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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Well, it is still January.
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Oh, that's right.
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So we have a tradition around these here parts and that is where you go first.
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I'm gonna have to go first.
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My bright spot today is that my wife purchased for me the greatest pair of sweatpants that I have ever owned.
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Okay.
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I just got them yesterday.
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Drawstring?
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There is a drawstring, but you don't really need it.
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Okay.
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They are, they're maroon, which is perfect.
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You could spill a whole bottle of wine on these things. Nobody would ever know.
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It's like a car that doesn't show dirt.
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Absolutely.
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They got patches on the knees, reinforced patches.
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Not gonna kick right through them.
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Not gonna do it.
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They are also the most warm thing.
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Like, I don't know if they're gonna be good whenever it's more than zero degrees outside,
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but for a negative 20 degree week in Chicago, this is the greatest.
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Nice.
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They are the greatest.
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They're awesome.
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What did you say there were on the knees?
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Uh...
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Patches?
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I'm depending on your son to pull the family through.
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Yeah.
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Was it that?
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I think so.
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Okay.
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I think it was.
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Well, that's great.
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I can't really find a pair of sweatpants that I can, uh, like, bond with.
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I know that.
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I found some bad ones.
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Yeah?
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Yeah.
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I like a good sweatpants.
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I find sweatpants to be the most satisfying of clothes.
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I love them.
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I love the idea.
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I just haven't found a good one.
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That's all.
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Yeah.
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I hold out hope that one day I will be in your position.
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Ooh, I've got some Star Wars sweatpants.
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Uh, here's the problem.
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No patches on the knee.
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No?
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Now they got a hole in the knee.
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You know what I'm saying?
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These new sweatpants?
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Patches on the knee!
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I wish.
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I wish I had known.
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Were you trying to get me to sing again?
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Ah, goddammit.
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I'm willing to.
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I'm waiting.
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I'm waiting for this.
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My son, it's up to you to do the rest.
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There you go.
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My daddy was a big old man.
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I can see him with the shovel in his hand.
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Alright.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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Alright.
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Okay.
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Well, it's January.
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Patches.
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It is.
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It is January.
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It's finished in January.
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I'm doing the Haribo.
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Still going.
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Yeah, and look, it's the, what is it, the 28th?
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There's only 24 days on Advent Calendar.
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So, we're done.
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That's a good point.
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But, I looked at the 24th and it is actually my favorite of Haribo's offerings.
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Oh, really?
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And that is the Haribo Roulette.
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Oh, those are like the Life Savers gummies.
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Yeah, little discs.
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Fuck, those are good.
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I like them quite a bit.
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So, I'm not even going to try them because that would take me a while to eat.
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Yeah.
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So, thumbs up.
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You ended strong, Haribo.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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Jordan, you don't need to vamp.
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Ugh.
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I was ready.
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I had a whole thing.
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So, here's my bright spot instead.
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Yeah.
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I watched an episode of MacGyver two weeks ago.
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Okay.
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Still thinking about it.
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No.
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Oh.
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I've been meaning to bring it up because we've been talking about, you know, all my
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MacGyver adventures.
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Sure.
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I'm going to see if I remember the plot.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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So, MacGyver is out on the docks and he sees a young girl who's trying to fish.
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Okay.
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And he's like, ah, you've got to do this.
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He fixes her reel and she catches a big fish and it's great.
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Alright.
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Turns out, she's homeless.
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Oh, okay.
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She's a street kid.
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Alright.
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Doesn't have a home.
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Is squatting in an abandoned building.
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So, MacGyver has taught her how to eat for a lifetime is what we're talking about.
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Yes.
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First off.
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Okay.
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Good news.
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So, that's going on.
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When MacGyver gets kidnapped by somebody, I don't remember exactly how this happens.
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Alright.
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But they give him a poison.
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They poison MacGyver.
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Knowing it's MacGyver they kidnapped him or they just kidnapped a person and then are
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poisoning him?
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See, this is where I don't remember.
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Okay.
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But, it's a poison that will kill him in 48 hours.
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Well, that's a terrible poison.
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Nobody should ever make that poison.
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Right.
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So, the bad guys are like, you're fine because you're never going to get this antidote.
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Right.
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I bet you he will.
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So, he goes and escapes and is wandering around the streets and he seems like he's a drunk
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because he's like waddling around.
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Because he's all poisoned, yeah.
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And that same kid who he had helped fish is like, I got to help this guy.
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Of course.
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So, she takes him to her abandoned building squat that she lives in.
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Right.
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Naturally.
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Somehow they end up getting the antidote.
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I don't remember.
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Look, here's the point.
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I don't remember, but it was great.
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Yeah.
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At the end, he implies that he's going to get this kid back in school.
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I would appreciate one situation at the end where it is like, hey kid, I hate to do this
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for you, but the systemic and structural problems are something that I really can't alter whatsoever.
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So here's a 20.
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All right.
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You have a good one.
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I'm out of here.
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Here's a fish.
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I just remembered how it happened.
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Okay.
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So, the guy is bringing something back to the United States.
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It's like a list of agents who are undercover or something like that.
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So he's with a handler and then they get attacked.
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He hides the database in a lamp post.
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Brilliant.
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And so these people give him the poison because they're trying to get him to reveal where
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he hid the list of spies.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So that's why he ends up in that situation.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So, okay.
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Here's what I'm thinking, right?
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If you've got a 48 hour poison, do you also have like a 24 hour poison?
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Do you have like a six hour poison?
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Like, do you have a series of poisons for the circumstances that you need or do you
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only have the 48 hour poison?
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I think in this case they were not choosing the number.
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Okay.
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I think it was just like, hey, that's how it works.
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All right.
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This poison, that's just, we were on the poison's time.
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Well, I mean, cause it seems it's useful for like a, you know, forcing the, for like a
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crank situation, you know, where it's like, you got a clock, you got to get us the stuff
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we need or you're dead.
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Right.
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That makes sense.
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But you know, 48 is a long time.
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It's too much.
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It's a long time.
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Yeah.
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You can figure out a lot of ways to get around a 48 hour poison in 48 hours.
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Right.
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What kind of amusement are you going to get out of this person trying to avoid death?
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You've got to go to bed in the middle of this.
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Absolutely.
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Like you can't, like, you can't stay up the whole time.
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Yeah.
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And then while you're sleeping, what are they going to kill you?
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They might.
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Exactly.
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It doesn't matter because they don't have the antidote.
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No, I'd say, I say 12 hour poison max.
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I don't remember exactly how it happens, but the poison antidote pill ends up down a sewer
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grate.
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Of course it does.
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And MacGyver and the girl have to use their fishing skills.
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Of course they will.
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In order to get the pill out and save MacGyver's life.
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Thanks guys for establishing in the early part of the episode what skills we're going
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to need at the later part of the episode.
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That's fantastic.
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I'm telling you that this show is the best.
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I love it.
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Even though I only have to remember the episode.
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Yeah, it's great.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about January 25th, 2026.
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Oh, that wasn't a good day.
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No, it wasn't.
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So on the 24th, there's another shooting.
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Sure.
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ICE, federal agents killed another person.
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Yep, they murdered him.
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And that's, it was on a Saturday.
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That's Alex's day off.
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Right.
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We will be taking a look at Sunday.
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What happened when he decided to show back up and check in?
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I'm excited.
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I think he's going to do great.
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Yeah, you're going to love this.
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I think he's got it.
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So before we get to this though, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, my wife, Dr. Emma Langman-Marr turns 50 on February 2nd, Groundhog Day, which feels
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cosmically significant.
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She's Neo, she's Leo, she's DZX Clark, she is the mysterious professor, she's a long-time
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monk, and you're her second, maybe third favorite podcast?
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Hmm.
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She loves it when dad shouts, oh, that's a great idea.
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So if that happens, history will be made.
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She's an incredible wife, an amazing mom, and deeply loved.
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From Phil, Carl, Jacob, Dexter, Grace, Faye, and Ava, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Happy birthday.
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Also, happy birthday, Daniel Day Lewis, not the actor, but you know who you are.
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Love you, Raptor Princess.
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Because of you, I've listened to 150,000 hours of this show before realizing I didn't
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know what Alex Jones looked like.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And hey, babe, hey, baby girl, poot on your butt.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to I'm Out of Bail Bond
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Fund, so you're gonna have to take my money now, CDG.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So Jordan, on Saturday, federal agents killed another citizen in Minneapolis.
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The previous incident involved a person driving a car who'd been presumably blocking traffic
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before being confronted by agents.
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It was an awful shooting, but the surrounding details of it allowed just enough wiggle room
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for state media surrogates like Alex to pretend that the agent was in fear for his life and
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the killing was justified.
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People whose careers rely on them pretending to be opposed to police brutality like Alex
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were able to continue their charade, taking up the position that the police shouldn't
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kill people, but what do you expect when someone's driving a car at you?
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It is what it is.
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Through their arguments, they were insincere and they were based in lies, but they were
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still able to keep that illusion going throughout this coverage of that shooting.
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But Saturday's shooting was entirely different.
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I don't think it's a stretch the people online have called it an execution.
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The victim was legally recording law enforcement, got assaulted by federal agents, then was
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taken to the ground and disarmed, after which point he was shot repeatedly.
