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Heaven Cares
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Dan and George. Knowledge Fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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I need, I need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy.
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Stop it. Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge Fight.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes. I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your Bright Spot today buddy?
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My Bright Spot today, might as well talk about MacGyver.
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Might as well.
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I watched episode five.
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Alright.
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Still strong. Still going strong.
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Okay.
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One kiss.
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Right.
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Um, so he's up to seven.
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Okay.
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Uh, still quite, I mean he's ahead of the game.
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Same, I'm assuming it's a different lady.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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For, for what, in what context are we getting smooches this time?
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I don't remember. I just remember it happened.
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Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.
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Oh no, no I do.
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Okay.
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Uh, but the context that I would need to, okay, I'll just give it to you.
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Go for it.
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They, they are sitting in the front seat of a convertible.
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Okay.
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That has fallen out of a plane.
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Bap.
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And there's a parachute, a giant parachute, so they're like floating to the ground.
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Of course.
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And she's very excited so they kiss.
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Right, right, right. So I assume they're floating flat.
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Yes.
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As opposed to being vertical as you would imagine.
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Yeah.
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How it would go.
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Mm-hmm.
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Alright.
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Yeah, perfectly balanced.
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Perfectly balanced for a nice kiss.
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Alright.
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Sitting there in a convertible with a trunk full of diamonds.
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Like a hot air balloon kind of situation.
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That would be romantic.
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Actually in a, in a, the last episode, MacGyver did escape from a place in a hot air balloon.
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Yeah.
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Which I thought was so inefficient.
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It's a wildly.
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It'd be so slow.
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It's, boy.
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It would be hard to, it would be hard to chase somebody in a, in a hot air balloon and not go like,
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well I mean, let's have a picnic first.
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Mm-hmm.
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We'll catch up.
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So in this episode, a guy who runs a casino stole 200 pounds of diamonds.
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That's a lot of diamonds.
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From international aid.
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It was supposed to, like the money that involved with these diamonds was supposed to go to feeding a, a famine.
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Motherfuckers.
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A country that is experiencing a famine.
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Uh-huh.
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And so he stole it.
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Right.
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And he's going to sell it.
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Sure.
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You know, make a, make a lot of money.
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I mean, yeah.
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So MacGyver has to break into his casino, find out where the diamonds are.
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Mm-hmm.
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And once he does find out that they're in the guy's private suite.
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Yeah.
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He concocts an elaborate system where he pours the diamonds down a rain gutter.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then they all go into the trunk of this car.
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Genius.
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Yeah.
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While the woman that he is working with is pulling off an elaborate distraction.
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Okay.
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To cause a riot at the casino.
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Okay.
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Um, man, it's good.
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That's great.
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It's just good stuff.
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That sounds great.
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That sounds like fun.
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It sounds like good ol', I, I, I genuinely have forgotten what TV was like whenever it was just silly and fun like that.
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Now it's either silly and serious about being silly.
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Like, hey, we're absurd.
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This isn't a joke.
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This is crazy.
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Yeah.
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Or it's all soap operas.
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Yeah.
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I'm still not sure who he is, what he does, or anything.
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Yeah.
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But there's something about 1985 that I fucking love, and that is that they do not quite care about lasers.
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Right.
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But they know they're powerful.
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They, yes.
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So in one episode he used a laser like, just a mirror.
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Sure.
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And he reflected the laser back at itself and then it exploded.
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Of course.
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That was great.
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Can't do, lasers can't do that.
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Right.
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They know each, they know they can't do that.
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And in this episode the guy has a penthouse.
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Uh huh.
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And he has like a laser, like a trip alarm kind of thing.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
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You know, if you walk through this doorway with the laser.
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The laser alarm goes off.
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Right.
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So what MacGyver does is he takes a tube, right?
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Uh huh.
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And he puts the laser in one end of the tube.
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No.
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And then bends it.
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No.
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So he can duck under the laser.
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I don't think that's how that works.
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He connects it at both sides though so the laser is being directed through this tube.
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Right.
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No, I get that.
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I get that.
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And maybe that is how that works.
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It's great.
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But also maybe that would just trip anyways.
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Oh yeah, definitely.
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Probably just trip it.
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It's silly but it's also not like so, it's not, it, I believe someone could have thought
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that would work in 85.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I mean, and the TV, yeah.
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Those, the premises were just always so great.
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This guy has a helicopter.
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The end.
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That is the show.
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This man solves problems using his helicopter.
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It's great.
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Perfect.
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This guy is just cool.
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He's just really good at stuff in a pinch.
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And literally everything.
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Yeah.
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And get on him.
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Yeah.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, we talked about it a while back.
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I was looking forward to Hades 2 and Final Fantasy Tactics.
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And I was playing Hades 2 for a while but then I got back into Tactics and man, it's
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just one of the, it's just so great.
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Yeah.
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It's so great and I was thinking about what makes it so great from a storytelling perspective.
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And it does have one of my favorite things to do.
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Uh, which is, the story is not the story.
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Right?
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You're playing somebody else's side character.
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You've got your own whole thing going on, right?
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But beside you is the actual King Arthur.
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The guy who's going to become the king.
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Who's going on that whole hero's journey to defeat this guy and yada yada yada.
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And you're over here and your story intersects with that one.
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Like, it comes in and out.
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You know?
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It's always around you.
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But you're on this different quest entirely.
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Feels kind of like Skyrim.
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The way that the world is existing in this civil war kind of thing.
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But then also you're...
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And then you're doing your old dragon thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's whenever you've got a straightforward plot.
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Where you start from one point and you end at another.
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Right?
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One of the great ways to make it feel like there's a lot of twists and turns is if you're setting is the plot of another book.
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Sure.
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Right?
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So it's like, well, I'm going from room to room in this house basically.
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Each room is like a new encounter.
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Right?
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But the way it makes me feel like I'm twisting and turning on the ocean is because that other guy is just running by me going like,
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AHHH!
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And then he's gone.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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I know I told you I would play it and I've yet to do that.
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But one of these days I will.
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Thanks.
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Based on everything you've said and everybody else has said, I can't imagine how I would be disappointed.
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I don't.
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I just don't know how to build it up more because if you don't like it, fine, whatever, you're wrong.
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That's how great it is.
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That's fair.
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That's fair.
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I have that feeling about some things.
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I will hear no negative talk about it.
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Yep.
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And I respect that other people have their things.
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They can be done.
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So I'll check that out.
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I've also been playing a little Hades too.
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Oh yeah?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm enjoying it.
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It's fun.
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It's good stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's like Hades but it's more.
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It's almost exactly like Hades but more.
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Yeah.
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It's great.
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Nuts.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Yep.
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And we're going to talk about something.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, my partner is Alex and I'm Nick.
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Lately, we've thrown countless white supremacist quotes on each other while y'all were talking about Jones and Fuentes.
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Signed two wonks with unfortunate names.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, to the one and only Shub Nuggaroth the First.
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You have made us happy beyond what we thought was possible.
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You've enriched our lives so much that we cannot express it in words.
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We salute you and will forever be members of the cult of Shub Nuggaroth the First.
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We miss you, Anit, Atina, Roberto, and Dalek.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Mikkel, but oh god, don't say it like it rhymes with nickel.
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It's pronounced like Michael.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I played along with that one.
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Yep.
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And we got 10th grade in the mix, Jordan.
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Ooh.
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So thank you so much, too.
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Shoutout to DJ Dan Arkey.
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The opening still slaps on 1.5 speed.
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Big up to Dan's mom for getting him to keep the full version.
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Jordan's wife for turning him into a wife guy is my permanent bright spot.
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All meows be to Celine.
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And Jordan, can I please get a throwback?
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Hi, Carrie.
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Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat.
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Hi, Carrie.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So Jordan, big news this week around InfoWars.
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Okay.
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The Supreme Court once again officially refused to hear an appeal of Alex's defamation cases
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where he lost by default judgement.
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Aww.
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In terms of the court, there are no more moves for him to make.
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And for the most part, Alex is just kind of waiting for the other shoe to fall so he can get on with it.
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In the current status quo, he has to keep InfoWars running for two reasons.
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One, if he just abandoned the company and moved on to his new fake businesses,
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it would destroy the idea that he's operating in good faith in the bankruptcy court
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and it could lead the courts to consider treating the new businesses, these fake businesses,
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as extensions of InfoWars and thus they might end up becoming subject to the bankruptcy.
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You bet.
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Two, the audience needs to see him be forced out of InfoWars,
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which is to say that he can't leave on his own.
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His entire life has been a build up to being Colonel Travis at the Alamo
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and this is basically his only shot to capture those optics.
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Alex can't afford to blow this spectacle and he knows that his audience would feel pretty let down
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if he voluntarily left the studio, so someone needs to drag him out.
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Interestingly, the worst thing that could happen to Alex right now is for this to go on longer.
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Every day he has to keep InfoWars open is a day he's losing some amount of money on the crew
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and the overhead of that dumb studio, so he has to be really hoping that people come to seize his shit soon.
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As I've said a bunch, the primary mission for Alex right now is customer migration
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and making sure that most people possible go to this new app and his new website.
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If he can get a relatively close number of customers to make that jump with him,
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he'll be able to continue doing the same kind of bullshit he's been doing,
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but with the huge expenses that InfoWars brought with it limited,
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because he'll just be doing a podcast or whatever.
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Lowering the overhead for his ridiculous business would make more sense than any other choice he could make.
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And thus, it wasn't too surprising to see that Alex was out of studio earlier this week.
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He has more important tasks than his own show right now,
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between the legal stuff and the need to drum up attention for the new site.
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As Alex has become entirely untethered to any pretense of caring about his precious constitution,
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I'm sure the audience has noticed that I've had a little bit less interest in him too.
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He's only a compelling figure so long as he's presenting a perspective that you can disagree with,
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but you have to accept is rooted in some sincere belief.
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Once that grounding is taken away, then there's no standard to judge a person by.
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Everything Alex says is a lie, not because it's all lies,
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but because if circumstances require it, anything he said can be disowned, and it doesn't matter.
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During the first Trump term, Alex probably wanted Trump to do a lot of the shit that he's doing now,
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but the difference is, he is doing it now.
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In the abstract, with someone like Alex, it's hard to take his shit talk too seriously.
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He sold shirts that said, lock her up, but you kinda got the sense that if Trump legit arrested Hillary,
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Alex might have thought that was going too far.
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January 6th is a perfect embodiment of this tension,
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where he spent months leading Stop the Steal protests and screaming about how the election was stolen,
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but when the rubber hit the road and people were storming the Capitol, he was on a bullhorn trying to stop them.
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The business always came first, and having a tyrant in office was bad for business.
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Overthrowing the 2020 election and killing Democratic senators in a riot at the Capitol,
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that would have been bad for business, and I think this is part of what's fundamentally changed.
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Trump just is the business now. This is it.
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As I've been losing my interest in Alex, I've simultaneously been picking up much more interest in Tucker Carlson,
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who's clearly decided that he wants to be the next Alex.
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He's been attacked by a demon, he's building a media empire funded by bizarre, low-rung but loyal sponsors,
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and right now he's in the middle of releasing a five-part documentary series about what really happened on 9-11.
