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parks.
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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Ahh!
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Need, need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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Well my bright spot originally was going to be
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how all good things come to an end.
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Sure.
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And we're on, the new episode, the next episode of MacGyver is no good.
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No good.
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It was boring.
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Just you guys, a friend who's doing wild cat drilling.
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Sure.
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Ends up blowing up his oil rig so they have to go and get TNT to blow it up to put out the fire.
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Yeah, okay.
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I do like that they call themselves Hell Fighters.
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Like instead of firefighters.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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That's fun.
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Escalation is nice, yeah.
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Yeah but the episode stunk.
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It was real boring.
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Yeah.
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How many smooches?
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Oil rig smooches?
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Here's the thing.
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None I think.
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None you think.
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I did really stop paying attention in the last about five minutes of the episode.
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Right.
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So it's possible that he ends up smooching the lady whose husband he's helping.
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Sure, sure.
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Like if she dies, he might have died at the end of the episode.
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Right, right, right.
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I just wasn't paying attention.
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They just move on together.
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Yeah, it was just too boring to even care about smooches.
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Brutal.
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But thankfully you showed up and zzzzep in the mailbag.
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What did we find?
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But nice coat from George.
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I mean...
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George!
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George!
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Amazing coat.
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Fucking asshole sending me a coat?
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Here's the thing.
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We were all teed up to be like, of course you can't just send somebody a coat.
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You don't know your size.
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You don't know what's going on.
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I've got a weird body.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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This is all...
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We were all set up to be like, please don't send any more coats.
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It was funny as a bit.
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This would fucking work.
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It's, there's a very strange thing that happened that it fits very nicely and it looks good.
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It looks great on you.
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It looks so good on you.
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So anyway, George, thank you.
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Yeah, George, you fucking nailed it, buddy.
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You had no idea how good you did.
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Kind of hoping for another six months or so of Dan get a coat, will they, won't they kind
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of tension, but I'll take a coat.
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No, this is a marriage right here.
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We're going to see you in this coat for 10 years.
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It's possible.
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So thank you.
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That's very nice.
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Absolutely.
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is this show, Physical Asia.
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If you recall, do you remember Physical 100?
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Okay, well the Koreans know how to make competition reality shows where super ripped hot people
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do competitions with each other to see who's the biggest, right?
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And so they...
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They're physical.
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Yeah, they upped their game from just the 100 most ripped Korean people to a bunch of
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teams from all around Asia.
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And then Australia also has a team.
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Okay.
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And it's great.
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It's fantastic.
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What sort of contests are they doing?
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You know, just like lifting weights, doing sit ups and shit.
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You know, it's like just general fitness-y stuff.
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Is it strongman type competitions, like throwing a boulder over your head?
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Not fully.
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There is some of that, but it's more geared towards the fitness aspect.
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Endurance.
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There's some agility.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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The quick people have their advantages.
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The thin people have their advantages.
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But then there's something that's extremely unfair, which is that Australia has the world's
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strongest man on their team, which I think is unfair.
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You can't have the world's strongest man.
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Yeah.
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If that's what the competition is about, it kind of decides things in advance, doesn't it?
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In any contest of strength, you got to feel like maybe the guy who's the number one strongman
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is going to win it.
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Are you talking about Mark Henry?
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Are you talking about Sexual Chocolate?
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No, although I recall those days.
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Didn't he go up against Magnus Magnusson or those guys?
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I don't think so.
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Oh, okay.
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He was a pro wrestler.
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He was in the nation of domination.
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No, I was thinking about a different guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, he was partnered with D'Lo Brown for a long time.
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All right.
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That sounds fun.
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Fun wrestler.
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Yeah.
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I'm glad you're enjoying the show.
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It's great.
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One of the best things is that the first episode is just introducing all of the teams from
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all the different countries.
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It's so exciting.
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It's like the start of Mortal Kombat.
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You're like, oh shit, these people are coming out with their flags and shit.
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Oh, it's fantastic.
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Do they have team themes?
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Absolutely.
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But not like the Warriors.
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Not just like the flag or not like the...
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No, no, no.
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There's not like, we're the baseball bat Indonesians.
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No, no, no.
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Not quite that.
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I wish.
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But there's definitely like cultural, like we're clearly from this kind of culture and
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this is how we represent in this kind of...
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It's great.
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It's fantastic.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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I'll give it a twist.
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Give it a shot.
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Now that my mouth is all soured on MacGyver.
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Can't do it.
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I'll give him another shot.
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All right.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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All right.
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It is not the world's strongest episode, but it's something.
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And we'll get down to it here in a second.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, shout out to Kissing Kit with the Fresh Fit Crit.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And my other car is a gambling addiction.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And Huey, Newest, and the Loos.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a second credit in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to passenger princess Davina.
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You're the greatest thing since spreading the thighs of Americana.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an Iowa technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So Jordan, I think that there's been a number of goals
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we've had doing this show.
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Sure.
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There's been a let's understand Alex Jones better.
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Sure.
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Let's find out what he believes.
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Right.
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And then I think lately there's been one goal that has taken over my mind.
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Let's steal his watches?
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No.
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That is a nice little side thing.
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We need to get you superpowers.
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Yeah.
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Oh, fuck me.
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Oh, is this one going to be a bad one?
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Well, see, we listened to a bit of Tucker Carlson, and we've theorized that there is
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a point at which you will grow so frustrated by listening to something.
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I'll dead pool it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It will be your weapon X moment program.
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I can't remember that guy's name still.
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It's my favorite X file is Logan.
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That's right.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So it didn't work.
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We listened to a fair amount of Tucker's show.
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No powers manifested.
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Nope.
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And so I thought, well, obviously that means you don't have any superpowers.
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There's nothing here.
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Yeah.
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But then I realized we have to change the variable a little bit.
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Okay.
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Maybe Tucker is not the frequency that's going to frustrate you enough to get those superpowers
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active.
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Okay.
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So we're talking about tuning into the correct frequency of tone to allow me to explode with
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Hulkness.
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Right.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, it's worth exploring.
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Absolutely.
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Why not?
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So here's a little out of context drop from today's show.
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All right.
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They're trying to crash the economy right now.
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They're trying to crash the stock market.
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Is that what's happening?
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Oh, yeah, it's bad.
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Oh, it's bad.
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You motherfucker.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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You are joking.
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God damn it.
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On November 8th, Russell Brand dropped by to have a little chat with Alex and we'll
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see.
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I think that there's a chance that he's annoying enough.
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You know how much I hate him.
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You know how much I hate him.
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Well, I think a lot of people have quite a bit of hate for him.
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Rightfully so.
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He sucks.
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But I was drawn to this mostly out of the urge to see if we could get you superpowers.
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Sure.
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But then also just because who cares what Alex thinks?
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It's kind of fucking stupid.
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Yeah.
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You know what I love?
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Try a little change flavor.
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I love when Russell Brand just is allowed to keep talking.
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Just keeps going.
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You know what?
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Then you'll actually like this a bit because Alex interrupts him constantly.
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That's great.
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Now I'm happy.
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Finally, we have something in common.
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Keep this man from talking too much.
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Yeah, it's a real push and pull.
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So we're going to start off here with Alex introducing the interview and breaking some
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big news.
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Okay.
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Here you are for the next hour, 30 minutes or so, however long you want to stay.
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And talk about planets aligning, though.
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We had this set up like a week or so ago or a couple weeks ago if you come in on this
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Saturday.
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And then all hell broke loose yesterday.
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And now even Thomas Massey seen the documents out of the congressional stuff.
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I know the DOJ inside baseball, the DOJ under pressure from cash Patel and others.
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And Pam Bondi is holding off on this.
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People are giving Ed Martin the credit.
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He's like, don't give me the credit.
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But I can tell you he officially has been looking at this.
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They knew this a long time ago.
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We knew this.
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A Capitol police officer with another group connected to Pelosi who's actually CIA.
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That's confirmed with the fake pipe bombs and all that.
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They were planning a false flag against Kamala Harris, who they had go to an office building
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where this bomb got planted outside.
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We knew this right when it happened four and a half, five years ago.
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But now it's come out.
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Thomas Massey, America's waking up today to learn the Capitol Police turned CIA orchestrated.
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This is Thomas Massey, one of the most trusted people in America.
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The pipe bomb.
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America is waiting today to learn the Capitol Police turned CIA orchestrated the pipe bombs
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on January 6th, and the FBI has covered it up for over four years.
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I questioned FBI director Ray, ATF director Dattlebach, an FBI assistant director.
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And now they're questioning why is Kash Patel sat on this for 10 months?
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They know all this.
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They have the geolocation off of her cell phone.
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Prado groups were able to get it.
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They claimed it was corrupted.
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They couldn't, but they proved it.
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They also got the cameras ran through the programs that do the biometric gate.
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And now she's at the CIA.
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This is so huge.
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You've got your guest here and you're just talking for a minute and a half.
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Yep.
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Just full on.
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I'm going to introduce you.
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I've got something completely separate to say unrelated to you entirely.
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Yeah.
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So you might notice that Alex seems pretty careful not to say the person's name,
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who he's claiming has been proven to be the J6 pipe bomber.
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Feels strange.
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He's making up a mountain of evidence against this person,
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and he absolutely knows that what he's doing is defamatory.
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So he's trying to hedge his bets by not saying a name.
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There's been a theory flying around dipshit media about how the person
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who planted the bombs was a former Capitol police officer who went on to work for the CIA.
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Okay.
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This all goes back to an article published on Glenn Beck's site, The Blaze,
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which reported that quote, a forensic analysis of a female former US Capitol police officers gate
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is a 94 to 98% match to the unique stride of the long sought January 6th pipe bomb suspect.
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I'm going to, I'm sorry.
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Can I, can I just go back to, so I, I initially heard gate G A T E because
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no way would you ever think to say that the way that this person walks is so close to the
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way that this other person walks, they must be the same person.
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Her giddyup is, that would be insane.
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Right in line.
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That would be crazy.
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So that article goes on to name the Capitol police officer who would currently own The
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Blaze in a sane media ecosystem.
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She should be suing the shit out of these people.
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It would make sense.
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That article relies on a bunch of expert law enforcement analysts.
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They know what they're talking about.
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Like Alex's regular guest, Kyle Serafin.
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Right.
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It's really just a big pile of shit.
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Yeah.
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There's no evidence presented to accuse this person other than this gate analysis,
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which is interesting science, but it's not good enough.
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People do have distinctive walks and they have people have found when they've looked into this,
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it is pretty hard to like directly impersonate someone's walk.
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Sure.
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So there is a fingerprinty kind of nature to it.
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Sure.
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And there have been algorithms that have been tested to identify people that way,
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but it's not as simple as just like plugging in a few videos of someone and saying,
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looks like a 95% match.
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I read a paper from 2024 on a promising gate recognition software,
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and they were able to get about 96.7% accuracy rate,
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but that was in a context of like a controlled environmental setting for the experiment.
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And they needed to use sensors to get the baseline of the gate in order to match this.
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This is sloppy shit by The Blaze.
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So you're saying that this program couldn't suddenly identify each individual out of the
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300 odd million people that live in the United States based on their walk?
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No, it's not as crazy a premise.
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We could end up in a world in the future where people are identified by walks.
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Right.
