Transcript/1128: March 17-20, 2006
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hello, how's it going? I'm Dan. I'm sitting here
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I'm coming to your rescue. I'm coming to your rescue right out the gate with that. Hey, hey, hey, hey
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That's a rough start. We're not great improvisers, I think is the point of that opening
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This is thoroughly planned out right Dan? The hey, hey, hey part of it was kind of like my brain
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Missing a beat trying to figure out like is this gonna go before the theme song or am I gonna have to put the theme song in later?
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Right, and I decided in the moment that this is gonna go in
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Cold no theme song just hey, hey. Hey, I mean, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest you with you
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We've we've given criticisms about having production meetings in the past and I I think maybe we are uh hypocritical in that regard
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There's a happy medium that we should strike
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Yeah, it's we have failed it
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Um, so Jordan, I'm on the road. Yes, you are. I am you do not you can see obviously
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I'm in a hotel room somewhere, but you don't know you have no idea where I am
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Well, I mean just judging from the decor of your hotel room I'd say
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First off America and second not the richest place in America. You are right on both counts and we will get to that in a moment
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So what's going on here is that I am taking this road trip and I'm also a lunatic
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And so we had planned that we were going to continue working. I was gonna work from the road we'd established
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you know some ways to do that getting some other equipment and and all that shit, but
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Alex has been out of studio still so even though I'm on the road trying to live live it up
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Go see America
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I'm being annoyed that he's not showing up
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So
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I figured like we're not going to do it. Uh, we're not going to do an episode about Stuart Rhodes
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Hosting or anything like that. We have episodes banked. So we have an old 2006 episode
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Uh that will play after this little intro
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um, but yeah
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It looks it looks bad over there and I can't say that it doesn't feel great to be having a fantastic time
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personally
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While alex is conceivably having the worst time of his life
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It is it is hard for me to conclude anything other than that. He is on a bender right now
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Based upon all of our previous interactions with him up until the point when he has been gone
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Uh, they have been dangerously alcohol induced. It's true
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But I I think the last time I saw him visually
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He was in a room that was suspiciously sterile looking and I was like, well, maybe that's rehab
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Maybe someone could be to a to a dryout center or something or he could be taking out his frustrations
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Dexter style, you know, you never know. Maybe he's maybe he's out finally doing good for once and uh,
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I guess murdering serial killers. I don't remember that show. He's taking out a carpet
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Many many have gone missing, uh for their criticisms of info wars recently leo zagami dead
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Now who's the anti-christ going to be yeah
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So, um, it's I I have much to report, uh from the road jordan, yes, uh, I I think that uh,
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I I I think you you made the truth. You made the the prediction that uh,
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Uh america sure and not very affluent america
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Yes, uh, and I think you're right. I am in terra hote indiana, right? Okay
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All right, the highest the highest earth
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Uh as uh, sure that sounds right. I think that yeah
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I I I know a little bit of french and I think that checks out. Yeah works for me. Um, so yeah, i've i've i've
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I'm leg two
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of uh of my journeys
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um and
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So to give to give everyone a little bit of a uh peek behind the curtain about the plan of this
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Um, I just sat on google maps and looked around
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for places that sounded funny
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and
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So I ended up just scrolling around on the map and I saw a town called aroma hills
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And it dawned on me that I had never smelled aroma hills and if you see the name
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You can't like you can't have an o factory
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Memory of it just by looking at the word, but you feel like you should
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And so I wanted to correct that and I made that the first stop of my trip, right?
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I'm going to ask you a question real quick. I'm going to get i'm going to interrupt you for a second
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Um, do you think it is then necessarily an act of violence for them to name it aroma hill?
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Like without I didn't do anything to deserve this longing to know what a smell of a hill is
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And they've just named it such to give me that feeling that's bullshit. I really think it's an unattended
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Thing like I don't think it's an act of violence. I I think
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I think the effect may be violence, but there's no malice in it like naming it. That is not like it's not hurtful
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Sure. I'm just saying people need to think ahead before they start naming things
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Right someone weird like me might see the town name
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Exactly. And then here we are I think 99 of people who would see that town name would have no second thought
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But for me, it was just like huh?
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I gotta smell that place right and so that was my plan. That was my first stop
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and I came up with some other stops and
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Um
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As I was as I think we mentioned this in the last episode
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I spoke this into reality with my my therapist and friends and then you
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and
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I
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Told my therapist about my plan just to make sure it didn't sound crazy
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And he thought it was a great idea
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Um, and then the next morning he sends me a text
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That there had been a tornado that had hit aroma hills
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So I
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Tell you about this coincidence of like i've never heard of fucking aroma hills
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I tell my therapist my plan is to start a road trip that being the first stop then there's he sees a tornado history
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What is this? Is this a sign of something?
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And you managed to convince me a little bit that it is gene hackian
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Yeah, you have to you must go visit after after this whole situation it is it is something calling to you
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Go chase the tornado it is a metaphor. It's like it's fucking wizard of ozzie and it's not just uh, uh,
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gene hackman
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gene hackman hackman
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Hackmanian hack. I think i'm gonna go with hackman. I think they all work
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So I I got there and um my plan initially was that uh, there's a
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There's I was gonna stay in kankakee which is just outside aroma hills and uh, there's an aroma hills
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Uh, uh like forest preserve and I was gonna wander around there
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I was also gonna see because this this tornado had happened. I was gonna see uh, you know, what was up. Is there anything?
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of course
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That needs assistance. How are they recovering and everything any elderly celebrities that need help?
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I didn't see any
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well
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Maybe next time
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It was surprising to me and granted I didn't poke around and ask too many people but it seemed like there was a phenomenal
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recovery effort underway like
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There was a lot of trees and and branches and stuff, but they were all very organized. Like everything was like it really
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I don't know. You can see things are wrecked and you can see you can see definitely that there is destruction
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I don't want to like gloss over that and minimize it but
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There was another end of it too that it really seemed like people were were helping each other and that was in progress
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and so there was something pretty uplifting about uh,
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about that like you're you're coming into this place and you're not just seeing like
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Oh horror, oh, it's awful. It was kind of there's a the tinge of optimism that came along with it
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The destruction will come but what is powerful about humanity is the rebuilding that comes after
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Yeah, yeah
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But so my biggest plan or point was that I was gonna go to that forest preserve
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And so I'm I'm heading over there. I'm driving. Yeah
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I'm driving. Yeah
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The one thing that I ran into that was like actual pretty like damage that
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Wasn't fixed was that there was a downed power line
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over the entrance to the forest preserve
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There was it was just impassable and
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Looked like it would probably die if you tried to drive over it. Yeah
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Yeah, whether or not you were following the uh, uh precepts of some sort of god or or uh anything right now
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It feels more like a mischievous leprechaun kind of style thing going on here. Like follow me. Oh not too close
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That's where i'm that's where i'm seeing this going
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How could it be that the one like that place is the one place that's basically impassable that I saw in the town
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And it's the one place that I was I was setting out to go
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Uh, so it's like it's like a video game wall, you're not supposed to be able to go there
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Perhaps it'll be unlocked when you level up on the way back
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It's gated content. Yep. Yeah, that's that's a good way to think about it. I don't have the uh, the upgrade
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I don't have my booster shoes
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You gotta you gotta have the shoes to jump the power or rubber shoes to keep from getting electrocuted this all makes sense
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um, so I
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Uh just decided like i'll just go somewhere else and I went to the uh, kankakee river, uh state park and walked around there
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Lovely time had a blast. Uh
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Saw some saw some nature
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stood over the river and and contemplated, uh
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River shit sure
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sure, I found a sign, uh that said that sasquatch was around and then
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He wasn't nah, well i'm fairly certain he's still pacific northwestern
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So if he's on a trip at the same time that you're on a trip now, that's a coincidence
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I don't think he would have had the time to set up that sign that says bigfoot over there
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If he was just passing through like if he's on a road trip, yeah
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I mean, maybe he's maybe he's some sort of johnny bigfoot seed where everywhere he goes
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He puts one of those signs behind him so you know where he was along his journey bigfoot was here
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Yes, or is it or is a geocacher?
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That's possible. Yeah, you never know little flash drives around
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He's got a little google camera and this is for street view
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So that aroma hills was the uh
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Jump off or the the uh, the end of leg one and jump off of leg two. What's your review of aroma hill?
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You know what as a smell
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Nothing really notable. Mmm. I feel like the correct answer was it stinks
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No, it was fine. I think the town was really lovely and I think that the um
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Either something inspiring about people working together to build back from from a natural disaster
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You know, the kankakee river was was lovely
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and uh, I found a
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Beaver den
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I found a little hidden beaver den from poking around
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And I also I was on one trail
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and I I I had a I had this might be a segment for my
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trips by my road, uh reports
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All right is thought that seems profound but probably isn't all right
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I I suspect a jingle in our future
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for the segment
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I saw like a guy coming out of the woods
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Right, and I was not scared of him at all. And I realized that i'm a very panicky
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Um, like scared person generally, okay
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But in the woods in the middle of nowhere if you see someone they're not a threat to you
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Hmm they if someone wants to hurt you
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You're probably not going to see them
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So if you see somebody they clearly don't mind you seeing them
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So don't be scared of them and while you're at it if someone is going to hurt you
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They probably are going to do it in a way that you're never going to see coming. So don't worry about that either probably
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sure
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I suppose maybe wear a paper plate on the back of your head with a set of eyes just in case right?
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Can't hurt can't hurt. Uh, you know like as a as a sort of paranoid, uh jittery person
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it was a it was a nice little like hey, whatever is gonna attack you probably isn't you're never gonna see it and
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Yeah, if you do see people go ahead be be nice to them
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They're probably they can't possibly want to hurt you. Can I pitch you on this? Let me take that back
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Maybe this isn't universalizable
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Let me let me just throw this out there for you and you can you can take it or leave it
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However that you desire but you are and I think we both know this a very hersuit man
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I believe that in a woodsie encounter you perhaps feel more in in your element
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If I was an observer walking in I don't look like i'm supposed to be in the woods
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But you can you've got some lumberjack vibes, do you?
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yeah, there's a privilege certainly to my being a
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a thick man, uh of hair
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A hairy thick man
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Certainly, i'm not someone's first like uh target maybe maybe people in the woods are safe. Look my point is
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I'm trying to be reassuring it turns out the segment's a bust because the profound thing I have totally backtracked on it
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Immediately just by saying it well, I feel like this is a this is a very uh,
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I only have to be faster than you kind of situation, right?
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Like if if you're walking around in the woods
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You only have to be less of a target than somebody who's very easily a target, you know
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So so you should bring someone along absolutely a forest buddy who's like a dud
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I would suggest I would suggest a thin unathletic person to keep with you
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All right, all right
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So I took off from aroma hills and I had a I had a good time. I there was it was nice and
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A lot of what I was looking for
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No complaints
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But then I took off for my second destination
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And i'm about to send you a picture jordan that you can
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Uh, you can i'd like you to describe to the uh to the listeners here i'll do my best
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Oh, man, you know, I find it very interesting
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That uh, we live in a time where you can text me something and I get it instantly. That's kind of fucking weird, right?
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But whatever like that for a while. I know what is that? It is dan
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Giving a thumbs up to a I mean, it looks like it's striped like a tiger, but it's probably it's got to be a mountain lion
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Right. Oh, who has a tiger?
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Oh, this is an illegal tiger. Are you hanging out with an illegal tiger? Is that what's happening?