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You can make out ten shots fired in the video of the murder and none of it can be justified.
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The best argument someone can really make is that one of the officers misunderstood
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the victim's gun being confiscated as the gun being wielded, but even this argument
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fails.
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It's the most generous interpretation of the event possible, and if that is the case,
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then the agents who fired need to be fired and possibly charged with crimes.
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The chain of command has to be examined because this level of undisciplined violence is at
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least partially the product of bad leadership, and pretending otherwise is just not possible.
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Again, like the last time, I'm not interested in arguing about this, and I don't take anyone
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who would support this seriously.
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They're not sincere participants in a debate, they're malicious or misguided agents of state
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power.
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Full stop.
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What makes this murder different from the last one is that the only way that the right-wing
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media has been able to justify the shooting this time involves the victim legally carrying
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a gun at the protest.
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Whether or not you can drive a car somewhere isn't a central issue for one political party,
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but whether or not you should be able to have a gun at all times is.
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The Second Amendment is central for the modern right-wing, and a part of it is the full destigmatization
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of carrying a gun.
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Not only is it okay for you to carry a gun at a protest, it's wrong for anyone to act
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as if it's not.
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If you feel weird about me carrying a gun, that's your problem.
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Brandishing a gun and threatening someone with one is an act that could lead to you
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getting shot, but it's been a critical part of the right-wing project to stress the difference
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between carrying a gun and brandishing a gun.
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But now, the only way to justify this shooting in any way is to stress that the victim had
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a gun.
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We've often asked ourselves how sincere Alex's Second Amendment beliefs are, and I guess
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we're gonna find out.
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I think this is gonna test that a little bit.
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Hmm.
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I have my doubts.
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Do you?
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Yeah, yep, yep.
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I think it's probably gonna be totally fine.
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Do you think he's gonna navigate these choppy waters well?
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I think eventually you just go, well, he's our enemy and we don't care if you murder
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the enemy.
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That's about as good as we're gonna get out of him, I bet.
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Well, you know, I mean, we still have an episode to do, but you're not far off.
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Fair enough.
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So we start off here, and Alex is doing a special report in his car on Sunday before
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he comes into studio.
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All right, I'm reporting from Austin, Texas on this Sunday, about 1130 Central.
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I will be live from the M4 Studios tonight, 4 to 8 PM.
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Got about 3 inches, 4 inches of ice sheet.
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So the road's especially empty.
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See a few cars that didn't make it off on the sides.
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Again, really a 100-year storm, the lightning must of the United States.
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A lot of power lines down north around that Austrian.
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Not too many power outs this year.
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Not so good.
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Feel for all the folks around the country.
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We also, of course, had the second fatal ice shooting in just two or three weeks in Minneapolis,
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Minnesota, which was easy to predict, unfortunately.
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That's why the Podesta plan from August 2020, the Democrats said, we will block normal ice
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enforcement that's been going on since ice was set up in 2002.
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Remember, Obama had four times the deportations.
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Trump ever did.
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People said, well, the wise guy says violence, because nobody ever came out and attacked
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them like that before.
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And that's the Democrat plan.
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So Alex is acting like this turn of events was easy to predict, but he's not been saying
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that ice was going to kill another citizen.
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He's been saying that riots were going to break out because of the last murder and that
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the federal agents would be the ones being killed.
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There would be a huge false flag in order to blame ice or Trump.
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What's happening in the real world doesn't match his fantasy storylines, but it doesn't
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really matter, because it all kind of feels the same.
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The Podesta plan is everything and nothing at the same time, and Alex is the only expert
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on it because he's making it all up, and as long as there's chaos, it feels like he's
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kind of right.
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He has an energy that he feels like he doesn't want to cover this shooting.
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Like, he knows it's going to be embarrassing for him.
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Yeah.
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And I think he's right.
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I mean, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You are, if you are Alex Jones, if you watch the government disarm and then execute a man
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in broad daylight, you have a responsibility to be one person or the other.
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You know what I think would be interesting?
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If Alex just wanted to litigate the last shot.
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I was, I-
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The first nine shots, totally justified, but that last one-
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The first thing I was thinking was like, well, I mean, the seventh shot was justified.
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Eight, nine, ten, eh, I don't know.
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One through six, real bad.
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But seven, you had to do seven.
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Once you get to six, you got to do seven.
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That's just the math.
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Right.
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Right?
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Seven is a lucky number.
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Yeah, that's, boy, it's tough.
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It's tough to not say that when there is a blatant disregard for the concept of law,
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the idea of following law seems absurd.
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Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yep.
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So Alex, he's fine with the last killing.
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Yeah.
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The last one, that lady in the car, that was fine.
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This one seems a little bit iffy, but it's also probably-
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Iffy?
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But it's probably okay.
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Iffy?
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It's probably all right.
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All right.
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They meant well.
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Then this woman supposedly was just leaving her house, and then of course that wasn't
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true.
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She traveled five hours or whatever to come there with her wife and confront everybody,
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block cars, and then ran the agent.
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That was completely justified.
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In this one, I don't think it was on purpose, and I don't think it's a homicide because
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the man did have a gun on him.
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Now that we've gotten better HD shots of it than we had yesterday, people turn it over
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to CNN footage that they got really close.
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You can see the other shots of a woman that was only like 20 feet away with a cell phone.
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Well, now that footage has come out.
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It's on CNN's website.
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I'll be planning tonight on my show.
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It's very crisp, very clear.
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I was able to slow it down, and you can see that they're all wrestling around.
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One agent sees that he has a gun in his waistband, you know, the smallest back, and says, gun.
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He grabs it.
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Alex is trying to come off a little bit more moderate in his response here.
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The last murder was totally cool, but this one probably wasn't intentional.
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There's some stuff that looks bad, but ultimately the audience is just going to have to accept
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it.
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Alex is saying that it wasn't homicide by the agents because the victim had a gun.
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Really let that soak in.
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Like, I'm going to play this again.
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Just bathe in this.
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In this one, I don't think it was on purpose, and I don't think it's a homicide, because,
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you know, the man did have a gun on him.
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You cannot have a philosophical belief in the individual right to own and bear arms
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and say something like that.
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The fact that Alex can engage with a story like this reveals that even his belief in
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the Second Amendment is bullshit.
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The issue that this highlights is that fundamentally, Alex's beliefs have always been surface-level
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shit.
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His dad fucked his head up with all this John Birch Society stuff when he was a kid, and
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he's gone on to base most of his life around one of the stupidest books ever written, none
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dare call it conspiracy.
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As his career has progressed, he's just been used by a bunch of attention-seeking dipshit
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opportunists, and a lot of those old standard anti-communist right-wing beliefs have gotten
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eroded by hot internet trends and dumb bullshit he sees on social media.
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But none of it really matters to him.
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He didn't understand or care about the principle of gun ownership and what it means to believe
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strongly in a right to carry.
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He just knew all the language.
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He memorized the catchphrases and talking points of the extreme right, and he hung out
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with fanatics like Larry Pratt, and that was good enough.
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He was a Second Amendment guy because he acted like one, and that's all that mattered.
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In the present day, Alex is doing what he's doing partly because he's been entirely seduced
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and captured by feeling like he's close to actual state power, but also partly because
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he doesn't understand the ideas he talks about on his show in any depth.
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He can say the words and do the performance about how gun rights are sacred when there's
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a mass shooting and he needs to argue against gun registration, but he doesn't care about
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this shit as much as he pretends to, and it's obvious in a moment like this.
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You can't say that this isn't a homicide because the guy had a gun.
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You're Alex Jones!
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Nope.
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The fuck, man?
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No, you have to defend fucking OKC.
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You have to defend OKC because if the government drives a tank onto your land, I don't care
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what you're doing.
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If the government drives a tank onto the land of somebody who's actively selling weapons,
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I don't care.
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The government can't do that, and so there must be retribution.
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You can't say, well, I mean, sure, the government murdered him, but...
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But he had a gun.
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But they were selling guns!
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Yeah.
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That's what other people would say.
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He had a gun.
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That's why people said Alex Jones was crazy, is because he said, oh no, you can't murder
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all those people just for having guns.
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But this guy had a gun.
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But this guy had a gun.
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This guy had a gun!
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He was at a protest.
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I mean, hey, if one guy has a gun at a protest, then sure, the government should be allowed
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to detain them, disarm them, and then murder them.
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And look, we're not all gonna be thrilled about it, but let's not get mad.
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I mean, the government seems fairly thrilled about it.
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We'll get to that in a minute.
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I do appreciate the idea that people are acting as though this wasn't the goal.
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Right?
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Like, oh, this is a side of it.
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No, come on.
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It can be both.
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Come on.
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You're beat, you're literally terrorized right now?
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Surprise!
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Who could have guessed that you would be terrorized by this terrorist organization?
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So, look, this shit's not good.
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No.
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The guy was probably innocent.
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Wow.
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But come on.
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Stressful situation out there on those streets.
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You're gonna do.
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Now that CNN got footage from a lady that I guess didn't post it online but gave it
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to CNN this morning, it's HD, and you can see it all happen.
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So they're all hustling around with him, dog-piling him.
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It does look like he's resisting some.
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And then you see the officer behind him saying, gun, and grabs the gun out from the small
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that was back.
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You know, there, tucked between his belt, small was back.
