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Yes they do like it.
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We are where Washington is.
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We are who we are.
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This is Chinese culture and we will love you, it's easy.
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Now Erica why does it matter to your poor Indeed story and question why it's the opposed
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family is Dock, slow down the paragraphs always uh.
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as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and George.
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Knowledge fight.
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Riddle Earth.
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Riddle Earth.
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Riddle Earth.
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I need, I need money.
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Riddle Earth.
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Riddle Earth.
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Riddle Earth.
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Andy and Chansles.
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Andy and Chansles.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Chansles.
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Andy and Chansles.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Chansles, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge fight dot com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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Well, it is January so as a tradition you go first.
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Oh that's true.
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I guess my bright spot is today I would say for the first time in a while I finally feel
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like I'm over the sickness.
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That's great.
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Like I've kind of still got a little bit in my throat.
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I got a little bit in the back of my head but I was doing my full exercise this morning
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and I didn't suddenly go, so that was great.
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I feel back at it.
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So you're basically the reverse of ooh-ah-ah-ah.
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I am now ow-ooh-ooh-ooh.
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Right.
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Yep.
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Congratulations on being ooh-ah-ooh-ooh.
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Auk-auk.
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Auk-auk indeed.
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Up with the health.
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Yeah, I'm feeling, yeah, no, I feel good.
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I took my little bandage off my tattoo finally.
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Got to watch that.
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Have you shown the good people of America the tattoo?
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No.
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Because I know that some people had wanted to see it.
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No, I don't do social media.
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Yeah, I know, but some people wanted to see it.
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I mean do you want to show people?
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I don't know, it's your body.
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It is my body and my choice.
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I know that some people online are like I want to get a look at that piece.
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You talk so highly of this artist and you're the tat guy.
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We'll figure something out.
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Okay, I mean eventually I feel like someone wants to see it.
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We'll figure that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, alright.
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Alright.
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Cool.
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Well I'm glad you're feeling better.
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What do you got with your Haribos?
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Well it is January so as is tradition we're going to have to consult this Haribo advent
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calendar.
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Here we go.
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Dan eats the bear.
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Thank you so much to Zachary for that.
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Oh, I apologize.
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This is from the band Murmatron.
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I like it.
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So thank you so much Murmatron.
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Good work Murmatron, I appreciate that.
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Direct to the point.
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And I eat the bear.
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You do eat the bear.
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Unfortunately too many of these are bears.
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Just bears.
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So we're going to the 16th.
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Alright.
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Oh.
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Here we go, what do we got?
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It looks different.
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Does it?
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It is a, oh it looks like a now and later kind of thing.
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Can they do that?
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Or a Laffy Taffy.
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It's a gummy Laffy Taffy?
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It's Maowam.
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Maowam?
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M A O A M. I noticed that some of these things are labeled that as like a brand.
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It might be an offshoot brand of Haribo.
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This looks like a happy raspberry.
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Interesting.
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Is there a joke?
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Oh, I gotcha.
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Here you go.
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Oh wow.
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Look at you Mr. Fantastic.
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I'm quick, I'm quick.
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Bendy.
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I don't see a joke.
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But I'm going to open this up and try it and here's the part with your vamp.
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My vamp today is going to be about the traders.
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Now obviously there's the main traders, the US traders starring the great Alan Cummings,
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who's fucking killing it of course.
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But also concurrently there is the UK traders with just regular ass people.
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Hosted by a woman who is famous in Britain for being a raven or something.
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And I was thinking about the difference between the two of them.
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The great part of the traders in the UK, the real people traders, is that they don't know
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what they're allowed to do.
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They don't understand that there's no real rules yet.
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The people on the US traders, so many of them have their self-created personas is kind of
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their job.
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Like, who am I?
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I'm the person who does this.
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This is what I do.
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They've played other reality TV shows so they kind of understand what producers are going
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to, like what lines are going to be.
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Like you can't cross this line.
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They're aware of editing.
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And these people are just baby birds.
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Just baby birds and some of them are there to play the game, but they are not really
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aware of the reality TV game around the game.
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They're not really aware of the like, well maybe I want to be back on season 20 of the
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traders.
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Where's all these...
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I'm going to launch a brand or I'm going to continue my brand through this appearance.
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Yep.
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All these US people.
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It's a little annoying.
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I know that we were talking about it and you were saying you fucking love this Rap-a-port
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guy though.
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Fuck off.
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You said you were pulling for him?
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The worst dude ever.
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It is so funny whenever you know.
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I knew he was the worst and my wife had no idea.
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She was like, oh he's from movies.
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And I was like, you're... and then he is the worst.
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When I saw that casting decision I was like, this is a mess.
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What are they doing?
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And it lived up to it.
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And it was.
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So that's fine.
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Yep.
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It's different.
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I will give it credit that it is different than all the rest of the gummies and stuff
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that have been in this.
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But it's...
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I don't care.
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Not in its favor but otherwise...
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Faint praise.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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And it might be a little bit shorter.
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And that is because today is a monumentous day.
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We gotta go see the Bone Temple.
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We gotta go see the Bone Temple.