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Like there is a possibility of that.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But the way the methodology of how they did this is really dumb.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And it's also probably worth noting that the author of this article who's working for The
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Blaze, Steve Baker, he was arrested for participating in the January 6th riots,
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and he pled guilty to multiple misdemeanors, which were ultimately pardoned by Trump.
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Sure.
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It's shitty work by being done by someone who has a very clear conflict of interests.
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And these people, man.
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So the theory is this Capitol police officer walked, very important, to plant a pipe bomb.
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Two of them.
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Two of them to blow up Kamala Harris's human...
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RNC and DNC.
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Right, right, right.
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And then quit the Capitol police and then got a job at the CIA.
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Well, no, the theory would be that she was doing it under the auspices of the CIA to
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begin with.
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Right.
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And this was part of her, you do this, you're in.
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Right, right, right.
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But that would be crazy to then give her a job at the CIA.
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Right?
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Well, I think the CIA is crazy.
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At the very least, to announce that we've given her a job would be an
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insane... to directly reward somebody for potential terrorism?
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You really think you'd kill them?
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I mean, that's the only...
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Why don't people just kill people in these funny stories?
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Yeah.
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That's the only way to make sense.
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It's an insane loose end.
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Yeah.
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To just leave hanging.
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And something that the blaze could figure out by looking at someone's walk.
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You wouldn't want to leave that to chance.
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Kind of dumb.
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Like you're in the cubicles with all the other CIA agents, all just on your phones,
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like trying to investigate, and somebody goes, ah, shit, the blaze saw you walk.
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You fucked.
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The blaze found a video of you playing soccer.
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You're fucked.
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You're done.
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Oh my God, you were a pimp in the 90s.
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They know how you walk!
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Cyanide capsule.
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So Russell comes in and he's obviously very excited to be there.
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Of course.
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And thinks that this is hallowed ground.
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I'm really grateful to be with you.
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And it kind of feels like a pilgrimage to be in this hallowed and sacred space with you.
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Alex Jones, a man so extraordinary that I think initially people didn't know how to categorize
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you.
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Now I do.
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Since coming to Christ, I've understood what your role is in the culture.
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That you are an early prophesier.
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And you know who prophesies, Alex.
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You know who does that work.
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And I suppose because we live in such an extraordinary, ultra-rational, but super dumb
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culture, people don't know how to understand someone that communicates like you, that sees
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the future, that speaks with passion, that isn't perfect because you're flesh, but you
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are a real great man.
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Alright, so let's just accept that Alex is a prophet.
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Sure.
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Write a new book to add to the Bible, you fucking cowards.
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Right.
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If this is truly hallowed ground at Alex's supplement commercial studio, and Alex has
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the kind of importance that the world hasn't seen in generations, then write a new book
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and demand Christianity adopt it.
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How can the Bible possibly be complete if there's no mention of Trump, or the evils
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of Fauci and the nefarious COVID plot?
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If we're being asked to take any of this religious pomposity seriously, then these guys need
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to write a new New Testament, and it's time for them to get real about who they really
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are and what they're doing.
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They're trying to take over a religion, so fucking do it already.
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Yep.
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Yeah, I mean, I strongly resent the idea of somebody calling the culture dumb inside that
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Cadbury cream egg of bullshit that he just spun around it.
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You can't call Alex Jones a fucking prophet and then be like, and this culture's so dumb.
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You're a God-given talent, my friend.
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Like, what are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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Fucking insane.
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It's, it feels bad.
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I think for both of them.
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I think that they both don't respect each other in any way.
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Yeah.
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This is an offensive opening.
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I mean, Alex would never know this, but this is a British person making fun of you, right?
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Maybe.
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I mean, we'll see as it goes along if you get any other clues of that sort of gentlemanly...
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I get the sense that we're going to hear a lot of three examples of things over and over
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and over again today.
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Maybe.
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So, uh, Katy Perry used to marry.
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Uh, they used to be married.
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Her and Russell Brand.
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Katy Perry once was married.
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Exactly.
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It's like, why are we going to close this?
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And Alex knew her dad.
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And he was like a big Christian guy and she was in Christian music originally.
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Right.
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Makes sense.
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And so apparently, uh, this, this guy, he once told Alex that Katy Perry was going towards
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the devil.
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I've followed you very closely and have loved your work, but some people say, oh, he just
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now had this conversion to Christianity a few years ago.
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And I happened to be at the same island years later in Florida, Boca Grande, where it actually
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happened.
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I talked magically to the old man and the locals that saw what happened.
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I don't know if you even know.
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I know this story, but you kind of had a soul on the road to Damascus moment, but you're
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already seeking.
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But I remember 12, 14 years ago, whenever it was, you were leaving Katy Perry.
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Talking about Katy Perry.
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And the reason I'm raising it is because of Justin Trudeau.
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Is that why you're bringing it out?
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The reason who cares about it?
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I agree.
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But I remember her dad on saying, no, no, they were listening to your show.
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Russell was waking up.
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She wasn't.
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He was saying you were being good.
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She was with the devil.
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Yeah, man.
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That sounds like something a dad would do.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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So if you're Russell, Brad, just imagine this for a second.
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You used to be married to this woman.
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That was your father-in-law.
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You probably know the guy pretty well.
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You would hope.
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Yeah.
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And here's Alex being like, yeah, he was telling me back then that your daughter, his daughter
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was of the devil.
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You have to think this guy's a fucking idiot.
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I mean, or at the very least, that's a rude thing to say.
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Quite rude.
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Quite rude.
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At the very least, you're a very rude person, Alex.
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Unless it's like public knowledge that Russell hates Katy Perry's dad.
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And then maybe it's not as rude.
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It's still a little rude.
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It's such a weird story to make up.
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Right.
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So that would take me back right out the gate of just being like, I have no idea what you're
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talking about.
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Katy Perry went to the devil?
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And that's just after Alex saying like, I magically talked to the old man who was there
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when you came to Christ.
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Yeah, that was weird.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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We've got a lot of magic already in the episode.
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Yeah.
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We're starting off real magical.
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And Alex is also trying to be like, I know a lot.
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Like, I know the old man from the like, I know Katy Perry's dad.
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Listen, I was there whenever you talked to Bagger Vance.
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I know what's up.
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You're getting visited.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So if I had to give like a sort of thesis for what I think these people want, it's not
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to be held responsible for things and they want a theocracy.
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That sounds right.
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Well, if you think about it, Church of England, it's like it suggests that it's somehow inferior
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to England in the running order.
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Church of England.
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It's beneath England.
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And I think probably I really would love to know your thoughts on this, Alex.
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I feel that this this revival that we're participating in that's unfolding before us
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might be a reinstating of Christ to his right position on the throne.
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That nation, while nation is important, is nation under God, not nation that deploys
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and utilizes God for it.
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Well, I totally agree.
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And I'm going to get to that.
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I'm going to talk about you.
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All right.
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Because because.
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Because how long is it going to be before we get to talk about me, Alex?
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So I get that Russell is a silly goose and Alex is a fun idiot.
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But these ideas aren't interesting, new or fun.
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They just want a theocracy.
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Yeah.
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There are two versions of placing God on the throne that you can advocate for.
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One is fine and the other is theocracy.
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And it feels like Russell is the type of fellow who likes to advocate for one while pretending
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he's interested in the other.
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Like if you in your personal life view God as a higher authority than the state.
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Sure.
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Good for you.
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Yeah.
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This will become a problem if you bomb an abortion clinic.
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It will be.
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But up until the points where you break the law.
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Right.
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We don't care.
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As long as you leave everybody alone, you can believe whatever fucking shit you want.
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Our culture is basically designed around accommodating that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sure.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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There are demons.
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Great.
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That's fine.
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Go to work.
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If you want God to be on a throne that I have to answer to, this is where we're going to
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run into some issues.
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All right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Who gave you the who gave you that power?
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God did.
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Not to me.
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We didn't talk.
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He didn't tell me any of this shit.
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My friend, this is going to get circular.
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This is not going to be good for me, is it?
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No.
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You got a lot of people and a lot more guns.
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Yeah.
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So Russell, I don't know if you know this, is facing charges of rape and sexual assault.
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From which decade over the past four that I have been aware of him?
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Maybe a few.
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I'm not sure on all the dates of everything.
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But yeah, he's facing a trial.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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And that makes it a little uncomfortable when Alex starts talking quite a bit about
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what a womanizer he was and how women would throw panties at him and calls him a lady
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slayer.
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Come on.
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No, no, but your story is for everybody, because I can look in your eyes and I have the Holy
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Sermon and I see your works bring people to Christ.
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A lot of people say, oh, this guy was, you know, and by the way, I'm not as big a, you
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know, lady slayer as this guy, but I was no slouch.
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The point is the whole Bible and history.
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Don't call it a lady slayer when I've got to face a rape trial.
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You know what I mean?
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Hilarious.
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There are no slayings.
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Don't punish seduction.
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Eloquence.
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No, I get it.
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I get it.
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All things are love, Alex.
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Man, they're turning frogs gay.
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I was on the way here earlier.
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A frog touched me on the ass.
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Now it was consensual.
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I'm not saying it's not consensual.
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I'm not having it anymore.
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Oh, it feels like panic.
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Yeah.
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What are we doing with that one, buddy?
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So you get a pretty clear sense that Russell doesn't take the allegations against him very
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seriously and doesn't have much respect for the conversation around it.
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This checks out given that earlier this year, he showed up to plead not guilty to the charges
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wearing a coat and vest with no undershirt.
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Cool.
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It's an interesting situation that he's gotten himself into where he needs to pretend to
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be this vessel of light and subscribe to this transcendent Christianity, but he also can't
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give an inch of compassion or decency on this front without the audience he's pandered to
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thinking he's a wuss.
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Of all the side characters that come up around Alex, Russell's the one that feels least in
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control of his own brand.
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Underneath the fast talking and bullshit new agey speak, it feels like he knows that he's
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only one or two wrong moves away from alienating the last audience that he's ever going to
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be able to attract.
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Yeah.
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He feels like a guy who's desperately trying to convince himself this isn't the bottom
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of the barrel while sitting like deep in an empty barrel with Alex.
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This is the bottom of the barrel doing a bad Alex impression with no joke to it.
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I mean, that was that was talking about my rape trial.
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Yeah, you were supposed to be a comic at one point, right?
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You should at least have some chops.
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And instead, this is just panic screaming because, hey, don't talk about how I fucking
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am a lady.
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Slayer.
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Don't call me a rapist.
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Rara rara rara.
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So they jump off this subject naturally and get on to the story of the old man who Alex
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magically talked to.
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And I would like this story.
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I would like this old man story.
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Unfortunately, might not be true.
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And then I'm going out to Tucker show like eight months ago on Boca Grande and I get
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dropped off by the drivers as the people at the airport 50 miles away.
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And I and I just walk in where I'm at this little hotel and this old man comes up and
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he says, you know, Russell Brand goes, oh, Alex, I love you, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm a Catholic, blah, blah.
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Let me give you a rosary thing and all this.
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He goes, you know, I was here a few years ago when he had his conversion and he was
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not having a breakdown like a spiritual experience out in the water in his clothes.
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And I just felt led by God to go to him and talk to him about Christ and God.
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And then he he accepted Christ right there.
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I don't think the old man was lying.
