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It's time to pray
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knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge Fight. Riddle work, riddle work, riddle work.
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it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the
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air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a fifth-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love
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your work. Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight dot com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome
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back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I'd like to sit around,
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worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we
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are. Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot
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today buddy? My bright spot today, probably unexpected. Okay. And this is a little bit,
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you know, off of, hey, it's a little weird. Sure. You got, you stepped in it my man. Oh
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no. What did I step in? So much feedback about the dark side of the moon thing. Oh. So many
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people messaging him, I can't believe Jordan doesn't know about it. I understand the concept.
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I just think of it as the far side. Right. Of the moon. I don't really. Right, right,
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right. I don't even really, I don't, I'm not that interested in space. Yeah. Honestly.
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So I just accepted the way you were framing it. Right. Right. Right. No, I like space.
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I like space. I understand the concept. People are coming at you. I get it. This was chumbawumba
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levels. I'm trapped in this situation, right? Where it's like, no matter what I do, it's
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terrible because I could be like, ah, I knew it. Or I could be like, it was a joke that
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failed. And then the real problem is that I suck right at doing the joke part. Or I
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could be like, ah, you know what? Yeah, I'm fucking dumb. How about that? How about that
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motherfuckers? I'm stupid. And see, this is why it's a nice bright spot because I'm kind
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of stupid too. I didn't in the moment feel like I had the comfort to be like, hold on
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Jordan. That's dumb. So we can, you know, it's a nice reminder that we all can be dumb
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about some stuff sometimes. I'm dumb as shit. Yeah. Come at me. Tell me how stupid I am.
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I'm free. Yeah. It's pretty sweet. Um, anyway, some of that feedback was nice and it charmed
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me. Yeah. Uh, what's your bright spot? Uh, my bright spot is, uh, Shohei Ohtani.
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Shohei Ohtani, my friend. Uh, right now. Okay. So Shohei Ohtani has won, uh, all the MVP
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awards that one can win. I hear he's good. Uh, he's, he's done things that nobody's ever
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done before. He had a 50 home run and 50 stolen base season, which nobody's ever done before.
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Uh, uh, he's, he's just astonishing. And this year, uh, he's going to try and win the Cy Young
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award, uh, which means he's going to also try and be not just a great pitcher, but the
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best pitcher in the league. Which is probably attainable, right? I mean, that's the problem.
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That's the problem. Currently he's, he's pitched 12 innings and given up zero runs, right?
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It is, it is within his talent level to do something. The problem I have with it is this,
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right? He can do it just because he really wants to. That should not be okay.
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But also you kind of imagine that, like what kind of wear and tear is he doing on himself
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if he, if he, if he keeps that up for the rest of the season? You can't, it's crazy.
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Yeah. But you know what, do you know what's keeping him from doing it? That it's impossible.
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And he bet on himself. Right? I mean, I don't like it. I don't like it whenever a guy can do
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an impossible thing just because he really wants to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You, you always
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feel like there should be, you know, come on man. The body can't do this. Yeah. You
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shouldn't. No, you can't do this. I'm proud of you for having the will. Absolutely. It's
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nice of you, but there should be things that are unattainable. It feels like this takes
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away some excuses that you have. There are no excuses other than this is a multi-generational
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talent made of some sort of magical material. I guess so. Yeah. I'm not made of that. My
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knees hurt all the time. And always have. All the time. Yeah. So let me ask you this.
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I've not kept up with baseball in a long time. Sure, sure, sure. But I remember Ken Griffey
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Jr. being so cool. Oh, he's super cool. Is Shohei Ohtani as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was?
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Shohei Ohtani is not as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was. First off, never wears his cap backwards.
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Sure. Maybe he does, but it doesn't matter. He doesn't rock it. Rockin' Jock doesn't exist anymore.
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And secondly, he's got too much pressure. The entire nation of Japan puts pressure on him all the time.
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Right? You can't be cool if you also have the responsibility to represent an entire country.
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Yeah, I guess so. Whereas Ken Griffey, he was cool as shit. Yeah. He was playing with house money.
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He was a junior. He was so cool. His dad was already great at baseball. And then he was like,
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what if I'm going to be one of the 10 best guys ever anyways? And the coolest. And so cool.
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Yeah. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right. And I'm hoping I'm pulling for Shohei.
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Get the cycle of awards. Just to win everything. Just win it all. Fine. Yeah.
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I mean, he can. He can. Because he wants to. Just because he wants to.
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So we have an episode to go over today and we're going to be talking about April 3rd, 2026.
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All right. We are here in this period where Alex is figuring out how the fuck am I going to get away from Trump.
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This shit is bad. He's threatening to blow up a whole country. There is that.
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He's firing his Attorney General. Oh, God. Everything's a mess. It's not going well.
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So we have a fun episode today. But before we get into it, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, I think that's a great idea. So first, Big Dick's Mystery Meet, home of the 4-inch footlong.
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Our brats are the worst, but you can't beat our wieners. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Liz T. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Waluigi isn't even Wario's brother.
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He's just a guy Wario hired so he'd have a tennis doubles partner. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I think a lot of this lore is unexplored.
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And some of it's open to interpretation, but I do agree they're not necessarily brothers.
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We had a technocrat in the mix, so thank you so much to Honky Wonk Bononk-a-Nonk. Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So today, before we get into the episode proper, I got an out of context drop for you.
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If we start putting drips on the ground and they get repulsed or pinned down, then Trump is going to be like, oh, well I pull out now. I'm a weenie forever.
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Oh no. Oh no. He's a weenie forever.
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Oh boy. I do, I do appreciate the idea that we should be concerned about whether or not our presidents are like, well, this may be the right decision, but I can't look like a weenie. So I'm going to have to kill everybody.
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I called Moscow and they said that they were rubber and I was glue.
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Ah, there's nothing I can do.
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Sorry, I can't be a weenie guys. Y'all gotta go.
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It's so dumb that he's talking about like nuclear war and Trump being a weenie.
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Yep. Yeah. That's how we live.
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So we start off this episode and Alex, last we heard from him on our show, he was talking a fair amount about orbs everywhere.
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They were great.
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And it turns out that I think he's leaning into the idea that there's a fake alien disclosure that's about to happen.
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All right.
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Well, Congressman Tim Burchett has a lot of credibility with me.
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He didn't go along with the Republicans or the Democrats on the Epstein cover up. Just a lot of other things.
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You tell he's the real deal. His voting record is excellent.
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And he was asked yesterday with the clip coming up.
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On Fox News about former Congressman Gates being briefed about alien human hybrids by the Army.
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He said, well, I can't give you classified information, but he said just what we were shown two weeks ago would terrorize the entire population.
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And you just wouldn't even believe it.
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He says Americans would freak out if they knew what Congress has been told.
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Now, I've been on top of this for a long time.
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And I can tell you, most of what Congress has given most of the guests and I'm not putting Joe Rogan down.
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He knows a lot of them are full of it. He's always trying to figure out who's accurate. He's not. He asked me all the time.
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Hmm.
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Well, come on, as these DOD whistleblowers and just put out absolute crap.
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So they're flooding the zone with a bunch of disinformation.
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But there's also a lot of real stuff going on.
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If Alex wants to get any points for saying that many of Rogan's guests are full of shit and that Rogan knows that a lot of them are full of shit, then I'm going to need him to name some names.
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Yeah.
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As long as he just speaks in these kind of vague terms, it's almost like not criticizing Rogan's guests at all.
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And this is a bigger problem than it appears to be at first, because Alex is saying that he talks to Joe about how some of his guests are full of shit.
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That means that in theory, Rogan is presenting bullshitters to his audience as experts, knows they're bullshitters, and doesn't let his audience in on the fact that they're bullshitters.
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He might even let them come back on the show and let them lie about what they said about Sandy Hook.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's crazy what he might allow.
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Yep.
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If Rogan knows that some of his guests are running psyops on his audience, then he has an obligation to protect them from those psyops, or else he's complicit in them.
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So it would be good for Alex, and even more so for Joe, to go on the record about who the people are who've used him as a megaphone to manipulate his huge audience.
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Yeah.
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Also, I'm glad that Alex is proud of Representative Burchette for not going along with the Epstein cover-up, but the problem is that Alex using that as a mark of credibility, it reminds you that Alex was fine going on the show.
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He was super cool with going along with it.
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That wasn't a deal breaker for him, and his main problem was that Trump wouldn't shut up about it, whereas Alex prefers a more silent, Stonewall kind of cover-up.
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Mm-hmm.
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So Burchette has been talking a bunch of shit lately about aliens, but to be fair to him, he's been doing that for a long time.
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His most recent comments have come because he's introduced a bill seeking to get rid of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or the AARO.
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So the AARO is an office in the Department of Defense that handles alien and UFO reports, and Burchette's bill would take that centralized office away and delegate their responsibilities to a bunch of other offices so it would be harder to cover up aliens.
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Okay, I gotcha.
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Alright, so it's like a dead, it's like whenever you send a letter to every attorney before you go confront the guy in case they kill you, they'll be like, ah, the letter's coming out no matter what.
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I guess so.
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Gotcha.
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But like, just the presentation of this, when you look at it at first, it doesn't seem insane.
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The idea that there's one centralized DOD office that's responsible for the UFO stuff, that sounds like X-Files stuff, and we don't need that in the real world.
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That's true.
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Burchette claims that there's been like this decades-long cover-up, and it seems like if there's just one office that covers this stuff, then maybe that could be a bottleneck.
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It would be easier to cover it up if there was only one office.
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Right.
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And the computers were probably 20 years old because it's the government.
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They're not even using computers, they're using like weird punch card things.
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Absolutely, yeah, they're probably using weird punch card things.
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They're communicating via piano.
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Ironic, considering the magic technology that the aliens give them.
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Mm-hmm.
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Unfortunately, this office was created in 2022, partially because of people like Burchette who were yelling about how the government needed to take aliens more seriously.
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Right, yeah, there is that.
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This is a big old who cares.
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If aliens exist and have technology that everyone imagines they see in the skies, then we're fucked if they want to hurt us.
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They're by definition a benevolent force because they could crush us but don't, so they aren't nearly as big of a threat to humans as the Trump administration.
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If they were going to, they could have, so why worry about if they will?
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Right, they haven't yet.
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Yeah.
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Which is, that speaks volumes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Anyone who cares a ton about this stuff right now seems very suspicious to me.
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Even if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of the idea that the government is going to fake some kind of disclosure, I still think that's trying to distract from the real world issues we're facing.
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Maybe.
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Trump is threatening to kill civilization, so not treating that like an immediate crisis and spending your time rambling about aliens, it kind of still feels like covering for Trump.
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Yeah.
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It's weird.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's a bit like if somebody elected Goldfinger president, but I guess that's how it works.
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Or Goldmember.
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Or Goldmember also.
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Mm-hmm.
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Let me ask you a question, because I think we've been, not to use the term predictive programming, but in terms of the imagination of what aliens could do, I think we've got the gamut.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, we've got the, they blow us up, we've got the, they got magic technology.
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They fuck around a little bit, they're pranksters.
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Absolutely.
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We've got the men in black version.
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What exactly would freak the public out so much that you can't tell us anymore?
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Hmm.
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You know what I mean?
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I think, you know what, I was actually kind of thinking about that a little bit.
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Yeah?
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I think if you gave everyone a week off work, that they could, like, deal with this, with their families.
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Hey everybody, there's aliens.
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We got, we know it's gonna take some time, so we're gonna, we're gonna send everybody dinner for the next week.
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Yeah.
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And then you can deal with that, and then we'll be back to work.
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Yeah, if everyone was, like, able to safely process it with people that they can connect with, I don't know.
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I don't think people would have that one harder.
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I also, I also don't, because you're right, like, if we're at the stage where they want to kill us, if you can travel through time and space to get to us, you've already won.
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You've already won.
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There's nothing we can do to stop you.
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Yeah, and the fact that you haven't killed us should, like, we should take that as a sign of good faith.
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Absolutely, because we've got it coming.
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If you're from space and you're like, I don't know, maybe we should kill civilizations that are bad, and you saw us, you'd be like, yep, this is the line.
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This is the Mendoza line. Anything worse than this, we gotta get it out of here.
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What if the aliens are around, but they're just not on Twitter, so they don't know all this stuff?
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We don't get social media. How are you guys, how do you guys even talk to each other?
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Yeah.
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So you're talking about the imagination about aliens.
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Sure.
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And predictive programming.
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Yeah.
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And Alex actually talks a little bit about that in the context of Ridley Scott.
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Okay.
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And it was Ridley Scott, when he made Prometheus, the prequel to Alien, told the New York Times years after it came out, and I said this when it came out, I said, this is the elite's creation story.
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None of them are atheists, none of them believe we came from evolution on its own, but directed evolution, accelerated evolution, and this is what they believe.
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Because I've been around these people. And they do. And then he has this big interview years later saying, oh, this is my religion.
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This is my, this is how I think the Earth was actually made.
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You notice it's the aliens are humanoid giants, 10, 12 feet tall.
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And they've got a bio weapon that they use to kill other humanoid colonies that they don't like, because they've seeded us here,
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and they're sending ships from their attack base out to wipe our planet out.
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Sure.
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And that's why it's interesting, later humans get to a development level and go back out and, well, they shot at us and missed, but shit at us and hit.
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So, and that's what's in the Anunnaki legends, and in all of that is that God decided to wipe us out, because we've been mixed with another alien species he didn't like.
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So, this is all about to come out, folks.
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Okay. So I was reading through interviews that Ridley Scott did about the alien Prometheus, and I found this bit from 2024 when, or 2025 when he was promoting Gladiator 2, and I just have to share this with you.
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Okay, okay.
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Quote, to sidetrack a moment, my sport was always tennis, and I became reasonably good.
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But when you get that good, you'd be, better play five times a day, five days a week.
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I watched a documentary on the retirement of Roger Federer.
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It's three parts, just fantastic.
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Federer begins, and in his soft English said, I know I'm gonna cry.
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He's about to have his last matches with Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic.
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He talks about the game, and I'm paralleling that with what my game is, which is feature film.
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I thought, good God, if I had to retire at 40 from filmmaking when I've just began my new career, I wouldn't know what to do.
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I'm sure Roger's got it all planned out, he's a very smart man, but there's one thing you'll always miss.
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You miss Nadal across that net.
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Mm-hmm.
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To clarify, he was asked a question about how he felt about James Cameron directing the second Alien movie instead of him.
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And if that factored into his decision to insist on directing the Gladiator sequel, and that was where his mind went.
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Yes, yes. He and James Cameron are in a death spiral.
