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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your Bright Spot today buddy?
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My Bright Spot today, we're continuing.
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It's MacGyver.
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It's MacGyver.
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I love this fucking show.
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So here's the deal.
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Okay.
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I've described to you some of the episodes of MacGyver
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up to this point.
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Yes, you have.
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And how would you characterize the antagonists on this show?
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The people who he's going up against?
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I mean, I would go probably like face but in front of an
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organization, you know, like I'm the evil guy, but actually
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I work for Bluge Bluge evil corporation.
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Maybe but like a terrorist group of some sort.
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Someone with an evil plan.
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Borderline comic book villain, but pull it back to be like
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a factory owner.
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Yeah, so I'm on episode 6.
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Yeah, and here's what happens.
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He gets a call from a buddy of his who's in the Amazon.
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Okay, birds are scared.
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And so this guy and the birds are scared birds are scared.
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Okay, this guy in the Amazon is like I got to call in MacGyver.
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We got to see what the fuck's going on with this.
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Birds are scared end of sentence.
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There's something going on deep in the jungle.
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Uh-huh.
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And you know, you obviously are thinking well, this is going
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to be some sort of a mining operation.
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There's gonna need a whatever.
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Yeah, MacGyver's got to kick some ass.
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Of course placate the birds.
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Otherwise, he's just an ornithologist, right?
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Mmm.
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Yeah, so he goes and helps his buddy.
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Uh-huh.
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They end up finding this guy named Trumbo who always runs
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a chocolate plantation.
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In the middle of the Amazon.
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Because they need they need a guide to take them into the
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Amazon and the local authorities.
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No one will allow right.
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I got to go talk to Trumbo.
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Yeah, they go to this guy's chocolate place.
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He eventually agrees to take them himself.
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So they go on a trek into the Amazon.
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Okay to find the big villain of the episode ants.
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All right.
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It's a so he is an ornithologist.
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It's a bunch of ants.
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Wait, so there's a bunch of ants.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So how is MacGyver's specific skill set going to apply to
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lot of ants?
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Hmm.
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Well, you know, they try a bunch of things.
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What naturally so that yeah, everybody runs away from the
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plantation because they're scared of the ants.
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Are they the kind of ants that are just like I they'll just
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overflow everything.
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Okay.
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All right miles just unstoppable ants MacGyver's buddy trips
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and falls into the ants dead eaten immediately immediately.
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All right, so there's a lot of ants we're talking about scary
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ants.
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Yeah, this has happened before there have been ant landslides
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or whatever, but I don't think they kill you that fast.
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I don't know.
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I've never been eaten by ants before right?
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It's it's a terrifying situation.
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Yeah, and so MacGyver and Trumbo have to figure out how to
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protect the plantation.
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Sure.
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And so their first option is to flood some of the stuff some
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of the build like a moat thing.
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Yeah, right, right.
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I know that answer to smart for your fucking moat.
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They can build boats out of ants.
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No, no, no.
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Oh, not quite.
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Okay.
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What they do is they end up going up the trees and biting
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leaves off the trees, which they then use as bugs.
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Brilliant the masterminds.
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So MacGyver constructs a flamethrower, right?
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So it's going to keep them at bay once they have crossed the moat.
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Right, naturally.
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So they of course build rock walls.
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No the fire they run out of fuel.
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Okay, that'll happen.
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And so MacGyver has to construct a suit a protective suit
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and make a bomb to blow the dam that'll flood the entire
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Valley. Okay and drown all the ants.
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All right, so he manages to do that.
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Okay, and they save the chocolate plantation.
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Now I put this forth to you.
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Perhaps there should have been a consultation with somebody
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about whether or not it's more important for the ants to
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be there than the chocolate plantation.
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Yeah, I think there's a question of it being a natural thing
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natural force.
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Excuse me, Mr.
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MacGyver.
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Can you please tell me the story again?
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You built a suit and then blew up our dam unilaterally without
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talking to anybody?
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In this case the world we are expected to understand.
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Yeah, the dam only exists in order to facilitate the chocolate
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plantation.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So it's not screwing over any other local agriculture.
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Self-contained.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I got you.
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I got you.
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Yeah, it's a sacrifice that they make in order to save the
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plantation from the ants.
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Fair enough.
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My concerns are taken care of.
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It's fucking insane that it's ants.
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Why MacGyver?
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He's friends with the bird guy.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But what else does this guy call MacGyver about?
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Everything?
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Does this guy call MacGyver on-
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Every time an animal is fucking scared.
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Yeah, right?
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Like a drop of the hat.
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Like MacGyver!
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Yeah.
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Why him?
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Why MacGyver?
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I don't know, but it's great.
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And why not, once you find out it's ants, why not find a-
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Why not call an ant guy?
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Well, the guy who calls in MacGyver is like really excited
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about it being ants and he starts taking pictures of them.
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Right.
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Which is what leads to his death because he is not paying
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attention and falls into the ants.
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The fool.
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Also, Trumbo is played by a guy named David Ackroyd.
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Which I was sure was Dan Ackroyd's brother.
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Not related.
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Nope.
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Unrelated.
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Crazy.
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Just coincidence.
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Yeah.
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They're more than one name.
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But Ackroyd?
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I've never heard it, but once.
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Yeah.
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So.
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot, Dan, is-
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Oh, wait, sorry.
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Yeah.
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No kisses.
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No kisses.
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No smooches?
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Not even one?
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Well, I mean, listen.
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It's all dudes.
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You're not gonna want to kiss those ants.
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Yeah, and it's all like dudes he's helping, really.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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At one point, he does save a villager who's trapped under
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a boat and she was a woman.
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Right.
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And I was like, oh, he's gonna kiss that lady.
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Not the time.
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Not the time.
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We're still running away from ants.
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Yeah, too many ants.
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Too many ants in the business.
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But I'm sorry, I interrupted.
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Sure.
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No, no, no problem.
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My bright spot is that there's a guy who plays baseball.
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His name is Shohei Ohtani.
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I heard him.
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Right.
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Now, he's very good at baseball, but he did something that
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is not possible.
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He played in the fourth game of the National League Championship
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Series. This is the game that they were up three to nothing.
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This is the game that would take them to the World Series.
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This would send them to the World Series.
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Shohei Ohtani was pitching in this game, naturally.
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He was also hitting because he's the only player in the world
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who can do that.
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So the first thing you did in the first inning was he struck
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out the side, right?
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Three guys.
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Strike, strike!
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Gone.
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Right?
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And then the next thing he did, the very next thing you
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did, because he's the pitcher and the leadoff hitter was he
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struck out the side and then he went and hit a home run.
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That's embarrassing.
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That's disrespectful.
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It is very disrespectful.
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It's very disrespectful.
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But now let me tell you what happens over the next several
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innings.
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He strikes out seven more people.
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That's good.
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In six innings, no runs, and then he hits two more home runs.
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Jesus.
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The man hit three home runs, threw six innings, struck out ten, won the game by himself.
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He's like the MacGyver of baseball.
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It's insane.
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It's not possible to do that stuff.
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Do you think that he's bored?
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No, no, because not only that, not only did he do those things, he didn't just, you know,
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because there have been pitchers who threw sheer luck or adrenaline or whatever, who
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have won games single-handedly in the past, in the postseason.
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Thrown nine inning, complete game, shot out, hit a home run, won the game, that whole thing.
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Jeff Supon.
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Something like that.
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Yeah, yeah, maybe.
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One of those Cardinals guys I think hit a home run.
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It would be somebody hit a home run that just barely makes it out, 348 feet, something like
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that.
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Shonio Tani hit a baseball outside of the baseball park.
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Right, and it's one of three home runs.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The total of which they put it together was like 1,400 feet between the three of them.
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They're inventing new ways to say he hit the ball really far.
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They have to try and create new forms of like, oh, well, if you lined up all of his home
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runs back to back to back, it would be a mile.
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And we've already had Bugs Bunny do the like stickers on the ball.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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So he can't do that.
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That's fucking nuts.
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It is.
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It's genuinely nuts.
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There's like, you couldn't imagine if you had written something like if Carl Sandburg
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or Ring Lardner was writing a like, baseball player sells his soul to the devil to become
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the greatest baseball player of all time, the devil would make him a really good hitter.
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Because to do both of those things would be unrealistic.
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It really seems to like he's going to have some real bad medical problems, just from
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a physics standpoint of like how much strain that's putting on your arm to pitch that much
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and hit.
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I think he might be made of solid steel.
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Man.
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He's a tree.
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He's either a tree or he's still young.
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He could hit 30 and then just be like, you're dead now.
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He's 31.
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Oh, fuck.
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Yeah, no, he's unstoppable.
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Okay.
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He is an unstoppable, perfect hitting move.
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It's ridiculous.
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Wow.
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You shouldn't be able to do those things.
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Well, good for him.
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It's great.
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Good for him.
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Breaking records.
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The greatest to ever do a thing.
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But that's what I'm saying is at a certain point you kind of have to start to get bored
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unless someone can step up to be as good as you.
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There was a moment when he hit his second home run, which was on a pitch that was about
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a foot inside off the plate.
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Like you can't hit that pitch for a hit, let alone a thousand feet of it.
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But there was a moment and he hit it and his shoulders slumped like that.
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And he just looked up at it like, God damn, I'm too good at this.
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Sorry I'm so good.
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I am too good at this.
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Right.
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There's a point where-
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Apologies everybody.
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There's a point where humility doesn't work anymore and you have to turn into a huge narcissist,
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crazy person.
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I mean, there was the Michael Jordan game where famously he's just going, I don't even
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know what's going on here, buddy.
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I'm just great.
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What are you going to do?
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That was very much where we're at with Shohei.
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Yeah.
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And we saw what happened with Jordan.
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He went crazy.
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Yeah.
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But this guy, he's got a dog.
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Jordan had a dog.
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Ah, but he didn't like him.
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Yeah, probably.
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His dog was called gambling.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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It is the conclusion of Alex and Tucker having their little bowl session.
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And I was thinking about maybe not covering this, but I'm deeply committed to giving you
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superpowers.
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And I really want to see this thing through.
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God damn.
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So I take it it got a lot better.
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It's good.
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Yeah.
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So we're going to talk about this, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to
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some new walks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, thanks for keeping my grad school commute from KC to Columbia entertaining compared
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to what y'all do.
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An archeology thesis is a piece of cake.
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Regards future curator of the Smithsonian secret Nephilim bones.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Columbia, go down to power plant over there.
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It's across from the Taco Bell on Providence.
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Next my spouse is currently receiving top surgery as I type this.
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I'm listening to your episode 1068 to distract my anxiety.
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I would love to get a shout for a shout out for, I guess you could say my titty loser
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baby.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm so proud of you for going back to school.
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Sorry for making you spend half of your free time listening to the worst ever Nazi shit
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to figure out what mint chips whole deal is.
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And I pray one day there may be free from that curse entirely.
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I am doubtful.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a second credit to make sure.
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So thank you so much to this subscription is being paid for by a collective comp comprised
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of one hand, two ducks, three squatting geese, four limerick oysters, five corpulent porpoises,
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old men on roller skates with a marked propensity towards procrastination and sloth, and 10
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lyrical spherical diabolical denizens of the deep who all stall through the corner of the
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quo of the quay of the quivery all at the same time.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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So thrilled to have Gary Busey on board.