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I don't believe anybody knows the story.
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Maybe it was made up.
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But but but then I talked to locals and I talked to Tucker and he'd heard about it from
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them that actually happened.
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So was that a true story?
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I don't remember being in the water in my clothes, but it's the sort of thing I might
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have done.
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OK, so in religious circles, what Alex is doing is super rude.
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Yeah.
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Your conversion to Christ is your story.
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It's your testimony of how the Lord moved in you.
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And it is deeply personal.
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It's something that's happening inside you.
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So for Alex to tell this story without Russell's consent, not knowing if it's even true is
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really offensive.
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Alex is creating this very standard seeing the light type of scene for Russell to sign
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off on.
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And by doing so, he's putting Russell in the position of having to adopt this as the moment
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that he found God or to say that this guy Alex was talking to was full of shit.
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Yep.
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Not a good position.
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If he chooses the first one, then Alex is now dictating his relationship with God.
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If he chooses the second, it seriously calls into question how easily Alex will just believe
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random gossip.
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There's no good response for Russell to what Alex is doing, but the choice he makes is
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actually a third worse path.
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The moment you accept Christ into your heart is supposed to be the most important moment
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of your life.
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So the way that Russell says, well, it sounds like something I might do is kind of trivializing
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the divine.
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I mean, let's be honest.
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I've accepted Christ into my heart pretty much at the beginning of every rape trial.
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So I don't know if you know me.
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I'm a lady slayer.
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I'm a little crazy.
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It might have been out there in the water talking to this old man for a couple hours
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and finding God.
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It happens all the time.
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It's just one of the easiest things to do in terms of the sleight of hand of being like,
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yeah, an old man told me the story.
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You tell me the story.
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And then you just confirm that the old man said that.
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Right?
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That's just the quick sleight of hand.
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I know I saw it coming.
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You tell the story because it's your personal story.
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And then we can all share in this.
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But also I'm a genius.
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I knew it in advance.
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Yeah.
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If Alex had just let Russell tell his story, he could add details and association.
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Himself instead of what is very uncomfortable and not a cool thing to do to somebody.
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I met a stranger and they told me they helped you find God.
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That sounded true to me.
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So I believed in this old man who saved your soul.
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Now you're here and I'm telling it to you.
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Weird wild.
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So Alex, he's stuck on this old man.
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Because of course, he's not a fixate on the worst.
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Russell's like, shut up about the old man.
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Did you have your main conversion on book around there?
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What happened was is, look, I can understand why people would be cynical about anything.
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Look at the world that we occupy.
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What information can you trust?
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Like we went to the old man said you were.
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He started talking for you.
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All right.
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The old man like this old man.
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I don't know about this old man, but what I can tell you is my son, Mike, of coming to Christ for me
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was like the inevitable discovery of someone that has always been there.
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Always been there present.
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Initially, Alex, the reason, as I said, that was like discovering yourself.
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Yeah, because it's the deep truth within you.
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Like all of us are familiar with a second voice in our head that sometimes self-condemnatory
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that tells you you're not good enough, that you're worthless.
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Many of us are trapped in a constant inner dialogue with kind of.
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That's why Satan's called the accuser.
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Well, I wonder if it's demonic.
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I do.
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The devil tells you.
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No, it is good.
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I hear you, man.
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I hear you, man.
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Hey, buddy.
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I want to say that it's normal to have varying degrees of internal dialogue in your head.
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It's not demons.
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It's thoughts.
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Sometimes these thoughts follow an intentional path and sometimes you have stray thoughts,
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but neither is a demon.
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When we experience higher levels of stress or life setbacks, it can be easy to feel like
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you're having more thoughts that are negative and that you're not in control of them.
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It's hard, but therapy can really help on that front.
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We all learn lessons in life that we don't realize we're learning, and sometimes they're wrong.
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We learn the wrong lesson.
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Like, maybe we fail at something that we really wanted to succeed at, and that can teach you
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that you're not good enough.
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You take away a negative lesson from the experience and you tell yourself that you're just not
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the kind of person who succeeds, and then this gets repeated in your brain.
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If you just allow these thoughts and lessons that you learn to go unexamined in your head,
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then you can end up falling into patterns where every time you fail, you tell yourself,
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of course I failed.
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That's what I do.
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And every time you succeed, you tell yourself that you didn't deserve to and it must have
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been an accident.
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Getting out of these patterns is hard and the solution isn't magical, but you can challenge
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the thoughts you have if you can identify them.
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Then, when you identify them, you have to challenge them, and there's plenty of ways
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to do that.
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Critical analysis works by taking thoughts like, I'm supposed to fail, and asking why,
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until you see that this belief is based on nothing.
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You could take a religious approach of confronting these things too, where you ask, why am I
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not just meant to fail?
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And the answer is, because God loves you, and he didn't make you just to fail.
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There you go.
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There isn't one right or wrong way to take care of yourself, but I do know that pretending
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that all this conflict in your head is the work of demons is lazy, counterproductive,
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and something that a fraud would want you to think, which is what these two assholes
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are.
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So fuck them.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just the simplest thing to steal from a person is their own thoughts.
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To take from them, like, yeah, I know whatever you think is you, that's not you.
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I am telling you that it's demons outside of you.
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So in this transaction of our conversation, the you you think you are does not exist at
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all.
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It's just me and the demons, and you have to either do what I say or the demons, so
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you're going to do what I say, right?
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You're not going to think for a single second, maybe I just think things.
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I really resent this.
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I think it's really on all the levels that these people are just assholes and they're
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bad.
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Yeah.
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Like this kind of perpetuation of the bad things about you or the devil.
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That I really think robs people of the tools and the energy that they need to actually
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address issues that really suck and are hard.
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They're hard to deal with.
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They are the process of becoming.
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Yeah.
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And magic isn't going to work.
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No, it's just not.
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It's just not.
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So Russell, I think that because he used to wear leather coats and do heroin, I think
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he still thinks that he's edgy and he considers himself an apostate of the culture.
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Boo.
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When Christ appears on the plane of your consciousness, when the spirit moves over the water, when
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the prima materia of consciousness is infused with the divine, you discover that an aspect
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of yourself is Christ.
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Now, I don't mean that in a grandiose way.
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I'm not claiming any personal or particular access to Christ.
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I'm saying, in fact, that that was obscured from me most of my life.
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I was worshiping the culture.
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In fact, more interesting, perhaps than my conversion to Christ is my apostasy against
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the culture that I was a priest for previously.
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When you're in Hollywood and you're making a bunch of money and you're having a load
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of sex and everyone's telling you you're fantastic, you don't realize that you're an appointed
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voice of the system.
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It becomes very obvious with someone like Yuval Noah Harari, the writer of Sapiens,
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who probably is a legit guy, but there's a reason that his books are Barack Obama's favorite
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books, because those books are telling you you don't have a chance, you don't have a
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future.
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AI has already...
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You don't have free will.
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Wow.
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Wait, so you think you have free will?
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Oh my God.
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So you have to be a real serious dork to think that whining about Obama liking a book by
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Yuval Noah Harari somehow makes you punk rock or a cultural apostate.
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I feel kind of bad because Russell just wasn't that great except at one thing, and apparently
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there's a limited market for that thing.
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He popped like crazy in Forgetting Sarah Marshall because he seemed like a larger than life
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druggy blowhard who was a perfect foil for Jason Segel's character.
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He was an awesome comedic punching bag because he's full of charisma, but you also kind of
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instinctually distrust him.
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This makes him a great side character, but he doesn't really have the juice to be a leading
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man in the movies, and unfortunately his schtick as this bombastic weirdo kind of got
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old fast.
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Get Him to the Greek was only two years after Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and that speaks
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for how short the shelf life on this career was.
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He could have coasted into a very promising voiceover career, and he's been in the Despicable
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Me movies even after his stupid guru pivot, so he could have just done that, but I think
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he thinks of himself higher than that.
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And my point generally here is that he's not an apostate of the culture.
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He was just a disposable and ultimately cheap piece of that culture in the late 2000s, early
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2010s, and he seems unwilling to accept that he just didn't have a second gear acting-wise.
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Like there wasn't anything to turn on.
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There was no like one hour photo or whatever, roll, prestige roll where you were gonna turn
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it around and be a different guy.
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You're you.
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No, he doesn't have an actual substantive talent.
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He has enough gristle for you to be caught up in, and then he's gotta be gone.
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He's like the quintessential music man.
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He shows up in the town, da da da da da, and then he's gotta be gone, because if he stays
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for two extra days, everybody's gonna go, you're a piece of shit.
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Well, no, and ah, he captures an energy that you really want to be ironic.
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Like you want this person to like actually be-
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You know what you're doing, right?
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You want them to, when they go about their daily life, to just be kind of like, oh, you
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don't actually think you're Jesus.
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Yeah.
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But the character isn't satire.
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Like the characters that he played weren't.
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They're kind of too close to his assholishness.
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I resent, you know, like culture changes.
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That's fine.
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It happens.
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That's cool.
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And I'm fine with like the things that I thought were cool no longer being cool.
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That's totally fine.
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Definitely.
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I'm fine with all of that stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Totally fine.
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I am not fine with this transaction being no longer the same, all right?
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You can either be cool or you can have become a born-again Christian.
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You cannot do both.
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There is no doing both.
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Those are the rules.
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Yeah.
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Well, no, like I agree with you, but if you are this person who is the born-again Christian,
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you also think you're cool.
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Like I remember those guys.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Like in youth group and shit.
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Absolutely.
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You're not cool, but you think you are and maybe you are the 12-year-old.
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Right, right, right.
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Which is why you hang out with them.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I find it sad.
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You know, sometimes I just wish people would be forced to diagram their own sentences in
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the middle of talking.
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Like there should be a, like we should have a challenge system, right?
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Where, you know, like in tennis before everything was automated, you could be like,
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I think that ball was out.
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My eyes are better than yours, right?
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And then you'd challenge it and then you'd win or lose, right?
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I want to be able to interject, be like challenge and force him to like write out one of his
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fucking sentences and not shit his pants because this is awful.
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You would lose track of what the fucking point is.
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What are you talking about?
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Where is this dangling clause?
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What does this mean?
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It is so much that like if you just keep having that rhythm propelling you, people won't stop
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and go fuck you.
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Yeah, he's the, he's a champion of momentum.
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That is for damn sure.
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Worst.
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So Alex is the, like, he's one of the only free types of news, man.
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Everyone else's controls, man.
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What's funny about you as well, and I think what's difficult is the media, the world of
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information is different now.
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You know, the people that used to do your job, newscasters, we now know probably water
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concrete was corrupted.
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All those voices, all those names that you associate with truth and freedom, they were
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probably one way or another paid up, paid for stooges of a system.
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But in a moment when we see you beloved Alex Jones, put your methylene blue thumb to your
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lips to blow an imaginary trumpet.
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We realized the world is a different place.
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The fact is, is that they can't control information anymore.
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You were one of the first filters are gone.
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Yeah.
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It's remarkable that Russell can't even give Alex a compliment about how he's an independent
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real truth journalist without getting in a joke about his thumb being stained blue from
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one of his stupid supplements.
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In literature, this is irony.
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This is like legit irony.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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What Russell is saying is that influence is cheap now.