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Yes.
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But, so much respect.
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Absolutely.
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Oh man, I remember that documentary and I cried a lot.
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You and Ridley Scott could sit down and talk about it.
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I mean, it's amazing to know that Ridley Scott and I have a lot in common.
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Yeah, if I had more time, I probably would have gotten deep in a hole of watching interviews with him.
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Yeah.
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Because the transcripts of them that I was reading over were like, this guy seems fucking insane.
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Seems like a good interview.
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Yeah, that does sound right.
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I've read a bunch of the interviews that he did about Prometheus and he doesn't say that he based it on the Globalist's Creation myth.
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He tends to bring up Milton's Paradise Lost and when he was promoting Gladiator 2, he literally said he was quote,
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asleep at the wheel when he was making Prometheus.
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Wow.
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I'm glad Alex has decided that it's a secret revelation of the Devil's beliefs or whatever though. That's fun.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I kept that in mostly because I found the tennis thing.
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Yeah, that's fun. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:00.980)
Yeah, no problem.
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Oh, good to hear about.
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I wonder, okay, is it just that Elrond was like, fuck it, I'll do it.
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Is that the only thing that keeps all of these guys from starting their own religion?
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Like, could Ridley Scott have just spun Prometheus into like, Dianetics and then moved on and became Scientology guy?
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No.
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Is it there?
Unknown Speaker (00:19:23.980)
No, well, look, I'm not a Ridley Scott scholar.
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I mean, you've just said he's insane.
Unknown Speaker (00:19:27.980)
So that's a mark in his favor for starting Scientology.
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But I think he's the kind of insane that wouldn't allow himself to take it that seriously.
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And want to go make another Gladiator picture.
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Yeah.
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I think he likes film and he likes weird ideas.
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Yeah, you can't make Kingdom of Heaven and want to take over the world.
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And here's where I think he doesn't have the narcissism that's necessary to have a religion.
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He was asked about James Cameron doing Avatar with all digital stuff.
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Yeah.
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And he was making a big deal of how he made Gladiator practical.
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Right, right, right.
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And he wasn't mean about James Cameron using digital CGI.
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He's like, ah, Jim does it different.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:09.980)
That's the way of being mean.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:10.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:11.980)
That's the way of being mean.
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If I live my life completely different from you, I am absolutely telling you that you're doing it wrong.
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Maybe, maybe.
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I think Scott's above it.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:20.980)
Fair enough.
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So Alex said something in the early going of this episode that got me pretty excited.
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It is Friday, April 3rd, 2026.
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I am your embattled host coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin, transmitting worldwide.
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I'm going to spend the third and fourth hour on humanity's origin story to understand the present.
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You must know the past and the beginning.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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And if you believe the Bible, if you believe the Sumerian texts that are carbon stone,
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if you believe the Egyptian text, if you believe all the books of the Bible that they confirm were written after Christ's death.
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On papyrus, I guess.
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But pulled out.
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It's war of the worlds, baby.
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But the church does not want you to know that.
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Both the Orthodox and the Catholics.
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And it is a fact.
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And it is what the establishment knows and what they've been keeping from everybody.
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Two hours of this show is going to be Alex just rambling about stuff from movies and books by Zacharias Sitchin and things that he half remembers from episodes of Ancient Aliens.
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Better believe it.
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This is a man who doesn't want to talk about Trump.
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Absolutely not.
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I know that this show isn't really tied too closely to reality, but this editorial decision should be seen for what it is, which is cowardice.
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Trump was sold to Alex's audience as someone who knew about the globalist plots and was working to stop them.
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If the globalist plots go back to Sumeria and the beginning of human history, then it's pretty implausible to believe that Trump could have ever known about them, been on the right side, and then all of a sudden went bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:06.980)
That's just not believable.
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A good rule of thumb is that Alex takes, he's talking too seriously about aliens.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:13.980)
That's a sign that things are going really well for him or really bad.
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If he feels on top of the world and he's drunk with Rogan, he'll ramble about how he knows the secrets of the universe, and if he's run out of every single excuse on Earth for Trump, he'll retreat to the stars.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:29.980)
And I think that's what he's trying to do here.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:31.980)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is the equivalent of being outside and helping to plan a bank robbery, and then being outside and when the cops are walking by and running in, you just go...
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Maybe flick a coin in the air.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Never involved with this, gotta get out of here. Goodbye, Eve.
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Check your watch.
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Never s- oh, who are those people? Get them! Get them, officers!
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Yeah, there's something really like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
Unknown Speaker (00:22:58.980)
Yeah, 100%.
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Uh, it's kind of funny.
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There's something to it.
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So, Alex is talking about Sumerian stone tablets and what have you.
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Written in stone.
Unknown Speaker (00:23:08.980)
Right. That brings him to Gilgamesh.
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Okay.
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Where we fighting on against flesh and blood.
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But against off-world entities.
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Read it, it's in the Bible, pull it up.
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New Testament, Old Testament.
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And what's the end?
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Pull the whole thing up, now!
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Sumerian text, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Anunnaki, it's the same story in the first book of the Bible.
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The first book of the Bible.
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And boy, have you heard of this before.
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All about a global elite working with off-world aliens.
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And the aliens decide that the humans, there's too many of them.
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And so they re-engineer us to be slower, stupider, infertile.
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What does the Old Testament tell you? That people are living 800 years on average.
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But then God, or the gods, cursed us and engineered us to only live 75 on average.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:15.980)
Well that's the Epic of Gilgamesh.
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That's the Sumerians.
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Not really.
Unknown Speaker (00:24:20.980)
Nope. That's sort of in the background of the story of Gilgamesh.
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But that's not what's going on there.
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That maybe is a part of the deeper mythology.
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But the character Gilgamesh wants to find the secret to eternal life.
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But he learns that it's not really possible and that death is part of how God created man.
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The story includes a flood myth, which is a parallel to the story in the Bible about Noah.
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Gilgamesh meets the guy who survived the flood by building an ark, who was given the gift of immortality by the gods because he saved humanity with a boat.
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So that is one immortality that's in there.
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In Genesis 6, God just decides that humans were living too long, so he set the limit at 120 years.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:04.980)
I mean, I would still say that's probably too long, but it's better than 1000.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:09.980)
And I have bad news. There was a French lady who died in 1997 who was 122.
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So it seems like it's not a firm rule.
Unknown Speaker (00:25:16.980)
Cram it, God!
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One of the main reasons that people lived so long in the Bible at the beginning and then they had much more normal lifespans is that they needed to mythologically connect the creation story of Adam with the destruction of the world and the flood.
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Noah is the 10th generation descendant of Adam and making that numerically fit requires the ancestors living way longer than people did.
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And that's mostly what's going on here.
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Let's face it. We cannot remember that many.
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This was an oral tradition before we invented writing. I can't remember that many names. I can't. I can't do it.
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So this guy lived 1000 years. Sure, he could have been 50 hundred guys.
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But you know what? He's just this guy.
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And I'm not saying that there's crazy number codes that you can decrypt and find magic powers, but numbers are significant.
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Ten generations is ten repeats.
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They're doing a thing. They're doing the thing.
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So that's part of the importance.
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We're humans. We like big round numbers. If you see a round number in real life, though, it's probably not real.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:18.980)
Or maybe the globalists back then were working with aliens to shorten humans' lifespans by putting something in the water.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:27.980)
Putting like atrazine in the water.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:29.980)
Here's my problem with all of these alien stories is that while I respect that aliens, I wouldn't be able to understand their motivations, obviously.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:38.980)
They're alien to me. Right?
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At the very least, I would expect somebody who is capable of traveling through a space faring species, right?
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Would at least have figured out a like, this is something we want or something we don't want kind of thing.
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There would be a benefit or an advantage to it.
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Why are they so inexplicably crazy?
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Just doing so many random shit for fun.
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Why 120?
Unknown Speaker (00:27:04.980)
I think it's because mostly they're being imagined.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:09.980)
That is, well, Dan, I know.
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And some of this stuff is literary.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:16.980)
Yeah, there is that.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:18.980)
Yeah, I don't know. But again, I do think you touched on something important, which is it's a fool's errand to try and understand alien motivations.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the Earth maybe is a big research facility that aliens are using to figure something out.
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Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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Look around, boys and girls. You're not in Kansas anymore and you never were.
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But there is so much baloney loaded into all of this and so much disinformation.
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But we know that with the genetic engineering and the level of science we have, this has been a phenomenon for 20 years.
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Nobody's an atheist anymore.
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Nobody thinks that salt in the ocean just turned into life.
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It was all put here.
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Nothing on this planet is from this planet.
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This planet is a giant research facility.
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A couple of mice.
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And it's had different owners and different groups.
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And you go to the ancient Indian Vedic text, 3000, 4000 years old, the oldest copies they found and things carved in stone.
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And all of it is mathematical equations that they now are able to translate that are super advanced.
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On energy and sound and everything else.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:47.980)
Oh, and the Indians have the exact same stories.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:51.980)
So I'm supposed to have my mind blown by the Indian texts having stories that match the Indian text.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:56.980)
Yeah.
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Feels like Alex is throwing spaghetti at the wall here.
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Wow.
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This is not good.
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Possible. Possible.
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So Alex is talking about a book that was published in 1965 called Vedic Mathematics.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:07.980)
It purports to be 16 sayings that illustrate mathematical principles that are derived from Vedic texts, but it was a hoax.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:14.980)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:15.980)
The writer just pretended that the things he wrote were connected to the Vedas, but it was mostly just stuff he came up with.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:20.980)
The book is mostly just cool math tricks you can do to impress your friends.
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Like, for example, you can multiply any number by five if you just cut it in half and put a zero at the end.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:29.980)
What?
Unknown Speaker (00:29:30.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:31.980)
Or if you want to put in a little more complexity, you can multiply any two digit number by 11 by separating the digits and then putting their sum in between them.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:39.980)
No. What? So that's like 121?
Unknown Speaker (00:29:42.980)
It's mathematical tricks.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:44.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:45.980)
And like mental math.
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Yeah.
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That's what they call new math now.
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Is it?
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Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:51.980)
Oh. I've heard that term.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:52.980)
So maybe it's because that guy is actually a genius and the Vedic tests were right there the whole time.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:58.980)
I don't know how to accurately express this, but this is the platonic ideal of an Alex source.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:04.980)
So many of his reference points are like they're books that are perfect for junior high students to use to make themselves feel smarter than their peers, and that's what this is.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:13.980)
Yeah.
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He used this book to feel smarter than everyone about math, just like he used none-dare-call-it conspiracy to feel smarter than everyone at school about politics and history.
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I get that. And I think it's awesome that some kids are contrarian as hell, but you're supposed to grow past this stage.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is in his 50s.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:31.980)
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Makes you really recognize why a guy would be attracted to somebody who is afraid of looking like a weenie should they back down from anything.
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Forever.
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Forever.
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A weenie forever.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:43.980)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to look like a weenie, says the junior high man trying to show off.
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That's so... it feels so right.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:51.980)
Yeah, it does. It really does. That's a good out-of-context rap.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:54.980)
So Alex, he brought up Gilgamesh earlier, and I'm like, has this boy been reading? Is he doing some flipping of pages?
Unknown Speaker (00:31:02.980)
Or he's playing Final Fantasy. There's a lot of Gilgamesh in there.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:04.980)
No, he's just on Twitter.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:06.980)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:07.980)
But you know what? Let's just go ahead and play a short little video, a little prelude from a video I saw on X a few days ago.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:17.980)
Well, just a little snapshot of the epic of Gilgamesh that they couldn't translate until, whatever, it was like 80 years ago, and then they found the decoding...
Unknown Speaker (00:31:29.980)
Sounds true!
Unknown Speaker (00:31:30.980)
...stones that explained how to decode it, and man, it's like reading a science fiction book. But it's not.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:37.980)
But it's not.
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But it's not.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:39.980)
Alex just plays this video of a guy that is on Twitter that is just talking about Gilgamesh.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:44.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:45.980)
It's mostly like background ancient aliens type explanations of Sumerian myths.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:50.980)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:51.980)
And stuff. But I was listening to this, and I was like, Alex has essentially outsourced what Jon Baum and Greg Reiss used to do by stealing people's content from Twitter.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:04.980)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a degree of separation where it was almost like a plausible deniability kind of thing.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:11.980)
Like, sure, I call them reporters, but they just troll the internet and grab stuff that is popular or going viral at any time, and then I talk about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:19.980)
Now he's just literally scrolling.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:21.980)
Well, I've seen the invoices. I know what Jon Baum was getting paid per video.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:27.980)
Alex used to have to pay him to find something that was on Twitter and then make his own video sort of covering it so Alex could play it on the show.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:36.980)
Now he just steals everyone's shit. And it's higher quality because people are actually trying.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:41.980)
Because they're making it themselves.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:42.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:43.980)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of Jon Baum rehashing it like Tosh or some shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:48.980)
He solved the problem of, like, he can't get any competent employees, and he doesn't have to pay anymore. Awesome.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:55.980)
It is the apotheosis of hiring by contest. What greater contest is there than just grabbing enough attention today?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:03.980)
Yeah. A contest you didn't know you were in.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:05.980)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:06.980)
You're not getting anything for it.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:07.980)
You can't win.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:08.980)
I guess maybe exposure.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:09.980)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:10.980)
You're in exposure.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:11.980)
Meh.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:12.980)
So Alex talks about how the aliens are in the Bible.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:15.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:16.980)
And they're also in things that aren't in the Bible but probably should be.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:19.980)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:20.980)
And it goes on from there. We'll air more of that later.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:21.980)
What else should be in the Bible?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:23.980)
That's been dug up all over those ancient sites.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:28.980)
And remember the Jews were held captive along with other groups by the Egyptians that were going along at the same time nearby.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:35.980)
You know, just 800 miles away or a thousand miles away or so.
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Bless.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:39.980)
And then they had their own writing.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:41.980)
And then they wrote about it in Genesis, which is essentially the same story.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:45.980)
And then there were what?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:46.980)
Is it?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:47.980)
Four books of the Bible that folks decided to cut out of the Bible.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:51.980)
Of the Old Testament.
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A couple out of the New.
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Confirmed books.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:56.980)
And it's all about that.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:57.980)
All the books about that.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:58.980)
You don't get to know about that.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:01.980)
And the preachers always tell you the Bible's literal except the parts of Ezekiel and Daniel and Revelation and Genesis to talk about all this.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:13.980)
And a bunch of other stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:15.980)
But you read the other books, which I intend to do on air soon.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:18.980)
I'm sorry?