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And then when you watch the footage, you can see that it looks like a tear gas, not a tear
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gas, pepper spray, big bottle falls from one of the scuffling ICE officers.
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The man's cell phone and a clip bounces out.
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In fact, the clip had already bounced out about two seconds before.
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And so they think that's the gun because they already heard gun.
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And when they hear gun, which way has a gun, that means either they've gotten the gun,
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which they didn't know, they heard gun, that means you can have another gun.
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So they draw, they all draw, they all back up and draw.
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And then that stuff starts bouncing around and they think it's a gun because the guy
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starts getting up on his knees as all that stuff bounces out and in the stress of the
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moment they killed him.
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And I think the guy was innocent.
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I'm sorry that he's dead.
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But those are those really high stakes situations where they're carrying out.
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What were the stakes?
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With their administrative warrants, with their court orders, out there doing that, and everybody's
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really on edge.
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Alex is in really choppy water here because he's trying to slow play this.
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He knows his career and audience are based in gun rights absolutism.
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So they aren't going to love the argument that this guy deserved to be killed because
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he had a gun that he was carrying legally.
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Simultaneously, all of the people that Alex likes in government are tripping over their
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own feet to smear the victim as a terrorist.
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Stephen Miller posted this to describe the situation.
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Quote, a would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement.
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Assistant Homeland Security Secretariat Tricia McLaughlin used the fact that the victim had
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a gun to assert, quote, this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do
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maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said, quote, fearing for his life and the lives
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of his fellow officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots.
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This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage
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on individuals and kill law enforcement.
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Alex's own employee and dipshit friend Nick Sartor incorrectly identified the victim as
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an illegal alien and said he was, quote, armed with a gun and attempted to pull it on agents
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as he was being apprehended.
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This is an information war, and Alex's side has made it very clear what their narrative
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is supposed to be here.
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It's now his choice to eat this shit like his job requires or have a backbone and call
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the government and his own employee gun grabbers.
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Those are the only two options.
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And he's trying to slow play somewhere in the middle, and it looks stupid.
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I mean, seems like an asshole.
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This is forced to everybody's hand.
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Either ignore it or don't.
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But there's no there's no not choosing a side, you know, you can ignore it, which what you're
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going to do, but you see it, you got to choose.
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And I don't I don't think that I don't want to I don't want to paint that on everybody,
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but I do want to paint that on Alex.
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Sure.
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I want to double down on that in terms of Alex.
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This is a moment he cannot ignore.
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No.
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Yeah, this this he should actually be out there like, hey, we need to find out where
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the fucking ice keeps their weapons and burn that depot to the ground.
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Yes.
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If they don't if you don't want to get shot, then we got to get rid of their guns.
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We have to take their guns.
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And since we can't carry them, we have to burn that place to the fucking ground.
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Yeah, he should be like trying to lure Bovino in for an interview and then hold him in a
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cell or something.
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Citizens arrest.
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And I think we should probably burn those depots to the ground.
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Look, there's a lot of people who are saying a lot of interesting things.
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And one of them is Alex.
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And he's like, hey, man, just don't carry guns.
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It's too dangerous.
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Oh, you've already had all these ice agents shot up all the rest of it.
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It is extremely crazy and extremely dangerous to be armed out there.
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I'm off the Second Amendment.
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You guys got rights to be out there with your guns.
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OK, I'm just saying it's going to happen.
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When I go to demonstrations and stuff, I don't take guns just because it makes me more of a target.
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Now, when I have some training security there, it's got concealed and stuff, but I'm not even second-guessing the guy doing that.
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I'm simply pointing out what do you expect in this type of situation with all the stuff going on?
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So Alex has given in to fear and now no longer believes that citizens should express their God-given right to carry a gun
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because it's too likely to make federal agents see you as a target and they'll probably kill you.
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If federal agents think you're a target because you're exercising your rights, then your rights are under attack.
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And Alex fucking knows that.
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His career is based on seeing a situation like this and saying that people should walk around with more guns.
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His beliefs are based on not changing how you exercise your rights because the state tells you to.
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When there's a conflict between your rights and what the state asks of you, you're in a tyranny.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:52.579)
I think it's also important to stress that Alex understands that what he's saying is a betrayal of his gun rights position.
Unknown Speaker (00:26:58.579)
And that's why he's doing this so softly.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:00.579)
He's trying to mask the point of what he's saying behind this facade of empathy and like, oh my God, isn't this such a, oh, shut up, such a tragedy.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:10.579)
I mean, the funny part about it, the irony of it is hearing it out of his mouth makes it so clear that everybody who's ever been like,
Unknown Speaker (00:27:18.579)
I'm all for the second amendment is full of shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:21.579)
You're not. You're not because it's fucking crazy.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:24.579)
You just don't want your side disarmed.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:26.579)
Exactly. You don't want to be like, hey, I'm all for the second amendment, but fuck off. It's ridiculous. Stop it.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:32.579)
Yep. And it's, it's, it's pretty ludicrous for Alex to just have this position of like, it's too dangerous.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:41.579)
Shouldn't, shouldn't keep guns. The state might treat you badly if you have guns.
Unknown Speaker (00:27:46.579)
I mean, yeah, it is, it is like this guy has set himself up, has talked such a big game to find his moment where he is probably positioned to lead a lot of people with a lot of dangerous things.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:01.579)
With a lot of dangerous ideas to do some good. And yet somehow here we are with him supporting the fucking Nazis.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:10.579)
Well, here's the truth. The tree of Liberty needs to be watered with the blood of Patriots and tyrants, not cowards.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:17.579)
Well, Alex is free from watering duty. Don't think he has to worry about ever running into that tree.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:25.579)
I wouldn't be surprised.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:27.579)
So I think that Alex is like, Hey man, they're not, no, one's going to try these cops. They're fine. Everything's cool. Feels bad though. I mean, it looks bad. It seems like shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:38.579)
It looks bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:39.579)
They will try to have Soros judges indict this ICE agent. I don't see that going anywhere. Looks like three of them fired into the man once they heard gun, gun and all that.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:51.579)
And it's just, it's just a tragic situation and it can happen to anybody that goes out against the middle of this stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:58.579)
So I'm sad for the man and I'm sad for his family, but all the tens of thousands killed by Lee Lai Lien's bird are grave. The millions dead from fentanyl. The left never humanizes that. They never talk about that.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:11.579)
I think that Alex believes that he seems empathetic when he's trying to do this. I feel bad for the victim's family stuff, but it makes him come off worse.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:19.579)
Gun rights is a cold hearted business for Alex. Defending your right to defend yourself has meant that he's had to do some horrible shit in public and re victimize a ton of grieving people.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:31.579)
He's had to defame and disparage people who are just living their lives before tragedy struck. And, and sure it comes off bad to treat people like that, but it was what Alex had to do to make sure that the gun grabbers didn't grab your guns.
Unknown Speaker (00:29:45.579)
If Soros lawyers and judges are the only ones who are going to try to indict these agents for murdering a citizen just because he had a gun and that's not going to work, then doesn't it kind of seem like federal agents could just kill anyone they see with a gun?
Unknown Speaker (00:29:58.579)
If what Alex is saying is taken seriously, then you don't have a right to carry a gun. Your God given second amendment rights are conditional and you can only exercise them when the government tells you that you can. And they don't even need to tell you you can or can't. They will just kill you.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:13.579)
That is a good way of telling you that you can't.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:15.579)
Yeah, it's pretty final. The empathy is not real. It's an instinctual performance Alex is putting on to mask the fact that he's condoning state murder. Feeling empathy for the victim is a normal and relatable thing to express.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:28.579)
So he's hoping that distracts from the blatant boot licking that he's doing and make people not realize like, who are you?
