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arrives by now.
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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.
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Riddleware, riddleware, riddleware.
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I need, I need money.
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Riddleware, riddleware, riddleware.
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Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it. Andy and, Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledgefight.com. I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, where's about the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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What date is it?
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It is, I actually don't know, is it the 30th? How many days are they?
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29th.
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29th? December 29th.
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Right.
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All right, well that means that it's my bright spot first.
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You've learned.
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How about that? It only took us till December 31st.
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Yep, and now we're gonna flip it back to normal.
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My bright spot is the reason that we are recording this early on Monday instead of Sunday. I spent
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the weekend with my family and had a lovely post-Christmas celebration kind of thing.
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Nice.
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It was great, we all got along fine.
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Almost died in the fog.
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Here's a, well, the way home, yeah, the other bright spot is surviving it.
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Sure.
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On the right back, apparently 80 was destroyed by a freezing cold winter hurricane thing,
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which covered in fog and rain and all that stuff, and we barely escaped it,
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barely white-knuckled our way home, got our pups and made it into Chicago, and we're fine.
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It was great, other than being terrifying, right?
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Yeah.
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It was like, you know, it's the edge of your seat. It was a roller coaster ride.
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Yeah, it's like a boss battle that you finish with a sliver of life left.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like, I did it. I don't know how or why.
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Now I gotta go healing potion my ass.
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Right, right, right. I'm gonna go rest at the campsite.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's the plan there.
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Well, it's nice. I'm glad you had a nice little trip.
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It was wonderful.
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Sweet.
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Absolutely. And how about yourself? What day is it?
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It is the same day.
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Oh, okay.
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And because of that, we are still in December, and I'm celebrating cheese,
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even though the advent calendar ended on the 24th.
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Right.
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And since we're so close to the new year, I got a special cheese for the new year.
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I wake up at like 3 a.m.
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God wakes me up and tells me something.
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And then he says, it's, you know, time to get cheesy.
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And I say, yes.
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God gives you the options.
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Cheddar cheese, please.
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Cheese, please.
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Pepper jack cheese, please.
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Swiss cheese.
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Give me cheese.
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Give me death.
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Thank you to Garen for that one.
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That one was solid.
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That's fantastic.
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That was great.
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Yep.
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So today I've got a special...
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I would say that this is new year's themed a little bit.
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This is champagne cheese.
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Champagne cheddar.
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Okay.
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Is it from the Champagne region of France or is it just named Champagne cheese?
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Now, here's the thing.
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What is the thing?
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It says it's imported from England.
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But I've got red flags even on that.
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I'm not sure that that's true.
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But if it is, then it's not champagne.
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This should be...
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Sparkling cheese?
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Sparkling cheese.
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Yes.
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So I'm going to open this up and give it a try and Jordan's going to vamp.
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Wonderful.
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Here's the thing about vamping today is I'm going to use this time instead to tell everybody
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my niece, the second child of my brother, has finally smiled at me and she even said a word
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to me.
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She said hello.
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She also screamed at me a couple of times and she made eye contact.
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This little girl has made eye contact with everybody else in my family up until yesterday.
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It was me alone who had nothing, who had no relationship with her.
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And so it was a bright shining thing that happened to me.
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While at the same time also she's three years old.
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So I don't know if any of this is going to last.
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Tomorrow could be.
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She's forgotten my name entirely, but I won one.
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And so I'm going to take it as a victory and call it a day.
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I raise my cheese to you, sir.
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Yes, absolutely.
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A champagne cheese clink.
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Yeah, that's great.
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I don't know.
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I don't taste champagne in there at all.
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The whiskey cheddar definitely had more of a whiskey to it.
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This is not...
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I don't know.
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It's just a regular cheddar that they're trying to make celebratory.
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No, it tastes probably fine.
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I will always eat a cheddar.
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You'll always eat a cheddar.
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Yeah.
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Keep it sharp.
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I'm in.
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What is the sharpness on cheddar actually mean?
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There's extra sharp cheddar, there's sharp cheddar.
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I don't know what that means though.
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I don't eat cheese.
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You know what?
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I don't either, but I do.
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Hey, you were looking at me like I'm crazy and then...
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No, I was looking at you like that because I was worried.
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But you don't know either.
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It's a tartness.
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There's kind of like a sour-y...
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It's a more heightened...
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One of the reasons I struggle with answering this question is sharp feels like so right.
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It's the right word.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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See, that's the thing.
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I don't like cheese on the whole.
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So I don't understand your cheese lingo.
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You know, with spiciness, you've got the Scoville units.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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You can kind of discuss it in that.
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I don't know if there is the equivalent for sharp.
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Is there a Cheezle unit?
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There might be.
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I just don't know.
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But yeah, I like really sharp.
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I like a sharp cheddar.
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You like a kick?
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All right.
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Yeah.
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I'll take it.
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So this cheese is a little bit of a dud.
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That is good because I have a second bright spot.
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Oh yeah?
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And that is that we could not end the year off without another episode of MacGyver.
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Ooh!
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Back on my bullshit.
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All right.
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First question.
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Smooches, no smooches.
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This episode is decidedly not about kissing.
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Okay.
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No kissing.
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No smooching.
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No.
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You know what I should have done when I opened the cheese and vamped?
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You should have tried to guess what the plot of this MacGyver episode was.
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I mean, here's the problem.
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Once you have established that already we could just be mad at ants, that leaves everything open.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was an episode where it's like,
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is that actually an alien stealth move?
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And then at the end they just kind of disappear and you're like, could be.
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So this episode is about a guy who's going to testify against his brother who runs a drug
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operation, a mafia thing.
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Snitch!
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Yeah, but he has a, you know, he's doing it because a kid that he works with got hot shot
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and he died from the drugs.
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Man, that's rough.
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Hard to make that decision to snitch or not to snitch there is difficult.
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I think that the way that this episode plays out, snitch is the right option.
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Justice snitch.
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The brother sucks.
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Right.
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Fair enough.
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So he goes over to MacGyver's house to meet up with the federal marshals.
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So now we know where MacGyver lives.
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He has an apartment in California, which he, I swear to God, he lived at a planetarium
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in the first episode.
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This makes no sense.
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So he goes over there to meet up with a guy.
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Yeah.
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He ends up getting kidnapped while MacGyver's getting him coffee.
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MacGyver's got to go save him and return him to the marshals.
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But he wants to go talk to his mom for the last time.
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His mom's in the hospital.
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And so he's like, I got to go talk to my mom.
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And the marshals are like, no, your brother will be there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that would be how it works.
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Yeah.
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And so he's like, MacGyver, go talk to my mom.
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Oh my God.
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So MacGyver has to go talk to his mom.
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Right.
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He delivers this message from her son.
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Sure.
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And she's like, I'm dying.
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Naturally.
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I know I'm dying.
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Did he go through the window?
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Did he have to sneak it in there or just front door?
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MacGyver walked in the front door and is having a great time with her.
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I was really thinking he would have to climb in through the window of some sort.
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It seems like they hit it off to the point where later he tells the guy,
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give your mom a kiss for me.
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So maybe there is some smooching.
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So there is a smooch there.
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Yeah.
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No romantic smooch.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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But there is.
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So yeah, MacGyver's talking to her.
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She's like, I'm dying.
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I know it.
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I want to talk to my son one last time.
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Can you bring him here?
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No.
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So MacGyver's like, I got to bring the kid here.
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No.
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Right.
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Right.
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So he goes to the marshals and he's like, I got to get this message to the witness.
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His mom wants to talk to him.
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And the marshal's like, no.
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Of course not.
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What are we doing here?
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So MacGyver has to kidnap him.
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He kidnaps him from federal custody to get him to the hospital to say goodbye to his mom.
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Sure.
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But the other brother has taken the mom out of the hospital and put her in his fortress of a home.
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So now MacGyver, with the witness, has to break into the mob guy's house in order for the guy
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to say goodbye to his mom, which everyone knows is a trap.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's the most obvious trap there's ever been.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So the guy's got to get in there to say goodbye to his mom, and then MacGyver's got to break him
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out.
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Right.
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What excitement.
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I say this.
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I struggle with plots that I feel are entirely self-inflicted.
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You know?
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Like that's one of those things where if I watch a plot and I go, you guys should just not be doing
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this and it would be fine.
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That's a bummer.
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I tend to turn it off.
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I was riveted.
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I thought it was fantastic because the stakes of it are so like, I just want to say goodbye to my
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mom.
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Right.
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I want to do the right thing in terms of testifying against my brother.
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Sure.
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But I got to say goodbye to my mom.
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There is a higher justice.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And everything is so fucking stupid.
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Like the way that MacGyver does all this stuff is, you know, it's parodied for a reason.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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How does he...