Unknown Speaker (00:34:19.980)
The whole one?
Unknown Speaker (00:34:20.980)
It's just unbelievable, folks.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:22.980)
And it's unbelievable.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:24.980)
Alex really shouldn't open this door up because down this road is trouble.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:28.980)
It would be one thing if there are only a few books that weren't included in the Bible and they all happen to be about aliens or demons.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:35.980)
But the reality is that there's a ton of books that aren't in the Bible that arguably could be.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:41.980)
One very difficult question any religion has to answer is about the canon of what is divinely inspired and what isn't.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:49.980)
What bullshit do we want to work with?
Unknown Speaker (00:34:51.980)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:52.980)
And for someone in Alex's position who claims that God speaks to him and gives him prophecies, it's not worth it to debate this.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:58.980)
It's pretty well understood by religious studies scholars that many of the books in the canonical Bible have names that are attributed to them that they could not have written those books.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:09.980)
Of course. Of course not.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:10.980)
That was very common in literature at the time, so even though Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are theoretically supposed to have been written by the apostles, they were not.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:18.980)
The Dead Sea Scrolls included books that aren't in the canon and the Nag Hammadi Library had tons of excluded texts.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:25.980)
There's so much that could be in the Christian canon that isn't, and when you start to examine that fact and try to explain it, it's hard to escape the seemingly arbitrary nature of what's in and what's not.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:36.980)
No!
Unknown Speaker (00:35:38.980)
Once you start dealing with religious texts on this level, it has a tendency to take the divine out of the conversation, and that's not good for Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:46.980)
Let's tease this conversation out a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:48.980)
He's saying that these four books were kicked out of the Bible because the powers that be didn't want you to know what they said.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:55.980)
At the core, this is Alex saying that the canon of the Bible was decided as a means of maintaining social control because those books were too threatening to the people in power, so they excluded them.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:05.980)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:06.980)
In Alex's mind, there's a true Christianity, but these people were trying to wield power by putting the label of Christianity on their distorted version of the canon.
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I welcome this argument, and it's definitely something that history has provided examples of people doing, like the Slave Bible.
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But, if Alex wants to make this argument, he needs to get specific about what his canon is.
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He can't just gesture wildly at a copy of the lost books of the Bible and forgotten books of Eden and pretend that his work is done.
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He needs to give a reason why some books are in and some aren't, or he needs to admit it's just based off feelings.
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Yeah.
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Aliens and demons excite him, so the books that are about that kind of stuff, that's real Christianity.
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But the ones that are just a bunch of rules that he doesn't want to follow, those are boring.
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Yeah.
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So give him the boot.
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Yeah.
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The sacred should be treated as sacred, regardless of how fundamentally irrational it is, because once you start trying to bring rationality to bear on the sacred, everything collapses.
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Yeah.
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This is the space where Alex wants to have his cake and eat it too, where everything he talks about is documented and it's all this study, but he also has magic prophetic dreams.
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Yeah.
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It's just no good.
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Yeah.
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If you're a believer and somebody's like, what about all this stuff?
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You go like, presumably God can handle what goes in his own fucking book, am I right?
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He knows if it made it in, it's supposed to be.
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If it didn't, it's not supposed to be.
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I don't need to ask questions.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because the moment I ask questions, then it's like, well, what if it could be this?
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No, it can't be.
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It's just God.
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Right.
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There's a number of books that you could make very valid arguments for why they could be in.
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Sure.
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And there are denominations that have the Apocrypha as part of their canon.
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Absolutely.
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Why not?
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And there's strong arguments there.
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There's also strong arguments for why some books shouldn't be in the Bible.
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Yeah.
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You know, I guess if you get really crazy with it, you could just say like a Ray Bradbury
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story should be in the Bible.
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Why not?
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Why not?
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If it's a demonstrably useful parable of something that somebody could absolutely grow through
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learning about, then yeah, fuck it.
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Put it in there.
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That was part of the argument for why Luther included some of the Apocrypha in his Bible.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That helps.
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If it's fake, it can only be uplifting to Christians and it's a good lesson.
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Absolutely.
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What are we doing?
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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Anyway.
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Oh, that one story is about him fucking with wine.
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What are we doing?
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Make him fuck with other stuff.
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Who gives a shit?
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Throw it in there.
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Right.
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Let's see him make a motorcycle.
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Check this out.
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Butter, no churn.
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Can you believe that shit?
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Put it in the Bible.
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That's pretty crazy.
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That's pretty crazy.
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So, um, another thing that probably should be in the Bible.
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What?
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Plato.
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Yeah, because he talked about Atlantis and stuff and that should be in the Bible.
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Plato shouldn't be in the Bible.
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What?
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That's funny.
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Plato said where the Spartans lived.
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Spartans in the Spartan war.
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In grace?
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War with the Trojans.
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Where the Trojans lived.
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But before that, they weren't even sure the Trojans existed or where their city was or
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where their island was, but right where Plato was, archeologists never found it.
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And then they finally, what, 30-some years ago found a giant city that had just been
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basically buried in some later flood.
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And it was all there, Troy, just like Plato said.
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And Plato said tens of thousands of years before, there had been two cities.
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Atlantis was two.
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One was Atlantis, another name.
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It seems to me like if Alex actually believed this stuff, he wouldn't have difficulty coming
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up with the other magic city that existed in the past.
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It's really important.
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I'm pretty sure he's trying to remember the name Lemuria, but Plato doesn't mention the
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second city.
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Plato did, he didn't give a new location for where Troy was.
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He was just repeating what was already established in the Homeric oral tradition in the Iliad
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and the Odyssey.
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Right.
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They didn't find Troy 30 years ago.
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Heinrich Schliemann found it in the 1870s.
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People were initially skeptical of the excavation because it was believed that a different,
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already discovered city was probably Troy.
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But as he found more evidence, he built a strong case and brought people over to his
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side.
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That said, there's still skepticism in one sense, and that is that there's no evidence
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that the Homeric poems are true.
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Troy existing doesn't mean that there was a guy who fought there who was invincible
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except on his heel.
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In fact, I would argue that regardless, he probably wasn't.
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Sure.
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I think he was probably a good fighter if he was a person.
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Maybe.
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All that stuff, just the city could be there.
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Yeah.
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And this stuff does not have to be true.
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No.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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None of it.
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Also, get this.
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Yeah.
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This is going to blow your mind.
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Yeah.
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When a dude found Troy.
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Yeah.
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That was 20 years before we invented volleyball.
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That's how long ago it was.
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That's crazy.
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Volleyball did not exist.
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It is hard to imagine a world without volleyball.
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You can imagine before Naismith, you can be like, ah, where'd basketball come from?
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But volleyball, you just got to net and you hammer it.
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You got to think badminton existed before too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Why don't we do this with our hands?
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Why not?
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Lawn sports have existed for a lot longer, so just throw a volleyball in there.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Alex is saying that they found Troy 30 years ago, pre-volleyball.
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I want to say that 30 years ago is closer to when the movie Atlantis by Disney was released,
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starring Michael J. Fox.
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You make an interesting point.
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In it, he finds the Shepherd's Journal, very similar in story-wise how it works as to Plato's
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little thing.
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In it, they find the lost hidden city of Atlantis underground.
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Tough pitch coming from me here.
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That script also put it in the Bible.
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You know what?
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I really like that movie.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I think it's great.
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So we are in the third dimension right now.
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Sure.
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Physical space.
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Yup.
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Tapping on the desk.
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All right.
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And I feel like it's real, but there's other dimensions that are more real.
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I don't think that's possible.
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All these ancient cultures in the Bible tell us that there are dimensional realities more
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real than ours.
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We now know with mathematics that's true.
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And that our minds are able to connect to that electrochemically, which they are, that
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our brains are transceivers, all of our cells are.
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And that we're given messages through the ether.
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What's ether?
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And that's what all the different cultures would do, was rituals and hallucinogens to
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have group hallucinations, which there's no such thing, that it raises the veil so that
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you can now see beyond.
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And as your brain already sees it, it filters it out, and you can only see a limited light
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spectrum in the third dimension.
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This is where you have to take a step back if you're Alex and you're still pretending
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to be a Christian.
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A lot of the stuff in the Bible is pretty negotiable.
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And if you're in one tradition, you may believe something slightly different than someone
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who's in another group.
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It'll happen.
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Baptism is a good example of where there's like a lot of disagreement.
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But the thing that you really can't get away from is that God had a son named Jesus who
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died for humanity's sins, and that sacrifice created a new covenant between God and man.
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If you don't believe that, you're not a Christian.
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It's in the title.
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If Alex believes that there are a bunch of other quote, more real dimensions that we
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get to play around in if we try real hard, that's great, and I'm happy for him, but that's
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not Christianity.
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And let me take this one step further.
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If he believes that the books of the Bible are some esoteric riddle that only he's smart
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enough to understand, then not only is he not a Christian, he's directly refuting the
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core pillars of the faith.
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Yeah.
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We've listened to the show enough that we've heard him pray countless times on air and
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he's faked crying about his personal relationship with Jesus.
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So I don't think he just thinks that the Bible is supposed to be coded language that explains
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like these other dimensions and stuff.
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When he's doing this kind of thing, he isn't crying because the riddles are so good.
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He's using the conventional understanding of the Christian faith to manipulate his audience.
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And then doing this kind of shit, which is blasphemous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, there's a great Leslie Nielsen movie called Surf Ninjas.
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Here's what's great about a movie called Surf Ninjas.
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You call that a Leslie Nielsen movie?
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Of course I do.
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He's in it.
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Sure.
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I don't remember the names of anybody else's in it, so...
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He's definitely not one of the Surf Ninjas.
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No, he's not.
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But if you name a movie Surf Ninjas, you need at the very least two things.
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Surfing and ninjas, right?
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If you name your religion Christianity, you are fairly required to have the Christ be
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like front and center.
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And it has to be a real, like whether you understand it as like some kind of a metaphorical
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truth or you believe it as, you know, literal resurrection, you must believe in this thing.
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Yeah.
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It is what we are united around.
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Otherwise we are not united at all.
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The word is meaningless.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is basically kind of, you know, he likes to talk about people peeing on things.
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He's kind of pissing on a cross.
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Yeah, that is the problem.
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You know, you say, hey, we're going to protect Christianity if people start saying bad stuff
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about it and they're like, oh, I'm a Christian, but this is what we do.
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We go, no, you can't do that.
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But then the problem with Christians saying, no, you can't do that is they tend to go a
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little far.
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They tend to go a little far in history in the whole, you can't do this thing.
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Yeah.
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It's a tough, it's a tough balance to strike.
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You know, it's like, no, we don't want Alex, but at the same time you shouldn't put people
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on the rack.
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There's a, it's a, it's a trade off.
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Right.
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You know?
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Yep.
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Alex talks a little bit here about, uh, Elon Musk and how he's, uh, cured blindness.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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And this has to do with like the idea of the DMT lifts the veil and stuff.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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He's going to be able to do that for you.
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Like with a little implant.
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I don't know if that's true.
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Elon Musk has talked about with his company, but this has been around for a long time.
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I remember seeing doctors on PBS when I was a kid about it, where they could put wires
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into people's brains and start giving them limited sight.
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But now with computer programs that can train the brain, they can do it very, very quickly.
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Even if you've never had sight before they can wire somebody up, give them a side.
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If they had it before, because you already have the patterns in your brain to have sight,
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but if you never had sight, it's very hard, but now they have computer programs where
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it goes in and it starts with a very easy doc goes in training on it.
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That adds more pixels.
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And within six months, a year, people can see that's available to everybody.
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They just haven't decided to deploy it to you.
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And as Elon has said in talks, they can hook somebody up to those and show you infrared.
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They can hook it up where you can actually see radioactive emanations.
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They can, you can turn your brain up and then you can see everything.
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Everything.
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Ooh.
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So the first problem here is that blindness is caused by a ton of different conditions
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and circumstances.
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So there isn't really like a quick fix like Alex is imagining.
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This is just Musk's shit talking and Alex repeating it like a good media surrogate because
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that's what he is.
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That's what he does.
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New and evolving therapies involve a certain amount of training the brain to process signals
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that come in from the eye.
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But a lot of vision loss has more to do with the cells in your eyes that recognize light.
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Researchers have made a lot of progress with growing these cells in a lab setting and that's
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exciting stuff, but it's not the music man ass stuff that Elon's doing.
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He has a company called Blindsight, which has gone through no clinical trials yet, but
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he's done a fair amount of PR for it.
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That's great.
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It's cool and it's not shady.
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That doesn't sound shady at all.
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Elon's plan is basically to ignore the eye part of the equation and implant electrodes
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that stimulate the cells in your visual cortex in order to show your brain pictures.
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So it would probably rely on some kind of wearable or implantable camera where a person's
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eyes are.
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Yeah.
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People who work in vision based medicine and research all pretty much believe that it could
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be possible that this could give someone the ability to see like blurry general shapes,
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but there's no way that we know enough about how to stimulate enough cells in the right
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way to give someone clear vision.
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Yeah, that would be crazy.
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It's just so far beyond what's possible.
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The complexity required to understand it would be beyond anything we...
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It would require alien technology.
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It is a more feasible gamble of a thing to think about the cells to implant in the eye.
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It's fair enough though that Elon could just broadcast whatever he wanted on those things
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into your head.
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Ooh.
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Presumably it would only be whatever you wanted to see like infrared or heat vision.
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Presumably.
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Feels like that might eventually become the premium package.
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There is going to be a lot of commercials.
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You might have to pay for ad-free eyeballs.
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Man, you should see.
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Also like whatever he could project into your brain, you could just see now.
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You are one decision away from being able to wear heat vision goggles all the time.
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Yeah, there is that.
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And if you make that decision, you will quickly learn why people don't walk around with heat
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vision goggles.
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There's not magic stuff you end up finding.
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There's nothing you can really do.
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There's nothing...
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I mean, things look bad.
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It's easier to see in the dark.
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So there's that.
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Well, those are another goggle you could get.
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Yeah, there's definitely that.
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Well, there you go.
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I guess we don't need fake eyes.
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Also, shouldn't this be transhumanism?
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He should be really against this.
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Listen, I don't like wearing glasses and I don't like wearing contacts.
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But I'm not going to be the first to get new eyes.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I'm going to let enough early adopter types...
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I didn't get the iPhone 1.
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I got the iPhone 3.
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I'm out here waiting until I get the iEyes 3.
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Do you know what though?
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I would never...
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I think...
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Oh man, no.
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I don't think I ever would.
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You don't think so?
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No.
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I would get those cells, that kind of a surgery.