Unknown Speaker (00:30:36.579)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I get the bloodthirsty people. They make sense to me. You know, I get when Stephen Miller's like, that guy's a terrorist murderer. Yeah, you want to murder people. You're a murderer. That's fine. I get that.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:48.579)
There's character consistency there.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:50.579)
This is just, this is pathetic. That is the thing. It's not even that it's like wrong or bad or anything. It is like a worm. It is like watching a fucking snail try and run. This is disgusting.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:07.579)
It is. It is fucking sad.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:09.579)
Well, and the thing that sucks about watching a snail run is that like you realize that like, ah, this has always been the case. Yeah. Like he would have been willing to give up second amendment shit. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:25.579)
At any point. Yeah. If the more important things to him were catered to, which are his feelings of white identity, his want and desire to press the LGBTQ community, kicking out immigrants. Like if those things were catered to, he never would have felt the need to protect himself from an oppressive government.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:44.579)
Yeah. No, the honest thing is the honest truth of Alex right now is that if he had any integrity, whenever he realized this is the government's line, he should have fucking lit himself on fire outside of his studio. Like that is, that's the level of protest.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:00.579)
He should be killing himself right now. Like that is what should be happening because to, that's your choice. Your choice is either to die in one way or die in another. I can die in real life and not have to fucking suck the feet of goddamn Donald Trump anymore.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:17.579)
Or I can kill myself in another way and say, this is fine. Both of them are death. Sure. I mean, I think he'll probably choose the one that pays better. Probably every time.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:28.579)
So, um, Hey, look, man, uh, so Oscar buzz going around, you know, love it. We got a sinners, got a bunch of knobs. It's going to be great. Also got a, Hey, yep. And I think that Alex saw the Oscar knobs and he was like, maybe I should get around to see him. That movie that I keep talking about odd.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:48.579)
So the night before Alex finally watched one battle after another, I thought he watched wicked for good. Nope. Nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:54.579)
Do we capitulate and just abandoned all these blue cities? That's the plan. Start with not working with ice being sanctuary cities, blocking pull feds, getting any illegal aliens, including hard criminals.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:06.579)
They can always Hollywood movies where they're all innocent. They're all angels, like one bad lab for another. And all the ice people are secretly white supremacists, you know, in the St Nick, uh, uh, society or whatever it's made up total crap.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:21.579)
Um, the St Nick adventure society and all this stuff. It's just, it's like the same people that put out the machete kills were Don Johnson shooting pregnant Hispanic woman at the border. Where are the gringos? Kill the Hispanics at the border. No, it's all eight percent of them get raped by the coyotes on the Mexican side, but you don't see machete kills.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:41.579)
And, and, uh, Rodriguez put that out and Obama was involved getting those done. It's all just the same shit. And I finally watched that read the transcript. I've read the script of it, but I hadn't watched one battle after another.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:56.579)
And I watched it last night and it was just like all scripted for this timing already. Just like civil war last year, the election. And it's all their wet dream. It's all what they wanted to the pedestrian.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:05.579)
Oh yeah. Alex read the script. Sure. Dumb Dick. Jesus Christ. That clip is fucking damning. Alex straight up said that until the night before this January 24th, he hadn't even seen one battle after another, all the shit that he's made up about it and how it's a Podesta plan.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:24.579)
All of that came from a guy who'd only seen the trailer and heard his racist friends on Twitter complain about the trailer. Yep. His story without having seen the movie is that it glamorizes Antifa style violence against ice facilities.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:36.579)
And now that he's seen it, he can't possibly hold the same position, but he also can't change his talking points. That's a problem. He's trapped in his previewing review, which is kind of funny, but also pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:50.579)
I can't really stress how embarrassing this should be for someone to say. He's been on air yelling about how this movie is part of the globalist plot to foment domestic terrorism as a plot against the white man. And he didn't even bother to watch it before preaching that shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:03.579)
He used his feelings about the movie to justify the killing of US citizens and he hadn't even seen it. That's crazy.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:14.579)
It's embarrassing to imagine someone watching him and hearing something like that and being like, this guy is good. He does his work. He's a good source of information.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:23.579)
I would feel pretty embarrassed too if somebody was like, the sick Nick club? That's not even real. Like, yeah buddy. Yeah man. You're almost there. You're gonna get it. You're gonna get there one day. You're gonna get that none of it was real. The whole thing. It's a make-em-up.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:40.579)
What?
Unknown Speaker (00:35:41.579)
It's a big old make-em-ups. Not in the script. I read the script. I read it. I was listening to that and I realized something. I don't need another side to exist.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:54.579)
I don't need people to exist to change my opinion on things. That's a murder. I don't care who exists. I don't care if any Democrats or Republicans. You can all go get fucked. That's a murder. All of you can go get fucked. I don't need anybody else.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:12.579)
For him though, he needs Democrats. He needs Obama. Please absolve me of responsibility. Make it so I never have to eat my fucking principles. It's disgusting.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:26.579)
I think that's something we've identified over and over again. Alex exists in a petulant state of oppositional defiance. He can only be understood and understand himself through what he is to his imagined enemy.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:40.579)
That's kind of sad. When the enemy is revealing their plans to me through movies and you don't even watch the movies, you don't even take your own psychosis seriously. It's pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:53.579)
It's lazy psychosis. It's boring.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:57.579)
It's the mark of somebody who's maybe not as crazy as they want to look. Maybe one of the only ways he can seem interesting.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:10.579)
If the Joker just had a sustainable theft model of mid-tier banks from city to city never staying anywhere too long, not really causing chaos so much as living fine.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:23.579)
Alex is kind of like the Joker if he was like, what if I burned a big pile of money? Think about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:29.579)
Wouldn't that be crazy? Wouldn't that be crazy?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:31.579)
And I never got around to it.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:32.579)
But me changing things by saying that is what this is really about. I'm going to take my pile of money, thank you.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:37.579)
Yeah, yeah. I'm going to burn that money.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:39.579)
I will take that money.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:40.579)
That's crazy.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:41.579)
That is ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:42.579)
So look, ICE didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do this.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:44.579)
They did. They really did.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:46.579)
No, because you've got to think about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:47.579)
No, they murdered that guy out of desire.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:50.579)
Well, you're not taking into account the paperwork.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:53.579)
But again, my prayers go out to ICE, the American people, and to this fellow's family.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:58.579)
And the left-hand go out there with guns and stuff starts happening in confusion.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:05.579)
Clearly they didn't want to kill him. They didn't want the paperwork to go to prison or to face all this.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:09.579)
But they're going to do what they're doing.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:12.579)
And they are sworn law enforcement and they are trained. Most of them are former cops or military or both.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:17.579)
And again, I'm surprised at how professional they've been so far because these are dangerous situations to end with.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:23.579)
I mean, even before this guy got killed here, they were throwing giant chunks of ICE at him and bricks at him.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:30.579)
You know, just everything else because they just scream, nah, G-F-U, die, die, die.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:35.579)
It's just like, and then they lied about that kid, you know, that five-year-old at the school.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:41.579)
The dad runs, little kid standing there.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:44.579)
So they just say, well here, let's leave you inside. And then that's the truth.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:48.579)
But it doesn't matter, it's always just some new hyped-up hysteria, some new craziness.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:52.579)
At the end of the day, they're the ones that created the crisis.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:54.579)
They're the ones that told the illegals to come up here. They're the ones that gave them all the freebies.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:57.579)
They're the ones that did all this.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:59.579)
I get that Alex is pedaling around a lot of bullshit about how everything is a globalist's fault, but let's just cut through all of that.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:05.579)
Because the globalists have done all the things that they've done over the last few decades, Alex does not believe that you have a Second Amendment right anymore.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:13.579)
Because he likes what ICE is doing and because he feels like they hurt the right people, they should have no punishment for killing you because you're legally carrying a gun in public.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:22.579)
All the shit that he's doing, all of these touch points he's trying to make, all of it is a distraction from the main point of this video, which is that the state can kill you for having a gun now.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:33.579)
Attempts to punish federal agents for killing someone for having a gun, that's just Soros judges trying to meddle with Trump's agenda for success.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:41.579)
That's where he's at. That's what he's saying.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:44.579)
No, I mean, we should seriously be sitting here with him going like, if that guy had killed all of those ICE officers, I would defend him.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:53.579)
He should have. They all had guns and they were trying to take his gun away. He should have been able to murder all of those people.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:00.579)
He should have been able to shoot them all in the fucking head.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:02.579)
If he was there protesting vaccine mandates, Alex probably would have that position.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:09.579)
These motherfuckers bombed an abortion clinic. Fuck off. Fuck all of these fuckers. I don't give a shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:15.579)
So this is the end of the first Twitter video that Alex made.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:19.579)
Oh, there's more than one.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:20.579)
Yeah, there's a second video.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:21.579)
And then he did his show. Oh, fuck.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:23.579)
We're not going to listen to all of it because it does get tiresome at a certain point.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:26.579)
I believe that.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:27.579)
But here is Alex talking. I guess he decided, like, why not shoot another video? Come on, I'm in the car.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:34.579)
I mean, you're in the car.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:35.579)
So you've seen the angles. You've seen the facts. They're totally surprised. They jump, they run.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:39.579)
They believe they obviously see a gun. Two of them shoot in to the man on the ground, Alex Peretti, who's now dead.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:47.579)
And we're sad for him and his family.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:49.579)
So that's the reality of what's happened here. But when you say that there's no borders, when you say get out of the city,
Unknown Speaker (00:40:57.579)
these are sanctuary cities, even for hardened criminals, it creates a conscious crisis and Trump is not going to back down.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:04.579)
So they've created this crisis. They cooperate with ICE. But no, they want illegals to be part of the new census.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:09.579)
Eighteen new seats for the Democrats already. They want them to vote in elections. They admit all that now.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:13.579)
And this is about breaking the country. If the Democrats can hold the cities hostage, they control almost every one of them through election fraud.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:20.579)
And that's the Podesta plan. It's a Civil War movie. That's one battle after another. Then they've conquered this country.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:26.579)
So to translate that, if Alex has seen a couple of movies he doesn't understand and he feels like some protesters are yelling some stuff he doesn't like,
Unknown Speaker (00:41:33.579)
then the Bill of Rights doesn't exist anymore. I think it may be an overly simple way of putting things, but Alex just doesn't believe in universal rights.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:42.579)
He may believe that rights are endowed by the creator, but he doesn't think that everyone was created equal with the same freedom to pursue happiness.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:50.579)
And until he gets real about that, this shit is stupid. Like, he doesn't think that some people have rights.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:58.579)
Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:00.579)
