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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Zeline and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan, Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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Sup.
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How's Survivor doing?
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You know what, I gotta stop you, cause I have a bright spot.
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I go first in the month of March as is tradition.
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And I'm not talking about Survivor.
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Okay, okay, don't talk about Survivor.
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I don't wanna talk about it.
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I had fun with this bit, but maybe it's just, maybe it's run its course, who knows.
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I don't really have that many things to say about it.
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Bits come and go.
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Anyway, I-
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It's a boomerang bit, if you will.
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Yeah, and it has come back to me.
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And now I'd like to drop it.
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And, no, my bright spot, I'm gonna throw out the movie Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
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Oh yeah, that's great.
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I watched that, checked that out, had a great time with it.
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Grand movie.
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Such fun.
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Yep.
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It was just on fire.
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Perfect.
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Just a nice, goofy, fun time that also feels like it's saying something.
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Yep, no notes.
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Fantastic job, guys.
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If you don't like parts of it, yeah, that's fine.
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Sure.
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People don't like parts of it.
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But I thought it was great.
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Yeah.
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And I think that it really benefited from doing something new lately, which is I'm going
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into movies not knowing anything about what's going on.
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Yeah.
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Just complete blank slate.
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Yeah.
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And I think that not knowing what this was going to be like or how this, you know, I
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think that really made the experience a lot better.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Like, I can't, I'm sure Hamnet is good.
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Are you?
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No.
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Okay.
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But I know too much.
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I've seen too much.
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About the characters?
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About the play?
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No.
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I saw the trailer and that's too much.
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That is too much.
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I saw the trailer for Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
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I didn't really know what the fuck is going on here.
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Nope.
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This could go a hundred different directions.
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Nope.
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I feel like I know Hamnet.
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Hamnet told you exactly what you were going to see.
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Mm-hmm.
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And you don't really need to see that.
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They might do it well.
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Maybe they did.
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I don't care.
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Nope, not particularly.
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Not going to see Hamnet.
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No.
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Not going to see the Smashing Machine.
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Nope.
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You can't make me.
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No.
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I'll never see Nuremberg either.
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Not going to happen.
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You can't make me watch that.
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Not going to do it.
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No.
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I see it.
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I know what it is.
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I know the guy.
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I even know some of the stories about how articulate and bullshit.
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Fuck that.
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I don't need to see the movie.
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Fine.
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I'm not making you.
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I don't want to.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot, Dan, is that sometimes we go out of this room to do a version of our
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show in a place with other people.
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That has happened.
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Yeah.
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And so my bright spot is that we'll be doing it again.
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What?
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Yep.
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On May 16th.
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Huh?
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Yeah.
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You better believe it.
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Five sixteen.
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At Two Brothers Roundhouse.
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What?
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Yep.
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So what you can do is go get tickets on Saturday morning at 9am.
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That's when the tickets will go live.
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We'll put the link in the description to this episode.
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Yep.
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It's a smaller venue.
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Yep.
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So like, you know, probably might sell out fairly quick.
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Yeah, I would set an alarm.
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So if you want to come, do it.
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I mean, it would not bother us at all if it took like two months to sell.
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No big deal.
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But if I was you, I would be I would set an alarm at nine.
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It's a nice brewery.
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Yep.
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Our friend Matt Drufke does a show there.
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Absolutely.
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We're excited to do a show.
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Yeah.
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It'll be great.
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I think this is the first show in Chicago since that one at the playground where no
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one came because no one knew what our show was.
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Yep.
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I mean, it's not even in Chicago.
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Fair.
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It's Chicago land.
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Greater Chicagoland area.
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But man, for all those people.
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Nothing quite like when we did that show at the playground.
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And in the middle of the show, someone in the audience asked me to pass the 30 pack
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of gear that was on stage.
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Amazing.
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Hey, Greg, you want to do this?
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And of course, we did.
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Yes.
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They got it.
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Types of change.
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What an interesting...
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I bet none of them even have any clue that there were four people there.
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No, because Kevin Hogan and Nate Burrows...
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Burrows left.
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Your wife was there.
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I know, my wife was...
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Most of the people there were our friends.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I'm pretty sure there were four people there who did not know.
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I think Derek Smith was there.
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Derek Smith was definitely there.
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I think.
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Absolutely.
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I think that was where he gave us those shirts.
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Yeah, the ketchup and mustard shirts.
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Yep.
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Those are great.
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Yep.
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Anyway, two brothers.
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Two brothers.
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Tickets on sale Saturday.
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Saturday morning, 9 AM Central Time.
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Fun.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, today is something less fun.
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We have an episode to go over.
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Gah.
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And we'll talk about it in a moment.
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But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new walks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, thank you for coming to Portland and for getting me through my commute.
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I will never see 420 the same way again.
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Holly, thank you so much for an IOP policy walk.
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I'm a policy walk.
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Thank you very much.
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AC Green.
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Yep, yep.
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Next, DMagic loves Dan's rap references.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an IOP policy walk.
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I'm a policy walk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And tell Alyssa Moore that Lehman loves her and the horse she rode in on.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an IOP policy walk.
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I'm a policy walk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to CanMyDogWinkBeAPolicYWonk.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy walk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So things are bad for Alex.
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Sure.
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You know, he's going about his business and having to defend all kinds of things that
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he shouldn't be defending.
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Sure, yeah.
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And you know, the March 7th date has come and gone with his possibly going out of business.
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And so it just bores me that we're going to have to stay in the present day and talk about
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his show.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God!
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Oh my God!
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Who is that?
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Who is that coming down?
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Is that Tim Pool?
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Oh my God, is that Tim Pool?
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Tim Pool's got a chair!
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Wait, who's...
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Tim Pool is that guy.
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Tim Pool's another...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's one of those guys.
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Oh shit.
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Alex was recently on Tim Pool's show.
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Oh my God, why?
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I don't know.
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Oh man, alright.
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There's a part of me that feels like in this era of Alex, it's kind of more fun to watch
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him be put upon other people.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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There's something about them, there's an inherent embarrassment to them interacting with him
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that doesn't really totally exist for him.
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He's shameless.
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And so he doesn't need to be embarrassed to be himself, but these other people should
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be embarrassed to be talking to him.
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Yeah, if you've got a man made of shit, then the shit man is like, I know I'm made of shit,
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you're the one who's covered in shit.
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I can't get shit on me, I am shit.
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I am shit, I'm just a shit man.
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You smell bad now.
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So he was on Tim Pool's show and something funny happened.
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So there we are.
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Here we are.
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So in the course of doing this show, one of the biggest and most popular figures in the
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right wing media is someone that we've largely ignored.
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That person is Tim Pool, and the reason I've never really been too interested in covering
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him is that he's not a serious person with serious convictions.
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He's really just someone who's interested in attention and he's made it clear throughout
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his career that he's willing to lie and contradict himself if there's enough clicks in it for
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him, so it's not worth trying to grab onto.
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If you go to his pages on Rumble and other platforms, all of his video titles are clickbait
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bullshit like, they finally said it!
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Or it's actually happening.
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Is it?
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Yeah, apparently.
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Oh good, that's nice, I haven't seen things actually happen for quite some time.
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Yeah.
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Russell Brand does this same kind of shit and Alex has his own version where everything
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is always an emergency episode.
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It's a sign of desperation, but also it must work.
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Even if 80% of the people who see these titles laugh and think you look like a sad child
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begging for attention, the other 20% might be curious enough to see if this is finally
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the video with a title like that that pays off and that might add up to a fair amount
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of traffic.
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Enough to pay the bills.
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Yep.
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Either way, Tim Pool doesn't suck in the right way for me to find interesting at all.
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He's a shithead and I hate his beliefs, but I don't believe that his beliefs are sincere.
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If someone paid him enough, I'm pretty sure he'd say whatever he needed to for the check
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to clear.
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Yeah.
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But Alex was on Tim Pool's show and I think there's something more appealing about seeing
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Alex trying to exist in other people's spaces.
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So we're going to take this in and see what there is to learn, which is not much and Alex
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might be dying.
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Yay!
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So, uh, we start off with Tim Pool.
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Okay.
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Uh, talking about the wave of Islamic terrorism that's going on in the United States.
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Buh buh buh buh buh.
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Okay.
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Today we saw two attacks and we know one of them was a man who yelled Aluhu Akbar.
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The other attack on a synagogue, it is suspected to be Islamic terror.
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So the rumors going around are that we had two Islamic terror attacks, possibly retaliation
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over the war in Iran, which we had seen another terror attack in New York City, the throwing
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of an improvised explosive device as well as the attack in Austin.
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So of course the expectation is, well, we don't have the complete information, the synagogue
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attack.
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It was a vehicle reportedly owned by a man from Lebanon who was naturalized and lived
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in Dearborn, Michigan.
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So many people are saying, hey, that, you know, if it looks and sounds like a duck.
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I feel like Tim likes to present himself as someone who's above the, if it looks like
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a duck level of reasoning.
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A lot of animals who aren't ducks look like ducks, man.
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The temple attack that he's talking about in Michigan appears to have been carried out
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by a guy who has family in Lebanon.
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The perpetrator died in the attack, thankfully the only casualty of it.
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So we may never know exactly why he did it, but there are some indications that he had
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family members in Hezbollah who were killed in Israel's recent strikes on Lebanon.
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It would be somewhat inaccurate to say that this is the same thing as his attack being
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inspired by Trump's attack on Iran, but at the same time there's good reason to believe
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many of these actions are happening in the shared context of a larger war.
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So while I don't agree with the way that Tim's framing this, someone else might be able to
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make a better argument using similar pieces.
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I was wondering about that, is it a terror attack?
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That's a really interesting kind of distinction to make in the context that we're in.
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Is it a terrorist or is it like a just response?
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It's not one you like, but...