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But I would never get robot eyeballs from Musk.
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Well I wouldn't get them from Musk, obviously.
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You can't trust those eyeballs.
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Yeah, but I don't know what other kind of competition there's going to be in that field.
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Listen, I am assuming there will be an altruistic company giving out free government funded
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eyes.
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I think the other folks are going to have a better shot at this.
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And one of the things that I saw brought up in one of the articles that I thought was
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a good point was that a lot of the people who are suffering from vision loss, they're
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later in life and they don't really know how to live blind.
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And so a lot of them are depressed and despondent.
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And someone like Musk coming along and being like, I can magically fix your eyes.
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I'll give you money.
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This has never happened in America before.
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It's preying on people who are in a really vulnerable position.
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And I think that they have to know.
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They have to know that this hype is predatory.
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You can cold call and try and get social security numbers or you can do what Elon Musk is doing.
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Apparently one of them is legal.
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And encouraged.
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Yeah.
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So the eyes.
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They're really just brain tissue if you think about it.
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Your eyes are really your brain.
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I strongly disagree with that, but okay.
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Your eyeballs when you are in utero as a tiny fetus grow out of your brain.
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They say the eyes are the one of the soul.
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Your eyes are brain tissue.
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Your eyes are stalks that grow out of the brain.
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Cool.
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And so you're unconscious and subconscious sees everything.
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But the DMT, the ayahuasca, goes in and lifts the veil.
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But God doesn't get involved in free will.
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So when you take DMT, all that is going to appear to you is bad entities because they're
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violating a rule of God to try to manipulate us in the third dimension.
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Because we're babies.
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We're children.
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We're supposed to be allowed to chase the butterflies and run to the park metaphorically,
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metaphysically in this short lifetime, this test.
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But they're there to sabotage and manipulate and get us off track.
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Did you not have the free will to take the DMT in the first place?
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Like the demons you see in those trips can't force you to do anything.
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So I have no idea how they're violating God's free will rules.
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I guess they can't appear to you unless you ask them to.
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But you took the drug that makes it so you can't see them.
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This is on you.
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You did this.
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You took the drug.
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You can say the name three times in a mirror or you can take DMT.
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It's the same thing.
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Yeah.
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They didn't ask you to do that.
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And as best as I can tell, they were just minding their own business before you got
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high.
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Like you showed up.
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Jesus Christ, I'm bloody Mary over here.
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What are you doing?
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If the free will rule is that you can't appear without being called upon, then God has broken
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that rule a bunch.
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He just showed up in the Garden of Eden and asked Adam and Eve like, hey, why are you
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naked?
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Hey, check this out.
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Yeah, he didn't ask them to show up.
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Hey, bro.
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God basically harassed Moses until he agreed to do what he asked.
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I'm not sure any of the various prophets specifically asked for the vision they had and Saul certainly
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didn't call on God.
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Hey, but, but I'm a bush.
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I'm burning.
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Wow.
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Saul was just out there like persecuting Christians.
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And then on the road to Damascus, God appeared and was like, dude, what's your deal?
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Yeah.
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Like he didn't ask.
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There's no free will in that.
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Bro, turn around, get your shit together.
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All right, I'm out.
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This free will business doesn't really make sense.
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And it's just a dumb way for Alex to impose his libertarian ideas on God.
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God is super into small government, private property and the nonaggression principle.
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So weird how he's exactly like what I want him to be as opposed to me being conforming
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to him.
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It's so crazy how this, religion's great really.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It's magic.
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It is magic.
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So earlier Alex was talking about this representative, Burchette.
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Yes.
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And how he's talking some shit about aliens.
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Sure.
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And so we get back to that here.
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But here is Congressman Burchette on Newsmax yesterday being asked about what former Congressman
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Gates is saying about animal or alien human hybrids and animal hybrids.
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You know, they've made those labs, that's human animal hybrids, which is alien.
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It's new.
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They also made new synthetic life.
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That's alien.
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So think of the definitions here a little bit differently.
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Think of them like the movie in the 90s, Species.
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They got a radio telescope aimed at a distant star planetary system and they get a message
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in human DNA of what to implant in a female egg.
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And they do it.
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Boom.
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Uh oh.
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You just set up a new life form here that's going to attack you.
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Boom.
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Uh oh.
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Trojan horses, beware gifts from the gods, as they're called.
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Yeah.
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Gods, but the ancients thought they were gods.
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Right.
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And so do you.
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But there is a god above it all and God tells us, I've marooned this entity and his operatives
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here and by the way, you're going to have to transcend it.
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What a dick.
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What an asshole.
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That's not my job, man.
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The dimensions.
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The dimensions.
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The multivariate systems.
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So, the third dimension is the bottom of physical matter.
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It's the lowest level that has physical containment, gravity.
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This is the playpen.
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This is the baby nursery.
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This is first level.
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So very sadly, he does not describe what any of the other dimensions are.
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Yeah, I imagine it's tough to know.
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Yeah.
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I imagine it's tough to know.
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I mean, he's getting so specific about the third that I was like, alright, here we go.
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He really seems to know a lot about this third.
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But also, I don't think he knows anything about the third dimension at all.
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But let's assume that the third dimension is a playpen.
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Sure.
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Now what?
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Who cares?
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Well...
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How do you get out of the playpen?
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If you really do get smart and figure it all out, do you just pop out of existence in the
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physical world or do you have to wait until you die?
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While we're talking about it, who's outside the playpen?
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Is it other people who figured out and popped out of physical reality or is it where you
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go after you die if you resist the DMT demon's influence?
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So this is a playpen, but also a research facility and a spiritual test.
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All of those things would seem to cast us in different roles where people in a playpen
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are having carefree fun, people in a research facility are probably being experimented on,
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and people in a spiritual test are being judged for their actions.
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So you can't really play because if you play you're probably failing the test.
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You know, I was...
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It's all mutually exclusive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cause it's like, cause it's...
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Like here's the thing, right?
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I get what he's saying, but it comes down to the question, does God fart?
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You think, ah, God doesn't fart, you wouldn't do that.
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But then you gotta go like, farting is funny, right?
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Does God think it's evil?
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Am I evil?
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But my body...
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It's a byproduct of eating.
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Exactly.
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So does God eat?
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I don't have to, but he has to.
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And then you just get bored, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I think that there's another question that this kind of thinking raises and that
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is like, hey, if this is the playpen, why are you here, Alex?
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You seem to be above all this shit and you know everything and like, God talks to you.
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So you're kind of Jesus, right?
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It feels like he's more the marooned guy.
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Not in his head.
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So all of that was supposed to be a setup for talking about playing this clip of Burchette.
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And I will tell you that he is, he's just like, oh, if you saw what I saw, you would
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never sleep.
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Okay, great.
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Cool.
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I'm not suicidal.
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No one's gonna kill me.
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How is it not your responsibility?
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If aliens are so fucking terrifying and powerful and cool, how is it that you're not your responsibility?
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You're just a fucking Congress person.
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You're not that big of a deal.
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Who fucking cares?
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Throw out all your alien knowledge.
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What are they going to do?
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Get in trouble?
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There are aliens to protect you.
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The funny thing too is that he's doing an interview on some show and he starts by saying
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like, I'm still in Congress, so I can't tell you what I saw.
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Now let me tell you, you'd never sleep at night.
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Fuck off.
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Fuck off.
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Oh my God.
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If you actually aren't going to say anything, shut the fuck up.
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Don't tell me how you're not going to kill yourself.
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Even if you're, yeah, that's crazy.
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To even say the second part, if you saw what I saw, you would never sleep is to admit either
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you're hiding it from us because you're a coward or it's not real and you're a liar.
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Yeah.
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And you're just trying to get attention.
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And that's probably close to what it, the probably more the latter, but also I would
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assume he's a coward too, but he's, he's implying that there's aliens up in space with crafts
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and all that.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And Alex wants you to know that's bullshit.
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Oh, okay.
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So here's the Congressman saying just when he got briefed on the show two weeks ago would
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curl your hair.
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Now I know most of what Congress has been given from all my research and sources have
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proven to be accurate, like our journalist, Daniel lists, dark, she is bull crap.
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The idea that there's all these aliens from trillions of miles away, just flying around
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and tin cans doing all this.
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No, that's not how it happens.
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You always think of an alien invasion like that.
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It's a cheesy movie came out over a decade ago, but remember Pacific rim entertaining
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though.
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Just say you liked the movie.
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What the fuck is wrong with you in spaceships from Mars?
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They interdimensionally come through a vortex in the core of the earth and they're here
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to Terraform and take over our planet.
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I'm not saying that's real.
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I'm saying think like that.
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Okay.
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That's how this works.
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So we should think like Pacific rim.
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Yeah.
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I w I would like to just say to Alex, like, I think that you may be put too much stock
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into movies and then feel ashamed about how stupid you sound.
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Talking about how they're real.
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Yeah.
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The big stuff's coming.
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I can feel we're on the cusp of something.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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I appreciate that.
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I appreciate that you feel the breakthrough.
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Well done, Dan.
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Well done.
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So well done.
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So Alex, you know, the B the BS is the UFOs and the ships and that stuff.
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Right.
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It's coming from inside the house.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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The UFOs.
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That's our stuff.
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Right.
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And that's the only people who need to fly.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And the demons told us how to make it.
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That's a good point from the beginning.
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All this gray alien, Tinker toy, flying saucers, flying around, shooting down airplanes and
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stuff.
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That's advanced human technology given to them interdimensionally by the bad guys built.
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That's why suddenly it's more and more advanced.
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Suddenly it's these little Tinker toys are falling on the sky.
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Big problems.
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We still have amazing problems.
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Big problems.
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Oh, the aliens have all these really advanced ships.
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No, there are ships.
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Almost all of them.
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Almost the real aliens aren't flying around in ships, boys and girls.
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They've mastered time and space and I mean, mastered it.
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And those are the angels and there's the bad ones.
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But the good ones will not intervene unless you seek it out and have free will and have
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the right reason for it.
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The bad ones snap your fingers, they'll show up.
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So don't try it.
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I love how Alex had to make that caveat there where the angels show up if you use your free
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will and you have a good reason to ask them something.
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Right.
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Now, if his listeners pray for an angel to come help them out and nothing happens, they
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can blame themselves for not having a good enough reason.
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It's a classic dodge and one of the best.
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It's brilliant.
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So yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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If he doesn't solve your problem, it's because you're not pious enough.
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Definitely not because I am lying to you.
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Please give me $50.
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Now all of these UFOs are ships that demons gave us the specs for in the spectral ethereal
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realm where...
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I know you think you understand this thing, but actually you don't.
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It's a lot like what you understand, but it's more and better because I think it.
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Yeah.
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It's weird how that works.
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So Chet, Alex doesn't want to throw him out.
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Sure.
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He doesn't want to be like, this guy's evil.
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He seems like he's probably a good man.
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All right.
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But maybe he's just got bad info.
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It's possible.
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I think he's a good man, but at the same time, is he being given this information?
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But remember, old Trump is going to go in and look at Fort Knox.
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He can do it.
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We're going to release all the Epstein files.
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Todd Blanchard went on TV and said they released them all.
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They didn't.
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It's a lie.
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So it's all about keeping knowledge from the public saying we can't handle it when in truth
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we have corrupt elites fighting over the technologies and information to control us.
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But at the higher levels, the shadowy groups above the intelligence agencies and governments,
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the big corporations that really run it all, that you see evidenced by the Epstein files,
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they know how to get in contact.
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And it's just like in the golden child with Eddie Murphy, when I've heard basically described
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by these people is they don't need DMT drugs, any of it.
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They just get out their prayer mat, they sit down and then the walls disappear and they're
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getting their directives right there.
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Do they need the prayer mat?
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That seems unnecessary.
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That seems more like that pod that Vader was in.
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So Alex has heard that devil worshipers can commune with demons, just like that Eddie
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Murphy movie, the golden child.
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It's really specific how many movies are important.
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Maybe too many.
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Maybe too many movies are important.
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It's excessive on this episode.
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It is quite a few number of movies, almost as if he's doing a complete abdication of
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any kind of knowledge of what's going on at all.
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I get that Alex is trying to say that maybe Representative Burchette means well, but is
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being fed disinformation about aliens.
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But the two examples that Alex uses of disinformation that Trump used in the past are things that
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he absolutely bought into.
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Alex said that Trump was going to release the Epstein files and that he was going to
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audit Ford Knox.
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He can put on a little voice and mock the idea of someone buying those ideas, but it
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doesn't change that he was the one selling them.
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Alex must have either believed Trump when he said he was going to release the files
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and audit the gold, in which case Alex got tricked by an idiot and has the worst instincts
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on earth.
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Or he knew that was disinformation and decided to sell it to his audience anyway.
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Regardless of what the truth is, no one has any reason they should take him seriously.
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Ever.
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Yeah.
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If you...
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I'm not saying that you can't be mad at them, because we're all mad at them.
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But if you are like, I think Trump is a good guy, you no longer get to tell me who you
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think the corrupt elites are.
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You are no longer trustworthy.
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Now let me...
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You should just listen to me when I say somebody's a corrupt elite.
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Let me take you a little bit further.
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If you told me that Trump was daddy and he was home and he was going to spank me, shut
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up.
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You should probably no longer speak anymore.
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You have no ground to stand on.
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Yeah, how is Tucker feeling about his spankings?
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Not good?
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Daddy is mean.
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Daddy's mean?
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Tucker doesn't like to...
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You know, it's almost as though developing a society based upon a paternalistic point
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of view is actually a fucking dumb and idiotic thing to do.
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Daddy's home and he's pissed.
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Oh no, he bombed Iran.
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Maybe you're an idiot.
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Maybe you're just an idiot.
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So look man, enough of the bullshit.
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We're talking about aliens.
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Let's get to the real world.
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All right.
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This has got to get into the war news.
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All right.
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So let me go over the war news here.
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War news.
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We are seeing more, let's just say this, incorrect information from President Trump.
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That's a Black Hawk.
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No, that's a...
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Yeah, that's a Black Hawk.
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Or is that a pet?
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Black Hawk.
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So there's a lot of this going on.
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That's a Black Hawk.
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That's a Black Hawk.
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He's trying to identify a helicopter in a video that someone's playing.
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Why not?
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So this is an editorial choice Alex is making where he's resisting saying that Trump is
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lying.
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We are seeing more incorrect information from Trump.
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The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alex has already said that Trump is lying
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about this stuff.
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So I don't get what the upside of playing cute like this is.
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Because he's already accused Trump of lying, it just comes off like him trying to hedge
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his bets and cover for a liar.