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Are we at paperclip level?
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Because I feel like solving things purely via paperclip wasn't until later on.
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No, he has to hack or hotwire a car using just a paperclip in this.
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Of course.
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But he also clears out a federal courthouse using dry ice, pop rocks, and soda in the
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air vents, which is great.
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I mean, I do like that he solves problems with creativity.
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Yes.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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That is the best part.
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And I think that there's a lot of like, one of the unsung pieces of why this show works
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is you're often watching him solve problems and he's silent and you're like, what the
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fuck is he doing?
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Yeah.
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And then it all pays off together.
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You know, like that kind of like he builds these...
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Contraptions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you're having fun watching him do it.
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You know, like, how's that going to do anything?
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Ah.
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In a way, it's like, in a way MacGyver is the precursor to Mythbusters.
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It's the reason it's necessary.
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Those guys wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for Mythbusters.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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So one other thing, there's no kissing, but we did learn something about who this guy
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is.
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Okay.
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And the MacGyver is.
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Right.
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His backstory.
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Present story.
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Right.
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Okay.
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The Marshal is telling the witness, you're going to testify, we're going to have you
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at a safe house during the trial, and then MacGyver takes over and he'll give you a new
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identity.
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So what?
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So MacGyver is working with the federal government in a capacity that he's able to make people
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disappear and give them new identity.
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Oh my God.
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So it might be that his job is that he's a witness protection guy.
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Yeah.
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But then I don't know why he's doing the ant thing.
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I mean, I appreciate a jack of all trades.
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My problem here is I wonder what his LLC is like.
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How does his contracting work?
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Because we're talking about sums of money from the government and also from overseas,
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presumably.
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Yeah.
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So I would not want to try and itemize that.
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And then you're talking about travel expenses purely.
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Is he running game?
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Is he having business lunches?
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You know what I'm saying?
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What's this man up to?
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He's trying to expense the coffee.
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Exactly.
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Can you trust MacGyver with your corporate?
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One last thought that I had.
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Yeah.
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I love this world so much because there's clarity.
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If you are a bad guy in this world and you see MacGyver, give up.
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It's awesome.
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He doesn't hate you, but you're not going to win.
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It's so clear.
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Everything's so clear.
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Everyone's stupid if they think that they're going to get one over on MacGyver.
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Okay.
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Let me ask you this question.
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I'll ask you one question about MacGyver.
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All right.
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Maybe we'll do this every time.
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Maybe I get one question about MacGyver every episode.
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I'll allow two.
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Okay.
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When we're dealing with MacGyver, as compared to a CSI or a like,
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I'm in the FBI show, you know, one of those.
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And there's always that moment in the FBI where it's like,
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I'm all about this.
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We got to get that guy.
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Is MacGyver more detached?
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Like, I'm out here just trying to do my job, buddy.
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No.
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He's not just trying to do his job.
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He seems like he's annoyed a lot of the time, or almost like more interested in the little
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machines and the little tricks that he can do.
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So like, there's a, there's one thing here's what I would say.
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This answers your question and it doesn't.
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Okay.
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The best kind of answer.
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The opening of MacGyver is a bunch of clips from episodes and it ends the intro music
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with him going like, like letting out a sigh of like, uh, like,
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good thing I'm done with that.
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Yeah.
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And that kind of feels like what that feels spiritually.
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Like that's his vibe.
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I just gotta, I just gotta get through this and then I'll be like, all right, now back to
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true crime.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think that there is a feeling like he must have hobbies that you would rather be doing.
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Yeah.
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But his hobbies might just be like improvising devices and stuff.
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All right.
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I like it.
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End of question.
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And compared to all those other shows, like he clearly doesn't act like a cop.
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Yeah.
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Like he does not have any problem breaking into places and stuff.
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So like, he just kind of feels like, Hey, I'm the best.
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No, I was, I'm thinking about this cause I was watching a little bit of Fringe.
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I was rewatching a little bit of Fringe.
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Man, those people just pop out guns all the goddamn time.
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Sure.
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Boom gun.
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Scientists.
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Just all the time there's a gun in everybody's fucking face.
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But to be fair that the lady is a, she's an agent.
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She is an agent.
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Yeah.
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I just feel like everybody's got a gun into your face.
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Yeah.
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John Noble never has guns.
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No, no.
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All the best characters in all of these shows do not use guns.
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Astrid doesn't use guns.
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Nope.
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Not once.
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Yep.
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The cow doesn't use guns.
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The cow does use guns.
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Oh yeah.
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That's true.
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Forgot about that episode.
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That was a weird episode.
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It was a weird episode.
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Utter gun.
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Utter guns.
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Utter gun.
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Yeah.
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So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about December 3rd, 2025 on Alex's show.
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I think we are beginning something that will probably take up the next months of our lives.
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All right.
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There is a trajectory that Alex has set himself on that I think is in a large part a reaction
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to those moments, those big inflection moments that we've been talking about
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and Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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Right.
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I think that these things have set a course and now they're starting to come to fruition.
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Gotcha.
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In Alex's destiny.
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We'll talk a little bit about this episode, but first let's take a little moment to say
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hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, why can't the French count to four?
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They always run into the tree.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Isn't it trois?
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I have no idea.
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Is it a joke?
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I feel like it's supposed to be a joke.
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Right.
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Well, I mean, it's a joke on tree and three, presumably, but in French it's trois.
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Yeah.
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Which is a tree also a trois?
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Well, the cat is up in the trois.
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Next.
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Moving on.
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Hustler Hustlers, the world's only Dirk Pitt podcast would love to hear Dan rap Neil
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Cisarega's song.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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No, we just had our first child and named him Owen Sawyer, which my brother thinks is
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a little too close.
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Also, Alex's voice is surprisingly soothing to fall asleep to for me, not the baby.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to knowledge.
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Fight is our post sex cigarette.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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You're nasty.
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Yeah.
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But thank you.
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Yep.
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Gross.
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Yeah.
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So today we start off on December 3 where Alex is starting off and it is about them boats.
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Okay.
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Them boats.
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All right.
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If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance live from the info wars.com
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studios.
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It's Alex Jones.
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317 days into the return of the Trump administration.
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We are now at the moment of truth.
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If they can take out secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth for following Trump's legal and
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lawful orders, then they will obviously then launch impeachment against Trump for war crimes.
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The UN will pile on.
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We know where this is all going.
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Obama blew up thousands and thousands of people on the seas and in their homes and at weddings.
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Yep.
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And said that they had the executive power.
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You can argue those were war crimes, but what Trump is doing is light years more constitutional.
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This is a bad argument that Alex is making and it's only one he has to make because
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of the horrible bed that he's made for himself to lie in.
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The attacks that Alex is talking about with Obama were awful and he's right to be critical
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of them, but unfortunately now he's gotten himself in a situation where he needs to find
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a way to justify the guys he likes doing the same kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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At the core, what Alex is expressing is that he doesn't really care about killing non-combatants.
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He's neutral at best on whether or not the military should commit war crimes.
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The only relevant variable is whether or not he likes the people doing the war crimes,
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and if he feels personally connected to the power that those people hold.
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If it's Obama doing it, Alex is able to grandstand about how wrong these kinds of attacks are.
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If it's Trump and Hegseth doing it, the attacks are actually very constitutional.
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Here is where this kind of argument lives or dies.
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It's now Alex's responsibility to explain the difference between
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what Obama was doing and what Hegseth is doing.
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What is the critical difference that makes one act of killing civilians you've determined
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are terrorists a war crime, whereas the other one is a legal constitutional act?
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Parentheses are.
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The best I think Alex can do is that they're closer to the United States,
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and I don't think that works.
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Yeah.
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When someone advances contradictory positions and can't explain to you the reason why these
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situations are different and how the circumstances make their position not contradictory,
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you should feel a complete freedom to not take them seriously.
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This isn't the behavior of someone who's actually interested in ideas.
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It's the mark of someone who's trying to justify something they shouldn't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a...
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I mean, after you can have the secret torture memo,
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and it's like, why wouldn't you just do a secret memo for all the
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illegal and unconstitutional shit you want to do?
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Get a constitutional lawyer to make some stuff up and then put it in a box
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and then tell nobody about it, and then you can do whatever you want.
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And I think that that's what Alex would do with this boat.
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Right?
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The boat stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I have not seen any president in my lifetime not commit a war crime.
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None of them have been like, hey, knock it off.
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Well, it feels to me like the constitution and all this stuff exists as kind of
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imaginary technicalities.
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It does.
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And Alex cheers on people trying to get around them when he likes them,
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and insists everyone follow different rules when he doesn't like them.
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Right.
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It feels like the constitution is more like, you just need to put more effort
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into it to break those rules.