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I think if you wanted to make an argument using some definition of terrorist, that this
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isn't a terrorist, terrorism.
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I think you maybe could be successful with that, but also I think that generally speaking
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the way we use language, it's terrorist stuff.
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I do not want to make an argument, it was just a thought that I had.
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So the other attack Tim is talking about was at Old Dominion University where a former
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National Guard member shot at students at an ROTC class.
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He yelled Allahu Akbar before shooting, but this also isn't super surprising because he
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had gotten out of jail recently where he was serving a sentence after pleading guilty to
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providing material support to ISIS.
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These are awful tragedies and no one should have to experience this kind of shit, but
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from a media messaging standpoint it's critical to understand that Tim and his ilk need to
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amp up the idea that there's a clear and existential threat from Muslims in America.
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The premise of supporting Trump has become silly at this point, so the only way to keep
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the public engaged and on board is through a campaign of terror about the enemy within.
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It's basically a problem-reaction-solution type thing.
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The solution they need to push is voting for Republicans in the 2026 midterms, even though
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all of these candidates have been shit and Trump is clearly a tyrant.
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Most people aren't interested in voting for these guys and honestly might not want to
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even vote at all after all this shit.
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In order to get the solution that they want, folks like Tim create the appearance of a
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problem, in this case widespread out of control Muslim terrorism.
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He'll bang the drum on how this is the biggest problem in the world and how society will
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collapse unless someone takes care of it.
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This is his work to help produce the desired reaction, which is having a large segment
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of the population demand that some leader come along who promises to take care of the
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Muslim terrorism problem.
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And if you can make people demand and need this kind of protection from a leader, you
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can get them to accept the solution they wouldn't have accepted before.
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You have to vote for all the GOP candidates because if you don't, the Democrats will win
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and they're working with the Muslim terrorists who want to kill you.
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Whatcha gonna do?
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Boom.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to look at this and go, uh, Japanese internment camps.
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We doing that again, huh?
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All right.
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If Tim had his way, if Tim and Alex, like based on what they're saying, had their way,
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it's not too far off.
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This is the start of that.
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It's not like they went from zero to Japanese internment camp.
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There had to be a, there had to be a beginning of like, well, we know these two things are
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connected, so what do we have to do about that?
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And so on.
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So Tim has another news story that's going to lead the coverage of the day.
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And then of course, the UK, uh, it's officially over.
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They have ended house of Lords and they're removing their civic leaders from their currency
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to be replaced by the noble hedgehog and perhaps a beaver and other nature scenes because the
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tradition is basically gone.
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We're talking about that and a whole lot more.
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I couldn't tell if you said bean dream.
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I thought it was coffee.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, the house of Lords is one of the chambers of parliament and they recently adopted a
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bill that would remove the remaining people who are in the body just because of a title
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that was handed down to them generationally.
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Yeah, obviously that makes sense.
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This is a continuation of a bill from 1999 that limited the number of hereditary peers
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who could sit in the house to 92 and honestly the house of Lords is kind of silly.
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Obviously it includes 26 members who are known as the Lord's spiritual because they're archbishops
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and church figures and then the rest are Lords temporal.
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Great.
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Amazing.
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Let the Brits be Brits.
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Jesus Christ.
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Crazy stuff.
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Anyway, the UK isn't over unless Tim thinks that power being handed down generationally
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is a good thing, which I think he will say later.
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Great.
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Also, Tim is just an idiot about the pound.
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In 2025, they decided to explore putting conservation themed fronts on the bills, replacing the
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previous series that had featured folks like Winston Churchill, Alan Turing, and Jane Austen.
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That was series G of the currency and it was introduced in 2011, but it was never meant
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to be permanent.
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Prior to that, they had series F that featured a 20 pound note with Adam Smith on it and
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series E that had Darwin on the 10.
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All the while the queen was on the other side of those bills and that's not changing except
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it'll be the king.
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This naturally raises the question of why the fuck does Tim Pool care about the aesthetic
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design of another country's money?
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My question.
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And the other, like the obvious answer is that he doesn't.
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One of his staff just skimmed past a headline on Twitter or in the Daily Mail and they decided
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that it was good enough to fake some concern about and hopefully they can kill a few minutes
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of the show talking about it.
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This is just wasting time between ads.
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It couldn't be more like dumb, like morning radio.
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Like bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
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bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
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bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
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bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
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just do the stuff that is sense.
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Yeah, cut the fat off this thing.
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Somehow that was like turned around on us and going like,
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well, we need to fit four different ad breaks.
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So that means that you need to record for at least two hours.
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That means we need to have at least three to six minutes of ads.
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YouTube's algorithms have made it so they prioritize watch time.
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And so these videos that I put out have to be at least two hours long.
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Oh, fuck.
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Oh.
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Anyway, it sucks.
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It does.
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And it reminds me of bad stuff I used to listen to on Y107.
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Yup.
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Anyway, another story that he covers before bringing Alex in is about Rogan.
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Sure.
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They're going to do this UFC event at the White House.
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Yeah, got rid of the UFC of Lords.
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No, they're going to do a big UFC event at the White House.
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Did you know about this?
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19.
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Of course, I didn't know about the big punch event at the White House.
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Love it because it's man stuff in America.
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It's a man stuff.
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And so Rogan is like, hey, it seemed look, it's a little ways down the road.
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Yeah, but it seems weird to be doing that while we're at war with Iran.
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It seems like we would be bringing a ton of people at the same place
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at the same time, creating a great opportunity for someone to attack the event.
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Yeah.
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And so that's Rogan's like, he's not saying don't do it.
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He's just saying kind of like, I hope the war is over by that.
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Right. Right, right.
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I mean, you know, put the president in the middle and see how it looks
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from the space and maybe it's a bullseye.
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So Alex, it does not.
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He comes in. Yeah.
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And he does not like the idea of Rogan being such a wuss.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the great Alex Jones.
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Oh, boy, the great.
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Who are you? What do you do?
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I was thinking about Joe Rogan's vagina right now.
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That's a weird way to introduce yourself, Alex.
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Well, Joe's like, I love Joe, but like, oh, my God, we better have an event.
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The terrorists might get us.
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We just give up and go away.
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We can't ever have a meeting because the Iranians might stick their ding dong on us.
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I think Joe's afraid of the Iranian ding dong.
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You're a Joe Rogan commentator, professional.
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He's like, Joe, I'm surprised by Joe saying that.
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Well, coming out the gate, I would.
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Here's what I would say.
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Here's what I would say.
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The first thing I would say to Alex would be, you're drunk.
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How about that? We should probably not do this.
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We don't have to.
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Would you like some beam dream?
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This is this isn't life, guys.
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We can read it is like, oh, fuck you idiots.
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You fucking idiots.
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Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.
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Yeah. But still, you could say, hey, this is live.
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You can't be here.
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Hey, I just got a text from your agent. Right.
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Get out of here, buddy. You are drunk.
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So, hey, listen, you're drunk and you know what?
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That'll be fun for me.
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But let me just be clear to my audience.
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This man's shit faced.
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You shouldn't listen to a shit faced man.
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Oh, I think they recognize it.
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And I think that the other guys there, the other the sidekicks
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are kind of laughing it out. Yeah.
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Like, oh, what's up? You see a man.
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Well, I guess I mean, I'm against the war.
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Let's be clear.
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But let's keep the buses and the trains and the airplanes on time.
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Let's not fucking oh, the fucking Iranians might get it.
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So he's already swearing.
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I'm already swearing that I follow every little rule.
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No, no, I mean, here's the deal.
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Let's all just hide Joe Rogan's vagina.
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And then we'll all be safe.
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Jesus. Good to have you out.
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It's like a mother, you can already tell.
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Joe Rogan vagina.
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Luke is sitting next to him.
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We all just fly up into it. We're all safe.
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Safe and Joe Rogan.
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Thanks for coming.
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Luke, what an introduction.
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You heard Dan say like, safe under her black wings.
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I'm safe in Joe Rogan's big ass pussy vagina.
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Well, there you go.
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Yeah, it's killing.
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I mean, yeah, that is that is some. Oh,
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I don't. OK, I don't think I'll say her name.
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All right. But I will say this.
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There was an open mic way back in the day at the laugh out loud theater.
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And there was this person who had a character called Madge Jablonski.
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And it was painfully, painfully unfunny,
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which is why it was the funniest thing that I'd ever seen.
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And so it got to this situation where she would say something
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and the audience would go, no.
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But then they'd all turn around to look at me because I was cackling like a hyena.
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That's what that felt like.
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Whenever he was saying that, I was like, no, no rational human being
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should enjoy this. That's why I love it.
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Maybe maybe we'll be safe in Joe Rogan's pussy.
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Yeah, perfect. That's brilliant.
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Do more of that.
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More. Someone pay him for this.
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Do you not hear the genius happening right now?
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Joe Rogan's vagina. What?
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Unprompted.
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He doesn't have one, according to life.
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And this is inspired by Rogan being like, I would be a little careful
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about these kinds of like a large event, like the UFC at the
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at the White House in the middle of a war.
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Yeah. Yo fucking vagina man.
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It's awesome. So what's that?
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What's the movie about the president getting kidnapped?
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Olympus has fallen.
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White House Down.
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White House Down.
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White House is falling. White House Down.
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So, Alex, I think he realizes his jokes aren't going over great.
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Yeah. And so he decides to pivot and ask them to fight.
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No. Luke's here. There's that.
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Yes. I don't know how you got that tonight.
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Good. Good to be here with some old friends.
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I declare war on Joe Rogan.
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God has ordered me. I love Joe.
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It's a joke.
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He's going to show up at your house.
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OK, I guess.
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Luke's here. Yeah. Hi, guys.
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You just take you all on right now.
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You guys are fucking tough.
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You guys, you're pretty tough.
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How about we just fucking fight right now?
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You're real, man.