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This looks worse than just committing to the fuck this guy he's lying about war.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But also, you know what?
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I'll throw this out there.
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There's a long tradition of that.
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There's a long tradition.
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You never heard like, no, it's from the wah.
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Everything's going poorly.
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Now watch this movie.
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No, that's not how it worked.
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No, they gave you like, everybody's doing great.
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Give us some more money.
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Yeah, right.
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And then you watch the movie.
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Right.
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And I think that Alex has a long career and a long history of no one really like forcing
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continuity on him.
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Yeah, there is that.
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Like he doesn't have to deal with anything he said the day before.
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War's still going despite what I said the day before.
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Whoops.
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No, it's not.
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Tune in tomorrow.
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Where there'll be an emergency.
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Oh, man.
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So it turns out the war news is mostly about leftist shitting on Alex.
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How about that?
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What a weird war.
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So I'm not even here.
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I don't want Trump to fail.
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I didn't want Trump to go sideways.
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I've seen the leftist talking point.
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I don't have time to watch a lot of it.
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But I mean, all over the TV, all over the internet, all the top internet talk show host.
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Top internet talk show liberals.
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Millions of viewers are Alex Jones admits he's wrong.
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Alex Jones admits Trump was always bad and he needs to come out and admit it's his fault.
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No, we got a lot of good things done with Trump and shut down a lot of your evil agendas
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and did stop a lot of wars.
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And now we're horrified that Trump's going sideways like you.
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You guys are openly evil.
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So Alex is getting his stories mixed up because there aren't supposed to be leftists with
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millions of viewers online.
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Americana populism is supposed to be the only thing that can actually draw a crowd.
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But I guess Alex wouldn't feel very big or important if he said a bunch of losers with
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no audience were criticizing him online.
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So we're the show that gives Alex unsolicited advice.
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So I'd like to explain the only way he could have played the current situation and come
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out ahead.
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I feel comfortable revealing this now because it's too late.
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I don't think he could pull it off anyway.
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For all of his career, Alex has been a guy who's been aggressively opposed to the federal
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government.
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And the biggest hurdle that he's been up against is that the government kind of worked pretty
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well.
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It got a lot of shit wrong, it served the interests of the rich over the general public,
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and it waged a lot of war.
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But in terms of functioning, it was pretty reliable.
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There's a complacency that comes with that reliability, and most people would be unwilling
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to rock the boat in a way that fundamentally changed the structure of government, taking
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power away from the federal government and giving more to the states, because there was
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more to risk, that stability.
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There was a very small window where Alex could have come out and said that the last ten years
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of his life were an act of desperation, trying to bring in the living embodiment of why federal
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power can't be allowed to be unchecked.
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He could cop to lying constantly to promote Trump and explain that it was the only choice
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he had left to wake up the sheeple.
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The Iraq war didn't cause a revolution, the banker bailouts didn't cause a revolution,
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so the only thing that possibly could is actually bringing in a tyrant.
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He could show remorse and he could effectively write off any criticism of him from 2015 onward.
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Any time anybody said that he should be held responsible for some lie that he told to promote
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Trump, he could say they were taking him out of context and it was part of a bigger picture.
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It would be bullshit, but it would work on some people, and it could give him enough
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breathing room to rebrand.
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And it would be a perfect thing for him to go away.
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He could drop a video explaining that, leave for a couple months, and come back with a
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mask or something.
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I don't know.
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New character.
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Dark Alex.
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Yeah.
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I would never support the dissolution of the federal government, because all that would
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do is abandon people in various states to have their rights and labor protections taken
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away.
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I definitely don't view the position of the federal government the same way that I did
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in 2017.
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I think it's more easily and dangerously corruptible than I had previously imagined, and Alex's
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guy has shown that.
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I think that if he owned that and pretended that he did it on purpose, he'd probably be
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able to trick a fair amount of people who are entertaining newer ideas about small government,
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libertarianism and anarchy into thinking like, oh, this guy, wow.
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What a, whoa.
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Yeah.
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He got us all fooled.
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He seemed so on board.
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Yeah, they didn't have the poly market stuff.
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They didn't have the betting stuff in 2017.
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Otherwise, I would have fucking cleaned a house right now.
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Well, they did overseas, right?
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Because Barnes was- Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah.
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Barnes was doing a lot of gambling.
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Yeah, man.
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Ugh.
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I would have cleaned house.
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Bummer.
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You should have talked to Robbie.
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Robbie Barnes.
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There's no point in, yeah, what you going to do?
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But I was thinking about that, and I do think that that's, Alex, that would have worked.
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It would have worked enough.
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It wouldn't have worked on the people it wasn't going to work on anyways.
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But neither is this.
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Exactly.
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This isn't going to work on anybody.
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Yeah, and I think that the path that I described has the highest likelihood of possibly finding
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new customers.
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Yeah.
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I think that you would blow people's minds.
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That's the only way in to the info war.
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And people would, yeah.
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He can identify how stupid everybody is already.
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He can see that they're writing like, oh, Alex finally turns on Trump.
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Like, who fucking cares, right?
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Get them to write some other shit.
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Get them to write like, Alex was fucking with us the whole time.
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They'd love that shit.
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They'd eat that shit up.
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Yeah.
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He could try and, he could say something around the way of, I have 100,000 DHS.
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Yeah.
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Or whatever.
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Something like that.
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I was playing this all along in order to illustrate to you that this is so close.
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There's even clips that he could play of him knowing about Trump and all that shit.
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That he could be like, hey, listen, I warned you about this then, and then I decided, I
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made a conscious decision to fuck all of you.
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Because fuck all of you.
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I did it as an act of going under deep cover in order to save all of you.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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The whole thing.
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He would be able to have some kind of an act of false contrition.
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It's as believable as anything he did the 10 years before that, so why the fuck not?
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Yeah.
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Right?
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I think it would have sold.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, everyone's saying that he's ditching Trump because the numbers are down.
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Ooh.
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The left is saying that Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and we're all abandoning
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Trump because his approval rating's down and we just want to support somebody popular.
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A lot of the support of Obama if that was the case.
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No, we want someone that saves the country and the world.
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We want someone that reverses the leftist globalist satanic policies.
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Alex said that Obama had record low approval ratings.
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Yeah.
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Listen, it doesn't matter.
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But this actually gets to a key point.
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I think that some people would be inclined to say that Alex is ditching Trump because
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Trump's numbers are down.
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But that's an oversimplification.
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Alex is ditching Trump for two reasons.
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The first is that he's been repeatedly and fundamentally humiliated by Trump in ways
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that the audience won't ignore anymore.
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Alex can say Trump is going to release the Epstein files and then when Trump doesn't,
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Alex's audience wonders if they're on the same page.
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Alex can say that Trump isn't going to attack Iran, but when Trump then attacks Iran, Alex's
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audience knows damn well that they're not on the same page.
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The illusion that Alex has any sway over the administration and by proxy, Alex's audience
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has any sway over the administration is gone.
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He's not a useful figurehead for the Infowar anymore because he obviously doesn't give
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a shit about you or any of the things that you pretend to stand for.
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The second is that Alex probably knows that Trump is about to do some flagrantly bad shit
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and he needs to prepare to distance himself from it.
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He's posting threats on social media to kill the entire civilization of Iran in one night,
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so it's hard to act like he's not threatening nuclear war, even for Alex.
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Beyond that, he has to know that if he leaves office, he'll likely die in prison, so we
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have no idea what could happen if he's impeached or if we get to the 2028 election and he decides
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that he's not going anywhere.
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Like Alex is in a position where he has to not be on board by that point.
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Here's, I'll tell you this.
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Polymarket is not allowing you to write down end of American democracy in 2028.
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Interesting.
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I'm really pissed off about that one because I would clean house.
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Right.
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And I think that Alex knows, based on what's happening, that he needs to be in the White
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House or away from it when the point of no return comes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it's growing ever closer and he's not getting in the door.
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Yep, yep.
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A lot of the shit that Trump did up until now has been kind of fun for Alex because
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there was a plausible counterweight in the form of the Democrats and the ghost of the
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Constitution.
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Now it's not fun because there doesn't appear to be any power within the United States that
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can check Trump.
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So the only thing that could do that seems to be a power outside of the United States
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and that means war.
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Yep.
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And Alex doesn't want to be on the side of America in a war.
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Right.
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He doesn't want to be on the side against America.
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Ah.
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Right, yeah.
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None of Trump's actions have been deal breakers for Alex though.
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This is important to understand.
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He was fine going along with covering up Epstein, overthrowing Maduro, and he would have
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been fine with bombing Iran if it had not gone poorly.
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His change in tone is caused by feedback and negative reaction to the stuff Trump is doing,
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but the approval rating is the wrong metric to act like he cares about.
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It's the pill sales.
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Yeah.
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He can't maintain the audience and keep up with Trump.
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That's it.
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Yep, money.
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It's money.
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I mean, I was thinking about this in the context of the protests, which are delightful, but
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if you're not fucking with their money, they don't care.
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Like that's just the, no matter how loud and like, where are all their, if you're not fucking
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with their money, they don't care.
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I think in a lot of cases that's probably true.
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That's like, that's the message.
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And to be clear with Alex, it's money and analogs of money.
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So like Twitter attention and that kind of stuff that sort of vaguely translates to money
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is kind of in the same.
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Powers money, you know, all of those things, all of that influence is what money is in a way.
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And Trump's fucking with that now.
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Trump is really fucking with that.
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He's positioned Alex in a place where he can't really move forward with him.
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I mean, but I just, I can't, I can't do it anymore.
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How do these people still do it?
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How is it that you've still got that, that template around that?
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Like I would just hang on to it.
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If I was a journalist, I would hang on to the Alex turns on Trump template and just
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have a mad libs for whatever's going on that day.
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Right?
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Like how do you not go, Alex is lying again.
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He'll change his mind in a few years.
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Don't trust this motherfucker.
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Right.
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Right.
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The headline should be, yeah, like it doesn't matter or there should be a headline.
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Yeah, exactly.
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There just shouldn't be.
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This is nothing meaningless.
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These people are, everything they're saying is meaningless.
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What's happening today is meaningless.
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It's so appealing to have the like delight in what appears to be like a meaningful downfall,
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of course, but it's not meaningful.
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It is not meaningful.
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And what you are getting is empty, awful calories.
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Yeah.
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And uh, you know, you were saying it's all about money and kind of, yeah.
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Tucker has done what he's done out of a feeling of responsibility, not for clicks, not for
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access.
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Tucker isn't speaking out against the president because that's popular.
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Leftists don't buy anything.
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They don't buy your nicotine pouches.
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They don't buy your supplements.
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The left's not my audience.
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I'm not catering to them.
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I cater to the truth.
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I don't cater to quote right wing or anything.
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I just go, what's the most accurate thing?
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How do I get it right?
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And I say it.
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That accidental reveal almost makes you feel bad.
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It's easy to claim that you don't cater to a specific audience in order to sell stuff,
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but that image is hard to maintain when you demonstrate that you're clearly aware that
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you're only able to sell stuff to the side that you weirdly always take.
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Alex and Tucker know that they aren't going to pick up any left leaning customers, which
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is why they have to chase the right wing audience who are increasingly done with Trump and they
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need to follow wherever these people go and pretend that they're leading them.
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Yeah.
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It is wild to really dig into how many of these people think that they're the ones who
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are like the thought leaders and all that shit.
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And reality is they just chase after what a bunch of people are thinking.
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And maybe there are contributions they make in terms of thought leadership, but regurgitating
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stuff from the smaller people into the larger mainstream, really.
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Well, with a bullhorn.
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Exactly.
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So Alex talks a little bit about the radio.
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Sure.
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And how these big radio networks, they're owned by Israel.
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They're the ones that are influencers.
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They're the ones that get paid to say what they say.
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And by the way, it's on the right wing too.
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You know, coming up, there was huge criticism by the Salem media company.
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It's powerful talk radio block and multimedia.
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They got some good hosts on there.
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I'm not going to say they're all bad because they're on there, but they've been calling
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Kitar Elson and saying he's a foreign agent.
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He should be put in prison.
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A bunch of them.
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And it turns out that Salem, I didn't do this 20 years ago, but specifically and the director
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of it, all of them are on huge contracts to the Israeli government.
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Sure.
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And Israel said six months ago, we're going to increase our funding in the US and the
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eight front war to pay for propaganda.
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So there they are calling Tucker, a foreign agent, and they call me that and all this
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other ridiculous crap.
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And you're literally Salem and I've got all the documents here.
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So I don't know what it even means to like be on the Israeli payroll anymore, but it's
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no secret that Salem media has a relationship with the state of Israel.
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They've organized annual stand with Israel tours since 2015 the 2015 tour.
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It was a 10 day trip.
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It was headlined by radio host Mike Gallagher and Joe Piscopo.
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None of this is at all shocking or even really that scandalous.
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It was reported on about six months ago that Salem had filed with FARA because they had
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accepted $6 million from the Israeli government.
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But it's important to understand what happened here and the fact that we know this because
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they filed with the foreign agents registration act.
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There is that.
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So Salem's chief strategy officer was Brad Parscale, who was Trump's head of digital
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operations during the 2016 election and then campaign manager in 2020 Parscale was the
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person who got the $6 million from the Israeli government who registered with FARA because
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he's on the executive.
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He's an executive at the media organization who's being paid by a foreign government to
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advocate for their interests.
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It's not controversial or news to say that Salem media has a relationship with Israel,
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but the particular news Alex is talking about is a story about one of Trump's very close
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associates from back in the time when Trump was supposed to have been cool.
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Who is the one who took the money?
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Alex doesn't like Salem because they didn't syndicate his show back in the day, but also
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because he thinks that Mark Levin works for them.
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He doesn't realize that Levin's on Westwood One, which is owned by Cumulus, who also didn't
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syndicate Alex's show.
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I understand why he'd be better.
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Yeah.
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I mean, listen, I feel like we're in a too old to begin the training kind of situation,
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right?
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Like if you're trying to tell me about corporations controlling syndicated media as a problem
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now, fucking too late, buddy.
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Too late.
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We're way past when you should have noticed that.
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Yeah.
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I tried to protest back in the days of Jack FM.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Come on, buddy.
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That ship sailed.
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Yep.
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I mourned the death of radio.
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Alex killed it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So Alex, you know, there's a lot of people who are saying that like, you're only turning
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on Trump because you care about money.
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Sure.
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And that's true.
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Yes.
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But then Alex interprets care about money in a way that makes it not true.
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Okay.
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And it is horrifying that that is happening and this is openly going on.