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And so most people in the government are a little too lazy to go that far.
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It's just too much work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's no rule that says a horse can't kick a nuke.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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Nobody wrote it down.
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A dog can play fucking basketball, my man.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I saw that.
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I saw that film.
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It's good film.
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It's film.
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It is.
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Make no mistake.
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So the globalists are making their move on Pete Hegseth.
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All right.
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It's all...
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This is just critical.
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And you notice that this week, but tomorrow, they're going to release
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the signal gate stuff from the beginning of the administration,
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where he got set up with the CIA, had others trying to leak stuff out to make
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some of the strikes in the Middle East on the Houthis look badly done or that he's not following intelligence rules.
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So that's all been set.
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And now that's coming out in the next few days.
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South Park produced it weeks ago, but has their special out about Hegseth this week.
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And so here's the big news.
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Let me just announce it.
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There is a live deep state Pentagon coup going right now to remove Hegseth.
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And if they're able to do that, they believe the path is clear.
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The globalists will have control of the Pentagon with who they're trying to replace him with.
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And then they're going to make their move on Trump.
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Alex is trying to paint the picture that the globalists are directing all of this
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attention against Hegseth because they're trying to oust him, when in reality,
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really just feels like Hegseth is getting criticized for bad stuff that he's done.
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The blowing up of boats shit is unacceptable.
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His revealing of military actions in advance on Signal is sloppy and dangerous.
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And Alex is exaggerating his importance to this season of South Park.
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He's a bit player in the whole thing.
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J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel are way more central characters, as is Satan.
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Yeah, well.
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For the people he's invested in supporting, any negative attention they get will be reported
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by Alex as a sign of their virtue.
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And that's a double edged sword.
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On the one hand, it makes his job easier with hand waving away horrible things that his guys do.
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But on the other hand, it limits his ability to engage with reality,
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and it makes him seem really out of touch to anybody who isn't already a fan of his.
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And he needs to stop saying making their move.
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He says that too much.
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What? Okay.
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So they're making their move.
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They oust Hegseth, who can only be ousted, presumably by Trump, ousting him.
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Right.
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So then-
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Maybe Congress.
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Sure.
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Oh, well, let's hope an act of Congress would have an effect these days.
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Then maybe Trump could then override or something.
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Let's hope a lot of stuff, and let's hope it never gets tested.
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Sure.
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So then there's an interim guy that Trump is appointed,
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and then there's an actual guy that Trump has appointed.
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So should Hegseth be ousted, Trump will still be appointing the guy, right?
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Right.
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But maybe congressional approval is needed for that appointment.
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Sure.
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Okay, so the globalist's plan includes somehow influencing Trump
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to then appoint another guy that would oust him?
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Maybe.
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Here's the basic sketch of it.
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Okay.
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The globalists under King Podesta, who is the greatest military planner of all time-
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I feel like that's not true.
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Has come up with the movie Civil War and one battle after another, which Alex has not seen.
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But he has a feeling about.
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It's a pretty good movie.
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And these reveal the battle plan where they're going to create a civil war in the United States.
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Right.
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Now, the only thing that could go wrong is if the military stays loyal to Trump during the Civil War.
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Right.
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They can't have that.
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Right.
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So they need to oust Hegseth because he's loyal to Trump.
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Right.
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Anybody else shaky, dubious loyalty at best.
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Of course, naturally.
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So once they get him out, they can start trying to impeach Trump and in the process,
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launch the Civil War, where the military won't be under Hegseth, who will keep them loyal to Trump.
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Right.
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In the coming movie that Alex hasn't seen.
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I'll say this for this plan.
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Generally speaking, the military doesn't stay on one side in a civil war.
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True.
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They split up.
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Otherwise, you don't really have a civil war.
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You've got one military massacring a bunch of people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's dumb.
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Yeah.
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But it's what Alex has to do.
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No, it's fair.
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This is the way that everything has to be the domino that knocks over everything else.
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Yeah.
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Or else why are we talking about it so much?
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Right.
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Right.
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Why did God direct you to do this episode?
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Right.
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Because if we don't protect Hegseth, then everyone's dead.
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Right.
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Right.
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There's no possible way of being like, hey, if you commit an illegal act, you should be
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just as and you should have to go to a law place.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is like, he totally got this Hegseth story on his own.
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He totally totally has a lot of sources, but also Laura Loomer has been tweeting.
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Oh, and we've got a lot of people in the Pentagon that are obviously giving us information.
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I'll leave it at that.
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And so I was already planning to come on air today and say they're launching their full
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coup against Hegseth and explaining it.
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Then Laura Loomer and say what you want about Laura.
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She's really smart.
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Does a lot of great investigative reporting.
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I get mad at her because she in fights and loves drama, queening and stuff, which she
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thinks she's targeting bad people.
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I think it's overall destructive.
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You may lose the house now because MTG is leaving.
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But whatever, she's still a good person and means well.
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And when she says she has the sources, she does, because when I read this, it's all dead
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on.
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And I'm talking to her right now.
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She's trying to get to a place where she has good Internet.
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She can come on.
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I may just get her on via phone.
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I was just talking to her five minutes ago.
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Exclusive Secretary of the Army's office plotting a coup at the Pentagon to remove
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Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and replace him with the deep staters.
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It's a long post on X.
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It's dead on.
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I don't just believe her sources, and she's been proven to be dead on.
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I already have most of this reverse engineered.
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Oh, yeah, you figured it all out.
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Most of it.
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It's also the secretary of the Army is someone who was appointed by Trump with college with
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J.D. Vance.
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Well, I don't know.
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I don't know where the I don't know, man.
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It is really hard to not take responsibility when there's literally nobody else there.
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Yeah, it's really hard to do.
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You kind of start blaming each other, start blaming each other, find people who are on
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the edges, right?
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Maybe like the secretary of law.
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It is so funny how much these people just need there to be a solid and competent Democratic
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Party.
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Otherwise, they just hate each other because they're a bunch of idiots.
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It's true.
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Yeah, it seems pretty obvious now.
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So I think that Alex totally reverse engineered all this.
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He's not just woken up and seen a tweet from Laura Loomer and decided, well, we're going
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to run with this.
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Very, very it's plausible and believable and cool.
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Yeah.
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And also, Alex has his own reporters at the White House, like Brianna Morello is over
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there at the White House.
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She's talking to the Pentagon right now.
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No, the Pentagon today has all these reporters with their chief accountant.
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Our own Brianna Morello is in three hour meetings right now with the head accountant of the
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Pentagon with total transparency about where the tens of trillions missing is.
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And Rumsfeld two days before 9-11 gave a press conference about 2.2 trillion missing.
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And then 9-11 happened.
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Now it's over what, 15 trillion or something?
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Some numbers are 20 trillion.
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I mean, our reporter is there right now, right now.
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In the Pentagon meeting on this, you want reform, you want transparency, you got it
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with EXAF.
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It's interesting that Alex is saying this because just a week or two after this episode
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was recorded, news broke that the Pentagon had failed its eighth straight audit.
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To explain what this means, I'll read to you from an article on military.com.
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Quote, auditors examine whether systems accurately track spending, assets, liabilities, and
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inventory.
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That includes everything from payroll to contracts to facilities, vehicles, aircraft, ships,
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and spare parts.
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The process also evaluates whether internal controls are strong enough to prevent errors
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and ensure reliable reporting.
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A clean audit opinion would signal that the Pentagon can consistently account for its
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resources and spending.
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Failing the audit means auditors identified material weaknesses that prevent them from
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reaching that conclusion.
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Alex is trying to present this image that HEGSETH is running the Pentagon as some kind
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of fully transparent operation, but it's really as bad or worse than ever.
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This is an administration that will happily associate with an Infowars reporter, though,
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so that's going to affect the kind of coverage that Alex gives them, which is pathetic.
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Wasn't that one of the first big things that people talk about Sanders doing on the national
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level, is working with some other Republican guy to actually audit the Pentagon or the
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military?
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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Man, do you know how it went?
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Not good.
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No.
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There's just stuff that can't ever be done in the world that we've created for ourselves.
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No.
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Somebody just described the military as like a big open money pit, and they just keep throwing
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money in there.
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Nobody knows how much.
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Nobody knows where it goes.
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Right.
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It's just in there.
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And you know what?
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You not wanting to throw money in there makes me think that you don't like America.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You want us to be vulnerable.
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And let me tell you something, if you don't throw money in there, it turns out that thing
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eats people.
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It eats people with guns.
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Yeah.
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I have interesting feelings about this, I guess, that I don't think Hegseth is necessarily
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to blame for the Pentagon failing an audit.
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Kind of, yeah.
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He's to blame for not demanding that they pass it.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But it's an institutional rot kind of problem that we've just all gotten complacent about.