He can act like he's a Second Amendment guy, but it's just like, some people don't have that right.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:05.579)
Yeah, I mean, I find it, you know, it's like a degree for me. Like, every headline that I saw that was like,
Unknown Speaker (00:42:18.579)
Ice shoots and kills US citizen are such, like, I don't even know if they realize that they're implying that it would be totally fine if they'd killed a non-US citizen.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:30.579)
Or a person who was illegal. Or a person who was not supposed to be there. Or blankety blank. That implies that it would have been different.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:40.579)
As opposed to, hey, Ice can't kill anybody. Ice cannot kill anybody. You can't kill anybody. You can't kill anybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:47.579)
Yeah. Yeah, and my language is even, you know, guilty of that a little bit. And I don't mean it to be like, if this person wasn't a citizen, it would be fine.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:57.579)
And I realize that part of the reason, for me at least, in the framing of how I'm talking about this, is because I meet Alex at least partially where he is.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:09.579)
So for him, the fact that this is a citizen matters a lot. And that's why my language is intentionally pointing that out. But your point is right, too.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:22.579)
It doesn't make it any different than had they killed anybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:28.579)
The context within which we are discussing this is far different than anything that fucking ABC News or whoever, whatever fucking morning show is saying.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:40.579)
But it's still good to call yourself out about it a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:43.579)
Yeah, it is very much like the addition of that detail is meant to assuage, like, well, I mean, now that we've added this accuracy, we don't have to then go retroactively say, let's go look and see how many people Ice is murdering.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:00.579)
How many people is Ice murdering? Why don't we know how many people Ice is murdering?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:05.579)
Because if we have to acknowledge that one of them is a US citizen, does that imply that there's a bunch that I haven't heard about who weren't US citizens?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:13.579)
It implies that as a possibility. And I think that the uncomfortable reality is probably if we open that door too wide, we might find out that we don't really know any numbers.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:25.579)
Yeah, no, I mean-
Unknown Speaker (00:44:26.579)
Someone might not even really be keeping track of-
Unknown Speaker (00:44:29.579)
Here's what fucks me up, because here's what I see in that video that I am not hearing from other people and it bothers me. It is professionalism.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:38.579)
It is, that is not something that was their first go round. They have executed plenty of people very similarly.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:47.579)
Let me push back on that. I don't know if I would say professionalism. I'm feeling similar things to what you're saying, but professionalism to me is like James Bond. Precision.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:59.579)
Sure, fair enough.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:01.579)
They seem brazen.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:02.579)
Yes, they seem brazen and practiced. This is not their first disarm and murder.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:09.579)
Yeah, but also so imprecise.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:13.579)
I don't think you have to be that precise whenever you've got ten shots in your back pocket.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:17.579)
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:18.579)
They're not snipers. They don't need sniper behaviors.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:21.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:22.579)
They got plenty of bullets. It seems like they're not running low. Nobody's like, hey, we're not going to replace that clip that you just shot into that human being. Now you don't get bullets. They're going to give them another clip.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:33.579)
I just bucked a little bit, I guess, because for me professionalism has the feeling of choreograph.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:39.579)
I get what you're saying. No, no, no, I get what you're saying.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:41.579)
They seem sloppy, but at the same time not really all that uncomfortable with doing the thing that they're doing, which is murder.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:50.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:51.579)
And yeah, that's not cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:53.579)
No, no.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:55.579)
I agree with you that we can't know right now with the information available what else is unknown.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:04.579)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:05.579)
Who else has been hurt?
Unknown Speaker (00:46:06.579)
Totally.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:07.579)
We don't know that, but it doesn't strike confidence that this is like an oh my god, what the fuck kind of situation when the behavior is like you're describing.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:19.579)
Yeah. I mean, it would be different. It would be very different if like immediately after in that video, the guy was like, oh my god, what the fuck did I just do?
Unknown Speaker (00:46:28.579)
None of that. None of that. It was like, hey, here's our next steps.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:33.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:34.579)
And the previous shooting was even, you know, like calling the person a bitch and not allowing emergency aid to check on her.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:45.579)
Like those are not actions of someone who made a sincere error in the heat of the moment.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:51.579)
And that I agree with you. That is an incredibly scary element of this.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:56.579)
So anyway, it's all about the Podesta plan.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:59.579)
I'm sure it is.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:00.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:01.579)
One other key point in the Podesta plan that they're following.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:04.579)
They want to build public support for the blue cities and states to break away and have a succession and literally lead local police and governments against the federal forces.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:13.579)
That's in the Podesta plan. That's in the Civil War movie.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:16.579)
And that's now what the police chief, the mayor Fry, the governor are talking about by saying what ISIS 2 is illegal, which it's not in its main actions.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:24.579)
It delegitimizes them in the eyes of much of the public that are ignorant.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:28.579)
And that creates the schism as the pretext for the Civil War and the secession that's in the plan.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:33.579)
So let's say that the Podesta plan does involve trying to delegitimize ICE.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:38.579)
According to the way Alex is applying that piece of information, that means that no criticism of ICE can ever be taken as valid because to accept that some delegitimizing piece of information about ICE is true would be in effect part of the Podesta plan working.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:53.579)
If the Podesta plan requires the delegitimization of ICE, then the best way to fight it involves supporting ICE at all costs.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:01.579)
Everything that ICE does will be justifiable this way.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:05.579)
And God forbid there ever end up being like a mass casualty event surrounding ICE.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:09.579)
Alex could just pivot to saying it was a false flag being done by the globalists to make ICE look bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:14.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:15.579)
It's all perfect.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:17.579)
He has a system in place where no state atrocity can be taken seriously and where the Trump administration can get away with anything.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:23.579)
There is nothing he cannot lick. No boot is too big to lick.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:28.579)
Yeah, I mean, it's like even the Kent State guys, they had to go to trial.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:34.579)
You know, at the very least we had a trial.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:37.579)
Sure, they all got fucking off.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:39.579)
Sure, they were all like, eh, you're fine.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:41.579)
But at least it was at least it looked like they were going through the motions of giving a fuck.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:47.579)
This is not that. No, this is not that.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:50.579)
This is cheerfully cheering at atrocity.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:53.579)
So we get to the actual show, Alex's actual show.
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And what do you know? More yappin? More blah, blah, blah about the Podesta plan.
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Amazing.
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I know exactly what's going on.
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And if you're a longtime listener of the show and check out what I was playing, you know what's going on.
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The Democrat Party has an official plan called the Podesta plan.
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That is built around if Trump ever got back in office and deployed ICE like presidents have done.
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In the 23 year history of ICE.
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Then they will have their mobs attack ICE.
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And then when ICE then defends themselves at some point, there's going to be some dead people on both sides.
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And then they build Trump as a dictator and use that as a pretext to have the blue states go into open rebellion and start seceding.
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Now, that's an official Democrat Party plan.
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I made a big deal about it since they first said in August of 2020, if he wins, if we can't steal it, we're going to do that.
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Man, he's struggling. That voice is shot.
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So yeah, that's all the Podesta plan.
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That's all the Podesta plan.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:11.579)
Cool.
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I'm reflecting on myself and the journey that I've taken through life.
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And this has given me a moment of gratitude because I've realized something.
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I've done a lot of drinking in a lot of public places.
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And it is by the grace of God that I did not run into somebody saying shit like this at the wrong time.
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You know? Like, I have not been to jail.
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That's crazy. Because if at any point in time I was less in control and there was somebody saying shit like this after God knows how many atrocities we've lived through.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:44.579)
Yeah, but like, I guess the circumstances are always going to be hard to like recreate at different times in the past.
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Sure, sure.
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How many times did somebody probably say something to you that like, you might want to swing at them, but you just didn't know what the words meant.
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Exactly.
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Like, I wouldn't, if I didn't do this, I don't know if I'd know what the fucking Podesta plan meant.
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Nope, nope.
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This is inside language.
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Yep, and if I was-
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If you encountered that at a bar, you might have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
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Or I'd be like, oh, that's their way of dealing with it.
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Not, oh, this is their way of protecting the people from consequences for murder.
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Yep.
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So the globalists, they want you looking at the details, right?
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They don't want you to see the bigger picture.
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My job is really easy because we have the enemy's own plans.
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But it's also hard because I've been hammering this and hammering this, and we're just now seeing the White House and people get it and talk about it.
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But if you just look at the tragedies that happen here and there, that are caused by them triggering all this,
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and if you only focus on those and debate individual events, you're down on their level, where they want you to be.
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Instead of going, look, they said they would do this, they're the ones fomenting it.
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So you have this latest guy shot, and we now have the details on that, what really happened, we'll be getting into it.
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This better up-close footage has been released.
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But when you pull back from it, this is exactly what they want.
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Alex says a pretty solid strategy to distract people from situations that are really bad for his narrative, which involves fluctuating between whether or not specific details matter.
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In a case like this, where the situation is indefensible, Alex knows he's going to lose an argument trying to say that the federal agents were right to shoot the guy, and that it would look bad, even if he tried to mount that argument.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's the conclusion he's supposed to get his listeners to accept, and his job is to pacify them in situations like this, but the approach of looking at the details of the shooting and defending them is a bad way to do it.
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Instead, he's able to lead them down the path of not caring about the shooting by demanding that they zoom out and see the big picture.
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Sure, if you focus on the specific incident, you're going to get mad at ICE, and you're going to see it's a police state kind of shit that's completely out of control, but that's what the globalists want you to do.