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Well, we we should take the illegal out of the uh, that is a tiger. All right
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There is a tiger in a cage
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I watched tiger king. So i'm guessing that it's super illegal
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well
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Actually these people uh, the I it's a exotic cat rescue
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Okay in center outside center point illinois, uh, indiana
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Okay, and uh, I may I decided that was the second stop of my my trip because
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I wanted to check it out. I wanted to see I love obviously I love cats and
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I thought it would be really interesting to see uh, these these tigers
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And uh, oh it was yeah. Oh, man. Oh, nice
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They uh, I took a they have a guided tour that they take you on of the facility because the facility itself is
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An active working rescue where they take in
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Cats from you know people who try to illegally own them as pets
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um, I think they actually even did say that they had taken some from
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So they had a couple tiger kings. Yeah. Yeah. They had a couple tiger kings. Yeah, also also
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Animals who are like used in movies and then don't have a home no one can take care of them
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So they have I think he said something to the effect of like 200 something animals that are
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cared for on this uh this refuge
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and
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man
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What a fucking nuts
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Thing yeah, these these cats are huge and you're right next to them like
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I I I was feet away from
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Uh tigers lions
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Yeah
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Five minutes into being there. We're walking down a trail
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And these two lions start growling at each other
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And I can't tell you like how it felt in my chest
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like
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You could feel the vibration
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these were
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You you felt the evolutionary history of
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200 200 000 years of most of the time being terrified of giant cats. Yeah. Yeah
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And I I I don't know if i'm proud that this is exactly my first thought but my first thought was like hey you could eat me
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That's fine. If if this is what's going to kill me, that's fine
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I I had I was at peace with the idea of a
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Then I started to think about like what goes into a line killing me which would be like a lot of tearing
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It would be a real bummer for a while. Yeah. Yeah that part I wasn't cool with but just as a concept
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a lion eating me like
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I mean, I think I think the the don't don't we go into shock, you know
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Like we see the body doing all the screaming and all that stuff
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But because of the way our brains work, they just shut off so you'd probably just die without even knowing
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Well, I mean after you die, you would have no idea
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That it really hurt
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I have no idea and I think a lot of those I always feel like those stories are just meant to reassure us, you know
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Oh, don't worry we're just being reassured. Oh the lions won't eat you don't you don't worry
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You won't feel it. You'll be fine
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Anybody who could refute that is probably dead so there is it is a it is a fairly easy to solve problem, isn't it?
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Yeah
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Yeah, so
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It was it was wonderful. It was a really really
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Great
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Time yeah, they they have foxes and skunks
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The skunks didn't come out of hiding which is probably good because probably freaked them out. Yeah
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um
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but yeah
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I can't
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You know you see animals in the zoo
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and
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they're
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bummed out they seem
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Incredibly miserable. Yeah, and these animals obviously it would be better if they were in nature
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Maybe although natural habitats are eroding and you know under attack
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Yeah, maybe it wouldn't but leaving that aside a lot of them were raised in places
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That make them very difficult to reintegrate into the wild
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And to the extent that they can be they seem pretty happy
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and like
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The tour guide when he was walking around
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He went up to the tiger cages
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And was petting them through the gate like the the fence and like they were rubbing up against the fence affectionately like
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It just reminded me of selene like there were so many behaviors that were just like, okay
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this is a 300 pound murder machine, but it also has the same tendencies as
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my my tabby
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yeah, I mean they there's
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Like okay, there's no consciousness that says they know how large or small they are
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Just cats, you know, like that's why selene if selene was large would just jump on you and in the same
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Same way you would just be crushed. Yeah
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There would be yeah, they're all just cats in the same size, right?
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in a different size
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And that's what the guy was saying too is like
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This this probably they're really sweet and but it'd probably kill you just by accident, right? It would be playing with you
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Yeah, they'd just break its toy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and that kind of was a bummer
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Well, you know here I was here's what i'm thinking right it's a bummer that they're being mistreated right now
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But what's important is that some of them make it through because they'll have their time again
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Humans aren't going to be on top for the rest of time
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So you gotta figure eventually there'll be something that messes us up and then the cats boom right back on top
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I hold on now
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I am not certain that we could ever say there was a time when cats were on top
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I hate the best if I looked at the history the best they've ever had
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Was probably egypt and humans were still on top there. They just worshipped cats sure
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I mean, I don't know maybe they're on top right now. They seem to be doing pretty well for themselves the smaller ones at least
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Absolutely
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They'll grow eventually. Yeah, they've insinuated themselves into our lives to the point where they no longer think them a threat and that's right
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That's a strategy
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Yeah, sure
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Maybe maybe eventually they're they're like goldfishes as we diminish they will expand and then house cats will will become house people
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Will be small little people for their giant that I don't know if I would have stick by that one
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I don't know if that one's gonna work out
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I'm trying carefully
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I don't think i'm gonna let i'll hang with that one
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um, so yeah, I I think you know, it's it's always really difficult to
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You know go to a place and know exactly like is this the coolest thing?
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but I I definitely got the sense that uh
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I I was glad that they were doing the work that they're doing and taking care of those animals and like it seemed it seemed like
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a pretty
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Positive thing all around everyone was really nice. Um
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And uh, yeah, just just a hoot just a hoot just a hoot. Well, that's fantastic
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No, hey, well, I mean maybe there were at one point in time
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But then you know, I imagine large cats don't truck with that
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No, and they can hang up in trees high enough to handle the business, you know, we have propaganda films
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Uh that tell us like tigger can hang out with owl
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Right and that's not true
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Well, I believe I watched I watched the staircase and I believe that there was an owl murder in that or potentially so, uh
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Not with a cat that was just a human. That's true. That's true. Just just a human
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So this guy who's given me the tour now, I had a moment that like fucking blew my mind
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so, uh, we're we're like three quarters of the way through the tour or so and
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Uh, he was an awesome older dude
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Jim bakery in in some ways physically but not not like as a character or a person
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um
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But he he was uh, he's talking to me about like telling me the stories of these cats and uh, it's just a blast
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Uh, he's been like in the cat game or taking care of cats since the 60s and yeah
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um
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we get to
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uh where
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Our path is going one way
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And then the people feeding the cats are going the other way. Okay, so we're gonna intersect
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Right, we happen to intersect just after they've fed a leopard
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an old leopard and
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When I say old, I mean, it's still it's like a big ass leopard that looks scary as shit. Sure. Um
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one of the people who's in the feeding group is like
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She needs to take her meds
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And so he my tour guide gets a chunk of meat that has the meds yeah goes in the cage
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Ends up
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Trying to give the meat to the leopard right who has retreated inside his little nook
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so now he's gone into the nook and is basically
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Inside a clubhouse a little tiny clubhouse with the leopard giving it the meat with the medicine on it
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Yeah, I think he knows what he's doing. He's responsible. He's not taking any
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Like real dangers. I'm not worried sure then his phone rings
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And i'm thinking
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My heart would stop if i'm this guy and i'm in an enclosed space with a leopard and my phone rings
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He's totally chill about it. Yeah take takes the call
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Yeah
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Well, I mean, you know, it's not like going to the gorilla cage in the zoo or anything like that
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He's just known this cat for probably its whole life. This cat and him are probably buds
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Yeah, and and I get that the cat's old too. So like maybe that factors into it
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But like it just you still get it to be scared of the instincts that it might have
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I
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I I trusted like that. He knew what he was doing
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but at the same time there was a split second of me thinking like
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Wrong day wrong day for me to visit. No, no, no, no
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Yeah, you know i'll say this anybody who's done something for 60 years anytime i've i've interacted somebody with that amount of experience
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i've seen them do things that I would describe as extremely dangerous with a lot of uh,
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Laissez-faire kind of vibes about them
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So, you know, he's he's been doing it for a long time
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If if he were scared or if there was going to be a problem, he probably would already be dead by now, right?
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Yeah, but that day has to come, you know, like you say that like he would be dead already
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At one point that day happened, you know, like I agree with you
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almost 100 percent that like
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People who have been doing things for a long time you see them do reckless shit and they get away with it
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But they also you also like it
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Yeah, luck runs out and I I was so scared that I was there like at the moment that luck ran out
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And a leopard was going to attack and I the fact that it didn't was
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You do you become a cat rescue shelter because you want to die sleeping in your bed
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No, my friend at the end of your days you want to feed those cats with what's left of you
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He's he's lived a long life. He's ready to make the future happen for the next generation of cats and cat people
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Feed me to the feed me to the lions. He says
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He's 85
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I hey you got to go
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You're gonna go sooner or later. There's nothing there's nothing you can do about that. There's something kind of beautiful about it
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Yeah, drink me up and feed me to the cats
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We did finish the tour so he I left him quite alive still still alive good. That's good news. That's good news
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Yeah, yeah, but just um, what that was a great it was a great. Um,
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You know, I think that
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Aroma hills obviously was blocked off that forest preserve but the river was still great
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But as a like an idea of this being one of the stops i'm so glad I went to that
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I'm, so glad that's there
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I I take it you're enjoying this a great deal more than any sort of tourism
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Kind of thing like, uh, you know, obviously my wife and I we've gone to other countries and we've done like
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Ziplining and shit like that where there's a tour group where there's lines of people i'm assuming that this is much more your style
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Yeah, definitely like i'm i'm uh, I I one of the things i'm finding I really enjoy is like driving on country roads
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like just that is because that that shit is there all the time and we
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it's just out of out of sight out of mind, but it's so calm and peaceful and like
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just
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You know it
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We are a part of nature
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Right. All right. Now that is a profound thought that may be on further reflection
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Hey, let's get the jingle
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No, but we're a part of nature and a certain amount of agriculture is is a product of our nature
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Developing and so it still is it still feels like part
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It's not as it's not as wild and untouched as like the woods or whatever, but it still feels like
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outside of maybe like big agra or something like, you know, obviously a giant factory farm or something isn't gonna
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Scratch the same little place, but sure
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But uh, you know some of these country roads you see
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Crops and stuff and like it's it's very calming in a strange in a strange way. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that
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How do you feel? How do you feel about being gone? You've been gone for a few days. Are you are you thinking ah
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Maybe i'm i'm missing home or are you just ready to see the open road in front of you?
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Well, it's it's a you know, it's a mixed bag a little bit I think I miss uh, I miss you and I miss
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Celine
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miss uh
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This uh, we're coming up on
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Oh, it's wednesday today. Uh missing i'm gonna miss movie time with uh, angela lamps berry. That's true. That's true
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And so people I miss people some
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And I count celine as a person strangely, but like I don't
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I don't miss
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chicago
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At all
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I believe you I don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with it. I don't hate it or anything
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but i'm not eager to get back to
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um
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Like a city environment. Yeah, I don't I don't know what that's gonna manifest into but uh,
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yeah, I I um
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Just to up like fill in people who haven't jordan and i've talked about this privately
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But my plan was there's three stops that i'm gonna make and then re-evaluate along the way
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Whether or not I was gonna keep going and just keep exploring and see what I find
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Um, and at this point I do feel like i'm gonna go further
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Okay
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All right. I think yeah, I think i'm definitely
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I found a fourth stop that I think would be fun
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So there's at least that so
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We're we're recording in the morning on wednesday and i'm about to take off on leg three
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And I believe there will be a leg four at this point
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Wow
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That's that's good to hear i'm excited by that. There's you know, there's always the concern that maybe
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Uh one wants something in idea and then in practice very much not the case
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Which can be disappointing
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Or there can just be the like, uh a little bit more fear than you were expecting and that can draw you back
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And that's disappointing but that you're ready to spread those wings and move on to another stop. That's exciting
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It is it is and i'm um
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Yeah, yeah i'm cognizant of the fact that uh, I need to be aware that I have to get back
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So like, you know as much as i'm like, hey a fourth leg would be great
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I'm also like well, okay, then that also means you're committing to it taking longer to get back, right?