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Right.
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If it were possible for him to even...
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Should he be like, I demand we pass this audit.
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If it were possible, it probably would have happened in the past 50 years at least once.
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Maybe.
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And it's theoretically possible.
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It is theoretically possible.
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But I don't know enough to know what would have to go into...
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How many secret projects would we have to put on...
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I mean, right?
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No, the amount of money they get is crazy enough as it is.
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We don't want to find out actually how much money they get.
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Jesus.
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Yeah, maybe we would, but that's a band-aid coming off kind of moment.
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Well, you got to give them all that stuff, otherwise people will eat.
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Or those boats won't sink.
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So Alex plays a clip of Trump discussing Hegseth sinking these boats.
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Right.
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And how he's fine with it.
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Of course.
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So let's go to a clip from yesterday where Trump does back Hegseth.
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Well, you better back him.
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You told him to do it.
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I looked at the law, the Constitution, the president set by Jefferson.
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100% you have that.
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But now it's a perception battle.
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So you better keep backing them.
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Here's the clip.
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As far as the attack is concerned, I didn't...
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I still haven't gotten a lot of information because I rely on Pete.
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How is that possible?
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It was an attack.
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It wasn't one strike, two strikes, three strikes.
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Somebody asked me a question about the second strike.
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I didn't know about the second strike.
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I didn't know anything about people.
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I wasn't involved.
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I knew they took out a boat, but I would say this.
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They had a strike.
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I hear the gentleman that was in charge of that is extraordinary.
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He's an extraordinary person.
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Let Pete speak about him.
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But Pete was satisfied.
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Pete didn't know about second attack having to do with two people.
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And I guess Pete would have to speak to it.
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I can say this.
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I want those boats taken out.
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So you may notice that Trump brought up something about a second strike,
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which isn't a detail of the story that Alex has talked about yet.
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This is in reference to an attack on a boat that Hegseth carried out,
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which resulted in a capsized boat and two survivors trying to cling to that wreckage.
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Our forces fired on them again, which killed the remaining people.
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Blagh!
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Even if you believe that these people were narco-terrorists who were captaining boats
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full of drugs to the United States in order to kill Americans,
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there doesn't seem to be a justification to kill the survivors of the first attack.
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There's no reason they couldn't have just been apprehended at that point
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and made to stand trial for whatever offenses they were accused of.
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So firing on them again really just feels like state murder,
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which Alex is notorious for pretending to be opposed to.
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It's just, it doesn't...
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You really struggle to see the point.
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That is the type of shit...
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It should be undeniable now.
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It should be undeniable.
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No one should be able to deny it.
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Nobody should have a conversation about it.
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Because in a movie, like fucking, I don't know, Red Dawn or some shit,
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one of the most obvious ways that you make the bad guy appear the bad guy
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is they shoot defenseless people to death.
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Right.
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That's us?
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Yeah, and just so we're clear, let's make sure of all the details of what happened.
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Sure.
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But let's not kid ourselves.
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Yeah.
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If you shoot at people who are in the water or drowning, you are evil.
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I don't know how to be more the bad guy.
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Yeah.
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It's over the top.
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In movies you go, Jesus, no one would behave like that.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad.
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Well, there we go.
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So Pete Hegseth, his whole thing is like, I didn't see it.
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He signed off on the first attack and then he went about his business
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and he missed the later stuff.
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I watched that first strike live.
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As you can imagine, at the Department of War, we got a lot of things to do.
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So I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever,
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where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs.
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So I moved on to my next meeting.
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A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander had made the,
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which he had the complete authority to do.
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And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision
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to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat.
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He sunk the boat, sunk the boat and eliminated the threat.
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And he was the right call.
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We have his back and the American people are safer because narco terrorists know
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you can't bring drugs through the water and eventually on land if necessary
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to the American people.
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We will eliminate that threat and we're proud to do it.
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This story is obviously a bunch of bullshit, but I want to ignore that for a second
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just to be, bring into really sharp focus that listening to this explanation is insane.
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Pete Hegseth seems to be justifying the use of the military to kill people
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based solely on their involvement in drug trafficking.
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Are we in a very literal international war on drugs now?
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Like this feels like an entirely unacceptable justification for what happened,
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even if you have a sincere desire to have less drugs enter the country.
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I can't come up with a way to say this strongly enough, that it's pathetic for
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Alex to support this kind of shit now.
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Like we understood that the war on drugs was a pretext for...
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Alex Fucking over non-white people.
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Pete Sure.
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Alex Yeah.
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Pete And police to get away with a lot more...
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Alex Fucking over non-white people.
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Pete Yeah, largely.
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Alex Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Pete Largely, but as a subsidiary benefit of more tickets.
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Alex Right, right, right, right.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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Pete There's a financial side to it too.
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Alex We all understood that it was nonsense
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and it wasn't dealing with the issues that drugs represent.
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Pete Right.
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Alex And to imagine that we are now doing this
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internationally is so exhausting.
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Pete It...
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My first response to both of these assholes is exactly what happened when we were listening
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to those fucking depositions and Rob Dew is like, I don't know about this.
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You're not allowed to not know.
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Pete Yeah.
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Even if you personally don't know or weren't there, you are representing the knowing of this.
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Pete Yeah, you have, you're the Department of Defense,
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who's now renamed himself the Department of War.
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Alex Yeah.
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Pete You have an obligation.
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If not you, then no one.
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Alex No, and it's still your fault.
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Pete Yeah.
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Alex That's the whole point of that the system exists
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to hold the top accountable.
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Not so both the top and the bottom could go, it's not really our fault.
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Pete Right.
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And the ideal situation is that when there are problems in the lower areas of command,
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let's say, the higher area of command takes responsibility, but solves those problems.
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Pete Right.
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Pete Does not skirt responsibility, doesn't say like,
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hey, everything is actually cool.
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Pete Yep.
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Pete You say like, no, look, there's a problem here.
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We're gonna, we're gonna address this.
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Yep.
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Somebody's I mean, at the end of the day, I, it used to be, it felt like everybody understood
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sometimes heads roll. And that's what keeps the people quiet.
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Pete Mm hmm.
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Pete You know, you let you make some asshole resign for shit. That's not his fault. But
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everybody goes, see, they did something, you know, it doesn't even feel like they bother
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with that shit anymore. They're just like, yeah, murder people, whatever.
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Pete Well, and it comes to what Alex is expressing
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with his hexeth conspiracies. It's like, we must defend hexeth. Because if we don't,
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then the implication of him getting in trouble means that Trump should get in trouble.
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Pete Yep.
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Pete And hexeth is defending everybody beneath
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him because he knows if I don't, then it implicates me and that like, yep. And no one will take
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responsibility at any point because of the implications of it.
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Pete Yep.
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Pete And it's just bad people. Yes. But Alex has a defense of hexeth.
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Pete Okay.
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Pete And it sucks.
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Pete I've studied the military, never been in it,
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but I've studied it from the top to the bottom. I share military very well.
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But again, hexeth didn't do what they said he did. If he did it, it's legal and lawful.
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Obviously, they're trying to tell you how it works. You keep bombing it until it's
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totally destroyed. Everybody's dead. That's the mission. Kill people, break things.
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But they know the public doesn't understand this in general. So they're playing these games
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like everything else they do over and over and over again to do what? To say,
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hexeth is illegitimate. Trump's illegitimate. Anybody that backs him is illegitimate.
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This position that Alex is putting forward cannot be reconciled with his political beliefs when
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Obama and Bush were in office. His mentality is in direct opposition with his previous philosophy
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about war, and it's hard to put it any other way than to say that he's a boot-looking warmonger.
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Pete Yep.
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Pete The Geneva Conventions are very clear about
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shipwrecked people, even people who were active combatants prior to being shipwrecked.
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Once their ship is wrecked, you can't just shoot them as they tread water.
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It doesn't seem to be even disputed by hexeth, nor by Alex, that they made a decision to kill
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the survivors of the first attack, which is a crime under international law. People aren't
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upset about this or pretending to be just so they can have a reason to think that hexeth or Trump
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are bad. They believe that hexeth and Trump are bad because they do bad things, this being a
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prime example of that. There have been a lot of these kind of very clear moments in the past year
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or so, but this is another one of those Alex has lost his soul points. The person he's pretended
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to be in the 90s and 2000s never would have accepted the US government acting like this,
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let alone would he have been an active cheerleader for their attacks. It's crazy. The fact that he's
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saying that he didn't do this, and if he did, it's nothing wrong.
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Pete Yeah, that's crazy.
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Pete Yeah, that's the parody of justification and spin.
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These people, it's hard for them to, they just don't understand how things work in reality.