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That actually is Alex Jones. That's Alex's whole thing.
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He's wearing his skin.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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And if Tucker succeeds in the pivot that he's in the middle of, Alex will officially be entirely obsolete.
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He will just be a guy who's bald, who's doing Tucker. Tucker will have stolen his entire spirit.
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Yeah, because he used to be able, at the very least, to do something that Tucker could never do, which is throw hatchets at shit.
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Be free.
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Right, but now he can't even do that.
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Not really.
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He's weak.
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It's like Glenn Beck can pretend to be me, but he will never be me.
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Now, it's like, Tucker is just you.
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You're pretending to be you. If anybody's pretending to be you, it's you.
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So, I've been watching more Tucker, and guess what the fuck happened?
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Alex popped up as a guest again.
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Oh, damn it.
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I'm trying to get some space from this ding-dong and he won't leave me alone.
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So today we're going to talk about Alex being not Tucker.
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Alright.
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Oh, great.
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He just, I understand that I do a podcast about Alex Jones, but I feel like he's following me.
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Yeah, it shouldn't be that way. It's supposed to go the other direction at worst.
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I'm trying to get some breathing space by going to a different bar than I usually go to.
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Go over to the Tucker bar.
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Alex just ends up showing up with some other friends at the Tucker bar.
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God damn it.
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Yeah, I've never imagined the idea of somebody lightly stalking you, and your response to that is being like,
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Oh, you think you know how to stalk? Motherfucker, I'm in your bathroom and just going way too hard on it.
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It's like that episode of Tenacious D, the old HBO show where they have a fan who they think is a stalker and then they end up stalking him.
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Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lee.
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Yep, I remember that.
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So, we start off, Tucker saying hello to Alex.
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Welcome him to Demented Mayberry.
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Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen. Really glad to have you back.
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It's always great to be with you and your wonderful crew in Florida, but Maine is my favorite. This is truly a little slice of Mayberry.
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Mildly Demented Mayberry. Thank you.
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Gotta love that guitar.
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Man, he should not be allowed to steal that down home country ass bullshit.
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Yeah, let him have it. I don't give a shit.
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Okay, fine.
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So, most of the beginning of the episode where they jump in is talking about Russia.
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Sure.
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Talking about how NATO is bad and Russia is very good.
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They're great.
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And so, they come to a position that I think is really interesting and that is that supporting the Ukraine is actually anti-Europe.
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Interesting.
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And then now, as I predicted, it was the next move.
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NATO claims that Russia is going into the zero phase or zero hour and that NATO is now putting out propaganda the last 48 hours that Russia has pre-positioned undercover special forces all over Europe, preparing terror attacks and mass casualty events.
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And that Russia is preparing to attack Europe proper, which of course is completely insane to do that offensively.
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And so, that fits the pattern of the preparation for false flags that will then be blamed on Russia as the pretext to invoke the articles in NATO that brings NATO directly into war.
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And then the United States is still part of NATO. That will drag us directly into war with Russia that will quickly escalate into thermonuclear war in every major war game there is.
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Sure.
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That's why I'm here with Elon Musk and Senator Lee that it's time for us to get out of NATO.
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Immediately.
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If you take three steps back, so Europe has no reason to fight Russia at all.
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Europe has every reason to cooperate with Russia, at least on energy, but on a lot of things probably.
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It refuses. Russia has now formed an alliance, probably permanent with China.
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And Ukraine of course can't win. They don't have the manpower. They never could.
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So if you're escalating the war at this point, if you're promoting the war at this point, it seems to me your goal is to destroy Europe.
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So obviously a huge part of this show is how great Russia is and how bad Ukraine is because that's an important piece of Alex and Tucker's politics right now.
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Tucker's argument is fine if you take out the part where Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukraine is our ally.
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They aren't in NATO, but we and other countries in Europe have relations with them and they were invaded.
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He can say that Europe has no reason to fight with Russia, but they actually do.
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In order for Tucker to hold this position, he has to think that it's fine for countries to invade their neighbors and that it only makes sense to provide aid to allies if they're going to win a conflict.
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Tucker just supports Russia and Putin, but he's not willing to own that position because he knows he couldn't defend many of the points he'd have to deal with if he just came out with it.
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So he does bullshit like this. Oh, there's no reason why they would have a problem with this, this invasion. Fuck you.
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Yeah. And I would say to the last point, you know, I would argue that the Taliban won.
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So I think really at a certain point, it's just to like, as long as you spend a lot more money than you can realistically afford to spend trying to take over an hour of our, you know, an hour of driving space, I think you will probably lost.
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I think Tucker has interesting and evolving positions on the Taliban over the years.
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I bet he does.
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So Alex is he's like, well, this Russia stuff, Israel, all this stuff. No, no, no. We should focus on China. It's going to be China.
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It was been the policy United States since the 50s right through Nixon, right to Reagan, right through Herbert Walker Bush, right until just the last five years or so to split China from Russia.
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Of course.
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And that is a very good policy. And you have China that is actually expanding all over the South China Sea, just cut off 95 percent of rarest minerals to the world, including the U.S.
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Serious act of war, absolutely vital and everything we do for folks that don't know nothing works. Cell phones, computers, avionics and aircraft, everything, satellites is based on those.
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That's all their question. How is China allowed to position itself for 95 percent plus control of rare minerals?
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That's a serious act of war. So their expansion is taking islands, the Philippines, taking drilling rigs off the coast of Vietnam.
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All that's happening. They just put a communist government or trying to fully in South Korea.
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So China is on the move and everything should be focused on them.
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It is a strategic blunder of biblical proportions to be roped into the Soros NATO war.
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But NATO and the EU Unelected Commission has said from years that Europe's demographics and finances are the worst of any First World nation or sector.
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And so they say their business model is a 20 to 30 year war conventional with Russia that they believe will allow them to stay on a war economy and will finally break Russia.
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And then they will break Russia into five parts. That's official EU commission policy.
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So right here would be a good time for a sincere interviewer to ask Alex where he was getting this 20 to 30 year EU commission policy from.
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It's stated policy. So there must be a primary source that Alex is pulling from. Right? You'd think he'd be able to produce this quite easily.
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Otherwise it wouldn't be stated. The stated part means that it has been stated.
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Yeah. The EU commission is a real body that puts out white papers. So if it's their policy, then it should be super easy to back this up.
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Especially if they stated it.
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The EU commission put out a white paper titled European Defense Readiness 2030.
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And I'm kind of suspicious that Alex took the 20 and 30 from there.
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It's the year 2030.
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Yeah. I wish that didn't sound so right.
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It's about how the EU countries need to enact a plan of defensive rearming in the face of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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But it doesn't say that they need a 20 to 30 year war for economic or demographic reasons.
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The idea that the EU was planning a 20 to 30 year war with Russia is a big deal.
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And if Alex could prove it, it would go a long way towards proving that the EU side here doesn't have pure intentions in the conflict.
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So that's something that Tucker should be eager to show everyone.
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You notice that he doesn't ask a follow up about this or press Alex on it because he knows that Alex is bluffing all this shit.
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And it only works if you don't question it. Just go along with it.
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Yep.
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Act like, oh my god.
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Because it doesn't matter if it's true or not. You're not interested in the truth of what you're saying.
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The only thing that matters is I am saying this Russia good, Europe bad.
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This is the bullshit I'm making up. You say it later to somebody else. It doesn't matter. I don't care.
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Yeah. And Alex has a posture too of just like, he's just saying, just saying stuff.
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You know, like it's just dull. He wants to be taken seriously.
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And Tucker having to sit there and play straight man to that is awful.
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It's just an embarrassing setup for both participants.
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But, you know, they talk about what they need to talk about, which is that Christendom is under attack.
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Of course it is.
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And the question is, why is the unelected commission and the US Neocons and left fully supporting this commitment to total war?
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Because they want to destroy Christian civilization. That's why.
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That's why they got behind the first and second World Wars.
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And that's why the lesson they taught us in school was that it's dangerous to have a big white Christian country, which is not actually.
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And they think they taught you that lesson.
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Destroy those countries and they've succeeded.
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And Russia is a very Christian nation, very pro-western. And the left hates that.
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And so now they exactly how do they turn over the chessboard when the Hollywood,
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satanic globalist black rocket leader failing is you kamikaze the Russians and America and Europe into a giant climactic war while the globalists sit back and watch us all kill each other.
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Totally right. I think that's totally right.
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Why are we participating in it? Why would the US government ever send long range missiles?
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Why would that basically if we send those munitions to Ukraine, we're at open war.
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We've been at war with Russia for three and a half years, as you know, but that would be open war. Why would we go along with that?
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So you can see from this clip that the conversation that they're interested in having is one about white Christian identity, not anything about geopolitics.
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So let's just dispense with that illusion.
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As for why the US might be sending Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, that's a question for Tucker and Alex's chosen leader.
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Biden didn't do that. The globalists didn't do that.
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Their daddy is the one who's talking about that, which is weird, considering that he had that whole PR spectacle like six months ago where he yelled at and humiliated Zelensky in the White House.
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Seems like this Trump guy is inconsistent and dangerous. Oh, well, probably the globalists fault.
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I wish there was some sort of mechanism that, cause it would be like, hey listen, you'd have to be an idiot looking at the history of humanity and not think, well, we're going to give an idiot too much power.
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Right? That happens 100% of the time in all historic governments. We're going to give an idiot too much power.
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So what we got to do is we got to build into our system a system that will correct for when that idiot gets into power.
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We'll just have it there. If it needs to be declared, I'm sure people will have the backbone necessary to declare it.
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In case of idiot break glass. Absolutely. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
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Well, you know, like fires happen and that's why you have sprinklers and extinguishers. Yep.
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It is, it sucks. It sucks knowing that we have a fire extinguisher, but everybody around it is like, it could get hot.
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Yeah. And it sucks that you're having to watch people like Alex and Tucker who were like, set the fire and started screaming about burn, burn.
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And they love the fire. Oh, they love it. And now they're pointing out that there's a fire. Wow. It's not our fault that there's a fire.
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Fuck you, dude. Fuck you. So the U.S. continues to recognize Zelensky as the leader in Ukraine.
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But like, why? Why would the U.S. government continue to recognize Zelensky, who's an unelected dictator,
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who's worked for years to destroy Christianity in Ukraine, which is a Christian country and has always been?
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Why would he be invited to the White House this week? I don't understand. He does not have a Democratic mandate.
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He's not an elected leader. He's a murderer. They've sold our weapons to some of the worst terror groups in the world.
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And we're treating him like he's a head of state. Like, why are we doing that?
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And just what, a few weeks ago, three weeks ago, he was back at the White House and Trump then posted for social.
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And I love Trump overall, but Trump started doing a 180 from saying, we need to get out of this and saying, well, we're out of it, but we'll sell whatever weapons of Europe you want.
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And I feel like Ukraine is going to win and maybe not just get back its territory, but get more territory, meaning Russia, which is an extremely provocative and escalatory statement to Russia.
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That's your guy, asshole. Like, if Trump didn't want to recognize Zelensky as the leader of Ukraine, he could just do that tomorrow.