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But that's okay. I think that's okay. I i'm that my head space is is there for that
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and uh, yeah, I don't i'm not sure i'm not sure I like that i'm not sure
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Yeah
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I wonder if anyone ever would have swum across the channel
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Uh if they had to swim to get back
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You know what? I mean?
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Like you if you got to do it once that's an achievement but knowing you got to swim to on the
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Whole thing on the way back. Nah, that's that's too much
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Are you talking talking like at the beginning of the beach?
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Yeah
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Richard etienne and françois have to swim to the beach. Yeah, exactly that kind of thing
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You you're gonna tire yourself out. So you gotta you gotta make sure that you plan for uh, the appropriate travel time
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It's kind of appropriate because i'm uh on the on a travel thing here, but I did read the beach
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Recently, and then I watched the movie the other night. Uh, and uh, i'm mad at the movie
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We don't have to get into it, but i'm mad at the movie
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It's just driving through the woods angry at the beach
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This isn't is this your fault whose fault is this whose fault is this I like his work I like 28 days later so much
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And that was him and garland and garland wrote the beat. What the hell what happened?
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All right, you've had two experiences now
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Without telling us what your next experience is planned to be
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How about tell me what your hope for the next experience is you've you've had the the sniff of a of a post tornado
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Uh, uh rebuilding project you you've seen giant cats
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You've met people who care for them in the woods just neglecting all forms of uh, society to to care for animals
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That cannot care for themselves. All right, come on i'm exaggerating it. This is a this is a show. Okay for god's sakes
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So tell me what experience you want on the next leg
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well, the next the next leg without giving away anything because I uh,
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The element of surprise is important for you. Of course. Um
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I think it's just stupid. I hope it's stupid
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That that's the what i'm looking i'm looking so you're headed to an applebee's
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Uh might as well honestly, I mean like it's it's not that but
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I think it'll be stupid and then that's
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What i'm looking forward to um, but also actually I had a third experience. Okay, we didn't get to all right
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um, I took that tour of the uh, the cat park
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in the early afternoon yesterday
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And then I I had time
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You know that I could have I could have done stuff, uh, I was thinking about going to another forest preserve or something
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um
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But then I realized that i'm i'm in terra hote
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Right sure
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You know what's in terra hote?
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Absolutely not
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There's a casino
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Oh, okay
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All right, you gambled. Yeah. All right. I decided that
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The way that I would put it is this trip is
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It's not all just like me trying to descend into like a primitive nature form of myself
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it's
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Expressing and following things that I really like and have liked and things that like connect with my heart in some way
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And you know the woods is that big ass cats is that
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Trying to smell a city is that because it's fucking dumb, right?
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And like poker is something that I
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Fucking loved when I was younger great in college days me and nikki gifts would go out to the bars
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They'd bar poker during the poker boom
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And we would play like two three nights a week. Sometimes we would be out at the at the bars
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We'd run into the same people who like we had strong opinions of even though they were strangers
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So very important chris moneymaker was to the to the poker community in that time period this is a little after money maker
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But he kicked it off. He kicked it off. Yep. This is around the time of like the magician antonio and esfandiari
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And the magician poker daniel mcgrann
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah phil helmut the bad boy of I don't know what he does him and mike madaso
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Would yell at each other all the time the bad boys
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I would give anything to not remember these names
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There are so many important things that are gone inside my brain yet somehow fucking phil helmut lives up there
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Yeah, jennifer tilly would show up and play
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Really great in the nice guy
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Huck seed that was another guy phil ivy man. I remember all of these fucking poker players. Yep
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I don't know why I don't know why there was a time
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Um
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So I I went to the terra hote casino
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And they had they have a poker room
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and uh just playing some poker and uh, I didn't I I
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I lost I didn't lose a lot
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I lost even half of the amount that I had set aside as like this is the fun money for like a night at the
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Casino right so I left I left before I had even
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Lost the the nut or whatever because I just I I bought in for half of what I
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like would accept losing
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And sat at the table and like the people were just really nice
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Like some of them were friends and clearly had like a poker scene
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they were very welcoming and it like it wasn't a uh, like
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Sharky kind of situation where people were trying to like gun for each other
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It felt like obviously you want to win pots and you want to win
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Money, but like poker. Yeah, it also felt kind of like a house game
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Yeah, where people are it's you do want to just see some cards sometimes. Sure. Absolutely
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Let's play this bad hand just to see if the luck hits why not?
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yeah, as much as like, you know, I don't know who any of these people are they're in a
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Casino in in terra hote indiana on a tuesday night
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uh, so who knows but
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it just seemed like
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They all they all
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Were nice
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And that was nice
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Nice, I didn't I didn't sit down and be like I fucking hate this guy
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There wasn't one person at the table who i'm like god, I wish they weren't there. It was just all pleasant like
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as a facsimile of a social
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Thing like I know it's not real. None of us will probably ever see each other again, right?
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Except them they will see each other. Sure. They'll be there on tuesday for a long time to come. Yeah
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For me, they you know, they welcomed me in graciously and and we joked around and like it was
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It was a lot of fun. It was uh
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it it did scratch an itch and uh,
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I lost my last hand and
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I was
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Totally fine with it and happy and you know, hey fun playing with you guys. Thanks for letting me and took off and you know, like
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I I just
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I like, you know, it points something out to me what i'm hearing what i'm hearing from you is that based on this trip
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Uh, it's something that we never remember. It's something that we keep away from ourselves is that it takes a lot of work
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To get people on reality tv who will behave like assholes it takes an algorithm it takes an entire corporation
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Funneling assholes on social media to get those assholes there
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Most people the massive majority of people are one exactly like you and you're really nice
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So so are they and I think I think that um, the other thing too about that
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Is that I think that every not everybody but most people want to have fun
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Yeah, and I we're all gonna die have fun. And I think that a lot of people are not
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Like they they feel like it's not safe to have fun with other people and they keep a guard up
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And I think that that it gets in the way of people being able to have fun. Sure
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Uh, this is another profound thought that probably isn't profound
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Which will be the theme of this uh this road trip, you know, if you read eat pray love now you're like, yeah
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Yeah, I got it. Yeah traveling. It's fun
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It is but it's not just the traveling of it, but it is there is something about it sure
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um
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so yeah, I uh, I took off and I I
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You know
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Um went home. Yeah went back to the back to the hotel
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Conch I I don't think i've ever been to a uh casino and not drank
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Right or not stayed way too long and there was something
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very nice about
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Being able to walk out at like 10 30 and be like I had a very pleasant time
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I lost a little bit of money, but I had a very pleasant time with some strangers
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and I could I can uh, I could
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I could be fine with that
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I remember being young looking at older people doing stuff like that thinking ah those idiots
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They don't even know how to fun have fun anymore now. It is a delight
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It is the most fun thing in the world to be
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home safe without any kind of problems
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Yeah, or to just have uh, you know, you don't need an extreme experience just have an experience
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I have a pleasant time. Yeah. Yeah, so that's kind of you know looping back to your question. That's kind of what i'm hoping
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Whatever this uh this third, uh leg. I hope it's stupid. But I also hope you know, I hope it's pleasant. I hope it's uh,
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I think I think we're all wishing uh that it continues to be pleasant for you
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I think we're all excited uh that you are doing this
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I think this is kind of a a big step for you and it you know, the future is uncertain
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The future is uncertain so this could be something that helps propel you forward
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Sure, and I wanted to address one thing. I did see one comment that I thought was really a good point
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And that is dan chose the exact wrong time to do this with the you know, like gas prices and stuff, right?
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Yeah, and and I would like to say
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Correct. However
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Part of my calculation was that there's such an uncertainty
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Uh with the way the world looks right now that six months from now, I think I might not be able to do this period
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Right, whereas now it's a burden and it's more expensive than it would be
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Like in normal times, but maybe I couldn't do this later
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And I would kick myself if I if I didn't
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Uh when I had an an opportunity even if it's a pain
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Now that's something that actually is profound. Thank you. Yes
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I have more I have more deep thoughts that I will ruminate on my drive to destination three
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Excellent, but we will uh, yeah, we'll we'll we'll check in i'll send you some
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Uh dumb pictures, of course
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and um, yeah, i'll post those pictures with a tiger too because people deserve to see that wonderful, uh,
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but uh jordan
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So lovely to see you always pleasant. I've been missing you. I'm glad to see you
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Enjoying yourself. Oh, come on. You're traveling you're gone. Come on. We do what we do. Sure. Yeah. Um
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Now people get to enjoy uh an episode of our show, uh covering uh some time from 2006
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Uh, so enjoy that and uh, we'll check back in with you from the road
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See if alex is dead
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Yeah
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It's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge, right
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge
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dan and jordan knowledge fight
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Huh
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It's time to pray andy and tanzas you're on the air thanks for holding
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I'm a huge fan. I love your room knowledge fight
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Knowledge fight.com
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I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to another trade. I'm, dan
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I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan
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Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is you know what it's March
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So I'm going for a small block tradition. Yep
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Enough with a survivor right? I mean like we talked about survivor too much. You've you've hit the you've hit the beat a few times
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Yeah, we're like we're like five or six more before rake effect kicks back in yeah
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I don't want to I don't want to get there
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Maybe I'll bring it back up down the road
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But I just don't have enough thoughts about it honestly not a bad idea and I did have a bright spot that is worth sharing
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Okay, and that is I got a pack of Nutella ice cream cones. Okay, you can get them at local grocers
Unknown Speaker (00:46:52.880)
Groceries are sold I got them and I was very worried. Yes. I've seen Nutella used in other applications
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Sometimes it just doesn't incorrectly. Yeah, this hit so hard nice. It was really good
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Yeah, the texture and the flavor of Nutella blended well with the vanilla ice cream
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Yeah, solid solid eight and a half to nine out of ten
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Hey, it's very good dang and I want to go buy another box. Damn. So
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Good stuff. That is it. That is a bright spot
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I ate two when I opened the box because I was like this right away. Well turn
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Another chomp chomp chomp. That's the stuff. You know, it's good whenever you're like, well, I think I'm gonna have to do that
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Exactly now I shouldn't but I must try another to make sure it's as good as I think it is
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Absolutely, and it stood up to scrutiny. It's uh, it's like how Douglas Adams described drinking
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You know like you send the second one down to check and see how the first one's doing and before they get there
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You got to send a third down to go after both of them. I could have had a third one. I probably I
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stopped myself
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But I could have
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Anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is I well, I'll finish up with my world baseball classic crack of the bat
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The old the old Mighty Ducks won
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So Venezuela defeated the United States
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Championship game ironic fantastic. It was a really great game is great for baseball free Maduro
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That's what I'm saying
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The Mighty Ducks won like it doesn't get more Mighty Ducks than that like if I would I'm not rooting for the u.s
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Over Venezuela, I'm rooting for Venezuela fucking if you're rooting for Iceland in the Mighty Ducks, too
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You're insane. It is a very funny
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Underdog kind of story given the world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
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It could only have been better if it was Iran like it would have been there Wow
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If Iran wins the World Cup in Mexico, you know as opposed to not being allowed to play because Trump threatened them
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It was it close. Oh, yeah, three to two
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Almost Bryce Harper almost wanted in the eighth hit a two-run home run two to one then in the ninth
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They Venezuela pulled it off. He's awesome. It was a great game
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You kind of get the feeling that they could have won if Shohei wasn't playing for Japan
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Uh
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Do who Venezuela beat Japan? No, if he was on Team America. Oh, yeah
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Yeah, yeah, well, I mean but it's what's great about it is that it's for baseball baseball is a dumb game
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It doesn't make sense. So it doesn't matter if you're the best team
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It's so fucking random that it has very little effect on what you know
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The best team in this season in the of all the year right will probably win about 60 to 65 percent of their games
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That's not that much
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No, right. Well as Tori hunter once said it's a very hard game
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It's a very hard game gotta hit the ball and then get it past like nine dudes. There's so many guys
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Yeah, it's a dumb game. Yeah, but but it is but it is our dumb game, right?