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And when I say this, people say, oh, you just care about money.
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What does that mean?
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What does that mean?
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The globalists know we're on the edge of bankruptcy as a country.
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They want us to go into the great reset, like a third world country under their control.
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Trump has a great recovery plan that has a great shot of turning around, but not if you
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close the trade over moose as we warned over a year ago.
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And now it's done it.
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And it's creating a shockwave that most economists think will already mess up Trump's recovery
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currently.
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But it keeps going for sure.
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It's about economic bondage.
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Economic freedom is about economic mobility.
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You know the old song, I owe my soul to company store.
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Whether you were a sharecropper in Alabama or East Texas, or whether you were in West
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Virginia a coal miner, you had to live basically on a company rented shack.
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You had to buy your food from the company store as part of your contract so they could
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gouge you and everything else.
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And that's how they controlled you.
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It's slavery by another name.
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Indentured servitude.
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And that's why I hate communism.
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That's why, yeah, I'm worried about the money, about our country going bankrupt.
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And that's why with horror I didn't want to criticize Trump too much.
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I mean I'd say the bad stuff he was doing to get him to correct because I was looking
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at all the good stuff and saying, you know, we've got to keep that going.
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It's night and day of the Democrats.
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This is classic weenie stuff.
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Yeah, this is very weenie.
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So Alex's intention of conflating two types of caring about money.
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One is wanting everyone to have more economic freedom, which is a nice concern to have.
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Alex has the other kind though, which is that he knows that no one on the left buys his
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shit so if he doesn't get his act together and find some new way to entertain the avant-garde
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Nazis on social media, he's gonna go broke.
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Company stores are a bad idea and mostly only thrived in the period before people had wider
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access to cars so they couldn't really get anywhere else to shop anyway.
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But there's no reason that Alex should be against them.
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If he loves the free market, then who's the government to say that a company can't offer
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their employees credit at their stores that can come out of their paychecks?
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This is a free arrangement between individuals.
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I know it sounds kinda crazy to say that companies should be allowed to pay their employees in
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special fake money that's only good at their stores, but Alex is a firm believer in a person's
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right to enter whatever contract they want.
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That's why there shouldn't be a minimum wage, because it makes it illegal for someone to
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offer their labor to someone for cheaper than the minimum.
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It kills competition.
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If an employee agrees to do a job that pays in monopoly money, they must be doing that
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because it's in their self-interest to do it, just like the person who would accept
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a job for 75 cents an hour.
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Sounds true.
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Company stores are a great example of how the free market doesn't actually exist, because
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exploitation is always a factor, and they illustrate how unless people can collectively
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bargain, labor always has a disadvantageous position compared to the owners.
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And also, Alex is in favor of Elon Musk owning Mars bases.
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Do you think there's gonna be a lot of diversity and competition in commerce in moon bases
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and Mars bases?
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Yeah, yeah.
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This is the thing that's gonna happen, and it's going to be the worst and most annoying
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thing that happens in the next year.
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And then after that, people will go back to doing what they do.
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Like, I'm turning on Trump, but I am not at all changing anything that I believe ideologically
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whatsoever.
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I was totally right the whole time.
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I was totally right.
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Now it's bad, but that's not my fault.
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I was still right.
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I was always right.
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Now I admit, right now things aren't good, so I'm with you.
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But then the moment I get the chance to not be with you, I'm gone.
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This is bullshit.
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It's the most annoying bullshit ever.
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I mean, it's just a different flavor of that Glenn Beck apology to her that people fell
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for.
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Yep.
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And I don't think anyone's gonna fall for Alex's version of it.
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No.
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I think everyone's kind of bored.
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There's gonna be a lot of versions that get...
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But some people could be more successful than others.
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There are gonna be a lot of people who are successful.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So Trump, you know, he said some things.
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Sure.
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And maybe one of them was really bad.
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Oh.
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I gotta get really mad at Trump.
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I gotta get on his ass and I gotta get my huge audience of activists who I don't agree
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with me.
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The audience is wanting me to push harder and I agree.
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Because letting Trump continue down this road is not good.
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And then statements like, well, you know, we can't help fund Medicare and Medicaid anymore.
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We gotta worry about war.
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And then the new budget cuts a bunch of that because it's gotta go to the war.
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Shockingly.
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Well, we should get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.
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It is communism.
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Yeah.
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But you gotta wean people off and it's political.
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What?
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And if we're gonna give trillions of these wars and crap, we can get billions old people.
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I mean, cut the illegal aliens off.
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Fuck off.
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You know, we got a bunch of people who don't know how to take care of themselves when they're
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old and sick and disabled.
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We'll get to them last.
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We'll phase it out.
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We'll probably not.
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You don't you don't cut that off.
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Plus, you lose the midterm saying that.
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This is simultaneously desperate and refreshingly honest.
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The GOP always wants to cut social welfare spending and increase war budgets.
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But everyone knows that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are incredibly popular
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and are keeping much of the country alive.
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So it's very taboo to just come out and admit that you want to slash it.
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The GOP relies on a lot of voters who are on the older side.
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And there's a lot of polling about how they care a lot about these programs not being
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destroyed.
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So it's always been considered kind of political suicide to just say it.
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Yep.
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They all have to lie about their intentions because they know that they would lose a ton
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of support if they told people what they're actually voting for.
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Yep.
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On a very basic level, Alex is acknowledging that the only way the political positions
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he wants are going to win in an election is if they lie about what they want to do.
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And I think that's true.
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I think he's right.
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It is nice of him to remind us because it's very hard for us to understand and remember
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this because they're very good at what they do.
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But everybody voting in an election wants the exact same thing.
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There's a lot more overlap than people think.
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Tons of overlap.
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It is just who's bullshit you are buying at any given point in time.
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And that's kind of the reality.
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That's a big part.
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That's at least a swing.
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You know of it?
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Man.
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You know what?
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I've got to go ahead and say fuck them.
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Fuck you.
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Yeah.
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Get rid of Medicare, Medicaid.
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Get rid of all of it.
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You guys earned it.
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Too bad.
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Too bad.
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This is your daddy talking.
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Well, but also.
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Time to spank you.
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But also, Alex can't be like, we'll phase it out.
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I'm principally opposed to this.
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This is communism.
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Yeah.
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I want to destroy it, but we must do it slowly.
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What are you talking about?
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Weaning people off.
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That's bullshit.
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Yeah, that's cowardly bullshit.
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How dare you.
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Own the position.
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Absolutely.
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I want to get, now I want to get rid of it because you don't want to.
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I want it gone now.
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Yeah, I think that Alex has gotten a little bit less willing to, you know, stake things
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that are very, very unpopular since the Ron Paul days.
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Right?
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Like Ron Paul, God bless him, said a number of things.
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Said some unpopular shit.
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Hell yeah.
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He advocated for a lot of positions that were like, well that's just crazy.
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That'll kill a lot of people.
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Yeah, well you know what?
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Fuck them.
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Yeah, on principle.
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Here we are.
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Now we're here.
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So I would ask you to imagine, bring into your head the picture of Trump as a horse.
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I don't like calling Trump a liar.
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I have fought, I have paid, I have been through hell and we've gotten so much done with him,
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but he's going sideways.
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And it'd be like a horse you had for 10 years, your favorite horse, you're into horses, sweet
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horse, smart horse, fun horse, feed it carrots, feed it apples.
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And then one day you're sitting there brushing it and the horse just turns around and bites
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you right on the nose and bites half your nose off.
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Horses do that.
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And you're just sitting there blood pouring out.
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You don't kill the horse, you just sell it.
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Well Trump's an important horse because he can destroy the world.
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What?
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And so he just basically bit us for no reason.
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So the problem with this metaphor is that the only reason Trump was their favorite horse
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was that he was biting people constantly and they thought it was funny to watch people
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get bit.
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Yeah.
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And so the horse biting people wasn't an issue, but now they got bit and all of a sudden horses
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biting people is something that needs to be taken very seriously.
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Oh no, my nose.
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You have a biting horse.
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You love it.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So let's see, let's take the count on previous Republican presidents who have lied us into
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a war.
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We got that one.
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We got the one before that.
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We got the one before that.
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The one before that.
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Two of them were related.
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And the one before that.
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Yep.
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So five for five, right?
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Two of them are in the same family.
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Five for fighting.
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Yeah, there we go.
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Five for five dollars.
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Footlong.
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Footlog.
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No.
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So Alex has finally had enough.
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Trump is saying that he's going to get rid of Medicare before the midterms.
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Totally destroying the Republicans' chances of winning.
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Oh no.
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So he must have dementia.
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There we go.
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Yay!
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Yay!
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All of a sudden, Trump's straight shooting is a sign of dementia?
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I thought part of the allure he had as a politician is he told it like it is.
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Like when he said he knew that Hillary was corrupt because he paid her off in New York.
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That wasn't dementia.
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That was just a guy cutting through the bullshit.
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But now he's accurately articulating the right-wing position on government spending, and Alex
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thinks he's got dementia all of a sudden?
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And again, Alex's problem isn't that Trump is increasing military spending and cutting
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social welfare programs.
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The problem is that he's saying it out loud.
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The media surrogates are supposed to have plausible deniability about this stuff because
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War is super unpopular and social security is super popular.
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It's really, really funny to realize that at the end of the day, he just wants Trump
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to be more presidential.
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Just be a fucking politician guy who we voted for as a protest candidate.
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Just lie to us.
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It's going to be alright while you steal and rob us all blind.
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That's what we want.
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We want to be feeling comfortable while you fucking rob us.
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That's all we want.
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What we're doing is too difficult for us to work with as talk show hosts.
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You don't have any real accountability left.
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You don't really have to ever have an election again.
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You're never going to get impeached.
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Oh my god, I hope they try.
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That would be the funniest day.
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But he's apparently just going to be rich forever.
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Someone like Alex, he actually, eventually the money is going to run up.
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He needs public approval and he can't spin, we're going to put all of your medication
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money into a war.
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He can't do that.
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No, that's usually not going to be popular.
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It sucks.
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I think we should actually shoot him into space.
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And I mean this genuinely.
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I think it is a good idea for us to shoot, put him into a rocket with whatever life support
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you want.
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I don't give a shit.
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And just fire it into space.
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That way there's a symbol that no one can ever do this shit again.
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Otherwise we'll fire you into space.
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Send him to Mars and tell him he gets to be the Elon.
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Absolutely.
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It's all yours buddy.
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Land as nice as you like.
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Well I think that that's costly and I think that it's a difficult thing to pull off.
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Alex has a counter suggestion which is that Trump should probably just take a day off.
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Take a little me day.
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Maybe pray a little bit.
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Maybe pray a little bit.
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It's time to pray.
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At 50 something I feel like I got, you know, I'm kind of like, Ooh.
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And people, my family said, you remember what you did last night?
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Wouldn't be something bad, but I'd like to say something or do something.
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I don't remember that.
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No drinking, no nothing.
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Just exhausted.
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Work 20 hours.
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Do not make good decisions.
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When I've been working 20 hours, he's 79.
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He's Superman.
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Nobody's not saying he's got a personal nuclear reactor running him, but he ain't Superman
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in the real world.
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You call him Superman, but not really Superman.
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Trump should really take a few days off and just pray and just think about this.
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Pray for President Trump.
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And I'm dead serious when I say that.
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Because we had repudiated the left.
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There's a global awakening.
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Populism is winning.
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We're in the fourth turning.
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Great things are happening and I want to salvage Trump.
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I'm going to criticize him.
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I'm going to give it to him with both perils, but it's from a place of love for all of us,
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including him.
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These people that were never Trumpers and said, damn Trump screwed Trump.
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I hate Trump, but Trump in prison.
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That's all his best buddies now.
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Yeah, we're running out of fertilizer folks.
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Who cares if you want to salvage Trump?
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Why?
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Why do you want to?
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This is nonsense.
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Just fucking for God's sakes, everybody.
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I get into the Oval Office, shut the doors and the windows, hit him in the head with
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a paperweight and then call it.
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Oh, he's sick.
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And then just, we move on with our fucking lives.
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Everybody will go, oh, thank God.
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And then we'll go.
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We'll just go.
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You can go back to being a piece of shit who's racist and all that shit.
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We just got to start from somewhere, which is hit him in the head with a paperweight.
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Something.
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I mean, it's cheaper than the space shuttle.
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More expensive probably than the prayer.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
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So Alex is still the most fiscally responsible option.
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Yeah.
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And the White House, the paperweights are going to be, you know, they're not just like
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a snow globe somebody bought from the airport.
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No, you have to replace it.
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Yeah.
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Might be an antique.
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It's probably got George Washington's fingerprints on it.
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Yeah.
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Which you could frame him.
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I mean.
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If you got that fingerprint onto Trump.
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I think honestly you should have to hit him with something, with like an artifact from
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the founding fathers.
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Like this is George Washington's sword.
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We are using it to fucking prune the tree of Liberty for fuck's sake.
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Yeah.
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Who would you use?
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The problem is nobody killed King George.
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That should have been how the revolution ends.
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And then we keep something as a memento.
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Yeah, that, I mean, it would strike a certain amount of fear, I think.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No kings.
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I mean it.
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I fucking mean no kings, my man.
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We'd never wash the blade.
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No, we keep it there.
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So look, we're joking around here about killing kings and what have you.
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Alex, he's talking about the idea of ground troops in Iran.
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Right.
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And he reads a headline that his take on it is deeply disturbing.
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Iran beefs up defenses, recruits children as it prepares for ground war.
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And idiots go, oh kids, you think a 12 year old, 13 year old with a grenade launcher?
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And a machine gun that's trained on it is, they're worse than adults historically because
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they just are fearless.
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Child soldiers are nothing to turn your nose up on.
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But people that don't study war think it's a joke.
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I think Alex has the wrong take on child soldiers.
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Does he think when, does he think, I think it's a joke in the sense like, ha ha ha.
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Can you believe this child would have a gun?
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Yeah, we could, we could.
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Any adult could beat a child if they both have a gun.
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I think he really does not understand how we feel about child soldiers generally.
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And he's like the guy who would do save the children rallies and all that shit.
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He shouldn't be arguing on the axis of should you be afraid of child soldiers?
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You gotta fear those fuckers.
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Those people don't even give a shit, man.
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You and I are afraid of mortality.
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They don't know it exists.
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Yeah.
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He should be disgusted just by the fact that this exists.
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That's a prospect.
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That's supposed to be like, here's what you've missed.
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You think it's funny.
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Those are super soldiers.
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You are Kurt rustling your ass out there if you think this is going to go okay.
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Children don't have a governor.
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They don't know when to stop.