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That's awesome.
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That was, that was, you need to hear it to actually understand what, cause I read a little
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bit of that and I was like, well, I don't know what's going on here.
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But then the moment you started reading it, I was like, Oh fuck.
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Good call.
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Yep.
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Well done.
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So we jumped back in after Alex's bathroom break, which ended our last episode and they
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start talking a little bit about the COVID and vaccines and stuff.
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And this is a important issue to touch on because Trump just recently got another COVID
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vaccine and the flu vaccine.
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And it seems like he shouldn't have done that.
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Well, based on all their beliefs.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well.
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So Trump got the Vax, the COVID Vax.
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That's right.
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Uh, last week he bragged when he got his medical exam that he got the new experimental flu
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shot and the, uh, Pfizer booster, which his own HHS had basically said, don't give it
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a pregnant women and women and, and, and, and adults and that they've proven a racist
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your immune system is absolutely horrible.
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But after he had, uh, Albert Borla a few weeks ago at the white house, praising Pfizer,
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uh, he's now gone on and gotten it as a PR stunt.
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So that really pissed off Trump's constituents.
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And we, you know, we hope he didn't really take it cause we need the big guy.
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Well, yeah.
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And I think there's, unless I'm misreading it, there's seems like a legitimate and very
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large study out of South Korea that shows a connection between the COVID vaccine cancer
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because of the effects on the human immune system and turns it off.
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So the anti-vax folks have a new fun study to tout that allegedly shows that the COVID
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vaccine is killing everyone, but it's just another sloppy piece of inconclusive bullshit.
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This is a retrospective study that looked at people who got the COVID vaccine a year
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later and tried to assess relative risks of developing cancer and found that for many
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cancer types, the risk was significantly increased.
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On the surface, this looks like something that works for Alex's argument, but it's a
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bad paper for a number of reasons.
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The first is that the authors didn't consider confounding variables, like people having
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family histories of cancer, and that would change things a lot.
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The second is that idiots like Alex and Tucker who are promoting the study don't take into
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account the phenomenon of surveillance bias.
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If you're somebody who's getting COVID vaccines and boosters, then it stands to reason that
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you're somebody who's making contact with medical professionals.
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The more interaction you have with doctors, the more likely it is that they'll diagnose
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something that might've been missed otherwise, so people who got more medical care often
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see increased diagnoses for things that other people would have but not notice until the
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problems get severe.
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Experts who have analyzed this study say that this dynamic explains the increase in cancer
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diagnoses that the paper shows.
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There's no evidence presented that there's a causal connection between vaccination and
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cancer and Alex is just making up that the vaccine shuts off your immune system.
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If that were the case, we would've seen an almost unimaginable level of death all around
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the world, which Alex has been promising is just around the corner for like the last four
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years.
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I don't know if Alex is a true believer in this shit, but Tucker absolutely got the COVID
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vaccine and it's a pretty damning look for Trump to get his shots at this point.
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He made RFK the head of Health and Human Services and his entire fanbase wants him to hang Dr.
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Fauci.
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The anti-vaccine hysteria is such a huge part of Trump's appeal, so it should send a pretty
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clear message to his fans that he thinks they're stupid when he gets a COVID and flu shot in
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October 2025.
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Stoking the flames of anti-science shit helps Trump because it invalidates and weakens authority
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figures who aren't him.
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He's happy to do it, even if that means advising people to do things that are detrimental to
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their own health.
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When it comes to his health, he's going to listen to the experts, not the dipshits that
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he's elevating and subjecting the public to.
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Come on.
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Come on, guys.
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You get it.
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Listen, hey, you become king to get the good shit, right?
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If I'm king, I'm not going to wallow the same with you.
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Yeah, you fucking idiots made me king, but that's because you're dumb.
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Yeah, rich people are still going to have access to safe abortions regardless of what
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laws they pass that other people are going to be subjected to.
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Rich people and powerful people are going to have vaccines no matter what.
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It's the fun thing about being rich and powerful.
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Right.
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They want to hurt others.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We're great.
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So maybe Trump, fucking bragging about getting a shot.
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Of course he is.
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The bragger.
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Maybe it was a fake shot.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Maybe it's fake.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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If you say that for serious in real life, you have to then consider all the possible
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ways that it could be fake and the reasons for it being fake and none of those make any
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sense whatsoever.
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Well, the one big distinction I would see is whether Trump knows that it's fake or not.
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Sure.
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Like if he knows it's fake, then he's trying to get people to take a dangerous thing.
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By pretending to get it himself, which is murder.
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That's real bad.
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Yeah.
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If he doesn't know that somebody is trying to murder him.
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Right.
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Anyway, it could be fake.
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Yeah.
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I don't understand that.
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Do you think it was real?
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If I had to speculate on a conspiracy theory of pure speculation, Borla was there a few
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weeks ago.
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He did that $75 million deal to lower drug costs, which is a good thing Trump got.
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And they said, hey, we got some bad PR.
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Why don't you say you took the shot?
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But I'd have to purely speculate.
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You talk to Trump a lot more than anybody else, pretty much.
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So maybe you can ask him why the hell he did that.
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Do you know anyone who has taken that?
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I mean, who would take that?
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I mean, it's poison, obviously poison.
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I think there's 2% uptake on the boosters now.
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And it's no longer recommended by HHS, which means it has no longer has liability protection.
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So again, that is Trump who would say at the rallies, oh, take your shot.
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They would boo him.
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So he quit doing it.
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And so it's things he does like that.
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And then some Trump supporters think we're in a cult.
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They go, you don't criticize anything Trump does.
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No, all the time we do.
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Like when Bondi said, let's pass hate speech laws.
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That's what the ADL wants.
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Southern private law center people got pissed.
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She reversed herself that day.
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So no, it's good for the constituents.
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When we see something wrong, we put Trump in there to carry out our operations to restore
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the public, not to take experimental gene therapies.
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Well, it's not an attack.
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I mean, I'm sure you've had times in your life where you've been off on some lunatic
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tangent and people you love, members of your family are like, hey, we love you.
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And it certainly happened to me a million times.
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People I love are like, I don't think it's a good idea, whatever you're doing.
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And you're grateful for that, right?
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Well, that's absolutely so.
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But if I smoke a cigar, a few here and there is a bad for you.
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You smoke a lot of them.
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You'll you might get lip cancer or something.
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I'm not up here.
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I don't believe that.
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I'm not here saying kids, you should smoke cigars.
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The difference is Trump is up there doing it.
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So it's just another one of those things he does like I think I'll give cruise missiles
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to Ukraine.
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Makes you wonder what's going on sometimes.
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I'm glad we don't have Kamala Harris.
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Let's get that straight.
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But I am a little concerned.
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Lesser of two evils stuff.
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But hey, I'm the guy who's all about principles.
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These guys are so desperate for any way to pretend Trump didn't get the vaccine because
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what it implies, it implies that he knows that the anti-vex people are stupid and he's
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exploiting them for their support and power that they provide.
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This point Alex makes about Pam Bondi is interesting, though, because he says that she came out
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in favor of hate speech laws, but then got severe pushback from the base.
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So she stopped the stuff that same day.
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He's talking about her interview after the Charlie Kirk murder where she talked about
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Josh Shapiro's house being firebombed and how her Department of Justice was going to
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go after hate speech, which was not protected speech.
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Sure.
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That was on September 15th.
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And she did get a lot of heat for that, which led to a tweet that she posted the next day
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where she tried to do damage control.
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In the tweet, she says, quote, hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence
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is not protected by the First Amendment.
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It's a crime.
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For far too long, we've watched the radical left normalize threats, call for assassinations,
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and cheer on political violence.
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That era is over.
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She's entirely incorrect about the First Amendment.
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And actually it reflects her doubling down on the call to punish speech as opposed to
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what Alex is pretending she did.
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On October 8th, she was sitting right next to Trump at the Antifa propaganda event where
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she said that he said that he took away the freedom of speech involved in flag burning.
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She's illustrated a consistent ignorance and hostility towards free speech.
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And Alex would have that position if he was anything other than a spineless hack who's
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in the pocket of power.
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Right.
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Well, there is a slight difference, right?
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When she said it originally, she didn't make it clear that some hate speech is totally
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okay.
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Right?
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Second time around, she did make it pretty clear, like, we're only going after hate speech
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that's like, hey, these Nazis are bad, right?
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Yeah.
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When you make sure that you include a little thing about the radical left in there, you're
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fine.
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Everybody's fine.
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When you talk about like, hey, we're going to go after hate speech, Josh Shapiro, a Democrat's
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house was firebombed.
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It makes the Nazis worried that you're going to-
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're going to hold us accountable for this shit?
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Right.
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So I guess it is kind of her going back on-
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In a way.
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I think it's more like clarifying a point, like just to be clear, all bets are off, but
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ah, those imaginary left people.
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That clarification doesn't help if you have a problem with her position on speech.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It really does clear things up and address your concerns if it's really just like, hey,
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our side should just be able to do everything.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, I mean, I imagine that it could go south if somebody in the Nazis was like, hey, everybody,
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we're going to really clamp down on violence.
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I bet they would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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So Alex says like, you know, Trump, he does this weird stuff, like give missiles to Ukraine
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and get vaccines and-
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Seems high stakes for them to just be quote, weird stuff.
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He says he doesn't like free speech, all this strange stuff.
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Sure.
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So what's up with that?
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What is up with that?
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What is up with that?
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What is going on?
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Well, everybody knows Trump's really weird in a good way, in a lovable way.
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But he does so much good.
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And then he does so many just really bizarre zigs and zags that sometimes you just have
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to ask what's happening.
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But you know, that video over a year ago of him and Kennedy, right before Kennedy endorsed
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him a year and a half ago, that somebody shot of him on speakerphone, Kennedy with Trump.
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And Trump's like, well, maybe it is too big a shot and maybe the kids shouldn't take it.
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Maybe you're right, Bobby.
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That's the Trump we need, not the Trump.
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Oh, look, I took my shot.
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It's so great.
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Plus the flu shot, they admit, looked us up.
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They've never in 50 years, the flu shot predicted the right mutation for that year's flu.
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And it lowers your immune system to the next year's flu.
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The flu shot paralyzed a relative of mine, a close relative of mine briefly.
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Briefly.
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Paralyzed, waist down, paralyzed.
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Briefly.
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Period.
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That a flu shot did that fact.
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That's Kennedy's lyrics.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know.
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Is there any evidence the flu shot reduces overall mortality?
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You can look this up.
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It has never worked.
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It is an absolute total fraud.
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They've never picked the right mutation for it.
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And so if it's not the exact mutation, it doesn't work.
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So over, but over the population, there's no evidence that the flu shot, which you could
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get at your grocery store, the nurse's office or wherever at work, that it has reduced the
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number overall of dead people in the United States in a given year.
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So Alex, in that clip, he characterized Trump as a liar who changes his positions based
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on who he's talking to and what he wants to get out of them.
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He's happy to be really worried about the vaccines when he needs RFK to drop out of
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the race and endorse him.
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But now not so much.
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He's an asshole who exploits people, even by the description.
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Alex wants to make it sound better than it is, but it's just pretty obvious.
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I don't know how language can alter the reality in the way that he wants it to.
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Like, oh, hey, listen, I know sometimes he does this weird stuff like cut off my feet.