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And so what's great about it right is even though you have the four or five best hitters on the planet on one team
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Right, even they're the best hitters on the planet still only hit the ball about once every three times
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So statistically it is just as likely for them to all go
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Oh for three as it is for them to go two for three or three four, you know what I'm saying?
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It's one of the like it makes the what the the argument that you're making is
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It makes me feel like this is one of the only places where a series of games
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Really makes absolutely necessary. Yeah, absolutely
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Basketball and football like football doesn't they just have one game. Yeah, and that's that feels right
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Yeah, basketball probably doesn't need a series either probably not but yeah the stats
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Just have no idea who's gonna win on any given day
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Like one of them that's why the WBC is so great because everybody only gets one game. It's almost completely random
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at the last one in 2023
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Like the guy played again this year there's a guy for who plays for Chet for the check team
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Right, and he's like, I don't know just a part-time guy like he's borderline a plumber, right?
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He's an electrician. I think that's his actual job but borders on a boarders
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It's basically the same thing
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But yeah, he's he throws 80 and in 2023 he struck out show to show hey
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Right, like he's he's gonna take that with him for the rest of his life
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He struck out the best baseball player on the planet. Mm-hmm, right, but that's also because
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Baseball is so fucking random. You might just strike out the best player on the planet on accident. Yeah, it's just it's gonna happen
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It's so weird. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I'm glad you had a good time and I'm glad the Cinderella story. Yep
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Played out good
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You're coming you're coming home
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Come on like I want to live in a crazy world. Yeah, so like we're already mostly there
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Yeah, let's just let Trump say. All right, you won you get you get him back. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
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Absolutely, if we we could definitely like people used to solve wars with the one-on-one
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We could just switch to baseball in a heartbeat
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I think that if Trump released Maduro because Venezuela beat us in the world baseball classic
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It would fuck with the world's headspace in a way. That would be more damaging than if he executed me
Unknown Speaker (00:52:25.880)
I think you're right. I think that would escalate the the like anything is possible quotient to add to infinite
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Yeah, you just don't know what could happen
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It would be like my strategy that I came up with if I was a football coach to I would sometimes punt on second down
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Yeah, yeah, just to confuse people. You'll never know. No, you'll never know
Unknown Speaker (00:52:44.980)
Maybe I'll give you your dictator back you might I might I might take the caper horn
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I might just take it now. I have it because you guys beat us at baseball. Uh-huh. I don't know why I might give you
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New England. Yeah, I don't want it. Yeah, it's yours Spain. People don't like me
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So
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Jordan today, we have an episode to go over. All right, we're gonna be in the past
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Okay, we're gonna be talking about some of Alex's past doings. Okay, we're gonna be talking about March 17th to 20th
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Mm-hmm 2006 Friday to Monday and
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Before we get to that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea
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So first Leah Obie baby Quinn and Dixie the cat. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much. Thank you
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Next Daniel Agan is writing books about queers potheads villains and a queer political
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And queer pothead villains. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much
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Thank you and to my angelic Chris
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You are the best non-binary partner a late blooming trans girl could ask for and I'm sorry
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I made you think we were heteronormative for the last 20 years
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Our time together has been the brightest spot
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Anyone could ask for and I look forward to our evolving future together forever and ever and always your favorite Pokemon Eevee
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Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much
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Thank you, and we get to take a look right in the mix Jordan
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So thank you so much to my last name is Jones and I tell people I'm related to Alex Jones mark
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You know, it's true. Thank you so much. You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar-jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby
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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much
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So on our last episode we listened to 316 Stone Cold Austin day in the past
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Stone Cold Steve Austin day in the past Wow Stone Cold Steve occupied Austin, Texas
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Day, all right, whatever. Yeah. Anyway, it was a lot of fun. Yes, and so here we are on the 17th
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Yeah, and Alex starts the show and I'm like you should quit
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Welcome my friends. This is 17th day of March
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2006 on this
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Live Friday
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Edition and we're gonna have open phones today wide open phones with a full three hours any news issue any item any story?
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Any solutions you wish to discuss any questions any comments you disagree with me? Whatever whatever
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Angry this is this is uh
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This is of what Andy this is Andy Daily Show, isn't it? This is it today
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We're gonna be talking about going outside and we're not going outside. Do you want to talk about going inside?
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What do you want to talk about? We're here to talk about it. Yeah, but it doesn't it's not as electric
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No, it doesn't feel as excited. No
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Yeah, Andy's Andy's character is excited about whether or not you want to go inside or outside. Yes
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He is Alex is like we take your calls your solutions. What I wish we had something else to do
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Yeah, it feels dead on Friday. Yep. So he spent some of his time before getting to calls
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Ranting about how the economy and the stock market and all that shit is fake. So everything's fake. It's fake the Chicago Mercantile is fake
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Much of the New York Stock Exchange is fake
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It's a joke
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Almost our entire world now is a hoax
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What we're told what goes on. It's just most of it is a hoax
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And an example of this is Bush we now learn a couple weeks ago signed a spending bill
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that was hundreds of billions of dollars and
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Two billion of it that he wanted was not passed
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and so he just went and got an earlier version of the bill that ever passed and
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Signed that and we've now learned that he was told that it sir. You're signing a bill that wasn't passed
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Speaker of the house told him this in a letter. They just signed it. No, and we're so done
Unknown Speaker (00:56:52.960)
They can take two billion bucks right in front of everybody and she's all too brilliant. That's what they do
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So so now the stealing now the looting now the the the craziness
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Has gotten so?
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Wild that I can't even imagine what's gonna be next
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I mean, this is a great illustration of why you can't really just rely on Alex for information
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He's not interested in actually conveying what's real. He just builds up stories
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This is day two of him covering this story about Bush signing the Deficit Reconciliation Act of 2005
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And at the start of the show he claimed that he looked into this and even called Congress for comment
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He's acting like he's done a lot of original reporting and legwork that's backing up this coverage
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But he still has a very basic detail of the story wrong
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This isn't about Bush signing a bill that has two billion dollars more in pork that he gets to steal
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It's about Bush signing a bill that has two billion dollars less in Medicare funding than the version of the bill that Democratic
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Representative Henry Waxman believed they were passing at this point in 2006. There really isn't even a story
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It's just a letter that Waxman has written raising this complaint
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engaging with this story within the bounds of reality would require Alex to argue that Medicare should get two billion dollars more in funding which
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He can't do
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Bush signing a bill that didn't pass Congress is too exciting a headline to ignore
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So in order to cover this he has to create a fake version of the story to entertain the audience
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Which is what he's doing and it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, I think it's nice to start everything with like it's a hoax
Unknown Speaker (00:58:30.940)
Mm-hmm, and then have a then have a take like I feel like you can't do that
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If you start with three things are hoaxes
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Then either you have to go into why they're hoaxes or just be like and so is everything else who fucking cares
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Everything is a hoax except the two billion dollars that rush sigh what that's a hoax to
Unknown Speaker (00:58:48.800)
That's free from the Chicago Mercantile. It's a that completely different that two billion completely unrelated
Unknown Speaker (00:58:54.860)
Hey, buddy, take a hit of this and let me blow your mind about how money's a hoax. It's a hoax what?
Unknown Speaker (00:59:01.139)
fuck
Unknown Speaker (00:59:03.139)
But it's tied to the gold standard right golds a hoax
Unknown Speaker (00:59:07.199)
Oh wait, it's gold hoax. No, no, I'm gonna go audit for Knox though. I think that would be
Unknown Speaker (00:59:13.719)
Is any gold even real anymore? I don't know. Did they just vaporize all the gold secretly while we weren't paying attention
Unknown Speaker (00:59:22.139)
Okay
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Don't answer that like that was a legitimate question
Unknown Speaker (00:59:28.639)
Vaporize all the gold. I wasn't gonna answer your question directly, but I did get lost in thought
Unknown Speaker (00:59:34.300)
Thinking about how I don't think I've ever touched gold like I probably have at some point
Unknown Speaker (00:59:40.460)
Well, I mean I sing or whatever sure like I've never I've never held a gold coin
Unknown Speaker (00:59:45.739)
I've never really never held a gold coin. I don't think so really you have
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Rich I mean, I think I think I've I think here's what I think happened. I think I
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Felt no, I guess I mean it was like a $10 little gold bar, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:00:01.360)
But that's probably just like a little
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Lead with gold wrapped around it right maybe you know, so it's I didn't really touch a gold bar
Unknown Speaker (01:00:09.420)
I know it's like one of those little things. I have experience with the chocolate coins that yeah, I have experience with Fool's gold
Unknown Speaker (01:00:15.639)
Yeah, I know that
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But yeah, I can't think of any time I've engaged because I you know, we I watch the traders sure
Unknown Speaker (01:00:22.139)
I've never seen that no, I've never seen
Unknown Speaker (01:00:24.719)
I've never seen anything. It does it does make you question whether or not they're real. I'm saying maybe they did vaporize it
Unknown Speaker (01:00:31.119)
No, I've never seen one in person. Yeah
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so
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money hoax
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obviously, yep, but
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Alex deals with there's some calls and a topic comes up of
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Countries wanting to pay for oil in different currencies right dollars. Yeah
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And they were making making that something about in order for countries to purchase oil and
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The Arab states they have to pay 40% of it in the euro. Have you heard anything about that? Yes, they are moving
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to a euro
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Controlled
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Petro dollar and a lot of other of the Arab countries are also dumping some of their cash reserves and
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moving them part of their reserves
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Into the euro Iran is moving entirely into the European Union
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Domination
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All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. I appreciate the call
Unknown Speaker (01:01:31.840)
So it is true that some countries like Iran and Russia have requested the countries purchasing their oil pay for it in euros
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This isn't really an attack on the dollar
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It's it's not some kind of threat to the status of the dollar as the currency that's tied to oil
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It's a reflection of the US sanctions against these countries and their desire to get paid in an unsanctioned currency
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Alex is reporting the idea of Iran wanting to be paid in euros as a piece of a
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Conspiracy where the euro is meant to replace the dollar
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But in reality Iran would prefer to use dollars if we didn't have them under heavy sanctions
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The EU is more reliant on oil imports from Iran and Russia
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So they can't afford to fully cut off and sanction those industries while US banks have frozen accounts that would be involved in these companies
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taking payment and dollars and converting that to the local currency or
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Investing it in other stuff that uses the dollar. Yeah. Yeah. It's a hassle with the US sanctions
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It costs money to launder money
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It there is a threat to the US dollar status as the currency that most of the world's economies use for trade
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But it's not oil producing countries accepting payments in other currencies
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It's the possibility that enough powerful economies could get together and form a new currency system that
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Sidesteps the dollar because the benefit of basing their economic transactions on the dollar is outweighed by the
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volatility and other downsides that we present
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The guy that Alex helped get elected in the present day is going far out of his way to make this more likely
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Because even you know the BRICS countries and shit. Yeah
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They understand that world economies work easier if the dollar is a go-between
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for like taking one currency and
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Converting it to the dollar and then converting to another one as opposed to going from A to C. Yeah
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It's just easier. It just is based on how we have everything set up
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Yeah, and they wouldn't they wouldn't upset that balance and unless there was a reason to like that middle point is gonna fall apart
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Yeah, yeah, and if I'm if I'm the other countries, right and I'm looking at the United States
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I'm going woof. This is rough now, and then I'm thinking maybe they maybe they put it back together
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Maybe they get their system back together. They they figure stuff out. They got that but I still know that they got another Trump in them
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There's not it's not like they got rid of all the Trump's there's another there's another Trump somewhere
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And if I'm seeing that I'm seeing that as a risk
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Yeah, every country has a Trump in them right and a potential for that, right?
