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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and then talk
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a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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The thing is that I don't remember if I've done this before or just talked about it,
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but we're fucking doing it this year.
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Okay.
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I got a cheese advent calendar.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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You want full cheese advent.
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I've got a cheese advent calendar and I'm really excited about it.
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And I would like to enlist anybody who would like to, to make a cheese advent calendar
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type sting for me to play whenever I discuss the cheeses that are in the advent calendar.
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All right.
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All right.
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I'm not throwing this out to DJ Dan Arky, but I want, there's 24 cheeses here.
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There's plenty.
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You want like a, the sing of the day.
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You want one of those?
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Anything.
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Yeah.
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It's something about cheese.
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All right.
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Anyway, so if people would like to create those, send them to Jordan at knowledge, knowledgefight
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at gmail.com.
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I will listen to them.
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You know, here's my problem.
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And I think this is my problem as maybe a person living in society.
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My instinct is to be like, well, how can you do a cheese advent calendar?
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There's not 24 cheeses.
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So many cheeses.
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There's like five cheeses because there's only that many colors.
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So wrong.
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So wrong.
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So definitely wrong.
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Yep.
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Here's also the exciting piece of this.
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Yes.
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So if people want to put in these theme songs and want to make little stings, we'll all
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have a great time with it.
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Fine.
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Yep.
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But also the 18th and the 19th are live show dates.
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That's right.
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Will be cheese.
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We'll have to eat cheese on stage.
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It will be the 18th and the 19th are covered in this 24 day cheese calendar.
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You can't leave it at home.
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The tension.
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Who knows what it will be.
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Right.
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I show day is going to be up on this cheese advent calendar.
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Because I'll have a room full of people screaming cheese at me.
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Yeah.
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You know, my now wife, we scheduled a trip only a few months into our relationship because
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it's like, hey, well, at least we'll be together until this fucking trip.
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Right.
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That'll work.
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Sure.
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So this is my means of accountability on cheese.
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Yep.
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I like it.
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And it's always fun to open up those little doors and find something behind it.
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I mean, I don't know why, but an advent calendar is always surprisingly kind of fun.
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Yeah.
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So what about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is today while we were recording is T day.
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Went and spent the afternoon with my family.
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It was lovely.
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It was great.
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They're great.
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It's good times.
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We had food.
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Jordan.
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We ate it.
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There were children there.
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Do you really want people to know that you celebrate Thanksgiving?
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Do you really want your leftist credibility to be called into question?
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Yeah.
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I celebrate Columbus day.
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I celebrate it twice a year.
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I want to make sure that Columbus is remembered appropriately.
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Wait a second.
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Because he discovered America maybe four times.
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I've got a bad argument.
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If you celebrate Columbus day twice a year, it kind of waters down the importance of Columbus
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day, right?
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So two is better than one.
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It's less special.
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It makes both of them kind of weaker.
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Well there's Christopher Columbus and then really I celebrate Colombo day.
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So it's not the same.
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It's a lot better.
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In fact, there's one more thing about it is that the food is better.
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I'm just nodding aggressively.
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It's great.
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It's really good.
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I'm glad you had a good time with your family though.
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What's your side dish of choice?
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I'm a mashed potatoes man.
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Of course.
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Go deeper.
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What's next after mashed potatoes?
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Let's see.
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I'm mashed potatoes then I go to corn.
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I'm not an exotic Thanksgiving dish.
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I don't like a casserole my man.
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I don't like a casserole.
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I think corn's a little basic.
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I'm a little basic.
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But I think you know stuffing, cranberry sauce, any of those answers would have been kind
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of basic.
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Don't do that.
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We don't do that.
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What?
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This is a family of not necessarily what you would describe as good cooks.
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We have not stuffed anything in a long time.
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Yeah.
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But okay.
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Okay.
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I was just going to say, here's what just happened in my brain.
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I was going to say, hey, you don't have to be good cooks.
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You can have that cranberry sauce in a can.
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Yes, you can.
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And then my brain flashed back to Adam Carolla screaming about cranberry sauce in a can every
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year at Thanksgiving and about how it's white trash and how all you have to do is get some
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sugar and put some cranberries in a pan and you can make your own cranberry sauce.
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Well, there is that.
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And then my brain was like, I bet he did that rant this year.
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I bet he did.
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I bet he's still doing the cranberry sauce rant.
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That's a bit.
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Yeah.
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That's his holiday bit.
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Brutal.
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I bet he doesn't even do it on holidays.
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I bet he does it in February.
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Yeah, get some cranberry in a can.
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And everybody's like, oh yeah.
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Yep.
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Good times.
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Holidays.
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Good times.
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Wonderful.
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Yep.
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So today we got an episode to go over.
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All right.
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And we're going to be talking, hey, it's kind of fitting.
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We're recording on a holiday.
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You should have the day off.
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And we're going to cover an episode from a Saturday when Alex should have had a day off.
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Just taking the fucking day, man.
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So it's November 15th, 2024.
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And we'll get to that here in a second.
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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, my daughter, Skell.
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She's been trawling through the back catalog in between working on her BA and curating.
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I'm so proud of her.
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And it's great getting random texts like space leases or Lionel, Lionel, Lionel, Lionel.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Blitzkrieg und Blaukraut.
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Come on, man.
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You're now at policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Recycling.
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Next, Reese's Pieces to Join Big Thief featuring Chief Keef.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Come on, now.
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That one was pretty good.
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You did a solid cold read on that one.
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Well, the other one really appears to be German, and I don't know what those words mean.
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No.
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And I don't want to...
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It was a tongue twister.
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It looked like German, and my first thought as I read it was bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep,
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bleep, bleep, bleep.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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There's no spaces in this, so I'm going to give it a shot.
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Here we go.
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But we have a technocrat in the mix.
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So thank you so much to Dan Mocking Jordan, Mocking Russell, Mocking Alex, Dear God Save
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Me, I'm Crying and I Can't Breathe, Thank You So Much, Love You, Little Loser, Titty
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Baby, From Tom the Mailman.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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That one wasn't so bad.
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No.
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Here's how, here's where my brain's weird.
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Yeah.
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I forgot that we did an episode that touched on Russell Brand.
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So when I saw Russell in that name, the first thing that I thought of was Russell from Survivor.
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Right.
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And I'm like, when did we talk about Russell Hantz?
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I don't think we did.
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No.
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I don't think we've ever talked about Russell Hantz.
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Yeah, he sucks.
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Well, that's probably why we haven't talked about him.
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So Jordan, another person who sucks.
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Yep.
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Jeffrey Epstein.
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Equally, equally sucks.
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That's how crazy this guy sucks.
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Russell Hantz and Jeffrey Epstein, the only two at that level.
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Jeff, Jeff did a lot of bad stuff.
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Yeah, sure.
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And I don't mean to minimize that, but Russell Hantz burned people's socks on Survivor to
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make them less comfortable.
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Yeah.
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He's a bad dude.
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So anyway, we start off the show and there's more shit coming out, obviously.
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There's more trouble in paradise for Alex.
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And he's just like, you know what I fucking hate?
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I hate people who make deceptive headlines and make deceptive tactics.
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Don't we all see the headline though?
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Oh, Trump with unnamed girl in new emails.
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And they black them out so that you have nothing but innuendo.
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That is a tactic of deceivers.
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And that's what pisses me off when people do that and cherry pick things and just leave
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a vague, esoteric, gnostic thing out there that people can then project whatever they
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want on to.
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And it's the same.
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Now, the Republicans are responding tit for tat, though they say the bill will be passed
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by next week to release just hundreds of thousands of documents.
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There's already 20,000 that they have released and reading over it last night and today,
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hours of it, it's just all complete crap.
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And that's because even the stuff on Democrats isn't very bad, even though 99% of us Democrats,
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because the commies and all the rest of them have already gone through all this stuff when
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they control the files.
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Mike shouldn't be saying that the stuff that was revealed in the emails that have been
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released so far aren't that bad.
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He still talks about how bad the Pizzagate emails are, and making those into a villainous
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plot requires all kinds of imaginary code languages and made-up details, whereas these
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emails are pretty fucking direct.
