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N-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight.
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Daaaad.
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Bleh.
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Bleh.
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Damn, Ed, Jordan, I'm sweating.
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Aaaah.
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Bleh.
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Bleh.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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It's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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Knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys,
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saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledgefight.
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Riddler.
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Riddler.
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Riddler.
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Bleh.
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Need.
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Need.
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Money.
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Riddler.
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Riddler.
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Riddler.
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Riddler.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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And.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Andy and.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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Please.
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What month is it?
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It's April.
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Oh shit.
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Yeah.
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Uh oh.
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What's your bright spot today?
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There are no traditions anymore for the rest of the year.
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It was really just the first couple months.
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It was just those first couple months?
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Yeah.
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Well.
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So I'll just, I'll tell you my bright spot.
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Okay.
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It's honestly, I'm conflicted about this.
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Oh my god.
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I, I said I wasn't going to talk about Survivor.
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Sure.
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And I want, I meant to.
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Right.
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I meant to not talk about it.
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You had every intention to not talk about it.
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Sincere.
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Right.
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From the heart.
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Yeah.
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I gotta cut this shit out.
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Right.
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Um, but I was watching last night's episode of Survivor.
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Mm hmm.
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And something happened that I got really excited about and then I felt really disappointed
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by.
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Oh no.
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So mild spoilers.
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Okay.
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I'm not gonna say who got voted out or anything like that.
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Alright, alright, alright.
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But, um, so Jeff Probst.
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Yeah.
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Uh, he starts giving a speech to everybody.
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Mm hmm.
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About how, uh, they were trying to come up with ways to use nature to inform the twists
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and the games.
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Sure.
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And that nature had blessed them with, uh, like a perfect, uh, metaphor.
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Cautiously optimistic about this?
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Blood moon.
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Less optimistic.
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There was a blood moon.
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Hahahaha.
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And so Jeff Probst is like, there's going to be a twist.
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Alright.
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That will fundamentally shake this game forever.
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Werewolves are real.
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That would be one.
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That would be, that would shake everything.
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah.
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But it's a blood moon.
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Right.
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It's a twist that will change the game forever.
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Right.
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How can this not be my big pitch of make them bleed?
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Make them give you a pint of blood.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I mean, it would be, it would be interesting legally.
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Uh, uh, but you know, on the other hand, they take a lot of shit from people's bodies on
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reality TV shows.
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I don't think it would be illegal for Jeff Probst to be like the person who bleeds into
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this cup the fastest is immune.
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The fastest.
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Ooh, that's a good question.
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Uh, can't be voted out.
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How would you, here's, here's my question though, right?
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So you're saying it's a speed bleeding challenge?
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Speed bleeding.
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So now, now I'm thinking, looking at my own body, where does blood come out the fastest
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from?
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I think chopping my femoral artery and then I'm dead in 30 seconds.
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Nope.
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Okay.
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Here's where the legally comes into it.
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There probably would have to be, um, some sort of rules around where you could.
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Yeah.
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I like, I like that in my fantasy, I'm like, Oh, here's the trick.
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I'll kill myself.
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That'll be fast.
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Got him.
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Got him.
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I know it's not ever going to happen, but it felt like the closest that we were ever
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going to get to my fantasy version of completely insane Jeff Probst, uh, really going too far
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with the premise.
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Yeah.
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And the fact that it was a blood moon, I was like, it's right there.
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This is happening.
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You know, for a minute I thought, this is, this is fucking happening.
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We're losing it.
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Yeah.
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And then it didn't happen.
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What happened?
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Um, what was the theme?
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They just voted out three people.
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Cause of a blood moon?
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Yeah.
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Cause it was just extra blood, extra bloody.
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Yeah.
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Like the whole, the whole speech that Probst was given was this, like, there's a twist
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that's going to change the game forever.
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It's something that's never happened on the show before.
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Like, well yeah, bleed in a cup.
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Yeah.
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From your hand.
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Squeeze blood from a stone, literally.
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Yes.
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Um, but no, it was just that no one, they've never had an episode where three people were
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voted out.
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That was, that sucks.
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Like three tribal councils.
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Uh, yeah.
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That is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is interesting about that game.
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It was, it was fine.
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It's an escalation in terms of like, yeah, there have been episodes where two people
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have been voted out before.
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Sure.
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That's happened.
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Yeah.
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Um, but it wasn't like it, it zigged when it could have zagged.