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it's just we need reassurances and and stability to make sure that Trump can't
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Destroy that currency. Yeah, I'm just saying I would prefer to I would be like, hey, I'll work with these other people
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Yeah, yeah, and that could be part of a new world order that Alex is interested in
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Whoa, a new new world order new new. Okay, but not the old new world not the old. Okay, or the old old
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Oh, right. Oh, wait, which one's the new old one? That was the new one. The new world order is now the new old
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Yes, and also the old new right it's the new old and old man those those adjectives yuck
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So Alex takes calls and he gets a call from a guy that he knows like someone who calls in and bothers him a lot
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And they argue and Alex gets mad at him. Yeah, and then hangs up on him
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then Alex gets a call from somebody who reassures him and makes him feel better and
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Alex is like hey
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That guy who I don't like you should call back in and argue with this nice color
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So that plays out. I like that
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I don't have any clips of it because it's just fucking dumb and it goes way too fucking hard
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It does but yeah, Alex is like I've got backup now call back in I dare you that's so funny
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And then the two callers yell at each other for a bit
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And then they that ends and Alex is a bit depressed
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He just isn't kind of a bummed out state. Yeah, I think you just doing a call-in show and then his
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Call-in big fight happens. And now he's in kind of a post coitus call-in. Yeah, the serotonin is gone
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Yeah, and so we end up with a call like this
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Is there is there any way I can get a signed picture of you I can call for my wall
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You know, we don't really have any of the classical glamour shots or publicity shots that most talk show hosts have
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There are a whole bunch of free photos of me all over the web
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so print out the one you like and
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Hang on the wall
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And if you want something signed from me, that's what I would really like
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Well, the problem is you know, I sell my signature and not because I even want the money
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It's just that it by offer. I want the head. I'm not trying to brag
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I want the money signing thousand that week and it would really be impossible getting work done
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It's already annoying that and I like it, but I've run out of time
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I got all this serious stuff that I'm sitting there signing my book to send to tyranny
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If you get it to send it to any sir, I'll sign it. Okay, and I
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I'd like to tell you if you you know, if you mailed me a
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Citizen rule book and asked me to shine it I might do it
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But then I'm gonna get a bunch of requests to for people that order citizen rule books that I sign those
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And I just really it's not a good
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It's not the best way to spend my time. Just send the guy an autograph. He's on his deathbed
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Listen to this guy it could not it could not hurt you
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You're just going into this whole spiel hurts you more than just being like yeah, probably but what is the precedent?
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I set by sending you an autograph. Okay, don't need one next time say no this time say yes move on with your life
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Just send him a signed picture a couple bucks. Maybe I'll sign a dollar for you if he wants to say
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I see it. You know what get me get me an envelope put print out that picture
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I'll sign that picture and send it right back to you. You do 99% of the work and I'll sign it
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You know, let's flip this Alex. I want to send you an autograph picture of me
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How much does that cost hmm, yeah, so that's that was just kind of sad yeah anyway this show
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So this is a disaster this episode. No good. It's Friday. He wants to go home. He's taking calls, whatever
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Yeah, you know gets gets it gets the two callers to fight each other for fun. Yeah kind of boring and a dud
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Yeah, and so we're not we're done with Friday. Yeah, we're taking a weekend
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there's something there's something quaint and beautiful about the
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Radio show where the guy knows the callers because it's not big enough yet, but it is still pretty big
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You know, there's something beautiful about that. Yeah, well, you know some of them. Yeah, it is annoyed by some right?
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That's great. But the problem there is if it were good radio, it would stay that way, but it doesn't yeah, I think that
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You know what you're talking about is exactly right? Yeah like that vibe and that energy of hey, I know this guy
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I'm pissed off by him. That's what I want to hear. I want I would I would OD on that
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You know Alex was providing it. Yep. It's just it in
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Practice whatever mood he's in and however, it struck on this episode is
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No good, just not the way it works, but maybe another day that who knows so we come back from the weekend
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Yeah show up on Monday, right and there's big news over over at infowars
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Now after the break here in a minute or two, we're gonna come back and talk to Charlie Sheen
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for the full hour for the rest of the hour and
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He's been in over 65 major motion pictures has a couple more coming out this year. Of course
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He's the star the the biggest star on
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one of CBS's hit shows and that's two and a half men and
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Charlie and I've had a chance to talk some in the last week or so and he's just got a few issues a few questions
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He wants to bring up
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Concerning 9-eleven and what's happening here in America?
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So believe me you're not going to want to miss the interview. So we was this this episode
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No, we've talked about Charlie Sheen being on the show before. Yeah, that was we talked about when he destroyed his career, right?
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That's not this one that's not this one no, oh my god 2011. Okay. This is in 2006
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I was I was about to freak out. I was like, holy shit. No, this is one
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This is just after Alex met Charlie
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Yeah, they talked on the phone before this and that was they'd never met before that why it's very clear
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Yeah, they're just getting to know each other. Why oh, you know, it's weird about that
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There's one coincidence about that right on the way here
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I was walking and I was like
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I wonder if everybody's gotten over the Kanye and he's like apologized for being bipolar yet has he as
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Kanye or is he still committed? Um, I know that he did do some apologizing
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I don't know how much that I don't know how much people cared right? I don't know if he's been
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Good graces, I
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Know that I know that he did definitely do repeat that part of the cycle. Yeah since
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The Hale Hitler. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, we've moved on from that part. Yeah, we're in
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season of whoops
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Reason I thought is cuz I'm like, oh we're in post tiger blood right? That's where we're at. No, not in 2006
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No, no, no. No, that's what I'm saying for Kanye now. We're post tiger blood. Yeah
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Yeah, the the sort of reflective part after the manic. Yeah. Yeah outburst though anti-semitic manic, right?
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Yeah, so Charlie Sheen in 2006 just a celebrity top of the world, yeah
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Yeah, it's on two and a half men killing it my highest-paid guy, right? I think so
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There's only a couple years into the show. Yeah, so I bet he was yeah, I bet he had a great salary
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Yeah, but there was still more to come five more years
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Exactly. Mr. Sheen. Of course, he comes from a activist family Martin Sheen
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who is the star of the West Wing and
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Will has been immortalized by
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Some of the movie roles that he has played like Apocalypse Now
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has always
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Really stood up first to corruption
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by the federal government
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especially
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Warmongering and his son is someone of an activist like both of his sons are somewhat of
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Activists in their own right though not as well known for activism as their father. Well, I think that that in the future you'll be seeing
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Charlie Sheen standing up more and more to the issues that
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He's concerned about and he'll be doing some of that coming up in the next segment and talk about his hit show two and a half
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Men which a lot of people I talked to here in the office before mr
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She was gonna come on really excited because because they're big fans of that broadcast that airs every week on
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CBS
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So we're gonna go to break we're gonna come back
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We're gonna talk to mr. Sheen for the rest of the hour and then coming up in the second and third hour
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I'll get into all the government sponsored terror news the Iraq news the police state news here in America with the secret police are up to
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And a lot more so I get that Alex probably isn't getting paid to have Charlie Sheen on the show
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But there's no way to describe this as anything other than part of a promotional campaign for his show
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Alex is clearly promoting two and a half men and talking about how the staff are excited because they like the show
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That's fine if you're doing a morning radio show or just some frivolous drive time kind of thing, but Alex shouldn't be promoting CBS
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He thinks that the media is controlled by the globalists and two and a half men is one of the most successful shows on TV
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From Alex's point of view there really isn't any way to imagine that the show would be on if it weren't doing the bidding of
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The globalists right this illustrates the difficult position Alex has placed him in
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For himself in terms of the media
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His ideology requires that he demonize everything and everyone involved in making the banal shows that pacify the masses and that's easy
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When none of them want to talk to you
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This is an easy position to maintain when you're not really turning something down
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The publicity and validation that you get from associating with celebrities that was never really an option
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So aggressively pretending you're turning it down is a great way to create an iconoclastic image
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The problem arises when some celebrities want to start hanging out and all of a sudden the choice is real if
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You choose to keep your distance then you're leaving money on the table
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But at least you're not a conspiracy theorist shilling for prime time CBS sitcom
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Sure
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If you make the other decision and decide to associate with the celebrity
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Then you have to come up with an excuse for how the media is still bad and controlled by the globalist
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But what you're doing is cool
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Hmm the correct choice if you want to do a serious show is to not interview Charlie Sheen
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There isn't some amazing insight he has into what happened on 9-eleven because he's a famous actor
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The value that he brings to Alex is that he's a very famous actor who could be presented as co-signing everything Alex says
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The choice to interview him reveals that Alex is in fact interested in chasing celebrity which isn't wrong in and of itself
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It's only wrong because of the way Alex presents himself and how he chooses to present this interview
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Yeah
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Alex and his employees are supposed to be the last humans who can see through the devil's evil plans and they work around the clock
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To counter him
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But now we're hearing that a bunch of them love two and a half men one of the most run-of-the-mill sitcoms on the air
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I'd understand if they watch two and a half men as part of their studying the globalists message so they could find predictive
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Programming buried in the easy jokes, but that's not what Alex is saying
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Alex has to glaze Sheen
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CBS and two and a half men because he wants to have a friendly interview with Charlie and it works out so well for him
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Alex is able to insinuate himself into Charlie's life to the point where Charlie has a meltdown on Alex's show five years later that gets
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Him fired from two and a half men
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Charlie descends down a very dark point from there
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But Alex is able to use his proximity to the story to go on the view
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Exploiting his connection with Sheen to boost his profile and it wouldn't have been possible without Alex promoting CBS back here in
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2006 and
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Just to be clear at this point Sumner Redstone is the head of CBS and he's a billionaire who donates to a ton of
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Democratic politicians but supported Bush in the 2004 election. He's everything Alex is supposed to I mean it was wartime
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Alright you have to support the wartime president and John Kerry
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This is bullshit
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Yeah, you can't be like oh a lot of my staff loves this two and a half men coming up tonight on CBS
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Go check it out. Like this is that's not you man. Alright, so here's the thing, right? So the globalists they're smart
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they're not these dumb globalists, they're not going to make the
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Number one watched show on television the globalist mouthpiece. That would be too obvious
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They make every other show on television the globalist mouthpiece, but the number one show they leave completely alone
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Okay, see this seems arbitrary. It does feel that way doesn't it almost like somebody would just make it up on the spot
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Also, they seem to have an amazing ability to tell what is going to be the number one
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy, isn't it? Yeah, they're really good at it
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I don't think that anyone would have predicted like lost would be as big of a hit
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That's why that's what but that's why they was globalist controlled because they knew it wasn't going to be as big of a hit. Mm-hmm
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I'm following you. I'm not I literally I'm not following me anymore. Okay, I lost where I was. Yeah, I think
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Yeah, I think this is embarrassing. All right
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Our staff loves the show. Yeah, yeah, this is this is very Jimmy Fallon
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You can't be you can be Jimmy Fallon if you're Jimmy Fallon, you can't be Jimmy Fallon if you're Alex Jones
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No, that's not how it works
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No
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And you can't like just decide that because someone is willing to talk to you and be friendly with you
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That they're one of the good celebrities
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Yeah, that makes the definition of who's good and bad way too obvious and arbitrary who likes me versus who doesn't like me
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Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, so Alex introduced introduces Charlie by talking about Martin Sheen
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And he referenced Martin Sheen in that last clip. Yeah, but he talks more about his activism. Mm-hmm
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And when I got a chance to talk to Charlie Sheen
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I was just amazed because I've talked to a lot of other big Hollywood people
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We've got a few of them on this show and you know, they call me up sometimes
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Hey, you're doing a great job or I'm or I'm buying 50 copies your video and I'm like now here just take it and
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But I won't sign you're not as informed. I have to be honest as Charlie Sheen
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I mean I talked to this guy like an hour and a half yesterday and he just
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really knows
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What's going on on the planet today?