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They've brought in all these immigrants and had their paid provocateurs yell mean things at ICE so it would lead to a moment with optics like this, all so they could trick you into being mad at ICE because you were so set on missing the forest for the trees, you fool.
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If you watch enough of his show, you'll notice that this is a strategy that works both directions.
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When the big picture of something looks really bad for Alex, he demands that the most important thing is focusing on really minute details.
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Take for example the whole Sandy Hook thing. His arguments were incredibly stupid there, but he was able to keep the audience from recognizing that by insisting that they need to just focus on these anomalies that he got from people like Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer.
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In that case, you were supposed to be as lost in the weeds as possible because Alex knew that you would lose the big picture game.
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The big picture was that gun proliferation in the United States had gotten to the point where children might not be safe going to school, and that was the result of policy choices that we had made and could choose differently about.
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This was the argument Alex needed to avoid, so instead of demanding that the audience see the big picture about this, it all got very granular.
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And this is a rhetorical tactic that manipulative liars use, and it's what he's doing.
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And it shouldn't even work because the big picture is worse. The big picture is this fucking ICE guy, this is a job. This guy could have been selling cars 20 years ago, and if he'd sold 10 more cars in a month, maybe he'd still be selling cars.
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This was an organization created by people to lead to these outcomes.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:54.579)
Right. No, that is a big picture.
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You know?
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Yeah. But when you have an incident that's bad, you can write your own big picture.
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That's definitely true.
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You know, you could have that be your big picture about what people are missing out on by focusing on the details, or you could do what Alex does.
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It's his way of keeping things off balance a little bit.
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Yeah.
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When you're looking over here, you're supposed to be looking over there. When you're looking over there, you're supposed to be over here.
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Yeah, I mean, tactically it is the move. Go where they ain't, you know?
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So, I suppose tip of the cap to horror.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:29.579)
Yeah. So, Alex is a little bit mad that everyone is saying that Trump is going to try and get a fourth term in office.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:36.579)
Yeah, he's mad about that.
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You have Senator Chris Murphy, one of the most evil senators in Congress out of Connecticut, and others saying Trump is planning to cancel the 2026 election.
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They're not even speculating. It's a fact.
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If he wins, he's stolen it.
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Well, he says, last week he said he's going to cancel them. Now he says he's going to steal them.
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Now remember, they indicted Trump for saying that 2020 was stolen from him, but he had evidence.
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And Jack Smith just testified to Congress about that this week. So, it's just wild, folks.
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Alex is leaving out an important detail here.
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He's saying that all these folks like Chris Murphy are saying that Trump is going to try to have another term as president, and Alex is acting like this is an accusation that's coming out of thin air.
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These folks were only discussing the idea of Trump running again and violating the Constitution because Trump tweeted, quote, this is all caps,
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record numbers all over the place. Should I try for a fourth term?
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A lot of Alex's show can be deconstructed like this.
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Step one, Trump does or says something completely insane and inflammatory.
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Step two, someone else responds to Trump's inflammatory shit by saying something like, he shouldn't do this.
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Step three, Alex reports on the response without ever actually dealing with the inflammatory thing Trump did that started it, and he's pretending that all this is coming out of nowhere.
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It's a fucking stupid game, and come on. Come on now.
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Yeah, and also, realistically, yeah, he's going to get that. What are you talking about? Is anybody going to stop him? Nobody's going to stop him. Of course he's going to do that.
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I think it would take something large to stop him.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:19.579)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe if the Democrats win the midterms and then immediately 25th Amendment him with cops and shit arresting him and putting him on a boat that goes into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, and then nobody can ever find it again.
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And I'm sorry, you can be president if you get back. You can be president if you get back, but you start in the middle of the ocean.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:41.579)
Are you trying to Thunderbolt Ross this guy?
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I think that's what I'm doing.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:44.579)
Are you trying to Red Hulk him?
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I think that should be how it works.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:47.579)
I don't know if that's going to work.
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Here's what we do. Next 2020, 2028 election, all right? We put all of our presidential candidates in the center of the Atlantic. Whoever gets back is president.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:00.579)
Okay, so we just want a seafaring president.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:05.579)
Exactly. The best leaders have always come from the sea.
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I'm fine with that now. I don't care. Dolphin for president.
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They're the best presidents. Everybody knows that.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:16.579)
Sure. So Alex has some big news that's broken on Twitter, and it's about left wing anti-ice signal groups being infiltrated.
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Uh-oh.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into it right now.
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We have incredible discoveries that I spent hours today researching. Unbelievable.
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Journalists were able to infiltrate the signal chat app used by the Democrats in Minnesota and via that in California, Illinois, you name it.
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And it is state senators, state reps, high level staffers of walls commanding people to harass and attack ICE and stalk them and dox them and foment all this.
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Now, we already knew that was going on, but here is confirmation. Unbelievable.
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And in the signal chat apps feeds are hundreds of videos of, well, I could call them as communists, running these operations.
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So there's your racketeering right there.
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It's one thing to say we're not going to aid federal agents following the Constitution with court orders and warrants.
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That's just obstruction of justice.
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But when you're out there quarterbacking, working with thousands of people and working with NGOs, it is a conspiracy.
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It is racketeering. So I could do the whole four hours tonight on that.
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OK. Just that. Incredible. Because they upload videos of themselves doing it in the meetings they have and in the field and stalking, harassing innocent people, demanding citizens papers.
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I mean, it's everything they claim ICE is doing, they're doing it. With no legal authority.
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So it's pretty shitty that Alex is teeing off on this story and he's not crediting online dipshit Cam Higbee for doing the legwork of hanging out in a bunch of signal chats and taking screenshots.
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Alex is making up a ton of new details and embellishing this story out, but he's basing all of this on the supposed investigation someone else carried out.
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And Cam should get some credit for that.
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Yeah, I think that's smart.
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I read through Cam's tweets on this and honestly it seems like activists organizing.
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There was one tweet where he had a screenshot of someone saying something like they were, quote, expected at home base.
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And Cam commented that he'd been unable to locate where this home base was, but that this was proof that the protesters had a headquarters.
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Seems to me like this person could have easily been talking about going home.
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They're expected by their spouse at home or something.
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Sometimes there's a colloquial language.
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Yeah. This is an almost perfect Infowars primary source.
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It's not really all that scandalous and no one's going to read the stuff that was posted, but the fact that it exists is enough to use as a base upon which you can build whatever you want.
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Protest signal groups were infiltrated by a social media dipshit, so now because that premise is true, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it.
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Make up whatever you want. Soros is in there. Who cares?
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Absolutely. Are you going to go check through all of the screenshots to see if what Alex is making up is true?
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No.
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Alex spent hours researching this.
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Absolutely.
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He read the script to one battle after another.
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Or at the very least he got a couple of them that will back him up. Right?
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He saw some of Cam's tweets.
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Yep. Man, I do like how this is like, not only am I going to ignore the thing that is basically the death knell of any concept of principles, but I'm also going to talk about this extremely low stakes dumbness.
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And that is going to ... I could do hours on that.
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Hours.
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Hours on that. Man, that just sucks.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:02.579)
He should do some hours about the signal groups that his friends were in where they were planning on overthrowing the government on January 6th. Fake news.
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I mean, you know, here's the thing about that. Here's a good lesson. It's illegal until you win. And if you win, it's not illegal.
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Yep.
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So legality is kind of a ...
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Legality is an interesting concept.
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It's a ... it's a Schrodinger's cat in a way.
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So Alex gets back to what you would describe as the most important thing for him to be talking about, which is of course this murder.
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And I think his take on it is bad.
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And we just spent all day showing the new video of the guy getting shot yesterday. We now have the HD of it. It's clear that they thought he had another gun and a bunch of stuff fell on the ground and they got scared and said, gun, gun, and they got his other gun and shot him.
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But they're not going to go to jail for it because they didn't do it on purpose. They thought they were in danger. He came with a gun and stuck himself in the middle of a riot.
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That's like ... I had 35 a few miles from here. People were driving 85 miles an hour on it. And I just stood on the side of the road and just ran out in front of cars.
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Somebody hits me, it's not their fault.
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And it turns out this nurse seems like a nice guy who got killed. His family, with the messages of the public, told him, don't do this, don't do this, be smart.
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I mean, I would not get anywhere near that.
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So the victim didn't bring a gun and decide to get involved in a riot. He went to a protest and legally carried a weapon, something Alex believes is him exercising his first and second amendment rights.
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Understood correctly, Alex is trying to argue that it's too dangerous and tantamount to suicide to exercise your rights if you're opposing Trump's government.
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They will kill you if they feel threatened, and no courts are going to do anything about it.
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Alex believing that militarized police were willing to kill protesters and dissenters, that's nothing new. That's been a feature of his content forever.
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But it's important to recognize that he's not on the people's side anymore.
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If federal agents kill you because they were scared of how you were exercising your rights, that's a shame and you seem like a nice guy, but what do you expect to happen?
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Yeah.
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Fuck this.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:16.579)
Yeah, but the other side of that is like, okay, so then if you are bringing a gun to a protest, you should be ready to murder people with it.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:25.579)
I don't know about that.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:29.579)
In terms of Alex.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:31.579)
Well, yes, if you're Alex, yeah.