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And I think that that was the, that was the problem.
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Like something really upsetting should have been the twist that will change the game forever.
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I mean, you can't say blood moon without me, without the, the either, either straight
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up werewolf or like, Oh, blood sanguination.
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You're going to take blood from something.
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I think the idea that they wanted to, uh, you to feel is like the sacrifice of more
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players is, is, is like a sacrifice.
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Like you got to go put your hand in some deer blood and like put it on your forehead or
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some shit like that.
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I don't know.
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That's not a challenge.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Get the Gom Jabbar out there.
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What are you doing?
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Here's the blood moon.
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God, that'd be good.
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That would be good.
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Anyway.
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Um, it's fine.
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I'm not, I got to stop talking about survivor and I swear I will, but what's your bright
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spot?
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Uh, my bright spot is a little abstract.
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I haven't been able to watch, uh, more than like a few innings of a baseball game this
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year.
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Oh no.
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Uh, my beloved Cubs are doing okay.
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Uh, they're not as good as they should be.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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The Cubs are doing okay.
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Uh, they're not as good as they should be, but there's only been a week of the season.
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Uh, the reason that my bright spot though is that I'm still following up with all the
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box scores.
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I'm following the league, you know, and I felt a direct connection to that guy in the
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1920s reading his newspaper, going over the, those scores.
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Chomping on a cigar, looking at the zeros and ones.
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100%.
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No, totally.
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Like there's a stock ticker or some shit on that thing.
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And it's just like, I, for a brief moment, I was like, a hundred years is no time at
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all.
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Yeah.
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You know, it felt cool.
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Earlier before we started the show, we were talking a little bit and, uh, we, we talked
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a bit about basketball and how I used to love basketball.
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And I have vivid memories of that, like looking at the box scores and reading that, like having
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to figure out like, okay, this line is this, like, that's exciting stuff.
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I love a box score.
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Just visualizing like, oh, this was the back and forth of the game.
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And yeah, there's just something about that.
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Like there was a time where you had to imagine you could not watch a replay.
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You couldn't watch a YouTube clip.
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There were no highlights.
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You just had to see that the box score had six hits versus four hits and two errors.
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And you had to imagine what those errors looked like.
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Yeah.
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You know what the problem with an error in baseball is?
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What's that?
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Never as silly as you want it to be.
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It's not, there are some silly errors.
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But almost never.
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It's usually some weird formal thing.
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Yeah.
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You know, it doesn't, it doesn't, no one's, no one's tripping around.
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Yeah.
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Or just a regular mistake, you know, like, oh, I just sailed the ball.
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I threw it a little too high.
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So yeah, that's an error.
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And it's like, yeah, but that's not a, that's not a fun, wacky error.
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No, no.
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Like someone just like slipping and going, going head over head over feet.
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So you're saying that we should institute more banana peels on the diamond.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, definitely.
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All right.
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I will take that proposal into consideration.
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And now I've started thinking, could you do a Harlem Globetrotters of baseball?
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They have one.
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What?
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It's called the Savannah Bananas.
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What?
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What do they do?
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They're just a pure clown show.
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Like they're fantastic.
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They're very good ballplayers, but they, they have singalongs.
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They do crowd stuff.
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They have these, these clips.
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Everybody does dances.
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Sometimes during the, the pitch, they'll have a camera set up.
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So the umpire, the catcher, the batter, the pitcher, and the center fielder and the second
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base and the shortstop, all just start dancing.
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You in like what?
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Synchronized.
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They're all doing the same motions for like 30 seconds.
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And then they throw the pitch and they just move on with the, it's a whole thing.
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How do you, how do they fake the hits and stuff though?
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They don't fake them.
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They're just very good ballplayers.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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They just know exactly where they're going.
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No, I mean it's, but if you're good at baseball and everybody's kind of, kind of working as
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a team, you're going to not be good all the time.
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But there's a lot of stuff that you can control if you and the defense are both kind of on
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the same team in a sort of way.
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If the pitcher isn't trying to get one past you, they can put it where you need it to
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be to hit it where you.
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Right.
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Sometimes it's the time for the pitcher to show off.
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It's a little bit like an all star game.
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You know, sometimes the pitcher goes, ah, I'm going to strike you out.
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Or sometimes the hitter's like, ah, I'm going to hit a home run.
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That kind of, that kind of thing.
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Do the Savannah bananas have a Washington generals?
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They do.
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There's a whole, there's like a whole league.