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The Geneva Conventions to them, they think of as limitations on what it is they're allowed to do,
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as opposed to a global agreement that if you wage total war on someone, you are opening yourself to
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total war being waged upon you. So the idea is if you want to fucking fight each other, go to fight
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places. Otherwise it's totally fine for us to murder whomever the fuck we want and burn your
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shit to the fucking ground. Pete Yeah, that's what a lot of the people who are discussing,
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like people who write essays about the commentary about the second strike aspect of this.
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Pete Yeah, no, absolutely.
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Pete That's one of their main points is like, why would anybody ever follow rules of engagement
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against us if this is the way that we're behaving? Pete Absolutely not, no, go fucking-
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Pete Such a dangerous precedent to set in terms of like, how, and sure, we're not perfect.
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Pete Sure.
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Pete And we've breached things a lot in the past.
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Pete Sure.
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Pete But when you're brazen about it, and you're like, no, this is just how we do things.
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That's a different countenance.
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Pete I mean, it's absurd. Like the idea, we live in a world where fucking, because somebody shot
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at somebody in Iraq, Trump drops the mother of all fucking bombs. You know, like that's-
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Pete That's his first term.
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Pete Yeah, whatever.
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Pete That was chill Trump.
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Pete That's, but the thing there is, we have already accepted that for this, this is the
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response. If you then do that to Venezuela, it is okay for Venezuela to go fuck you up. That is the
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implied thing that we have lived under the entire time.
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Pete Right. And there's really, I mean, I'm not saying they should, obviously, but there's no
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reason that we would have a moral high ground if they did like a chemical attack or a terrorist
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attack of some sort.
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Pete Absolutely not.
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Pete Like the international structures of agreements and things that we use to like,
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say what is right and what is wrong are things that we are violating wantonly.
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Pete Yeah. If Venezuela bombed Jacksonville, we'd have to go like, yeah, well, that's what happens.
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It's our fault.
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Pete I definitely wouldn't, but you know, you'd,
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you'd, what do you say?
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Pete Right?
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Pete Yeah.
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Pete Hey, don't.
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Pete Yeah, I would say don't.
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Pete I would say don't.
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Pete From an international perspective, you're like, what the fuck else are they going to do?
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Pete Right, right, right. Don't is a reasonable response.
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Pete Yeah. Fuck.
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Pete Yeah.
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Pete So Laura Loomer comes on.
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Pete Yeah.
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Pete She's got so many meetings and Alex is able to get a hold of her to come in and do a little
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coverage.
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Pete Laura, thank you for coming on. This is very urgent. I just want to get this out right now.
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Give us a boil down.
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Laura Yeah, well, thanks so much for having me on, Alex. People can review this report on my
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ex account. And I broke a story the other day, the first day of the Pentagon press corps
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orientation about this coup against Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. And my sources, high level
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sources here inside the Pentagon have told me that the, that the stories that are, that are being
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planted against Secretary of War Hegseth are coming from inside Secretary of Army Dan Driscoll's
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office. And you know, people have been following their reporting over the last few months. They
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know that I have, you know, called out the Army Secretary multiple times for, you know, some of
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his behavior since he has been the Army Secretary, including going jogging with Eugene Benman, one of
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the architects of the impeachment against President Trump. He colluded with his brother, Alexander
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Vindman, as you know, also to highlighting and platforming a Medal of Honor recipient who spoke
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while in his uniform at the DNC convention in 2016 bashing President Trump. And we know that's a,
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you know, violation, you're not supposed to engage in partisan political behavior while you're in
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uniform. Alex Y'all are grasping at straws. Remember Trump's military parade? Man. This is
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this is all very sad. Yeah. And one of the big pieces of evidence is this picture of him jogging
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with Vindman's brother. Like, stop, just stop. That's not evidence of a coup. I mean, Trump
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put the Secretary of the Army in. He nominated this guy. The guy went to college with Vance.
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I don't know what to say other than you know you should stop this. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Listen,
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you've heard your words before. They're being recorded right now. Yeah. This is such silly
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levels of scapegoating that you're trying to engage in that all it really reveals is how deep
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underwater you are. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it is. I mean, again, like it feels like I don't know
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how to go low. I don't know how to go lower because I think creatively we are reaching the
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point at which evil is absurd for like pop culture. You know, like for for me to write a novel wherein
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this is the main character, people would just go, oh, come on, man. It's cartoonishly evil,
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this person you're making. I can't relate to them as a as a moral being at all. It's almost like
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they're fucking inhuman. Yeah. Well, it's, you know, I resist that line of thought because
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that's how down that road there be devils. I'm not talking about in real life. I'm talking about in
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fiction. I'm talking about literally writing it. People's the review would be I cannot relate to
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these villains. See, this is where this is where the distinction I'm trying to make. I think I can
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because everything makes sense from the position of being desperate. Sure. Money.
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And jockeying for position in a new power system. Sure. Like the the right wing media that's evolved
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since Trump and especially since Trump won in whatever this is secretly won in 2020. All of
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what we've been doing for a while is. Yeah. This this media space is like something that they they
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all need to carve their piece out of. And the villainy and all this shit, like all the actions
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that you're saying wouldn't make sense. They do make sense. I don't I'm not saying that it's not
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that they don't make sense from a direct line to line point of view. It is that if you're if
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you're engaging with it, then your immediate reaction is revulsion. And then this behavior
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is that of a serial killer. This is a psychopath. I think I know what you mean. You know, it's
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that this is not a compelling villain because their actions don't make sense outside of a
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villainous motive. Yeah. Yeah. Like you have to be out there going for evil to do this shit. A
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good wrestling heel. You kind of think like they have a point. You know, like they're going about
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this wrong. But I got a point like Alex in the past. Maybe. No, absolutely. Whereas this heel
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shit is just like this isn't this isn't compelling. They know they're bad. They're being bad. Yeah.
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It's Yeah, I mean, it is it is the difference between The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker.
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The Last Jedi. Yeah, the old needs to be destroyed in favor of the new. What you do to go about that
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is the difference between heroism and villainy. Whereas The Rise of Skywalker is trash, just like
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this administration. I tuned out because I've forgotten those movies. Fair enough. So Alex and
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and Loomer. They're on the same page about one thing. And that is that we must defend
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Pete Hegseth at all costs. This is me maximum red alert. If they can get Hegseth claiming he's a war
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criminal without any evidence, it'll kill all the investigations. Then they're going to try to
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impeach Trump when they steal the midterms or even earlier, come in with this war crime thing. They
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are full court press right now. So I know you've got to go into another meeting. We actually want
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to get they want to get somebody who's sympathetic with them in his role. They want to replace the
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Democrats want to replace Pete Hegseth with Dan Driscoll, which is why. This is a Pentagon coup.
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I mean, exactly. Before they can do the larger Podesta plan, Democrat coup they've been calling
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for. Civil war saying Trump's Hitler, the military needs a revolt. Well, you start you start your
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revolt by removing the loyal Secretary of Defense. I mean, this is simple. He's the top domino. He
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Hegseth at the Pentagon's the ace of spades. I mean, this is this is maximum absolute.
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Everybody needs you to be defending Hegseth. And instead, it's you know, they're making their main
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move against him, Laura and other people. It's like crickets. Thank God you're always there.
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You know, sometimes they want to they want to replace him because they want somebody who's not
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as conservative and pro Trump as Pete Hegseth because in order for them to be successful in
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their coup, not just against Hegseth, but against President Trump, they need to stop the
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militarization of the borders. They have to stop the deployment of the National Guard to deal with
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right is all constitutional, which is all constitutional, which they've said is illegal.
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It's not even a possibility that Alex can consider that maybe Pete Hegseth did something wrong.
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There are negative stories about Hegseth in the media. And the only possible reason for that is
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that someone is trying to take him out so they can more easily take out Trump. Once again, the
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Infowar has mostly become a gossip show about palace intrigue and people speculating on the
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fantasy coup plots that are going on behind every closed door. This happens when there's no credible
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villain for propagandists to deflect anger toward, and they refuse to accept that their side has all
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the power. Nick Fuentes doesn't have to do gossip shit. He can actually criticize the actions of the
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members of the Trump administration based on the things that they've done. And a major part of that
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is his willingness to accept that his side has all the power. Alex cannot do that because once he
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accepts that, his show means nothing. He's not in a political struggle. He's in a war against the
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devil. So if his side has all the power and they don't vanquish the devil, it's pretty obvious that
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they aren't in that same war with the devil. Or maybe they're working with the devil.
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Or maybe they suck.