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Maybe the newscasters in the old days are being controlled by the CIA and they were
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totally corrupt, but they were inaccessible.
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You weren't going to be able to bribe them because they've already been bribed.
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But now there's an entire landscape of dipshit attention economy performers who need sponsors
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so badly that they'll stain their skin to sell you their worthless supplements.
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Russell is pretending like we've gone from a place where the media was corrupt to a place
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where the media is legitimate, but he's actually saying that it's just become expected that
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media entities would be corrupt now and there's no difference.
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Yeah.
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Consider that methylene blue is something that isn't proven to do anything, but Alex
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started selling because other people in his media bubble started speculating about something
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that RFK was seen drinking.
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He had a mysterious blue drink and everyone wanted to know what it was.
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It turned out it was this supplement, so then everyone in the right wing space started selling
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it, insisting that theirs was the best.
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It was the stuff that RFK drinks.
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Wow.
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That's literally and metaphorically what's staining Alex's thumb.
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Yeah.
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And I honestly, I don't think that Russell means this to be as indicting as it is, but
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it's fucking damning.
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Right.
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I mean, it is more than a little Lady Macbeth.
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It's more than a...
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You'll never be able to scrub that blue off your thumb, my man.
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That blue is going to stay there forever.
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Your little pretend trumpet.
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It is stained.
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Yeah.
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And I wonder if you just...
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It sounds more profound because he's British.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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This is 100%...
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All of these things that he is saying to Alex's face are only facilitated by the fact that
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Alex understands one out of every 10 words that he is saying.
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Like, he's no idea what is really being said to him at all.
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Probably not.
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Yeah.
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Probably not most of it.
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No.
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I don't think...
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I mean, half the time, I don't even know what he's trying to say.
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I would imagine that you and Russell share that.
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I think that there's a fair amount of speech that happens without his own...
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Like, it's involuntary.
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Right, right, right.
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There's a little bit of that like 70s bebop, like, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop,
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all right, now I found the rhythm.
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I can keep talking again, you know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Some pathways that were burned out by the drugs before he stopped taking them.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So Russell, he got really famous.
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We all know that.
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We saw Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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Absolutely.
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And then he fucked a lot and he did a bunch of drugs and stuff.
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I think he did that before he got famous too.
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True, when he was a stand-up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But he wasn't satisfied.
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That'll happen.
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Well, our role is, as you've known a lot longer than I have done, is to be able to convert
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this esoteric spiritual information into a format that people can understand.
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People have been hurt by religion.
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People have been hurt by corruption in the church and within Christianity.
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People have been wounded and enslaved by a culture that I celebrated.
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So they're already weak.
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We can get them.
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Thought could improve and approve of me.
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I thought that if I became famous, I would mean something, that my life would be valuable.
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I did become famous.
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I got access to all of the things that I wanted when I was a little boy, a tubby little boy
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that didn't think he was good enough.
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I got access to money and fame and sex and drugs and all of those things.
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And initially, of course, it's stimulating, but it's hollow and it's empty.
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But the Lord, he will let you take those journeys.
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So how much more invigorated are you now with God and being with your wife and all that?
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I mean, I heard you talk about summit.
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I mean, is it not like infinity better?
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It's painful and peaceful.
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It's painful because the truth of it is painful.
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It's painful to know that the world is controlled by the evil one.
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It's painful to know that everything beautiful in your life is temporary and transient on
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this plane.
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All of those things are painful, but beautiful.
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The beginning of knowledge is sorrow.
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Guys, pull that Bible verse.
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The beginning of knowledge is sorrow.
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What's that from, mate?
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I forget what the I forget where it's at, but it's going to be Lamentations.
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Is it going to be Solomon?
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It's going to do you think it's going to be some Old Testament?
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It is Old Testament.
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Playing some good old Bible roulette.
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Where do you think that that thing is from?
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Yeah, great.
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So Russell is just saying that he was given everything he thought he wanted and he
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couldn't control himself and he found it all unsatisfying.
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From there, he's made the leap that Satan must be running the world and trying to stop
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him from bringing about the return of Christ.
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Sure.
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Russell is fucking lucky that he went all those open mics and trained himself to talk
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really fast and make fun references in his extemporaneous speech, because if he didn't,
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a lot more people would realize that he's an idiot.
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Yep.
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This scripture is interesting that they bring up because they are correct that it comes
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from the Old Testament, but it's telling that they don't know the book.
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It's from Ecclesiastes, and the reason that this is important is because this book is
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entirely about Russell's story.
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If he doesn't know Ecclesiastes, he doesn't know the Bible at all.
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The text is ascribed to a ruler named Cohelet, who begins the book by lamenting that everything
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is meaningless because nothing lasts.
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Chapter 2, verse 1 through 3 says, quote, I said to myself, come now, I will test you
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with pleasure to find out what is good.
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But that also proved to be meaningless.
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Laughter, I said, is madness, and what does pleasure accomplish?
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I tried cheering myself with wine and embracing folly, my mind still guiding me with wisdom.
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I wanted to see what was good for people to do under the heavens during the few days of
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their lives.
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The narrator of the story is literally doing what Russell is pretending his life has been
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about.
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He's struggling with the futility of life and seeking to find meaning in the things
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that everyone else finds pleasure in.
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By chapter 9, things have gotten a bit bleak.
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Quote, go, eat your food with gladness and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God
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has already approved what you do.
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Always be clothed in white and always anoint your head with oil.
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Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that
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God has given you under the sun, all of your meaningless days.
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For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.
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Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead,
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where you were going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.
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Jesus Christ, buddy, take a vacation.
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Yeah, he's a donor.
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So, Colette essentially finds that there's no intrinsic meaning in anything from wealth
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to wisdom because we're all dying.
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Right.
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The only thing that matters is honoring God through whatever actions you take and enjoying
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life while you're lucky enough to experience it.
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Kind of like that Ozzie man, Damas guy.
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Yeah.
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It's a glaring red flag for Russell's whole game, but he doesn't recognize this Bible
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verse because if any of his shit was sincere, this is a really short book and he would have
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read it a bunch of times because it would be like, oh my God, I fucking feel this.
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Yeah, this is one of the ones.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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It's really funny that there aren't that many where people are like, oh shit, this is for
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real though.
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Yeah.
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You know, like this isn't just like, oh, naming a bunch of guys who did stuff.
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This is like a guy's feelings.
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Fuck me.
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And they're exactly the feelings that I use to make my brand.
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Absolutely.
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Where I tried all the women and the wine and I did everything and I made great projects
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for myself and all of it was all not.
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Yeah.
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Like it's this whole thing.
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Yeah.
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It is so weird how many of these, I mean, it's not weird.
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It's how lazy they are, but it is like, you know, the book's been around for a few thousand
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years for a reason.
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There's a lot of stuff that you can exploit in there, you know, and they don't even bother
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to do that.
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Even when it's like one to one, like you should be wearing an Ecclesiastes hat.
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Absolutely.
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That's you could sell Ecclesiastes 613 or whatever for God so love Steve Austin.
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I have a job now.
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What?
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Yeah.
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So remember earlier Alex was saying that Katy Perry's dad said that she was worshiping the
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devil.
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She is a devil worshiper.
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So this comes back up and of course it does.
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The second time around, I don't think Russell is that into it.
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You know, you've mentioned a couple of times Pastor Keith, Katy's father.
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He's a good man and she's a good person.
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They're all good people.
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I brought it up because he's on the air going Russell's.
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I think becoming Christian.
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My daughter is a devil worshiper and I was like, okay, I just wanted the backstory.
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You sure that he said he's doing you can find.
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He said, yo, Katy's with the devil and he's been with the devil for years.
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I had him on like 13, 14, whatever it was years ago saying, I think Russell's about
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to find Christ.
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So I think you kind of got the foreshadowing of it.
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It's weird isn't it?
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If you're a clever person, if your mind works quick, you might think that you understand
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a bunch of stuff, but I've been so slow to understand this.
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I've been so slow to understand.
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He saw it way ahead.
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Well, maybe.
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And what about all the people that pray for us, Alex?
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I know a lot of people pray for you.
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I know a lot of people pray for me and I'm very, very grateful for their prayers.
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And in that heavenly ulterior realm connected to the ultimate reality through those channels,
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I've been the grateful recipient of their grace and their kindness.
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They've done the Lord's work through their prayers.
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How much do you pray, Alex?
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You pray a lot, mate?
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Not enough.
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I can tell from that.
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Pray a lot, mate.
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You're too busy selling methylene blue.
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Baba's methylene blue.
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Elange your frog.
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Oh, you suck.
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Boo.
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So this is an important moment between these two dudes where Russell should be fully aware
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that Alex is full of shit and an unreliable narrator.
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Russell was married to Katy Perry for two years and obviously knows her family pretty
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well.
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He knows that Katy's dad wouldn't go on some radio show and say that his daughter was worshiping
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the devil.
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Probably not.
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So when Alex says this, Russell pushed back on it.
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Alex's response is unconvincing, but Russell just lets it go because I'm sure he realizes
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it's not worth fighting about this.
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But in that moment, he has to either accept that Alex is full of shit or that Alex knows
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his ex-wife's dad better than he does.
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And just because it's fun, here's the actual exchange between Alex and Katy Perry's dad
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when he was on the show in September 2013.
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You can run on for a long time.
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Well, we've got Keith Hudson on with us.
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Looking and Seeing is the book available at KeithHudson.com.
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Katy Perry's father calls her a devil child in sermon report.
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That was, uh, uh, or dot org, excuse me.
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That was put out by the, uh, New York Daily News with no proof, no video.
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I want to give you the opportunity again here on air to explain that you didn't say that.
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And then what your view overall just of rock and roll and where it's all going.
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Molly Cyrus and all the rest of it.
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And then we're going to shift gears, uh, into, uh, overall where you think the state of the
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world is today, sir.
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Well, Alex, that statement that came out about a month and a half, two months ago, I guess.
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And, um, they said that I made the statement.
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I called my daughter a devil child, which is not true.
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And I would never do that.
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Like I said, in the beginning of this, um, or talking to my family's first, it's always
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never ministry, never work.
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And I believe we have to really realize that the only thing we do have is our family and
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they're most important.
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And I know there's a lot of, um, things that have been put out there on me, not a lot,
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but like stuff on you, they put out there that you said that you didn't say, but I can
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tell you for a fact, I did not ever say there's no proof.
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There's nothing on video and nothing on, on the, uh, you know, on the tapes or the, or
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sure.
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Well, MSNBC says that I'm a deeply racist and can't show one clip of me saying anything
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racist.
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My lawyer said I could definitely win in court, but then I'd spend probably beating them in
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tons of money.
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And, you know, they're so discredited.
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That's just the way it is.
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But specifically, this isn't about you, man.
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It's ironic.
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So Alex has entirely forgotten or just decided to lie about what this story was.
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The news had reported that Katie's dad had called her a devil child and he was coming
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on Alex's show to attack the media and say that that wasn't true.
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12 years later, Alex has morphed this into a story where Katie's dad was coming on his
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show to talk about how cool Russell was and how his daughter was with the devil.
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Yep.
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Point is at this precise moment, Russell can no longer take Alex seriously.
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He 100% knows that he's a complete liar or someone who can't be trusted to interpret
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information.
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And the fact that he has to jump into an impression to save Alex from the, how much do you pray
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question?