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And I like feet.
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You like feet.
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I'm pro feet.
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Not too much.
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He likes feet too much because he stole mine with a knife.
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But he's not that bad.
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It's just a weird thing.
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It's just a weird quirk.
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He steals people's feets.
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What are you going to do?
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He needed them at the time.
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So Alex has this talking point that they've never correctly predicted the correct mutation
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for the strain of the flu, and that's just a bullshit anti-vax talking point that reveals
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a fundamental misunderstanding of how annual flu shots are designed.
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He's acting like it's an all or nothing thing, where if they guess the right strain, then
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the vaccines work, but if they don't, then they do nothing.
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Ah, it sucks.
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Flu vaccines in the United States are trivalent, which means that it includes protection from
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the expected predominant strain of two types of influenza A, which is H1N1 and H3N2, and
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influenza B. But no vaccine is 100% effective.
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Given the variety of influenza viruses that are out there in the world and how they mutate,
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the vaccines are usually about 40-60% effective at stopping transmission, and studies have
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shown a decrease in mortality from the flu of between one third and one half in the time
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since their introduction widespread in 1945.
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One of the reasons that Alex can get away with this sort of lazy propaganda that he
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puts out is that he can point to the 2014-2015 flu season, where the vaccine was only about
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19% effective.
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It's believed there should be a situation where the vaccine was poorly matched to the
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circulating strains, but it's important to understand the context behind that.
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Our flu vaccines don't provide as good of protection against H3N2, because that strain
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has a higher likelihood of undergoing rapid antigenic changes.
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The versions of H1N1 and influenza B that researchers are using to plan the vaccine
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in advance, they're likely to be structurally similar to what they'll look like when the
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actual flu season arrives, but H3N2 mutates in more ways that interfere with vaccine effectiveness.
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So when an H3N2 strain of the flu is the most prominent strain in a particular flu season,
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doctors are already playing at a disadvantage.
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And it happened that in the 2014-2015 season, H3N2 was the largest flu strain, and it mutated
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in the time between the vaccine's creation and the flu season.
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It was the worst combination of possible circumstances, so it becomes the archetype that Alex pretends
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reflects every flu season, and it's total bullshit.
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It's just nonsense, and him talking like this to somebody who knew what he was talking about,
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they would be like, you're an idiot.
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But he's talking to Tucker, so he's like, oh my god, no shot ever worked!
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I don't know what he's talking about, and I still think he's an idiot.
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I think you could get some context clues.
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A thousand episodes from our show.
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But second, I understand why it's so hard to communicate to a big structure of the population
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what they do, because what that is sounds so much like magic.
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It is very much like, how can I trust you to know so many fucking things?
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That sounds fake as shit!
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That sounds fake as shit!
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It sounds like you made it up!
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Oh, there's a dominant strain.
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Of what?
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I can't see shit, man!
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I don't even know if germs are real.
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That's where we're at in some places.
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We're at germ theory might not be real, and you're telling me about antigenic mutations?
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Of course we're not able to communicate.
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Yeah, I think that Alex and Tucker might as well believe that witches work at BSL-4 level labs.
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Absolutely.
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It's not science, it's people with cauldrons.
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Yes, yes!
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I genuinely think that for a lot of those people, what we just need to do is have two
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wings of the CDC, one of which wears witch outfits.
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And then everybody will be like, oh well that's the good one for me.
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I don't think so because I think that that, you know, you don't want to, I think in healthcare
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generally you don't want to validate people's delusions.
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Because generally that ends up spiraling into further trouble.
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Sure.
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I agree in a way, and here's how I'm going to put your point.
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They need better messaging.
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They need better messaging.
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CDC needs better messaging.
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Well to imagine that people will just get on board is delusional in and of itself.
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That's kind of the situation there.
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People aren't just going to like, oh, oh shit, well I didn't know H3N2 was the dominant strain.
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And there's a lot of people who have strong motivations not to understand those things
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and not to get the messaging.
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Yeah, motivated unlearning.
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People who have supplement companies for instance.
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So anyway, science has been discredited.
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So given how obviously discredited science has been in the last five years, where normal
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people are like, I don't know what this is, but I'm against it.
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Wouldn't now be the time to mandate a total halt to any frankenscience underway where
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we're trying to create life or clone people or change the human genome?
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Gain of function.
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Gain of function, which is now like universal.
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Gain of function didn't go away.
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Gain of function became much more popular.
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Science hasn't been discredited.
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It just looks that way when you listen to lying idiots like Alex who don't know or care
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about science at all.
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These dipshits think they see demons.
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So just on a real ground level, it seems unwise to rely on them for critiques of any scientific
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thing.
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They want to create a world where it's not seen as insane to rant about demons.
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So they engage in fraudulent attacks on the foundations of science, which would tell them
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there aren't demons there.
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Gain of function research is less common than these guys want to make it seem, and I would
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guess that neither of them could give a coherent or consistent definition of what it actually
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is.
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That being said, having some skepticism about the risk-benefit calculation with gain of
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function research isn't the most unreasonable position for someone to have.
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The way these guys express that skepticism and all their beliefs around the issue are
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deeply insane, but a rational person could reasonably have some doubts about whether
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it was worth it to do this stuff.
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Just to be clear.
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I mean, yeah.
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Here's what I say.
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Go crazy with gain of function.
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And I don't mean to have a ton of people doing it.
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I'm meaning what kind of functions can we gain?
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What else can we do anything with these things?
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What can't they do?
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Right.
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I'm worried because of the way you're saying this and the way that I think Alex and Tucker
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talk about it.
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They look at it like you're giving a virus a knife.
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Right.
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Yes.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I want to see if a virus can just take out a foot.
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What can we do here with viruses?
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You're real foot heavy today.
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Well, you know, the previous one just kind of rolls over.
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I, um, yeah.
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Look, I don't...
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Here's my line.
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Here's your line.
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Okay.
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Lightning and dead people.
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Sure.
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If you're doing franken-science and it's like that.
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Yeah.
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No, you're against it.
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I'm against it.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Cause I thought we were going the very opposite direction.
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Well, I have a nuanced take.
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Okay.
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Fair enough.
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No government funding.
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No government funding for bring people back to life sewn together.
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With lightning.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I think that's fair.
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I think that's fair.
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If the private market wants to...
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I don't want my tax dollars going to bring in a monster to life.
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Yeah.
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Too dangerous.
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Fair enough.
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So, uh, the US has turned on big pharma.
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Okay.
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Uh, and that's whatever.
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Trump needs to know, uh, that the American people have rejected big pharma and they're
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tired of it and they hate Albert Borla.
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They hate Anthony Fauci.
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We don't need to be seeing, uh, Albert Borla, who's just as hated as Fauci at the White
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House.
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We need to see Fauci and Albert Borla indicted for the things they've done.
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Why not just strip immunity from the vaccine makers?
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Wouldn't that...
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We have a system in place that's been in place for my whole life where if you're making a
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consumer product that hurts people, you can be sued.
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And so people who make consumer products try to make them safe because there are consequences
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to selling poison.
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That's exactly what should be done.
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That's the 86.
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But that's like simple.
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That's super simple.
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Like why not?
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It's only been 19...
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I mean, I remember 1986.
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It was 39 years ago.
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It's not that hard.
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It's not that hard.
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Technically.
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Vaccines aren't the only pharmaceutical products that have liability protection.
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In fact, most medications that are available on the market have some form of it.
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You know how commercials for drugs have those long sections where they list off possible
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negative side effects?
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That's part of their liability protection.
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All drugs have potential side effects, and you can't sue the drug manufacturer for experiencing
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one of these side effects if they were properly disclosed and you were aware of them when
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you agreed to take the medication.
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If the drug company is lying about possible side effects and hiding the real safety issues
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with their product, then you can sue them.
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It's just kind of difficult because of the burden of proof that comes along with showing
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that this caused the harm.
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It's a hard lawsuit to make, but you can still sue people.
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Prove I lied and then prove I did it to hurt you.
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Yeah.
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Big pharma totally sucks and needs to be regulated much more heavily, but removing liability
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protections isn't the way to go about that.
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If we want a medical research industry that can attract the kind of investment it requires
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to make new, innovative medicines, then they can't be in a position where they can be sued
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by anyone at any time about anything.
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If you don't want that, though, like you don't want medical breakthroughs, then you really
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would want these companies to be bogged down in a ton of legal bullshit.
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And that's a position you would expect to hear from people who make millions from supplement
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sales pushing fake pills on their audience, insisting these are the real cures that the
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man doesn't want you to know about.
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Medical innovation is a direct threat to their business model, and forcing these pharmaceutical
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companies to address mountains of frivolous lawsuits is one of the best ways to remove
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their competition, selling colloidal silver and the milk, the colostrum and shillageat.
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Yeah, I mean, it's so weird because it's like, ah, people are fed up with big pharma for
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doing all of the things that our companies do.
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But because we're unregulated, we can just lie about it.
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They're regulated to the point where they have to tell you when they're screwing you
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over.
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Yeah.
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There's a liability protection on Alex's part for the supplements that he sells because
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there's no rules.
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Right.
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It is interesting that there is a competing set of industries in the healthcare industry,
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one of which is interested in healing people, but maybe not necessarily curing people.
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And another which is like, people better stay sick forever because then they will keep buying
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my shit.
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We have one, well, and honestly, they might not be sick to begin with, but I need to convince
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them they need my shit.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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You have one system that does not work and is wholly corrupt and you have another system
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that does work and is mostly corrupt.
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So what you need to do is not favor the...
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The corruption part needs to be ripped out of there.
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Right.
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And that's never going to happen with a side that doesn't work because without corruption,
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supplement industries collapse.
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But yeah, you need to work on making the system that does work better.
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Getting rid of liability protection around vaccines is counterproductive move.
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It's what they...
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It's what...
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I don't want to say they, I want to say in specific people who are trying to dismantle
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the public education system do is they put poor administrators into the public schools.
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So people are like, well, public schools suck.
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And it's like, no, that guy sucks on purpose.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The system that is good and robust were run right.
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It could work if people did it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So more people these days are talking about God.
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More?
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Yeah.
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So many.
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Okay.
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Do you feel a rise in...
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Do you feel like people are talking about God and spiritual matters more than they did
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10 years ago?
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I mean, clearly they are.
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Where's that going?
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I saw you with a guest a few weeks ago talk about it.
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This is well known.
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I talked to everybody that's done it.
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I haven't done it.
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Just everyone that takes DMT, either from the toad or the ayahuasca plant.
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These creatures show up that look like court gestures or space aliens, different things
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and say, sure, there are too many humans.
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You need to wipe out the population.
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Then you'll become gods.
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It's the same message.
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And they've had groups of people that did studies.
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You need to wipe out.
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You need to kill people so you can become a god.
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Yes.
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You need to depopulate.
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Shut the fuck up.
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You fucking piece of shit.
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Do you know people who've heard that message?
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They've had whole groups of studies that have had group hallucinations of this.
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Can I, I mean, I don't know.
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I'm not the most spiritually sensitive person.
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I'm hardly a theologian.
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But if some demon is telling you to kill people so you can become god, like we can say that's
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bad, right?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, man.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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So there's a rise in talking about God in these people because the right wing political
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movement in this country has decided to become theocratic.