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But that shouldn't surprise me his father Martin Sheen has been on the front lines
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As Mark Twain said in the beginning a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared and scorned
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But in time when his cause succeeds the timid joined him because then it cost nothing to be a patriot
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And of course has been proven right time and time again
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It was his father and the in the days leading up to the war that was the most vocal spokesman in America
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Against this disastrous conflict everything. He said is now come true. And of course
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Charlie Sheen and his brother
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Are also activists in their own right and we are just incredibly honored to have Charlie Sheen on with us for the balance of this
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Hour, mr. Sheen good to have you with us. Nice to meet our target
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I'm great before getting the really serious stuff. Tell a little bit about two and a half men
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We are at the end of our third season
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We have three more shows to shoot most most
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sitcoms will shoot
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22 episodes but because the network
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You know always wants more product we do 24. So our season will continue when all the other shows have shut down
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But it's going good. It's going really good
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We've
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You know found ourselves sort of in or around the top ten for
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Most of this year and
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We found out we got picked up for next season, which is fabulous
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And what's happening is they're they're using our show to launch new shows
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Which is the sign of?
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Great confidence and and and trust in us sort of being the anchor of that Monday night lineup, you know
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So with that I should probably throw out a shameless plug on tonight's show
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If that's alright, oh sure tell us about tonight's show
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It's entitled the spit-covered cobbler
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and it's funny because
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Will always relate to a line of dialogue and so it's about my brother Alan played by John Cryer
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And he did dating a girl who has no money and so
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He doesn't have any money himself
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I sort of support him on the show because I took him in when he went to a divorce with his kid
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Played by Angus Jones, right?
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And so he's dealing with a woman April Bowlby who plays candy on the show to a 9-eleven, right?
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Wow, it definitely feels like Alex wants to talk about some stuff that at least looks like it's important for the info war
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But Charlie wants to promote the show
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Yeah
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They appear to be on different pages and it's a bit uncomfortable to hear Alex fake laugh as Charlie tells him the plot of
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tonight's episode in a bit more detail than we need maybe
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trim it up
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Also, Alex should hate Martin Sheen
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He's a guy who's participated in civil disobedience throughout his life and has been a lifelong Democrat
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He's had stances that Alex could agree with like the fact that he's been publicly quite anti-abortion
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But Martin Sheen always did campaign work and promotion for anti-abortion Democrat candidates
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His opposition to abortion didn't trick him into thinking that he had some common cause with the GOP and was part of a larger
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Belief he had in life like anti-war
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Kinds of like that it all blended together and that's where it came from as opposed to some religious
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Zealot conviction that Alex has right, right
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All right
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Alex absolutely does hate Martin Sheen and everything that he stands for but he also knows that his brand in
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2006 relies on his ability to not look like a white identity lunatic to the folks on the left who are really mad about the
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Iraq war
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Sheen is a big anti-war activist. So Alex needs to pretend to respect him for show. Yeah, so the audience thinks
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Oh, he's on our side. Yep. Yeah, and anytime anytime you get any questions or any feelings just be like, oh
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Remember in Apocalypse Now tell me about Dennis Hopper
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That's that's all you got to do you just move back to Apocalypse Now and you're good you can yeah, right
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Yeah, I think that if Alex had a real accounting of what he believes and his positions
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He should be like hey your dad sucks. Yeah, he really should
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He would also say he was pretty great in hotshots part. Do part. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's fair
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Yep, so Alex has had enough of hearing about the plot of this episode of two and a half man. Haven't we all yes
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So he wants to bring up
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9-eleven and Charlie's like, you know what dude I'm a fan of your work. I like you
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I like 9-eleven you have some questions about the official 9-eleven story and we got
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Hooked up because we both mutually have been looking into that
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And I want to just I guess start by
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What happened on 9-eleven what your instincts told you and really just go from there?
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Well, it was interesting and and let me just preface that by saying that
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I've been a fan of yours for a long time and I've been following you and I've been I've seen all of your
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documentaries and your your your research is is tireless and
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It's interesting because a lot of these guys you sort of look
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Behind the notes and you start to discover inconsistencies in a lot of the claims that they're making
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Which pretty much torpedoes the credibility of
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most of their substance but with you
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That's not the case
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So one thing that's interesting is that Charlie says he's been following Alex for years and watched his documentaries
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But he doesn't say that he listens to the show if he did
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I think the point he's making about Alex's claims being super consistent would be hard to defend
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At this point Alex hasn't made endgame or the Obama deception
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So the only documentaries he made are the police state ones the Bohemian Grove one and America Destroyed by Design
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These are all bullshit
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But I can understand how Charlie could watch them and feel like they weren't like other
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conspiracy theorists trash where you look under the hood and it all just falls apart and
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The reason for this is that Alex's documentaries are mostly self-referential
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Which is a big part of why it's always been hard for me to find a way to cover them on our show
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Most of it is just about creating a feeling and then telling you where that feeling should be directed
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But there's no truth or falsity to any of it
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For example in one of them Alex shows a bunch of b-roll footage that he shot at an urban warfare training exercise
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In it you can see people dressed in military style outfits storming would appear to be suburban American homes
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The people running this exercise would tell you that the troops are fighting in urban areas overseas and doing these exercises in
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Approximations of the area they're going to be in is important for training
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Meanwhile Alex shows the footage and claims that their troops training specifically to later raid suburban American homes
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That's what the footage looks like
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So obviously the people who would say that it's training for operations in other countries like Iraq must be lying
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Hmm in service of making his point Alex can flash up and reference unrelated and out of context documents some of them fake
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He can play out of context clips of people saying things that reinforce his point like the clip we discussed a while back of a
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Person in one of these training exercises improvising a line about being an American and all of it is meant to build up and reinforce
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The feeling that Alex is selling but there's nowhere to really go with fact-checking
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Charlie can't research any of this any further because Alex is selling a feeling and reporting on people's intentions
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He's telling you that the military is running these urban warfare exercises because they intend to use these tactics against the US
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But you could never confirm this if you reached out to them. They'd give you the answer about overseas urban
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conflict situations and you'd be back where you started and
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The reality is that Charlie didn't and doesn't fact-check any of these things that Alex says on these tapes
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But what he's telling Alex is more that he enjoys the feelings those tapes
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Give him the feelings are consistent through Alex's films
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Which feels like the same thing as Alex having all of his facts in order and you checked his notes and it all it's all
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Good, the feeling is good. Yeah
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Charlie's kind of dumb, you know
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I'm thinking about this right and I'm thinking if if his angle if he had it if his angle was this right?
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I don't want them training in these situations
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Not because I don't want them to have success in Iraq or because I think they're not going to use it in Iraq
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I don't want them to train because I want operational advantage should they ever be sent to us
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I'm training in suburban warfare to make sure that when they come here, I'll have the advantage right?
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I can't let them train in suburban warfare too. That's coherent. That is well at least I mean, it's somewhat coherent
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Yeah, but yeah, I could see that being like an
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That's not what Alex is saying is like it would it would be like, alright
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We must study what they do in urban warfare in order to be prepared
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Like militarily for right that yeah, right
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So then the angle there would be like I kind of want them to lose it for
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I guess that's kind of the point that would preclude them from doing it would make it very difficult
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Yeah, that's also not Alex's point. No, I hope they lose is probably not gonna be a good point in 2006, especially
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Yeah, his point is mostly selling those those DVDs with sensationalized and out-of-context shit. Yeah, so
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Charlie he's been doing his own research. Oh, that's always a good sign. Yeah, it is especially if you're sure this is tough for me because
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For the longest time I've been doing my own
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independent research and
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You know, I don't claim to be an expert in any of these fields but just as a as a concerned
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Upstanding tax-paying American citizen, there's just
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There's questions I have that I wish somebody could
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Explain away for me. There's things that that one will will view and then look at the the King Commission's official report and
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it just
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As I heard somebody once say might have been you
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There's holes in the story. You could fly a Boeing jet through. Oh, there certainly is
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In fact, we were talking yesterday and you said over the phone that that the biggest conspiracy theory is the official story
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I mean at every point
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It's a fabrication. It's a lie. Would you elaborate on that?
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Well, yeah, it's like they they want to just pigeonhole all of us into this group of
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conspiracy nutbags
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when we're not really debating things that are
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related to
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UFOs
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bringing down the towers or building 7 or the Pentagon right and so
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It's just
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You know, it just feels like
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You know, there's there's things in there that that we're not the conspiracy conspiracy theorists on this particular issue
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You know
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I
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will accept Charlie's point that he doesn't like the idea of everyone who doesn't believe the official story of
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9-eleven being painted as the same kind of conspiracy theorist at this point in American history after
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9-eleven and in the Iraq War the media really didn't have to take the various different versions of weirdos out there all that seriously
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Because social media hadn't become ubiquitous and the iPhone wasn't even released
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There was a there's a lot of nuance and difference between people who thought that the story of
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9-eleven didn't add up and people who thought like the UFOs took down the towers were an entirely different crew
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They were but they were separate back then but the media really couldn't treat them as all that different
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They could they could get away with treating them all as in the same basket back then
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Yeah, it's worth noting that the people who thought UFOs took the towers down didn't really exist
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There might have been a few of them on message boards somewhere
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But in terms of conspiracy theorists there really were just the same two sides
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There always is
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The side that thinks things don't add up and are seeking explanations for it and the side that wants to blame their scapegoat
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Scapegoat group for everything who are just gonna distort all information. They find to serve that goal
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I'm interested in Charlie's his seeming inability to articulate anything that resembles a question that he can't get an answer to
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He wants answers to these questions and throughout that whole clip
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He didn't say anything specific. No, he just said platitudes and like why won't anyone answer my questions, man?
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Yeah, it seems like he's about to on multiple occasions say something specific
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Yeah, and then he stops any pulls back. Yeah. Mmm
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I don't know why exactly but that was a strong feeling that I got from him. I
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Feel here's what I'm here's what I'm getting right?
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I am imagining a version of it's a wonderful life with Alex
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and then if you like just really go back through and see the way that he's touched people and like
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oh man, if you weren't there I
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Bet things would have been so much better. I bet things that have been so much better. He's got the worst
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It's a wonderful life ever at the end of it. He's like that makes me want to jump and they're like, yeah
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That's why we did it. That's what we're here for. Yeah, you gotta go dude
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It's it's so weird to look at this with the knowledge that like he
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Essentially is complicit in ruining Charlie's life. Absolutely. It's so wild. It's so wild Charlie. She's a big boy
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He can make his own decisions. Obviously Alex isn't responsible for any of that man. He
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Played a particular role in a way that he should have known better as a bipolar type one person, right in these situations
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I'm not always in control and I definitely hope I'm not meeting somebody at the time who's going to point me the way Alex does
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Mm-hmm, you know like when you're when you're manic you're like an arrow going whatever direction as fast as possible
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And if you let that guy point you you're fucked. Yeah, cuz he wants to profit off whatever direction you're going in. Yep
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So I got this strong feeling that Charlie was like about to bring up specifics of the questions that he has
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Yeah, but kept pulling back. Yeah, and I think that Alex got the same sense. It seems to me
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like
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You know 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over for commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets
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That feels like a conspiracy theory. Well, I tell you back in 2001 everybody admits that cell phones didn't work over 3,000 feet
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How were they working at 30?
