know, but he goes on a bit.
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The lyrics don't evolve.
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Are you freestyling that?
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Are you just throwing that off the dome?
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Is that what we're doing here?
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I was watching this and I was like,
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oh my God, you just started singing.
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This is awesome.
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Amazing, amazing.
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They faked a miracle
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and now he's singing the Holy Ghost, firebird.
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Yeah, this is the type of cheap shit
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I've been waiting for.
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This is what I am here for.
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I'm sick of the past, what, year and a half,
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two years of shit.
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I'm out here for this, baby.
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Oh yeah.
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Give me that, Dark Waters.
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So after Dark Waters sings a little bit,
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he does a prayer with Alex
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in order to free Trump from the control of the witches.
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Lord, we decree and declare as the ecclesia now
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in the name of Jesus Christ,
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that every form of witchcraft, sorcery and divination
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has been cast against our president is now broken.
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And we invoke and plead the blood of Jesus Christ
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against it, Lord.
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His realm of thoughts and his realm of imaginations, Lord,
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we invoke and plead the blood of Jesus Christ over that.
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And we decree and declare freedom for his mind,
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freedom for his heart, freedom from his soul,
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whoa, freedom from his soul that they've tried to hang
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with each and every one of these souls.
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And everyone must join us,
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and pray for Trump right now.
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We're gonna break this demonic spell right now,
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the name of Jesus.
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We break it now in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Lord, we thank you and we praise you
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and we honor you for this great opportunity.
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It's a great opportunity to free Trump
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from the spell of the demonic witches.
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Sure.
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This is important.
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I wonder about the mindset of a God,
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if you think that an increase in oratory skill
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is going to also increase your likelihood
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of receiving what you desire from said God, right?
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I don't know, I mean, Alex is a rich tradition
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of that like sovereign citizen stuff.
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Right.
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With like, the technicalities and capital letters.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, so maybe he does think like,
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we gotta speak this real well.
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Totally, totally, that's what I'm saying.
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I'm thinking about the mindset of the God in this situation.
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What's up with this dude?
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He's a stickler for pronunciation.
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Right.
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Which languages are the best for him?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Are we talking somebody who's speaking in this language
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is better at just by virtue of the language
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they're speaking?
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Well, I think it's obvious that English is the best.
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Sure, I mean, come on.
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And you might argue that like, oh, these holy texts,
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they weren't written in English, right?
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Sure, there is that.
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But English, do you think it's a coincidence
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that every language can be translated into English?
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That's God.
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No other language.
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That's the best thing I've ever heard.
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That's the best argument I've ever heard
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for anything in my life.
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I submit.
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It makes too much sense.
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I submit.
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You can't go French to Russian.
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You have to go French to English to Russian.
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I'm on board with this God now.
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It happened fast.
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So God came to this guy months ago
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and told him to make this ax,
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specifically so it would arrive while Dark Waters
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was on this show speaking his prophecy.
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But how crazy is this?
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This is delivered in the last 30 minutes.
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Rob's delivered it 10 minutes ago.
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He's watching him at battle axes.
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They walk in with this and the man says,
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I was told by God in Oklahoma, make this for you.
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Like close encounter for you.
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He was told to make the mountain.
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I had to send this to you and my son said, send it.
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And it perfectly arrives right as you're talking about it.
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That is the power of God,
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literally telling us that your message was true.
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God obviously knows the future for it.
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Saw all this moment to back up what you just said.
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Yep.
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Watch this.
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JD Vance.
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Watch this shit.
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Susie Wiles, Caroline Lovett,
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every Christian inside the White House, call a fast.
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You can just have the Christian staff fast.
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You can call a fast.
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You can call a fast of the ecclesia,
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the entire church to fast for the president.
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Oh my God, you just said it.
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God's whole point was to make them listen to you
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about the fast.
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Call a fast.
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And so, call a fast.
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God literally just took a highlighter
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to everything you just said in God's plan.
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Literally had someone make this months ago,
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be pushed by God and sent it now
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to perfectly arrive, not last week, not yesterday,
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today, 20 minutes ago, to rob, do, see it,
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delivered it saying, this is for Alex.
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We talked, the guy that delivered
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didn't even know this was going on.
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Perfect, that's God's perfection right there.
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You just saw a man.
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Is that it?
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Yep.
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And look how badass it is.
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It's also a badass ex.
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All right, so here's the other problem with this God.
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I get you, the oration, English,
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obviously, your argument is fantastic.
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Thank you.
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This particular situation,
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especially the way that Alex is describing it,
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has the feel of a God on the couch with another dude
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going like, you are not gonna believe this shit.
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Check this out.
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I fucking mailed this shit.
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You're not gonna believe this.
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They're gonna go crazy.
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It's like, it brings to mind people
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who set up elaborate dominoes.
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Yeah.
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You know, like in order to watch them.
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You gotta get something else to do with your life, man.
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It's a hobby.
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It is a hobby, but I don't like that the battle acts
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in my life is involved.
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I think that Alex is convincing.
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Rob, too.
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That is nuts.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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I mean, there is a chance that like,
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unbeknownst to us, Rob do is like an acid casualty
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or something like that.
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And like, he just doesn't have any effect.
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What's in there?
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Yeah.
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What's in there, do?
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So maybe he is freaking out,
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but he just can't express it or something.
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That's possible.
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I don't know.
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But I will say, I have to,
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while we're on the subject of experts that Alex has on
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whose name starred in Dark.
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Yes.
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I like watch this as a catchphrase much better
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than Dark journalist's no question about it.
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Right, right, right.
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No, watch this is great.
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That's so good.
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Watch this is one of the best things to say.
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Watch this is always great because either it is somebody
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who's about to do something cool
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or somebody who's about to fail in a cool way.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be great.
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Yeah.
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I think that I say look and listen a bit.
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You know, and I don't generally mean them to be like,
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emphatic, aggressive.
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Asshole, look asshole.
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Watch this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Watch this is great.
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I think it's great.
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Watch this comes with a smile.
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Yeah.
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Watch this.
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So God, there's a lot of dominoes here.
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Sure.
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And one of them, it turns out,
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was picking Dark Waters wardrobe.
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Before I come on the show, I'm sitting there,
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I say, God, what do you want me to do?
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He said, I want you to give him the scriptures
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and send them everything that you're gonna talk about.
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And I was like, you sure I need to do that?
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And sent it to him.
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And then I have one thing he said, no,
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give the scriptures on it.
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You didn't do that last time.
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Yeah, I didn't, right?
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Are we doing this?
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That's what he told me to do.
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He's like, give me the scriptures.
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And I was like, okay, give me the scriptures.
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And I shot it off to my producer,
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my producer shot it off to your producer and like, okay.
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And then he was like, now go sit down
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and relax and get ready to go.
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So I, you know, then I actually,
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I sat down and had a different shirt on.
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He said, no, go put on your sports jacket in a white shirt.
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I said, okay.
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What a weird guy.
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My thing is, ladies and gentlemen, God will speak to you.
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If you pray to him, if you talk to him.
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He rarely wears a sports jacket.
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I guess God wants this to be a special jacket.
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Are we doing this?
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He said, put on the jacket, put on the shirt.
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He never says that.
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Be like, what you, cause I'll say,
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Lord, what do you want me to wear?
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Whatever you wanna wear.
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Okay, cool.
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Okay, cool.
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God doesn't generally say you should wear something nice.
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And I think that that speaks to the fact that God knew
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that this was going to be a miracle
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and he wanted him to look nice.
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Like it's a professional,
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they think you're going to an award show or something.
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Dress up.
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Yeah, I like his extremely personal relationship with God.
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Almost too personal.
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Weirdly personal.
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Sartorial in the closet behind me kind of level.
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God, what do you want me to wear?
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I don't care.
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Buddy, I'm out here.
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I don't give a shit.
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Somebody needs to win a sports game somewhere.
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And I'm supposed to be doing that.
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And now I gotta tell you to wear a sports jacket.
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Wear a sports jacket.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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It's good friends.
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I'm going to mail you a battle axe.
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Mm-hmm.
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That makes sense.
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It's good stuff.
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Yeah, man, people.
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So earlier on the show,
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Alex played his interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Sure.
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And she had some problems with Trump's Easter tweet.
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Yeah.
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Conversely, Dark Waters loved that shit.
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I loved it.
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He thought it was great.
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Okay.
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And Alex is starting to get a little annoyed
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that Dark Waters is not impressed by the miracle
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that has just happened.
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But you're going to have to be truthful with the man.
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If you love him and you dare to serve him,
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you have to be truthful with him.
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And then let the Lord deal with the rest of it
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because he's God's anointed.
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And that's what we have to do.
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We can't get our feelings hurt because he says mean things.
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We can't get our feelings hurt
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because he sent the mean treat a tweet out on Easter
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where he was actually on some Elijah type stuff.
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When Elijah was against the priestess of Baal on Mount Carmel
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he was like, well, where's your God?
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Is he in the privy?
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When I read it, I bust out laughing.
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Cause I said, this dude is wow.
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I agree with that.
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I agree with that.
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It's like, dang, Donald, you wilding out.
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So you not only you tell me you're going to throw them up,
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blow them up, but you teasing a guy saying
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he can't stop you from me from blowing you up.
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But people don't see it that way.
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They saw it as, oh my gosh, I don't see something mean.
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You got to come back the next week.
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Cause you, I'm not mad at you kind of moved on from it,
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which I'm not saying is bad.
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But I had you on about the aliens
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right before you send a lesson and look at it.
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I'm like, what's this about?
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God's a battle ax and we got a year.
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Okay.
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Let's go there then.
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Cause I want to hear a defensive Trump.
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I mean, I need that.
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And then you're like, you're a battle ax.
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I'm a battle ax, but we have to, Trump's our balance.
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We've got to fight over the weapon.
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And then literally FedEx pulls up right when you're on,
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they walk in with a letter saying,
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God told me to make you this battle ax
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and send it to you as a message to keep fighting.
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I mean, show the battle ax folks.
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That is incredible.
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This is one of the most incredible things ever.
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So Alex is basically saying one more time with feeling.
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Let's take this again.
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Act like you just saw a miracle, man.
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You paid for the upgraded package of.
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The miracle package.
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You are not playing the game.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, what do you do?
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I think that's,
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you got to let me in on a game like that.
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You know, you gotta have a, you can't expect me to improv.
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You can't expect me to yes and a miracle
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without going like, buddy, I think this is bullshit.
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You know?
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Yeah. I wonder where the communication point was.
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Like at what, whose idea was it to like kick this up a notch?
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Yep. Yep.
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Cause if it was Dark Waters idea,
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then like he is kind of underselling this
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and he's acting poorly.
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No, you're totally right.
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But if this is just something that like
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there was an ax around the office and Rob do brought it in.
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Let's throw this out as a game. See what happens.
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Then it makes sense that Dark Waters is kind of like,
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he's rolling with it kind of as well as he can.
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See, look at, I sang.
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I gave you a little random song word.
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And if this is Alex's idea, that's awesome.
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It feels very strongly like it's come
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from the Infowars side based upon Alex's fury
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at not being acknowledged
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for being the greatest talk show host ever.
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Maybe, but like, I think that that fury could come also
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from someone who is like, hey, you wanted to do this
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and now you're not helping me sell it.
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Totally.
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And I think that would explain the frustration.
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Both would be very angry making.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So we come to the end of Dark Waters interview
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and Alex asks for a prayer on the way out.
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Oh boy.
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We got a minute and a half left.
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Lead us in a prayer for Trump's defense
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and Trump's wagging to defend him
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from these evil people around him.
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And we take back control through the Holy Spirit
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that got us back control of Trump.
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He gets back under God's control.
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Sure. Let's hit it real quick.
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Lord, we think that it bleeds the blood of Jesus Christ
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over city, inequity and transgression.
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I speak against us into the courts of heaven
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and Lord, we honor you because you are our God.
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You are a rock and our strong tower.
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You are our delivery.
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Thanks buddy.
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Lord.
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What up?
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Lord.
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Let me say a quick prayer for the Infowars crew.