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There's no sincere interest in God or Jesus or engaging in a real spiritual practice.
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Media figures who are promoting right wing politics have just realized that attaching
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their connection to power, to divine right, is an effective marketing tool.
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It's worked for a long time.
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Yeah.
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When Tucker says that more people are talking about God, what he means is that he recognizes
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that God is a brand.
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And that brand is pretty hot right now.
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There's a God trend among far right idiots and they've found that it's easy to sell the
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idea of religion without having to be constrained by the morality or the teachings of said religion.
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That's where we are.
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That said, I will say, and I'll make this statement publicly, DMT demons who tell you
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to kill everyone are probably bad influences.
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I will side with, I will give Tucker his props there.
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I mean, listen, if you are taking advice from anyone who appears to you in a drug induced
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dreeb, you're in the wrong.
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You're in the wrong.
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Even if Gene Hackman dies.
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Those are the sacrifices we make.
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I think when you take drugs, you're capable of having insights.
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I think that's possible.
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I don't think that listening to entities that you imagine is a great call.
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Maybe taking on what they say and thinking about it.
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Maybe people just need to really change the music they listen to while they're doing all
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these drug trips.
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That's why we have prog rock is so you can see weird shit and not be freaked out by it.
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That's the whole reason yes exists.
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And bread.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Drop some acid and turn on bread.
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Just fucking listen to those things go, and then you'll move on with your life.
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Jesus.
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So this next clip is for your consideration.
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This is a clip that I would send to the webbies.
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I don't know who Tucker would qualify for an award.
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I don't know.
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Like kick in an Oscar.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Daytime talk show Emmy.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Let's do that.
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Some sort of an acting award.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Because this is amazing.
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They say the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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I think that's the second biggest trick.
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I think convincing the world that good doesn't exist is the devil's biggest trick.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I can you can you find I think that I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but I know
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that you're telling the truth right now.
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Can you can you can you can you Oh my God.
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I think that it was amazing the way that Tucker perfectly captured an awareness that Alex
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just said a catchphrase.
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And he wanted to double down on it, but immediately realized there's no depth here.
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Nope.
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Oh no.
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Can you just talk more about that?
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Keep going.
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Keep going.
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I jumped in too soon.
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I jumped in too soon.
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Yeah.
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He is nominated for quickest loss of steam in a podcast host.
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Man, and that was such a good revivalist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, too.
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That had that that was religious.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what you said, but I know it's true.
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I don't know what you said, but I know it's true is a great thing to say out loud.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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Yep.
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So they talk a bit about how abortions bad.
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Sure.
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How everyone's evil.
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So the gift is to see good.
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I do think that's the trick because I mean, no one needs a tutorial on evil.
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It's all around us.
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It's super obvious.
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It no longer disguises itself abortion for the sake of abortion.
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Like, what is that?
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It's human sacrifice.
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Just Canaanite and the DNC doing abortions completely for the sake of abortion, not to
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improve the life of the girl or she's a 14 year old rape victim.
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It's just like, no, abortion is inherently good because it's killing a person.
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That is all out in the open now.
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Nobody is confused about its existence.
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What you don't get a lot of is the recognition that good is a more than equal.
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It's a larger and opposing force.
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God is bigger than Satan.
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And you don't get that sense.
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Like, nobody talks about that.
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You don't see it.
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How do you find that?
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So many people purposely get turned off of the system by going to a church, whether it's
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Catholic Protestant, any of it.
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And I'm a very empathic person.
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Growing up, I would feel at churches and you get invited here or there really creeped out,
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not by the parishioners, but by the people in the system that are trained, because if
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that is for sure, where I feel the strongest demonic energy is, is, is in a lot of these
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big churches and all of these big things, because that's where the devil's sitting,
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his forces and it's energetic.
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And so the Christ criticized the Pharisees, Sadducees constantly said, you go pray up on
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the hill and for everybody, you talk about how perfect you are all day, but really you're
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of your father, the devil and the synagogue of Satan.
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So Alex isn't creeped out by big churches.
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He's just creeped out by big churches that wouldn't like him.
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He's good friends with Tex Mars who ran a big white identity church for decades.
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Alex was a huge promoter of Tim Ballard and the sound of freedom shit, even past the point
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where it was clear that Ballard was a fucking monster.
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For most of his career, he was broadcast on Christian shortwave frequency WWCR.
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And if Alex's imaginary numbers about his audience are correct, he would be the pastor
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of the world's largest evangelical program.
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Alex doesn't get creeped out by demonic energy at churches.
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He just doesn't like it when other people are using religion in ways he can't profit
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from.
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That's it.
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Religion's about the money.
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What are you guys doing?
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It's a brand.
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What are you guys doing?
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Yeah, you're using this brand that I feel ownership of in order to do other things and
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I don't get a piece.
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So here's my question.
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All right.
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We're dealing with very serious men who know about the hidden secrets of the universe.
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So when you get an abortion and the dead baby goes to heaven, what does it look like a zygote
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still?
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Does it remain in the stage of gestation?
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Does it bring an amniotic sac with it?
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Is it stuck there or do you see a different aged version of what that zygote could have
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become?
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Well, I don't want to tip my hand about another subject that comes up later, but the subject
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of Peter Thiel's Antichrist Lectures comes up.
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And I did read a bit of it.
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A bit of The Guardian published a bunch of the...
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A bunch of his lectures?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So he's the Antichrist?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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No, but he has some thoughts.
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Okay.
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Good.
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Great.
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I'm sure that they're good and should absolutely be in the witch's man's mind.
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Well, the reason that I bring this up is because one of the things he speculates is that when
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you die, you show up in heaven at age 33.
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At age 33?
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What a great age to show up in heaven.
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So maybe the aborted fetuses show up at 33.
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I'm going to be real.
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I'm going to be honest with you.
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I've been kind of on a fitness kick for the past eight months or so.
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I look a lot better than I did at 33.
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Can I stick with 38?
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Nope.
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33 is the ideal age.
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Fuck!
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I should have fucking done it.
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How was I supposed to know?
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Right.
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Was it an ideal version of you at 33 or was it the real where you were?
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Because I'm going to, if that's the case, I'm going to be back into booze in heaven.
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At what point do you just allow me to pick a skin of the year?
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You know, like we're in the closet.
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I'm just going through like, ooh, 22 looks nice and I put it on, you know?
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But what are we talking about?
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Right.
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What are we talking about with the zycho?
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I don't know.
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I think quite frankly, Peter Thiel is unfortunately the only person who has given me a direct
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answer on this.
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That's fair.
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So that's all I have to offer you.
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That's fair.
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So you were saying that these are serious men who know about the hidden secrets of the
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universe.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And so when Alex is talking about God, Tucker, like he should recognize he's talking to a
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baby.
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That's really where it all is.
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And it comes down to your spiritual inclination.
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But I just recommend with people, personal relationship with God, praying to God, saying,
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I want to be good.
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I want to recognize truth.
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I want to know what truth is.
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I want to open myself up to you.
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I'm an imperfect.
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I repent for what I've done.
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And I want you to cleanse me and then show me the truth and then show me how to be a
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better person and then show me after that what the mission is you have for me.
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And literally, if you do that through a process, it may take days, may take months, may take
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years.
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Wait, what?
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And then all of a sudden you're being given like Intel and stuff like and like literally
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just you have to learn to go with it.
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It's never wrong.
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And it's God and it's there.
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And it's your personal relationship.
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And then obviously people get this relationship.
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They all want to teach other people.
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And God says, get together in groups.
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That's great.
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But Christ didn't try to go get the Sadducees, the Pharisees, the priest class to join him.
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He said their minds were closed.
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He went to the prostitutes and the tax collectors and the robbers, the thieves, because they
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were already outcast.
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But that's where he found people that were already under evil's control, but weren't
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arrogant about it, who were looking for a layout.
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And so I mean, I think that's really what it comes down to is a spiritual relationship
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with God.
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Tucker has to be so embarrassed to just have to nod along with this.
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Alex is sitting there explaining that there's a recruitment process into God's special forces
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and there might be a waiting period where you aren't getting the secret Intel and missions
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from God.
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But if you do it right, that will come.
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Could take a few years.
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Don't worry.
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All of the kind of stuff that you should understand is only said by children and scammers.
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Alex also seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding about Jesus reaching out to the outcasts of
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society.
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It seems like today, what Alex's entire political ideology revolves around is punishing the
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types of people Jesus would have hung out with, while reaching out to and trying to
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win over the sanctimonious elites.
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Alex spends so much time covering for people like Tucker or Elon who are insanely rich,
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stuck in their ways and beyond reach.
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At the same time, he advocates for using the power of the state against the most vulnerable
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groups of people who are the most in need of grace and generosity.
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So I think he just doesn't get it.
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Or he gets it and he's evil.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think it's really, really hard.
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That's one of the hardest things for a lot of religious people with the whole Jesus.
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Because if you take it as a whole, then kind of what he's saying is if everybody is equal,
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sinners in the eyes of the Lord, we are all the same.
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Those guys are more fun than you.
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So I'm going to hang out with them.
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I don't know if that was it.
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It's a strange lesson to learn, but it's there.
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I don't know if that's fully what Jesus was all about.
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He just liked a good party.
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They were so much more fun.
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I don't disagree with that.
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Did you see the painting of the Last Supper?
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They're all on the same side.
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You can't even have a good time.
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Well, I mean, that's just staging.
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That's like a TV thing.
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It makes sense.
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I think, look, obviously part of it.
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People are more fun.
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They're more fun.
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Yeah.
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But another part of it is I didn't come to convert the pious or whatever.
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Come on, man.
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There's a piece of it there.
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Yeah, that's there.
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So religion, inside job.
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I think that Alex means to say that religion is a process that happens within you.
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Sure.
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But he accidentally says that it's an inside job.
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Oh, really?
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It's an inside job.
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They've got to somehow open up the channel to God and then they'll see everything that's
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happening and then God will give them a message and a mission of what they should do.
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And I don't want to say all churches are bad because a lot of good people in the churches
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regardless.
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It's just that the last 120 years, the Rockefeller Foundation, the ecumenical movement and all
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of that has really moved into the churches.
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We see that with all the rainbow flags and all the famous cathedrals in England now festooned
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with all the leftist graffiti and garbage.
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I mean, it's been captured is my point.
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But people can't get turned off by that and say, well, God's dead.
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No.
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No.
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God has occupied the so-called temples.
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But God isn't in the temple.
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God is inside us.
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Do the temples get torn down?
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Like do the last vestiges of the old civilization get erased and Christians start anew?
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Like what is this?
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How does this unfold?
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With iPhones?
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I think, I mean, I think that's up to how God influences everybody.
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I think we could over time retake those things.
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But the Satanists and the leftists, the power hungry, they think if they can take over the
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skin of something and occupy it, that they can fool people that are looking for God.
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But that's actually triggering the Great Awakening.
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So I think some of the buildings get torn down, some of the buildings get retaken.
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But at the end of the day, God's temple is with us.
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It doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
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Right.
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So Westminster Abbey is not where God lives.
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No.
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No, that's so important to remember.
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That we don't need to tear down churches.
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Yes, that is good to remember.
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I suppose.
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You know, here's the thing about, here's the thing about prophets and psychics and all
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that stuff.
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We all know this.
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They're no good when you need them.
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No.