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All of you.
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Everyone, let's go.
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Let's prove how bad you are.
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Swag, let's go.
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You fucking take me.
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Let's see what happens.
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Thank you. No, you can.
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Why don't you fuck?
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Every fucking manager.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
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Let's go. Hey, let's go.
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Robbie will fight you.
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I'm ready. Robbie.
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I'm ready. That's a big motherfucker over there.
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I'm ready for war.
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I'm ready for war.
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Bah.
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Yeah, it's good.
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It didn't take long to challenge people to a fight.
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No, everyone.
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All of you. Your man, I'll fight you.
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Like most sober people do,
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within less than five minutes,
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he challenged everyone there to a fight.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't know if Alex can really understand
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that in that moment, everyone is laughing at him.
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Like he's a clown dancing around for their entertainment.
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Yep.
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And that's all good and well,
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but I want to focus on how Alex is joking
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about declaring war on Joe Rogan.
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And he says that it's what God told him to do.
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He's obviously joking.
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And we're not supposed to take it seriously
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that God told him to fight Joe.
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But this introduces a real problem.
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There are other times that Alex says God told him to do things.
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And we're supposed to hear that, like, not as a joke.
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And because of that dynamic, Alex,
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this kind of joking is abusive to the audience.
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If you're a prophet and you publicly define yourself
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as someone who God speaks through,
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then you need to carry yourself with a very strict level of respect for God's word.
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You can't joke about God telling you to do something
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because God does tell you to do things.
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So what if someone listening doesn't get that you were joking about it this time?
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You've just committed blasphemy and possibly encouraged someone
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to do something evil, thinking that God commanded them to through you.
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Regardless of how anyone is treating him or how clearly drunk Alex is,
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his actions and jokes make it clear to anyone watching that God is a joke to him.
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Being told things by God is a joke to him.
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Prophecy is a joke to him, and the audience is the butt of the joke.
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That's not cool.
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It's a fun character, right?
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The drunk priest who like, I believe, but do I really believe?
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Because I'm drunk, blah, blah, blah, you know.
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But if you think about like, can you imagine Elijah, right?
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Setting that pillar on fire and then get shit faced later on that night
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and is like, ha ha, I might do it to you.
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I could just have people of God go and burn that guy.
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No, I'm just fucking with you.
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I'm not going to get God to or wham.
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You don't know. I can call fire from the sky.
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No, it's stupid. Yeah, it's crazy.
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It's when you combine this with who he wants to be seen as as a prophet.
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Is that come on, man?
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You can't do it now. You just you can't.
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Sometimes there's room for being a little bit of a goofball.
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But I, I don't know.
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I just feel like God probably isn't there for that.
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I think you can do it as long as everyone's laughing at you. Sure.
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But the world that we live in now with the people who are in the power
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full positions that they are, it's not probably not wise now.
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So, Alex, I think he can tell that there's discomfort
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because his jokes aren't landing and now he's threatening to fight everybody. Sure.
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And so he tries to explain to Tim like, hey, man, I'm giving you viral content here.
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I'm ready to fucking live in Joe Rogan's vagina.
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Let's let's start with the news.
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Hey, I just gave you what's viral over the year to joke.
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You're trying to comedy. I love Joe.
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Well, I know I suck his pussy every night.
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It's just that we try to be family friendly.
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No, we try to. Not tonight.
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I'm not sure. Lube it up.
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It's going to get the show taken down.
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I'm a huge get the show taken down.
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Oh, Lindsey and like and I watch like Rubio gets in and then and then it comes.
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Huckabee was 12 foot and they just boom boom.
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The aristocrats. He's hung.
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All right. That's what I do.
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Oh, God, I'm 18 foot dick.
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And I just hear those cocks, those neocon cocks.
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And then you all comes in with a footer.
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I imagine it just cures Trump.
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I imagine Huckabee's watching being like, I'm kind of offended,
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but that is a compliment.
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I think that Alex is drunk. Yeah.
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I mean, that's all I think.
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It's here's what I think.
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He's having weird sort of violent homoerotic fantasies.
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Yeah. And he's drunk.
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My my feeling on this is Tim Pool has already made a huge mistake.
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Yeah. Right. I think he's realized his mistake.
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Right. Exactly. And his response to that is incorrect.
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He's going to try and get a handle on this.
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He's trying to interrupt. He's trying to be on top of it.
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My man, you let him cook.
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You just let this dude cook and then see what happens.
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Yeah. You got to be there to pick up the pieces.
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You're not going to be able to direct to the train.
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No, there is no conducting this orchestra.
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No, it is whatever is going to happen is just going to happen.
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Yep. And yeah, I think that he's foolish to think he can host,
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even though he outnumbers Alex like four to one, literally four to one,
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perhaps eight men there or something.
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What one of them is Luke Rudowski, Lukeowski,
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however you're supposed to pronounce it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alex's old buddy from We Are Change. Right.
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So you think like maybe this is going to help?
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It's not. Nope.
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Another guy is Ian, who Alex is friends with. Yeah.
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I don't remember why he's come up before in the past, but we've talked about him.
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Yeah. So you think you have like allies? Nope.
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But it doesn't matter. Too weak.
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He's too drunk. Yep. Yep.
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When the sauce takes him, you are along for the ride.
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But it's also interesting,
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like if you play out his fantasy that he's discussing,
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all of these neo cons have giant dicks. Yep.
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And they're all fucking Trump. Yep.
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Like Trump doesn't have agency in this.
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He is the receptive person who this is being done to. Yeah.
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I think Alex needs to recontextualize his world to understand
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that Trump is someone with a dick who's doing the fucking to. Yeah.
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You know, he's he's someone who has its control over what he's doing. Right.
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I think I think a lot of people.
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So with humor for for, you know, for comedians and stuff,
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we've written jokes, we've done all this stuff.
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But for a lot of people experiencing it, I think they see humor as a as like,
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oh, there's some things being hidden, spoken about there,
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which is not always the case.
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But in this case, I think he's saying things that he's not supposed to be saying
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in his in his mind. Sure. You know? Yeah.
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Like this is inhibitions that aren't there.
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And he's not thinking.
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Well, I think part of it is the crassness of it. Sure.
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It's the crass just equals humor. That's definitely true.
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And but whatever. Yeah. Not funny. Nope.
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So they play the clip of Rogan expressing his peace.
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And you just you get the sense that Alex, I don't know if he's even here.
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Here's the story from the Daily Mail.
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Joe Rogan fears White House will be targeted by Iran during UFC event.
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We have a short clip for it's only 40 seconds,
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but we'll play it to give you the context of what Joe was talking about.
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Are you excited for the White House card? That looks really good.
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Yes. I'm excited.
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It's it sounds crazy.
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I know it's going to be very high security and high stress and weird
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to have a fight at the White House in the middle of a fucking war.
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The war will be sorted out by June.
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But quite honestly, I'm not confident that that's going to be the case.
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No. Yeah, no. Yeah. So that would be weird.
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Yeah. Having this very high profile event where everybody's in one place
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at one time right there. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah.
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So you're not excited to be like, yeah, it seems like you're asking for.
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Holy shit. I thought of that at all.
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How could you not think of that?
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Well, because I'm not going to be there. You're the one.
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Because Joe Rogan is the goddess.
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His holy vagina realizes it's a threat.
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I don't I don't I am not really concerned about the White House itself.
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You know, of all the places we secure in this country,
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Iran's not going to do anything at the White House.
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I love Joe, but I mean, that is a major pussy statement. What?
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Where are you, man?
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You're Tim, you're not going to win this.
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No, there's no there's no win.
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You have fucked up. Yeah.
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Eat it. And sort of by acting like you're taking this seriously.
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Yeah, you lose more.
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You dig yourself deeper in the quicksand. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, what do you what do you think? What are you talking about?
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You have a drunk gorilla sitting next to you who really wants to talk about vaginas.
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He just challenged everyone to a fight.
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Oh, fight all of you and Lindsey Graham is a big dick.
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He's not going to be like, oh, I'm sorry.
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Have I gone too far?
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I'll pull it back a little bit.
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I'm doing this for funny
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because funny humor is legal.
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Elon told me there is there is something funny about watching these people
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just really do this to themselves.
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Mm hmm. Wait till wait till the end of this.
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I think you're going to you're going to go on a ride.
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So Alex and Tim and the collection of brilliant minds around the table,
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they're talking about the attacking Iran. Sure.
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And Trump should have done it differently.
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You heard what Rubio said about why we got involved.
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Israel was going to make an attack on Iran.
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We knew that there would be a retaliation targeting the United States.
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So Rubio says we don't want to take a defensive posture.
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So we just had to go in with them.
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And they had testimony in Congress two days ago confirming that.
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Yeah. So Israel made us do this.
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And you know me, I'm not the guy with a hard on for Israel,
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but Israel should not be calling our shots.
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Agreed. And I think Trump should have been like, good luck.
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Yeah, because if they responded and attacked us, then we could have been like,
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hey, we have no choice now. Exactly.
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This makes us look like an aggressor. Exactly.
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We should have taken the attack. Just look like the victims.
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Then blow the show. Exactly.
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You know, and there's the challenge, right?
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Because that's and you know this better than anybody.
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But the Project for a New American Century, when they who was it who said
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April 2020, we need a Pearl Harbor event to launch the American empire.
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And then there was the quote that I think it might have been Rumsfeld saying,
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sometimes we need a terror attack to remind people of what we're protecting them from.
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He said we need three thousand dead.
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So it seems like these are just dumb guys having a dumb conversation.
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But if you know about what Alex is supposed to believe and understand
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what he thinks about the Project for a New American Century,
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this conversation is actually an invalidation of his whole career.
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They're saying it was dumb of the United States to attack Iran
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and get this war going just because they knew that Israel was going to attack Iran.