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It's pretty clear that he can just do whatever he wants. And then the government has to play catch up to decide if the things that he did were legal.
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And then that's mostly just paperwork for posterity. I guess the question I would ask Tucker is, if Zelensky isn't the president of Ukraine, who is?
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Is there another person there who claims to be the leader or is the head of the opposition party who wants to be recognized? Or do people actually support Zelensky?
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There are a ton of political parties in Ukraine, and Zelensky has gotten some heat for banning 19 of them.
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It's debatable whether or not this is appropriate, and under ideal circumstances, you wouldn't want to do this. But these were parties that had ties to Putin and Russia who were in the middle of invading Ukraine.
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The other accusation about him being anti-democratic is that the planned election in 2024 was canceled.
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Pretty much every leader in Ukraine, pro-Zelensky or not, agrees that in a wartime condition like the one they're in, it would be impossible to hold a free and fair election.
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It would just be logistically impossible.
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Yes. A poll conducted by sociological centrist Sosys in February 2025 found that 63% of Ukrainians did not want to hold an election until the war was over.
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You can say that not having an election is undemocratic, but there's also an argument that in this position, it's the most democratic thing you can do.
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I mean, the idea of trying to hold an election while another country is actively inside your country would suggest that they could probably do some serious damage to the accuracy of your vote count.
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It would be impossible to poll certain places.
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Right. Which is like, well then, we're not having a free and fair election.
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No.
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So...
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In terms of being anti-Christian, that's also not true.
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In 2024, Zelensky's government passed a bill that outlawed organizations that maintained ties with Moscow and Putin.
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This included religious organizations, most notably the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
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Members of the UOC have been charged with storing weapons for Russian troops in churches and revealing Ukrainian troop movements in sermons.
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Mmm.
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Certainly, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is a large entity, and not all of their members are covertly supporting and invading countries, so this tension between the UOC and Ukraine's government is probably larger than it needs to be.
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At the core of the issue is that the UOC has removed their connection to the Russian Orthodox Church from their charter, but the Russian Orthodox Church hasn't removed them from what they consider to be their constellation of churches.
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Ukraine considers them to be an offshoot of the Russian Orthodox Church unless that status is removed, and the UOC believes that they've done everything that they need to do on their part.
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So, this isn't as simple as Tucker wants it to be, like with pretending that Zelensky is anti-Christian, but it also would be unfair to say that Zelensky's move here doesn't deserve some criticism.
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Sure.
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It's always a dicey move to have a state oppose a church.
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From a just purely strategic standpoint, you're not going to be able to get the church, get rid of it.
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It's always tough.
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The followers aren't just going to go somewhere else because you told them to.
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When people challenged the pope because they thought they had all the power, they learned a lot of bad things about how much power they had. It's not a good idea.
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Even if you think everything with the move of being like, ah, this church is out.
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This is correct.
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Even if you think that's cool, you're creating an increasingly hostile religious entity inside your borders, and in some ways that could make the initial problem that you were trying to solve worse.
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Yep.
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So it may be a no-win situation that Zelensky finds himself in, but those actions are not an attempt to crush Christendom or whatever the fuck Tucker and Alex are going on about.
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No. What's funny about it is that it's the inverse of what we were told on.
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Okay, so Russia's doing in Iraq right now, essentially, right?
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And we're hearing about Iraq from places that aren't the United States, so we're not used to that, right?
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But essentially, there's no difference between that thought of like, oh, they're going to meet us as liberators, right?
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Liberators.
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Okay, so if you feel like you've got an unelected government that's taking over and fighting a war with the warriors of the other team in your house, join them and get rid of your government!
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They're already there!
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Right.
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Right?
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That's, yeah, and it's not a coincidence that Tucker was in favor of the Iraq war.
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Exactly. Because they're going to greet us as liberators.
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And now is like, well, these people are toiling under an unelected government.
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Seems like he's good at this.
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Yeah.
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So, like I said, though, too, the fundamental problem that he's seeming to have, this question is, why do we continue to recognize Zelensky?
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And it's like, your guy can do anything.
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I mean, we're past the point where you can say, like, I don't know what the government, like, you know, back in the day, you could be like, oh, Congress is telling the president not to do it!
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All this red tape!
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Or the Supreme Court, we have to wait until the Supreme Court rules next year!
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Or we have to do this!
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And now it's like, nope, your guy just said it and then people did it, so it's on you.
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Yeah. And then everyone is chasing behind, trying to pick up pieces and shit.
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Yep.
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And like, I think it would be a lot more compelling for Tucker to have this kind of position that could be a little bit out of step with the Trump administration if he didn't share the stage with half of the administration at Charlie Kirk's funeral memorial service thing.
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Like, if he didn't call Trump daddy on the campaign trail.
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Like, all this bullshit.
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It's about making change from the inside, Dan.
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Right.
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So Alex asks Tucker an inconvenient question.
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And almost like clockwork, something happens.
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And we know that Putin agreed, actually, to the framework of what Trump wanted, but Zelensky and NATO have refused.
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And so we have to ask the calculus of why the president, who's, you know, Mr. Peace Prize has done a great job helping in seven other conflicts, which I totally support.
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Why is he suddenly changing course? Tucker, you know a lot better than I do.
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So did you know that before the current generation, chips and fries were cooked in natural fats like beef tallow?
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That's how things used to be done.
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OK.
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In professional media circles, this is what's known as a strategic commercial break.
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Tucker is not on TV or radio, so he doesn't have to cut to hard breaks.
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It's entirely at his own discretion.
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He chose to go to a commercial there because Alex just asked a direct question that implicates Tucker's inside knowledge of how the administration is justifying supporting Ukraine.
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And Tucker doesn't want to answer that question.
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He doesn't want the connective tissue of whatever he says next and that question.
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Right.
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This is a basic misdirect.
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It's an inconvenient and uncomfortable question.
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So throw an ad in there, and when you come back, you can pick up wherever you want.
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You can just jump to an entirely different part of the conversation, or you can play Tucker's answer, knowing that the audience will have largely forgotten what Alex asked because they were just sold beef tallow.
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So we come back from commercial and here's what Tucker's answer to that question appears to be.
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For the shop in person in October, moss is going to be available at your local Sprouts supermarket.
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So stop by and pick up a bag before we eat them all.
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We eat a lot.
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Why the attraction to Zelensky?
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Why does our foreign policy class or donor class have this fixation on Zelensky?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:53.299)
He's a hero.
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By the way, I've tried to interview him like 20 times.
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He refuses to interview with me, but he's everywhere in the United States.
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He's basically American at this point.
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Why the what's the appeal there?
Unknown Speaker (00:34:04.299)
I think it's the money laundering appeal.
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If that is the answer that he gave to Alex's question, it would feel jarring.
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That question being asked and then him just asking a question back.
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Yeah.
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So I would strongly suspect something was cut out there.
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Yeah, it felt a little bit like we were in a car following another car and then that car crossed over some train tracks and then the train crossed over.
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And it's like we're just stuck there waiting to see what happens.
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I don't know where we're going to find this car again, but we're not going to find it where it's supposed to be.
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Yeah.
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And I think that if Tucker didn't have a long and documented history of editing things that are inconvenient for the message that he wants to put out.
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I'd be less suspicious of that very suspicious commercial.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:49.300)
Yeah. So you know the guy. Why is he doing this stuff? Cut to commercial.
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So they start talking about 9-11 because Tucker's doing a five part series on 9-11.
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Never forget.
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And Alex talks about how the the neo cons. They did it.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:05.300)
Oh.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:06.300)
Tucker was a neo con.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:08.300)
Yeah, he was super a neo con.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:10.300)
Yeah.
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If you really study 9-11 and at the end of the day, it was an alliance of Israeli neo cons and U.S. neo cons that bare minimum used an attack to build a larger attack around it for the project for American Century to take us into the past American war in the Middle East.
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And that's where we know 10 trillion dollars later, whatever it is, it's 11 trillion or more are in this.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:32.300)
That's not a theory. I was there. I mean, I shared office space for the project for New American Century. I worked at the Weekly Standard.
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You sure did.
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Yes. That is just a fact that happened.
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This is a huge problem.
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If Tucker was sharing office space with the project for a new American Century and he can vouch that they were plotting 9-11 as a false flag in order to justify a wider war because he was there and he knew these guys.
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And then Tucker's actions supporting the Iraq war aren't really an error in judgment anymore.
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If what Tucker is saying is true here, then he was a witting and fully aware conspirator acting in the media to convince the public that 9-11 was a real attack and that it justified going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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In order for Tucker to present himself as an authority in this space, he unfortunately will need to confess to some much bigger sins than he's willing to take on at this point.
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If you're sitting across the table from someone who's saying stuff like this and you've already said that Tucker has been in the CIA for his entire life, you should probably be concerned about what he's trying to sell you.
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I know that it feels cool for Alex to be like, oh, Tucker wants to pay attention to me.
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But by Alex's own telling of the story, he's a lifelong CIA agent, second generation.
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Someone who is now saying that he was around and hanging out with the guys who did 9-11.
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Yeah, if that were even remotely true, or even kind of like if you put yourself into the headspace of somebody who in reality was there while they planned 9-11, did nothing about it, then actively helped create a narrative around 9-11 that caused the further deaths of millions upon millions of people, I would kill myself.
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It makes you think that Tucker is lying here, or he's in some real deep shit. He's so much more involved with things than, Alex should be running away from him.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:29.300)
Yeah, if this is even like an iota of truth in this, this man is worse than any serial killer you've ever watched a TV show about. This man has killed millions of people.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:41.300)
Yeah, but he's cool now.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:42.300)
I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:43.300)
Yeah, he's cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:44.300)
Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:45.300)
So look, if you call people neoconservative, if you say they're neocons, everybody tries to say that that's antisemitic of you.
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Is it?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:54.300)
Not really, but kind of.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:56.300)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:57.300)
But you know, they call it, if you talk about neocons, that's antisemitic. Well, yeah, about half the neocons were Jewish, but the fact is they're crazy warmongers that believe the end justifies the mean.
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And when you get further back, Trotsky got kicked out by Stalin, and he ran to Mexico.
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Stalin had him hunted down and killed by an assassin with an ice axe. And then all of his top people came to the US, became the neocons, and said, we're going to take over the Republican Party, and we're going to go to war with Russia to get back control of what's ours.
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Because Trotsky was supposed to replace Lenin when he died, but instead he got kicked out.
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And so it is a fact, historical fact, even the Wall Street Journal 20 years ago wrote about it, that when you look at the weekly standard and you look at the neocons, they are literal Trotskyite communists.
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Sounds true.
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From a Russian derivation that set up a neoconism. And then you had Cheney and Rumsfeld and others that weren't Jewish, but were large parts of the neocon system.
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And so that's why Netanyahu plugged into that so nicely, because he came out of the neocons in the 1970s and 80s.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:04.300)
No, that's all just a fact. I mean, there's nothing hidden or creepy about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:10.300)
That's a little creepy. So it's not always antisemitic to call someone a neocon, but it is used as a code in some circles. It's the same thing as globalist.
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Some people use these words sincerely, and some people have found that they're very useful ways to hide what they're actually saying.