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You know, like I'm asking you a direct question.
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What's going on?
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What are we doing?
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Do we tear it down?
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What's going on?
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And he's like, it depends.
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No, that's not what you're for.
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God talks to you.
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Yeah.
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All Alex can credibly say in this position is that's not my mission.
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Right?
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God has not enlisted me on the secret intel.
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Maybe it's on a need-to-know basis.
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Maybe someone else has gotten that mission, but I have not.
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I guess that's the only answer that makes sense.
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Really all that they're talking about here is Alex wants, and Tucker, they want a more
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fundamentalist version of Christianity to be more prominent.
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They do not like the idea that a more tolerant and accepting version of Christianity has
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become more mainstream over the last decades, and they want to revert back to conquest.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you know, a lot of people thought that the Ayatollah Khomeini taking over in
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the Iranian revolution was good for women.
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So I think that they could probably be good.
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They could pull it off.
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Yeah, I think so.
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So Alex has some spirits in him.
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And not booze, although at times, sometimes the devil comes into him.
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And I get tempted by Abel.
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Sometimes like a devil jumps into me.
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By that, I'm just busy.
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I'm tired.
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I'm whatever.
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And I catch myself.
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And I'm like, whoa, whoa.
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For a minute, I was like, you know, turning into everything I'm trying to fight.
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So I'm not up here on some high horse like, you know, like I've got all the answers and
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I'm perfect because anybody empathic can, you know, tune into different frequencies
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and things that are happening.
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But the other day, your heart's what matters.
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You know, King David did a lot of bad things and sent his best buddy off to get killed.
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He's lusting after his wife, but he really repentant.
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And God figured back from the heart.
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It's where you point your soul.
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Alex can't handle the idea that he might be wrong sometimes and that he may do things
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that hurt other people.
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That reality is so painful to him that he has to give up his own ability to control
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his actions.
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Everything good he does is because of himself and he deserves credit for doing those things.
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But when he does something bad, it's because a devil jumped into him.
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He's very able to say, I'm not a perfect person, but the imperfection that he has is the result
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of the demon swaying him, not because he's a bad person who's motivated by greed and
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functions by lying.
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He's willing and excited to confess to abstract, meaningless sins because they allow him to
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look contrite and like a pious person.
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But in reality, those confessions are just meant to mask the real ways that he's imperfect.
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And that is that he's a bad person, doesn't care and operates in an intentionally harmful
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way.
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Yep.
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Also, Tucker just did that interview with Lee Strobel where he was pretty clear that
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demons can't enter people who are sincerely Christian because the Holy Spirit is taking
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up the space where they would go.
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Right.
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I guess we have to conclude that either Lee was making that up or Alex isn't really a
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Christian.
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He's who we need to ask about the size of aborted fetuses in heaven.
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Lee Strobel?
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Yeah, he clearly has some idea of where souls fit.
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Or we could ask that kid who pretended to go to heaven.
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I'd probably, equally good answers.
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Yeah, he's been there.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So I told you that Peter Thiel and his lecture would come up.
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Yes.
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And here is where that is brought up.
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And Tucker's response about this is so funny.
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While we're on theology, exactly, while we're on theology, what do you think of Peter Thiel's
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whole Antichrist lecture?
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You know, I haven't seen it.
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I have talked to him about it at great length.
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I think it's really interesting.
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I didn't really get to the punchline on that.
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So the question everyone has is, okay, who's the Antichrist?
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I think maybe there's more than one.
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I don't know.
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It's a system.
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Right.
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So I would just say I'm not taking a pass on the question.
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But I don't.
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This is so far out of my depth.
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I mean, I'm just sort of at the I'm for Jesus stage of things.
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But I'm glad that there's a conversation about it.
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Tucker sure sounds diplomatic about Peter Thiel's lecture on the Antichrist.
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Seems like he kind of recognizes how much of a softball that is for him to scream about.
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But he knows he can't because it's Thiel.
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One wonders how much restraint these guys would have if Yuval Noah Harari did a lecture
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about the Antichrist and how much they would support these kinds of ideas being discussed.
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It's almost like they probably wouldn't even read it or engage with it.
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They would simply see Antichrist and use it for their advantage.
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Right.
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They would see Peter Thiel and they're like, oh my God, rich guy who likes Trump.
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Thiel gave a series of four lectures on the Antichrist last month and he had very strict
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rules that it was all off the record and people couldn't tell anyone what he said.
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Now obviously everybody knows what he said.
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Yeah, because someone recorded the audio and gave it to the Guardian and they published
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large sections of it.
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People can dig into that at their own leisure, but suffice it to say it's stupid and there's
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a good reason he was trying to keep it private.
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And it's very funny for Tucker to have this ambivalent, oh, this is out of my depth, I
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don't know kind of answer.
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He doesn't give those kinds of answers.
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Yeah.
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Fuck you.
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You got attacked by a demon.
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I don't know if I got to the punchline.
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Like I'm glad the Antichrist is up in the air and that we're just talking about it.
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Is in play.
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We're in conversation.
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We shouldn't be ignoring him.
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And so it's good that he's out there, but I just don't think I have any personal opinions
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on it whatsoever.
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But you do.
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I mean, well, I mean, it's the Antichrist, so as a good Christian, obviously I would
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be against not Christ.
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You got attacked by a demon.
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Wow.
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But I mean, it was more scratchy.
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It was more scratchy.
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You're skeptical of tech billionaires.
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Sure.
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But I mean, what is a tech billionaire?
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Right.
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If they like you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a tech bro-ionaire is what he is.
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So I think that the main point is, you know, something you touched on there, and that is
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that like, let's not not talk about it.
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We got to talk about the Antichrist and that's dumb.
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We should be having not just Peter, till everybody, Donald Trump, you and I, we should be discussing
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revelation was describes really happening now.
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So we should be having, Oh God, he's the Peter, Tills, the Antichrist.
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He's talking about the Antichrist.
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What?
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Because some people are like, well, what's he doing?
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How about the Antichrist?
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Well, I think we should all be talking about it.
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Well, because I think I think the temptation is to just ignore the whole topic.
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I mean, that's the world that I grew up in where it was just never discussed.
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That doesn't exist.
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It was just 100 percent.
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People's sex lives were a frequent topic of conversation.
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Everyone was super liberal about that.
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Like no one was embarrassed of anything except any question that transcended the material
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was just considered like death was considered totally off limits because it pointed to these
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obvious questions like what happens then?
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Who the fuck are you?
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So I really welcome that.
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I think all healthy societies face death.
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Exactly.
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People go, oh, you're a Peter Thiel dick writer.
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No, you should be having a discussion about Antichrist.
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Why aren't you?
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And so what I got, I haven't seen the presentation.
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So people, I'm sorry, I miss a lot because I do think the Internet's demonic.
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Sorry, I know I work on the Internet, but the whole thing makes me uncomfortable.
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So I haven't seen any of this, but people are attacking Thiel for this.
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Oh, I mean, it's like, oh, yeah, it's like they haven't even found out what he's saying.
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I've read some of the articles, haven't tried to get tickets, but it's already sold out.
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But I'm going to see his view on it.
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But all I know is, is that we should be having a discussion about the Antichrist.
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We're having one already here.
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And so what is the Antichrist?
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I think you need to know the enemy.
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I think you need to know.
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Well, one obvious hallmark from my frequent but very untutored reading of those books
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in the New Testament is that the Antichrist reserves the powers of God for himself.
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He pretends to be God.
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I'm all powerful.
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I can worship me.
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I reserve the right to be all powerful, just to be clear.
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And by the way, that's most leaders in the world through all time.
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But those are signs of evil.
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You are not God.
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No one can worship you.
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No one can worship you.
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Smash cut to Trump autographing Bibles.
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Right?
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What are we doing?
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This is dumb.
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And if Peter Thiel weren't someone that Alex and Tucker knew they're supposed to support,
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then doing a lecture series on the Antichrist would be evidence of a person working with
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the Antichrist.
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It would be predictive programming, trying to sneakily confess to the public that they're
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the Antichrist so the public could—they agree in advance to worship him.
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Right?
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I think there's nothing that could be more destructive right now to public safety than
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for the president to start speculating about who may or may not be the Antichrist.
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This isn't a productive or safe conversation to be had by politicians, and the idea that
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Alex and Tucker could possibly want that speaks to how far they've gone from the days of pretending
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to live in a shared reality.
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They are just lost.
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Yeah.
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I also wanted to point out how you're not hearing any weird abrupt commercial breaks
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in this episode, and that's because I've noticed that Tucker seriously frontloads his ads.
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Most of them are awkwardly jammed into the beginning of the episode, and there's two
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reasons that podcasts employ this kind of ad strategy.
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The first is that early ads command a higher rate than mid-roll or end-roll ads.
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You can charge more for early ads because you have a higher expectation that more people
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will be seeing them or hearing them.
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The second reason you would do this touches on that fact, and Tucker putting so much ad
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density at the start of the episodes, it makes me think that he has some metrics that suggest
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that most people don't make it very far into the show.
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If you have a good 90% of the audience that makes it 45 minutes into your episodes, you
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can charge advertisers a decent rate for that real estate, but if your numbers show that
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like half or more drops off at the one hour mark, it might not be worth it to run ads
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after that point.
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I suspect something like that is going on and Tucker's aware of it.
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Yeah.
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It makes me grateful for what we do.
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And also reminds me of the thing that is worst about business is that to be a good business,
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you have to know the worst things about you.
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You know, you have to like, well, nobody listens past an hour.
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Nobody's there.
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I don't know why we're talking.
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Maybe I'll just keep talking and nobody will be listening to this.
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It's past an hour.
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Is anybody here?
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We've gotten people in the door successfully with clickbait and like kind of exciting sounding
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interviews, but they lose interest fairly quickly because this shit's fucking dumb and
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they have other things they need to do.
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So I think that probably reflects a lot of his...
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That's dark.
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Yeah.
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So our leaders really are the Antichrist when you think about it.
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All of them.
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Well, because they're anti-Christ.
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Nice!
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They're opposed to Jesus.
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Call it.
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That does happen.
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The one thing I don't like about the Antichrist conversation is it makes it sound like, you
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know, Anton LaVey is going to show up and like start murdering people.
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And I think it's much more present than that.
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I mean, I think literally Antichrist means against Christ.
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Well, who would that include?
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Most leaders in the world, they hate Jesus.
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I hate him!
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They hate...
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You want to make people upset?
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Start talking about Jesus.
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I just did this at the Christ Memorial.
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Did like some six minute talk about Jesus.
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Only Jesus.
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That's it.
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I was like, I said to my wife in the shower that morning, that morning, I was like, I'm
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not getting political at all.
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I'm not going to attack anybody.
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I just want to be as like unifying as I can and consistent with what Charlie really cared
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about as I can.
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And we really care about Jesus.
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They call it anti-Semitic.
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It was insane.
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It was, of course, absurd.
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But leaving aside the absurdity, like the emotion was real.
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It was totally real.
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Like, oh my gosh, that's outrageous.
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You said that.
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It's like...
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Great speech.
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I watched it.
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All I did was recount the gospel.
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But that's that's the most controversial thing you can do.
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And everyone's happy to talk about God all the time.
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God spiritual is Jesus.
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Man, that's a no go zone.
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Why is that?
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Absolutely.