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Leave all the rest of it to the side, and consider that in 2018, Epstein and Steve Bannon
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were exchanging emails and texts about making a documentary that was meant to clean up Epstein's
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public image.
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They were discussing possible directors for the project, and Bannon suggested someone
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who could make a quote, potential hagiography.
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Like a saint or some shit.
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That was in 2018.
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Trump was already president, and Epstein already, he actually, he messaged Bannon saying quote,
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Trump wakes up in the middle of the night sweating when he hears you and I are friends.
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These emails and messages are not a dud, and they paint a very damning picture.
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It's just not a picture that Alex can sell to the audience.
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His credibility in this stage of his career is wrapped up in Trump, and by proxy, his
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mainstream Trump credibility is reliant on his connections with Steve Bannon and Tucker
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Carlson.
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Openly acknowledging that one of these people was good friends with Epstein in 2018 and
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wanted to help him rehab his public image is very personally threatening for Alex.
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To admit that's true would require him to go scorched earth on Bannon, and Alex knows
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that he can't afford to do that.
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So he's just, no big deal, nothing that bad in there.
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It's all good.
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Has Bannon taken any serious heat or is everybody just like, this guy's such a psychopath, we
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already knew he would do this shit.
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I think he's taking some serious heat, but in the way that Bannon is Bannon.
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Yeah, right?
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Everybody's like, hey, you're a bad guy.
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And he's like, yeah man.
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That's where, did anything change?
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I was a bad guy earlier too.
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No, I don't, yeah.
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I think his status quo is reasonably level.
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Yeah, everybody already hates you.
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Yeah.
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Well, there's something to be said about that.
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And there's already been a season where the people who love Trump hated him.
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So he's gotten the hate from all around.
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He knows that the public's mind is fickle.
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Yeah.
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And I think he's rich and doesn't give a shit.
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That is the problem with where we are now is that if you've got enough money, you kind
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of know that there is another side that you can punch through.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And like ultimately trying to make an image rehab documentary for Epstein, like that's
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not illegal.
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It means you're a piece of shit.
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Sure.
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It's not illegal.
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I mean, I guess it's not.
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Listen, I like free speech as much as the next guy, but some limits should be turning
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a horrifying monster into a saint.
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Maybe that's actually a thing I'm against.
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So it's illegal to hear both sides of a story?
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Exactly.
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It 100% is illegal to hear both sides of this story.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So I think that maybe Bannon's less worried about that because there's nothing legal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's fair.
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So Tucker Carlson lately has been doing more monologues on his show.
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Okay.
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Doing some, hey, here's what I think.
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Haranguing.
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Yeah.
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Is anti-Semitism bad actually?
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That's a good question for evil.
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So this has gotten some comments from like Mark Levin has been like, look at this guy
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doing more monologues.
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Look at this Nazi.
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So Alex complains about Mark Levin complaining about Tucker Carlson and then ends by demanding
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to see Mark Levin's dick.
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All right.
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By the way, I love the neo-cons.
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Just a side point.
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I've heard a bunch of them like Shapiro and Mark Levin and others are like, look, try
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to live in voice.
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Look, did you see now he's addressing his audience and lecturing them up there doing
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monologues.
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He's never done that before.
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Now he's not just doing his podcast.
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He's doing a nightly show a lot of nights because he knows he's in trouble and his show's
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falling apart.
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Tucker's numbers have never been bigger.
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10, 20 times bigger than Fox and the aggregate.
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I encourage Tucker, along with others years ago, to do more live shows, to do more monologues,
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because that's what he was famous for at Fox.
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When he left Fox years ago and the show came back, I said, I like the podcast.
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I like the news thing, but I said, I'd like to see more monologue.
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And he told me in Florida eight months ago, he was going to bring him back.
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And then he said, yeah, I'm doing them two or three nights a week, but it takes a lot
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of preparation.
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I'd like to do more of it, you know, skin of the pants there, seat of your pants.
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And so again, he never did monologues before.
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Oh, he's just totally famous for that.
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It's just all lies.
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And they take everything he does, just like they would me and turn into some victory for
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them.
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So now addressing people directly is weird.
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That's what you do on your radio show, Mark.
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Are you a lunatic?
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But again, they take everything and turn it into something.
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I've been talking for 40 something minutes here, teleprompter free.
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I can go for 10 hours.
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Do I need to be put in a rubber room?
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Is it because I'm desperate?
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Why what is what you're not just doing a podcast or interviews?
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What is this?
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What is this witness where you're lecturing us and talking at us?
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That's weird as well then does the exact same thing.
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And a bunch of them have done this.
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It's just it's weird.
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And our numbers are all up.
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Their numbers are a bit in the tank.
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That's on record.
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Well, well, then I got a bigger show than he does.
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And I see him in person.
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He better watch out.
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Wow.
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My dick's bigger than yours.
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Really show us that actually we don't look at.
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Mama, look at that dick.
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You know what?
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Let me ask a question.
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And I feel like this is not a question that's been brought up often enough.
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Have people ever just like measured their dicks and then that's the end of it?
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You know, like it's just like, hey, man, you got an inch on me.
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I guess I'm going to get out of here.
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No, you know, no.
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Or even metaphorically, you know, it's always been a conversation about something else.
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You know, so even if you're shown to have a smaller dick or a bigger dick or whatever,
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those feelings you are having don't go away.
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So I think now it's...
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Then I feel like we shouldn't even have dick measuring contests, Dan.
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Yeah.
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I feel like they don't accomplish anything.
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Well, I mean, that's going to upset the economy.
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That's probably true.
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I think that there's just, I think there's a fun tension in me telling you ahead of time
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that this is going to get to a dick.
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And then as you're listening to it, you're like, how does this get there?
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How does this land?
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When do we get to a dick?
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Yeah.
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So it should also be an indication of how kind of dull all of this is that he said,
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I'm 40 minutes into the show.
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Let's...
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Wow.
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40 minutes of whining.
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There's been nothing happening.
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Yeesh.
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We're 40 minutes before I asked you to see a dick.
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Yeah.
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Let me see that dick, Mark.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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Is that maybe a way of measuring like how boring or what type of news day are we having
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is the length of time it takes Alex to get to, I want to see your dick.
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I think if you ever get there, you're not, it's not good.
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It's not a good day.
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It's not a good day.
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No, you're fair.
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You're right.
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So I pulled this clip, but I'm actually going to skip it because it's very long and I realized
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that it's actually grosser than it is worth, but I will discuss what happens because it
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does take up a long portion of Alex's show.
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I assume he treats the victims of many people with a lot of respect and care and absolute
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understanding and empathy for what they're going through.
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No, he says some horribly offensive things about sexual assault and rape.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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But he's doing it mostly to attack these podcasters who are the hosts of I've Had It.
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It's a podcast.
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Okay.
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I've Had It.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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He's talking about a different fucking podcast?
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Well, yeah, because it's hosted by women.
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Motherfucker.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck?
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Yeah, it's women.
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We're here.
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I know.
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God damn it.
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Yeah.
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God damn it.
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And I think he saw a meme that involved casting them in the part of the sea hag in Popeye.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah.
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So Alex spends a lot of time talking about them and I don't know.
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It's a mess and it's really, really disgusting.
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Yeah, that's horrifying.
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Great.
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And also they're both blonde and the sea hag is not from Popeye.
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That's a very good point.
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Come on, guys.
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This is the real issue that we need to get to the bottom of.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Come on.
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I mean, look, we all know that misogyny runs rampant throughout this world, but who knows
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what color people's hair are?
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Right.
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And she always wears a scarf.
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I get why you don't all instantly know the color.
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That makes sense.
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Anyway, we'll skip ahead from there and we get to another really important thing and
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that is Alex complaining about how no one appreciates him enough.
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These people are a joke, but because the general public, even though the quasi awake
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public is still illiterate all this and I don't blame you.
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My God, the thousands of hours I spent on Epstein, I must have spent months and months
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and months and months of my life on this.
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And we already know what it is.
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A Mossad CIA MI6 operation.
