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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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Well it's January so I'll go first.
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Yeah, you have to go first the whole month now.
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Uh sure.
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We'll see.
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I might flip it up sometimes but I got a bright spot for you.
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And it's one word.
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Alright.
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One word.
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Okay.
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Axminster.
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Is that an abbey?
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No.
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Oh.
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It is the name of a very poorly introduced antagonist in MacGyver.
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Axminster.
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Axminster.
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Axminster.
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Axminster.
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Almost Axminster but without one of the I's.
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Right right right.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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So the next episode of MacGyver.
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Yeah.
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Why don't you guess the plot just based on Axminster.
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Well first off vampires.
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No.
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Uh second old world rich people?
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No.
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Uh third uh Captain Planet villains.
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No.
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Okay.
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No environmentalism and no kissing.
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How about British?
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No.
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Well then I got nothing.
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Okay.
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Who's just named Axminster?
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The greatest assassin in the world.
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It's something I love about this episode is they cannot stop saying Axminster.
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How could you?
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And I fucking love it every time they do.
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It's it's so good.
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Oh my god there's Axminster.
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Oh no Axminster is coming.
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No one uses pronouns when Axminster's around.
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It's so great.
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Alright so this episode begins with MacGyver on the beach.
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And we now know that he lives in LA or somewhere in California.
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Spin off show MacGyver on the Beach.
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He's looking at bikinis a lot.
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And this episode has a slightly different intro so I wonder if they had filmed the first like 10.
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Right.
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And then did the next 10 or whatever.
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Right right right.
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It feels like he's hornier.
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It happens.
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So he has to save a woman colonel or a woman general from some guys who are holding her
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captive at a beach house.
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Right I assume she's not in a bikini as well.
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No she's in a military outfit.
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And I only say lady general because they keep saying it.
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They keep saying lady general.
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Lady general.
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Specifically to point out this is a lady general.
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It's crazy.
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Axminster wants to kill a lady general.
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Nope Axminster not involved.
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Okay.
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This is the first three minutes of the episode.
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Okay.
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And then we get the that's the cold open.
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Sure.
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MacGyver he comes back home and he's like oh shit I got another job to do.
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So he has to go blow up a nuclear plant in somewhere in the Middle East.
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That seems wildly unsafe but okay.
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Yeah so he just shows up in the middle of the night covered in black.
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He blows up this thing.
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Happens very fast.
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It's an international incident.
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He shows back up at his house in California.
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Yeah.
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There's a government guy there and he's like you've been made.
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You've uh someone noticed you someone spotted you blowing up a nuclear plant.
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Of course they did.
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It's one of the most surveilled places on this planet by multiple countries.
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It's a crazy huge terrorist attack that he's doing.
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Absolutely yeah that's that's amazing.
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Yeah so this guy's like you got to go to a safe house and MacGyver is like I'll tell you what.
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I've been putting off a trip for a while.
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Sure.
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So he goes he decides he's gonna go visit his grandpa.
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Right.
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Who's his only living relative.
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Sure.
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And lives out in the middle of nowhere and they haven't spoken since MacGyver was 10.
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But he misses him something fierce.
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Okay sure fine fine fine why not.
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So MacGyver thinks that this is gonna blow over because he got made
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blowing up the uh the the nuclear weapons thing.
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Yeah.
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And the terrorists or the middle eastern state who owned that.
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Right.
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Called in Axminster and so he's going to take out MacGyver.
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MacGyver thinks he can hide out in this tiny town where his grandpa lives.
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Right.
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And they can reconnect kill two birds with one stone.
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That's nice.
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Instead Axminster shows up.
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Do you mean the most obvious thing in the world to check his only living relative to
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see if he's hiding out there?
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Yeah he didn't even follow that path and he still figured it out.
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So MacGyver and his grandpa have to use uh their old tricks.
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Oh of course his grandpa is also a MacGyver.
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Yeah he knows some things.
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No this is this is a last crusade we're going on a last crusade.
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It yes it is Sean Connery and Indiana Jones.
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Okay.
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Yes a million percent.
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And it's great.
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It's a lot of fun.
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His grandpa's an old crotchety guy who doesn't want to I don't want to see you you kid you fuck.
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Oh you've disappointed me.
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By the end of the episode they're sharing a very meaningful hug.
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Of course gruff and tack a turn always melts in the end.
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Yeah I looked Axminster by the way not that much of a threat.
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Sure.
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He has a lot of guns and a lot of men with him but they fall for a lot of log based tricks.
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You can't be a good assassin if you also have a bunch of men with you.
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Assassin to be a great one solo work.
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Solo work.
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I think that he he he's presented as the kind of guy who's like I got to get the job done.
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Don't care how I do it.
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Yeah gotcha.
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Get a hundred guys in here.
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Ruthless efficiency.
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MacGyver will end up dead that's all that matters.
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Right.
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Whereas MacGyver is the kind of guy who wants style points.
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Absolutely well I mean I think life is about style points sometimes.
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So it was the contrast of their philosophies that was really driving this episode.
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Sure.
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I did I had to look it up because I wanted to see like are we gonna get more Axminster.
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Yeah.
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Because he doesn't die he ends up getting arrested at the end.
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Weird.
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Yeah so like.
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Wait he's an international assassin that can get arrested?
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Yeah because MacGyver bonked him on the head with some wood and then he went and passed out.
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Good stuff.
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So he'd never encountered something like that before.
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I mean no I mean in his defense I believe that.
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I believe you rarely encounter log-based retaliation.
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Yeah so he could come back.
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Yeah.
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But I had to I had to see like if his grandpa came back.
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Yeah.
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And I learned that he does.
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So I'm looking forward to future adventures with his grandpa.
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But I did not check if Axminster comes back.
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I'm glad to keep that as like a little bit of a mystery.
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Yeah.
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Was this so it was a state it was a it was a nation state their nuclear program just MacGyver blew up.
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Unspecified in the Middle East.
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It wasn't it wasn't like a like a rogue terrorist band who had gotten a hold of a new it was just
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straight up I am destroying another nation's energy sources.
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Well I mean the implication is that they were up to no good.
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But yes I think that based on all the evidence that you see in the episode it is a government
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thing.
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Yeah Stuxnet had shit on MacGyver.
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Yeah he he just climbs a fence.
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Amazing.
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And puts a couple of bombs on the building.
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Amazing.
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Yeah we got to do that.
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So he yeah no kissing but strong stuff.
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Yeah.
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I do think that it would really undercut your your general part of Lady General if there
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was a smooch in that one.
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That's a no go.
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Well she did also didn't appear at all without tape over her mouth.
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Oh okay well you can't smooch her there.
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No.
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I mean well you know.
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You were talking on the last time we talked about MacGyver about how like only losers use guns.
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Yes I agree with that.
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And that's kind of true.
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Yeah.
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Except in the opening thing when he saves the Lady General he steals their guns.
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Sure.
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To hold them until the police come.
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Sure I think you can give him a pass.
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I agree I agree as long as it's not your if you're not bringing a gun.
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Yeah.
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Then you're probably in the clear.
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Everything is a everything is style points after that.
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It's an accidental gun.
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Yeah yeah yeah.
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Anyway I still love this show.
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I have I think it's gonna be great forever.
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Yep probably.
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is the the day of today is New Year's Day.
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Which means yesterday was New Year's Eve and it was a lovely New Year's Eve for my wife and I.
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Sure.
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It was one of our best.
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We just made our best dinner.
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Just cooked the shit out of it.
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Did a really great job.
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What's your best dinner?
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Squab?
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Uh no our best dinner is uh.
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Goose.
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Brussels sprouts and bacon.
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Oh.
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That's our best dinner.
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And then we usually have a steak or something like with that but you know.
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Oh.
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It's the brussel sprouts and the bacon.
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I would lead with the steak.
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That's the main.
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I understand that the steak is the main but we could replace the steak with something else.
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We could replace the steak with pork.
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Goose?
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We could yeah absolutely we could add a bird.
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But I'll tell you what we can't change.
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Those brussels and bacon.
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Those are too good.
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We know what we're doing.
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I feel like a lot of times couples will have their dish.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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It was our celebration dinner.
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Had a great one.
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Watched a couple movies.
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Went to bed at 10.
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What'd you uh would you check off?
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Anything good?
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Nope.
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Cool.
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Nope.
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I don't even think we finished a couple of them.
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I think we made it through an hour of one with Josh Duhamel.
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Who is not Timothy Oliphant.
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Nope.
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Or any of the other people that look exactly like that.
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But yeah no that was terrible.
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It was like there was like an 18 year old kid who was larping and then they became an assassin.
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It was awful.
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It was an awful movie.
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Was it Axminster?
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God I wish.
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I wish MacGyver was in it.
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Yeah you should have watched MacGyver.
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But no and we did make a you asked if we made if I had made a resolution and we didn't make
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any resolutions uh for the year other than next year we can't do the the stay at home
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otherwise we're just gonna do it ever you know you gotta mix it up we gotta go out.
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So you're setting a goal of going out next new year.
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Next new year's we got it in our we got it in our calendar.
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The next 364 days.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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But we gotta we gotta mix it up on new year's otherwise we're never gonna do it you know.
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I think it would benefit both of us to get out of the house a little more
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just on a general uh you know kind of thing.
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There are arguments to be made.
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I've been going to the woods.
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You have.
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It's not uh super social.
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I've been avoiding natural sunlight.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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That's healthy.
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So Jordan today we have an episode to go over.
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Okay.
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For the new year.
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All right.
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It's a new vibe.
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2026 baby.
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I miss cheese already.
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Yep.
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I think I miss your vamping.
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I think that's what I miss.
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I don't think anybody's ever said that before and that means that we're true friends.
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Yeah.
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I think I might have to find another another reason to make me vamp.
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Yeah.
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I'm thinking about it.
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We'll see.
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We'll just find a new excuse for you to spend 30 seconds drinking something or chewing something.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's that's the good stuff.
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I'm there.
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So uh today though we're going over uh December 4th 2025.
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All right.
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We are plugging along in this dumb stretch of time that I think is uh breaking uh a little
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bit of a breaking point to understand uh slippery slope that Alex falls down.
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Sure.
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But we'll talk about the particulars here but first let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh that's a great idea.
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So first shout out to my wife Elizabeth and our second wedding anniversary and I'm sorry
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that you let me choose the wedding date and I thought it would be funny but we always
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have our own January 6th.
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Thank you so much.
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Policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next the strange and mysterious gods of so-called Columbus Ohio.
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Thank you so much.
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So on our last episode Alex was deep in the weeds trying to justify
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Pete Hegseth's actions as it related to boat sinking.
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War crimes etc.
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Yeah and definitely that's gonna come up again in some new and fun ways.
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But Alex starts off the show on a different story.
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Okay.
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And I thought it was a little bit interesting.
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And if you want to know where we're going to be living under the globalists if we don't turn this
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around they're giving people life in prison for not using the correct pronouns in Ireland.
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It's mainstream news.
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A school teacher refuses to do it.
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And so life in prison.
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Canada.
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Same law is going into effect.
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It's a global operation.
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So you want to know where we'll be if it wasn't for Trump in there.
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As imperfect as he is.
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That's where we're going.
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This is total totalitarianism.
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We're just doing the same bullshit stories from 2016 all over again and pretending this
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isn't the same dumb shit that gave us Jordan Peterson.
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Yep.
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The Ireland story that Alex is talking about involves a school teacher named Enoch Burke.
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In 2022 he got in trouble for refusing to use a child in his class's preferred pronoun,
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which was the school's policy, was to respect that.
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In August of that year he got suspended from the school stemming from an incident where he
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had an outburst at a school church service.
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Burke refused to accept the school's request that he stay home while they discussed his suspension
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so he was fired.
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But Burke wasn't scared of things like getting fired and decided that he was going to keep
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showing up and pretending to teach anyway.
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Yeah.
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That's the most Irish way to solve problems.
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Yeah.
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Deny reality.
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In September 2022 the school went to court to get an order barring him from doing this
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because he didn't work there anymore and he had no business being around the kids who
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were just trying to go to school.
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Why do you need to go to a court?
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Because he wouldn't stop.
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They asked nicely first.
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They fired him.
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Fair enough.
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So Burke was arrested for violating this order by trespassing on school property.
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That was three years ago.
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He did a short stint in jail and then when he was released the court ordered him to pay
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a fine of 700 euros a day every time he defied the trespassing order.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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You don't have to pay anything.
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Let me be clear.
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You can pay zero dollars if you don't show up.
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According to the BBC as of this November he owes the Irish courts about 225,000 euros
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which would make it clear that he does not care about fines and that doesn't work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would say I would say a thousand.
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Fines are fake if you want them to be.
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A thousand euro.
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What's the old thing like a thousand euro is your problem.
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200,000 euro is the bank's problem.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So he keeps showing up to the school and insisting that he has a right to teach there and he's
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been arrested a couple times for contempt of court and trespassing.
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Sure.
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In September 2025 the school again petitioned the high court to address the issue because
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he wouldn't stop showing up pretending to still be a teacher.
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They discussed hiring guards which the school could not afford to do just to stop Burke
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from trespassing which the court affirmed was quote wholly and exclusively to prevent
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Mr. Burke from trespassing on school premises.
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On October 14th Burke was supposed to show up for a hearing with the high court but he
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instead chose to trespass on school grounds and not show up for court.
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Naturally.
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All too often the crazy people we see on this show aren't ambitious crazy but this Burke
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guy is in that category.
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Instead of going to court he sent his brother Isaac to show up for him.
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I like it.
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And to argue that Burke couldn't show up because he had to work at the school he was
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busy trespassing at.
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I love your brother.
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That's what I love.
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I love this brother who's been watching this go on for so long and then you call him to
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action and he's like man you're my brother first.
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I love you.
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Let's go.
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This is enabling.
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So this is from the high court's judgment on this case.
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Sure.
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Quote I indicated to Dr. Isaac Burke that he had no right of audience before the court.
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Mr. Isaac Burke replied quote I'm aware of the rules of the court judge.
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Dr. Isaac Burke despite my clear direction that he had no right of audience before the
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court made several other statements to the court and I had to remind him again and again
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that he had no right to audience.
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I love it.
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Excuse me sir you don't have the right to this.
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I know my rights parentheses.
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No he doesn't.
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No he doesn't.
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He does not know his rights.
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And he wouldn't shut up.
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So the same scene would play out a week later when the judge attempted to hold the hearing
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again.
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Sure.
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In the second hearing the judge was again harassed by Dr. Isaac Burke whose brother
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couldn't be there because he was too busy trespassing at the school.
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What kind of doctor?
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I don't know.
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It doesn't specify in the I don't know.
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So eventually the judge had enough and he had Isaac kicked out of the courtroom.
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Right yes.
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Quote when I sat again Mr. Enoch Burke's father Mr. Sean Burke then sought to shout at me.
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Yes yes I love the Burks.
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And generally I remonstrate with the court.