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It tells me that Russell doesn't really care that much.
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If it's all an act, who cares what's sincere?
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Who cares?
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Yeah, this is exhausting.
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I can't imagine wanting to be either one of these people in this scenario.
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There's no positive situation where this conversation exists in a good way, right?
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What they're doing is they just need to be there and have words spoken next to each other
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and then later not be there.
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Yeah, and not dwell too much on the fact that Alex is a complete fucking liar lunatic
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who Russell would never want to associate with outside of this weird theocratic project.
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And Russell is a guy who's, you know, a lot more socially accepting of LGBTQ people than
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Alex would want.
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Neither of them likes the other.
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No, absolutely not.
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Fucking Russell is annoying as shit.
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The worst.
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Alex is a fucking Texan.
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The worst.
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He hates these kind of people.
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Listen, you don't have to be Hemingway to know that that guy can go fuck himself, okay?
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Yeah.
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That's brutal.
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Look, British, you're starting behind the starting gate.
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It's tough if you're British and you're talking to a Texan who takes that word very
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seriously, you're on the downslope.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you're not Lord Moncton, then I don't know.
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You're instinctively a villain in the story, right?
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That's just how that brain works.
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Yeah.
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So remember, he asked how much do you pray?
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What a memory to have to be like, okay, this guy came on to specifically tell me something
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and then later on, whenever it's convenient, it doesn't matter.
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He was there to talk shit about his daughter.
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Oh, wait.
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In reality, he was there to say that he didn't talk shit about his daughter.
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But it's so emblematic.
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Of course he listens to what the New York Daily News says over the guy himself.
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Right?
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No, no.
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Alex wasn't listening to the New York Daily News.
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Right.
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He was allowing Katy Perry's dad to come on to attack them.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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But in his memory, that's who has the primacy of storytelling.
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I don't even think it's that.
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Yeah, well, it's fair.
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I think he has just completely written over what happened.
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It's cooler if he hates Katy Perry.
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In his memory, the New York Daily News reported that the dad didn't call Katy Perry a devil
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child and maybe thought that Russell Brand was no good.
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And he was standing up against the New York Post saying that.
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We are in topsy turvy world.
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That is a good point.
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Yeah.
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So we get back to the subject of how much you praying, bro?
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How much you praying?
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How much you praying, mate?
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So it's hard to answer.
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I am constantly in prayer.
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Yeah.
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So the problem is when I have to pull out in the third dimension instead of constantly.
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So to me, I don't verbally pray.
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I'm like constantly jacked in.
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Yeah, I know you are.
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It's not like a beautiful.
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Actually, I pray.
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I just say, tell me what to do.
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And so for me, it's a little different than the kind of people think the conceptual idea.
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I understand.
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I do do praying on my knees in private.
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I do a lot of that.
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Okay.
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It's true.
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Like the body on the face is what I do.
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Oh, yeah.
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Hey.
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All right.
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That's cool.
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Let's not have a prayer off like your prayers are better than mine.
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Well, you said something.
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I actually put my head down the toilet.
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Right.
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Like 11 58 before we went live, you said, Hey, let's pray privately before we go on.
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And I said, let's pray publicly.
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You said, well, wait, Christ talking about the Pharisees praying in public.
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But in his specific thing, he was saying they do it because they're corrupt.
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They want to act like they're good.
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So at this point, Russell has to be totally aware of how full of shit Alex is about his faith.
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He's constantly in a state of prayer, and he's defensive about how performative his prayers on air are.
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I think all the boxes are checked.
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Yeah.
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Another point.
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Alex says that he's constantly in prayer, and then Russell says that he gets on his knees to pray,
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which is kind of an attempt to one up Alex.
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Absolutely.
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Then Russell goes off on a little riff about how they don't need to out pray each other.
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When he was the one who started it.
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Well, but he was a creep, but he's the one who wanted to finish it also.
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Right.
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So this is how you finish it.
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You finish it and then you do a double finisher on top of that.
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That's not fair.
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It's not fair.
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That's the Brits for you.
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I also like the like, I pray on my knees when I'm in private or need a closer at Tucker Carlson.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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I just, the performative faith thing to have somebody with like a trying to be dominant
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over it when both of you are so full of shit.
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I can't breathe.
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Yeah.
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Like it's insane.
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Like I pray the most.
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Like you both feel pained by how bad each other are.
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Right.
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Like you each kind of are disapproving of how transparent the other person's game is.
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Oh, you pray on your knees like a loser.
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Like one of those old people.
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I pray all the time.
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I'm jacked in man.
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Oh, you don't pray on your knees like somebody who's just jacked in all the time.
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I have to take out the cord to stop praying.
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Right.
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Come on man.
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You asked me when I'm praying.
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When am I not?
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I do recall that passage in the Bible when they were like, Jesus, how do we pray?
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And he was like, don't pray.
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Get plugged in man.
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You got to get into the stuff.
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You ever see the matrix?
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You will in a couple of thousand years.
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It's going to be great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm God.
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So I can see it in advance, obviously.
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God has lava lamps.
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So, um, the, uh, they start talking about some, uh, like news.
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Sure.
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And fine.
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Apparently sandwiches in the UK have a climate rating on them.
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And this is tyranny.
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Oh, that'll get you.
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And now they're going to make you get rid of your dog because of the climate.
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Oh my God.
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Did you see that story in my country?
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They started to innocuously introduce carbon scoring on like sandwiches or whatever, Alex.
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Or saying how your dog is bad.
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It has a carbon score.
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Wow.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, bear.
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The game's up.
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Your carbon scores too high.
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They say, get rid of your dog and cat.
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I don't know if you've seen that.
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They have TV ads in the UK.
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They'd kill your pets, man.
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They'd kill your pets.
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Maybe liberals will throw their dogs into fires or cats.
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Wow.
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To Moloch, to Moloch, to the false, at the orders of the false gods.
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Well, it's a lie.
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We have total expansion.
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Hundreds of billions of galaxies already found.
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It's like, it's the lie is that it's the resources are, that's why we're supposed to,
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we're supposed to exploit in a good way.
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All the animals want to come into the cities where we grow everything.
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We're, we are actually expansionists.
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We're amazing.
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Yeah.
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God's terraformers.
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God wants to get all this dead rock and turn it green with birds and butterflies.
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We're supposed to go do that.
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Yeah.
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Once we get loose, we're going to make the whole, oh my God.
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The eye is not seen.
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Ears are hurt.
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I've seen it actually though.
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It is.
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We're going to turn.
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Don't not.
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Oh, fuck off.
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Millions of galaxies.
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I love that.
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The ear has not heard.
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The eye has not seen, except for me.
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I've seen it, obviously.
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Man, these guys suck.
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These guys just suck.
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Everything has to be a weird, like I'm the best all the time.
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Nobody is able to speak a concise sentence.
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Nobody has a clear point.
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Neither of them want to be there.
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They have nothing worth hearing in the first place.
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Now, I think, I think that the only solace that I take in this is that I really don't
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think that Russell enjoys this that much, but it's his energy that is bringing this
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out of Alex where he's like, we're God's terraformers.
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Hey, let's get heady.
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You're a weirdo.
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You used to heroin.
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Absolutely.
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And I think him being subjected to that is kind of funny.
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Him having to put up with it.
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It's like both of them are trying to take each other to the place they want to go the
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least.
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How about your pride, mate?
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Actually, we're going to space.
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Can we scratch the little itch of the part of your brand that's totally bullshit?
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Right?
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Like, what are we doing?
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Just can I poke at your religiosity?
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Can I talk about how we're aliens?
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Take a picture together and then like, read books back and forth.
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Just pretend to have a conversation.
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Don't do this.
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This is the worst.
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It would be good if they had some kind of producer.
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You know, like, there could be this could stand a little structure.
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Yeah, because it's a lot of meaningless all over the place.
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Who gives a shit?
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I have a series of 10 questions to ask you that will keep us on to some sort of topic
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and will keep you from talking to me too much.
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Yeah, I think the influence of Rogan is corrosive.
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Yeah, it's no good.
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So biological life.
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What about it?
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It's from God.
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That doesn't sound true.
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Silicon life.
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Yeah, that's the devil.
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That doesn't sound possible because it can be programmed.
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Okay.
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And then our DNA is a laser.
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That makes sense.
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Well, how's it go then?
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The head of the...
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Biological life is from God.
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Yes.
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Silicon is from Satan.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's cool.
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That's cool.
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Men are from Mars.
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Get on this then, Alex.
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It's programmed.
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So you can program that.
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But biological life is self-sufficient.
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It goes forever.
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And it builds a...
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It's perfect.
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What?
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Yes.
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And people think it's slow compared to computers.
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No, it's not.
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Our ancient answers, wherever they began,
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we flesh through our genetics literally touched the last woman, the mouse man,
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the last woman, the last man, all the way back.
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It's a power line.
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It's a time traveling machine for our genetics and this message.
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So we look at this as slow like you have this life.
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That's the pleasure of even the space-time continuum that we have wives and husbands
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and all this fun and sunsets and everything.
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What we're really carrying forward...
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Sunsets?
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... into the universe, this key transmission.
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So even being like this laser beam, God fires out all the knowledge,
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is like trillions of people and all these pleasures and all these great things.
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While we're on board, God's laser beam is full of all these experiences, all this art,
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all this music, all this culture, and all it is is a laser link to the next level.
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Think about that.
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Even the laser link.
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In fact, that's all we are.
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We're a laser link.
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That makes sense.
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Shipple term people understand.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Hey, no notes.
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Makes perfect sense.
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Love it.
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Don't change a word.
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Everything there is very clear.
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I will never think you're cool.
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The moose that walked the plane now are connected to the very first moose.
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That's okay.
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Genetic code is a laser beam through moose.
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Love it.
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So fucking like I just I have to take pleasure in feeling annoyance.
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Yeah.
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Because I think Russell's got to be annoyed.
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Oh, this is the worst.
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This is the worst.
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I mean, I appreciate it.
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Now that we're you've gone the wrong direction.
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Yeah, I'm genuinely enjoying Russell Brand be bummed out by this.
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This is great for me.
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Yeah, it's not quite the same superpower.
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No, I'm hoping he gets superpowers from this.
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He doesn't.
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He just ends up praying.
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Of course.
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Why would I have ever guessed anything else?
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So I got a philosophical and theological question to put on you.
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Sure.
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Can God sin?
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No.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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No, it's pretty obvious.
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No, that's a very simple question.
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It's kind of his whole fucking thing.
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Really, if you stop and think about it, you're right.
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That's his main complaint.
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Apparently he has one sin though.
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That doesn't sound true.
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Nope.
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Sure doesn't.
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We're the aliens.
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I mean, let's just be 100% clear.
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And so our species put her by God and God's like, and there's also this species, but it's
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really just your tester.
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You're way more advanced.
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You're an embryonic form.
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So my only sin, you could say God's only sin.
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I would just say this against God.
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You'll see it in the Bible, but God's only guilt.
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God is a guilty for it.
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God explains this.
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I always say you're God's a sadist.
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He allows all this pain.
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He allows us.
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Well, yeah, he when I have children, I have four.
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They will be born.
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They will die.
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I know they're eternal.
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They can become bank robbers or murderers, whatever.
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But I still did it because I love them.