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In a political struggle, you can acknowledge that you have control of all three branches of the
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government and still have a reason not to force your agenda through. You could think that it could
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be seen as tyrannical or it might backfire or whatever. If you're in a war against the devil,
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you kill the devil if you have the chance, because it's the devil. Subconsciously, this is the
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struggle that whatever audience Alex has left is going through. They're suffering from horrible
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cognitive dissonance about why the guy they elected to kill the devil seems to be working
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with the devil all the time, even though he has all the power. It doesn't make any sense why Trump
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hasn't arrested or killed Bill Gates or Fauci. Obviously the constitution and law would stop him,
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but law is a human invention and they're working for the devil. The devil doesn't have due process
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rights like the fucking people on those boats. Yep. As the audience has to deal with seeing Trump
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not defeat the devil, and as they watch Alex support him as he works with the devil,
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it requires them to come up with new explanations for why this shit is happening. Alex is hoping
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that he can redirect people's attention with the palace intrigue and by replaying the hits of the
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deep state days, but he has much stronger competition in the bullshit media space now.
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This shit's just not going to fly. This is probably the worst way that Alex could play
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the situation because Trump's base is pissed right now and they're asking questions. The only
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audience that the palace intrigue stuff appeals to are entirely passive folks who are ready to
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accept any explanation someone gives them. To any person listening critically, Alex's angle on this
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raises more questions than it answers and that's strategically really bad for him.
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I mean, if your response to this guy can murder people because he wants to is,
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it's constitutional, you've misunderstood. Even if that's the case, your response is,
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so we need to change the constitution. Sure.
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Right? Whether or not somebody has ever said this okay is meaningless to me because it is not.
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Right, but we short circuit that and we get around it by saying, you know what,
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you're not even actually mad about that. They're just tricking you into thinking that you're mad
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about that because the secretary of the army wants to coup Pete Hegson.
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I love it when other people tell me what I'm thinking in my own brain.
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Right, and what you're mad about. Yeah, it's really nice of them.
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But if you do that, you're able to get around the visceral feelings you have about like,
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well, maybe we should change things so you can't just murder people on boats.
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Murder's bad. Right. You know, like when there are mass shootings,
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Yeah. They get around whatever human
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feelings you have about it by being like, you only feel bad because the gun rights people
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are trying to attack the second amendment. Yep.
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Yeah, that's how you get around that. Heading down the Mariana Trench and we're
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going to see how far that motherfucker goes. Yeah.
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Yep. Pretty deep.
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Pretty deep. So Alex explains that like, some of his audience, they're just not realists.
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They don't get that Harris could have won. Fair enough.
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We just have a right to expose what they're up to, what they're engaged in,
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and how they're trying to undermine and act like Trump's dictator when he's not.
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It's the Democrats that want to sell this country out.
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The Republicans, you know, have got their own problems. They've been a horrible party until
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recently. But we have formed a beachhead in the country, in the government of real reform.
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And that's what's exciting.
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So again, there's this paradox of people that have woken up
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who aren't realists, that don't have any depth or context.
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The appointees by and large of Trump have been excellent and are dismantling the globalist
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system. Trump's made major mistakes. His DOJ is a disaster. We're critical of that.
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Are you?
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Put this out. I'm talking about, put this out. I see comments on it. It's like, oh,
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he's defending himself for being a, you know, sucking Trump's weenie or whatever. It's not
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about that. I don't say that to convince you that my position's right. I know my position's right.
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I'm asking you to be a realist and say, would you rather have Kamala Harris in right now?
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The answer that InfoWars should have to the question, would you rather Harris be president,
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is probably yes.
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Absolutely.
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From Alex's perspective, it would be way easier for him to make money if there was a credible
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opposition he was pretending to fight. But the real reason I say this is because of the
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philosophy that this show is built on. Electoral politics is not supposed to matter. The left-right
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paradigm's an illusion that the globalists weaponize to control the public. Politicians
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are stage actors and they're all controlled, except Ron Paul and anyone who gets canceled
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for saying something really racist. What matters for the InfoWar is you, the listener, the
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individual is the most important thing. You're capable of making the changes that need to be
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made to save the world. And all the government can do is either get in your way or stay out of
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it. In terms of furthering the goals of waking up the public and uniting the team, I think that
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Alex's audience would be way better off if Harris had won. When Biden won, they all got together
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and stormed the Capitol. In 2024, when Trump won, there wasn't that kind of unity. All the
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attention economy scammers went into overdrive, trying to carve out their own piece of the pie.
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And a giant civil war is broken out in their media, largely surrounding Israel and the Charlie
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Kirk murder. Right now, the only way Alex can use his time is trying to patch up holes in Trump's
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sinking ship. You know, explaining that egg sets and legal actions are totally legal, trying to
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spin fun threads about palace intrigue. It's all rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Conversely,
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if Harris had won, all of these right-wing influencers would understand the importance
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of them working together and not trying to cannibalize each other for the sake of slightly
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increasing their own audience. Their coalition is made up of people who fundamentally do not like
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each other. So ironically, their best case scenario is to be chasing power, but never
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actually having it. Right. Once there is actual power, it makes no sense to let these other folks
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you hate have a chance at grabbing that power. So the attacks ultimately turn inward. Candace
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Owens hates Laura Loomer. Nick Fuentes momentarily hated Tucker until he got on his show and
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humiliated him. The list goes on and on with these feuds, and the result of their fighting is a boost
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in negative headlines towards Trump world figures that each of these people sees as unaligned with
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themselves. Mix that up with actual journalists reporting on horrible things that Trump
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administration figures are doing, and you have a lot of holes that Alex is left running around to
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patch up, which leaves his content seeming really stupid. Some of these right-wing media figures
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have been able to position themselves so that Trump winning is better for them, but most of them
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are people who are not connected personally to Trump and are free to attack him. That's the people
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who benefit the most from Trump winning. Right. I would say that the, there are only people who
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should actually be glad that Harris didn't win are those folks. Everyone else, including the
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right-wing movement in this country, would be way better off if the presumed greater of two evils
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had won and maintained a status quo that wasn't inwardly destructive. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it turns
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out getting together a bunch of whiny babies who can't think one year ahead is not a good long-term
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governance strategy. I can't believe that. It's just so shocking. Right. And trying to put a patchwork
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together of groups that all essentially define themselves by exclusion means that once there's
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a power that is attainable, they will want to use it to exclude the people that they want to exclude.
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And sometimes that's contradictory to what another group wants to exclude. And that's really
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where their coalition just can't work. Yep. And we're all forced to live through it. We all hated
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the same thing until that thing is now out of our way. Now we all find out we hate different things.
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Great. Yeah. Thrilled. So one of the things that I think is a note that we've had and is awful
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is this idea that Alex has become just like this hack. He's just a political hack,
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vote blue no matter who kind of asshole. And he explains in this next clip why that is. And I do
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appreciate him actually addressing it. Oh, that's nice. Since really the 70s when they got rid of
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Nixon, and Nixon had his issues, but he was really the president. What were Nixon's issues? Decisions
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of bad. Big? It's all been declassified. The CIA removed him because they wanted to be in charge.
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But we really, after Kennedy got killed and Nixon got removed, the deep state was in charge.
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And so the Republican leadership at the top would just share power. They all intermarry together. It
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was all staged. Uniparty. That's why I said the left-right paradigm is false. I coined that term,
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the false left-right paradigm. Looking up, I coined it like 29 years ago. It's picked up
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like 29 years ago. It's picked up at university text now, you name it. People go, well, wait a
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minute. Now you're saying we're Republicans. Now you're saying we're right wing. Back then it was
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totally controlled. And all these terms mean nothing. Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. He'd
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be ultra right-winger today. Terms change. Liberal used to mean less taxes and more guns and more
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property and more freedom. Liberal now means communism and cutting your son's wiener off.
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Means transhumanism. But there really wasn't two parties to speak of until
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Ron Paul and the Tea Party and everything you and I did together to try to reform the Democrat and
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Republican parties. And it turned out we were able to reform because it was Christians and others,
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the Republican party party. And it's perfect, but it's day and night compared to the Democrats now.
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And they're just digging in and getting more communists, more satanic, more globalist every
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day. So this is helpful. And I'm really glad that Alex explained this. So there were multiple
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political parties up until around the time JFK was assassinated or when Nixon resigned. Right.