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And so getting into an argument about whether or not calling someone a neocon is bigoted or antisemitic, it's counterproductive.
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Neoconservatives weren't just the students of Trotsky who decided to come to the United States and take over so they could reclaim Russia. That's fucking stupid.
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In reality, they were mostly disaffected liberal types in the 60s who hated the anti-war protests and the counterculture that was being embraced by the left.
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They were the Dave Rubins of their time, the like, why I left the left crowd. They're more Joe Rogan than Leon Trotsky.
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I liked fucking, but now there's gay people?
Unknown Speaker (00:39:59.300)
Right. This but no further kind of left people.
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During the Reagan administration, there was a split between the neoconservatives and the paleoconservatives, as the neocons began to rise in power and the old guard lost some of it.
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Figures like Pat Buchanan and all of Alex's ideological heroes were on the losing side of this exchange, so a lot of their ideology took shape around the idea that there was a conspiracy to usurp them and that the neocons were secret leftists.
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A lot of Alex's ideological heroes were also super anti-Semitic, so a lot of this gets jumbled up in a way that's really difficult to unpack.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:34.300)
I guess Tucker was a secret Trotskyite CIA agent who was promoting war on TV wearing a silly bow tie for most of his career, though, based on what he's saying.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:44.300)
Yep. That's cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:46.300)
What is the worst thing that can be implied about you, specifically, that you'll just go, that's facts, too, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:40:56.300)
Like, what could you, like, hey, you know what it's like to murder millions of people. That's facts!
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Like, how do you respond to that shit like that? You're just a psycho.
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It was a gig.
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Fair enough.
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What are you gonna do?
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That's facts!
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Uh huh.
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Jesus Christ.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:11.300)
So, evil, um...
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What about it?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:14.300)
They want to destroy Christian society.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:16.300)
I think they were hand in hand.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:19.300)
Well, maybe, but have you considered where your beef comes from?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:23.300)
I have not considered that.
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This is what you do if you want to destroy America. And I agree with Tucker, at the end of the day, it's because the evil forces above this want to destroy the West.
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Sure.
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Here's something you may not have known. Back in 2015, the Congress of the United States repealed something called the Country of Origin Labeling Act.
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Now, why is this relevant to you?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:42.300)
Well, it means, among other things, that when you buy beef at the supermarket that says, made in the USA, it may not actually be.
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In fact, it could be, likely is, from a foreign country.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:53.300)
It means that repackaging foreign meat can be enough to get the made in the USA designation.
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It's a lie. It's an absolute lie. Most people don't even know what's happening.
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So how can you be sure that the meat you're eating is from the United States and has been raised with the highest quality standards and is the tastiest?
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It's truly made here. Well, it's simple. You can go to our friends at Meriwether Farms.
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Meriwether Farms is an American small business. It's based in Riverton, Wyoming. We know the people who run it and they're great people.
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And they have great meat.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:23.300)
That makes me trust them so little.
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They ship the highest quality meat, raised free from growth hormones.
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Makes me think it's not beef.
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Directly to your doorstep. It's delicious. We eat it a lot, including at this table.
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These are Americans. These are American-made products. They are the real deal.
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Again, we eat that meat at this table from Riverton, Wyoming. They're the best.
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MeriwetherFarms.com. Use the discount code TUCKER10 and you get an extra 10% off.
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Again, that's MeriwetherFarms.com. It's worth it.
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Christian civilization. Of course, the first, second World Wars were that. That was it.
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That's not pro-Hitler. I'm anti-Hitler, just for the record. Very anti-Hitler.
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But the effect was to destroy the most beautiful civilization ever created by far in history. All history.
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And this is the final blow. It seems very, very obvious. Very obvious to me.
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And we should be aware of that as we proceed.
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When gold crosses 4,000, I don't understand why that's not front page news.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:26.300)
Because to me, you're better at this than I, but that means that the cumulative effect of everything we're discussing has been to destroy the US dollar.
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It's a little jarring to listen to this show and then talk about how evil wants to destroy Christianity, then cut to a beef commercial,
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and then cut to Tucker mid-sentence talking about how evil won the World War I and II. He doesn't like Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:51.300)
Very anti-Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:52.300)
Yeah, but evil forces wanted to destroy Christian society. It's just bizarre.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:58.300)
What are the stakes?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:00.300)
Do you mean stakes like beef?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:01.300)
I sure do. But also I mean stakes.
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Two bone.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:05.300)
There's multiple. I was using multiple entendres of the meaning of the word.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:11.300)
But that's kind of my question here, right?
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Stakes, stakes?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:15.300)
So evil. It's gonna kill us all, right? But also I should worry about the dollar.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:19.300)
I feel like those two things can't exist simultaneously.
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Yep. Definitely.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:24.300)
Okay, good. Moving on.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:26.300)
Would you like some steak?
Unknown Speaker (00:44:28.300)
Definitely real beef.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:30.300)
There's no way. The number of times you told me it was real, it was from the United States, and that it wasn't made of some sort of fucking horrifying mutation thing,
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makes me convinced that it is one of those three.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:44.300)
Yeah. This would be like someone at a restaurant and someone's like, this is real beef.
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You didn't need to tell me it was real. Why did you tell me it was real?
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And then they watch you the whole time you're eating it.
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I'm very suspicious of you now.
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Now that you've made me feel like you're lying to me.
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Yeah. But I think that there's something to this, like the triviality of this, like, buy my beef.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:05.300)
And then also like, World War I and II were meant to destroy God.
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I also like the idea that the way you're selling it is like, you don't want any of this foreign beef and not like, buddy, you probably shouldn't have meat traveling around the world.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:19.300)
I think that's probably a bad idea.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:21.300)
Even if it's from like your town, but then it travels around the world one time before it gets to you, that's still probably not good.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:28.300)
Meanwhile, these motherfuckers are so mad at farm to table local agriculture sustainability stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:34.300)
Oh, you're going to make some dandelion fluff for me? Bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:38.300)
Climate change is a hoax. I want Chinese beef now.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:41.300)
So it's time to get hardcore.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:44.300)
Yeah. And the explanation for how to get hardcore is interesting.
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And the UN and the globalists say we're bringing back feudalism.
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Neo-feudalistic capitalism is what they call it.
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But really it's just slavery.
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And that's what we're opposing. And that's what the relaunch of the West is about.
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That's what Elon Musk understands.
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That's why this is a do or die existential threat to everybody.
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People should just get on board and get hardcore or be absolute feudal slaves if you're lucky.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:09.300)
How do you get on board?
Unknown Speaker (00:46:11.300)
You understand and you research the great reset and you research Larry Fink, now the head of the World Economic Forum.
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You realize three years ago the UN made the World Economic Forum co-equal to its governing body and its councils.
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And you understand if you actually read their writings, the future isn't human.
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People are bad. Families are bad. We're going to have these AI gods that take over.
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It is just the wildest thing that Lex Luthor in a comic book couldn't come up with.
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This is beyond super villain stuff. This is real super demon stuff.
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And you have to identify the attack you're under and that it's deliberate.
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Then you have to mobilize and get good legislatures and governors and others elected.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:52.300)
So all that stuff Alex is saying isn't true and he hasn't researched any of this shit.
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Most of it is catchphrases he's memorized from memes and ultimately it seems like his definition of getting hardcore is just believe stupid shit and vote for Republicans who are subservient to Trump.
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Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:07.300)
That's hardcore man.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:08.300)
I find it wild to live in this world now where Alex is saying literally, get out and vote!
Unknown Speaker (00:47:17.300)
Yeah, the electoral system is the way to go.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:20.300)
That's fucking crazy.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:22.300)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:23.300)
Great. We're doing great.
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Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:26.300)
I didn't like it whenever people who were reasonable and who might have been telling the truth said shit like that.
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I definitely don't like it when Alex is saying shit like that.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:34.300)
Yeah, but you need to also believe crazy stupid shit along the way, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:47:39.300)
Wow, I mean that would also get you to thinking that just vote is going to do it.
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Yeah.
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And, oh God, so I think that there's something really interesting about Alex's position, even as he's not interesting and he becomes like this sort of organ that has outlived its usefulness.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:57.300)
Yeah, yeah, he's like a kawado.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:58.300)
There's still something very interesting about the fact that he's able to take things that I would in some other circumstances totally agree with and make me like, I don't want your help with this.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:10.300)
Just stop.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:12.300)
So he starts talking about BlackRock.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:14.300)
Great.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:15.300)
Populists are getting elected all over the world. People are really waking up to this.
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And we have now these attorney generals winning court cases in Texas and other places where BlackRock tried to come in and say we're not going to have any investment in your state if you don't get rid of fossil fuels.
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And then Texas sued, Kim Paxson said this is racketeering, this is illegal.
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They won the court cases.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:34.300)
It is.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:35.300)
Because Larry Fink says this is about control.
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We're going to control you.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:38.300)
So Alex's version of the story is entirely made up and it illustrates how little he understands these issues that he's supposed to be championing.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:45.300)
Texas, through Ken Paxson, did sue BlackRock along with State Street and Vanguard over accusations that they engaged in monopolistic practices.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:53.300)
However, Alex is saying that the case involved BlackRock saying that they wouldn't invest in anything in Texas if they didn't get rid of fossil fuels, which is inaccurate.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:02.300)
The claim is that these three investment firms acquired a large amount of shares in nine large coal producing companies with ownership stakes ranging from about 8 percent to 34 percent.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:13.300)
It's alleged that all three of these investment firms have agreed that they're not going to invest in coal companies that have plans to expand production.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:20.300)
So the idea is that these firms have gathered influence in these coal companies and are restricting the production of coal, which is anti-competitive and subject to antitrust laws.
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Recently, BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard asked the court to dismiss the case on the grounds that there isn't a serious accusation being made, essentially arguing that even if everything the case claimed was true, there still isn't any crime or wrongdoing.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:44.300)
That motion to dismiss was denied, so the case can still be heard later on in court.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:50.300)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:51.300)
The court didn't rule on the merits of this case, but Alex is lying and pretending that they did.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:55.300)
He's also lying about what these firms did, claiming that they said that they wouldn't invest in anything in the state if they didn't get rid of fossil fuels.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:02.300)
This is such a great illustration of Alex's worthlessness.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:05.300)
It may very well be the case that these investment firms are engaged in some monopolistic practices that should be stopped, but he can't help but lie about the situation in order to make his job easier and make his argument more exciting.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:18.300)
And that's not an ally you need.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:20.300)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:21.300)
You're actually opposed to the monopolistic practices, the idea of that, that BlackRock could be engaged in this.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:28.300)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:29.300)
Alex is going to ruin your ability to push back against it because he's going to make you look like an idiot.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:35.300)
Yeah, this is one of the things that happens, and it's one of the things that happens every time with unions, especially.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:41.300)
But it goes like this, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:50:43.300)
You and I both know that the system is unjust.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:46.300)
We need to get rid of it.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:47.300)
We need to change the system, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:50:49.300)
So we go after the system.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:50.300)
We get into a conflict with the system, and the system's like, wow, you guys are winning.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:53.300)
And it talks to your buddy, and your buddy is suddenly on the board of BlackRock, and now you've lost.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:58.300)
You don't want your buddy.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:59.300)
Your buddy is the reason that you're going to lose, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:51:02.300)
He says that you're the one, you're going to go fight the system and shit, and then the moment it's time, you're fucked.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:09.300)
Yeah, the person who's not serious is going to end up supporting Trump in his quashing of free speech.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:14.300)
You bet.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:15.300)
So I don't want Alex's help on this.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:18.300)
Nope.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:19.300)
He can't grasp the issues that are at stake and doesn't care.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:23.300)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:24.300)
And putting him on my side just means I'm losing by having him on my side.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:28.300)
He's a vulnerability, not an ally.