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I indicated to Mr. Sean Burke that if he continued in this manner I would ask that he be removed
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from the court.
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Mr. Sean Burke continued to speak and I gave him a second warning.
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When I indicated to Mr. Sean Burke that I would ask for him to be removed from the court
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he left the court voluntarily.
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Well that's polite.
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Yeah that's polite.
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So the next week they tried again.
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Of course.
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And this time Burke showed up which the judge speculated might have been because school
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wasn't in session that day so he didn't have to pretend to be a teacher.
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Why didn't they always schedule it for my school's out?
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Not only did he show up but his whole family showed up ready to cause trouble.
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So Burke's mom stood up to accuse the opposing council of being a liar which led to this
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scene.
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Quote moments later Dr. Isaac Burke jumped up and shouted judge you're lying you're lying
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so what happened was last week.
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And then Dr. Burke said quote I am Dr. Isaac Burke and I've been listening to lies.
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Again having been given a number of warnings to Dr. Isaac Burke I asked the guard eye to
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remove Dr. Isaac Burke from the court where upon Mrs. Martina Burke shouted disgrace
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lies lies.
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And Dr. Isaac Burke said quote shame on you God will judge your wickedness Mr. Cregan
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God will judge your wickedness.
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I rose whilst the guards removed Dr. Isaac Burke.
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Even outside the court I could hear the continual noise of shouting and roaring from
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the Burke family.
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Well I mean once you've started there's no reason in stopping after you've been kicked
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out right?
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Like keep on going.
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Yeah so as you might expect this led to some contempt of court charges.
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Sure I imagine so there was a lot of contempt for this court.
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Yeah they hate that.
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Yeah yeah yeah.
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So they set up another hearing for the next week on November 5th where the Burke family
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again showed up and yelled at the judge.
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Okay at a certain point you're the one stepping on the rake that you're putting down.
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That's your rake you're doing it.
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So again they were yelling about how he was a liar and God will judge him.
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Naturally.
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The guy at the center of all this Enoch Burke demanded that the judge send him to jail and
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he was he behaved quote like a petulant child.
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I believe that.
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So there's a new family member at this hearing.
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Okay.
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A sister named Ami but she gets thrown out for yelling at the judge which then causes
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Isaac to yell at the judge and he gets thrown out again.
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Right well I mean you can't throw her out.
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I gotta come to her defense if you're throwing her out.
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Yeah.
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Me I've been polite this whole time.
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I've been great.
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I'm a doctor.
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So naturally nothing was achieved by this hearing and the judge had to hear another
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case so he dismissed everyone.
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Right.
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He tried to move on to the next case but Enoch wouldn't leave so he had to have the guards
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remove him from the court after his time was over.
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Well I mean in a very literal sense he didn't have anywhere else he needed to be.
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True.
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In the course of these hearings the school had brought up some important issues like
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the fact that Burke had driven onto school grounds which could introduce an added danger
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of him hurting a student.
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More frighteningly he posted videos of himself trespassing on school grounds to Twitter
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which ran the risk of violating the privacy of students of the school, leading harassment
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to the school.
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It's a huge mess.
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So the judge was becoming more and more inclined to think that maybe Burke posed a threat and
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should be committed to jail.
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Yeah so that's what he did.
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The fines weren't working, the security guards at the school weren't working, and Burke's
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constant trespassing stopped the school from being a school.
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The judge ordered him to jail until they could hold another hearing and his judgment says
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quote,
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Mr. Burke has the keys to his own prison and if he wishes to purge his contempt he can
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be released.
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Even now after all of this bullshit that I've been describing to you the court is bending
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over backwards to accommodate this lunatic.
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Yeah.
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And a critical point about all this stuff is that it has nothing to do with him refusing
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to use a kid's pronouns or any of his views on trans issues.
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Nope.
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He was fired for refusing to allow the school to work through his suspension that arose
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from him disrupting a school church service where he verbally attacked the principal,
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the administration of the school, and the bishop.
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He committed gross misconduct and maybe he was angry about people having different views
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about trans people than he did, but none of the consequences that came were because of
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his beliefs.
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They all stem from him being a fucking asshole.
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Yeah he was just an asshole.
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Yeah.
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So he complained to the court that he was being unfairly fired back in 2023.
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Sure.
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He was allowed to make his case.
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He had the opportunity to say hey they're firing me because of my beliefs about gender
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and this is discrimination.
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The whole thing?
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He had every opportunity.
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You may be surprised to hear that instead of making an argument he yelled at the judge
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until they had to remove him for contempt and then refused to return after being given
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multiple explicit opportunities to come back and participate in court.
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That sounds familiar.
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Oh man does it.
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Yeah.
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So the judge in that case had some things that also might feel a little familiar.
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Oh yeah?
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So I thought I'd read this.
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Okay.
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It's kind of a big chunk of text.
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All right.
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This is from the judge in that original case.
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Quote, his demeanor and unorthodox behavior were very much evident in the course of the
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presentation of his appeal before this court.
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He granted himself free rein to speak disparagingly about and deploy language calculated to
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traduce and demean those with whose conduct and decisions he did not agree.
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The conduct of Mr. Burke at the religious service in the chapel was wholly disrespectful
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towards the school's principal and entirely inappropriate.
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By the standards of civilized behavior, his conduct was simply outrageous.
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By any objective measure, his conduct was highly confrontational and calculated to cause
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maximum embarrassment and stress to the school principal and to undermine her publicly and
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openly in front of key stakeholders, parents, some students, clergy, members of the church
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hierarchy, and other persons connected with the school as well as teachers.
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By any measure, the disruption of the chapel service on June 2022 at which the bishop was
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officiating was wholly unorthodox.
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And Mr. Burke's lack of insight into the inappropriateness of his behavior speaks to
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either his inability or unwillingness to engage in dialogue or discussion as one might
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conventionally expect to find in a school setting where through the mechanism of dialogue,
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a means would be arrived at which would be mutually respectful of the teacher's concerns
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on the one hand and the spiritual and moral values of a student and their family on the
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other.
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The appellant appears to lack all insight into the extent to which his conduct was inappropriate,
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undermining, intimidating, contemptuous towards and demeaning of the school principal.
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Even on his own version of events, his behavior was confrontational and wholly out of place,
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having regard to the nature of the event as a ceremony of religious worship, the wide
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variety of attendees, and the solemn occasion.
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His approach in all matters appears to be directed towards getting his own way at all
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costs whilst being incapable and or unwilling to engage in respectful dialogue in an effort
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to achieve a mutually acceptable compromise which might adequately address his concerns.
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One is driven to the conclusion that he quite enjoys conflict and confrontation and the
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passing notoriety his willful and contemptuous contempt of court has brought upon him.
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Sorry, that was a chunky paragraph, but that's just Alex.
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Yep, nailed it.
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You can't really sum up his actions around the Sandy Hook trial better than saying that
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he appeared to lack all insight into the extent which his conduct was inappropriate and that
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he quite enjoys conflict and the confrontation that the case brought him.
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This guy is just a baby who can't accept the consequences of his actions and eventually
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decided the consequences didn't actually exist because no one was holding him responsible
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for the severe harm that he's causing people.
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A parent should have beat the shit out of him for coming to that school and putting
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all the students there in danger and profoundly disrupting their education, but instead he
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showed up from multiple school years and pretended that he still taught there.
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He flagrantly ignored the court's attempts to get him to stop trespassing at a school,
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but instead of being adult about it, he decided to pretend that it was all him being persecuted
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for not accepting trans people.
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Through playing that game of pretend, he's made himself very useful to demagogues and
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pieces of shit like Alex who are desperate to pretend that people are getting arrested
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for not using people's preferred pronouns.
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It's a whole cottage industry that he's being able to make himself a part of.
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Yep.
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There are cases where police and courts are legitimately encroaching on people's rights,
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or where people are being unfairly treated, but it's pathetic for Alex to treat the
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story like this is one of them.
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In order to accept that he's reporting on this story as a guy who's going to jail for
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life for using the wrong pronouns, you have to accept that either 1.
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he's such an anti-trans zealot that he's willing to lie about every aspect of this
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story, or 2.
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he's so lazy that he hasn't looked into it at all.
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The reason I spent as much time on this as I have is because this is a mirror.
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Both Enoch, Burke, and Alex were given every opportunity to prove their underlying claims.
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Alex had his cases that ended up in default where he could have argued that his actions
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were protected under the first amendment, and Burke had this 2023 case where he could
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have argued that he was fired unjustly for being against trans people.
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Both men made conscious decisions not to engage with those cases, most likely because they
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knew damn well they couldn't succeed with the dumb arguments they were trying to make,
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and they didn't want to be embarrassed by the finality of losing the case.
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Instead, they both tried to sabotage the proceedings until the court had enough, which allowed
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them to play the victim and pretend at later hearings that they never got the chance to
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make their case, and they've been silenced.
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I don't think that the court system is equipped to deal with people who act like this, and
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who are financially incentivized to act like this, so I'm pumped that I-
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Judge threw Burke in jail.
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Yeah.
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And someone should have done that to Alex.
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Yeah, I mean, it has become more and more apparent that there should be, like, an-
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I think the problem with it is it's like that one asshole with the, like, secretary of
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retribution shit.
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There needs to be a separate thing where it's like, oh, guys, this is one of ours.
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You're not capable of handling this.
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You're great at so many things.
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The court system can do a lot of stuff well, but you can't handle this guy.
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I'll take care of it.
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Yeah.
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I'm only comfortable with that with a lot of oversight, with a lot of, like, a lot of,
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are we sure we babied this person?
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Are we sure we gave them every opportunity, and their pattern of behavior is clearly exploiting
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the way the system isn't built to deal with fraud?
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But that's where I get to come in, and I get to be like, you guys have a whole thing of,
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what is babying?
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And I go, here's the line.
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He reached it.
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He's mine now.
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I understand that there's a lot of middle ground and a lot of gray area, but that's
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not where he and I live.
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He and I live in a separate place where he reached the line, and I'll take care of it.
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You want to create the Alex Jones line, like the Mendoza line?
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Honestly, yes, I do.
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I think that there should be a, like, hey, actually, you've reached a real spot where
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it's only you and Alex.
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So guess what?
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You get to be treated like Alex.
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We're done.
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Gone.
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Rip him out of here.
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If this guy was actually being oppressed for his beliefs about trans people, then that
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might be inappropriate.
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There might be some argument to be made, but that's not the case that's going on at all.
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And his actions, if left unchecked, because clearly the fines don't work, mitigation measures
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don't work, no one's kicking his ass.
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Because those things aren't happening, he's fucking up people's lives.
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Everyone who goes to school there has to deal with him just showing up and trying to sneak
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through the doors whenever they can.
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He disrupts education.
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The school has to pay for a guard, which they conceivably don't have the budget for.
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You can't do that.
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This is another one where it's like, I understand all of those solutions that those people came
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up with, but they didn't think about things the way that I think of things, which is if
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anybody shows up to work more than two months in a row without getting paid for it, they're
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insane.
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Whatever else you think is, like, what's really crazy about them.
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They showed up to work for 60 days and no one paid them.
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Yeah.
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And they have a family who's willing to yell at the court.
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Absolutely.
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This is a whole thing.
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There's such a problem here.
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Right.
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And it has nothing to do with LGBTQ folks.
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It has everything to do with these people are a mess.
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This is a mess.
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Yeah.
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How do you show up to work for 60 days without getting paid?
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Yeah.
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I'm certain that if it were relevant, like some teacher being a weirdo, there would be
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a long paper trail that we could find.
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This is not the first time this guy has done something weird.
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It never is.
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It never is.
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So yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole and I wanted to share that court story with you.
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It's so fascinating because courts do...
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Like the truest weirdos will wind up in a court sooner or later.
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Yeah.
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There's just no way around it.
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They're not built for this world and courts aren't built for them.
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So we get fun stories out of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the adherence to procedure running up against crazy.
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What is wrong with you idiots?
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Yeah.
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Oh, it's beautiful.
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So we get back to some other more familiar stuff and Alex is running defense for Pete
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Hegseth as is his want.
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Oh, and the inspector general report came out.
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Hegseth did nothing sending out on a signal text that the strikes had begun.
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And it turns out they had...
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Somebody had planted other people that shouldn't be on the list on there.
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Gee, wonder who did that?
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I predicted it when it first broke.
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You got Jeffrey Goldberg involved?
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Literal Mossad slash Obama Democrat operative?
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Come on.
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So the inspector general report about Pete Hegseth's use of signal as it relates to the
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bombings in Yemen came out on December 2nd and Alex is flagrantly lying about it.
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I'll read to you here from their findings.
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All right.
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We concluded that the secretary sent sensitive non-public operational information that he
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determined did not require classification over the signal chat on his personal cell phone.
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The secretary is the head original classification authority in the DOD based on executive order
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13526 and DOD manual 5200.45 and holds the authority to determine the required classification
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level of all DOD information he communicates.
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However, because the secretary indicated that he used the signal application on his personal
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cell phone to send non-public DOD information, we concluded that the secretary's actions
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did not comply with DOD instruction 8170.01, which prohibits using a personal device for
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official business and using non-approved commercially available messaging applications
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to send non-public DOD information.
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They recommended that the Department of Defense explain to the senior staff why they have
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rules about these kinds of things and if they could do that then it would be appropriate
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to handle this as an internal kind of thing.
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Like how if you get in trouble at your office job, HR might make you go to a training session.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's that kind of thing, but with bombing Yemen.
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Yeah.
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Also, Alex has basic facts of the case wrong, like how the messages were sent two hours
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before the strikes, not when they were launched, and it's clear that Alex is lying about these
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details because he knows that the real version of the story is way harder to defend.
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Yeah.
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Hegseth didn't get set up and no matter who was in that chat, their actions would be just
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as much of a problem.
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Yeah.
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Like it doesn't matter if everyone in there had top secret classification.
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It's still a personal cell phone and a publicly available messaging app.
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Those problems don't magically go away because the Atlantic guy was in there.
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I mean there's there's nothing else to say but don't do this.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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I don't even recommend regular people do that with some sensitive information.
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Yeah, it's disconcerting though to see that Alex has now just decided to start calling
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all the Jewish people he's mad at Mossad agents.
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Jeffrey Goldberg is an interesting case because he's a Jewish man who was born in the United
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States, who later moved to Israel, became a citizen, and then joined the IDF, who then
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gave up his Israeli citizenship in 2013.
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He's definitely a Zionist in his ideology, but he also doesn't line up with most of the
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goals of the Netanyahu government as we understand them in the present.
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Yeah.
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So it seems like a pretty big leap to assume that he's employed by Mossad.
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But the only reason you would do that is because he's Jewish.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is just...
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Nazism is cool in his circle now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you know, that's one of those underlying things where it is removing people from being
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people and turning them into aliens.
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Because in a sense, you're saying that all Jewish people are willing to work for Mossad
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by virtue of them being Jewish for no reward whatsoever.
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Well, it's like a magnification of the dual loyalty.