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There were 11 years separating those two events. And I'm pretty sure that LBJ did a ton of stuff
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Alex hated, but whatever. His penis was too big to be mad at. It's not important to nail down an
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exact date here. True. In either 1963 or 1974, the deep state took over the country and then there
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was a uni-party. This uni-party was a cold war era communist fantasy of the Democratic party where
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the Dems were steering the ship and the Republicans had entered into a power sharing agreement with
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them. The Republican party was essentially controlled opposition, obscuring the fact that
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the commies had all the power. This was the state of affairs until Ron Paul came along, but it wasn't
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Ron Paul that changed the world. It was Alex and his dumb radio show. And Alex's telling of the
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story, his support of Ron Paul created the tea party, which took over the Republican party and
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has now morphed into the Trump movement. In effect, he was able to wake up the masses to the existence
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of the uni-party by attacking the fraud of the left-right paradigm, which let the tea party
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create a new political party that wasn't based on the GOP of old. By creating this new entity and
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using it to power the right wing of the uni-party in the United States, they were able to take
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control of the party apparatus. So now they are truly a separate party. There finally are two
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parties in the United States government, thanks to Alex. I ask this question. Why were rich people on
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the same party at the end of it? I don't know. Weird. It's a coincidence. Yeah, it must be.
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So there's such an awesome fantasy here for Alex to have. And it's such a great way for him to
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rationalize how pathetically he's descended into team sports in terms of his political views. It
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makes him one of the most important figures in American history. It gets him off the hook for
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how obvious it is that he can't engage with the news past the lesser of two evils ideas anymore.
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Without sarcasm, I say that this is a great effort on this part. Yeah. Could be worse.
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It's inspired work. I think, you know, he makes a lot of really bad moves and it's fair to call out
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when one is pretty good. You know what's interesting to me? He brought up something that I
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hadn't really put together, but now I'm starting to see a constellation here. All right. Alex,
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more fun drinking, more fun when he's drunk. Nixon, awful person. He was a drinker though,
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right? Trump, no drinks. This is the problem. These right-wing monsters are just better when
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they're partying. Yeah. They're less, or at least they're less damaging to the rest of the world.
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They're going to fuck around and start a world war over drugs. Yeah, tea totalers cannot be allowed
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anywhere near the government. You need to be fucked up and be like, I shouldn't do this.
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That's what you should feel. Most of the time when you're in government, you should be like,
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I'm too high for this. But then again, we have like Pete Hegseth is a notorious drunk.
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So maybe he's too far. Maybe he's too... Somewhere between Trump and Hegseth is the right level of
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drunk. Right, right, right. We need to figure this shit out. People need to do drugs, but the
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right amount. There's a math here. Yeah, there is. So the problem with Alex's idea here is that
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it's transparent bullshit. Yeah. This is an explanation that's meant to justify his change
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in behavior, not an actual shift in American politics. He didn't give up on the idea that
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the left-right paradigm was a fraud. He just fixed the problem. So it makes sense that he's
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a political hack now, a partisan dork. Right, right, right. It's fucking nonsense. Everything
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made sense until I changed and then it made sense again, but in a different way. What about Reagan?
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Anyway, I was reflecting on how trapped Alex feels in the present day and how the show just feels
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like a guy spinning his wheels and trying to rationalize becoming the thing he's supposed to
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hate. And I think I came up with as good a theory as I can with the information that's available.
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I think that Alex is trapped simply because his debts aren't dischargeable through bankruptcy.
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Info wars and free speech systems can go out of business, but he'll have that debt hanging over
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him no matter what. So no business he tries to run in the future is going to be free from that.
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He's gotten around this by setting up the Alex Jones store with Bigley and putting
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Chase Geyser's name on the filing for the Alex Jones network. So in effect, he's owned. If Bigley
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says you have to support Trump no matter what, what else can Alex do? He's unemployable at any
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legitimate business in the media. He can't start his own thing without it being subject to his
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debts. So there's nowhere he can go. As much as Bigley stuff has been the escape parachute that
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will allow him to be rich for the rest of his life, it's also a cage. And in Alex's field,
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these kinds of optics are a really big problem, whether they reflect reality or not. It could very
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well be the case that Bigley doesn't give a shit what he says on air, but the fact that he's their
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employee affects how an audience sees what he does. It starts to give them more reasons to
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question the sincerity of the positions he puts out, because quite literally, he's no longer
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independent. I think that Alex is inspiring a lot of these kinds of questions in his listener's head,
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which is he's seeing it expressed directly back at him on social media. They're seeing his behavior
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as being exactly what he would have called being a sellout earlier in his career, so Alex knows that
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he has to explain why what he's doing now is totally cool. Electoral politics used to be
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bullshit and all the politicians were actors, but Alex fixed that all, so it's important that he
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votes straight ticket for Republicans in the midterm or else the devil might get you.
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It just feels very defensive of the, like, I don't know if his bosses now are telling him,
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our brand is Bigley. That's a Trump reference. That is a Trump reference. We are a Trump business.
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Yep. You cannot be on the Alex Jones store and break with Trump. Our hats say Trump is super great.
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I don't know if that's the case, but the fact that Alex is behaving in exactly the way you would
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if your boss has told you you have to continue this, I think it's causing concern in the
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audience's minds, and he's now in a position where nothing can be felt as truly free. Nothing can be
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truly sincere. And the downside of this, I think, is obviously there's one explanation that is
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Roger knows some shit that Alex doesn't want out. There's one explanation of this that is
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Bigley's marketing and their whole business is based on Trump, so our big guy...
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Right, he's got to be...
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That's one explanation, but I think the explanation that is way more attractive for
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the conspiracy audience is to create another conspiracy on top of it, and that is that he
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now works for Israel. And I think that that's the danger in a lot of the negative stuff he
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is responding back to. And that ping-pong, that back and forth between him and the audience,
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I think it only gets more toxic as it goes along. Yeah, I mean, it really is an example of that,
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like, you know, nobody gives a shit what you say until you do something. And it is like,
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back in the day, sure, he took ads. Sure, Marty Schachter is allowed to do fucking
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limericks and shit like that. But he was doing the stuff that you would do if you don't have a boss.
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He was doing the stuff you would do if you're independent. He was doing the stuff you could do
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if nobody could really give you consequences. This is not that. This is not the behavior,
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and that we can see other people engaging in the behavior you would do if you didn't have
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consequences. It is so stark that even if he's not being owned, even if he's not being run by
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anybody, he's acting like he is. Yeah, and there's the other explanation that that leads to,
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which is just he is such a guy who's blinded by the closeness that he feels to the president
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and the structure of power that he can't even see how contradictory he is. Yeah, I mean,
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he just wrapped up too much of his own ego in it, and now he's trapped. And that's a completely
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possible explanation for everything. Sure. The fact that the behavior is so, like,
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it leads you to look for other explanations. Right, right, right. And I think that the ones
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that are conspiracy ones are escapist, and the ones that are kind of, like, business-y related
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are more plausible. Sure. That's kind of where... Yeah. Either way, you're on the wrong fucking
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side. Yeah. So Alex has a guest on to talk about his Loomer shit and the coup on Pete Eggset.
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All right. All right, let's go to Ivan Rakelin.
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Green Beret, Defense Intelligence Agency lawyer, does great work with General Flynn.
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I appreciate him joining us from the road. I wanted to get his take on Laura Loomer,
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whose intel I've matched with mine on a Secretary of Army deep state coup,
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tried to drive Eggset out, and that will implicate Trump claiming it's a war crime,
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blowing up these boats. I like to imagine that there were some people sitting at home
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listening to Alex and Loomer talk, and they were on the fence on the credibility of what
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they were saying, but then Ivan Rakelin's gonna come push him over the hump. There you go.
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Having him on is pretty funny, particularly about there being a deep state coup against
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the Secretary of War, because Ivan was supposed to be the Secretary of Retribution when Trump
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got back in office. Yeah. He made a big deal out of offering globalists amnesty if they confessed
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by a certain date, and now a year into Trump's second term, he's doing a call-in from his car
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on Alex's show to talk about dumb shit Laura Loomer tweeted. Reminding people that Ivan
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Rakelin exists is embarrassing. It seems like a net negative for Alex. I would just cut him loose.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you can't do deep state anymore. That's not doable. You can't do deep
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state. You can still do globalists because at least they're maybe not in the government.
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But you can't do deep state. Everybody is deep state. They all work for the same guy.
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It's crazy. Yeah, and I think that when you have all branches of government and you can create
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something like a doge, and you can get away with these things, there's no excuse for a deep state
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existing because you can just stop them. You can literally kill them. If you know them,
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you can go kill them and people will have to eat it. They'll be like, shit.
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It's silly now to talk about this kind of shit. Oh, this guy was jogging with a guy.
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Oh, so then we shot him because that's what we can do now. Right?
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It's a little much. It's crazy.
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Alex asks Ivan about the takeover here that's going on at the coup and what have you.
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And I think Ivan's petty. They can get control of the Pentagon. Then they're green lit for their
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main move against Trump, which will signal for the left to do their national uprisings.
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Then when Trump tries to call the military, the leadership will say no. And then we're set up.
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Right. Not only are they stopping at not trying to block accountability for all the transgressions
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of the Austin years, like you're saying, they're going above and beyond. And at the end of the day,
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what stops them from doing it? So far, the first Trump administration, there was no accountability.