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They have no souls.
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Man.
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What a wild episode.
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What a fucked up asshole.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Trump, he said that shit about Medicare and all the war economy and stuff.
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He said some other things too that Alex is having a tough time with.
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All right.
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He's got a thousand data points times a thousand, but let's just, you're smart too.
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Come on.
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Trump is actually the president right now, but if you can influence him, you're going
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to be doing bad things.
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He even said yesterday, you know, I have evil people can manipulate me and God, you're evil.
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This is yours.
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And you're, he's like, you know, you're evil as shit, but then you suck my weenie.
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Sorry.
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He didn't know what he said.
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You know what I mean?
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Metaphysically sorry.
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Get the clip.
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Clip 31 yesterday.
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It doesn't sound real.
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And I'm on the show saying Trump is influenced by evil people.
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He can be manipulated.
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They go, they go, boss, you didn't look at your full list.
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We put, I didn't even see the clip.
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They go, he says that.
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I said, who's he saying to?
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And they go, we think it's Levin, which it was Levin later.
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We learned.
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And it's just like Twilight Zone music is cute in my head.
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I love people that were nice to me, even if they're bad people, I'll do anything for them.
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It is the most perfect reference.
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It should be Twilight Zone music you're hearing.
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You are hearing the music of be careful what you wish for.
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That's like 40% of all Twilight Zone episodes is just, Hey, I bet you wished for this thing.
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And now you wish you hadn't.
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Yeah.
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It's the fantasy island of now you're now getting treated by Trump treats everyone.
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Now you figured it out.
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Congratulations.
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He's run out of other people to spank with his belt.
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Cause there was time now.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah.
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I think that is right up there with, I like to hang out with losers, uh, bad people who
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are nice to me.
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I love being around them.
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They can get me to do anything.
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He might as well just be like, Hey, you got to give it up to the Somali pirates.
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Hey, I, I, one of my dear, dear friends is Roger Stone and Jeffrey Epstein because they
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were nice to me.
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They're pieces of shit, but they were real nice to me.
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Oh man.
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Can you believe people thought he was, Oh boy.
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Good times.
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Yeah.
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And then he comes back from break and uh, he's uh, feeling honest and it's a, it's an
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honest mood where he talks about honesty.
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All of the listeners and viewers are respected.
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I appreciate to know you've got a 100% commitment from me to tell you exactly what I think the
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truth is and nothing else, but I don't do it for you.
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I do it for God.
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When I tell the truth in my soul, I feel warm and good and close to God.
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When I even war games sometimes, is it best not to say this for the greater good in just
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five means I feel the Holy Spirit start pulling away a little bit and I'm like, Ooh, no, just
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do what's right.
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That's the most sophisticated thing.
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Don't think about what it's going to do.
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Doing the right thing is always the right thing.
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May not be at the moment, maybe painful, but in the end it's the right thing to do
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and things turn out better if you do.
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I have not done a good job today.
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I've done a good job covering the news about the real stuff here.
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I hate it so much, but plugging.
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If I plug once an hour to a good plug, we have money to run the operation.
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Oh boy.
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You said he hated way too early.
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You didn't know another haymaker was coming.
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Wow.
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That was a one, two.
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Yeah.
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Damn.
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Wow.
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The only thing to make is that he's always honest and he doesn't do that strategic communication
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stuff.
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Right.
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God would literally make him feel bad if he pretended to have one position because he
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knew that his real position was unpopular.
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But repeatedly on this same episode, he's complained about Trump being too honest about
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his desire to cut Medicare.
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So like, what is it, dude?
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Do as Trump does and not as I say.
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Wait.
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Hmm.
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Or, yeah, actually that one does make more sense.
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Yeah.
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I think this is stupid.
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It's bad.
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Pretty nakedly manipulative.
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The idea of him, I mean, see, this is the problem with any kind of cosmic entity.
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Whatever you believe they are or are not capable of, if there is something that exists out
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there with the probability of destruction via blasphemy, this dude's gone.
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Well, sure.
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But I think that, you know, maybe this divine force doesn't intervene and they're just sitting
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up there like, holy shit, when he dies, it's going to be bad.
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But do you see-
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So maybe, you know, like maybe it's a waiting thing.
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Right.
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But with a guy like this, not intervening is the intervening.
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You know what I mean?
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Not getting this guy out of our hair is saying, check this out, see what happens with this
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fucker.
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You know?
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So that's the problem with cosmic entities.
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Arguably, you could flip this around and say that not smiting him is a test of your faith.
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Is a test of my faith.
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Yeah.
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Because you have to live in a world where this guy doesn't have cosmic consequences.
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Sure.
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Maybe?
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Yeah, sure.
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I don't know.
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Oh, that works.
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So Alex realizes that Pam Bondi has been fired as the Attorney General and the acting Attorney
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General is his arch nemesis.
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Right.
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I'm going to skip past that clip.
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Because it's uneventful and he's just disappointed.
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Yeah, that'll happen.
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But you're-
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Oh, sorry.
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I just thought of the Book of Job, like the idea of the Book of Job being me not getting
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tortured or anything like that.
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No, no death or anything.
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I just have to watch this fucker be fine.
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That is torture.
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That's a solid torture.
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It's pretty close to your life.
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Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
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Well done.
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Well done, ironic god.
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So ironic god is another twist for you.
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All right.
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I thought it was a little bit suspicious.
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Alex bringing up this Gilgamesh stuff and all this nonsense and we're going to talk
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for two hours about the creation of man.
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Seems strange.
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And it turns out this is just more brokered programming.
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Oh fuck, of course it is.
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It's just Dark Journalist.
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You son of a bitch.
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God damn it.
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So Dark Journalist is on and he clearly sent Alex these things.
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Talking points?
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Yeah.
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Alex has seeded the field for the crops to grow now that Dark Journalist is here.
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But I think that Alex really doesn't like him and it's pretty funny.
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But I'll tell you a story that I haven't told.
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It was right before J6, like a month before we were having a rally, half a million people
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marched.
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The day before it or so, I'm walking down the street to go to a restaurant with my wife
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and crew and I'm not somebody that ever really has fear since I've been an adult.
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And there's like a black SUV 50 yards ahead and three or four people come out in like
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black trench coats and I'm walking 50 yards getting closer as they're talking and I've
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never had palpable fear shoved me back.
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My wife wasn't paying attention.
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The security guys weren't really like, I revolted in fear and I looked at these people as they
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got in the car and they were like, I'm not people I swear to God this is true.
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Never told a story.
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Like look like professional basketball players, but they were like seven feet tall.
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The biggest was like seven feet.
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I was like six foot seven.
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And I looked and they literally had like vampire ears, white skin and the guy turned like a
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pig nose and he had this he had a you know, a classic hat on whatever gangster had and
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they look and duck into the car and I was like frozen.
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My wife's like, what's going on?
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That's a true story.
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Like it literally hit me like I was scared.
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That's a true story.
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So the only time I saw them like men in black was in DC broad daylight.
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Swear to God I saw it.
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It's interesting how it's like a reality disruption.
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Also the fear and the energy thing that you're talking about.
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So dark journalist talks for a little bit and then Alex keeps interrupting him like
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yeah but what about the guys I saw?
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Yeah come on and play play the game.
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So dark journalist even explains like this group of people who looked kind of vaguely
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like Asians who were shorter and they're the people that are often considered to be the
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men in black and Alex is like what about my guys that were tall?
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Play with me play with me play with me I'm a big child play with me I'm allowing you
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here and dark journalist is doing basically everything right except two things.
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One he's not playing and then two he's saying no question about it to every single thing
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Alex says and I think he's getting annoyed.
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I think Alex is very annoyed with this guy.
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That's annoying.
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Yeah so dark journalist believes that many of these people like representative Burchette
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and some of these other folks who were coming out and talking about UFOs they may be a limited
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hangout.
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Okay.
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This is part of a program too when things start to get hot and heavy.
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You look at people like Burchette, Burleson and Luna they've all been brought forward
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as the UFO people right for some reason they're congressional people who talk about UFOs.
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Now there's no real interesting reason in the background why they should but even Gates
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was in that program as well.
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So there's something in that loop I know there's a Florida connection because Rubio also talked
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about the UFO file.
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So there's something in the root of all this where they're trying to say something in the
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background is saying there's a whole wave of this technology that's coming in.
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We're going to reveal.
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So what's his positioning himself as that?
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He is there's no question about it.
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He's supposed to be the first who's the one who can talk openly about it to a new generation.
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And the only thing I think is fascinating about what he's doing is calling it a demon.
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You see if you're a VP and you call a UFOs demons you are really you know that is a totally
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thing about national security.
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It's taking this guy's idea where is he coming from by saying UFOs are demons.
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You know so when I think about you know that's way what that's been war game that's been
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planned so in your opinion why is he doing that.
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I think what they're trying to do they're going to reveal UFOs and they want to take
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the Christian audience which is generally we'll look at this and say you know it's outside
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of Christian purview with the UFO file.
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But that's not actually true but that's how they view it and they say we're going to be
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able to pull this in by saying hey they're interdimensional devils.
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We'll just pull them in this way and that's how they're a threat and therefore we have
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a war office we're fighting demons.
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Alex believes that they're interdimensional demons.
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Absolutely.
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One of them attacked Tucker in his sleep.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck is going on?
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We're at cross purposes here.
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I mean I appreciate your fucking hard sci-fi nerdy bullshit.
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I respect that.
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That's great.
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But you got to understand we're working in an also ethereal kind of more sandbox kind
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of sci-fi with the heavy fantasy element.
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We're more YA.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Elven ears and vampires.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that this is the third reason Alex does not like dark journalist which is I think
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there's something in his terms that are I'm not into religion and I think that maybe people
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who have religious beliefs are dumb.
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Yep.
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Yeah yeah he's exactly saying that.
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We have to trick the rubes.
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We're using him as a front piece to trick the rubes into accepting that demons are actually
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aliens and it's totally fine to be a Christian and so forth.
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Have a war on the aliens who are demons.
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Well yeah.
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J.D. Vance is the limited hangout aspect of this that's normalizing this within like Christian
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ideas which is what Alex is doing too.
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Right.
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Right.
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Oops.
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So Alex asks him like alright man who are the alien groups?
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I know there's like bug people.
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Sure.
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And all that.
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Spider beings.
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Who do we got?
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Alright.
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Let me ask you this from your research.
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Not getting into speculation but just generally what's thought.
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Cause you have all these whistle blowers on talk shows.
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Oh I met with the reptoid.
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But they threatened to kill me but it's obviously fake you can see it.
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But looking at this versus interdimensional versus visitors versus whatever.
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What are the known?
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Like who do we.
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Who is it?
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Who is it that Eisenhower met with or what is it?
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Well I think you have off world visitors.
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I don't think there's any question about that.
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But at the same time if you go deep into it you're going to find the Atlantean explanation
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for so much.
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No I agree with you that it is actually a real break away symbol.
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The globalists say they're agreeing high tech reservations keep us like animals at an agrarian
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level and that the earth will just be like a nature preserve as Jeff Bezos said well
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that already happened.
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I agree.
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It's a break away human whatever.
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It's break away humans that's what most people I talk to say it is that basically are now
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use us as a form of entertainment or body parts or they still need the old to control
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the new or there's some fetish keeping us around.
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But this isn't aliens this is what we hear about with all the ancient cultures you know
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going back to all the ancient texts.
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Is that what you're saying?
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I hope that it comes through in this but he really is he hates this guy.
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Like he lets him talk for a couple seconds and then is like fuck this I'm going to talk.
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You are so boring you are so boring you are so boring you are so boring.
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Bored!
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Yeah.
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I am bored by you.
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Yes.
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Whoo boring.
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It's a great energy.
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It's Marty Schechter levels of resentment that Alex is feeling here.
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Yeah it is like you had to have had to pay extra to keep Alex there.
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There's two packages.
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There's the Alex gets to go home for a couple hours and you get to run things and you know
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it won't be as successful.
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And then there's the you get to force Alex to listen to fucking anything.
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I would suggest that maybe even another level is that Alex you're talking to him for two
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hours at the end of the show.
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He uses a lot of time in the beginning of the show.
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He did some set up for you.
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To protect he's interested in the things that you're going to talk about.
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Because I noticed that he starts like he shoe horns in Gilgamesh out of nowhere.
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It's so obvious that it's an email that dark journalists sent him.
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When I talked to him he said well it's nothing at all like we understand because when the
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people get abducted in these experiences they go through things.
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It's not like they get put into a ship and grabbed and dragged along.
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They go through walls.
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So there's a whole different dynamics.
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There's a whole different physics that's involved here.
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This is the apotheum.
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This is the physical reality distortion physics that goes along with this.
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That's the problem.
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But this goes back to the Epic of Gilgamesh Samaria.
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It all describes this.
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So does the Old Testament.
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So the Egyptians.
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So you hear all this new stuff but it's in all the ancient texts.
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So clearly this isn't just modern propaganda.
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They're trying to spin it.
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There's something else going on.
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There's no question about it.
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No this phenomena has been with us since the beginning of time.
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There's no question about that.
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This goes all the way back to the Mayans and the Egyptians.
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I'm glad you mentioned Gilgamesh because that is actually the original Noah's Ark story.
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What a shock that you brought up this thing that I told you to bring up.
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What a two man game we're running.
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It sounded so natural how you brought up that thing.
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You shoehorned it into the conversation and now I can get to talk about it.
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God man it's bad.
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Bad chemistry.
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How is it possible.
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How do people watch that.
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You know it's like it's like when you see Mr. Beast and you say Mr. Bean.
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Mr. Bean a font of charisma.
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Mr. Beast is like an empty suck where anything that resembling a human being should go.
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And yet people watch him.
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I don't understand it right.
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This is insanely bad.
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You could go find anything better.
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There's so many better things where you're not even looking.
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Yeah if this wasn't the show that I watch you know like and comment on.
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I would find this cringey in a way that I probably would not want to watch it.
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But because it is Alex it's really funny to me.
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I think it's great.
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I mean it makes me appreciate.
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Here's what it makes me appreciate.
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It makes me appreciate Morning Sports Radio.
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Like the two dudes you know who they are.
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They are nondescript.
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They have nothing interesting about them but they know how to do it.
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They just do the thing.
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It sounds natural.
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Or even like Alex and his gold sponsor.
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Yeah back in the day.
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No now.
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Oh now.
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Kirk Elliott.
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
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The two of them know what they're doing.
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They're trying to sell gold and like Alex has to push sometimes for like a harder sale.
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But their rhythm is generally way less.
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This is awful.