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Exactly.
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That kind of trope.
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Yeah.
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There's the twin of like, oh, these are cockroaches.
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They're less than human.
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And then there's that version of it where it's like, they're unrecognizable for me.
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You wouldn't do that because you're not fucking crazy.
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But all of them are.
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That kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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Every Jewish person that you see is a potential Israeli citizen.
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Absolutely.
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And by virtue of that, they're Mossad agents.
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We're doing like Matrix shit.
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Like, it could be Hugo Weaving at any point in time.
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It's garbage.
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Yeah.
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So Hank Seth, you know, he shut down those boats.
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Sure.
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He was cool on that.
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Nah.
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And you know what's really great about him?
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He doesn't pose for pictures and like pretend to be in the situation room.
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Him and Trump don't do that kind of stuff.
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Except when they do.
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Wow.
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Oh, they're on Capitol Hill meeting about exeth.
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Oh, secret meeting with the senators.
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Oh, it's already come out yesterday.
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Last, it's the afternoon that they went and interviewed everybody and the Navy and they
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released the info.
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And they said, no, no, he just said the president ordered the next confirmed drug boat hit.
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He gave the order.
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They call him up and say, we're about to hit it.
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He says, hit it.
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And that's he goes, I'm a busy guy.
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It's not like the movies or those photo ops Obama does where he's in the situation room
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dropping the bombs with the drones.
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And you know, I'm really good at killing people.
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Two words, predator drones.
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Hank said that them aren't sitting there jacking off on television, you know, in Tom Clancy
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style situation room stuff.
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It's just not the reality.
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Now, Trump on big strikes on Iran and stuff, that was a big deal.
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He was in there for that.
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That's because he wanted, he obviously wanted to see what's going on.
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I want to see what was going on.
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You know, so obviously there were those pictures, you know, he's curious.
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They're busy.
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Okay.
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There should be more home alone based traps for certain phrases and things that you can
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say.
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Like if you completely negate something immediately after saying it, you should get hit with a
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paint can, right?
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It should just like swing down and like knock you over.
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Yeah.
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God should drop it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There should be home alone style problem solving.
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Paint can of Dan McClease hanging over your head to swing down.
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At all times.
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Yeah.
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I think that there's something really special about Alex's ability to do stuff like that
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in such quick succession.
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Yeah.
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Like when he's complaining about the vanity and the like all the staged photo ops of all
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the other people.
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Sentence upon sentence upon sentence.
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And it's a virtue that his guys don't do that.
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Never do that.
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And then he realizes in the moment.
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Oh, there's a lot of pictures.
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They do it all the time.
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Oh, fuck.
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I got to justify.
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I wanted to see what's going on.
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They wanted to see what was going on.
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At no point in time did Obama want to see what was going on.
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He just wanted photo ops.
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At no point in time does Trump want photo ops.
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He just wants to see what is going on.
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Neither of these two are exactly the same.
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Wanting to do both at the same time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, Trump's not jacking up.
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No.
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So anyway, the everyone's attacking Hegseth.
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Sure.
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And all of this is about poisoning the people's mind.
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Right.
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So when the civil war starts, the military won't be loyal to Trump.
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Right.
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Or something.
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So it's all blown up in their face.
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But more importantly, what is it about?
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And I know you all know the answer.
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So let's tell everybody else, because this is how we raise the alarm.
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It's about preparing some big event, some false flag to be blamed on Trump and the National
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Guard and the Border Patrol and all the rest of it.
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And it is about when this big event comes, trying to sell the public and the blue states
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and everybody on turning against America.
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And of course, the blue states will do it because they're globalist.
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And then using that illusion and using that supposed gravitas or strength to, oh, look,
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see all these blue states seceded because Trump's a dictator, believing that that will
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somehow put enough pressure on the body politic of the military to stage a coup against Trump.
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This is really dumb.
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If some states secede from the union, we are past the point where we need to worry about
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the body politic and their support of Trump.
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If we get to the point where multiple states secede, it's probably game over for the world.
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For one thing, the world economy is completely fucked and the instability of that will ripple
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through every market and and currency in the world.
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For another thing, do states get to keep their nukes when they secede?
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Isn't that weird?
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Because it seems like some states they're housed there.
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How are you going to get them back if they secede?
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Not going to get them back.
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Huh, that's messy.
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That's real bad.
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While we're on the subject, it seems pretty likely that if a couple states secede from
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the union and while we're trying to sort that out, Russia and China will definitely see
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that as an opportunity to gain some ground.
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So who knows what they'll do?
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The international order kind of falls apart without the US investment in weapons, so it
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could be a make hay while the sun shines kind of moment that we find ourselves in.
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I get that the fantasy Alex has is there's going to be another 1860s style civil war,
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but that shit is never going to happen in the modern world.
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Even if Trump is a dictator, it is not in New York or California's best interest to
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secede from the union.
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Like it just, it's dumb.
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It overcomplicates things, creates more problems than it solves.
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Right, but even then, again, like the states aren't real.
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Like they don't actually exist.
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They're arbitrary lines.
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So if the government of New York state is like, we secede, then plenty of New York state
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will be like, no, I don't.
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Right?
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Like they can only do what they can do within what is agreed upon within New York state,
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the nation that they've created.
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You don't just have to be in New York-a-stan now.
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Right.
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Well, yes and no.
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Geography, yes, somewhat arbitrary in the way that like counties and cities and states
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are drawn, but the state itself as like a financial organizing thing.
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Can have some sort of like, okay, we're not gonna allow businesses that don't recognize
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us as the central authority of the state.
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So before we even get to negotiating our exit from the United States, we have to negotiate
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our exit from ourself, the New York state, which would then hopefully provide an armistice
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time where the people of New York state who don't want to become new citizens are allowed
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to return back to the United States.
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Just the bureaucracy.
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Negotiate border treaties with every surrounding state.
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Nonstop.
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It wouldn't even be like, oh, there's going to be a move from Russia or China.
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It would just take 50 years to even start being like, hey, we're going to get out of
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here.
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Let's imagine no shooting and bombing and shit ends up happening.
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The bureaucratic nonsense would take forever.
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No, it makes more sense to take over the United States than to secede from the United States.
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Yeah.
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And if Trump is a dictator, then you just kind of, like, I think that the states would
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recognize that, like, all right, best thing to do is resist as we can and roll the bones.
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Yeah.
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Now we're not states where bureaucratic entities underneath the solid federal government entirely.
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You know, it's not that big a difference to move from dictatorship to what we had.
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From a business's standpoint.
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Exactly.
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From a business's standpoint, yes.
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So Alex talks about this sink in a boat stuff.
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Sure.
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And what do you think?
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Based on what you've heard and Alex's rhetoric, why are they doing that?
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Why are they just blowing up boats?
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Yeah.
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What's the rationale?
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Okay, well, if you have drugs on a boat and then you blow it up, then those drugs can
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never be replaced or used again.
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So you've permanently removed from the market a small amount of drugs.
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If you do that often enough, there will be no drugs left.
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Non fungible drugs.
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Presumably they cannot be continually produced.
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So it is about drugs.
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That's the idea that you have in your head.
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Right.
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Now, ha ha.
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Foolish.
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Well, shit.
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I mean, if Trump said, yeah, we're taking Venezuela out to cut out the Democrats election
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fraud, then you go, there's no election fraud.
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My God, that's insane.
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Oh, that is insane.
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So he goes, oh, it's the fentanyl.
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They go, sir, they've shipped most of the fentanyl because the Mexican drug cartels,
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your first administration, you threatened to kill a bunch of them and you did.
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So actually, surely followed your orders eight years ago and it all moved to Canada.
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It's it's it's the Canadians now doing it with the Chinese.
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So he's like, OK, well, we'll just cocaine then.
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Yeah.
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And people go, oh, oh, for cocaine and heroin, you're going to kill everybody.
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But they are backstopping the Mexican drug cartels.
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Wait, let me tell you, it started about a year in his first administration and it came
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out in the news and I was down in Puerto Vallarta.
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So gorgeous.
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If you go more south, go to the main part of our to go to the old town of the mountains.
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Oh, what a world.
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What a show.
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Perfectly clear crystal green water.
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Kill the ball.
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But you got to go.
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You got to visit.
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The water is great.
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Beautiful.
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My wife speaks Spanish.
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She's not she's not Spanish, but she likes to speak.
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You don't have to.
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Just thanks for letting us out.
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But we just everybody tell us everything.
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Oh, yes, we like Trump.
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No, no, we don't want to do fentanyl.
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But that's what we were told to sell.
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It kills our own people down here.
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And now they've been sent a lot.
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That's what runs down there has been killing anyone that sells it.
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And I was looking at the news.
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They were killing anybody selling it because Trump was already having special forces kill
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Sinaloa leadership.
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They didn't stop.
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So, yeah, it's not true.
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We're really going there to do this, but he has to set the precedent that we can blow
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their boats up and make it about drugs, which is still reasonable to kill a bunch of people
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and still wait through banks.
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So he has a right to do it.
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Wait, it's not really why it is the election fraud.
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It is the destabilization.
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And if you want to beat the Democrats, folks, the globalists, the JICOMs and the criminal
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elements, the CIA, then you want regime change down there.
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Oh, boy.
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OK, so if I understand correctly, even though he won.
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Mm hmm.
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Right.
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He's going to take over Venezuela because of their election frauding on an election
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that he won.
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Thus keeping the Democrats from winning the election that he won.
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Kind of payback for 2020, you know.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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OK.
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So you can't come up with a worse spin to be delivered by someone who's pretended to
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be the character Alex has for the last 30 years.
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Apparently, the sinking of these boats is retaliation for Venezuela engaging in election
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fraud in the U.S.
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But Trump knows that he couldn't get away with saying that as the public reason.
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So he's lying.
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He's lying to everybody.
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If Alex is fine with the president lying about their use of the military and he has no problem
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with them killing people from another country because of unfounded conspiracies about election
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fraud, then he can't have any of the complaints that he's had over his career.
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He could have all the same political positions, but it's important to understand that he couldn't
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have made his arguments the way that he has if this is what he believes.
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Right.
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Trump thinks that Venezuela is doing election fraud in the U.S., so he's blowing up their
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boats and lying to the public about them being narco terrorists because that works better
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for him politically.
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Alex has accepted and justified that he's doing this because it's in service of solving
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a larger problem, which is that Venezuela is working with the globalists to do all that
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election fraud.
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If Trump has to lie in order to sell the public on accepting the military actions he's doing,
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then that's just the cost of doing business.
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If you believe this, then every false flag Alex has ever accused the government of pulling
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is pretty much justifiable.
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It's a little harder to justify, but I thought through and I could argue that 9-11 being
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an inside job can be an acceptable act if you use this framework that Alex put forth.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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But leaving aside any attacks where U.S. citizens were killed or the deaths happened inside
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the United States, what's the problem with false flags?
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No U.S. citizens were killed in the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and yet Alex brings it up
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regularly as a horrible false flag.
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But why?
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In the worst case scenario, LBJ lied about what happened in order to fight what he thought
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was a bigger problem, which was communists in Vietnam.
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That should be totally fine with Alex.
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He should have no problems.
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This is important because it strips bare what Alex really believes.
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For the better part of his career, he's only been interesting to anyone because he's pretended
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to be a guy who values principles.
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Tricking the public into accepting a war is wrong.
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That's a sentiment that people can get on board with.
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Seems very...
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I don't understand how it's even a spoken sentiment.
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It's a four quadrant position.
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Right?
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Everyone's in.
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Everybody should even just be like, oh, that's that's our baseline.
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Yeah.
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But behind that, Alex's real position was tricking the public into accepting a war is
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OK if I like the person doing it and support why they're doing it.
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Right.
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It's all conditional, and that's not what he sold the audience.
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I hate to say this 1100 episodes into our podcast, but it's kind of simple in one sense.
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Alex likes when his guys do things and doesn't like it when the guys he doesn't like do things,
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but he desperately wants to be seen as deeper than that.
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Sure.
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Another thing that Alex needs to address here is that if what he's saying in that clip is true,
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then he has been lying to his audience for years.
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Yes.
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He's claiming that he's known that fentanyl coming from the southern border isn't a big
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problem since like twenty eighteen.
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But he's continued to use fears around that issue to demonize immigrants and justify police
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state action.
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He's either lying in that clip directly or he's been lying about this for years to the
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audience in order to help Trump accrue power.
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Right.
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Through fear.
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Right.
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Which is kind of what his career has been about.
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Right.
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Warning that the globalists would do.
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I have a point of order.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So.
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I don't know, so if you're Alex.
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Right.
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And you've accepted that Trump is too smart to just say that it's election fraud.
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Right.
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And he is instead lying because that will allow him to do this politically.
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Right.
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But in no way is the opposition going to be fooled or even care what his quote on his,
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you know, stated reasoning is.
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You can't believe it.
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Even if it even if it's accurate, you shouldn't believe it.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I don't think either would necessarily like the opposition would be like, oh, OK.
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Right.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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People are still mad about the narco terrorist argument for the boats.
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Exactly.
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We don't need we don't need to like, oh, well, it's actually, you know, like.
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You got us there.
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So then he is saying, Alex must be saying that Trump is lying to you, the people who
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like Trump, because you are not smart enough to recognize that Trump is actually making
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the right move, whereas Alex is smart enough to recognize that.
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Thus saying that all of the MAGA people are kind of dumb.
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No, no.
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A number of the MAGA people are dumb.
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And that's fine.
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That is fine.
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You need them.
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Well, don't we all.
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But the true MAGA.
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Right.
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Right.
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They'll see that Trump is doing this right.
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And they're smart enough to read through it and know that he means them well.
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Right.
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He's lying for their own benefit.
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Right.
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Misinformation is good for friends and allies and enemies.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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All that shit.
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I think what we've I think what we've reached is a spot where I think and none of us were
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really fully ready to be here now.
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But Trump can just say, like, oh, I'm going after him for election fraud.
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Yeah, that would make no difference.
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Nope.
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So any concept of like Trump is saying this for political reasons does not I no longer
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accept that there are no such thing as political reasons.
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He's doing it.
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And then he's saying why he's doing it.
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I don't care if it's true or not.
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That's just what's happening.
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Yeah, it might as well be whatever he says is the truth.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So in this next clip, Alex, I can't really describe this in any other way as like he
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descends into a stretch of doing self affirmations online or on air about how nice how great
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his his stock.
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All right.
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Any time I've done something wrong and it's always I slip up, I'm not thinking I'm tired,
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I'm mad and I'll do a bad thing sometimes.
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Nothing huge, but I'll twist something in my mind, do something wrong, do something
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vengeful.
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I'll wake up at like 3 a.m.
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Just feeling terrible.
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And I'm like, this isn't happening very often.
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I'll say, why do I feel terrible?
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And I think.
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What would your grandmother think about that?
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And she's alive in heaven.
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She's watching.
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I literally feel her presence.
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And I have different connections, different grandparents, different things.