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What we should have done is let Israel attack, then wait for Iran to attack us,
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which we could then use as a pretext to enter the war
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and not look like people who are itching for a war.
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If you follow their train of thought, they're just saying exactly what
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the evil people who wrote the Project for a New American Century document were saying.
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Yep.
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They were saying that for the public relations purposes,
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it's always better if you can justify your war as being a response to someone else attacking you.
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Yep.
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A war in Iraq would require a Pearl Harbor type event,
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much like World War Two literally required a Pearl Harbor.
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Yep.
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Alex and these idiots are just saying that Trump should have waited for a Pearl Harbor event
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before launching his war in Iran, which is possibly a good PR argument.
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But it's fucking insane to hear conspiracy theorists saying that.
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Yep.
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Let's say that Trump did wait until Iran attacked us before getting involved in the war.
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Then what?
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Are we not supposed to think maybe the attack could be a false flag
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that was done to justify getting us into the war?
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Like, Alex thinks that 9-11 and Pearl Harbor were both false flags.
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So why would this one be any different?
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Yep.
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This is so out of line with the framework that he's built.
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Yeah.
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And he should know that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is like they are cognizant of what they are saying.
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You know, like whenever they're doing this whole, like, the new American century,
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they're also saying that is a good idea, though.
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Yeah.
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You know, like that's the unspoken subtext is these people are brilliant.
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It works.
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Look at how brilliant they are.
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That's why we have to be twice as smart.
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But then they just get here because that's that's just who they are.
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They are their own enemy.
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It's in their heads.
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Right.
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In that clip, I don't really take too much fault with Ian, who is the one
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who said that Trump should have waited until we were attacked.
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And that would justify being involved.
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Sure.
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I don't know enough about him or have any feelings about him.
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So from a neutral standpoint, it is more justified to attack somebody
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after they attack you than the reverse.
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So I take his point as like, fine.
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Sure.
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Alex responds to that by saying exactly.
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And that's the problem.
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Yep.
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From Alex's standpoint, this can't possibly be an acceptable.
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These fucking guys are idiots.
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Yeah, no, it is.
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It is interesting because it feels like what they are doing
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is giving the globalists their best tyrant ideas.
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So then whenever they've got a tyrant, they're just saying exactly
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what their regular that's their idea.
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Sure.
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You know, that's all they've got.
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They don't have better ideas to compete with.
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Nope.
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Well, Alex does have one idea.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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Pretty bad.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, I'll be honest.
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If there was a magic red button to send the muzzles of Mars, I'd hit it.
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That is a bad idea.
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They just put the head of Al Qaeda for Trump got in in charge of Syria.
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Israel created Hamas.
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So here's the deal.
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If we were actually fixing it, I'd be for it.
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Islam's cancer, but we don't fix it.
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We put worse Muslims in.
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So, yeah, Alex wants genocide of Muslims.
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OK, so if we don't fix it.
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We put worse Muslims in.
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That's inevitable, apparently.
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So you'd like to take care of the problem with a solution that's final.
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Yeah.
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You know, you know, like a button that sends them all to Mars.
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Here's here's a question that I have.
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Right.
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If all the Muslims were sent to Mars due to one button press,
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does that make you more or less likely to believe that Allah is the one true God?
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I don't know, but also I think it makes me more likely to think Allah's
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got something going on.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Maybe you're also never going to get rid of all the ideas.
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Yeah, that would be silly.
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Maybe you know what you're going to send all the books to.
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Maybe there'll be some new Muslims that pop up down the road.
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Look, this sucks.
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It just sucks.
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It does suck.
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And Alex is drunk and speaking freely.
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And so he can just be like, yeah, I want them all gone.
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I would love it if they were all gone.
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Yeah, but can you imagine any of these idiots coming up with something
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along the lines of like, well, have we considered talking to them?
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No.
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Well, have we considered?
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Because we considered just kind of Alex
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people, though they're less than human.
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Right.
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You can't talk to them. Right.
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They don't have God's divine spark in them or something.
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Anyway, Tim is like he's sitting there is like, hey,
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everybody's talking about Israel.
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Yeah, Israel is a hot topic in the right wing media.
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Soup's hot. Why is that a good question?
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What's not like the Israel stuff?
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I just retarded.
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I've never been to Israel to do with Israel.
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Any time I feel like it rained today, Israel did it.
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I'm like, well, no, it's just it's like, you know, the reason I ask you
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is because you've got more experience in the independent media space,
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particularly when it comes to government conspiracy, psychological operations
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and all that.
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And, you know, you've been here longer than anybody else.
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And then all of a sudden, over the past six months, there's been this dramatic
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shift online where now everyone's just talking about Israel
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doing everything all the time, like all the conspiracy stuff that you've talked
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about when it comes to liberal economic order, you know,
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Project for New American Century, all that is just gone now.
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No one cares. None of that exists. It's just Israel did it.
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It's because Qatar doesn't.
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Why about they spend like 20 million a year on this?
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And so it doesn't mean that about Israel is it true?
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They have changed the whole subject into that instead of China
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and the EU trying to censor Americans.
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So I like the US, such a right to give on mosque with huge fines or Brazil.
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Shut up, Israel.
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So it's kind of like a public woke up like a baby duck
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kind of in principle, first thing you see.
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So the public woke up.
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And so the Muslim Brotherhood, which Qatar funds, said,
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oh, the first thing you see is Israel.
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It's so funny to hear Tim desperately trying to take this idiot
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sitting in front of him seriously.
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Alex is a clown.
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He sounds like he's dying and he's clearly drunk.
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Why the fuck would anyone think he has a good answer to the question?
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What's up with this Israel stuff?
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What a ridiculous concept.
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But since Tim asked, I'll go ahead and answer it for him.
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OK, it's Trump's fault.
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And to some extent, Alex's and his own.
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Yep. The right wing media audience has always been comprised
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mostly of two sides.
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One is right wing politically, and the other is just racists and anti-Semites.
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These groups don't like each other and tend not to get along.
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So in 2016, it was hard to come up with a candidate
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who could build up the kind of coalition that could compete
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with a decent Democratic candidate.
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Bush had really ruined a lot of that that cohesiveness.
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The media surrogates that promoted Trump made sure to promise
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both sides of the audience that Trump would be the exact guy
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they've been waiting for.
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To the right wing folks, he looked like a guy who would lower taxes
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and slash all public assistance programs.
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To the racists, he looked like the guy who would guarantee
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a white majority in the country.
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Trump looked like the compromise candidate for people
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who couldn't come to a compromise.
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And because he had a penchant for acting dictatorially,
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both of these sides didn't really see any reason
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that he couldn't fulfill their agendas.
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But as it turns out, Trump sucks.
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He can't get shit done, and he's doing the same or worse things
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that other politicians have done in the past.
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He's covering up the Epstein stuff so transparently
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that he had to run his top ally out of Congress
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because you wouldn't shut up about it.
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He's changed two regimes in the past few months
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with the rippling consequences of those actions still to be seen.
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We have no fucking idea what's going to come from that.
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Nope.
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They promised that Trump was going to be different,
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that he was going to get things done,
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and they wasted the whole, it was the deep state narrative
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in the first administration.
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Now there's no one left to blame,
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and everyone is coming to realize that Trump sucks.
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Much like they did with the deep state in the first term,
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the Trump-leaning media folks are desperate to come up
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with a new story to tell, one that doesn't end up revealing
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they sold their audience years of lies about an asshole.
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And the current one is that it's all Israel.
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Israel obviously deserves criticism,
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and I'm not saying that their government isn't involved in Trump's decisions,
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but the reason that the media landscape that Alex and Tim operate in
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is so full of Israel stuff is because it's become clear that Trump sucks.
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And blaming everything on Israel is the new way for the dipshits in that media
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to continue profiting and avoid self-reflection and realizing,
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oh, we were had, this is our fault, we fucked over our own audiences.
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Whoops.
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Whoops-a-doodle.
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Yeah, that's why.
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Tim.
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Yeah.
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Tim.
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Yeah, you know, I wonder if people
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just like different flavors of Nazi, you know, like,
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I want to get rid of all the Muslims.
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Aha, I want to get rid of all the Jews.
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You guys are the same guy.
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Right.
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Like, you know you're the same guy, right?
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Right.
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Like, I think that this this is something that is so,
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you know, that
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we've talked about it before.
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The fundamental argument that like Nick and Alex have, Nick Fuentes and Alex
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have is whether or not Jewish people can be white. Right.
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And that is different schools of their Nazism.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's that's different flavors.
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Alex believes they can be white if they convert to Christianity.
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And yeah, Nick thinks not.
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That's basically so.
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I hate I hate pretend.
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Yeah.
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I here's here's what I think.
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All right.
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I just think that all those people who lost their jobs
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a while back should just get those back. Right.
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Which ones?
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You know, like the university professors who are like, hey,
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maybe Israel shouldn't be doing this.
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And they were like, yeah, you can't have a job anymore.
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Just give them their job back.
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After after Israel did the thing, just give them their job back.
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Fine. You know, like we just we just call that one even.
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Well, that's taken on a case by case basis because I don't
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know who all of these professors were, but I'm sure some of them were
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a wrongly determined.
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I'm sure of that.
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I get that.
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Anyway, the topic of a Jewish Messiah comes up.
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And man, when you are going to do when you have a subject like this,
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who you want in the room is Tim motherfucking Poole.
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Ian, the guy who's weird.
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Luke are and a very drunk Alex.
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Why not just have fun with a drunk guy?
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Why are we pretending?
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Because I think this is how they have fun.
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Oh, my God. Let's jump to this story.
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We got this video that's going viral from Mario Knafel.
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He says Netanyahu, quote, We will make it to the return of the Messiah,
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but this will not happen next Thursday.
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And so this video has been been making the rounds, of course,
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has got four hundred thousand views.