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And they kind of, they kind of barnstorm a whole league.
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There's like four teams, I think something like that.
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They've just expanded to like 14 clown baseball league.
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100% they barnstorm.
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They've filled out arenas.
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They've filled out stadiums.
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They'll show up.
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They, they yeah, they'll sell out a hundred thousand seats.
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So hold on.
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But if they have four teams, then are three of them, the losers to the bananas or are
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two, like, is there another bananas?
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I do not specifically know how comedy leagues of baseball work in terms of season wide rankings.
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I just know that the Savannah bananas started it as like a thing a while back and it's
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just grown.
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It's gotten big.
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It seems like there's so many more opportunities for things that aren't wildly unsafe in the
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context of basketball and clowning.
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But Hey, you know, the sky's the limit.
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I'm glad, I'm glad they're trying.
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Yeah.
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It's, it is fun.
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It's fun for baseball because for the longest time, every single person who's ever picked
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up a bat is like, you gotta do it the right way.
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There's on red rolls.
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And these guys are like, what if I did a backflip all the time?
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Now hockey seems like that would be tough with, and stuff.
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There've only been like three skaters who've ever done a backflip on skates.
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I think, I think incorporating that in clown business, that could be trouble.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about a little bit of something.
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And before we do that, let's take a moment to say hello to some new ones.
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That's a great idea.
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First shout out to Amanda, Mary Alice, Stuart, and all the good people in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
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Keep fighting the good fight.
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From Cullen, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, happy January birthday to Nick, my weekly bright spot and favorite cat, dad.
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Love, Jillian, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And put on your casual boots and slather up a ketchup sandwich because snip, snip, it's
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the lobster man and I'm coming for your green walls and 5,000 hats.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat.
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So thank you so much to August in Illinois.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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So, Jordan, I'm back from the road and all that.
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You are.
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And we're adjusting back into normal.
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And there's a lot of stuff going on over at Infowars and we're going to get into some
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of that stuff on Monday.
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But today I wanted to ruminate on something.
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And before, just as a little bit of an introduction, I'm going to play you this clip of Alex from
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2005.
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Alright.
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Yeah, this is about survival.
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One thing holding us back is so many so-called alternative truth leaders or patriots are
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just complete psychopathic power trip individuals.
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I mean, they, you see in the public events, they get off on crowds.
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They get off on being told how great they are.
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And I think there's something wrong with somebody that really gets off on that and likes that.
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And that's what they're hungry for.
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That's what they're looking for.
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We're not doing that, folks.
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We are truly disgusted by what's happening.
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So on Wednesday night, Trump asked all the major networks to let him break into their
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normal programming to address the country.
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And it was one of the most bleak pictures I've seen in a very long time.
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For one thing, it interrupted Survivor.
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And I finally kind of made peace with the new season.
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So it was a bit of a setback for me.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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That's why it ended up being a bright spot again.
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Woof.
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Yeah.
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But it was also disgusting.
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I feel like I keep getting tricked by these Trump speeches where there's some buzz and
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anticipation around it, where everyone convinces themselves that he's going to say something
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important and then it just falls flat.
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He didn't say anything that mattered.
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There was no clarity that was provided about the war in Iran.
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I feel like I know less after watching him talk because he's such an obvious liar that
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hearing him talk just gives you new things to doubt.
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Past leaders were orators who gave speeches that calmed a country when times were tense.
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And it's remarkable how Trump is really the opposite.
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Everything could be going well and hearing him speak would make me feel off.
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But the reason that I'm saying that it was disgusting was because a lot of the speech
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was dedicated to talking about how he's killed so many people in Iran.
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A lot of it centered around bragging about killing Iranian government officials, but
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the reality is what he actually was talking about involves a ton of civilian death.
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And seeing him talk about it in such a brazen, flippant way, it felt like it trivialized
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life itself.
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I was feeling really put off, and as I explored that feeling, it dawned on me that this type
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of shit isn't as uncommon as how it made me feel.
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Bush bragged about his acts of war back when he was president.
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Hillary Clinton famously said, we came, we saw, he died, about the Obama administration's
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attacks on Libya.
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My feeling came from a place where I like to imagine that our administration, like the
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leaders, are generally circumspect about killing, and talking about our wars as if they didn't
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actually want to do them.
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I like to imagine that our leaders dislike the idea of international conflicts, but it's
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inevitable and some people are going to get killed.