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But my mother's mother was such a great, smart, deep lady and such a truly committed Christian.
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Not some Bible thumper fake, but the real deal.
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Also, I spoke to the devil.
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I just think, you know, you come from really good people.
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You got to be the best.
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And you can't cut corners.
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Oh, I get tempted.
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I get tempted to use dark side stuff, folks.
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I know the dark side better than most people at the top of the dark side.
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I can use it so good on them.
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But again, that's the ring of Mordor.
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Yeah, it'll work in the first phase, but it always rots and creates something way worse
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when you use it.
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You cannot use the ring of doom.
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So so fun to listen to this just guy talking in the mirror.
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Just I mean, how do you not if you say that you cannot use the ring of doom?
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How do you not go, oh, Trump winning and now having the ring of doom is why we're here?
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Well, a couple like months ago, Alex said that Trump put on the right.
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And because he was trying to justify the Epstein stuff in your own metaphor.
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You're saying that you knew we were going to be here.
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Yeah.
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And Trump is evil.
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He put on the right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Also, you remember when Alex was talking about praying for the angel of death to visit his
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enemies?
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You remember that?
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I wonder what his grandma thought of that.
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Very he was she might be the angel of death these days.
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Could be.
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I would be alive.
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I would grab a Jones if I was looking for a new angel of death.
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I'd be like, let's let's pick from that family.
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Yeah, the Texans have got it.
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Buckley's dad.
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Yeah.
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Let's get him in there.
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And a DJ.
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No, I don't think that's genetic.
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Well, fair enough.
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Although I think it would have to be.
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I mean, Jones would have to believe that his DJ skills are a genetic sense memory.
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Yeah, it's something epigenetic.
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For sure.
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His dad gave him his.
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Yep.
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For sure.
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Yep.
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So Alex in this next clip talks about how I think it's really tough to say for sure.
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But it seems like he's saying that we need to kill everyone in Venezuela.
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Right.
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That seems like too many.
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Yeah.
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And then he starts rambling about how he predicted the plot of Ender's Game before seeing it.
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All right.
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Then he's just a mess.
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Oh boy.
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You know, if the Martians were had a mother ship out by the moon launching attacks on
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the Earth, we're not just going to fight the ships they're sending at.
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It's the first thing the Pentagon would do in five minutes.
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Say, where are those ships coming from?
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Blow up the origin.
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Blow up the mother ship.
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Blow up the flagship.
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Well, look at Venezuela as a Martian mother ship.
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Yeah.
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That is politically with money laundering and election fraud and all of it, the secret
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piggy bank where the Democrats and the CIA elements can commit their crimes.
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So obviously, you know, I never read the Ender Game books, but my sister didn't like them.
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And then I went and watched the movie and it was OK.
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Like.
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About 20 minutes to the end, there's this girl that's a genius and she knows how to
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beat her little boy or whatever it is and his little boy and then.
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They get to the home planet of the of the of the of the ant like creatures of attacking Earth.
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And instead of with the fleet blowing up all the ships, which he didn't have enough
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ships and missiles to do, he blows up the whole planet.
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And I said 20 minutes before we got the scene, I said, let me guess, I'm sitting there watching
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with my sister and Rex when he was just a little I go, I go, let me guess that he blows up the
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the ant planet.
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And my sister's like, well, how do you know that you have read the book?
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And I said, no, I can already see they're losing these battles and it's all and then
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they apologize.
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Oh, we're sorry.
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We just decided you and he saves a queen and its eggs and, you know, moves it to go build
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a new planet.
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It's like, do you even need to read 10 books or whatever it is to know this?
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That is a good question.
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Do you need to read books to know what's in them?
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The base.
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You know.
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If you tried to fight each bee that's going to come out of a big ass beehive hanging off
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a tree.
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Sure.
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The ping pong paddle.
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I'm listening.
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All you're going to do is make those bees man.
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Yeah, my dad was so bored on the ranch growing up as a kid.
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They used to fight bees and ping pong paddles and wasp.
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That was the sport.
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Seriously, till too many came out and you'd run.
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So I heard him tell the stories.
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I went did it myself.
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They got stung a bunch, so I didn't only did it once.
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Hey, man, you all right?
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You sound fucking stupid.
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This is a book.
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Um, wow.
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I do love a nice.
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How long ago was Ender's Game?
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Maybe eight, nine years ago.
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With the movie.
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The movie.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Rex had to be little.
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And I don't know if he was little.
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I don't know when the movie came out.
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I have no fucking idea.
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I assume it was.
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I mean, he's over.
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He's like 20 now.
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I think probably.
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Yeah.
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Little's relative.
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Look, here's the thing.
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I love hearing the secondhand sci fi plot.
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Always great.
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And I think Alex sounds fucking stupid.
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Yeah.
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And oh, I'm so impressed.
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You predicted a plot of a dumb fucking amazing.
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I would leave that alone, except that he's trying to use this as a metaphor to talk about
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eradicating Venezuela.
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Sure.
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That's what he's doing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he the real world version of what he's talking about is so serious and so devastating
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that this trivial shit and this idiotic way of talking about it, it just it's offensive.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it would be good for him to maybe explore the books specifically.
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The theme of it is a so like the main central conflict of the book.
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The theme is how do you end conflict for good?
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Right.
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So it is a child's way of thinking, right?
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To kill them all.
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That's the way you end conflict for good if there's none left.
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And that's why they exploit a child to do it, because the sign of maturity is when he
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realized the way you end conflict is by becoming friends.
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See, Alex hasn't read it.
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I think that's clear.
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Yeah, I think that's clear.
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And he seems dismissive of the idea of reading.
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It does feel like that might be why we're in a lot of the situations we're in.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex talks a little bit more about fighting bees.
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Naturally.
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Do you beat a nest of bees with a ping pong paddle?
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Or if you actually see how exterminators do evidence on the outside of the house,
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they just come up with a big giant bag, satchel around the top, tie a big knot,
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and then cut the top off.
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And now you got the whole mess of bees.
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And some people are liberal.
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They want them relocated somewhere, and they'll take them to some ranch.
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Or other people just say, I don't care.
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They just go throw it in trash.
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But see, we just have to go down to Venezuela and just take a bag and put it around the
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beehive and tie the top and cut it off and just take the whole big thing and put it in the trash.
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This is good metaphor.
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Government of Venezuela.
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Instead of with a ping pong paddle, sitting there mindlessly fighting each bee that comes out.
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Yeah.
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All right, let me move on to the other topics.
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Yeah, good idea.
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Yeah.
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So I think that Alex, what he fails to capture in this metaphor
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is that you can't put a bag around the Venezuelan government.
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Right.
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You will kill all the bees.
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I think he wants to imagine some world where you can just put a little bag around the queen.
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Right.
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Or whatever.
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And then free all the bees.
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Yes, it does feel like that is what he's going for.
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That's the kind of acceptable, non-genocidey kind of version of this.
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Yeah.
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But instead, what Alex is actually advocating for is extermination.
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Yeah, that is pretty much the definition of what he's saying.
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I mean, that's probably, at the very least, unrealistic.
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Yeah.
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You don't have that big a bag.
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No one's got that big a bag.
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There's just...
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Things are bigger than you might think.
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When you think about how big the Earth is, you're like,
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oh, I've seen a globe.
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Maybe it's six, seven feet tall.
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No, it's way big.
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Yeah.
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Even small countries are big.
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They're huge!
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They're bigger than bags.
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You're like, oh, this is a small country.
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But it's very large in real life.
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Yeah.
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So what Alex is advocating for is just fucking unacceptable.
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And the fact that this is okay is trash.
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If anybody within a hall of power or anywhere near a powerful person said things like this,
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they should be removed instantly.
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Yeah.
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Like, if a congressman is like, hey, what if we kill them all?
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They should just be defrocked.
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That should be it.
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And these are the kind of opinions being expressed openly and accepting.
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It doesn't cause controversy, him saying these things.
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Sure.
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And they're the sort of things that you should look back on 20 years later as horrific.
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Yeah.
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Like the fact that someone was doing this kind of a broadcast is damning.
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I mean, you think of some of the shit that people said immediately after 9-11.
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And it was allowed on TV.
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And it was mainly, I think, because everybody was so fucking reeling.
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You let some guy say absolutely crazy shit, not because anybody believes it, because it's
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like, everybody's thinking it.
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What the fuck do you say?
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This guy just did this.
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But later on, adults are like, well, now we can think clearly again.
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It's only the idiots that just keep going with the fucking...
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Yeah.
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And do it over and over again.
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Yep.
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So we got some other news, and that is one of the big stories.
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They've arrested the January 6th pipe bomber, who is not the person who Alex and the Blaze
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accused.
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Yeah.
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So that probably means the story's fake.
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Probably.
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And oh, they've busted the pipe bomber.
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They have the alleged pipe bomber.
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And it's just funny, because for years, we're told they have no idea who it is.
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And then as soon as people zero in on a lady, who called serif and just so happened to be
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staking out the house next door, they had another Capitol cop working at it.
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And the lady people zeroed in on and got into an agency software system that could track
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the gate, the walk, the biometrics.
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Had a very high probability it was her.
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Now that there's all this pressure, we have Brian Cole, everything we need to know about
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January 6th riot pipe bomb suspect arrested by FBI.
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Oh, anarchist ideologies.
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Okay.
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So the woman who the right wing media folks accused of being the bomber is definitely
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suing a bunch of the folks who just aimed her, and I hope she ends up owning the Blaze.
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It'll be nice.
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It's interesting that the right wing media got caught up in hysteria based on fake information
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pointing at one person being the January 6th pipe bomber, and then the FBI made an arrest
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of a different person shortly after, but that doesn't mean anything.
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Alex is presenting this as if it illustrates that the FBI is setting up this second guy
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because the conspiracists were getting too close with the first person.
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That's nonsense.
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Yeah.
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This is fucking baseless shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a little bit of like conspiracy theorists could take a lesson from gamblers in the sense
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that you should be excited at the outcome.
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You don't know what the outcome is.
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It's exciting either way.
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It's exciting to lose.
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It's exciting to win.
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It's the unknowing that's exciting, right?
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But not the part where you're like, eh, fuck it.
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But I also think that a good gambler, if such a thing does exist, knows to fold sometimes.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Discretion is the better part of valor.
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And I think that if you are sitting on, I don't even remember.
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I haven't played blackjack in so long that I don't remember what a bad blackjack hand
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is.
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Uh, 13.
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Sure.
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Don't sit on it.
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Don't sit on it.
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Yeah.
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Or whatever.
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I don't know.
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Don't do the thing that's bad.
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I was just doing the bad gambling thing.
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Yeah, except your losses.
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Oh, we lost this bet.
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Guess what?
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The FBI won this one.
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We'll get him next time.
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He's addicted to doubling down on a 13.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Can't do it.
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So I think part of the reason that he does that, though, is because there's real danger
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and not playing.
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Mm.
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And how they'll do it is they'll have somebody already on other charges.
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And they'll tell them you're going to take the dive for this and we'll drop it.
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They did that with a guy that committed a bunch of crimes and a bunch of stuff.
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And from our intel, they basically told him, uh, just go into this pizza place, shoot a
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gun to the ceiling, say that if we're Alex Jones, we'll drop your charges.
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And that's what happened.
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So simple.
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Remember Pizzagate?
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Oh, you're indicted for all this stuff in the state?
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Well, you just go shoot a gun in the ceiling, say Alex Jones made you do it.
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And they'll remember six months later when everything is dropped.
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Just like Ray Epps.
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Ray Epps gone to jail?
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No.
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All this is theater.
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This is beyond suspicious.
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This is ridiculous.
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It should be understood that what you're hearing in that clip is Alex doing preemptive damage
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control because he has a pretty good reason to believe that he and the alleged pipe bomber
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probably have some stuff in common.
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Yeah.
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Maybe he'll end up being a fan of the info war, like the Minnesota assassin that Alex
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thinks is fake.
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Alex doesn't need that kind of stuff piling up.
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So who cares?
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It's all fake.
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Who gives a shit?
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Let's not analyze our own behavior.
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Yeah.
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The guy that was arrested for the pipe bombing had no previous charges.
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So all the stuff Alex is fantasizing about here, that's just in his head.
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Also, the guy who shot at Comic Ping Pong, Edgar Madison Welch, served around three years
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in jail for that.
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His charges weren't dropped once the heat died down, and he was actually killed by the
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police during a traffic stop in January of last year.
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He had an outstanding warrant and pulled out a gun when he was stopped by the police who
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then killed him.
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Alex doesn't know any of this stuff because he doesn't care.
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All of this pain and tragedy that he exploits to make money has to just be theater to him,
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because if he stopped to consider his part in all of these real people's lives, his grandmother's
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ghost would never let him sleep again.
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Because he's a piece of shit.
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Yep.
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Anyway.
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Yeah, man.
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Everyone's probably just out to get him.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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Yes.
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That's a crazy story.
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That guy's...
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Like, once you reach the totality of somebody's life like that, once there's the all possibility
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maybe he'll turn around, shows up.
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Then it just really comes into focus.
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Something happened inside that guy's brain 20 years ago, and then it just set in motion
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a series of events that whenever they come in contact with an Alex Jones, with just that
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fucking little catalyst, all of a sudden the entire life is ablaze.
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Yeah.
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I don't look at it as inevitable, as you're making it sound.
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But yeah, now that he has passed, you can look at the trajectory.
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And yeah, I don't know everything about his case or anything, but it is really sad.
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Yeah.
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And the fact that he was killed by the police last year.
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Yeah.
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I'm not saying that I know enough about the case to even say the cops were out of line.
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No.
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He had a gun that he pulled out.
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I think that his life is the tragedy.
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Yeah.
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Now that it's over, because if he was still going, even if he was in jail now, you're
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like, there's a chance he could turn around, he could have some perspective on this, and
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then he could contribute something really, really interesting, having that point of view
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and that life.
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And then to have it go before any chance of anything is possible is a tragedy.
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I understand hating that guy while he's alive and thinking he's a piece of shit, but it
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is a tragedy to see that life exist.
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Yeah.
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And then to see Alex treat the story this way after he was such a big part of promoting
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and disseminating the conspiracies that led to this guy showing up at Comic Ping Pong
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and the life going off the rails in whatever way that it did.
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Yeah.
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I mean, who knows if it did before, but certainly publicly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's just exploitative of pain, and I resent it.
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Yeah.
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The amount of people who just will use you and then never think about you again.
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Right?
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You're the most important thing for today's news.
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And then you can die five years later and nobody cares.
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Yeah.
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Who gives a shit though?
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Who gives a shit?
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Because we got a sale.
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Alex has a new sale.
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All right.
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And it sucks.
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I cannot be thankful enough to you for keeping me in the fight.
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Thank you.
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You know who you are.
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And right now is a gigantic sale.
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The 12 days of Christmas.
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There's different sales coming up later in that.
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But until this weekend, you can buy any supplement and get any other settlement free.