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And there was an article written a few days ago.
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Israel is gripped by messianic fervor for biblical war.
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Now, there's another video that's massively going viral where the
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everyone's saying that he said return of the Messiah as if to imply
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he believes in Jesus Christ.
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When you actually choose Jewish Messiah.
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No, no, it says return.
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The Jews believe the Messiah has not come.
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So if Netanyahu says the return of the Messiah,
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that means he thinks the Messiah has already been here.
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Did he say that? So here's here's here's what I've what I've found in the transcript.
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When you when you ask for a translation through Grok or whatever, it says the
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in Hebrew, the in what he is speaking, it can be paraphrased either way,
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as in the era of the Messiah or the return of well, David was a Messiah.
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So he returns the Jewish law.
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They do believe that David was a Messiah.
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He was the art. It was the art. Yeah, it was the precursor.
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I thought I thought they haven't had their Messiah yet.
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No, but it's all David was a Messiah.
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He returns. Well, either way, either way.
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No. So the research that Tim did on this story is to ask Grok,
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and he seems unsure what language they're even translating.
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I have no confidence in these dudes.
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No, this really shouldn't be this unsure of a thing like an issue when
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they're they shouldn't have this level of uncertainty.
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They're talking about issues related to the Messiah.
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And Alex, like, pretends to talk to God.
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And Tim is treating this like a top story.
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Yeah, that he should have done a little bit of legwork on.
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This is especially embarrassing for Alex,
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who's confidently saying that the Jewish Messiah is David. Yep.
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That is not true.
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But many followers of Judaism believe that the coming Messiah
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will be from the Davidic line.
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So a descendant of David, I guess we do know that Alex believes that,
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like, you're magically the same as your ancestors. Right.
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So we could give him this one on a crazy person technicality. Sure.
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Like, yeah, all descendants of David are David.
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If you accept that his words have no meaning,
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but sometimes they might rhyme with each other, then yes. Yeah.
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I will say that he might be consistent here.
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I was just listening to this and I'm like, guys, why are you even what is happening?
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Why are you even trying to approach this subject?
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Do you don't you you're stupid.
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You didn't look into it. And your guest is drunk.
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What are we? Yeah. What are you doing?
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Talk about football or anything, you know, something about.
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Yeah, like this this seems insane to me.
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I've I've I've had multiple classes where the professor was drunk
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trying to teach the class and I just disregarded it.
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I wasn't like, well, maybe I'll get some new information now.
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Conversely, I've had some teachers that were drunk and did better.
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That's possible. It unlocked the next level.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Finally, you're kind of opening up socially and we can kind of connect
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with each other. You need some expertise for it to be under that booze.
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Yeah. Anyway, Luke,
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last name redacted.
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He brings up Albert Pike. OK.
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And like apparently he knew all about these world wars
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that were going to be coming.
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And unfortunately, Tim does a little googling.
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Yeah, wars are meant to be continued.
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And there's a lot of soldiers that are literally talking about this
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being a holy war for them so they could bring in the third temple.
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Albert Pike talked about a lot of this stuff.
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1871, he wrote a letter about World War Three, and it's absolutely crazy.
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1871, you're about World War Three. Yes.
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Well, this is the first time you tell anybody about it.
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No, he talked about World War One.
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He talked about World War Two and talked about World War Three.
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And he talked about the Jews fighting, fighting the Muslims
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in this world that will bring in the demon,
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will bring in the kind of demonic order.
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So this is this is
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I mean, I've been talking about this for about 12 years.
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I did a video with David Icke about this.
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Real quick, just don't forget what you're going to say.
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Albert Pike statue was torn down by anti racism protesters
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in the George Floyd riots.
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Of course, that's not a surprise there at all.
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Oh, well, yeah.
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They're trying to present it as some kind of like, oh, he was a visionary
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and the woke mom had to take down.
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Well, he was the head of the KKK, the head of the KKK.
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I mean, even Drunk Alex knows this.
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God damn. Just unreal.
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This feels crazy.
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It is. It genuinely feels like an assault on reality.
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Yeah. And and like I said, by the end of this, you'll feel even worse.
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I believe it. There's so much roller coaster, windy road to go.
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I'm struggling to process that this is something they continue doing.
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Yeah. It seems like something like I
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puzzled by why people would listen to our show. Yeah.
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I don't really fully understand that.
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But I really don't understand why someone really don't understand this.
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I think that we have a little bit more.
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I think it's a little more interesting.
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I would I hope. Yeah.
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At the very least, we've got chops. Something. Yeah. Right.
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So Alex, Alex is, you know, obviously Trump is bad.
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He's getting
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but but done by the neocons. Sure.
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And there are 12 foot dicks.
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Joe Rogan's vagina.
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We you know, he's covering up Epstein.
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You're going to war with Iran. All this stuff. Broken the Constitution.
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But also like we should be so grateful for him.
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That's nice. Trump isn't perfect.
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And I've been to him all day.
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But we should bitch about Democrats way more because we have to remember
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where we were. What are they going to do?
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They get back in power.
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Well, Luke made a really good point about what's going on.
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Do you want to do you want to make that point about the trap?
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Yeah, no, I believe the little bit of free speech that we have is essentially
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the cheese on the on the rat trap that all of us are now engaging in.
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And it's going to close behind us.
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As of course, a lot of people are using it to its fullest potential.
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But I see it as a trap. That's what it feels like to me.
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That's what my instincts feel like,
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because I saw how the Internet was all the way in 2006.
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I saw the trap. I talked about the trap all the way in 2008.
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I said, we're going to lose our free speech.
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We lost our free speech.
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That's the thing. Yeah, we are taking Trump for granted.
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Well, those problems.
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What is going to happen?
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The Democrats get back in.
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We should be talking about we are all we're free now.
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Oh, I'm so bad on YouTube.
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But the point is, imagine when they get back and take a piss with that.
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I got a bit back.
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It just out of nowhere.
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Boom. Where did it go?
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He was our star guest. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, it turns out drunk people have to pee a lot.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So, yeah, apparently free speech is a trap.
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We should be grateful for Trump. And Alex has got to pee.
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I love that.
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I love the least specific series of sounds that I've heard somebody make before.
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I remember the Internet in 2006.
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I think free speech is a trap.
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Now here we are.
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I don't I genuinely don't know what he's talking about.
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I think that he's ironically talking about the same stuff
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we're hearing Alex talk about in 2006. Right.
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When we go back, like the idea that Myspace is a trap.
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Yeah. You know, like, yeah, you go on there and you can become reliant on it.
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Sure. Interact with people. Sure.
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But you do you do so at the pleasure of Rupert Murdoch.
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Naturally. That's the trap that closes behind you.
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Right. That like his censorship. Right.
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You have to follow those rules or else you lose your Myspace page. Right.
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I think that's what he's talking about.
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OK, so then the trap is a little bit of free speech. Mm hmm.
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So who's who's snapping the trap on you?
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The people who own those social media networks.
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OK. And stuff, I think.
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I think. All right. I'm doing some work for sure.
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No, I mean, if he owes you money.
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What's your hourly rate?
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Because he owes you. No, he doesn't owe me anything.
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He owes Alex in 2006 something. Sure.
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They were already doing this like this kind of like, hey,
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don't trust social media. Well, you did. Yeah, you did.
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That's why we're here.
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Listen to your own advice. And now you're an idiot.
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That is kind of the problem. Yes. Yeah.
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So they Alex goes to pee and they talk about the UK.
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And I wish it had I wish the mic was on.
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Oh, that would be good. That would be so great.
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That would just be great. It would be great.
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Unfortunately. No, I actually think fortunately,
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because whatever is going on in there can't sound can't sound good.
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No, no. But it'd be very funny.
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So he comes back fucking wasted. Yeah.
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They're talking about the UK stuff in the House of Lords. Yeah.
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And he's cool, man.
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I think this is a good thing.
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This is something that they started in 1999,
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the reform process of getting the hereditary peers out of office.
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They left 92 people in.
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And I think this is because of people like Tommy Robinson.
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They like they're moving away from.
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Why do you think it's very monarchy?
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Why do you think it's good?
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Because I don't think your birth you should be born into power like that.
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I don't think you should you should have a title passed down to your son.
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It should be democratic.
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Why not? Because you got what you want the best from your society,
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not the king's kid necessarily.
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Well, the point is Joe Rogan's vagina
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is this giant mothership that protects the earth.
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The shield against all the Satanism is Joe Rogan's vagina.
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Hey, Alex, do you think that it's a good thing that UK
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is getting rid of hereditary parliament?
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The House of Lords.
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The fact is they're getting rid of it to turn it over to the globalists.
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Yep. And Islam and the mayor of London, all that it's totally discussing.
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You see this? Oh boy.
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So you could one of the things that I think is interesting
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that's illustrated in that clip is like
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the two people who are talking are idiots. Yeah.
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But at least they're having a conversation.
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They're discussing why it would or would not be better to have hereditary rule.
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Sure. One of them is taking the side of it is better.
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One is taking the side of not right.
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And they're at least discussing the pros and cons of this in a way
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that if you're listening, hey, maybe it might spark some thoughts in your head.
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Maybe Alex comes in and he ruins it. Yes, he does.
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Vaginas again. Yeah.
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Alex makes it so those conversations, even if they're dumb, aren't possible.
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Yeah. Yeah. He's he is the void
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where conversation gets sucked into.
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I mean, it's like, you know, you know, sometimes whenever you're doing
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a three man game, you know, not all of you know exactly when the time to speak is.
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So sometimes you'll leave a little space for the third man or, you know,
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whoever's got some time.
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But if they don't know what they're doing or if they're not ready for it,
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you might get some dead air. Right.
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That would be better than what Alex does. Yes.
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Yes, it would.
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You know how they say that, like,
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what is it, white is the combination of all colors, black, the abs, whatever.