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Lord, as Alex Jones is the head of the Infowars crew, Lord,
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I ask that you give him rest and Lord,
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any wicked spirits that have attached to him
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or gleaned on to him because of the stress and anxiety
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that have hit him.
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Lord, your word says,
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be ye anxious for nothing,
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but in all things through prayer and supplication
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make your request known.
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Lord, I ask that every request and prayer
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that the Infowars crew and its members
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have made unto you, Lord,
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we ask that according to scripture
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you answer those prayers.
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Lord,
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the,
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Lord, the spirit of-
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Nope, you hesitated.
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I don't count your prayer.
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The spirit of the Lord that's trying to attack
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each and every person in that building,
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like it's outside of the building.
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Lord spirit, we bind you now in the name of Jesus Christ.
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There hasn't been any mention of alcoholism
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up till this point.
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Nope.
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And it really sounds like he's reading off something.
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Yeah.
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Alex cuts him off mid prayer to go to break.
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So I don't know if he pissed Alex off with that or not,
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but it felt really weird.
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Yeah.
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So, unbeknownst to Alex and Dark Waters,
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right around when they're saying this prayer,
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like just reveling in the miracle
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that is the magic battle ax,
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the witches were planning their counter move.
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Okay.
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At 3.28 PM on this very day,
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Trump took to Truth Social and posted the following.
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I warn you in advance, this is very long.
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Okay.
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Great.
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Now I'm stoked.
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Yeah.
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You have no fucking idea.
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A lot of Trump words.
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That's what I want to hear.
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Quote, I know why Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly,
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Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me
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for years.
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Oh, oh shit.
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Oh shit.
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I was fucking the checklist.
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The checklist is happening.
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It's everything.
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Everything will be taken from you.
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Like a fucking Gurtha novel or some shit.
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I know that there's going to be a lot of this
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and I encourage it.
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I know why Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens,
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and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years,
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especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful
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for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror,
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to have a nuclear weapon.
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Because they have one thing in common, low IQ.
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They're stupid people.
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All right, now we're talking.
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They're stupid people.
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I don't know what he was saying.
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My IQ is too low to understand if that's an insult.
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Now I get it, baby.
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They're stupid people.
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They know it.
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Their families know it.
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Their families know it.
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Their families do know it.
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Though their family, that's just an honest one.
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That's true.
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And everyone else knows it too.
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Look at their past.
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Look at their record.
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They don't have what it takes and they never did.
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They've been thrown off television, lost their jobs,
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and they aren't even invited on TV
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because no one cares about them.
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For you!
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For you!
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For you!
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All of this was done for you, just like I told them.
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It would be thrown away.
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Everyone knew that.
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Oh my God.
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They're dumb.
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They're dumb.
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They've got low IQs.
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They're not jobs, troublemakers,
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and will say anything for some free and cheap publicity.
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Can't argue with that.
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Now they think they'll get some clicks
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because they have third rate podcasts,
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but nobody's talking about them
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and their views are the opposite of MAGA.
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Or I wouldn't have won the presidential election
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in a landslide.
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Wait, I'm confused.
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Here's my one point of order.
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Because up to this point, Trump,
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I've loved everything you've said so far.
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These people are dumb.
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Fantastic.
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They are chasing attention.
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All of this is great.
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These are solid insults.
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I do love that you brought their families into it.
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That's perfect.
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That's beautiful and sweet.
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I don't understand.
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Ah, this last part.
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They're the opposite of MAGA.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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You're the president.
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You can't say no one is talking about them.
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You are.
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You're the most person to talk about anybody.
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Right.
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Yeah, I know there's an inherent problem with that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You just can't do that.
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You can just leave that, but leave that one out.
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You know, you don't need to,
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that doesn't get in the way of anything else
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just taking that out.
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But it still stings for these people.
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I get it.
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I get you.
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I'm just saying if we're going for clarity,
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I'd cut that out.
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Listen, there was no editing done on this.
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I believe that strongly.
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It took so long.
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I believe that.
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MAGA agrees with me
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and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of Trump.
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But hand flailing fools like Tucker Carlson
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who couldn't even finish college.
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He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox.
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He's never been the same.
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Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist.
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Yes.
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Yes, please.
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Back on it.
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Back on track.
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Or Megyn Kelly who nastily attacked me
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with the now famous only Rosie O'Donnell question
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or crazy Candace Owens,
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who accuses the highly respected first lady of France
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of being a man when she is not
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and will hopefully win lots of money
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in the ongoing lawsuit.
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Okay.
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Actually to me, the first lady of France
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is a far more beautiful woman than Candace.
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In fact, it's not even close.
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See that this is the type of shit
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that you can only get from Truly Crazy.
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That's only true crazy would have to add that.
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I can't, listen,
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I can't not appreciate the beauty of a woman.
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I just gotta tell you.
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I just gotta tell you.
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And to me, she's hotter than you.
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She's hotter than you, you're ugly.
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Or bankrupt Alex Jones who says some of the dumbest things
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and lost his entire fortune as he should have
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for his horrendous attack on the families
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of the Sandy Hook shooting victims.
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Everything, everything will be taken from you.
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Everything you have loved I will eat as if you die.
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I hate ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.
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These so-called pundits are losers
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and they always will be.
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Now, fake news CNN, the failing New York Times
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and all the other radical left news organizations
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are hailing them and giving them positive press
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for the first time in their lives.
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They're not MAGA, they're losers
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just trying to latch onto MAGA.
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As president, I could get them on my side
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any time I wanted to, but when they call,
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I don't return their calls because I'm too busy
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to be on World and Country Affairs.
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And after a few times, they go nasty
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just like Marjorie Trader Brown.
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But I no longer care about that stuff.
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I only care about doing right for our country.
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See, I gotta edit you down again.
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See, you totally do.
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You've just written a very long paragraph.
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Just cut that, just cut this little part out.
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Yeah, just cut that little part out.
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You don't need it, move on.
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MAGA is about winning and strength
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and not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.
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MAGA is about making America great again
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and these people have no idea to do that, but I do.
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Because the United States is now the hottest country
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anywhere in the world.
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Wow, what?
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President Donald J. Trump.
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That was it, that's the end of it.
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The end of it is the USA is now the hottest country
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anywhere in the world.
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All caps and hottest is in quotes.
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I don't, what?
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There's a lot of stuff in here
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that I tried to accentuate that is capital letters
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and in quotes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You tried to give it a good cold read.
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Yeah, it's a mess, man, it's crazy.
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The US is now the hottest country in the...
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He says that a bit.
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Hottest country.
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Yeah, as opposed to when Biden was in office,
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we were not cool, we were not happening.
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And he hasn't been 25th Amendmented before this.
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Wild.
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So that post, pretty crazy, pretty good stuff.
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That is, I don't even,
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I mean, poetic doesn't describe it.
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No.
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Poetic can't describe it because it is not poetic.
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No.
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In a way, it has...
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Sure.
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No.
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Beauty is truth and truth is beauty.
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That is pretty beautiful.
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So we were mid-recording our last episode
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when he posts this.
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And when I went to lay down for a minute afterwards,
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I got a text from Amanda with a link to it,
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and I can't tell you how funny I thought it was.
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I was losing my shit.
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There's a surface level to this
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where this is the first time I can remember Trump
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acknowledging Alex in public since 2015.
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And it's a brutal take down.
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Oh, it's lovely.
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All of the times when he could have said nice things
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about Alex or boosted his profile a little,
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Trump was silent.
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But now this is clear and direct.
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But there's another level to it,
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which is that a couple of these insults
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are exactly the kind of stuff a real asshole
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would say to get under Alex's skin.
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Alex has issues with feeling inadequate,
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particularly in relation to his family,
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where he has to create a mythical hero out of his dad,
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and he clearly has no respect for his own son.
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So Trump saying that his family knows he's stupid is brutal.
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Yeah, that one's heartbreaking.
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Alex also has inferiority issues
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around never really being accepted
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by the mainstream and media.
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Trump saying that these people are losers
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who were kicked off TV or are never on
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because they're irrelevant
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is an affirmation of one of the deep insecurities Alex has,
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as demonstrated by his desperate star fucking behavior
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directed at any celebrities who will pay him any attention.
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Finally, making a strong stance like that
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about Sandy Hook is a haymaker.
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Alex's argument about how he got screwed over by the CIA
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and FBI because he supported Trump is so flimsy
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that it really requires no one dissenting from it,
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particularly not someone in Trump's position.
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This is the guy who Alex was supporting.
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He was supposedly persecuted for supporting.
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The trials were a witch hunt against Alex,
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but they were really trying to get at Trump.
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And here's Trump saying that Alex deserved to be bankrupted
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for what he said about Sandy Hook and how it was horrendous.
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And it's an example of Alex how he says the dumbest things.
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Yep.
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As soon as I saw this,
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I felt something I'd not felt in a while.
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I had legitimately no idea what Alex was gonna do.
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Oh, that's a good point.
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That's a good question.
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There have been times when I felt like I wasn't sure
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which path he was gonna choose,
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and I've been surprised by the angles he'd picked
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on some things like the Epstein coverup.
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This was different.
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Even as big as the Epstein stuff was with his audience,
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there was a way to downplay it.
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This Truth Social post was a case
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where there is no response Alex can make that's a win,
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and there is no way he can get away with not responding.
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The president just said that he's a liar
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whose family knows he's dumb
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who deserves to lose all his money.
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And it's happening immediately
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after Alex and Dark Waters faked a miracle
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and called for their fast to save Trump from the witches.
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That is, now that is poetic.
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That is a coincidence that should be a miracle
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on par with the battle acts if it were actually what it was.
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These are the times that try men's souls.
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Yeah.
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What do you do?
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I don't know.
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There is not a really good way forward.
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You know, there were two things.
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There were two things that I immediately thought
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at the end of that, right?
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Which is that as devastating as all of those things were,
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upon further reflection,
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the most devastating thing that he said is a true thing,
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which is I can get them whenever I want.
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I can get them whenever I want.
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That would be like, to me, right?
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My reaction to this in my head,
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what Alex has to do is scream, you fucked me,
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and now we go, now we fight, we fight to the death.
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You and me are now mortal enemies.
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I will do everything I can to take everything away from you
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because you said that you can call on me whenever you want,
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and I can't allow that to be true.
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Hey Trump, I misrepresented,
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or I misinterpreted God's message with the battle acts.
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It's coming for you.
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It's coming for you.
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That really should be the only way to go with this.
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We are doing this.
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So this happens after Alex's show,
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and Harrison is on air on the War Room.
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Nobody brought in a frantic letter from FedEx.
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I printed out a part of the internet for you to see.
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No. No.
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But there is a very clear talking point,
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and that is that Alex is not mad.
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Again, you know, it's like you're gonna see a bunch of,
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for lack of a better term,
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people like Laura Loomer and Mark Levin,
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sounding off on this in case,
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as if this is a big devastating attack.
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It's just not,
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that's probably the most pathetic thing about this.
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You get them, Harrison.
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Alex Jones didn't even get angry at this.
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I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
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He is crying right now.
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A man named Alex Jones, he's sort of known for,
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just put him mildly, just a little bit of a temper.
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He's got a little bit of a temper sometimes.
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I think you'll all know that.
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We appreciate it.
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It's what makes him him.
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But yeah, we're not even getting angry.
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It's just like, okay, I'm sorry this happened to you.
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Like, this is weird.
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Do not tell anyone I'm mad.
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I'm not mad.
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I cannot believe. I have never been mad in my life.
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This is the most justifiably mad you could ever,
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this is Highlander shit.
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There can be only one.
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At the end of this, you or me, not both.
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Yeah.
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Alex has left the studio.
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Otherwise he probably would have barged in on Harrison
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and explained how not mad he was.
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But we got this instead.
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And this is convincing.
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I think that Harrison is really swinging me
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on the mad thing.
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Anytime I need to be convinced of something,
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Harrison is the one that's gonna do it.
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Oh yeah.
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Cause you know what?
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Harrison is like, he's to the point.
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He also doesn't get bogged down in sounding like a weenie.
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Yeah, that'd be terrible.
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You know, it's like, I guess this is just our lot.
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It's just our lot in life is we just get nothing.
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We just get nothing.
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We get these people elected.
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We, we, we.