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Yep.
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So here's some words out for you about freedom.
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You can't have different systems, radically different systems in a globalized world, can you?
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No, exactly.
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Exactly.
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So there's a fight between, do you want the 1984 civilization or do you want the 1776 civilization?
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1776 isn't going back, it's back to the future.
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What?
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It was the flower of the Renaissance and the greatest expression of hundreds and hundreds of years of the Great Awakening and of the Enlightenment.
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And so it's a continuation of that.
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We have to get back to the future, back to the avant garde, back to what produces the most freedom, the most wealth, classical liberalism of Thomas Jefferson.
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Now, modern liberalism is totalitarian, anti-family, anti-speech, anti-self-defense, anti-private property.
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Modern liberalism is a totalitarian death cult, transhumanist poison to sabotage human civilization.
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It's a depopulation program.
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1776 is the ultimate, most successful push of humans to produce the very best atmosphere of liberty and freedom and competition and empowerment.
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The problem is, in the cycle, as you know, hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times.
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The problem is, is that are we good enough?
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It was Benjamin Franklin right after they finally, you know, years later after the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, you know, finally got the Bill of Rights done.
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And he was walking out and the newspaper reporter said, Mr. Franklin, you know, do we now finally have our nation?
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And he said, yes, you have your republic if you can keep it.
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Alex made up some of the details of that story, but all that meant nothing.
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No?
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This is just word salad that Alex can basically pull out from muscle memory, but he has no connection to what any of this shit means.
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He hates the left, it's so anti-free speech, yet he's quiet on Trump's very clear attack on speech.
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Whenever he said, we're getting rid of your freedom of speech?
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Yeah, we just decided this isn't a bad one.
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Whenever he literally said the words, we're getting rid of your freedom of speech.
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Because the courts won't let me, I'm just going to do it.
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Yep.
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Also, these dudes seem to want a world government, but just one that has a big 1776 sign on it.
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Yeah.
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Like maybe a world government under Trump, Trump empire or something like that.
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Maybe that would work.
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Great.
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Bunch of dicks.
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Well, at least it would be, actually it wouldn't.
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That's the problem.
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That's the fucking problem with a world government under these assholes.
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It wouldn't be easier to travel anywhere.
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It's not easier to travel inside the United States because of these fucking people.
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Yeah, they'd make everything way, way, way worse.
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Right?
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At the very least you'd think if there was one world government, sure, maybe they're oppressive and shit like that,
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but you can get from one place to another because there's nobody in the way.
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Wrong.
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Not these guys.
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Not these guys.
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No.
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There's always somebody in the way.
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That's a different world government that cares about infrastructure spending.
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Oh my God.
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Shit like that.
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What an amazing thought.
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So, there are moments in life where someone sounds really fucking stupid to the point
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where if you're talking to them, you should feel embarrassed that you're not stopping them.
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Yeah.
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And I think that this is one of those moments where Alex starts explaining the Podesta plan
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to Tucker and he has to do the open mouth like, oh my God.
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That's facts.
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Oh my what?
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And the next place I wanted to go was the Podesta plan.
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What is the Podesta plan?
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Well, when I talk about this, I get chills because in August of 2020, Breitbart wrote about it.
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Daily Caller wrote about it, but the New York Times wrote about it first.
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And Podesta does this big Democrat party war game.
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Which Podesta?
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John.
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John Podesta.
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Former White House chief of staff.
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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And then later the climate czar for Biden or giving up the climate money, stealing it.
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He comes out of this huge report.
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They publish the whole thing.
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And I read like this, it was like 70 pages or something.
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And they say, if Trump wins in 2020, this is in August, months before, which they were able to steal it so he didn't.
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He said, we're going to have Western states secede.
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We're going to have blue cities secede.
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But we'll start with the Western states, California, Oregon and Washington, because they're furthest away.
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We'll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and health care at first, which they're now doing.
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I'm getting chills because it's all happening.
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Like, like you go to a play and you're reading, oh, the next act is this and gets chills.
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That's not how you replace her.
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And they say, if he wins, we will say it's illegitimate.
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We will have blue states first secede and that they're going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals.
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Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard and then there'll be a massacre of the migrants.
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And then we will kick off a civil war.
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Then all the blue cities across the country will secede.
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The New York, Massachusetts and others will secede and will form what we call the Western alliance.
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And we will then the U.S. military will be with us as they control the generals, people that think otherwise.
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Because there was Trump's big mistake he found out. Most of them are globalists at the top, not you're enlisted, they're great people.
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What?
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And that they would then form a military alliance if Trump didn't stand down, they would march on D.C.
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And then they made a movie produced two years ago they released last year called Civil War that is the last act of the Podesta plan.
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That's in a two plus year civil war race based.
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At the end they go and the black female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the White House.
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Sure.
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And that's because evil white people are not massacring brown people across the country so the U.S. military reconvenes under a Gavin Newsom's command type.
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And then they come in and then they take over the country and then they reeducate all the evil right wingers and evil white people.
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Sure.
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If you're Tucker and you're on Alex's side you still have to think that he sounds like a complete idiot.
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Yeah.
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That sounds so dumb.
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Yeah.
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None of the stuff that he's saying about the transition integrity project report is accurate and none of the stuff he's saying about the Civil War movie is accurate either.
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Like if you've seen that movie you'd be like nah you're wrong.
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Tucker has met Tony or John Podesta I'm sure.
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Yeah yeah yeah.
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Like he has to be sitting there like what the fuck are you talking about?
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I mean it's amazing.
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Because Alex is trying to be calm and sound like someone you should take seriously he's not employing all of his standard flourishes and theatrics.
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Which makes him just sound like a delusional person who should be talking to a social worker.
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Yeah.
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This is all just half remembered details from news stories he didn't read and a movie he didn't watch.
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To Alex's combined into a race war fantasy.
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He says in that clip that the Podesta report includes states forming a group called the Western Alliance.
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But in the report the group that comes together in one of the scenarios is called Cascadia.
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Alex pretends the name is the Western Alliance and that's used in the report because in the movie they call them the Western Forces.
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And he absolutely knows that Tucker isn't going to push back on this.
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No.
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Another point is that the Civil War movie goes out of its way not to explain why the United States is in a civil war.
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Because it's a story being told through the viewpoint of conflict journalists whose job requires them to maintain a distance from the horrors that they're witnessing.
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Sure.
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The movie is trying to force the viewer to see things through their eyes.
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And if you knew why the war was happening it would be very easy to take a side and that moralizing would take away from the fundamental point Alex Garland was making with the movie.
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Which has to do with PTSD and how hard journalism is.
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Yeah.
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It wouldn't work.
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No.
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It wouldn't make any sense.
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Alex didn't see it so it doesn't really matter.
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Yeah that does help.
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Alex is unable to deal with complicated ideas and art so he just crafts his own fantasy to live in where movies and TV shows are secretly trying to whisper codes to him.
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He's insane and Tucker is just sitting there while he spouts this shit. It's embarrassing.
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There's a reason that it used to be harder to get on TV.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because when there's no standards you just end up with stuff like this and people sound very dumb.
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Yeah.
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I like the idea of seceding.
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Right.
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Because I like the way that these guys think of it.
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They think of it like, we're out friends! Bye!
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And that's like the end of it.
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But if there was even a possibility of California seceding in like a peaceful way it would be Brexit times a thousand.
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Yes.
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There's so many resources. There's so much money. There's so much tied up. There's so many foreign investments in there.
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The idea of trying to just negotiate your way out of it.
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It would make more sense for the United States government to just murder everybody in California and then resettle it than it would to try and negotiate out of it.
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Right.
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You know?
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Just even on like a really, really basic level.
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Yeah.
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The power grids are connected.
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I mean it would be...
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Between California and neighboring states.
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It would be insane.
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Right.
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But maybe a city would just be like, no.
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Yeah, no. And that'd be fun.
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They just hit a button.
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Right.
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And then a dome comes down on them.
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Right.
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And they're like, we're our own thing now.
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It's so much easier to secede in the 1860s because nobody...
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It's like everything was done by paper.
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Sure, it could have been three months before you had to pay that bill because it took that long to get there.
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Now you gotta close it by the end of the day.
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Right. And they didn't have power grids that were connected.
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No! They didn't have power at all!
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Yeah. It's stupid.
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It's very stupid.
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And I think that Tucker...
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I don't know.
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Obviously, I don't think that he wants Alex to look stupid.
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Yeah.
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But by allowing him to talk for long stretches, he just kind of reveals that Alex is an idiot.
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I would be very...
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If I started going about that far off the rails, just being like,
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alright, let me let you in on my Podesta plan.
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I've made up all this stuff and this movie is the last act of it.
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It's telling me secretly that a black woman is gonna kill Trump.
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Right.
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At a certain point, I would hope that the person across would be like,
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no, no, no. You're on. You're on. We're live. We're available.
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Or edit.
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Yeah, exactly. Just cut that out.
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I'm gonna... Hey, sidebar? Cut out all of that.
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This is embarrassing for me to be associated with you.
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Mm-hmm.
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Oh, well.
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So Alex talks a little bit about the shooter in Minnesota.
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Sure.
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Whose name he does not remember, I'm sure.
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And how he was a dirty leftist who worked for Tampon Tim.
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That'll happen.
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You have the Soros NGO funded No Kings events, like they had on the 14th of June,
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when the guy that worked for Tampon Tim went around reportedly killing senators
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and state reps there at the state level.
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He later told the FBI and wrote a letter saying, no, I did this for the Democrats.
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It's a false flag.
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So that Tim Walz could play victim.
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He supposedly had a bunch of accomplices, but they didn't help him.
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They caught his wife and a bunch of people with passports, guns, and money,
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fleeing the area.
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But within two hours of the attack, they had his roommate on TV saying,
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oh, he loved Trump and Alex Jones.
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Isn't that interesting? Just all very scripted.
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But my point is, now you have the No Kings this weekend.
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And we now have Schumer on Monday, went on MSNBC and said,
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we need to have a forceful uprising.
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We need to have a forceful uprising.
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What's the exact quote?
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My producer's over there.
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So this is chilling.
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My producer's over there. He'll tell me what he saw on Twitter.
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So I think in a fair and just world,
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Alex should be sued by Vance Bolter's wife and the roommate,
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just for that last minute.
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He can't say shit like this.
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He can't say that the dude's comments were scripted.
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That implies involvement with the murder of a public official.
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He can't say that his wife was fleeing with guns and a bunch of people
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when it was her kids, and she legally was able to have guns.
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He can't do this shit.