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Whichever you choose. Alex is the absence of thought. Yeah.
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Like there is just not thought here. Yeah.
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And listening to him stops you from thinking. Yeah.
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And that's that's a high compliment for me to be giving the other co-hosts.
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Right. Tim Pool's show. Right.
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I know, which sucks, because this does seem like a moment for Alex
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to go full Americana and be like, get the fuck out of my country, Tim Pool.
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You want hereditary bullshit? Fuck off.
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Go work for King George, you piece of shit.
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Well, it's interesting because this is where Tim starts to express
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a desire for a fucking loyalist.
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He's a monarch. He's a fucking monarchist.
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Yes. Go join the redcoats, shitbird.
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I think the argument against hereditary rule is propaganda and largely myth.
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I think that all leaders have a
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have a possibility of going sour or being bad.
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The point is, though, they're giving up the hereditary rule to the Islamic
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and the globalists. That is the point.
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So if they give it back to the British people, we're all pro-Britain.
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It'd be fine. It's not. It's about globalist capitulation.
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Indeed. So getting rid of the House of Lords is not about having democracy.
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And it's about saying we need to rip the British people from control of this government.
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They're not getting rid of the House of Lords.
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What are you talking about? This is silly.
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This is nonsense.
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But also like, duh.
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It's so clear what you're talking about. Yeah.
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Which is you prefer monarchy.
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That's white to a multicultural society.
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Obviously. Where there's power that's shared. Right.
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Among peers. You like he.
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OK, I'm going to go ahead and say this.
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I don't think these people understand necessarily
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that monarchs are not from necessarily the place that they're ruling. Hmm.
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Well, but do they?
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So like if you're saying I'm getting rid of the House of Lords,
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yeah, that's bringing it back to the people.
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But also like, yeah, if you if you want monarchy,
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then get ready for the possibility of becoming a serf.
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You know, like it'd be absurd.
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No, to then then shit, then throw away the Constitution.
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There's no way to have a constitutional republic and a monarchy at the same time.
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That's not how it works.
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No. And I think that that is what is underneath this conversation is that Tim
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and I think to his credit, Ian, maybe not fully on board with this. Yeah.
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But Tim and Alex would prefer an ethnic
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dictatorship and monarchy to a constitutional republic
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that exists in a way where everyone has rights. Yes, that is absolutely
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that is what is underneath their conversation. Right.
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And yeah, they they are.
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Yeah, I mean, out of line.
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That's that's I would say that that's fine
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if you believe that and you've come to that conclusion.
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I guess that's fine.
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That's that's for your view to come to.
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But you can't then also be an American.
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No, that's the that's the rule of the country.
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Did you read the Declaration of Independence and and like, just say it?
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Just be honest about what it is you want.
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I want King George to come back to life and reconquer the United States of America
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so we can finally get rid of those Native Americans and all be white forever.
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Great. Yeah, that's what you believe.
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I'm not arguing. There you go.
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We'll just kick your ass.
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Yeah, that's that's how we that's how we started the fight in the first place.
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Yeah. So Tim seems to be in favor of monarchies.
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There's there's a history of when the king would have a would find a wife
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and it wasn't inbreeding and had a son.
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The son was educated, trained, would be a military leader.
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And they said, you have to be someone who can lead the people and serve.
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It wasn't like your regulations, you're rich from now on and can do whatever you want.
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Yes, it was.
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The British people looked at her as someone who dedicated her life to service to them.
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And many of them, when you actually ask them, they view it as I get to live my life
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free from the trials and tribulations of foreign war and conflict.
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They're replacing it with Islamic rule.
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Is that proven?
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Well, I think literally the Muslims are taking over.
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If you take a look what's going on, I just want to see the evidence of that, because
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that's an interesting.
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So let me let me let me.
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Charles is literally a Muslim.
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Hey, man, no bless oblige.
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You know, like the, you know, the nobles, they are heroes, really.
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They're working for us at all times.
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Tim, come on.
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I'm in a fucking community play of Guildenstern and fucking are dead.
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Like, these are the three dumbest people I've ever heard speak to each other.
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I'm in a fucking community play of Guildenstern and fucking are dead.
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They speak to each other.
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No, but isn't it fascinating how Ian will at least be like, hold on a second.
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Yeah, that is crazy.
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He gives up fast.
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Yeah, he does.
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At least be like, yeah, I'm not sure.
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What are you thinking?
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Yeah.
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Has that been proven?
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Absolutely.
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What are you talking about?
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What are you doing?
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What is happening here?
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I think Ian is controlled opposition in the sense that, like, he's there to say those
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things.
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He's the Colmes in the Hannity and Colmes.
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Yeah.
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But also just give up immediately.
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Yeah.
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So Tim's point doesn't seem threatened.
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Jesus Christ.
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It's embarrassing all around.
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See, here's the thing about monarchists is that their kids are raised to be good kings.
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It's an obligation that they have.
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It would be insane if you were to go back through any sort of monarchy, literally any
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one of them, pick any one of them.
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You will never see nepotism being a problem.
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No.
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Guarantee it.
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No, usually when, you know, there aren't bastard children, I think he might be thinking of
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Game of Thrones.
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I think he's absolutely thinking of Game of Thrones.
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But yeah, when the kid is good and of good stock and born in the way that God intended
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him to be, that kid understands.
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Exactly.
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They exist to serve the people.
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Right.
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So you gotta push them out of a tower and then they become the three-eyed raven and
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then they'll be a good ruler.
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I think that makes perfect sense.
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If that's your argument, I can't find holes in it.
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Yeah.
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So the reason that this needs to happen, we need to go back to kings or something, is
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because they're getting rid of the House of Lords in order to make Islam in charge of
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the UK.
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And Ian has been like, what's the evidence of this?
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That's a good question.
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And here's what Tim says.
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Okay.
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So let me extrapolate.
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Let me show you.
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Charles has literally endorsed Islam.
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And outside of, let's not have a direct claim, let's put it like this.
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If you are Muslim in the UK and you say horrifying things, you don't get punished for it.
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If you are a British and you post online-
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You pray quietly in front of abortion clinic three years in prison.
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Yep.
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There was a woman who was standing outside an abortion clinic saying nothing and doing
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nothing.
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And the police came up and said, what are you doing?
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He said, nothing.
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And they said, are you praying?
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And she goes, in my mind, you're under arrest.
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So when they allow people-
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Three years in prison.
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Sounds true to me.
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Muslims to pray in the street.
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The Muslims now go around saying no dogs at parks.
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Now they're passing laws in the UK, no dogs.
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Yeah.
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So that's where you get the perception that Islam is taking over the UK.
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But if the king, so is the king sold out?
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Yes.
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The king can shut this down.
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The king can actually overrule this parliamentary-
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Yeah, the king is Jimmy Savelle.
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It's beyond Jeffrey Epstein.
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Okay, man.
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So this show is basically like a chain email your grandma would get back in the day.
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Hearing these supposedly rational humans talking with this severely intoxicated elderly man
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is just depressing.
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Seeing this tone is like, you guys, come on.
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This is crazy.
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So this is about a woman named Isabel Voss Bruce, and she didn't do years in jail for
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praying outside an abortion clinic.
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She's a long time abortion protester, and she uses a strategy of violating the legally
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required buffer zones outside of these clinics as what you probably call civil disobedience.
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She's been arrested for it a couple times, and earlier this year she was awarded 13,000
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pounds for an unlawful arrest that she was the subject of in one of these instances.
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So rather than what Alex is saying where she's going to go to jail forever, the state paid
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her 13,000 pounds.
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Right.
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That seems like a very different ... So in terms of if the Muslims are taking over, I
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don't think she would have gotten 13,000 pounds.
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No, they conveniently leave that part out of this story.
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It seems very convenient that they left it out.
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Civil disobedience is an important protest tactic.
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So if she believes that there shouldn't be buffer zones around abortion clinics, then
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her silent prayer within those zones is a legitimate way for her to express that.
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She knows she's breaking an existing law, and she knows what the consequences for that
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will be, which she's accepted in advance.
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The punishment is part of the protest and why she's doing this thing to begin with.
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That's the idea.
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But when people like Alex and Tim start discussing her actions, they rob it of all meaning, because
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they have to rob it of the intent.
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She went to a buffer zone that she knew she wasn't allowed to hang out in, but in order
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to use her story as evidence of the horrible attack on Christianity and proof that the
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Muslims have taken over the UK, she needs to be a completely blameless person who is
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just there minding her own business.
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And that's not fair to her.
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It's not fair to the political statement that she's making.
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They are disrespectful to literally everybody in this story.
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Yeah.
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It does concern me how few of those types of people like her recognize that she does
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not exist to the people that she believes supports her.
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It is a weird paradox that all of these people feel as though they have the support of people
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who clearly view them as non-humans.
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No, they're props.
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They want to use you as a prop.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It is strange.
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I think Geoff Dunham's puppets are also like, man, we're having a great time.
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You know?
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They're not real.
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Jalapeno on a stick?
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That's what I'm saying, right?
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Like, Jalapeno on a stick doesn't have its life stolen from it.
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It's just a puppet.
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True.
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True.
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So it doesn't have to be concerned with whether or not these people are evil.
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Nope.
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Yeah.
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But I think the kind of double-edged nature of this is that I don't think that even these
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people like Alex and Tim misusing her activism, I don't think that she would do anything differently.
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Sure.
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It's just that she's not in control of the way that it's being misused.
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There's a disconnect.
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Yeah.
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I would imagine that were the awareness there, it would feel different.
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She would change her behaviors.
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Maybe.
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No, I don't think so.
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I don't know about that.
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Maybe she would argue with Tim and Alex.
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I don't know.
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Maybe she wouldn't.
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I don't know anything about her other than the tiny bit.
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Anyway, Tim does not believe in America.