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And they immediately turn around
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and sell us down the river and embrace the people
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who were fighting against him and trying to stop them.
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It really is pathetic what they've done to Donald Trump.
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Very sad.
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He's got 5 million followers and he gets 12,000 views
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and less than 400 likes on this post.
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They, what?
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They're beyond.
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What?
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Like it's not even like, again,
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you really have to think about it.
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This has big, nice guys finish last kind of energy.
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And I'd like to remind Harrison that he works
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at fucking info wars and that there's no crying in baseball.
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The guy who you based your career and identity
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around promoting just called your boss an idiot
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who deserves his own destruction.
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This isn't the time for emo whining
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about how you always get left at the altar
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because you're fighting an intergalactic war
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against the devil.
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This is nonsense.
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Cut it out with this shit.
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Pathetic.
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I can't imagine that Harrison is thinking anything
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other than, man, I wish I'd quit in solidarity with Owen.
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Should have done it.
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That was a fucking chance to get out of here.
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And I blew it.
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Oh God, I bet Owen is fucking,
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Owen feels probably better
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than the rest of the world combined.
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Owen is probably the only person
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who can truly feel the pure joy.
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Cause we still hate him.
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We still have to hate both of these guys.
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Owen, Owen can truly love this.
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He wasn't in that tweet.
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Nope.
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He's, oh man.
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Good for him.
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Hey, the moment he stops being a puppet,
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things go better for him.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Not much better.
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Hey listen, let's not go crazy.
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Yeah, you're not gonna be as successful,
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but you'll be a little freer.
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You'll be a little bit freer.
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You'll probably be a lot happier.
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Maybe.
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So Harrison winds a bit more
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about how Trump is ungrateful.
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No.
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And then suggests that Pakistan should nuke Israel.
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Okay.
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Okay, wow.
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I know that Chuck Carlson, Megyn Kelly,
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Candace Owens and Alex Jones
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have been fighting me for years.
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Now, again, Alex Jones has been very deeply
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dedicated to resisting the drive to criticize Trump
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and has been criticized and attacked for it endlessly.
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Again, doesn't appreciate it.
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What was that?
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What the hell was that?
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Pull that up.
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Who is this?
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A Syrian girl wrote, Pakistan defense minister
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is furious over Israel's destruction of ceasefire.
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So this is the, Pakistan defense minister says,
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Israel is evil and a curse for humanity.
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While peace talks are underway in Islamabad,
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genocide is being committed in Lebanon.
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Innocent civilians are being killed by Israel.
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First Gaza, then Iran, now Lebanon.
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Bloodletting continues unabated.
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I hope and pray for people who created this cancerous state
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on Palestinian land to get rid of the European Jews
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burned in hell.
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I pray people who created the cancerous state of Palestine
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burn in hell.
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Israel's evil and a curse for humanity.
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He has his hand on the Pakistan nuclear button.
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I think he should press it.
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I think you should press.
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I think you should nuke Israel, Pakistan.
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Here's my idea.
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Nuke Israel, okay?
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Let's get real wild with it.
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I'm telling you buddy, I said so.
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Let's get crazy.
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It would be just.
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It would be just and right and good.
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Yeah, these guys are against nuclear war.
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They have some strong principles that they adhere to.
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You know, okay, in the context of previous times,
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whenever Alex was like,
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"'Trump will look like a weenie forever,'
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that's nuclear brinkmanship
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with the whole world's foreign policy.
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That's bad negotiation."
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All of those things, right?
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Petty, you gotta put that shit aside.
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This is pettiness personified.
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You can't look like a weenie.
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You cannot.
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And you look like a weenie right now.
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Nothing is real.
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You have only paint at your disposal to draw a picture.
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And you're choosing to draw a picture of yourself
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as a fucking loser.
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You are free.
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He's freed you.
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He has freed you in a way that you haven't been free
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for a decade.
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You can say the F word.
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You can say whatever the fuck you want.
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Go for it.
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And like, let's be honest.
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There's a certain amount of freedom
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that Harrison has that Alex doesn't.
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Yeah.
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And so he's even more free.
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Yep.
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And this is what he gives us.
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Yeah, even more of a weenie because of that.
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Go back inside of a cage, little boy.
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Yeah, it's sad.
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So anyway, this is the last straw.
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Yeah.
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Can we put the old man in a home already?
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Meh.
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This is kind of it, right?
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This is kind of like the last straw.
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Like it's so clearly,
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he's so clearly lost and co-opted and controlled.
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By these Jewish influences around him.
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It's very sad.
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It's very sad and pathetic.
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Okay, man.
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I'm excited to hear what the next last straw will be.
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I just want, I just want them to,
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I know it's the most difficult thing
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I think in the world for a human being to do,
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but just go, this is the inevitable consequences
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of my own actions.
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I am the cause of this harm.
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It is not the Jews.
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Nope.
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It's Trump.
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Like it's your decision to have this relationship with him.
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Yep.
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Like it, he does this to people.
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You deluded yourself or whatever
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into whatever beliefs you thought
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you might be able to get out of it.
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We all told you where you're going to wind up
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and now you're here.
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So just accept that that's what happened
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instead of being like, eh, I'll do it again next time
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because it may be the Jews won't be around.
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That's insane.
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Or at very least make the most of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Have a good time out of it.
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Yeah.
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You can't be surprised by this turn of events.
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Yeah.
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If somebody like frees you from not being, yeah.
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If you're allowed to be the joker, just go to town.
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Right?
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But look, here's the thing.
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Harrison's been betrayed a lot in the past
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and this brings up some tough feelings that he has.
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I don't know.
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I have trouble being bitter about this.
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I think I have a pretty high tolerance for being betrayed.
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It's happened to me a lot.
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I don't know why.
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People just do this sort of stuff.
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You know, it's just like, you just do everything for them.
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Like I said, I mean, my life has been made tangibly worse
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by the bankruptcy lawsuits.
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It's been a gigantic source of stress and frustration.
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The crap we've had to go through because of the bankruptcy
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or just the anxiety of not knowing, you know,
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if I'm gonna have a job the next day or whatever.
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And again, people mock that too.
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Oh, what, you're shutting down again?
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It's like, yeah, it sucks actually.
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It actually sucks having your entire existence,
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the whim of some federal bankruptcy court.
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I'm not sure exactly what I would have expected
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from Harrison, but this is so weak.
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Yeah, this is pathetic.
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It's all just whining and it feels defensive and childish.
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Also, I'd like to respond to his claim
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that the bankruptcy has negatively affected his life
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by saying that he's using the wrong data points.
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His salary is probably lower than it could be
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if Alex didn't go broke.
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And if you just look at that,
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then it seems like he's making a good point.
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The problem is that he's not taking into consideration
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that he sucks at his job and would have been fired
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if he worked for anybody else.
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Immediately.
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Whatever he's making is much more than he should make.
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And he wouldn't be able to find an on-air job
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literally anywhere else.
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The bankruptcy actually worked strongly
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to Harrison's advantage because it made Infowars
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a way less appealing place to work.
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So the potential competition pool was much thinner.
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In a company that didn't hire most of its talent
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through contests,
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Harrison would not be able to cut it against professionals.
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So the fact that Alex has been so fucked
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has kind of provided him a measure of job security.
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Yeah, 100%.
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What I'm saying is that this glass half empty thinking
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is fucking annoying and I miss Chase.
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What? I miss Chase.
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I know, I know.
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Chase would have been quoting a fascist's history about-
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He would have gone crazy.
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He would have been a delight.
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I mean, this is, see, but this is again,
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this is why Alex was always destined to fail
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is because he can never have anybody
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who could threaten his ability on air.
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Because right now is the perfect chance to take,
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this is, Alex isn't there.
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There's a chance that if Owen was hosting the war room,
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he would just have a breakdown of like,
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no, fuck this shit.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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This is your chance to go absolutely apeshit insane
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on Info Wars in a way that Alex doesn't have
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the courage to do, which will be a fucking,
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for Harrison Smith, that would be a launch pad.
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But I think that Harrison kind of thinks he is doing that
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by saying they should nuke Israel.
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Yeah, I know.
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Saying that Jewish influences-
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He's gonna be a weenie forever, Dan.
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Yeah, I think he thinks that he's having kind of a moment,
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but it's not.
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And even compare his moment on air when J6 happened.
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Yep. To this.
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We have the capital or whatever.
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Yeah, there was so much more elation
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and being in the pocket there, whereas this is meh.
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I mean, you-
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Everyone betrays me.
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You tear your fucking shirt open like Hogan.
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Like you go, ah!
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And then you go off, how is this your response?
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It's rough.
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This is, oh man, he would be fired anywhere else.
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So Harrison starts to reflect on,
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I think Trump would probably kill me if he had a chance.
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How much you wanna bet-
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You don't exist.
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Trump would kill us if he could.
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What do you think the likelihood is
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that if he could, Trump would just drop a bomb on us?
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The far right right-wingers
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that got him elected in the first place.
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He's a piece of shit.
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I mean, there's really nothing more.
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It's like the more I think about it,
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the more it's just like, damn, we really did get fooled.
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We really did get conned.
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He really is what our enemy said he was.
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So just sad.
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Just sad.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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The globalists were right about Trump all along.
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Holy shit.
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We got fooled.
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This guy's a piece of shit.
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Also, we're not angry about this.
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Here's the thing that just occurred to me.
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Everywhere I've ever worked,
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I kinda got a feel for the history of the place
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or the general vibe of the place
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or the identity overall.
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If you're talking about the Cubs-
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Corporate culture.
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You know, there's an identity there
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that is different from other teams.
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They've got their own identity here.
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We've got, or we're a tough kinda town,
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that kinda thing right there.
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How is it that you can be in Infowars
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and think this is acceptable?
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Well, I think things have changed a bit.
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All I can think about is Alex screaming at Piers Morgan
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about some imaginary plot that Piers had to take his guns.
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Like, compared to Harrison, oh, Trump, he's-
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He's a piece of shit.
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So sad.
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And so sad.
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So I just think that this is an unlistenable wine fest.
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Yep.
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So again, you know, it's...
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Like, it's...
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This is what I mean,
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is that it's actually not a reflection on us.
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That's the thing, like, you need to understand.
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We're not sitting here like,
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oh my God, what did we do wrong?
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You should be!
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We haven't done anything wrong.
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He got fooled.
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Jesus Christ.
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Just added on to the betrayal.
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And it proves us right.
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And it proves us absolutely right
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that all the hope that people had in Donald Trump
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turns out to be utterly misplaced.
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The hope that you had, and you-
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I mean-
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Profited off selling.
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Like, it's just, this comes off like,
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I don't know who could want this.
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I get that there's Nazi shit mixed in.
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Sure.
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So I know that some people get a charge out of that.
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I guess.
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This guy comes off like the weeniest of weenies.
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Yeah, this is, I mean...
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If I was going to have anybody be blindsided,
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here's the thing though.
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If I'm Alex, right?
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If I was going to have anybody be blindsided by this,
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I wouldn't be Harrison.
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Nobody's watching.
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He's doing such a poor job, people will turn it off.
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Even if they were watching.
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So you don't have to worry about the consequences
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of what he does.
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Well, no, because I think that some people
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would still stick around because they think,
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oh, Alex is going to fucking-
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Maybe he'll come in, yeah.
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Wake up from his nap and he's going to barge in here.
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That's a good point.
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So I still think that there's like a little bit of a,
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we're going to hear the glass break.
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Yeah.
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Stone cold's going to storm into the studio.
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That makes sense.
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But either way, to be blindsided by it on air,
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that's, you want Harrison to have that.
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Right.
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Of the on-air talents that he has now,
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I think his son, Rex, has been hosting
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the American Journal a bit.
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For him.
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I think you definitely don't want Rex on air.
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No.
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That's-
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That'd be fun though.
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It would.
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He'd be so unequipped to do something.
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And it's so personal and shit.
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Like you really don't want that.
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It'd be a delight.
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Harrison probably is the best shot of Infowars employees.
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Yeah.
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Except for maybe Rob Do.
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He's stoic.
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Rob Do would be great.
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Ah, looks like Trump said all this stuff.