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He's accusing people of being involved in political assassination murders.
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And it just doesn't matter.
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Here's what I'll say about our legal system.
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Let's just add a little amendment at the end.
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And we'll call it the Sonic the Hedgehog law.
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Once you've exhausted all the rings, all bets are off.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We've gone through all these Sonic rings.
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All of these things have bounced out of him, and now we've got zero rings left.
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One more hit and this man's gone.
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So we're there. We've got all the rings out.
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Alex is done.
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The entire country just goes, no! No more!
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All of the rings have blinked out of existence.
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Yeah, it's all gone. You can't collect any more rings.
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You've lost all your rings. The last hit is the one that kills you.
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Boom, you're done.
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Let me propose another Sonic rule.
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Chili dogs.
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Remember when Alex ate all that chili and couldn't remember his kid's teacher's name?
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I do.
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That's cool. Because Sonic likes chili dogs.
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I did not know that.
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It's in the Constitution now.
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I did not know that there was lore regarding chili dogs in Sonic.
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What does he do with the chili dogs?
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He eats them.
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Where did he get chili dogs?
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Well, it's not in the video games, I don't think. It's in the cartoons.
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But it's a part of his lore.
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Chili dogs are important.
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Alright, alright. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't know that there was a cartoon.
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I should have assumed.
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No, no, no. That's on me.
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So, Tucker, Alex has told him all about this scary guy who was working for Tim Walz.
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Sure.
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And all this violence.
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Schumer wants a forceful uprising.
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And so, Tucker has no choice but to say that Trump should probably just have the military do shit for him.
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I don't think that's okay.
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If you really believe that widespread civil unrest preparatory to civil war is coming,
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if Chuck Schumer, you know, one of the senior senators, is calling for it,
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then you really need to make sure the military is under control.
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That it's not politicized. That it's not, you know, that it reports to the president.
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That is politicizing the military. No beard.
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The military is the key, correct?
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Yes. And I love Texas speech. And that's the right direction.
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But we need more of that. And a lot of the generals are rolling their eyes, giggling, putting their heads in their hands.
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And I guarantee you, you just go, okay, who's that guy? Look at his record. He's going to be a commie, a leftist.
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But wouldn't you, I mean, it would be almost an emergency situation.
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You would need to make certain that the general officers in your military were loyal to the Constitution.
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Exactly. And the left, the corporate media act like, if Trump wants prosecutions, he's not supposed to do that.
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No, he's the chief law enforcement officer. We elected him for that. We elected one man in the general election.
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All of us vote, the habitability to vote for only one position. And so it's not Trump's right. It's his duty.
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No, Trump's supposed to appoint an attorney general who's not just doing his bidding.
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They're supposed to be separate.
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That is one of the biggest things, is that we can't let one guy do it thing. That was huge.
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Man, I think if the president can just direct prosecutions, then like, I don't know what Alex could ever be mad about.
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Like a government doing.
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I mean, yeah.
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His standards are so low.
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Hey, listen, once we all have accepted, which I feel like we have, maybe I'm wrong, maybe people have not gotten there yet.
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But we essentially live by decree and whoopsie law.
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What a whoopsie.
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I decree that we do this. Sometimes, whoopsie, we don't do that now. That's it.
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All these people are fired. Oh no, they were the people.
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Whoopsie, you're back.
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We needed you.
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Once we realized that decree and whoopsie can exist simultaneously, we should have been like, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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Get rid of this, Alex.
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This is some goofy shit.
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Yeah, get out of here. Come on, come on, come on.
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So Alex is so scared because of all the Antifa and all this stuff.
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The totally real Antifa.
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That he's not even staying in his house.
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Except he is.
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Right.
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But he lies about it.
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Oh.
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And then Tucker is like, you're not staying in your house?
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And Alex gives up on his lie.
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Oh my God.
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Antifa and these other groups have targeted lists that have come out of whose houses they're going to.
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Governors, talk show hosts, everybody.
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Tucker is on the list.
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I'm on the list.
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We've caught him outside my house, folks.
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OK, I'm just going to leave it at that.
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I haven't stayed at my house in months.
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It's gotten that bad.
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I stay there.
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You haven't stayed at your house?
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I don't stay at my house anymore.
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My my my.
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I say there's no my children.
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No, because I mean, they're there.
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It's targeted.
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As soon as they kick this off.
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There are people that are first on the list that they're planning to come get because I'm not trying to.
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You know, this is your smart when they really launch this.
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And it's not going to be them knocking your door down in D.C.
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It's going to be a group of meth heads rolling up with them all off cocktails.
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And and they've got these undercover videos in Austin and Portland and everywhere.
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Hours of them.
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And it shows inside these warehouses where they give them drugs and money and food and the NGOs.
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And they're just all in there ramped up and ready with guns and weapons.
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Big warehouse.
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As soon as they give them the green light, they are going to just pile in their vans and come to kill.
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Think of Helter Skelter times ten thousand.
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Think of the Manson family times ten thousand.
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They've got Manson family groups in every major city and most small towns, literally, that would make the cast of Chainsaw Massacre look like choir boys ready to go.
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Right. Yeah, of course.
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I mean, these these are the shock troops of whatever the the nihilists, the atheists, of course.
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Sure. And that's always the way it works.
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Yeah, of course. Of course.
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There are so many fucking armies just hidden in the streets.
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I mean, there's gangs and Antifa and Trende Aragua and Iranian sleeper cells.
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Don't forget MS-13 is always around the corner.
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They got replaced by Trende Aragua.
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Oh, shit. Damn it.
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Yeah. Trump got it was more exciting to talk about them than it was to talk about MS-13.
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So I think one of our one of my big problems with Antifa, as laid out by Alex, poor operational organization.
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Sure. You shouldn't be keeping all of these things in the same way.
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And it's so fun. Speaking of operations, just real quick. I agree with you.
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You should have different locations.
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I mean, at the very least, you have your junkies and your guns in a different place.
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Yeah. And they have contracts where, like, people sign them.
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Yeah. That seems unnecessary.
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I mean, you've... That's bad operational security.
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At what point when you sign a contract and at the end, at the other side of that contract,
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is somebody giving you a lot of drugs and then convincing you to start a war or something?
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Sign here.
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At what point is it more incriminating for the person who made the contract than for your signature?
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Right. Right. No, but why... That's what I'm saying. Why are they signing?
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Right. Exactly. What are we doing here?
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This is dumb.
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You don't need my signature. You're drugging me.
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And I don't need yours.
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I don't need yours. I love drugs.
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So, yeah, I think this is stupid.
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Manson Family times 10,000. Oh, no. Trump better be able to use the military however he wants.
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Yeah.
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Great. Back to Alex. You know, he's saying that he doesn't stay in his own house.
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I think that it's really funny that almost no pushback made him give up on that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Because it wasn't even pushback. Tucker was trying to be like, oh, my God.
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Tell me more. Give me...
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You don't stay in your house?
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Escalate. Tell me why.
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Yeah. One of my windows got broken into. Exactly.
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And Alex immediately was like, I can't sell this.
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Well, because he shoots video of himself cutting like a Hitler mustache, you know, like shaving his face into his house.
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With his fucking personal trainer.
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Yeah. So like...
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Your personal trainer is staying in your house. He can't be that scared.
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Yeah. He clearly is just like, oh, fuck. I can't pull this lie off.
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Yeah. That one's kind of silly anyways.
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That's like Tucker doing a fucking behind the back no look pass and Alex catching the ball and throwing it out of bounds.
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Can't do it. Don't like it. This ball sucks. Give me a new ball.
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Yeah. So there's an attorney general race in Virginia.
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And Alex thinks this guy is just like all about killing all the white people.
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Sure.
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And then, you know, take this attorney general candidate that's been in the lead, Jones in Virginia.
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He said the same thing they keep saying, the same thing people said about Charlie Kirk's wife, kill her and her kids and her parents because they're all racist.
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Because they...
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So he's in the kill the whites, as he said.
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Well, he said, he said, kill these legislators. And he said by their names and kill their kids.
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All white legislators.
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All white. He said, yeah, kill these white people and kill their kids.
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Sure.
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And then to teach their wife a lesson.
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That'll teach them.
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So he says, we're literally going to leave your white women.
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This guy's running for attorney general.
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Right.
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And I think he's still getting, you know, 45 percent of Democrats supporting him.
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And they won't decry him.
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And the reason I go back to that, folks, is we've been so taught it's totally a lie that only whites can be tribal.
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All humans are tribal.
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I'm sorry?
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Because whites don't seem tribal at all.
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I'm sorry?
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I'm sorry?
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I'm sorry?
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That's a...
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What? What?
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You know, they pull up at Galapagos Island.
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There's this giant bird twice the size of a turkey.
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Oh, my God.
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Never had a natural predator.
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Fucking Christ.
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And within a few years, there were no more dodo birds.
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Anybody's ever been around a sanctuary that has big fences around deer that have ever been hunted.
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They just walk right up to you.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's the same thing.
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So that's how white Westerners are, is literally like deer being dumped out in northern Canada with wolf packs.
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Yeah.
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I'm not...
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Wild.
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I don't feel tribal really at all.
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I never have thought that way.
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I mean, in fact, I've sort of tried not to think that way because I think it's, I don't know, bad.
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It leads to...
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I will tear your eyes out.
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...in war.
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But yeah, no, they're the only ones who are that way.
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Everyone else is totally tribal, openly tribal.
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They're encouraged to be tribal.
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So this is cute.
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Wow.
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But this is going to have the desired effect that Tucker wants.
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The racists in his audience will laugh about how over the top his incredulous tone is.
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Yeah.
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But I can't imagine any white people being tribal.
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Tribal?
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White people?
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Yeah.
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There's a wink that the racists will see.
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And then the older people who don't want to accept that they're watching Nazi propaganda
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will be reassured by the very sincere way Tucker's voice sounds when he gets so quiet
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and serious talking about white people not being tribal.
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The story Alex is talking about here involves Virginia Attorney General candidate Jay Jones
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who texted someone three years ago that if he had a choice between shooting Hitler, Paul
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Pott and former House Speaker Todd Gilbert, quote, Gilbert gets two bullets.
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Boom.
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Bits.
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He also said that it would take Gilbert's wife holding their children after being shot
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to get him to act on gun legislation.
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There.
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That kind of sucks, but Alex and Tucker are definitely lying about this in order to turn
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it into a racial thing.
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Yeah.
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Oh, the whites.
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He wants to kill all the whites.
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Get over yourself.
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And it's probably because they're deeply tribal about their whiteness.
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Seems like it.
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And by that I mean they're fucking racists.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oof.
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Man.
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In Deadpool, right?
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You remember in Deadpool?
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I've not seen the play.
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You've not seen the play?
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Okay.
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In the first Deadpool, this is before it becomes Deadpool.
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He's got cancer and they're like, we're going to find out how your mutation works by putting
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you under extreme duress and then your mutation will kind of come out.
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Right.
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And then it turns out that he can heal himself indefinitely.
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Sure.
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After torture, after just the worst thing that's ever happened.
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And I've realized through this show that I am not a mutant at all.
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Yeah.