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We know Maxwell's dad ran it for the Mossad MI6.
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We know about all the stuff.
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My God, I was 30 years ago with Ted Gunners exposing giant industrial CIA child kidnapping
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rings with snuff films and devil worship.
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Oh, nobody wants to talk about that.
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Or the Franklin cover up back when Republicans were involved in this stuff.
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Ain't no Donald Trump in that.
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With Larry King and the rest of them, I don't mean the Jewish talks of CNN, the black Larry
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King.
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Wait, what?
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I'm sorry?
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What are we doing on all fronts there?
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You know, I've been the first person to air a BBC documentary that they fought like the
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devil to never air and I aired it in 1996 and 1997.
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And you know what I got for it?
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It was called conspiracy of silence.
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You can find it online.
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I got death threaded and then five dudes attacked me in a parking lot and broke my
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nose.
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Telling me to shut up.
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So I'm talking about, see, I get attacked in parking lots for exposing this decades
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ago.
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I know more about this than, and it's not about me.
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I'm sick of like seeing comments on my ex-feed.
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Why don't you talk about the USS Liberty?
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I've talked more about the USS Liberty and interviewed more people than anybody else.
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You know why?
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Most of the people are dead now, so nobody can interview.
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See, I'm a real person.
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My name's Alex Jones.
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He's just like mad that people on Twitter don't put respect on his name.
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Yeah.
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And like, it's just calm down, man.
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Who cares?
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You're talking about something that didn't happen 30 years ago.
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Yeah.
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You didn't get beat up in a parking lot.
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And if you did, it was probably because you're an annoying racist.
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Probably wasn't because of airing conspiracy of silence.
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Nope.
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And like, I would just say that if Alex, if any of this shit was real, why doesn't he
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get beat up in parking lots more?
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Man, there are so many parking lots and so many people who want to beat him up.
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Right?
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And like, it's not like he always traveled with a bunch of armed guards.
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Right.
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When I saw him at the Sandy Hook case in Austin, he had like a flank of security, but that
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wasn't the case five years prior.
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Someone could have beat the shit out of him at that chicken restaurant when everyone was
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just yelling at him.
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There are so many opportunities where he should have had his ass kicked if like anyone really
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wanted to whip his ass for his truth or whatever.
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It is abundantly clear the lack of violence in the hearts of most men in so far as Alex
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Jones is still walking the earth without a black eye.
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Yep.
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A constant black eye.
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Constant black eye.
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A black eye on top of a black eye that he has to explain away because he was in two
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parking lots on the same day.
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Yeah.
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He really is kind of a good embodiment of like how not violent most people are.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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The one who is violent is his hero Trump.
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Yep.
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Very much so.
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And he's taking out his violence on Marjorie Taylor Greene at this point.
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Good stuff.
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Because she has come out and said, hey, we should get that Epstein stuff released.
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I like having a president who's really willing to just be a piece of shit.
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You know?
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What are you going to say?
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Well then you got it.
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What are you going to say?
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You got what you want.
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The man is a real piece of shit.
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So at this point, Greene hasn't retired.
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She hasn't said I'm out.
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But she has been like, hey, we got to release this stuff.
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And then she put out some texts that she had sent Trump and they did not go well.
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And that's what pushed her over the edge to be like, we got to fucking do this.
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And then Trump attacked her and called her Marjorie Taylor Brown.
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Because grass turns brown when it rots.
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Oh man.
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He actually says that in a parenthesis after he says Marjorie Taylor Brown.
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Wish he were more clever though.
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But those two go hand in hand.
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If you're a true piece of shit, you aren't gifted with the ability to do good.
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Right.
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And in the political space, we didn't have like before 2015, you didn't have someone
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who's like little Marco, this guy's sweaty or whatever.
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And like that was good enough.
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It's Catskills comedy because nobody had standup yet.
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You know, that's what you got first banana, second banana.
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Now here's the problem.
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Ron Desantimonious is good.
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One shit on that.
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And that's good.
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Strong disagree.
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Strong disagree.
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Marjorie Taylor Brown is a huge wiff.
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That is the worst.
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But Ron Desantimonious, that lives on in my heart.
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Anyway, she's been trying to get these files put out and Trump is attacking her and Alex
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is like, oh boy.
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Now this is a bridge to what we're going to cover when we come back.
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Trump making a big mistake, but I know what he's doing.
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He does this all the time and it's just what Trump does.
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He's a piece of shit.
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But MTG is a great lady, good friend of mine.
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And 90% of the time she's saying good stuff about Trump.
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Just like me.
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But on the things she disagrees with, she comes out and criticizes the administration's
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of course correct.
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And in the media, Cherry picks up to conferences and says she's attacking you.
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She says you're covering up.
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She says you're bad.
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He then believes that and says she's excommunicata.
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She's nuts.
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I've got a statement here coming up after the break.
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But she's absolutely right.
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Don't cover it up.
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They're going to use the cover up to then claim you're there.
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The only thing to do is release it, even though it hurts a bunch of these big rich people
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that behind the scenes told you to make a deal with them.
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So there's so many background assumptions that are built into how Alex is talking about
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Trump attacking Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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One is that Alex is totally fine with the idea of Trump making horrible attacks against
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a sitting member of Congress from his own party based on something someone else told
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him about what she said.
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In Alex's version, Trump is lashing out at her because someone else misconveyed what
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MTG was saying, and this led to Trump calling her a traitor.
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Just based on this behavior, Trump isn't fit to lead.
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No, no, no.
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That's the guy I want.
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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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No, that guy sucks.
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Yeah, he does suck.
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He's a real piece of shit.
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The second here is that Alex knows that he has to downplay the sincerity of MTG's convictions
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on the issue of exposing child sex traffickers, because if she's treated like a sincere person,
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it reveals how deep Alex and Trump are in terms of being fine with a cover-up, as long
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as they can argue that the cover-up is better for their team.
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Her position on the Epstein Transparency Act is consistent with principle, and that contrast
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shows that Alex is not.
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And that's why he has to frame it in this way of she's trying to get Trump to course correct.
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It's not a sincerity of belief.
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Yeah.
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I'm enjoying this.
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I think it's turning into the rake effect for me.
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I'm starting to enjoy, again, his many different ways of being like, she says nice things 90%
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of the time.
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Now, 10% of the time, he's a pedophile billionaire who's destroying the world, but sure.
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And sometimes, in that, those 10% times, he deserves a little bit of pushback.
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Sometimes you need some pushback.
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Yeah, but not that much.
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So the third background assumption here is that Alex has to know that the fact that Trump
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doesn't tweet all kinds of crazy shit about him is an indication that Alex and InfoWars
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are irrelevant.
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When MTG has a criticism of Trump, it causes a shitstorm, because she has the type of power
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that means something to Trump.
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There aren't Twitter meltdowns about weird stuff Alex says, because all of it doesn't matter.
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Everyone who listens to InfoWars could turn on Trump tomorrow, and it wouldn't change
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anything for Trump's relationship with the power that he has access to.
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The only way to really understand this is that Alex should see what's going on with
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MTG, and it should scream at him that he's spineless and compromised on his core issues,
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and that nothing he does matters in a way, anyway, to the people that he sold out for.
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All he could have done to be valuable to these people is die, and it's kind of too late for
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that, because Charlie Kirk is a way better martyr than Alex ever would have been.
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He's got no use to any of these people anymore.
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Roger is just going to treat him like shit.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't think it's easy to recognize when you're in the capture spiral, because
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it happens for everybody, that like, well, I disagree with what my party's doing now,
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but that kind of concept and how that will always lead to a downward spiral of, if I
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can take you for granted, I don't care about you.
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That's just how it works.
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If you will go along with this, then I know that whatever words leading up to this and
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a little bit past it that you have, they're without teeth.
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There's nothing here.
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I can just act with impunity.
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Yeah.
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There's a personality type that is obsessed with getting you, and then once they have
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you, fuck off.
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Meaningless.
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You don't mean anything.
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That's the entire capture spiral.
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You get so much of that love bomb at first, and then it's all gone.
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Sure.
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There's some aspect of that.