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If you're saying like, hey, if you bring a gun to a protest and it's fine for the government to murder you, then you're saying don't bring a gun to a protest.
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Or if you are bringing a gun to a protest, be aware that it is now a firefight.
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I don't understand how he can, like where the line is for any of that.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:53.579)
His messaging makes no sense whatsoever.
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And it's all in service of that old boot that he loves so much.
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You gotta be paid way more. You gotta be paid a lot more.
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I just feel like you gotta be paid a lot more, period, to do shit like this.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.579)
Right. And that's kind of why I think, there's two things that I think. I think it doesn't come down to money. I think that there's something else.
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Sure.
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But then secondarily, I think that this isn't really a betrayal of all the things that he's-
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No, no, no, no.
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He was lying then.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:29.579)
I agree.
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Like this is as true as he can ever be to himself.
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Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:34.579)
He does not give a fuck if you get shot with a gun.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:36.579)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:37.579)
He doesn't care about you having a right to have a gun. He just doesn't want his white Christian extremist friends to have guns.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:45.579)
Totally. Agreed.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:46.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:47.579)
I'm with you. I'm just saying that if you've built up this brand of being the guy who does this stuff, that's leverage.
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That's a higher paycheck. You're not using it appropriately if you're not extorting money from the government.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:00.579)
No, that's true.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:01.579)
You know?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:02.579)
And I think he should rightly be recognizing the amount of danger that he is putting himself in.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:06.579)
Absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:07.579)
The gun rights absolutists are real.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:11.579)
I wouldn't betray them.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:12.579)
Yeah. I think a lot of those right wing audiences that have been radicalized by his actions and his people like his actions,
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I think a lot of them would see this kind of behavior as like, all right, man, you are a betrayer.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:27.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:28.579)
I don't know. It strikes me as something they would not like.
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I mean-
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I would be worried if I were him.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:33.579)
I can't imagine any sort of unintended consequences coming from a bunch of shit talking lunatics radicalizing a bunch of gun toting lunatics as well.
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Yeah.
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Probably going to be fine.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:45.579)
So Alex earlier brought up a story about ICE taking a kid and he gets back to that a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:51.579)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:52.579)
I mean, I've experienced the crime wave of this. So have you.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:56.579)
And so nobody humanizes that, though.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:00.579)
You know the name of the patrol agents shot and killed last year? Do you know the names of the ICE agents shot?
Unknown Speaker (01:07:05.579)
You got to look them up.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:07.579)
But you know the names of the few people that ICE has killed.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:13.579)
And they go, oh, this five year old boy outside of school, they grabbed him as bait.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:17.579)
No, his dad ran off.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:19.579)
Illegal alien with a big rap sheet.
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They just took him into the school.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:25.579)
They admit now that wasn't true, but it's a matter of, oh, they're me, the little boy with his blue octopus hat on.
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So all they have is this emotion and manipulation.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:36.579)
All that stuff Alex is saying in that clip is a lie.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:39.579)
Five year old Liam Ramos was taken by ICE and the Border Patrol in the front yard of his home.
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Witnesses on the scene have said that it was clear that they were trying to hold this child to lure his mother out of her home so they could snatch her up to because they didn't have the ability to enter the house.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:54.579)
The mother refused to come outside, so her child was taken and brought to a detention center where his father was already being held.
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His father was a legal resident of the United States, having applied for asylum in 2024 after leaving Ecuador and following the steps that are required to go through for that process.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:11.579)
He does not have a long criminal rap sheet, and in fact, CNN was unable to find any criminal record for the father either in the United States or in Ecuador.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:19.579)
Alex is lying about this case because it's indefensible.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:23.579)
Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:24.579)
And, uh, yeah.
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Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:27.579)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:31.579)
I mean, I mean, it is it is like, oh, those people are real.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:36.579)
How about that?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:37.579)
How about that?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:38.579)
How about monsters?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:39.579)
Monsters are real.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:40.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:41.579)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:42.579)
So the best thing you can probably do is just lie about them to make everyone feel better for supporting those monsters.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:46.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:47.579)
So ICE, look, they're targeted as hell, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:50.579)
They know what they're doing.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:51.579)
Not enough.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:52.579)
They're out there.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:53.579)
They got warrants and they're just like they're taking care of business.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:57.579)
TCB.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:58.579)
Who's giving them warrants?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:59.579)
Uh, but that's not important.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:01.579)
But look, here's the thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:02.579)
They don't just go around picking up anybody, but then sometimes they do and that's fine, too.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:07.579)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:08.579)
But also they're really targeted.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:09.579)
All right.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:10.579)
Fair enough.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:11.579)
They say in the Podesta plan that when I put articles up, write my report on it, New York Times, it's got a link to it.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:15.579)
You know, they call it what to do if Trump wins the election.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:17.579)
That's the battle plan's actual name.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:21.579)
And it says when they go out to do regular ICE enforcement, which is just the Interior Border Patrol, Immigration Customs Enforcement, they also when people are making fake NFL jerseys or whatever, they go raid the swap meets.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:39.579)
It's their job.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:42.579)
And they just act like they're just they're not police.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:47.579)
It's all illegal.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:48.579)
There's no warrants.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:49.579)
That's not true.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:50.579)
And on, on, on.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:53.579)
Court orders, administrative warrants and regular warrants.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:56.579)
They always have one.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:57.579)
That's why they broke in a few weeks ago, the FBI manager's car.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:01.579)
They're like, look at all this.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:02.579)
They know where these people live and that they're not citizens and what they do and everything.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:06.579)
Well, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:07.579)
And look, they got they got arrest warrants here for them.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:10.579)
They got court.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:11.579)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:13.579)
They just show up somewhere randomly for somebody.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:18.579)
I mean, they've done some stuff like go to Home Depot's, you know, we got like 20 illegals out front every hour.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:24.579)
Kind of they've scooped them up to because Trump did.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:28.579)
They say they did, but I've confirmed they have.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:30.579)
They've got quotas, which I don't think is a good idea.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:34.579)
I said day one and they kind of did this, but kind of did not say just focus on the people with huge criminal records.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:40.579)
But I was like, well, OK, well, we're out doing this.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:42.579)
We run other people that are illegally and.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:45.579)
Once you get them.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:46.579)
So you can't have it both ways.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:48.579)
Either ICE is disciplined and they're actually out hunting down super criminal targets,
Unknown Speaker (01:10:52.579)
or they're randomly picking up people they suspect might be in the country illegally in a big dragnet.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:57.579)
If they're rounding up large groups from the Home Depot, then their operations are not targeted.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:02.579)
Alex understands the difference and he doesn't care.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:05.579)
This is bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:06.579)
Yeah. I mean, it's it's interesting when trying to defend them,
Unknown Speaker (01:11:12.579)
you only make it more obvious that they're a state backed terrorist organization.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:16.579)
Yeah. Right. And they have quotas and are lying about it.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:19.579)
Yeah. That's that's the craziest thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:21.579)
Oh, so they're a state backed terrorist organization that has no law or oversight whatsoever.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:26.579)
And if you're giving them a warrant, I guess you're part of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:30.579)
Yeah. Hey, judge, judge, go fuck yourself. Who thinks that you're not a bad guy?