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So far, almost a year into it, there's been no accountability. So at this point in time,
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if I was talking to President Trump, he's got to look himself in the mirror and decide for himself,
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is he going to be a war time, a domestically war time president? Because we are at the,
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I'd say the apex of the 1770s meets 1860s meets 1960s. And they're trying to escalate that on
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steroids. The fastest and quickest way to do that is you have to bring in people that are
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already proven up and rejected the tyranny of the last four years, bring them into senior
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level positions so that they are ready, willing and able to destroy this communist takeover.
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See at the end of the day, it's Trump's fault for not making me secretary of retribution.
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Okay. Here's what I'm thinking. All right. We, everybody who's into it right now,
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uh, we dig a really big hole and we stay down there for a couple of years. And then when we get
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up, I imagine this place will be empty. Yeah. You know, I do think I don't like bunker thoughts.
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I'm having bunker thoughts, man. It feels like these guys just need to be left alone.
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And then there'll be a problem that solves itself. They will destroy each other and themselves,
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but we all will be hurting the process. We gotta find, we gotta find a space base or something.
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Like we can wait this out. I don't think that talk to Elon. I don't. Yeah. I think space base
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is going to be rough for the roughly a five and a half billion people who hate these guys. Yeah.
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I think I, you know, like obviously, yeah, let's dig a hole. Sure. But we just got to mitigate
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whatever damage they can do. You know, I don't know. I guess. I think it's really, really funny
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that his take on it is basically like, if he would've put me in, I would have stopped this.
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Absolutely. These people need accountability and retribution. You know what? I'm good at.
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I like saying accountability from him. That's a fun word to say from the secretary of retribution.
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It's Trump's own fault. He should looked in the mirror and made me part of the cabinet.
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And then we'd be cool. Instead I'm calling into Alex's show, apparently from an airport.
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Oh boy. Good times. It's like, he wants to be a superhero, like the retributor,
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you know, like, like the punisher version too. Yeah. He wants to be something. Yeah. So here's
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something stupid. They say, right. And he needs to be flanked by those members of the administration
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that are not playing ball. If he's going to keep them in place. I mean, I know one thing he's like,
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Oh, cash, Patel's doing great. Pam body's doing great over on Fox news. Well, if you're going to
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keep them, mr. President, why don't you have them flank you and address exactly what their
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responsibilities and roles are to the American people in order to support the mandate that we,
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we need to see public loyalty pledges, because this is all about not being loyal to the president
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and who the voters voted for. Exactly. Absolutely. Because that way he can directly speak to the
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people. He can't do this by himself. They want Trump to make, uh, appointees and cabinet members
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have public loyalty pledges. That's a great idea. What the fuck are they talking about? Well, okay.
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So when, uh, let's say you're in, uh, 1350. All right. So you're in 1350 and you've got a Duke
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or an Earl who kind of, you thought about seeing what's going on. Absolutely. Duke, Duke, Duke.
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Uh, and then you, you know, you see him marry somebody and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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that person is connected to these people. You got to come to the court. You got to publicly
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pledge your loyal to meet Neil. And then I'm going to chop your wife's head off. Right. I mean, like,
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honestly, it does feel like Alex is like, okay, cash Patel can stay, uh, as head of the FBI. If
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he takes the knee, if he will, uh, renounce being King in the North, he's got to take the black and
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he's got to go to the wall. It's fucking insane. Like what, what world are we living? I don't know.
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These people are literally children. Like it's so hard to imagine. Probably rightly complain about
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dictators making people do loyalty. Public humiliation rituals to, uh, create a dominance.
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All right. So here's what we need to do. We need to get everybody in the country to get in a room
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and then Trump's going to bring a goat in there and say, it's a deer and whoever doesn't say it's
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a deer gets shot in the fucking head. And then we move on with our lives. It's the only way to make
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sure that the public is loyal to the person that the public voted for. Absolutely remove the
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concept of reality and just lick his boots. So I had some other clips, uh, they're mostly dumb
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and I don't care. One of them is Alex lying about being shaken down by Canadian cops.
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Yeah. The most shakedown-iest of cops. Yeah. Uh, but it doesn't really matter. Nothing really
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matters that much after you hear this next clip, which is just like, go retire.
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That's right. Stay there. I know you're an airport. I want to come back in two minutes.
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Yeah. I mean, they brought us here. They're doing it. They're the ones that want martial law, not us.
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But in response to them, we have martial law. I mean, who cares, man? Give up.
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They want martial law, not us. So we're doing it. Yeah. To stop them.
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We must do martial law in order to stop martial law. Yeah. Great, man.
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Once you've reached that circular logic, it's over. He's made documentaries about how the
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globalists will argue that they need to do martial law to stop martial law. Yep. Fucking idiot. Yep.
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What the fuck is wrong with you? I don't know what else there is to say. Yes. Right? That's nuts.
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That's, that's what villains do. To protect you from yourself. I have to kill you. There's only
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one way to keep you safe and that's to bury you in the ground. Yeah. Yep. I think that it's quite
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clear that whatever is Alex's current operation and his system, it is not the same thing that it
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was. No. And I think that we have to get to a point where we let go of the past and stop holding
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him in the present responsible for things in the past. Sure. Not like to say he's off the hook for
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everything, but like pretending that there is a, like a consistency that is demanded. Right. I
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think at a certain point we, and I'm pointing the finger mostly at myself here. Sure. I have
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to realize that that's just, it's meaningless anymore. Yeah. Be like, oh my God, you want
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martial law. You're saying the same thing that you say the globalists would say, oh, look at you,
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you fucking hypocrite. You're in favor of sinking these boats. Right. It doesn't really matter.
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What he is now is a new thing. Yeah. And we may just have to accept that. Yeah. I mean, I would say
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it is, it is a new thing that is the result of the totality, you know, in the same way that you can't
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be, whenever Mitch McConnell was pulling his shit, you know, you can't be like, oh, you're a hypocrite.
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No, I was, will, and will always say anything I need to say to get what I want. Yeah. The fact that
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what I want is maybe different than what it used to be has no effect on what it is I'm going to do
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to get it. Or I was obscuring what I wanted behind the facade of another goal prior. Yep. And now that
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is no longer necessary. Right. I was always seeking to create a white nationalist imperialist
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state, uh, under a, uh, racist dictator. Yep. I always wanted that, but that wasn't acceptable for
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me to advocate for in the past. So I pretended I loved the constitution. And you better believe that
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it becomes unacceptable for me to do so in the future. I will tell you I never did. Right. Yep.
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And I think that that is a framework that we can look at him through. Yeah. But I do, I do just
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think that there comes a time when the trappings of his pretend character in the past have to just
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be dropped. Yeah. And I'm getting closer and closer to that. Like this, this, this image of
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Alex as being the same person gone. Nope. Nope. Can't be. And I think that we're embarking on
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a little bit of a path, uh, with Alex that is going to, uh, culminate in,
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I don't know. It's still playing out even right now at the end of December. Yeah. Like how, uh,
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this episode is going to, yeah, to unfold, but we're, we're dipping our toes into some
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bad water right now. I definitely feel very uncharted. I feel like this is a, this is a
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whole new thing. Uh, not because it's like so unexpected or the, the events themselves are
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unusual for humans. Like this is the same stuff. It's just all of the toys are so different,
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you know, all the stuff they can do. It feels like one of the big things that kept us from
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all the horrifying stuff in the past was just possibility. If it takes two weeks to get a
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message somewhere, you can't be as dictator-ish as if you can be in everybody's home at the same
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time. You know? And I think that, uh, certainly, uh, we've not experienced someone who's so willing
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to just be like, Oh yeah, the court said that. Fuck that. Uh, because I think a lot of people
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thought, Hey, you're going to get taken out. You'll be removed from office somehow,
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but apparently not. It is uncharted. And I really wish that I remember the protagonist of that
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game's name, but I don't. Uncharted. Uh, Nathan Fillion. No, no. Nathan Lane. Drake. Nathan Drake.
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Or just Drake. Oh, Drake feels right. I played that game a long time ago and forgot about it.
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Anyway, Uncharted. It was also a movie. Maybe starring Nathan Fillion. No, it was starring
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Spider-Man. Uh, the kid Spider-Man. Garfield. No, no, no. That was a tall Spider-Man. Oh,
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what's his name? The current Spider-Man. McGuire. No, that was old Spider-Man. That was a personal
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favorite. Holland. Yes. Current Spider-Man. We found it. Not animated Spider-Man. Anyway,
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we'll be back with another Spider-Man breakdown. Uh, but until then we have a website. Indeed we
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do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas. You're on the
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air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