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We got tickets to the first screening of the Bone Temple.
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It's a huge day.
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Been waiting for quite a while for this because I love that 28 days later.
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Love that 28 years later.
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Love that Bone Temple.
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We're about to find out how much we love the Bone Temple.
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Yeah.
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I think that it's really critical that this be decent.
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Because I think it could really ruin the first one if it's a mess.
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I really think that it's... but the first one's good enough that I have high hopes.
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So we'll see eventually when we... future episodes.
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Perhaps my vamp will be very heavily focused on the Bone Temple.
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And how wrong I was for having hope.
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But we'll see.
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We'll find out.
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But until we know, let's do an episode.
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And let's start by saying hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Rory Manganis.
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We're proud of your work.
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Don't forget the Shy Pot L sauce.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Hello!
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Next, I too find my phone navigation too convenient to not use and it has destroyed my sense of
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direction.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And Dan, I saw you.
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You're literally above me waiting for the dollop.
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Like right now.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Yep.
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I probably was spotted in the lobby of the... what theater was that?
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The Vic?
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Is it the Vic?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Well, anyway, I was there.
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Yep, we were.
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Thank you for seeing me.
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We also have a technocrat in the mix.
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So thank you so much to Evan and Brent.
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Don't trust Paul.
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Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark!
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Also, we can timestamp things a little bit about that sighting because you were also
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there.
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Yes.
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But you showed up late.
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I did.
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So the fact that they didn't say that both of us were there means I was spotted before
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you arrived.
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Right.
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When I was just hanging out with Angela Lampsbury and her partner.
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Or that it is a enjoyable and exciting experience to see you and a let's hope non-talk-about-able
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to see me.
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In any case, I can't imagine.
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So today we're going to be talking about January 4th.
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This is Alex's Sunday show after Trump has taken Maduro.
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Sure.
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And obviously it's time that we rationalize this and we live in the world post regime
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change.
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Sure.
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And so Alex starts off the show with that being his main focus.
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That's why when Hegseth came out and the reporters like this is like Iraq regime change,
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he says it's the opposite.
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Because the previous regime change was about destabilizing the Middle East and balkanizing
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it.
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The United States wants to go in and have free and fair elections and turn Venezuela
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of its own power back into the most wealthy country in Latin America.
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But you have to know the history.
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You have to know the Monroe Doctrine.
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You have to know what gunboat diplomacy is.
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You have to know the Barbary policy of Thomas Jefferson.
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You have to understand all of that to understand this is a no brainer.
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So one thing that anyone listening to Alex's show could not help but notice is that in
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the past six months or so, he's been constantly making references to Thomas Jefferson and
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his Barbary Coast precedent.
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This is a reference to the Barbary Wars of the early 1800s where Jefferson sent Marines
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to fight against pirates in the waters near Tripoli.
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The idea is supposed to be that these pirates posed a national security threat so Jefferson
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was within his right to attack and kill them at sea, which is then used as an argument
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that Trump has the right to do this with the Venezuelan boats.
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It was part of the justification of Trump's militaristic action.
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This idea is combined with references to the Monroe Doctrine, which is a bit convoluted.
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The Monroe Doctrine essentially says that the US has control over everything in the
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Western Hemisphere, so any hostile powers trying to take over countries on our half
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of the world can be seen as enemies.
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This has nothing to do with Jefferson's actions during the Barbary Wars because that was centered
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around North African states which are in the Eastern Hemisphere.
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The point I'm making here is that Thomas Jefferson Barbary War stuff is a talking point, and
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I'm pretty convinced that he's been told to push this by someone else.
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It's not a point that he ever brought up before 2020, and even then it was in the context
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of an interview with a historian talking about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary Wars.
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It was not to defend sinking boats.
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It was a fun fact back then, and now this is a piece of information.
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And precedent and shit.
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Typically when the Barbary Wars were mentioned on Infowars, it was because someone was trying
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to insist that white people weren't the only ones who ever engaged in slave trafficking.
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That context changed on September 4th, 2025, after which point Alex began consistently
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repeating this new talking point about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary War as a justification
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for Trump sinking Venezuelan boats.
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What I'm getting at here is I don't believe this is organic.
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If Alex truly felt like Jefferson's attack on the Barbary pirates justified whatever
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military actions a president could argue were meant to protect the American people,
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then it would have come up in conversations about things like the invasion of Grenada
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or Clinton's planned attack on Haiti.
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Probably.
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I would bet that someone like Roger Stone or General Flynn advised Alex to start justifying
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the boat attacks using this language because the increase is just too much to be a coincidence.
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And he didn't come up with this on his own.
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The same thing is happening now more recently with the term gunboat diplomacy.
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Alex is starting to use that expression more as a way to justify Trump's belligerent actions
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against other countries.
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Peace through strength was an acceptable maxim to throw out until you had real military actions
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and overthrows that you needed to spin, and it feels to me like this appealing to gunboat
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diplomacy is the way Alex is trying to escalate that.
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The problem is that gunboat diplomacy means a number of different things to different
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people.