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Because it's real.
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That's why.
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And it just triggers the fuck out of people.
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I shouldn't...
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Well, I mean, I mean, no, no.
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But I agree with you that that that we need to have an open discussion about this because
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it's it's here.
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Because no one cares if you say or talk about Jesus.
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It's a problem for people who don't share your faith when you use Jesus to justify laws
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or social guidelines that restrict the freedoms of other people because you need everyone
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else to adhere to your religious rules.
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It's great for you to love Jesus, but the fact that you've made yourself subject to
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the rules that are laid out in the New Testament, that's your business.
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The feeling that I get from people like Tucker is almost an anger at the idea that they have
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to follow religious rules that they've decided to accept.
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It's almost as if they feel trapped by the religion that they're in.
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And because of that, they have to insist everyone else trapped themselves in the same box.
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It all just feels like a really unhealthy and unhappy connection to the divine.
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And as far as my understanding of God and Jesus goes, I don't think they'd love it.
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When Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors, he wasn't doing it to force them
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to stop doing sex work or collecting taxes.
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Forcing them to do those things would invalidate the critical step where they chose to live
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a different life, which is the key to spirituality.
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It can't be imposed upon you, but by seeing examples of it lived and proximity to spiritual
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people, the hope is that you can show other people a different path and then they'll
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choose to take it because it's better.
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Alex and Tucker want to create a government that caters to their religious rules and outlaws
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things that their book says is immoral, but on some level I'm sure they know that wouldn't
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save a single soul.
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Marketing, it's marketing.
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Religion's their marketing brand.
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And especially for Tucker, I really think you can feel that he hates it.
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But he was trying not to be political when he talked about Jesus.
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Are you saying that he used Jesus as a marketing tool?
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I cannot believe.
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Can you believe our leaders would allow something like this?
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Here's the generalized feeling that I get.
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Tucker has made his brand religion because it's fucking easy and this is a hotbed of
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like, I've got attacked by a demon, look at me!
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It's a great space.
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And the right wing audience that he largely caters to has gone that direction.
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So there's an element of audience capture that is involved here too.
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He can't really go against this and expect to maintain the same grasp on people as he
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does.
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And he hates that.
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He fucking hates that because he's made this step and now he has to be religious.
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And it's incoherent.
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That's why he yells about like, this doesn't match what we believe.
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He can't fit in this space and it makes him angry.
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I mean, you know, one of the problems with this, right, one of the problems with these
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people is that ultimately, if you want to be a dick about it, lying to religious people
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is starting with a little bit of a leg up, you know?
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Like if you're not the best liar, then maybe you equalize by getting a little bit of a
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juice from people who are already predisposed to go along to get along.
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Right.
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Yes.
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So, so like religion, at least in the United States and Christianity is fundamentally based
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on an element of faith.
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And because people who are going to be self described as Christians have a large piece
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of their life that is anti-critical thinking, anti like-
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Deliberately.
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Yeah.
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Purposefully.
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And not that that's a bad thing.
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In service of what they believe.
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But if you are someone who wants to deceive, that's an audience that you, you-
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It is the, the, I mean like it is the crux, you know, you can choose to live a trusting
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life, but don't be surprised when you get fucked.
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And if you choose to live an untrusting life, don't be surprised if you're not following
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along with the book, you know?
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And if you're living an untrusting life, don't be surprised that it's pretty lonely.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yep.
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It's tough.
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Fuck these people.
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It's hard out there.
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Anyway, Tucker's speech at Charlie Kirk's Memorial was called anti-Semitic because he
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made a joke that strongly implied that the Jews conspired to kill Jesus.
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He said, quote, I can sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with a bunch of guys
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sitting around eating hummus thinking about what can we do about this guy telling the
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truth about us?
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We must make him stop talking.
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Tucker can feign ignorance all he wants and pretend to be so surprised by the reactions
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that he keeps getting for the clear references that he makes to classic anti-Semitic tropes.
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But I'm not interested in acting like he doesn't know exactly what he's doing.
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His fucking charade is very weak.
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So this next clip is also for your consideration in a different category in the webbies.
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This one is for best banter.
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Best banter?
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We've just got some good yuck-um-ups just going around.
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Most electric chemistry.
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I know that a lot of the people developing AI are really, really bad.
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Really, really bad.
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Like the worst.
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And what do I mean by bad specifically?
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They think they're God.
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And that's the core lie.
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It's not like how many people have you killed?
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If you think you're God, you will kill people.
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And the more power you have, the more you will kill.
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It's just by its nature bad.
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And there's so it means no restraint, no perspective, no humility, man.
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That's a recipe for genocide always.
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Right?
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I know we want to hit my own personal issues and a few other things.
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And I appreciate the time, Tucker.
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But big picture.
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Let's just be completely honest about Trump.
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It's a blessing to have him in office.
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We're nine months in.
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Uh oh.
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The Democrats are destroying themselves.
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Lowest approval rating ever.
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Lowest fundraising ever.
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It's really up to us to lose this.
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But we are trying to see some indictments of Comey and Lisa James.
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We've got a lot more coming.
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The Democrats are now pledging, you know, resistance and violence.
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And what's the quote?
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Energetic uprisings or forceful uprisings?
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Sorry.
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Forceful uprisings.
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Chuck Schumer, how do you see this unfolding?
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And what can the general public do to try to save the country in a nonviolent way?
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Because I mean, I just think Trump rhetorically needs to be out front explaining to people
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how dangerous things are and the crossroads instead of just saying, oh, liberals are dumb.
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They don't know what they're doing.
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No, the leftist globalists have a plan all over the world.
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They know what they're deliberately doing.
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I think, I mean, a lot of things are important.
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Prayer is the most important.
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Keeping the people you love close, keeping your personal relationships strong, keeping
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your personal life virtuous.
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I do think that's really important.
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So let's diagram this interaction that just happened.
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Tucker says that people that are making AI are bad and think they're gods.
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And he tees Alex up to talk about how if you think you're God, you're going to kill a bunch
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of people.
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Right.
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Instead of responding to that, Alex changes the subject and launches into his own question
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for Tucker about how the Dems are going to start a forceful uprising and what does Trump
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need to do?
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Yeah.
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Then instead of answering that question, Tucker starts talking about how it's important to
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have your heart and soul in order.
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This is an interesting situation because this isn't a conversation or an interview.
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It's just dudes saying things to each other.
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More interestingly, it's clearly supposed to be Tucker interviewing Alex, but Alex wants
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to interview Tucker.
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If Tucker is guiding the conversation, there's way less chance of something newsworthy happening
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on this show.
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He asks Alex questions and Alex says some inflammatory dumb shit, but who cares?
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Maybe someone's going to write an article about that, but Alex can't really sensationalize
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things he said himself on someone else's show.
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Back on Info Wars, there's no headline of, I said dumb shit on Tucker's show.
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If Alex can guide the conversation, there's a chance he can get Tucker to say something
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that then becomes the big story, which is strategically a part of the reason that Alex
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is trying to take control in this conversation.
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That was so awkward.
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It sounded a little bit like two spies exchanging code words.
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The sun is out today.
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Exactly, like, oh, but the sun never shines on a Tuesday.
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The rain falls mainly on the plane.
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Okay, cool.
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We're both in the evil corp or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Here's a bomb.
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That was great.
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That was really great because these two people don't like each other.
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You know, like just on a, just on like.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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In the same way that Tucker very clearly hates his audience, he does not like Alex.
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Alex probably likes him, but that's because he's kind of a dope who wants everyone to
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like him and Tucker performs liking him.
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Yeah, Alex liking you isn't what being liked is like.
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No.
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Don't mistake that.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think that.
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It's like being liked by Gacy.
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That's the kind of, that's the kind of liked you're experiencing.
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Yeah.
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So Tucker, he wants there to be a purge of the military and law enforcement.
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Okay.
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But it's good.
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Okay.
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It's cool.
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It's totally good.
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All right.
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So I think that the people who run the government, the people who are elected to run the government
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need to make sure that the instruments of government are loyal to the constitution and
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under control.
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And that's the concern that I have is that concern, especially older conservatives, whatever
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that is, Republicans, whatever that is, but you know, non-leftists are living without
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dated understandings of like the military and the police.
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And you know, there are a lot of great people in the military.
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I know a lot of them and there are a lot of great cops.
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We were just with one of them a second ago, but there are also a lot of people with guns
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in official capacities who are really, really dangerous.
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And you need to make sure those people are under control.
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And by under control, I don't mean loyal to Donald Trump, the man, I mean loyal to the
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constitution.
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Absolutely.
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Here's where we enter a paradox for Tucker that he can't untangle.
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He desperately wants to pretend that law enforcement and the military need to be loyal to the constitution,
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not just loyal to Trump, the person.
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But what he really means is that they need to be loyal to Trump as an idea.
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They need to be loyal to defending the institutional power of white Christian heterosexual men,
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which the Trump movement is essentially an avatar for.
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But you can't just say that.
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Right.
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Not yet.
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Right.
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It's not quite time to say that.
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Right.
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What happens if supporting Trump and defending the constitution become at odds?
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What does Tucker believe law enforcement have a responsibility to do at that point?
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If what he's saying is true, he should believe that they have a responsibility to arrest
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or kill Trump.
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If he's the president of the country and he's flagrantly ignoring and violating the constitution,
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he represents an existential danger to the constitution far greater than any terrorist
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we've seen in our lifetime.
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There are plenty of instances where you can argue that Trump has violated the constitution
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about things like the emoluments clause and shit like that, which are correct.
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But also they're so disconnected from our day to day lives that people can easily be
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convinced to ignore them or not take them seriously.
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But this month, Trump said directly and confidently that he took the freedom of speech away from
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burning flags, which he understood was something the Supreme Court had held as free speech.
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Free speech issues are central to people like Tucker and Alex's content, and they impact
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everyone in this country in a way that we can all feel.
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The president of the country openly said that he is the arbiter of what is and isn't
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free speech, regardless of what the constitution and the courts say, and Alex and Tucker just
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ignore it.
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Trump and the constitution are directly in opposition in this instance, and Tucker's
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position that law enforcement should be loyal to Trump the person stands, because Trump
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the person is a proxy for the white identity movement that Tucker wants the state and the
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military and law enforcement to uphold.
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Don't think for a second that Tucker wanting a purge of law enforcement because they aren't
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loyal to the constitution is a sincere position.
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This is bullshit.
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It's a mess.
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It's absurd.
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It's absurd.
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We're going to need shock troops to do all the stuff that's illegal, so we better make
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them good now.
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And we don't want them to be loyal to Trump the person, but maybe Stephen Miller or something.
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There's always going to be another.
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It's a miscarriage.
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There'll be another Trump.
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God will have moved the mantle of heaven onto the next chosen one.
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But in that case, what's important is that the military is beholden to whoever-
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The C-log needs to stay in line.
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So the problem is those beards that people have in the military.
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That's true.
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That's always been true.
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It's not really that.
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It's more that Tucker thinks that the military is mostly crypto gays and self-hating whites.
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Wild.
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The enlisted are great people, on average the best, but people really have this vision
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of the military that's delusional.
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A lot of them are sociology professors with nuclear weapons.
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I mean, they're scary.
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And I know that just from living in DC.
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I wouldn't know that if I hadn't spent my life in Washington.