Unknown Speaker (01:11:34.579)
You're in ICE now. It's shocking how much they're just going after their targets who are horrible criminals.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:40.579)
And also sometimes they just pick up a bunch of people, you know,
Unknown Speaker (01:11:43.579)
it's just randomly and see if any of them are criminals because it's fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:46.579)
Yeah. They they went after all the horrible criminals on week one.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:51.579)
There were about eight. And then they were like, well, it turns out maybe all of our propaganda is bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:56.579)
So instead, let's just grab random people. I honestly think that's generous of you.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:00.579)
I know. I know. So Alex gets back to the guy who got shot.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:06.579)
Sure. And yeah, he seems to have decided to go with the metaphor of like it's playing in traffic.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:14.579)
It was playing in traffic. Yeah. They had a million people protesting up there this weekend.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:19.579)
And one guy with a gun and he gets tackled and then there's stuff flying around and things falling out and clips on the ground and gun, gun, gun.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:28.579)
And in hysteria, he is shot. Yeah. Don't play in traffic.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:34.579)
Sad he's dead. But the point is, they created the chaos and said they're going to create the chaos to get this done.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:42.579)
So they started it. It's their plan to do this. They're the bad guys.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:49.579)
Again, ISIS, ten thousand enforcers. On the enforcement side against 40 million illegals.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:56.579)
I'm surprised under the incredible pressure they're in. They haven't had more mistakes, you could say.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:02.579)
But it wasn't intentional. And he came to that event and he was armed. And that's what happened.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:08.579)
So they they will not be convicted. Believe me, they're not happy about that.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:12.579)
They're going to get lawyers, they're going to get sued. They're going to get docs. They're trying to not do that.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:16.579)
But they're like gun, gun, gun. He had a gun. Bunch of stuff falls out on the ground. They think it's a gun.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:20.579)
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That's their highly trained folks.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:24.579)
These are almost all former police and military. They're not hiring wimps, as you can see.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:30.579)
And they're also not playing around, folks. They're being screamed at and attacked all day long, surrounded.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:35.579)
And then you want to go insert yourself in the middle of it. You're asking for it, folks.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:42.579)
It'd be like if there was a 50 mile an hour, 100 mile an hour windstorm and I went up to Mount Benel in Austin, the highest point, and stood on the edge of a cliff.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:51.579)
And then I get blown off the cliff and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to die.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:55.579)
Well, yeah, I mean, you don't get in high wind and stay on the edge of a freaking cliff. Don't play in traffic.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:00.579)
So it's important to understand the conceptual framework Alex is operating in here.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:05.579)
This guy who federal agents killed has to be blamed for his own death because every other conclusion requires you to reexamine whether or not ICE should be operating, how they do.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:14.579)
And Alex, if he teases that threat out, has to become an enemy of the state.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:19.579)
There's no other direction to go with it.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:21.579)
The only thing that makes his death in any way debatable is the fact that he had a gun on him.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:26.579)
That doesn't make the shooting justified, but it's the big what about that the Trump media has chosen to latch onto, as seen by so many members of the administration and other media figures.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:36.579)
It's the variable that makes this an unfortunate accident instead of a murder.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:41.579)
So a guy with a gun at a protest is to blame for their own death if the feds kill him.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:46.579)
That's the standard that we're starting with.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:48.579)
But right off the bat, it's clear that Alex wouldn't defend that.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:52.579)
He's loved gun-toting protesters in the past, and multiple times he's had guests on his show only because they were on local TV carrying big guns at protests against Obama.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:03.579)
From that, we learn that it can't just be the act of carrying a gun at a protest that Alex feels is like playing in traffic, where if you do it, you're to blame for your own death.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:13.579)
That means we need to figure out what the variables are here that make it okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:18.579)
It seems like the next meaningful factor Alex goes into is that the Democrats and globalists have raised the temperature and created a dangerous environment.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:26.579)
So if one side is escalating and creating social unrest, then it's okay for the feds to kill you if you're at a protest with a gun.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:34.579)
But this can't be Alex's position either, because he was very aggressive about supporting the heavily armed trucker protests during COVID.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:42.579)
They were creating a very heightened dangerous environment, and tons of them were openly carrying guns.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:49.579)
Certainly Alex wouldn't just shake his head and say, oh what a shame if one of those protesters, one of those people was killed because the feds got scared.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:57.579)
The next thing Alex seems to bring up is that there were people yelling, and this guy got killed. He put himself in the center of things.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:05.579)
This one is the easiest variable to dismiss, because that's just a guy exercising his first amendment rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:11.579)
See, Alex can't possibly think that that's what justifies his death.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:15.579)
So after we take in the rationalizations that Alex has to offer, we don't really come away with any clarity.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:21.579)
We hope for some kind of actual explanation for why this situation is different, why this is an instance of the feds killing a citizen that's okay for Alex,
Unknown Speaker (01:16:30.579)
whereas in the past that would have marked the beginning of 1776 part 2.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:35.579)
And the unfortunate truth that you have to come to is that the joke is on us for imagining that there's a depth to the question at all.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:42.579)
We demand a depth because the clown made us think that.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:48.579)
But the truth is Alex just doesn't believe the people who disagree with him deserve rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:53.579)
That's it.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:55.579)
Yep, on a rolling basis. On a day-to-day...
Unknown Speaker (01:16:58.579)
But that is kind of the truth of the malignant narcissist psychopath.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:05.579)
I don't really believe anybody else is real. So there's that.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:09.579)
Yeah, and I'm hip to that, and I think that's great. No, I don't think it's great, but it can't be policy.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:16.579)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:17.579)
We can't live in a world where that kind of capriciousness dictates rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:23.579)
I know the, like, who determines who's a malignant narcissist and who gets to determine who gets to do what and what not,
Unknown Speaker (01:17:31.579)
but if, again, I feel like we have created something of a Mendoza line in Alex, if you do Alex shit, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:39.579)
No. I don't even care. I don't even need to know details. No. If you're doing Alex shit, no. The end.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:48.579)
I can't argue with that.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:50.579)
Right?
Unknown Speaker (01:17:51.579)
I think it needs to be fleshed out, but no is a good response.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:55.579)
If Alex is never again law, anything that Alex does is illegal now.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:01.579)
No one can drink water again?
Unknown Speaker (01:18:03.579)
Fine. You know what? You're not going to drink water anymore, and then the problem will solve itself.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:08.579)
Joke's on you. I drink Diet Duct Pepper.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:11.579)
Anyway, we got one last clip.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:13.579)
And it's just, I think I can't stand listening to this shot voice.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:20.579)
And he's already made all the points that he needs to make.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:23.579)
This is an invasion to break our country, Cloward and Piven, replacement migration on record.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:29.579)
The Podesta plan is to use this to trigger a civil war. We have them.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:33.579)
So, yeah, I'll individually get on ice, sash, when somebody makes a mistake or does something wrong, but they are responding to the takeover.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:40.579)
They are the literal frontline in the attempt to take down this country.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:47.579)
Look at the thankless job, the David versus Goliath job. Look at the attacks.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:53.579)
Yeah, they're warriors. They're heroes.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:59.579)
And some listeners want to say, oh, my God, you're sucking the weenie of the police state.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:02.579)
No, I'm not. The police state is the Democrats and the left and them wanting to take our kids and brainwash us and take our speech.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:09.579)
When you have illegal aliens run by the Democratic Party committing mass crimes and the left telling their people go out and riot.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:15.579)
And we've still got men and women willing to go out there.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:20.579)
And face this attack to do their job, get child molesters, arsonists, murderers, bank robbers, carjackers on the streets.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:28.579)
Let me tell you, I wouldn't take a job because I'm going to tell you right now.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:35.579)
Somebody starts spitting in my face, hit me in the head with a big old piece of ice. I go crazy.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:40.579)
Somebody rams my car. I would be as controlled as they are. Oh, good.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:43.579)
You wouldn't be as controlled as the people who just killed a guy. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:47.579)
I don't know how you can be less controlled, but whatever. I think that I think that this is pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:53.579)
Yeah. Yeah. I imagine this is exactly what it must have been like to like listen to a member of the clan talk
Unknown Speaker (01:20:01.579)
shortly after they had just lynched an innocent dude. Mm hmm.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:05.579)
Just like, well, yeah, well, they're all criminals and shit. And it's like, you know, they're not.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:10.579)
You know, you're a murderer. You know, you know, you know this. You know what it's like.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:14.579)
It's like watching somebody who is too much of a coward to admit that he's part of the clan.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:20.579)
Yeah. Justifying a lynching after it's happened. Totally.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:24.579)
That's like, oh, they were under threat. They had to because Alex Alex is too much of a fucking coward to put on the hood.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:31.579)
Yep. Like I'm not saying, hey, there's some dignity in being a member of the clan or anything like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:37.579)
If that's the lesson you take away from this show. Good fucking luck to you.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:41.579)
Yeah. No, Alex won't even own up to that. Like the fact that that's where his heart is.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:47.579)
He'll say that the clan doesn't even exist. You're the one making it up. In fact, it's everybody else.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:51.579)
The clan is the civil rights movement. Exactly. The clan is the Modesto people.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:54.579)
And then they're just trying to. Yeah. No, it is. It is like.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:58.579)
If you are this, then not only do I not think that you can make it back, I will also not allow you to make it back.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:08.579)
Oh, absolutely not. You know, like, and not even like, I don't even mean like become a better person. Fuck off.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:14.579)
You are a piece of shit. If you try and turn your life around, I will come to your house and make you feel like a piece of shit more.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:20.579)
Yeah. You know, like you should for the rest of your life be hounded and miserable.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:27.579)
Well, whether or not hounded and miserable is true, because I don't know if, you know, people need to be.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:34.579)
Hey, I'm not going to hire somebody to do it.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:38.579)
Right. And I'm all I. Here's where I want to agree with you. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:42.579)
There isn't a road back. No, there can't be. There is no like this will be to the rest of Alex's life.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:49.579)
Yep. For his legacy. I want to get to the point where eventually he tries to change his brand.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:56.579)
Yeah. Because you can't. Yeah. And I think I just I don't I don't know. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:03.579)
This can't possibly I mean, it's obviously not the first time that Alex's had positions that were like strongly counter to his gun rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:11.579)
Sure, sure, sure, sure. But again, it's fucking flagrant. Yeah, you can. It's brazen.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:15.579)
And as we're seeing, because we're recording this on the 27th, the tide's shifting a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:23.579)
The Trump administration is starting to feel the heat a little bit about like this one not being good.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:30.579)
We'll see. So what does Alex do then?
Unknown Speaker (01:22:33.579)
Says that it's also smart for them to here's what you do.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:37.579)
You say that it's smart to pretend to take responsibility for this just to give them one.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:43.579)
And then you can make them go away and yada yada yada. Yeah, you're probably right. This is a tactical move.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:47.579)
It's a strategic move. It doesn't mean they're admitting guilt because they'll never admit guilt for anything.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:53.579)
And that guy should have been killed. But strategically, the smart move is to give one to the mob.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:59.579)
We're going to find out if that is his take on our next episode. But until then, fuck this shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:08.579)
We have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:11.579)
Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo Mdzx Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:16.579)
Woo yeah woo yeah woo.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:19.579)
And now here comes the sex robots.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:21.579)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:25.579)
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:28.579)
I love you.