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But Trump doesn't let you think that.
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It's super clear that he's proud of dropping bombs, and he loves threatening to drop more.
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He was talking about how if Iran doesn't do what he wants, he's going to take them back
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to the Stone Age.
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It's fucked up.
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Obviously, I don't mean to say here that both sides are equally bad or anything like that.
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Just that this overt bloodlust that Trump was displaying wasn't as unfamiliar as my
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revulsion wanted it to be.
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These thoughts sent me into a contemplative depression, and I could barely enjoy the rest
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of Survivor when he came back on after Trump's speech.
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In Survivor, there are a number of traditional paths to victory, and one of the most time
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tested is becoming friends with the worst, least charismatic person out there, and trying
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to get to the end with them.
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If you vote together, that doubles your influence, and if you make it to the jury, make it to
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the point where they're deciding the game, no one's going to vote for that other person
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because they're the loser that you just dragged to the end.
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You only have to be faster than the other person running against the bear.
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Exactly.
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That's a great strategy.
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That strategy has fallen out of favor in modern times because savvy players can see it developing
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fairly early, and they nip it in the bud.
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Now in season 50, there's no real losers that could just fit into that role.
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Some people are more liked than others, but there's no real mopes.
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No one's just around as someone who's going to get played because they're stupid.
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Right.
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It's just not going to happen.
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Right.
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As I was thinking about this and Survivor, it made me think about a recent thing that
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Trump said in a speech that he gave at the Future Investment Initiative.
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Mr. President, what is the one leadership trait the world is missing right now?
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What is missing in leadership?
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Well, it's winning.
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You got to win.
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You know, I've watched a lot of people, leaders, great leaders.
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And you know, the one thing about sports is you break it down into, you know, a two hour
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period, something nice.
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You don't have to wait a lifetime to find out if somebody, a winner or a loser, you
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got a lot of losers, mostly losers, fortunately.
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It's a good thing to have a lot of losers.
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I always like to hang around with losers, actually, because it makes me feel better.
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Oh, my God.
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I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories.
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I like people that like to listen to my success.
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But I find and I found this and I'm only kidding.
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I want to say that sort of.
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I'm only kidding.
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But I'm not.
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So Trump has said a lot of crazy shit in the past few weeks and a lot of it we really haven't
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touched on.
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But this was something that I felt needed its own moment because it directly intersects
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with Alex in a devastating way.
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Prior to teaming up with Trump, Alex was able to maintain his support for capitalism
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by insisting that there was good capitalism and bad capitalism, which was secretly just
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communism wearing a wig.
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The good capitalism was the real capitalism that wanted everyone to succeed because a
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rising tide, it lifts all boats.
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And the bad capitalism was the kind that was predicated on a smaller group of people succeeding
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and placing themselves apart from the rest of us.
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But then Trump came along and Alex had a serious problem on his hands.
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Trump represented all of the characteristics of bad capitalism in the way that Alex preached
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it.
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Trump put his name on all of his buildings.
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He lived a lifestyle that flaunted his affluence in people's face.
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And he had a long running TV show where his catchphrase was, you're fired.
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He was the avatar of wealth exclusion.
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He was super rich and he wanted to make sure you knew it.
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And he could either welcome you into wealth if you pleased him or fire you if he didn't
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like what you were up to.
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As we've talked about in the past, Alex even said on his show that Trump was a mob front
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man whose wealth was a complete facade.
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He understood what Trump represented and he took on the job of making that asshole palatable
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to his audience.
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And when he was in that state, that need, one of the only things Alex could rely on
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in order to try and present this image of Trump is like, yeah, sure, sure.
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He's a billionaire guy.
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Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
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But he's not like those other guys.
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He loves to hang out with successful people.
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Right.
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The globalist will walk past a tenement slum building or whatever and be like, oh, I'm
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so much better than them.
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Not Trump.
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He's a man of the people.
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And competition.
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He wants people to be better than him.
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Everybody should be successful.
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So when you have him giving a speech and he's saying stuff, it's just, it's such a shocking
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wrecking ball to Alex's image of this.
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Of course he loves hanging out with losers.
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It's so blunt.
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They don't threaten his superiority.
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That's pretty much the concept.
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It is.
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I am amazed every time I feel, because I've successfully managed to avoid 99.998% of all
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the things that he said in the past couple of years.
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But every time I hear one thing, one thing, I'm like, it would be so easy to 25th Amendment
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this motherfucker.