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Ah, well, you know, people say things all the time.
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And I feel great.
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So Harrison gets a clip of Alex responding to this.
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Oh, Alex has responded outside of Infowars.
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Alex has shot a video in his car.
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Gotcha, all right.
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So Alex is driving home when this news hits, okay.
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I think maybe he's driving to go beat something.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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An axe throwing thing.
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A shooting range, something like that.
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But yeah, I gotta say, I don't know if it's because
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it's mixed in with Harrison's response,
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but Alex's response actually kind of seems classy.
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So again, it's not like,
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oh, you know, Trump turned on us
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so now we're gonna turn on him.
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It's like Trump turning on us is like evidence
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that he's gone.
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It's like evidence that it's not worth it
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to try to, you know, say, hey, he's not the best
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but he's all we've got.
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It's like, no, no, no.
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He has a serious underlying major dysfunction.
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That means that he is constantly taken advantage of
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by the worst people and yet is loyal to them to a fault.
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And the people who are loyal to him are all just suckers.
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Seriously.
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Really sucks.
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It really does.
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All right, let's go to this Alex Jones response
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to Trump's little tantrums, his little tantrum.
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Let's watch.
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Well, President Trump came out on true social
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and attacked myself and all the original
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MAGA supporters today.
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And I'm just so sad that whatever's happened to him
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has totally changed the man he once was.
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He did so much good.
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That said, it followed just a few hours after
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Melania Trump came out, unannounced,
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reportedly Trump didn't know,
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and said she wasn't involved with Epstein
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and that she supports a full investigation
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by Congress in the Epstein coverup.
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Trump says Epstein's a hoax.
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So this reminds me of Melinda Gates, Melinda French,
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when she started turning against Bill, also over Epstein.
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So Trump's got big problems, folks.
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This is pretty good stuff from Alex.
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I gotta tip the hat when he comes through
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with something that kind of works.
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Bringing up Melania doing a press conference
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to say that she didn't meet Trump through Epstein
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and suggesting that she's doing that
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to distance herself from Trump
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because he's clearly implicated in all this stuff,
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that's a way to ignore the substance of what Trump said
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and still make the response kind of an attack.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think it still kinda sucks.
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And the fact that it's only a couple hours
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after Alex participated in an on-air miracle
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about how they have to save Trump from the witches,
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it kinda takes away from the impact of this stoic response,
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but it's not bad for something on the fly
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that he shot in his car.
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He's not going to be able to punch the horn
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or slam on the, he's just gonna look like a baby
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if he's freaking out in his car.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's not at the studio.
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No, when you go to the studio, I don't,
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You gotta turn your car around.
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Maybe I'm just crazy.
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Maybe I'm just crazy, but it is like,
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if this happens, I am thinking, if I'm Alex,
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I'm thinking I'm going to make as much money
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as I can off of this.
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This is going to be the best thing ever.
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This frees me from having to do the shitty shit
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I have been doing.
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I can make my show much more interesting.
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I'll be more interesting, period.
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And so what I do is I spin the car around.
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I tell Harrison to get the fuck out of here.
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I make the whole fucking scene blank for a while.
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Nobody's even on air, but it's always streaming.
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It's all there, emptiness.
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And then I show up, I walk in, I rip my fucking shirt off.
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There are flames showing up behind me, like pyrotechnics.
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And I am fucking screaming directly into the camera.
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The idea that I would be like,
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you know, this is real bad behavior from an adult
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is absurd to me.
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It is, it is.
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And I think the only alternative to what you're pitching
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is if Alex was in his car and he explains to the audience,
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I am going to drive to Florida and shoot Roger Stone
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with a dart full of polonium.
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I am going to finish the job on that motherfucker
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and I'll see you in a week.
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I would accept him holding somebody by the throat
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off camera, just like him, just like,
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don't worry about what this arm is doing.
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Don't you worry about it.
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Yeah, let's check the headlines.
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Roger Stone missing.
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Oh, weird, weird how that happens.
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It's a good thing I'm not in the car.
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Unrelated to where my arm is.
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Yeah, that would be fun.
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But-
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Man, this is sad.
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These people suck.
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These people suck.
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When they're supposed to step up, they fail.
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Yeah, so here's the rest of Alex's car response.
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Yeah, okay.
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This is a terrible day
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and it's a nightmare for America and the world,
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but I'm going to tell the truth, report on the facts,
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no matter what it is.
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Was I somewhat naive that I had to defend Trump too long?
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He did so much good, yeah, I did.
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Are people that said I had to defend him too long,
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are they right?
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Yeah, it looks like they are, fine to a victory lap.
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But I did it from a place,
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I believe he was the lesser of two evils.
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And I guess the end of the day,
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the justice be done by the evidence fall,
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there's no such thing as lesser of two evils.
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So I took the establishment attacking him
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as the signage and supporting.
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I took myself being attacked for supporting him
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as the signage and supporting.
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And now it's certainly clear
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that this new Donald Trump is somebody we shouldn't support
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and I'm not.
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So I'm energetically opposing him.
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I'm calling for the 25th amendment
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if he continues to call for nuclear war and genocide.
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Hopefully he backs down.
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I will contain a report of this as unfolds,
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but that's the facts.
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Melania Trump, they've said,
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she's turned against Trump years ago,
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I never believed it,
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but now she's definitely countermanding
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what he said and done,
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saying there's nothing to Epstein.
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She's saying there is,
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should be investigated.
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I stand with Melania Trump and I stand with the truth.
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I stand with the victims of Epstein
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against the Epstein class,
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following the next real auction,
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on Rebel the auction show.
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God bless you all.
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So Harrison came back on after this
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and I instantly turned off the show.
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So I have no idea what the rest of that show was,
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but I'm sure it was insightful.
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I'm sure.
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I was really excited for Friday's episode
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because that little response video
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felt kind of uninspired.
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It felt like he was going through the motions.
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On the one hand,
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they brought up this shit talking about Melania
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and that's kind of a decent attempt at redirecting energy,
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but it also felt empty.
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That video is like a minute and a half long
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and it's supposed to be responding to Trump
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directly calling Alex an idiot who lied about Sandy Hook.
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He said his family knows he's dumb.
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The issue was personal.
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So this is underwhelming.
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You can't do this.
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Yeah, I guess it's just a measure
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of how bad his instincts truly have gotten
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because to me, this is money.
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I am hearing ka-chings.
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I am hearing Donald Trump started a feud with me.
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Started.
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And I want to hold back
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the point that I want to make about that until we're done.
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But I agree with you.
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And I think that this is not furthering that.
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No, this is not money at all.
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Money is in the feud.
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Money is in, you know, Kendrick and Drake is money.
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You don't like, if Kendrick was like,
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you know what, I'm going to be the bigger man.
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That's a loss of money.
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Yeah, you don't take the high road
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when there's the opportunity here.
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Yeah, you're a fucking con man opportunist.
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Of course you got to go for the money.
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Yeah, and so we'll see what he does
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on the April 10th Friday show.
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Let's see.
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So we start off, Alex is in the chair.
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He's in studio.
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Okay.
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Very sad, very sad man.
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And apparently Trump is being blackmailed.
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The evidence is overwhelming
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that Trump is being blackmailed by the Israel lobby.
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And when we saw Melania Trump,
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I'm gonna play her full clip here in a moment,
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come out yesterday and it's reported Trump
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didn't know this was about to happen.
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She said, I'm doing a press conference
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where I'm going to make a statement.
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And she went out there with that six minute statement
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and said, Epstein is real, he's an abuser.
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The victims deserve justice.
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Congress needs to hold hearings.
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The coverup needs to end.
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And then you can just juxtapose that with Trump.
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Dozens of times, it's a hoax.
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It doesn't exist.
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Nothing happened.
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His FBI director, deputy director on TV saying
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he acted alone.
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He wasn't a human trafficker.
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When Ghislaine Maxwell's in prison for that.
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And then here's his wife.
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So Trump said, if Trump said in statements,
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we're getting him, and on true social
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and in person with his mouth verbally,
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that if you think Epstein's real, you're not MAGA.
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Remember that?
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We'll play you the clips.
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Well now by his yardstick, Melania Trump is not MAGA.
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Got him.
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His wife is low IQ.
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Finally.
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His wife's a Democrat party operative.
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This'll stick.
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His wife's a stooge.
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This is kind of like trying to make it personal in a way.
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It's not good though.
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No.
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It's not compelling in the same way as Trump saying,
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your families know you're fucking dumb.
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Like that Trump tweet is-
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I'm rubber in your glue.
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It's a drive by.
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Like it's just, he does some damage
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and then gets out of there.
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And this is an attempt for Alex to be like,
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your wife thinks you're a pedophile.
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Right?
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And like, I don't, it just doesn't,
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it doesn't have the, see, see, aha, by your own words, sir,
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you have been hoisted upon your own petard
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because your wife is stupid.
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Ha ha, I bet you feel stupid now, don't you?
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By your logic, your wife is dumb.
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Wow.
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But then also like, if his wife is coming out
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and being like, hey, I got to get away from him because he-
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Hey, this guy's a pedophile and a rapist.
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What did Roger know?
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Yeah.
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Like, come on, man.
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Come on, man.
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What did you know?
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We all knew.
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We all knew.
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So like, if you're trying to make it-
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He said grab him by the pussy on the first go round.
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Lock talk, lock talk, lock talk.
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Locker room talk.
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Locker room talk.
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But I think that, I think that this is something
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that doesn't really work well for Alex,
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because if true, it also hurts Alex.
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Yeah.
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He didn't do any due diligence
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in terms of investigating Trump before he decided
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to get on board with him, if this is true.
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So like, it's trying to, you should use like a ranged weapon
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instead of a bomb vest.
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You're Alex, right?
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You're not out here, you know, trying to be clever, right?
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If he's calling you low IQ, you fucking lean into it, man.
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I think the obvious move for Alex,
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and I'm not saying this is the best move,
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but the obvious move is to talk shit about his dick.
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No.
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That's the move.
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He's got a tiny shriveled little penis.
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I would go the opposite direction.
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You were saying that, you know,
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he's being attacked as low IQ.
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Yeah.
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I think the next day, Alex does a fucking spelling bee.
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The universal spelling bee.
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See, this is the problem with any attempt
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to prove out low IQ only reaffirms low IQ.
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Yeah, but- That's the problem.
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Come on, it'd be so fun though.
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That'd be like the painting show.
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No, I'm with you.
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I would like to live in that world.
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So Alex is suggesting that Trump was being blackmailed-
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Sure.
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Basically about Melania having a relationship
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with Ghislaine Maxwell in the past,
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some form of a relationship that there's evidence of existing
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and that she did soft core porn.
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Sure.
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And I don't think this makes sense.
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Trump isn't being blackmailed any real Epstein stuff
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himself sex-wise, but it's the people around him
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like Howard Lutting and others, which is to make it firm.
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I said, I think it's gonna be Lutting from what we knew,
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the connections living next door to Epstein and the rest of it.
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He got caught lying about going to the aisle and all that.
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But I also said, knowing that scene,
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knowing insiders like Roger Stone,
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he didn't tell anything about this, but he said-
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Yeah, he did.
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We saw this recycled 10 years ago,
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just got recycled again.
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You've heard this a thousand times for me
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that Melania was a hooker and that she was under
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Epstein's control at a modeling agency
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that's the cover for it.
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And then that's how he met Melania a year later.
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We've checked that, it's not true.
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But that's what they were holding back
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and using embarrassing her and embarrassing Trump.
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That's the kind of thing they were holding over his head
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when he told Marjorie Taylor Greene, it'll hurt my friends.
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It'll hurt people close to me.
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Not just Lutting, but his wife,
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because there's emails and you know,
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there's not just this one where, oh, so incredible
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in Palm Beach, I want to come back soon.
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You're so amazing, you're so beautiful, Ghislaine.
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This is what she's, this beautiful supermodel,
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doing soft porn shoots and whatever,
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not putting her down for that.
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It's very artsy stuff.
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Her was another beautiful woman laying there.
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I'm not gonna lie and say I don't like it.
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When Trump knew that was about to be released,
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we were trying to blackmail him 10 years ago.