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The Pentagon's right there.
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The neighborhood I grew up in in Georgetown was the chairman of the joint chiefs lived
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like one house over from me.
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They were just always circulating through because they all circulate through DC.
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So I would go to dinners or duck hunts or whatever.
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You're with these people and you're like, wait, you're like stupid, totally incapable
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of creative or independent thought.
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And you're a lefty big time.
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And like self-hating white guys and like crypto gay and like all like they're sociology professors.
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A lot of them.
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I've met a lot of them.
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Wait, is that all of them?
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A lot.
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Why do you think DEI swept through the military?
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Because the flag officers wanted it.
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And why did they want it?
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Because they hate themselves.
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Because they all got, you know, master's degrees at Fletcher or whatever.
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It's some, you know, they all got indoctrinated by her education, as you explained at the
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outset.
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So like, man, you have to make sure those people are loyal to the Constitution.
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And you need to go through systematically.
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By the way, you think Trump finally knows that he thought the brass for these badass
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John Wayne guys are literally the enemy?
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Well, apparently everyone says that the the chairman of the joint chiefs is like a really
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good, a good, solid.
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American.
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That's correct.
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Dan Cain is a he's a great guy.
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So, I mean, I think there are a lot of great people.
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Gaby, still a few left.
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Yeah, there may be many left.
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Look at how many bad himself.
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Many bad, many bad and many left used the vaccine to weed out the men guys with testosterone
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and self-respect who were like, I'm not doing that.
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I'm not going to poison myself.
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And so they left.
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And that was the point of the covid vaccine was to get purge, decent to purge the men
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so it's all like betas and women who can be controlled and are eager to worship false
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gods.
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And you have those people with guns.
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I don't know.
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It's really scary what just happened under Biden.
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Yeah, man, that's what the covid vaccine was all about.
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Getting betas into the military positions because all the testosterone filled, self-respecting
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men would take a shot and they had to go.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's always interesting the way people view military people.
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I'm always fascinated by it because it's like they spend a lot of time just making
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sure that following orders is like the thing.
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It's like the thing.
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It's a big part of it's a huge part of it.
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And yet everybody's outside commentary always comes in on when they can't.
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They should and should not follow their orders like, oh, getting a vaccine, your order to
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get a vaccine.
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How dare you never follow those orders.
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I mean, it's crazy.
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Cut your beard.
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Exactly.
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Follow that order.
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Of course.
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Do not follow that order.
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Arrest this person.
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Go to a place in America and go follow those orders.
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Go to another country and kill someone.
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Yep.
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Follow those orders.
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Don't ever think maybe this is as bad as the covid vaccine.
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I think that there's an interesting thing here to where Tucker is like, he's willing
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to say this shit, but he's like, oh, no, talking about the Antichrist and Peter Thiel is out
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of my depth.
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You know, like it's a little stupid.
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I mean, a little silly.
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Listen, just because I understand global political affairs through a military point of view doesn't
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mean that I'm also prepared to talk about the Antichrist.
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Well these these military people under Biden, they're all self-hating whites.
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What an absurd thing to think about anything.
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Just they're all self-hating whites is a self-evidently crazy thing to say.
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And that's why they brought in the covid vaccine.
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When you say they are self-hating whites, right, you're harkening back to race traitors, essentially.
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No, a million percent.
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Right, that's what you're doing.
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They're people who will talk to the blacks, so we have to destroy them.
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The Klan will not allow you to marry outside of your race.
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But see, it's not really just about that.
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It's also about women and how they shouldn't be in power.
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Of course!
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And it's self-hating men and bloodthirsty women.
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Oh, I love the liberal thing.
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Once women are in charge, there'll be no more wars.
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That's bullshit.
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That's not what the studies show.
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Well, it's not what reality shows us.
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Female leadership leads to violence.
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Why is that?
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It's true.
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I don't know.
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And I, as a great lover of women and the father of women.
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Fuck you!
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Fuck you!
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I'm not anti-women.
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I love women.
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Come on, claws, claws, claws.
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Right?
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Anything!
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I love women, but it's true.
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Invisibility!
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Male leadership leads to violence.
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And you see it.
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And you see who's...
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It was Governor Wallace's wife who opened the windows to...
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Smell the burning tires.
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To drink in.
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The redland odor of riot.
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Yeah, it's Winnie Mandela, man.
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It's really, really...
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The Bolsheviks' wives were more bloodthirsty than they were.
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I don't know exactly what that is.
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I think weak male leadership incites something in women that's really dark.
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That's not their fault.
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That's men's fault.
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Men's job is to lead.
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So Tucker's arguing that having women in positions of power leads to violence, and the first
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example he can come up with is a misrepresented comment from Tim Walz's wife.
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Tim Walz is the governor, not his wife.
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Yeah, but that's...
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She's not in a position of power.
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Her husband is.
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If Tucker wants to keep women out of positions of power, then this isn't an example he should
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be using because it's a man in a position of power.
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And it's, yeah, it's not an example.
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This is stupid, and it's intentionally stupid, because it's cynical content directed at an
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audience that Tucker hates and thinks are stupid.
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If he wants to make an argument that women being in power leads to violence and the only
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thing he can seem to come up with are the wives of male leaders, he understands that
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he's making a dumb point that isn't supported by the premises of his argument.
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I'm not saying that having women in power would end war or anything like that, it's
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just that the construction of the point Tucker is making is motivated by defending his sexist
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conclusion rather than by taking real information and arriving at the conclusion that that information
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would support.
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Some people are better at masking this than others, and I would say that Alex is actually
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better than Tucker because he just rambles and confuses the audience with emotion so
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effectively that it's hard to track what he's saying if you're not paying close attention.
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Tucker doesn't quite have that move yet.
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No.
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So interestingly, there was a study that was published earlier this year that shows that
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English queens between 1480 and 1913 were 27% more likely to go to war than kings.
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One of the reasons that was suggested for why this difference existed was that often
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queens were married to men from other countries as a means of creating alliances.
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These alliances often meant that the queen would wage war along with these countries,
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and this is supported by the data that shows that there's a lower rate of war among unmarried
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queens.
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There's a lot of interesting historical sexist dynamics that this data points to, but none
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of it suggests that women are more likely to go to war than men, but it's interesting.
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To be clear, the study shows that there is a 27% increase in queens going to war compared
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to male kings at the time because their husbands told them to.
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Probably.
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I mean, it's a big part.
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Yes, historically.
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Yes, exactly.
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So, the only married queens have had much more co-sovereigns with their husband that
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they marry.
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At best, yeah.
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And the alternative where a king would marry somebody, that queen isn't co-sovereign, it
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doesn't work the same way in reverse.
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No, strange how that goes.
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Yeah.
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No.
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So, no claws?
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No Wolverine?
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Man, I just love the ... It's not just what you say, because it is that, but there's also
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the additional layer of disdain on top of it that includes a, not only do I not actually
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believe any of this bullshit, but I am showing you a version of what you believe that's even
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more disgusting, and I know you're going to eat it up because you're fucking stupid.
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That's how awful it would be to listen to Tucker is to be beaten.
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It is horrifying.
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It is an attack in some ways.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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It's like, I'm going to go again and again and again, and I have yet to receive claws.
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Well, the claws were added later.
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Wolverine's actual power is a healing factor.
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Oh, that's true.
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And if Tucker is punching you over and over again-
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Wait, no, because the claws used to be ... The claws are skeleton.
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The adamantium claws are later.
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But the skeleton still ... I'm pretty sure that's true, right?
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I now realize I'm out of my depth on even Wolverine-load.
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No, because I remember in Days of Future Past, he doesn't have the adamantium claws yet.
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Right, he has bones.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So look, maybe you have a healing factor.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Moving on.
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I know.
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I don't know why we needed to do that.
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We didn't need to do that.
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So in Tucker's life, he's lost two fistfights.
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And I was listening to this.
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I was thinking, let's make it three, baby.
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I was going-
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Yeah, all of that, it's all true.
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And I also think it's having lost two fistfights in my life badly-
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Not badly enough.
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I would climb a president to get into a fistfight.
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Into a fistfight.
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I mean, there's something about being forced to box as a kid as I was and learning that
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I'm not as tough as I thought I was or whatever.
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But the experience of physical violence is much more a male thing.
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And people who haven't been in a fistfight shouldn't be commanding an army or a country,
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for that matter, or a country.
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They should not-
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Well, the tougher you know, the more you learn, there's always somebody tougher.
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100%.
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And it hurts to get hit in the face.
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It hurts a lot, actually.
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It hurts so much.
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That's why I was never good at boxing.
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My brother was good, but I was not because I hit the face and I'd be like, oh, I think
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we should negotiate this.
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Like, there's got to be a smarter way to do this.
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That was my-
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And then I was like, I'm not suited for that.
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But it was only through that experience that I learned, anyway, you know all this because
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you're a man.
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Yeah, because you're a man.
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Because you're a man.
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Yeah.
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I say no to negotiations.
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Tucker, let's box.
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Yep.
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I don't fight, but I'll-
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I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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We can rent a venue.
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We could do this.
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I think you'd be all right.
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I think you'd have this one.
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I would do it.
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I think I would.
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Because you're a man.
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I have to.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There's only the explanation for that.
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That's just it.
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You just mend no violence, you know?
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You know what I think I would do?
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I think I would agree to a boxing match with Tucker if he would do it.
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Yeah.
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And then I wouldn't hit him.
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That would be fun.
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That would be fun.
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That would be a nice little protest.
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I would just laugh.
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Yeah.
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Try and hit me again.
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Come on, bud.
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Come on, go.
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I don't care.
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Knock me out.
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I don't give a shit.
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Come on, buddy.
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Hit me.
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I think it would be so funny.
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Yeah.
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Did Tucker beat the shit out of you?
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I think it'd be more funny, but I wouldn't do that.
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No.
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That's why we're different.
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So look, female leaders lead to violence.
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Obviously.
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And that's why they shouldn't be in leadership positions.
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Everybody knows that.
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Yes, there's something about female leadership that gets you very quickly to violence.
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And you see it in the support for the Ukraine war, which is like the murder of an entire
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country's male population.
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And now though, a bunch of European countries are doing female conscription.
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I wonder if combat is going to get the women to not be for war.
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I wonder why you would even bother with a civilization if you're sending your women
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to fight wars.
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I don't understand.
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Just give up at that point.
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Well, it's like Ursula Vanderleiden.
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You only have a military to protect your women.
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That's the point.
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There's only one reason, and that's to protect my wife and my daughters.
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And if it weren't for that, why would we need a military?
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So Tucker thinks that female leadership leads to war, but then he brings up Ukraine, where
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a man is president.
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If the ability of women to serve in the military is what he means by female leadership, that
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seems strange, because that's definitely not the point he was making earlier when he was
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complaining about this.
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All of this is just rooted in profound sexism and a belief in the natural hierarchical order
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that puts men over women.
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Tucker doesn't think that women are equal humans, and he believes that he has an ownership
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stake on the women in his life, and that's it.
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Well, let's not forget First Timothy, buddy.
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Timothy's got a lot to go on there.
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It's fascinating how Alex keeps trying to butt in to bring up Ursula Vanderleiden, because
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that's an actual example of a woman in a position of power.
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All of the other examples Tucker has come up with don't apply, and he won't even let
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Alex shift the subject into, let's actually complain about this woman in power.