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There's no words that aren't crazier than that.
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We have an amendment specifically to the Constitution that's like, hey, crazy pants like this guy,
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get him out.
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Right.
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It's not complicated.
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No.
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And I think that there's a certain amount of whimsy and amusement that you can have
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like, I like to hang out with losers because it makes me feel good.
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I guess.
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Sure.
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But he broke into network coverage, prime time Wednesday night, in order to say, hey,
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what I'm doing in Iran is great.
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We killed a ton of people.
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Yep.
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And flatten the fucking country.
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And also, hey, it'll be done soon.
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Whatever.
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It's not as bad as other wars.
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Those went on really long.
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Did it?
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He gave no definite information.
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That to me, I think is much more 25thable.
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I would say, here's a question that I have.
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If you are, okay, right.
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Sure.
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Bush lied us into war and all of the lies and stuff there were lies.
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But still Congress did all the stuff and they wrote all the laws and they were like, yeah,
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you go fucking murder those people left and right.
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It's legal for you to do that.
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As far as I am aware, it is illegal for Trump to do this stuff.
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Right?
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Like it is actually illegal.
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That's my understanding.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And if you're murdering people, we would just call that regular murder.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's damn close.
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Right.
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I don't think there's any other way to describe the act of going to somebody's house and then
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killing them without them knowing that they were going to die as anything but a murder.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And apparently, it's the grand version of I could kill someone on Fifth Avenue and get
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away with it.
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Right.
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And drop bombs on people that everyone gets and it's illegal.
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So if you murder one guy, that's bad.
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Sure.
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We all accept that that's bad.
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If you murder like 20 guys, everybody's like, you're a serial killer and you must be stopped.
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And let's make a documentary about how we didn't stop you.
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Right.
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This seems like too many murders.
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It does.
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It does.
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And I think it's going to look very insane in hindsight.
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I think that everyone's behavior is going to be, maybe not everybody, but almost everybody
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is going to be looked at as like, what the fuck was going on?
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And I'm sure we'll all take comfort in some like, hey, look, COVID was crazy.
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Everyone kind of went a little silly after COVID.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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You can't expect people to behave rationally after they've been trapped inside.
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I'm sure that will give a pass to a lot of this.
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Sure.
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But yeah, it's fundamentally insane.
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And Trump was, when he killed Ayatollah and launched that attack.
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He did the Bain thing of Iranians, rise up and take your country.
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That is exactly what he did.
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And in the speech that he gave last night, it was so clear that he was like, hey, look,
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we don't even need the straits of Hormuz.
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All you people who want it, go and take it.
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I don't know.
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We did the hard part.
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We killed a bunch of people.
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You guys just go in and take the take that straight.
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Just do it.
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Yeah.
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There's a part of me that feels like an honest person would say, hey, we can't finish this.
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We started something that we can't finish.
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We realize, hey.
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But instead it's like trying to make it someone else's problem.
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You finish the job.
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I mean, it seems crazy to me how fairly simple it would be.
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And I presume the reason that it's not being done is because people are worried about either
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a revolution or a military coup.
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That has to be the only reason.
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But it seems fairly obvious that if like five senators were like, hey, let's just not do
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this anymore.
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Trump's gone.
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Sorry, Iran.
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We're going to help you rebuild some shit.
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We fucked up.
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Everybody would be fine.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Right.
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You have to be afraid that there's a military coup or that the right wing is going to overthrow
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the government because otherwise there's no reason not to do it.
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It seems to me almost impossible to figure out what the motivations are for things not
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radically changing.
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Yeah.
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The status quo not radically changing.
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It is.
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I mean, I don't know how to describe it.
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I think that the two possibilities that you're talking about, like a military coup or revolution
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Sure.
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I could see those as being fears.
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There's probably other options that I don't understand or know about, but there's something
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that has to be some reason that this isn't stopping.
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There's a thing.
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We have mechanisms for this situation.
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It has been planned out.
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Hey, guys, what if somebody goes crazy on the space shuttle?
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Tie him up.
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Don't let him go around.
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Don't give them the control to the spaceship.
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Mm hmm.
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Damn.
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So I was thinking about this thing that Trump said of like an hangout with losers because
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it makes him feel good.
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Yep.
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Jesus Christ.
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So I just want to play a couple of clips of Alex.
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Oh, fuck me.
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From the past.
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Like in Trump promoting times.
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Yeah, OK.
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We can really just reflect on.