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It's a process.
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What you're saying?
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We are God's children.
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So if you look at God and say, how dare you create me for the potential for pain?
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You're asking that you never had consciousness.
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And so the only question God ever had was I'm omnipresent, sentient, all powerful being.
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Do I create more potentials of what I've done?
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And that's why we're called Little G in the first book of the Bible, because it's true.
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Look in our embryonic form already what we built.
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I mean, we are we are tadpoles, folks.
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We are powerful.
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We are wonderfully and frighteningly made.
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See, this is where I get some hope, because I think that Alex is saying that we have superpowers.
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I think something along those lines.
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Yes.
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And so if we're on a quest to get you superpowers, right.
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This is affirming, right?
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No, I think it says that some people believe it's possible, maybe not the best people to
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believe it's possible, but there are some people who believe.
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Absolutely.
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Sure.
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Galileo was mocked in his time.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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Oh, my God.
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See, you can't God has kids.
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You can't have kids.
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Is it a sin to have kids?
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I mean, I genuinely don't know anymore.
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What are you saying?
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The problem of pain.
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Just that fucking man.
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God gave us free will, and that maybe was his only sin.
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Okay, so I think people have a problem in general with banning things.
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You know, like there's this idea that if you ban things, they will be banned as opposed
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to just like you'll make them more annoying to get right.
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I think we just need to have places for things like this conversation needs to exist in a
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basement with plenty of weed that is like closed off.
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So you're hot boxing.
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Yeah, it shouldn't be broadcast to anywhere else.
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Yeah.
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Or a church that's under investigation.
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Absolutely.
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100%.
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Either a weed basement or a suspicious church.
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There is an infiltrator within this church, so you don't need to worry about it too much
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later on.
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There's a snitch and it's both of you.
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Because they don't believe any of this shit.
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Why are we talking?
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I think Alex might be also like, there's a chance he's a little bit back in the sauce.
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He has a little bit of his drunk energy.
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Yeah, he does.
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But why wouldn't you if Russell Brand's coming around?
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I think he's trying to impress Russell Brand.
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I think he wants Russell Brand to be...
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The cook can still drink.
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I think so.
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I genuinely think so.
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Oh God.
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It's brutal.
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So anyway, God has a plan and it's in our DNA.
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And yeah, it's...
Unknown Speaker (01:05:57.900)
But we also still have free will?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:00.380)
No.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Wait?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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No.
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We have to just keep fucking and making more people because that is the transmission from
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God through our DNA.
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What a weird transmission.
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There couldn't really be consciousness at all if you were on automaton.
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Isn't it curious still that the global imperialist order wants to create this kind of endless
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automation?
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What is Bill Gates trying to achieve?
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Alex, what's Bill Gates doing?
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Total war against God's plan.
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God says you have free will, but it's like an embryo when the zygote forms.
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It's a plan and it will be perfect.
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But if you attack it, sin means death.
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It will derail the plan.
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It's very simple.
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Within God's plan, you're not a slave like under Satan.
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You get all this free will and all these powers that increase as you go up.
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But you have to first be tested before you're given the great power.
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And so it's a blueprint.
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It's a diagram.
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It's total success in his architecture.
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But you have to...
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You just can't...
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You just can't hand this...
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God could create creatures that he claims have free will.
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Take a breath, buddy.
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Twisted to make sure they make the right decision.
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God has to then give you the will.
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And then Satan is an agent of God.
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God didn't turn Satan against God, but God knew Satan would do that.
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What are we doing?
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So yes, that's God's sin.
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If you want to say there's a sin, is it God allowed the devil to do this?
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But it is the tester.
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What?
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As anybody knows, you raise kids and don't make them work and do their own business.
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They're going to be spoiled rotten brats or devils.
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What?
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So the experience we have, little g, little God compared to the great God is the same experience.
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We go, oh, absolutely.
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We have kids.
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We love them.
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We're supposed to do it.
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We're supposed to raise them right.
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And but then they can go wrong.
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And God's like, exactly.
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Also, Alex, though, he gave us the law.
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He gave us the law.
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Here is the law.
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He gives us a cheat sheet.
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He doesn't say it's free will.
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He tells us what's coming in Revelation.
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He tells us in Ezekiel.
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He tells us in Daniel.
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He goes, exactly.
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He goes, you got a test, but God's so good.
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He goes, here's a cheat sheet, sweetheart.
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Yeah.
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Remember when this show was like about Alex complaining about OSHA and like trying to
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reaffirm the 10th Amendment and states rights and states send letters reaffirming.
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They still follow those amendments.
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Yeah.
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They're like, yo, three still up top.
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There's magic in your DNA.
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Three is number one.
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We need to have the state houses get together and reaffirm that there's magic in your fucking DNA.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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We've come a long ways.
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I miss the days whenever you could have, you know, because like religion is now very splintered.
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Back in the day, there was just the big ones, right?
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And they had way too much power to the point where you could just be like a regular old
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priest at a regular old church and somebody would say some shit like this to you and you
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would listen to it and you wouldn't understand it.
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But at the end of it, you go, sounds blasphemous.
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And that person would be gone.
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Yeah.
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You know, no one can talk to you.
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Yes, absolutely.
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That doesn't sound cool.
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So I'm going to get you out of here.
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Yeah.
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And I think that, look, obviously I think excommunication, that kind of stuff is bad.
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Sure.
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But the alternative and the opposite side is bad too.
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Yeah.
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Which is like, I think people who are Christians would probably listen to stuff like this and
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be like, I don't connect with any of this.
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This is nonsense.
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The fuck are you talking about?
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And when we resist any categorization, it allows someone who has the kind of beliefs
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of Alex and Russell to gain the power of the name Christian.
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Yeah.
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And I think that that's irresponsible too.
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That's exactly it.
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That is exactly it.
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When you are allowed to represent Christianity like this, you are saying that it's okay for
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this to be what Christianity is.
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Yeah.
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And you're stealing the masses of followers of something that is not what you believe.
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Right.
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You're like, look how many Christians there are.
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Right.
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And you imagine and you pretend that it's like, people believe the same shit you do.
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And it's not.
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Yeah.
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It's putting a fucking Christ on top of esoteric bullshit.
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Yeah.
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It's whatever.
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Who cares?
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What you gonna do?
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Yeah.
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So Russell, I mean, it's a pleasant enough conversation.
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I understand that.
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Yeah.
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But I really do get the feeling that he does not really like Alex that much and vice versa.
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And it's sometimes hard to hide.
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Yeah.
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Because you have this extraordinary imagination and capacity for information and you range
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into Galactically and cosmologically, Alex, you move from Mephilim blue to interdimensional
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war, which I suppose is what the Smurfs and Gargamel are doing.
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Maybe.
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By the way, is Mephilim blue Smurf blood?
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Let's stop.
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Tell us the truth, Fauci.
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Tell us the truth, Fauci.
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Is Mephilim blue?
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It's Smurf blood.
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They got Gargamel in there.
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Hold on.
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He's got puppet Smurf.
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He's got puppet Smurfs nuts.
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I want to see what happens.
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Gargamel's squeezing them nuts.
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And that's Mephilim blue.
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And I'm angry about it.
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You said you were going to take it.
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All right, I'll drink it.
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I want to see how it hits you before the show ends.
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Go ahead.
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Listen, I'm going to treat the rest of this interview as a contest between me and you.
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Who can say the craziest stuff?
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Who can drink the craziest substances?
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This is war now, Jones.
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I mean, I just think there is a disrespect.
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Yeah.
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That's implicit in all of this.
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And why wouldn't there be?
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Yeah.
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It started off super disrespectfully on Alex's part.
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There's an inherent disrespect to the moment you do an impression of another person.
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Yeah.
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Like in any power situation where somebody has more power than you and you do an impression
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of them, that's not going to go well for you.
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Even when there's not.
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Right.
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Even when there's not a power difference.
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It's usually just rude in a regular way.
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Buh buh buh, I'm Jordan.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, that's not cool.
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That's kind of mean to me.
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I didn't...
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I don't know why you did that.
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Because I'm being rude.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So if you're going up to somebody's face and choosing the one thing about them that has
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made them a fucking joke on the internet for decades, and then yelling it in their voice
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at them without a riff.
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There's no riff here.
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Well, no, there is.
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Right.
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It's insulting his business strategy and how he overhypes these products.
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Sure.
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Like, that is the riff.
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That is the joke.
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Right.
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And it's just a joke that can't be taken seriously or even humorously in the context of Alex's
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show.
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Right.
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Because it unfortunately penetrates...
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Exactly.
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...what the show is actually about.
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We have to do a completely different show if we follow this riff the way it's supposed
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to go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, look, whenever I say stupid shit in Alex's voice, I don't do it because it's
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an homage.
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No.
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When I will put on an Alex voice.
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At any and all times, every human being putting on an Alex voice is in some way making fun
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of him for what he is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think there's a...
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I just thought of Gavin McGinnis arguing that Blackface was reverent.
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Yeah, there is that.
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There is no reverent Alex impression.
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No.
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It's always insulting.
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No.
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Nobody's like doing dueling carsons.
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Like, oh, this is...
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Remember whenever comedy used to be great.
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This is not the same thing.
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So this clip is not connected to much, but it's a little piece of lore that we need.
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So this is just for the future.
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Okay.
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You know, my dad did get it.
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I got methylene blue on my hand.
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My dad did get it.
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Samarka the beast.
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My dad...
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I've told this forever, but they always have this as a secret.
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Oh, we found the sound.
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No, my dad got recruited into MKUltra.
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Oh yeah, I know.
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I've heard you say that before.
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Look, I want to just ask...
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He didn't know.
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He thought he was joining NASA.
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But that's the reason I know that.
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Alex, I've got a series of questions.
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You can't be taking someone seriously if that's your response to,
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my dad was in MKUltra, but he thought he was in NASA.
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Yeah, I heard you.
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I heard you say that before.
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Anyways, moving on.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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That would be very interesting if it for any moment I thought it was true.
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Yeah.
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Even a little bit.
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If for a second I thought there was any dignity in taking you seriously,
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I would have a follow up question.
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There have been like 100 documentaries on MKUltra.
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There have been like a thousand books on MKUltra.
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There have been documents upon documents upon documents.
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I understand that the ones that the CIA destroyed no longer exist,
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but I doubt they were purely about David Jones.
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They were all about dentistry.
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They were all David Jones related.
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Those are the only documents the CIA managed to get rid of.
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Fine.
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Perfect cover up.
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I mean, obviously there's no way that anybody ever thought to talk to this guy before.
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Never.
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Nope.
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He's very private.
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Yep, absolutely.
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He only has a son who's got one of the loudest fucking bullshit shows on the world.
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Yeah.
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If he was like involved in MKUltra and all this stuff,
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like ask some questions about your dad.
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Start to dig in there.
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I mean, come on.
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Anyway, there's a lot of talk in the world about people being paid by governments.
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Sure.
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In order to push propaganda.
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Naturally.
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And what have you.
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Right.
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And Russell is like, no one's ever given me any money.
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I've never been offered anything of you.
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I've never had anyone like from Mossad or any deep state agency say to me,
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we'll give you 10 million dollars.
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That's because you've been assessed, Russell.
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Yes.
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I'm too crazy.
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You're too crazy.
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Well, I have been.