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For political science types, it usually refers to a country replacing their diplomatic efforts
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with threats, so the international agreements they make aren't based on shared self-interest,
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but rather on one party knowing that the other will kill them if they violate the agreement.
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Or even more to the point, it involves more powerful countries using displays of their
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superior maritime weaponry as a means of coercing less powerful countries to make those agreements
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in the first place.
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Alex fully understands and opposes this practice, as he's made clear repeatedly about China's
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actions in the South China Sea.
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He cannot actually support the principle of gunboat diplomacy without giving up any reason
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why he should care about the idea of China invading Taiwan.
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From my position of having listened to a ton of the show, I don't believe that Alex supports
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gunboat diplomacy as a concept, but there's a larger issue.
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On Infowars, gunboat diplomacy is not a concept that involves a state intimidating another
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state using a show of strength.
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On Alex's show, the term has a specific meaning, and it is about corporate imperialism.
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Here's him explaining this to a caller from April 2004.
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Huh.
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The way Alex is using the term gunboat diplomacy in 2026 doesn't match how he's always used
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it in the past.
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In the past, the term has always meant something specific.
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The only context Alex ever used the term gunboat diplomacy is captured here in this clip from 2011.
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They give him a $20 million loan, and openly it would come out and tell him, don't pay
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this back, leave in one year with the money to Switzerland or to New York.
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That's why a lot of Mexican presidents actually moved to New York after they steal a bunch
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of money.
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Just a few decades ago that happened, or in the mid-90s.
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So it's the same system.
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Or they go to Switzerland.
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That's kind of the place where they nest, and it's a free zone they allow.
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And then the public's told, well, with interest, it's been 10 years.
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You don't owe us 20 million in 1905.
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You owe us 300 million.
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And the country says, back then, that was before the inflation we have, it was equivalent
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to 300 billion or something.
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They said, we don't even make that in 20 years.
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We can't pay it.
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Oh, that's fine.
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From the shores of Montezuma, from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.
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And the Marine Corps top general, two-time congressional Medal of Honor winner, Spendley
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Butler finally quit and went public and said, look, it's all about money.
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These people don't owe it.
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We invade them.
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In Infowars language, gunboat diplomacy refers to the practice of the IMF and World Bank
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giving corrupt leaders in struggling countries huge debts that they know can never be repaid.
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The leader plays ball and gets to be rich in Switzerland, but they've sold out their
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country which goes broke because of their inability to pay the loan, at which point
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the globalists come in and buy up all their infrastructure.
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If their leader doesn't play ball, we send in the Navy and the military.
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This was the only context Alex ever used the term until December, 2025.
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After that point, he started using it to mean the more traditional definition of the expression,
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which is to use military and particularly Naval intimidation to force American foreign
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policy objectives.
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And he started presenting this as a positive thing that is good that Trump is getting back
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to.
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If Alex thinks the US should impose its will on the rest of the Western hemisphere through
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murder and threats of wars, then he should just say that.
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He probably feels like he can't because he spent so much of his career pretending to
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love freedom and hate empires, but he needs to get over that hurdle.
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This is just bullshit.
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I understand that no villain ever really just comes out and says, hey, I'm the bad guy,
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but if you pay any attention to Alex, notice the language that he's using, the way things
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are changing, he's sending the message pretty fucking clear.
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It does seem pretty obvious.
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Almost stark in its alteration, making it even clearer.
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You know, like at least again, but that's what makes him so much better than everybody
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else is he doesn't bother with subtlety.
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No, no.
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You want me to say this?
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Now I'm going to say it all the fucking time.
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And I always did.
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I always said it.
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Sure.
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You can see a transcript of everything that I've said for the past 30 years and I didn't
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say it right.
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But didn't I though?
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Have you seen the white papers?
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Ah, Montezuma.
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See what's what's wrong is that I should have said it back then.
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So why don't we moving forward?
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Just assume I did say it back then.
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See, that makes more sense.
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It's cool.
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Yeah.
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Um, I find this to be sloppy on his part and I don't think he should use these expressions
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that have loaded histories for himself.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but oh well.
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It's funny to me how many different expressions we have to just avoid saying extortion.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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We want your share.
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We are going to take it.
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That's the end of this story.
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How do you want this conversation to go is up to you.
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We use however many euphemisms you like.
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Yeah.
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We got things that go boom.
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Absolutely.
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And you are susceptible to things going boom.
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Let me try and explain this.
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It's illegal when the mob does it, but we're a country.
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Yeah.
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Uh, Trump, uh, he is gonna get in there and he is going to fucking run this Venezuelan
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shit.
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He's going to be so good and it's so in line with Alex's beliefs.
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Like you can't even believe it.
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That's nice.
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And if you look at every point, richest oil country in the world production down 95% the
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communists just can't even run anything.
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They're people starving to death.
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Absolute hell.
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Trump doesn't have to spend us money.
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The oil companies will go in.
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He oversees it.
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It makes them redistribute the majority of the wealth of the people.
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You've already seen him do that policy wise here where he told oil companies when he got
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in here ago, he said, all right, you're not really getting any profits.
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National security slash prices, massively increased production.
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You got the Saudis increased production at the same time.