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All right.
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I'll tell you a secret for people I know that know Trump and researching.
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He's extremely OCD.
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He's basically autistic and he doesn't like not seeing people prosperous.
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He doesn't get off on sink or people.
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He doesn't like poverty.
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Trump is.
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I mean, they say Trump's crazy.
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He is completely crazy.
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And then he just.
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Is so positive.
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And that's why anybody that's actually been around Trump picks that up and gets it.
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And so I guess he is crazy.
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Because you know, in a world of psychos and control freaks and folks that want to screw
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people over and think if I'm going to win, you've got to lose to run this man like Trump
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that just wants to totally build the pie and expand everything.
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He's nuts.
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It's true.
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Yeah.
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He just is like he doesn't like poverty.
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He wants you to be rich because he doesn't like poverty.
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Makes sense.
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I do.
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Here's what I'll say about something like that.
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Right.
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I will say that that I don't really blame Alex for.
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Right.
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That's just a regular old lie.
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If you believe that if you're like, well, even though I know everything about rich people
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in the United States has always been exactly one thing, maybe this time it won't be that
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thing.
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I kind of think it's your fault now.
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I think we're we're into the range of like, absolutely.
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He's lying.
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But also, come on, buddy.
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You should know that you can't actually eat a mushroom and grow six feet taller like Super
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Mario.
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Well, that's what they say.
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I see.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Alex said that I could.
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I think that there's a subtle thing that's going on here that's behind the lie, which
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we might be able to interrogate a little bit further.
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If you look back at this and this is like 2018.
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And yeah, if he believed that, this is embarrassing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I don't think that he believed it.
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I think he believed it would work.
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I think he believed in the effectiveness of this and maybe he was able to get himself.
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He worked himself into a shoot a little bit, as they say in wrestling.
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But yeah, on paper, I don't think he believed that stuff.
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I mean, you know, the people can.
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What is it?
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People love the truth.
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If you can fake that, you got it made.
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Something like that.
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So here's another clip of Alex talking about Trump loving everybody succeeding.
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He's gone to the next level.
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You're looking to be 500 years old.
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We'll look back and say old 45.
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He delivered Donald Trump.
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Old 45.
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Trump wants that name.
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He needs to be known as old 45.
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Two different philosophies.
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The parasites don't want you free and empowered because they're scum and don't want to compete.
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But then there's those that want renaissance and want to see everybody flourish and who
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get off on prosperity and success.
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Hey, your wife's super beautiful.
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Wow, you can play great music.
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Wow, you're amazing.
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You're a great writer.
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I don't hate you because of that.
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I admire you.
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You add to the richness of our humanity.
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That's why they hate Trump.
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Trump.
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He's not out to get you.
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He wants you to succeed.
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He's not out to Trump.
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He's not out to get you.
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Then Trump from his own mouth.
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I love hanging out with losers because they make me feel good.
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Because I can comparatively feel like I'm a winner.
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I think that, okay, so there's two things that are going on here.
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One is that Alex has just created this image of what the globalists are, which is that
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they get off on the idea that you're poor and that they're better than you.
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And all Alex has done is imagine that Trump is the opposite.
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So he's created a fictitious character to project onto Trump that is just the opposite
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of what his imaginary villains are.
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So that's going on.
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But Trump allows it.
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And Trump, he makes it possible because he does hate poverty.
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He really does.
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It's just not in a way that he wants to help you escape it.
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Absolutely not.
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He hates poverty in the way that he wants to chase unhoused people off the street.
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He wants to make it harder for you to exist and survive.
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Yeah.
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I imagine exterminating the poor is also hating poorness in its own way.
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You know, like I hate the caste system, but only because I want to destroy all castes
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other than my own is not quite the same thing.
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Right.
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But now here is the other twist.
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Trump likes poor people existing.
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He likes that because it makes him feel rich.
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How could you be rich if there were not poor?
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Exactly.
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That is the conundrum.
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He likes to hang out with losers because they make him feel better.
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He likes the existence of destitute people struggling to get by because that makes his
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life luxurious.
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Yeah.
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Also, he likes sad, pathetic radio hosts who have to lie about how he's not the things
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that he is because he gets to be the things that he is while they have to lie about it.
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That's right.
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That's sad.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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I would want to hang out with those people.
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They would make me feel real cool.
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I would be like, man, at least I'm not that guy.
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Yeah.