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This is awful to listen to.
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So Dark Journalist you know that General went missing.
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And something else went missing.
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And that's the food that was in front of Alex because he's eating well.
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Dark Journalist is talking.
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You see how the UFO file gets right into the heart of the national security state but it
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spills out into industry.
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As a matter of fact the project that McCaslin was working on and that Monica Reza his assistant
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who also disappeared were working on had to do with that memory metal which they had redeveloped
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from UFO craft.
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That metal is so important because it can withstand any kind of heat.
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So we can make any kind of space engine with it.
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This was the crucial aspect.
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And for some reason these people who actually had patented this technology now they're working
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under the government auspices but you have this corporate control.
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They go out and patent it.
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Well was that one of the mistakes that were made in the process here.
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And now they just released the call that McCaslin's wife made to 911.
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And she says well I get the impression that he intentionally you know he changed his clothes
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and I get the impression that he intentionally you know he left everything here that was
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important and took off.
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So he's leaving on purpose.
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Turned off his cell phone and left and never does that.
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Exactly and here's where I want your expertise Alex because I learned about predictive programming
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largely from listening to your show and the predictive programming in the background on
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this is extraordinary.
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Alex made up a bunch of dumb shit that inspired Dark Journalist.
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Now Dark Journalist is being interviewed as if he's an expert on Alex's show.
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It's a wonderful cycle where no one knows anything and everyone's a genius.
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You might notice that Dark Journalist doesn't mention a couple of details about the McCaslin
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story like the fact that police put out a silver alert after he was reported missing
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that he's been retired since 2013 and this metal alloy was invented in the 90s.
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He's trying to make it all seem so suspicious and recent so it looks more connected than
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it is because Dark Journalist gets more clicks and makes more money when he exploits other
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people's real pain like this.
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It's gross.
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Yep.
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That's how it works.
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Yeah he knows what he has to know what he's doing.
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I mean he's grasping at straws in uh whatever.
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It is it is that that like it is that hard sci-fi narrative structure you know where
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it's like ah you can see from the patents like we're talking about a global international
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alien-based conspiracy and yet at the same time a big a big crux point is going and getting
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a patent.
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Yeah and it's also like she co-invented uh co-discovered this alloy it's a family of
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alloys yeah it's like it's not something that you're disappearing over it this is fucking
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stupid yeah and it it's disrespectful to these people's families quite frankly.
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It's interdimensional contracts again if you can travel through space and time but you're
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bound by fucking a signed piece of paper you're out of your goddamn mind.
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I think you know what go fucking nuts talking about Eisenhower meeting with whatever aliens
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you want.
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Delightfully.
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He's dead it's not harming anybody.
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Yep.
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But these people like they are recently missing and presumed probably maybe dead.
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Which is why it gets me more clicks.
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Yeah that sucks.
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It really does.
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So anyway he was saying that the predictive programming about this is really strong and
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he believes that he's figured out what the model was there was a tv show that primed
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us for this it's not the X-Files it uh it's Breaking Bad.
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Okay that sounds right.
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I think that the template that's being used and I get into steganography very often as
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you know I think that the template that's being used believe it or not is Breaking Bad
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it's the television show.
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I believe it.
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Breaking Bad because if you go back into the pieces of that show McCaslin's disappearance
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are almost exactly like Walter White's disappearance in the show and this is the strange thing
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about it he had worked at Los Alamos.
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Boo!
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All this is McCaslin 20 some odd years later so that show is going on say in 2010 and here
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we have 15 16 years later this guy disappearing and the template for it there's actually a
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clip that's online that's available just about certain aspects of that show that have nothing
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to do with the McCaslin case but one of the clips is about Walt's cell phone is missing
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and there's this whole aspect about Walt's cell phone if you go into those details and
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match them up with the McCaslin missing disappearance case it's very strange because the facts almost
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line up directly.
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Well that's like the Simpsons where thousands of times they call they call it lesser magic
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but they believe not as if they tell you but if they tell you up front they believe
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it greases the skids for some metaphysical thing to happen.
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Exactly.
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It's like a lubrication.
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It opens up.
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Right they call it playing with the medium.
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So Walter and Jesse were kidnapped by drug lord Tuco Salamanca and then returned like
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a day later and he had to fake to his wife that he was in a fugue state.
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I don't think Dark Journalist has seen Breaking Bad but I think maybe he saw a meme or a blog
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post trying to connect to this missing person.
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And like Walter White's the phone was like it was his second phone it was his drug phone.
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The number of things so like here's what I think they think they're doing right.
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Sometimes people who know things who really know them will start trying to explain them
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to you and your eyes will glaze over and you'll go ah like that right and then they will remember
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something and they'll be like okay this isn't quite it but if you've seen this movie let
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me try and give you a visual kind of thing for you to grasp onto because obviously the
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understanding is there.
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It's like the Matrix and Philosophy books that's what they think they're doing.
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But they are going like that's exactly what it is which is not what it is.
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And Breaking Bad is telling me messages to decode about a fucking retired general.
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Come on man.
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Not how it works.
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So Alex he does a lot of research.
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Sure.
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Praise a lot.
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But his 9-11 prediction didn't come from study which he has claimed in the past.
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It didn't come from prophetic dreams which he also has claimed in the past.
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It came because he saw that that Pearl Harbor movie was coming out.
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There we go.
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People ask me how I knew they were in stage 9-11 I had a lot of data points but the last
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thing was a few months before Pearl Harbor the movie came out and a couple other Pearl
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Harbor movies.
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They were priming it I can just see it.
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But let's talk about that.
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And I love Rogan.
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I'm not saying about him.
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He has a bunch of guests on.
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But he's like oh my god the other day how does Steven Spielberg know about aliens so
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early close encounters all that is government propaganda he's been read in obviously.
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Speak to that.
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Absolutely.
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And all those big UFO movies being in production for multiple years perfectly for this time
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and what it speaks to what's about to happen.
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There's no question.
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Spielberg in particular comes from that very elite slice.
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They figured this is a guy we can work with.
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Kubrick actually was a little erratic for their purpose.
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I hate you.
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From what I've heard about him and his background.
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But Spielberg is a little bit different.
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They might have said well this is a guy who's interested in UFOs.
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Let's have him take on this whole story.
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He's so ahead of everyone.
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He did Close Encounters in 1977.
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That's 50 years ago practically.
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So you know he had the whole thing down rock solid all the way back then.
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But he became very close with President Reagan.
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And when they did the E.T. movie they showed it at the White House.
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And then Reagan came forward and said you know I really want to give an honor and tribute
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to Spielberg.
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Everyone in this room knows that movie E.T. is not fiction.
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It's fact.
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So all those people in that room remembered it.
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I saw it in the news.
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Elaborate on that.
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What a crazy statement.
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What a crazy statement.
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Um yeah Spielberg told that story and he was like he was joking.
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But anyway this predictive programming stuff like I forgot to mention it like in terms
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of our last clip but like all of this is Alex denying God again.
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He knows why the globalists put predictive programming in media and it's because they
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have to in order to get around God's cosmic laws about free will.
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This isn't a sincere question he asked about like why do they do this.
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Is it something he even answers his own question and says to lubricate.
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It's like he can't say that he can't think that this is about God and free will.
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It is it is a an admittance that contextually Alex like you can't take Alex out of context
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because Alex exists only within context in the moment.
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It is within his show that he does this but once he leaves his show that what he says
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doesn't mean anything on the show.
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So now he goes to this place and he can say whatever he wants there.
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But once he leaves there none of that stuff means anything on back to the show.
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And if this is two hours of brokered programming none of this counts as part of the show.
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This is Dark Journalist show and I'm here to go to eat.
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I'm hungry.
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And if Dark Journalist like in advance was like I don't want to be a part of any of your
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weird religious shit.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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No pretty deal.
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I'll eat some more.
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Yeah.
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The deal falls apart if I force God on him.
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Done and done.
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So I'll just pretend God isn't behind all my God stuff.
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Works for me.
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Cool man.
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Anyway one of the most shocking clips we've ever uncovered was the one where Alex was
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talking about Trump being a mobster.
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Sure.
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And all that shit.
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Yeah.
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This one I think is actually more revelatory.
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Okay.
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And if this is if I mean Alex is a fucking clown.
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Sure.
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And I always think Reagan is a key figure when you're looking at this if you want to
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look for pinpoints on the board in the past and how it connects up because even Trump
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What I found out is very interesting and I don't know if you're aware of this but Trump
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was part of the continuity of government group in 1987.
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They called him in.
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He was part of the disaster planning.
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He knows a lot, a lot.
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Wrong time before he gets into politics.
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He has his uncle's UFO flower.
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Yeah he was roped in under infra-guard infrastructure protection.
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Yes exactly.
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And what's interesting when we look at the continuity of government program it is the
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perfect response tool that they can use for a UFO threat.
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So wait hold on.
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Why didn't that come up?
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Why didn't that come up in the 26th?
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Like he's part of COG?
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Oh my god.
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He's a part of the continuity of government infra-guard shit.
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Like this is what are you talking about?
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He's been in that since 1987?
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I'm telling you it's a checklist.
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I don't remember what I don't remember when it was but a few months ago I was like there's
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just a checklist.
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Name all the things that he thinks are good and it will be it'll just go down the checklist.
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What's the line?
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You know when will you jump up?
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Is it whenever you reveal that he was COG?
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Should be.
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Is that the line that makes you jump off?
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Because there's gonna be another one.
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What's next?
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But this to me is a really really dangerous thing for Alex because we now really need
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to know when he became aware of this.
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Because if he ever supported Trump while knowing that he was involved in COG since 1987.
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Unreal.
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Unreal.
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Seems relevant.
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It is a complete dismantling.
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So I'm gonna skip past this next clip too because it's really just a long Alex being
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like no listen to me Dark Journalist.
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I want you to go deep.
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I've asked you this question a number of times but I really want you to dig in on this.
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And it just goes on for like a minute and a half.
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Jesus Christ.
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And then the question at the end is are the globalists behind schedule?
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Yep.
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Yep.
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They're behind schedule.
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I just was fucking blowing hard to try and kill time.
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I'm just waiting for my next bite of sandwich.
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Let me ask you Dark Journalist and I need you to go deep.
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How would you describe the times that we're in right now?
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Really talk long for about 15 to 20 minutes.
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That's how long it takes me to eat this fucking panda that I got from it.
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And then when I swallow it I will talk over you.
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Yeah.
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Until I'm hungry again.
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Absolutely.
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So that leaves us with one last clip.
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God damn it this is funny.
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Okay.
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I don't think there could be a better punchline for back to back Dark Journalist episodes.
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Oh my God.
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Listen to this shit.
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Okay.
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He didn't before it was the it's bad.
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I'm trying to figure it out.
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So let's go to your exhibits because I'm interrupting you a bunch of a great job getting a list.
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Let's start at exhibit six the finks which the agent said had itself under it.
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Now the scan to show that's there.
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We'll go to these exhibits because you got to send a bunch of them today and I apologize
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if I got into them.
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Why is this important?
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He once again has to rush through his exhibits.
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He calls it the finks again.
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I think he even I don't think he called him Dark Journalist.
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I think he called him journalist.
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I think he cut out a bunch of it and he threw the D and he's like you've done a great job
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journalist.
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Because it's not sincere.
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So seriously tell me what's going on under this finks.
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Oh God.
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The finks.
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The finks.
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So what's the importance of these exhibits that I'm contractually obligated to?
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You sent me this email and I have to say them.
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I have to say them.
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So I have a big theory and that is that Alex fucking does not like Dark Journalist and
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does not like that this is where his career is at.
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And to anybody who would disagree with my position I would like to say.
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Because you're the expert.
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I mean wide spectrum you're the expert on accuracy because I'm pretty smart about it
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so I know your research is the best channel.
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Thank you.
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There it is.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you Alex.
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I found it.
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You're gonna get me.
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You're the expert.
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Finally.
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Finally.
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Finally.
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It's taken a while.
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It's taken a while.
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I think does the show end now?
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No.
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Did we finish?
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No but it's cathartic.
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It's cathartic as hell.
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Is this like there will be the blood?
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Will you beat me to death and then be like it's finished?
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There will be the blood.
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There will be the blood.
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There will be the blood.
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Hey I guess I can't make fun of anybody for calling him journalist.
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Fucking finks.
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Fucking finks.
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Over in Egypt.
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I didn't mispronounce Egypt.
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Egypt.
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There you go.
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So what a silly stupid fucking show.
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Trump is out here going crazy.
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Alex is doing whatever he can to figure out like how can I make a brand and I think it's
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really funny that.
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How much would it cost us to take a couple hours from a show?
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I don't know.
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I'd be willing to explore it.
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I legitimately did think about like what level of work would go into creating a fake
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website and like.
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And trying to yeah.
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Yeah and seeing if I could broker some programming.
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I think it would probably take a little more than I'm willing to put in to make it believable.
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But yeah I don't know.
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Maybe if we maybe maybe.
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I'm sure nobody who listens to this show knows how to set things up.
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Well I'm sure they would but it's not worth their effort either.
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No it's not worth their effort.
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But yeah I don't know.
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It can't be that much.
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It can't be that much.
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Dark journalist can't be some sort of thrown around millions of dollars kind of guy.
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I don't know maybe he's independently wealthy.
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Maybe he that's a good point.
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Maybe journalist does have all the money.
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See here's the thing.
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We know a number of journalists and it's not a super lucrative field.
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It is in fact the opposite.
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It's very hard to get a gig somewhere that like will publish your stuff.
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Especially in the light.
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Yeah that's the thing.
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Dark journalism.
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Very lucrative.
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So lucrative.
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Lucrative positions.
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Well I bet that's more true on average I imagine.
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I hate to say this but I love this guy.
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I know you do.
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I know you do.
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He's given me something that has been absent for a while which is a little whimsy.
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I love that Alex hates him.
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Yeah I do too.
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And you can feel it.
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I like that.
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And Alex feels trapped.
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And I like that too.
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It's very funny.
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So I'm just gonna become a dark journalist.
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You're a journalist guy?
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Yeah.
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I'm a dark journalist.
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Yep.
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Alex has already said that I'm the expert so.
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Well there's only one thing left to do.
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Take the journalism down.
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Yep.
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We'll do some journalism on journalism.
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Oh we'll go to journalism school.
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Yes.
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Mizzou.
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My alma mater.
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One of the best journalism schools in the country.
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They love There Will Be the Blood.
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So we'll be back with another episode.
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Yep.
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Soon.
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But until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's solidfight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm Dizzy X. Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah woo yeah woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