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That means you can buy a $30 supplement and get a $45 supplement free.
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You can buy a $20 supplement and get a $35, $50.
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Supplements are always just kind of they're all lower than that.
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The point is that is a spectacular deal.
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And the Alex
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is a bad sale.
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The reason is that it reveals the inherent markup your store is putting on the things
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that you sell.
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If you can afford to sell all of the expensive items at the price of the cheapest items,
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then all of the difference in price is artificial.
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If these prices reflected real expenses, Alex needed to balance, then a sale like this could
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easily put him out of business.
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If product A sells for $10, but costs Alex $3 and product B sells for $40 and costs Alex
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$10, all it takes is a couple of people buying product A and getting product B for free for
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the scales to tip.
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Each time that happens, Alex is paying out $13 for the two products and making $10 on
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the sale.
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He's losing $3 every time he makes a sale.
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Obviously, I've just made up random prices to illustrate the point, but this is why you
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never give a more expensive product away as a bonus for someone buying a cheaper product.
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Because you think maybe if I bought this at $10, it wasn't $3 that it cost to make.
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Maybe it was $0.04.
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And then maybe if I buy a $40 product, I find out that it costs $0.04 to make.
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As long as you make people buy the more expensive one, then you're paying out $13, but you're
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still bringing in $40.
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So you make less profit than without the sale, but you're still ahead.
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That's why these deals are structured this way.
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If you're willing to do a sale like what Alex is doing here, then you're revealing that
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your markups are so high that it doesn't matter what anyone buys.
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If you can afford to do a sale like this, then you are fucking people over.
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You can't do this if your business is legitimate.
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Nope.
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Because even if you're doing it for a few days, you run the risk of people buying enough
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product that you are thousands and thousands of dollars in the red and you have to ship
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this product.
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No, it's non-existent.
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This would never happen.
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A real business would not do this for any number of possible reasons.
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And not even just for that you're losing this money.
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The optics of the sale...
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It looks desperate.
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It does something in your brain when you see...
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It's not generous.
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It does not look generous.
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No, no, no, no.
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It looks fucked up.
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Yeah, it is that...
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It's the sale version of somebody walking by a $20 bill on the ground and being like,
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is somebody watching to see if I'm gonna fuck with this in some way?
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It makes you suspicious.
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It doesn't make you go, ooh, 20 bucks.
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You know?
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And I guess there could be limitations.
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Like you can only do it once, like one sale per customer or IP address.
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Sure.
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And then you're not even gonna benefit much from the sale.
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It just looks bad.
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I don't know.
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It's a bad move.
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There's no upside to it.
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I mean, I guess it's okay if you're money laundering.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, he reads the headlines about Hegseth.
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And if you pay not even that close of attention, you'll notice that he contradicts himself.
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So things are getting very, very serious.
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Pentagon says Hegseth completely cleared a Signal Gate controversy by the Inspector General.
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Everything he said was true.
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He was set up.
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Watchdog finds Hegseth risk endangering troops by sharing a citizen of war plans on Signal.
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Oh, a leftist watchdog with the actual report is he did nothing.
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So the watchdog group in that headline isn't a leftist organization.
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It's the Inspector General.
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Ooh.
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In a matter of seconds, Alex has read two headlines that have gotten him spun into a contradiction.
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In his version of the story, the IG report gave Hegseth a total vindication.
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But in reality, they concluded that he didn't follow the rules and should learn more about the rules.
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As far as anyone in Alex's branch of the media cares, this is a total vindication because
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there's no impending consequences.
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So that's the way it's been treated inside their bubble.
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Because Alex doesn't do any work at all, he doesn't know what the report says.
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So when he reads a headline that runs counter to the spin that his media is putting on the story,
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he has to make up that this watchdog group in the headline is a leftist group
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or else the narrative starts to not make sense anymore.
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Yeah.
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This is what a liar does.
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Yep.
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There's no reason to act like this unless you're a liar.
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I mean, creating two people out of one person to rebut the other person who's not the same person,
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yet somehow is also the same person, seems to exist only in lies.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So anyway, Alex interviews his gold sponsor and what do you know, gold and silver are great-
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Is that going to be a great investment?
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Okay, can you get bullion?
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So much.
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Is this one like it'll actually hold the gold for you for real or is this one that
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will actually send you the gold?
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This, you're not getting the gold.
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You're not getting the gold?
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No.
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I don't like this then.
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Yeah, but like he's got it.
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It's cool.
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I love this scam.
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This is the great, the greatest scam of, of I've got it.
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You know, I was actually reading a little bit about this and it like obviously comes off quite scammy.
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Right.
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Bonsy scammy.
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But in reality there's actually like if you are someone who like sells collectibles or like gold
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coins, stuff like that, then holding onto it is really shady.
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Yeah.
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But they're like businesses that have like bars of gold and shit.
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Yeah.
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You kind of want them to hold onto it.
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Yeah.
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You can't move a bar of gold.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Someone needs to sell that for you.
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You're buying shares of his gold.
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Yeah.
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That's what's happening there.
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But the way that they describe it is very, very much like it's a Ponzi scheme.
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Like it's like, Oh yeah, your money is giving me the old person's money.
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Yeah.
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He complains about how like there's too much paper gold and paper silver and stuff.
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And I'm sure that that's true, but I also don't believe that he has all the inventory that he
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has sold.
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Yeah.
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So like, I believe he has a lot of paper assets too.
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I mean, why would you?
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Who's going to call you out on it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I, as I understand, it's legal to do that.
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If you're a dealer or like a precious metals broker, you can do essentially what banks
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do.
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Yeah.
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They don't have the full amount in their bank at all times.
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Yeah.
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I get it.
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I get the way that our finance system is imaginary and agreed upon.
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It's cool.
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Yeah.
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So, um, we're gonna skip past any talk of the gold sponsor, but he was there.
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And we jump back in here where, uh, Trump, uh, Alex is playing clip of Trump, uh, or
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discussing, uh, Trump saying that Somalis suck great.
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Now this Trump Somali thing where he says, you got to give it up to, you know, you got
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a garbage country.
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I mean, literally it's a pirate country where slavery is still legal.
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I mean, it is, it is, it is, it makes North Korea look like a, you know, vacation spot.
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And it's the arrogance of the Somali leadership, putting down America, putting down the West,
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always criticizing us and telling us we're bad.
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It can seem harsh what Trump's saying, but it's about not being politically correct and
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not being bullied with all this white guilt.
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Like, you know, in Omar's family where the ruling party over Somalia that were hated
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and overthrown, and they go back a thousand years as royalty previously.
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Makes sense.
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Sounds true.
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Makes sense.
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So Trump was asked about Somali and immigrants at a cabinet meeting and he said, quote, they
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contribute nothing.
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I don't want them in our country.
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Great.
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We can go one way or the other and we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage
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into our country.
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Wow.
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So that was on Tuesday, December 2nd, excuse me.
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And he was asked to clarify the next day on Wednesday.
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I'm sorry?
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And he said, quote, Somalians should be out of here.
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They've destroyed our country.
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I that's it.
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Did somebody, okay.
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Was he asked to clarify or was somebody giving him a softball second chance?
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Like, hey, that thing you said, that's a Nazi.
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So let's give it another go.
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You want to try not sounding like a fucking Nazi today?
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It was probably someone wanted the latter and got more Nazi.
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Yeah.
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Got a double dose of Nazi in your face.
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So I think that decency expectations have dropped so low that if he were just talking
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about Ilhan Omar, no one would even take notice of Trump's flagrant racism and hate.
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But this was the sitting president openly saying that people in the United States of
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a particular nation of origin work garbage.
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Yep.
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Trump is really just a walking manifestation that no one learned the lessons of the past.
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And Alex's actions have made it clear that he doesn't view things like the Chinese Exclusion
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Act as things we ever needed to learn from.
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Right.
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This is horrible.
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Yeah.
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I was thinking as I listened to that, though, like, what do you think it would take for
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Alex to finally not feel like everyone wanted him to feel bad because he's white?
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It seems like an unachievable goal.
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And I was trying to imagine the world as it would have to exist for him to be like, ah,
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finally.
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I mean, I think it is theoretically possible for the rational part of the world to get
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together, pool our resources and build a segregation fun park and then let these people live there.
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You know, wall it off.
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If you want to visit, that's fine.
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You have to live the way we live in our world.
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And if we go visit yours, we'll live the way you live.
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Surprise.
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We're not coming.
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No.
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I think this would backfire.
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It would totally backfire.
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They would try and take over everything and kill all of us.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I think, or we'd just end up never hearing from them again because they're all killed
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themselves over various differences they have with each other.
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There are worse outcomes.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's, I mean, look, in a book, I love your idea.
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Sure.
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In the real world, I don't know if it's...
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Nazi fun land not going to work for you?
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No.
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Well, it's going to be tough to sell people on the initial investment, that's for sure.
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So Alex is discussing this story and talking about how Trump is great because he's not
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succumbing to white guilt and all this shit.
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Sure.
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And you know, obviously bad.
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And listening to him is bad.
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But then he plays Trump's clip saying these things.
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Yeah.
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And I think that you just have to accept this.
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So this is how sick it is.
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Here's Trump on the Somalis.
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And they contribute nothing.
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The welfare is like 88%.
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They contribute nothing.
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I don't want them in our country, I'll be honest with you.
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Okay.
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Somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct.
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I don't care.
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I don't want them in our country.
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Their country is no good for a reason.
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Their country stinks and we don't want them in our country.
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I can say that about other countries too.
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I can say it about other countries too.
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We don't want them to help.
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We got to, we have to rebuild our country.
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You know, our country is at a tipping point.
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We can go bad.
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We're at a tipping point.
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I don't know if people mind me saying that.
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But I'm saying that we could go one way or the other.
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And we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country.
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Ilhan Omar is garbage.
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She's garbage.
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Her friends are garbage.
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These are people that work.
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These are people that say, let's go.
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Come on, let's make this place great.
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These are people that do nothing but complain.
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They complain.
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And from where they came from, they got nothing.
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You know, they came from paradise and they said this isn't paradise, but when they come
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from hell and they complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
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Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.
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Oh boy.
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So that's the president.
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You know, you don't have to be president.
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Mm hmm.
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I mean, there's something like to be like felt when you hear Alex defend Trump saying
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shit or me reading that stuff.
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Yep.
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Some of that stuff.
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But you got to accept that that's what he's saying.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there's no other words either mean something or they don't.
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If you think that that doesn't mean I'm a genocider who wants to genocide people, then
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we can't ever communicate because you don't believe in words.
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Right.
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You know, and in the saying of this hatred of Somalians who have come to America, he's
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also making very clear that there's other countries that he would like to obviously
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cleanse the United States.
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Oh yeah.
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This is like, it's just it's a snapshot.
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This is where we are.
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That's the president.
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You know, it is like I was thinking about this.
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I told you I was rewatching Andor and I was thinking about Emperor Palpatine and all this
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stuff.
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And I was like, man, what are you out here up to?
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What are you doing?
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Do you want to just kill the Jedi?
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You don't have to be the Emperor to just kill all the Jedi.
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I think he does in order to do order 66.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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To kill the younglings and the Jedis and restore balance to the force.
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Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.
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That's fine.
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But like, you don't have to stay Emperor.
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No, that's true.
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Let the bureaucratic people just fucking do their thing.
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What is Darth Vader doing?
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I want to rule the galaxy as father and son.
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Why?
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What's your agenda for the galaxy?
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There's no agenda here.
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He's just an old racist moron that people keep asking questions to and then listening
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to the answers to when you could just not ask him a question and put him in a fucking
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corner.
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Well, I think that a lot of people like Alex is an example of one of them.
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I think a lot of people project their own ambition and political ideas onto Trump.
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That's true.
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And imagine that this old racist idiot is furthering and like he's really on board with
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the exact thing that I want.
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Yeah, right.
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And in a lot of cases there is overlap because they both just want like,
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Right, we're both racists.
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We're ethnostate.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I think if Trump could shoot lightning, it would help.
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Like, I mean, it would be easier to it would both be easier to listen to him and also to
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not listen to him.
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You know, I'll just do what you say, man.
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You shoot lightning.
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Yeah, I think if we're in a situation where there's like a dark villain and they can shoot
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lightning, I'm taking it more seriously than this rambling dipshit.
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No, people could just push him out the window.
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Like, it would be fine.
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Like, everybody would be like, relief.
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Guess what?
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Someone could not push him and he could fall.
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He could just fall.
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Or you know what?
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We could say he fell and no one would ever bother.
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Yeah, let's just agree that he fell.
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He can't levitate.
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He can't, uh, you can make a documentary in 50 years about how an entire country just
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agreed a guy fell and then we moved on.
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Trump has no midi-chlorians.
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See, he can't stop us.
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No, he has zero powers.
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So anyway, no one's buying the pipe bomber story.
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Well, I mean, and by that, I mean, Alex isn't buying it and that means no one is.
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I mean, I'll just tell you, I don't buy this at all.
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Nobody I know inside or outside the FBI is buying it.
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This pipe bomber thing.
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We have all this information come out after four plus years of suppression.
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For the first four years, call Serafin writes, the FBI had their thumbs, you know, where
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for nine months, the new FBI had their thumbs, you know, where
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and the number three, Steve Baker, USA breaks the story three weeks ago.
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Four CBS News debunks the story with puppies turns out to be made up.
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Literally the woman's playing with puppies, so she couldn't be there.
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Alibi five CBS News breaks the arrest story.
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Is it going to be some schizophrenic?
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It is like an anarchist nutball.
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It's completely out of his mind.
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They sure move fast to find the pipe bomber.
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Once this all came out, doesn't look good.
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I haven't watched the press conference yet.
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It's ongoing.
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And just go to X.
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Everybody will have the best excerpts out of this.
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Yeah, I just want to read tweets about this.
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Yeah, that would make more sense.
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So if Alex thinks that Kash Patel, Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi are lying in order to blame
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a patsy for the pipe bombings, then he needs to accept that that's what Trump wants.
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No one in the opposition party could do anything if he fired any of them and replaced them
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with whoever he wants.
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So it's just silly to pretend that there's any pressure coming from anywhere other than Trump.
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Yep.
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It's fucking stupid.
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Okay.
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Here's where I am interested.
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I'm always interested in bombers because I feel like there's a very small number of people
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who are capable of building a bomb and then capable of using it without blowing themselves
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up, right?
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So I feel like it's a lot easier to find bombers.
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If I'm law enforcement, there's way fewer than people who can use a gun.
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Yeah, in theory.
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You got to make pipe bombs.
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Can you buy pipe bombs?
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Can you buy World War II pipe bombs?
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Well, I think it takes less skill to make a bad one.
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Sure.
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And a bad one is less likely to blow you up.
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Or more likely to blow you up.
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No, if it just doesn't work.
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Oh, well, if it just doesn't work.
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Yeah.
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I mean, but the definition of doesn't work can mean doesn't work and then also works
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too good at the wrong time.