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So I told people that did it, not the blackmail,
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but Trump's people, they leaked it to the New York Post,
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the pictures themselves, to get ahead of it.
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Trump did.
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I got it from the guy that did it.
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You can probably imagine what his name is.
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Right away, Roger Stone's joining us now next hour
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to get into all of this.
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Okay, all right.
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He's a little upset with me, but that's okay.
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Now we're listening.
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So you don't want to miss any of this coming up today.
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What promise?
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So this is really dumb because let's assume
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that everything Alex is saying is correct.
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If the blackmail that the globalists had on Trump
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was that these nude pictures of Melania were there,
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then they wouldn't have any blackmail left
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after Roger leaked the pictures to the Post,
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which was in 2016.
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There isn't anything left for Trump to be embarrassed by
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here in Alex's framing.
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And even before the Post published them,
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these pictures weren't secretly held blackmail material.
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They were published in a French magazine in 1997.
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Yeah.
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I get that Alex has decided to commit
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to the Melania press conference angle,
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but there isn't much juice here.
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There's one upside, which is that it's a super personal
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attack, but Alex can pretend that it's about politics
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so he doesn't have to feel like he's rolling around
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in the mud and going tit for tat
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with Trump being an asshole.
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Right.
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But it also seems like a bad idea to have Roger
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on the show the day after Trump posted that shit.
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Yeah.
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You know he's siding with Trump.
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Yeah, he has to.
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Unless you plan on tearing Roger to shreds,
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this is a setup for humiliation.
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Yep.
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This is a calling Steve Paczentk
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during a hurricane situation.
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You are about to make yourself look even more pathetic
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when Roger convinces you to go crawling back.
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Yeah.
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Harrison was like, I'm a weenie.
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And Alex is like, hold my beer.
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Oh my God.
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Please don't, please don't.
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What?
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He's not gonna do it, is he?
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Well, he's a weenie.
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He's gonna interview Roger.
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Roger's gonna show up.
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Yeah, but you gotta, he's not gonna fight.
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He's gonna lose.
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We'll see what happens.
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What a loser.
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God damn it.
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So when I read you Trump's post,
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one of the things that stuck out to you
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was the idea of like, I could have you at any minute.
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I don't return your calls, you dumb asshole.
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Cause he can and he still can.
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And he knows it and Alex knows it.
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Well, it definitely struck a nerve with Alex.
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Yeah.
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And then I get to hear Trump say,
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oh, I don't call him back so he's mad at me.
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I could have him on my side if I wanted to
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but I'm too busy with national and world affairs.
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Dude, you invited me to Mar-a-Lago
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and to the White House last year.
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And I said, oh yeah, sure, okay.
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Oh, talk to this, okay, great.
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And didn't make the call.
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Didn't go.
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Because I don't wanna sit there
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in a room with 20 people at dinner
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and have you pat me on the head
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and tell everybody how great I am.
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I really don't like that.
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I want victory over the globalist.
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I want to free humanity.
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That is what excites me.
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I want war on tyranny.
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I have boiling blood.
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I'm a warrior.
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This is my mission.
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It's my pedigree.
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It's in my blood.
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Not being a sycophant in a king's court.
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I'm on the front lines, not in some son king's court.
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So you can kiss ass the most and steal the most money.
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You're about to kiss ass the most.
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If I wanted that, I'd have had all that.
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You are pathetic.
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I'm not Judas Iscariot.
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When he was a biblical example, I'm John the Baptist
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heralding the global revolution and awakening.
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And even the left and the Rockefeller Foundation years ago
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it was in Newsweek and stuff when it was big.
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And then even Rockefeller Foundation,
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they said, this guy's gotta be stopped.
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Like 15 years ago, they go,
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he is like the John the Baptist of the Tea Party
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radicalizing them.
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And when I read those reports later,
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not just in the news, but in Rockefeller Foundation
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and stuff, it's public.
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I'm just like, oh, I was so proud of that.
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I was like, oh my God.
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You should be.
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That's how smart they are.
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They're smart.
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So I love all these lightweights.
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Johnny come lately, nobody's come along and say that
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I am on a Qatari payroll and need to be put in prison
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with no evidence.
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Before I was, I was a Russian agent.
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Yeah, I could get on an airplane, go to Russia
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and say 50 million a year.
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And they'd put me in as a propaganda head.
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And I'd sit there.
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I can't do that.
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Yeah, no, I've had letterhead from Vladimir Putin sign,
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full authorization, total maximum visa.
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I published it, showed everybody.
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I didn't go over there because I didn't want
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the potential people to say I was doing that.
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And I've had Israel and the Israeli government
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asked me to go to Israel for 20 years, all the same crap.
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I want to see Israel.
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I want to see Russia.
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Sorry, can't do it because of the way it looks.
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I'll just sit here in the wilderness and do what I do.
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While a bunch of lightweights that don't know anything
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and don't have the battle scars.
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By the way, I love my scars, both real and spiritual.
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They're memories.
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They're things I did.
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They're victories I had.
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Even my defeats were victories because I didn't give up.
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I feel like this clip captures the lukewarmness
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of Alex's response.
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It's not hot, but you can't really call it cold
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or even room temperature.
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There's something there, but he's not putting a lot of gas
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in the engine, so it's really light.
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I'd like to ask two follow-up questions to him
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based on that clip though.
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The first is whether or not he realizes
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that he just created a distinction between real
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and spiritual when talking about his scars,
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which kind of implies that he believes
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the spiritual stuff is not real.
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I thought the third dimension was just the playpen,
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but now apparently cuts you get in your meat body.
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That's what you call real.
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Come on.
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The second is whether or not he thinks
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that there's an importance to the idea
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that he thinks he could get a job
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as a propagandist in Russia.
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He doesn't say that he could go over there
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and be the best chronicler Russia has ever seen
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or a journalist.
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He specifically says that he could get $50 million
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to be a propaganda head.
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I'd be interested to know if he thinks
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that this is a subconscious slip that reveals
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that he knows what his actual career is
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and he's not a chronicler.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, it's interesting.
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It's an interesting kind of weak response.
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Whatever the Rockefeller Foundation or whatever
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may have said about Alex at the time,
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that is not about this man.
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No.
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This man has nothing to be afraid of.
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This is no John the Baptist.
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I can, oh, I'm sorry, what did you say?
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I literally didn't hear you.
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And look, I mean like say what you want about Judas.
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A lot of people have different ideas about him
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based on maybe some Gnostic texts or whatever.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But what you have to say is he made a choice.
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Well, you don't have to say that, but yes.
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Well, maybe he didn't make it, but a choice was made.
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You know, like he didn't wait around.
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I know what you mean.
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Yeah, Alex should take a lesson.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So he gets a little bit sentimental.
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He starts thinking back on his early life
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and how weirdos tried to lure him to sex parties
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when he was 13.
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Wild.
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Told you folks, Satan is around it all.
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I told you those stories on air for 30 plus years,
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growing up in the richest county in Texas at the time
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and trying to get recruited by a rich Satanist.
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Eyes wide shut folks, part of my education.
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I've been the Tom Cruise character,
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but not when I was some Harvard doctor.
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I was 13, 14, 15, but I never took of it.
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Literally repeatedly left.
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And I just was like, when I was younger, I was like,
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God, why is this happening to me?
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Well, it's part of your education, son.
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Part of your education.
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And now I've been offered up on the mountain,
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the money and the power to sell America out.
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You know what I told him?
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Piss up a rope.
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Good Lord.
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Piss up a rope.
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I know that Alex's stories can't really be taken seriously,
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but what he's describing here is horrible.
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And I think it's really dark that he thinks God
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would have this response to him.
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If this were really happening,
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then Alex was being exposed to very serious abuse.
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And no matter how strong and mature he imagines
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he was at 13, repeatedly having adults try to lure you
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to eyes wide shut parties would be deeply traumatic.
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There's no other word for that than child abuse.
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And Alex believes that his God would condone him
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being subjected to that because it was part
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of his education.
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I know that he doesn't really understand the implications
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of what he's saying.
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So I don't wanna sit here and pretend that Alex
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is knowingly making the argument that maybe abusers
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are teachers of divine lessons,
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but that's kind of accidentally what he's saying
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when he self mythologizes this way.
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It's fucked up the implications of what he's saying.
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You kind of should support the people
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who are doing the eyes wide shut parties,
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luring children to them,
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cause it's part of their education to fight the devil.
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That's really messed up.
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And yeah, the thing about movies is that movies
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don't have to continually struggle with their plot holes
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or with the problems they're in.
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They can just go to the next scene.
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In real life however, you can't base your life on movies.
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You can't say, oh, this is an objectively good thing
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because I saw it in a movie and it worked out.
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That's not how it, yeah, no, that's horrible.
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No, and I think the mentality and the mindset
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that God is cool with this or wants this to happen
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is dangerous.
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I can't begin to describe how disappointed I am with this.
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This is real.
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I admit to feeling it a little bit myself.
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Once I heard those words, I was like,
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ooh, maybe some good is, you know,
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if I was an Alex Jones former fan or an Info Wars guy
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and I saw that, I would be like tuning in right away.
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Let's see what this man,
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finally this guy's gonna come back to life.
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And then I see this.
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It's bad timing that I think he went to go dry out
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for a week and a half in rehab or whatever
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because if he was drunk, this would be good.
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This is drinking time, yeah.
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Except maybe he would be in this kind of sentimental mood
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if he got drunk.
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And I think that this next clip
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is a really, really huge bummer.
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But see, I knew stuff like this was evil.
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I still believe the propaganda and lies and abortion
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was legal and was just a blob of tissue
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that wasn't really a kid
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if you caught it the first six weeks.
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So there I was saying,
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no, I'm not gonna be part of your sex orgy,
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which I wasn't connecting with it.
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It was pedophilic as I was like 13, 14, 15,
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but technically it was.
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But when it came to killing my own kids,
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I was like, yeah, it's all right, 300 bucks.
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Pew.
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And I never really pressured the girls.
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They were always like, I'm pregnant.
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And it was one girl, didn't tell me she was pregnant.
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And all of a sudden her parents,
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she was a couple of years older than me,
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she was like 16, I was like 14.
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It's like, oh, go, come into town,
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see my family here in Dallas.
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She lived there with her parents.
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They had other family.
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And she had like older sister with kids and stuff.
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You like kids?
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You like baby strollers?
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You wanna take care of kids?
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I'm like, no, not yet.
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And they're like, see, look at her.
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I know what's going on.
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And she had the abortion and got mad at me.
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You know, that's the thing.
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I didn't know about that till she had the abortion.
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Then they always hate you after they have it.
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Wild.
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When I was in college and I was celibate
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once a year, I was celibate for about a year and a half.
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God really hit me and said, stop being part of this.
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When I was 18.
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But then I got this other girlfriend
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and I was wearing condoms and stuff,
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but somehow it broke.
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Getting graphic here, which is just biology.
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And she was just ultra gorgeous, Eastern European.
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And I saw her and she was, I can't see anymore.
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I just am too depressed, I'm too upset.
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And then she said, yeah, you got me pregnant.
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I had an abortion.
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And I was just like, I'm so sorry.
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You should have told me we'd have got married.
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Yeah, right.
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And she was like going to college,
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was top of her class to be a doctor, all this other stuff.
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Probably listening right now.
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But,
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and I was like, okay, that is it.
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I'm going back to no dating for a while.
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And then that's how I got on the air
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and all the stuff I did, but.
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So God didn't tell Alex to stop having abortions
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when he was 18.
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He's been clear that he stopped
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because his dad threatened to kick him out of the house
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and told him to stop killing his grandkids.
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Bigger picture, this is fucked up.
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For one thing, it's gross.
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But beyond that, it feels voyeuristic
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to listen to that clip.
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When Alex talks about this Eastern European woman
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who he loved, who he would have married and had kids with
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if she told him that she got pregnant.
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And he says that she's probably listening now.
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It feels like he needs to believe that she's listening.
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I don't hear a guy who's apologetic about the abortions
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because of an actual opposition to abortion.
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I hear a guy who blames abortion
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for ruining potentially better lives
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that he didn't get to live.
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He spent 30 years on air yelling about nothing
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and he's got two bad marriages to show for it.