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She said, I want to help the whole world.
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We have to lower inflation globally, which is true.
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If you pay attention to Alex, you cannot possibly believe that he believes anything.
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Every single thing about his political ideology should strongly oppose Trump telling oil companies
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how to do business.
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The idea that Trump could tell companies how to manage supply and demand so he can manipulate
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prices is a state run economy, which is a critical piece of what he's supposed to hate
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about communist countries like China.
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Trump telling oil companies to slash their prices and that they can make no profits is
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a horrible transgression of what Alex's worldview is supposed to be based on, but he can pretend
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Trump is doing it and he reports that to the audience as a positive because he knows that
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even his audience kind of wants socialist leaning policies, even if they don't know
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the words.
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Everyone except people who profit from oil companies hate oil companies.
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Everyone except people who profit from insurance companies hate insurance companies.
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Everyone kind of gets that the game is rigged and the smug libertarian contrarianism of
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the late to mid two thousands, it isn't fun for teens anymore.
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So no one's doing it.
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It's not edgy to be that libertarian dork.
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Now you got to go full Nazi if you want that.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And it's easier.
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It is so much easier.
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Yeah.
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The kid who probably would have been like, I read the Mises website.
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Like that kid's just racist now.
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Yep.
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He doesn't have to try.
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Yeah.
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That's the good stuff.
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This stuff that Alex is saying, like in that clip, it isn't true.
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But even if you pretend that it is, he should declare war on Trump for doing it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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He should be horrified.
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Yeah.
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It is something that has become more and more clear in our present time that I misunderstood
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how the world works based on how words work.
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Right.
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Like to me, a principle was only really confirmed when it sucked.
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Yep.
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You know, like that whole idea of free speech, protect speech, you hate speech.
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You like, fuck me.
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It sucks to do this.
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That is, but it's a principle.
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So I have to, right.
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It feels like that is something that other people did not particularly find interesting.
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Like every time people find a principle and they're like, oh, it sucks to have this principle
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right now.
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They just change it.
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True.
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And I think that a lot of the people who are busy off changing their principles are a lot
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of the people who would rant and crow at you about how principles are only important when
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they're inconvenient.
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Sure.
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I would love for kids to be safer in schools, but what about the guns?
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What about the guns?
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What if we encroach on the right of people to have guns?
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We can't.
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Yeah.
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So fucking principled.
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Yeah.
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So fucking principled.
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I think that is a form of gaslighting that exists on a large scale for most of our lives.
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Yeah.
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It's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Because it is something that I'm listening to him talk and it's like, I guess people
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will listen to the reasons maybe I guess and think like, oh, this is a good reason
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to do this thing.
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But in my head it's like, oh, you can give me all the reasons you want, but that you
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can't do the thing.
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So because you did the thing, none of your reasons mean anything to me.
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You fucked up.
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Um, right.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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There's, there's probably some edge cases where somebody does something that you instinctively
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think and maybe no is wrong and then you could be persuaded by reasons.
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Sure.
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Like there may be some cases like that, but yeah, generally the actions are, you know,
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it's pretty tough to justify when the action is the action.
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Yeah.
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Sorry man.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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So through those actions that Trump is taking, there is an argument that could be made, I
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believe that the rules are changing.
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International rules changing to the point of non-existence maybe?
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Well.
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And so Alex celebrates this return to chaos.
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Okay.
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So by Trump grabbing $18 trillion in oil that's now on the US ballot sheet and that's damn
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rights what it is.
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What do you think we did until the globalist era after World War II?
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You think the US didn't go around grabbing stuff before?
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Think we didn't grab Cuba from Spain and then turn around and give it to them?
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As long as, you know, they let us have a military base there for God.
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I mean, the US has been the partner to have that won't screw you over and let you run
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things just don't screw us until the end of World War II and then the CIA and we become
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globalists and then all the things that came out of it because we're working for globalist
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interest, British empire interest, new world order interest, not the people's interest.
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But if you think in this world that we can have our country and just hide in it and can't
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be engaged or can't be involved, but I got a bridge I'm happy to sell you.
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So we're going back to US policy here.
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The bridge that he's sold you is his career.
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Yeah.
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Like he's already done it if anyone is listening.
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You've actually purchased quite a few bridges over the years.
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Yeah.
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The info warriors.
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Good for you.
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So this is a fine position for Alex to have.
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And I want to be clear that I respect him saying it explicitly.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with his position.
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And I think it's delusional to pretend that this doesn't just benefit giant corporations
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and tyrants, but I think it's closer to what Alex sincerely supports.
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In 2008, when he was trying to boost his career by latching onto Ron Paul supporters who were
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mostly mad about the war, do you think he would have said anything like that?
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Not getting involved in foreign wars was a central piece of the messaging back then.
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So Alex pushed that.
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Alex was positioned against the system and regardless of whether Bush or Clinton or Obama
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was in office, they were representatives of the system and they were doing the wars.
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It's super easy to be opposed to their wars and then convince your audience that you're
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principally opposed to all war and you're not.
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Make no mistake about it.