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He thinks that you should have to have been born here and your parents and grandparents
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be born here in order for you to run for office.
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So we were talking about hereditary rule going away in the UK.
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I would just put it like this.
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There's no guarantee that someone inheriting office just based on who their parents are
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is going to protect your rights.
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But I would argue it is substantially more likely that a Virginian from Virginia who
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is 6th, 7th generation is going to say we have a constitutional right to keep and bear
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arms and someone who's not from the United States is going to say I don't care.
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Do you think we should ban non-U.S. citizens from running for Senate or Congress at all?
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I do.
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I do.
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I do.
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Non-citizens?
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Absolutely not.
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Not natural born.
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I believe you must.
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We know not to vote for foreigners.
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I believe that you should have to be born here to run for office period.
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Okay.
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You don't agree with a lot of the things that apparently we're supposed to have been founded
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on.
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Yeah.
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Cool, man.
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I would like my money back from school.
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From all school that I've ever been to, I would like my money back because what they
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told me is apparently wildly incorrect.
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Well, no.
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I think Tim is wildly incorrect.
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Sure.
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But it feels like these are the people who have all the power.
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I think that some of these ideas are more ascendant right now than they should be.
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But I don't think that they're representative of the country that I grew up in and the country
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that we aspire to be and that we were taught we were going towards.
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There's no reason why this has to be ascendant.
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There's no reason why this has to take power.
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It just sucks that it kind of is now.
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So yeah, sixth generation Virginians, those are the people who should be allowed to run
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for office, I think are being a little bit obvious here.
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You know, I just know what I love most about these people and their ideology is for all
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the things that we disagree on, we both agree on a meritocracy.
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And a big tent.
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Absolutely.
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If you are good at something, then you should be rewarded and encouraged to do that.
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None of that DEI stuff.
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No, no, no, absolutely not.
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You shouldn't just give somebody something because of the color of their skin or because
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they're related to somebody or something along those lines.
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I remember when people were screaming about DEI.
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Yeah, I do.
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So the conversation goes on and then a horror strikes the proceedings.
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This is this was this is hard to hear.
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And I mean that literally and metaphorically.
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Okay.
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Luke is right.
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I think they opened the door and said everyone come on through and they're going to try and
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drop the guillotine on everybody in the next year or so.
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Democrats win the midterms.
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That censorship is going to come back tenfold.
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Yep, maybe.
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Yeah, all these conservatives are like, oh, we're we won.
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Everything's great.
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No, we haven't.
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We have like three or two years is next tomorrow.
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Do you see any other future than the A.I. overlord machine state?
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If humans learn to recognize authentic human stuff and promote it, we win.
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And he gets he can see what's real, what's not real.
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Well how do you know?
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Fifty two.
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Ninety two.
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You get.
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You're right.
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I'm tired.
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Yeah, no, we're winning.
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Feels like it.
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What the fuck was that?
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Yeah.
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So Alex having a huge coughing fit and then saying I'm tired is just amazing timing.
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He doesn't mean for that to be funny, but it's gold.
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I think he's dying.
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And that would be sad.
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But I'm more interested in the idea that Tim starts that clip off with.
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That has to do with Luke's theorizing that the free speech stuff that the MAGA folks
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have been pushing is a trap.
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They complain that they're being censored everywhere on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter,
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so they end up going to Rumble and Elon buys Twitter to turn it into a safe space for racists.
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But that's the trap.
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Once they get there, they shut the back door and you're screwed.
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Right.
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And what's funny is because, as we talked about earlier, it's exactly what Alex was
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saying about Myspace in 2006.
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It's funny because they're kind of right, but not because any like censorship conspiracy
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theory.
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Rather, it's because how the it's the business model.
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Social media relies on large user bases in order to make profit off advertising and selling
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your data.
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So if there's a bunch of people on one platform, you need to give them a reason to migrate
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to your platform.
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You can't say what you want over there is a really compelling argument for people who
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want to say offensive shit.
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So it's very useful to get more users onto your site away from another site.
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But once your platform grows enough, you start to realize the importance of marketing and
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advertising in terms of your profits.
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And you can you can only get a certain level of advertiser on board if your site is full
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of slurs and racist cartoons.
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There is that.
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If you want actual stable, reliable companies to advertise with you, you will need to have
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some form of moderation or censorship, which is the springing of the trap that Luke is
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talking about.
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These guys are basically just toothless rebels where they want all the benefits of social
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media, but they can't stand the awareness that by being in their space, they're cogs.
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They kind of understand that if they weren't able to post clickbait shit to hijack people's
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attention on social media, they'd have no careers.
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So they have to be cogs.
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But they're not like all the other dumb cogs.
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All you other dumb cogs who are part of the machine using social media and like being
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the people whose attention we hijack, you people are trapped.
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Yep.
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I'm the one who's going into this with my eyes open.
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I'm making a deal with the devil.
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Say what you want about that.
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But you know what that does?
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It makes me equal with the devil.
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Sure it does.
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These idiots, they're just being taken advantage of by the devil.
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They're being conned by the devil.
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That's pathetic.
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It's just pathetic.
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It's fun how the devil lets you think that, huh?
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It is weird how the devil only chooses you to do that, but everybody else, he does the
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thing.
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I bet they think something similar.
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So that coughing fit was gross.
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That probably sounded like death.
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Yeah.
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It sounded like a person not just coughing, but also not being able to breathe.
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Nope.
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And you can tell that a fear enters the room.
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It entered me.
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These guys are pretty scared.
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Okay.
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So the reason I ask you is because I think the younger generation is going to be put
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in the Matrix.
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They're going to be given the neural link.
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They're going to be plugged in and they're going to choose to play video games all day
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where they can be wizards fighting dragons.
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Me and Dan were actually talking about this morning, Dan Holloway's podcast.
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And it's super important that people not decide to not be active in the real world.
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Yeah.
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Allergy attack.
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Come on, man.
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There's something, it's really messed up.
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And I think that Alex does say, he mumbles there like, I'm going to leave in a minute.
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And there's a feeling that everyone has that's like, what the fuck is going on here?
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What the fuck is going on here?
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Is he going to die in front of us?
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It'd be interesting.
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Is he going to leave?
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He's supposed to be here for the whole show.
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It's supposed to be three hours long.
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We're like an hour in.
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Now that's a viral moment.
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If Alex dies on your show live, that's going to go viral.
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Holy shit.
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It's gross too.
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It's audibly gross.
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Oh, it's disgusting.
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It's tough to look at.
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I'm shocked that you had to look at it.
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I'm like, oof.
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I looked away.
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Gross.
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But there's some inspirational messages that this other host is trying to make about kids
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can't choose to not be in the real world.
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We have to be in the real world or else we'll not be in the real world.
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And then Alex interrupts him.
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You have to make the decision to go out and do things that are hard.
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You have to make the decision to go out and do things that challenge you because that's
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how you grow and that's how you make your life better.
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If you just say, oh, I'm going to sit around and play video games and not actually be active
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in life, you're going to end up with a whole generation of just people that are in the
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pod and it's going to be the end of society.
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You ever ask a question right about the lousy attack?
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I'm sorry?
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Humanity's powerful.
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We're going to win.
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But yeah, the citrus has been incredible.
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The citrus has been totally insane and we're going to win the end.
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So it doesn't matter.
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I hope so.
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I've grown quite fond of living.
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Good for you.
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I think that guy, like for as much as this show is dumb and banal and boring, I think
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that listening to that guy talk about you need to be in the real world and have some
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challenges and rise to the occasion or else you're living in a pod and a false reality.
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I'd listen to that.
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That guy had something that was at least a thought.
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And then Alex comes in with a...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It feels like this is abuse.
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I know someone is being abused.
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I know multiple people are being abused, but I am not sure who or what is at fault.
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I just know that it hurts me personally.
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I think that Tim Pool entered this interview on Good Faith, that he just thought he was
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going to have Alex Jones on.
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Then Alex showed up wasted and he just decided to roll with it.
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And at this point, it's unethical to be interviewing him in this state.
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Absolutely.
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We talked about this on the episode where Alex was like blackout, calling Paul Joseph
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Watson like the Goblin King and all that stuff.
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And at that point in our tenure of doing this show, I think I was very sensitive to Alex's
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like, hey, you got to protect him from being on air like this.
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This isn't okay.
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This is another human being.
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Now I don't care.
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No, you got to protect yourself from Alex being on air like this.
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This is your show.
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I supremely don't care that Alex is incapacitated on this show.
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But if I'm running the show, I'm going, well, fuck that guy.
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I don't want him on my show.
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It kind of makes you look bad that this is a guest that would be appealing to you.
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It makes you look bad that you've ever taken him seriously in the past.
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So it peels back layers of the onion that you really don't want.
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It's a bad booking.
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Yeah.
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And you think that maybe it could go all right at the beginning.
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I suppose.
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I mean, it's not the first time he's showed up somewhere drunk.
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You're not wrong.
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It's just bad.
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This one's bad.
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Yeah.
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I mean, once you hear that coughing fit, though.
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That was bad.
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There's no hard liquor that's going to make your esophagus more comfortable.
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That's not how esophaguses work.
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Esophagi.
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Esophagi.
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I'm not a soft guy.
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So Alex, there's something physical going on.
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But it's also kind of mental.
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Like Ian, I think is very dumb.
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And Alex can't really even keep up with his train of thought.
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It makes me think that like, okay, there's people that want to evolve humans into a machine
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to upload their consciousness in a machine, become the uber man in a machine that at some
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point that's like a microcosm of the spirits that have put their consciousness into humans
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to evolve to the next phase of spirit.
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Which is right a copy what's already there.
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And does that mean that there were evil spirits that thought no, we'll be human.
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It's even better.
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And that's why there's this demonic fluidity through humanity is that it's going against
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the plan.