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But he only went down this road to begin with
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because he didn't start a family with these women.
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It's very telling that the two stories
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that he tells specifically involve abortions
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that he didn't have any input into.
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Where he's trying to convey
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that he would have raised these children with these women
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if he'd had the chance.
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The way he's telling the story,
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it seems very clear to me
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that he associates the pain of these abortions
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with losing the love of these women.
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He's not telling a pained story about killing kids.
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The pathos comes from how these relationships with hotties
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ended prematurely because they got abortions
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and got mad at him.
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Yeah.
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I think this gives a nice window
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into how Trump's post has made Alex feel
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because that shit is sadder than any meltdown
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that he's capable of having.
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He's thinking about how he could have settled down
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with this gal that he got pregnant in junior college
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and then maybe I wouldn't be on the air.
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Maybe I'd be an electrician.
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I'd have this gorgeous Eastern European woman,
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which is the way I constantly describe Melania.
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Yeah, there's no way to describe it other than like,
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listen, once you lose your fastball, you gotta go.
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You're not a knuckleballer.
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You're not gonna find some junk.
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You've lost it.
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You gotta go.
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Right.
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This is unlistenable.
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This is horrifying.
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Well, it feels gross to listen to.
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It's awful.
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It's not even that it's unlistenable.
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He's talking about condoms and lost love.
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Everything about it.
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Dude, you're fighting the devil.
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Within the end, obviously,
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the betrayal and loss of the women
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is the same as the betrayal and loss of Trump.
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How does he not even see the very clear,
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this is why my mind is going here.
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I'm being dumped again.
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Yeah.
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I know that Trump said that Tucker should see a psychiatrist
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but Alex would see at least a psychologist.
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Boy, he should see a team.
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Yeah.
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So I think that when you're gonna have Roger Stone on,
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the day after Trump posts something like that,
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you can't be bringing this energy into it.
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You need to be coming in with momentum and steam
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and unfortunately he's just not
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and so I feel like he gives up while introducing Roger.
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Wow.
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Well, my old friend Roger Stone joins us
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with really older friends with President Trump, 51 years.
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He knows the inside baseball
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and I know he's upset with me
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about the 25th Amendment comment.
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I was trying to get Trump's attention
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but we know he was getting bad advice about the war.
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You have all the Israel lobby and others
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calling for nuclear war.
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We have new clips of it, Israeli officials
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and that statement about
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destroy civilization forever, never to return.
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I'm glad Trump came off of that and said no nuclear weapons
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and I really want this to succeed.
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I want Trump to succeed
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and now that he's come out and attacked me,
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obviously becomes a tit for tat.
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I wanna think about the Democrats, the midterms,
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how we salvage this but we have Mark Levin and others
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so I know you love Roger, that's a joke.
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Alex is apologizing to Roger and rationalizing
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in his introduction here.
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Roger's apparently mad about the 25th Amendment comments
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and before they even start the interview,
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Alex is abandoning that by saying
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that he just wanted to get Trump's attention
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because the nuclear war stuff was bad.
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But that doesn't explain why he brought it up again
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in his report from the car that Harrison played.
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This is nonsense.
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He's trying to pacify and appease Roger.
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He's lost the argument before they say word one.
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Yeah, that's, I don't even know how to describe
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how sad this is.
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I mean, honestly, this is the first time truly
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where I feel like, oh man, this whole world has failed
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this poor boy.
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That's what I feel like, his birth was a failure.
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His mom failed him, his dad failed him, his entire life.
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Everyone around him has fucking allowed this behavior
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to continue and he's finally feeling
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the actual effects of it and he's so unprepared.
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And it doesn't have to be like that.
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No, no, the answer to this is the most obvious answer.
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1776.
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Pure rage.
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Yep.
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Pure unending, unfiring rage.
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Ironically, the only thing he's good at.
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Exactly.
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He should threaten to eat Trump.
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This is your moment.
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Yes.
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This is what you have been training for your entire life.
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Every yell, every, you are my enemy.
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This is it, the president is your enemy.
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You are a battle ax.
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Oh my God, step up.
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So Alex tries to explain to Roger,
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like I don't wanna just take the bait.
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You know, like what do we do?
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And I think if you listen carefully
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to what Roger is saying, how he's saying it,
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I believe that there's a second conversation
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that's happening subtly behind the surface.
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And so I just wanted to get your take on all of this
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and tell your good friends with Tucker and I as well,
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we finally have time to dinner together with Tucker.
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How we somehow extricate out of this
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and somehow create kind of at least a truce
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or some kind of diplomacy.
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I was talking to Benny Johnson this morning.
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He's taking his four year old on birthday party day.
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So he's getting off early.
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He said, come on next week.
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You know, he's trying to be an intermediary here,
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but also saying Mark Levin and Netanyahu
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should be banned from the White House
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because they confirmed lied to Trump.
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I mean, weeks and weeks ago,
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I heard Susie Wiles was trying to stop the war
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and that's now been confirmed.
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So good on her.
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So it's just a really amazing time.
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I mean, I could build this up forever.
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There's so many places to go, so many things to do,
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but I'm really not trying to take the bait
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and attack Trump just because I don't want to make it
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all about that.
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But it's kind of hard to do too when he's,
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the very law firms that sued him, Paul Weiss and others
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are the ones that sued me and they did it
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because I supported Trump.
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And then now he even uses their tactics against me.
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I wonder if Mark Levin wrote this horrible screen.
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So that's a lot to say, you know, anywhere you want.
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I talked to you via text message yesterday.
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We haven't, you know,
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really scripted what we're gonna get into.
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I know you're a little bit upset with me as well.
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So, you know, let me have it if you need to,
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but Roger Stone, thanks for being here.
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Well, Alex, I'm delighted to be here.
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And you did promise me if I came on today,
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you'd let me talk.
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People need to know our history.
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We've been friends for a very long time.
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You and I met at the 50th anniversary
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of JFK's assassination down on Dealey Plaza.
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Have some time after that, you read my book,
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you told me how much you enjoyed it
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and how informed it was, my book,
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The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
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As a Texan, you knew a lot of this history.
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Then, as you know, I joined the Info Wars
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where Owen Schroyer and I hosted the War Room
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and still until the name of that show
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was hijacked by Jeffrey Epstein accomplice
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and enabler, Steve Bannon.
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I also credit you, frankly,
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and it's in my book, The Making of the President 2016
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because there's a lot of pressure on you
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to be for Ted Cruz as a fellow Texan.
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But after you met Donald Trump,
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by the way, he called you when you got married,
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you may remember, you were going through TSA,
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but you took the call.
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I credit that with the fact
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that when the establishment Republicans
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were laughing at Donald Trump,
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you were exposing Trump and his policies
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to the millions of people in your audience.
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So I think it is unfair to say
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you had nothing to do with his rise.
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You were with him in 2016, you were with him in 2020,
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you were with him in 2024
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and God knows you have paid a price for it,
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as have I, as has General Flynn,
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as has the January 6th.
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And I think you played a crucial role
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in the exposure of Hillary Clinton.
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This is, and there are both,
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there have been times when both of us
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have had some criticism.
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I love the man, I would not be alive for him today,
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but for him.
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And I candidly admit that
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because he knew that I was being squeezed,
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not because I did something wrong,
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but they destroyed my life.
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I lost my home, my car, my savings, my insurance,
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my ability to travel freely
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without being threatened in the streets,
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all because I wouldn't testify falsely
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against Donald Trump.
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So I want to translate this conversation a little bit.
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Alex is telling Roger that he's been humiliated by Trump
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and he's asking Roger's permission to stop supporting Trump
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or at least get a truce going.
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Alex wants to separate his identity from Trump
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and Roger's response is to only deepen
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Alex's connection with Trump
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and stress how important Alex was in Trump's rise.
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In effect, Roger is kind of trying to-
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In for a penny, in for a pound, buddy, you're stuck.
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He's telling him he's pot committed,
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but at the same time being like, and you're great.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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He's playing to his ego like Pacenik used to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing it right.
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Yeah, I believe that Roger is trying to subtly explain
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to Alex why he got a pardon
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and Alex got shit on in a tweet.
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Trump knows that Roger knows shit
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that he's not telling anyone.
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Roger had every opportunity to save himself
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by testifying honestly about Trump
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and he kept his mouth shut,
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which proved his ultimate loyalty.
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Roger and Trump know life ruining stuff about each other
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and that bond was tested through the court system
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where Roger showed Trump that even if they fight,
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he's not gonna spill the beans.
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So Trump gave him a get out of jail free card.
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On the other hand, Alex doesn't know anything
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about Trump or Roger that matters.
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He doesn't know anything he could use against them
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that doesn't directly implicate himself.
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So Trump doesn't care about him.
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Alex doesn't exist for Trump in a transactional sense,
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whereas Roger does.
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To explain what I mean,
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the dirt that Roger and Trump have on each other
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are stories of separate crimes they committed.
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Roger could talk about something he knows Trump did
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that has nothing to do with Roger and vice versa.
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Alex knows some stuff about Roger,
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but it's the kind of dirt
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where they committed a crime together.
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Alex can't really burn Roger without self-destructing
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and they both know it.
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So they're sitting here in this weird space
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where he's like, come on, man,
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I don't wanna do this anymore.
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I look like an idiot.
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Yeah.
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Now you're in, man.
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I got a leash around you.
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Yep.
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This is a bookie.
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This is a bookie.
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That's what's happening.
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You're in for 20 grand, buddy.
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Listen, you owe me that money.
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I'm gonna get that money.
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But I'm gonna tell you this.
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You're one of my favorite guys.
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You are one of my favorite guys.
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So I'm gonna do this one solid for you.
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I'm gonna give you a pick.
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We're not even gonna call it double or nothing.
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I'm just gonna give you a pick.
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You pick anything you want.
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I'll give you, let's say three to one odds.
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So what, at the end of this,
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either you go home with 60K
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or we have another talk.
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How about that?
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Yeah.
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How about that, Trump?
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It's essentially like,
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let's make peace with where you are.
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You don't have any cards here.
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Nope.
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And...
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Nope.
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I can break your knees whenever.
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Yeah.
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So, good times.
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I think one of the things
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that no one could really dispute too much
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is that Alex's take on the whole,
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we're gonna wipe out your civilization tonight.
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That tweet was bad.
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Yeah.
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Alex's take on that was correct.
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Yes.
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What's Roger got to say?
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Well...
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I like to hear this.
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But Alex, let's go through the war now
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because that's important, you see.
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Everybody was certain that he would be goaded
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into World War III, the Bushies, the Cheneys,
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the Laura Loomers,
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trying to goad him into World War III.
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Okay.
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He didn't do that, did he?
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I'm listening.
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He scared the crap out of them is what he did.
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And they folded.
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He didn't fold.
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They folded.
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They're the ones who sent us a new peace proposal.
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That's called peace through strength.
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Those are the policies of Eisenhower, Reagan,
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and Donald Trump.
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Those are not the policies of the Bushies
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and the Cheneys and the...
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Feels very similar.
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And the Obamas and the Clintons.
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So you're saying the total destruction of civilization
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thing was basically just rhetoric.
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Well, but it's...
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And I said this at the time,
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and I thought I was pretty kind.
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It was irresponsible rhetoric.
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The idea that we would remove this president
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given this incredible record.
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And the important thing is, by the way,
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I am an anti-interventionist just like you.
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Before Donald Trump, the last vote I cast
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in Republican presidential primary was for Ron Paul
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in the Florida primary.
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I don't like war.
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I don't like endless foreign war,
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but that's not what we have.
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What we have here is peace through strength.
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So when Alex asked,
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do you think that was irresponsible rhetoric,
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he was talking about Trump's tweet.
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But Roger's responding by saying that what Alex said
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was irresponsible.
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That tells you a lot.
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I could not be happier.
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Here's what I love about Roger.
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I love the purity of it.
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There is never going to be a question.
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You don't understand this.
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You don't understand me.
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You have questions.
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You have things like, I suspect this,
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nothing you say will ever affect me.
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My loyalty is so rock solid,
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I can make up jiu-jitsu for anything you have to say.
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You are nothing.