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But then I also think that there is a...
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For Alex, I think it's less of that, and it's more like he was really useful in 2016, even
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into maybe in the 2020 time.
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I think during COVID, any port in a storm, people can use stuff like this.
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But because he did all that stuff, he doesn't really have use to Trump anymore.
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Absolutely.
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He's the guy who did all that stuff.
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Best to not be that guy in the present, because that guy only works in the past.
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So here's the thing.
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What's that?
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The green and Trump?
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Trump's kinda acting a little bit guilty.
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What?
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Can you believe it?
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This is unprecedented.
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So Alex even can't really deny that...
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Of course not!
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But he's not guilty like that.
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Of course not.
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She said, listen, you're making a mistake on Epstein.
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You need to do something.
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And Trump's gone crazy.
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So I'm just gonna say it.
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I have to.
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He's acting guilty.
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Now the corporate media will take that out.
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He's acting guilty.
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Jones says he's acting guilty.
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Jones turns around.
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No, there's nothing there.
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I'm an expert on this.
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All the victims say nothing.
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All the evidence.
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So why?
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Because they came to him and said, sure, it's the new Russiagate.
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They've sprinkled it all with disinfo about you.
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He's like, fine, move on.
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Is that what happened?
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Not good.
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Even if that is what happened, guilty.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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I mean, wild.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think the idea that he's like, boy, this behavior smells bad, but not that bad.
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That's Alex Jones.
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That's the thing.
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The media is going to take this out of context.
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Whatever I said, he's looking guilty.
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They're going to be like, oh, Alex says he's looking guilty, but I was only saying that
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he was looking guilty.
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Now he's looking not guilty.
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See, that's how it works.
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Come on.
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Jesus Christ.
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I went to an ad and Alex is doing some sales and I kept trying to get that green.
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Well, see?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I think she might be green, too.
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OK.
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But Alex gets a little bit distracted.
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And this is the fifth Flipblade we've had come in.
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And it's my personal favorite.
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And Scott's got some bare ones that are great, too.
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My problem is six hundred.
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I have a check, but I bet they're already sold out.
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The auction is where I come show a lot of supplements and things that sell out at the
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auction store.
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They'll still be over at real shows dot com because they hold back inventory there for
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that site.
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And that is a critical place for those of you want to support the broadcast at real
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shows dot com.
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So whether it's ultra methylene blue or there's the trilogy, the Irish Seamus.
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Yeah, there it is.
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H.D. shot.
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Look at that.
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That is a look.
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And what I like about it is.
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Wait, what is that black cockatoo?
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I know cockatoos are white, but look at it.
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Looks like a it looks like a bird.
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Like a little beak right there.
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But also looks like a bird right here that way to see.
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I really like it.
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I like a lot.
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I like it.
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I like it a lot.
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Sold.
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I'm going to buy this thing that looks like a bird.
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I feel OK if I'm up at two a.m. and I'm watching an infomercial and they're doing a whole thing
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and then all of a sudden they're like, we're going to bring on our knives guy right to
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sell these knives.
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We're going to we've only got an hour.
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These knives sell out always so fast.
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And then the knife guy comes out and he's just like, oh, this one looks like a bird.
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But also, but look at it.
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It looks like a bird this way, too.
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I just really like it.
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I just really like this knife.
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I think he's talking about seaweed or I'm not sure.
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I don't think he's even talking about the knife.
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It looks like a bird, but either way, I'm buying.
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So the other thing that I thought was interesting in there is he's saying that you should go
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to the real Alex Jones dot com as opposed to the Alex Jones store dot com.
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Right.
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As I was like, that's what he used to do in terms of the Alex Jones store and Info Wars
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store.
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Right.
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And that was because he doesn't own one of them.
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Right.
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And I think this has to be I have to believe that he gets a bigger cut from the real Alex
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Jones dot com.
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Sure.
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Bigly gets more from the Alex Jones store.
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Well, there's only one reason to push one one way and the other the other way.
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Right.
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Because it's all coming from the same thing.
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It's like one sells out and the other still has stock.
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No, it's all the same shit.
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They don't keep them in different warehouses.
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And yeah, no, it has to just be like a margin thing.
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And yeah, I can't.
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I can't imagine a situation where having multiple businesses with your name and saying that
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you don't own them is going to go well in a bankruptcy situation.
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Yeah, especially one that has real in it.
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Yeah, that one's real tough.
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I mean, but, you know, only in a court of law can something like that be meaningless.
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Yeah.
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So you got to give it up to them.
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Your honor, the real Alex Jones store is fake.
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Oh, so you can't call things real now without them being real.
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What are you going to do next?
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Are you going to take away my right to say fire in a crowded theater?
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Yeah.
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Hmm.
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So, Alex, he thinks that Trump there's a solution.
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Sure.
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Just go back in time.
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Well, maybe.
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And the only way you're ever going to get back in time is support Elon Musk.
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That makes sense.
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Because he might make a time machine.
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That sounds true.
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Elon Musk came in.
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Mark Mitchell and other top pollsters confirmed what I saw with the grassroots.
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He knows was super popular, doing an amazing job.
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There was some vestiges of the Republican Party, blue blood, a corrupt establishment
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left.
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And they were successful at running Elon Musk out.
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And you've seen things go downhill since then.
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I mean, Elon's ready to spend billions on U.S. elections, local elections, city, county,
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state, Senate elections.
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We need him.
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And now Trump's given him an ass head he wanted and backed off some and ain't enough.
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And it's the same crap.
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I get Trump's got to be super confident and just goes with his instincts.
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And that's good overall 90% of the time, but it's not some of the time.
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And I've been proven around the Epstein stuff.
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So it's interesting because one of Alex's main problems with the U.S. federal government
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in the past is that the president wasn't really the president.
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They were a figurehead and they were theoretically in charge.
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But decisions were made by committee.
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And all the expert advisers around the president were really the ones guiding the government.
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These were the unelected bureaucrats who formed the permanent government or the deep state.
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They were unaccountable to the public because they weren't voted into office and they had
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no ultimate loyalty to any political party or ideal since they knew that even with their
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side out of power, there's still money to be made somewhere in the government and in
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Washington.
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This is a huge selling point that Alex is used to excuse Trump's shittier behaviors.
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Sure, he may be a total asshole and he seems like he's freaking out at people on social
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media, but at least he's really in charge.
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We finally have an actual president, one who doesn't listen to the whispers of all the
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globalists around him, one who doesn't care what the international community says.
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For better or worse, he is the guy.
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The buck stops over there.
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The whole idea to cut through all the red tape, to do everything.
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A strong man, a man who is strong.
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But now, it seems like Alex is saying that Trump should listen to unelected bureaucracy
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and billionaires whose money they need to win elections.
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Like a weak man.
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It feels like it's a liability for Trump to be his own man and actually want to lead.
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He needs to let a committee lead.
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It just has to be a different kind of committee.
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And an unelected one.
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All of Alex's complaints about the elites and the unelected bureaucracy were never sincere.
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He never cared about the actual dynamics that these things imply and uphold, but they were
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very socially acceptable ways for him to attack the prevailing system without having to make
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it about what he actually cared about a lot, which is white Christian identity.
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He just wants a white Christian identity prioritizing establishment.
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He'd be totally fine with red tape and all that shit as long as he felt like white people
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had a special place in society.
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And he could practice his weird Christianity without people telling him it's weird.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, I bet, here's what I'll say, right?
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I bet if we did go back in time and talk to Alex before he was placed in a situation where
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he had to choose, he would absolutely say, I will die for my beliefs and all of that
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shit, right?
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Yes.
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It was only when he was put to the test that it was truly revealed he's a callow piece
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of shit.
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Yes.
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Right?
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I mean, it's like, it is hard to learn from that on a macro scale, but it does feel like
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there's something about if you haven't gone through that test and come out the other side,
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you shouldn't be trusted at all.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Or at least trust should be a slightly conditional thing.
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Sure.
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You know, like there should be a, eh, we'll see about this.
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Right, right, right.
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But I think that you can easily also take the wrong lesson from this, which is a little
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bit nihilistic and like think that, oh, everyone will fail that test.