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Because if I were, it would have come out through that man saying, whites aren't tribal
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at all.
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I tried to do it to see if it's bad.
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I tried to grow Wolverine claws out of my, I was like, no!
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And they wouldn't come.
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You did stand up.
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I was so mad.
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I was so mad.
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I tried to use powers.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's going to get worse.
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I'm not an X man.
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Cause, well, we'll see if this one gets you to turn blue or stop time.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Let's see if I can become an X man.
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Yeah.
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So what do you think about meritocracies?
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Oh, fuck me.
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You fucking...
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I mean, the Renaissance was about Christianity and technical skills and what you brought
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to the table and a meritocracy.
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And so we were, and so Christians are like, Hey, we can bring in other groups if it's
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a meritocracy, which you can do.
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Charlie Kirk, the fake quotes are black women can't fly planes.
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They're dumb.
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Said nothing even close to that.
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No, he said, we don't have a big enough pool of black women trying to be pilots.
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We had a big enough pool and enough training.
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They're great, but you can't lower standards.
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It's not black women are dumb and can't fly planes.
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So Alex is mixing up the racist things that Charlie Kirk has said over his career.
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The black women thing was about them not having the brain power to do jobs in government meant
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for white guys.
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The stuff about pilots was about black people in general, not just women.
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Right, right, right, right.
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He said, quote, if I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified.
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If Charlie sees a white pilot, he doesn't have that same thought because to him, a white
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pilot is qualified by default.
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If you're white, you deserve to be in whatever position you're in.
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If you're not, then you need to prove that you deserve to be there.
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Feels very tribal.
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Even if your education, training, work experience, et cetera, has already proved that.
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You not being white makes Charlie nervous and it's your job in a meritocracy to pacify
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his nervousness.
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See, it's not racist at all.
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It makes total sense.
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Also what Alex is saying about there needing to be larger pools of applicants for jobs,
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he's saying that, but he's totally full of shit.
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He and Tucker are huge enemies of DEI, which is a term that means diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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Hysteria around DEI was a big part of their sales pitch for Trump in 2024, and they promised
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that if he got in, he'd undo all that stuff.
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The thing is, a lot of DEI requirements are just about widening the recruitment pool for
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various jobs.
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It's not about setting hiring quotas.
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It's mostly about making sure that a wide variety of candidates are aware of job openings
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and have the opportunity to apply.
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If Alex were interested in any kind of merit-based system, as opposed to one based on conspiratorial
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racism, he would have a much more nuanced position on DEI.
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I mean, just the very simple idea of, hey, if we only let people in a certain class,
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in a certain area who have access to certain things know about this job, we're only going
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to get people from a certain area, from a certain class who have awareness of this stuff.
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Yep.
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It's very simple.
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It's not complicated.
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And Alex's policy preferences belie this open-minded interpretation of Charlie Kirk's beliefs.
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Fuck that shit.
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No, everything makes sense as long as everybody's white.
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But once I realize that non-white people are also people because there's no such thing
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as white or non-white, then everything I believe goes to shit.
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Yep.
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And see, the globalists, what they want to do, primarily.
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Biggest thing they want to do.
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What do they want to do?
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Kill white farmers.
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Obviously.
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In 1917, British intelligence working with a lot of Russian emigres to New York, put
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a hundred thousand men into Russia and sent Stalin's train of gold in.
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And they took them years to control the whole country, but they got control of the capital
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city.
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And then they just sent out the commissars to the peasants, thought they were being liberated
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from the czars and feudalism.
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And they said it was 20 times worse.
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And they just raped and killed and murdered tens of millions of them.
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And so at the end of the day, whatever the deal is with the left, they want to kill Christian
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farmers and they want to kill Christian white farmers.
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But you saw the UN and that is true.
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It's facts.
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I spent a long time not wanting to admit to myself that that's true.
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But then you just look globally.
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What is this?
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Like what connects everything?
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It's a hostility to that group.
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I don't know where that hostility comes from.
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It's a flawed group.
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All people are flawed.
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Every group is flawed.
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But that's, you know, on par, pretty peaceable group, actually kind of nice people.
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Like why the hatred?
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And I think it's Christianity.
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I really believe that.
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Yeah, I really believe that.
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This guy's a fucking prick.
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No psychic powers, no ability to transform anything.
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Just nothing.
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I heard that man say those things and I didn't apparate into a new country.
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Nope.
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Nothing.
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We're sitting here, those words happen and then we move on.
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Wild.
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Well, May... is yelling your power?
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No, because I didn't hit the wall or anything.
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It is not my power.
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You're not Banshee.
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It is done zero for me in any way.
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See on the left, they just want to kill white Christian farmers, man.
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To what end?
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They hate food.
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So imagine, okay, you know what?
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Fuck it.
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Let's do it.
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The left wants to kill all white farmers.
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Now imagine I'm on the left and imagine I did it.
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I got all of those fuckers out of here.
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Now what?
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I guess that now you can control the food supply easier or something and make people
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dependent.
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So then they have to be communist and then God is dead.
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Makes sense to me.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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These people are just, they're just racist.
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What a wild thing to just throw out.
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There's not even that many farmers, even if there are tons of farmers.
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All their seed, it's not like they're getting their own seed.
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Monsanto is our farmer if you want.
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Sure.
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I think that corporations and big business have done much more damage to farmers and
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globalists.
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Yeah.
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No leftist has ever been like, hey man, we're going to sell you seed that dies next year.
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Not once.
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Nope.
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So it's not just white farmers though.
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They also just, they kind of hate maybe black farmers too or something.
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Why not?
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The farm, the earth.
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It's not just kill white Christians.
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That's the main target.
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Look at the Rwandan massacre, which the UN actually ran if you study it and the Clintons
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who were there.
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And it was a tiny, it was a minority of blacks that were Christian because they were Christian.
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They had all the prosperity and were successful.
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They all got exterminated and wiped out, a couple million of them.
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And now all over the world they're pressuring you.
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Is that true?
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I didn't know that.
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Was it a religious component to the...
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Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah, the Christians got killed.
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I didn't know that.
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And the animist did it.
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Yeah.
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And the UN oversaw it.
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They put them in the refugee centers.
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What?
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Oh yeah.
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The UN helped murder them all.
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So the Tutsis were disproportionately Christian?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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The minority group that was killed was disproportionately Christian.
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Yeah, by the Hutus.
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Yeah.
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And the Hutus were animist.
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Why have I never heard that before?
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That was what I had guessed on at the time it was going down and covered it.
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That was 31 years ago.
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I didn't know that.
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Oh my God.
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Alex, you're enlightening me.
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So this is bullshit.
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It wasn't a religious thing that separated the Hutu and Tutsi and Rhonda.
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Obviously, the story is far more complicated than being able to distill things down into
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one quick answer, but a large part of the conflict traced back to Belgian colonial times,
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where the Belgians viewed the lighter skinned Tutsi as closer to white and thus gave them
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an elevated position in the colonial state.
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The Belgian colonists state codified their identities as either Hutu or Tutsi and over
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time the majority Hutu were ruled by a mostly Tutsi elite.
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This was one of the primary drivers of the genocide.
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But oh my God, Alex, you're blowing my mind.
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How could I have never heard this?
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You know, Dan, sometimes when you look back at the history of colonialism and you see
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these non-tribal white people who are very peaceful and uninterested in taking resources
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from other people and whenever they just decide who's in government, they do a great
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job.
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Didn't you ever notice that?
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Like if we didn't have the Brits, where would India and Pakistan be?
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They'd just be what?
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A group of people not trying to kill each other all the time?
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Stupid.
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It's just a shame that they don't teach history.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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Because Tucker doesn't even know about all these things.
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He doesn't know about all this stuff that Alex just talks shit about.
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Oh my God, I hate this life.
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So enlightening.
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Just picture Tucker's dumb fucking face while Alex tells him this stuff and he has to fucking
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pretend to be like, oh my God, you've blown my mind.
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When I was a kid, when I was real young, I used to read the Dragonlance novels and I'm
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sure that there will be, right now, as those words were spoken, there are people listening
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to this who are shitting in their cars, just going like, ah, I did that too.
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So there was this character named Raceland Magier and his curse was that he had hourglass
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pupils because all he could see was what would happen, the decay of the end of the world.
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That's what I see whenever I look at Tucker Carlson.
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I see his face melting away and becoming a corpse, like in Indiana Jones and the fucking
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Last Crusade.
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That's what I see because that is disgusting.
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I see him a little bit after the show is done taping and he's talking with a friend
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while drinking a highball and they're laughing about how stupid Alex is.
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I don't know.
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It seems too stressful for me to even, like I would need to like wind down.
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I would need to have that highball and a friend would need to have like his hand on my shoulder
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and just going like, it's going to be okay, buddy.
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You're going to do it tomorrow.
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Do you, have you seen these clips of Trump talking about how he's not going to make it
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to heaven?
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What?
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Now what's happening?
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He's a couple of times talked about how like he's probably going to hell.
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I'm a pedophile.
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I'm an evil monster.
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What are you going to do?
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I think that freedom is what Tucker actually feels and that's why he doesn't really give
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a shit.
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And whatever you're talking about, like the anxiety and the stress is all gone because
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he's fucking stupid rich and knows that he's insulated from the problems that he's exacerbating
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that other people have to deal with.
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Yeah.
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I don't think it's possible to make a human free of all consequences also be a good guy.
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It's tough.
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It is very tough.
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So I for one, it calls people racists, right?
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And Tucker, he always used to be confused by that.
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He was so confused.
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Yeah, but then he realized, oh my God, it's to make me not be racist.
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That makes sense.
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And the funny thing is, you know, they've been preemptively preparing us for this by
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doing this whole white, you're a white supremacist and you know, you're a racist.
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And when I first heard that I was, I never met a white supremacist in my life.
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I still don't know any actually.
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And I don't...
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Mirror.
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There are so few racists in this country, at least in my time.
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What it is is they're labeling you.
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What they're doing is they're taking your defenses down.
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Exactly.
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So you can't fight back.
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And I didn't get that.
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My first thought was, why do you see everything in racial terms?
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I didn't grow up thinking of things in racial terms at all, like at all.
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And they do.
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And they do because they're targeting a group.
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I mean, of course.
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And even now.
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And when you're targeting a group, the first thing you do is teach the group they can't
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defend themselves.
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I mean, it's so...
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I mean, look at Europe.
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Or here.
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Defending yourself if you're white.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, I know.
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I wonder what that is.
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Nick Sordar gets beat up by Antifa, and then he gets arrested in Portland.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What?
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Was Nick Sordar beat up because he's white?
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What the fuck are we talking about?
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I have no idea.
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So I feel like these guys are just bending themselves into knots trying to explain why
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it's good to be racist.
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Apparently it's a defense strategy that is useful.
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Try anything you like.
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I can't believe these guys won't just come out and say what they mean already.
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I get that they're old and they've lived with the need for PC code their whole lives, but
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they can just be racist now.
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The more they try to couch their shit in other defensible terms and ideas, the more they
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just look like cowards.
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This doesn't make sense.
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You believe a certain thing and you're trying to wear a hat.
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Well, the reason is because they're hedging their bets.