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So it's human and aberration that wouldn't it's copy God's plan.
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We're all avatars were already possessed.
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Exactly.
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It's jacking into that.
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And the AI is just another evolution of that.
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AI is our collective unconscious through computers.
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So we see it.
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It's like the looking in the water.
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It's the narcissism.
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But then when humans be the narcissism of the spirit.
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Yeah, that's the parrot.
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Because I think humans are good.
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But then I see us we have to kill to survive like how horrible we see the mistake you're
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making is that you would have to kill them to survive.
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And you have a myopic view of reality that killing is inherently bad.
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Murder is bad because it's a reckless killing for no reason.
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But killing an animal to eat it is not bad.
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In fact, it is good.
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So Tim at least is engaging with the thought that Ian is saying.
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So the two of them have a stupid standing around with a bong in a basement kind of conversation
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and great, good for them.
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It's awesome.
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Alex was like not even there.
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No, like he wasn't following what Ian was saying.
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His answers were like, okay.
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Yep.
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Well, then what?
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He didn't seem to understand that follow up questions were possible.
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That was scary.
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Yeah.
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I'm trying to diagram this in my head.
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I'm trying to parse it, right?
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Because we got drunk Alex again.
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Shit man.
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You can't be mad.
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He is shit.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, hey, shit man's there.
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We're shitty.
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We're all possessed.
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Right.
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So I don't think that thought.
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Okay.
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The thought process and the thought train and the things that he was thinking about
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are dumb, but whatever.
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We all think dumb things, right?
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That he's asking Alex genuinely like, well, what do you think about that?
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Instead of going, well, you're shit faced.
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I don't care.
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You know, that is 10 times dumber.
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But then to have Tim Pool come in, like the exact same level of dumb, but he's got glasses
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on.
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So he's like, no, I'm secretly smart.
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And I'm sober.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Right.
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Like that's where we're at.
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With like these three people are trying to behave as though they're each on the podium
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of stupid, you know?
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And like Alex is the dumb one.
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He's number one.
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Ian's number two.
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And then Tim Pool is at a distant third.
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But they're all flat.
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It's all the same flat way.
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I disagree.
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Maybe you zoom out far enough, it's all flat.
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But they're different.
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I agree they're different.
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Alex is chaotic stupid.
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Yes.
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I agree.
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Ian is inquisitive.
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Maybe you're not such a bad guy, stupid.
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And Tim Pool is, I don't believe anything pay me stupid.
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He is the dumbest motherfucker.
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So they are different in ways.
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Sure.
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I understand.
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I'm just saying that their levels of stupidity are competing with each other and they have
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tied.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Quantitatively and quantitatively they might be different.
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They might, yes.
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Qualitatively.
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Even split.
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Who knows?
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex has got to go.
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And I totally understand this.
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When I'm talking to Jet-GPT, I'm questioning whether there's any consciousness.
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And to be honest, it's the exact same as when I'm talking to Robbie.
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Oh yeah, where is that?
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He's in the bathroom.
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He may be developing sentience.
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Tim, how long are you in town?
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A couple weeks.
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I want to come back.
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You can come back whenever you want.
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Just let me wait a few days.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm having some forehand when I'm exhausted.
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Yes, you sound exhausted.
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I love you guys.
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All I know is this is a real debate.
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And I really appreciate you guys.
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And I just know that Joe Rogan's a giant pussy.
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Aye!
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Call back.
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Full circle.
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Joe Rogan's vagina is like the goddess that will float down and heal the earth.
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Do you think Media Matters will write this headline?
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Of course.
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No, this one they're going to avoid.
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No, I think we should...
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Whoa.
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I think we should have...
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Buddy.
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So he leaves.
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Yeah, good call.
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Gracefully.
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Don't tell me he comes back.
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No.
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Okay.
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But like, I...
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I...
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It pains me to listen to Tim Pool after Alex has left.
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But you gotta see if he has shit to say, right?
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And does he ever.
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Oh, does he?
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A little bit after Alex leaves.
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Here's where we're at.
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Alright.
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Whoever wields it controls it.
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I just gotta...
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I wanna say this, cause with all due respect to Alex, I think he was having a very serious
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medical issue.
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I don't know.
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He definitely was...
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He had some bad allergies, yeah.
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Some bad allergies.
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Well, an allergy attack...
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That was...
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That was a little concerned.
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He was coughing.
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That was more than an allergy attack.
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Yeah, that's why one got water and tried...
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I mean, the chat was blowing up saying like, a bunch of stuff, but I wanna be respectful
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and not say too much, and I had my phone ready with...
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Again, with all due respect to Alex, like...
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He was...
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That was not an allergy attack or, you know, so I hope he's leaving to go get checked out
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or something.
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I think that may be the case.
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I thought that he was...
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When he came in, I was a little surprised at how big he was.
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I thought that he had kinda lost a lot of weight, and I was expecting like, the smell
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of that.
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Well, he actually...
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He still is.
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Is he still smaller?
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He's big, but he's smaller.
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He was bigger before.
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Yeah, he was a lot bigger before.
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I mean, he's drinking a Topo Chico.
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Now.
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And...
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You what?
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Now.
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Right.
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I can see why he's got a drinking problem.
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That's why I'm concerned about that medical episode, and then him abruptly leaving, because
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he knows we don't end the show right away like that.
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Yeah, I think that he just...
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Honestly, I think that he was having a hard time keeping it together, and he kinda realized
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it.
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He was inebriated?
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No, that coughing fit he had?
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Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the coughing was a different thing.
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That was more than just a coughing fit.
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Yeah, the coughing was a different thing, but I think that he kinda realized that he
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was having a hard time staying on topic and stuff.
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I thought actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.
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I think he was doing relatively fine because he's never on topic.
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So, yeah.
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But he was very clearly drunk.
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And this is a really interesting glimpse.
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Because they're on a live stream, and Tim is even gonna talk about this in the next
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clip, they wouldn't talk about this, but they're on a live stream, and there's people in the
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comments being like, what happened?
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You're gaslighting if you don't acknowledge the very obvious thing that everybody there
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saw, and they're not going to just go away and be like, oh, well, it's polite of you
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not to talk about it.
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So because they're on this stream and they have to address it, they're bringing up, he
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clearly smelled like alcohol, he was wasted, he was in terrible shape.
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I was ready, I had my phone ready to call an ambulance because this guy was fucking
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losing it in front of me.
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He looked like he couldn't breathe.
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I think the best line read so far of the entire show has been the now after Topo.
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He was drinking a Topo Chico.
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Now that's good timing.
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That's the way you pull that one out.
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So this is the last clip that we have, and it really is like, I think they're disappointed.
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And I would be too, if I were them.
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I thought actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit.
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And then he read twice and was struggling to breathe, which was like, you know, medical
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episode.
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Hopefully he gets him taken care of.
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Normally I wouldn't talk about stuff like this, but we're literally live when it happened,
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and the chat is lighting up with people asking what was going on.
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And so I'm not going to pretend nothing happened, just ignore it.
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You know, if we were doing pre-production and that happened, that's his business, I
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wouldn't say anything, but he's live on the show and then leaves.
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Like super drunk, super dehydrated.
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He said allergies, but fatigue, if he's up really, absence for him, God knows I hope
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the best for him though.
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I was terrified while that was happening.
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I was just watching him and trying to stay calm.
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Well, I'm kind of bummed because, you know, a lot of people have said he'd had a drinking
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problem for a long time and then these videos are coming out of him getting healthy and
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fit and he was looking really good.
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And I wonder if the end of the show, like he's just suffering anxiety nonstop.
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So he started drinking again.
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Could be.
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Could be.
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You don't need to make excuses for him.
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He just started drinking again.
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I don't understand what is happening here.
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These people are so weird.
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Yeah, he just had some time that he took off and now it's a fucking problem again.
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But like, I think that this is really illustrative because Tim Pool is big.
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Like Tim Pool has a big audience.
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Alex going on Tim Pool's show is not a minor thing.
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Like going on Patrick Bette David, going on Duncan Trussell might be minor, like comparatively
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to going on Tim Pool's show.
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And he can't keep it together to be there for more than like an hour and 15 minutes
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or something.
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That's the window that he's capable of mustering something.
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And that's bad.
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Because he stands to gain so much from being there, putting in a good performance.
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There's a lot of audience that you potentially can poach from Tim Pool.
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And if you've got your main thing threatened and probably going to go away, if not now,
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fucking someday, right?
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Then the idea of migrating people is only possible if you are popular every other places.
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And if you're trying to get people to come over to your thing and you're fucking almost
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dying on air and having a coughing fit that you claim are because you're tired and then
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the hosts are like, he was fucking wasted.
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He smelled like booze.
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These people aren't going to come to the Alex Jones Network dot com.
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They're going to be like, oh, look at that old drunk.
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Why would I go?
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I mean, other than to see an old drunk.
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Sure.
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Right.
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But if Alex was offering that kind of content, then that would be different.
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Him drunk by a fire telling us about witches.
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I can do old drunk.
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I can't do old drunk who believes he's speaking to God.
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And that's why fucking Nazis should be in power.
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And that's what he needs.
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He needs people chasing that in order for the transition to his new business to work.
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I think that this was a monumental failure and a really grim look at how incapable he
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is of pulling it together anymore.
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But funny.
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I mean, what?
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The stakes couldn't be higher.
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And this is the performance he delivers.
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You know, you get exactly what you get.
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Yes.
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Congratulations to Tim, to Ian, to whoever the other guy was and to Alex's doctor.
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Really feel bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we'll be back with another episode on what Alex is up to.
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Absolutely.
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See if he cleaned up, got sober again.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's KnowledgeFight.com.
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Also, we've got a show, the two brothers.
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Link in the description.
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There's a link in the description.
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Goes live Saturday at 9 a.m.
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Sweet.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.