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There's a certain amount of this that is, you know, you look at it and be like, how
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could anybody have bought that?
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How could anyone have bought this notion of Trump as populist?
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He wants you to do better because then the free market will be thriving and we'll all
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live to 500 and go to space and we'll all remember old 45.
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I get Alex is a liar and it's a lie.
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It's a lie that he's selling.
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So it makes sense for him to be saying it.
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The idea that anybody could have bought into this is fucking insane.
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You know...
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I think that...
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Believing that Obama would save the world and bring peace to the extent that anybody
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believed that, that's insane.
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Right.
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The Nobel Prize committee.
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But believing that he would do a decent job as president, not insane.
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Very reasonable.
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Very rational.
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He's got a track record.
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We can follow up on his legislation.
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He's probably going to be the same guy.
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Not great.
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Not the worst.
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Yeah.
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That saying that Trump would be a decent president is insane.
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It is truly insane.
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And believing that Trump would bring about space colonies and this kind of shit is equally
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insane.
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Yeah.
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They are the same.
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Yeah.
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It would make the only people who voted right based upon the current situation are the people
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who are like, I think Trump is going to destroy the world.
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Like accelerationists.
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Yeah.
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They nailed it.
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They got it right.
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Yeah.
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I remember a cab driver I had who was expressing that and I was like, well, I guess I can't
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argue with you.
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I mean, if you believe that's going to happen and you want it to happen, I suppose that
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is...
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He brought up supporting Trump and I smelled weed in the car.
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I was like, something's not right here.
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And then he explained that like, yeah, I think that he's the guy who's going to bring this
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shit down the fastest.
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I was like, well, I can't disagree with you.
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I think that that's not a great thing to pursue.
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Maybe.
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Right.
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Dangerous, certainly.
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Can't argue with your premises.
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Sometimes it's an argument I don't want to have, not an argument that I can make.
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So I just think there are some special moments sometimes when Trump is talking and the existence
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of him as a person and who he really is fundamentally punctures an illusion that Alex has worked
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a decade to build up and is crumbling right in front of his face.
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And I think that the extent that anybody...
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No one's going to give Alex a pass and no one's going to be like, oh, great, you're
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against the Iran war now.
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Welcome to the resistance, Alex Jones.
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No one's going to do that.
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But other figures are going to have a little bit more malleability.
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They're going to have a little bit more fluidity.
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And we have to not let that happen.
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We have to be mindful and vigilant of this is the baggage that you will carry for the
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rest of your time.
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You can't be credible.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if we're just going to do one to one Nuremberg trials, Rubio's going up too, my
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man.
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Sorry, buddy.
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Sure.
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There is a real one to one comparison between things people are doing.
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I get that this feels like Iran, but I bet Poland felt like Poland.
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This is not the end.
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We're not done.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there is a feeling that I have that is, ah, shit, it's fucking insane that we've gotten
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to this point.
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But the gift of the present and the gift of being in the time that is current is that
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you have a certain amount of agency.
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So whatever comes down the line isn't inevitable.
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I don't know what to do and I don't know what anybody can do.
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So don't let me sit here and tell you what you should be doing or what anybody should
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be doing.
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But we do live in a time where that doesn't have to happen.
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The next steps don't have to happen.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, I was just thinking, I don't know if this is meaningful at all, but I was just
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thinking about like just the timing of things and where we are, when we are, when things
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happen.
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And it's like, I don't think we would be where we are if Biden hadn't been defending the
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Palestinian genocide.
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Probably not.
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You know, like maybe we'd be in the Palestinian genocide right now.
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It would be happening.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And it's like, it is, it is a question of, am I doing what I should be doing?
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You don't know the result of what you're going to be doing.
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So you can't make a real smart choice of like, well, I know this is going to happen.
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You can make as informed a decision as you can.
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And you gotta, and you have to believe that you're doing what you think is right, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, um, yeah, I don't, it's a, it's a bad, it's a bad, it's a bad vibe.
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It's rough.
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It's rough out there.
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Yeah.
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So we've come to the end of this little mini, mini episode and, uh, I hope you all enjoy
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this, uh, little, little, little taste of Trump loving losers and Alex.
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A little amuse-bouche for what's, uh, what's going to be a more, uh, in depth Monday, I
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imagine.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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We're gonna, we're gonna steamroll right through Alex having a crisis.
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Oh boy.
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Um, so you have that to look forward to, uh, but until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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Yep.
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Uh, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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I love you.