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And I think even in 2015,
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Alex should have had every reason to understand
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that unless I'm a real bad dude
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who's willing to do real bad stuff and really wallow in it,
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I should never talk to Roger Stone.
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This is going to be a situation
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where I'm in over my head immediately
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and he's always going to have the upper hand
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because he is a bad dude.
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He's a pig.
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He eats shit with a smile.
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Oh, do you think it's wrong to do this?
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Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
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Guess what?
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Oh, you don't want everybody to die.
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I don't care.
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And I'm an anti-interventionist.
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Exactly.
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I love Ron Paul.
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So Alex is like, all right, fine.
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That post that Trump made where he said
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that my family knows that I'm stupid.
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That's gotta be bad, right?
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Come on, at least give me that.
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It has to be.
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Don't you agree?
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Just be honest.
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This was not healthy for Trump to come out and attack everybody.
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Obviously it only makes me bigger.
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It's almost a gift, but I don't want that.
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I need him to succeed.
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This is very destructive of the midterms
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to attack Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones,
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and some of the most other popular people
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saying we're low IQ idiots
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while he literally has Mark Levin sitting in his lap
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and Laura Loomer sitting on his shoulder
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like a demonic parrot.
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She wishes.
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First of all, if you read my book,
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Stone's Rules with a great introduction by Tucker Carlson,
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you know the only thing worse than being talked about
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is not being talked about.
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Nice.
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So Alex, yes, it just probably makes your brain bigger,
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but you need to get back on the Trump train fully.
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We could have Kamala Harris
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if you think that would have been preferable.
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I personally do not.
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I get all of that.
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My point is, is the war is extremely unpopular
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and also the inflation's exploding
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just like all the economists said,
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and you know, we had a narrow window.
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His economic plan was great.
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If we have inflation, which oil and gas
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and fertilizer is the base of,
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then that derails his plan.
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That's why Larry Fink's so happy.
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Larry Fink wants regime change.
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I think we recognize that,
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but I think this will be over faster
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than people think it will be, number one.
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Better be.
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This is sad.
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You are, I mean, man, sometimes the psychodrama,
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whenever Alex is just fucking out of his depth, is crazy.
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That he doesn't understand the purity of Roger Stone.
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No, I think, I think, I,
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you know, I'm going out on a limb here a little bit.
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I think now he kind of does.
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You think so?
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Well, this conversation should do something for you.
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There are a couple moments in this conversation
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that feel like Alex is like,
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I can't talk about things that I know about you.
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I can't say this thing.
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I know that you'll fuck me if I do.
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There's a feeling of like,
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the veil lifted or whatever, whenever it was like,
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I don't think he's treating Roger
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like a straight up person anymore.
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Like I think he's seeing, I think he's afraid of him.
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Well, you should be.
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I'm afraid of Roger Stone.
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Sure.
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I mean, I would be less afraid of him
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if he didn't know I was coming.
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Yeah.
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Trump pissed in Alex's face the night before,
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after Alex pretended to have a miracle happen on air
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about supporting Trump.
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And now Roger's on the next day telling him,
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get back on the Trump train.
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You're weak.
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Yes.
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You are small.
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Putting up with this is...
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Nothing you do matters to me.
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Yep.
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Oh, oh, oh, does it sound bad?
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Will it ruin the midterms?
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No, he can do whatever the fuck he wants
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and you'll say it's good.
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Yeah.
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You better believe it.
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And, you know, just as kind of like a last hail Mary.
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Sure.
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All right, look.
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Yeah.
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I hate Mark Levin.
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Don't we all?
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He's to blame for everything.
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Why not?
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He's the one who's doing all this stuff.
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He wrote the tweet that Trump put out.
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Absolutely, blame it on somebody else.
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So Roger, you hate Mark Levin, don't you?
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Gotta.
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Mark Levin, when I had Michael Savage on a few days ago,
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he reminded me, I remember the time,
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Mark Levin supported Michael Savage being banned
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from the UK because he criticized Muslims.
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He supported you being put in jail.
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He was a never Trumper.
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No, that's not fair.
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Mark Levin criticized me, accused me of abusing
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Nixonian tactics on behalf of Donald Trump.
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He was upset with me.
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I had to remind him if there was no Nixon,
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there would be no Israel today.
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Israel would not exist today,
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but for Richard M. Nixon saving him in the Amkaper war.
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But I will say this, when I was being victimized,
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he stood as a lawyer and he's a very smart guy.
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Don't think Mark Levin is a dumb guy
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just because we disagree with him.
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He stood very tall against the weaponization against me
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and not the outrageousness against me.
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Well, I believe because it was your own case,
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but from my memory, he supported the censorship in general.
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He supported Ted Cruz and then he ultimately came over
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despite his reservations about me being a Nixonite.
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And by the way, I don't forget people who stood with me.
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So when one of the crunch was really there,
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despite the fact that I have many, many,
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many disagrees with him, disagreements with him,
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he did stand tall for me when I was fighting for my life
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and I don't forget that, but Alex, so did you.
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So did you, but also you should really recognize
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by me saying this that I like him more than you.
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He stood tall, you were weak.
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You were weak, he stood tall.
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You understand.
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Roger, help me demonize the enemy
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that I need to scapegoat for this stuff.
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No, he's a good man.
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He's a good man. You do not understand.
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You eat the shit that we give you and you smile about it.
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Now show me a smile, honey.
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We don't really have much use for you anymore.
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Nope, we can toss you at any moment.
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So they finish up their interview
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and immediately Alex is like, man,
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everyone's gonna say that I just fucking glazed Trump.
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Yep.
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Great to be with you, Alex.
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Undefeated and still the champion.
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Thank you, brother.
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I know what the headlines will be
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by the influencers and talk show hosts
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that are just totally against Trump.
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It'll be Jones one day after being savaged by Trump
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glazes Trump.
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No, I'm trying to be balanced here.
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This episode isn't really Alex glazing Trump.
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That would actually be a little less embarrassing.
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Yeah.
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This is more like Alex impotently jangling around
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the chains as attached to his arms and legs
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in a way that it's clearly him not sincerely
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trying to escape.
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So it only reveals how trapped he is.
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He's given up on even the idea of escape.
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Why even bother to pretend?
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It's too much effort.
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Everyone knows who Trump is now
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and everyone knows who Alex Jones is.
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He's the guy who blows up and yells at people.
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Brian Stelter talked about him a little bit.
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So Alex screamed about him for years
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and drunkenly prank called him
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when he was hanging out with Tucker.
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That's true.
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He's petty and he loves to fight.
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There's no reason that he's not burning Trump
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and there's no reason he should be letting Roger
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pull this shit except if he knows he has to.
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There's something that they know.
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Like maybe he told Roger something about how the business
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is set up or something.
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Something.
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Yeah.
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Because there's just too much money.
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There's just too much money in the fight.
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So if you're deliberately choosing not all that money,
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there must be something else going on.
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And as much as it would be lovely to believe
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in some sort of ideology,
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I'm afraid I don't subscribe to them
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having any beliefs whatsoever.
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I have one possible theory that, like I said,
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we'll get to at the end of this episode
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that could explain some of this,
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but I don't think it's actually what's going on
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in the heart or mind.
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But I do think that as the episode goes on,
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Alex starts to feel like,
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I need to explain or I need to come up with an excuse
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at least for like why I didn't punch Roger.
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Yeah.
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But it's good that Roger is standing close to the president
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because he has a lot of influence to keep Tulsi in there
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and other people believe me.
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And I get so much from Roger and others.
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Roger is just one of five people I've got very close
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to the president to talk to him who are very concerned
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and give me a lot of intel
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that you hear about here on the show.
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So Roger is a very good agent for America and for freedom
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and we appreciate him.
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And so it's good to have a Trump acolyte on
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to be able to hear that.
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And I'm not obviously gonna crap hole up with the president
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while we're having that discussion.
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I want Trump to pull out of this and succeed,
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but that's not on the Trump train, off the Trump train.
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That's sit back, just real politic,
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what can we still get that's good out of this guy?
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But it doesn't look good.
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And I'm the chronicler.
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This is ridiculous.
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Wolf, kill me.
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Kill me before anything like that.
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Hey look, I was talking to Roger and of course,
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I'm not gonna be mean to the president during that.
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He's friends.
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Come on, man.
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Jordan, your options are to live as a worm
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beneath the boot of Roger fucking Stone or to just die.
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I'm going with number two, buddy.
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Jesus Christ.
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So I'm gonna skip this next clip
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because it's just a real bummer where Alex plays a video
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that his son made about how great he is.
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No, I don't know.
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No, we cannot do that.
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Not after this.
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It's not after this.
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It's the equivalent of like,
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hey, my son made a macaroni picture of me as Superman.
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I don't need this as, I don't need a poignant memory
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while you fucking demonstrate your impotence.
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Yeah, it's very sad.
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So I'm gonna skip ahead to where Alex,
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he's done a little bit more of the show
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and then he realizes like,
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I gotta talk about some stuff.
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I gotta do it, all right.
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Now most people would imagine today,
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if you tuned into my show,
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with Trump viciously attacking me yesterday
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with a bunch of baseless garbage
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that I would just be spending all day attacking him
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and just creating all the controversial statements I could
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to just stay in the news.
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I don't care about getting in the news
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over some stupid quibble.
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Again, I have opened up my Google news alerts
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when your name's mentioned
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and there's been 36,000 articles in one day about me.
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Remember all that?
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Now again, APs and 25,000, 30,000.
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I don't think individual tweets count as articles.
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It'll say, you know, 25,000,
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just one AP article will be that.
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It was like every day, 10,000, 20,000, 18,000.
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Some days, 36,000.
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Every nightly news show.
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Remember, I'm the devil.
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I'm hurting families of dead kids.
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All that garbage, every 300 plus million
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off of charity saying I was victimizing the parents.
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I did none of it.
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No one pissed on their graves.
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No one came to their houses.
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No one did anything.
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It was just all made up.
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Alex just defamed the families again
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saying that all the things they said about him were made up.
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I'm not sure if anyone can prove
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that someone peed on a grave,
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but those parents also didn't claim that anyone did.
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They claimed that someone contacted them
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and said that he had peed on their kid's grave.
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And I'm sure that they can prove that.
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The bigger problem is that there are multiple parents
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who can demonstrably prove that people showed up
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to their house and stalked them,
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specifically Wolfgang Halbig,
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who Alex was promoting and fundraising for on his show.
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If there was a functional system of law,
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he should go to jail for that.
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He's directly doing the exact same thing
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that he's been bankrupted for.
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Yeah, but you know, it was really nice to hear,
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it was really nice to read so many articles at the time
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where Alex admitted finally
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that he had wronged the parents.
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It felt good.
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It felt good to read so many articles.
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Yep. Yep.
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So Alex, he thinks like,
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I don't need to attack back.
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I'm cool, I'm fine.
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Out of your mind.
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It's not the issue that he even attacked me.
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That's a side issue.
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It's that he is literally pushing
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Democrat party talking points via Mark Levin.
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And we know it's Mark Levin because it's word for word.
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I mean, I knew when I saw it yesterday.
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But I'm not gonna go ape and just start attacking Trump here.
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Now, I don't think having Roger on saying nice things
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about him is gonna make him be nice to me.
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I'm like, oh, please don't hurt me.
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For me personally, it's good to break away from Trump
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because he's never helped me any of that.
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But because he was better for the country, the Democrats,
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I just took it.
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But just like I didn't care about all the attacks,
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I don't care about CNN playing clubs to me and MSNBC
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and all, what does that do?
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Nothing, they have tiny audiences.
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I hate being associated with them.
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But I have to tell the truth.
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So I don't know if it's just because he said ape there,
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but I feel like he's been domesticated.
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That's a good way of putting it.
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Yeah, he's been tamed in some way that like,
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this is not, this doesn't make sense.
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Nope.
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You're holding on to something that is meaningless
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in the face of meaningful attacks.
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I mean, this is fucked up.
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This is fucked up.
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It is fucked up because I'm watching a man
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who has been kept in a cage for 10 years,
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have the cage opened and have the guy say,
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leave, I want you gone, get out of this cage.
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And he closes the cage door while he's still inside it.