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Yeah.
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Let's say it's more likely that you will just create a tube.
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A dud.
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Yeah.
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So I think that that kind of...
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I worry that it might be a bit easier than you think.
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That's something I hope I never know.
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Yeah.
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I mean, maybe I'm sure that there are ways to build a bomb, right?
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With stuff.
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But I feel like most bombs wind up being built by somebody who went to a hardware store at
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one point.
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Sure.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look, baking soda, soda, Coke, put in a volcano.
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Put in a little...
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Yeah, I got you.
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Boom.
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Maybe add a little Mentos in there, see what happens.
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Yeah, the Freshmaker.
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Yeah.
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So Alex plays a clip of Kash Patel from this press conference, and he has a sort of familiar
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tune that he's singing.
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When you attack American citizens, when you attack our institutions of legislation, when
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you attack our nation's capital, you attack the very being of our way of life.
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And this FBI and this Department of Justice stand here to tell you that we will always
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refute it and combat it.
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We will provide the safest country...
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Alright, let's stop here.
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Let's go to the tin beds, X will grab all the most important stuff out.
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I'm just speechless at this point.
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I mean, if you're gonna cover up the pipe bombing because it was the Democrats and all
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the rest of it, you're trying to protect the agency, so just shut up about it.
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Just shut up.
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He just wants everyone to shut up.
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All these people who are doing cover ups, they should shut up.
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I mean, I think that's everybody's best move.
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Sure.
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I think that you telling Patel to shut up and Alex telling him to shut up mean very
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different things.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But yeah, it's the same advice that he had for Trump with the Epstein stuff, just shut
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up.
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Yeah, I mean, I wonder how much they could get away with...
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So it's like, Alex, could they get away with just being more mysterious, but because they're
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all shit talkers, they have no choice but to blast it on fucking Twitter, right?
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They could get away with so much if they were like, we're not doing it, and then just wink
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right?
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Yeah.
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If they all acted like professionals and weren't all more or less performing for a
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social media audience, then yes, it would be all manageable because most of the time
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they would be shutting up or speaking in professional language that has plausible deniability
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baked into it and all this like neither confirm nor deny.
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Totally.
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Yeah, but yeah, all of them are shitheads.
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We've overthrown countries and the country was like, everybody in the United States was
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like, we're probably not overthrowing a country right now.
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I'll just move on with our lives.
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And then 30 years later, we're like, what happened to that banana republic?
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You know, we would have been fine.
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Yeah.
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Instead, all of these people are like, I'm gonna kill you.
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Here's a binder.
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I think everybody's trash.
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Let's do a photo op.
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Oh God, these people.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has another guest on who's a lady who I think makes TikToks that Alex likes.
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Um, she's fine, but the interview is derailed because it turns out that Alex knows her stepdad
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who is a janitor who was in world trade center, one of the buildings during 9 11.
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Yeah.
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He became a figure in the 9 11 conspiracy world.
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And the interview just deteriorates into Alex begging her to get him back on the show.
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It's really funny because I think she comes off pretty well and like a competent media
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figure, but Alex can't stop talking about her stepdad and like, Oh, me and him go way
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back.
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He looks just like Desi Arnaz.
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That is the funniest outcome for somebody who is going on.
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That's the funniest you can get.
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Yeah.
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You know my stepdad, um, and you won't shut up about interviewing him.
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This is my time.
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Asshole.
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Oh, I know your stepdad is like, that would make my, I would be like, okay, I got to end
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this call.
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I'm going to crestfall because we're out of here.
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Alex has the crew dig up clips of her stepdad on the show.
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I got to get out of here, man.
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I got to go.
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I'm so busy.
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I have a, there's a watch on my phone that I need to leave.
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At best it's rude and she handles it quite well.
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Yeah.
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I think.
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Fair enough.
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But I don't care.
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Good on her.
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So maybe her stepdad will show back up in the future.
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We'll find out.
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But it's more important that Alex has another guest on later.
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Okay.
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And that is a guy who's a complete lunatic.
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Okay.
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Uh, Patrick Byrne is back.
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Okay.
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Kitey, defender of the republics, our guests till about five after next hour.
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Then you notice the president reposted my interview with Patrick Byrne about the real
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reason we're going to Venezuela.
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The president can't tell you.
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President wants you to know we're about to say, I'll leave it at that.
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And I got some more calls yesterday about this from, uh, let's just say a place in
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Pennsylvania Avenue saying, we want you to have Patrick back on.
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Actually, that was two days ago.
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We tried to get Patrick on.
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He said, I'm not ready to come on until today.
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Now he's ready with exclusive information and he is, it's declassified.
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He's an intelligence agency operator.
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I'm not going to say what agency he's with, but I guess Flynn's full endorsement.
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Let's just say it's not the CIA.
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Uh, so, cause that's who we're really at war with and they're not all bad in there,
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but it's the, it's the, it's the biggest one.
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It was the one set up after world war II that kind of took over the other intelligence
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agencies and it's, it's the big problem.
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It's the mother ship of the kind of the clearinghouse of corruption.
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So Alex is saying this shit to try to make it sound like he has some secret information
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and he's an insider, but it really just comes off like he's a stooge and none of this is
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true, but if you take him at his word, then you have to believe that he's taking programming
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and guest booking instructions from the government.
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That's a pretty cool thing for a guy who loves the free press to do.
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Oh yeah.
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Trump tweeted about this because we're telling you messages that he can't tell.
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This is just QAnon.
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Yep.
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They're just doing Q again.
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Wasn't that fun?
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I guess.
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I mean, it was more fun for them than having to take responsibility for the horrible things
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they believe happening.
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It moved the needle a little.
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I think that this is stupid and Trump posted this clip that Alex is talking about on Truth
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Social as one of his, I believe it was like 150, 160 posts he made in one night.
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Like he was on a tear just posting a ton of shit.
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And so Alex is so excited that Trump tweeted something of his.
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There are so many small things that should just be automatic disqualifiers.
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Like five tweets in a row should keep you from being president.
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Like that should be like that.
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I think we should all agree on that.
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I think we can all agree on that.
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Yep.
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Anybody who is tweeting five times in a row is not doing the presidenting job well.
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You're not doing a living well.
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It's a sign.
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It's an indicator of like shit's bad.
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Yeah.
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If someone even in a like not high stakes public position was doing that, you'd be worried.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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This guy's got nukes.
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He thinks Somalis are garbage.
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And his brain doesn't work at full capacity anymore.
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Great.
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So anyway, Patrick Byrne is Intel.
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He's a secret agent and what have you.
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But this is so dumb.
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You know, I'm not judging Patrick Byrne.
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He's a great patriot, but a billionaire, started some of the most successful companies in America.
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He's been declassified in US intelligence work for the country.
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And when he found out the Democrats were double crossing America and went public against him
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in the last eight, nine years.
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But when I've been attempting to be recruited over and over again by intelligence agencies,
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I've said no.
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He refused the CIA, but worked for some others.
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General Flynn's confirmed that.
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I, I, I, I don't trust people to try to recruit me, but I know that changes.
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And then they can set you up.
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I just said no.
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So Trump had been in office about three months in 2017.
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And then some folks from the White House come down here
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and they're with different intelligence agencies, not the CIA.
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And they say, hey, we got this cute thing we launched super classified.
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We know you got in trouble with the WikiLeaks.
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You didn't put it out, but you, you were the most successful covering it.
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And we know you're gonna get a bunch of trouble.
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We know the Democrats are gearing up to sue you over all this.
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We got a way to leak stuff with, with anonymity and then we'll be protected.
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And I said, and then how do you protect the source of that and not have somebody take the identity?
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They said, yeah, we thought about that problem.
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I said, no, thank you.
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I'm not going to be part of that.
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And I love the Q people.
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Like I'm on there 31 years.
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Everybody knows who I am.
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They know I break constant stuff all the time.
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They know I can call up.
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If I need the president to call me, he'll call me within a day.
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I don't even try to get that done.
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Like Patrick Burns, a real person, Roger Stone's a real person.
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General Flynn's a real person, former head of defense intelligence.
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And I'm not at war with the Q people in general.
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It's just becomes this thing of back then.
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Roger told me a month before the election, 2020, he goes, we're going to lose.
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And he's told the story on air since then.
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He goes, don't tell people this, but he goes, Trump won in a landslide in 2016.
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That was 10, 15% baked in fraud.
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We had to override.
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He said, these Q people saying we're invincible and Hillary's in Gitmo.
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We're doing internal polling.
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They think Trump's got in the bag.
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He doesn't.
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We got to have 10, 15% more or he'll have it stolen.
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And of course he was right.
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So I'm not singling out the Q people because they're not any influenced now
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because it's so discredited.
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The problem is you've got all these white pill people that say don't question
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anything in the administration.
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When Trump, this is a way better administration, but it's still problems.
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No, the spotlighting helps.
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Of course, correct.
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When Trump gets the right information, he always makes the right decision.
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So this thought started with Alex trying to justify Patrick
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Byrne being an agent in some non CIA intelligence agency.
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And we've gone pretty far off track.
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We've gone afield.
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This is illustrative of why people generally play short clips of Alex,
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because when it gets a little bit longer, he starts talking about hitting bees
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with a ping pong paddle and everything just fucking stops making sense.
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Yeah, it takes a while.
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Thoughts get disconnected very easily.
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So an important correction here is that Alex has admitted on his show that he
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tried to take over and steer the QAnon stuff, but it didn't work.
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True.
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Q folks hated Alex and thought he was a shill in no small part because they
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resented Alex's then employee, Jerome Corsi, trying to write a book and brand
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himself as the Q expert.
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Alex created his own Q in the character of Zack, who is a secretive high level
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whistleblower made up fun stories for the Infowars audience.
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The truth is that Alex tried a bunch of different things to profit off QAnon,
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but he couldn't because it was something that was truly decentralized.
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You could make a lot of money off Q and the audience by fleecing them and just
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giving them what they wanted, but it wasn't something that was cooptable by a
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figurehead.
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Alex's version of conspiracism is incompatible with how QAnon unfolded
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because it relies on Alex being the only source of truth.
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Other people can have some good points and some folks are more heroic than
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others, but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what Alex
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says.
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It might be different than what he said yesterday, and that's part of the
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mystery of the Infowar.
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If you listen to Alex and you like him, then whether you know it or not, you
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have accepted that premise, that he dictates reality.
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Meanwhile, QAnon led to the rise of a bunch of interpreters who tried to
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figure out what Q's posts meant, but they were all subservient to Q, who is
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in turn subservient to Trump.
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The chain of command was clear, and as big and full of themselves as any one
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of these interpreters could get, they couldn't be Q.
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They couldn't contradict Q.
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Right.
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They're like remoras eating off of the shark Q.
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Yeah.
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Alex cannot exist as a mere interpreter because the god of the universe talks
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to him on a regular basis.
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No matter how high Q's clearance is, he doesn't know more than a deity, so
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there really can't be that kind of power structure for Alex in the media
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that he puts out.
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Alex couldn't tap into Q's audience, not because they refused to be led like
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sheep, but because they were already being led by somebody else.
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So in order to get their money, Alex needed to usurp Q, which he tried to do,
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and failed.
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That's the story of all this.
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Here's what you do, alright?
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You know what a Q looks like?
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Lot like a G.
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Add a couple O's.
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Add a couple D's.
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You got god, baby.
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I was hoping you were gonna say Gugliata.
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No.
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Tom Gugliata, former power forward for the Warriors.
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Wasn't that spelled with a U?
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Shit.
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Didn't he play with Chris Mullen?
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Anyway, Patrick Byrne's a lunatic.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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It's fun, and I think that Alex is trying to make him into a new Q figure.
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Okay.
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Take Patrick Byrne on last week.
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We said in the interview, we said, we're saying things Trump can't say.
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He's saying it's about fentanyl, it's about cocaine.
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That's the side issue that gives him the legal reason to do it, which is authorized under
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Thomas Jefferson's precedent and the war powers and all of it.
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And the emergency clear and present danger.
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But the real issue is Venezuela, one of the richest countries in the world, piggybacking
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the globalist election fraud, all of it, as General Flynn and others have said.
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And before Trump got in, we said he's moving on Venezuela or he's not serious.
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Just like we got to end Ukraine where they're laundering the money back to the Democrats.
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But Trump can't come out and say we're about to hit Venezuela because it's the Democrats piggyback.
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Obviously.
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So what does Trump do?
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He posts the link, and then they later posted more links to the full interview to what Patrick
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Byrne said.
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I tried to get Patrick on three days ago, because I got called from the White House.
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He said, hey, they really liked that interview.
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You should get Patrick Byrne on more and talk about this, this, and that.
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I'm going to stop there.
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I said, okay, Patrick, I'm too busy.
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I'm working on some stuff.
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I'll come on in a few days.
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This is just Q shit.
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Trump has a message that he wants to get out, but he can't tell the public the whole story.
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So he has to send cryptic messages through tweets about how somebody has decoded his
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moves successfully.
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If you follow all the breadcrumbs, you'll get there.
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He would tell the whole world what he's doing, but the world isn't ready for the storm that's
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coming.
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So this message is really only for the really smart elect among the base, like Alex and
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Alex's fans, who recognize that Alex is a genius.
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Leaving all that aside for a second, I think Alex should have a bigger problem with the
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president lying to the public about why he's using the military for partisan political
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goals.
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The way Alex is describing this, it's all to attack the Democrats because they're laundering
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money through Venezuela, which is not what the military is for.
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That seems like a really bad precedent to set, especially considering how many countries
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you could justify bombing based on Trump using the presidency to make personal business deals
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with them.
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So could you bomb Trump's golf courses in other countries in the next presidency?
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Stupid.
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I mean, I don't know.
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The thing that I hate that Alex is allowed to do, and all of them are allowed to do,
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and everybody in the media is allowed to do, is to say, Trump hit Venezuela, or Hegseth
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hit Venezuela.
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They don't go, here are the names of the 10 people that are going to win this game, and
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here are the names of the 10 people that Trump and Hegseth murdered.
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Because it's a lot easier if you go like, oh, he attacked Venezuela.
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He didn't attack Venezuela.
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He blew up a boat with a bunch of people on it.
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He murdered those people.
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That's not Venezuela.
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No, but it is a belligerent act against the state.
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Sure, sure.
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But I mean, they're not being held accountable for an act against the state or an act against
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people who have every bit of the right to life that they do.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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I think it's not one or the other, it's both.
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Right.
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You know, like I think that...
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Right.
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I don't think that saying, like, they should say Trump hit Venezuela or attacked Venezuela.
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Sure.
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I think that appreciating both the attack against the country and the loss of life and
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murder is...
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Right.
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That would be appropriate.
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Right.
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It's just that Alex is able to say Venezuela and make it look like this is an enemy combatant.
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Oh, yes.
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As opposed to, these are people.
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Even if they're on a drug boat, they're just people who work on a drug boat.
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Maybe not when you kill them.