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And I don't believe that's true.
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I agree.
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I think that looking back on Alex's career, he talked a lot of good stuff in a lot of
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ways, but he was pretty obviously exactly the type of person who would give up on what,
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you know, like a lot of the core principle.
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Absolutely.
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If it meant maintaining some of these other things that are more visceral and emotional
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for him.
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Totally.
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No, I mean, I think that's the nihilistic point of view is not that there aren't any
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people who would pass the test.
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It's that none of those people will ever be in positions to validate it.
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You know?
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Maybe.
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That's the thing.
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People keep wanting the person who hasn't passed the test, you know?
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Because maybe they will give them more.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, who knows?
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But I think that Alex is a real sad man.
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Yeah, that's definitely true.
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Real hollow piece of business.
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So he talks a bit more about the Marjorie Taylor Greene situation.
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I'm sorry, Marjorie Taylor Brown.
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Nice.
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It's growing on me.
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He says that what Trump is doing is bad.
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Great.
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And so MTG is like, no, I think for all these women abused, we need to bring it out.
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I don't think Trump's in there, but I don't know what he's doing.
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And then she's now released the text messages that pissed Trump off.
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And she's like, hey, the Clintons are in there, man.
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The deep state, they did it.
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You got to go after them.
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And he comes out and says, well, she's gone crazy.
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She's crazy MTG.
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And I'm going to support whoever your primaries her.
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Terrible.
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Absolutely terrible.
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So this is as big as saying you disavow your supporters that want Epstein investigated.
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Really?
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Yes.
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So not involved with Epstein being illegal, but now involved with the cover up now flipping
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out when they double crossed you, the Democrats.
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So now you want them criminally investigated.
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Good, good.
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Now you're on the right track.
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See, I told you.
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So.
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He's calling Thomas Massey of Kentucky and MTG of Georgia, who are good Americans, real
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people who don't compromise like Ron Paul.
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Trump calls Massey the mini me of not accomplishing Paul.
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That's right.
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Overall supports Trump.
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But hey, we're not a cult.
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This is wrong.
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You're doing here on some issues.
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And then Trump has all these people around.
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Oh, yeah.
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Get ostracized and kick them out.
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Primary.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's just like Magas gone crazy with cash Patel using his girlfriend as the front.
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His law firm, FBI law firm suing Carl Serra, the FBI whistleblower who they said was a
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hero now they hate him and suing Elijah Shafer.
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Getting a little distracted here.
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But the step that Alex can't make is that Trump is making all of this happen.
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He appointed cash Patel, a known lunatic, to be the FBI director because he knew that
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it would cause chaos and make law enforcement targeting the higher class criminals a joke.
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He could fire him at any point if cautious official or personal issues become a problem
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for Trump.
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And he hasn't yet.
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And there aren't people forcing Trump to threaten to sport primary challenges against
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Massey and MTG.
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He's doing that because that's how he acts.
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He threatens enemies and Massey and Green have made themselves his enemy by not just
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dropping the Epstein shit.
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The only refuge Alex has left to justify any of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is to
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deflect and pretend that it's someone else's fault.
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He's just calling MTG a traitor because someone else told him a warped version of what she
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said.
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He's just threatening to help primary the Republicans who made the Epstein Transparency
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Act happen because other people are telling him to.
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Alex knows that the only correct position is to burn Trump and get off this sinking
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ship but for whatever reason he can't do that.
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So he's trying to create the impression that he's being critical of Trump by leveling up
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very shallow criticisms against him, blaming other people for Trump's actions, and then
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saying that people shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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This is a genre of criticism that is actually support in disguise.
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It's a deflectionary criticism that is meant to make you forget why you're mad.
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Yeah.
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I mean it's essentially the idea of controlled opposition within that kind of criticism is
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like, oh, see, look, we can disagree.
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Now admittedly at the end of the day, my point is I will do and say anything it takes to
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keep this man in power.
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Right.
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And the only way that I can give the appearance of like, um, sort of peaceful disagreement
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is by making an entirely different point than has anything to do with what we're actually
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talking about.
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Yeah.
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We're talking about Trump fucking blowing up Marjorie Taylor Greene because she wouldn't
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stop it with the Epstein stuff.
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I mean, here's what boggles my mind because it makes me think that people can't, uh, think,
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right?
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It feels like a lot of people are like, ah, now that he's president, he'll change his
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behavior when it's like, why?
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His behavior made him the president of the United States.
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That suggests that it's usually pretty useful as a tool if it makes you the president of
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the United States.
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So why in God's name would I do something different like you, not the president of the
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United States?
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Yeah.
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Loser.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Like how does that not make sense to people?
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Of course he's going to burn you.
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Right.
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And it's a strategy that's effective and he's used his whole life.
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Right.
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And Alex even understands this.
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I mean, listen to him describe his tactics.
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And now doing this to MTG and I know Trump's tactics.
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He'll be mean to somebody for a while.
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Then they course correct.
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He's nice to him.
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She ain't going to course correct her.
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She doesn't want to be a darling on Bill Maher in the view when she went on bill Maher and
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he said, I love Trump overall.
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He's great.
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I just want to do better on these policies.
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I'm trying to help him.
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You call her nutty.
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You call her crazy.
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You do all that.
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No, no.
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What you're doing is destructive.
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What you're doing is wrong.
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And I'll defend you all day when you're right.
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Just like I just did for two hours.
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But I need you to succeed.
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Big guy.
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And so you're going to get no apologies for me.
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If you don't like what Massey's doing or she's doing some things, just leave it alone.
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Just shut up.
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Don't be in the like, it's just the cover up thing again.
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Don't shut up.
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But what Alex is describing about Trump's tactics is just bullying.
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And he's correctly assessing that pretty much everyone in his political movement is vulnerable
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to being bullied, which is why this has worked.
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But MTG is not.
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Dweebs like Ted Cruz and Mike Johnson, they're the kind of figures who you can give them
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a good smack when they get out of line and they'll be right back to calling you, sir.
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You bet.
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But it is clear that Marjorie Taylor Greene is not in for that right now.
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She may be around other issues, but this one, it's not going to happen.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the thing about it is at the end of the day, these people are going to fall in
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line.
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So if Marjorie Taylor shit face falls out of line, who fucking cares?
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Somebody who is going to fall in line will just take her place.
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Sure.
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And it doesn't matter.
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Right.
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Well, yeah, I guess someone who will go along will come along or a Democrat could win her
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seat, which seems unlikely.
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Probably.
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But like, you know, whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
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And that's why I think that like her decision to not allow herself to be bullied is good
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for her brand, her personal brand.
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It's the right decision to make.
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Sure.
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Like in terms of all of this, there is, there's no way you're going to fight back and like
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unseat the entire bully worshiping side of the government.
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Well, and that's the only way to negotiate herself to a higher position is to prove that
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unlike these other guys, she's willing to step away from the table.
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Because again, the other people at the end of the day have no negotiating position.
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You're going to fall in line.
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It's like back in the day, Cody Rhodes, son of Dusty Rhodes was working at WWE.
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Yep.
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He was made to be Stardust, a crazy space character.
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And he said, nah, I'm outta here.
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He left the company, made a name for himself on the Indies.
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And then that's how power grew.
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Now you've got bargaining.
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Exactly.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene needs to become Stardust.
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I agree with that.
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Yes.
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Because then she will definitely not be Brown.
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I'd like to see her do a match with Dustin Rhodes.
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Okay.
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I'd like to see her.
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She's wiry though.
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She looks like she doesn't have much, but she's got long limbs.
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She's got a long reach and it feels like she's got some forearm muscles, you know?
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I bet she could do some damage.
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Sure.
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Her ground game is probably shit.
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Well, I mean, look, what do you, what do you, do you think she she's a high flyer?
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She's gonna do a hurricane run?
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I think she's a top rope lady.
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I think that's what we're...
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Shooting star press?
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Absolutely.
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Um, so Alex, uh, like, I think that there is a desire to be on Marjorie Taylor Greene's
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side.
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Sure.
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But Alex is really too afraid.