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3,000 32,000 feet how did how did Al Qaeda make NORAD stand down did Al Qaeda call mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco?
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As the Chronicle reported and and say don't fly to New York. No the White House did
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Did did Al Qaeda call someone Russia and say don't fly to New York on September 11th
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No, the Times of London reported that the White House did did
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Did Al Qaeda run drills CIA and Pentagon drills on the morning of 9-11 of hijacked jets hitting those exact same targets of those exact
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Same times and then drills the day before and drills two weeks before
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Yeah, the answer to that would be probably not I think that Alex could sense the same ambivalence that I felt in that
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Last clip and Sheen wasn't coming up with any specific talking points
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He was saying that he had questions, but wasn't being specific about anything and I suspect that's why Alex launched into that barrage of talking points
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These are supposed to be the anomalies that represent the questions that they just can't get answers to
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This is really how Alex's rhetoric works if you're in a conversation with someone and they hit you with that
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There is no way to respond
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He's referenced like ten different things some of which you probably don't know anything about and the aggressive tone that he's taking is meant
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To make it clear that he's ready to defend any of these things if you push back on them
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But they're all pretty hollow and I don't count any of that is Charlie having questions about those things
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Sure, he's he's having them
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Projected on to him, but he didn't bring these up
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Yeah
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We've talked about pretty much all those points in the past and the only thing that Charlie seems to be bringing to the table himself
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Is that he thinks that 19 amateurs would have more trouble taking over planes and that they hit too many of their targets
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That's a fine concern to have but I don't know how anyone is supposed to argue that with him
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He thinks that taking over a plane is too hard for them to have pulled off
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But he's not gonna accept anyone who takes the position that apparently taking over a plane was easier than we wanted to believe in
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2001 yeah, he thinks they should have hit less than 75% of their targets
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But what would Charlie need to hear to decide that it's possible for hijacker hijackers to have this level of accuracy
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Yeah, how are these things possible to argue?
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Yeah
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Are these actually questions that Charlie has that no one can answer for him or are they feelings that he has that no one's been
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able to help reassure him about I
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Kind of think it's the latter and that Alex knows that he can easily
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Hijack feelings and make them seem like questions and that one of the best ways to do that is this flood of supposed anomalies
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That gets you off your back foot
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Yeah, it makes you a well, I can't I don't have answers for any of those things and they just reinforce the same feeling
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Yeah
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Cuz if your questions are if your questions literally are like I don't think they could hijack planes and I don't think they should hit
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That many targets then what if the answers are just like yeah
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It was too easy to hijack planes and anybody who hijacked shit is gonna hit somewhere between 25 and 75 percent of their targets
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They got lucky and hit the high end or they could have just tripped and fallen and not hijacked any plane
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It's just random life is chaos. Yeah, you know, maybe it's not maybe it's not entirely random in the rolling the dice sense of it
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But like yeah, they hit 25 to 75 percent of their targets
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We got unlucky that we live in a reality where they were at their height
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Absolutely and like yeah, it should be harder to take over a plane
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It's okay. That's one of the lessons 9-11 certainly taught people read it changes your maid
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Is it is it satisfying enough to say there were a lot of?
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Naivete's yeah that we operated with
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Early September 2001. Yeah, that's not satisfying. That's not gonna
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Know it is it is like the world didn't operate that we thought it did the way we thought it did in a more unsafe
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Way than we thought it was right
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But Alex's point is well if then what we're going to do is make it seem like the world is the least safe place in
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The world no, no, the world is entirely safe
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Except right for all of these things that the evil people are doing right?
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9-11 only happened because these evil people fucking did it not because
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Well, it's something that can happen in the chaos and randomness of the world. Yeah, the world is fucking so safe
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It's if it weren't for these fucking global these fucking globalists. Yeah
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Silly yeah anyway, I think Charlie for the most part
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Doesn't want to talk in specifics right? I think that's like all that
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Alex is doing in this interview
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No, it's just it's just
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The the the more you look at stuff especially
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specific incidents specific events in or around the faithful day it just
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It just raises a lot of questions there's a lot of questions, and I know that a couple of years ago. It was
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You know severely unpopular to discuss any of this
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But it sort of feels like just in my research and in the people that I talked to and in and around my
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circles
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Seems like a worm is turning
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because you start talking about this even with
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Yeah, conservative Republicans
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And they can't really debate away
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Some of the most obvious facts. What are the obvious facts?
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What are the obvious the worm is turned you start talking about this stuff the fateful day
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Like it he feels to me like somebody who doesn't really have anything. Yeah, but he's cool
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Yeah, and the only thing you're getting out of this interview is networking like he's just networking with Charlie
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Yeah, Charlie doesn't have like some great truth to give
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Him about 9-eleven. Yeah, there's no there's nothing that he's uncovered in his research that makes him a valuable source
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The only thing is feeling associated mm-hmm Alex is associated with this really really famous rich guy
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Yep, and the audience by proxy can feel associated to yep. That's what this interview achieves
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Yeah, and Alex is Alex is trying to make it more. He's trying to give him the smorgasbord. Yes, you pick one
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I'll take any of these you you don't trust this
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Let's talk about that and because Charlie's not really taking the bait
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Which is interesting again in the context of how we know Charlie's career goes
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You know like this is when he's like I'm not going to take the bait
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But I think he's taking the bait and being like I'm comfortable with the fact that this is a baited hook dipping his toes in
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The water yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right
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I won't let him off using one of the buffet options that Alex is setting out in front of it
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But it's not because he's against eating sure it's big. I think probably because like I don't know I don't know
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Yeah, yeah, I don't feel like I want to let put myself out on the limb
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Doesn't realize that Alex is not gonna be like what you don't know about yeah, yeah
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Yeah, yeah, just Alex will yes, and whatever he chooses
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Yeah, that's just Alex wanting to be like get more involved get more associated in this yep
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And so finally they do kind of get to something they can they can sink teeth into okay, and that is building seven
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All right building seven got pulled my man sure yeah, and then you've got
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Silverstein the leaseholder the owner of
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Seven as well as the rest of the complex right on
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tape on the record
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Saying we've had such a terrible loss of life that day, and I made the decision that they should
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Go ahead and pull it and we gave the order and watch the building come down. Yeah
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Well poll is the I mean that's is that just coming to the demo world as action and cut to the movie world in fact
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In the same PBS documentary narrated by Kevin Spacey or not Kevin Spacey the other guy he comes right out and says
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They cut to one of the other
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Engineers demoing a building, and he says we're getting ready to pull it
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This is the kind of evidence that Alex provides and it's not really evidence
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But it looks enough like it that it can trick people in documentaries pretty easily
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Larry Silverstein said that they decided to quote pull it in an interview about 9-eleven and Alex is presenting
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This is proof that he gave the order to carry out the controlled demolition sure the problem
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Is that on its own this isn't proof of anything in?
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Context it's pretty clear that Silverstein was talking about the decision to pull the firefighters from the building
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Because he's describing a conversation that he had with the fire department commander
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That guy had told Silverstein that they weren't confident
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They could control the fire in building 7 so when they said pull it they were talking about getting the firefighters out and letting the
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Fire burnout on its own right right
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We're trying to save people's lives instead of letting them die and part of a fire that they can't even fight
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Yeah
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Yeah in order to prop up his own interpretation of what Silverstein said Alex has some video of demolition people saying pull it
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Before they take down a building
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It's a different building and it has nothing to do with 9-eleven, but they use the same word so this must mean something
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Whenever someone uses the words pull it they must be talking about controlled demolitions
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We have a remarkable language where the same words can be used in many different situations
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light it up could be used by someone turning on a lighting rig or by someone who has a joint in their hand or
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By someone telling a group of soldiers to open fire if you had a video of a lighting person
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Saying that they decided to light it up
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And then you played a video of a soldier saying light it up before shooting into a building
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You could create the image that the lighting person was giving a kill order, but it wouldn't mean anything
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No, this is the same kind of game that they're playing. Yeah, and
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I don't I don't it's sad. It's it's just come on guys
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Yeah, I mean it really does point out the the failings of language whenever you contextually it requires so fucking much
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You know like we're we're playing from behind the gun
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There's there's no way to contextually defeat somebody who can just remove it at will
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Like that was how great it was before we had recorded stuff
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You didn't know if somebody said that you couldn't trust anybody now it's on a recording
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Can't trust it, but now yeah, you have a recording and like now it's a mean a hundred different fucking things
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Yep, it's all insane. Yeah, and now we have fake recordings and deep fakes terrible. Oh, there's
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You know what Dan it's a hoax. It's all a hoax
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The whole thing is a Chicago, Michigan
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So but that was the reason that I
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Kept that clip in and decided to discuss it was that it was something that Charlie brought up
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Yeah, that was a specific that Charlie brought up
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Yeah
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So when he has these questions that can't be answered
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This is an this seems to be an example of one of those things right and I'm trying to illustrate the shallowness of these
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Questions that aren't really questions. Yeah, and so here we have another one here from the Sheen man
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Let me ask you though, how long did it take to start an investigation after my don't know Pearl Harbor
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about a day, okay
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The Titanic it started that day
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JFK
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Started that day. Yeah
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Started about a year later
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Yeah
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the investigation of all of these things started immediately in a
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Nonspecific sense that folks were asking questions about them and the government was trying to figure out how to respond in
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Order to actually look at Charlie's question
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We have to just deal with the official investigation which for 9-11 was the 9-11 Commission
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Which they said took too long to start right that Commission was established on November 27th
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2002 which may feel like a long time after the actual event
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However, let's look at some of the other examples that Charlie brings up
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He asks Alex about Pearl Harbor and Alex says that investigation began the day later
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Hmm as we know from the famous quote Pearl Harbor that attack happened on December 7th
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1941 a day that will live in infamy in
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Congress the Joint Committee on the investigation of the Pearl Harbor attack was not established until September 6th
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1945 what?
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Four years later. It's almost like they had other things on their mind immediately
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Sure should cut but in fairness in December
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1941 president FDR did create a panel to investigate the attack headed by Supreme Court Justice Owen Roberts
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Which became the Roberts Commission?
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They directed blame at a few US Navy men who were derelict in their duty and raised concerns about Japanese spies
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Which became part of the rationale for the internment of Japanese Americans good stuff
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So from that information, it looks like maybe Pearl Harbor was investigated much more quickly
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But that's to pretend that the 9-eleven Commission was the first investigation into 9-eleven right the joint inquiry into intelligence
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community community activities began in February
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2002 the point is as it relates to 9-eleven as is the case for all of these tragedies there were
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Investigations that were launched quickly and then as more information was gathered a full official investigation could be carried out
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Usually the preliminary ones like the February 2002 investigation with 9-eleven and the Roberts Commission with Pearl Harbor
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Were focused on the question. How did this happen?