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It is depressing.
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It makes you think of like, I don't know if this is true,
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but it's something I've heard.
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So I didn't fact check this, I don't know if it's accurate.
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But people tell you that if you chain an elephant
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up to a tree, it doesn't know that it can like,
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break the tree and just walk off.
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It just feels like it's chained to this tree
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and will stay there.
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That's what Alex feels like.
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Feels very much like that.
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He could break this tree,
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but there must be something else.
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It's there.
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There's a psychological impediment
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or something that he knows Roger knows.
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And it's just sad.
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It's a bummer.
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He has a shock collar.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, genuinely, genuinely,
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I honestly want to help him right now.
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I don't.
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I do, I do.
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I want to be like, fucking, I can yell?
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Isn't this fascinating the way
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that our positions have even reversed?
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I used to want to help him and you said fuck him.
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Here's the problem.
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I don't like a man who's lost his ability to yell.
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That's a personal thing for me.
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I just, I would like to see him lose.
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I would like to see him fail,
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but I want to lose.
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I want to see him lose in a fight.
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You know, not like this.
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Well, I mean, you were the three time
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state yelling champion.
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I have yelled.
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I dreamed of one day finding a box of money.
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I have yelled many a person down.
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Yep.
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So Alex was working out that morning,
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really getting some curls in.
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Good call.
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You know, really.
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Yep.
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And he decided I'm burning Trump.
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Fuck him.
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Good.
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This morning I had made the decision
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while I was lifting weights.
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So you get blood pumping,
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your brain's really working well.
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And hit the weights, do some aerobic moves.
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That's the workout we're doing this morning.
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I was pouring sweat.
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Nice 80 minute workout.
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And I said,
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I'm just going to score church Trump
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to get him back on track.
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Only way to do it is to go after him viciously.
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Because I mean, look.
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The Democrats are infinitely more corrupt than him.
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He wasn't really corrupt the first term.
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The insider trading now,
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all the kids of the cabin officials,
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it is just robbery town.
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And I'm like, am I going to just sit here
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and wait for Todd Blanchard and dive in for something?
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I need to just sit here and wait for Trump to attack me.
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But I'm like, well, I need him to get back on track.
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I need him to just turn things around.
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But I'm also sitting here like,
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I'm not your average bear.
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Like I know a lot.
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And I know right where to hit everything.
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And you're like, well, you're responsible to do that.
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Yeah, but it's like paltry compared to the big picture.
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It's, and I mentioned a lot of it,
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but I don't want to overthink it.
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But I'm just telling Trump something right now.
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The global has sued my family
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who wasn't even involved with me and bankrupted them.
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Except they were attacked.
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I've been through a lot of stuff.
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They think you're stupid.
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And if I see any inkling with Mark Levin,
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everybody talking about me being de-platformed again,
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and you're calling for everybody's arrest.
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If I see any of that,
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and it's not like I'm saying this so you leave me alone.
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I'm on the verge of it,
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but there's so much, the Democrat is so much worse
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that I don't want to make my full-time show
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a war against Trump.
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But if you, here's the thing,
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you've already shit all over me.
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And if you try to rub it in,
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I just, at that point, I don't care anymore.
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So if you think I've been coming after you,
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if you think that I'm trying to get clicks
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by attacking you so the Democrats
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that don't buy anything from me and don't like me,
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want to put me in jail.
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If you think I've been on your ass,
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say one more thing, one more thing.
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Oh, say one more thing.
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And more Loomer, send him this.
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Say five or 6,000 more things.
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When I'm going through hell back in your ass,
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because you were the lesser of two evils,
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then I'm going to show you how to cow it to cabbage.
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Do one more thing.
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You should be kissing my ass.
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But instead, you shit all over me and rub it in.
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Okay. Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I think that after talking to Roger,
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Alex knew and knows.
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He's not going anywhere.
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And that Trump doesn't give a shit about what he says.
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Not even a little bit.
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And I think that there's a little bit of freedom with that,
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because I think that probably when they were talking,
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Roger is like, Trump isn't mad at you.
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He doesn't care.
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You don't exist.
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He was attacking you as a just, this is what he does.
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Yeah. We don't even know why.
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Yeah. There's no why.
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There's just, he did.
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It's because most people back down to stuff like this.
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Yeah. You know, like it works.
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Like Alex.
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It works like 90% of the time or whatever.
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So it's a good strategy.
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Just be a bully.
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Just be a bully.
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So I have to assume that Alex understood that
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and was like, well, okay.
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So if I say some shit, Trump's not even gonna hear it.
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He's not gonna care, whatever.
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I can save some face and he's not gonna respond.
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Right.
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So I can be like, I'm taking the high road,
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but you motherfucker, you say one more thing
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about my family.
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I will fucking work you.
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One more thing.
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Jesus Christ.
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This is his win-win because he gets to be like,
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all right, fuck you.
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You shit in my face.
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Don't rub it in.
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What do you know?
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All this, I care about the principles and saving America.
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I'm not in this petty fight.
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Sure.
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He gets to do that.
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And then he also gets to try and taunt Trump
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to say something else to keep the cycle going.
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Right.
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And I think that he knows that either way
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it's the best way out of the situation.
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Cause Trump and Roger don't care.
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He can't hurt them.
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Yeah.
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And if Trump says nothing,
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pretending like I told him you say one more fucking thing.
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Yeah.
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If it's radio silence for another 10 years
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and it doesn't get mentioned by Trump,
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he can act like this scolding really worked.
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Yeah.
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And if Trump does say one more thing,
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then Alex is free to then do the blow up that we all want.
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Right.
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He can go get that bottle of Tito's and make it work.
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He won't because this is his one.
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Cause he'll say just one more thing that time.
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Sure.
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The thing about Sampson,
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and this is what's very important about Sampson, right?
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He got fucked.
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He lost.
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He realized he lost.
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And then he was like,
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I got to take this whole thing down.
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He didn't go,
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hey, if you guys cut off my hair one more time,
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I am going to write a very certainly worded letter.
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No, he grabbed the whole fucking place
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and he brought it down around his ears.
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Cause you can't fuck with me like that.
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But that's why we still tell tales of that
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and not people who are-
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Right, and not Alex.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip
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and it's just him begging Trump to say something.
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Just say it to my face.
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Jesus Christ.
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Go ahead.
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Say one more thing about me.
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Go ahead and attack me one more time.
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Hold me back.
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Hold me back.
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And you'll find out.
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Because I,
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know where to hit you.
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Leave me alone.
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I don't want to be at your Marlago, your tuxedos,
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bunch of parrots posing.
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I'm not looking for government contracts.
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I've never asked for anything.
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Ed Martin contacted me and said incredible evidence
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of the government attacking you.
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They had all the proof.
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The DOJ funding the lawsuits, ringing and all.
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And he's a great guy.
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And then Todd Blanche kills it and then calls me a kook
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and says, I don't deserve to have my rights defended.
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And I'm in civil rights lawsuits.
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You know, that's fine.
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I didn't blame Trump.
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I just said, okay, I'll take it.
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But I will not take any more of your crap.
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Oh.
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Did you take too much?
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Your betrayals, your narcissism,
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the open kleptocratic insider trading
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that is just wholesaling your administration.
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I've mentioned it, but said, yeah,
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it's just par for the course now.
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But,
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I'm not looking for a fight, but if you want one,
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you came to the right place.
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So I'm like a rattlesnake.
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They're not a really aggressive snakes.
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Water moccasins come after you and bite you.
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Cobras come after you.
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I'm like rattlesnakes trying to get away.
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I'm like, hey, leave me alone.
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Hey, please don't step on me.
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God, that really hurts.
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Please stop.
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Oh, not, oh, your daddy's over here.
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Let me step on your mommy.
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Let me step on your kids.
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And I'm just like, all right.
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They think you're stupid.
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I'm like Darth Vader looking at her Palpatine,
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looking like Skywalker.
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I'm like, all right.
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I'm gonna politically throw you down the reactor shaft
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in two seconds.
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And just say, does Alex Jones bluff?
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No, I don't.
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He bluffs.
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You think I'm intimidated by you, Trump,
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the president of the United States?
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He says intimidated.
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They're intimidated by your hit teams, all the rest of it.
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Whatever, man, you got God to deal with.
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I wanna focus on the midterms, the Democrats.
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I wanna promote what good you're doing.
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And I want to be left alone.
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If you let Laura Loomer and that Israeli operative
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sit there and chew on me like I'm some chew toy, I'm done.
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Because you're an idiot.
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Two inches, two inches.
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You think I've been attacking you for years, buddy?
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I've been trying to defend you for years.
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So, I'll tell you one more time.
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Do not cross that line.
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Leave me alone.
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You ought to kiss.
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Oh, Jones would be on my side if I talked to him.
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I haven't tried to talk to you.
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I don't even return your phone calls, Trump.
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You know that.
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I didn't take your advice.
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I don't wanna be around what you're involved in, buddy.
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Like what?
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I think that during that segment,
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Alex definitely told them music cues.
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Because it starts with No More Mr. Nice Guy.
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And goes out with, so be it, friends no more.
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Yeah, this is definitely on purpose choices.
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I had to get this off my chest
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and I wanted to be a little dramatic about it.
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Which I applaud.
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Any kind of preparation is nice.
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It is.
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It's better than, well, most of what he did.
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So, because we're recording this on Saturday,
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I don't know what Alex's Saturday show is
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or if he even did one or what.
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But there's two ways that I think that this could be taken.
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Okay.
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One is he's desperately begging Trump
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to say something about him again
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so they can get the feud going and sell the pay-per-view.
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Maybe.
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You know, like pro wrestling type hype.
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It's not good if you give it away on free television.
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You know, like you have to build to the big match.
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And so maybe there's a part of it that is that
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and that's what he's trying to do.
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But the other part is kind of just,
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I think the other possibility is he's trying to save face
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because he knows that Roger and Trump don't care.
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And this will be about it for him talking about this.
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No, I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before
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on the show, but the Facebook lady
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who worked for Facebook for 20 years
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and I read her dumb book and like 15 different times,
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she was like, and that's when I knew I had to quit.
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And then she got fired and that's why she wrote the book.
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She would have stayed there.
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Right.
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She would have stayed there forever.
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It doesn't matter.
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They could do whatever they want to her.
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And then when they threw her aside, they didn't care.
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Right.
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They didn't care.
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And then the best thing you can do is try and create
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some kind of heroics out of decisions you could have made,
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didn't make, should have made.
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And a lot of them, a lot of the times, if you can,
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you pretend you did make them.
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Yeah.
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So Alex will probably be like, yeah,
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I couldn't go along with the Epstein stuff.
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Just like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Yeah, it's important to, before you write a memoir,
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think about, am I the person who did stuff
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or am I the person who should have done stuff
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and then got fired?
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And then if you're the latter, don't write it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that we come to the end of this little ride.
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And what a day.
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What a 24 hour period.
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This was a roller coaster.
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He had a miracle on air.
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Dark Waters started singing.
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They had a battle ax.
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Trump shit in his face.
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And then he and Harrison had the weeniest responses to it
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that you could imagine.
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The hype that you gave me, right, delivered first off.
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But second, delivered in an unexpected way.
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I've gone everywhere emotionally.
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I have gone all across this whole gamut
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in a way that I haven't in quite a while.
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It's been very easily unpredictable.
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And I think that it peaked a little early, you know,
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in terms of like the things that are delights.
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Yeah.
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And it ends kind of depressingly.
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And that kind of doesn't feel great.
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Well, I mean, it's supposed to end like that.
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This doesn't have a happy ending.
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No, that's true.
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This is more tragedy than-
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Yeah, we're not watching the meteoric phoenix
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appear from the ashes of Alex.
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We are watching a phoenix get shit on until it dies.
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Yep.
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So I don't know.
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We'll see what happens on Saturday.
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But I think it's either going to be fucking amazing
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or boring as hell.
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It's going to be so boring.
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It's one of the two.
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And history has shown me that it's often more boring.
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But who knows?
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Get him a bottle.
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Somebody get him some wild turkey and let's go.
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Let's have a good time.
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So we'll see what happens.
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But until we find out, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm a DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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