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Of course.
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He can't really make it work.
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And he makes a big mistake.
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Uh, and that is he starts reading the texts that she released.
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Oh no.
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So she put out these text messages and said, this is when he really got pissed.
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Back to flight logs of Epstein's plane, Bill Clinton on there like 26 times, Hillary too,
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for many of us, at least the Epstein files has always been for the women who are victims.
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She said the same thing on the air of Jeffrey Epstein, but also because we believe that
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Democrat bad guys, that the Clintons will...
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Involve with him.
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What happened there sounds a lot like sketchier than it is.
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He just tripped up on the word entangled because it was split between two lines in the text
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message.
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And so he just got confused.
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Gotcha.
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Epstein was a spider that wove the web of the deep state.
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Lean into it.
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In every single interview I have done, I have defended president Trump.
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I've said over and over again, the women say he did nothing wrong.
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And their attorney says he's the only one who helped.
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The Democrats had four years to release the files, but did nothing.
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Stop ignoring the women.
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Many of them literally voted for Trump because...
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And to say so publicly.
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Yeah, like, why would you do this and hurt yourself and the country?
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Why would you do something like this?
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It's just terrible, Trump.
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Lightweight Congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene, green grass turns brown when it's
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is to rot, betrayed the entire Republican Party when she turned left, performed poorly
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on the pathetic view and became the rhino that we all know she's always was.
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But not Lindsey Graham.
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Just another fake politician.
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Why do they have J.D. Vance in the new South Park having sex with Trump?
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He's like a baby to us, like pedophilic.
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Because they're scared of ants.
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What?
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Why didn't South Park do one with Trump and Lindsey Graham?
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Instead of Satan getting pregnant from Trump, Lindsey Graham is going to have the anti-grass
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with Trump.
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That's a good note.
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Oh, see, South Park doesn't want to attack Lindsey Graham.
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As Alex is cold reading these texts and Trump's response, he's kind of realizing on air that
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this is way worse than he thought.
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He got a basic storyline in place that he felt that he could sell based on general vibes,
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but he forgot to check the primary sources before getting on air.
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Forgot is a very generous term.
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No, because I think he sounds a little surprised.
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There really isn't a way to see MTG's actions and Trump's response and not think, wow, that's
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a strange response for an innocent person to have.
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If Trump's not hiding something really bad, his actions seem pretty weird.
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Alex made a mistake by reading this stuff, and in the moment he tries to save the ship
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by complaining about Lindsey Graham and South Park.
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I think that Lindsey Graham isn't all that relevant right now, just big picture, so a
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broad satirical comedy show doesn't really have a place for him in the story.
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J.D. Vance isn't really a baby on the show.
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He's very clearly tattooed from Fantasy Island, and some of the baby imagery that Alex is
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alluding to is because he's really short and Trump wears a diaper in their love scene.
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Right, right, right, gotcha.
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Either way, what's happening on Alex's show right there is that he's realized that the
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information he's presented requires him to have a particular stance and that he cannot
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have that stance.
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The stance he needs to have is MTG is just and righteous as a voice fighting against
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the sex traffickers in the globalist cabal, and Trump is clearly attacking her for pursuing
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that, which can only mean that Trump is on the side of the sex traffickers in the cabal.
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Alex cannot have this position, so he chooses a distraction path.
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Trump called MTG a rhino, so he riffs on Lindsey Graham being a rhino, not Marjorie Taylor
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Greene.
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This is a horrible distraction path because it reminds people that Trump is currently
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being very nice to Lindsey Graham and not calling him a rhino, whereas he is attacking
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MTG and calling her that.
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Alex instinctually understands that this path goes in a bad direction and makes Trump
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look worse, so he starts rambling about South Park and how they're not making fun of Lindsey
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Graham because the globalists aren't afraid of him the same way they are of Vance.
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And so he continues on this riff, hoping to distract you from where it started.
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Oh, see, South Park doesn't want to attack Lindsey Graham.
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President Trump, have you impregnated Lindsey Graham with the anti-Christ?
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President Trump, have you been with Lindsey Graham in the Lincoln bedroom?
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Is he like Rosemary's baby, chest dating the anti-Christ right now?
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Inquiring minds want to know, President Trump, are you secretly in a relationship with Lindsey
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Graham?
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That's a joke, folks.
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Fuck off.
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Corporate media will take it and run with it.
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That's fine.
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Fuck you.
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My point is, is politically Trump is in bed with a goblin.
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My famous rant, pull up Alex Jones' rant in bed with a goblin.
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They made music videos out of everything.
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Pull up Alex Jones' goblin music video.
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And I explained as a Mordor analogy, we don't expect Trump going into Mordor to not get
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some goblin blood and slop and vomit on him while he's cutting him up.
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What?
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We don't want to catch him kissing a goblin or catch him in bed with a goblin.
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And in the case of Lindsey Graham, we have caught President Trump politically in bed
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with a goblin.
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And as bad as it is, it may be Trump that's pregnant with the anti-Christ sired by Lindsey
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Graham.
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President Trump's colon right now may be growing the anti-Christ.
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A combination of Trump and Lindsey Graham and the neo-cons.
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In fact, this is a polyamory.
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So just to be clear to anybody who's not watching the current season of South Park, a large
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part of the plot is that Donald Trump is dating Satan and he has impregnated Satan.
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He's going to give birth to the anti-Christ and J.D. Vance is trying to get an abortion
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to happen to stop the anti-Christ from being born.
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And J.D. Vance and Trump fucked.
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We're going with a new kind of ironic, sincere obviousness that is maybe not going to work
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very well.
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Sure, but I'm just saying if you hear this stuff and you haven't watched those episodes,
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that makes no sense.
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What Alex is saying makes no sense.
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That's fair.
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Of him having the anti-Christ's baby in his colon and all that.
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That is fair.
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So keep in mind, this whole thing, this conversation, it started with Alex reading texts that Marjorie
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Taylor Greene sent to Trump and the beginning of Trump's response to her.
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The topic that's on the table is Trump calling Marjorie Taylor Greene a traitor because she
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wouldn't leave the Epstein stuff alone.
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And because Alex has realized that this is an unspinable situation, he's decided to delve
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into a completely unrelated gripe about Lindsey Graham full of distractions like people making
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songs about his famous goblin rant.
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Through this diversion, Alex feels like he's come to a conclusion that seems like it's
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criticizing Trump.
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He's been caught in bed with a goblin in the form of Lindsey Graham, which is supposed
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to be the line that Alex can't accept him crossing.
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But this is why it's important with a bullshit artist like Alex to keep track of what he's
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saying.
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He's finding this negative thing to say about Trump because it's really a negative thing
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about somebody else.
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It's an attack on Graham, and Trump's only crime is associating with him.
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Trump can correct this by being mean to Lindsey Graham, and then Alex's audience should be
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fully placated.
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Done and done.
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It's meaningless criticism.
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Conversely, the thing Alex is trying to distract from is that he accidentally made it way too
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clear on air that Trump is acting like someone personally invested in covering up the Epstein
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stuff.
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He's acting guilty, and not in the way Alex wants to pretend.
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So even if he has to do this very funny riff about Trump impregnating Lindsey Graham, that's
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preferable to the audience remembering what topic we're actually discussing.
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Because it started really bad and entered unsavable territory.
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This is all distraction and deflection.
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Yeah, I mean, I get it.
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To a certain extent, I think a lot of people really, really want distraction from this
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kind of thing.
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Because it's impossible not to look at the government as it stands, filled with both
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parties, protecting Epstein's friends.
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And not be like, well, if powerful people on all party sides, in every aspect of government
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are like, we don't want everybody to know what we've done, that's pretty disillusioning
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as far as who should be in government.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I don't know what to say, but yep.
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Yep.
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What you gonna do?
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What I am gonna do is I am going to let Alex help us understand.
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That's what I'm gonna do.
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That would be nice.
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Yeah, let's see.
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Let's see where he goes.
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My point is politically, Trump is doing what the neocons are doing, going after his own
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party for being true and trying to keep on the straight and narrow.
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And that's wrong.