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Alex built his career on the illusion that he was opposed to things like colonialist
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adventure and regime change because of principles that he believed in about things like freedom,
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sovereignty, and non-interventionism.
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He presented himself as the alternative to the hawks like Rush Limbaugh and the Fox News
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crowd, and without that fiction, he never would have been able to sell himself to a
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larger audience.
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People who weren't extreme right-wingers and racists were drawn to him because they were
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pissed the fuck off about the Iraq war and he was giving them a message that they could
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get behind and it seemed to transcend politics.
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People like Tucker would get in their bow ties and argue on TV about how Bush was right
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to attack Iraq and Afghanistan, but Alex told the audience that you were more likely
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to get struck by lightning than ever meet a terrorist and that the war was being sold
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to you on false pretenses.
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The people who were pissed off about the war agreed with that and because Alex was saying
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it, it made him look like he was more honest than his competitors.
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But how many of the people who marched with no blood for oil signs would have gotten on
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board with Alex saying that the US should take stuff and plunder freely, like how things
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were before the World War II international order?
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How seriously could any of these people ever have taken him if his argument against the
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war wasn't that it was happening, but he didn't like the people benefiting from it?
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The argument for why the globalists are bad is supposed to be that they do bad things,
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like carry out regime change wars in order to steal resources.
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By accepting and celebrating Trump doing the exact same thing, Alex has in effect removed
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the whole reason to oppose them.
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Because the guy who made millions of dollars as the anti-system guy now has to be a cheerleader
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for the system, he can no longer keep up the charade that any of the stuff that he used
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to care about matters.
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The principles he used to mask as his mask, they're all destroyed.
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And what's left of it is the shit that was there all along and was the real motivating
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factor which is white nationalism, Christian identity, protection of business interests
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over people, and colonialist exploitation of Uyghur countries' natural resources.
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That's really what this is all about.
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Yeah.
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What a weird team to join.
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What a weird team to have secretly been on.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It feels like it wasn't worth it.
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But maybe, I mean, just going by everything that he's done, said how he's lived, all the
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things that I know about him, I would say it's not worth it.
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But you know, maybe somewhere in his head it was.
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At least Alex finally freed the children.
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Yes, that is nice.
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That was nice of him.
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Fucking prick.
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Yeah, no, I find his...
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It's this weird mix of, fuck you, and also like, thanks.
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Thanks for just saying this.
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Like kind of no.
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There was the part that was annoying in like, you know, 05, 06 where it's like, oh, we're
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helping the people of Iraq.
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We're there for the people.
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It's because Saddam is evil and we're there for the people.
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But man, they didn't even give them that one.
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They didn't even give us that one.
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They were just like, buddy, we're going to steal their oil.
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Yeah, but now it's in reverse.
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Right.
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Like what's happening is essentially, you know, Trump is immediately being like, I want
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that oil, baby.
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I'm going to steal it.
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I'm going to steal their stuff.
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I'm stealing their stuff.
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And now is a part of rationalizing that it's Alex's job to explain to the audience...
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It is good for the people.
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Right.
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For us to steal all of their stuff.
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We're going to give the money to the people of Venezuela.
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They're going to be great.
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That sounds true.
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Right.
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Based on things we've done in the past.
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It's just a silly mirror of the exact same shit.
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Same kind of excuses and arguments being made.
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It's just the main difference that we've experienced so far is that there isn't like a giant insurgency
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that's happening right now in Venezuela.
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Yeah.
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Although who knows what happens down the road.
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Exactly.
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So anyway, Alex immediately, like yesterday on this show, he was like, Trump looks at
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this shit and he's like, I could build a lot of hotels down there.
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Because he's a hospitality guy.
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Oh great.
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He's a hospitality guy.
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Yeah.
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And so some people laughed at him about that.
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Sure.
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Because it was crazy.
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Yes.
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And now he's a little defensive about how people were making fun of him.
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I've also seen, I'll get to this, because it's not about me, but it's an example of
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propaganda.
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All these big Democrat talk show hosts taking a clip out of context yesterday, like a 30
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second clip, where I'm saying Trump loves to see golf courses and Trump towers and everybody
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happy and a future for his kids.
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And that got translated into Trump's doing this so he has Trump golf courses and towers
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and so his kids can make billions.
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No, I explained how when he went and met with Kim Jong Un and showed him a video graphic
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of look how wealthy South Korea is.
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You could be that way with all these factories and businesses and golf courses and hotels.
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And Kim Jong Un reportedly cried and said, China won't let me.
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Oh my God.
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So I was explaining Trump doesn't like war.
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He likes prosperity.
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He's a hospitality man.
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He doesn't like plunging economies.
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That's not good for business.
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But the headline is Jones can't wait for corporations to loot Venezuela and fantasizes
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about the about Don Jr. making billions.
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Didn't say Don Jr. didn't list a company.
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None of that.
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Trump said, we're going to go in there and get their people production up and get them
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jobs and get them their money.
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Is that what he said?
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And we've seen him do that.
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Is there tax on tips and all the other things he's done to try to every policy is what he
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does.
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And the Democrats try to stay in the way of that.