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Looking at intelligence or leadership failures that could have been responsible
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This happens because in theory we should know everything we need to know to carry out that investigation
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It has to do with us our troops our readiness
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Those kinds of things are easier to immediately assess like where are the holes here and that's what you see in these tragedies the immediate
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Investigations. Yeah, you can't do a 9-eleven Commission investigation until there's a little bit of distance
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Yeah, and that's the same for every one of these examples that he lists
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I mean all of the examples that he lists to the the main
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investigations
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were not like
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Like how would I put it they were commissioned on the sense of like hey, let's fucking do it
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You know, they're they're not commissioned on like oh, why hasn't anybody done this before they're like, we've got all of this shit
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We've got all this evidence all over the place. These people have their ideas. These people have their ideas these people all this stuff is over there
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So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get you guys and you fucking do the whole thing
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Right that takes so much time just to get started because you don't even know how much evidence you have
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Yeah, right
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You don't know who you need to collect from it's true
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And you definitely don't know how you're going to discover who got here from what place if you're just starting a war
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Yeah, and like let's even like look at his list. One of them was the Titanic like
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9-eleven or Pearl Harbor those are attacks. Yeah, Pearl Harbor
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Sorry, the Titanic sunk. Yeah, like that obviously there needs to be an investigation of that
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But it's not like it was it was sunk by a belligerent country. Yeah, it's it's
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It was sunk by a belligerent drunk in an iceberg
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And those fucking time travelers. Yeah, didn't save the shit. They were supposed to save the shit
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Mmm fucking tunnel ass. They saved they saved us from the meteor, but they can't save us from doesn't make it
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It doesn't make sense
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but like the
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Comparing those two or having this list is it reveals a little bit of that
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I don't think you're taking I don't think that point is serious. Yeah, this is a meme conspiracy
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Yes, it's like a post that you'd see that's supposed to blow people's minds, but there isn't the depth to it
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There is there is no situation where that
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Like that is just a structure that you cannot trust inherently. Like when did this start the next day? I don't believe you
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I already don't believe you right you answered too quick. The next day is impossible
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Who the fuck who got to work when did they show up 9 a.m
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The exchange between them isn't meant to reflect reality when investigation started. It's a call-and-response church kind of feeling. Yep
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Between the two of them. It's affirmation of faith. We're just going to believe this. I don't need any more information
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Yeah, so what they do want not more information. No, but an independent
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investigation
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Everybody loves a good we gotta get to the bottom
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Independently more than half of Americans in major polls want some type of real investigation. What would you like to see?
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I would like to see the same thing. I think it's got to be
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It's got to be headed by the
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If this is possible
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some
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neutral investigative committee
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I don't know
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Exactly how to establish that
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Well, the problem is though you would know more about that than I would well the problem is they tried to again appoint Henry Kissinger
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And they called him independent
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It was like appointing one of Janet Reno's deputies to investigate Waco and calling an independent on what would be independent
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Maybe maybe just randomly pick
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20 engineers or something and then and then draft them for a committee and then make sure no one tried to intimidate the witnesses
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I mean maybe just a jury of the peers
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What if we use like?
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retired political
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Foreign nationals what if we use experts that don't have any ties whatsoever to this administration?
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Well Michael Meacher a number three in the Blair government says that he believes the government may be behind it
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And then we have let's hire him the former German defense minister
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Saying the same thing so and a bunch of other Russian and other foreign leaders are saying the same thing
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Over 80% of the French public and major polls say our government did it so boy we got foreigners to do it
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Come to the same conclusion
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But I'm just saying as far as people that don't have a stake or don't have an interest or don't
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You know aren't control. I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm just saying that they would come to the same conclusion
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Yeah, that's stupid. Yeah, but it's amazing how Alex's mind works
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They're talking about how they could put together a neutral unbiased committee to investigate
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9-eleven and all of the people Alex can come up with to include are people who agree with his conclusion already the most biased people
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Anyway doesn't want an unbiased committee
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He wants a committee that's pre biased towards his conclusion, and that's actually really key to understanding him
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Yep, and actually unbiased neutral jury might not always convict Alex, but they would never be persuaded by the arguments
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he'd be able to make in a formal setting and
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Actually unbiased neutral committee wouldn't reach the conclusion that hey
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Maybe loose change figured 9-eleven out nailed it that conclusion is only coming from a rigged
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Highly biased committee which is what Alex actually wants he just insists on calling it unbiased because it sounds better and
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He's an idiot. Yeah
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God, I couldn't get this image out of my head whenever he was like oh
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We should get a bunch of foreign nationals to do it who have no I I had this like
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It's like an oceans movie
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I had this moment where Osama bin Laden turns around and like removes his mustache and you're like
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And he's leading the Commission God that'd be great yeah
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I mean it wouldn't be great to have Osama leaving the investigation. Oh, but it would be a very funny image
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Don't get me wrong. I don't think Kissinger's great either. No I agree
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I think these are both bad option bad dudes, but I love the idea that Alex the fucking Americana guy
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Yeah, it's like let's get yeah, you know what Charlie Sheen actor
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You have made a wonderful point about foreign nationals deciding what happened with our government
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I don't think you can sincerely want
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Foreign nationals to do an investigation if you also call them foreigners in the same true sentence
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And so Charlie's idea is retired like public servants right of foreign countries
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Yeah, and Alex's he's like okay
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I know a few of them and then he remembers a trivia piece that 80% of the French
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Believed that 9-eleven was an inside job, so what now we just want a jury of the French
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Yeah, let's just let the French French public gave us the Statue of Liberty and now they're gonna free us from 9-eleven conspiracies
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Thank you the French the fun thing is just like thoughts like that
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Reveal how non sequitur his his thinking is
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It's it do you want you don't want the fucking French?
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I don't even know how you could get to a point where you're like hey 80% of the French think it's an inside job as
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As support for anything yeah anything except for cheese well you don't like cheese though
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I've tried cheese in Paris. Yeah, let's not get into it. Yeah, so
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Alex the first hour is interviewing Charlie Sheen yeah, and it's basically as I've described you know he's
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Ambivalent to take responsibility for saying too much stuff, but also he's in he's on board sure he likes Alex sure he
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Is into these conspiracy
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leanings in a way that is so
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sadly
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Unaware of how much of a consequence this will have I know
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But yeah
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You shouldn't do this in the first hour it is it is so strange. It's like
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It's like right you're you're you're seeing somebody on that street over there
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Right and you just know because five years later
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They get hit by a bus you know that you can see a five-year from now bus come in
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And you're like you just got to move out of the way man
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But there's nothing you can do much like the people from the time tunnel on the Titanic you can do nothing
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You can't do anything to change the past yeah, unless you were already supposed to have done that it sucks. Yeah
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Anyway, you shouldn't do this in the first hour because what do you do for the rest of the show?
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Oh three hours of calling show
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Whatever whatever so at the second hour Alex is I mean he's riding high on the fact that he interviewed Charlie Sheen
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But also like everything feels everything's that down yeah, but it turns out some of their stations didn't air all of them
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conspiracy
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Off of
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The satellites were able to hear the whole Charlie Sheen interview
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But 15 minutes towards the end of the interview about 45 after last hour all of the streams
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And I mean there are a bunch of streams. I've got servers and network has servers
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It just matched out and crashed so what I'm going to do is
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That interview is so important as more and more prominent people go public
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I'm just going to air that interview again next hour
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We're getting a lot of requests and phones are ringing off the hook of the network
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Yeah, they're just gonna air it again in the third hour
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Amazing yeah, that's that's the time God. That's the type of shit that only being your own boss
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Is that's only available to you? Yeah, you know and it also is like a
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Reflection of we had a famous guy on like I don't think it's a terrible interview, but it's also not an interview that
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Illuminates anything right it doesn't bring to light any new information
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It is just like we got fucking Charlie Sheen on the show and that's why it's re-aired
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That's why the people are drawn to it
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And why Alex wants to make the most of it not because like we're actually breaking through anything
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It is it is I I mean ironically
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It's like if the doors open with break on through and then did break on through as an encore
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You know it's like you know why you know why yeah?
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So he plays it in the third hour and the second hour is kind of like waiting for that to happen
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Yeah, but Alex does say something that got me excited
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I snuck out last night after work and saw V for Vendetta my wife
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Caught by my own mouth, but I snuck off and watched it last night
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And it was it was good
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People said was Illuminati and then and I'd read some of the different synopses that were out there about it
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I said those were dishonest
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I mean I I have questions about the matrix I have questions about some of the Illuminati things that are in it
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Okay, especially in the third one, okay?
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What is it matrix revolutions or revelations I forget?
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But the Wachowski brothers with V for Vendetta I know why the media is attacking and I mean it shows the government
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Carrying out terror attacks with a bird flu type
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weapon
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To get martial law to go after their political enemies and to sell the pharmaceutical that is the cure for it
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Which is what's happening in our real world, so I got excited because it's like okay another fucking shot at a movie review
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Let's do it. We're gonna fucking get V for he just saw V for Vendetta last night. That's like
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That's
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earthquake
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That is what we are here for he might as well have a tattoo of a Guy Fawkes match absolutely
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It's a this that movie is important. Yeah
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He does not really talk much more about it damn it
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I'm hoping that maybe
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It's coming. Maybe the V for Vendetta review is coming outside of outside of this like a little bit of stray
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Hey, it's it's got good messages in the prologue to how the movie
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Sets up the world that it exists. Yeah
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Yeah, I was really kind of hoping because I don't really remember like I was trying to remember what exactly happens
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And now I don't have the full thing you know I've got the vibe of V for Vendetta Natalie Portman
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shaving right and Stephen Fry is a show host who yeah, who's gay yeah, and he has a
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Bolt of courage at the end, and then they just murder him uh-huh yeah, and then yeah Natalie Portman
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becomes Guy Fawkes
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Acolytes right and they blow up the right the powder plot remember the member that yeah
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Huh, and then there's an investigator. I should rewatch it, and I would have if Alex reviewed it yeah
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So I make this promise to you yeah to the American people if he reviews it. I will rewatch it all right
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I'll probably rewatch it anyway. Yeah, probably I
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Alex reviewing it will trigger a rewatch. Okay, all right for sure yeah
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God anyway, that's
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We've had so many so many problems with him just following through on a movie review well two in the last two
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2006 episode right that's brutal scanner darkly and V for Vendetta. We're owed to two that are
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Important yeah high up on the list, and I think have a large potential for him to misread in interesting ways right
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I know more about oblivion from him. Yes, but that well oblivion doesn't mean shit
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No, but scanner darkly and V for Vendetta huge on the list yeah oblivion and Elysium
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Yeah, like doesn't mean shit not really mm-hmm, so I will pray yeah
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That we get this V for Vendetta review absolutely, but I can't promise anything
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Mmm. I am but a man you can't promise it no no you can't
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I wish I had a V for Vendetta quote that I could twist into being about
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Whether or not you get the review that you want yeah, I was waiting for you mr.. Review
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God no I would bet okay. Here's what I bet I bet
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You could find out what episode he does a review of V for Vendetta on
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Somewhere yeah, but I don't know which one it will be which year it is no, but it could be at any time
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Yeah, but that's cheating. I don't want to I don't want to cheapen this
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That's what I want to find it
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Accidentally much like we did with this Charlie
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But that's what I'm saying about this review right is that it could really come like two years from now
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Yeah, we don't know yeah
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It's a thief in the night when the those movie reviews finally come yeah, and none of us are supposed to know no
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We see through yeah
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so
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We'll be back hopefully with a movie time yeah, but until then we have website indeed. We do it's knowledge fight calm
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Yep, we'll be back, but until then I'm the only OMD zx Clark. I am the mysterious professor
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And now here comes the sex robots Andy in Kansas you're on the air, thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a person color my huge fan. I love your work. I love you