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We take you now live to the year 2016.
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As the President Elect Trump is about to take office, we said we don't expect you to not
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get dirty, but just don't kiss goblins and don't get in bed with a goblin.
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I don't want to see him kissing goblins.
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Well you know this is a serious criticism.
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Goblins, goblins.
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Yep.
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Nice.
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I would like it.
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I would like it because here's what I think.
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I think that would open up goblin relations in a way that we haven't seen since Nixon
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in China.
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You know, like goblins aren't inherently evil.
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They live in the mountains.
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They kind of keep to themselves.
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And if you show up, maybe they eat you, but it's their home.
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If they come to your home, they're not going to eat you.
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Right.
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They might eat you.
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Stand your ground.
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Right, right, right.
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Eat your ground laws.
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Eat your ground laws.
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Here's a couple things.
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One, goblins aren't real.
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Sure.
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If they were, I would agree with you.
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Yeah, okay.
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Well that's nice.
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Thank you.
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I also, because I've listened to this stupid fucking show for a long time, I've heard about
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50 times Alex has said, alright, he's kissing a goblin this time.
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He keeps doing this and pretending that Trump isn't constantly doing goblin stuff.
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And I think goblins have a queen, so that's fairly progressive.
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They don't exist.
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Right.
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I understand what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Neither does the sword that lights up when they're around.
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Shit.
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I was headed there next, man.
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What about the spider?
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Yeah, the spider's real.
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Okay, good.
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Too real.
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Too real.
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And by that I mean, he'll just tell you truths that you don't want to hear.
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He's too real.
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No!
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Oh, shit about your family and stuff.
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Yeah.
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Oh, your mom was actually your sister.
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You're like, no!
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Right, right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But even stuff like, your mom doesn't have your best interests at heart.
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Just regular stuff.
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And you know they're right.
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You know it's true.
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You know it's true.
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Yeah.
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There's no looking away from the truth and you don't necessarily want to know it.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes you need to lie to yourself to get through the day.
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And that's why you gotta avoid that cave.
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You gotta avoid that fucking spider.
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Yeah.
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What a dick.
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So, Alex plays a bit of the South Park episode.
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Sure, why not?
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Why fucking not?
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Fox News is live at the White House.
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Oh, hey.
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So what's happened in the episode is that Peter Thiel has bugged the White House.
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Sure.
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And so he has video, like surveillance videos of everything.
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Right.
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So he has leaked video of Trump and Vance fucking.
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Right.
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And also the B-plot of this episode is that there's a war going on between the boys and
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girls at the school because of deepfake AI videos that they can make of each other.
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Right.
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That makes sense.
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So this footage of the two of them fucking has been released and Fox News is being forced
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to cover that sex video.
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Uh oh.
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Definitely disheartening news here.
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Why the president would do this to Satan with the baby on the way.
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We don't know.
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If it's anyone's guess why.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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We got to interrupt you there.
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Uh, we just got word that the president is calling into Fox and Friends.
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Are you there, sir?
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That's enough.
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I mean, this is all they got folks.
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But in reality, spiritually, he's out of bed with MGG more and more in the American people
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and he's in bed with Benjamin Netanyahu and Lindsey Graham.
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So in the episode, Trump calls into the Fox and Friends and just tells them that it's
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fake and the joke of it is that they're all really sad reporting on this video.
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And then he says it's fake and then it totally changed.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Of course.
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Everyone just goes fully along with him just saying it's fake.
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Yep.
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And so it's kind of funny because that's like what Alex does.
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Right.
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And he's probably pretty fucking aware of that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But that's all they got.
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This is all they got is.
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That's all they got.
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That's a pretty funny way of, uh, I, okay.
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I would say this.
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Previous This Is All They Gots have included Tansu, right?
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This Is All They Got is the president is fucking Satan and other topical things.
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No, well, it's less about him fucking Satan.
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It's more about him cheating on Satan with J.D. Vance while there's a baby on the way.
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That's a little bit better.
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Not everybody knows that it's the Antichrist.
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That's a little bit better than Tansu.
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A lot of the American public just thinks it's a baby and they're very excited.
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Well, I mean, they would be.
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That's kind of how the Antichrist would work.
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He wouldn't he wouldn't be like you would.
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We all wouldn't be like, ah, shit, we caught him.
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You know, he's got to be pretty cool.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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I get the I get the idea of Alex not fully enjoying South Park.
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And I think that he has like some reason from much earlier in his career to think that those
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guys would be cool with him.
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Yeah.
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Because I think they would have been cool with him.
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Right.
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In like 2005, 2006.
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I think who he pretended to be back then.
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Right.
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Was in line with what the South Park guys were when they were younger.
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Right.
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When all three of them were pretending to be libertarians, a word they didn't really
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understand at the time.
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And now here we are.
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And the two of them have grown up and matured in some strange ways.
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And Alex has become a piece of shit.
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This.
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Oh, well.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to give you a choice.
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All right.
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There's a death.
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No.
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Oh, OK.
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Sorry.
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There is a clip about a bio weapon.
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OK.
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It's two minutes long.
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Do you want to hear it?
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You can or not?
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Is the bio weapon going to be revealed to be a dick?
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It rhymes with dick.
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Now I have to play it because I said so.
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There we go.
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Rimming.
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Now here is the scientists.
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Remember the bioethicists.
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They teach us the ethics of science and medical stuff.
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Matthew.
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Lyle called for the bioengineering of humans to make them allergic to meat.
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And exactly the matter caused by the Lone Star tick.
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He said this should be done to save the planet from climate change because cows are back
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as they fart methane.
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You fart methane.
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And they've also said in public service announcements in the UK and Europe, we need to ban your
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dog and cat because they're bad, too.
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So it's not just natural gas and oil and get rid of its everything.
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It's total control teaching you carbon based life is bad.
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And so now it's here at all.
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We better not eat beef.
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Oh, God.
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You get bit by this tick.
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You all die.
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And who knows how they'll get this into us, not just a tick.
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They can fly over and spray this on you.
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And then now you have this autoimmune response that you violently kill or kills you.
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And now you can't eat beef.
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You can see the plan.
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It's bio weapon attack.
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And why is Bill Gates still not in prison?
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So here he is bragging about the plan announced here.
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So I'll give two examples.
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So one is that people eat too much meat.
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And if they were to cut down on their consumption on meat, then it would actually really help
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the planet.
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But people are not willing to give up meat.
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Some people will be willing to, but other people, they may be willing to, but they have
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a weakness of will.
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They say, wow, this steak is just too juicy.
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I can't do it.
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I'm one of those, by the way.
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So here's a thought.
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So it turns out that we know a lot about, so we have this intolerance to, so I, for
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example, I have milk intolerance.
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And there some people are intolerant to crayfish.
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So possibly we can use human engineering to make it the case that we're intolerant to
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certain kinds of meat, to certain kinds of bovine proteins.
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And there's actually analogs of this in life.
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There's this thing called the long star tick where if it bites you, you will become allergic
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to meat.
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And I can sort of describe the mechanism.
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So that's something that we can do through human engineering.
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We can kind of possibly address really big world problems through human engineering.
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Another.
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Yeah.
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The same guy says they can genetically engineer babies to make a smaller and so we don't eat
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as much.
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Maybe we can live in a shoebox.
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These guys are on a total absolute control freak operation.
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We want tiny people.
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We want shoebox people.
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I mean, listen, I normally, I never am against pushing the limits of bio-fucking around with
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people, right?
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But this is the worst idea.
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And if this guy is a bioethicist, he should be shot into the sun.
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What are you talking about?
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Well, I think he's discussing a possibility for people who would like to give up meat,
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but are tempted and would want to give themselves some kind of incentive not to eat.
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It's still all within the realm of choice.
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Not like forcing people to become allergic to meat.
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I'm sure that they would never be done.
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Right.
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But I'm also-
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I'm sure that chemically they would never just castrate people without their knowledge.
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On a wide scale?
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They would never.
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I guess wide is relative.
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Bummer, bummer.
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Ooh.
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Yeah.
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But I'm more worried about that other thing.