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I didn't say that.
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Oh, yeah.
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But even though they said, well, we did the assessments,
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we don't think you're going to take it, but you know you're going to be destroyed if you don't.
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I tell you some of the stories if you want.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There were off the record meetings, but
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the point is, is that I can tell you the general stuff.
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It's 100 percent real.
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Hey, dipshit, no one buys it.
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We're all we're sitting here in the room and you have like Alex has lost confidence in his own
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thing here.
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You can feel the energy leave his body.
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Yep.
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When when Russell's like, I haven't been offered money.
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Oh, you've been assessed.
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Oh, so you've been assessed, too.
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No, no.
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They assessed me and they said they'd still give me money, but they knew I wasn't going
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to take it and then I would be destroyed anyway.
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Do you want to hear the stories of the times that the devil talked to me and told me the
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share, buddy?
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Yeah, this is the type of stuff that you would hear in third grade and you'd be like, wow,
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you're very immature or you're so creative.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, there's definitely some of that.
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You've got quite an imagination on your kid.
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Oh, it's just so much over and over and over again.
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Like, I want you to think I'm cool.
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Look at all these cool things.
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I'm showing you all of my toys in my in my room.
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Look, here's my dad.
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He was an MK Ultra.
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Isn't that cool?
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It's so cool.
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Isn't that cool?
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No, no, even the sounds that he's making are literally like that third grader.
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I'm not interested in your toys.
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They're the sounds of a person who's like, I think it's embarrassing if I just agree
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with you.
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I think some people who like me would look down upon me if I had that.
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My social status goes down.
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Yeah, yeah, you're embarrassing.
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So Russell starts to talk about how he's moved to Florida.
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And since he's moved to Florida, he's realized that there's an attack on men.
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These men, they're who we need in a crisis, right?
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Because men, they shoot guns better and they fight back better and they're strong and they
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have muscles.
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Oh my God.
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Right.
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So the globalists and the man, they're attacking men.
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Sure.
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So when the crisis comes, the men won't be able to help.
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Makes sense.
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Do you know what I felt like now that I live in Florida among Floridians in the panhandle,
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I started to understand that the vilification of men with protector capacity is in order
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to ensure that they aren't given their rightful position in the forthcoming conflict, i.e.
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We should look to and honor those.
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Yeah, the enemy attacks.
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Or a lot of them are rapists.
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So if you undermine those men and talk about those men as if they're fundamentally misogynist
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or racist or rapist.
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Ah, you mean the rapist you are.
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Of conflict, recognize where your leaders are going to come from, your leaders and your
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warriors.
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You're not from the rapists class.
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The British intelligence right said because they've studied all the world, the whole world
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is powerful in a war with their control by government idiots in all the Pentagon documents
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and the leftist.
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They say we're worried about the Scots and the Irish and then a subset, the Brits, which
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you know, are totally cowed in their countries.
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But the spirit of that, which founded America, the text revolution, the in the enemy war
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games, they're obsessed.
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They said the rebellious of the Scots, the spirit of that is in America.
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It must be crushed in official putting on documents.
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They obsess over that.
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Oh, they just obsess about the Scots.
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Fucking obsessed with the Scots.
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The Scots are too rebellious.
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The British intelligence has studied the world right now.
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It just so happens they're really focused on the people in their backyards.
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Is that crazy?
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But also there's a piece of this too, where Alex is like the British intelligence studied
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the world.
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And then he starts talking about the Pentagon and like the Army War College and the globalists
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and the leftists.
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What happened to the British intelligence?
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I mean, you know, they go all over the map.
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They picked the Scots.
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And so then the Pentagon was like, well, obviously the Scots, right?
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But then the Scots moved to Texas.
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Yeah, they did the Texas revolution.
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So then now the Scots stole part of Mexico, I guess, for some reason.
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Along with the Irish.
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Right.
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Well, but I mean, we were going to give it back.
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Right.
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That was the plan.
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Just borrowing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's like a ladder.
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Yeah.
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So I get that Russell was trying to come in here with a misogyny men's rights kind of
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angle.
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And Alex has now hijacked this and taken this in a pretty racist direction.
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Yeah.
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And it's not just that the Scots are good.
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It's that white people seem to be the only people capable of leadership.
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So strange how that works.
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So what I felt like around Florida is that these men with their trucks and their guns
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and their hunting and their competence and their confidence, these men are very, very
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important that they are honored.
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The only people left for a reaction and they can inspire the Hispanics, the blacks, everybody
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into leadership.
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So the enemy's assessed it and they're worried about classic British Isles will.
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Yeah.
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Can't imagine why MSNBC would say you're racist.
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Can't imagine.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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Weirdest thing.
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There's no you didn't even need that.
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You didn't need that.
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You could have just left the implied racism there.
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You didn't need to be like, and then they'll bring the blacks up.
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Like, what are you doing?
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Their courage will inspire the Hispanics and the blacks.
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This is the fifties.
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These classic English Isles.
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The only people who can take action.
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That did sound so tired at the end.
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You know, the English Isles.
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Can you imagine talking to Russell for an hour?
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That would be exhausting.
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It would be so tiring.
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Yeah.
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I don't, I don't fault his fatigue.
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Oh, it does feel sometimes like Russell Brand is like an emotional vampire.
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Just drags everything out of you.
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That might just be the Gothic heroine-y vibe.
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That's true.
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You think vampire.
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That's good.
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That could be.
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So Russell apparently saw a picture of General Patton in the Infowars office.
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Right.
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And so he asks Alex about that.
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Okay.
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And then weirdly, they just start praying.
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So why are you obsessed with Patton then?
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Why do you like General Patton?
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What do you think is unique about Patton?
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I see you've got a picture of him out there.
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And I know that like what I like about him, particularly how he was played by George C.
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Scott, is that if you could take it down most of the pictures, because we've been almost
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shut down a few times.
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So I like Patton, but it's kind of a few pictures they left up.
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I think it's a newer thing.
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Chase me.
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I mean, he was a direct general and he knew what was going on and he was straight up.
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He knew what was up.
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He knew mercilessly, viciously.
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You made me exhausted.
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You're gonna be more exhausted.
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I mean, we like that spirit.
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We like the spirit of battle, the spirit of fighting and the spirit of fortitude.
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Hey, maybe we should do that prayer now, Alex.
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Please, lead us in it.
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Gracious God, please, Lord.
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I ask to speak to you, God, as you know yourself to be not my limited, childish conceptions
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of what God is.
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Impressions painted in my mind by a culture that wants me separated from you, Lord.
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Remove from me all which is not in your service.
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My vanity, my narcissism, my need for attention, my constant need for love and approval.
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I will say that just limited exposure.
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He's a better prayer than Alex.
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That's true.
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Alex's prayers are very...
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They're too familiar.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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They're angry and they usually are very clearly like, I need something.
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Give it to me now.
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Well, I mean, that's the benefit of having a British education though, is you do get
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a lot more of that language built up within you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he said innocuous earlier.
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I don't think Alex has ever said innocuous in his life.
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Probably not.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, he goes on.
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It's a longish prayer.
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That sounds right.
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But yeah, it's jumping from a picture of Patton to, hey, let's do that prayer.
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So it just feels all over the place.
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It feels unnecessary too.
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They've already discussed whether or not they were going to pray earlier, like with the
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talk about the public thing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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What are we doing here?
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It feels like these people want to not be here, right?
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But they could both not be there.
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Yeah, but there's a little bit of money in being there.
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Is there enough money to justify spending an hour with Alex Jones?
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That's my question.
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Well, again, I refer you back to earlier when I was saying that Russell seems very desperate
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to not admit that this is the bottom of the barrel.
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That's a good point.
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So yeah, maybe it is worth it to spend a little time with Alex.
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I mean, he's living in Florida, so he's probably used to this kind of conversational speed.
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Yeah, probably.
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So they start talking a bit about Trump.
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Russell is insane.
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He seems to think that Trump is like a King David type figure.
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Great.
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Which is just nuts.
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Your review of the Trump administration in the last 11 months in office or 10 months
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in office, your positive points, your negative points and what you see the enemy's going
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to throw at us.
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Don't you feel like Trump in a sense is a creature created by America's imagination,
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the America of the 80s with all of its entrepreneurialism?
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If America was to create its own perfect king and-
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He's a ghost of America's greatness.
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A ghost of America's greatness, a beautiful way of putting it.
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Of course, he flew around in a plane with his own name on it.
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Of course, he literally drinks Diet Coke and eats McDonald's.
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That's what the American mystic would do.
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That's what the American anointed King, the David of America, I suppose he is in some
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kind of way fallen and broken, but a bulwark to the systems that would have succeeded without
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the intervention of the movement.
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Of course, I am noticing that those wars are continuing.
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Of course, I'm noticing that there appear to be interests that are supranational, i.e.
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outside of the US government and outside of the US nation that seem to have undue influence
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on American foreign policy.
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So obviously he's talking about a suspiciousness about Israel, but I can't tell just from this
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interview and not knowing too much about this ding-dongs consistent work, but he's saying
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I'm noticing these things.
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And a lot of anti-Semitic people...
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The noticing is the noticing.
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Well, but that is a code that a lot of people use, but at the same time, it's also a normal
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word.
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To say noticing.
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Which is the problem with dog whistly type stuff.
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Well, it's why it works.
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Exactly.
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So I would be remiss if I didn't say that's mighty suspicious, but at the same time, it
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could be a coincidence and he's not expressing an anti-Semitic undertone.
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It's hard to say.
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Here's another one.
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New challenge.
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New challenge rule.
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That's a foul.
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So you call foul.
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You have to immediately establish.
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Do you mean that or do you not mean that?
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Yeah.
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Gotta do what you gotta do.
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Yeah.
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Then we can move on with your next thought, but you can't continue unless I know for sure.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you wink at me, we gotta clear up or you wink at me.
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Yeah, exactly.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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Did you blink poorly or did you wink at me?
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Yeah.
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And I'm inclined to just go ahead and say, I don't really care.
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You suck because you're saying that Trump is King David anointed leader of America.
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Yeah.
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And it makes his point is interesting.
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And it's because there's this idea that like, what image would we conjure out of our imagination?
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Sure.
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And yeah, Trump is a leader that would come out of the lies and cocaine of the 80s.
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Sure.
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Like, yes, the lie of America would create Trump, not the real ambition and the real
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spirit of what this country runs on.
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We already did Bateman.
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We got it.
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We nailed it.
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We didn't need to watch that guy become King.
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No, but we are.
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Yeah, that's a problem.
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And they think he's King David.
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I mean, I always remember that.
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So I remember that story.
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And I remember thinking, like, man, that guy must not have gone to heaven.
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You're talking about Patrick Bateman?
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No, no, no.
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So King David, he's like sending that guy and he's like, hey, go fight in that war.
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And then he go fucks that guy's wife.
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Right.
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And then that guy dies and they don't really feel bad about it.
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And then later on, God's like, that guy's super cool.
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Love that guy.
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Right.
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So the guy who died in the war that he didn't need to fight, he probably couldn't have gone
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to heaven.
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Right.
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Because if God is looking down at David like, that guy's fucking great.
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You're looking over at God being like, that guy fucking, he fucked my wife.
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Yeah.
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You know, he murdered me and then fucked my wife.
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Right.