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So Alex did literally say that Trump looks at a country like Venezuela and just sees
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the potential to build Trump hotels and golf courses there.
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He can pretend this was taken out of context all he wants, but he's fucking lying.
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It was on our last episode.
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Yeah.
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Larger issue, though, the explanation of the context here that Alex is doing doesn't make
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it better.
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Alex is just explaining that Trump likes to do whatever works best for corporate interests,
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and he demands on getting a cut himself.
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Something Alex brings up is an example of something that's meant to benefit the corporations,
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including the no tax on tips thing.
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It's great for working people not to have to pay tax on tips, but that's also part of
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a larger negotiation that involves employers not having to pay tipped positions, fair base
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wages.
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It looks like a huge win for the workers when you only consider the no tax on tips part.
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But when you look at the bigger picture, this is a perfect pressure release valve for the
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corporations to continue making more money.
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They don't have to pay their tipped employees anything more than they did before, but the
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employee theoretically walks home with more money.
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Collected tax revenue goes down, but the business makes the same amount.
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Consider that the alternative to this would be raising the minimum wage for tipped employees,
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and you can see how no tax on tips is a program that's friendly to workers, but even more
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so to corporations.
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Currently, the federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13.
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They're allowed to use $5.12 of any tips that they make as credit towards a $7.25 an
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hour minimum wage, so in some ways you could look at any shift as starting about $5 in
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the hole that you need to work off to your boss.
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Only six states and Guam require tipped employees to be paid their state's normal minimum wage,
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while 15 use the federal minimum of $2.13.
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No tax on tips is good for the workers in a direct sense, but the reason that someone
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like Trump or Alex can support it is because they understand that compared to the alternative,
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this is a very good option for big business.
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Also, I'm not the person to get super into the weeds about this, but Trump's shit can
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only apply to federal taxes, so tips can still be taxed at a state level, and companies can
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still apply payroll taxes to some forms of tips, and there's a $25,000 cap, so it's not
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as worker-friendly as this catchphrase name is meant to imply.
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Sure.
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Anyway, I agree with Alex's motivation in that clip.
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He was speaking a bit too loosely in the previous few days about his excitement for Trump resorts
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on conquered lands, so he's probably feeling like he needs to moderate that a little bit.
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Sure.
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And I get that.
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I agree with that motivation.
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It's a smart move.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, there's being a worm tongue, and then there's being a straight-up toady.
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At least the worm tongue gets to whisper, and the king wuts his face as he hears, and
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be like, ah, ah, ah, ah.
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But man, if you're just like, it's okay if he steps on my nose.
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I like it.
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If bleeding makes your nose bigger and stronger.
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He secretly loves me.
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Absolutely, and sometimes, sometimes I whisper his name in the dark, and I bet he hears me.
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Yeah, like at least worm tongue, you can be seen with the king.
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The king, you're right behind him.
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And worm tongue gets him in the end, you know?
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Yeah, it's different.
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He's not getting worm tongue talent.
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Yeah.
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Nope.
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So anyway, Alex, I think, just wants Trump to just fucking take over everything.
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Sure.
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Trump said, we're returning to the Monroe Doctrine and the model used by William McKinley,
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and if foreign powers are projecting their power into our atmosphere and setting up states
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and governments to manipulate our internal operations, we are going to smash your ass.
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You know how many times we've gone into Latin America and New Mexico before World War II?
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Hundreds of times.
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Because of foreign powers coming in trying to manipulate and control.
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We built the Panama Canal.
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We had it for eternity in the deal.
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Carter signed it away.
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Obama finished it.
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Trump came in with a headset and told Panama, hey, the Chicoms are pushing in.
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Make a deal with us or we're going to come in.
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They said, nope, we'll push the commies out.
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Come right in, please.
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And Trump said, good, we'll invest 500 billion dollars.
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How's that sound?
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Weird.
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Sounds chill and cool and awesome.
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Alex should tell his audience the truth.
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Trump made a lot of noise last year about how Chinese companies ran ports around the
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Panama Canal and how that wasn't good for American national security.
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This involved a Hong Kong based company called C.K.
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Hutchinson Holdings, who owned controlling interest over these ports.
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Trump demanded a shakeup, so C.K.
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Hutchinson ended up agreeing to sell their interest in these ports for 22.8 billion dollars.
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The group that ended up with buying that controlling interest is a consortium that's run by BlackRock.
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That seems like it should be relevant to Alex because they're one of his big villains.
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Nah.
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Weird.
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Nah, I mean, it seems fine.
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It's almost as though it didn't really matter too much for national security interests as
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it did for who's friends with whom at what point in time.
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No, yeah.
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And yeah, I mean, I think that it's obviously very easy because they both start with the
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word black, but like the way that Alex was able to make friends with Eric Prince, who
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ran Blackwater after being the huge villains in the Iraq War era.
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Sure.
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Kind of, I think we're going to see the same thing with BlackRock.
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It does feel-
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As Trump works with them and is totally cool.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, once you've established yourself as evil, fucking go for it.
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Murder the younglings.
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Once you're already there, fucking, I'm Darth Vader, I don't give a shit.