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Sure.
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About tiny people.
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See, that's the thing.
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I go the opposite.
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I love tiny people.
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I'm all for tiny people.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Okay.
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Well, I was digging into it.
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Okay.
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And these ideas, they go back a ways.
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Oh yeah?
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There was a little old lady who lived in a shoe.
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Ooh.
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And the plan's been there the whole time.
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It has been there the whole time.
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And I don't know where that comes from.
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Folklore?
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I don't know.
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I believe it's just a child's nursery rhyme.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Predictive programming.
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Right, right, right.
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Trying to get the kids used to the idea of living in a shoe in order to give- they have
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to give consent because they didn't argue with the nursery rhyme.
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All right.
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Here's another one.
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This is bullshit, right?
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We have been trained since children to believe that an authority figure falling from a great
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height should be put back together again.
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Mm-hmm.
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Bullshit.
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That egg should be fucking dead.
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I hate this putting shit back together again.
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Well, hold on now.
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What was Humpty Dumpty's role?
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Because I don't know if he was an authority figure.
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It was the king's men who tried to put him back together.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, I mean, I just assumed that the king's men wouldn't just be like putting eggs back
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together all the time.
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That he was the king.
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Right.
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I mean, he's a sentient egg, right?
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That's what I'm saying.
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I didn't want him to be king in the first place.
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He's not a king.
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That seems like a terrible idea.
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He's not a sentient egg king.
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I'm saying that the king had one sentient egg in his kingdom, and that's why he put
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special attention on trying to put it back together.
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It does seem implicit.
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I get where you're coming from, but from a standpoint of training children, I think it's
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the wrong message.
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Do you think Humpty Dumpty was like a duke?
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Oh man.
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See, now I struggle.
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I would say that it's harder to rhyme duke, so I doubt it.
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Puke.
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Cuke.
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That doesn't, none of those seem like they're fit for a nursery rhyme.
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Cucumber.
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Little cuke.
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You're going to say cuke.
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No.
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Nuke.
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Stand by cuke.
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Nuke.
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What's nuke going to do in your nursery rhyme?
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Oh, well, I mean.
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You could be talking about a microwave.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I think we're still talking about the egg though.
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Mm-hmm.
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Do you want to microwave the egg?
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I don't think you can.
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Can you microwave the egg?
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You can.
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You can microwave the egg.
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I saw a product on an infomercial that explains just that.
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Is it a knife that looks like a bird?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex, the one thing that I want to really stress
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about his response, particularly to everything in the Epstein shit, but with Marjorie Taylor
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Greene is this is all deflectionary.
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Trump can't take any responsibility for any of the things that are happening.
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So Alex tries to be like, I guess the Trump administration is fucking us, but not Trump.
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He's good.
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And so now you've got Patel going after manga.
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You've got Trump purging MTG.
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This is a horrible turn of events.
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This is a manga civil war, not against rhinos, but against the real people that can't be
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bought or controlled.
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So remember, Trump is still doing overall good job.
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We support it, but we don't rise and fall with Trump.
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Populism is winning everywhere.
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We fight on Trump showed up on the scene 10 years ago.
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We've been here 31 years.
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I need your support.
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It's selling out right now by my knife.
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Yeah.
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So I mean like if populism rises and falls with or without Trump, then y'all need to
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get rid of him.
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I mean, come on.
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This is very, it's, I mean, it's just rising to the level of pure silliness.
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Just the, the like, at what point is it even possible to do this anymore?
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Like he's, he's doing everything.
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He's been, he's been escalating over the time that we've been watching this.
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He's slowly been more and more willing to just be like, yes, it's obvious.
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Trump's doing a cover up.
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But, but you know, like he's, he's been doing that and it's like, at what point can you
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literally not do that anymore?
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I think it's, I think everyone's different, you know, like I, I agree, but I wonder is,
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is there a universal bottom?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would say so.
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Okay.
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I would, I would, I would, I would say that there will be a point at which anyone who
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tries to walk across ice will fall.
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Will fall.
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Okay.
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Like not, it's not going to be every time you walk across ice, but if you keep walking
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on ice, eventually you're going to, you're going to fall through that ice.
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Especially if a lot of people walk on the same ice.
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Right.
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And if it's bad ice.
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Yeah.
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If it's Trump ice.
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Yeah.
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Trump branded ice.
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I think that the, one of the reasons that I think it is inevitable is that Alex is doing
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this wrong.
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Sure.
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There is a way to do this, but he has to have never admitted that Trump was in on the cover
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up.
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Yeah.
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Once he made that step, the, Oh, the billionaires came to him and asked him to do this.
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And so he got in on the cover up and now it's blowing up in his face.
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Right.
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And so once he exceeded that kind of a point, everything else is like this bizarre spiraling
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idiot like rationalization of things.
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Yeah.
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And then every other person who's acting in ways that they should like Nick Fuentes, like
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Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of these people existing just highlight how stupid Alex is.
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Yeah.
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And so that I think is the, the like push and pull tension that is going to cause the
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break.
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Yeah.
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You know, behaved a little bit differently, gas lit a little bit harder at the right place.
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Yeah.
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I think that he'd, he'd have a thicker ice to walk on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There is that, there is that thing where for, there's a certain type of person that never
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takes responsibility for anything.
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Trump.
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You know, like exactly, you know, it's always somebody else's fault.
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It's always somebody else did something.
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It's always somebody else.
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Even when it's my fault, it's only because of them.
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So it's not even me.
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If they weren't there, I wouldn't have done it.
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Right.
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I don't have to take responsibility for that.
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And as long as you don't have to take responsibility for it, you can do whatever you want.
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Right.
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Cause it's everybody else's fault.
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But once you have one thing that you did, it all falls apart from there.
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Yeah.
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Cause that is, cause a doing of a thing leads to another doing leads to another doing.
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And the problem of this for Alex is that he has done a thing in like, okay, whether or
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not Trump agreed to be part of this coverup, Alex has done a thing, which is not leave.
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That is not his breaking point.
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And that is an active decision on his part that I'm sure he wants to disguise as a passive
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decision, but it's not.
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And yeah, that requires him to do other things and do other things.
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And yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Once you, once you do something, then, you know, like once Trump was, once Trump really
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was like, Hey, fuck all you people who are still looking for Epstein, then it's like,
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it's no longer, you can blame other people.
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He said, fuck all of you.
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He did that.
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So everything that did follows from that point, you know, every action follows from that point.
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You can't blame somebody else.
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Somebody else didn't write the tweet, you know?
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Right.
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And, and, uh, like you should conceivably expect similar kinds of things to be done
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by him in the future.
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Every time.
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As long as he can.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Once he can't, maybe he won't.
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Right.
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But as long as he can, he's going to keep doing that kind of shit.
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It's made him the president.
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And you have nothing to offer in terms of an incentive to get him to stop.
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Yeah.
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Alex can yell all he wants.
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He could do all this, he could do whatever dumb shit he wants.
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He could even say, Hey, Trump, you're the best.
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Uh, please, sir, could you please just not do anything?
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Yeah.
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If he could just please shut up about this cover up, that wouldn't do anything.
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He could kill Roger and it wouldn't do anything.
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Yep.
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He's just, he's, it is, it is a pure lack of understanding that it's just him and his
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audience now.
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Yep.
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He just doesn't get that.
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Which is freeing.
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It should be freeing.
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It's freeing for us.
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It's just us.
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They don't even, he doesn't even talk about us.
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It's just us and the audience listening to us.
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There's nobody else involved.
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Yeah, he talks to others.
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He talks shit about other podcasters, but not us.
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We're not real.
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I think that he should lean into that freedom.
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Yeah.
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But he doesn't.
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Nope.
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And it's sad.
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Freedom is a fear.
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Yeah.
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We'll see, we'll see when this ice cracks, when it breaks, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Or, Hey, you know what?
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Maybe the Duke boy will get out of it.
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Maybe that General Lee can slide on it.
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Maybe you put some skis on the General Lee and it goes right across the ice real smooth.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, we'll find out how it goes.
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Indeed.
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And again, uh, next installment, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Woo.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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