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Yeah, man.
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What a just ... I mean, that idea, that fucking bullshit concept of chivalry being the reason
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that ... How are you still trying to sell that in 2025?
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The year is 2025.
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Yep, yep.
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People have been saying that shit for a long time, and it's never been true.
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Right.
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It's just an excuse to not see women as equals.
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Yeah.
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Because you could make some sort of argument about how, as a man, your whole thing is to
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provide for women.
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Sure.
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Why would you ever want to live in a civilization that allows women to work?
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Right?
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Right?
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Why should they ever have to work?
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Oh my God.
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Right.
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Oh my God.
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Nonsense.
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Anyway, the Dems.
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Yeah.
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The demon Satan folk.
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Right?
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Okay.
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Now, I just asked this question, right?
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Do we now have to admit that all the women who've ever been in the Republican Party here
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stupid or nakedly craven and have stolen money from everybody?
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No, because later Tucker is like, hey, you know that Tulsi, she's pretty great.
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She's one of the good ones.
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No, that's not possible.
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Unacceptable.
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Unacceptable.
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Yeah.
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Because it has to work in two ways, right?
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If women leaders leading to violence is inherently a bad thing, then leaders leading to violence
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is a bad thing, which doesn't need gender.
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So it should also work backwards where male leaders leading to violence is bad, right?
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Well, I'm sure it is.
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But look, Tulsi's cool.
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All right.
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Or if female leaders are bad, then all female leaders are bad.
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It can't be most female leaders are bad because then it's not the female that has anything
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to do with that.
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It is completely other effects.
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Yeah, but Tulsi is into Trump.
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So what you're saying within an argument that is women can't be leaders, but also this woman
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is good is because men are leaders, most women are incapable of reaching a point where I
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allow them to be leaders.
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Well, yeah, certainly.
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And in the system that I envision, Tulsi being in power is kind of not real.
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Right.
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She's not really in power.
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We leash her.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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She's subservient to Trump and understands that her position in that place.
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And that's why she's cool.
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Yeah, she's a bride of Christ.
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Yeah, she's fine.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If she were to assert some sort of independence within her-
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Kill her!
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Right.
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Yeah.
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She would instantly become the problem with women in powerful positions.
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So weird.
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Anyway, these Dems, they like to play like they're the victims.
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But also, Alex is a huge victim.
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Yeah.
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Would you believe that Letitia James bitched and complained and said Trump has weaponized
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things against me?
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It's kind of.
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Yeah.
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But that's the system behind-
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The entitlement level in this country has gotten very high.
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I will say.
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Well, that's not just hiding behind a woman, behind a black woman.
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That's all they're doing.
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It's totally transparent.
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Well, the most powerful people in our society consider themselves its greatest victims.
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You always notice that.
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Like, I'm a victim.
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I need security at my house.
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It's like, okay.
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No, you're not a victim.
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You're the perpetrator.
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So let me- speaking of victims and perpetrators, you are the victim of the greatest crime against
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free speech in the last 10 years.
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For your consideration, for a Webby Award, Tucker for craziest transition.
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That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
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Least self-aware transition.
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That people, people are so entitled these days.
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So entitled.
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Such victims.
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These days specifically.
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Now.
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Now, specifically.
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People are very entitled.
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And the most powerful people in the world, of which I am one, having interviewed Putin,
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having a massive amount of sway with an electorate, controlling so much wealth, are all the victims.
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By the way, you're a victim.
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Apparently the victim of the greatest attack on free speech ever.
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So free speech is important apparently.
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Oh my God.
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Flag burning.
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Not so- It is, it is, it is true.
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You know, that, that level of cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.
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It's not cognitive dissonance on their part.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's intentional.
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Absolutely.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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It's like, that is the, that is the technique.
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That is the tool that divides your brain into chunks.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's, it's effective.
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Effective.
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Yeah.
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And Alex's problem is not free speech.
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That's not, that's not a relevant factor in what happened with him.
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But he does do a long, just like, unlistenable stretch talking about his victimhood at the
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hands of the courts in the Sandy Hook case.
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And Tucker is like, you are so in the clear here.
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Oh, Alex Jones was mean to dead kids' families.
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There was never any evidence of that.
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Well, but even again, just to restate the Constitution of the United States, the country
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we live in, you're allowed to have any opinion you want.
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Okay.
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I agree.
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We're making a political point and the job of the government is to defend that right.
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That's the point of the Department of Justice, to defend that right.
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Get right with God, Tucker.
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Wow.
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You piece of shit.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Because if you're willing to defend as free speech whatever Alex did during Sandy Hook,
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then Trump is your enemy.
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There's no, there's no way around it.
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To say that out loud should get you struck by lightning.
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Yeah.
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Like that's just, that's just egregious to a point where it's, it is like cosmic.
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It's cosmically egregious.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so like earlier I was saying that I think that Alex is better at like obscuring his
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bad examples when he's making an argument.
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Right, right.
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It's so all over the place, non-sequiturs and stuff.
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And I think there's other things that Alex is better at.
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If Tucker wants to take this job that he clearly wants like some of whatever Alex's brand is,
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he's gonna need to get rid of this too.
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I would think that is why people voted for Trump.
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It's why I campaigned for him.
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You have to have justice in your country.
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I agree.
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More than an economy, more than stopping war.
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My listeners want indictments.
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And finally, Comey, Letitia James.
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Indictments of the guilty, not indictments of people you don't like, not indictments
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of people who pissed you off.
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Wrong.
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Oh, they cut and dried.
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They did everything they could.
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And who have escaped justice because of their political connections.
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That can't continue.
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Well, they started it, Tucker.
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Oh, I know.
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They started it.
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Mentality is no good.
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You want that to be subtext, not text.
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And then the second thing, you can't say I campaigned for Trump.
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You can't do that.
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You can't have been a political hack and a tool of a campaign.
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And if you are, that campaign has to be like Ron Paul.
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You have to have lost.
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There has to have been no chance of it ever getting off the ground.
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A global loss.
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Exactly.
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A champion of principle that we knew never had a chance of winning, but it was a protest
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by that.
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Right.
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And Tucker, it's undeniable that he was a part of the Trump campaign, but he has to
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deny it or at least has to never put it in those terms because now you're a campaigner.
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You're not as independent as you need to present yourself as.
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Yeah.
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I think the thing that he needs that's going to take him to the next level of Alex is removing
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all continuity because for him, he should be, it should be like a second skin to remove
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all continuity.
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Right.
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We don't need to worry about Iraq.
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Gone.
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Gone.
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Doesn't matter.
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We don't need to worry about Trump.
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Gone.
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Doesn't matter.
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You know, like tomorrow is a brand new day.
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I campaigned.
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I didn't campaign.
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I'm for it.
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I'm against it.
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Women.
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No women.
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Who cares?
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You know?
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Yeah.
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That would be helpful to him.
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And maybe he'll get there.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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The demons really force you to stay in the moment.
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It is tough.
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It is tough with the scratching and the clawing.
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So we have one last clip here and it's a reflective of a large chunk of the end of this episode,
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which is, you know, Alex telling people to go to his new websites, which is obviously
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a huge reason they did this interview to begin with.
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And then complaining about Todd Blanch, who's the deputy head of the DOJ.
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And he's the reason that Ed Martin stopped Alex's whole thing.
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Right.
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Right.
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For just briefly, Alex went to Ed Martin and was trying to get the Department of Justice
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to go after the Sandy Hook people who were suing him.
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And Todd Blanch was like, no.
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We for so many reasons.
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So many reasons.
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So Alex is on the warpath against Todd Blanch.
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Naturally.
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Todd Blanch is Bill Barr 2.0.
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And if you think that little sneaky lawyer is your friend, you're a fool.
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So I think Todd Blanch should be removed, not because of me, but because everybody I
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talk to, he is literally there working against the president.
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He's the one telling the U.S. attorneys, don't do these prosecutions.
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And then Trump gets pissed and says, do it.
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They do it.
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So, Trump, you did it with Sessions.
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You did it with Bill Barr.
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Why are you doing it with Blanch right now?
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Please.
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I don't understand this blind spot of Trump.
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I've never heard any of this before, but that's why I'm a fan of yours, because I always learn
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a lot.
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Godspeed, Alex Jones.
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Truly.
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Thank you.
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Tucker, love you, brother.
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Great to see you, man.
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Thank you, sir.
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Thank you.
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Oh, my God.
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I've never heard any of this shit, and that's why I like talking to you, because you just
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tell me things that I'll pretend are true.
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Just don't lie to me this bad.
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Just don't lie to me like this.
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It hurts to be lied to like this.
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You mean for Tucker, or for ...
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Yeah, when Tucker lies to me like this, like, I've never heard any of this stuff before.
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But I think that some of that might be true, and there's a reason why he wouldn't have
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heard a lot of this stuff, sure, because it's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Well, there's that.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of it is niche Alex bullshit.
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Right, right, right.
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And his sort of boutique grievances.
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And so, yeah, when he's like, I haven't heard any of this stuff, it's like, yeah, and you
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should have the instinct.
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You have a giant platform, and this isn't your first day on TV.
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You should have an instinct to treat it as, oh, this is something Alex is saying, not
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something that is the truth.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I guess now it's become like, to me, what Alex is saying is one big, long thing.
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You know, like Kerouac and On the Road.
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It's just one big, long thing.
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He's not saying individual things.
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He's only ever saying one big thing.
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So the idea of like, I haven't heard this before.
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Yeah, you have, but you've heard it like this last year, and you've heard it like that two
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years ago, and you've heard it like that three years ago.
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You have heard this before.
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Yes, definitely.
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Definitely.
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You know?
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Look at that.
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But there's a corollary of that, or there's a side implication of that.
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And that is when he's like, I haven't heard any of this stuff.
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It's him admitting, I don't listen to your dumb show.
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Of course, of course I don't listen to any of this shit.
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I'm happy to promote you mostly because I don't have to take responsibility for being
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aware of your career and what you actually do.
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Have you not listened to some of my questions?
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When you are talking, my brain is going, la la la la la la la.
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I'm a little talker the elf.
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La la la.
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I'm so mad at women.
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I hate my audience.
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Yeah, that's what's going on in his head.
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Yep.
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Anyway, we made it to the end.
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No superpowers.
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Nope.
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I knew like, no I don't want you to jump.
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No, I don't want to jump either because it's gonna, the landing is gonna be hard.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be hard.
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Fuck.
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Well, I really thought we had a chance.
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I mean, really, if anybody could, I think it would be Tucker.
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I think there's something so specifically grating about him.
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And then the amount of history he has of being a piece of shit, it's kind of amazing.
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I like this as a new thing where we're trying to wake up your ex-gene.
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I think that's good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If we can torture me into a level of excellence that has never been reached before, I could
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be Shohei.
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Well, because Alex and Tucker have such a disrespect for continuity and the fact that
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things exist in the past, I feel like we have to impose new layers of continuity on ourselves.
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And now we have the quest for powers.
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Yeah.
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Our ultimate defense against their offense is developing superpowers.
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Yeah.
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And I'm gonna need some of your blood.
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I'm gonna run some tests.
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Obviously, obviously.
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So while the blood's in the centrifuge, I guess we should go.
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But we'll be back.
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Until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXFark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo!
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