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Oh, I murdered younglings.
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Buddy, I'm well past that, right?
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What are we doing with this?
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Like, oh, is it okay for BlackRock?
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I think you can only really have the confidence to do that if your boss can shoot lightning.
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And this is something that you keep forgetting.
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I mean, it helps.
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It definitely helps.
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I think morale or at least like following the leader, it's inspired by lightning out
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of the hands.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, we give Trump a Tesla coil.
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We give him a big enough one.
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I bet that sounds like enough.
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Give that asshole a Musk coil.
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I mean, listen, did you see the weather a couple of days ago?
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I'm willing to go with weather weapons at this point.
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I'm willing to accept that that sleet storm that just popped up out of nowhere, that's
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fucking real.
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That's weather weapons.
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Sure.
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So, you know.
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Like some sort of pulse.
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Why not?
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All right.
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Angels don't play that harp.
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No, they don't.
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So Maduro has been arrested.
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He's taken to New York.
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Weird.
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He says, fantasized a little bit here about how he's going to flip.
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But the fact that the door is in New York from where?
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Enforcement custody.
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And you know that they are going to be meeting with him.
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You know, it's already happening and saying, look, give us the networks, give us the groups
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that already have his former intelligence chiefs and others.
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And confirm this.
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Go public and you can walk.
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It will dismantle completely Democrats.
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Money laundering operation.
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And then if Trump can get a real AGM and some real people to actually prosecute.
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This is the death blow.
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See what we kind of have to understand is Alex's framing of this relies on his understanding
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of gunboat diplomacy.
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He fantasizes about this idea that Trump will have Maduro in custody.
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And he'll be able to intimidate him into pointing the finger at his political enemies.
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And if you agree to this deal, we will let you out of prison.
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You can be rich in Switzerland.
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That's how it works.
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That's what Alex is fantasizing about.
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Is that Trump would use Maduro in order to roll over on the people that he needs to take
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power away from.
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And I think it's pretty obvious.
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You know, I was thinking about this.
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Right.
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And I think the story of the emperor has no clothes has been misunderstood for its actual
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power.
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Right.
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Now, you say, oh, the emperor has no clothes.
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And then the kid laughs at him.
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But I say instead, the emperor walks around naked with his dick swinging around and then
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hires a bunch of people to scream at you that he's wearing clothes.
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And then if you say anything about him not wearing clothes, he murders you.
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Now that is a good emperor has no clothes story.
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Well, you know how like I think, you know, you watch movies from like the 90s and stuff
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and it's like, wow, this whole plot would be solved by a cell phone.
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Like if there just were cell phones.
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Yeah.
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This is not an issue.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
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And I think that the emperor has no clothes.
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I think it's hurt by the fact that there's no media.
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Yeah.
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You know, like if the emperor has a propaganda network, he doesn't even need clothes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's not the only one thing to have like, oh yeah, there's a lot of people who
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are going along with the, you know, the fiction that the emperor is cool clothes.
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But like if you had an internet.
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Yeah.
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No, if you could 3D print a new Humpty, fuck that nursery rhyme.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Let him fall all he wants.
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I'll make a new one.
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Yeah.
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Tomorrow.
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And I think that we need new lessons.
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We have to start new, our nursery rhymes are useless.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, I think that I've talked.
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That lady has to live in that shoe.
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That's the only place she can afford, man.
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That's where we're at.
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I've talked a bit about how like Alex's world kind of requires a new Bible.
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Yeah.
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And I think that our world also now requires new nursery rhymes.
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Yeah.
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We need a new Aesop.
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We need a new brother grim.
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Just a series of reasons to stay off the internet.
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That's what we need.
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There's a witch.
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Exactly.
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If you get on the internet, you'll get eaten.
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Next next one.
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If you get on the internet, you'll get fucking bitten by a wolf.
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Next one.
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Somebody's going to chop your head off.
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Next one.
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Finding like accidentally finding sex criminals or Nazis or all the things that are on the
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internet apparently isn't scary enough.
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Not enough.
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Not enough.
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Yeah.
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We need to create a monster.
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Yep.
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That's what's going to happen.
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But then it's going to get Slenderman.
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You're going to get Slenderman.
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Yeah.
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That's what's going to happen.
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Fuck.
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Yeah.
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So if the globalists were doing this, taking over Venezuela.
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They would just give that oil to China.
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Whereas FOMP is good.
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Sure.
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Because he's taking it.
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That makes sense.
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And then he's going to give it back.
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That makes sense.
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If this was a normal globalist operation, they'd go in there.
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We take them to Iraq and then China's given the oil fields.
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With Trump, everything he goes and does literally is maximized to pump as much money into the
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average person's pockets as possible.
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FOMP understands hospitality, man.
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If it's a little guy making money, you're not going to have an infrastructure to spend
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yours.
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Henry Ford was the guy that innovated this.
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He said, I'm going to pay my employees three times what other car companies do.
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I'll have all the best workers and I'll give them discounts on Ford vehicles.
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And then almost every employee bought the vehicles.
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Yeah.
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That's grow the pie model.
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Not the great reset maker buddy, poor model.