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Right, like when they got off the drug boat, maybe they got fired and they would have become
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a fucking teacher next year.
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And instead you murdered that guy.
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You're a murderer.
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So Alex has said in the past that the fentanyl and the drugs, it's a good reason to shoot
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these boats.
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Sure.
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But now he's saying that Trump is just lying to everybody.
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And it's really about the Venezuelan, they're being involved in stealing elections and money
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laundering with the deep state.
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Which again is why it's okay to murder people.
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So Patrick Burns, the expert on this stuff, right?
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That's right.
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Alex has presented him as such.
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Uh-oh, Patrick doesn't agree with Alex.
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I think the president also highlighted that because I was telling the world, roll early,
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roll often.
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There are certain key figures who are considering flipping sides.
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And I want them, I think the president clearly wanted them to think about that.
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When you're part of a mafia like this and it's coming apart, they only give deals to
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the first guys that come in with information or can cooperate a bit.
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You want to be one of the first people.
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And now you're here with a major deal that just got made.
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So again, why would Trump want people to not, he didn't just post that, they also link to
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a full interview.
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Why does the president want people to see what you said?
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Well, he said in the interview, there's things Trump can't tell people about while we're
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really doing this.
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It's really about taking the Democrat deep state piggy bank away.
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Well, that's a hypothesis on your part.
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I don't think, I think there's a lot, that's probably on the list of reasons to hit Venezuela.
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That's probably not in the top list of the top 10.
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Jesus.
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What the reason to hit Venezuela.
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So yeah, I think he was also by retruthing that, doubling down on this, telling any people
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out there with information now is the time.
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And I can assure any such people you've got days, maybe hours to go make your deal.
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That was probably the message is roll right now.
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Yeah.
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Roll early, roll often.
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Oh yeah.
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So he's just saying that people should flip on the deep state.
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That's it's not that Trump is trying to send subtle messages that he's attacking Venezuela
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because of the right election, their money laundering stuff.
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Oh, I would say it's a little on the rude side to say it's not even in the top 10.
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Yeah.
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I would give you, I mean, maybe it's in the top five, you know, like that would be a more
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generous, like maybe it's in the top five.
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I don't even think you need to bring numbers into it.
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I, I think you say that's an interesting line of thought where my gut leads me more than
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it is a message that people need to roll over.
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You're just inherently more polite than I am.
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I just think it flows better for these dicks.
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But I think that Patrick Byrne, number one, super rich, formerly sleeping with a Russian
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spy.
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He's an asshole.
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I think he's probably a drug user.
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Wow.
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And he is free in a way.
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He's a wacky kind of personality.
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And I think Alex hates him.
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Yeah.
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I think Alex hates talking to him because he will say stuff like that.
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It's not even in the top 10.
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That's, that's aggressive.
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That's fucking, those are fighting words on Alex's show.
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They should be.
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Yeah.
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You just blew up my narrative like it was a Venezuelan boat.
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I spent hours on this.
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I spent hours talking about this and you're saying it's not even in the top 10?
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I just spent hours talking about this based on the fact that your interview with me was
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retweeted by Trump.
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You fucking asshole.
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You fucking asshole.
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So anyway, Patrick thinks that people in the army should kill their superiors.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I think, well, I think they're dreaming if they think the military is going to support
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them.
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Some weenies may.
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I think if some weenies try to follow this stuff about stand and like officers try to
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stand against and go with this normizing color revolution that they started, their own enlisted
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people will liquidate them.
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Remember in Vietnam, you know, fragging the Lieutenant was quite a popular thing to do.
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And I think that the, and from what I hear, the enlisted are so fed up at their officers
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start leading in this direction.
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They're going to get, they're going to frag some generals.
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They're not the military and they should, they swore no to defend the constitution.
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And that includes any corrupt generals or colonels who are trying to get you to break
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with the constitutional structure.
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So that's what you're supposed to do for people that know history, like Patrick Byrne,
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who is a historian.
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If you're given a commander in chief order and you believe it's legal and you're having
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commanders saying, don't follow it.
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It was like me like massacre, kill the whole village.
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That's obviously a follow it.
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But the president's like arrest, illegal aliens, or, uh, you know, stop a drug boat.
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If you're given an order not to do that, you're a hundred percent need to disregard who gave
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that order and follow the president's order.
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Direct arrest your superior or kill him.
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Whoa.
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This show is insane.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Whoo.
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I like, I like people who really feel like you're, you've, you've gotten your military
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history from movies.
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Just, just pure movie.
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Saving private Ryan was a documentary.
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Apocalypse now was accurate to the nth degree.
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Like, man, I think you might need help.
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Yeah.
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Help, help, help.
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Read a book.
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No.
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And anybody who tells you to kill him.
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Kill him.
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If you get an unlawful order from your commander in chief to read a book, you kill him.
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Yeah.
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How dare you.
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It's your God given right.
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And the 73rd amendment to not read.
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And anybody who tells you otherwise, uh, read, don't read them the constitution.
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Unread them the constitution.
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Holy shit.
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Jesus.
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So Patrick Byrne, he's on to break some big news and that is, he has solved the deep state.
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He's figured it all out.
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Nice.
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Pack it in.
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It's just a matter of time now.
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Great.
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All right.
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So let's start over now.
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Here's the massive news.
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Well, you couldn't come on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday.
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You're here now.
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You have the breaking news.
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You got out in the Dallas express and other publication.
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You have this letter.
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As you said, the defections are happening.
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This is a big deal.
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Patrick Byrne, tell us what's happening.
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Exclusive former Maduro spy chief letter to Trump seeks to expose narco Terrace war on us.
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This is a game changer.
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Tell us what's happening.
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Yes.
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The former head of military intelligence of Venezuela.
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His name, uh, uh, Hugo Carvajal.
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He's been sitting for two years.
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He left.
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He's defected in 2017 from the regime and stayed in Spain.
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We arrested him two years ago.
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He's an, and he's been sitting in prison in New York.
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He had, he reached out to me, to, uh, to me and the people I've worked with with you,
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the Gary and the guy I call Zorro, the three of us who've been on this and offered to flip
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and turn everything up.
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He now just, you know, everything we've been fighting is actually this election system
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is categorized as a weapon and it reports to the Venezuelan military intelligence.
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So this is the guy who was over the weapon.
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He was Nicholas Maduro's and Hugo Chavez, director of intelligence.
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So he knows it all.
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He got in touch and let us know that he would flip sides.
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Oh, this is big.
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So it is true that a military intelligence guy for the Venezuelan government, Hugo, uh,
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Carvajal has come out and offered to give a bunch of information about various illegal
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things that Maduro and Hugo Chavez.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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There's no reason to believe that he reached out to Patrick and his friend Zorro.
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It would be very strange for him to know Zorro.
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Right.
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Gary.
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And it sucks if you're Gary.
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The other guy is Zorro.
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The other guy is Zorro.
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Or maybe, maybe if you're Gary, you're like, you'll be Zorro because if something happens,
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they're looking for Zorro.
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What if that's his Christian name though?
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Gero can disappear into anywhere.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Talking Gary.
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Yeah, Gary.
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So Carvajal sent a letter to Trump, which his lawyer sent to the Dallas Express.
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The Dallas Express, by the way, is one of many websites that's created to look like
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a local news site, but it's actually just a right-wing blog.
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Great.
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They're trying to trick people with the optics of...
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Lying is a real good way to build trust.
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So this dude's facing the rest of his life in prison.
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So it makes sense that he would want to work out some kind of a deal with a president who's
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been super into pardoning people who help him out.
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Yep.
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Validating a ton of Trump's conspiracy shit about Trend de Aragua in the 2020 election
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would definitely get him a pardon.
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Oh yeah.
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I don't know what Carvajal knows or doesn't know, but I love the idea that Patrick and
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Zorro are negotiating and flipping on the deep state.
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But if he has the information that he says he has, then just fucking show it then.
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This is big.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I like Patrick.
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I like Patrick because Patrick is somebody that I can listen to and immediately go like,
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oh, you're fucking crazy, man.
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Yeah, dude.
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You're fucking nuts.
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Yep.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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You're the kind of guy who's going to yell at a judge.
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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You're crazy.
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About something that I won't be offended by.
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You know, just like, oh, there's too many bees.
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And it's like, yeah, get him.
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Yeah.
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And his disrespect also drips over into Alex, which makes him a fun figure to have on here.
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It's nice.
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Yeah.
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So like if this dude is flipping and all that stuff, then it's over.
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And the only, I mean, the only thing we could worry about is like the evidence not being
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safe, but thankfully the evidence is safe.
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Oh, good.
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He got in touch and let us know that he would flip sides and that he negotiated rigging
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elections in dozens of countries and his office was wired for sound.
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He has videotapes of dozens of countries in his negotiations.
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Don't worry, people.
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They're all safe.
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They're all hidden.
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Thank God.
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He was offering to turn this over and help.
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He cooperate.
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And what's really important to know since June, what's really important to know is the
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DOJ and the CIA blocked it.
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The CIA has been saying he doesn't have any useful information.
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That seems odd.
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The Venezuelan direct general of military intelligence doesn't know anything worth
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debriefing about.
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That was grand.
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That was our Biden to make sure he stayed quiet.
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Yeah.
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So Bern is over promising here, and this is not what you want to do as a conspiracy theorist.
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If you introduce tapes of this guy negotiating elections and tell the audience that they're
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safe, you're going to have to come up with a damn good reason why you aren't producing
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those tapes.
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Unless you have those tapes, don't mention them.
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Even if you've seen them, you should shut up until you have copies because now the absolute
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proof of the thing you desperately want to prove is real exists and we're just waiting
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for you to show it.
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Yep.
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There's no more convincing for you to do.
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We don't care what other side conspiracies you have.
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This is proof.
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So just put it out.
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You have to start there.
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Do it.
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And then we can talk.
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Why aren't you dead?
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You can't just tell me about these videos.
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You have to show them to me and then we can talk about your conspiracy.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's how it works.
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Yeah.
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Nothing else matters now.
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You have the smoking gun.
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Show it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Also, Alex is lying.
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Carvajal was not snatched up by Biden to try and cover his tracks.
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He was ultimately arrested and extradited to the United States in 2023, but that was
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the end of a long process that began with his arrest in 2019 when Trump was in office.
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Mm-hmm.
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The US got Spain to arrest him, but the request for extradition was denied.
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And when he was released, he just disappeared.
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Nice.
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He was arrested again in Spain when they found him in 2021.
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And at that time, he was unable to block getting sent to the US.
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Sure.
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He was a wanted criminal before 2019 and he'd been arrested prior.
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He left the military in Venezuela in 2017 and he was in good standing with Maduro until
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he backed Juan Guaido when he named himself interim president and tried to oust Maduro.
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So he chunked it.
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Yeah, that didn't work.
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So Maduro expelled Carvajal from the military, which left him a man with no country.
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Right.
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When Alex and Patrick are saying that intelligence assessments or the CIA blocked it, they didn't
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want to interview him.
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Right.
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What I have seen more is people saying he is not a reliable source of information.
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Why would he be?
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He is somebody who has flipped a number of times and has lied a lot.
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Yeah.
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And is facing a life sentence, has incentive to lie.
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He's not a high value source.
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He may know a lot of stuff.
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I'm sure he does.
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I'm sure he knows a lot of stuff.
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The level of trust that you can put into someone with his background is quite low.
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Yeah.
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The idea of trusting anything anyone in any sort of covert intelligence says about anything
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is absurd.
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It's just absurd.
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The moment you trust it, you're trusting the thing that's going to get you killed.
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Yeah.
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And for him, it seems low confidence is around.
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Yeah.
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And I think that pretending that he has all this information that threatens to topple
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US elections and all of the deep state, he's been in prison for months, longer.
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I'm not saying...
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He's alive.
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That's bullshit.
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I'm not saying that we need to have the running man, literally.
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But what I am saying is if something like this happens where a high ranking
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military guy flees the country, we should get to watch.
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There should be cameras.
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We should be watching him try and escape.
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He should have a camera in Spain in his villa where he's living, hiding out.
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I think we should watch.
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You know, I think it would be more boring than you think.
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Oh, sure.
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Remember that episode of The Wire where Omar is hiding out and he goes to get cereal?
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Yeah, he just goes and gets cereal.
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It would be a lot of that.
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It would be.
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Yeah.
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Not so much of the guns and running and stuff.
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Right.
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It would be a lot of downtime.
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Right.
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That's definitely true.
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But man, I think part of it is I feel like I could stay out longer.
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You know, if I'm kicked out of the Venezuelan military in 2017, I'm not getting caught in
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2019.
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That's not long enough.
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You got to be better at this, man.
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Jordan.
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What?
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I mean, the only thing I can say to you is...
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It's time to go.
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Go join the Venezuelan military then.
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Let's do this.
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I mean, I want to see.
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I kind of want to test whether or not I can...
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We've got to...
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I mean, you have to test your hypotheses.
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Is the fugitive...
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Is the life of a fugitive really just a matter of how long you can live the life of a fugitive
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as opposed to like how hard it is to escape stuff?
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There's that British show that I've seen a couple of episodes of where they have like
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intelligence people try and hunt down celebrities.
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Oh, that's fun.
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Like there was one with Ed Gamble and James Acaster.
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Sure.
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They were trying to outrun the people who were hunting them down.
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I think I could hunt down James Acaster pretty quick.
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I think Ed did last longer.
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I think James might have been caught.
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He's like a wacky waving inflatable tube guy.
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Yeah.
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But like I think that's what you want.
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You want that experience.
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See how well you would do.
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I want to see if I can escape and then I want to see how long I can stay on the America's
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top wanted or most wanted list.
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And ideally you'd probably want it to not have stakes.
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Yeah, and I don't want to have committed a crime.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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These are the problems that this TV show solves.
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There's a lot of problems.
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Yeah.
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Let's get you on that show.
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I'm excited.
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You should just do Survivor.
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I don't know.
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I wouldn't survive.
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Yeah.
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Case in point.
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No, it's too hot.
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Oh, okay.
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So Patrick Byrne talks a little bit about his relationship with Mike Flynn and calls
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him his handler, which isn't suspicious.
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That's totally cool and fine.
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He says something very remarkable.
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I'm surprised.
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I'm only going to mention it because it's in this letter which higher authorities okayed
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could be made public.
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There's a piece of very sensitive information in there that I'm surprised they've decided
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to make public.
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I'll put it this way.
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When General Flynn was briefed on this.
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So General Flynn, as I've said, he stayed out.
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We didn't bring him in any of the legal stuff or whatever we were doing before the election.
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But since the election, he's kind of emerged as I kind of think of him as my handler these
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days or for us.
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It's kind of well, it's like playing sandlot basketball and having Michael Jordan show
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up to be your coach.
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It's great.
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So when we have this information, we can bypass all the three letter agencies who hate me
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now anyway and get it to Flynn.
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And he knows the right people for it to go to.
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It bypasses all the bullshit.