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They've lived long enough to think, well, the pendulum is going to swing back.
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I don't want to have a...
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Now that we're in the future, let's look back and see all the people who fucking really
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went for it and go after them.
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But that now is just being a coward.
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Because the future's not going to be, we're going to hold you accountable for this shit.
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I don't know if it is, but the way that everything has broken.
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Particularly over the last number of years, but especially, it's accelerated.
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I don't feel like you should have any expectation that there is a normal that ever will exist
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again.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like 2028 is presumably another election.
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Presumably.
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I can't see why.
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I can't see why there would be one.
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Right.
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What kind of rallies are going to be allowed that aren't going to be considered riots on
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Trump's part?
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Well, I mean, yeah.
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The pendulum that you're talking about, it's all or nothing now.
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To pretend that it's not is silly.
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It is.
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That's the pretend that the hedging that you're talking about is them living in a reality
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that no longer exists.
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To me, it comes off like, I'm not that confident in my beef sponsor.
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I think if I'm racist fully, then my beef sponsor might go away.
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It's the biz.
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Tucker expresses something that I was pretty surprised by, which is a mentality that should
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have stayed out of World War Two.
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Sure.
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Great.
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I feel like we really missed our chance to exercise genuine American exceptionalism.
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You can say, you know, in 1941 and say, we're just not for totalitarian systems.
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We're not going to support what would have been in 1939.
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We're not going to do Lend-Lease.
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We're not going to support your totalitarian system.
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Joseph Stalin's sorry.
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We're not for Hitler.
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We're not for Stalin.
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We're America.
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That didn't seem to occur to anybody other than Charles Lindbergh and the majority of
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the American population that supported that plan.
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And they've been slandered.
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What else occurred to Charles Lindbergh?
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You know, ever since.
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And they kidnapped Lindbergh's baby and all of it to teach him.
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And so imagine the Russians and the Germans would have just spit each other out.
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They would have exhausted each other.
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The Soviet Union probably would have fallen.
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The Nazis would have fallen.
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I would imagine that we could imagine there was just an expeditionary force at the end
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of it, cleaned it all up as liberators.
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But instead we got right in the middle of it.
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Yeah.
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Or how about you tell like the family, you know, the moms in this town with their son,
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their son died fighting alongside Stalin's forces.
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I mean, really so hateful.
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What happened to Kanye?
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Do you still talk to him?
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No.
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He uh.
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I don't think he's a bad person.
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I think he's disturbed.
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Yeah.
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And I think he got screwed over in business.
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I think a lot of what he said was true.
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See this is fun because Tucker also interviewed Ye when he was having his anti-Semitic meltdown
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and he edited tons of stuff out of the interview in order to present Ye as not hating Jewish
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people.
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He just had interesting ideas.
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See Tucker bringing up Ye is funny because he was part of trying to facilitate Ye's whole
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Nazi thing by editing out egregious parts of their interview so he looked more palatable
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to naive viewers.
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And it's great that we finally get to this part where Tucker is just saying we should
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have stayed out of World War II.
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Great.
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Cool man.
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Also, the Lindbergh baby kidnapping happened in 1932 so that seems unrelated to his anti-interventionist
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position in World War II.
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Very unrelated.
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But whatever.
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Go off Alex.
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Very unrelated.
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Historical expert.
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Fucking bunch of dumb dicks.
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They're talking about how we should have just stayed out of World War II and Lindbergh has
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been wrongly smeared as a supporter of Nazis and what have you.
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And then without missing a beat he's just like, hey how's Ye doing?
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You still talk to that Nazi?
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It is immensely frustrating to actually give a shit in the presence of these people.
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Just that concept of giving it because they are play acting giving a shit as a fucking
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goddamn condom.
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This is bullshit.
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They give a shit about something that is very abhorrent.
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And because they don't want to be seen as giving a shit about that thing because it's
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for their entire lives has been pretty socially repugnant.
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They have to pretend to give a shit about something else that is socially acceptable.
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Unfortunately their behaviors have illustrated that they are fine with not going like they
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don't give a shit about those things.
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I mean the very concept of what he just said to him doesn't deserve a second thought.
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But the idea of, well we should have just gone after the big fight is over and mopped
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up and been the heroes.
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That is so absurd.
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So insane and selfish and fucking just absolutely psychopathic.
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You know?
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Right.
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And that relitigating history like that is always so fraught.
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Because we know a lot now that we didn't then.
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We know a lot about the scale of genocide that was going on.
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If we hadn't entered the war when we did and things gone the way that they did, there would
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have been so much more extermination of various peoples.
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Almost certainly.
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And for Tucker to have the awareness of hindsight and still be like we should have stayed out
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of it means that he would have been fine with any level of industrial genocide that was
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being carried out then.
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I mean just the idea of like, hey how about instead we should have started a war when
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they built an oven.
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So anyway yay.
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Alex says some stuff about this that like very unacceptable.
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He just goes on and says he loves Hitler over and over again.
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Which I guess like presses on the nerve of edge lording.
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Yeah no.
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So it's like I'm being bad.
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I'm being bad.
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That only goes so far.
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And then I think I understood why he was wearing the mask.
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Why?
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Well after the show he goes back there and pulls the mask off to eat salad.
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And the pupils were just pure black.
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What's that from?
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Just being high.
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Just being high.
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I don't know.
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I didn't have any.
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I was like he was I mean I've never seen anybody with pure black pupils.
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Really?
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He was yeah he pulled it off.
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It was like glowing.
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It was just and I was like they sit there eating a salad.
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And I went oh now I now understand what's going on.
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I mean I don't know maybe a bunch of methamphetamine mixed with acid they say could do it.
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I don't know.
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I looked it up.
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It's hardcore drugs can do that.
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Wow.
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I'm trying to be mean to him.
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I felt like I was actually.
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Oh no you're not being mean to him.
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I felt like I was being abusive even letting him on air.
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You know because he was obviously out of his mind.
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And that was kind of the last that was the last anyone really really heard from him.
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That was it kind of.
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That was the end of Kanye I think.
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He's like I'm going to take the mask off now.
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He just pulls it off and I was just like.
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Put an album out after that.
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Boardroom thing table.
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Song called Hail Hitler.
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And I'm watching him just like.
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And I was like wow.
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So there was no one around him who cared enough to keep him off the air in that state it sounds
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like.
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Definitely not you.
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Yeah.
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The guy who's going around to all the media hits and yelling about Jews and talking about
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how he loves Hitler and how we're not going to be mean to Nazis anymore.
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How could you ever possibly think that he would be unfit to be on air.
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Shows up in a ski mask and wants to look Alex.
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I get it.
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Sure.
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It's embarrassing.
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Sure.
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That interview is embarrassing.
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It is.
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Shouldn't have done it.
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Absolutely.
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Looks real bad.
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You can't save it with this now being like oh my God I didn't know he was on drugs.
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You had pretty good reason to assume that he is unwell.
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His behavior was entirely unwell.
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But there's a lot of ratings you can get out of having him on the show.
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It's going to drive clicks.
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It's a good spectacle.
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Of course you're going to do it.
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Even if now you have to pretend like oh my God I was being so mean to him having him
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on.
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Yes you were.
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And you should have known then.
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And guess what.
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He was on with Nick Fuentes who you still have on regularly.
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He didn't seem to have Kanye's best interests in mind in the way that Tucker kind of put
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it.
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Tucker you interviewed him too dipshit.
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Well.
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Yeah he did.
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No.
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Hahahaha.
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Hahahaha.
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Alex 1000% would still have Ye on anytime if he would show up.
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Of course.
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He's having Nick Fuentes on all the time.
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He doesn't give a shit about any of this.
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Whatever would get attention would be fine.
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And then if he has to perform some kind of idea of penance or regret later he'll do that.
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Yeah of course.
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Fucking garbage.
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That's way easier.
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If you're doing things like this then not do it and lose money.
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So we have one last clip.
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But this may not be the end.
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But something happened in this clip.
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And then I kind of got distracted.
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I know you hate talking about this but I want you to explain what's happening with what
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I think is.
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Let me do this first because I got the great Tucker Carlson here.
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I'm always a little starstruck because I love you so much.
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How much time do we got because I want to hit the real building 7.
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I also want to hit some transhumanism AI stuff.
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How much time do we got?
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I know you're busy.
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I'm not that busy.
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You got super huge important meetings tonight.
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Well we got like an hour.
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Okay good.
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Can I take a five minute break?
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Gots to.
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And then I'm going to answer every question you got.
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I want to answer them all.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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Yay.
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So Alex needed to go to the bathroom and then I realized I got to go to the bathroom too.
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And so I went to the bathroom and then I forgot to get back to the episode.
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And I was really busy this week.
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So I did.
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So there's more of this interview.
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Is there?
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Does it matter?
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When I realized that there was more to the interview.
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I did ask myself that question.
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Is there more?
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Is there?
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Is there?
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We're relitigating World War II and talking about how Yay was whacked out of his brain
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on seven hits of acid when Alex did his dumb shit interview.
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Justifying racism.
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Is there more?
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Is there?
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Was there anything to the interview?
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I think Alex wanted to.
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In that clip Tucker is trying to pivot over to the bankruptcy.
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That's clearly what he's the road that he's starting down.
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Because the primary goal of this is to get people to Alex's new website.
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It's to get rid of the Info Wars brand and get people to Alex Jones store.
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And so that's the direction that Tucker is trying to take this in.
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And Alex is like, oh man I want to talk more about building seven.
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We gotta talk about.
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I think he's getting a little excited.
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He wants to be the conspiracy theorist guy.
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He doesn't want to be the guy who's got a business that's falling apart because the
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government and stuff and he's gotta yell about shit and he's gotta do this whole thing and
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Owen doesn't love him anymore.
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But here it's you and me Tucker.
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We're talking about building seven buddy.
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Just my best friend in the world.
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You've got whiskey.
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Give me some.
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Or something.
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So we may cover the rest of this on the next episode.
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Possible.
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We might not.
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Probably not.
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We're probably gonna do it.
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Oh something will come up.
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So anyway fuck these dudes.
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Just the worst.
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I can't even.
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They didn't even get into demons.
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I don't.
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I don't.
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God I hate it that they get to talk about shit that's real but they do it in the exact
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same way that they talk about demons but then they don't talk about demons which would be
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fun.
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And I'd like them to talk about demons in the way that you or I might talk about a bill
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that's being introduced into Congress or something.
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Talk about demons names.
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Absolutely.
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So we'll check back in and see if they get down to that eventually but until then we
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have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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I'm really rooting for you to have superpowers.
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I don't.
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I don't.
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I've gotta let it go.
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We haven't finished the interview yet.
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Maybe it'll happen.
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That's a good point.
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That's a good point.
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We gotta finish this interview.
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Yeah.
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Maybe the slow boil of mutant powers.
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What it is is that the real torture is that I have suddenly been let go of the pain for
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only just long enough to forget how truly bad the pain was.
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And that moment of realization will kick start the mutation and I will become I guess a cloud.
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Yeah.
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I am Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm Dizzy X Clark.
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I am running Weapon X?
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What?
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Woo yeah woo yeah woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