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Right.
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So God can't be cool with that guy.
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That guy's got to be in hell.
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But you don't know that he's all that mad.
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That's small minded of you.
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I mean, that's fair.
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Maybe that guy's like, he fucked my wife, but I get it.
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He's a great leader.
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No, no, no, I get it.
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I get it.
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Maybe he's got that kind of long term thinking.
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Yeah.
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I don't remember from the story what his take on it was.
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I don't think he gets a take.
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I think that if you are God and you're in a situation where it's like, I fucking love
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this guy, but he sent that guy to die and he banged his wife.
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He's like the Russell brand of guys.
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I would just be like, that guy gets into heaven.
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We give him a pass.
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Like, we just got to smooth this one over.
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Like, let him in.
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Like, okay, so maybe the guy is a real piece of shit, right?
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And God was all ready to be like, I'm going to get rid of your ass.
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Oh, David, you got to let this guy in.
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Yeah, grease the wheel.
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David fucked up.
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Yeah, that happens.
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We're covering up for David's mistakes.
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It's like a Nepo baby thing.
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We got to give this guy, we got to blackmail him.
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I think Russell's stupid.
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Yep.
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So Alex has some thoughts about what's going on with the Trump administration vis-a-vis
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the government shutdown and what have you.
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Right.
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And he just directly lies.
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I feel that we will experience successive crises until the institutions that benefit
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from crises are dismantled.
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And they include global bureaucracies that are unelected, deep state interests, but also
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powerful corporate and commercial interests.
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All of them, as you've described, are articulately, beautifully, and passionately for many years
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are interwoven and interconnected and they're deeply robust and potent.
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You won't get a better example other than on Alex Jones on Infowars than that speech
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from network.
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That is how power operates.
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I remember General Parton, head of reverse weapons development, told me 30 years ago
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when they cut off SNAP, you know they're doing the uprising.
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And now the Supreme Court just blocked Trump trying to turn SNAP back on.
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SNAP is the food.
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SNAP is the food.
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SNAP is the food.
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So Alex is an absolute unrepentant liar.
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He knows fully well that the Trump administration has been attacking SNAP benefits and actually
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has filed suit to get states to repay for benefits that they distributed.
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Alex knows how severe of a situation this is and that a lot of his audience is probably
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impacted directly by SNAP being frozen.
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So it isn't something he can just ignore.
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The reality of the assistance programs being taken away is going to be a real wake up call
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for a lot of these people and it's going to make a lot of them very mad or dead.
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The only way to play this is to say that Trump was trying to save SNAP payments but the evil
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globalists won't let him pay it out.
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It's the direct opposite of reality and it runs counter to Trump's underlying political
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ideology.
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But taking away vulnerable people's access to food is such a transparently monstrous
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thing to do that Alex has to make this up.
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Like he can't justify this on any level.
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Yeah.
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It's all like mental masturbation when you're talking about cutting government excess.
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Yeah.
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And talking about the red tape and trim the fat and what have you.
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But when people are left to starve, that's not abstract anymore.
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This is quite real.
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It's the end result of what you want and the politics that you support.
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Yep.
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So fucking own it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's just one of those ones that's like, it is the fault of everybody that it's
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on the table.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right?
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Like in the same way that abortion is not just like losing abortion is not just the
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fault of the people who like got rid of it.
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It's the fault of people who didn't codify it.
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It shouldn't be on the table at all.
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Right.
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It should be off the table.
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If it's on the table, then it's there to use.
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So if you're using food, you're not the good guy.
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Giving it out or taking it away is not making you the good guy.
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You should remove it from the table.
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Yeah.
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That's the problem.
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And that's honestly, I think, what we need to just make as like a cornerstone.
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Food.
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Everybody eats.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Like the unnegotiable.
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Exactly.
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Nothing like, no, go fuck yourself.
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I don't care.
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Nope.
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Right wing, left wing.
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I don't give a fuck about any of that stuff.
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Nope.
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People got to eat.
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Yep.
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Everybody eats and then we can...
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Give people the food.
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There's no argument about, oh, how can we compromise on who gets the most?
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Nope.
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Everybody eats.
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But my DNA is magical and it's a transmission from God.
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Don't care.
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We can argue about tax percentage or whatever the fuck you want, but everybody eats.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That would be nice.
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It would be nice.
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So I have recently taken to nature.
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Sure.
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I've gone to the woods.
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You enjoy it.
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And I hate to say this, but this is a place where Alex and I agree that nature is kind of like a drug.
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And that it is restorative and it really, it makes you feel good.
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We're animals.
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We're animals.
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We need to connect with our lives.
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So I'm going to agree with Alex for a little bit here, and then I'm going to say something very insulting.
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E.
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Well, nature's a drug.
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Everybody knows it's not some secret, but anytime I really get depressed if I do, I just go swimming and hiking and just rolling around in the grass.
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I'm just energized.
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You roll around in grass.
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I'd really like to come across you one day in a meadow, Alex.
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I'd like to be going for a dog walk and find Alex Jones rolling around in grass.
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That's what I'd like to do.
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I'm refreshing myself.
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There's precious ions in here.
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There's electrolytes in the soil.
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It's filling me up.
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There's nothing like hiking in the middle of nowhere and just walking into a lake.
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Hey, motherfucker, how about you keep walking into that lake with a heavy coat on?
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Just keep walking, you piece of shit.
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Just walk down there.
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What a perfect thing.
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Serene.
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Just keep walking into that lake.
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I mean, I know it's hard to walk with cement shoes, but if you just get all the way in there.
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I think I'll be fine with the results.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, man.
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Couldn't think of a better, better, more calm place for you to drown.
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At a certain point, don't you have to be like, hey, don't do that voice of me.
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That was fucking mean.
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That one was bullshit.
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That one wasn't even close to funny or anything.
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That was just a mean.
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There's electrolytes in the dirt.
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Yeah, that's a mean thing you're saying to me.
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You're being mean to me.
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Well, I think it's because I don't like you.
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I know.
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Now we have one more clip.
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Okay.
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And Alex has been talking about going out and walking into a lake and how great that is.
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Great.
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He took a walk.
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He saw this fucking heron.
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What a bird.
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So he took a picture of this bird.
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Okay.
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And he wants to show the picture of the bird to Russell.
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So we're getting literal.
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I want you to think I'm cool.
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Here's a picture of an animal.
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Here's a bird I saw.
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Here we go.
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Now I have to think that this is a passive aggressive act.
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Okay.
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But Russell starts praying again.
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Oh, dear Lord, give me the fuck out of this place.
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Jesus Christ.
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I'll drop the British egg.
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This is what I said.
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I'm from Florida.
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No, no.
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He starts praying for Alex to be forgiven about saying.
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Okay, well, that's mean.
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I'm just looking at these herons and all the rest of this.
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But the point is, I'll show you some video of this.
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Yeah.
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My point is, is that that's the drug.
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That's when I'm depressed.
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Let me put you over here.
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I think this morning, five feet tall.
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That's a beautiful heron, man.
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Crane or crane or whatever it is.
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I think as a heron, and it's a bird of wisdom.
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It's a bird of wisdom.
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And it's not that we believe in superstition or nothing like
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that, but he communicates to us through nature.
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He's primary creation.
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Yeah, that's a beautiful, beautiful heron.
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Heavenly Father, pray for absolution and forgiveness for Alex.
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You are the Supreme God.
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You are the Supreme God, not the state, not the media, not
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a set of governmental interests.
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And we pray forgiveness for any transgressions perceived or
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real Lord around the matter of Sandy Hook.
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Absolute forgiveness and atonement through your blood.
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I pray for the people that were affected for the people that
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lost their children.
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And I pray your forgiveness for your son, Alex Jones, for
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the great work that he does and continues to do.
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I pray your blessing and your forgiveness and stop praying.
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What the fuck, buddy?
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I'm not supposed to be apologizing for anything, asshole.
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What the fuck are you doing?
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You bring up my rape trial.
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I bring up Sandy Hook.
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Now what?
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Yeah.
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Now what?
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Who's got who on this one?
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The bird of wisdom has visited you.
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Lord, I just want to pray.
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I want you to give your healing hand to the syphilis that
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this man has.
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Alex Jones, I want God to heal you of your syphilis right
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now, my son.
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I do think that there's something incredibly mean about
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that prayer.
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Yeah, it's very mean prayer.
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There's a passive aggression that is undeniable.
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I understand.
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I get why it would be passive aggressive coming from any
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other context.
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I think this is open aggression.
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I think this is a borderline slap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I can't fully disagree.
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Why did you bring up Sandy Hook on me?
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Because the bird of wisdom.
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Exactly.
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Bullshit.
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I saw this great heron.
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No, no, no, no, foul.
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I demand you explain yourself right now.
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I don't know, man.
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I think that these dudes are incompatible as media entities.
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I think their vibes are bad.
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Yep.
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I think their vibes individually are bad, but then mixed
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together, it's like chocolate on pizza or something like
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that.
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It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Stop.
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Good.
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I think there's some elements of this that are funny, but
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I also recognize in hindsight that this was never going to
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give you superpowers.
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No, it's not the right kind of annoying.
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No, he's so annoying, but it's the wrong vibration.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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And there's a certain amount of satisfaction from just like
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a visceral American feeling of an idiot interrupting a
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British man saying nothing.
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That's what we're here for.
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Sure.
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That's what God put us on America for.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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And I think that there is something visceral, too, about
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like, dude, you fucked it all up.
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Yeah.
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Like you had the life and you just couldn't handle it.
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And now you're doing this.
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So I think there's a schadenfreude about watching him
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have to talk to Alex.
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Sure.
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And I think that that takes a lot of the edge off of whatever
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annoyance there could be.
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Like, if he had just not been himself and played his card
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slightly differently, he could be like a go to guy for
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comedic movies.
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You're not wrong.
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He would never be Seth Rogen.
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No, no.
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But Jonah Hill had a thing he did, you know?
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And they just put him in that.
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Aziz Ansari was just in that new Keanu Reeves and Seth Rogen
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movie.
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And he's not doing something new.
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He wrote and directed that movie also.
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I'll tell you, here's what it is for me.
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And here's what I would guess it is for Alex, too, is for
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all the times that Russell Brand can do an Alex impression
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to Alex's face and say mean things.
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At the end of the day, Alex gets to say you had to come
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here. True.
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You know, and that's the ultimate, like, you're pathetic.
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Well, it's a double edged sword because I know what here
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is. Yeah.
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And also, if you're like, you came here, it would be easy
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for us to just say you would have come to me if I ever asked.
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Sure, totally.
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So it's a hollow victory to be like, well, to be either
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of these guys is hollow all the time.
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Yeah, I guess take your victories where you can get them,
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right? Yeah.
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Well, this disappoints me because I don't know what other
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kind of annoying we're going to have to find.
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I like talking to people who are fun and we have fun, right?
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Like, I don't even understand this conversation.
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This is not fun, nor is it informative.
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I don't understand this conversation.
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Dear Lord, I would like to pray.
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I would like to pray for Jordan to understand this conversation.
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Lord, don't let anybody know I'm here.
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I have been demolished.
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Let my embarrassment be completed.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know either.
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I can't explain, but we'll be back another episode.
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Indeed we will.
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Some other asshole.
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Yep.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo!
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.