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He turned white when he heard this information and the information that came from this Venezuelan
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general in prison is that in 2015, we invited the Russians in.
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You, there are undersea cables.
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I ask Darius to put up, Daria, I sent you some maps.
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There are these maps of undersea cables of Latin America.
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And you can see that the undersea cables, which carry all the telecoms, come up the
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coast and they touch each country.
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They touch Venezuela.
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In that port on that island, they brought the Russians in and they tapped in since 2015.
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That means the Russians have been in our military since 2015 worldwide.
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My understanding is once they've broken in one place, they get access to the whole network.
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It's like its own internet.
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I don't think that's how that works.
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Real shade at Daria there though.
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He is a blatant disrespect.
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Darius.
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You just can't call people handlers when you're on shows like this.
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It's loaded.
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You can't do that here.
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No good.
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So in his letter, Carvajal says, quote, I was present when Russian intelligence came
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to Caracas to propose to Hugo Chavez the tapping of submarine internet cables that connect
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most of South America and the Caribbean islands with the United States for the purpose of
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penetrating United States government communications.
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In 2015, I warned Maduro that allowing Russian intelligence to build and run a secret listening
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post on La Orchilla Island would one day invite American bombs.
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He ignored me.
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This isn't a revelation and it wouldn't take someone with an intelligence background to
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understand what the guy's saying.
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Yeah.
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You can find conversations online going back to at least 2018 about Russia setting up on
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that Island, Russia and Venezuela are allies.
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This isn't.
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Yeah.
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This isn't.
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No, it makes sense.
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Yeah.
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And it doesn't illustrate that they've been in all of our comms forever.
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I imagine General Flynn turns white every time Patrick Byrne comes near him.
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Like sting, like Lord of the Rings level of he just like lights up and goes, I got to
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get out of here.
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Oh, I thought you guys coming around the corner for a wrestler.
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Stay now.
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No, no, no, no.
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Like the sword point of order.
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Short.
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You started, you had a point of order earlier.
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I'd like to have my own.
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Mike Flynn is already white.
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There's no way around it.
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That is true.
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That is true.
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So they're talking about some real serious stuff.
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Yeah.
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They've cracked the case.
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The deep state is done for.
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You can go home.
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Patrick Byrne's got these tapes somewhere safe.
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He's crazy.
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They can't be exploited.
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And this is definitely game over for the globalists.
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When he told me about those tapes, my first thought was, I hope they're safe.
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But thankfully he said, don't worry.
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They're safe.
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So it worked out well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I can't wait until the world is safe.
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Oh, I'm so excited.
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So this is all pretty heavy stuff, but that doesn't mean that they don't have
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time to riff a little bit.
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Sure.
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And so here's some high level riffing.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Patrick, how many people follow you on X?
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How they find your work?
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Follow me, Patrick Byrne, at Patrick Byrne on X.
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Or you can follow me on Locals.
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I'm starting to come on and be a regular with you, Alex.
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I like breaking you and Emerald.
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You'd have Emerald Robinson on someday if you guys aren't here.
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Yeah, we had her on last week.
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We love her.
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She's a great researcher.
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She's hard to look at too.
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Yeah.
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Boy, she's really glammed up in the last few days.
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I've noticed too.
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I'm being sarcastic anyways.
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Yeah.
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She's a married woman.
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Let's not.
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Yeah.
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No, she's super smart.
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Super awesome.
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I love Emerald.
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Jeez.
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Hey, this is national.
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Yep.
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Let's go to break.
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Hey, Mike Lindell running for governor of Minnesota.
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Really?
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Good, good, good.
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Turk, Turk, Muhammad, John.
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We'll see if he can.
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We'll call it the crusade.
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He should lead the crusade.
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Like we're a crusader outfit.
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Who is Turk, Turk, Muhammad, Jihad.
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Is that an actual person?
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That's Ilhan Omar.
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That's the name of Ilhan Omar's dildo.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm going to stop.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm out of control.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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Alex is 51 years old.
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Yeah.
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Woof.
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It's just, it's not electric.
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Um, there's nothing happening here in terms of chemistry.
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I think Alex hates this dude, but he recognizes that he has
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a big audience and he's pachanicky.
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Yeah.
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He does have some pachanic vibes to him.
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Yeah.
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He has, he has the goods if he wants to do it.
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Alex's humor seems like it only exists whenever he is with like three other dudes, specifically
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dudes who are already comfortable with where they know he's going to go.
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Because every time he starts thinking that something's funny, he catches himself, remembers
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that other people are watching him and he's actually a weird pervert.
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So that makes him feel uncomfortable.
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And then he's like, I need to prove that I'm not a weird pervert.
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So I'll act like a weird pervert and go,
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He could have saved the entire thing too by just like, uh, whenever Patrick Byrne starts
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saying like, ah, she's really glammed up over the last few days.
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All Alex would have had to do recognizing that this riff train is off the tracks.
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We're going bad places.
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Yeah.
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There's no saving this.
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Don't say, oh, I'm being sarcastic.
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That doesn't help.
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All he had to do was say, bam.
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Dismount.
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No, because it's Emeril.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He could just make an Emeril Lagasse joke.
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Boom.
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Moving on.
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As if you're, this guy is working with Emeril.
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You bet.
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That would be funny.
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Done.
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We could move along.
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If it wasn't funny, at least it would happen and be non-offensive.
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Patrick might be confused, but he seems always already confused.
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Yeah.
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That is a confused man.
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This world confuses Patrick Byrne beyond anything I think I can understand.
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Yeah.
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I just wish, I wish for a little more smoothness and humor.
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That's my new year's wish.
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It is, it is so strange because it's like, like the humor is objectify woman.
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Remember that I'm not supposed to objectify woman in public because it's okay in private.
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Next, apologize uncomfortably.
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Got to fix that.
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Can't be weak by apologizing uncomfortably.
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So then I have to take it back somehow.
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Then he winds up being inappropriate and objectifying women again.
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Right.
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Man.
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And what he needs to do is kick it up a notch.
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Just kick it up a bam.
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Bam.
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That's all he needs to do.
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That's all he needs to do.
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It's that easy.
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It literally humor is that easy.
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Use fewer words and yell.
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So the CIA has been stopping Patrick from talking to this Venezuelan guy.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or maybe his lawyer.
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Yeah.
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By the way, a part of this story that when I finished the letter, I'm going to tell you
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how the CIA has been blocking like crazy anyone.
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We had to really go by hook or crook to get access to him in the prison.
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Yeah.
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At Rikers Island, you got this information.
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Yeah.
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So I was actually ready to pay for him.
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I was ready to give him my lawyer, Stephanie, and she wanted to take his case and the government
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got in the way.
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So we actually got somebody in as a paralegal who has spent weeks debriefing him and recording
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and all this, all this getting written and signed by him.
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But he, but this was him.
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He wanted to come clean.
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Let's go to part two and part three, because it'll shock your viewers even more.
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When Patrick said this, I thought that maybe this paralegal was the lawyer who had sent
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the letter to the Dallas Express.
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Yeah.
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But that's a guy named Robert Feitel and he is no paralegal.
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He has his own firm and he boasts 22 years experience in complex international cases.
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If he's Carvajal's lawyer, then I could see a world where he's trying to stop Patrick
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from talking to his client.
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Absolutely.
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There is no need for the CIA to be involved here.
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I think that you would want to keep this ding dong away from your guy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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With like, I don't know, armed guards.
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Whoever is keeping that one Irish guy away from the school is qualified to keep Patrick
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Byrne away from this guy, you know?
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Like you just got to get him out of a prison.
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Yeah.
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I think Patrick Byrne would be less assertive with like physically than the Irish guy.
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Man, Rikers being a guy who's like, I'm doing 20 years for marijuana possession in 1990
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and my cellmate is the former defense intelligence guy for Nicholas Maduro.
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What are you going to do?
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Well, I mean, that's probably not going to happen because most of the people in Rikers
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haven't been charged and it's just pretrial holding.
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That's right.
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It's even more illegal and unconstitutional than what you even imagined.
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Yeah.
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So someone from the 90s who's still there.
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They're having a real bad time.
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If they've been convicted, they're probably not there.
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That's a good point.
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It's just illegal holding and abuse and shit.
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So Patrick, he's got a guy who has interviewed this Hugo fellow.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And it turns out that the guy who's interviewing him, Hugo tried to kill him like five times.
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Wow.
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And they laugh.
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Yeah, you laugh.
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Yeah, come on.
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It's all part of the game.
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Oddly enough, the man that we had in prison interviewing him,
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Hugo Carvajal tried to kill five times.
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So our man sat down with Hugo Carvajal and said, General Carvajal, you know, I know you
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tried to kill me five times.
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Yeah.
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And then they got along.
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They've been spending months together debriefing in this prison cell.
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Is that so?
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So this is a major victory you've had, which is crazy.
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Meanwhile, you have, as normal, the CIA trying to block it.
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Is this the paralegal?
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Like, I think so.
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Why did Hugo try to kill that paralegal five times?
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So earlier in the interview, Patrick says that Hugo is being held at Rikers Island,
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which is presumably where these conversations would have taken place.
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They would have to.
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Problem is, Hugo wasn't at Rikers.
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Ooh.
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An international criminal who is extradited back to the United States is going to be held
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in the federal system.
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So Hugo has been at the Metropolitan Detention Center in New York awaiting sentences.
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That makes sense.
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A couple months back, there was a photo going around of Luigi Mangione posing in jail with
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Hugo, and they're both at MDC.
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Right.
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This is a pretty big detail to get wrong, so I just want to play you, you know, in that
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last clip, Alex said Rikers, but just to be clear that this is also what Patrick is saying.
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That was grand.
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That was our Biden to make sure he stayed quiet.
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Yeah, and kept completely isolated.
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Well, he's actually, oddly enough, he's in Rikers Island now.
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His cellmate is P. Diddy, believe it or not.
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So the most likely explanation here is that Patrick just has his prisons wrong, because
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Diddy was also held at MDC.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't know if they were ever cellmates, but in December, which is when this episode
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was happening, Diddy couldn't have been bunking with Hugo because he was transferred to a
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prison in Texas in October.
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Right.
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Patrick is one of these interesting types of characters in Info Wars World, because
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I sincerely can't tell if he's completely crazy or not.
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Yeah.
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But either way, he's full of whimsy, and Alex clearly hates talking to him, which I enjoy
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the dynamic.
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But I would not be totally surprised if none of this happened.
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Yeah.
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And Patrick has just imagined all of it.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they've been interviewing a guy who says he's that guy in Rikers.
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Or someone is telling Patrick that he's interviewing someone in Rikers.
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Totally.
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Patrick may be paying a guy $50,000 a visit to stay home and pretend that he's talking
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to this guy.
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Yeah.
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And it would be worth it.
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Any possibility is on the table.
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Patrick is fucking nuts.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So more of him.
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I agree with the White House.
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Yeah.
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More of him.
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Yeah, man.
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They just don't know how to do true crazy.
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And then when you see true crazy, you're like, ah, that's what you guys should be.
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It makes Alex look so much like a poser whenever you see somebody who's truly fucking nuts.
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This dude was fucking a Russian spy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's out of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's crazy.
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No fucking governor on this guy.
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No.
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So we have one last clip, and I think it's Alex saying too much about what he believes
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Trump's plan is for the world.
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I was about to say, what do you make of Russia and China in the last 10 days cutting Venezuela
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loose?
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They cut day.
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It was really this Monday.
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Trump said, fine.
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You want to stand with him?
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Fine with him.
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We'll start World War Three with you too.
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I mean, Putin made a very direct threat that basically he'd start.
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He defend Venezuela to the point of World War Three.
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I forgot how he said it, but that was and Trump answered in kind.
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And what do you know?
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They bluffed and they backed out.
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And now, as of Monday, they're sending.
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They sent 150.
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Yeah, but that's part of the deal.
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Trump's going with the Russia deal.
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But it's like, that's our hemisphere.
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That's your hemisphere.
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Yeah.
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Oh, cool.
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That sucks.
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I mean, I guess to a certain extent, I also don't care about hemispheres because what
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are we doing here?
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Right.
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These two people can't divide up hemispheres even if they talk shit about it.
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No.
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No.
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And because it's based on lines on the map, there's parts of Africa that are in the western
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hemisphere and parts of Europe even.
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Yeah.
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So what are you going to do?
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Where is the dividing line?
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This is stupid.
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Is everybody getting their own continent?
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I think Alex imagines that we get North America, South America, Central America, Central America.
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Maybe give us the poles.
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You want us to have Poland?
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No.
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The North and South.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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That's banter right there.
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That's how we do it.
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But yeah, Russia gets Asia, Africa, Oceania.
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Right.
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Nobody's going to obviously be bothered by that.
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No.
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Right.
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And then we build up armies and then you roll dice.
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Right.
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And then Irkutsk falls.
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And then we get South America because South America will be like, well, we can't wait
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to be part of North America.
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We're already part of the American Union.
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We're already one.
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Bush merged us with Vincente Fox.
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It's such that childish...
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Oh, we also get Greenland.
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It's the fucking Star Wars logic of like, look, if we have all the territory, we won.
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What are you going to do with it?
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What is your bureaucratic plan?
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That's true.
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But I also love the idea that Alex's whole career has been like this fucking paranoid
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fantasy about a one world government.
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And now he's like, two's fine.
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One half world government.
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Yeah, maybe two.
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Two half world governments.
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Two's good.
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That's enough.
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That's enough sovereignty.
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That's enough.
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Who cares?
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Who needs more than a full continent?
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That's cool.
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Yeah, it's cool.
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Yep.
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He's a piece of shit and his ideas do not work internally.
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Nope.
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Wildly inconsistent.
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Yep.
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But hey, Patrick Byrne was kind of fun.
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He should really read and learn from Ender's Game.
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Nah, he figured it out.
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Not fair enough.
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He knows he just needed to see the first half.
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I don't think themes exist for him.
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I think the plot is the theme.
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Yep.
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Right?
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He doesn't have the concept of, like, larger or thought provoking or conflict to being...
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But yeah.
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He's incapable of understanding things on deeper levels.
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And that's what makes him interesting and also boring as shit.
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Yep.
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Anyway, we'll be back to see how his path deteriorates even further as December...
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It's a little home December.
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It is a long December.
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And there's reason to believe that...
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I wish he was eating cheese.
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I wish I was eating cheese.
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I don't have to stop.
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The advent calendar ended.
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I want to...
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If I get another advent calendar, I want it to be something different.
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It can't always be cheese.
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Listen, Jesus wasn't actually born on the 25th.
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We can just have an advent calendar for 24 days from any day.
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No, I'm totally with you on that.
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It just can't be cheese again.
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Fair enough.
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Do you want to know something?
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What?
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I already ordered another one.
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I bet you did.
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Next episode, we're going to have another advent calendar.
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I've revealed my tricks like a magician.
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Bastard.
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So anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefact.com.
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Yep, we're back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