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Not the new world order communist model, but the American model.
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That's not the only thing that Trump and Henry Ford have encountered.
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I was going to say, there's quite a few things about that.
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For real though, this is an insane level of bootlicking that almost can't be put on a
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chart.
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The way that Alex is justifying Trump's geopolitical military actions relies on assuming a super
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corrupt but benevolent motivation from a business standpoint.
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And that alone should be a problem.
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If Trump is kidnapping world leaders and seizing oil fields, that should be bad.
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But he's doing it because he wants everyone to have a bunch of money.
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So that should be good.
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But he wants everyone to have money because he's a hospitality guy who only makes money
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if everyone has money to spend.
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So that kind of makes his motives look suspicious again.
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It's good to want people to have money and be able to afford things in life.
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But if your reason for wanting that is so you can sell them things, then your ability
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to afford something is really a means to an end that this person is after, which is
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them selling you things.
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It's great to give people more money so they can afford to buy, you know, raising wages.
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What's even more effective than that is giving them company bucks and selling them all the
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things that they...that's super efficient.
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It's so great.
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You could raise their wages so high when that money is just coming right back to you.
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It's great.
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Yeah, yeah, it would be, you know, it feels like at the very least, right, Caesar could
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be like, hey, listen, I will bring back plunder.
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I'm just going to plunder shit and I'll have too much.
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I don't have a place to store it.
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So you'll get some.
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Now it's all in the cloud.
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Like it's on the screen.
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You can't get any of that.
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He's plundering all this shit and then just keeping it on a screen.
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You're not getting a little fucking jewel from Carthage or whatever.
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You're getting shit.
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Nothing.
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It's just on a screen, man.
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Brutal.
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Remember NFTs?
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Doing the thing that was going to last forever and be super awesome for art.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, if Trump can make 50 bucks by getting you a dollar, he's cool with that.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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But if the alternative is him getting 51 bucks and you get 10 cents, he'll always choose
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that.
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He will choose that one 100% of the time.
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Always.
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100%.
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And so would Henry Ford and so would BlackRock and all the people that Alex fucking loves.
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Yep.
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So worldview is based on industrialists and rich corporations trying to fleece fucking
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workers.
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Yeah.
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It's hard not to see very clearly that they exist to exploit the space between labor and
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profit.
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Yes.
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And they have no actual value whatsoever.
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And it's becoming too transparent now because they are too powerful.
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Yep.
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We have one last clip here and it's Alex, how he wants to spend his time on such a,
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you know, it's the Lord's day.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's a Trump has just overthrown Maduro and ended the globalists.
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Wow.
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So here's where he's at.
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We'll get to Hagstath talking about this being the opposite of destabilization.
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This is stabilization in a moment, but let's look at white liberal women fuming following
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the United States, saying, how dare you violate somebody's sovereignty?
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Well, how dare them send their prisoners here?
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And 8 million people displaced and how dare them starve by the, and how dare them steal
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our elections.
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How about that?
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Got him.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this show, if like he talks about how God tells him what to do and how he's
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like the most important person in the world and has shaped the tides of history and stuff
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and like, great.
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You should be doing something else with the time then, you know, the show shouldn't be
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a meme recap show and you trying to puff your chest out at Tik TOK videos.
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Yeah.
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Like that seems incredibly trivial for God's chosen soldier.
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It does feel that way.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there weren't, there weren't a lot of apostles writing stories about Jesus getting
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into a flame war, you know, like it was mainly like, Hey, I'm going to go to this mountain,
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give a little talk.
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Maybe I'll get into, I'll get into a dust up at the temple, get those assholes out of
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here.
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But at no point in time was there like back and forth like, uh, I, how about this one?
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Oh, what about this guy?
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Yeah.
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Even when he's spending the days in the devil, in the desert with the devil, nobody's recording
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that shit.
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Yeah.
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It's just, it's too bad they didn't.
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We don't want that.
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No.
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Cause a magic, it was probably like a nonstop roast.
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Oh my God.
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They're just nitpicking back and forth.
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But like good lines.
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It would have to be literally the best lines in all of history.
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Can you imagine if like the devil and Jesus in the middle of nowhere, like if that was
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on kill Tony,
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zingers
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you're right.
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I think the world should add.
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That is a good point.
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You have, you have argued correctly for the end of the world.
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I give up anyway.
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Um, we're doing a, you know, this is a little bit of a shorter episode and part of the reason
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is because obviously what comes right after this is the, uh, many, uh, Minnesota shooting.
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Yeah.
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Ice shooting.
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Uh, and shit's going to get real.
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Yeah.
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That's going to take a while.
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And the bone temple calls.
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Yeah.
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So I didn't want to have that energy going into the bone temple.
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I mean, it's hard to want that energy going into anywhere.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's, it's something we can't ignore, obviously.
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It must be dealt with, but, uh, but, uh, the bone temple, anyway, uh, we'll be back for
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that unpleasantness.
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Uh, but, um, until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledge, right?
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We have a bone temple.
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We'll be back.
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Uh, but until then I'm Neo, I'm Leo.
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I'm DCX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.